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Autistic screeching edition

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Not tier 1: >>174461269
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>opponent gets off TWO shadow reapers on a board full of skellies
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That's it, that's the last fucking drop, I'm out of here for good. This worthless shit dank hole that is /svg/ isn't worth my fucking time anyway. I did not come here with the intention to shitpost or complain about the meta or whatsoever, but it seems people can't fucking deal with an opinion. But who the fuck am I kidding I have not ever seen someone on here who doesn't go full retard or spend all their time shitposting. Every fucking day in the half year that I have been here have has every fucking day been repost day, with the occasional memes and trends that effortlessly overthrow the god damn faggotry that has infested that cursed fucking place. You are no better than /dng/, you are no better than /hsg/ and I bet even /gwt/ laughs at you pieces of shit. Everyone is fucking denying that they're a bunch of circlejerkers, but I am seeing the same fucking pattern, uninterrupted, seamlessly every fucking week without the slightest bit of change. And if there is a god damned baitpost, how about you don't fucking feed the god damn troll, don't play their stupid fucking games. Holy fuck, I am so fucking sick of this fucking thread, all of you, kill your fucking selves. You are intellectually, emotionally and socially incapable to argue over anything, you are a fucking waste of time and space and if I could I would gas you all fucking Hitler style. FUCK YOU AND THIS RETARDED ABYSMAL HELLHOLE.
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>>174494871
>Gawain ramped castle otomemers resolve was the last chance to save her
>Shadow is faster than them and dragon deletes them
Poetry

>>174494201
You only need an hour for dailies and everything past that is arena gravy.
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I'm literally beginner 3 and I give people advice all the time.
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Post elf
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>>174495007
and the new copypasta enters the world, like a young bird soaring from a nest.

Godspeed.
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>tfw you out-ramp froggo and he's gotta gobble that knob
Is there a better feeling than shrugging off a cyclone blade?
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>174495007
You want this?
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>>174495174
>rogue's creed
what fucking rank are you
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>>174495097
ok
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>>174495064
I'm B1 and I fling my opinions around all of the time and pretend I'm high masters so my opinion holds weight.
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>>174495235
AA2. It's not my fault he's a madman
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>>174495064
You're like that fag Vampy., despite the fact he doesn't give his own advice at all.
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Reminder to kill all elven scums
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Any tips for this tempo forest deck?
I'm new and low on vials so any good bronzes or silvers?
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Daily reminder that whoever complain about the meta are shitters whose netdecks from previous meta no longer work and usually don't have 3 Cerberus before ToG.
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>>174495379
The meta complains itself.
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>>174495379
A lot of my amulet decks were destroyed by TotG. Suck a dick.
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>>174495329
>that many one-offs
holy shit have some consistency
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>>174495379
You didn't post this yesterday
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>>174495379
I'm complaining about the meta because its boring rather than being of balance or power issues, those are the least of my concern.s
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>soul convention into soul convention
WHEN WILL IT STOP
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>>174492342
Sorry for the late response.
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Help me complete my deck /svg/!
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26321
I'm in need of a concede for daily.
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>>174495379
Kys pedotumor
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>>174495659
Thanks bud.
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>>174495654
Judge
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>>174495775
Kys facebooktumor
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>>174495860
But pedotumor is social media facecock
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>>174495654
Add candelabra's the cheap cd amulets, prism princess, and the medium reducers with a decent body.
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>>174495917
Kys ESL
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>>174495775
Kys ghost from the past meta
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>>174495654
Don't forget your Grimnirs and Eidolons
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What does it say about me if I want to see Vania helping Luna explore her sexuality?
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>>174495612
do souls cosplay at these conventions
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>>174495612
Remove Phantom Howl from the game.
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Post lewd
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>Absolute perfect counter to eachtar
Why isn't matriarch being used?
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>>174496208
I would like to see Vania sissify Veight, and present "her" to Beast Femdom.
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>>174496314
perfect counter my asshole
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>>174496314
>matriarch isn't being used
but how do you know that?
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>>174496208
Luna is only into necrophilia.
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>>174496314
Because Dark Jeanne is better XD. The face craft doesn't even use their Jeanne let alone Haven.
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>>174496314
She prefers to fuck otomeme
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>>174495612
>tfw not enough ghost generators to use the sacrifice mechanics in a ghost gimmick deck
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>>174495007
and so it begins
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>>174496314
Because she's not featured in any of the netdecks. Not in netdeck = useless pile of shit.
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>>174496314
Because you can't play cards after you lose.
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>>174496527
No, newcuck. Matriarch got memed here many times. It's shit, people ended up replacing it with something else.
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Cycuck....
At this point Forbidden Memories is much more fun than you card game.
Fuck
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>those annoying dshift faggots can't stop playing their deck even tho it's complete garbage
thanks for the free wins
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Anyone try running Vlad against the skellies?
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>>174496662
Then you wait until some tourney list won with her in the decklist, and then there would be bunch of autists trying to convince you that she's good. It's fucking clockwork.
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>Eactar is a bahamut by itself
How Cygames was able fuck up this much?
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>>174496827
>ability locked behind evolve
literallyshit
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>>174495007
i like how ambiguous this is so i can use it in other genres
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>>174496831
Tourney are always meme tier full of netdeck players.
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>verse shadow player
>I have 2/2 on the board
>he has two 1/2
>he has no pp left to spend
>attacks face once and then spends a minute thinking what to attack with the other one, every fucking turn
>its a jap
Why did he mean by this
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>>174497067
>anon wanted to tell this story so much he posted it twice
what did he mean by this
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I wonder if they manipulate dailies to make less played classes appear more often. This is my fourth fucking day of only getting Forest and Haven missions.
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>>174497067
he meant that he had to get off the subway car and take his eyes off the screen for a second while navigating through the station
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>>174497212
anon only wants your love and attention
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>>174497320
I get dragon/sword all the time. It's just your head trying to rationalize a pattern so it stops freaking out.
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>>174497449
>>174497320
I always get forest and rune, I think anon is onto something
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>>174497449
Wow what a aborigine thing to say, goy.
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>haven't played against shadow in over 10 matches
did something happen?
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>5 gorrilion removals in deck
>literally none in hand to deal with an anomaly
I got memed on
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>>174497372
>YY
I don't doubt you.
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Playing Aggro in Shadowverse is one of the most satisfying experiences you can ever feel. It's like throwing the first punch in a fight. That good, first punch sets how the rest of the fight will go. Your opponent is still recovering from that initial hit and you immediately follow it up with a 1-2 combination *Pow* *Bam*. Your opponent tries to block your punches, but for every punch he blocks, more punches come in and hit him all over. He tries to steady himself enough, hoping to turn the fight around.
Evolving one of his followers, he attempts to be the one leading now and making you react to him. He's sorely mistaken though, as you've gained too much momentum to be stopped. You eliminate his follower and evolve one of yours and hit him again in the face. You exchange several blows, with your opponent unable to truly stop your onslaught as one or two extras are still able to power through. Smelling blood in the water, you see your opponent try desperately to keep standing.
He gives up on exchanging and goes full defensive, thinking that if he can stop you from punching him completely perhaps he has a chance of knocking you out with one well-placed punch. You, however, know this point by heart. You're intimately familiar with it. You ready your secret move. That one punch that hits at an angle your opponent cannot expect or cannot hope to protect himself from. Feigning difficulty at being unable to hit him with your normal arsenal, you unleash it. As expected, it catches him off-guard. His defense is blown wide open. He can't stop your punches anymore. He feels it, but his mind is too slow to realize that he has already lost until you land that final blow that makes him eat dirt. There just was nothing he could do.
You want to shake hands him, thank him for a good fight. But inside, you know you were just too fast, too strong, and too intelligent for him to ever defeat. You pity him because, you know damn well he'll never be the same again.
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>>174497627
What in the seven fucks are you trying to accomplish with that deck
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>>174497587
cygames rigging matchups to inflate shadow's winrate
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>>174497685
Don't you dare post the best girl along with your shitpost.
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>>174497685
Orthrus is quickly becoming one of my favorite cards. She's just so positive and generous. Practically costs nothing at all at four play points you drop her on the board and that chill ass motherfucker gives you 2 attack to a minion and 2 damage to a minion to use instantly in the game. And you also get this adorable little 1/2 can ping things but usually is too harmless to be removed. But more than the Orthrus is just so positive. She comes on the board like "Orthrus has arrived!" and I'm like "yeah Orthrus, you have arrived, let's do this shit" and when she attacks she's like "RAH, RAAAH, BURFF" and I'm like "borf borf awoo" She doesn't say some bullshit macho shit like "GO BLOODKIN" she's just like "nah dog noises are fun." And she looks so happy. I mean this is a demon-dog waifu literally brought to life by video game magic. She understands her life is a temporary magical gift and the girl is just fucking loving it. I mean look at her face he's just so happy. I am literally never sad when Orthrus is on board. IDK if she's gonna make it into the metagame or not but for now she a pretty chill card.
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>>174497320
>Not having at least 1 deck for all classes.
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Can you stop spamming your autism? Thanks
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>>174497909
No
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>>174495007
>>174495148
>>174496523
>>174497010
You're aware this is an ancient stale pasta right?
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>>174497864
but what if I don't want to taint myself with runecraft anon
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>>174495654
3 lion, and 3 tribunal
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>>174497945
mmmmm al dente
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>When they have themis vs when they don't
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>>174498039
>MOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>174495654
you require animated banish boys
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>>174497864
this, except I'm not sure exactly what do play for forest beside wolfbolt
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>>174498078
Our family must be avenged
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>get "win 4 ranked" for 60g
>have exactly 40g
>spent 1.5 hours, finally done with the quest
>bronze and 1 silver
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I have literally never seen a successful flame and glass fusion
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>>174496314
Because shadow reaper exists :^)
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Who's laughing now?
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>>174498184
There
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>>174498184
But what if one day it does happen anon?
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>>174498210
What a honey!
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Someone please post a Haven deck that can win a single game.
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>>174497864
I have something for everything but Sword. Never pulled any Alberts or Tsubaki so I just vial anything Sword related now.
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>>174498210
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>>174495653
Thanks m8
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>>174498380
Just Seraph bro
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>>174498380
Entrust your life TO THE MEMES
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>>174498380
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>>174498380
I went back to Seraph with a Satan teched in like someone recommended. Satan has actually won me a few games against Dragon after Seraph got banished. It's still not the greatest deck, but it can get you some wins.
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>>174498380
Praise Garuda
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>>174495379
My JO crystals are getting banished now
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>>174498884
dumb ass girls can't jo
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Where do followers go when they get banished?
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>>174498884
>using followers
shit deck
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Found an absolute madman
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>>174498976
not into shadowcrafts pool
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>>174499059
well did he get that last shadow?
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>>174498976
Candy Land
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>>174499123
He altered fate his hand
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>>174499057
If you can get that to work you'd be a legend.
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I'm done with this fucking game for a while. Can't be arsed. The lack of sideboarding deciding match outcomes in the queue is just too frustrating for me.
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>>174499438
I win with classic against Concede Blood all the time
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>>174499529
Keep doing your dailies or you'll fuck yourself.
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lmao my 3 maneating mangrove 3 fairy beast 3 aerin 2 homecomings otk roach deck is absolutely shitting on midrange shadow
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>>174499606
I don't care. Done with this game.
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>>174499597
Deck?

>>174499640
Don't dude, you're just on tilt. It's not hard to ping through dailies to keep yourself on life support.It's gonna swing back around
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>>174495329

Too many 1's. Think of them like

>3/3
You will always have ONE of these cards before turn 4.
>2/3
You have a 40% chance of having one of these cards by turn 4
>1/3
You will NOT have this card by turn 4.

Then use this rule to gauge how important it is. Low PP cards are great to have in the first four turns cause they will determine if you go into the evolution turn ahead or behind your opponent's curve in life points or followers on the field. Turn 4-7 this is when aggro decks will rush you to try and whittle your Hp as low as possible for the finisher. Turn 8-10+ is late game, when "I WIN FUCK YOU" cards start appearing and the player with the more expensive hand, usually wins 90% of the time.

Try to stay away from 3/3 copies of cards with high PP costs unless they are vital to your winning strategy. Low cost PP cards are just the safer bet to have 3/3 copies of since you can use them as gap fillers in in between core cards.
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>>174499687
I've been on tilt for the entirety of last week. And the shitty dailies forcing me to play subpar trash classes aren't helping. It's just not worth the frustration.
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>>174499815
i wish theyd let us pick what classes to play for dailies. playing shit decks really isnt fun
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>>174499687
Just the same old original 37 spells, 3 amulets. And by all the time I mean 3 times because that deck is fucking extinct lmao. In my last game the guy played 3 Blood Moons and still lost because he didn't have anything for Baphomet and Imp to trade into while I just charge my crystals turn after turn.
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86297 need concede
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>>174499936
thanks medusa
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I'm guessing he conceded in awe of the dank memes?
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>>174499898
I'm actually starting appreciate Storm Haven because of all the Haven dailies the game keep throwing at me in the last few days.
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>>174500112
Personally, I would have let you finish me. Using cards like that earns you the right.
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>>174500112
I got shit on by that card a few days ago.
Mind posting the deck?
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>>174499898

Got a mandatory Forest daily. I have the pieces for a great Roach deck. The problem though is that I hate playing Roach for Forrest. Everyone knows what you're doing and it isn't fun to play when your sole strategy is:

>Spend 6 turns setting up for roaches, regardless if you're winning or losing
>Turn 7, spend all PP until you have 4, then play roaches

Losing or winning is a gamble. A game that's decided by how fast, your opponent can kill your or by how many wards/heals they can put up.
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Я cтaнoвитьcя cильный!
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HOW THE FUCK DOES EVERY FOREST GET ANCIENT ELF ON TURN 3?
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>>174500112
Got any dank decks?
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>>174500203
>>174500575
It's just a shitty budget midrange homebrew with identity issues. It's incredibly satisfying to play crusher then rites fetches a zell for the evo, grimnir kill, and face though. All those faggots who think grimnir will save them only to get slammed.

>>174500190
Well I mean that with the cerb he'd played, he had 14 dmg to kill the crusher then he'd win as he outplays my topdecks.

>>174500546
Mulligan?
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Also, once you know how far roaches can reach by turn 7 or 8 with a perfect hand, you know exactly what you need to do. You only need to be above 13Hp or have more than two ward defenses by turn 7 to be outside Roaches' lethal range. That's enough to stop all but the most unique Roach set ups.

The more perfect a roach deck is, the easier it is to out play if you keep your HP up, their followers on the field low and save your defenses. That's why forrest Roach is so boring for me. I should get around to crafting a Silverbolt deck....
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>>174500546
Arisa keeps them at commander slot.
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>>174500575
>>174500203
Goddamnit.

Also, as you can see, I don't have any imperial dragoons either. Usually I recover the board with griffon knight/pyroxene and luxfang kits. Pucewyrm baits removal then i can either combo ramp cards or angel crusher into angel crusher zell or forte's to burn him out and end with Grimnir or satan
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>>174495449
>destroyed by ToG
>not RoB
bahamut is such a lazy card and it being printed pretty much ensures that no amulet deck will ever be meta again
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>>174500864
Bahamut was only used by Dragon really, nothing else, so you were safe in other matchups
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>>174496314
>countering eachtar the turn after he kills you
hmm
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>>174497712
It's anti shadow. The amount of banish and board clears that auto activates thanks to candle is a gorrilion times more than what dragon has.
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http://may.2chan.net/b/res/478381360.htm
How will the game become even faster next addon?
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>>174500575
Missing dragoons for closers, ouroboros for cycle/burn/heal, sibyl for healing. It's a pretty fucking fun deck though. Ramp out and tank hits to get rites and the pendants out then start burning. 10 dmg earthshock ogres into 12 dmg grimnirs is orgasmic

>>174500864
Pretty much but there was still the aspect of they had to run bahamut. Now aggro is faster, midrange has basically your tricks but don't have to cuck themselves playing around an amulet, and control has better and faster win cons
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>>174501003
Ironically, I didn't face any shadow with that deck, had 10 matches but none decided to get matched up with me.
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control blood snake is fun, why no one plays it?
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>>174501068
Daria will be able to deck itself out by turn 6 84% of the time

>>174501102
They burned out when the other half of the playerbase dedicated their lives to shitting on the snakes
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>>174501068
There will be a 2 pp card which summons three quickbladers
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>>174501102
Snek blood is so bad
-It loses to a fucking frog
-It loses to old unga blood
-It loses to KYS blood
-It loses to Mastema blood
-It is literally worst blood right now
-Both shadows beat it anyday
-Dragon Bahazells your face by the time you do that combo
-Haven just themises them
-Rune Mutagenics them
Do I need to go on? Snek blood is just pure pathetic
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>>174500575
Don't have 3 Alwida's but dropping 5-11 storm dmg a turn after t6 is pretty dank
I've been playing gawain's too for he t5 combo drop holy grail lottery
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>>174501281
it doesn't lose to old unga blood and rune rarely runs mutagenic. dunno what mastema blood is. Just use drain and you heal 6+
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just literally fought a jap dshitter who's name was "don't bring aggro shadow to unranked"
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KRIPP

WILL

STREAM

SHADOWVERSE

TOMORROW

!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>174501451
>dunno what mastema blood is
A midrange blood deck with Mastema as win condition
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>>174500491
>Я cтaнoвлюcь cильнee!
ftfy
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Shadow is tier 0 with highest winrates so i can't play it.
Dragon is second only to shadow and cheats pp so i can't play it either.
Rune has different cancer decks that were strong in previous expansion and pissing people off even now, can't play it.
Forest had lots of tier 0 decks and now have strong tier 2 deck, everyone's hating roaches, cheat heals, evo and overall tired of this annoying craft, can't play it.
Swordcraft was the second strongest craft for a few expansions and especially cancerous during end of rob, can't play it.
Havencraft was very good in DE, to the point of making memes about it and they got new tool to piss people off even more, one of the most dishonest crafts, can't play it.
Blood had good aggro deck in rob and in the middle of tier 2 with their meme dealers. Guess that's the only deck that i can play without complains and tears of other anons.
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>>174501741
I feel exactly the same way.
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>>174501717
Kill yourself
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>>174501717
I can't wait for him to fail vs anomaly/aigis/grimnir
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>>174501717
Let me guess. he'll play ramp dragon.
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>>174501632
as opposed to figuratively anon?
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>>174501741
I don't think anyone would ever complain about dirt rune, storm haven, frog sword, they would just mock it and question its viability.
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DIVERSE META!
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>>174501789
That's /hsg/ and Discord for you.
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>>174501717
E-celebs belong in the trash, reddit-kun
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>174501717
Great, time for another eceleb to get his ass
reamed by Shadow and his fanboys comes here crying nonstop.
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>>174498039
The fuck is this memedeck?
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>>174501789
People who care are already checking his shit. It's 4chan, keep the e-celeb shit out of here. It's shadowverse general not jerk off some guy and two sides shitpost at each other over it for 80 posts every time
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>>174502069
Discord Dragon Reloaded: Electric Boogaloo Zweiwing
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There is no master reward for top 1000 this month right?
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>Ramp Dragon is finally a thing
>Bahamut existing means that Fafnir may as well not.

I am legitimately sad about this.
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>>174502069
Supposed to be discard dragon with Pucewyrm/angel crusher as the workhorse and imperial dragoon/zell-crusher as its finisher. It's fun to beat up on greedy decks.
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>>174502115
>>174502172
Does it work? Does it work in masters?
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why is azazel an unusable word for naming my azazel otk deck
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>>174502169
>fafnir is as beaten as a dead horse
>siegfred still wants to pick a bone with him

That dragon just cannot get a break.
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>>174502231
Azazel is too sexual.
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>>174502215
Why don't you try it?
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>>174502169
It was already a thing last expansion.
I wish they'd make an enhance spell with Fafnir or something though. He was good to me in DE and early RoB.
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>>174502169
Don't forget about Grimnir and Wrath drake. Both are usually better than Fafnir.
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>>174502215
Anything can as long as you keep playing it until it wins.
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>>174502273
I don't have a dicklist.
Already spent my creadivity on homebrew discard OTK.
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>>174502169
>>174502240
Don't forget that Wrath drake is a cheaper more flexible fafnir with a stronger fanfare in exchange for a weaker body that virtually never mattered anyway due to all the removal. Also fucking grimnir, dark jeanne, bloodhungry, etc....

>>174502215
Well I don't have a lot of cards for it and those cards significantly impact it. It's a bit too reliant on rites at the moment. Beyond that it works pretty well and should be good after you fix it up to have a better focus instead of being all over.
1 rank away yet but I suppose if you played it long enough you'd find where it is

>>174502362
>>174500779
>>174500612
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>>174502362
If you got dragoons then you're golden. All you need to do is get one slug in and you got them
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>>174502593
>discard dragon
>wincon is still Grminir

This fucking card need to be fucking removed already.
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>>174502461
>>174502593
I do have Dragoons.
Let me see if I can modify that deck.
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>>174502659
I don't have dragoons and I'm not blowing 10.5k vials on them. P.S. The win con is who has the bigger penis in the relationship. If they don't run enough of or don't get enough removal they're toast
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>>174502659
Any decks with grimnir is basically having a second wincon.
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>Zoe, Queen of Goldenia

What the absolute FUCK is this waste of a gold card?
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>>174502858
What would you swap out if you had Dragoon?
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can a man's get his concede's

10139
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>>174502917
They wanted to make some Dark Jeanne support. It needed to be 4/4 to justify that downside though, or only hits face instead of other followers.
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>>174502917
Gold card usually have rare abilities. It's a GOLDenia card that has a unique ability of killing yourself faster.
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>>174502917
Good if you use sunglight amulet.
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Executioners Axe is underrated. You need to start experimenting with it in control blood.
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>>174501717
>reddit spacing
How surprising.
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>>174502992
>>174502858
Satan probably.
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>>174503024
thanks smug nep
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How has Mastema been overlooked like this? Card is so fucking good. Either bust a large ward to bust through your little guys, or have a big ass fuckin threat your opponent HAS to deal with or they're about to take A LOT to the dome, this card matched with some midrange has been doing wonders for me.

Currently ~ 30-5 with it, 4 losses to shadow and 1 to Haven (Don't ask)
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>>174503153
>Control Blood
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>>174502659
It gets worse when >4hp no longer means you're safe

>>174502992
Fuck if I know. I'd probably swap out the satan's and lightning blast for 20 games. If that was causing too many deckouts then I dunno since you also want forte for shifting them into kill range. You could play with oracle/aiela/fervor I guess since there's sibyl and you're already up shit creek if you don't have rites by t6 and if you do you're going to be milling with fervor.

>>174503117
She's an overstatted ward in sun and is cheap
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>>174503337
You laugh now but once you add in Limil's way and Alpha Wolfman it all comes together.
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>watch some nip dragon streamer who's around 40k points
>going first against aggroblood
>lightning blasts vampy's board on t6
:^(
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>>174503315
Decks weren't as greedy. I've been getting kills with shit like skull dragon, inferno dragon, angel crusher, and other stuff because they're going too aggressive
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>>174501717
>d-rank shitter
no
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>bring midrange shadow to unranked
i am scum, please insult me /svg/
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30k vival and bonch of legendary still can't find good sword build!
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>>174501717
The worst time to be advertising the game. Current meta is worse than even Hearthstone ever was.
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>play dragon
>brick like a nigger
>barely draw any ramp
>blast from the past.png
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>>174503616
Do you honestly believe that? Holy fuck you're retarded.
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>>174503662
>urd
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>>174503616
Pirate Warrior was still worse in its heyday.
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>>174503616
>worse
>rogue killing you as early as turn 5

Haha, no.
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>>174503721
>not urding forte
>not urding aiuola
>not urding genny
>not urding ouzo
>not urding 10/10 reapers
>not using the secret urd 18 damage combo
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>>174503548
It's okay anon, I do it as well. Gotta get those dailies done.
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>>174503569
"Mid"sword still have a positive winrate. Though I'm unsure if it the one with luminous mage + grimnir or dod + grimnir.
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>>174503834
if those are not instantly removed you won anyway
apart from ramp girl what's her name
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Why is she taking off her panties?
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Canonically, does Cerberus have hands? Or are Coco and Mimi actually just puppets?
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>>174503361
-2 Satan
-1 Lightning Blast
+2 Dragoon
+1 Breath of the Salamander
Werks against midrange Shadow at least.
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>>174503839
Titty Luna is the only good Luna.
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>>174503945
She's about to take a big, stinky, fibrous elf SHIT.
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>>174502917
i feel like theyre going to do new haven deck with self damage gimmick next expansion with cards like jeanne and zoe

>class identity
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Hnnnnggggggg!
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>>174503971
When you play Coco/Mini you see they're actual puppets. Unintelligent frogposter
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How do people climb to master with complete fucking shit decks?
Are they just incredibly lucky? I fight so many fuckers with trash decks and only lose because i brick hard even with aggro/mid decks
so fucking stupid
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>>174504195
tran slate it weebs
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>>174503616
Nah its not as bad as Gadgetzan meta, but Ungoro meta is for sure way more diverse than Tempest right now.
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>>174503914
You can do forte+urd in one turn.
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well?
i have baphomet and sneks, the only thing it can pull is snek
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>>174504227
Why would you use shit decks to climb?
Aggro blood and shadow are cheap as fuck, and it's not like a Daria deck was hard to craft for anyone that was close to masters anyways.
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>>174504468
Right.
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>>174504427
do you really think i didn't know that
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>>174504468
Is there any reason to not get Blood Moon in T2? The game mode is slow enough for you to drop it without losing much tempo.
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>>174503789
As opposed to the skellington armies doing the same thing?
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>>174504195
>post comic
>never with translation
wtf I hate weebs now
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>>174504603
Stop implying that they will always have a catacomb in hand.
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>>174504219
But s she ever depicted in offical art with actual hands? For all I know she could have stumps under there. I don't play granblue or anything so idk if she ever has full digitation in other games.
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>>174503698
>>174503753
>>174503789
>>174504386
>The denial
Point me to a hearthstone deck with 60% winrate and 0 negative matchups.
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>>174501068
It won't.
I figure next expansion will focus on negation and better protection cards. hopefully no floodgates.
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>>174504653
>B-B-BUT IT BRICKS
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>>174504732
Look, ma! No hands!
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>>174501281
>snakes losing to frogs
what the FUCK cygaems??!
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translate
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>>174504749
Idk about hearthstone's meta being better or worse but shadowva is far better for free to play peasants like myself.
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>>174504817
>tfw no amputee waifu
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>>174504749
>insisting on being a statisticfag

Enjoy playing against pirate warrior and quest rogue for 2 years then.
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>>174504749
Back when it was Shamanstone.
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>>174504857
Hearthstone meta right now is:
Forced quest rogue, this deck was not even "found", deck was provided by HS team and everyone just copied it
Forced Taunt warrior, given overstated minions you don't have to think, just drop taunts on curved and then press hero power
Pirate warrior, YAAAAR
Miracle Rogue, vomit your hand every turn and win
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This expansion made me like Blood a lot more.
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>>174505021
>this deck was not even "found", deck was provided by HS team and everyone just copied it
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>>174504957
>whining about quest rogue of all fucking things
Shows how much the average shadowbab knows.
Just accept that your "MTG pros" have no fucking idea how to balance a game. Game keeps getting worse every expansion with no sign of things ever changing.
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>>174505068
>he doesn't know about the greatness of deck recipes, introduced since OG
And you still don't have prebuilt decks to buy.
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farming shadowbads all day with my homecoming otk anti shadownigger deck
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>>174505068
HS has new level of autopilot. Imagine prebuild deck, but you can't buy it but have to open packs.
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>>174505202
that's depressing
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>>174505095
>hurdurduh bouncing 5/5 with charge is hard
The only rogue deck that requires skills is Oil Rogue, and blizz ruined it because muh design space. Thanks for reminding me, asshole.
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>Phoenix Roost still locked
I just want to meme. There be be compensation for this.
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>>174505308
I think that compensation should be that everyone gets three copies for free.
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>>174502917
overstatted cards always find some use. just look at devil of vengeance
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>>174505386
>Beast Dominator
>All those useless dragon followers
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Cygames released a fan kit on the SV website.
https://shadowverse.jp/special/fankit/
You can download a bunch of game assets there, like backgrounds, character portraits, expansion logos, and rank icons.
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>>174505386
>just look at this garbage card
Not sure what point you're trying to make here.
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>>174505386
Some overstatted cards are just awful, like angelic noble
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>>174505095
>rogue deck
>brain
I never knew "I drop swashburglar, I return it to hand" required much brain. Though compare it to pirate/quest warrior it's really an improvement
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>>174505443
https://shadowverse.com/special/fankit/
Accidentally put the JP link, but I guess it doesn't really matter.
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>>174505443
noice
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This is getting silly, last 6 games vs Shadow
And yes I know I'm adding to the cancer
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Is there something weird with Kaguya's Last Word ability or something?

Sometimes it just...doesn't activate.
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>>174504143
I don't like it when they make cards that doesn't have enough cards to support it. It hasn't worked so far, just look at Eidolon, dragonsong flute, Rose Queen and Pascale. They will more likely replace the legendaries that doesn't work like they did with Fafnir.
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>>174505458
It's core to KYS Blood. Ticking time bomb unless it gets removed, but most don't want to bash things into it turn 3 since they'll lose the trade miserably to a 4/4.
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>last 2 ToG packs have been 7x Bronze 1x Silver, all non-animated
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>>174505626
lock on evo
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>>174505626
did you evolve her
was she banished
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>>174505468
>like angelic noble
I wouldn't really consider a 6/6 for 6 overstatted when both zoe and devil have at least one stat above their cost. Not that it even matters because flat out can't attack face is retarded.

she is a top tier qt though.
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>>174505671
>>174505672
Oh. Im dumb.
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>>174505772
Interesting
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>>174501721
Post this deck, tell me about match ups and mulligan and what's the general aim. Thanks
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>Wake up
>No nerfs announced
Guess they still need to collect more data huh
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>>174505772
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>>174505772
Would pull my morde and kam all over her ura.
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>>174501721
It's just an aggro deck with baphomets and mastemas... midrange my ass
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>>174505896
Both Dragon and Shadow winrate has been declining each day, Dragon is already down to a flat 50%.
At this point, only Shadow will require a slight nerf to be brought in line.
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>>174505956
What is Baphomet for?
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>>174505443
Meh
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>>174505962
They're declining because their play rates are going up.
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Luna = daughter
Eris = mother
This is frankly a fact, soon to be revleaed in story mode
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>>174505962
And then sword will be cancer T1, AGAIN
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>>174505987
Pulling mastema, kinda like maid leader to albert.
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>>174501721
>take normal aggro blood deck
>-3 shit
>+3 mastema
>we midrange now
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>>174505987
Come on dude
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>>174506037
Why would you want to pull her? Better to play a better 2 drop and draw her naturally on 5.
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Dragon main here. I'm going to be straight. I am a cuckold, but I am also a white nationalist. I believe that whites have contributed more to humanity than any other race, space travel, anti—biotics the list goes on. But when it comes down to it, blacks are just better at fucking. Theres no shame in admitting this. There is no shame in admitting that despite the infinite intellectual and moral superiority of the white race, black cock is just better at pleasing women.

The reason white women are turning from the cause and running to niggers is simply because they are not being sexually satisfied. Can you blame them? If you dont get enough to eat at home youre going to go out to eat. The only way to save the white race from miscegenation is cuckolding. My pure white wife Forte is my angel, the apple of my eye. And I want nothing but the best for her. So every friday she gets to have her fill of big black cock. And our relationship goes on like normal. We love each other, and plan on having a child soon. She also shares my red pilled beliefs.

Monogamy is a tool of the jew. Just give it a chance once. Its exhilarating. Theres something deeply majestic about watching a toned muscular black stud going in and out of a beautiful white woman. Try it once.
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>>174506016
Maybe you sgould play the fucking story yourself and see that her mother was already shown.
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>>174505962
>Playrates go up
>Winrates go down
Really makes you think
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>>174506092
head canon fags are always in denial about any story plot
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>dragon match
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>>174506046
Just like how albertsword was "midrange".

Something something curve end at x so therefore midrange.

>>174506072
Same reason why maid leader is played even though her stats suck ass?
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>>174506072
>Why would you want to pull Albert? Better to play a better 2 drop and draw him naturally on 5
Shadowbabs please
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>>174506092
fraction of Luna's imagination, that were not her biological parents
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>>174506090
Reminder that Forte is a strong and independent BLACK dragon lady.
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>>174506159
It seems I underestimated Mastema's importance. Thank you for clarifying that she is as good as Albert for closing out games. This makes sense now.
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>>174506142
Did that guy burned out his storm followers?
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>>174506226
I don't know if you are being sarcastic but you need to understand that a Mastema played on curve on turn 5 is very strong while playing her later on is terrible, better to have a tutor for her and be done with it.
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>>174506142
This is why Satan exists.
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>>174506203
Dragon main here. I'm going to be straight. I am a cuckold, but I am also a white nationalist. I believe that whites have contributed more to humanity than any other race, space travel, anti—biotics the list goes on. But when it comes down to it, blacks are just better at fucking. Theres no shame in admitting this. There is no shame in admitting that despite the infinite intellectual and moral superiority of the white race, black cock is just better at pleasing women.

The reason white women are turning from the cause and running to niggers is simply because they are not being sexually satisfied. Can you blame them? If you dont get enough to eat at home youre going to go out to eat. The only way to save the white race from miscegenation is cuckolding. My pure black dragon wife Forte is my angel, the apple of my eye. And I want nothing but the best for her. So every friday she gets to have her fill of big black cock. And our relationship goes on like normal. We love each other, and plan on having a child soon. She also shares my red pilled beliefs.

Monogamy is a tool of the jew. Just give it a chance once. Its exhilarating. Theres something deeply majestic about watching a toned muscular black stud going in and out of a beautiful white woman. Try it once.
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Can I get a concede?
19130
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>>174506336
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>>174506404
Report and ignore the spam.
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>>174506367
Thanks Neptits-sama!
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i remember when these pastas are reserved for rune mains

memes sure evolve fast
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>>174506446
>ywn facefuck the dork using her horns as handlebars
why even ramp
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Can someone explain to me the tarzan forest list?
I don't fucking get how you're supposed to play it.
Stall till OTK? Tempo-ish with roach doing good chip damage to finish off with tarzan?

I'm having more success with fucking beetlecraft.
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>>174504770
>I figure next expansion will focus on negation and better protection cards.
>In a game that enforces turn 7-10 match end
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>>174506576
10ppTarzan gives you an alternative way out. You play differently depending on the situation
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man kys blood is so frustrating to play against when they curve out. im pretty sure you shitheads just autolose when you brick
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>>174506650
the definition of bricking for kys blood is not drawing belphegor/soul dealer.
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>>174506613
I don't even make it to 10 most of the time and I run out of steam.

I tried going face more and stalling.
One gets outhealed by dragon, the other makes me run out of steam.
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>>174506650
>Autolose/autowin decks
Nice game shadowbabs
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Purge the dragon menace!
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>>174506116
>nerfing a 50% winrate deck
>a deck that doesn't even perform particularly well in tournaments
So after ignoring objective numbers, reasons for nerfing dragon is just "muh feels, I totally know they're op"
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>>174506604
>protect your own field
>win faster
catacomb is already doing this in a roundabout way. this should give you a taste of how powerful reliable protection can be. i think it'll be the next step of powercreep eventually
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So my dad works at Cygames and they're already working on th new expac.
It's not sure yet if there will be 2 legs per craft again, but here's the planned ones anyway.

Blood: 7PP 1/1 storm. Fanfare: Discard four cards, then switch your leader's and the opponent's defense.
Dragon: 7PP Spell. Draw until your hand has six cards in it. Then both players discard their hands.
Forest: 4PP amulet. Enemy followers can't attack on the turn they're played unless they are evolved.
Haven: 5PP 2/4. Fanfare: Restore 2 defense to your leader X times, where X is the turn number.
Rune: 4PP Amulet. As long as you have an Earth Sigil in play, Earth Rite effects won't consume amulets.
Shadow: 6PP spell. Necromancy 7: Summon a copy of a random follower with the highest cost that has been destroyed so far.
Enhance 9: Repeat for remaining shadows.
Sword: 7PP 1/15 Rush, Bane. Can attack six times per turn. Can't attack the enemy leader.
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Both you and shadow should be shoah'd
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>>174506973
GIVE THEM NO QUARTER!
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>>174506973
>shadownigger thinking he isn't as bad as dragon
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>>174507059
Doing you a favor, trimming the menace out of the meta just for you.
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>>174507046
Not OP enough 4/10
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>>174507112
You're making it worse by playing shadow. Fuck off bandwagonner.
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>>174507046
>Blood: 7PP 1/1 storm. Fanfare: Discard four cards, then switch your leader's and the opponent's defense.

>be at 1hp against wallet dragon
>play this
>win
Yes please.
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>>174507146
Of course not, the only way to keep the balance is to fight with equal levels of strength. I'm taking one for the team, so you face less dragons.
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>>174504227
Why is her face bigger on the lower side?
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>>174507046
>Sword: 7PP 1/15 Rush, Bane. Can attack six times per turn. Can't attack the enemy leader.
Fuck anything about this card.

t. Daria
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>>174507046
"Rune should be dirt only" the expansion.
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Budget aggro forest deck for dailies.

New bronze and silver cards aren't good for meta decks but they make for decent pauper decks for dailies which forest had been lacking since STD. Try to play sukuna together with another high priority target like beetle and dark elf. Combo beetle with free fairy and ivy spellbomb on turn6 for some surprise burst.
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>>174507112
I rather have shadow purged.
Dragon can be purged after them.
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Beautiful, powerful, and cute to boot! Your one and only Orthrus has arrived!
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>>174507175
>56% vs 51% winrate
>equal levels of strength
Lunapedos have become delusional
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>>174507326
I wish I didn't see this card so often. Would be cute if mid range got played less.
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Fuck, it's been some time since i played this game
I think i stopped during the beginning of bahamut
Has the Daria cancer stopped?
Also, is midsword at least playable again?
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>>174507274
Rune SHOULD be Dirt only. Spellboost is cancer. Rune being not viable is the best thing about TotG.
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>>174507346
Skewed percentages due to misreporting, for both decks
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>>174507385
1)Yes.
2) no. They'll giving you a 7pp board clear next expansion though.
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>>174507385
it was the strongest deck in the end of RoB. you missed your chance famalam
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>>174507349
That's not how cuteness works Anon
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>>174507385
>Has the Daria cancer stopped?
Yes but it has been replaced by bigger cancer
>Also, is midsword at least playable again?
If by that you mean Albertcraft, yes.
If you mean DE midrange, no.
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>>174507385
Midrange Shadow is at 58% winrate and has no counters. Dragon is the only thing that has a slight chance of beating it, so the meta is Midrange Shadow, Aggro Shadow and Ramp Dragon.
Rune is completely dead.
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>>174507046
>Haven: 5PP 2/4. Fanfare: Restore 2 defense to your leader X times, where X is the turn number.

Is aggro going to be kill?
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>>174506116
I guess what we need is to buff certain cards from other classes then, because Sword, Rune, and Blood see hardly play anymore.
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>>174506336
To bad you're whito piggu but your only contributed is masturbating to asian cartoon
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>>174507484
Pretending to be obtuse won't save your favorite class from being nerfed.
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>>174507484
They don't need buffs. It's just Shadow that is over the top broken, so nothing else is viable because they don't have bad match ups. Nerf Shadow and Zell, and we'll have a more diverse meta.
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>>174507430
>>174507442
>>174507459
>>174507462

So, to sum everything up, shadow and dragon are the only decent decks now, and if i try anything else i'm going to cry?
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>selwyn summoned a full field fairies on turn 4
>killed them all with foul tempest
Sorry bro but that was too tempting.
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>>174507604
Dragon has counters. You can have a fun time playing Vengeance Blood or Storm Haven to counter Dragon. Just accept that you'll lose to Shadow.
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>>174507604
No, every craft has a playable deck.
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>>174507672
Rune.
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>>174507412
Why am I not suprised that the Shadowcancer is trying to undermine the worth of the only objective measurement of a deck.
You can misreport midrange shadow as aggroshadow but you can't misreport overall class winrates. Reported Daria winrate was the same as the official relased winrate.
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>>174507672
>Rune
>playable
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>>174507683
The first match in the video is fairly fun to watch. The rest are pretty good too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oGJGwtlKtk
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i might quit this game because cygames has activated some sort of curse on my packs. 30 packs no leggo? fuck off man
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>>174507780
i just got gawain, roland and zeus from 5 packs right now i think i stole your luck buddy sorry
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C'mon buddy, is this really necessary? Don't be a sore loser.
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>>174507780
Everyone's been through 20 - 40 packs with no leggo before.
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LEAVE ME ALONE DRAGONFAGS HOLY SHIT
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>>174507913
>3 shit leggos
nah
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Same poster
>>174507281
Possible upgrades:
Wind God/Cynthia/Tia -> Feena
Ancient Elf/Grimnir -> Dark Elf Faure
Rhinoceros Beetle -> OneTwo/Sukuna/Whisperer
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Is storm satan ramp even viable or stan is just tech?
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>>174507919
>havenshitter
That's a common course of action for them.
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>>174507919
>is this really necessary?
nobody likes playing against shadow
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>>174508034
Satan is a meme lego as of right now. Dragon has enough burst to be used as finishers and Haven has now Aegis.
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>>174508034
Ramp satan is the only viable satan deck left.
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>>174508083
speak for yourself
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This fella must feel a little bit masochistic to play DShift in this meta.
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>>174507919
>shadownigger
You deserve it.
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>>174507780
Do this:
>buy forest prebuilt x3
>craft Aerin x3 Jungle Warden x3 Grimnir x3
Congratulations. You have graduated from this expansion.
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>>174507919
I rope and disconnect every shadow player I meet. Unless it's an atomemer
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Found the sisters
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>>174508196
enjoy roping and disconnecting every other game
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>>174508203
This fucking curve, goddamnit.
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>>174508196
I hope you realize cygames actually suspends people for this. But if you're disliking the meta so very much to go as far as to do this, that may be a good thing.
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>>174508317
Enjoy your 1-4
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>>174508372
Not him, but I've never heard of anyone being banned or having their account suspending for roping or DCing.
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>>174508461
Not roping but I've been suspended for DCing in DE, I DCed havenshitters the whole expansion tho, got two weeks suspension.
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>>174494871
"Undub and uncensor."
So does it just use the original Korean/Japanese dub and shows more panty shots?
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>>174508545
The only thing that was censored is isabelle's tits.
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>>174508545
Japanese dub and uncensored Isabelle tits. Nothing else.
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>>174498131

I've been playing OTK Roach and it's great for farming dragons or pretty much anything that isn't Shadow.
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>>174506973
>dragon menace
That nigger is playing discard dragon.
You're the menace here shadownigger.
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>>174508728
i actually lose to dragon more than shadow with forest, idk what you guys are smoking honestly. forest shits on shadow if you tech properly. even if you tech for dragon they will shit on you
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>>174505962
winrate is not a problem
they need to powercreep next expansion
This time they introduced super fast aggro/mid decks and super good control
While they can give us neutral counters to shadow, I don't think they can powercreep fucking dragon. I mean, it will literally break the game if they print something, that will beat "Lategame starts at T6"
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>>174508793
Shadow has 63% winrate against Forest. It's only higher against Rune.
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>>174508785
>egg
>disco dragon
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>>174508785
>Same deck size
>Discard
You're dense as Oil.
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>>174507919
>shadownigger
You deserve to be roped at every turn before they disconnect.
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>>174508858
Dragon has counters already. What the fuck are you talking about?
>late game starts at 6
Wow, it's almost as if it's a Ramp deck or something.
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How strong is the need of a Tsubaki in midsword?
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>>174508973
She only kills everything
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>>174508962
you have to stop, Rowen, enough
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>>174508973
you can replace her with DoD
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>>174508940
>>174508910
>not playing eggs in disco dragon
Not that I would expect netdecking shaddowniggers to know shit about the game.
You're the biggest plebs.
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>>174508858
>my 56% winrate class is not a problem, this 50% winrate deck that has multiple bad match ups is!
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174508858
Giving dragon MORE ramp cards will make it worse. Making any good neutral cards will make Dragon worse. Making good Dragon cards will make it worse thank god the later rarely happens
Midshadow is strong for now untill the next cancer replaces it next expansion. Dragon's entire ramp mechanic is extremely strong at it's core and can only get stronger from now on.
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>>174508962
><op thing>
>wow its almost as if its supposed to be op xD
this is how retarded you sound
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>>174507326
Kys dubcuck
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>tfw opponent plays a control deck
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I hope this d-shifter doesn't use the in game feature to report me.
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>>174509076
Nice damage control, cuck.
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>>174509141
>Ramp as a concept is OP
t. D0
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>>174509195
>cheating PP is somehow not OP
t. story mode chapter 3
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>>174509140
In the latest interview they said, that blood, dragon and shadow is their main focus in this expansion.
I can imagine they will be buffing other crafts next, but if they won't nerf dragon, they'll have to print something fucking ridiculous
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>>174508973
Depends on the amount of dragons you need. People run 2-3 most of the times.
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>>174509219
Who's campaign?
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>>174509219
Yeah, that's why Ramp has been tier 0 since Standard, right?
Fucking falseflagging shadownigger.
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>>174509219
>turn x do nothing is somehow op
t. tutorial part 2
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>>174509189
>get's told
>n-nice damagecontrol c-cuck!
You sure showed me.
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>>174509195
>Literally cheating out pp points is not OP.
A couple more cards like Sybil and dragon will be unstoppable. So far ramp was really turn x do nothing to upset the gains but because Dragoncucks cried so hard they gave them a ramping Lucifer. Why not let haven play Aegis on turn 6 for example, totally not OP.
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>>174509219
Ramp is garbage or a meme in a lot of card games and Dragon had to be given multiple insanely strong cards to even be viable this expansion and it can barely keep a positive winrate
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174509272
>discussion about ramp being OP
>falseflagging shadownigger
Do you even know what falseflagging means, you dumbass redditor?
A false flag from a "shadownigger" would be saying "hey guys, Shadow isn't OP!". On the other hand, a "shadownigger" saying that ramp as a mechanic is OP is not a falseflag, but just them bitching.
Learn what the terms that you're using actually mean before you start parroting them.
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>aggro shadow vs dragon
>oracle
>T4 double salamander
>fervor
>sybil
>another salamander
>2 more sybil
>something something 2 unica, 2 rahab, bahamut
this MOTHERFUCKER
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>>174509385
He's using the tried and true havenshitter "everyone who hates my craft" is a shadowjew deflection tactic, except that it doesn't even makes sence here because shadow beats dragon most of the time.
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>>174509441
Get bent.
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>shadowbabs have massive winrate against all classes
>they're still complaining about most irrelevant bullshit
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>>174509385
>discussion about ramp being OP
Wrong, the discussions started because a faggot said Dragon is a bigger problem than Shadow.

>shadownigger so desperate he starts nitpicking
lmao
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>>174509385
you need to realize the people in this thread don't care about using correct terms or even about making a good argument, they just want to demonize the current scapegoat craft for whatever reason instead of talking about the true culprit: cygames' incompetence
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>>174509482
You see shadowniggers here complaining even though their craft has a whooping 56% winrate.
Dragon is a thorn in their eye since it's the only class that doesn't auto concede at the sight of them and still has a 45% chance to win unlike other classes.
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>>174509578
not a lot of people have enough vials for dragon deck
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>>174509310
>told
What exactly did you tell me? That the guy was playing disco? How do you know for sure what's in his deck judging from just 1 card? Are you the loser that just lost there? Egg is a generic Dragon card, it can go in any Dragon deck. The only card that's exclusive to disco is Rites and Dragonewt. Beyond that it can be anything, even Dragoon is sometimes used as a finishes in Ramp. I know you Dragon players are cucks that are used to being laughed at, but this is just pathetic.
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>>174509737
Good news anon but because Saha dragon isn't even the best dragon deck. Now craft those Fortes and go storm Luna's face.
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>>174509620
How does it make the fact that ramp is OP as a mechanic not true?
>b-but muh do nothing
With all your constant dragonscum bitching cygames is printing more and more "do something" ramp cards which have no downside. Expect ramp with rush and draw on bodies soon.
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>>174509620
>Wrong,
>the discussion started
So there is a discussion? Good job contradicting yourself.

>Dragon is a bigger problem than Shadow.
And no actually, no one said that.
This was my first post in this reply chain. >>174505962
I was the one to first say that Shadow is the only one that needs nerfs, and that Dragon is already fine the way it is.
But >>174509141 was also me. Because, yes, ramp as a mechanic is OP. Just like D-Shift is a card is OP. Turn and resource cheats are OP and unfun to play against in every TCG/CCG, no matter their winrates.

>redditor so defensive over being called out he saying random shit and trying to deflect
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I fap to ErisxLuna, am I okay shadowbabs?
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>>174509713
Yeah because literally nobody else has any problems whatsoever with honest turn 6 bahamut plays, right? Stop fucking trying to divert atention from the fact that nothing outside of perfect curve ultra aggro or sticky shadow even stands a chance past turn 5.
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>>174509862
but there's like one picture of that
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>>174509820
you still need more vials than for a shadow deck m8
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>>174509930
There are a lot of counters to dragon. You don't even need a perfect ultra curve to kill them.
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>>174508196
I also play other game in the background so thank you for gave me time to that :^)
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>>174510006
Yeah. That's also the reason why're people here defending Shadow.
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>>174509945
Enough for me
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>>174510047
Go ahead name them. And please don't fucking say aegis haven or dshift because they are not.
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>>174509930
Sure thing, shadownigger.
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So have people started teching in Angelic Barrage yet
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>>174510076
Honestly, i don't want to find the reason for winrates, especially considering that they are only true for people, who submitted their games.
I just want control to be viable again and some counter to shadow's diarrhea
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>>174510143
>>174510156
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>>174510156
>aggro
>aggro
>shadow
>face
>aggro
>shadow

Thanks for proving my point retard.
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>>174510156
>Nep is dead
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>the titular legendary is a shitty card no one uses

What does Cygames mean by this?
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Yo someone give me the latest mid shadow list.
I want to spread the cancer.
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>>174510143
Forest, Stormhaven, KYS Blood
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>>174510329
some faggot in previous threads shilled his shitty ledger-neph reddit netdeck and i crafted 2 fucking nephtits like a retard
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>>174510370
I've seen some ramp dragon players using him. He's not bad by any means, just overshadowed by others, especially Israfil.
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>>174510329
Nep ledger is pretty fun but you'll lose to elf, and pretty much any haven a lot. Shadow mirrors depend on going first and drawing ledger on turn 4.
Worth it to extra trigger dragoncucks though.
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>>174510440
I opened 2 Nepthyses like a retard during the RoB era. Had some fun with her during that times.
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>>174510405
>>174510047
>dragoncraft became top tier, but Rowen kept bitching just out of habit
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>>174510378
Nah, bandwagoners can fuck off.
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>>174510440
What list? Because I have a very high suspicion the shitters from leddit copied it from some Nip who actually knows how to play it.
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>>174510449
Do some end-of-turn liches really do much when you cannot evo-trade with them? I still don't have a playset yet, but just seems meh on paper.
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>>174510329
>play 5 games with nep on ladder yesterday
>haven, haven, forest, shadow, shadow
it might as well be dead when I don't see a single greedy ramp dragon
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>>174510440
>>174510589
The list is alright, I high rolled a Morde from turn 9 Ledger against a kys Blood that bricked today.
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>>174510274
First off, you said
>perfect curve ultra aggro
You also said
>even stands a chance past turn 5
Which means that late game decks should be have terrible match ups against them, but they don't. A lot of them are just slightly unfavored.
>Nep, Storm Haven, Face Dragon, Control Forest are aggro decks
t. D rank
>inb4 B-BUT FACE DRAGON/STORM HAVEN IS AGGRO
t. E rank.
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>>174510370
He's by no means a bad card, I am just disappointed that he's so generic. Olivia introduced refilling evo points, Bahamut has attack restriction that nobody else has, but for Zeus they just slapped bane storm and ward on him and called it a day. So boring.
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>>174510737
are you saying that list is alright because you won 1 game and that was only because opponent bricked?
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>>174510652
The way it mostly works is that if you get a ledger early game it will pull 2 liches.
You can only play 2 attendants to make late game ledger only pull kamura/mordecai for example. Because you're also going to naturally draw some of those lich generators playing more that 2 is better. I tried 3 attendants and 2 hell's unleashers and if I get a ledger early I'm almost always guaranteed 4pp-less nep drops but it's a risk.
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>>174510814
Of course bro, do you even highroll? Are you an unluckshitter?
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>>174510776
>hurr it kills me on turn 6 b-but it's not aggro I swear

Those deck's main goal is still be agresive as possible.
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I fought someone using a Ledger deck featuring Eachtar earlier.
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How much do you have for next expansion, /svg/?
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>>174511045
I still need stuff from this expansion.
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>>174511045
935
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Anyone with a good WolfBolt Roach hybrid list?
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>>174511045
2700 gold
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>>174511034
I faced one of those not too long ago
>finishes his turn
>ledger pulls eachtar
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>>174511034
There're are a lot of those on the Nip channels. I kinda see how it works but at the same time also don't.
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>>174510589
it is copied from a nip. the guy said so himself
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I've been avoiding playing the game since installing it for about three days, I think I'm afraid of losing badly.
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>>174511261
Just play midrange shadow.
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>>174511261
Craft a cancer deck and you won't be losing badly.
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>>174511147
Even worse when ledger pulls a Nep.
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>>174511045
2680
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>>174509807
>can go in any Dragon deck
Except it doesn't.
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http://game-ai.jp/31322/
I almost wanna make the Ouros for this deck.
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Earth rite
>Play shitty earth sigils
>Play illusionist
>Everytime he dies he consume one of the useless sigils and comes back
>You need them for other stuff

Shadow
>Play actual followers every turn
>Play catacomb
>All followers will spawn something upon death, no wasted pp, pure profit
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>>174511353
It's just a shit card overall. Then again, you can have a positive winrate as long as you run this piece of shit.
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Ohayou ganbarimasu desuyo fampai
Hear the voice of best loli whispering into your ear for an instant boost of mood and energy. no dub please

http://usamin.love/sv.html#elf_girl
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>>174511456
Only because it takes up a precious slot for one of their 15 legos. It doesn't really hurt the deck in any way or is anti some specific dragon mechanic.
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>>174511614
That's not Lily.
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>>174511592
It's not that bad, really. I just wish there was some sort of consistency to it, like only pulling the highest cost first or something like that.
Turn 4 ledger is pretty strong.
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>>174510794
I would've figured Satan was the mascot for DE.
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>>174511543
OTK in this game is fucking cancer because it has almost no counterplay
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>>174511614
Steampunk Liza when?
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Reminder that Cygames will be introducing a new mechanic next expansion and they'll be giving most cards with it to Rune because it's curretly the weakest craft.
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>>174511894
God I hope their database crashes and accidentally deletes Rune from the game permanently.
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>>174508379
better thane expected. sahafil carried the late game with alexander
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>>174511948
Yes please, kill this shitty game even faster.
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>>174511805
t. """"control"""bab
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>>174511856
When cygames realize she is the best loli and Miyazaki Hayao draws her doujin in secret.
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>>174512105
i wonder who can be behind this post
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>Eachtar in Nep/Ledge deck
Yay or nay? I can see potential in it, but sadly I cannot afford vials for experimental purposes.
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>even Take Two comes down to Dragon vs Shadow
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>>174511619
Exactly my point.
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>it's legitimately hard to beat someone who's only capable of playing the biggest thing on curve because it's Dragon
This might be the worst this game has been
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>>174511856
Looks like this art would be fitting for a spell
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"First, a warning shot!"
*kills unica*
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>>174509336
>1st panel
Luna: Will you be my friend? ("We should go on an adventure" in Eng dub)
Rowen: What was that!?
>2nd panel
Rowen: You mean you want to be friends so we can play doctor or play in the pool together!?
Luna: Nooo...
Rowen: Not to mention, playing house and let me be the kid, and carrying you on my shoulder while letting me feel up a little girl's crotch with the back of my head?
Luna: ...
>Panel 3
Rowen: Feels like I have a wife and a kid waiting for me... but it's probably my imagination!
Rowen: Take my dragonslaying strike~! ("Hear the dragon's roar" in English dub)
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>>174512692
thank you, Anon
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>Zombie Party and Salamander's now deal 2
>Prince's Fanfare now has Necromancy [4]
>Sybil is now a 2/4
Please implement, Cygames.
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>>174512791
>2/4
seems understatted. and no i don't play dragon
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>>174512534
It's warm up shot not warning.
Also the life is too cruel for bread munching unicorns, he was doing her a favor.
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>>174512831
its not that understated if he played as early as turn 3.

Or after a grimnir.
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>>174512791
Thank god you don't work at cygames.
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>>174512692
>Luna: Will you be my friend? ("We should go on an adventure" in Eng dub)
Well that's some bad localization. The English dub doesn't indicate she's about to murder you.
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>>174512901
>sybil on turn 3
Literally impossible.
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Discard dragon is the only honest dragon deck.
As long as it contains no Grimmir.
Then its cancer.
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>>174512901
Sybil is garbage if you play her before turn 5. Did you even read the card?
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>>174512969
whoops

thought he was talking about rahab
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>>174512759
how did this slut maid manage to work for the princess
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>>174512942
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>>174512791
Better would be:
>Prince now has Necromancy (1): give random allied minion "last word: summon 1/1 skeleton", repeat for all minions
>Zell: enhance (4) evolve: give your allied minion storm
>Sybil doesn't heal
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>>174512974
The fuck is that follower
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>>174513167
That sounds reasonable
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>>174513226
pucewyrm
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>>174513167
zell should just be 3pp like laura
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>>174513420
dragon can ramp
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>>174513307
pussywy..? Post the card.
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>>174511790
Satan is a standard card
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>>174513473
4/5 at the end of turn discard card, gain +2/+2
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>>174513473
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>>174513473
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>>174513167
Zell should be 3/3 when evo. I think the 2 cost was in line of Ouro costing 8.
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>>174511045
I'm still buying Tempest packs, I need a lot of shit still.
The double legend per class really fucked me over since I still need a total of 7+ legos.
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>>174512942
Neither does the Japanese one, you need context from her background for it to fit properly.
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>Implying cygames will ever nerf a legendary
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How do you balance Zell without making him useless? I'm sure no one would play him if he just gives Rush or is 3pp or more. But he's also fucking retarded as is.
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>>174513597
evo stats don't matter, what matters is that's too easy to pull him, so if Dragon wants to Ouro+Zell they have to use Cavalier or Roost
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>>174513754
Make him cost 3pp so hes on par with Laura.
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>>174513754
Make him target dragon followers only.
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>>174513560
>>174513584
>>174513592
Lewd
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>>174513473
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>>174513012
Princess has good taste.
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>>174513012
She's a strong girl who can take the princess' sword.
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>>174513909
That's a lot of period and nail.
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>>174512974
post dick
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>>174514063
What about now?
>>
can I get a concede please
10696
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>>174514171
Looks like it's growing stronger
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>>174513664
But even with the context the English doesn't make sense.
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>>174514242
thank you luna
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45483
Come and give this HUUUUGE fucking homo a concede pls.
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Goddamn blood is so fun to play in unrakned
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>>174514559
Thanks, elf slut!
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>>174514524
>Tales from T2
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>>174514653
Time of my life playing kys.
But I could just as easily switch to pure aggro and switch those results around in ranked.
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>play sneks
>concede
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To all swordfags

come out of unranked and play ladder you shits

alberting meme decks in the face doesn't make you smart

come face my eachtar and see what happens
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>>174514391
Of course it does. I take you haven't played her story line, but she invites another character for an adventure, tries to kill them and gets pissed that she is unable to.
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>>174515263
*teleports behind you*
IKUZO
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Really
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I need a concede please

88600
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>>174515598
150 from win, -70 lose, i don't see a problem here.
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>>174515696
Thanks mr skelltal
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>>174515263
>Play shadow.
>Complain about other unga decks.
>Even when those unga decks are actually slower than shadow.
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>>174514685
That is a VERY cute elf
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>Reaper + Thane
>Eachtar + Nepnep
I already have one Thane but Nep is unusable in t2
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I've teched beyond recognition. Just please give me a deck where Mary gets to shine.
>she'll never have 5/1 stats so that she can be Baphomet'd
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>>174516152
I run Mary in a kinda similar deck with Belphegor, Baphomet and Temptress. Dropping several Temptress into a Mary combo is usually too much for them to deal with. But I don't play it in ranked.
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How to fix dragon.
Make Sibyl.
3pp 2/3.
Put a dragomancer rites on the field from your deck. If you already got a dragomancer rites on the field heal 3 hp at the end of your turn instead.
There. now dragon cant ramp like mad and discard is saved.
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>>174516582
why don't you fix yourself first
nobody fucking cares, stop posting that shit
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Need a concede please.
94616
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>>174516953
Thanks, Fighter-san.
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About to dump 80 buckaroos on this shiznit
3x Sword (White Paladins, Aurelias, Otomeme, got 10k vials for the gawains)
2x Rune (Need the 2x Merlins for dorothy)
3x Forest or 3x Bloodcraft precons
haven't decided yet
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>>174505772
How do I mod this into my game?
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>>174517274
>2x Rune (Need the 2x Merlins for dorothy)
You will regret this. Merlin isn't played in a Daria deck and DShift is a bad deck right now.
>>
>tfw cucking opposite Luna with 3 Khavys in T2
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>>174517485
Any suggestions anon?
>>
I have 3 Elderwood wolfs and Imperial Dragons
Are those dingus worth anything?
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>>174517274
You can get 3x of all of them for that much, just saying. and about 40 packs with 50 crystal deals.
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>>174517791
So a single first purchase of all decks and then daily crystal deals would be your recomendation?

I'm currently running frog meme and shadow aggro + midrange, so i don't exactly need the shadowcraft precon
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>>174517274
Get Forest, Soccermom is core in every forest deck. Can't say the same for Vampire Queen.
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>>174517891
No, I'm saying that for that amount of money you could get 3x precons of EVERY craft plus 40 or so packs of your choice doing daily deals, provided you buy crystals in the correct place.
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>>174517767
wolfbolt is played, usually 2x only though.
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>>174517960
Correct place being?
I had always assumed it was via steam murrica
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17141
I am in need of a concede.
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>>174518008
Discord. There's someone that sells like 15k crystals for 60 USD or something along those lines there.
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>needed 10 minutes for 4 games and all 3 missions
All too easy
Feels good not having to play anymore for the day
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>>174518067
Thanks nepnep!
>>
>play shadowverse for fun
>can't have fun

remove midrange shadow
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>>174518069
>coaxing anon to be a discordcuck for money
You monster
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>>174518230
but midrange shadow is fun
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cucked.dshift
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If you play Shadow just stop posting please.
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>>174518069
>discord link not in pastebin
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Why does 5 gold even exist? Getting 2 wins is already so rare
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>>174518269
>>174518008
>>174518468
Just respecting people's money. Not many times you get offered 5 times as much as you usually get for an amount of money.
This is was back when I bought it from the guy myself, just so some autist doesn't scream fake.
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>opens pack
>no lego
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>>174518535
gonna need that discord invite
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>>174518368
>>174518230
Silly Rowen, begging won't help.
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>>174518734
>implying dragoncucks are the only ones who hate playing against shadowniggers
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>>174518830
So what do you play, Rune?
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>>174518884
blood
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>>174515263
Good luck, I'm behind 7000 wards.
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>>174518689
>>174518468
Dig the archives.
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Need a concede svgfriends

61921
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>>174519037
>summon roland
>eachtar's zombies deal exactly 4 dmg each
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>>174519014
Stop trying kill yourself, for starter.
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>>174519070
Got it thanks senpai
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>>174519083
Thanks lunaguy
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Reminder that Eris is 17.
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how the fuck do you counter dragon
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>>174519295
go fast
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>>174515263
>shadownigger pretending he's not ten times worse than swordfags
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>>174519295
kys
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>>174519295
Just outdamage his heal bro
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>>174519295
just otk him bro
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>>174519295
Pepesword, roach
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>>174519295
By playing dragon.
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>>174519545
>bahamut
>lighting blast
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>>174518535
Can you spot me the name of the seller?
>>
concede please.

99012.
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>>174519295
Hope to god it doesn't have ouroboros and zell in hand.
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>>174517647
>Excellent tier (more than 3 usable expensive cards)
Shadow (Cerb/Howl/DBreath/Foul, Aggro/Mid Shadow starter)
Forest (AElf/Roach/Tia for any deck, Liza/Cynthia Tempo Forest)
Blood (Queen/Rev/RDevil/Bond/Temptress, CBlood starter)

>Good tier (3 usable expensive cards)
Sword (Aurelia/Frontguard/Alwida, CSword starter)
Rune (Levi/DShift/Merlin, DShift starter)

Awful tier (less than 3 usable expensive cards or considered bad)
Haven (Garuda/Moon/Themis, Storm Haven starter)
Dragon (Forte/Genesis, Storm Ramp starter)

Some of those prebuilts are for archetypes that are considered bad right now in the meta, but the cards themselves can be played in other archetypes. CSword/CBlood/Tempo Forest are unplayable right now for example (at Master rank).

In my opinion, Sword prebuilt belongs to the Awful tier right now. Aurelia isn't even good enough to stop the new aggressive decks so the prebuilt is only good for Alwida and Frontguard. Storm Haven is an okay deck in the meta and the prebuilt is a good investment if you want to play this deck, only buy it once if you want all the silvers on top of 1 copy of Garuda/Moon.
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>>174519839
A N Y O N E.
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>>174519965
thanks based soh
>>
my dailies wouldn't take so long if people didn't take their whole fucking turn to make the most obvious plays
>turn 3
>dragonfag is """""""thinking""""""""
>plays grimnir
oh man that must've taken all his brain power, nevermind the fact that he did this for every turn while just playing obvious shit on curve
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>>174519925
Thank you for the information.
Here's hoping crystal seller is around.

Haven looks interesting to play but after 6 resets pre ToG, i kinda just stuck with cheap to make vial wise which was shadowcraft at the time.
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>>174519295
Just aggro blood bro
Just kys blood bro
Just aggro shadow bro
Just roach/azazel OTK bro
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>>174520021
>rune 1st turn
>takes half an hour
>passes
>>
>Grimnir in every deck, from aggro to midrange to control
DELETE this card asap, it's way more retarded than Ancient Elf
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>>174520136
He was carefully searching for his Insight. Please be considerate.
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>>174519808
Geoff or something along those lines. Bug a guy named DYLVG if he is still there, he shilled him all the time. Check discord pinned messages on the main channel, you will end up finding it
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>>174520136
and it just happened again, the fucker had 8pp while I had 4 and took his entire turn just to play ouroboros

all those vials can't craft them a brain I guess
>>
Wtf is this secret crystal black market shit? How is it cheaper
>>
>shadow vs shadow comes down to which orthus' effect goes on the wrong target
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>>174502659

>Winning easily against an opponent
>Being dragon, he drops 10pp Grimnir on my turn 7
>Does it again next turn
>Then the turn after that plays Genesis Dragon
>GG OUT PLAYED
>Lost with him at 4Hp, but since I don't have lots of storm, I lost

It's fucking retarded and makes me really mad.
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>>174519585
>lets him alive at turn 6
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>>174520898
I actually rather get grimnired than get forted or zell ourod
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>>174520946
>rahab
>grimnir
>sybil
nice meme faggot
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MARCH TILL THE END OF ENDS
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LunaRowen doujin got translated, happy days!
https://exhentai.org/g/1053502/6e2bc7498b/
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>>174521508
>tfw I have to deal with midrange shadow even in Take Two
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fuck ablertcraft desu senpai
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>>174521871
>fuck non-cancer decks~ t. shadowpedo
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>>174521871
Discard Pedocraft desu senpai
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>>174521989
>sword
>not cancer

Know your place swordbab. Who do you think is going to be t1 after nerfs?
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>>174522135
Blood
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>>174522135
probably forest tbqhwyf
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Why so dead?
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if they buff shit cards instead of nerf shadow and dragon?
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>>174522135
>Who do you think is going to be t1 after nerfs?
The classes that received better golds and legendaries than sword, so pretty much everything else.
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>>174522498
Probably this.
Elf Queen, Erin and Lily are annoying as fuck.
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>>174522543
Not happening. They made Dark Jeanne instead of buffing new Jeanne and have never buffed any card.
Also, buffing other cards to the state Shadow currently is would turn this into a powercreep shitfest. A game where everything is overpowered is balanced (since nothing would be overpowered, then), but not fun.
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>>174522758
why do you think that dark jeanner is powrcreep? they are literally oposite legos
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>>174522135
still shadow probably
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>>174522758
>new Jeanne
*old Jeanne

>>174522917
I never said Dark Jeanne is powercreep.
She is, unlike Jeanne, playable though.
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>>174522975
Shadow without catacomb is kys blood tier
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>>174523038
i know this won't happen but they could atl east buff the silver/gold/bronze card like cannon or some dirt things.
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>>174523070
kys blood is good though
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>>174522975
a 2pp increase on catacomb would be enough to push them out of t1, since they wouldn't be able to build a board early enough to counter the dragon rampage
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>>174523070
KYS Blood is a solid tier 2 deck. What is your point? If Shadow wasn't a thing, I risk saying KYS Blood could very well be tier 1 considering how well it does against Dragon.
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What if, there are no nerfs at all until the next expac. How would you feel?
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>>174523146
>>174523246
That's my point. Without catacomb shadow is strong but not autowin against everything strong.
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>>174523246
You don't risk much, KYS blood is underrated right now but it'll definitely be a very relevant deck in the post-nerf meta. T2 at the very least, if not T1.
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>>174522751
WolfBolt OTK hybrid is broken as fuck right now and only kept in check by having an horrid win rate against Shadow.
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>>174523294
Some decks got nerfed for less than what midshadow is capable of. If they don't nerf it, the game will go to shit, plain and simple. The new expansion will kill the game regardless of what cards they print. If they print overpowered bullshit to dethrone midshadow, it'll be completely shit to play. If they don't print overpowered bullshit, midshadow will rule for another 3 months.

They will nerf Shadow, it isn't even hard to nerf. Dragon is a little more problematic to nerf, but at least it has some counters, unlike midshadow.
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>BTFO'd dragon
>he disconnects
>after timer ends I'm stuck here
what do?
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>enemy plays three yes T H R E E dimension shits in a row

HOW IS THIS FAIR YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE RUNE KEK
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Are skeleton and zombie decks viable?
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>>174523624
ok
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>>174523624
Dude, DShift is almost meme tier. Let him have some fun.
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>>174523664
Midrange Shadow is pretty viable
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>>174523590
Your exaggerating.
Pre nerf Dorothy and roach were stomping everything on turn 7 exactly like midshadow is now.
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>>174523664
they are the best decks of the game
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>>174523818
If midshadow stomps everything how come it can't kill dragoncucks before they reach 10pp, which by the way happens while shadow is still at 5 or 6 pp

lightning blasts + bahamuts + heal spam = goodbye luna
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>>174523801
The faggot can go play with the AI and have his "fun".
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>>174523664
Literally tier 0.
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>>174523246
The thing is that KYS blood does poorly against forest too (which would become stronger after the shadow nerf), but forest isn't nearly as bad of a matchup for kys blood as aggro shadow is.
If shadow goes first then you need to just draw/airjammer every goddamn ward and drain in your deck.
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>>174523872
This is the general consensus on shadow right now.
Matches against dragon are his to lose, not yours to win because an early ramp dragon will most likely rape you.
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>>174523872
ehh dragon have 45% of WR against shadow
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>>174523872
>>174523981
You people realize Shadow's winrate against Dragon is >50%, right?
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>Quit arena to top off my 5 extra gold
>40 gold
This is bullshit
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>nerf to catacomb: can't put skeletons inside of your skeletons
>can't put more than one skeleton into a minion
yay or nay?
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>>174523963
Fairly sure kys beats forest with that insane curve
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>>174523818
This, everyone in the thread said Daria and "Mid" Sword were too OP and would still be T1 in ToG, and then reality set in.
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>>174524039
maybe cause of all the noob dragons
a real dragon will ravage luna's little anus
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>>174524040
i did this with 2 wins to get the 5 gold
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>>174523818
Those decks were less dominant than midshadow, and they got nerfed. What's your point?
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>>174524104
That's what I did and I got 40
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>>174524054
Not enough, unless you are nerfing other Shadow cards as well.
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>>174524116
Can't you read? My point is that they WEREN'T less dominant but exactly the same. Do you need a reminder about a 30% rune play rate early RoB?
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>>174524054
One catacomb is enough to seal the deal.
The real nerf is Catacomb at 4PP.
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>>174524201
>Do you need a reminder about a 30% rune play rate early RoB?
>30% rune play rate
Daria had 23% play rate. Daria wasn't able to have obscene winrates against all the classes.
See https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0073

Roach OTK was less played and was more powerful than Daria but less powerful than Midshadow, but had counters.

Those decks got nerfed.
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>>174524520
Wew there are a lot of versions of shadow too.
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Every fucking forest I fight has may and sylvan justice in their hand.
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doesn't matter if take two or ranked. sword always has albert on turn 9. fuck
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>>174524056
>have to keep taunts up every turn starting from 6 to guarantee that you won't be kebab'd
>will almost definitely lose heavy value/momentum to Aerins, jungle alberts, and soccer moms on account of nothing in the deck having more than 4 damage (aside from meme dealer)
Nah, it's a bad match for the blood fucker.
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>>174524642
And every dragon has 2 ouros with zell
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Concede pls 32895
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>Israfil x3, more if they use Saha
>Salamander x3
>Bahamut x3
>Lightning Blast x at least 1
Can anyone other than midshadow which is a different issue compete with this absurd amount of board clear?
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>>174524826
Just play stuff with more than 2 health lmao
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>>174524571
You mean all the catacomb version :^)
At least, Daria and D.Shift are different deck
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>>174524698
Forest dies at turn 6 smart ass
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>>174518069
That makes no sense at all. How could someone other than Cygames add 15k crystals to your account?
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>>174524989
You mean levi+piercing rune pushing rune?
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>>174524245
>The real nerf is Catacomb at 4PP.
you're too gentle senpai
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NERF WHEN
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>>174521649
That doujin makes too much sense in this meta.
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>>174524826
Sword can storm you to death
Forest can OTK
Rune can OTK
Haven has invincible Aegis
Blood rapes dragon faster than it can get to 10pp
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>>174524826
Nope. Dragon had decent board clear since RoB and that's why it was good against Daria.
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>>174525230
>nerfing balanced legos
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>mfw Hearthstone is balanced now
>mfw even Duelyst managed to fix its retarded cards
>mfw Shadowverse is the worst balanced card game out there

What's your excuse now, shadowcunts?
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>>174524520
>Daria wasn't able to have obscene winrates against all the classes.

This is literally week 2 and 3 weeks of RoB.
>b-but it's only 55%, not 60%
The crafts that shadow has 60% winrate against right now lose to pretty much anything anyway and have the same loss rate against dragon. Face dragon has the same oppressive winrates as mid shadow but it's easier to focus on shadow because "hurrr dragon loses to elf", as in the shitty ramp version does.
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>>174525354
I'm omly care about cute girl anyway.
Good luck with your western shit
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>>174525230
>nerfing legos

>>174525263
>Eachtar
>balanced
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>>174525354
>Duelyst
>managing to fix anything
>can't even fix their god-awful art
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>>174525196
If RoB taught us anything, it's that 1PP can make all the difference between a broken deck and a balanced deck. 4PP catacomb conflicts with Orthrus or Reaper + X 2-drop, and you can't play Reaper + Cata on turn 5. It's a huge nerf and certainly not a gentle one, but it won't make the card unplayable, just like the Piercing Rune nerf. Sounds good to me.
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>>174525247
>Sword can storm you to death
only if dragon bricks.

it's not possible to storm enough with a turn 4 rahab and turn 5 sibyl. you have to have the storm to keep them low and the staying power once they hit 10pp to keep some pressure on
>aegis
3 turns away from the usual point dragon hits 10pp, turn 6. and even then aegis does nothing to stop something like bahamut.
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>>174525031
"Maybe", if forest goes second (otherwise, aerin comes out after your turn 5).
And it only has one soccer mom on t3.
That doesn't get buffed with more than +1/+1
and it doesn't have shit like will of the forest, justice, or an elf child may combo.
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>>174525542
but i liked to combo catabom.
they should nerf another thing
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>>174525406
>4-6/7 below 55%
>has a bad match up
Now compare it to Mid Shadow.
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>>174525354
Are you a girl or trap? I've been looking for a qt to play card games with.
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you literally just need to make catacomb not affect himself
that's it
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>>174525502
What's the matter anon, don't like strong a womyn with a fist sized lips?
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>get to open 5 packs today because of dailies, login, T2 and rank up (AA3)
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I wonder how it feels like to be fririn for the past 3 weeks.
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>>174525670
those things are fake you know.
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>>174525542
at 5pp it would conflict with none other than cerberus, but that's a pretty good reasoning for the 4pp nerf
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>>174525670
>pedoniggers will defend this
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>>174525730
autism
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>>174525569
Whoa, so if x happens than y can't happen. Too bad x doesn't always happen.
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>>174525736
dude's probably the happiest man alive right now
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>>174525406
My point is simple. Daria and OTK Roach were less powerful than Midshadow and got nerfed. Midshadow will get the nerf bat as well. You can nitpick at winrates or playrates as much as you want, that's the only point I'm making. Dragon will probably get nerfed too, Zell shouldn't grant Storm to non-dragon cards.
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>>174525730
same here. comfy metais the best meta
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>>174525721
LMAO
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>>174525406
>The crafts that shadow has 60% winrate against right now lose to pretty much anything anyway and have the same loss rate against dragon
Except... that's not true? >>174525670
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>get 4 wins as haven
oh, nice
a daily that'll take over 2 hours
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>>174525730
I'm happy enough to open a pack a day, good job anon!
>>
Need a concede please
43950
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>waa waaa midrange shadow is invincible
>play that shit
>lose to dragons using dragonclaw pendant twice

So much crying for this.
>>
Are the rates in standard packs lower or something? I opened 20 of them and nothing. Meanwhile 1 TotG pack and I get 2 legendaries
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>>174525935
Thank you!!!
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>>174525670
Now compare this to Zell Dragon.
Everything is so powercreeped now that the top decks win by a huge amount because everything else got absolute shit compared to them.
I wouldn't be surprised to see next expansions winrates reach the 80%

Also keep in mind that at least some of those winrates are false because of false reporting. Cygames should just start recording official data and make it available for everyone.
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What craft do I play if I'm a girl in real life?
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They really should make bahamut not destroy amulets.
Fucker is so no fun allowed.
Also fuck them for always drawing dragon scyters to kill my Pucewyrms.
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>>174525721
someone post the fixed version. The one without retarded lips.
I unironically liked duelyst, but the devs fucked the game by letting the meta stale for too long. At least the changes will help, but I'm pretty sure the game is already dead.
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>>174526032
standard has a much larger pool so yeah. although i'm not sure exactly how different it is.
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>>174526032
You wasted your luck on ToG.
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>>174525904
>using the shit greedy ramp as an example

That's why Dragon was so low in RoB too, because idiots just couldn't let go of their Dorothy """counter""".
see real dragon winrate >>174526060
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>>174525721
What's with tumblr and that meme shaved sized desu?
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>>174526078
sword if you're a lesbian
dragon (as forte) if you're straight for the big black dragoon cock
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>>174526060
>>174526202
Storm Ramp Dragon's winrate is inflated, retards.
This has been said multiple times already. You can only trust Dragon's class winrate.
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>>174526032
I suspected this after spending some of my leftover gold on it once I had acquired all the new cards and bought a 5000 crystal bundle just for kicks a week after ToG release. Out of those 50 packs, all I got were some golds and 1 legendary so yeah I think they tinkered with it. Have been buying DE for meme flutes and third olivia instead now.
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>>174525852
There are plenty other ways, dragoncuck. There's a reason dragon has a winrate of 54% against sword, the third highest, and haven is the second highest at 58%. Guess what's first? the dead husk that is rune.

Oh, but no. they're fake, because you know best. Dragon is totally balanced.
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How is that difficult though.
If you see Oroboros it's proper ramp storm.
if you see Saha it's the shit ramp deck, even if she runs Zell too.
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Would this give me enough vials to make a Dragon deck?
The only leggos I have is one Forte and 2 Bahamuts.
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>>174526032
Other way around for me
Got 3 legos in last 30 standard packs and no lego for 40 ToG packs now
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New thread
>>174526583
>>174526583
>>174526583
>>174526583
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>>174526510
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?????????
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>>174526510
>vialing Albert x3
STOP RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
YOU'RE GONNA REGRET THIS
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>>174526096
There's a mod for it. I stopped playing since before the latest expansion tho, they have the same retarded balance strategy as Cygames: release some ridiculous OP bullshit, let it destroy the meta, then nerf it 1-2 months later.
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>>174526510
nigga what are you doing?
keep all of those except maybe alexander
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>>174526510
>vialing for a deck that will likely get nerfed
are you retarded
>>
>>174526510
Do it. Then come back here crying once sword is T1 again so we can laugh at you.
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>>174526510
>albert x3
what the shit you doing nigger

He is used in
LITTERALLY
EVERY
SWORD
DECK

It will cost way more to get him back than the vials you get.
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>>174526510
Don't do that wtf is wrong with you man
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>>174526510
Almost, you need about 70k vials.
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>>174526502
Ouroboros is played in Saha Ramp as well.
Also, the problem is that when Ramp dies to Aggro or Blood (the vast majority of its losses) you don't get to see their high cost cards, so you can't tell if it's Storm or not. When that happens, people report a Ramp Dragon loss, what inflates Storm's winrate, since they have to manage to get to ramp up for the opponent to know they are Storm.
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>>174523805
What does midrange mean?
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>>174526510
Don't listen to those fags. They'll always tell you to not vial legos. Just do it and build your fucking deck.
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>>174526964
On simple terms, it's a deck that cointains elements of aggro and control.
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>>174526032
I get 1 legendary from every standard, but I get nothing from 100 ToG packs, seriously I only have like 3 legendaries after 100 packs
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>>174526964
A deck that can control against aggressive decks, and aggro against slow decks. Midrange is more durable than aggro and generally has the biggest threats in the midgame (t4-t8).
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>>174526510
>2 animated saber
Did you craft those rolands and gawains? If you opened at least 50% of them you are chosen by the royal family.
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>Come to bed, anon.
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