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>English P5 DLC schedule: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-dlc-scheduled-announced-english-release/
>Next major event announced for August 2nd in Sumaru City: http://personacentral.com/large-scale-persona-live-event-announced-august-2-2017/
>New Persona games to be announced 2017: http://personacentral.com/atlus-to-announce-several-games-in-2017-includes-the-persona-series/
>New Atlus studio "Studio 0" to create new RPG named Project Re Fantasy: http://personacentral.com/atlus-project-re-fantasy-concept-video-site-update/
>Persona 20th Anniversary radio CD announced: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-radio-cd-detailed/

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S
GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona Image Collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
http://pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE
MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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Anal with Makoto!
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>Anne is sweaty!
>Anne is buxom!
>Anne is beautiful!
>Anne is wet!
>Anne is cute!
>Anne is flexible!
>Anne is an angel!
>Anne is lewd!
>Anne is sad!
>Anne is silly!
>Anne is for kisses!
>Anne is stylish!
>Anne is for sexual!
>Anne is awesome!
>Anne is sultry!
>Anne is pure!
>Anne is amused!
>Anne is quality!
>Anne is Lovers!
>Anne is canon!
>Anne is an apricot!
>Anne is an actress!
>Anne is a model!
>Anne is Santa Claus!
>Anne is Anne, not Ann!
>Anne is best girl!
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>Anne is sweaty!
>Anne is buxom!
>Anne is beautiful!
>Anne is wet!
>Anne is cute!
>Anne is flexible!
>Anne is an angel!
>Anne is lewd!
>Anne is sad!
>Anne is silly!
>Anne is for kisses!
>Anne is stylish!
>Anne is for sexual!
>Anne is awesome!
>Anne is sultry!
>Anne is pure!
>Anne is amused!
>Anne is quality!
>Anne is Lovers!
>Anne is canon!
>Anne is an apricot!
>Anne is an actress!
>Anne is a model!
>Anne is Santa Claus!
>Anne is Anne, not Ann!
>Anne is best girl!
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Best boy
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>the ann copypasta is now being posted at least twice per thread
at least it's not goroposting
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I need art of Futaba headpats. Anyone have anything?
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whoa guys just driving by to suggest the notion of taking ann's sweet nice sweaty toes after a long day of modeling and licking them clean to make her feel better hahaha and then watching as she takers her clothes off and slowly pisses onto her toes as you clean that off too and then she shoves ur nice face into her armpits and you smell them until you take a nice nap from being so tired ahahahah just sharing my thoughts kamoshida out
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Ann is for boys, makoto for men
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>>174459446
kek
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>>174459510
*Anne
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>>174459510
So this is why Ryuji likes her.
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Please turn shoebill into a persona, she'll do anything to be in.
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>>174459185
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>>174459510
>im 10 hours into the game but already made up my mind about muh waifu because im absolute human garbage
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Miyuki Sawashiro should have voiced Makoto
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>>174459294
I love the way this artist draws hair but she has such a bad case of sameface going on
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Is there art of Narukami Baton Passing to P5-kun?
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>>174459446
>aspiring police commissioner makoto nijima caught in scandalous polyamorous relationship with filthy criminal man and eight other women
>all prospects in life ruined

>>174459475
elizabeth's armpits are the only ones worth anything in the series
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>>174459630
What is she from, actually?
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>>174457950
According to Soejima's comments in the official design works, Robin Hood doesn't actually seem to be a random Persona Goro picked up so much as just a second one he gained somehow. His design very specifically draws from Goro's own image of a hero, incorporates a logo like the kind Goro has on his attache case, and is supposed to give a sort of "look at me as I perform a good deed!" kind of feeling/impression (rather than that of someone who acts purely for society's sake).

Futaba's observation is in line with that too, since she notes that his two Personas seem to represent his lies (Robin Hood) and resentment (Loki) respectively.

>>174458901
Robin Hood's design is what we see, and there's no reason to assume the concealment/outfit-changing ability works on another Persona (whereas we actually see it in effect for Goro - note how his real outfit briefly flickers when he's losing his temper during his tantrum).

And again, Soejima's own comments make it clear Robin Hood's design ties to Goro's personality the way any other Persona also ties to their summoner's personality.

>>174458954
I wouldn't call him self-proclaimed when plenty of other people consider him one. It's his job, not something he calls himself.

There's plenty of examples of his reasoning/inference skill in the game - for starters, pointing out that Joker's group and the PT have a significant amount of things in common with the PT based on the profiling work he's done by then, or a good chunk of his actions in the casino arc (the party wouldn't even have made it to the treasure if it hadn't been for him figuring out a way to counter Sae's cheating from extremely early on).
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>>174445282

I want to romance her in P5Crimson
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>>174459701
Kemono friends. She has like 5 minutes of screen time and is still best girl. Kinda like haru.
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>>174459475
This is a good post, thank you for making it
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>>174459653
How old would you guess the average nip pixiv user is?
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>>174459713
>>I wouldn't call him self-proclaimed when plenty of other people consider him one.

I could go around telling people I'm a doctor and convince people I'm a doctor but that doesn't make me a doctor
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>>174459809
drive-by kamoshida is the only good meme
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>>174459743
I amsurprised all the tsundere fans in japan didn't ask for it already
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>>174459475
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Does the game give you time to prepare for NG+ after you complete Shido's Palace?
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Do you have to do the stupid like missions in boss fights (aside from the one against Futaba's mom and the Holy Grail) to beat the boss?

Or can I just brute force the fight against Kamoshida and Kaneshiro?

>>174459475

do you post these every day
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>>174459510
How many men?
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>>174459428
No, it's just...
Let's take that whole Christmas Cake thing as an example. "A woman is like a Christmas Cake, nobody wants it after the 25th."
That is a concept so completely and absolutely alien to me and anyone around me that I cannot accept that into my own set of values.
All the women around me in college are about that age, a bunch of my female cousins are that age and none of them are viewed as "too old" by society. The concept of marrying that young is just utterly alien here. And if Japanese games talk about like that as if it were self-explanatory, I just have to turn my brain off and pretend they didn't just say something infinitely dumb and backwards.

It isn't as though I can't relate to Eastern stories, it's just concepts like this that I am neither able nor willing to relate to.
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>>174459645
Sawashiro is going to be busy voicing femc
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I found so stupid that you cant date boys in Persona
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>the four archangels are the penultimate bosses
>no Metatron

Metatron could have been a super boss or something. Then fix the actual Metatron by removing his two weaknesses.
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>I love you, my trickster
>my
>caroline's abuse was just the possessiveness attendants feel manifesting
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>>174459713
Im not trying to be mean here but do you not get tired of talking about Goro all the time, you put a lot of work into these posts like every thread
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>>174459713
Robin Hood is a little fucked too. I feel like it represents Goro feeling like he's stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. The rich being literally everyone else in the world and the poor being himself, though.

Also it's a humanoid robot based off a gentleman thief that fits the theme of a main crew persona, that is eventually superseded by a Trickster God, similar to the Second Awakening of every other party member or Arsene to Satanael. I feel like it's his for sure.
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>>174459992
Sawashiro is busy voicing fucking everyone in everything. Man, she's busy.
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>Joker can keep Makoto's and Haru's Tights in his inventory to sniff at any moment
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>>174459967
I get what you mean on the one hand. On the other that's more an anime/game trope, there are women in Japan who can and do get married past 25.
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>>174459894
The game isn't over after Shido's Palace. There are still two more dungeons left for you.
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>>174459992
Tbh she'd be a good fit. I can't think of a better female counterpart to Fukuyama than her.
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http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1492592448490.webm

Why does this turn me on?
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>>174459907
You can brute force them.

>>174459894
>Does the game give you time to prepare for NG+ after you complete Shido's Palace?

Why are you assuming Shido's Palace is the last dungeon?

And no, there's not much time to prepare after the last dungeon. Look up what does and doesn't carry over and prepare accordingly whenever you can.
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>>174459827
What? I have no idea
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>>174459967
You realize no one in japan actually thinks like that right?
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>>174459713
Can you get a trip like TLDRfag so I can just filter you? Because mentally filtering your autistic ramblings defending your shitty light yagami OC donut steel every time I come to /pg/ is getting tiring
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http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1492590701603.webm

Lavenza is so boring
Do you think Lavenza would move in with Joker and live a quiet domestic life with him where she has to use a small step ladder to help in the kitchen?
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>>174460030
just like nocturne, metatron will be in the rerelease.
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>>174460143
>COCK

they knew
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>>174460115
Of course there are.

But let's take Persona 5. The SIU chief tells Sae she should hurry up and find a husband already. Kawakami is considered "too old" for the whole Maid thing. Chihaya considers herself and "older woman". All three of them aren't even thirty and the game treats them as if they're spinsters already.

>>174460107
Those and Boss' game time undies.
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>>174460273
>>174460143
>>174460016

Stop being a nigger
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Goro's true intentions
http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1492581782470.webm
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>>174459870
Your comparison would be valid if he only went around telling people he's a detective. Goro has actual detective work under his belt, not just self-made claims, and that includes more than just the cases that got him to fame.

>>174460071
Robin Hood isn't supposed to be robot and that's not what he represents. If anything, he's a manifestation of the act he puts up combined with his desire for recognition/acknowledgment, going by Soejima's comments.

>>174459894
12/22 is the last day you can do anything with no restrictions, so yes, you get a little more time after Shidou Palace (even if you complete it late).
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>>174459491
it's just how they localized it in prior games, thought it's weird since they had him as Wu Kong since Nocturne
>>174460226
>I don't like actual good content
summon Orpheus
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>>174459894
Depends on what you mean by "time". After Shido's Palace is over you can't really do any SL-related stuff anymore, but you'll be able to grind to your heart's content and fuse a bunch of shit.
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>>174459967
Persona 5 bucks the cake thing by letting small boy Joker get into the pants of anyone older from his teacher to the local shady doctor though, plus a journalist and a fortune teller. And none of them really bitch about their age, in the case of Kawakami it's more of a social status thing and her being concerned about how pretty she is at one point.

I think the only nod to the concept is the SIU guy giving Sae shit, telling her to look for a husband. And that guy's a jackass. The game is very supportive of cakes.
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>>174459814
Good
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>>174460438
Because in the other games he was called Son Gokku in Japanese, which is literally Sun Wukong. This time it's Seiten Taisei in Japanese.
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>>174460226
>getting triggered when someone puts actual thought and sources into their posts
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>even as a weeb playing a dating sim i'll never be as autistic as that one guy who spends 3 hours a day maxing out the post character limit replying to half the thread at once
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>>174460406
Are you fucking retarded? Why are you posting links to fucking 4chan?
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>>174460203
I also thought those weird Christian families in the US that force their children to marry at 18 were a movie trope until I found out that shit actually exists...
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>kawakami will never put on your school uniform

why live
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Did this asshat deserve to get his heart stolen or was he not so much evil as obnoxious
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roast me, /pg/
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>>174459967
Much like how lolicons are a minority in Japan, so too are guys who refuse to marry women older than 25. They're just something we see in a lot of anime and games so we take it as commonplace, when it's really not.

Now, one aspect of Japanese culture that IS real and that's an example of conservative fogies refusing to change their minds is the idea that as soon as a woman marries, her career is over as OF COURSE she is going to be focused on her family instead, so married women often end up getting pay docks or getting fired.
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>>174460047
At the end of the world he'll belong to her.

>>174460414
Robin Hood's not meant to be a robot, and I don't think there's point in reading into that aspect, it's just the aesthetic. Look at its mecha face.

Maybe I'm just conflating it with Orpheus and Izanagi being so mechanical.
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>>174460603
I dont want to download the webm
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>>174460629
He never got his heart stolen though?
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>>174460629
He was just obnoxious. I think he didn't really care about Haru at all and I'm pretty sure he had mistresses so once Haru rejected him he was probably just like whatever. He was probably just your typical snobby rich kid but aside from being a jerk I don't know if he was truly evil.
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>>174460629
>Roastie confirmed
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>174460628
>being such a manlet a girl can fit in your uniform

>>174460629
He's either a complete scumbag who treats people like property or a complete scumbag who was trying to get her to break it off to get a huge payday
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>>174460747
Then just put the link into the file field?
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>>174460629
I don't think he has any strong desires, he's just a spoiled brat
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>>174460276
Optional Fiend bosses in Mementos and a True Demon Ending would so infinitely improve P5's story.

>>174460603
I'm assuming because different boards have different maximum file sizes and /vg/ doesn't allow webm's that big, but what do I know.
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>>174459992
This design is getting popular
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>>174460629
I think his evil is pretty superficial but it wouldn't shock me at all if he had a palace.

>That part where he calls Haru fat

What an asshole.
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>>174460824
I would have happily shit on his life, I hope he's a mementos target if they ever redo this game.
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>>174460804
It wouldn't really do anything for the story, and I can't see a true demon end being anything but garbage. It'd be a fuck ton of fun though.
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Haru bought you a $60 cup of coffee and you still turned her down. Why? All she wants is a nice quiet life in a remote town.
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>"Mishima are you an NPC?"
>Say that's savage in my head
>"Savage." immediately pops up as a response

Too bad it doesn't give points.
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>>174460889
>using the dub
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>>174460775
>or a complete scumbag who was trying to get her to break it off to get a huge payday
He was making that contract shit up though, he really did want to marry her and take control of her money.
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>>174460804
>I'm assuming because different boards have different maximum file sizes and /vg/ doesn't allow webm's that big
>http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1492581782470.webm
>4cdn.org/vg/
>/vg/

Are you shitting me right now?
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Uhhhh the dub is shit fuck off
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>>174460780
HOW THE HELL CAN I DO IT, if it is not downloaded in my pc?
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>finish the game
>feel that post game depression

wew lad life has meaning again
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>>174460898
>parents probably think he's a sweet kid and are proud of him for his intelligence
>probably has some genuine bonds in his life, just being an asshole with the cute girl he thinks he's legally entitled to fuck, could probably turn his life around the way Mishima did with his own will
>Joker jumps in and ruins his life and makes him commit social suicide and disgraces his entire family legacy to boot
it would feel so good
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>>174460047
Does Lavenza actually say that? Never saw it in my playthrough and I had her confidant maxed
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>>174461030
I hope you are not serious right now.
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>>174461086
did you fight caroline and justine?
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>>174461086
Guessing it's connected to the NG+ fight, I never saw it on my first run either.
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Stop reposting the same shit all the time.
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not enough yusuke
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>>174460975
I called him the protagonist because he really is the whiny protagonist of a seasonal color wars or a derivative evangelion clone
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>>174460496
>that gif
Shareblock was a mistake
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>>174460504
>I think the only nod to the concept is the SIU guy giving Sae shit, telling her to look for a husband. And that guy's a jackass. The game is very supportive of cakes.
Pretty much. Persona 5 is very critical of a lot of the stupid bullshit that is still in the minds of older Japanese people. And it's not the least bit subtle about it.
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What the FUCK is that weird ass move makoto does with her hand in the background after a battle finishes?
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Are the Phantom Thieves JUST
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>>174461104
Yes i am
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>>174461142
No, since it was my first run. Is it a NG+ only piece of dialogue that's tied to their fight?
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>>174460629
did he have his heart stolen? thought he just was a boss like Wakaba, and since Haru Sr. got pwned he faded into a Mishima-like existence
>>174460808
that expression is so disturbing, I legit said WTF aloud when I saw it first
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>No hawaii date with Ann
She's so noncanon it hurts
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>>174461226
yea
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>>174461215
What hand thing, homie?
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>>174459185
So I just rejected my first girl in Persona 5.
Decided to stay friends with Ann and leave her for another playthrough.

Is every girl I reject gonna stab me in the heart and make me feel bad?

I wanted to go either for Makoto or Sensei (or maybe Futaba, still waiting on the Medjed timer so don't know her that much) but holy shit that "let's be friends friends" with Ann was hard. She even runs off all sad crying and depressed. Fuck.
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>>174461281
But there is though
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>>174461219
Okay then what exactly do you not understand about
>Then just put the link into the file field?
Do you need a fucking picture guide on how to copy paste something into a field? Is this really what it comes down to?
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>>174461215
Flicking the blood or dirt or whatever off her knuckles
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>>174461230
>that expression is so disturbing

She's too old to be moe
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>>174461086
if you go back into the VR right at the end (not the final day where it's locked)

I kinda like the attendant being the closest thing to a "canon" romance where they're possessive and infatuated with any fool arcana that finishes their journey

>>174461314
Only Haru's is really bad
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>>174461314
I dunno but keep posting but anime girls
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>>174461230
>that expression is so disturbing, I legit said WTF aloud when I saw it first
Joker's or Kawakami's? Joker's is a meme and Kawakami's attempt at the cutsey maid look is legitimately creepy. The maid thing does not suit her. Which is half the joke of course but still.
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>>174461334
She's my highest Confidant right now, yet she didn't text me. Why? I'm not dating anyone either
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>>174461178
Be the change you want to see in the world
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>>174461314
>Is every girl I reject gonna stab me in the heart and make me feel bad?
Haru
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>>174461314
Ann takes it well though. Can't wait until you see Haru.
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>>174461343
>file field
I dont understand what you mean with this?
If I click there it asks me to choose an image from my pc
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I'm on December 24th on NG+ and I haven't beaten Caroline and Justine yet. Am I fucked, or will they let me fight them so long as I don't progress to the point where they're Lavenza?

Also, holy fuck NG+ makes Confidants easy. All I've got left are the last ranks for Fool and Magician and I'll have 100% Confidant completion.
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>>174461429
You have to get hers to rank 9 for it
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>>174460923
Haru bought you a sixty dollar cup of ELEPHANT FECES
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>playing Japanese dub for ng+
>send calling card
>joker says "SHO TAIMU"
do they know?
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>>174461281
afaik the only way not to get an invite from Ann is to choose friendship in her Rank 9 event before you go to Hawaii
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>>174461314
Almost
Older women take it better generally, or don't propose at all and you're the one that has to initiate
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>>174461487
Then paste the fucking link where it says "File Name:"
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>>174461506
Try checking regular Mementos. I know that once you head to the Depths they only heal you. If all you're getting is healing then you're fucked.
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>>174461203
This has got to be a metaphor for something but damn if I know what.
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does Sojiro know that MC is calling up a maid service
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>>174461564
>for ng+
Retard.
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>>174461580
are you trolling me?
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>>174461595
Pretty sure they start healing you as soon as you enter Mementos on 12/24.
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>>174461567
Nope, didn't happen for me. She was the highest ranked social link I had by that point but I wasn't dating her yet, and my only choices for Hawaii were Makoto or Ryuji.
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>>174461540
>those 3 replies when she brings that up
>all 3 are great
>all 3 bring points
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>>174461564
>Japanese dub for NG+
>not just playing it in Japanese all the way through your first file
>playing English dub at all

Fuck off.
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>>174461639
sojiro doesn't want to know anything about the debauched fuck cave his shop turns into after hours
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>>174461691
No but you are obviously trolling me right now. Go fuck yourself, I'm done with a computer illiterate like you.
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>>174461217
I hate Akechi so YES?!
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This might be the most apt line in the whole game.
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>>174461217
Are the Phantom Thieves INNOCENT
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I want to pull funny pranks on haru like destroying her stupid garden on the rooftop or setting her sweater on fire while she's wearing it!
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>>174461217
QUE ES FANTOM THIEF?
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>>174461775
Ryuji's mom looks a lot like Anne, huh.
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>>174461715
she just really wants joker to say things and interact with her, regardless of the meaning of the noises wurbling out his mouth

it's delicious
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>>174461380
>>174461448
>>174461457
>>174461572
Well that doesn't sound fun. Is Futaba also bad? She seems like it will be bad. What about Makoto?

>>174461392
Sure.
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>>174461861
But I am home
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>>174461779
I cannot upload something that it is not on my pc
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>>174461606
Futaba = Mustards
Yusuke = Sony
Lobster = Persona 5
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>>174461886
>-DELETED BY THE ADMIN-
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>>174461314
Makoto is best girl hands down
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>>174461861
the only difference between me and mishima is that mishima goes outside
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>>174461939
Makoto's fine. Futaba is a bit sad but not too bad.
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Is the Hiroko armor the best feasible armor in the game? I'm looking online, and it looks like there's some armor sets you can get from the dirty mementos gear, but its only at best 12 more defense, and the Hiroko armor says it reduces magic damage as well.
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>>174461917
Actually her SLink has the most dialogue options that bring points regardless of what you pick
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>>174460637
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>>174461217
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>>174461939
No, Futaba is actually pretty much fine actually. The people who say it's bad just wanted to bang their sister
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>>174461639
Sojiro covers for you if you have multiple lovers on Valentine's, so I think after a certain point he just expects you to gigolo it up.

I do like how the harem for P5 feels nicer than the harem for P4 does. "Natural" doesn't seem totally right, but it's close.
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>>174461917
Haru is the only girl in the game that does this, by the way, furthering the theory that she has legitimate feelings for Joker, since just talking to her at all gets you points.
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>>174462089
This image is too comfy
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>>174460054
Of course I do, but I'd rather deal with getting annoyed writing clarifications a lot than having misinformation stick around, and he still tends to get the most of it by far (the only other ones who seem to get misinformation similarly often are Kawakami and Makoto, and people tend to beat me to the punch for clarifying regarding those two most of the time), though I've spoken up about other characters too. Most of the time I'm just repeating info from the game/supplementary materials, so it's not actually much effort.

>>174460054
Fair point. I'd say the "face" looks more like a mask (you can see straps connecting to it on the back of Robin Hood's head), but I see what you mean.

>>174461230
He didn't have his heart stolen (and the boss version of him in Okumura Palace is just Okumura's cognitive version of him). He's never really dealt with, outside of the guy in charge of Okumura Foods after Okumura's death agreeing to try to break off his engagement with Haru if you do her events.
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>NG+
>Casino
>Mfw I just realized that as soon as the Ruse cruise was confirmed to have set sail Futaba took every opportunity she could to be an asshole to Goro
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>>174461861
No, that would be the whole "kek" discussion, especially since I once read a pasta about a guy having to hang out with his kek-spouting r9k cousin and fucking said cousin's mom.
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Why is the SMT artstyle so shit compared to the persona artstyle?
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>>174462143
i think it's less a matter of the feelings being more legitimate and more that the crush is way more intense
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You can fucking hear Haru's heart break when you friend zone her jesus christ
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>>174461939
The little Gremlin is fucking trash, she's annoying and the localization team went out of their way to put in le gamer and meferences XDXDX. Go with Makoto she's better in everyway
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>>174462132
Futaba's cool but I wouldn't romance her
Just doesn't feel right
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when is last time you can use velvet room? is it obvious when you're about to trigger last boss?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgHbPvNStEU
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Who is the most well-adjusted and morally correct character in the game and why is it Foreign Barker?
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How do you feel about this kid
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>>174462282
like right after you fight michael, it's pretty obvious.
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>>174462282
Yes. There's a door to the Velvet Room right before the blatantly obvious gauntlet of enemies that leads to the final boss.
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>>174461217
won't help me, so fuck them
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>>174462319
>>174462238
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>>174459294
Agreed.
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>>174462319
Worst Hanged Man
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>no option to choose words carefully once I hit judgment 10

game sucks
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>>174461217
Goro is easily the most JUST out of any character in Persona, really.
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>>174462137
Here are some of your potential harem members:
>A literal psychic who can tell you're having trouble with multiple women if you're hareming even before you meet her
>Someone who has your phone bugged for audio and video and probably knows everything you're doing with everything else
>An investigative journalist
>A group of close friends who despite secrecy, cannot possibly realistically have kept everything from each other for months on end
Not sure if it's natural, but I don't think Sojiro did most of the work in making them accept that shit come Valentine's. They all seem pretty resolved to fight to be Joker's one and only when you talk to them on the last day. I feel like if Joker can kill almost-God, he could make this work. Like half a percent chance.
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>>174462263
Makoto is boring and her s-link is trash.
She doesn't deserve to be waifued
>>
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>>174462282
Is your current save point called "Qliphoth World"? No? Then you still have lots of time.
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>>174459713
>or a good chunk of his actions in the casino arc (the party wouldn't even have made it to the treasure if it hadn't been for him figuring out a way to counter Sae's cheating from extremely early on).
Is it possible he actually knew to do this in advance by visiting the Palace before by himself? I'm just asking as a theory, because it seems like Goro's plan would require the thieves to make it all the way to the end. Maybe I'm overthinking it.
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>>174462529
You literally die if you don't choose your words carefully though
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>>174462263

Her memespouting wasn't as bad as I feared. Only the kek discussion was cringy. The rest was just goofy.

Makoto is objectively better though.
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>>174462238
Kaneko worked on Persona too though

>>174462574
Cute!
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>>174462574
Damn, that's fucking adorable.
I'm so close to dicking Kawakami, but I feel like I should maybe wait till I know Haru better to decide.
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>>174462554
>If you talk to the psychic after meeting Haru for the first time she flat out confirms she fell in love with you at first sight.
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>>174462571
t.Cakefag
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>>174462132
But Joker's sister is back in HOMETOWN
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>>174462571
I dunno mang, she gained an infinite amount of brownie points with me for going against all the anime cliches and slapping the bitch out of that one slut at the end.
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>when mishima confesses his love to you and the thieves
i love you too you little bitchboy
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I'm on 10/25

How much of this game is left?

I was told it ends in December but I don't believe that, I have a social link that hasn't even started yet.
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>>174462604
If he had, I feel like Shadow Sae would likely have mentioned it and/or prepared countermeasures to his methods by the time he came back with the Thieves.
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>>174462796
Game is over on 12/24
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>>174462796

You have just under two more months to go.
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>>174462796
Last playable day (for confidants) is Dec 22

If you have a social link that hasn't started at this point it's your own fault
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>>174462756
Shot really? I need to check this out.

>>174462604
It relied on the spare card futaba made, I don't think he could've planned it out in advance
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>>174462796
Last dungeon and final boss are on 12/24
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>>174462756
Seriously?
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>>174462319
Great link
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>finished Tower confidant day before the election

Fuck, that was close.
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>>174462319
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>>174462756
why haru like glasses criminal boy so much
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>>174462756
Does she comment on romances and stuff? That's pretty cool desu I'll have to try that out
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>>174462756
Wait, what first time? Hawaii or as the beauty thief?
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>>174462881
>>174462915
Up until that point, when you walk up and talk to Chihaya, she will occasionally mention "troubles with women."
After your meeting with Haru, that line is extended to something like "I saw before that you were going to have troubles with women. But now, the Empress arcana..."
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>>174462878
Dumbass, Empress confidant isn't even available until 10/30.
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>>174462574
now post her item use titty jiggle onegai
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>>174462881
>It relied on the spare card futaba made, I don't think he could've planned it out in advance
Good point. I just figured if he was trying to trick everyone he might have plotted the route beforehand but I suppose they just had to leave some things to chance.
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>>174462881
>>174462915
Eh, Chihaya basically tells you that she sees the Empress in your future, which means love and a stable relationship. Considering Haru is the Empress S-Link...
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>>174462756
I could never make heads or tails from what she says. She said something about death or that I had trouble with women even though I only had one romance
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>>174463040
Just her item use animation?
Give me a minute.
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>persona 5 animation comes out
>haru becomes canon romance
>harupocalypse begins
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>>174462571
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>>174463035
>go with this one and you'll be happy
aww
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>>174462878
>It's my own fault I haven't started a social link that isn't able to be started yet
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>>174462220
Like when?
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>>174459185
How many points do you need from rank 4 to rank 5 on some stats?

http://www.ggez.space/parameters/

Lists for example 79 for rank 5 charm but is it total 79 points or do you need to get 79 points from rank 4 to rank 5?

I really hope that it's 79 total points across all ranks.
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>>174463165
I'm a Futabafag but I would gladly concede to Haru. For essentially doing fuck-all after she gets introduced, she could probably use the break.
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>>174463165
cute!
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>>174463223
It's cumulative, you don't need to get another 79 points to go from 4 to 5.
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>>174463165
haru and joker get like 500% more attractive in their thief costumes

it stands to reason haru will be the legal wife
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so is P5 final mix gonna have a shiho social link
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>>174463354
>confirmed used goods in the MC age range
risky but powerful
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>>174463312
Oh thank fucking god. I'd have no chance at doing anything at this point if that was not cumulative.
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Things that will change in the Persona 5 Anime:

1. Haru and Makoto will be introduced earlier and side characters in the school so it won't stand out as much when they randomly start appearing when they become important

2. Morgana will say way more puns

3. Kamoshida will get incredibly toned down

4. Goro will be made out to be more tragic and likable

5. Ryuji will have the most "quality" scenes
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>>174463284
[erected]
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>>174463165
Sorry Senpai but Makoto is basically confirmed canon, and for good reason
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>>174462574
This is visual representation of who I considered best girl as I played through the game/
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>>174463165
Given how shafted Haru is as a character, I'm fine with her getting the Joker cock.

Ann and Futaba don't work and the game goes against the former, while Makoto is nothing special even with being the most pushed heroine of the game.
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>>174463434
>and likable

Doubt

>>174463494
>romance only dialogue being canon

hahahahaha
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>>174463434

I think they did a pretty good job of introducing Makoto to the player before bringing her in as a party member. She got several separate cutscenes preparing the player for her.

Haru on the other hand...
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>>174463494
I would eat her donuts every day.
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>>174463494
joker is only dependable because he's stupidly lucky

someday that luck will run out
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>>174463494
But canon pairing is Joker x Pixie. She's the first girl Joker takes with him.
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>>174463434
Calling bullshit on 4. It isn't as though the P4 anime went out of its way to make Adachi more likeable.

I fear you're spot on with 3. though.
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>>174463529
It really is fucking close between those two.
The others just don't compete.
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Does it depress anyone in that comfy road trip ending, Goro is completely forgotten and not even mentioned as a loss to the team, cementing that he was never their friend and alone in life?
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>Yoshida cheering you on during the final battle
>smile and almost tear up

Why is he so GOOD
>>
>ruined my first experience of Sae's and Shido's palaces by grinding flu season Reaper to 99
>but got to have fun planning out powerful Personas with optimal skill sets much sooner
Eh, worth.
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>>174463638
Nope. He was never a true nakama of the PT. Why would he be there? He was right, nobody truly cared about him so he's forgotten as such.
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>Persona 5 is their first Persona/SMT game
>Persona 5 is their first Persona/SMT that they played on release month
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>Work hard for it, Inmate!
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>>174463579
Joker is the exact opposite of lucky
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>>174463638
No, fuck him

The only people who bring him up are "ironic" shitposters
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>>174463579
He's lucky because he's Axiom agent, that ended after he obtained The World
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>>174463613
>he hasn't seen Futaba's Rank 9
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>>174463638
no
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>>174463553
Oh come on get over it, shes gonna be canon it's already over. Better luck next game lol
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>>174462604
Don't think so. Shadow Sae didn't seem to recognize him (unlike Shadow Madarame and Shadow Kaneshiro; it's possible he could've hidden himself using Loki, but still), he's unable to get past the entrance of the high rate floor just like the rest of the party until they get Sae to recognize them as people allowed into the real-life courtroom, and like >>174462881 pointed out, the method for getting around Sae's cheating required relying on the spare card Futaba made (and discarded for the name she assigned it being too obvious only because Ryuji commented on it).
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>>174463638
>feeling bad about a crazy murderous asshole responsible for tons of suffering, death, and misfortune who literally whines about not being speshul despite being a supergenius with supernatural powers

Uh, no?
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>>174463720

Thanks to the return of demon negotiation this one is a better first Persona/SMT game than 3 or 4 were.
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I'd drink coffee made with coffee beans that haru ate and then pooped out again.
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>>174463638
So fucking dumbass that even his cognitive self wanted to kill him.
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How can she sit flat footed like that

She's supposed to be an unfit hikki
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When can I complete Mementos? I'm done with Shido's palace but there's still a door locked.
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>>174463638
>depress
Not at all, in fact after his pathetic and well deserved demise he's only mentioned like once or twice offhandedly, which is fucking hilarious. Never have there been a character in persona forgotten quicker than groo
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>>174463785
Makotofags truly are the most delusional
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>>174463638
No. I'm glad that he never even appears at the very end even when you're remembering all your social links for final battle. Even Shinjiro managed that much, Goro gets shafted as he should
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>>174463785
>she's canon because i took the non canon romance route

First persona game?
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>>174463638
Yeah. Not even just that, but he barely gets mentioned after his death. I was disappointed.
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>>174463831
Her character is all over the place.
She's slovenly one moment and hyperactive the next.
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>>174463831
It's only been 2 years.
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>>174463831
Reddit the Girl
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>>174463739
Yu got The World and he still seems to be doing just fine
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>>174463494
Makoto is strange. She either has incredible game or is autistic enough to actually say all the right lines.

"I need a study partner for love, who can I ask? Hmm..."

"Can you show me where people have fun? I really don't know. Oh yes let it be just the two of us"

"Arcade? Oh will you teach me how to play?"

"I need a fake boyfriend for a while... who can I ask? Hmmm... Oh you want to do it? Good I already said you would and we are going on a double date"

It's fucking strange coming from someone that has no friends, never had a boyfriend or even a male friend. This level of game is off the charts.
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>>174463831
Her father was russian.
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>>174463831
I think on August 24th there's a scene of her sitting at the bar looking like that hunched over acne guy on his mac in that GOLEM GET YE GONE image. She just has awful posture.
>>174463840
It unlocks on the 24th
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>>174463494
>if you were to marry, marry someone dependable like joker
>... but not actually joker, I'm sending him to prison
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>>174463803
Exactly this

Do people forget that futaba wouldn't even have a palace if not for Goro? All she ever wanted in life was to have her mom around and he killed her
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>>174460824
>>That part where he calls Haru fat
That shit pissed me off. I wanted to smack him and tell him how he just insulted somebody that spends her downtime gardening, swinging around an axe, and shooting demons with a grenade launcher. Bitch probably has a half-decent set of abs under those fluffy clothes she wears.

>>174463434
>Haru and Makoto
>Randomly start appearing when they become important
Makoto stalks you on Central Street as early as Kamoshida's change of heart, and Haru shows up like 3 times before she even has a portrait. Both of them get a decent amount of screentime before they're directly relevant to anything.

Did we play the same game?
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>>174463850
I'd have thought at this point arguments about main girls and most pushed or canon ends would be a thing of the past. But year after year we still have the same stupid debate over the obvious.
>>
>>174463975
everyone in this game has bad posture because they need to pose stylishly and distinctively at all times regardless of how the camera is framing them
>>
TELL ME SOMEONE HAVE THE ANN INFOWAR QUOTE
9/3
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>>174463638
Nope, not at all, because he never was their ally and if he'd spent his life doing something productive instead of trying to pursue his twisted daddy issues, he wouldn't have had to die at all.

>>174463657
Because that's what happens when the Persona team hunkers down and actually tries to make an interesting and realistic social link.

>>174463694
Precisely. If there's no challenge left, at least enjoy being overpowered.
Say, is it like P3 where, on Lv99 you immediately jump to 999 HP and SP?
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Reminder that Kawakami put a ring on it


She's canon
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How come Goro has to die while Shido survives and doesn't even suffer that horribly because of all his remaining political connections and the fall of the Metaverse?
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>>174462220
she was? Other than the phone thing I don't remember.
>>
Why the fuck do waifufags fight over who another guy gets to fuck? Wouldn't you want your waifu not to win so she doesn't get impregnated by another man?
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>>174463957
She's autistic, she's basically bait for people who've never had a date, she acts vulnerable and in need of protecting which isn't her character at all outside of the slink
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>>174463803
He's not a supergenious though. He's literally a phoney who wouldn't be able to solve the case of the missing milk in a room full of cats
>>
>>174460824
>>174464016
Belittling women like that is emotional manipulation 101, it's no surprise someone like him would do it
>>
>>174463831
>He never saw Death Note.
I'm 85% sure that this is a reference to L.
>>
How do you put the dlc stickers on car Mona? I don't remember what the message said.
>>
>>174464117
She literally say she hopes Goro will self destruct on live TV
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>>174463494
makotofags are THIS desperate lmao
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What if Goro was a girl?
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Every ship is a canon ship if you believed hard enough
stop fighting anons
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>>174464016
I hope Haru's abs are under a nice layer of soft though

>>174464125
Joker is a nothing cipher character to self-insert into. Like not as much as P3 MC, but still
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>>174464113
Death was an escape and Shido has to live with the consequences of what he did so he can pay for it
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>>174464104
>Say, is it like P3 where, on Lv99 you immediately jump to 999 HP and SP?
Nope
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>>174463869
Groofags on suicide watch over the irrelevance of their husbando
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>>174463720
>>174463804

>Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker
>Persona 5
>SMT3: Nocturne

in that order. Everything else has to get in line.
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>>174462220
The best

If he had a website I hope she defaced it.
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>>174464221
the average cuck that complains about him would be fapping to him instead
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What party member Confidants require doing a Memento quest?
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>>174464221
I'd be really angry she was dead, consider her best girl, and would be screeching about not getting to fug her

>>174464306
Record Breaker really that much better than vanilla?
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>>174464221
Then he wouldn't be nearly as hated by the waifufags as he is now (if at all)

Would have a fuckton of cucks saying he is best girl
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>>174464353
Only Futaba
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>>174464221
>a stupid whore instead of a stupid faggot
oh wow
what a change
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>>174464297
Unfortunately Goro will be back in the spinoffs, in the most hamfisted manner I'd imagine
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>>174464221
Then she'd be a creepy yandere that stalks Joker out of a combination of love and hatred and jealousy and would try to kill the girls first but ultimately nothing in the story would be altered dramatically.
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I don't hate Goro.

But he did literally everything wrong.
You couldn't do it more wrong than Goro if you were trying.
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>>174464221
I'd be slightly less mad about not getting to kill her myself
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How the fuck do I catch the guardian?
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>>174464172
I just question her physical ability to do so
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>>174464417
I mean she would have been a stupid whore, but her small bits of affection to Joker and the ego-stroking appeal of being the only one able to "fix" her would have made her prime waifubait
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>>174463957
Another thing that pissed me off:
>School festival day.
>Makoto is trying to get information out of Akechi in front of all the students.
>She seems determined and strong willed. She bombards Akechi with a lot of sensitive questions.
>She doesn't lose her composture even though Akechi is about to reveal the PTs identities.
>But luckly Akechi gets interrupted by a phone call.

Then if you romance her:
>She asks you to hang out during the school festival.
>The Post-Festival MC aks her to step on up the stage.
>Gets asked about the PTs
>Starts blushing and getting nervous.
>About to lose her composture.
>You help her out by saying something random
>She gets even more nervous.

I mean, her personality during the main storyline and her social links is way different for some reason.
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How many managed to max all confidants on their first playthrough? I totally forgot about Haru until 12/14, after the 7th palace
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>>174464221
/pg/'s replacement for Makoto
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>music notes still pop up during Christmas dates

What is the point? They're already maxed.
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>>174463796
The bit about Akechi not being able to pass the courtroom wall made no sense to me. Even putting aside him being the traitor, did he never go to the trial for any of his cases, or were none of his cases ever cases that Sae prosecuted for? Even so, why would Sae's cognition think that he couldn't get in?

I mean, it's not like anything would've changed if he COULD get in on his own, but it still bugs me that they didn't even bother mentioning it.
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>>174464269
Bullshit. I buy that for Kamoshida, but Shido is explicitly shielded from the worst of it by his allies. Even after you break Mementos, considering how impressive Japanese jurisdiction is, the guy is probably free about two hot hours after being sentenced and will then proceed to run for office again.
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>>174464553
Futaba's furious full body, room spanning hyper self pleasure kept her in good hspae

>>174464636
Positive feedback to make you feel good
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>>174464587

She had time to prepare herself for talking to Goro. But the deal on stage with the Post-Festival MC was sudden and unexpected.
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>>174464221
She'd be best girl by virtue of being the only one to have a compelling personality. I mean I understand why people like Goro but that kind of male character has been done a million times before so I just find him kind of boring. It'd honestly be quite refreshing to see a girl character like him.
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https://exhentai.org/g/1052554/5bd21a7fd6/
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>>174464221
Potentially rewrite the character entirely if Joker can date her with the confrontation/boss fight being much, much more tragic if it's revealed she was in love with Joker but was just too fucked in the head to really approach him.

The story wouldn't change that much but if she had cute lots of cute events to make said romance possible then the tragedy of Goro death would be much more poignant.
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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>Milday
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Mishima disappeared from my game.

I did his Rank 8 confidant and he hasn't shown up on the map since. What gives?
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>>174464587
She has to act autistic and ~moe~ on her romantic events so the waifufags can have their fanservice
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>>174464363
imo the new storyline they added was exactly what DS2 needed. It was hard and fun and it used the story elements that were there much better than the original game and the new music tracks are amazing
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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>>174464693
And the fact that Goro already knew their identities was also unexpected, yet she seemed calm and collected
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>>174464646
It's fine Morgana can just sneak into his home and slice his throat open if not enough vigilante justice has been served

>>174464781
So it's more than just hot genderbend whatshisface
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>>174464762
You weren't fast enough, now he killed himself.
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>>174464587
Guess thats kinda the point, she opens up to you in her link. You get to see the side of her she can't afford to show due to her responsibility's and busy life
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>>174464715
always get baited by fujo links
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>Futaba's furious full body, room spanning hyper self pleasure kept her in good hspae
I need more details
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>>174464221
>be closet gorofag
>see this image
>end up liking female goro more
Fuck. Fuck. Why wasn't he a cute girl. He would've been ascension-tier. He's only a man because atlus wanted to fujobait, isn't he?
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>>174464646
Maybe you should stop being so cynical and put some trust in Sae
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>>174464715
>yaoi
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Anyone know which rooms have locked chests in the Futaba palace?
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>>174464587
I think her being scared of the dark when she faced yakuza head on was the most inconsistent thing about Makoto.

There's 'gap moe' and then just trying to make a character cute to be desirable.

Makoto's angry side as depicted in her awakening scene might as well not even exist after the fact. It literally never happens again.
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>>174464598
Didn't manage it and had no inclination whatsoever.
There are only two reasons to do it on your first playthrough:
1) You have weapons-grade autism
2) You're playing the hardest difficulty setting in P3P where you don't get any NG+ bonuses.

Then again, you probably have weapons-grade autism for trying the hardest difficulty setting of P3P, but...
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Never waifu the developers waifu
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Do the girls come to hang out with Joker like the boys do?

I mean like to watch a DVD, go to a Museum etc. like you do with Yusuke and Ryuji when they come to Leblanc?

Can you still hang out with the girls if you reject their romance attempt?
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>>174464524
Oh I just figured it out. You just have to take your time with it.
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>>174464842

They knew he was investigating them. Them knowing his identities was a surprise (and you can tell she is shocked even as she manages to hold it together).

The point is that the deal with Goro was an event she prepared for and probably practiced. She had all her questions down and was mentally ready for whatever she could think of. That's different than being randomly called onto a stage to answer off-the-cuff questions.
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>ywn explore the real life inspiration for leblanc

jdimsa
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Why do people complain about Makoto but not Futaba? Futaba is so much worse.

>People give Makoto shit for being hypercompetent
>Futaba is so competent she's basically singlehandedly carrying the party half the time after you get her in the story
>People give Makoto shit for being too perfect
>Futaba is so perfect her dungeon formed because she's just too compassionate and guilty
>Futaba is the most brilliant hacker of all time
>And beautiful
>And she gets a spaceship
>When she stops blocking her traumatic memories it turns out she remembers everything that happened 2 years ago during the most traumatic moment of her life
>Everyone is extremely protective and supportive of her

She's ridiculous.
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>>174464912
it would have made alright sense to have the gentleman thief hero opposed by a femme fatale love interest. they could have even given groo Josephine instead of Robin Hood if they wanted to get that on-the-nose with it

i think they were more enamored with flipping the script on the naoto detective prince thing and getting the BL audience though
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>>174465068

Mean to say "Him knowing their identities"
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>>174465048
>developers waifu
Is it Makoto or Futaba?
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>>174464553
I'm not exactly fit but I can also flatfoot slavsquat. It's not that hard.
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>>174465061
Futaba does. Don't know about the rest
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Do Futaba's lines carry over to NG+ or do you have to hear them all in one go?
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>>174465153
Tanaka
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>>174464717
Having her be in love with him would be retarded, they don't have enough interactions to make that believable. Just keep it the same with her feeling a mixture of envy/hatred and an actual desire for friendship.
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>>174463595
Yeah and first girl to get executed.
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>>174465093
looks like a place where you'd get your kidneys removed
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>>174463993
Shidou was the one who ordered him to kill Wakaba for refusing to shut down her cognitive research, though, as well as the one who used his connections to forge Wakaba's suicide note and make Futaba believe she was responsible for her death.

Futaba herself starts off hostile toward Goro, but after finding out about his situation, she's the only one to blatantly tell him it's fine to start over from wherever, and that she's been dwelling on the Medjed situation a lot and how that was an awful trap but without it, the current her wouldn't exist either, and later (during the pre-Shadow Shidou boss fight cutscene) makes it clear she blames Shidou for her mother's death and not Goro.

>>174464587
The school festival cutscene seems to go down the same way for every one of the party member options, regardless of how well it fits them. It gets a bit jarring in some cases, yeah.
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>>174465153
Makoto
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>>174464863
>So it's more than just hot genderbend whatshisface
Absolutely, though telling your teammates Miyako is just Yamato in drag never gets old.
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>>174465061
Futaba shows up once, but the girls basically only invite you to movies.

I think the harem route is canon, and like another anon said, it's likely they all know.
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>>174464912

You're right. If you kept Goro exactly the same in every way but made him a woman with a femme fatale badguy disguise she would be so much more likable.

What's the female equivalent of Goro?
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Are there any unique scenes in NG+ from having maxed social stats that would otherwise be impossible to have?
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>>174465196
Akechi has a bit of an obsession with Joker and hang out in Leblanc for a while, this could easily be spun as a crush if she were a girl.
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>>174465189
For some reason that made me laugh

>>174465230
I can't blame them, good taste
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>>174465101
>>Futaba is the most brilliant hacker of all time
Excuse me?
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>>174465101
Quite a few people were complaining about Futabas design from all the way back at PV04, saying she might be shitty NEET pandering, so maybe they got it all out their systems.
Meanwhile, almost nothing negative was said about Makoto pre-release.

Harufriends are the real winners.
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>>174465301
Dodging the chalk at the beginning of the game, but that's pretty much it. It's not like in P4 when you could tell Moroking to shove it.
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>>174465203
all of tokyo is like that though
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So I started playing persona 1 for the first time recently since I needed something to play while on a trip and I actually kind of love this game.

The high encounter rate is basically fucking padding the game out to be twice as long as it needs to be and the demon negotiations are a pain until you've experimented enough with them.

But I kind of like how this is clearly still SMT at its core. Some times the social simulation parts of persona while having the best stories make playing these games a bit daunting since you're always sitting there in the back of your mind thinking about your guts level and how you can't progress an s.link if you don't get it up asap and that you're running out of time to do all these other things and that it's already fucking august and you haven't even started some slinks because you forgot about them.

So it's a very nice change of pace.
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>>174465334
It's okay your IQ is too low to understand
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>>174465235
Is there any downside to going harem route?

I hear that it breaks their confidants or something in NG+?

Not too clear on that.
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>>174465153
Definitely Makoto. She's the only girl in the story who gets ship tease with Joker.

Futaba's interaction isn't really 'shippy', for instance nobody calls her Joker's girl.
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>>174465061
futaba comes by to play video games. the other girls don't (they'd presumably be embarrassed about hanging out alone in your room if you're not in a relationship) but they'll ask you to go to a movie or some other hangout in the city
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>Morgana running away in Mementos.
>"Guys we can't catch up guys we're never gonna corner that damn cat bus guys we need to figure out how to make up after Ryuji fucked it up again."
Makoto, I thought you were the tactician of the group. YOU HAVE A MOTORCYCLE FOR A PERSONA. EVEN THE EVOLVED FORM IS LITERALLY JUST THE BASE FORM WITH A HUMANOID TRANSFORMATION. IT FUNCTIONS. YOU CAN DRIVE YOUR PERSONA.

DRIVE AFTER THE DAMN CAT.

IT'S NG+ AND THIS SCENE STILL PISSES ME OFF.
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>>174465315
Right, but it shouldn't. It makes a lot more sense as it is instead of "secretly in love after having some brief conversations".
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>>174465315
was also super pushy about thinking they could learn so much from each other and that they could work together well after joker gave generic shitty answers on the variety show segment

dammit i don't even mind the rivalry thing, but don't force and frontload it so hard
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Post yfw Goro takes your fucking takoyaki without asking
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>>174465489
no it was just a meme

You get your ass kicked then you get to pick your true waifu
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>>174465326
This tbqh
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>>174465385

I complained all the time about Makoto's fucking hideous mask.
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>>174465516
Can you take your lover to your room though or is it only for Confidant rank ups?

>>174465609
So basically you just miss out on a normal valentines event, right?
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>>174465548
But then the plot couldn't happen.
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>>174461314
>P5 Crimson comes out
>Shiho is a new Confidant
>Reject her at the end of her event

I can't wait.
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>>174465101
>Futaba is so perfect her dungeon formed because she's just too compassionate and guilty
Wait, being suicidal over guilt from thinking that you killed your mother and having all the adults around you rubbing it in your face is "perfect?"
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>>174464109
Truly the bestest of waifus. No one else even comes close.
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>>174465607
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Does anyone in P5 have a similar problem?
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>>174465583
Hence why they should expand on the relationship a bit and allow you to take her on a date or something. Justice as it is now in P5 is a very weak confidant, a genderswap would need some tweaking.
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>>174465489
During Valentine's Day, you can invite one of your GFs to your room to play Famicom and make Infiltration Tools. If you have more than one GF, the one(s) you DIDN'T invite for Valentine's show up at Leblanc the next day and beat the shit out of you.

You don't lose out on anything (as far as I know, all of the chocolates do the same thing and the real present is the Christmas one anyway), and it doesn't break any Confidants. It's honestly better to harem it up because of the hysterical scene and Sojiro's Chocolate (which is only 10 SP but still funny as shit).
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>>174465489
>>174465609
other way around

you pick your true waifu on christmas to get the good item that boosts them next round, valentine's waifu gives you a unique SP restore but literally who cares, if you cheat Sojiro gives you a 10 SP restore, on the last day they all have lovey dovey crap to say to you
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>>174465548
Honestly that's the first thought that came to my mind, and I was expecting some kind of minigame (in b4 FF7 motorcycle)
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>>174465586
Everything about Goro's relationship with Joker is forced desu

Atlus truly won by doing the bare minimum of fujobait.

I mean even Yusuke gets more pleasant responses from Joker during his arc, like asking if he needs to be carried after his Awakening.

But you can go through the entire game and be a jackass to Goro, forget about his existence entirely yet still have a 'unbreakable bond'.
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>>174465607
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>>174465767
Alright, if they expanded on it then it might not be so bad, but I'd still prefer it not to be romantic just to avoid the cliche factor.
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>>174465847
Let's be honest, with Goro as a rival literally any interaction between those two would be fujobait so what's the point?
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>>174465883
I'd like it because it would make Goro final confrontation that much more emotionally charged, I'm a massive sucker for things like that.
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This game would be better if it didn't attempt and fail to make Goro a sympathetic character.

What a piece of shit
>>
Is it just me or

Does Yusuke get smart and smarter and less autistic as the game progresses?

His highest autism moment was 2 lobsters but from Harus recruitment on he's one of the most well spoken and normal characters of the PT

I thought I was going to hate him but he's easily my favorite
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>>174465489
I love that design so much.
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>>174465847
There are some point where you're only able to give amiable answers to him iirc but I agree they tried to hard to push the fated rivalry aspect without giving it much substance. Maybe that's a shortfall of having a silent protagonist though, I don't know.
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Why do people always go for one women? There is literally no drawback for going full harem.
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>>174465796
>>174465789
So there is really no downside?

I'm honestly surprised about that.

I might do it NG+ when I can spend some more time with them and not panic about my social stats.

Thank you anons.

Also is there a NG++ or can you only replay it with all your stuff once in NG+?
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By the 7th palace the game starts to drag. It's badly reflected on the mouse areas in the 7th palace as well, just repeated gimmick that is boring and obnoxious. The whole traitor in the group was obvious and could be seen a mile away, however the execution was great. The way Akechi was handled and how the group was suddenly "hey, fuck it, let's bring in a manipulator, traitor, and killer to the group, np" was awful.

Game is very good up until the 7th palace but then it takes a dive in gameplay, characters, and story. It's my first Persona game and I'd still rate it as one of the greater JRPG's but it's sad such a great game couldn't reach the whole way
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>>174466132
Harems only work if the girls are okay with it desu.
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>>174465847
>Goro enters the interrogation room.
>Goro kills the police officer
>MC: "This guy is about to kill me. I can feel a deep bond with him"
>Rank up.

I mean, I know that they tricked Goro and all but how can you become closer to someone that IS ABOUT TO FUCKING KILL YOU.
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>>174459185
Okay so I just encountered and left Mishima's shadow. What am I supposed to do now to continue his confidant?
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>>174466132
some people really, really like their vidya waifu or are legitimately roleplaying as a faithful character

>>174466148
if it satisfies you more to remain faithful and you know for sure who you want on both special dates, then sojiro's chocolate and the extra options don't matter
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>>174466132

some people have this thing called empathy anon.

I know it's hard to understand for autists
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>>174465763
Makoto
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>>174466013
He tends to be very level headed and pragmatic during the plot sections but lapses into autism everywhere else. It's a bit jarring honestly.
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>moloch learns nuclear amp
>he can't inherit nuclear spells

wtf?
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>>174466132
I did Makoto during NG since it's the canon romance.
Harem on NG+ for funsies.
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>>174466173
The only way they could get to Shido was to use Akechi. They knew he was just being used but not by whom.
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>>174466248
Ann, you mean. Makoto actually gets more empathetic for others as the game progresses.
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>>174466202
Just do whatever for a while. Mishima will text you when he's done being a shit.
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>>174466081
They should've made Justice Confidant like Adachi's in P4G. Random hanging out to expand Goro with it being timegated to match up with the plot progression.

It's annoying how much wasted potential Goro is, though it's not like he's exclusive to this. Rather he's just the most blatant example given how large his role is.
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>>174466305
>I did Makoto during NG since it's the canon romance.

Love this meme.
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>>174466240
i've got empathy, just one rocky scene in a set of otherwise pristine romances doesn't hurt that much
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>>174463657
>"If only I was 20 years younger...."
He was the definition of a good bro.

Also loved how all the social links fought the battle when you were in prison.
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>mfw I just realised YaldIgor has a tell when he's agitated
>Happens during the Strength link whenever the girls have brain problems, during the big interrogation choice, during his last visit before reveal and whenever you talk shit to him.

That's some pretty good atention to detail.
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>>174466190
That's not to mention that it's only the cognitive version of you and you somehow ranked up. Morgana mentions it but it still doesn't really make sense.
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>>174466132
I can't bear to see all those pd sluts with their identical chocolates next to Futaba and her unique gift. She doesn't deserve to be treated like that.
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>>174466013
He's still autistic during his social links.
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>>174466240
>empathy
>for women
kek
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>>174466397
That's not really how empathy works.
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>>174466013
his mementos banter is god tier

>makoto reminds every to stay hydrated
>yusuke: i have come well prepared, i have a plastic bottle filled with tap water
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>>174466503
Loving all the women equally is empathy.
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>>174466375
Yep, for sure. I feel like most of the game can't quite live up to what it's trying to do, but it's still enjoyable.
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>>174466239
Well you all fucked up my plans a bit as I thought cheating has some kind of bad outcome later on so I decided on one girl.

Still I can revert a save where I dumped Ann that was like 10 minutes of social gameplay and still go harem route.

So does the one you pick on christmas really want's to hang out with you after you cheat on them?

I always assumed she'd refuse. Isn't that imply that they are okay with cheating? Seems strange.
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>>174466483
i don't need double cat in my life

>>174466503
i understand, i feel bad because they feel bad, there's the empathy. then i ignore it because the reward outweighs the consequence and i know in advance there are no lasting repercussions
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>>174465763
Anne, she starts off as pretty decent and competent but then goes through the same issue
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>>174464640
It's possible that while he was involved in gathering evidence for cases that eventually made it to court, he wasn't brought in for the actual trials but just aided the police or the prosecutor on the case. It's been a while since I read up on it, but from what I remember, it's actually uncommon for private eyes (the type of detective he is) to be directly involved in trials in Japan, and I think there are even some legal hoops involved in using evidence gathered by them (IIRC because they have to verify that the evidence was gathered using legal means, as some methods employed for private eye work can be considered legally questionable, like shadowing someone).

It's one of these things that's less clear in translation, since the distinction between 探偵 (private eye-type detectives) and 刑事 (police detectives) is easily lost, not to mention that the two jobs aren't always as distinct in other countries.
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>>174466483
>Almost everyone buys boxes
>Kawakami's is heart shaped honmei choco that she wants to feed to you
>Futaba has a fun cat design
I'm assuming Haru's is homemade as well given the shape.
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>>174466638
>then i ignore it because the reward outweighs the consequence and i know in advance there are no lasting repercussions
/pg/
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>>174464756
Everytime she does that it seems like she's bald or something.
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>beat the game again
>have to say goodbye to all of the Confidants

I... don't want to say goodbye...

The only things left for me to do in the next playthrough are just random trophies like the video games and books trophy and the bullshit navigation line trophy which I know I will NOT have a fun time with. After that... I'll... I'll be done with this game. Have I just been rushing this game? I'm gonna feel empty again.
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>>174466739
A kawakami is fine too.
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>>174466636
they're not okay with it, not totally, i think they're just willfully ignorant or the laws of sitcom comedy or harem moege are in play and it's a nonissue

see >>174462554
i don't believe for a second all of them had no inkling of what was going on, there's probably just some serious eyes wide shut shit going on there
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>Moving through the stairs into Futaba's Palace
>Yusuke doing his autistic Naruto run up the stairs
Motherfucker you're not even in your thief outfit just climb the stairs normally.
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>>174466817
2 runs and you haven't gotten the navigation line trophy? How?
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>>174466610
The real problem imo is that the two major villains suck dick. Persona 4 wasn't enormously better but at least Adachi was entertaining.
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>>174466839
>A Kawakami is bestest
There, FTFY.
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What did she mean by this?
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>>174463638
Yes.
>all these people jumping on the goro hate bandwagon
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>>174466331
>>174466698
Why Ann?
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>>174466483
>emotions ranging from sad to angry to disappointed
>haru has no expression, she just looks through you
This is scary
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>>174463638
Nah.
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>>174466569
What's wrong with his answer?
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>>174466894
I honestly have no fucking clue

It really feels like a gamble. I never even got HRF in P4G despite having played through it three times and pouring over 250 hours into it. I'm convinced that you either get it randomly or you just DON'T and I hate it.
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About to go into NG+2, Have to grind money for the last persona fusions (after I find Hope Diamond), and do the fishing game.. Is there any real easy way to get the fishing done? When is the earliest I can access the pond?
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>>174466938
she's talking about selling her used panties online
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>>174466496
>women have emotions
>men don't
>can have empathy for non-emotional beings but not emotional ones
Eh?
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>Take Kawakami on a date at the ferris wheel
>She is sad and feels like she isn't worthy of being loved

How can you NOT want to protect that smile?
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>>174466995
Think about it, she's willing to sleep with a Teacher so her friend can start for a highschool volleyball team
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>>174467104
Her third and last date is the best.
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>>174466905
It also helps I didn't see Izanami coming at all in P4. The true ending is actually easy to miss entirely for one, and it being the gas station attendant would've never occurred to me.

Igor was suspicious to me the moment I found out he was the one who made the Metaverse app.
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>>174467047
Have you tried actually using every party member you have constantly? That's all I do and I got HRF and this one without trying on my first playthroughs.
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>>174467069
you'll have to basically go 3-4 times to the fishing pond and catch every small fish you can using the small bait, to grind enough points to buy a better rod (2k points) which carry over to new games.
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>>174459510
Well now I guess I'm staying a boy. At least I can be /ss/'d by best girl
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>>174467029
man idk maybe anon doesnt like reusing water bottles?????????
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>>174467158
ann's not so bright, super gay for shiho, and has a warped sense of priorities because she's in high school

i'm alright with her
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>>174466852
>have no money
>hello hot girl whom i want to see naked. I'm moving in with you, hope we'll have good time

This nigga
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>>174467272
Gay for Mika, you mean. She even compares her to the sexy villain she liked as a kid.
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>>174467029
Yusuke is a poorfag
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>>174467104
Her reply on the 2nd date if you tell her you want to be together forever.
HNNNNNNG.
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>>174466737
As much as I hate Akechi, I hope the kid got a ride on the Sae carousel before the carnival left town
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>mf every time Ryuji shouts "Captain Kidd!"

I realize they wanted to use a famous pirate but couldn't they find one whose name didn't sound like a fucking breakfast cereal mascot?
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>>174467272
and also being actively pressured by kamoshida

it's not a good scenario for her in general

>>174466852
i wanna hang out with yusuke
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>>174467215
I'll admit I dropped Morgana almost immediately. Next playthrough I'll try swapping out party members on the regular to see if that'll do, even if that means exposing my team to weaknesses. I'll have enough super powered Personas to make up for this though.

If I don't get it by the casino though I'm fucked right? Since Akechi leaves?
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How's my boy Thanatos? If I buy him, should I bother making Alice? I'm around level 48 on my first play through and I've had the Death confidant maxed for a while now
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>>174467361
Doesn't everyone refill water bottles though?
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>>174467435
Nah. I got it on Shido's ship. But seriously just use every party member in every dungeon at some point.
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>get to Futaba's palace
>expecting Pixels: The Movie: The Game
>it's muh obligatory pyramid level

MEH
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>>174466817
There's just not much to do in NG+ this time around. P3 and P4 had a fuckton of content left that you no way no how could get on the first playthrough, or even in two playthroughs. While P5 has a lot of content, the core of it is just finishing up the Confidants and the Compendium, both of which can be fairly easily done in a single NG+. After that it's just trophy leftover.
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>>174467389
>Akechi 'Daddy Issues' Goro
>wanting pussy at any given time
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>>174467402
his weeb VA just screams KIDDO

>>174467462
yeah you're gonna want that shit, i really like the door to hades skill

his itemization is garbage though, just high dodge on curse
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I can't stop listening to Life Will Change
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Genuine question, who is the gayest Persona character
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>>174467514
But that's better
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>>174467435
You can grind quotes in the final boss battle really well. Just keep Yaldi alive long enough to stick you with all his bullshit ailments. Futaba has two or three lines for each of them.
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>>174467635
ryoji spent ten years inside another boy
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>>174467635
Akihiko, no question
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What you name your Joker? If you used to the manga name, I pity you, because every precedent is against it being canon.

Mine is Haruhiko Kita
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>>174467635
you
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>>174467510
I'll be sure to do that then.

I can only really start this in September at the earliest since that's when Futaba will be in the party right?

>>174467554
That's true. All I did in this playthrough was just max out my Confidants (as max social stats helped out a lot), fought the twins, fought the Reaper (I didn't know about the exploit when I first played) and earn enough money to make the strongest Personas.

Next playthrough all I really have left is the navigation line trophy, the video game, book, and fishing trophies, and the vending machine trophy. I could have gotten all of them in this playthrough but I was dead set on doing the aforementioned stuff first.
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>>174467554

I dunno. I got to the point in P4 where I could pretty much 100% everything on one playthrough (except NG+ stuff like Margaret's dungeon).

This game has way more content than P4 did for sure (though I don't know about P4G). P3 too, except that it's easier to max all the Confidants than P3 was with social links.
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>>174467635
Yusuke. He's kinda strong, but mostly gay.
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>>174465763
Ryuji

>man this guy is a bro, is vulgar and he's funny and he has the protag's back.

to

>man this guy is a fucking moron who can't keep his fucking mouth shut and constantly jeopardizes everything the protagonists are fighting for
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>>174467635
Jun and Tatsuya, by virtue of actually being gay
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>>174467635
Yosuke Homomura. Literal gay option.

Or Jun from P2, I guess.
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>>174467731

Kiriyama Rei

Gotta go shogi boy to be with shogi queen
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>>174467731
this is gonna sound obnoxious but I named all my protagonists after brothers from The Brothers Karamazov. but there's not enough letters, so his name is Demitri Karmov. Though I really should have gone with a jap name for immersion.
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>>174467769
joker encourages ryuuji because there's never a "holy shit ryuuji stop talking" option
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>>174467741
Yeah, before that it's all fine. It's not that hard as long as you exploit all sorts of weaknesses andget the occasional status ailment.
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>>174467731
i name all my protags johnny danger bc danger-kun
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>>174467731
>every precedent is against it being canon
yeah it's not gonna be the canon name but neither is whatever you cooked up

why the pity
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what momentos bosses does the confuse trick on? i need mo money fo dem programs
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>>174459185
man i fucking hate the ending of Persona 5.
it's such a pity
the game was perfect until then. Also the final dungeon ost was so cool
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>>174467635
Jun? He actually rides Tatsuya dick.

Everyone else need not apply, but Movie Ryoji is pretty damn gay.
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>>174467836
even the actual traitor is less of a liability than ryuji
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Akechi is directly """"inspired"""" by Light Yagami.

You CANNOT refute this.
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>>174468036
Light was pretty smart though. Goro is a fucking idiot/
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>>174466638
My mistake. it's sociopathy, not autism.
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>>174467514
Well pyramids are what you get when you father was Nyarlothotep.
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>>174468036
Light was actually competent.
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>>174468036
You're literally retarted if you believe this
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>>174467802
Almost a gay option anyway.

Yosuke's the gayest straight guy ever.
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>>174468036
Light actually manages to btfo his initial rival. Goro doesn't even get that far. Goro is pathetic.
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>>174468036
Maybe L.
Kira was pretty smart contrary to Goro
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>>174467731
>No one else named him Kenpachi Ramasama
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>>174465763
Anne and Ryuji both have this problem for me. They're decent people and semi-realistic teenagers, but they're both so fucking stupid that it get grating how stupid they are. Anne especially got grating because her Confidant is so fucking stupid and inane that it's almost insulting although it helps that virtually every dialogue choice lets you bully her for saying some obvious shit. I legitimately wanted to punch her for saying "the trick to fake crying is to NOT CRY", and her romance option is probably the blandest and most half-assed in the game.
>My best friend is doing so well and I'm gonna be so strong
>We should make out
>You're right, Anon-kun! Let's make out.

Ryuji's just annoying with how much he risks the ability of the party to function, but his Confidant is actually pretty decent. He's still fucking stupid and the game's persistence at bullying him feels forced until around Shido's dungeon.
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>>174467731
I named him Darkwing Cuck.

Since I'm as immature as a fucking child I giggle every time somebody calls him Cuck or Cuck-kun or Cuck-san.
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>>174468260
Go home, Woolie.
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>>174468036
Teddie was voiced by L. You can't deny this.
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>>174467701
He goes both ways.
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>>174468036
>when he found his powers he used it for "good"
>motivations slowly turned more sinister overtime
>thought he was so smart and planned everything elaborately only to realize he wasn't and gets btfo

Hmmm
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>>174468440
Ryuji is Light so Ryuji > Teddie
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>mfw everyone who frees my hostages is named Phantom Thieves

WHERE IS YOUR ORIGINALITY YOU FUCKS
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WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIl3RcKJEM8
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>"Got em"

HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT WAS HYPE
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>>174468260
>not Hank Hill
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How the fuck does Joker get away with bringing that cat everywhere? Sure he stays in the bag, but he's always poking out of it and moving around. It's obvious there's a real cat in there.
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>>174464221
Fem Goro is cute! CUTE!!!
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>>174468587
and it's established when he talks it comes out as meows
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>>174468497
And both of them are dead. R.I.P. Ryuuji
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>>174468476
>when he found his powers he used it for "good"
Wrong. He used it cause Daddy would pat him on the head if he killed people for him.
>>motivations slowly turned more sinister overtime
They've always been the same since he became a Persona user
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>>174466847
Does the dialogue change on Christmas if you cheated or does everyone pretend the beating never happened and you didn't cheat?
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>>174467962

Because that's when I did in P4 and I was mildly let down when Souji Seta became Yu Narukami. I don't want anyone to have to go through that .
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>>174468528
ng+
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>>174468473
loli femc a cute
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>>174468587
It's anime.
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>>174468587
People believe he almost killed a guy. Better not mess with him.
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>>174466938
Either marriage, sex, or prostitution.
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>>174468525
I went with the default for the first playthrough, but then my brother pointed out that "Buncha Weebs" fit perfectly, so that's my permanent name for them now.
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>>174464226
This.

except Hifumi and Tae
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>>174468587
what really bothers me is when you can bring Morgana with you to work at the beef bowl restaurant. wtf, that can't be acceptable
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>>174468669
yu narukami is an infinitely better name than souji seta
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>>174468664
Valentines is after christmas
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>>174468664
christmas happens before valentines in the game, and the valentines event happens before the beating too. nothing changes but that extra scene
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Does anyone have the official OST now that it's on iTunes?

I just want an OST download with English labels on every song.
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>>174468615
But still dead.
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>anal vore scene
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>>174468525
the he-man cartoon was some shit.
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>>174468587
>real cat
>TIME TO BUTTON MASH!
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What did people think of the grand escape plan? I thought it was a pretty hype part
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>>174468785
yu narukami was perfect in every way. literally flawless.
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>>174464221
>>174468615

Have more fem Goro
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>>174468889
It was an insane gamble but it was pretty hype.
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>>174468669
>>174468785
>>174468898
was this an actual point of contention
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>friend preordered P5 back in 2015
>waited until last year after all the delays, sold his PS4
>game arrives, he tells me if he can borrow my PS4 and he'll give me the game for free after he beats it
>it's been 2 weeks
>mfw
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>>174468664
Beating happens after Christmas.

>>174468587
People won't even fucking talk to you because you're a known delinquent with a record. Even in Kaneshiro's arc when you've been there for a couple of months without incident, people still treat you like you could snap at any moment and whip out a gun or something.

Carrying a cat around honestly ain't that bad.
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>>174468361

Did anyone else to feel a disconnect between Ann's SL and her character elsewhere? Granted she's always a little ditzy, but outside of her SL she also has a certain degree of emotional maturity and kindness that just doesn't show up in the SL--it's just "Isn't Ann clueless?"
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>>174466938

its about wearing revealing clothing
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So can we agree that Goro betrayal is the worst plot twist in the series?
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Goro is so effeminate he's basically a chick anyway.
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>>174469029
Yeah, everyone saw Goro Akechi being the traitor coming from miles away. The real twist is how the protagonist faked his own death and another twist is Igor being a fake and the real villain is Yaldabaoth.
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>>174468476
didn't use his powers for good, used them for admittedly selfish reasons (revenge over a personal grudge) and then got trapped using them to help his target or get himself killed for disobeying

his motivations were selfish from the start, he even admits that

the pt are more similar to light plot-wise, they use morally questionable means for what they think is good and that escalates over time because it gets to their heads (until they get framed for an actual murder, that snaps them out of it)
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>>174468889
Watching it now.
I now understand why everyone loves to use this picture.

I'll be surprised if he doesn't die of a severe anal prolapse with how fucking booty blasted he'll be when he realises he's been rused harder than a scientologist.
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>>174468984
it's literally a 100 hrs game
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>>174468036

groo doesn't aspirations of becoming the next overlord.

He just wants to ruin daddy.
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>>174468830
>fem goro fits all my ideals for a waifu, what i've been waiting for all these years
>only she's not canon
I don't GET IT
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>>174467731
Heinrich Burg
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>>174468830
Fem Goro looks like Goro with boobs. That's why I like Goro so much!
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>>174469029

It wasn't supposed to be some epic twist. It was really fucking obvious. Everything after that "twist" is the actual twist.

Goro isn't shit because of the twist, Goro is shit because he is a complete fucking retard whose entire struggle meant nothing.
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So does the change of heart happen by stealing the treasure or by beating down the shadow? Because the shadow starts to get remorseful after losing, as if a change of heart is happening at that moment yet the treasure hasn't been stolen. But the whole point is to steal the treasure and bring down the palace.
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>>174469105
>I don't GET IT
And you never will
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>>174468943
jesus christ she's even more perfect than male akechi
>we could've had CUTE yandere gf
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>>174468984
wash your hands you disgusting fuck
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>>174468785

I agree, but I felt let down, like " well why didn't you tell me that was his name in the first place? "
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So the girl you pick gives you an item at the end that gives you all of her confidant perks right from rank 1 in new game right?

Does it boost the confidant to rank 10 as well?

Like if you go for sensei in NG then in NG+ she does everything for free and offers massages?
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I have to find a video game cheater in mementos but they don't have a name and isn't counted as a target.

Do I have to find him in the real world first or do I just randomly search around inside mementos
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>>174469147
Sorry, Goro is flat.
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>>174469312
The key items let you have access to some of the Confidant abilities as soon as you start, like Kawakami will always have her massage service but you still have to pay for the rest of the services 'til you max her out.
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>>174469093
I know, it's killing me. But free game is free game, and my PS4 was gathering dust until P5 arrived
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>>174468984
I'm a step above a no-life NEET that only works about 6-8 hours a week. I was playing the game within an hour of release and it still took me like a week and a half to beat it. No-lifing it averages you about a day a dungeon on first playthrough.
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>>174459185
>everyone is getting upset about how goro wasn't actually a lady
You're all fucking retards. Y-you can't change fate
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>>174467731
Nobunaga Oda
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>>174469084
>>174469179

Pretty much this. Just because it's obvious and "Not supposed to be the twist" doesn't make it any less half assed written.

They didn't want to anger the fans by costing them a bro or a waifu so they made the temporary guy the one nobody liked, and then also made him a psycho murderer just so nobody would miss him.
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>>174469314
You have to go to the arcade in Shibuya and talk to some generic NPCs.
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>>174469312
I didn't know this! Seems like what carries over varies from game to game. What all carries over here? I didn't get a max rank item from Ryuji iirc
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>>174469478
jokes on them, he's still my bro
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>>174469414
>tfw goro will be female when playing as fem joker
>no lesbians allowed
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>>174469478
>and then also made him a psycho murderer just so nobody would miss him.
Well, that didn't work evidently.
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>>174469423
Naming the protag this just makes everything else in the plot all the more obvious.
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>>174469231
It's pretty hard to tell Goro and Fem Goro apart
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>>174469564
? He's basically never mentioned again after he dies.
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anyone got the akechi doodle with the evil grin leaving the interrogation room that pops up around this one's as-well as the protags? would be appreciated
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I heard that there is apparently an interview with adachi on the tv in persona 5?
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>>174469724
I meant for the fans.
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>>174469085
>the pt are more similar to light plot-wise, they use morally questionable means for what they think is good and that escalates over time because it gets to their heads (until they get framed for an actual murder, that snaps them out of it)

That was kind of bullshit honestly. The plot slapped them in the face when they started to enjoy their rightly earned fame and hit them with the typical Japanese "You must suffer and sacrifice for the greater masses" shit.

There's nothing wrong with personal gain if you aren't harming others through it.
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>>174469750
Yep.
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>>174469724
>mentioned almost directly afterwards over messages
>mentioned during shido battle
of course they're not gonna cry over him for obvious reasons but stop pretending the thieves didn't sympathize with him and wish to save him
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>>174469478
>Pretty much this. Just because it's obvious and "Not supposed to be the twist" doesn't make it any less half assed written.

I don't think it should even be considered a twist though. It's only disappointing if you think of it as a twist. It's very predictable and clearly pretty much just an event in the story, not meant to be surprising. You literally know from the moment you start the game that you are betrayed and when and where you get betrayed, and then Akechi joins you right before you enter the place where you get betrayed at the beginning of the game. HMMMMMM.... WHO COULD IT BE?

Also by doing what they did, trying to make Akechi not alienate anyone by dying by making him an unlikable sociopath, all they did was make him a waste. I don't care if a character lives or dies more than I care that they are a GOOD character. Akechi was just lame.
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>>174469801
The idea is that the fame was corrupting their vision of what the Phantom Thieves would be.
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>>174469817
shit, any pictures or what it mentions? didn't see it in my playthrough
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What the fuck is wrong with Futaba's teeth in this splash? It always bugged me.
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>>174459185
Can someone please redraw the picture of Makoto posting 'stop talking about groo holy shit' with FemGoro instead of Makoto? If someone could also post the reference picture it would be appreciated
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>>174469501
>What carries over?
Any items you get from Rank 10 Confidants on the Last Day.
Any items you get from your Lover(s) on Christmas Eve and Valentine's Day (as well as the chocolate Sojiro gives you the day after if you trigger that event).
Your Compendium.
Your Equipment.
Your Money.
Your Skill Cards.

I think that's it.
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>>174469902
Interviewer asks if he really killed two people by hanging them over telephone wires

Adachi says yes, and when questioned why he just says the world sucks.
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>>174469736

i have this one
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that yusuke rank with ann and ryuuji there is so good

should be more group links
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>>174469914

She's Japanese.
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WHY DOES THE HOLD UP MUSIC START BEFORE I INITIATE THE NEGOTIATION REEEEEEEE
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>>174469850
Good thing I didn't say that then?
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>>174469914
When the fuck is this image use in-game? Just for the statsscreen?
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Anyone else somewhat surprised that there hasn't been an ounce of controversy over the fact that you can have sexual relations with your teacher?
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>>174469971
Bless this serial killer
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>>174469971
adachi must seem like a really lame serial killer to the public
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>>174470065
Well duh, nobody cares. They'd only care if Kawakami was male and the protag was female.
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Post yfw you first saw Shadow Sae and her portrait
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>>174469985
The rank in Ann's Confidant where she goes to the gym with you and Ryuji is one of her best ranks, only possibly competing with her Rank 9 event since you get closure on Shiho.
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>>174470141
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>Mishima during the Hawaii parts
MY
NIGGER
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>>174470141
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>>174470141
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>>174470146
>When Ryuji literally shits on her entire social link and character arc
This fucking guy
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>tfw like Goro because he's Adachi V2 to me
>will probably be called autistic because of people that defend him by going full autism
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>>174470141
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>>174470141
I'm in law myself, so I really felt for Sae over the entire game. Her entire character arc is basically a laundry list of reasons why I hate working in criminal law.

Making the courthouse a casino was fucking amazing symbolism on multiple levels, and it was a well-done dungeon in other ways, too. Unlike Shido, which was good on symbolism but played like shit.
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>>174470141
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>>174470065
Despite what you may think, most people on the Internet don't give a shit about these sorts of things in games unless you go looking for them.

>>174470141
I wish she could have seen it herself.
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GET SMOKED
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>>174469914
Tried to fix it. It's sort of the left end of the upper lip that throws it off really, but I also think that the teeth should be straight, parallel to the centerline of the face, instead of just being vertical.

>>174469921
Post the original image.
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What happens if you fail to stop Shido in time?
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>>174469927
If your level doesn't carry over, is it still like P4 where you don't have level restrictions on drawing from the compendium?
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>>174470434
What do you think
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>>174470415
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>>174470434
He makes Japan great again
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>>174470434
Shido gets real.

Bad end.
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>>174470256
>The entire School Festival with Mishima and Ryuji

Easily one of the best scenes in the game. Makes you genuinely feel the camaraderie between the three while also being fucking hilarious. Like the P4 camping trip.
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>>174470415
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>>174470283
It's even better if you do it after you finish up Ryuji's Confidant, because you can feel his frustration.
>You honestly think that getting abs is all you need to do for a good Persona? I'm the physical beater and even I don't buy that.
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>>174470478
I don't know, that's why I'm asking
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I really thought Ann's social link would lead her to realizing that she doesn't actually get any joy or fulfilment out of modelling and is doing it just because it was an easy path handed to her on a silver platter, especially after she sees how much work Mika puts into it. But instead she just ends up... redoubling her efforts? What happened here? It's kind of disappointing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdOjF2XilwM

Thoughts?
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>>174470141
>when you see her Leviathan form
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>>174470549
i assume ranks 11 to 20 are going to be her actually getting her shit together
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So I know NG+ is supposed to be a cake walk, but what if I did a Arsene only run on Merciless? Would it still be as easy? Any tips for making my guy as strong as possible and for eventually fusing him into Satanael?
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>>174470065
Given you initiate it, not really.
If YOU were the teacher, there would be. But as you're not, no one cares, it's just teenage wish fulfillment.
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Who's the Aeon confidant in the remake?
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>>174470462
Yeah. If you finished Strength then it becomes even easier, since the Rank 10 Strength ability carries over into NG+ via an item, and that ability lets you bribe Igor to ignore your level for Persona Fusions. It can get pricey if the level difference is greater than 5, but on NG+ you aren't spending money on equipment upgrades or social stats, so it should be fine most of the time.
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The Yongen-Jaya backstreets are so fucking comfy.
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>>174470560

Kawakami comes over in her maid outfit to massage Joker. Then they have sex, but right before penetration Joker undoes her pig tails and tells her she's cuter that way, then they kiss and Joker shits on her face
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>>174470549
This is so cliche since Persona 3.

>character says they will stop doing X and will go for Y because that's what society wants
>Rank 9/10 is the character saying they won't go for Y and will continue doing X
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>>174470368
i loved the symbolism behind the casino too. sae was one of my favorite characters, honestly.
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>>174470560
I finally work up the courage to kill myself.
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>>174470681

Shido, somehow.
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>>174470754
This is why people who like Risette are fucking cucks.
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what is the difference between merciless and lunatic or whatever the dlc difficulty is?

i wanna play my ng+ on the dlc difficulty and want to know if it's worth it
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>You've already been there with Lady Ann.
Morgana, man. Why are you keeping track of my dates with her? Wouldn't that be like the last thing he'd want to think about?
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I had no clue the Reaper could get despair.

I made a fucking mistake.

In Shido's dungeon and everything I ambush gets fucking killed instantly.


What the fuck have I done
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>>174470560
As Anne's social link progresses, she slowly grows more and more dominant towards Joker and everyone else around her.
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>>174470923
The magician is the girl problems arcana. Forever
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>>174470754
>showing how blind defiance of what people want you to do is wrong and that what really matters is what you want, no matter what people tell you to do is wrong
Unironically kill yourself.
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>>174470681
The REAL Igor. He starts communicating with you from his prison without betraying who he is, starting from roughly halfway through the game. Towards the end, he floats at around Rank 5~6 until the 24th, then he starts ranking up like mad as you progress through the Depths.
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Did you guys enjoy the five part Shido boss fight?
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>>174470560
A filthy fucking smut piece where Joker takes Futaba to her room and then violently defrags her Computer and the sick bastard does it to her offline after which he does the unthinkable and cuddles her until the next morning.
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>>174470754

Yeah but it's kind of jarring in 5 because Ann is the only one that does that.

Futaba breaks out of her shell more in her confidant, and Makoto and Haru actively change their future goals to what they personally want and not what's expected of them and stick with them.

Ann is the only one that goes "I'm gonna change...wait nvm"
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>>174469921
>>174470430
>>174459015
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>>174471007
I said it's cliche and very obvious how it will all go. Calm your autism, cucklord.
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>>174471041
I did, bit weird though how his first phase was his hardest
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>>174470560
Joker invites his girlfriend over one night, and ends up having sex with her in the bathroom in order to avoid Morgana's demands for him to go to sleep.
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>beat P5
>come back to the general after 2 years gone to see craspy copy pasta and memes at the start of the thread

I-I'm home ;_;

Futaba is the best girl
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Sup.

I'm Philemon.

Tell me a bit about yourself (like passions, hobbies, dreams, how you deal with friends, how you view society) and I'll give you a persona.
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>>174471150
fuck off newfag
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>>174471198
13/F/Cali

I eat ass
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>>174470754
But Ann never considers stopping modelling because of societal pressure, it's because she's unsure of herself. I just thought it would make more sense as a character arc for her to come to the conclusion that it isn't her actual calling in life, especially after all the focus on how she's just naturally beautiful and doesn't have to put any effort in even if she wants to.
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>>174470560
A well-drawn expansion of Futaba's Christmas Eve and Valentine's Day scenes where Joker spends time hugging and apologizing and then they hold hands and do romantic crap for several pages.
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>>174471216
Thanks man.
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>>174471198

I'm straight but have no interest in actually having sex because people are fucking disgusting
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>>174471198
Everybody treats me as if I'm mentally retarded, I like drawing, my only friends are random anons on sub-par videogame generals and I think staying inside playing vidya is better than knowing what society is like.
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>>174471041
It was okay, but having access to Rank 10 Judgement at that point kinda made it easy as fuck since you can bribe Igor to let you make the Archangels, which Rank 10 basically puts to their full movesets.

Futaba also trivializes basically any grind boss if you max her out. Akechi was annoying on the first playthrough, but on NG+ I actually maxed Hermit. Futaba randomly Heat Riser'd then Ultra Charged and his health basically dissolved from there. Similar story with Shido. The twins are still giving me hell, though.
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>>174471198
I'm going to kill myself

>passions, hobbies, dreams, how you deal with friends

hahahahahahaha
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Maybe there really will be a girl Joker option in the remake. There's pretty much no way to add content to this game, which they had to have intended. They can't do a P4G situation. So they can either pull a P3 FES and have some tacked on secondary story that is set all on one day or something. Or they can pull a P3P and add a girl option with new social links. Unlike P4 there is not nearly as much gender specific situations that would need to be written around.
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>>174471041
Made me use a Soma to get enough SP to kill Char-Armstrong.
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>>174471198

i like movies and enjoy writing, the dream i tell everybody is that i want to become a screenwriter but my real unobtainable dream is to be some fucking kamen rider-esque hero who fights for justice. i'm the comedian/therapist of my friend circle and i think society is hypocritical and rewards morally black people much more than anybody else.

give me my persona now you fucking butterfly
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>>174471198
Just fuck my shit up Phil
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>doesn't even tell you how many enemies there are when you start a battle

Shit tier nav
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>>174471198

The world is full of shit. That's how I view society.
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>>174459630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaCXGJAGGjU

Got you covered senpai.
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>>174471101
if you want the actual template
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Is there a lore reason why was someone like Goro allowed to have the Wild Card besides the fact that he was given it?
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>>174471427
I want a female link with the school newspaper girl.
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>>174461281
>>174461704
I think you have to be dating Ann in order to get a Hawaii invite
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>>174471427
Sojioro randomly taking in a bunch of teenage girls.

Kamoshida is after your pussy. Leaves Ann alone. Shiho doesn't jump and becomes a Rio like confidant
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>>174471198
Hey, guy. Thanks for doing this, Mr. Philemon.

I'm a fairly normal guy. I like to draw, to create, to be the best I can be. But the cynical attitude I have inherited from this website makes me a crazy perfectionist, and it's ruined my self esteem, as well as my opinions of myself, and society.
It's gotten to the point where I'm cynical about how cynical I am, but I know no other way. And it makes me angry, at myself, and at the world.

I know this attitude will cripple future relationships, pursuits of love, etc, etc. But surprisingly enough, I'm not cynical enough to give up.

Cool mask, by the way.
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>>174462248
>>174462143
>>174461917
Maybe because Haru comes in so late they didn't want players who can't handle their time to be locked out of rank 10 Empress?
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>>174471427
>not nearly as much gender specific situations that would need to be written around
the entire premise of the game? a girl wouldn't be taken seriously by the police as an assaulter, and she certainly wouldn't get all beat up by them.
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>>174471576

That girl is a cunt.

Really the NPCs is in this game are disappointing compared to P4.
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>>174462756
What's the line? She's only ever said something about trouble with women and then the Empress arcana but I never understood what she meant
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>>174471553
Chosen for his attitude, probably. Need the good and the bad.
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Imagine someone playing P5 totally blind and spoiler free. They're on Shido's ship, get through the tough stream of battles and the Cleaner, go to save and WHAM, this fucking guy shows up out of nowhere and you didn't know shit.

Then you die and start over.

How is that fair? That's some SMT shit there.
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>>174471553
Do they even state that it's the Wild Card? It's established that even non-Wild Cards can have multiple personae (although this is primarily limited to alternate forms and upgrades of the base). It's not outside the realm of possibility that Akechi just has two Personas. One could be the one that Yald gave him to play the Game, and the other could be his own power awakened by that gift, much like how Izanagi just woke up your Wild Card in P4.
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>>174471686

Shido owns the police. If he wants them to ruin her they will.

They may or may not beat her up after her arrest. Maybe they just make her looked roughed up but don't actually show her being kicked around.
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>>174471678
Are you me?
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>>174471427
>mfw they go the Eternal Punishment route and rip everyone's happiness away

I don't think my poor heart could take that again.
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>>174459278
>Anne
>e
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stop talking about groo holy shit
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>>174471794
what, shido is just going to tell the police that he got assaulted by some teenage girl? would his pride let him do that?
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>>174471710
>Really the NPCs is in this game are disappointing compared to P4.
I think the problem is 3 and 4 had a much smaller area so they had more places for random NPCs with arcs. Here, it's so big you can just fast travel to any location so you end up skipping most of it. No spacey girl or anything.
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>>174471796
Probably not. I'm also a Annefag, and I'm pretty sure I'm one of three of those on this general.
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if there is a girl route I want a yuri romance with Sae
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>>174471782
I knew it was coming at SOME point (as in I knew he was an enemy you beat in the game), but the Akechi fight on the boat took me hella off-guard on the first run.

I ended up burning a Soma mid-fight, but it ended up being okay thanks to Hifumi.
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>>174471782
They would have to remove the part when Joker is told that he was betrayed by one of his own in the first fucking 10 minutes of the game.

I already guessed it was Goro because he was the only one who had ties to the police.
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Baton pass is broken.
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>>174471890
Just say she pulled out a bat or another weapon and hit him from behind. Or say she was some spiteful lover or whatever. He has enough clout to make people believe anything.
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>>174471968
I kind of wonder

If they had removed that line would the twist have worked better?
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I want to fuck Goro in the ass.
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Make Hifumi playable! Have her and Yusuke switch roles in the femroute
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who has the biggest forehead in p5`
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>>174471968
I think he's referring to the fact that there is absolutely no opportunity to save and no reason to patch up after the cleaner fight unless you know that you're about to get jumped.

>Try to Goho-M after the cleaner fight in the NG+.
>The game explicitly stops me from doing so.
Cheeky cunt devs.
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>>174471787
he's not explicitly called a wild card but he can use multiple personas and yaldabaoth picked him and joker for the same qualities

staff comments mention repeatedly that they're designed as counterparts too iirc

they're both wild cards, goro just didn't make full use of that power because he was fine with just loki and robin
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>>174472047
How would she be introduced?
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>>174471998
Just like in Pokemon
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>>174471794

Shido might be able to pull off some BS charge but everyone treating MC like a ticking crazy man thug probably wouldn't be seen as the same in a female character.
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>still no doujins with Shadow Sae
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>>174472172
Fucking hell, don't remind me
>The Smogon people have to go against their own creed and complex nerf it
>It's still fucking good
Who the fuck designed that stupidly good move
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>>174472110
>One Light/Dark/Almighty dude with decent healing abilities and no real weakness.
>One Physical/Buff/Debuff dude with no weakness.
Yeah, honestly that's a fairly legit loadout.

>>174472135
Just give every non-party Rank 10 Confidant the ability to come to Memetos or something.

That idea sounded much less dumb in my head.

>>174472172
Shut up, Smogon.
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>>174471782
that exact situation happened to me, I was pushing through the dungeon wanting to clear it in a day and reluctantly using a couple of small sp items to tide my team over thinking that the cleaner guy would the last miniboss I needed to deal with only for Goro to show up straight afterward. I actually had to use a soma in that fight as a result or I'd have to leave and re-enter later just to fight him which would suck.
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>>174460226
>/v/tards getting triggered

Good. Now fuck off if you don't like it.
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>>174472196
Give her a yankee design and people would buy it.
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>>174472079
Yaldabaoth.
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Are the Phantom Thieves JUST?
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Are the Phantom Thieves JUST
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>>174472110
>goro just didn't make full use of that power because he was fine with just loki and robin

I never really got that. Guy wants to be powerful and special and finds out he can use more than one Persona, but deliberately chooses not to make anything but minimal use of this ability to get one extra persona he only uses on the off chance he needs to trick people into thinking he only has one.
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>>174472318

But Ryuji is a yankee so it would be like forced shipping.
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>>174471280
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Empress arcana Demeter
>>174471320
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Judgement arcana Leviathan.
>>174471326
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Sun arcana Fukurokuju
>>174471404
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Hanged Man arcana Sisyphus
>>174471465
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Chariot arcana Thelemachus
>>174471501
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Heremit arcana Zoroaster
>>174471678
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Hierophant arcana Hephaestus
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Do I still get more requests from Mishima after I beat the casino? All this time I forgot to use the trick to farm money.
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>>174472172
*Blocks your path*
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>>174464646
Shido has to live with his guilt though?
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>>174472423
People already try to do that shit. Doesn't matter. Just give her a long skirt and a piercing glare and people will say she was in a gang.
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>>174472396
>>174472110

I always thought the reason Goro's Wild Card was so underutilized was because Goro couldn't figure out how to use it, since he's just been fucked over his whole life so he never had any bonds. Presumably he only got Robin Hood because he made bonds with cops but his true face was always Loki.
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>>174471198
>Love Japanese history and culture, especially the Sengoku era
>play video games (no duh), watch anime (no duh), RP, write meticulous backstories for characters I never use, study history
>ultimate dream: Open a Japanese historical and cultural museum in the US designed to look like a Japanese castle from the outside; mid-tier dream: write a fantasy novel and a historical fiction novel that are both decent if not best-sellers; low-key dream: find a nice lady or pretty boy, settle down in a nice big apartment, maybe have a kid (only one)
>I love my friends a whole lot but I find it hard to talk to people individually just to shoot the breeze
>I view people as basically good, and while I view many old cultures from US to original Americans, from Europe to the Pacific as beautiful... I feel conservatism and tradition have too much hold on many institutions due to people's fears of loss and the unknown, and as a result it is difficult for us to openly discuss, instruct upon, and move past the evils of the past, such as racism, religious bigotry and misogyny
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>>174472454

>telemachus

wow you actually thought this shit over didn't you philemon

pretty cool thanks man
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>>174472605
Pretty sure they explicitly state that the only reason Goro doesn't have anyone but Loki and Robin Hood is because he has no bonds and only his lies and resentment.

Both of his personae come from himself; it's just two different masks he uses for handling the world.
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>>174469736
>>
>they remake Persona 3 and 4 and build it with Persona 5's engine
>Persona 3's remake contains everything from FES and P3P, as well as being able to change outfits but still keep the same armor
>Persona 4's remake is basically just Golden but with the newer engine and models, as well as a bunch of P4 DAN models

Yes?
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>>174472502
As someone who's just come back onto here after beating the game blind, what is the money trick? Is the flu season reaper thing or something else. I ask since I started NG+ with only ~200k and I need more money for fusion since I burned a bunch of money near the end of the game making some personas higher than my level like shiva and vishnu as I knew they were good personas from previous games.
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Why is abusive behavior towards men okay, but when its done to a female, its a whole other story?
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>>174471198
I'm gay and I'm the closet. I don't care that I'm attracted to guys or if people know. It's more that I want to be a lot more animated of a persona because I secretly crave all eyes to be on me. However if I came out, I would just be seen as a campy stereotype. Even though that's how I want to be, people would just assume it's part of my "gay mask" rather than me working on myself to be a more fun outgoing person
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>>174472728
That was my understanding. He tried to do everything himself and didn't trust anyone
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>>174472396
it makes more sense if you look at their skillsets imo

robin has light/dark/almighty skills and instakills, a strong phys attack, passives that make him resist status effect and autocast tarukaja, gets debilitate, has samarecarm, has charge as a boss too

loki has dark/fire/almighty skills, single- and multi-target phys skills, makarakarn/tetrakarn, a buff that lowers attack and boost defense, heat riser, debilitate, dekaja, and stupid general abilities like hiding his presence/changing his outfit/making things lose restraint and go berserk

he's that jackass that makes two really good personas and then uses nothing but those for the rest of his run

and then he realizes he forgot healing skills and gets a game over for it
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>>174472790

As long as they are making new stuff too, I don't mind.

I really don't think I can replay 4 again. But I could be down for another jaunt in P3 if they update it for a new system as it's been years since I've played it.
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What're the criteria for actually finishing the Caroline/Justine fight? I'm in the early 60s and I can definitely put up a decent fight, but they tell me at Turn 11 that I'm not good enough and AOA my entire party, even though Caroline is half dead and Justine is a quarter down.
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>>174464646

Even if he does get off, he won't run again. His desire to do so was stolen by the thieves.

He'll just be miserable for the rest of his life.
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>>174472790

>Wanting more P4

No
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>>174472889

I watched a youtube video of some guy beating them at around 62. He was kind of fumbling through the fight too, so I don't get the impression it's incredibly hard.
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>>174472889
I think you just need to keep the pressure on them and attack them both evenly. I always used Hassou Tobi so I was damaging them both at the same time.
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>>174472454
>Hephaestus is also Vulcan depending on mythology
>Vulcan is Tatsuya's initial Persona
Rad.
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>>174472812
Societal misconception that females can't protect themselves combined with age-old concept that fighting against people that can't fight back puts the aggressor in a bad light.

If you bully a dude, he's weak for not fighting back. If you bully a girl, you're an ass for picking a fight with somebody that can't fight back.
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>>174472790
As long as it's not all we get, sure. I don't mind remakes. If you want it again, fine. If you don't, skip it.
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>>174472454
>fukurojuku
>penis head
th-thanks, philemon
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>>174472683
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Hierophant arcana Tenjin
>>174472819
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Lovers arcana Patroclus
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>>174472889

You have to deal so much damage per so many turns.

It's basically done to keep you from cheapassing your way through it by turtling up, since they don't penalize you for blocking like Liz does.
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HEY INMATE!

I LOVE YOU
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>>174472959
That might be it. MC has no problems piling on the pressure with Power Charge -> Swords Dance, but the rest of the party spends a good chunk of time recovering and buffing, so consistent damage from them is a bit hard.
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>>174471198
My passion is voice acting. Call this the most chuuni shit but sometimes I'd talk out loud to myself while playing games, like I really get into it, especially if I'm fighting a boss. Usually I'd say whatever the characters are saying. My hobby is playing video games. My dream would to become a voice actor... the very same kind of voice actors that you guys hate because everyone here hates English dubs. I don't know how to connect with people. I have friends, but I always wonder if I'm a good friend, or if I'm a good person, or if I'm even a person. I'm mostly indifferent to society.
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>>174472790
I wouldn't buy either.

Played way too much P3 in my time. And you would have to change nearly everything about P4 and turn the clock back 7 years to get me to spend any more money on it.
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>>174471198
Likes aviation stuff, antisocial, vivid imagination, Society is ok I suppose.
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>>174472993

Which is why a female MC wouldn't work. Shido would look more like an ass for getting physical with a young girl (nevermind losing) to make it worth his time. They'd have to come up with a completely different charge plot.

Also I feel like even Japan knows that's too much for western SJWs to take and they'd get blasted for it.
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Who's the most sexual of the p5 cast?
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>>174473145
Your party is there to prevent JustCarl AoA
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>>174473279
>JustCarl

JUST
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>>174473278

Kawakami is a literal whore.
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LAVENZA IS CUTE
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>>174473278
Goro is the most sexual boy
Kawakami is the most sexual girl by default of her occupation
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What kind of cat is Morgana's regular cat form based off?
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>>174473174
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the moon arcana Kvasir
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>>174471198
Alright.
So I'm a big movie guy, and my dream is to end up working on movies like, for a living.
I'm pretty immersed in pop culture, despite not having many friends. I pretty much never hang out with anyone outside of class/work.
I feel pretty severed from society, like everyone doesn't see me as good enough to be worth their attention.
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>>174471041
The first phase was kinda of a SP drainer but it was an otherwise fun fight. Having Haru cast tetrakarn on the whole party and then watch Armstrong punching himself was hillarious and almost intented.
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Would the fanbase accept female Goro since Goro was probably raped as a child?
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>>174472803
Confuse a mementos boss as long as you can so they drop lots of dosh.
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>>174473354
at most she tugged a couple dicks, we saved her from going full on prostitute.
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>>174473470
>Would the fanbase accept
No
Just stop any question that starts there
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>>174473470
The dick makes him better so no
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>>174473470
>since Goro was probably raped as a child?
>Mother a useless whore that hated her son.
>Father didn't even know he existed.
>No mention of any other family
Goro's likely had a hard life, but rape probably isn't on his resume.
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>>174466453
Nani?
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>>174471198
I want to kill this fucking faggot dog for telling me when to sleep and also i wanna
FUCK
THAT
AUTISTIC GIRL
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>>174473227
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Tower arcana Icarus
>>174473403
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Judgement arcana Jormungandr
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>>174470649
What about a Jack Frost run?
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>>174473354
You might want to pay more attention to her SL.
She's a virgin cake.
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>>174472790
I literally have never played P4 before and I'm really missing having the ability to control your party members in P3 since I don't have the PSP version so yes.
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>>174473503
Can it be on any boss in mementos (i.e. you can do it from any request boss) or just the ones that are at the end of paths?
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>>174473354
she's tugged on dicks, i've tugged on a dick, it's all good
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>>174473676

She is an impure harlot who has known the semen of other men.
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>>174473090
Tenjin eh?
Definitely fitting. Thank you Philemon.
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>>174473626
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Devil arcana Shoggoth
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>>174473638
>the world serpent that encircles the world and is constantly devouring its own tail
Call me an idiot, but I don't really get how 'autistic depressed man who wants to be a cameraman' translates into that.
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>>174473673
HEE HOO :DDDD
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>>174472790
Only if they remake Persona 2 first since it actually deserves one.
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>>174473728
Request bosses drop the most dosh.

>>174473764
Only in your headcanon.
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>>174472790
Nah, Persona 2 or nothing. I guess I'd buy the other two but I'd much prefer the game that really, really needs a remake to get it.
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>>174473767
Shit nigger, thanks. also, why the fuck haven't you shown up in 3 games slut?
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>>174471198
13/F/Cali

I don't eat ass.
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>>174471198

I genuinely care very little about anything and anyone. My last girlfriend broke up with me because she called me an unfeeling monster. I don't care what I do as long as I'm able to be self-sufficient and burden society.

I like movies and carpentry.
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>>174473872
I've been busy
>>174473782
Sorry m8, that's what came from the sea of thy soul.
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does futaba have a hawaii event?
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I'll use my PERSONA
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>>174471198
>no passion, gave up on my dreams
>distance myself from my friends because I'm afraid they'll abandon me
I don't worry about society because everyone has a different vision for it and struggle against each other to enforce an ugly and corrupt implementation of what they believe to be right. To me, the only winning move seems to be not to play.
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>>174473825
good to know, thanks for that, I relied on abusing fundraise on my first playthrough which at most only got me ~30k in a battle.
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>>174474028
She doesn't get a chance to go at all, so doesn't seem like it.
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>>174459446
Òn my first Persona game(been wanting to play one since 2005) and first play through. Makoto is love.
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>>174473825

She's a delivery health girl and the first time you meet her in her maidsona she's telling you about the "specials."
She has had other men blowing their sperm all over her, my friend.
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>>174474028
No.
Ann does if you romance.
Kawakami does if you romance.
Hifumi, Makoto and the bros are your choices otherwise.
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>>174473807
>Mocking the franchise mascot
I bet you're one of those fuckers who think Pikachu is shitty
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>>174473470
>Goro was probably raped as a child?
Unlikely.

What's more likely was Goro being whored out to old men to promote Shidou's campaign. It's not like he cares about the kid and it's easy.

People would just call Female Goro what he is now - an idiot with daddy issues. Probably alot of doujins of her fucking her dad.
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it's alright makoto we don't have to talk about eiko. fug
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>>174474139
i could only get kawakami to rank 9 in time for hawaii
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>>174474028

>Hanging out with your phone for a day
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>>174471198
I'm a washed-up game designer that made the mistake of wanting to specialize in tabletop and card games in an era of electronic entertainment's supremacy, and as such am now working passionately in law.

Rules are rules until they don't work, then you break them and make new rules. Life is a game, but it's not one that affords retries, so it's important to not fuck things up and to learn when you do.

Relationships suck, but they're also wonderful things that don't suck. There's good and bad in them, just like everything else, and it's important to find the good ones while understanding the bad.
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>>174474162
>Unlikely.

He was bounced in and out of foster care for years. Pretty likely he's been diddled.
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>>174474203
you have enough days to finish her and fuck twice before Hawaii
Madarame's dungeon affects the start time
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>>174470649
Anyone? I want to make sure this goes as smoothly as possible.
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>>174471198
I'm Jack Frost. Hee ho.
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would you fuck the Satomi sisters?
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kawakami in the art museum's lighting is so pretty
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>>174474274
Yeah, but his woes were that he was an unwanted child. If he was sexually abused in some way, that implies someone who adopted him found him worthwhile.

His backstory is too vague to know, but I think childhood rape is a bit dark.
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>>174474329
I don't think anyone has tried it. The thing is that with the right NG+ equipment you would probably be fine for a while anyway.
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>debating in getting Persona 5
>go to game store to mull over it
>they have one of the big collector editions
S-should I go for it?
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>>174472790
Only if they fix P3 links so I'm not forced to harem all the girls, and replace a lot of the shitty ones with actual interesting ones.
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>>174474462
no save your money and get the base game, the rest is just sample shit
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>>174474462
YES
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>>174474110
Her SL is about her being too old to be a maid and barely getting requested. When she does she does actual work like walking dogs, cleaning animal cages and doing actual chores to the point she becomes so exhausted that she has to be hospitalized.
Her whole SL is about her being a undesirable cake maid who is close to working at an actual whorehouse because she's being extorted. She basically can't even get requested for the special services because they call the young girls for that instead of her.
Her romance scenes heavily imply that she's a virgin and gives it to Joker.

>>174474203
Kawakami needs rank 10 for the Hawaii date.

>>174474310
Depends, she goes MIA after rank 9 for a while and that can fuck you.
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>>174471198
>flower- and language nerd
>want to work with languages for a living, either writing stories or translating them, can't actually get degrees for either because the only language degrees in my area are for language teachers, can't go elsewhere because other regions don't legally acknowledge my qualifications, stuck working dead-end low-qualification jobs where customers try to undercut my prices all the time
>really like hanakotoba even though it's useless around here
>usually that guy people vent to, try to be a voice of reason for friends but don't really have my own shit together
>guilt issues over losing a family member and nearly losing another one to medical problems, know neither is actually my fault but feel like if i'd been there at the right time i could've helped them
>think most of society is a pack of sheep who just follow the popular opinion or look for excuses to pretend they're better than others and attack them, but the few people who aren't make living tolerable
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>Finally get to work like her big sisters
>Take notes on how to be a proper guide
>Get split into 2
>Only get to spend time with her guest for 1 day

Why does Lavenza suffer so?
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>>174474441
It's got to be possible, right? My biggest fear is his two weaknesses; I'm not 100% sure if there's a way to get passives to get rid of the two.
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>>174473981
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Magician arcana Ixion
>>174474072
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Hanged Man arcana Tantalus
>>174474227
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Wheel of Fortune arcana Janus
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>>174474423

I don't know if it would be too dark considering Shiho was raped by Kamoshida, who wanted to fuck Ann and apparently molested other volleyball chicks. And wasn't Futaba nearly molested by an uncle? Kawakami and Makoto have to be saved from prostitution, and then in Makoto's S.Link her friend is nearly tricked into prostitution too.

This game is willing to go there.
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>>174470649
Assuming your Arsene carries over, you can use lockdown in advance to give him null to his weaknesses and then level him up with the gallows, giving him skills that way or with skill cards
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So what exactly are the possible romance scenarios that can happen in P5? I just got back from Hawaii and I visited the beach with Makoto and I'm wondering if that was one, even though I'm not even romancing her.
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>>174474585
lavenza can probably hang out with joker as much as she'd like now. not like she wasn't there on the last day and not like she has anything better to do. margaret's still helping out yu and aigis or whatever right and elizabeth's on her quest
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>>174471198

Sup dude my passions include Track and Field
I love Ramen
I think all adults are shit
and I LOVE TALKING ABOUT PHANTOM THIEVES
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>>174474727
I already lost the Velvet Room on my first playthrough so that's out of the question. I suppose I'll grab Lockdown as quickly as possible and work from there.
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>>174474545
Damn, Kawakami really pulls at my heart strings. Only other girl who pulls harder is Futaba, but she has probably one of the most screwed up histories.
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>>174474727
You can register your beefed up Arsene and just summon that shit ASAP in NG+
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>>174474690
Sexual abuse of women is perceived differently than sexual abuse of men.
>>
NEW THREAD PLEASE
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>>174470681
Wakaba
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>>174474740
Hawaii, school festival, christmas and valentine's day iirc
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>>174474740

That's the one I did too even though I had not triggered her romance yet. I guess the dialogue is a bit different if you are actually in a romance.
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>>174474829
futaba's main quest and yoshida's rank 10 got me misty

pretty much nothing else though
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>>174474749

Joker loses his powers after the final battle. That's why you can't enter the VR after the timeskip
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>>174474802
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>>174474834

What do you mean? Like when Ryuji nearly being raped by two homos in Shinjuku was played for laughs?
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>>174470918
There's no point doing it on ng+ since you'll stomp it either way. On a standard ng it was fine apart from it deprives you of getting any exp at all, and that if an enemy landed a crit on you you were dead as shit
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>>174474919
Then why can he use the third eye?
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>>174474919
I could still pop third eye and manage my personas so i doubt that
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when are you guys going to admit BotW was better?
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How exactly are you building up your confidant rank with Sae and then keeping it in the past, even though what's triggering it is in the future?
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>>174475008
drugs
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>>174474918
The thing is, the messed up part of Futaba's stories gets tied into Sojiro's story, where it only gets more messed up.

>>174475038
Both are great.
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>>174474530
>sample shit
Is it poor quality? I mean, it seems like a lot in there for the extra $20 or $30.
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>>174475050
The power of wild card
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>>174474829
Kawakami would've probably ended as a drugged up whore in Shinjuku somewhere if it wasn't for Joker.

I couldn't romance Futaba, she became the attached imouto who was clearly dependent on you. She felt more immature and childish than Nanako to me so I wanted to be her big brother instead.

>>174474918
I feel like Kawakami's SL becomes much better if you romance her since you get to see more of how fucked up her self esteem is and you can say cheesy and corny things to her to make her feel young and loved.

She also has the best Hawaii scene.
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>>174474575
would date anon
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>>174471198

>Tired all the time.
>NEET, graduated college.
>Binge drink a lot.
>Think every one that doesn't agree with me is stupid.
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>>174475050
P2 introduced time fuckery, P3 had a time loop, and Chihaya can see the future, don't question it
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>>174474802
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Chariot arcana Captain Kidd
>>174474575
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Temperance arcana Cernunnus
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>>174475050
You're not, are you? You don't get the Judgement Arcana Burst until you finish the Casino, I thought.
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>>174475050
Timeloop
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>>174475125
I only romanced Futaba because her headpat addiction got me right in the heart and it was clear she had it bad for Joker and wasn't catching on.

Plus, she drops the corniest fucking lines when you meet up with her afterwards, like calling you "hot stuff".
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>>174475089
Both the Artbook and the Soundtrack are baby versions of the real thing. Like, a eighth of the original size.
>>
>>174475151
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Magician arcana Silenus
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>>174471198
I'm from an alternate reality
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So realistically speaking how fat would Futaba be?
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>>174475182
You don't. It actually was a nice surprise that I didn't get a Burst when I made Anubis sometime in Futaba's dungeon.
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>>174475282
Oh, like the Etrian Odyssey ones. Yeah, I'll probably pass on it, then. Thanks.
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>>174475262
Yeah the headpat was really cute but Atlus fucked up.
>mfw no option to headpat Kawakami.
What the FUCK were they thinking?

Insert some random incoherent rage image.
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>>174475038
BotW was fucking great, but I spent $300 on a console for one fucking game.

But I enjoy Persona 5 to make that $300 I spent on the nogamestation worth it.
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>>174475371
Considering she's stated to never eat anything except for microwaveable noodles every once in a while? Probably just as fat as she is now.
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>>174475415
Well at least with the PS4 there's TWO games you can play on it.
>>
new bread
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>>174475125
>I couldn't romance Futaba, she became the attached imouto who was clearly dependent on you. She felt more immature and childish than Nanako to me so I wanted to be her big brother instead.
I understand that people could feel that way, but I didn't see it like that. I mean, maybe if she stayed like she was when you first meet her, or shortly after she starts her rehabilitation. But she does learn to be more independent.

I'm actually really thankful they didn't make her some super timid girl who was afraid to speak her mind. That route would have been super easy to go down.
>>
>>174475371
depends on a lot of factors but i'd say 17 pounds a year maybe? so 34 pounds heavier?????
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>>174475371

She wouldn't be fat since all she eats are cup noodles. But she would have scurvy and kidney stones.
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>>174475515
Nier is on PC anon. Stop making that joke.
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>>174475578
I wasn't referring to Nier though :^)
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>>174475386
>Both "I want you to depend on me" and "I want to depend on you" result in you with your head on her lap, instead of having one option being for the inverse.
Kawakami plays a good maid but it's clear she enjoys being on top romantically.
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>>174475371
If you're going NEET, you're either going to be severely overweight or underweight. Her diet doesn't seem to be good enough to pack on the pounds.
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>>174464587
While her writing is a bit uneven, there are certainly people who only get spaghetti when it comes to romance
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>>174475635
What other game?
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>>174475641
I'll have you know I'm of average weight anon
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>>174467731
Akira Fukunaga, after my two favorite directors: Akira Kurosawa and Cary Joji Fukanaga
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>>174467731
Hideo Kojima
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>>174467731
Jamal Blackson
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what went wrong bros?
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>>174470918
merciless is easier then hard if you know how to abuse it

you also have increased crit/weakness damage and of course being the player you can abuse it more
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>>174475359
I am thou... Thou art I... From the sea of thy soul, I come... from the Devil arcana Mephistopholes
>>
So do the random QR codes floating around in the air in Futaba's palace actually link to anywhere? I'm too lazy to take a screenshot and find out.
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>>174475809

>No Goro

I actually want to see how popular he is
>>
>>174475809

Haru deserved better.
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>>174475809
>futaba highest

What went so right?
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>>174467731
Lelouch Britania
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>>174475008
>>174475024
Lazy designers
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>>174475809
a-at least she beat Haru...
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>>174475809
Why the fuck do people vote for the protagonist in these things
>>
>Only 2nd or 3rd day of class
>Shiho talking about you to Ann and saying she hates the rumors being spread

Man, if P5 ever gets anything new, I want to see her get more time.
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goro has akechi name
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>>174476037
Looks cool, has a cool voice, people are egocentric. Why wouldn't they?
>>
>>174475974

Pintsize
Redhead
Glasses
NEET
Gamer
Hacker
Useful in-game
Aoi Yuuki
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>>174475050
you don't, you don't get bonuses from it until you pass the interrogation

>>174475371
not very

she doesn't eat much, you don't get fat from just being a neet unless your metabolism's shit

>>174475176
>temperance
>celtic god
i'm okay with this

>>174475809
stop posting pre-release polls

that one even shows the upcoming release date at the bottom for fuck's sake
>>
>>174476090
>>174476090


NEW THREAD
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>>174476018
>anne never lets her hair down in game

FUCK persona 5 god damn chinks can't do anything right
>>
>>174476095
the point is to compare before and after release polls to show how the audience shifted.

clearly we can all see makoto was going to reign supreme, even before release japs loved her
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>>174475981
>Get Jun Fukuyama for MC.
>Give him no goddamn speaking lines.
>No real opportunities to let him ham it up except in the opening and on Calling Card Days when he shouts "SHOWTIME".
The entire fucking Japanese voice cast was a bunch of all-stars and they were so fucking underutilized I felt insulted for downloading Weeb Mode.

>>174474919
Likely only temporarily. The Personae in this game come from cognition, and Morgana implied that the cognitive world still exists as part of the physical world (just weaker), so manifesting a Persona should just be a matter of time and effort.

Also, P4A made it clear that any conditions that gave access to a Persona let ANY Persona-user use their abilities, regardless of the origins of their Persona. The Dark Hour, Metaverse, and TV World are likely just places where you can tap into that power easier, like riding with training wheels, which makes sense since all 3 of those places are tied to the collective unconsciousness in some way or another.
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