/indie/ - Indie and Obscure Games General

And since I see "Valkyria Chronicles" in the OP, I'd like to ask how that game is. I briefly tried it, and was disappointed by how linear it was, but I heard that it's apparently a lot better than I thought, so could someone be nice enough to give me a rundown of it?

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i don't know why styg would add shotguns when burst firing rifles/smgs did their job in the game as AoE cone damage dealers

how are you guys expecting shotguns to work?

>>174436450
Does Valkyria Chronicles even count as indie by the generals definition? I mean, it was developed and published by a SEGA and I'd hardly call it obscure.

>>174436773
>i don't know why styg would add shotguns when burst firing rifles/smgs did their job in the game as AoE cone damage dealers
I already brought this up many times, both here and on the offical forum.

>I'm also a little worried shotguns will end up too similar to assault rifles. In both cases the defining feature is the ability to shoot a lot of projectiles at once, hitting multiple targets or dealing a lot of damage up close.

Styg's answer was
>This should not be the case. For one, the shotgun's effectiveness against single target drops rapidly with distance (precision drops quickly and the cone of attack is big), which is not so much the case with assault rifles.

So I'm asuming they will be like ARs but without their decent medium range effectiveness with semi-auto, but even more deadly up close. Most likely a total opposite of sniper rifles with ARs being a mix of both.

>>174437460
>Does Valkyria Chronicles even count as indie by the generals definition?

>as well as other games that just don't fit in any other general such as Atelier, Rayman, Pillars Of Eternity, Rise Of Nations, and Valkyria Chronicles.

>>174437696
So /indie/ is kind of like the miscellaneous games general?

To be honest, I've always felt a general like that should exist.

>>174436773
Classic vidya shotgun. Melee weapon.

Bastard Bonds or Battle Brothers?

>>174438076
>So /indie/ is kind of like the miscellaneous games general?
Yes since /jrpg/, /cyb/, /hmg/, and /wrpg/ fell off /vg/ months to years ago

>>174438406
Even a single tile of range beyond melee range is a big deal.

It's such a big deal that Force Emission had to be nerfed, it used to give one extra tile of range to unarmed attacks.

>>174438560
Battle Brothers is a much better game in pretty much every single way imaginable.

>>174436773
hopefully AP costs and shotgun stats are balanced in a way that makes it much more easier and efficient to combo with psi attacks, melee weapons, and traps than it is with ARs

>>174438968
What's wrong with ARs AP cost? You can get as lows as 9 AP/shot with 7.62 Hornet with Rapid Reloader, that's only 27 AP per burst.

Yuo can easily get 2 bursts in one turn with Commando and still have 23 AP to spare for something else, 43 with adrenaline/Blitz, 63 with both.

>>174438076
The 'obscure' allows us to take in people from deid off generals.

>>174438076
>>174438710
>>174439521
/indie/ - dead generals general

>>174439704
/jrpg/ died because SMT and FF and Neptunia split

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtidU8msp7k

Now this is what I call a proper remaster. Even if it's seventeen times (!) bigger than the original CD version.

>>174439704
Pretty much. It's like a nursing home for dying generals. It allows the few remaining people to continue discussing their games until there's no one left. And it's also limbo for games that are in a temporary state of inactivity, where it's not yet certain whether their general will resurrect once more or they'll just die.

>>174436259
remove spider

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Something in the author's notes for The Uncle That Works For Nintendo struck out at me, that if video game heroes were truly intelligent, they would hate us for the hell we put them through. When I was young I occasionally got similar vibes, brief instances where I believed that video game characters MIGHT be real and they hated me for the torture I give them.

>>174439754
I thought /jrpgg/ died because it was such a festering hive of shitposting that there were periods where the mods did not allow it to exist.

Flinthook is really fuuun.

>>174436259
I hope we are going to use her as the OP image forever.

>>174437696
I object to Rise of Nations. It's a RTS, it belongs to /civ4xg/.

>>174439704
/egg/ - Engineering Games General is for this purpose too
We already used to be Space Voxel Games General, but that died since none of those games update very often, and THAT used to Corneroids General.

We usually use skeletons in space suits as our mascot. It seems fitting.

Okay, how do I git gud at battle brothers? I feel like I'm just doing something wrong here in the early game. Do I just recruit a whole bunch of cheap shitters in the beginning to get more bodies, or do I only hire a few more decent guys? Also, what way should I go on the map to get more bandit thugs and less raiders/undead/orcs?

>>174443376
>We usually use skeletons in space suits as our mascot.
Got any images of that saved?

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>>174444030
Here.

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>>174444030
Not any in particular, it's such a common idea we just grab one of the hundreds other people have drawn
We including me draw other silly shit every now and then though

>>174443810
I'm curios about that too.

>>174444261
Very cute.

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>>174446229
Thank you.

>>174442248
I encourage you to try and claim /xivg/ for the spiders.

They are very apathetic to thread OPs and won't fight back.

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So now that I've beaten the Dullaha, what am I supposed to do? Do all the quests? I already have all the items and spells.

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>>174450021
>They are very apathetic to thread OPs
Are they now?

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>>174450543
By that I mean you can basically put anything in their OP and they won't even complain about it.

Occasionally one of their resident shitposters does whatever the fuck this is though.

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>>174436259

>>174438776
So are spears a no go?

>>174452716
Spears? In Styg? What the hell?

Is the shipwreck in The Witness supposed to be a reference to the wreck of Hesperus?

>>174452716
Spears will have the same range as all other melee weapons.

Quoting Styg:
>The weapons have the same reach as other melee weapons. We experimented a bit with increasing the range for spears but that did not work out satisfactory.

The on-hit effect (25% chance to block x mechanical damage) is supposed to represent the advantage spears have instead.

I would prefer if spears had at least one more tile of range too but it is how it is.

>>174440524
Mario was never in any danger though

>>174440524
I always was under the impression that every time I loaded a save after a Game Over, I would just create a new timeline and leave a world where the bad guy won behind me.

Of course, as a kid, I couldn't explain it, so my parents thought I overreacted to game overs.

>>174452840
Judging by one of the audio logs, I'd guess so. Not certain

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>>174451947
Was Yooka Laylee that bad?

>>174454490
Going off of dunkey's and yahtzee's review the game seems like a perfectly fine banjo-like collectathon albeit with some dumb design decisions and some poor signposting. Though if anyone was expecting it to be exactly as good as kazooie they were delusional.

>>174451947
I wonder if dates for the released games would be worthwhile or just clustering the info.

>>174454982
>Going off of dunkey's and yahtzee's review
Stopped reading there.

>>174455391
yet you felt the need to give me a (You)
thanks

>>174454982
Being developed by a bunch of ex-Rare devs with about the same development time and funding as the originals, all on a preexisting engine which cuts out a third of the work for them I expected it to be better than the originals.
At least thats what I expected at the time before more and more kickstarter projects massively disappointed.

>>174455681
>I expected it to be better than the originals.
then I'm sorry to say this but you were stupid for thinking so. Even outside of kickstarters being a crapshot a (relatively) independent game will most likely not achieve the same kind of game that a first party major title will.

>>174455391
It was 100% justified seeing as the asker posted eceleb shit.

>>174455963
>eceleb shit
>mfw I have no clue who the fat fuck in >>174454490 is or who Dunkey or Yathzee are.

>>174456112
dunkey is a fat youtube funny man and yahtzee is a critic

i didn't intend to start e-celeb shit I was just stating the reviews i had seen

>>174455903
It's not impossible, some games have managed to do it like Shovel Knight. There was no reason to doubt Playtonic after they got 2 million dollarinos outside of pure cynicism.

>>174456238
But isn't everyone's a critic? Why is yhatzee's opinion worth more than some random faggot on Steam?

>>174456530
>There was no reason to doubt Playtonic after they got 2 million dollarinos outside of pure cynicism.
I think I would call that more "not having incredibly high expectations" instead of "cynicism".

>>174456605
I didn't say yahtzee's opinion was worth anything more than some random faggot on steam I'm saying those are the two opinions I've seen.

>>174456238
There's nothing wrong with bringing up the criticisms of e-celebs like Yahtzee or Mark Brown of indie games. Stand up for yourself instead of blaming me for posting a yooka laylee image.

>>174456691
Oh, okay. My bad.

>>174456750
>Stand up for yourself instead of blaming me for posting a yooka laylee image.
what the fuck are you even talking about now my dude

My posts on this topic are
>>174454982
>>174455490
>>174455903
>>174456238
>>174456691

>>174456980
then who is >>174455963

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>>174457260
i dunno some guy

>>174457260
Wasn't me either.

I am
>>174456112
>>174456605
>>174456916

lel what the fuck is going on here?

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>>174453092
Are you sure?

>>174457462
>meanwhile I died in the very first mario level when I was a kid because I couldn't find the button to jump

>>174457635
that goomba's probably the most deadly thing

>>174456691
Its not such a high expectation. The original games werent that great and I could probably design a better sequel myself to be quite honest.
The problem of lack of publisher oversight in indie games compared to AAA is not as relevant to Rare's development of Banjo Kazooie. Yooka Laylee isnt even an indie game, Team 17 published them and extensively assisted Playtonic in development and QA.
I didnt expect the same level of polish but Yooka-Laylee is so below average compared to Banjo that something must have went really wrong

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miageta sora tooku hate demo kagayaki wo ushinawanai
kimi taiyou ga shizumu dakedo hitori kumo no mukou zutto mitsumeteiru
Darkness in the sky munu no kodou close my eyes hitome wo tojite flyin to your heart kaze ni notte kowaresou de todoketakute

>>174458530
Peut-être, mais une omellette au fromage, ça cale la cuirasse quelque chose de bien. Mais rien qu'une sale petite frappe dans ton genre ne peut connaître, la cuisine et le luxe, c'est pas dans tes habitudes, baltringue.

>>174458004
Well yeah the difference bewteen team17 and nintendo overseeing your work is worlds of differences. XCX development has some nice interviews to that topic that make clear how good big n is at pulling and loosing the leash.

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i feel like this should be in every video game from now on

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Maybe following main path was a better idea.

>>174459470
Well that was underwhelming. Decent end-fight at the very least.
Not sure what the fuck the girl at the end was about either and apparently the painful mode ending makes even less fucking sense.

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>>174444393

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>>174464207

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I need a cute game.

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I need to play Pathologic again, but it's hard to work up the courage. I got to day 4 the first time, but that was on my older computer and save file.

>>174466073
The Grey Garden
Slime Rancher

>>174466798
Googled Grey Garden, it's a TV show of some kind?
Slime Rancher looks good, but it's early access?

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>>174467197
Not that guy but slime rancher has been early access for a while but seems to be doing it properly, they've been adding shit for a while.

I've been thinking about buying it since I first heard of it, but it's on humble sale at the moment and that's as good an excuse as I'll ever get.

>>174467197
http://vgperson.com/games/graygarden.htm
No it's a japanese rpgmaker game.

>>174467337
>cute
>" Violence and gore. Some characters are beaten bloody, one loses an arm, etc. Implied torture and cannibalism in one ending.Implied attempt at sexual assault/harrassment. "
WOW
MUCH CUTE
SUCH ADORABLE

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>>174456112
>he doesn't know who Yahtzee is
He's a successful bar and hat owner

>>174466073
> stardew Valley
it's pure chilling, it really grown on me, have you tried it yet?

>>174467679
he sold the bar years ago didn't he, not to mention he moved to california like a year or two ago

>>174467479
Cute girls doing cute things on a cute adventure.

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>>174467679
He looks like a spider lover too.

>>174467776
I was interested because I kinda like the Harvest Moon games but what I read about it turned me away.
If I remember right, it was :
>art is meh
>it's one of these games where rather than picking a girl because you love her, you just pick the one with the most horrible backstory to make her happy
>spelunking and dungeoning is boring

>>174468000
>>it's one of these games where rather than picking a girl because you love her, you just pick the one with the most horrible backstory to make her happy
isn't that the norm for harvest moon

>>174467781
I said successful, not current.

>>174468054
Not in the ones I played.

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I desperately need the picture of Mae and Bea driving, with Bea going 'shut the fuck up mae'

>>174469218
it was just in the last thread, i posted it

i don't have it saved though

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Anyone want Spintires on steam?
Just got the Humble Bundle for Slime Rancher and I already have ST.

>>174468000
>art is meh
one positive point I think, as it resembles old school snes rpg, like Zelda and secret of mana
the action combat as well, and pretty smooth running engine if I say so
>waifu picking
the way it seems they have genetic personalities, but develop as your relationship grows,
to be fair i initially thought they were all bitches but now can't choose between them
>terrible past
unless you're /rk9000/ they're fine, just don't expect virgins
>boring dungeon
that's is kind of true, though its not grindy
one of the positive points of the game is that you're switching between gameplay between farming/dungeon/fishing/socialising,
and basically you can completely ignore one of these aspects of you wanted to

if anyone wants to talk more or discuss waifus, I'm open to it

>>174469837
What's this? Is it fun or comfy?

>>174469997
>don't expect virgins
FUCKING
DROPPED
Used goods are for losers and Licorice is mah waifu.

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I'm getting so hyped up for ESA2 I want to play ESA1 again

>>174470118
>Big-ass forests
>Shallow rivers
>Varying terrain
>You drive a big vehicle

That's basically it.
It's a simulator, but focuses on realistic physics between you and the ground instead of vehicle controls.
It is the sort of game a trucker plays after he's retired and feels nostalgic.

It is pure comfy.

>>174470425
Mmm, I'll pass then. I don't like driving, I'd rather have a comfy walking simulator like The Long Dark.

>>174470425
>It is the sort of game a trucker plays after he's retired and feels nostalgic.
Doesn't he have euro truck simulator every year for that

>>174469837
spintires is pretty good
played it pirated for a few hours, if you got spare I could get it

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>>174471015
https://www.humblebundle.com/gift?key=ah2Zs7sheh4YF3H2

>>174436773
Why do people have such a hard on for shotguns anyway? Is this some redneck thing? Don't get me wrong, more weapon types is cool and all, but I just don't get what's so great about shotguns that there are people for whom no shotguns is a deal-breaker or at least a massive letdown. Why do shotguns have such an avid fanbase and not, say, grenade launchers?

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>>174472376
most games i can think of have shotguns as really good weapons, or if not amazing good and reliable

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>>174436259
anyone here wanna talk about rain world

>>174472548
I think I killed more people with that gun than I did with the flamethrower.

>>174472548
Yeah, okay, but Underrail already has sniper and assault rifles as great, very reliable weapons. SMGs are also really good. Energy a chemical pistols cover the gimmick niche. And pistols... they exist. Yet until shotguns were announced there always were people who kept asking for it. Why not combat drones? Or something ridiculously gimmick like a gun that scrambles? Or LAWs? God knows I could use one against Dreadnaughts.

Basically, if the appeal is that they are good and reliable, anything should be just as good as long as they fulfill these two criteria, no?

Slime Rancher and Hard West for $13, is there any reason I should pass on this?

>>174474171
Slime Rancher is in Early Access, and Hard West is trash.

There, I gave you two reason to pass on them. They're shit reasons by the way. Get them.

>>174474171
no, slime rancher is a very good time

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>>174472376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY2lWmZN5TQ

Theyre just intrinsically fun, whether its in real life, film, or games. In most action games shotguns are the most satisfying weapon 9 times out of 10. Its hard to fuck up.

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>>174472376
I think it mostly comes from FPS games

As >>174472548 said, shotguns are usually very good, and they also often fill a niche for "up close and personal" high mobility gameplay
For example, in DooM 2 double barreled shotgun deals twice more damage than a rocket launcher

>>174474361
How bad is Hard West? I love westerns, is the setting and aesthetic enough for me to power through RNG and cruddy gameplay?

>>174474645
I remember the shotgun in Painkiller being a very versatile weapon with plenty of ammo, decent damage, amazing range.

And then the expansion arrived and nerfed it massively until it could barely graze a demon's skin at point blank.

>>174474171
I've been waiting for a reason to get slime rancher for years and this is as good as any

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What is a good mod I can look at to see how making a shooting familiar works?

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no one wants to discuss waifus
she is really starting to get to me

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>>174479019
all of the default people look pretty bad

harvest moon had better looking waifus, even

>>174479767
Just use a portrait mod, there's a shitload of them that fit the style of the game. Or you can make them shitty anime styles or even furries.

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>>174480095
There's even pedobait. What a variety.

>>174480669
You say that like it's a bad thing

>>174472675
I'm still at the Shaded Citadel, is 5pebbles as bad as everyone says...?

>>174484719
Death awaits ye, all who enter here.
T. Me.
You'll love the scissor birds tho.

>>174485068
Did they ever hint/explain what's the deal with those scissor birds? I'm really curious as to what their deal is.

>>174485405
I never found anything. But they are purely mechanical so they're one of 3 things.
1. 5Pebbles' personal playthings to just watch run the track when he needs a break from his life's work.
2. Guardians of the Archives placed there to protect the information from intruders.
3. Another of 5Pebbles' experiments, like the blue tentacle demons, but a purely mechanical one that he threw out when he was done.

>>174485753
Damn. This planet is pretty fucked up the deeper you look into it, and that's saying something considered how the starting areas are like.
I thought they also appeared in another area?

>>174486221
Oh, do they?

>>174486467
Well of course I only like halfway through, but I think I heard they might appear on the Subterranean?

>>174486748
They can be spawned in Outskirts via dev tools but not anywhere further

Also who here has a lizard friend?

>>174486831
How do you deal with the grief when they inevitably get dragged away by vultures?

>>174436259

Can anyone tell me about Flinthook?

It looks super fucking fun and I'll probably get it anyway but I always like hearing opinions from here.

>>174454490

Yooka is great. i am taking prelims so I had to take a hiatus, but I've got about 60 pagies and I haven't even unlocked the 4th world yet. Does an absolutely wonderful job of capturing that Banjo Kazooie feel, which is exactly what I wanted as a backer.

If you liked Banjo (REALLY liked Banjo, not just as a 10 year old) then you'll like it.

>>174487050
Get a cute blind one from the Citadel where there are 0 vultures

>>174488557
Will it protect me from spider balls?

>>174488648
Yes my best friend killed one to save me

>>174488739
SOLD
Time to spear me a rat

>>174488910
There's a very good area to tame one near the shelter right before the entrance to the Memory Crypts. Literally one screen above that shelter has at least one lizard and a screen above THAT room always has at least 3 light possums

>>174489038
Now the only problem is getting them through those damn carnivorous plants...

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>>174489193
no plants where that shelter is, its above the waterway entrance to where they live.

The shelter is at the bottom of the room with a pole leading to an entrance above it

>>174489038
You have to feed a possum to a lizard to befriend it?
The possums are cute though.

>>174479767
>>174480095
I find the default portraits to be very good
choosing between Hayley, Leah and Penny

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>>174490087
yep, but sacrifices must be made. What have the possums ever done for you?

also the possums are fast and the lizard's blind so he misses sometimes. If they're dead he'll walk over them sometimes too. I fed him about 5 times over the course of 2 days before he didn't want to eat me anymore

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Final Station is on sale, for only 5 bucks.

Its a pretty good game, so if you're interested now is a good time to grab it.

>>174490973
What if I'm not interested?

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Are orchards a good investment?

I spent around 80k (nearly as much as I made farming in my first year) to buy fruit trees for the upcoming spring.

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http://entibo.fr/isaac/
Cool site for helping with spawning enities in isaac

>>174497457
>Krampus
Let's fuck with the lasers on him and his head for no good reason.

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>>174497601
>Krampus
Good
>He can rotate now
Yea alright that is okay
>Also he can shoot diagonal now
That is when they went too far

>>174498252
Nice wing ya got there.
Does it give you wings if you carry 2 of them through use of extra Trinket space?

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>>174498397
I want it to stop Krampus from appearing and make devil deals always have a deal in them but apparently you can't really do that with the way modding works so I'm looking into if I can have it kill Krampus when you enter his room and spawn two deals. Maybe turn them into a statue. It is his right wing clipped so it isn't there in the statue. I have a horn sprite that would need reworking as an alternative to the wing also.

>>174498252
I'd be fine if his head could do diagonals, but the random spins are pretty bullshit. There are so many needless changes to items it's baffling. They even fucked with Abel and he was already pretty shit to begin with.

>>174498569
>make devil deals always have a deal
You're a saint.

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>>174498675
turning or diagonal would be fine
just not both

That effect is perfect for a trinket level effect just like rib of greed. It was the first idea I had for a mod after the announcement of modding support. I'm not sure if I should try and do it this hacky way or wait and see if they add in the ability to edit room pools with an item.

Here is the old wing sprite before I made it smaller.

Anybody play Orcs Must Die! ? It was good fun. Did not play the sequel. Anyway.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/427270/

New entry is out, seems to be multiplayer focused. Downloading now.

>>174499342
Isn't that the shitty moba.

>>174499495
No, dude 3D tower defense.

>>174499342 (You)
also F2P, released yesterday

>>174499612
Yea it's the moba. It's been out in beta for a few years.

It still has the single player mode in it though, iirc, so it's not completely awful I supppose.

>>174499850
There's no moba here friend. Just competitive or co-op tower defense. There's like 15 different player characters with different skills so maybe that's where you got confused.

It's not very good regardless.

Finally finished it!
It has been a wild ride.
Please enjoy it.

https://selfish-dream.itch.io/unkindled-serenity

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>Day 12
>Have stablized from the shitshow that was pic related
>have a puffy vest, some meat, an alchemy engine
>feels fuckin good because I've been dying on the first world a shitload
>go to burn a tree for some charcoal
>even though I'm not even fucking close to the tree, I get lit on fire for one tick of damage and die instantly because my health was so low (it wasn't even that fucking low, like I had just eaten)

jesus christ this game is so fucking difficult. And not even like, oh the combat is hard it's like I spent fucking 30 minutes mapping an area the coast of an area that had absolutely nothing in it

I'm almost tempted to just spawn in the items I had because seriously man, I can't keep fucking doing this

>>174503358
Don't you tell me what to do.

>>174495152
>meanwhile I'm growing radish

>>174503892
What the hell is that lava lamp on the left?
Also, you change the world's options to make gold and beefalos common, if you really have issues with that.

>>174495152
trees are much more efficient in greenhouses since they fruit all year.

>>174506825
>What the hell is that lava lamp on the left?
You probably mean Chester? It's a portable chest that follows an eye a on stick item.

>>174506825
it's one of McTusk's hounds opening his mouth to bite chester, just looks weird from the front

Also this is adventure mode I'm pretty sure beefalo spawns and all that can't affect it

>>174507560
I think he means the thing to the right of that.
And I think it's a Hound in the middle of attacking chester.

>>174507563
Oh, it's a hound. Now that you see it, it looks like a mouth indeed.

>>174473447
> And pistols... they exist
Are you shitting on pistols? They are great secondary weapons and decent enough on their own.

+7 initative from gunslinger is great. It's easy to reach 40+ initative on pistol builds with Paranoia which virtually guarantees you wil always act first. As a secondary wepaon it's still a great way to boost your initative to 30 if you can.

You can even abuse exiting the zone since the -10 penalty leaves you with 30, which is still enough to act first before everyone else. I easily cleared Fort Apogee on pistol build that way.

No STR/skill requirement and close range/move penalties means they will always work and hit reliably regardless of debuffs. Snipers and AR (wspecially metal armor AR) builds can get fucked hard by multiple stacks of crippling strike or intimtidation from mutants/Carnifex.

Neo Luger with laser sight is by far the best way to apply Kneecap Shot since it has +15% precision bonus and lack of penalties regardless of situation I mentioned before.

Execute crits are devastating and pistols can stack tons of both critcal damage and chance.

>>174508636
What's wrong with shitting on pistols?

>>174511398
It's unhygienic.

>>174511781
Bandits in Chicago used to rub garlic over their bullets, so that the wounds would infect. Shitting on a pistol will make it deadlier.

>>174512085
Nah, shittting on the bullets might make it deadlier.

Shitting on the pistol will only make it more unhygienic, slippery and prone to malfunctions.

>>174512406
Only if you shit on the chamber or on the hammer. If you shit on the cannon, it's fine.

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>serious discussion about shitting on your gun
Seek help.

>>174512579
>2017
>doesn't shit on his gun to make it deadlier and make sure nobody will try to steal it

>>174512510
>>174512406
I think the quality of the shit matters too. What did you eat beforehand? Did you purposely cultivate a bacterial bonanza in your tummy? How sticky is the stuff?

>>174512798
If you want to shit on your gun, you should avoid vegetables, they make your shit hard, so it won't stick to your gun.
Also avoid milk, it makes your shit too liquid.

To shit on your gun, you need to shit the exact sticky poo that will stick to your gun.

>>174512510
Well it's still going to be unhygenic. You might get infected while sligshotting the slide if you have a cut on your hands for some reason.

Slingshotting the slide will also be a lot more difficult if it's covered in slippery shit. The slide cuts are going to be ineffective if they are full of shit.

It might also eventually find its way into the slide rails and jam the slide.

If the grip is covered in shit it's going to hurt ergonomics quite a lot.

Stick to shitting on bullets only.

>>174513342
>WE ARE NOT CAVEMEN
>WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY
Reminds me of ARK, where you can have advanced firearms, be taming velociraptors, wear a full suit, and yet still be petty by shitting in someone else's house.

>>174490973
i played the first chapter or two of the final station
it was kind of annoying, to be honest

>>174503358
Good job, hopefully it was enlightening.

>>174495152
how do you take pictures like that?
and btw let's talk efficient farm designs?

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>/indie/ - Indie & Obscure Games and Defecating on Firearms General

>>174517996
Hey, shitting is serious business. It can really mess you up.
Plus it was really used by hunters to kill animals.

Indies!

>mfw I like the music in Castle Crashers but I find the gameplay absolutely atrocious

>>174520918
yeah, I don't like anything from that team

>>174521247
I don't really know to think about their games. They have interesting gameplay, fun stories and really good music, but the games themselves are flawed.
Castle Crashers quickly turns into button mashing and grinding, Battleblock Theater sometimes has collision issues because of the way the blocks are drawn, and I heard that Pit People was also very grindy.

>>174520918
I liked that game quite a lot. I have a thing for beatemups and stat grinding I guess.

>>174521837
I like optimizing my stats, but enemies have so many HP I found it frustrating.

>>174521363
That is Saira, right?
Really awesome game by Niflas I gladly would ahve paid money for but it was already free by the time I looked at their games.

I liked how you could listen to radio during the space travel to make the time shorter.

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Did he have a point?

>>174522116
No.

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>>174479767
>Elliott
>Dat hair
>Dat jawline
He's like the 'ridiculously fabulous' joke character in cartoons, who everyone finds handsome

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>>174498252
My main gripe is that like the Angels he can do whichever direction he wants (diagonal or straight) BUT unlike the Angels, there's no indication OR pattern to tell you which he's going to do.
The Angels have different animations and a longer start-up to clearly show which they'll do, making them actually easier to prepare for, and they don't even rotate!

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>>174479767
>>174524020
>Barber: What do you want bruh?
>Sam: Gimme dat SSJ2 Gohan looks from the Buu saga!
>Barber: Say no more senpai!

indies are good

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>mfw wanted to talk about After The Empire with /civ4xg/
>they're too busy with Stellaris
S... So, After The Empire. It's a game.

>>174524020
>still no game allowing you to woo the Handsome Jack

>>174528720
What's with the coloured field seperation on the minimap?

>>174529464
So of these are borders. Others are trade lanes.

>>174528720
>woo the Handsome Jack
I'd prefer a Masked John.

>Choose BoI item
>You have now been told to redesign its purpose entirely
>Like, no similarity to old use at all
>wat do

For example:
>Monkey's Paw
>Still trinket
>No 'active' effect, only activates on death
>When this happens, you get resurrected
>Current floor resets, you return to start
>Character loses all current pickups
>However, all pickups you currently have (i.e. not activated items you've had then dropped at some point) are placed on podiums in the beginning room
>All put in 'spiral' pattern from center of room outwards, so if too many pickups to put in one room, the last ones are lost
>Works three times, Paw disappears on last use
So you're saved from death, but if you were being a cheeky cunt with the shops then you'll lose any good ones you picked up last and the floor/boss is reset. Empty rooms have a lot of space so it isn't too harsh.

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>tfw you implement a save feature to your rougelite
>tfw suddenly everybody's on your dick 24/7

"Pimp pimp hurray, I'm here to save the day!"

>>174531287
what game

>be playing Harvest Moon
>you can woo a girl, have kids, but not actually do to the thing
I know Nintendo's games are mainly intended for kids, but I find it a little frustrating that after wooing a girl for three years, you don't get to do some really kinky sex involving a paddle, a tube of lube, and a ballgag.

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>>174531549
>Dominaupdate.png

>>174532334
Don't play on any console if you want sex..
Same rason why vr on consoles is fucking retarded and crippled since no one can do the sex that 99% of the vr users want.

>>174531287
Are games long? Saving is a rather necessary feature for games like gungeon where runs are frequently an hour, as opposed to NT where runs are like 10 minutes or 20 tops if you're good.

actually probably more than 20, but still not that much

>>174532645
My Nuclear Throne games never lasted more than 5 minutes because I ALWAYS forget that the snipers explode when killed.

>>174533808
yea my runs usually don't make it to 15, but if you're pretty good at the game you can get farther

~11/12 minutes seems to be a somewhat normal time to get to the throne and then there's all the shit post loop things start to slow down

>>174517996
Somehow, even our literal shitposting is very friendly. /indie/ is a magical place.

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>>174517996
>Live on the edge of a nearly-rural town
>Farmer sometimes spreads shit on some fields a short distance away
>If wind is going the wrong way, get some days where entire area just smells of shit

>>174535374
>mfw I remember when a guy brought his extended family for two weeks
>we could hear them protesting that it smelled like shit
>one day, they stopped the farmer when he arrived
>asked him to stop putting shit on his field
>didn't hear the whole thing, but they were apparently polite about "stop using fertilizers and have them growing eco-friendly"
>he came every day until they left to put more fresh, smelly shit
>instead of being the nose-friendly cow shit, it was pig shit
>the worst kind of shit

>>174535575
Holy kek.

>>174535575
>instead of being the nose-friendly cow shit, it was pig shit

I didn't even know there were different levels of shit smell. A magical world of shit education is unfolding before me. This thread is making shit come alive.

>>174536042
>He's never noticed the varying degrees of rank disgust one can smell in a public restroom depending on who shit in it and when

>>174536042
Dude, there are various level of shit.
For animals, horse shit is okay, cow shit is smelly and liquid, pig shit is a stench, and chicken shit is the worst.
Source : I grew up on a farm and I graduated in a horticultural school.

For humans, it differs if they have ulcers or what they eat.

Sewage treatment plants.

>>174535575
>Stop using fertilizers and have them grow eco-friendy

How the fuck isn't natural fucking fertilizer eco friendly? Its literally the exact way its done in nature. Do they think animals just package their shit up and throw it into space in the wild?

>>174536616
I think they were just ignorant. They believed that organic farming meant no fertilizers at all.
We laughed at them a lot.

>>174535575
So at the end of the day, who was the dipshit in that situation?

>>174536616
And this. Only if it was some specific stuff that has to be bought for GMO crops.

>>174536823
They all were.
Both the guy who put shit everywhere, and the bobos who asked him politely but insisted that he did things as they wanted.
They blocked the road, you know? All three of them, with their kid, they walked on the road and stepped in front of his tractor, forcing him to stop.

How's Underrail?

I mean, what kind of game is it? Is it turn based? Real-time based?

>>174538596
It is Undertale but with trains

>>174538596
Turn based.

Imagine Fallout 1/2 but with much better combat, cooldown-based abilites and more than a dozen of unique playstyles.

The setting is kinda like a crossover between Fallout and Metro 2033 but not really, it's pretty unique. Obviously takes inspiration from System Shock as well.

>>174538745
All interest dropped.

>>174538779
>better combat than Fallout
It's possible? I have fond memories of playing Fallout. Even if my habits of trying to save up on Stimpack got me in trouble a lot.
I should reinstall Fallout 2 one day and try to finish it.

How's the melee/unarmed combat in Underrail? Is it satisfying?

>>174538745
>It is Undertale but with trains
I will spare ALL the trains.

Brb reinstalling Railroad Tycoon 3.

What are some games I can play with and manipulate shit in?
I think World of Goo fits the theme.

>>174539707
Define manipulate.

>>174539007
>It's possible? I have fond memories of playing Fallout.
Yes of course because nostalgia is an ugly bitch.

>>174539818
Put it into a new way it flows but I guess methaphorical pieces of shit to manipulate is good too.

>>174539840
Hey, I'm serious. When I discovered that you could change attacks by right clicking on it, my mind was blown.

>>174539007
>It's possible?
Definitely.

Don't get me wrong I like Fallout 1/2 just as much as the next guy but the combat system is extremaly simplistic and a ton of things is not even viable. All gun builds play pretty much the same, the only difference is whether you use bursts or not and whether yoy took Fast Shot or not. Both unarmed and melee play pretty much the same and don't give you many options. Grenades are not viable at all and generally a waste of time. Low luck runs are one of the only unique things Fallout combat has. Aimed shots get old after a while once the eye spam becomes viable.

It's rough around the edges and simple. Which is not necessarily bad, but it is ho it is.

>How's the melee/unarmed combat in Underrail? Is it satisfying?
Everything is really, there is not a single playstyle in Underrail that is not viable or not satisfying.

With melee, you can go for:
>DEX based sneaky knife user that cuts throats from stealth and shanks people up with a lot of attack per turn after that or throws a flashbang to blind enemies and re-stealth

>STR based mobile sledgehammer user in light armor who easily closes in on enemies and fucks them up with a few powerful hits

>STR based sledgehammer in metal armor with little mobility but tons of survivability
The last one is kinda harder to paly though.

With unarmed you can go for:
>DEX based using light gloves and getting as many attack per turn as possible

>STR based using heavy metal gloves and getting tons of bonus damage

>psi monks, generally like DEX based unarmed but also using psi abilites to augment their unarmed damage and give themselves more options

>>174539007
>I have fond memories of playing Fallout

Then say no more senpai, it's 50% off on GOG anyway: https://www.gog.com/game/underrail Beware though, it's mostly one (otherwise very competent) dude's project for CRPG veterans who's looking for challenge and don't need hand-holding.

>>174537364
>They blocked the road, you know? All three of them, with their kid, they walked on the road and stepped in front of his tractor, forcing him to stop.

That just settled for me, I wouldn't be surprised if he unloaded the shit straight on them. I would have felt sorry for the wasted shit though.

>>174540115
I'd kinda like to try an iron knuckle run. I did that for my New Vegas run, it was a lot of fun.
I FALCON PUNCH'd through everything.

>>174540474
Then I'm going.

I think I'm bad at slime rancher.

>>174542114
How can you be bad at it? It's extremely easy.

Tell me more. What are you doing? What's your problem?

>>174542184
I mean yea it's easy, but I'm just going really slowly through the game (i think) and probably doing things horribly inoptimally.

>>174542285
I guess so. Last time I played, I got super rich way too quickly and ended up getting bored once I hit the workshop.

Protip : mix the normal slime (the pink one) with whatever uranium/ore slime you captured to make them easier to feed.

>>174542435
do you mean the rock ones? I have some of those

I haven't gone to any of the extra areas yet, so I only have the normal one, the cat, the rock, and the night time one

>>174542569
You have rock slime, and rare rock slimes. They give different stuffs.

Or you can mix them with tabbies (the cats slime) once you have a chicken production running. They give double the splurt.

Oh I dont know if anyone plays Starsector here, but the new update just hit.

>>174542723
yea i know how the big ones (i don't remember their names) work

is it better to have a ton of normal ones or less of the bigger ones, because the big ones take up a lot of space and can jump out even with higher walls

>>174542845
I prefer bigger ones, because they're easier to feed. Even if you mix them with the pink slime who have a small-value splurt, it refunds by them being easier to feed and keep alive.

Through I don't know if they patched it or not, but it was really easy to abuse back then. You would pick an uranium slime, mix it with a pink slime, and then feed them whatever you had and gather all the uranium, since pink slime eats everything.

>>174542114
There's not really much to be good at in slime rancher
It's just taking care of goldfish that poop expensive materials
The cheap pen upgrades take most of the hassle out of it and even automate interaction
Literally all you should be doing is building up shit to explore and murder the key dispensers, that's the entire goal of the game

>>174543107
i murdered one of them

>>174543238
You can't kill anything in that game.

Amnesia Fortnight with Doublefine is making progress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=575mAXrDOpQ
>I have no idea is still looking like shit
>Kiln is already looking bretty gud

>>174543723
>Literally all you should be doing is building up shit to explore and murder the key dispensers
you feed it until it explodes
plus you can throw them into the incenerator or off a ledge

you kill the tar things too

>>174543238
You need to get several of them
The starting area branches out into two unlockable areas, and if the incomprehensible MC Esher environments don't make you kill yourself those two areas converge into a third area, and once inside you can get the only slimes in the game that are a challenge to take care of(because they completely bypass the OP containment, great game design)
And then instead of taking care of those slimes you can give up and wait for the next update because that's all there is to do in the game and building up more money beyond that is meaningless

>>174543798
what area should i unlock first

>>174543772
It doesn't explode, it just gives birth.
Plus the ocean is explained as being a giant slime itself.
The tars are just cleaned.

What kind of monster actually uses the incinerator?

>>174543903
Doesn't really matter, they have different slimes but there's nothing that really makes any slimes better than others outside of how expensive their poop is

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>>174544084
I did for the achievement.

>>174544084
>giving birth
No anon, you feed it until it's stomach bursts into treats and small asexually produced copies of itself
That slim is dead, possibly split up into a bunch of philosophical zombies at best

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>>174544213
Monster!
Dickless!
Scrub!
Achievement whore!
Sodomite!

>>174544389
That's not death.

>>174544489
That's totally death
You even said it gave birth, which would make it even more dead than what I'm proposing

>>174544597
It would be death if it exploded into nothingness. The fact that it explodes into other slimes just means it clones itself.

>>174544691
clones means copies
copies means not the original
ergo there's a bunch of drowned hugh jackmans buried under your happy chore simulator

>>174544954
What if not all of them are clones?

>>174544691
Nah m8, it's death.

It's like saying people don't die because our corpses will sustain and eventually give birth to other creatures. The corpse is still dead.

>>174545062
;_;
I'm out of ideas...

>>174545024
Best case scenario each babby slime has a small chunk of the original's mind
It's like some sort of weird reverse ship of theseus
Saying it's still alive would be about the same as saying someone's still alive because they live on in your memories

>>174545062
>>174545024
>>174544954

It could just be that it explosively divides its extra biomass into a bunch of smaller slimes, while sizing down to one of those ordinary slimes.

>>174545665
But are you really living if you're not thicc

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I've got meat for days thanks to Beefalo, but not a lot of ways to restore health.

There's not enough gold to make an alchemy engine, so I can't make a tent or anything to recover it. Permanent winter means all the ponds are frozen over.

And I need to lower my sanity to 30 to get past the Obelisks, but with how low my health is juggling that and shadow monsters might mean I do

what do /indie/

>>174547997
Try to avoid eating the beefaloos. It spawns Krampus, and it means less manure.
>permanent winter
Okay, nevermind, you can't use farms.
I'd say to use mushrooms. They allow you to easily manipulate your sanity.

Otherwise, try to gather grass, you can make a bed roll with it. If I remember right, it gives you half of your sanity and a lot of health.

>>174480669
Only the males are cute here

am i missing something, i bought access to the mines or whatever and there's like an extra small area to go around in but I'm not seeing any new slimes and just ended up back at the ranch

>>174549360
There are doors that don't actually lead anywhere new and are just shortcuts
u got prankd kiddo

>>174524020
He and all those characters are definitely based on that guy that was on the cover art of dozens of romance novels, Fabio, which fits with his character.

http://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/221/

>>174549503
so the actual progress is feeding chickens to the gordo and the other things are just....nothing?

Any lets players that can give me the /indie/ GFE

>>174549602
Hey now, don't get sad
Most of the gordos are also useless shortcuts and don't actually drop keys
And you don't know which are which unless you look them up
So cheer up buttercup, you've got hours of "engaging" "thoughtful" "gameplay" ahead of you- welcome to slime rancher, where the progression is made up and the slimes don't matter

>>174549724
>>>/soc/

>>174550004
i'm just looking for the other species of slime

i know there's not a ton of gameplay but so far I've seen nothing outside of the "starting" area

there /are/ other areas right? I've seen news posts of at least like 3 new areas but so far "the grotto" doesn't look like an actual new area

>>174550130
Oh you meant the farm expansions
Yeah no you have to feed gordos to get keys and then open doors you find out in the wilds

>>174522116
nope. He's just a broken guy. Everything he did only slightly accelerated the world's end, and his Master Plan amounted to "interfere with the saving the world".

For all he masterminded, his life mattered little. Except at the end.

>>174548197
I can't really afford to worry about Krampus. Does your naughtiness level carry between worlds though?

I'll try a bedroll and bring some jerky and beef stew to use once I'm on the other side of the Obelisk. I'll probs hammer everything down to make a new base

>>174550341
well i fed the cat gordo and he just sent me to some place to buy a 5k plot

where am i supposed to go to get new slimes

>>174553159
NO
I just checked, the bedroll does NOT restore your health, only your sanity. And it drains like 50% of your hunger.

>>174553407
doesn't matter died anyway trying to kill some tallbirds because I fucked up the timing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think I have to accept I am literally never going to finish adventure mode. Taking two and a half hours to get halfway through the first world only to die so easily is just too much man

>>174547997
Jerky is pretty good for healing and blue mushrooms give health. Beyond that you're fucked.
20 jerky is a good item to carry into a new world because it does it all.

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1. what chests on the first floor do you open? blue and up? green and up? Do you just destroy brown chests usually?

2. What's the best thing to purchase at the shop? Keys? Weapons? Items?

3. Is it better to kill the boss with your starting pistol, do you get a better weapon out of it than you could in chests/shops on the first floor?

4.If you don't flawless the first boss, is it better to just restart?

>>174554329
1. Depends, usually blue and up, or oubilette
2. Keys are good and of course weapons/items vary item by item
3. If you aren't playing pilot, if you want. I don't remember how boss drops work but I think it's just random
4. Nah it's fine enough

THE DEFEAT OF RUSSIA IN THE EAST

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Anyone been playing a fun clicker lately?

>>174554565
alright thanks man. I can always beat the boss with my starting pistol but I find all of them minus vulcan raven way too hard to flawless. I even find it easy to flawless all the floor 3 bosses. Just not the floor 1 bosses they seem so difficult compared to floor 2 and 3. I should probably start picking up weapons on floor 1

>>174555112
yea floor 1 bosses are easy, and gatling gull is honestly the most annoying to perfect because of the tracking

>>174555516
>floor 1 bosses are easy
Really? I find them more difficult than floor 2 and 3 bosses. (probably because I actually have weapons by then)

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>"whatchu want"
>"gimme an eternal autumn so I can take it easy"
>"gotcha famalam"
YOU FUCKING LIAR

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>>174459470
wait there was another game in the lisa universe?

Also how the fuck do I get this spidermoose to actually go where I want to goddamnit I want that red pebble.

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>really want to like Don't Starve
>keep fucking dying so much in adventure mode can barely enjoy the game

Seriously sucks so hard to get 4-5 hours into it, die, and have to restart the entire thing from the beginning.

At this point I'm considering just restarting as an OP character like Wigfrid and try again because of her battle helm, there's rarely healing in adventure mode so you just get whittled down over days.

>>174559281
You don't need to do the Adventure mode, you know?

Or you can just use a mod that makes it easy as fuck. Like the regeneration mod.

>>174436259
http://steamcommunity.com/id/SuccinctAndPunchy/recommended/601810/
My review of Electric Jester

>>174560142
I feel like I can't/shouldn't do the base game before completing adventure mode

I dunno, maybe I will just install something like the regeneration mode. It would help a lot with a lot of the downtime in adventure mode like waiting for night to pass or your body to heat up during the winter levels

>>174561475
>I feel like I can't/shouldn't do the base game before completing adventure mode
It's probably useless, but I'll say it anyway : you're doing it wrong.

You're supposed to try adventure mode AFTER you know your way around sandbox.

>>174559281
dumb frog poster

>>174561473
>developer responded in a butthurt fashion
Nicely done.
When is Freedom Planet 2?

>>174562995
What the fuck.

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>>174562852

>>174562995
January 28 2018

Allright this is my last bump before I go to bed, you better behave /indie/

>>174566734
You're not the boss of me.

>>174550103
That the opposite of /soc/ though, maybe /r9k/?

>>174561473
Are you JustSomeAnon?

>>174567618
We are all anons here.

I am so bad at Rain World. Controls feel awkward to me. Jumping or moving to the correct vent is hard enough without enemies

>>174472376
It is to give a high dmg low rpm alternative without the precision and range of a rifle, while the spread still making it useful at short range. It just fills a specific role, that's all.

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>really enjoying Flint Hook
>now want to dive into Cosmic Star Heroine cause of that Giant Bomb QL

I thought 2015/2016 were great years for smaller titles, but this year has been nothing but constant bangers.

>>174569394
Agreed. This has been an awesome gaming year in general.

>>174568262
Are you using the gamepad or keyboard?

>>174451947
ow do i get me game up there?

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does the dedication achievement still require 31 dailies in a row? I heard it was changed to just 31 in general

>>174438776
Isn't unarmed the best melee in the game anyway? It doesn't seem that odd that having 2 range would be excessive.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't headshots actually BAD in Battle Brothers? You get no multiplier for breaking through armor, which makes up the vast majority of an enemy's EHP, and the head gets more armor than the body. On top of that, the head is harder to hit in general. Only against (rare) enemies with no head armor is hitting the head actually beneficial, in most cases it just means your attack gets absorbed by an entirely different, more efficient HP pool.

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Does anyone have a download link for the old RPG maker game Ghosts of Aliens by Swordofkings128? All I'm finding for it are dead links.

>>174584105
I checked /rpgmg/'s archive but it's not there so can't help you, sorry

i need a good character creation guide for underrail, anyone got one?

>>174571196
>A Hat in Time will ship this year
>Sixense STEM will ship out this year

>>174583124
The head is over a third of the battle brother's body, how hard could it be to hit?

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I don't like The Leg.

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Why haven't you contributed to your favorite indie game's wiki?

Fucking lazy assholes.

>>174591367
That girl didn't deserve that.

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Why haven't you developed a great indie game on your own?

Fucking lazy assholes.

>>174593201
But I have.
Oh you said great.
Oops.

>>174593428
Great is subjective, you don't have to be Notch.

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My hard drive died, and before I had a chance to dump my accumulated Buddys and other collected fanarts at the indie game booru too. My pain can only be expressed with this Tumblr Buddy. pls share some good Buddy arts.

I got to start Pointless and Arkantos all over again too, fuck!

>>174438919

I'm enjoying Battle Bros a lot, but have never played Bastard Bonds, what's wrong with it?

>>174443810
>Also, what way should I go on the map to get more bandit thugs and less raiders/undead/orcs?

I think bandits and brigands tend to hang out near roads, in order to attack caravans.

You also don't need to charge right into battle. If your guys are fast, you can order them to wait, and the melee enemies will head towards you, allowing the guys who waited to now go forward and attack.

Pay attention to weapon types. Skellys are resistant to daggers, spears, and bows, so if you're doing a mission where you expect them, give you guys some other weapons (make sure to keep spare weapons on hand.)

In early game, just hire the cheap shitters. A bunch of regular joes can be better than a handful of pros, because surrounding an enemy both has a chance to weaken his morale (making him easier to fight) as well as increase the accuracy of your melee attacks against him.)

>>174459470

Is that a new fan game?

>>174503892

bookmarked to play later

>>174593540
>Notch
>Great
Getting a lucky break doesn't make your games great

>>174593943
But you can't deny that Minecraft is objectively the most successful (indie) game ever.

>>174594046
That doesn't make it a great game, it just makes it a great product
And it got that way not through any kind of merit, but because it happened at the right place and time to get big