/indie/ - Indie and Obscure Games General

>>173962885
Shit OP image

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>>173962885

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>>173962947
Thank you.

>>173963351
What is that supposed to be?

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>page 9

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>>173963590
Pixelart of the 9th peisode of kemono friends.
t already go a fangame but that looks way too edgy for me.

>>173966623
Ha, Kemono. Isn't that the anime with the lesbian who does bestiality with animals that she imagines as humans or something?

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>>173966697
You must be thinking of something else.

>>173966828
I dunno, the one doujinshi I read about it was pretty straightforward.

I always knew servals were huge perverts.

Anybody had issues with XB1 Wireless pads under the Creators Update for W10?

Cant keep it connected.

>>173967078
I use wired and don't have that creator update yet. Try plugging it in?

>>173962885
What is that image from?

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>>173968915
It's "Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka?"

A web novel that got adapted in a manga. It's intended to be another deconstruction of the "NEET gamer find himself reincarnated in a RPG world and make everyone his bitch" fad. The writing is decent, the translations are pretty shitty, and the manga makes the spider way too cute as opposed to the disgusting monster she is in the novel.

>>173969434
Its too cute.
I cant resist.

>>173969998
You fool. That's exactly how that spider captures her victims (readers) : by being adorable and helping you fight your arachnophobia.

It almost worked for me.

>>173969434
It reminds me of Hollow Knight, kinda

>>173970290
Hollow Knight? The one in >>173962947 ?

What is it even about? Just don't tell me it's 2D Dark Souls, I already tried Salt and Sanctuary and it was shit.

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>>173970412
>2D Dark Souls
Heh, no, I wouldn't say those two are comparable at all (aside from a few elements here and there in the settings).
It's a cute and immensely melancholic metroidvania that features bugs and a lot of mystery. Ever played Aquaria? Very much like it, except more melancholia.

It's challenging and fun. Has a few flaws here and there, but considering how little money the Kickstarter needed it's crazy impressive.
Give it a go if you like metroidvanias, and if you don't find the price to steep.

>>173970671
I dunno, I loved the Metroid Prime games, but the last time I played a "challenging" game, it was Furi. My butt hasn't recovered yet.

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>>173970671
Positively mobadis.

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>>173970730
Oh, Metroid Prime actually isn't a "metroidvania" (despite the title. ..I know it's a bit odd)

A metroidvania is--akin to the classic Metroid and Castlevania games--a platformer with a focus on expansive map exploration and power-ups that change gameplay, enabling access to new areas, which in turn incites backtracking and hunting for secrets and collectibles.
(Hollow Knight is a bit extra heavy on the platform-technical side, though, with certain places demanding very tight control.)

>>173970941
Hey! Heh, you're probably still drawing for /hkg/ aren't you.
I didn't have time to keep up, so I came over to /indie/ instead. Hope /hkg/ is still as cozy as ever

>>173971090
>2nd bit
Actually, I'm just reposting my favorite.
I'm the guy who did the linework and flats for all those Hornet-booty shots.

>>173971090
And Metroid Prime was a platformer with a focus on expansive map exploration and power ups that change gameplay, enabling access to new areas, which in turn incites backtracking and hunting for secrets and collectibles.
And it's in 3D.

>>173971279
Whoo! Well I remember you too, heh

>>173971350
Well, there's no set-in-stone definition, sadly, but if you go by popular connotative usage, most people by far associate it with platformers (as per the classics), but yeah, I guess Metroid Prime meets many of the criteria, yeah

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So I've been looking around for good explanations on why Yooka-Laylee is a bad game and I found this detailed dissection. This gets at the heart of the game's issues

>>173971919
The response to that better be just "Kay."

>>173971919
What kind of fucking maniac would write that much as a reply to a youtube comment

>>173973119
Someone who made an entire video that doesn't mean a single thing because he couldn't be bothered to make sense.

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Post your Isaac playtime and what you have left to do
http://theriebel.de/tboirah/

>>173971919
Holy shit, I didn't think YT could get that big.

>>173976816
293 hours, haven't touched + yet and never will.

>>173976816
I think I'm done with Isaac. + sucks and the games only going to get more bloated.

>thinking that a popular youtuber covering a game will at all make it more popular
Dont forget that when Airscape was covered by JackEpticEye, even though his video got half a million views initially this only generated 20 sales. A mediocre and unappealing game in an oversaturated market will not succeed even with mountains of marketing

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Fuck indies and fuck pixelshit

>>173976816
I got 80 hours which was mostly played while watching streams.
I did all challenges and beat satan/isaac with everyone and then just used SAM to unlock all achivements because I was sick of the game but still feelt the collection urge.

>>173979339
>I had a shit tv so everyone else must have too!

>>173970412
Hollow Knight is literally the best game in that list, Snake Pass comes close.

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>tfw you've been missing Hempuli's streams

Feels bad man

>>173979993
Those aren't just harsh scanlines certain tvs had, man. Those are arcade-machine scanlines. No way around those back in the day, I'm afraid (at least not at first, anyway)

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>>173979993
>arcades used TV screens
Idiot. What emufag numale indie devs think retro games looked like is nothing at all how it looked on anyones TV

>>173970412
Hollow Knight isnt inspired by Dark Souls. Actually is a very uninspired game

>>173982121
You should stay on /pol/ with the retard lingo.

>>173983384
You sound butthurt.

>>173983384
nu
male

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>>173979339
Maybe they know and just don't care.

>>173973332
This. A lot of people are bashing Yooka-Laylee but criticisms are generalized too much because reviewers are trying to summarize a dozen big things wrong with the game in a single review, whereas some people are coming out and elaborating on the specific scenarios that make Yooka-Laylee a failure as a BK successor.

>>173987769
At least that one bothered to write complains that make sense.
There's no point in saying that "it's not the same thing", it's too general and unless you played both games, you won't understand.

>>173987898
that's true. Most of the detailed reviews have been from BK fans and although I get it because I have played BK, other people might not get it

>>173988238
I personally never played it, so the only part from his critic that I understood was when he complained about the logic in the game.

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All this talk of Collectathons and you'd think Poi would get more attention. Its kinda bland and mediocre but it stims all the SM64 sensori

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CiOK0Zir0I

>>173976828
TotalAsscancer and several other ecelebs made a big fuss about how google plus broke youtube since you could put the entire magna carta or declaration of independence in a single comment.

>>173989454
>mfw the very first 3D platformer I played was Sonic 3D Blast
>totally disgusted me from playing 3D platformers until I tried Mario Sunshine on Gamecube

>>173987769
>>173973332
I get the feeling it's the sort of situation Matthewmatosis would enjoy laying out and going through in detail (if he found the game interesting enough to spend time on in the first place, but that's up to him).

>>173989454
Poi's first level literally feels like they ripped the first level of Sunshine and then redesigned it into its own thing. Not necessarily bad, but weird.

>>173989454
Kind of like the look of this. Looks like the level design is focused on 3Dness and everything I liked about Mario Galaxy

>>173971919
Only played the first world but I agree with how the level design so far isnt intuitive.
I played Banjo when I was 7 and could easily figure out where all the NPCs were without thinking hard since the design was that intuitive. In Yooka Laylee I had trouble finding Trouser Snake once I found enough quills and once I found him I had no idea where rextro's arcade or the transformation doctor were.
The mechanic of using pagies to expand unlocked worlds makes this all worse and compromised the level design.
Toybox had the same problem but that was just a testing ground. The final game shouldnt feel like things were just strewn about.

>>173990374
A Hat in Time also copy pasted Sunshine for it's challenge levels

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>>173982121
>When displayed through a grainy, pixelated screen, games don't look the same as their base assets rendered through a high resolution screen.

Gee, ya don't say. Did you know that when you view a movie on a cellphone screen that it isn't as good as on a big screen tv?

Just a little life hack for you.

>>173962885
Anybody got an image of The Batter drinking coffee?

What's /indie/'s take on the original Cave Story?

>>174002881
yeah yeah i like cavern legend

>>174002881
a standout when it was released, still a good game today!

Don't feel bad about paying money for the remake

>>174002881
We indie gamers owe to it.

The original is one of the few *real* modern retro games (it fits on a fucking floppy and runs on a literal toaster), not just a piece of modern bloatware with retro aesthetics.

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Get up /indie/!

It's time to do the funny bone dance

>>174004829
>Remade with popular characters to make it 'relatable'
>Watermarks
>HankHill_jpegquote.mov

What is the Eye of Argon of indie games?

>>174005604
Castle in the Darkness

>>174005604
Undertale

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watch out for spooky

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This game has got some fun-ass synergies.

>>174010278
>fun-ass synergies
Now I kind of want a game with fun ass-synergies

>>174010453
I like pairing Thunderclap with Spicy Curry for a little bit of shock and awe.

>>174007670
>They're back
Oh boy.

>>174007670
>ESA2
Wut?
Is there a timeframe on the sequel, by the way?

Also, how would people rate ESA compared to, say, Axiom Verge (or any metroidvania, really)?

>>174013907
>ESA
Better than Axiom Verge by a good bit.
As a Metroidvania in general, 7/10.

>>174014409
It just seems so simple. For some I have this notion that it's really short, and more like a flash-based game or something.
How long is it, and how much stuff in total is there?

>>173993883
The games werent meant to be played on LCD TV which werent even available for consumers at the time.
Its no different than some indie game dev in 2070 making a retro 3D film thtas entirely two images side by side, ignoring that anyone playing a 3D or VR title would have technology to give them the proper image instead of unwatchable stacked visuals.
You state that things look different on different hardware as if its obvious but it isnt, people seriously think that the games are supposed to look like this and the majority of indie games reflect this.
>>173987706
Then that sucks, but its not surprising since almost none of these nostalgiabait retro games resemble the classics whose coattails they try to ride on in visuals, level design, or audio.
Shovel Knight took small liberties with scrolling backgrounds and increased sound channels, but its an entirely different thing to purposely make shitty graphics and claim its retro when retro games did not look like that at all.

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>>174014737

>>174015530
*a retro 3D game that's

>>174014737
>how long
I've been meaning to get back into it since I never finished it, but this is how long it took me to beat the main game plus quit on finishing the Lab, one of the post-game areas. I got every upgrade, almost every data-log, and killed every main boss.
It's quite enjoyable for the most part and it has some of the best sequence-breaking of any Metroidvania I've played.

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>>174015974
Herp.

>>173979339
1) shit on indies who do pixel art
2) shit on indies who slap a CRT shader onto pixel art
3) 100% of pixel art is "pixelshit"

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>>174015974
>>174016138
Damn.. I know it's stupid to judge a game based on its immediate appearance, but even though i love metroidvanias, something about the graphics just didn't get my fancy.
I'm definitely going to try it out, thanks

>>174016210
I actually rather feel the opposite. Despite being pixelshit, it carries itself really well and conveys ideas well.

>>174016396
That's good to hear. I'll probably start on it right now, in fact.
(Better late than never. Serves me right for being subconsciously prejudgmental, really.)

>>174002881
It was pretty good

It still is pretty good, to be honest
I've played Kero Blaster and Momodora 3 and they were quite bland in comparison to Cave Story

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>watching some guy (TheSparrowsJourney) play through Rain World, because I don't have time to play it
>he doesn't understand any clues or hints at all
>doesn't try stuff out like a proper slugcat
>misses obvious clues
>can miss blatantly obvious stuff on screen for up to ten seconds
>Doesn't know what to do with Moon
>Throws spear at her
>"HUH?"
>Then eats some of her sprites
>"HUH? I don't think it likes it though.."
>Eats the rest of them
>...
>He's not deliberately malicious, just obtuse and a fucking moron
I have never known saltiness like this. Not from any cringy youtuber, nor any other game.
I'm actually swearing aloud in spergy fits now and then. I wonder if it's because of me, or if it's because of Rain World.

>>174005604
Don't know.

Have you ever seen a game where almost every line is an overly-descriptive mess of adjectives that end up making no fucking sense, blatant malapropism, or both?

No really, I want to know if someone unintentionally made a game like that.

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>give up on Sausages puzzle that's some real bullshit
>leave to do something else with game still on
>come back, randomly donk a key, I actually had solved it just before leaving
Okay then.

>>174012716
Theyre not the same as last time. These won't prevent you from charging or dashing

>>174021903
Well, that's actually reassuring. gonna go have some pasta now.

>>174019303
It takes a special brand of stupid to get people like that.

/indie/ is dead. Long live /indie/!

>>174019303
Don't watch DarkSydePhil.
It's worse, and all his "fans" are saying he's just pretending to be retarded.

>>174027010
DSP is playing rainworld?
Shit, if that TheSparrowsJourney guy is bad at it, just how bad is DSP?

>>174027127
Not reainworld, but he tried Furi.
To his credit, he reached the sniper.

>>174027192
Oh, my bad.

>>174015530
You realize that indies doing pixel art aren't trying to accurately recreate the exact display of a CRT, right?

I don't even understand what the fuck you're chimping out about. Seriously, what is your complaint? That every indie game doesn't have a CRT filter over its pixel art?

>>174027247
It was still extremely painful to watch, and I haven't even played Furi yet.

>>174032595
I did. How he managed to go this far while getting his ass kicked by the Australian guy is a mystery.

>>173982237
While I would never dispute this because it'd make me a bald faced liar. Uninspired does not mean shit. It's still one of the best games of the year.

Ripping off half a dozen games is pretty damn forgivable when you churn out a 40 hour masterpiece.

>>173971090
The classic Castlevania games aren't metroidvanias.

>>173970412
>Just don't tell me it's 2D Dark Souls
Imagine if Metroid, Mega Man X, Super Meat Boy, Sim Ant, and Dark Souls had a love child

>What is it even about?
NTR, killing the sun, finding out you're secretly half parsnip, and ghost busting

>>174033264
Even Sim Ant? God that takes me back.

Never understood all the jokes they made.

>>174033362
Yes, even Sim Ant. It is the Dark Souls of Sim Ant ripoffs.

All kidding aside also borrows heavily from the Cthulu Mythos, especially the King in Yellow.

>>174033748
I thought the King in Yellow was more Derleth than Lovecraft? Does that mean have have the nice Cthugha and the mean Hastur?

>>174033827
The final boss is literally a masked sun god that is creating a plague that causes reduction to base instincts, madness, death, and zombification and/or mutation while bringing anyone infected into her thrawl as members of a hivemind subservient to her.

Game also features a tentacled primordial chaos

>>174034908
>masked sun god
I'm sorry, Solaire...

>>174010278

What game is that? Are those princesses player characters, or just support? How many different characters can you play?

>>174027010
>>174027127

I heard his Undertale run was funny because Undertalefags got annoyed that he just mowed down any monster he came across and he made fun of them when they died.

>>174035159
Yeah, but Undertalefags are as cancerous as bronies.

>>174035159
The fuckers donated for some speedrunner to NOT finish Sans off. They deserve any and all anguish for stupid crap like that.

lol DSP jacking off on camera

>>174037713
Has he ever explained that, or does he pretend it never happened? Like he did with all the games he ragequitted, or all the time his stream chat held his hand and explained him what to do?

>>173962885
any indie games where I can play as a monk/unarmed person?

>>174038274
Cataclysm : Dark Days Ahead.

The game is ugly as fuck but the unarmed combat is very complete.

>>174038274

Valdis Story. The angel girl starts off with just her fists, although you can use other weapons life a staff to fuck monsters up too.

>>174038274
Zenoclash 1 but not 2 since that was published by Capcom

>>174035159
Looks like Has Been Heroes

>>174038376
>ugly as fuck
What the fuck

It has good tilesets, but a roguelike doesn't even need anything more than ASCII.

snce /dadg/ is dead this is the next best place. Do mods finally have sound?

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>>174035159
Has Been Heroes.
Princesses are just glorified accessories and have no actual gameplay impact other than every twenty souls let you use a spell instantly, with no effect on cooldowns (and that could have just been a standard meter). Story-wise you're meant to be escorting them but considering it's a game over if just one your heroes dies, they just walk behind you and do nothing.
You switch around three heroes in three seperate lanes during the game. There's 36 Heroes all falling within one of three roles; DPS, Tank or Support. Heroes seem to differ based on elemental alignment and spell bonuses.
I'm having a fantastic run. My Luchador has ended up going from a warrior to a Concrete Battlemage thanks to all these items and spells/spell bonuses.
>Heaps of Stamina/Health to tank hits if necessary.
>Casting any spell causes melee to recharge instantly and causes all cooldowns to reduce by an additional amount.
>All damage taken reduced by 20 percent.
>Spells recharge 130% quicker than normal.
And that's not even mentioning the spell combinations which can deal a massive amount of damage if used properly.

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>>174043990
Is there even supposed to be a joke here

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>>174039153
Both are published by Atlus.

>>174049137
What the fuck is that?

>>174021084
The goddess of sausage smiled on your fate.

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>>174049176
Abyss Odyssey which plays very similar to a smash singleplayer game with some randomisation, also published by Atlus.

>>174049412
Isn't that game really bad?

>>173962885
>kumoko crop OP
What the fuck is happening here? Expedition when?

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>>174049842
>What the fuck is happening here?
Nobody else wanted to make an OP.

>>174049761
Nope it is pretty good. The flaws to me is how relatively short it is and that the randomisation could make a bigger impact.

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>>174049996
>cute
>Breaking news : "VICIOUS PREDATOR SINGLE HANDEDLY THREATENS THE ECO-SYSTEM OF AN INTER-CONTINENTAL MAZE"
>the one survivor report a spider-like appearance in-between setting himself on fire

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>>174049996
This_is_what_happens_when_you_fuck_a_stranger_in_the_ass.jpg

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>>174050354
>implying she's not the cutest spider
I pity ye of shit taste.

Rain World is really beautifully designed. The visuals are simple yet stunning.
I'd love some sort of post-apocalyptic 2D scavenger rpg with a similar style and setting

Is slugcat fluffy or slimy?

>>174051614
I imagine it's like an otter; furred, but really slick (especially after wallowing through slimy organics, waste and whatnot)

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>>174051614
Probably both. The perfect cuddling animal.

>>174051614
>>174051696
>ywn have a family of slugcats make a home in your barn
>ywn engage in silly and adorable pseudo-communication with the intelligent creatures by giving them stuff and teaching them a few words
>ywn wake up with a pile of berries wrapped in a leaf on your doorstep
>ywn sleep with a pile of slugcats all over you

>>174051696
I saw this got new official shirts.

>>174051696
>everything is a slime
Well. That's kinda cute.

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>>174052105
"Cute" is the second appeal of the game. The first is to make mad dosh.

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>>174052105
The game is literally called Slime Rancher.
Made by an ex Spiral Knights dev which explains why everything is so goshdarm cute.

I like Grim Dawn, but it doesn't have enough spells.

I guess that I ultimately only want to play a HD version of Diablo 2.

>>174055286
get a load of this rudeboi

>>174055191
Was 14/? really that short? Some of these games (I'm specifically thinking of Hikikomori's Last Stand) seems like they should be a little longer...

It seems like nothing happened in 14/?.

Mr.Shifty is pretty fun.

I recommend coughpiratingcough it and see if it's for you.

>>174049137
1 was self published on Steam, Atlus only funded the XBLA port

>>174039153
Wait, there's a second one?

>>174049761
It's really infuriating at times, but not outright bad

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>>174055191

>>174057691
So it's like Valdis Story?

>>174057842
Just report and ignore the shill

>page 10
Nice job.

Man why report those videos.

>page 7

Aye goo' job, laddies

just too busy playing Cosmic Star Heroine

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Okay, anyone knows what's a chakram-glaive? Should I put it on my sword guy, or my archer guy? On a gut feeling, does it sound like a better weapon than a long-bow or a bardiche?

>>174063452
A glaive is a Chinese polearm, but a chakram is some kind of disc.

>>174063640
With that info I would say it is a polearm with a disc cutter at the end.

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I'm keeping an eye on Leilani's Island

>>174063452
>>174063640
Chakram a throwing weapon. So it also could be a set of glaive-like blades on a metal ring.

>>174063640
>>174063750
Hmm, interesting. Thanks, anon.
And wikipedia says
>The term "glaive" is incorrectly used in some modern fantasy fiction, films and video games to refer to various thrown weapons, similar to the chakram or hunga munga, which can mystically return to the thrower (as in popular myths surrounding the boomerang).

Well fuck, I have no idea what to make of this. Ranged weapon? Melee? Ranged that uses the melee stat?

>>174064012
Looks almost like an autoscroller.

>>174064012
It reminds me of a Nitrome game.
So it's just you rolling around at the speed of sound and there's a Mario mechanic relating to picking up a powerup that gives you +1 HP?

Just finished A Night in the Woods

Story was sub-par, characters made me feel some pretty extreme feels. 7/10 it's okay - IGN

Worth a playthrough from a sale. Bea is bae

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I need more games with feels. What are the top feels in /indie/? More stuff similar to NitW and Life is Strange is the shit I need injected directly into my eyes.

>>174066853
Undertale, OFF, XCOM, Lone Survivor...

>>174066853
http://vgperson.com/games/
Lots of feels here in adventure but also some in horror.

>>174066853
The full version of IMSCARED. The 100% ending was really unexpected.

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>>174038274
Mr. Shifty might fit the bill. Its kind of like Hotline Miami if you had nightcrawler short range teleport powers.

>>174069028
But that dumb name tho

>>174071654
Eh, who cares about a name if the gameplay is good?

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This is truly a blessed run.

Also why is shiro in the OP?

>>174074257
Why, do you hate spiders?

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>>174074827
No, I love her. I was just wondering.

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>playan Rain World
>whoah, deep
>goosebumps at the atmosphere several times
>Five Pebbles' cyber-undead anti-gravity information computronic superstructure blows my mind
>go deep
>chills and wonders who are those sentinel things?
>delve into the thing, yeah know what it is
>Holy father of Cthulhu my enlightened monk face when

>Junkan's blanks are affected by ammolets
niceu

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>mfw a katana wielding autist on a school rampage just eluded 5 of my officers and singlehandedly cut 3 of them down

>>174057901
>posting videos is shilling
>implying the post everyones so butthurt about wasnt a false flag because fuck lets players

>>174078573
It wasnt a false flag though. This guy is always shilling his videos here and acts butthurt if people criticize him.

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>>174075427
Because I had no indie picture.

Can you not go to bullet hell during a blessed run?

I've gotten such a fucking stacked run and now I'm kind of upset that I wasn't able to go there.

>>174079482
Hmm.
>>174067859

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>>174079682
if he wants to spread the love of the spooder i'm not gonna stop him

>>174079757
I wonder how many Generals we could put her in the OP of.

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>>174079682
What, do you hate spiders?

>>174079882
Two so far.

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Doublefine realized nobody wants to play Tim's retardsim and are gonna put up more prototypes to compensate.

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>>174079549
Apparently you're supposed to but it's a crap shot as to whether or not it works.

Fuck that shit I'm giving myself my loadout again.

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I actually took a whole lot of dumb hits but a few of them were game hiccups that landed me in front of bullets.

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I got one of the heart containers and the yellow chamber from cursula, plus stealing like 3 things, but the first time I ever see the curse heal shrine it was actually really useful.

>>174078252
In game or in real life because it could honestly be either.

>>174081371
I think it's called "this is the police" or something

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I don't have a What I Played/What I Expected/What I Got image big enough for my reaction to My Uncle Works At Nintendo

>>174078252
That's not even a katana, it's a no dachi.
Fucking cringy weeaboo can't even get the name right.

>>174081694
isn't that from the same guy who made pony island, that's kind of half the point of the game isn't it

>>174081694
e-elaborate? Without spoilers, if possible?
Is it the good kind of surprise, or is it just the "wow, super unexpected, but that doesn't save the entrie game" kind of surprise?

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>>174081763
>isn't that from the same guy who made pony island
HE MADE MORE?!?
MUST PLAY

>>174083156
i think i was wrong, i looked it up and doesn't seem to be the case

>>174081694
It`s okay until you check the author`s notes.

Then, well...

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>>174079682
This reminds me of the multiple times YHVH tried to conquer /vg/.

>>174089920
YHVH isn't as cute as Kumo.

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>>173969434
Thanks for this, by the way. I'm completely webbed

Also, does anyone know how Rain World will handle additional content? Will they just add it to the world/existing campaign, or will they add new content "expansion-style"?

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>>174091726
The manga only covers 10% of the story. If you want to read the novel, you can find translations around. I suggest novelplanet.com, it's the most complete one, even through it doesn't do side stories. The translation is also sometimes a bit weird, but the best translation I found (on blastron01's tumblr) isn't far in the story.

Or you can just stick to the manga, it'll be slower but headache-free.

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>>174092016
>>174091726
http://www.novelupdates.com/series/kumo-desu-ga-nani-ka/
novelupdates is a good place to find repositories of shit

currently the web novel is going at a very slow pace because they're working on publishing it as an actual novel

>>174092016
aw shit nigga is dat sum AI War?

Haven't seen that game in a while. Played it when it was new, how many expansions does it even have nowadays?

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>>174064012
This looks like a phone game
..but I want to try it. Stuff like that tends to be addictive as all hell

>>174092016
>>174092171
(Someone mentioned that the story wasn't as good as the manga. Although I'm an absolutely avid reader, I've never read LNs. Would you recommend it?)

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>>174092192
I'm counting six.
I'm still amazed by the insane possiblities that game offer. I have yet to use missiles, thought.
And it's sad that it's pretty much the only good Arcen game.

>>174092171
Ha, didn't put a direct link because I thought 4chan would block it.
Also, not the first time I see that spider, is that the art for the novel? She's even more expressive than in the manga. And I saw people complaining that the manga made her too cute compared to the gross, pale spider the novel describe.

So, indie, I`m at an impasse.

I have $26 in steambux. After my friend gifted me Hollow Knight and Rimworld (Which are both pretty sick, but I really can`t run them until I upgrade my rig), I realized that I have nothing else to buy. I looked a bit, and I`ve settled on Rain World and Oneshot.

Both seem pretty interesting, but I have some pretty major holdups about both. Rain World looks more fun and I like the way the creatures interact and look, but it also seems particularly frustrating and the controls don`t seem particularly tight.
On the other hand, Oneshot sounds like it has a much better story, but I`m not typically a fan of story games and I feel like I already know all the twists of the story.

TL;DR help me decide what I waste my money on

>>174092436
That's the art for the light novel yea, but that's how she looks in the manga too. She just thinks of herself as a small cute thing when she's actually roughly the size of a 10 year old (at the start) and not all that cuddly.

>>174092436
After she leaves the mountain the direction of the story changes, and while I can understand why some people don't like it I'm mostly fine with it since we finally got out of "the past" narratively. Even before the parts that some people tend to dislike there's still a bunch of adventuringand shit before that happens.

It's probably the second best LN I've read, I would recommend it yea.

>>174092436
Hey, do you know that general idea that books/novelizations are always more complete than the movies?
It also applies to web novels. The Kumo renders her monologues quite well, but there's still a lot lacking, and the comedic aspect is accentuated, while the original story is less funny. I would still recommend it, if you have the patience to read stuff that may be worded strangely.
Still not as bad as Konosuba or Overlord.

>>174092525
Why not check Steam's catalogue? You can easily find games that are under 10 or 5 brouzoufs. I wish I could help you more, but among the games you named, I only tried Rimworld.
And everyone starved in less than a week despite me having a lot of potatoes. Fucking Irishes.

>>174092525
>I really can`t run them until I upgrade my rig
>help me decide what I waste my money on
Save and upgrade your rig. Seriously.

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>>174092829
>Still not as bad as Konosuba or Overlord.
hold up there nigger, overlord is amazing and konosuba is great too, in addition to kumo being great as well

>>174092893

The $26 is already in steam dollars, leftovers and gift money.

>>174092829
>konosuba and Overlord not great
Wat
If you're talking about the novels, I suppose that might be true, but the mangas (and anime adaptations) are great

>>174093052
>>174092893
Clarification: It`s $26 of steam money. It`s either in my account already or in gift cards from family members.

I already have $1100 to build a rig, the last things I`m saving up for are for a decent monitor and a SSD

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>>174092785
Alright, thanks. Might check out the novel.
..Although there's a reason I've never read jap light novels. I'm absolutely spoiled when it comes to litterature, and those few snippets I've read of light novels seem more like fan-fiction level stuff.

..Then again, I used to think comics was for snotty kids too, until a friend of mine gave me Watchmen as a birthday present. Holy shit

>>174092893
If it's Steambucks, he can't buy rig with it.

>>174092995
Not really.
The manga and the novels are way too different. For Overlord, Skeleton McScaryFace doesn't interact much, and mostly keeps to himself, putting the reader in a different perspective.
In the novel, you see things in his point of view, so while he seems extremely calm in the manga, the noven makes it clear that he's extremely agitated and borderline paranoid when the NPCs start reacting.

Same with Konosuba, the manga turns Megumin and Darkness into simple-minded fools, while the novel makes it clear that outside of their peculiar quirks, they're both very decent people. When I switched from the manga to the novel, I was actually really surprised by how dependable Darkness was in the novel.
Aqua is still a complete retard in the novel.

>>174093080
I was talking about the difference, the discrepancy between the novels and the mangas. Kumo is relatively the same, even through the manga is light-hearted compared to the novel. For Konosuba and Overlord, they are vastly different.

>>174093329
Well, there's the issue of the original writing, and the issue of the translation. A bad translation can ruin an objectively well-written novel.

>>174093329
>and those few snippets I've read of light novels seem more like fan-fiction level stuff.
I don't know if it's a japanese writing style thing or what, but most of them seem to be in a rather stilted format.

The group that translated Overlord presented it as a "normal" book and I do think that actually helps its presentation a fair amount, but keeping the "stilted" style of the original writing is also pretty fine, I think.

>>174093052
>>174093267
Yeah, but if your rig can't run Rimworld I highly doubt it'll run Rain World either.

Oneshot would probably work, being rpgmaker shovelware garbage. But being rpgmaker shovelware garbage, you might not want it.

>>174093329
I fucking hate this reddit variant of watched/played-expected-got. 3 panels that look exactly the same and completely skips the expected panel fuck this is retarded.

>>174093427
>Not really.
>The manga and the novels are way too different.
I'm horrendously confused by this criticism. The novel is the story, the manga is just an adaption for more money / people who would want a manga.

You can argue the adaptions are kind of bad but I don't understand how you would take that as "the material is bad".

Also the manga did the lizardman arc a hundred times better than the novel.

Wasn't there some "isekai" indie game not too long ago? I know kono suba just came out with a megaman clone but I think there was something actually independent a bit ago.

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>>174093694
>I'm horrendously confused by this criticism.
It's not criticism, it's a statement.
There are differences between the manga and the novel. Sometimes, they're minimal, and sometimes, they give a completely different impression of the characters.
In the manga, Skeleton Spookface looks like he's calm and collected, and usually keeps his thoughts to himself (raising the question of why he goes so far to save the vampire girl), while the novel presents him completely differently, and makes it clear that he considers the guardians to be mementos of his friends.
Same thing, different point of views.

And then there's the issue of just showing characters at their worst, like in Konosuba where Darkness is usually only visible when she is in her masochist mood, while the novel often mentions her staying silent and observing during discussions.

Man, we're popular today.

>>174093968
You're not wrong, but I'm pretty confused because you respond to "they're great" with "no, not really" and then say the novel is too different from the manga.

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>>174094076
Because they are different things.
Not like there's something wrong (in fact, if the manga was a carbon copy of the novel, then why make a manga in the first place), but I thought it was worth mentioning that the novel and the manga are vastly different.
Because, you know, if someone start reading Kumo because "cute spider-chan's adventure", he'll be in for a wild ride.

>>174094307
The tone of the manga isn't any different from the tone of the novel at the part it's at, it's only later on in the story when the story changes.

Since kono suba megaman made it sell like hotcakes I wonder if any other people will try that? VNs aren't uncommon but people obviously like mega man more.

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>>174094007
Perhaps the odd image featured in our OP made some people look twice at us.

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Not anyone you're replying to, but here:
>>174092829
you're about novels, and saying that Konosuba and Overlord is bad. Yet here:
>>174093427
you're saying the novels are better?

It seems to me that most of the time, the novels are more niche, which makes sense considering that drawing a mange (let alone animating an anime adaptation!) takes a lot more resources, and thus needs to be more generally appealing.

The inherent cringyness of the minds of Japanese novel creators becomes painfully apparent when reading light novels, imo.
The only thing I might consider reading is the Overlord novel, but only because the manga (and anime) is so damn slow.

>>174093523
Well, I haven`t tested rimworld yet, but I tested Hollow Knight and it hit around 10 frames maybe? It`s more intensive than it seems, though, so I don`t know how much it counts.

My computer can run heavily modded skyrim and FNV fine (on low settings) but can choke on some otherwise totally simple games. Yugioh Devpro overheats it if it`s on my bed for christsakes. It`s an enigma.

>>174094552
Not exactly.
First, I say that the books are more complete than the movies based on them.
Then I explain it applies to web novels too, and I use Kumo as an example of a web novel giving more details than the manga..
Then I give more extreme examples, and I quote both Overlord and Konosuba, as the differences between the mangas and the base material is greater in these case than in Kumo's case.

>The inherent cringyness of the minds of Japanese novel creators becomes painfully apparent when reading light novels, imo.
Yeah. In Konosuba's case, it's obvious that it's referencing mangas, even in the descriptions (Darkness getting embarassed and letting out steam, Kazuma sweating when witnessing something embarassing, and all the girls treating him like crap).


Man, I'd pay for a RPG based on Kumo. It would be like a mix between the Elder Scrolls games (skills develop as you use them) and the Fallout games (or you just pay for them with skill points).
Imagine all the minmaxing you can pull off.

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>>174095050
>rpg similar to Dark Souls in tone
>you start out as a small monster
>no text
>start with next to no interface of any sort either
>basically a survival sim at first
>You gradually develop skills and abilities, enabling you to explore further.
>Also enabling you to evolve into various forms
>Slowly discover more and more of a vast fantasy world
>Interact with more and more intelligent beings as you grow in strength
>Eventually interact with humans(/humanoids)
>(either fighting/raiding/ambushing them or making a trade/name for yourself in one of their cities)
>Slowly discover more about your origins, and game-world lore

That's a neat idea. It would be like Rain World, only you're some kind of monster, and it would be styled as an rpg-metroidvania hybrid.

>>174095546
So a mix between :
>Dark Souls' atmosphere
>Mount & Blade's open world
>Don't Starve for the survival
>Fallout/Elder Scrolls for the skill system

Shit, I'm hard.
And I'll really have to try Rain World and Hollow Knight.

>>174095685
Now picture this:
>You are the last of your species from some foreign planet
>You can mate with any creature to create a hybrid
>These hybrids will be your offspring and when you die of various causes or age, you will take control of one of them

>>174097129
Kinda like that game, Rogue Legacy?

That sounds as fun as that Konosuba Megaman game that's actually kicking my ass right now.
I'm so going to kick Megumin's ass once I reach her.

But wasn't there a game like that where you take control of your descendant if you die?

>>174097129
>>174097326
>Descendants as "extra lives"
Although this is a nice and interesting concept, it would end up becoming a too major theme and part of the gameplay in a game like this, I think.
Not that it's inherently bad, but it does retract from an rpg experience by distancing you from your character.

Perhaps if you could "transfer" your soul or something to your offspring (as an ability gained after a while). Then the player wouldn't feel the jarring "oh, now I'm someone else"-feel making them relate less to their character.

>>174097543
I guess so. And besides, it would allow NPCs to talk directly to the player instead of talking to the character we're just controlling most of the time.
I always wanted a game where the characters are talking directly to the extradimensional abomination controlling that body who's been running around killing people.

>>174097543
Now see, I didn't have this issue when I played Rogue Legacy. You play as your descendants, but you feel no disjoint, even if they're a totally different class with dyslexia or irritable bowels or what have you. But I do see your point as well.
>>174097326
Yeah, I was thinking of the Creature Stage from Spore, where you take control of your offspring every time you die or evolve.

>>174097746
What bothers me with Rogue Legacy is that you don't feel like you control your son/daughter. It may as well be a distant relative for all your know.
Massive Chalice has a better approach toward relatives.

>>174097746
Yeah, Rogue Legacy is fun as hell (but then again it doesn't focus on immersion that the same way, say, Skyrim or Dark souls does).

>>174007670
Going to start on this now! pls no spoopy shadows

>>174098064
I really liked how Dark Souls tried to blend the gameplay and the story together. Pretty much everything makes sense in universe.
I wish more games tried that approach, instead of just making a hard as balls shitty game and pretending it's "like Dark Souls". Yes Oblitus and Malebolgia, I'm looking at you.

>>174093427
>so while he seems extremely calm in the manga
In pretty much every non-fight scene, he has several internal thoughts (usually along the lines of "oh god the sluts are fighting again why do I deserve this"). In the first few chapters it's almost entirely just him, trying to think of how to deal with the situation and figuring out what sort of extent his powers are.
Does the novel have extended sections like that further into the story or something? Currently in the lizardfolk part it mostly focuses on them, so he hasn't even been on screen a lot of the time.

>>174099879
During the opening, he's mostly confused in the manga (or at least come off as confused).
Meanwhile, in the novel, he's confused, but it also quickly turns into "what if they all decide to go after me?"

In the later chapters of the manga, his personality is a bit expanded, but at first, you don't really feel him panicking.

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Anybody have a link for the Space Funeral 4 that the dev canned?

I just wanna listen to that 16-bit version of White Waking.

>>174098232
I think most games that try to be like Dark Souls fail to bring the best aspects of Dark Souls. Yeah, Dark Souls is challenging in a good way but there's so much more to it than that

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Are doujin games indies?

>>174102913
I honestly feel like that most people comparing other games to Dark Souls actually never played Dark Souls to begin with.
Dark Souls isn't hard. There are some parts that are bullshit (hitboxes, camera and lag, for example), but for the rest, it's just a question of logic. Once you learn the basics (watch around corner, watch out for suspicious stones, talk to the NPCs until they start repeating themselves, move slowly), it's actually very rewarding.
The first game caused me a lot of problems, but the second and third games were actually quite easy. Well, except the bosses. Fuck you Friede.

>>174093968
>>174103137
Are these screenshots from an actual game, or just mockups?

>>174104885
the game came out a few weeks ago, it came with the BD release of S2

>>174103137
>Are doujin games indies?
technically no, but we've got worse offenders here. But I'd really rather you talk about the games rather than the LNs or mangos whatever.

I got nothing against kumo or overlord or konosuba(and have even read bits of them with opinions to match), but increased traffic is hardly an excuse to eliminate the point of /indie/.

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>>174104885
It's a real game.
And I just died because I used Steal instead of jumping, and I discovered that Kazuma is not lava-proof.

>>174105653
>Not Stealing all the Lava into your pockets
I know you can't, I just like meemeing.

>>174106234
I'm playing with a keyboard. So it's A to attack, S to use spell, X to jump and Z for something else I'm not sure what it does.
I should buy a keyboard.

Anyway, AI War. Anyone managed to play online? I tried a few times, it always failed, and playing it alone is a chore.

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>>174102134
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oy8l7kx9ogw81xw/Space%20Funeral%204%20DEMO%20-%20uncensored.7z

>>174107543
What the fuck.

>>174105541
>technically no
Doujin games are literally indie games

Except that konosuba game probably isn't an indie/doujin game in the first place because it's based off licensed property and made by a professional studio

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>>174107543
Good stuff, thanks chum.

>>174105653
Is that game any good? Also, any hassle getting it to work on an English OS?

>>174064012
>turns into a marble when rolling
weird!

>>174109524
I haven't played it but it seems pretty good.

You can find a translation for it easily where the translated LN is

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>>174080140
it hurts

i beat the steam version of oneshot yesterday

now i want to fuck niko even more

>>174113142
do NOT fuck the cat

>>174113354
i want to fuck the cat
i also want to see porn of the cat fucking his mom

>>173985954
Sue a best.

Human Resource Machine is hard.
I almost fucking bought it a second time because I forgot that I got it in a Humble Bundle ages ago and forgot about it.

>>174115123
Logic games are usually pretty hard.

>>174105653
Well shit, I guess I'll hunt this down and give it a spin even though I've never seen more than one episode.

>>174116168
it's actually a pretty good adaption if you want to, though there's some mild anime original stuff in the end of s2

>>174115164
I'm glad it ended up ramping up in difficulty. The first 8 or so puzzles were way too easy.

Is it just my shitty laptop or does hollow knight feel like it has a lot of input lag

>>174120898
Probably your laptop. The controls are tight, just that the game is more intensive than one might assume.

>>173976816
I'm still missing Dedication yet I could've sworn I've already done at least thirty dailies.

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Ive had enough!

>>174122684
Put the gun down man, we can talk!

>>174122684
I'm not fucking around!

>>174111191
you want hell fuck you have nothing

>>174109629
not untrue

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>>174109524
It's a bit grindy but a nice way to spend time.
Literally just download it, replace a file, and play. I didn't even need Applocale or anything.

>>174116168
I didn't watch any episode either. Just the manga and the novel.

>>174122684
Wha- Where can you even find that?

>>174130572
It's an April Fools.

>>174130683
Well I'll be damned

>>174130745
That being said, I would love to have that weapon just for fun.
>As unwieldy as a grapple worm
>Mow down everything, even Five Pebbles

>>174130897
I thought Rain World was some Super Meat Boy trash game where you just jump around and try not to die like a little bitch?

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>>174120898
Hollow Knight is tighter than a gnat's asshole. It's just known to cause toaster fires.

If it had any significant input lag, later sections would be unplayable.

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lol Idle Weekend getting mad because people hate Yooka Laylee and reflect their hate on Banjo Kazooie

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>>174130897
One thing that would've been kinda cool:
>Somewhere in the ruins
>Find some piece of machinery that doesn't look too worse off
>It's possible to interact with it somehow
>(e.g. throw a rock at some part of it, cracking it; push on a lever; damage a control terminal; etc.)
>A small drone-like robot will activate
>About the size of the slugcat, maybe a little smaller
>Ancient military/police/riot drone or something
>Cold, sleek yet utilitarian design
>Flies around slowly with an eerie sharp bright "scanner"
>Not immediately hostile, but very easily provoked, turning the lights red
>Scary mechanical chirp, red alert holograms flickering around it
>Will absolutely wreck and splatter any creature in the game in one shot with some horrifying sharp crack of lased light
>(you included)
>...All you can do is slowly sneak away, leaving it in peace.
>Just another horrifying remnant of a forgotten age.
> Then you find a deactivated/derelict "big" one. Vulture-sized and bristling with BigSisterMoon-knows-what weaponry

>>174131545
No see, Super Meat Boy respawns you quickly as you die repeatedly trying to get through a static level.

Rain World sends you into a large Metroid-like map full of enemies that don't have fixed spawns, gives you a time limit to reach the next check point, and also harshly punishes you if you die.

>>174131545
No, you just die like a bitch.

>>174131868
This, basically. Painful, but superbly atmospheric and full of emergent gameplay.

>>174131868
Jesus.

>>174131939
I'm not entirely sure you know what emergent gameplay means. A situation being random does not inherently make it complex and emergent gameplay requires complexity.

This is especially true of a situation being random and overwhelmingly favoring a particular outcome, death in this case.

>>174132194
Hmm, maybe you're right. Still, I'd say that the basic framwork (as well the randomized elements in it) that Rain World posits probably has lead to a lot of various strategies and ways of handling problems that the developers didn't account for.

But the definition of "emergent gameplay" is probably pretty mechanical and rigid, yeah.. and probably more qualtitative in nature than I'm presuming here. I must admit I'm not too familiar with the concept technically

>>174066353
nice, that does a really good job of emulating PSOne Aesthetics. I wish more games paid tribute to that era.

>>174133759
>PSOne
What the hell is that.

>playing Battle Brothers
>look at a cripple's bio
>"He explains he was a peddler once, but the sale of a lobo-rail ended with him at the mercy of an angry town mob."

I couldn't find any information on what a "lobo-rail" is. Is it a reference to the Simpsons? There was an episode where a guy sold a faulty monorail system to the town, and wound up getting beaten by an angry mob at the end.

>>174137623
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lobo

>>174133759
It's not emulating, it literally is a game from 2004 originally released on the psp.

>>174137905
That doesn't answer his question

>>174138036
It's a grey wolf train.

>civ4xg recaptured their OP
My spider influence is weakening!

Don't die yet.

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Is Touhou indie?

>>174146523
Not anymore since both Tasofro and ZUN are now sucking sony cock the fucking sellouts.

>>174147342
They are? Oooh, that's sad. It made a nice story, the story of a lonely little dev making his little niche games.

>>174147396
He got married and has kids now. Gotta bring in the money or something like that.

>>174147902
That's a bit sad. He gave up his freedom.

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You guys remember Hover? The indie game that got the composer of Jet Set Radio's soundtrack?

They just released 2 tracks, and it's pretty good.

https://soundcloud.com/hideki-naganuma/sets/hover-revolt-of-gamers?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter

>play more Battle Brothers
>find a bastard character
>his last name is "Cuckchild."

lol

Does indie always means small?

>>174155902
No it means selfpublished.

>>174155902
Not necessarily, it's just independent developers rarely have the financial power by themselves to make double or triple A titles. Nowadays, probably CD Projekt RED is the only real AAA indie developer.

Bungie also had massive potential back in the day (remember, HALO was a PC / MAC exclusive title!), then Bill needed a system seller for his new console and thus bought the whole company from A to Z.

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>>174158427
So that covers all games that are edited by the same company who developped them? Wouldn't that means a lot of AAA games too?

>>174158820
CD Projeckt RED? That sounds familiar.

>>174158934
Yes Half Life and other Valve games are huge but are technically indie. Same for nintendo games.

>>174159149
I just want to clarify it, because I have a hard time finding games to talk about, and all the games that are clearly, obviously indies, well, I don't like them.
>Furi
>Super Meat Boy
>Hotline Miami

>>174158934
>>174159149
Not only that, but titles like No Man's Sky too. Despite Sony's Pub Fund program those games are still self-developed and self-published, without the creative or financial contribution from the Japanese giant itself.

>>174159279
No prob, I also don't play 95% of what /indie/ does. If you intend to seek specifically indie titles, sites like IndieDB (or even Steam's indie tag) might help. Or just check the games got released in the last week or so.

>>174160249
I disagree with NMS. It clearly benifted a lot from getting sony money. No way the game would have been on e3 stage for 3 years without sony paying the bill. No way anyone would have given a shit about yet another empty open world scam if it did not have the sony stamp of fanboyism.

>Mothergunship is just Tower of Guns 2
Neat.

>>174161076
>Mothergunship is just Tower of Guns 2
Boo

>>174161076
>Mothergunship is just Tower of Guns 2
All interest lost. I'd rather reinstall Lichdom.

>>174161065
To my best knowledge, the only financial aid that were given to Hello Games is a half million USD package that comes with Pub Fund (and technically, is an advance from future royalties of the game). Aside from that, Sony didn't provide anything when it comes to development or publishing.

>>174094476
I picked Schera, the ability to chainspam and have her reduce everyone's WT back to 0 is 2gud.

But Agate is pretty much the best single target fighter for a looooong time.

The problem with literally definition of indies is that it doesn't reflect original intended use of the term. People don't give a shit who made the game, 1 guy or 200 man team. People don't give a shit about budget and where it came from.

Usually people would use "indie game" in a positive sense when they mean a game that takes risky deviations from well selling games/genres/mechanics/etc., because in AAA world publishers just might not want to bet their money on something that might not pay off. Which basically means indies == unorthodox games. But it's much easier to use and understand word "indie".

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>>174002850
Only took me 2 days to find it. I hope you're fucking happy.

>>174161397
Did you read what I typed? That is millions in advertising money that no indie game would ever get on its own.
Also I just remembered the game was actually officially published by sony on ps4.

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>>174161514
I picked by the logic that Estelle as tank-healer symbioses better with Agate and that Agate did not spend years with Joshua and Estelle which should help bring a different perspective on things.

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>>174161354
I liked Tower of Guns. And this looks like it expands nicely on the original.

>>174163312
I didn't like it. Turrets were annoying to see because they spawned all of a sudden, and often had the same colours than the walls, so they were difficult to see until they shot at you. And the way they all spawned at once, you were nicely trolling, and all of a sudden you were getting shot at from everywhere.
Ziggurat handled spawning better.

>>174162918
Two out of your three sentences prove that you're not familiar with the concept of Pub Fund. Here, let me help you out: https://www.giantbomb.com/pub-fund/3015-7606/

Besides, No Man's Lie hype were the exception not the standard. Same like with Minecraft back then. Literally one out of a million title gets this attention, regardless of the invested money.