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>Pre CCC event campaign
http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/extraccc_campaign/
>Nero Bride's NP power-up through Interlude, also animation update
>New Mystic Code
>Servants appeared in Extra CCC have a half AP for Interlude and Strengthening Quests
>Main quests half AP until Solomon, 19th until 30th
Rate-up gacha:
19-20 Bride
21-22 Gilgamesh
23 Bride and Gilgamesh
24 Karna
25 Tamamo no Mae
26-27 Bride
28-29 Gilgamesh
30 Bride and Gilgamesh
>May
1 Karna
2 Tamamo no Mae
3 Bride, Gilgamesh, Karna and Tamamo no Mae
>Gawain, Nero, Emiya, Liz, Robin Hood Cu Chulainn is always on the rate-up

>English FGO confirmed for Summer 2017 in US and Canada
http://fate-go.us/
>First 2 chapters on release
>Japanese audio with subs
>No Japanese account transfer
>No censorship unless ESRB takes issue with something

>Event: GUDAGUDA Part II
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20170405.php
Period: 5-19 April 2017

>News
- Latest changes http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Farming Guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_SlTjrVRTgHgfS7sRqx4CeJMqlz687HdSlYqiW-JvQA/htmlview?sle=true#

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/RA8Px5jz

>FL Spreadsheet (last reset: Dec.7)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Materials, experience and event AP simulators
http://fgosimulator.webcrow.jp/

>Alternate Servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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first for medea
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Senpai
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So in the myth medb died to a wedge of cheese being thrown at her, would she have a conceptual weakness to cheese as a result?
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>>174339198
What does it mean when she gives me that look?
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I've finally did it!
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>>174339228
>cow killed by dairy
lel
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Are the Alter Egos getting their own class? Because I don't see how a new class could possibly work from a gameplay perspective
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>>174339193
who
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>>174339198
*sempai
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>>174339198
You're not my Kouhai.
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Why is GO so fucking bad?
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>>174339328
> I don't see how a new class could possibly work from a gameplay perspective
Strong against Avenger, weak against Ruler.
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>>174339328
Datamine says they hit Cavalry hard and are weak to Knights.

Kinda like reverse Pillars.
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Guan Yu 5* when lads?

I have a rough idea maybe I should draw my own
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>>174339193
SHINJI will be relevant soon enough.
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>>174339445

That doesn't make sense though, Alter Egos have no actual meaning other than being parts of BB that she cut out and fused with various deities. They're not like Avengers who represent revenge and Rulers who represent justice.
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>174332349
>>174332534
>Lu Xiaofeng aka Four Eyebrows is best known for his 'Lingxi Finger' (靈犀一指), which allows him to catch and hold enemies' weapons between his fingers
>this is his conceptual advantage over anyone who uses weapons
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>>174339228
Yes and Hercules is weak to poison
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>>174339527
After Musashi (True)
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>>174339547
>They're not like Avengers who represent revenge and Rulers who represent justice.
Alter Egos are holy abominations, the proposed class triangle makes sense in that context.
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Alternate world Caesar when?
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>>174339679

>killed the most powerful Hydra that has been mentioned in the series up to this point
>weak to poison
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>>174339328
It'll be a boss class like the Beasts, so it doesn't need to fit in like a regular class.
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>>174339198
Do you think Emiya still gives a shit about Sakura?

Does Sakura continue being a wormslut post Fate route?
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>>174339328
>>174339445
This is the dream scenario, and considering how much stock Nasu puts in CCC I wouldn't be surprised if they get their own class.
My personal theory about Fate 2.0 is that it will make alignments a lot more important, and the Neutral Alter Egos will complete the Evil Avenger, Good Ruler trinity.
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>>174339707

How? What makes frankenstein goddesses strong against Avengers? The sex factor to cool their rage with the power of boners?
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>>174339736
His death was also from hydra poison well fire but the point stands
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>>174339942

No, his death was because of a betrayal by his unwitting wife. The poison he survived, he only killed himself because he had become contaminated with the poison like Nissus had and would literally kill people by touching them if he continued to live.
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Medb is for ____
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>>174339886
Rulers are dedicated to the Grail.
Avengers are dedicated to Revenge.
Alter Egos are dedicated to (You)
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Which node is the best for blue skill gem?
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>>174340092
dying to a piece of cheese.
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>>174339865
>Do you think Emiya still gives a shit about Sakura?
He explicitly does based off his reaction to learning about her past in HF.
>Does Sakura continue being a wormslut post Fate route?
With his Grail plan being nullified I imagine Zouken would no longer bother grooming her like that, but I doubt Shinji would stop beating and raping her in the Fate route.
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>>174340092
>>174340092
fluffy coats
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>>174339637
>Cu has no idea what even is the shape of Arthuria's blade
>Lancelot is able to catch it barehanded thanks to all his time fighting alongside his king
>Kojirou after few strikes is able to judge perfectly the size and weight of the sword
>Kuzuki, without any previous experience, without trading any blows, without any skill related to perceiving through Saber's Invisible Sword is able to catch Saber's blade in her first strike using his fucking elbow and knee.

History Teachers>Heroes>Monsters>Human.
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>>174340106

So Gudao can solo all the Avengers then?
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>>174340092
BANG!
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>>174339886
The best answer I can think of is love
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>>174340171
>power of boners>all
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>>174340158


>With his Grail plan being nullified I imagine Zouken would no longer bother grooming her like that

Zouken never groomed Sakura for being a grail in the first place. All he did was shove bits of the prior Lesser Grail inside of her for shits and giggles. He only started fucking with her emotions when she suddenly started displaying signs of becoming a viable lesser grail after Shirou hung out with her too much. He still had to wormrape her so that she could be his future host. But yes, 10 years after Fate the grail would be destroyed and Zouken would basically lose all will to live as a result and probably stop worm raping Sakura.
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>>174340158
To be fair, Shinji is at least dead.

Although, that may be a possible difference in Archer's route, that Shinji survived the Fate route and possibly betrayed him.
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>>174340419
Zouken becomes senile and Sakura becomes the master of the house.

You can see it in HA
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>>174340541
Dolling out the charm?
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>>174340541

Yes, in a mysterious and unexplained route where Dark Sakura happens and she scares him into being her bitch while every Servant in the war survives and Shirou pursues romance with all the heroines simultaneously.

HA is not indicative of the future of any route by definition. It's literally a 'what-if' where the happiest possible ending imaginable happened.
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>>174340575
Ready with a handshake and an open palm

Javert when
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>>174339198
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>>174340706
After Valjean so he can bully Dantes.
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>>174340092
for decapitation
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>>174340669

It's not even that. It's just a fake world that AM constructed for Bazett so she didn't have to die.
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Event ends in ~23 hrs right?
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>>174341095
13 hours left
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>>174339062
tits too small
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>>174341135
Ok thanks

I've got 1mil/620k idk if it's worth the effort to Apple the other
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>>174341227
You got Chacha. Now it depends on your needs.
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Give me one good reason why I should be excited for the Alter Egos and their event.
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>>174341227
Depends if you need a Lore or not.
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Friendly reminders:
- Merlin is only meant to be used with Buster NP servants.
- Rider Kintoki is the only welfare servant worth using.
- Herakles has the ONLY max bond CE worth using.
- ALL servants with AoE NPs (except for Gil and Raikou) are worthless garbage.
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>>174341303
Getting your chance at killing them repeatedly
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>>174341227
800k gets you all the chacha you need, 1mil gets you a lore

if you can get to 800k you may as well
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>>174341303
The potential for Alteregos to close the Ruler>Avenger class triangle which may promote more Rulers to be released instead of being a joke class. And the event is the last thing you will get till summer.
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>>174341401
>ALL servants with AoE NPs (except for Gil and Raikou) are worthless garbage.
Not when farming hands, which is 99% of the game.
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>>174341347
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>>174341347
>>174341495
Translation, please?
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>>174341449
>tfw Mashu is above-Lancelot-level
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>>174341490
>Not when farming hands
Oh sure, because it's soooooo crucial to ohe-shot fucking hands...
/sarcasm
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>>174341490
why did you have to be the one guy that still replies to that
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>>174341621
>/sarcasm
Fuck off reddit
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>>174341609
Dads have a conceptual weakness to their daughters.
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>>174341621
Kill yourself
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>>174341621
>/sarcasm
>...

(You)
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Which servants would you add interactions between?
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>>174341720
What about their sons?
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>>174341449
who is Ichijijijijijij supposed to be a "translation" of?
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>>174340171
That really was the dumbest fight in the entire VN. People talk about Caliburn killing Herc being an asspull, but Medea randomly bumping into a hideaway ex-super assassin who just happens to have his permanent residence smack dab on top of the Greater Grail, that shit always seemed considerably more jarring to me.
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>>174341927
More Hijikata x Okita x Hijikata love triangle shenanigans.
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>>174341927
all the Artorias reverse raping Emiya
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>every attempt at a vn thread on /a/ that isn't approved by the retarded /a/ mod hivemind is either auto saged or pruned
Majikoi has an anime and manga, just like most of TM's VN's for example. I guess it is all about the new policy of removing generals, which is contradicted by so damn much.
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>>174342093
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>>174341449
>Berserker Lancelot a 9.5
By what metric?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>174341927
Mordred and Arthur. Some sort of Dad-TR going on because Arthur actually likes to hang out with Mo-san and Artoria cares a bit despite herself.
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>>174342228
probably his crit skills
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>>174342175
I know what Okita would do with one Hijikata, but what would she do with TWO?
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>>174341927
Tamamo Cat and Loli Jannu
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>>174342293
the same thing, which is nothing, because Okita is pure and my waifu
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>>174341679
>>174341863
>>174341924
>kys
>reddit
>no effort to refute the fact that AoE NPs are fucking wasted on easy-as-fuck hands
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>>174342175
did that artist always draw Okita with tits or is this just to appeal to FGO's own Hijakata
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>>174342293
She can take up to three Hijikatas so it's not a problem.
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>>174342287
What team does he use for Lancelot then? I can't think of a single crit team he doesn't ruin with his deck, or at least drag down by taking the spot of a more versatile servant. You'd need two, maybe three maxed Twices to stick him on a team freely.
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>>174342228
If only his 3rd skill is like his saber counterpart or at least have more quick cards. I don't know what DW was thinking at the time.
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>>174342293
Double SHINGENGUMI DA
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I want to suck on Tamamo's tamomo's
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>>174342547
Nero got Extella and Tamamo got Foxtail. Extra spinoff for Mumei when?
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>>174342489
Don't take the memelist too seriously, that's why it's called a memelist.
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>>174342489
With proper babying, Lancelot can crit for enormous numbers on account of being able to BBC with a crit damage up skill and having a Berserker modifier, which is further enhanced by his team.

The fact that you could use any other Servant that works on buster crits and not have to baby them as much doesn't really seem to affect his ranking on that, just the fact that if you have the right team you can make him hit really hard. The niplist assumes you've got every Servant in the game along with every CE limit broken.
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BB class in FGO?
Caster?
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Complete this:
______ was a mistake.
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>>174342773
I think the only servants that I agree with on the list are Merlin, Weiba and Rider Kintoki.
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>>174342547
Gozen is objectively a better tamamo
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>>174342817
I
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>>174342489
>You'd need two, maybe three maxed Twices to stick him on a team freely.
That's the exact thing. Memelist acts as if you've got everything you could have in the game. Of course, most people don't so it's mostly useless.
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>>174342817
FGO
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>we will never have a Ruler Javert
>we will never have him with the line AND I'M JAVERT
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>>174341927
This two autist
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>>174342817
Nasu
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>>174342805
>BB class in FGO?
>Caster?
Avenger. It's a joke event where BB and the Alter Egos petition to make Grand Order another Hakuno-led story. Nero Bride, Mumei For the duration of the event Emiya mysteriously won't accept being called by any other name and gets his portrait redrawn by Wada and Gilgamesh are your allies against them. Tamamo is on your side at first but is a mole trying to help Hakuno, and is eventually replaced by "your" Tamamo, Tamamo Cat.
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>>174342817
B160.Should've been B130.
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>>174342817
Weebs
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>>174342817
Yandere gecko
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>>174341621
Fuck off redditard.
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>>174341927
Beowulf and Xuanzang, Karna and Mata, Siegfried and EMIYA.
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>>174341927
I want Quetz and Martha interactions and I want Oni and Musashi interactions given that she considers them beauties.
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>>174342124
To be fair its not like she knows about the GG

She goes all the way to the church to try to get the Lesser Grail
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>>174341927
Dantès and Ozy.
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>>174342962
Javert can't be a ruler

He clearly has a Wish

To catch that criminal 24601
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>>174341927
Emiya and Merlin. Have him go something
like "so you're the guy.." Doesn't help that they go well together in a team.

Also, Gawain and lolis. We need more memes.
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>>174343238
The onis need to appear in Swordsmen chapter
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Finally got to 600k in both points, am I free?
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>>174343860
800k or bust
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>>174343382
But his wish is derivated from a sense of autistic justice so that is good on the Ruler's book no? At least if we go by that Virginia general from the last Chaldea Ace.
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>>174343238
>>174343682
Why does Musashi like onis?
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I just watched the dark side of dimensions

Tsuda Kenjiro voicing a servant when? Any heroic spirit that can bring out his voice?
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>>174343938
She think they are beautiful and wished to be born on the same era as them
She probably have horn fetish
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>>174343938
She just thinks they're really beautiful to the point that she says she was born on the wrong era.
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>>174342817
Rie Takahashi
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Is it worth it to limit break the Hijikata/Okita and Chacha CEs? Or is it better to keep multiples at lvl20?
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>>174343921
As far as i inow, for you to be a Ruler you eother have to be a saint, or have no wish for the Grail
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>>174344073
>>174344126
Musashi is weird!
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>>174342547
Why is Violet literally Rider?
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>>174344272
The ChaCha CE is definitely worth it since it's the best star based CE in the game so far.
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>>174342817
>>174344323
>mistaking bland waifubait personality for weirdness
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>>174344073
>She probably have horn fetish
Horns do look nice.
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>>174344323
Can't blame her,the onis are cute
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>>174343682
How about a fluffy fox eared oni?
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>>174344419
>implying you even know what the word bland means
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https://twitter.com/RX780404/status/854184078777622529/photo/1
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>>174344316
Before Chaldea Ace, we knew you had to be saintly, not specifically a Christian saint, and have no wish in general, not just no wish for the Grail.

Now that Chaldea Ace has said that Robert. E. Lee can be a Ruler because he was a teacher and he led an army, all bets are off.
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>>174344395
Medusa is one of the goddesses composing her.
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>>174344517
Fuck off no one cares about shitail
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why does he wear pants nearly twice his waistline?
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>>174344323
All that udon went straight up into her head.
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>>174344580

Being 'saintly' was never a qualification, all that Apocrypha said was that the class was known for saints of any faith qualifying and that you needed to have no wish for the grail.
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>>174344663
oh nice, haven't read FoxTail actually
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>>174344580
nobody has provided the context for that page suggesting Robert E Lee as ruler though

could be a fan write-in section for all we know
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>>174344797
It was literally a section for American Servants that haven't appeared.
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>>174344724
just in case his Jekyll transformation goes like the Incredible Hulk's does
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The first FGO OG male character to get some sort of figure isn't Dantes nor Arjuna it's Roman.
https://twitter.com/amiamihobbynews/status/854199092188135424
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>>174344758
The actual explanation was that saints tended to qualify for it because of how saints tend to be. Actual sainthood was never a qualification.
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>>174344938

That's literally what I just said.
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>>174344860
yeah I can read katakana too but what else did it say
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>>174344734
I think the udon went to her boobs, not her head.
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>sword makes his stats the highest of all Sabers behind Saber Gilles
>Anti Dragon
>skill that even at base makes other Servants literally tremble in fear
>sword can't take damage no matter the attack so it can be used to block strong shit
>Divine Construct to bypass shit abilitied like Pelt and Achilles mommy protection
>A++ Beam that uses the same method of prana amplification as Excalibur
>only Saber to have fucking beam on contact that explodes from inside when he slashes
>sword doubles his chances of surviving literally anything
And you still have memers denying that he is best Saber
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Post Quatre
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>>174342612

it's called FSN
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>>174345080
>Achilles mommy protection
>when the sword mentioned is literally from mommy
top irony
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>>174345091
4
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>>174344882

i'm more surprised he got something before we got a Nendo Director
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>>174344734
Nah
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>>174345141
Milf of the Lake > Shithis
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>>174345080
>Calling any other Servant out on mommy protection
>when his sword with so many abilities is literally mommy babying him
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>>174344580
>Robert. E. Lee
I'm not very familiar with american history, what exactly are Lee's claims to fame?
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>>174345259
Olga Marie is long forgotten already.
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>>174345091
Trowa, you're drunk, go back to /m/.
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>>174345259
Olga,Mashu and Roman all got a nendo
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>>174344975
Not that anon but I do know this section was like the one with the ROMA servants from a previous issue where they mentioned Nero's mom and the like and those were pretty much legit.
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>>174345436

wait she did get one?
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>>174345080
Now if only it could give him an INT boost so he could stop his chronic stupidity.
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>>174345387
>Robert Edward Lee (January 19, 1807 – October 12, 1870) was an American general known for commanding the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia in the American Civil War from 1862 until his surrender in 1865. The son of Revolutionary War officer Henry "Light Horse Harry" Lee III, Lee was a top graduate of the United States Military Academy and an exceptional officer and military engineer in the United States Army for 32 years. During this time, he served throughout the United States, distinguished himself during the Mexican–American War, and served as Superintendent of the United States Military Academy.
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>>174345387
Some general for the Confederate States during the Civil War or something.
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So did anyone get round to translating Hijikata's stuff?
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>>174345387
President of the Confederate States of America
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>>174345486
Check the twitter link, they show their prototypes.
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>>174345387

Commander of the Confederate Army. Did a real good job considering the South had the industrial capacity, population, and manufacturing potential of a potted plant. Known to have fought solely for the sake of the soldiers under him, not for all the retarded politics that caused the war in the first place.
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>>174345259
>>174345436
This is not a Nendoroid you retards it's an Ichiban Kuji prize figure.
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>>174345387
He commanded the armies of the southern states in the American Civil War
The South Shall Rise Again!
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Newshitter here, what should spend points on?
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>>174345524
>>174345535
>>174345572
>>174345598
>>174345694
I can't wait for the shitstorm of people condemning him of being a confederate general despite his disinterest on the politics if he ever does get implemented as a full servant.
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>>174345387
He was a general for the Confederation (aka the pro-slavery side) on the American Civil War. He was fighting for his state of Virginia. He wasn't really supportive of even going into a split, but his home state left the Union (the anti-slavery side) so he followed because muh state right or wrong.

He is more famous for his defeats and surrender actually. You could say he is a famous loser.
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>they postponed maintenance another week

>is this the majin saber gacha time?
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>>174345347
Arondight was given to Lancelot because he was unrivalled not because he was the son of the Milf of the Lake.

>>174345514
>only Servant in Zero that realizes Irisviel is evil as shit
He is pretty smart you know.
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>>174345642

i know it's not a nendo

this guy doesn't >>174345436
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>>174345560
My Room lines are on reddit, profile is on BL somewhere.
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>>174345821
>postponed 2 weeks in a row
>that's at the very least 6 quartz less
Getting more skilled with jewing I see
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>>174345825
Sure thing, but if he was so unrivalled why did he need a babby sword that had so many different effects when every other knight made do with just one at most?
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>malemaster still doesn't get any merch
wtf bros,I thought we are the superior one
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>>174345825

>He is pretty smart you know.

>the climax of Camelot is Lancelot getting his shit pushed in and realizing for once that he is, indeed, exactly the huge piece of shit that his son claims he is and that it really was his fault that Camelot collapsed and the truly sad part is he was only able to realize any of this because he was given the power of common sense by Lion King
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>>174346024
You got an anime
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I want to do weird things with Gawain like hold his hand!
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>>174345821
can they patch it without maintenance? are we getting the pre-ccc shit later now? what the fuck are they going to fill the week with?
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>>174345080
He probably is the best saber all around that we haven now though.
Mostly because he's got good CQC and a really solid NP that's got stuff for certain match-ups.
Besides his only competition is Sumanai, who has literally never won a fight against a servant and Rama, who we don't know enough about to say for sure if he's really strong or not.
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>>174346102
We're getting the CCC stuff tomorrow, and considering the weekly maint was postponed to the 26th, which is when the livestream is happening, we'll probably get CCC event then.
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>>174346083
Just wanna say thanks for bettering my opinion on the potato.
Used to hate him because he was a smug cunt and his fans where also smug cunts.
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>>174346135

>and Rama, who we don't know enough about to say for sure if he's really strong or not.

He took on the entire American side of pillar demons with only Nightingale as backup before the rest of the American servants showed up later on. Meanwhile, Lancelot needed to team up with all the other Knights of the Round Table.
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>>174346193

this, this is the baitiest of the bait Bride gachas, the new CCC stuff gacha comes after it
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>>174346102
>>174345926
I am amazed how you "people" can not fucking read.
http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/0411_rffS/
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>>174346135
>Arturia wank
>Nero wank
>Void
>Full power Altera
If you mean gameplay wise, pretty much.
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I really dislike the idea of "pseudo-Reality Marbles" like Nero and Ozzy's. If they had any kind of weakness then maybe it'd be fine, but as it stands they're basically exactly the same as Reality Marbles but cost less mana.
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>>174341449
Astruphofags BTFO
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>>174346316
>no maintenance this week
>no maintenance last week either
>that's 2 (two) weeks in a row
>DURRRRRR YOU CAN'T READ
fuck off shill
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>>174345705
Debuff Resistance, all dat, erryday.
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>>174346275
That's impressive, I haven't yet read through the Demon pillar summary yet.
I was mostly talking about his 2 other NP"s.
They're probably a Spear and bow of sort respectively since it said no matter what class he's summoned in he has the capability of Saber, Archer and Lancer.

>>174346325
Isn't Full power Altera less of a servant and more of a moon monster thing though?
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>>174346428

Ozzy has a real reality marble, what he did in America was summoning portions of it out using the power of the grail. Same as how Iskander can summon individual soldiers and Bucephalus out of his RM into reality and Archer does the same with his swords.
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Why is my king touching this whore?
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>>174346102
Go farm EXP or something.
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>>174346325
>all these character who are trash but if I add "wank" at the end it will surely mean they are strong lol
Your "wanked" Arturia says it's normally impossible to beat Lancelot
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>>174345441
ah alright, that's fair enough

was erring on the side of being skeptical given how a lot of the servant artworks were described as how the artist imagined the historical figure would look like, rather than based on their FGO designs
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>>174346428
Also RMs had to be earned by having a legitimately twisted mindset. PseudoRMs are handed out like fucking candy.
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How much time left for the event?
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>>174346554

>I was mostly talking about his 2 other NP"s.
They're probably a Spear and bow of sort respectively since it said no matter what class he's summoned in he has the capability of Saber, Archer and Lancer.

His other NP besides Brahmastra is just an assortment of celestial weapons from the Ramayana that he can access in any class. Spears, chakrams, bows and arrows, clubs, darts, etc. etc. They're all A rank NPs and he can use them all at full strength and skill despite being a Saber thanks to Martial Blessing.
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>>174346275
>making up shit again
I remember the whole "Herakles soloed pillars" too and that ended up being a bunch of bullshit too.
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Should I get the english NA version when it comes out or should I wait for an EU release?
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>>174346821
5 minutes
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>>174346428
I don't get why they felt the need to make a distinction really. Both of those work as RM's, given both Nero and Ozzy's characterization and that aren't entirely right in the head to begin with.
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>>174346554
We know what his NP is. He has his entire arsenal of stuff, including spears, bows, and other weapons. They could also be Noble Phantasms considering they're all named, famous weapons from Hindu legend.
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>>174346874

Read it. The rest of the American servants only showed up after the halfway point.
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>>174346238
You're welcome (I guess?). I'll admit that potato really is a smug cunt, but that's part of the reason why I like him.
Here's a cute potato for you!
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>>174346715
>Impying you've ever seen Fullpower Grand Saber Arturia
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>>174346843
So he's kinda like a Mini-Gil then, but he's actually good at wielding them?
That's pretty cool then actually. shame he already had an entry in the FGO mats and they didn't really cover what some of those other NP's are.
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>>174346930
Because the only difference is that one costs less to use and is thus better.
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>>174346554
>That's impressive, I haven't yet read through the Demon pillar summary yet.
Read it before you believe him, remember the whole Herakles thing that ended being not true at all.

>>174346843
>They're all A rank NPs and he can use them all at full strength
Yeah but we don't know what any of them even do.
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>>174346930
>>174346772

For the last time, Ozzy does have a RM and it's not special in any way. He does the exact same shit with it that every other RM user is able to do. The only reason he was able to summon all of Egypt into Camelot was because he had the power of the grail supporting him.

Nero's theater is literally just a buff for her and a nerf for her enemies. It has no special powers or effects other than that.
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>>174346526
>2017年4月19日(水) 15:00~ (予定)
>※メンテナンスの終了予定時間は前後することがございます。
So this is just some quick update or what?
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>>174346740
Just do it, Delight Works.
Hire one more intern to make buyable outfits and you can make more money than Monster Strike.
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>>174347071
>the whole Herakles thing that ended being not true at all.
Except it did.
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I just read the bits of Fragments about Ozzy and holy shit. People weren't kidding about the wank.
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>>174346989
>Arturia
Do you need to be reminded that it was Arthur who Solomon asked for help?
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>>174347146
Please understand that DW will go bankrupt if they do that.
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>>174347146
Out of business, please understand
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>>174347121
most likely it'll just end gudaguda2, do some bugfixes and add the bait gachas
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>>174347095
Being fair, other RMs have only one real effect. Ozzy's has a lot more.
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>>174347162
If you mean Herakles boosted 10 times over and helped by Hector and Medea, he sure "did".
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new silver and bronze when?
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>>174347202
His VA is not listed as Grand Saber, anon.

Although, I guess Arthur would be better than Lancelot as you say.
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A deal's a deal anon.
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>>174347321
I count getting boosted 10 times over when the servant container is nerfing him far more than that the same as him doing it by himself without help.
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>2 weeks of nothing
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not bad
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>>174346990
Pretty much, but all at A still means he is below Lancelot in terms of pure firepower, far below actually. Lancelot still has KoO and FSG in his bag too.
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>>174347303

Ozzy's RM has only one real effect too. It's literally just the prosperous Egypt of Ozzy's reign. It can't even reproduce or repair things that get destroyed or damaged in it, like his NP Sphinx which is gone forever if destroyed. The bonus effects like NP sealing and the poison are the boons of the Divine Spirits that lived in Egypt at the time.
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>>174347121
It's been superseded because this:

>【4/18(火)17:00追記】
>毎週水曜日に実施しております定期メンテナンスにつきまして、実施を再延期することといたしました。
次回定期メンテナンスの実施予定は以下となります。
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>>174347569
>below Lancelot
lol literally impossible.
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>>174347569
>Indian servants not being top shit
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>>174347569
>below Lancelot in terms of pure firepower
Lancelot literally doesn't have high level firepower
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>>174347529
still better than 4 weeks of nobu
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>>174347414
Don't resurrect dead memes.
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>>174347536
I don't even like her art because she shows too much. I always use her 1st sprite for the same reason.
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>>174347536
At least I don't have to worry about my daughteru catching a cold now.
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>>174347569
Having a wide assortment NP's is really good though.
It basically means that Disarming him means jack-shit, and it means he might have Anti-dragon shit, Anti-whatever shit, Basically he might have a specific weapon that really helps him in a specific match-up.
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>>174347239
>>174347289
I understand that they are a company designed to make as much money with as little effort possible, but it would be such a smart business decision.
>>
Don't reply, just report him.
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>>174347146
Alternate outfit will come after you grind your servant bond to lvl 100
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>>174347536
>>174347735
go away reddit
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>>174347365
Solomon was also so impressed by Lancelot that he begged Gudao to let him test Lancelot in Interlude 2
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>>174346286
What if I don't like these shitty alteregos
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>>174347606
It has those infinitely regenerating Divine Beasts and Ozzy.

Besides, my main point is that it's just completely overloaded with stuff.
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>>174347569

>KoO meme

Schrodinger's KoO means Lancelot will always have the most advanced weapons at any given point and therefore be able to defeat his enemies always

>FSG meme

Schrodinger's FSG means Lancelot will always be disguised as the exact right opponent to trick his enemy into not taking him seriously until he kills them
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>>174347414
What was that meme already?
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>>174347801
He's not posting spoilers so reporting him does no good
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>>174347848
Wait for swimsuit or Agartha
like me
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>Atalanta keeps talking shit to people in the Salmon Order when fighting pillars
No wonder she's an Evil cat.
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>>174347875
>Schrodinger's
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>>174347536
That somehow looks even more lewd now.
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>>174347930
Why is Taiga so sexual?
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>>174347095
>Ozzy does have a RM
But it's specifically described to not be one?
>he had the power of the grail supporting him.
But he specifically did not use the grail?
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>>174347875
>Schrodinger
That seems like the wrong term.
Isn't Schrodinger something being in two conflicting states at once because you're not able to confirm either?
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>>174347712
>A++ swordbeam
He can outright stomp Rama in firepower, but Rama could have something to defend. The biggest problem here is the could, we are in the same spot that we are with Gilgamesh and his STTGL inside the GoB.

>>174347786
Yeah he could have a lot of shit but we don't know what he actually has so we can't correctly gauge there usefulness. All we know is the rank and in terms of power A is outmatched by A++
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>>174347930
Anything about Lancelot is a spoiler to Zero. It's a bannable offence.
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>>174348064

>But it's specifically described to not be one?

It is specifically described as a Reality Marble, doofus. Read Fragments or fuck off. He didn't just spawn Egypt on top of Tokyo.

>But he specifically did not use the grail?

He did.
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High-tier RM when?
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>>174345387
Robert E Lee, he's famous basically for being the one super competent general in the south during American Civil War. Despite having less guys, less supplies, less everything, he managed to win or survive every time until almost the end.

He worked with a shit situation and made it work, until it didn't. Which is more impressive than how it sounds when you go through each battle.
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>>174347646
>forgetting Gilgamesh
lol

>>174347708
>Arjuna
Uhm...
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>>174347787
No anon DW is a small business that earns small profit almost all of the yen goes to nasu and takeuichi's new cars.
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>>174347930
Look at those deadeyes, she's just dead inside. Counter Guardian TAIGA when?
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>>174347930
Is the taigafag a Melvin supporter now?
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>>174348183
>Read Fragments or fuck off.
Right back at you.
>He did.
He didn't.
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>>174347829
Doesn't change the fact that he wanted Arthur first as you said. Lancelot who?

Also doesn't change him not being Grand Saber.

Also doesn't change Void being better.
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>That weapon, shot by Mahadeva's arms, can, without doubt consume in half the time taken up by a twinkling of the eyes the entire universe with all its mobile and immobile creatures. In the universe there is no being including even the deities, that are incapable of being slain by that weapon.
>not EX
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>174348218
If Adam was actually probably finished and Advicebron didn't defect, the black side would've had a much greater chance at success.
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>>174348268
Would /fgog/ honestly be seen driving this car?
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>>174348106
Rank doesn't mean firepower, you can literally have an A++ rice cooker to go with the EX ranked rice bag and it doesn't mean they're powerful.
Rank classifies mystery, what shows firepower is the type (anti-x)
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>>174348093

Melvin uses Schrodinger's Cat fallacies nonstop. Because the lore hasn't explicitly deconfirmed Lancelot being able to KoO anything other than aircraft carriers, he holds that KoO works on literally everything else as a result.

Also it is a reference to Schrodinger's Wizard in the DnD fandom who is a fallacious argument both for and against the wizard in gameplay on the basis that 'they could have x spell prepped or y artifact equipped at the exact moment a battle takes place'
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>>174348328
Pretty sure taiga fag is Melvin too
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>>174348252
>Equal of Karna
>Karna comapres him or is reminded of him to Seigfried
He should be pretty good.
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>>174348395
Ah I see.
Yeah he does that alot.
I think it's also called the "burdern of proof" vallaciy?
The claim doesn't have anything to proof it's true but at the same time there's not proof that it's untrue, and in that case a stalemate happens.
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>>174348339

>completely out of arguments
>trying to pretend Ozzy spawned Egypt on top of Tokyo now
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>>174348386
I only drive 15 year old shitboxes, so no.
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>>174348498
>should be
Higashide saw to that, anon.
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>>174343589
>gawain and lolis
lolis are for raising not for raping
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>>174348376
>Red side get to finish their prep
>Black side keep missing shit they need for plot reason

GKM would stomp HGB in a minute,but of course le ebil villain get to win first
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>>174347787
Ironically, alternate outfits should be way simple and cheapper that making new servants from zero, is just making the sprites as the animation and everything else is already there.
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>>174347875
>Lancelot will always have the most advanced weapons
>the guns are hard to get meme
He may not have nukes at all times but literally sending him to steal weapons from the Mafia or the police is easy as fuck and doable in any country around the globe.

>Lancelot will always be disguised
That's not really the point of FSG, the point is the enemy can't adapt and any further clashes aftee the first one can end in Lancelot exploiting the disguise to beat his opponent.
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>>174348538
well, it does have an Artoria decal on it
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>>174348328
>>174348421
Nope. Fuck Melvin if I didn't hate Lancelot now I sure as fucking hell do now.
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>>174348498
>should be
>Gandiva is just fire arrows
>Pashupata only works properly on Divine Servants
Uhm...
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>>174348328
Not a Taigafag, I just felt like the taiga smirk
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>>174348629
Honestly if Avicebron had let it be finished then the only way I see anything going is Karna using Vasavi to kill it. It fits the lore of wasting Vasavi on an opponent besides the one Karna wanted to fight and of being used to kill a nigh-unkillable enormous monster that would have annihilated Karna's army if not stopped.
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>>174348636

>He may not have nukes at all times but literally sending him to steal weapons from the Mafia or the police is easy as fuck and doable in any country around the globe.

Mafia and police weapons aren't shit, couldn't even kill Saber with a KoO smg.

>That's not really the point of FSG, the point is the enemy can't adapt and any further clashes aftee the first one can end in Lancelot exploiting the disguise to beat his opponent.

Why didn't he just FSG Agravain then? Why didn't he just FSG Mashu? Why didn't he just FSG Ozzy? Why didn't he just FSG Numeral Gawain? Why didn't he just FSG the Lion King?
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>>174348636
It's not as easy getting weapons as you think. Kotomine had to import his guns for lancelot since japan doesn't have many guns, and no bombs.
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>>174348768
>Basing their ability off gameplay
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>>174348768
Gandiva is machinegun-rate cruise missiles that are practically homing, Pashupata works on anything but has a much higher chance of working on the divine.
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>>174348972
>not EX
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>>174348395
>Because the lore hasn't explicitly deconfirmed Lancelot being able to KoO anything other than aircraft carriers, he holds that KoO works on literally everything else as a result.
That's because the ability itself is said to be limitless in more than one occassion. The problem here is not what he can use but what he can't use. I know you hate facts but hating them doesn't make them any less true.

>>174348525
>The claim doesn't have anything to proof it's true
There are many claims saying KoO has no limits but Lancelot's own brain. The ability itself is limitless, the one holding it back in any case would be Lancelot.
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>>174346083
Literally kill yourself, landwhale. No one gives a shit about your nasty fetishes or your manlet jobber.
>>
You're tasked by the translation team to make one change to the script of Septem in order to try salvage it for the Western audience. What do you do?

I'd add another scene after the ending where it reveals Nero has been narrating it to Da Vinci as a post-mission report the whole time, with Da Vinci pointing out that it seems somewhat "different" to what everyone else said before Nero brushes her aside and stammers out that it was all true as she runs away.
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>>174348768
>Pashupata only works properly on Divine Servants
Nah, it only has a bonus against Divinity, it could still work on anyone.
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>>174348931
Those are both from mats though?
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>Dobson hid how much he gets on patreon
>23 backers
my sides
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>>174349094
Remove Nero
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>>174348851
Full grown one specifically need multiple top servants to be defeated,and the one who killed it get a curse iirc
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>you make more money selling outfits for 3000 yen a pop than making limited servants that requires 300X amount of yen spent rolling
>X being the number of rolls and more often than not X is bigger than 100
>outfit fags thinks buyable outfit will make more money than new limited characters
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>>174349154
Who?
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>>174349094
I'd do what you did. I know at least one fanfic that has Nero musing about what she'll call the play she's writing about the events that are happening, and ending up calling it Septem.
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>>174347869
Those beasts are also created with authority of his gods. Their regeneration is also owed to authority. It's not that weird.
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>>174349094
This could work.
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>>174349082
>That's because the ability itself is said to be limitless in more than one occassion
No it hasnt, even the entry on the ability talks about the limitations using a ship he can't see as a weapon. If they are discussing limitations then they never described it as limitless.

Things he's used it on so far are pretty damn basic anyway, it's not no limits fallacy
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>>174349094
Just delete the entire script.
It's not like anything of value or worth happened in Septem whatsoever.
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>>174349082
I've never actually seen it be called limitless. And if the limit is Lancelot's own brain then that's a pretty enormous limitation considering he's a moron.
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>>174349335
>say it's limitless
>oh here's a limit to it.
Doesn't that seem to imply the "limitless" thing is a hyperbole to make it sound cooler? Like saying Rho Aias "is immune to projectiles" only to have it get broken by gae bulg, or saying Durindana can't b stopped unless you pull out Rho Aias.
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How many servants completely change outfits through their ascensions?
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>>174348872
>Mafia and police weapons aren't shit, couldn't even kill Saber with a KoO smg.
Because she happened to stumble upon something that helped her close the gap, a big ass truck. She has A AGI and Instinct too which puts her as one of the best in terms of reaction time.

>Why didn't he just FSG Agravain then? Why didn't he just FSG Mashu?
He states he doesn't want to kill either, read Camelot. He is there to apprehend them.
>Why didn't he just FSG Ozzy?
The point was to show his power not kill his potential ally.
>Why didn't he just FSG the Lion King?
He was going to, read Camelot before you shitpost.

>>174348921
So you are just going to pretend the Yakuza don't exist?
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>>174349479
Mary and Anne, Babbage
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>>174349154
/v/ pls
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>>174349479
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>>174346428
Would The Golden Land be a Reality Marble
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>>174349449
Pretty much. A lot of lore in Nasuverse people take literally for the sake of having "consistent and concrete" and "powerlevels.
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I miss the ayo hol up posting from Shinjuku
I wasn't really sure that would be possible but I keep forgetting that /fgog/ is always in a horrible place when content droughts happen
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>>174347536
Jack design is so bad that this looks like an improvement. But her first sprite is still the best one anyway.
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>>174349335
>If they are discussing limitations then they never described it as limitless.
The entire point of the question was to ask Nasu of the limits of the NP as it had none before and people were going wild with it. Nasu and Urobuchi pretty much said the only limit is Lancelot.

>>174349391
>I've never actually seen it be called limitless.
>Not only that, even ordinary scrap iron became full of the immense prana fit to compete with other Noble Phantasms once it came into Berserker’s hands. Unlike how the golden knight owned numerous Noble Phantasms, Berserker’s Noble Phantasm is endless.
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Questions 02: What's the limit of Berserker's ability to "turn any object into Noble Phantasm"? Will it work on a battleship? Why not just hijack a computer and become an existence like Sky*et... please put a stop to my overflowing dreams. [Kyoto · Musashibō-san]

Nasu: In theory it's limited to objects that are weapons. An aircraft carrier's role as weapon transportation is ranked higher than it being a weapon, so it shouldn't be counted as a weapon. Something like that. What's your opinion on this, Uro-san?
Uro: For Berserker, the Noble Phantasm can only be activated for things he recognizes as "this is a weapon." In that case, if he is skilled in wrestling, can he... turn a steel chair into a Noble Phantasm?

So essentially If Lancelot thinks he can fight someone with it well enough it's a D-ranked NP, or if something is more of something else than a weapon in it's current state.
So something like a Shield might not work because it's purpose of protecting it's user ranks higher than it's ability to bludgeon things.
That said considering the fact that he KoO'd a pole and a tree branch it basically works on anything the author wants it to at the moment.
So If Melvin where the author he could theoretically use KoO on anything that he hasn't failed to KoO before. but if say, YOU where the author, you could make it fail on anything that it hasn't worked on before.
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>>174349732
It's taken literally since we're autists. It's obviously flower language most of the time.
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>>174349449
>basing this on Emiya's chinese knockoff version of Rho Aias
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>>174349703
Too OP plz nerf
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>>174349479
Summer servants,Void
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>>174349367
Nero is a Beast and demon pillars
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>>174349809
Endless as in it can theoritically KoO an unless number of objects. not that it works on everything, hell it might even fail to KoO a weapon because the weapon has a concept that stops him from doing so.
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>>174348394
Too bad the novels say mystery = power.
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>>174348328
No, and I don't really care about thread drama at all.
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>>174349449
Or calling it Unlimited Blade Works despite the fact he explicitly summons it with only a thousand swords pre-made and needs to spend mana to trace any more when inside of it according to other materials.
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>>174349703
>can't kill her unless you prove that she doesn't exist
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>>174349828
Flowery language, you mean. Though probably flower language as well sometimes.
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>spending hours posting meaningless arguments about lancelot everyday since months
Melvin is going to feel dumb in a few years when he grows up, thinking back about all the time he wasted
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>>174349828
No, see, this is how it works. If it makes Lancelot look better, like the whole "impossible stances" thing, it's obviously meant to be taken literally. If it makes Lancelot look worse, like Siegfried being described as the pinnacle of swordsmen, then it's just hyperbole.
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>>174349820
>That said considering the fact that he KoO'd a pole and a tree branch
You forgot chopsticks, radars and decoy flares too. None of them are actual weapons
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>>174349981
>everyone older than Lancelot is now more powerful than him
If you say so
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>>174350000
It's alright Sister Abigail can handle her by herself
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>>174350152
As long as he keeps getting people like you assblasted I think i'd say it's worth it.
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Wait, wasn't his NP Knight of Honor? What the fuck is Knight of Owner.
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>>174349094
I don't think you could change all of Septem into a cosmic horror story with Nero subtly warping the memories and perceptions of everyone with just one additional scene.
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Just because something is limitless doesn't mean it can reach infinite value :^)
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>>174350269
Cuckbait
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>>174349820
>but if say, YOU where the author, you could make it fail on anything that it hasn't worked on before
By definition it can't even fail because if Lancelot doesn't see it as weapon he is not even going to try. He was going to KoO Invisible Air for fucks sake.
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>>174349484

>He states he doesn't want to kill either, read Camelot. He is there to apprehend them.
>The point was to show his power not kill his potential ally.
>He was going to, read Camelot before you shitpost.

So he can only use FSG if he's going to kill the target? This is some weak logic.
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>>174350152
>about lancelot everyday since months
>when he grows up, thinking back about all the time he wasted
>still comes to the general regardless
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>>174350158
>Siegfried being described as the pinnacle of swordsmen.
To this day that still doesn't make sense to me atleast. what does it even mean to be the/a pinnacle of swordsmen?
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>>174350290
I would say people being assblasted are the one responding to him, personally I couldn't care less I'm just noticing how he is giving his lifetime away
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What's wrong with the Fate/Stay Night anime adaptions?
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>>174350498
It means Siegfried (real siegfried not sieg) can beat every other swordsman in existence in a straight swordfight.

Prove me wrong.
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>>174350498
That you're the top swordsman. Honestly, anon, this is some basic shit.
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>>174350547
shut up and post more seiba faggot
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Genuine question for Melvin:

If Lancelot can KoO things like the air (Invisible Air, we also see him do it in the intro to F/Z) and the ground (Marmyadose CE), then why doesn't he do that when he's actually fighting enemies? It goes without saying that he'd basically instantly win if he did so.
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>>174350547
Not enough Kawai
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>>174350385
I don't see how he would benefit at all from it in those situations.
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>>174350590
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>>174350368
>He was going to KoO Invisible Air for fucks sake.
wasn't that only in the Anime?
I don't remember the Novel saying anything about it, All I remember is that "he grabbed hold of Excalibur, Saber realized what that meant so she kicked him away so he couldn't KoO it"
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>>174350609
It's cause he's too dumb.
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Why doesn't Lancelot just KoO Saber herself? She's a weapon too.
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>>174350639
that's more like it post more you dirty little slut.
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>>174350630

Then it sure as hell doesn't sound like "the point is the enemy can't adapt and any further clashes after the first one can end in Lancelot exploiting the disguise to beat his opponent."
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>>174350206
after blowing so much and getting jack shit on hijikata I'm probably just going to hoard for her now unless the other EoR arcs put out things more interesting than what they've shown thus far
thankfully I have multiple whales in my friend list, one of which has him up to NP3
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>>174350609
>then why doesn't he do that when he's actually fighting enemies?
Because he is kind of dumb just like all Servants. Ever wonder why Cu doesn't spam reverse causality + disengage?
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>>174350558
>>174350559
But then why doesn't he have an In-universe skill that implies something similar like EAM?
I know EAM is a meme as a skill but it's got weight in lore since it does basically confirm, "out of this group he was the best"
Zero came out before Apoc right? So the skill existed at that time right?

That said I can't exactly disprove it, the only swordsman Siegfried has faught before in any capacity of a sword was when Sieg fought Mo-san, and i remember him shoving her shit in so hard Kairi needed a CS just to even the playing field.
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>>174350309
Translator made a mistake, noticed recently, corrected. Knight of Owner is the actual name.
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>>174350610
Fukusawa though
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>>174350838
Because Higashide.
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>>174350368
>He was koooing invisible air
It was excalibur he was trying to grab, not the air. This is a pretty recent shitpost I'm seeing often.
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Should I roll for Gilgamesh?
He seems fun in Carnival, though I prefer Gil better.

Why can't they release a teen form with the plus points of both versions?
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>>174350558
Has no way of defending against Nine Lives in a plot-armor free fight
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Reminder that as UNRIVALLED Lancelot is the best at all fighting skills ever, including ones like Tsubame Gaeshi and Crane Wing Three Realm. He could destroy literally every Servant in an instant if he wanted to.
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>>174350838
EAM is a meme skill that only works on fame. Lancelot was famed for his skill while Siegfried was famed for other shit. Lancelot's never had a descriptor like "pinnacle of swordsmen" anyway so if he takes narration from the novels to be canon then Siegfried is better than him at swording.
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Would you like Mashu better if she was a DFC washboard?
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>>174350838
>Siegfried = Sigurd
>Because both of them are the best swordsmen ever they can't EAM since they're equally the best. and existed in the same era
Only way I can make sense of it.
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>>174350738
Except in those cases he wanted to apprehend or show off, not beat or kill.

He used FSG true ability once and almost got 2 Servants to kill each other and also killed all of Kiritsugu team. Now if he had a sniper rifle at that moment he could even have killed Iskander. It all depends on the prep time.

>>174350641
He grabbed Invisible Air in the novel too.
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>>174349479
Tristan
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>>174351064
>Except in those cases he wanted to apprehend or show off, not beat or kill.
source
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>>174350609
>Marmyadose CE
It's not Marmyadose and I refuse to let him shitpost that into acceptance. Marmyadose was one of the things that it specified had not been seen in GO yet.
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>>174351064

>Except in those cases he wanted to apprehend or show off, not beat or kill.

But he could easily just KoO their weapons from a surprise state and then wrestle them down with his superior strength. It's incredibly useful for apprehending and showing off.
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>>174350609
>It goes without saying that he'd basically instantly win if he did so.
Why. Grabbing a clump of earth doesn't make you an earthbender, it just means you throw dirt. Invisible air is just a c rank np, it's not all the air in the world. It can only be used as a weapon once, it's only meant to obscure things. It's not that good.
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>>174350838
>"out of this group he was the best"
It's not out of a group, it's out of his era, it has nothing to do with being the best swordsman, only the best fighter in their age.
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>>174351064
>He grabbed Invisible Air in the novel too.
Which page/chapter/volume did that happen in?
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>>174350838
>needing active skill stat to measure one's strength

Well I guess servant can't fight for shit because no servant have skill called Basic Fighting Ability EX
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>tried and failed to roll every single 5* archer released, though Ishtar rolls got me Nightingale
>stuck with Nobu and NP3 Redman
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>>174351007
If he wasn't obsessed with Saber, would he have won the fourth Holy Grail War for Kariya?
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>>174350838
> the only swordsman Siegfried has faught before in any capacity of a sword was when Sieg fought Mo-san, and i remember him shoving her shit in so hard Kairi needed a CS just to even the playing field.
That was because of his armor,not his swordskills
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>>174351195
>have Gil and Merlin
>have no need for any other Archer
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>>174351014
Siegfried had one chance to do the impossible like Lancelot did in Zero and all he did was getting hit in his vital spots over 70 times.

>>174350838
Except Mordred is like the shittiest of the Round Table.
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>>174351214

She couldn't even land a hit on him AFTER Kairi used the command spell to buff her, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>174351214
He was still beating her, and Mordred's Instinct warned her that she would have absolutely no chance against him once he got used to the transformation on his second time using it.
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>>174351064
Nice citations

>>174351214
It wasn't seigfried that fought her anyway, it was seig. Who was said to have less skill at that point.

Mo even wanted to finish him since she knew she wouldn't stand a chance if he got any closer to his real ability.
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>>174351267
>Except Mordred is like the shittiest of the Round Table.
Nah, I'm pretty sure that's Bedivere. Not because he's that shitty but because the others are all basically DBZ characters whereas he's DB-tier.
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>>174351267
Too bad, he's the pinnacle of swordsmen, novels confirm.
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>>174351204
Yes. Lancelot's love-hate obsession for seiba is too stronk.
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>>174351308
>>174351315
She had no way of harming him because of his armor,and that's why she was surprised by it,which let him get a hit on her.

After the CS she started overpowering him,which is why he opted for Balmung.
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>>174351014
>>174351187
Makes sense.
I don't exactly buy it yet since that was just one throw-away line while mats and narration consistently sucks off other characters like Lan-chan.
Not even a huge jetfag but Consistency is kinda important for these things, it seems like an example case of flowery language to hype up a character. Much like people saying "oh king arthur is most certainly the strongest saber" or shit like that.
If it makes it into Materials I might have to consider it with more weight though.
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>>174351267
>get nigh invincible skin
>b-but he have to parry it even though he can just block it easier with his skin

Are you retarded?
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>>174351046
Part of her charm to me is that she has that nurturing motherly shape.
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>>174350985
It actually doesn't matter. As long as Siegfried views the fight as a battle between swordsman, he will win. Even if it seems impossible he will still win.
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>>174351183
>Berserker threw away the machine guns, trapping the blade of Invisible Air between his bare hands before her eyes.
Volume 4

>>174351163
>Agravain is surrounded by Knights
>your team consists of 4 Servants
>Ozzy had Nitocris arouns
No, all that would have been outright retarded.
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>>174350940
Anon if you like a character just roll.
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>>174351436
She didn't at all start overpowering him, he went for Balmung because he was on a time limit.
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>>174351291
what a fucking lanklet lmao

look at those noodle arms

Did fucking CLAMP draw that
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>>174351586
he was getting pressured pretty hard
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>>174351436

>She had no way of harming him because of his armor,and that's why she was surprised by it,which let him get a hit on her.

She could harm him after the CS thanks to her STR modifer activating and boosting her strength above A rank. That's the only reason she even kept fighting him.

>After the CS she started overpowering him,which is why he opted for Balmung.

No she fucking didn't. She got pissed off and impatient because she wasn't landing any hits even with the CS buff and knew she needed to off him before he got used to fighting as Siegfried so she used Clarent, and he used Balmung in response.
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why isn't Agravain the most beloved character by now?
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>>174351267
>Siegfried had one chance to do the impossible like Lancelot did in Zero and all he did was getting hit in his vital spots over 70 times.
Why would he bother defending though?
That'd be like trying to go toe-toe with your equal when you could just stall them out for an easy win. why waste time dodging or avoid hits when you can attack an take scratch damage that you or your master heals up almost instantly.
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>>174349479
The Book, Saber Alter, Cleopatra
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>>174351451
The point I'm making is that Melvin will use flowery language and take it as canon whenever it suits him, and he'll dismiss it whenever he doesn't. Like that whole thing about KoO being "endless" and the "impossible by skill or miracle" thing.
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>>174351518
He literally can't defend against instantaneous homing strikes that go for his back and adapt anti-dragon properties
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>>174351660
He looks like a Zouken clone and isn't as handsome as the other KotRT
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>Fafnir is labeled as above servants level by Roman
>Siegfried is above Fafnir level
>Siegfried is above servants level
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>>174351774
>literally
Except he's the pinnacle of swordsmen, this is canon. If another swordsman can do it so can he. Therefore even anti-dragon attacks do not matter in a fight between swordsmen because will be able to defend against them, befitting his title.
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>>174351559

>Agravain is surrounded by Knights

Those knights are nothing to him, if he'd FSG'd he could have knocked out Agravain instantly and killed all the other knights in an instant. EZ

>your team consists of 4 Servants

He was planning to fight every single of them if he had to, why didn't he just get a head start and disarm/knock out one or two of them, like Mashu, from the get go? EZ

>Ozzy had Nitocris arouns

Nitocris is irrelevant as an opponent, all he has to do is kill Ozzy and all of Egypt would just stop existing along with him. EZ
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when was the last time you had fun playing FGO
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What's going on in this thread.
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>>174351660
he's pretty good
>>174351645
yes,that's literally what I was saying at statement one

and I discreetly remember him getting overwhelmed but who knows,maybe you're right,at the very least he was got pushed back

Point is,he's dangerous mostly because of his armor,not his swordskills
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>>174351976
Shinjuku.
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>>174352001
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>>174351886
>so can he
>he can use NL
Siegtard
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>>174351774
>and adapt anti-dragon
Nine lives can do that?
I know it can shoot off a bunch of attacks at super high speeds and it can home in when used with a Bow(?) but I didn't know it could adapt anti-dragon properties.
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>>174352034
His sword skills are a massive part of it too. He's really really fucking good with a sword.
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>>174351976
When I could actually play.
emus when?
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>>174352072
oh yeah, Sumanai couldn't go with you for the final battle in Orelands because Jeanne could fuck with his Dragon properties.

Wonder what would've happened if he didn't have that fore-sight.
Would he have turned into Fafnir or something?
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>>174352078
He can though. It's literally in the text. Just prove me wrong.
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>>174350547
I find it strange every FSN adaptation omitted more and more. UBW didn't even show Shirou's relationship with Kiritsugu and his magecraft abilities, for example.
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>Melvin(False) had jumped ship on Sumanai
please don't go down the Karna route.
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>>174352034
I want Akkun so badly.
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>>174352230
Yes,but so are pretty much most of the Saber Class Servants

Difference is they don't have super Armor,mitigating most damage to scratches.Which is where his true asset is
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>>174352115
Nine Lives is high grade bullshit it literally adapts to anything, supposed to be at ''instant'' speeds and can be used with ''everything'' but since Herc specializes in killing beasts the one he uses mostly is ''anti-phantasmal species'' which includes dragons.
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Yo, what's going on in this thread?
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>>174352001
Dispite being described as Lanky or thin he's pretty huge when he often shows up.

>>174352492
This is mostly correct.
His biggest asset is that he's basically invincible, that asset gets boosted more because he gets to go on a pure offensive with above average(?) Swordsmanship.
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>>174352492
Siegfried is a cut above other Sabers in terms of skill, just like Li is a cut above other Lancers. They're some of, if not the best in their class.
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>>174352473

Arturia go to bed it's like 4:00 pm in bongland a NEET like you shouldn't even be up until 6:00
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>>174351669
>why waste time dodging or avoid hits when you can attack an take scratch damag
He didn't attack though, he just ate all of it.

And he was blocking before that.
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Is there anyone that can even beat Cu? He's the fastest Servant confirmed by F/SN. If he used 100% of his power he would be able to beat anyone by speed blitzing them.
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>>174352115
>Nine lives can do that?
>By the way, the Shooting of a Hundred Heads that Heracles mainly uses is the anti-Phantasmal Species version, which is like nine dragon-type homing lasers fired simultaneously.
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>>174350940
Teen Gil is the point of his life where he's at his worst.
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>>174352231
when the chink finished to eat his dogs
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>>174352001
Idiots reply to Melvin, like always.
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>>174352640
Servants with high luck
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>>174352590
>above average(?) Swordsmanship.
In Apocrypha he was stated to be just a little less skilled than Karna. I'm not sure how much that holds up with Karna getting wanked recently and Siegfried not, but at the very least that puts him well above just plain "above-average".
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>>174352251
>Just prove me wrong.
Kojirou lost to Saber in a fair and square match.

There goes your pinnacle of swordmen meme

>>174351810
>Lancelot is said to be the greatest threat
>even after you meet Fafnir and LoD Vlad
>Lancelot is above above Servant level
No wonder he can EASILY take out other Servants.
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>>174352640
Gilgamesh seems to be able to chain him
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>>174352530
>>174352683
Huh, neat.
But if they're Similar to a dragon-type attack, could Siegfried's natural Dragon slaying skill kick-in?
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>>174352737

Siegfried is also said to be a bad match-up for Arturia in general. I guess she can't match his natural defenses and there's no real guarantee Excalibur would be strong enough to kill him if Clarent Blood Arthur couldn't.
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>>174352601
>Siegfried is a cut above other Sabers in terms of skill
ehhh,he's never really shown anything to suggest this
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>>174352845
Read >>174352737
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>>174352693
I can't resist his Baiting Taunt EX
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>>174352590
>above average(?) Swordsmanship.
His swordskill was described as "swordmanship that long surpassed mankind"
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>>174352826
Kojirou isn't the pinnacle of swordsmen though. He's really good and better than Saber (and therefore better than other Servants like Mordred and Lancelot) but he isn't the pinnacle like Siegfried is.

Keep trying, faggot.
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>>174352845

The narration describes him as equal in fame and legend as the entire Round Table combined.
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>>174352915
Man I miss this series.
Wish there was more of it to watch.
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>>174352640
Reminder
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>>174348328
Everyone, I have an announcement to make. I have been deceiving you all.

I'm afraid I am not merely the Taigafag. I am also, in fact, the flustered saber fanficfag. I know this may come as a shock to you.

But I am not just the Taigafag and the fanficfag. It is with a heavy heart I must tell you that I am also the Gilfag, and have been for some time.

But I have another confession to make. I am not just the Taigafag, the fanficfag, and the Gilfag. I'm sorry to admit that I am also the anti-Gilfag. And the jetfag. And the anti-jetfag. And the Musashifag. And the Medbfag.

In addition, to my unending shame, I am also Melvin, the summaryfag, the Tamamo whale, the the Formerly Extella spoilers, a redditor, the cuckposter, the brain-treatment Nerofag, the anon that hates the brain-treatment Nerofag, the DUDE shitposter, the Lizfag, a female, a mother, the Guan Yu 5* when poster, the RotK poster, the head of Google's customer support, Kinoko Nasu, the write-up anon, the Gawainposter, the chuunifag, a secondary, the Heaven's Feel canonposter, a tertiary, a whale that pretends to be F2P, a DW shill, the head of the Yakuza, a hero of justice, and (You)

I hope you can find it in your hearts to forgive me.
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>>174351145
>Marmyadose was one of the things that it specified had not been seen in GO yet.
Yeah and Gawain is totally a 3* isn't he?
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Does Fate/Apocrypha deserve the hate?
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>>174353004
That doesn't mean he is weaker than Altera. It just means he backed off for some unknown reason x. Unless you can prove the unknown reason x = he can't beat Altera, then you are wrong and Cu is the strongest Servant.
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>>174352935
I mean shit, didn't the whole KotRT get described as beyond humans?
It's kinda the whole point of a servant to be "beyond" humans.
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>>174353025
They edited the Gawain thing and reprinted it and immediately apologised on twitter. They have not done that for TM Chaldea Ace.
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>>174353041

Yes. It sidelines a fantastic premise to focus on a romance and generic self-insert character plotline that is so poorly written it can't support the narrative and it all basically falls apart in volume 2 when Jeanne and Sieg meet.
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>>174352841
He'd might have a higher chance of deflecting them but he'd be dead if any one of them hits him.
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>>174353086
Yeah but Siegfried is better than the Knights of the Round too. So if the Knights of the Round have surpassed humans, Siegfried has surpassed those that have surpassed humans.
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>>174352942
>Kojirou isn't the pinnacle of swordsmen though.
He is stated to be the pinnacle of swordsmen though. Read the VN.

Your whole meme got shat on.

>>174352640
>I run away when a real threat comes in
WEW

>>174352737
Karna in Apocryphha materials is stated to be around the level of Achilles in skill, yeah, that same guy who couldn't handle Amakusa.
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>>174353041
The last three volumes deserve all the hate they get and much more
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ITT: everyone pretends to be Melvin.
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>>174352968
>>174352901
My argument is unchanged.

Kojiro literally achieved semi True Magic with his godlike skill

Karna managed to boost the rank of his attacks through his great skill.

Herc can boost every weapon to it's maximum through his skill-based NP.

Lancelot managed to catch a full force strike from another swordsman with his bare hands,despite an unfavourbale position through his skill.

What has Siegfried done through his skill ?

Other than achieve the Skill " Pathetic Meme" EX,nothing
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I remember when Jetfag was around. Back then the biggest sticking point was that Lancelot's stats could go to EX rank if he had enough mana from his master due to Kariya not supplying enough. Oh and the swordbeam wanking.
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Dunno if anyone posted this yet.
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>>174353182
F/A was written years after so Kojirou is no longer a pinnacle of swordsmen, only Siegfried is. Keep with the times gramps, your information is outdated.
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>>174352935
>can't do the impossible
>literally did worse against Karna than Gawain did
kek nice meme Servant you go there.

>>174353172
>Yeah but Siegfried is better than the Knights of the Round too.
>beaten by CBA
JUST
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>>174353162
Well Nine lives is between E-A+ depending on what he uses it with/how he uses it?
An A+ Anti dragon is about, equvilent to something slightly stronger than a regular A-ranked NP I think.
So yeah if he gets hit by them he's probably dead if he doesn't deflect most of them.
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That Reddit husbando project has a demo now. Should I download and play it? Y/N
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>>174353276
>What has Siegfried done through his skill ?
Become the pinnacle of swordsmen which means he is automatically better than everyone else you listed.
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>>174353321
>literally did worse against Karna than Gawain did
By that logic Lancelot<Artoria. since Lancelot died to her in battle once.
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>>174353353
Which husbandos does it have? The ones from the Jeanne Alter event or other ones? This is important
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10 QUARTZ!!?!!?!?!?!? How is DW not out of BUSINESS HOLY SHIT 10 QUARTZ AAA
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>>174353424
>Become the pinnacle of swordsmen
And also get hit 70 times in his vital spots when Gawain wasn't hit once by the same enemy.
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>>174353424
The pinnacle of memes
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>>174353489
They barely avoided going out of business with this. Praise their generosity!
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>>174353182
>Karna in Apocryphha materials is stated to be around the level of Achilles in skill, yeah, that same guy who couldn't handle Amakusa.
>He possesses power and skill that isn’t inferior to that of Achilles within the Red camp
>isn't inferior

This translates as "equal to or greater than"
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>>174353013
I pardon (You)

It's not your fault, it's god he made you jewish.
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>>174353487
Cu, Roman, Emiya, and Merlin are the only ones that I remember.
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Mama!
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>>174353479
Except the reason why he lost was stated to be his Master, unlike Cuckfried.
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>>174353353
Look anon I want to get fucked by my husbando like any other fag, but even so I'm still not THAT desperate to use something made by reddit.
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Could someone beat Alcides with:
>Kavasha and Kundala+Armor of Fafnir+Pelt of Nemean Lion for defense
>God Hand + Crying Warmonger for multiple lives and getting stronger with taken damage
>Avalon for blocking and regen
>Dromeus Kometes + Enfer Château d'If for speed
>From Hell + Goddess of War + Saint War Order for powerup
>Dual wielding EA and EXcalibur
>Ionioi Heitaroi + Gate of Babylon for mob
?
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Stop it you guys girls and others
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Siegfried wank is so novel i can't even hate it.
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>>174353661
I just want to see how bad it is. I don't even want to fuck husbandos.
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>>174353636
>meme50
muhdick
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How can Kojiro be the pinnacle when he lost against this tittymonster?
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>>174353575
>equal to or greater than
The fact that he is considered to be a maybe equal instantly means he is not much better.
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>>174353679
>be Lancelot
>KoO all of the above
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>>174353636
Can't see shit on twitter. Please repost it on imgur.
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Why the fuck are you all calling it KoO now
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>>174353858
>steals KoO
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>>174353770
stream it then
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>>174353641
But Karna lost because of his master AND he didn't have his armor.
You can't compare Siegfried vs Karna with Gawain vs Karna since it was two completely different Karna's.
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>>174353679
>>174353914
Lancelot can KoO the Universe and negate all the effects of Alcides NP then BP the Universe and kill him.
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>>174353840
different universe anon
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>>174353850
Except that's literally not what it says. Assuming that he's maybe equal is entirely on you. All it explicitly confirms is that Karna isn't worse than Achilles, and everything we've seen since pretty handily confirms he's better. Unless you can provide solid evidence that they actually are equal, then fuck off.
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>>174353895
Because its Knight of Owner. Knight of Honor was a misstranslation.
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>>174353754
ever time Siegfried's wankers come around again it's always the same one line spammed again and again,except unlike Melvin,they actually believe what they're saying
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>>174353840
How can he lose if he was never real?
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>>174353985
He can't KoO shit if KoO gets taken from him :^)
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>>174354012
An eight year old mistranslation?
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>>174353926
>Sumanai vs Karna arguments are already starting
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great game
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>>174353926
>But Karna lost because of his master
Sorry but I didn't see Karna stop moving mid fight.

>You can't compare Siegfried vs Karna with Gawain vs Karna since it was two completely different Karna's.
It was the same Karna in terms of skill, in fact Foxtail Karna had better stats.
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>>174353878
http://imgur.com/a/rO3lz

Just for (You) anon.
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>>174353753
>my favorite character is powerlevel-wise a piece of shit.

It feels good.
I don't have to worry about stretching meaningless contradicting statments in a dicksucking contest.
I can just appreciante the fact that besides his obvious faults he still remains the best boy.
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>>174354025
I'm pretty sure that one guy who's going on about it being definitive is just a shitposter.
Actually i'm pretty sure that 90% of the people in this discussion is just shitposting..
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>Has a twin sister
the fuck
>Killed his own son and his sisters son
Shame Alkeides won't get his revenge
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>>174353895
Memes and is the correct translation

>>174354069
Just like how there exists mistranslations centuries older, yes.
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>>174354005

>and everything we've seen since pretty handily confirms he's better.

You mean, absolutely nothing confirms it? The one interaction their NPs had in Apocrypha was a stalemate.
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>>174354069
Yep. The English translation is based off of the Chinese translation of the Japanese book.
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>>174353353
Eh, go ahead and take one for the team. I kind of want to see if it's at least hilariously bad instead of regular bad.
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>>174354103
>that kindergarten student colour pencil level art
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>>174354005
>he can't provide evidence that Karna is superior
kek, so he is not inferior but not superior either, guess they are equal.
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>>174354095
It's less of a Karna vs Sumanai and more of a "You can't really compare these two fights because the situations where so different"
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Please don't start shitposting about Karna and Siegfried. I love them and they don't deserve it.
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>>174354103
hory shit
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>>174354167
Can you translate the rest of the page?
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>>174354103
Will the Redman suffering ever end?
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>>174354167

What are you on about?
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What are the fan terminology or translations that you don't agree with?
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>>174354334
Yeah lets shitpost Achilles
Been a while
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>>174354103
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>>174354291
Look at this smug fucking incubus
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>>174354378
It's only been a few days.
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>>174354103
Jesus, is this real?
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which one should i choose
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>>174354169
>>174354192
But "honor" even fit better with the little descriptive subtitle that the NP had. It was Owner? I can't wrap my head around this it makes no grammatical sense to me.
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Which Servants are mightiest of all?
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>>174354371
Saber stats make no sense
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>"""""pinnacle"""""" of swordmen
>no EAM
WEW
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>>174354158
amen
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>>174354489
Vlad

>>174354490
He owns things so a knight(him) can't die with empty hands.
Because he owns everything.
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>>174354489
Jesus Christ.
Go Jekyll. He looks the most disinterested.
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>>174354334
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>>174354490
Just imagine how the Frenchfags feel about half the French NPs and you'll understand.
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>>174354489
Anon I'm gonna have to ask you to stop.
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>>174354516
Gilgamesh
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>>174354489
1 Roman
2 Bedivere
3 Ozy
4 EMIYA
5 Merlin
6 Jekyll
7 Cu
8 Vlad III
9-0 close this shit game
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>>174354523

Just think of it as Saber's connection with Kerry being so shitty that she somehow got a slightly nerfed version of her Lancer stats instead of her Saber stats.
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>>174354490
>Lancelot
>honor
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>get in here
>power level shitpost about siegfried
FUCK LEAVE HIM ALONE, HE IS JUST A LITTLE MEME DON'T USE SOMEONE AS CUTE AS HIM FOR THAT
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>>174354523
Did any of the stats matter in Zero?
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>>174354167
>twin sister
Did they turn Iphicles into a woman?
>is sisters son
Iolaus?
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>>174353840
>not even the best in her own era
She is shit.
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How soon for Eggos?
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>>174354378
Can't even beat Cu so what's the point?
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>>174354489
>no Gil route
Kusogame
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>>174354490
>steal shit and make it your own
>honor
>fitting

maybe on a grammatical sense but not on anything else

>>174353840
>Musashi had to cheat to beat even a fictional Kojiro
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>>174354647
It started with Flower language
and as all things here in efgeeogee it ended with shitposting.
Sumanai.
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>>174353921
I'll livetweet it since I've got class soon. Will post link after it downloads.
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>>174353285
Let me guess, 10 quartz and nothing else, right?
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>>174354689
She will get there in the third EoR shit.

It will be about reaching the seemingly impossible swordmanship ideal that she strives towards.

She will face against the Yagyu dude and beat him
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>>174354748
~week
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>>174354783
>maybe on a grammatical sense but not on anything else
Nonsense double-think to justify his crimes fits Lancelot perfectly though
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I'm at 300k each points. Can i made it?
>>
Is there a character that could even possiblyEVENTOUCHJeanne D'arc? Let alone defeat her. And I’m not talking about Jeanne D'Arc Alter. I’m not talking about Jeanne D'Arc Alter Santa Lily.

Hell, I’m not even talking about Jeanne D'Arc Alter Santa Lily with La Pucelle and Luminosite Eternelle (with the personal skills Revelation A, Charisma C, and Saint B), equipped with her command spells for every servant in the Great Holy Grail War, backed by her Ruler class which gives her privileges over all other classes and the class skills Magic Resistance EX, God's Resolution A, and True Name Discernment B.

I’m definitely not talking about Jeanne D'Arc Alter Santa Lily with La Grondement du Haine, her dragon flag (which grant her Dragon Witch EX, Self Modification EX, and Ephemeral Dream A personal skills) and the Avenger class, which grants her the class skills Avenger B, Oblivion Correction A, and Self Replenishment (Mana) A+.

I’m talking about Grail-connected with the backup from Gaia Halloween Void Majin Jeanne D'arc Alter Santa Lily (Brave) (True) having achieved the status of Super Saiyan God with the power of Heaven's Feel and the Kaleidoscope, with her arm replaced by EMIYA'S, granting her access to her own version of Unlimited Blade Works, with Projection Magic EX and the replicas of every single weapon in Gilgamesh's Gate of Babylon, wielding both of the Kaleidosticks Ruby and Sapphire allowing her to install every Class Card, after ascending with vampire blood to become Archetype Earth, with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with her Shining Trapezohedron while in Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, swallowing Heracles with the Shadow and gaining God Hand, using Knight of Owner to hijack the entire arsenal of the US armed forces, having mastered Hokuto Shinken, eating Popeye's spinach, and becoming (You).
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>>174354807
Well that's a cute pic, why is Gudao trying to separate those good friends?
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>>174354807
Who'd be the top, who'd be the bottom?
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>>174354342
Not him but from what I can make out with my shit Nip Herc's got lines for Jason, Medusa, Atalanta, Chiron and Medea

>>174354653
And yes apparently genderbending the otouto into a imouto
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>>174351892
>FSG'd he could have knocked out Agravain instantly
He wanted Agravain to atone for his sins.

>He was planning to fight every single of them if he had to, why didn't he just get a head start and disarm/knock out one or two of them, like Mashu, from the get go?
Because he would need to have Arondight sheated and they could catch him off guard if he tried wrestling like an idiot.

>kill Ozzy
>lose the war to the Lion King
Epic
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>>174354946
He doesn't want to get his husbando stolen from him.
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>>174354827
>It will be about reaching the seemingly impossible swordmanship ideal that she strives towards.
Even if she does she won't be shit unless she gets EAM

>She will face against the Yagyu dude and beat him
Still needs to beat Lancelot, the one and only TRUE UNRIVALLED of all times.
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>>174354951
Sumanai is a huge beta and Karna is a doormat, they probably just hold hands
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>>174354934
The original Madara Uchiha pasta was funny because all of this shit was actually true
All these "extended" versions are forced as fuck
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>>174354951
Karna since he had children and all while Sumanai was Kriem's bride (male).
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>>174354647
>Cute
He is pitiful anon
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>>174355107
Sumanai DID wrestle a girl into submission, and got his friend laid so he could pound Kreimhild.
That said I doubt either would have the balls to do initiate anything, Sumanai only acts when asked and the same kinda goes for Karna.
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>>174354974
>He wanted Agravain to atone for his sins.
Which he could have done once he woke up after being captured.
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Sader Lyin when?
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>Lancelot beat Siegfried, Robin and Romulus during interlude 2 only using a pair of chopsticks
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SIEGKEKS BTFO
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>>174354974

>He wanted Agravain to atone for his sins.

No reason he couldn't have done that from a jail cell

>Because he would need to have Arondight sheated and they could catch him off guard if he tried wrestling like an idiot.

He doesn't need Arondight to beat them, he has KoO

>lose the war to the Lion King
>Epic

Ozzy was his enemy before he defected to Gudao's side. Why didn't he just go kill him?
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>>174355091
Who gives a shit about Lancelot.

A japanese history teacher is more impressive about lancelot.

We're talking about the YAMATO people here, who are truly on another level.

You can keep your dicksucking contest about who is the best of Britain the land of losers.

The Land of the Gods of Japan are too above to care about such petty squabbles.
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>>174353679
BB

There's a few TM characters barred from power levels since they're too bullshit to include. Alcidies isn't really in that tier yet.

Buddha, Solomon, Kingprotea, and those guys.
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>>174355249
He wrestled a girl because his friend asked him to do it, with Kriemhild she was probably the one doing the sex. Maybe if you told Siegfried "please fuck Karna" then he would be the top
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>>174354951
Karna is the Hero of Giving. He also had a wife and like 10 kids so he's no stranger to love.

I kinda like the idea of him being secretly dominant if someone asked him to have sex with them. Like he's just fulfilling their wish but he's experienced enough that he's just in complete control the whole time.
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>>174355249
>The only way to get them to bang someone is if a third party asks them to.
Truly a Fujo's wet dream.
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>>174355317
>Ozzy was his enemy before he defected to Gudao's side. Why didn't he just go kill him?
Two reasons
1. Lancelot was already being a subversive little bitch and trying to avoid conflict
2. He'd fucking lose because Ozzy wouldn't be killed in his throne room by anyone less powerful than Lion King.
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>>174354378
Something something fastest Servant. Something something impossibly fast. Something something infinite mass punch.
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>>174354809
Aw shit I just noticed it's PC only. I have a Mac because muh industry standard.
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>>174354946
Because Gudao hates friendship
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>>174352992
Smug sweet tan brown was best girl
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>>174355545
>Gudao hates magic

sasuga
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>>174355338
Lancelot can do what's impossible for miracles or skill and using Arondight makes even that look like shit.

Lancelot skill is above YHVH level

>>174355317
>No reason he couldn't have done that from a jail cell
Singularity would be gone by then.

>He doesn't need Arondight to beat them, he has KoO
He didn't need KoO or FSG to beat them either, he actually beat all of them in a few seconds.

>Why didn't he just go kill him?
Tasked to do other shit and Artoria was scared of fighting Ozzy before Lancelot returned.
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>>174355489
But the only reason Lancelot didn't beat the Lion King himself was the Gift, he's clearly as powerful.
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>>174355249
Wait, what? I thought Siegfried and Brynhildr were the OTP, whose Kreimhild?
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>>174355489

>Lancelot was already being a subversive little bitch and trying to avoid conflict

All he was doing was protecting the refugees, he never had a problem icing Richard.

>He'd fucking lose because Ozzy wouldn't be killed in his throne room by anyone less powerful than Lion King.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no. Lancelot would annhilate Ozzy, using FSG would just make it way easier. Ozzy might be immortal in his temple, but that doesn't stop him from having his body blown to ash by a swordbeam.
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>>174355585
Levia-san was great.
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>>174355671
Brynhild's lover was Sigurd, not Siegfried. Same base, different stories.
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>>174354103
LMAO is this an april fools' joke?
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>>174355249
I dunno, Karna was very flirtatious in his Valentines' thing. He's not shy either, so I'd say if he really decided that he liked Siegfried he could certainly initiate sex.
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>>174355686
>Ozzy might be immortal in his temple, but that doesn't stop him from having his body blown to ash by a swordbeam.
Not even a Grand could kill Ozzy inside his Temple.
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>>174355671
Brynhildr got tricked into marrying and giving her chastity to the wrong man while Siegfried plowed another broad.

It's why she's so fucking crazy.
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>>174354946
He isn't those are tears of joy:
>Sumanai:...Hey...yo...Hey yo...Chaldeluxe
>Karna: Hey yo, Chaldeluxe.
>G: HEY YO. HEY YO CHALDEALUXE, HEY YO CHALDEALUXE
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>>174355742
Nope. This is a 100% attempt at creating an otome game.
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>>174355767
>I dunno, Karna was very flirtatious in his Valentines' thing.
careful anon your inner faggot is showing
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>>174355620

>Singularity would be gone by then.

So what was his plan to make Agravain atone by killing him that he couldn't have achieved by killing him with FSG?

>He didn't need KoO or FSG to beat them either, he actually beat all of them in a few seconds.

Then how come Mashu fought and beat him after that? How come he couldn't just leave and come back with FSG to destroy her?

>Tasked to do other shit and Artoria was scared of fighting Ozzy before Lancelot returned.

He never listens to the King's orders, why does he have to start now?

>>174355805

KH doesn't have a swordbeam capable of completely annihilating Ozzy's body.
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>>174355805
Alimony was a fucking mistake
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>>174355815
*Sigurd
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which sernvant would be more rape?
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>>174355881
What? He was. For someone that people talk about like he's got no balls, he was flirting a lot.
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>>174355805

>Brendan will never unjust himself

Poor lad.
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>>174355815
>giving her chastity to the wrong man
She had a daughter with Sigurd so she must have slept with him first before getting married to Gunnar.
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>>174355916
>So what was his plan to make Agravain atone by killing him that he couldn't have achieved by killing him with FSG?
Making his say he was sorry for all the shit he had done.

>Then how come Mashu fought and beat him after that?
He didn't want to fight at that point anymore. Read Camelot.

>He never listens to the King's orders
He does and the Lion King says that if it's Lancelot there can't possibly be any mistake.
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>>174355916
He would never be able to use the NP inside the Temple.

Arthur & Arash needed Paracelsus' Philospher's Stone to get past the Anti-NP effect.
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>>174356025
stfu anon that doesn't remotely make any sense
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i want to hold pinkies with my waifu!
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>>174356025
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>>174354103
Anon I...
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>>174355950
Siegfried did actually go through the same process.
In Das Nibelung Bryn was some sort of amazon queen that needed a strong man, Gunther wanted some of that snu snu so he asked Siegfried to help him get laid, so Siegfried put on his handy dandy Invisibility Cloak™ and sneakily helped out during all the trials.
Later the chick refused to accept Gunthers proposial so Siegfried went in at night with his Handy Dandy Invisibility Cloak™ and wrestled her into submission and stole her gridle so Gunther can get a piece of that ass.
Then Siegfried went on to Plough Kreimhild.
Then at some later date Kreimhild and Brynhildr where arguing over who had the better husbando, so then Kreimhild let slip that she had the Girdle(?) that Sumanai stole from her when he manhandled her, Gunther found out and back then taking a womans girdle is basically telling people you smashed. so they all got pissy and they got Siegfried killed on a hunting trip(?) by shotting an arrow into his weakspot.
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>>174356138
>He didn't want to fight at that point anymore.
EAM means that he loses no skill or power under any kind of mental hindrance, including not being 100% willing to fight.
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>>174356043
Alimony ends in 2019 and he got a role in some shit called Condor. Also lots of people bitching over Brendan not being in the new Mummy, he will rise again.
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>>174354103
bruh you didn't even post Roman
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>>174355857
Uhhh. That sucks. I assume they couldn't find a decent illustrator to work with.
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>>174356234
Holy shit that's a bad Saber.
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5* Odin when?
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>>174356320
Doesn't matter because he wasn't fighting though, he was just trying to calm down Mashu. Mashu fears the UNRIVALLED and when they found again inside the Castle WALLS Lancelot gave her a funny face and she immediately retracted the shit she said about him.
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>>174356392
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>174356357
>Alimony ends in 2019

That's really nice to hear. Seriously tho what is the fucking point of alimony? Did they really had to feed kids? I think I read it was just a marriage alimony and I felt insulted from just knowing you can get alimony and fuck your ex beyond divorce
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>>174356306
>assassin siegfried balmung you out of nowhere never
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>>174356427
No it's because the girl making the game insists that she does all the art by herself. She claims that people ~commission~ porn from her all the time, but I wouldn't even give her $1 for this bullshit.
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>>174356306
Thanks for the Ghetto rundown.
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>>174356493
No, I want the Odin the one voiced by Wesker.
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>>174356493
After Guan (You) so fuck off
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>10 summon tickets
oh my god I'm tempted to roll
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In hindsight as we look back to FGO that came out 2 years ago, would you say the best servants that didn't get phased out were: (also apply grail ascension)

Waver / Herk / Saber Alter / Emiya?
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>>174356598
Is that an honest to god fucking shoujo chin?
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>>174356392
>Roman be like

>>174356598
And now I be like
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>>174356683
COMPLETE
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>>174356564
"I'm accustomed to a certain lifestyle, so I demand money to keep myself within that for awhile" or something. Think they need to ween off having money.
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>>174356598
Jesusito
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>>174356598
>Does all the art by herself
>Art is very obviously traced

These are the times I wish I could sue shit like this if only because of the bullshit lie
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>>174356753
GLOBAL
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>>174356025
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>>174356710
Waver got buffed, Saber Alter isn't really all that good since her kit is shit, Emiya got buffed twice.
Only Heracles is eternal
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>>174356493
What SE game is that from?
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>>174356881
SATURATION
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>>174356043
>implying
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>>174356683
>>174356493
I want an Odin that changes classes based on what ascension you use, a Lancer warrior or Caster wandering wizard.
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>>174356306
>Siegfried will never have his Handy Dandy Invisibility Cloak™ in FGO
I still don't know why it's not an NP or something.
I'd be like not giving leonidas his hot spring gate NP.
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>>174356938
I always thought Saber Alter did the most possible AoE Damage out of all the saber classes. I don't like her either, but I'm kind of making a list or a guide for all my friends who are interested in playing the EN FGO and giving them a reason why these servants are better than the other 5*.
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>>174356732
>>174356738
>>174356856
>>174356858
BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!
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>>174356043
He found a way.
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>>174354878
I know who you are, fuck off
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>>174356598
Jesus, the difference between this shit and Empire of Dirt is fucking enormous. Who was it that said it was the "era of husbandos"?
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>>174357119
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>>174356940
Akashic Re:cords. Apparently it's got a Norse event going on right now.

For some reason Square Enix seems to have thought it was a good idea to hire Nakahara as a key artist for the game. No idea what's up with that.
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Reminder of the many characters that showed FEAR upon the greatness of TRUE UNRIVALLED in Camelot

>The soldier hesitates before telling Gawain that the enemy cavalry is led by a knight in purple armour: it is Lancelot.
>Gawain: ---! ...I see... it is regrettable. Truly---
>Gawain begins issuing new orders to his men. The left wing is to retreat till the Fourth Corps, and then regroup with the right wing.
>Gawain: --I'll be using the holy sword. Except for the enemy soldiers on this side, all of the rebels will be incinerated.
KEK KEKWAIN INSTANTLY PULLING OUT SHILATINE WHEN HE KNOWS THE GREATEST KNIGHT EVER IS ON THE ENEMY SIDE. BTFO.

As you are about to hurry to the palace, Lancelot comes riding up on horseback, greeting you and Bedivere with a smile.

>Mashu: Sir Lancelot! Thanks for shamelessly taking so much time in coming here!
>Lancelot makes a pained face, causing Mashu to correct her statement.
>Mashu: Sorry, I misspoke! I mean, thanks for kindly taking your time in coming here!
WEW MASHU IS SO SCARED OF UNRIVALLED ACTUALLY FIGHTING HER FOR REAL THAT IF HE MAKES A FUNNY FACE SHE INSTANTLY REGRETS WHAT SHE SAID.
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which are the camelot maps with the really shitty sandstorms? I can't remember offhand
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>>174357119
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>>174357185
Who?
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>>174357119
Is this someone just starting out drawing? Jesus, they're not ready to lead the art for a game, fan project or not.
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>>174357017
Because you aren't supposed to get every single np you own per class. Your nps are supposed to be divided between potential classes rather than jamming them all in at once.

It's like asking why fate retconed saber having rhon, because she doesn't have it as saber.

Assassin seigfried soon
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>>174357236
>Norse event
What's in the gacha?
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>>174357197
>Who was it that said it was the "era of husbandos"?
probably some redditshitter

>>174357250
Lancelot best knight
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>>174357364
Heracles Shielder
Robert E Lee
Jack Churchill fused with jack the ripper
Ronald McDonald
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>>174357197
Come on, it's not really fair to compare some shitty deviantart-tier to the land of doujinshi.
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>>174357470
>Heracles Shielder
what now
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>>174357325
I'm going to guess yes. Her post history is pretty much all her whining about how female players are so mistreated because there isn't enough husbando shilling.
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>>174357470
Damn you anon
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If American version does well, more American Servants? Maybe shinjuku chink is due to china version?
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>>174357646
Calamity Jane.

They've been holding on her because of this
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>>174355398
>kin-pika

Are you making more autistic nicknames for characters Chechequeanon?
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>>174357741
It's an old nasu nickname, although rin called him that once as well
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>>174357612
If this is what husbando shilling is I don't want any of it
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>>174357589
The shield is the earth itself that he caries on his back.
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>>174357339
On the topic of Saber missing shit, why doesn't she have Prydwen?
We've seen Sabers and Riders get summoned with shields before.
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>>174357364
Odin, Thor, Baldur, Fenrir, Midgard Serpent, and Surtur. The event seems to be about kicking the shit out of Utgard-Loki.
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>>174357827
Mordred stole it

Summer Mo uses it as a surfboard
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>>174357827
Because of Mo-san, Herc's sword is also in Saber's armory so Saber Herc probably never
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>>174356493
Reminds me of Arsene from Persona.
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>>174357827
Because she didn't have it in FSN, because it would be weird if she did have it in FSN, and subsequent appearances are based on FSN.
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>Within the city, a soldier reports to Agravain that the main gates have fallen and it is only a matter of time before the rebels invade the castle town. He begs for Agravain to request the Light of Judgement from the Lion King. Agravain rejects the soldier, saying that there is no need for that. The Knights of the Round Table yet remain and will be enough to deal with the enemy forces. Tristan is stationed at the town and Mordred's troops are still outside.
>Agravain: The enemy's momentum is just a momentary thing. The sandstorm will soon disappear. Until then, focus on defense.
>The soldier replies panickedly that Mordred's troops have routed and are no more.
>Agravain: ...That is a surprise. Since arriving at this Holy Land, that can be said to be the greatest surprise I have had. ...What happened?
>Stammering, the soldier reveals that they had been crushed by Lancelot's squad.
>Holy City Soldier: It is Sir Lancelot's betrayal! The Knight of the Lake is no longer a knight of the Holy City!

And how Agravain reacts to this?

>Agravain: The main gate has been broken and the rabble army have advanced onto the streets. So please, my King. There is no need to tarry further. The Holy Selection has ended. What remains is only your decision. ...Bring the Tower of the Furthest Reaches here. Raise the Millenial Kingdom that we once failed to form in Britain. Please create an utopian country that no one can invade, that no one can threaten.
I can only watch over these fruits of our effort.

WEW AGRAVAIN IS SO SCARED OF THE ONE AND ONLY THAT HE INSTANTLY GOES FROM "Nope we don't need Rhon" to "HURRY UP PLS USE RHON BEFORE UNRIVALLED BTFO US".
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Which Servants would have the worst gambling addiction?
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>>174358068
Richard also had avalon in life it turns out, so saber with avalon never. He found it and kept it safe until einzberns found where he sealed it

Diarmond broke his Spears, so lancer diarmond never. Karna lost his armor so he doesn't get that as a servant.
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>>174358352
any of the chinks
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>>174356493
Looks like a Persona
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>he's getting desperate
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>>174356938
Saber Alter would mop the floor with any of those servants anyday of the week fuck you.
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>>174357119
Even this fag draws better then that.
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>extella tried to fix the reputations of Iskandar and Lu bu, saying they really are pretty strong. Even giving Lu bu a complete personality during his story.
>no one believed it, they're still both hated by majority of fanbase.
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>>174358260
Speaking of Rhon he should have a fairy made spear equivalent to Rhon stashed somewhere.
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So who is Nobu Odakek?
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>>174358772
Me
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>>174357827
Mo-san's fault.
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>>174358463
I don't look much at lack's Twitter feed, but I'd guess he's a big Atlus fan.
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This is what happens when the greatest knight of all times fights for real, AND HE IS STILL NOT GOING FOR THE KILL
>Sanzang: It's useless---!
>Sanzang gives up about as fast as she gets hyped up.
>Tota: It's because you spouted strange words! No, in the first place that man's a bit too sturdy...!
>There is a sizzling sound as Bedivere burns up even more of his soul.
>Bedivere: Ugh... just, this...! Compared to Sir Arash's regrets...!
>Mashu: Master, withdraw! Although it is truly, deeply regrettable from the bottom of my heart, it'll be hard to continue the fight any further...!

>>174358751
Nah that's Magna, Romulus has it.
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>>174358695
Lu Bu is hated? I thought most people just didn't care.
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>>174359129
what's the source on this nito
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Why does everybody in Chaldea sleep naked?
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>>174359338
they're all sluts
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>>174359338
I don't even the appeal of sleeping naked, I mean don't you end up dirtying more your sheets with your pubes rubbing against them all night?
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>>174358260
He then beats him.
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>>174359467
>having pubes
Disgusting
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>>174359467
Shave. Wax. Laser. Just get rid of them.
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>>174339062
Friendly reminder that Tamamo only breeds black.
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>>174358956
What is happening here?
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Straight men shave their pubic hair?
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Arondight

I S

S
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>>174359804
a sword.
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>>174359804
BENT!
E
N
T
!
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>>174359793
Yes, for sex.
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>>174359804
comparable to other weapons
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>>174359739
They're playing the OUSAMA GEIMU, I presume.
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>>174359804
CUTE
U
T
E
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>>174359793
Yes, having body hair offends me
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>>174359804
Limitless
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>>174359674
I wouldn't have her any other way
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any one have scans from the chaldea sketch memo books especially the one from the fate/extra artist
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>>174359804
Unable to float or shapeshift.
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>>174360180
>the fate/extra artist
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>>174358581
Heracles was on equal footing with Saber Alter until the mud started constricting him
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>>174360180
>e
arco wada i could not remember the name
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>>174359804
Arondight
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>>174358365
>found it and kept it safe =//= owned it
Karna did lose his armor, but Nasu didn't give a shit since it's his husbando so he conviently forgot what he said about ''lost'' NP's.
No one cares about Deermud
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I think we should put this as he OP image when the NA version of FGO goes live to ward off the newfags
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>>174360648
Literally the only person that's ever applied to is Saber with Avalon because she'd be too powerful if she always had it and the plot needs her not to have it.
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>>174360687
That's a soft mashu post more or fuck off
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>>174360771
Yeah because Karna without his armor would only be left with his top regeneration, anti-country nuclear blasts and a spear that kills gods, that's definitely too weak.
Compared to saber who's down to her sword which only turns special when Earth is in danger
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>>174360771
Saber being a girl was a mistake
Arthur wouldn't have to job that much to make MC look better
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>>174344824
Riyo does zombie games now?
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>>174360771
>she'd be too powerful
Kinda doubtful, we've seen people with.equally bullshit items lose due to strategy or plothax. If the plot wants them to lose, they will absolutely lose.

If she had avalon, and she was against a main character and his servant, I can guarantee it wouldn't mean shit. Main character at the time wins. We see this concept tested to its limits in ccc vs bb&kiara, who were bullshit, but the plot deemed them to lose through plot hax.
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>>174360969
Karna's regeneration is only because he had a good Master, any Servant would have that.

Besides, my point is that Saber's never had it in any appearance since Fate/Stay Night. They had a reason for that in F/SN, because once she got it she had an "I win" button that gave her more mana and made her completely invulnerable. It worked for F/SN because then she was reunited with it and the story was over, but then she appears in other shit like GO and they have to take it from her too just so she wouldn't be too OP.
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>>174361272
She's fucking shit without it
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>>174361079
>>174344824
Yes.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/189829/zombie-tower-3d
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>>174361519
>>174361519
>>174361519
>>174361519
gorilla edition
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>>174361272
I do kinda wonder though, why didn't Kerry just give saber Avalon in Zero? I get that he wanted to protect Iri, but it seems like an Invincible Arturia with night unlimited manna would be better protection than giving her the ability to heal herself a bit better.
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>>174361272
It's not an I Win button, it never was, thats just a retroactive thing saying it has no limits like lancelot just because the plot didnt allow for it to be tested. Even when she has it she knows she has to use it very smart or else she'll still lose. She waits until the very end to goad gilgamesh into laughing his strongest attack in order to create an opening with it to move close.

If it was almighty she would have used it at the start of the fight.
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>>174353353
N
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>His VA is not listed as Grand Saber, anon.
You know technically Saber's VA voices Proto Saber's unit, right?
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