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/owg/ OVERWATCH GENERAL THREAD

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>Official Uprising website
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/events/uprising/

>When does the event end?
May 1st.

>Loot item checklist:
https://js41637.github.io/Overwatch-Item-Tracker/#/events/UPRISING_2017

>Latest Comic:
http://www.madefire.com/motion-books/OVERWATCH-UPRISING/

>Event video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpGrY9i8TSA

>Story video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5wDV8x6w7s

>Developer update video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGpQtWoasMs

>Live Patch Notes
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20753818008

>Overwatch Dev Tracker
http://www.overstalk.io/

>Tips/tricks/basics/etc.
http://pastebin.com/Qf2AKa8R

>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://overbuff.com/

>Competitive Info
http://gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://over.gg/

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Mei!
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Sombra, that's right!
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Alright i have spend 45 hours practicing against bots with tracer and pharah

should i put in another 50-60 hours on ana aim training? i heard she is useless in lower ranks without 80% accuracy

havent played comp yet, so no idea where i will be placed
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No seriously is this some elaborate prank I'm not in on?

Fortify does fucking NOTHING.

What the hell is the damage reduction, 5%?

>250HP
>Go up against Reinhardt
>Pop Fortify
>Shoot him in the head consistently as he swings
>Still die to his swings before I can kill him

What utter fucking garbage.
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>>174238606
r u srs
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>go to leaderboard
>click friends only
>post img
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Here comes T.Racer!
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The enemy has a teleporteur.
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>>174238664
yeah why not? i played almost 150 hours of aim practice and headshot only DM in CSGO, got ranked Eagle.

People just about everywhere say that certain heroes, such as ana and entirely useless on low rankings or players who do not average at least 75% accuracy on both scoped and unscoped. And since overwatchs scoped aiming is fucked compared to other games, i think you need a shitload of practice no?
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>>174238820
overwatch is a casual game aim doesnt matter much as long as you can hit the body. you dont need super accurate headshot aim like csgo
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>>174238820
Ana just has to hit anywhere on the body to do her poison dps
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>>174238929
>>174238941

but you need to have aim with ana to hit your team mates. they are jumping around like absolute crazy, makes it super difficult to heal them.
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>>174238820
because aim will only get you to bottom master/high diamond
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>>174238473
>just want to relax after a long day
>pick Mercy on qp
You knew exactly what would happen
You enjoy it
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>>174238671
wow it looks like i'm better than all my friends
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Guys I just found something amazing, pic related.

It's called Practice vs. AI, it's located in Training, its a place where you can practice your hero with live targets.

now do me a favor and get the fuck out of quick play, now's not the time to play the 30 minutes you played on mcfuckface just because you just got a new skin.
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>>174239017
Most Anas just sit behind their team mates so they can quick inject and nade.
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>>174238637
i think there are certain things fortify doesn't work as well against if at all

Roadhog's ridiculous burst damage is NOTHING to a fortified orisa and I have no idea why
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>>174239076
a god
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>>174239079
>mad about losing in QP

ROFL
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>>174238678
>she will never be your gf
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>>174239115
Damage is split evenly among the tiny pellets of his shotgun. So those tiny pellets are all being affected by the damage reduction.

The issue is, there are only three characters in the game with shotguns for weapons which are hard countered by that ability. Fortify falls flat on its ass against any precision hero who can hit her in the head which is like 75% of the roster.
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>>174239259
What else am I supposed to play? Competitive? with how SR works right now?
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>>174239076
are those the 3 heroes you only play?
do you play solo?

cant imagine ranking up as support, must be suffering
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>>174239260
Speak for yourself you nerd.
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>>174238470
that really triggers me
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>>174238476
best girl
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>>174239259
>>174239298
Besides, I want lootboxes, I don't want to stare at a Defeat screen all day and I can't carry as frog.
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Why do people not understand that the DPS is a team and should focus the same target to secure kills?

Why do people not understand that total damage output is a function of the entire team, and if your team damage is low it could mean that your healers and tanks are fucking bad and failing to keep the DPS alive?
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>>174239319
Where did you get yours?
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http://www.redbull.com/en/esports/stories/1331853772226/orisa-fortify-overview-overwatch-red-bull-esports

>Lead designer Jeff Kaplan has stated that Orisa is a popular pick amongst non-tank players, some of whom are behaving too aggressively and ultimately lowering Orisaā€™s win rate. These players will either shape up, or move on, and the stats should representing her state more clearly: Orisa, and Fortify, are a force to be reckoned with.

No Jeff, it's because she's fucking garbage and can't tank to save her life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxXEPk3dzFg
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>>174239434
dont die as dps then
idiot
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orisa a cute

a cute!
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>>174239272
I mean, it doesn't even work that well on Reaper.

Reaper just keeps fucking shooting and still outdoes her.
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>>174239460
What good is a tank that can't be aggressive? How are you supposed to apply pressure when you fall like a leaf in the wind.

>Reinhardt can apply pressure with his shield and massive close range damage
>D.Va can apply pressure with her damage block and boosting in
>Roadhog can apply pressure by eliminating key targets with hook and blast
>Zarya can apply pressure by just being fucking Zarya
>Orisa kinda just sits back and fires her pea shooter in the general direction of the enemy, because she's unable to lead a push
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>pay my cc's minimum
>try to buy lootboxes
>failed
>call cc company
>they say i have to pay the full debt
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>>174239507
>Local platinum rank Ana shoots 5 unscoped shots at critical HP teammate, misses all 5, finally throws healing grenade and calls it a day

"Just stay alive bro it's just a prank bro"
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>>174239514
She's adorable, but she needs D.Va levels of buffs to become viable.

What if Fortify was a toggle ability like D.Va's barrier or Bastion's heal?
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>>174239460
>use fortify, walk out of graviton surge and walk to our hiding mercy, giving her the 10% she needs to Rez our team
>use fortify right when their rein earthshatters and kill him before he kills my team
>use fortify on hog right when he shoots his hook, he needs to reload, melt him down
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>>174239298
Even with sr being fucked qp is just a shit show. No one gives a fuck. If you are good enough anyway you will climb the ranks
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>>174239790
>Use Fortify
>Promptly get focused because you're a giant glowing centaurbot with a head hitbox the size of VY Canis Majoris
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>>174239746
I see her filling more of an off-tank role.

Give her more damage, imo.
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>>174239715
>platinum
>ana
pick one
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Very rare stretched Widowmaker sighted having stretched legs AND upper body.
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>>174239874
I walked out of the grav and didn't die because their genji was focusing killing squishes for potg
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>>174239892

She has huge damage, her projectiles are just slow.
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>>174239892
what the fuck efi you're like 8 years old why did you build those

what is wrong with nigeria
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>>174239892
ANON THOSE ARE ROBO TATAS

YOU CAN'T POST SYNTHETIC BOOBS

>>174239979
Yeah, trying to shoot down a fast moving character as Orisa is hell.
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>>174239936
Telepouteur
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>>174239460
orisa is good already in maps (or parts of a map) where there are important narrow hallways/corridoors in which her shield is good

for example sanctum part of nepal, the street phase of king's row, etc.
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>>174239892
I am in mid diamond and when she is in my games it doesn't seem to bad. People seem to be more accepting of her then sombra or hanzo
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>>174239892
>tfw based mods never delete robolewds
Feels good
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>>174239923
>>174239715
this

Ana is a masters only hero, nobody can play her below that
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>>174239715
Shit man this still happens sometimes if someones pivoting in front of me point blank
Probably one of the most embarrassing comp games I had was on numbani offense where lucio hopped in front of me twice right when genji hit dragonblade and took the nano
We won but I could feel them watching me closely after lucio ate it the second time
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how the fuck am i going to grind the weekly lootboxes tonight if there is no 1v1 arcade
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Are we real shitposting hours right now?
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>>174240231
pve?
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>>174239892

YUGE
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>>174240238
We yuropeen hours now
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>Someone spams "I need healing!" while I'm already healing them
>Stop healing them immediately

Who else here /pettyasfuck/?
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>>174240259
fuck that
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>Rein forgets to stun/charge/shield off the Bastion
>everyone dies
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>>174240231

the normal skill level pve thing is literally FREE boxes you don't even have to pay attention to

>>174240306

I mute everyone who says anything antagonizing/retarded instantly
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Symmetra is for sex.
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mercy barefoot skin when?
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>>174240365
Water is wet.
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>>174240386
when the sleepover update happens.
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>>174238476
I swear, if I ever see Mei in real life I would never be able to resist milking those tits.
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>tfw gold borders are becoming more and more common.
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>>174240574
MODS
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>>174240592
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>>174240574
Jesus christ.
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>>174239017

The hurtboxes for teammates are much larger and more forgiving to anas' healing darts. It's easy as fuck to hit them
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>>174240592
>having anything higher then a bronze portrait
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>>174239079

>Taking qp seriously

Why
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>tfw finally got combat medic ziegler
i need a break from this game for a while, think i've given myself carpal tunnel
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>>174239079
>now do me a favor and get the fuck out of quick play
No, there is no 6v6 unlimited so I'm forced to do quick play.
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>>174239874

As Orisa you have no fall off and all of your abilities work at every range

Why are you close to the enemy?
Fortify does a lot more work further away when heroes like roadhog and mccree and 76 can't threaten you.

Orisa is like an off tank that focuses on protecting the back line. Like the inverse of rein who protects the front
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>>174239079
Lmao no one is going to take your retarded, ass sperging advice you child.

Quick Play is for practice, it's the mode versus actual human opponents. You dick around in QP before going to comp.

And if I want to play a character I only have 30 minutes in in Comp, I will. :) I paid for the game and get to do what I want.
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>>174239715
I hate when I'm trying to heal someone as Ana, and zenny or Lucy are jumping in my face eating my darts because the whole triangle counts as the reticle
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>>174239514
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I love, respect, and admire Angela!
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>>174240029

You aren't supposed to solo a fast moving small target

You tell them NOT SO FAST and your team anhilates them when they get swooced back into sight
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>>174239079
>Q-QP IS COMP TRAINING!!!!

you people are hilarious
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>>174240851
>Why are you close to the enemy?

Orisa at range can't do anything. The travel time on her projectiles make it impossible to hit fast moving targets unless you're close as possible. Her barrier at that range only becomes a self-protection tool as her team dies from having no tank to sponge damage.

This is the entire issue with Orisa, a tank that sits behind the team does not fundamentally work. It's a stupid idea.
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>>174240205

>Getting so many kills with Nu-cio that Ana Nanobooost you on purpose

>You clean house

CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP
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>>174240925
i have more hours on mercy than you even though i don't even like her anymore.

how does that make you feel
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>>174240930
>You tell them NOT SO FAST

As they dash/blink out of the way of the glaring obvious projectile/your team doesn't capitalise on the set-up and you just wasted your time.

That
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>>174240851

yee i go passive as fuck because i have no mobility and i'm not actually very "tanky" when i can't safely rotate E and shift. I like to buddy up with wherever tjorb builds and bunker that shit.

>>174239079

QP is absolutely the place to take my <1hr played heroes, or anyone i just feel like playing for taht matter, and there is nothing you can do about it.
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hero neber die :DD (for brise >:DDD)
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>>174241093
>anymore.
you never liked her.
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>>174241153
HAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>174241024
It works when you need someone to stay on the point because your team was so trash that they couldn't cap the first point.
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>>174239892
All she really needs is a buff on the projectile speed. Her damage is bretty good, the issue is it's comically easy to avoid her bullets. I can't tell you how many times I've had a Mercy or Ana cornered only to have them hop away because the bullets take 30 seconds to reach them from point blank.

really, they could lower her damage and just make it a hitscan, it would probably fix most of her problems.
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>>174241024

>Orisa at range can't do anything

Well she can because you just have to launch fat projectiles at the enemy and their Shields, and lead shots, and huely your HALT at them, it's not rocket science

>Team has nobody to sponge damage

You can have a second tank that's fairly common in this game in case you hadn't noticed
And she has a 900 hp shield she can deploy at range for her team on a short cooldown

>A tank that sits behind the team doesn't work

It does when it gives the entire team +50% damage
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Why's everyone so scared of getting on the god damn point?
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>>174241153
dil balhalli :DD
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>>174241093
Indifferent because I've only played like 50 hours total, and thus I would expect everyone in a general for a game I don't play much to have played every hero more than me across the board.

She's so wonderful
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>>174240930
doesn't work. She's like 80% of the way to viable. I don't know why Bilzzard won't make another tank as good as Reinhart, or just nerf reinhart's shield.
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If me and my friend are playing together duo-queing what is the best combo of heroes to pick in order to have the most carry potential and do the best as just a duo of two regardless of who our team mates are?
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>>174240857
When people cry "I like winning" when in QP I say, "then practice your aim here and play comp." Then I'll carry as widow or genji.
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>>174241120

Anon whiffING Halt and having bad teammates is not a valid reason to call orisa bad.

I mean she's not great, but she's not useless. I win games in diamond with her fairly often.
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>>174241393
Pharah and Mercy.
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>>174241302
>and lead shots
Lead shots against a Tracer, Genji, Pharah, Soldier, Junkrat, generally anybody with movement options. It is literally impossible at range because they move around like crack cocaine addicts.

>And she has a 900 hp shield she can deploy at range for her team on a short cooldown
Now you have no defence as Hanzo/Widow/Genji/McCree/any precision hero eats your HP through Fortify with ez headshots.
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>>174241393
Ana and Genji or Pharmercy
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>>174241153
my serbents neber die :DDD
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>>174238637

probly because orisa is weak against high alpha damage and close range heores. fortify is basically just an 'oh shit my shield is down i need to stay alive for a few more seconds till i can shoot another one' button
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>Everyone claims Ana needs extremely good aim to play at high levels

>watch TimTheTatman
>misses every second shot
>never lands a proper sleep
>still wins all the time

lol?
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>>174240851
She can't protect the backline, flankers are too fast and destroy her 1v1. She cannot counter any flankers, Genji, Tracer, and Reaper rape her ass with no lube.

Her "best" role is a good front line fighter. She can beat most tanks on the front line, providing equal support. Unfortuantely that doesn't mean much when there are other tanks that are just as good on the front line and have other abilities that make them more powerful.
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>>174241360

Literally every hero is viable except

>Mei
Because bugged

>Junk rat
Ult too easily countered

>Dva
Because dps too low since spread change.

And even then you can main dva and junk rat to GM if you're good at them.
"Unviable" doesn't apply

There might be better picks, but even the slightly worse heroes have enough niche gimmick potential to throw the enemy off balance
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>>174241423
>Anon whiffING Halt and having bad teammates is not a valid reason to call orisa bad.

Halt is piss easy to whiff against anybody who can press a button to move away fast. If a character is that reliant on their team, they're a bad pick. Like legit that makes them trash. Your abilities should compliment others, not be reliant on them to the point where the ability does nothing for you without them.

Halt needs to deal damage just like it does in Uprising.
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>>174241360
Thus is dumb, she's OK if rein is in the team. Rein is the "main tank" in the game or is a is another off tank. If they made another tank as tanky as Rein, then they would both be picked in the same team with a bastion and mercy + zenny and either a flank dps or McCree to keep the mercy and bastion safe from flanks. It'll be a worse game if there was another tank as good as Rein.
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>roadhog uses his self heal when my beam is on him and his ult is ready
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>>174241725

gotta take a sippy quickly
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>>174241686
>she's OK if rein is in the team

Dude, she was created to REPLACE Reinhardt in certain comps. She is literally a failed design concept that NEEDS other tanks to do her job. You can't build around her which is what was intended.
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>>174238476
>tfw she will never straddle your hips and smother you in her big full soft milky breasts
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>>174241551
He, like many streamers, get carried by their band of faggots.
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>love Sombra and want to play her
>everyone yells at me for playing Sombra even when I play decent and call out when my ult is ready
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>>174241393
Ana + Genji, Harambe, Reinhardt
Zarya + Genji, Harambe, Reinhardt
Mercy + Phara, 76, Bastion
Zenny + Genji, Phara, 76
Torbmetra on def have fun
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>>174241796
You must get into some very shit teams. I've been Orisa in matches where she was our only tank and we won handily.
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>>174241686
>This character is good if the overpowered character of the same role is in the game too.

The problem is Rein, has been for a while. Orisa would be decent if Reinhart wasn't broken. The way she is now though, what is the point? Reinhart does everything better, with less effort.
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>>174241919
welcome to the life of Sombra/Symmetra

everyone will sit on you until she's meta
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>>174241919

Sombra players are generally good because she isnt edgelord bait like Genji or Hanzo and takes some intelligence to not constantly die or be useless, dunno why people complain about her.
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>>174241957
Hint hint, the enemy team was garbo and Orisa did nothing.

As soon as the enemy team picks any sort of flanker, Orisa is a dead pick. No mobility to get away, no reactive defenses besides Fortify which does nothing against anything but the weakest heroes as she's riddled with crit headshots.
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>>174242010
Nerfing Reinhardt and Zarya isn't going to make Orisa a viable pick. We'd just see a no tank meta because they're garbage picks.
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how hot is it inside d.vas mech?
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>>174242049
>reddit told me sombra is a bad pick so I will sit in spawn insulting your family until you switch oh and also I will report you and your entire friend list
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>>174242240
jesus fucking christ

literally
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>>174241796
Trying to replace Rein is the real fuck up
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>>174242261
It's probably well air-conditioned, not to mention it already has plenty of open space underneath the front.
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>>174242108
So you're implying none of the other tanks need an anti-flanker? They all die just as fast and dead if they get flanked. Rein can't attack with his barrier up and can only cover one direction, Zarya's bubbles have long cooldown, D. Va can't damage things worth shit, and Winston takes too long for his tickle cannon to kill anyone. Orisa can fire back while a barrier's up and manipulate her opponent's position.
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Does anyone want to play with me?
I'm in Bronze I can post my battletag if you're interested.
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>>174242240
>that horrible chick monster dva

hmmmmmmm....
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>>174241919

sombra is like widow. people are so used to seeing shitty ones that they immediately assume you are a waste of a slot, and will continue to blame your team's losses on you regardless of how good you are.
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>>174241312
That's what I've been thinking a lot, because you can't really grind boxes in comp.

Maybe there's a general mis-conception about WHO should be on the point or the payload? There are games where no one picks a tank, so I guess they all just think that they can "stay safe" somewhere around the corners of the map, or something.
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So many people in this game are so bad at understanding it

Like the community and it's precious "meta"

Literally any hero can win, the game comes down a lot more to player skill and how your team works together (both in terms of teamplay and composition) than individual hero choices

Bleeding edge advantages over other heroes only come into play with pro teams. And even then there's like only really the defense heroes sans widow and Hanzo that don't get played
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>>174242376
Rein can literally just back away spinning his shield against people unless they get right up in his face to the point where they can kiss him, OR charge away. Zarya gains damage and a brief respite with her bubbles, Dva just flies away, and Wintson jumps away.

3/4 of the listed characters have an escape button, and the other fucks up any single misplay with her defences.

Orisa just can't do anything against flankers, she melts.
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>>174242415
Tracers suffer the same curse.

Somehow the teams that accept me do well and the teams that don't have such bad coordination that they lose and end up blaming it on me.

Weird pattern, I know!
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Every sombra ever
>Rushes forward and dies in 3 seconds after uncloaking
>Possibly remembers to hack (one) health pack
>Sombra: My ultimate is charged
>"Ok cool so if we just team u-"
>Fagando I'm useless
>"What the fuck sombra"
>"Jeez I was holding onto that for like 10 seconds I told you guys it was charged why didn't you listen"
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>>174241919
Because she is so difficult and as others said, "needs intelligence" to be used properly, it will the team you just joined time to justify your pick. If you pick 76 nobody bats an eye because he's known to be useful in most situations. If you can justify switching to sombra after you have solidified report with your team mates then it's a different story. It's like insta locking torb or junkrat OK atk; you're going to get some backlash
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>>174242108
She'd be great if her primary was a hitscan. I don't know why they made it a projectile when she is clearly a rip off of heavy weapons guy.

The way Orisa should work:
- from range, you plink enemy shields/ and disrupt their team with primary weapon, use HALT to set up combos and "peel" enemies.
-any homo that gets too close without dealing with her gets ripped to shreds by point blank minigun
- weaknesses are lack of mobility and huge hitbox, no self heal, and a reliance on her team to capitalize on HALT.

How she works now (live):
-Spam m1 and m2 at enemy team, occasionally get a elimination because your bullet hit someone that died 20 seconds later. Do damage to sheilds and nothing else.
-Try to bait rein charges, hooks, and boops with your fortify. Hoping your team can finish off whoever uses it.
-put a barrier down in front of you so you don't get instantly fucked by snipers or dps. God forbid you need to leave your shield or use it wrong, because now you're useless for 15 seconds.
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>>174242558
>Literally any hero can win
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>>174242590
>I've only ever played with bad Sombras, so that means my experience applies to all Sombras.

Only (You) I'm giving.

Any competent Sombra who joined via solo que will at least wait for the rest of the team to engage the enemy before using her ult
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ORISA NOW HAS TITANFALL 2 LEGION SHIELD ON HER GUN ARM
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>>174242650

You can literally pick soldier, miss 90% of your shots, and get a single kill with your ult, just press E on cool down.

Your team will never ever call you out on it despite the fact you're a useless piece of shit

You could be hanzo on the same time doing 10x the soldiers dps, providing vision with sonic arrow and wipe the enemy team with your ult when Zarya ults

And as soon as the round ends

>Can we get a better hero than hanzo please
>Fucking hanzo pickers
>Could we get another hitscan?

The community is retarded. Pay 0 heed to them
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>>174242206
Rein would still be viable even if his shield only blocked 1000 damage. There would be a crying period but people would realize he's still broken as fuck.
Zarya barely needs a nerf, maybe add a second to the bubbles but not really, she's only really used for her ult anyway.
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>>174242558
>literally any hero can win

why don't you play a team of six reapers and try and beat a well balanced comp team
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>>174242678
>-any homo that gets too close without dealing with her gets ripped to shreds by point blank minigun

Which does happen, like with ANY AND ALL CHARACTERS aside from Symmetra and Winston, you need to AIM. Something that many players are exceedingly bad at, which is why Pharah's being nerfed.
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>skin costs 3000 coins
>duplicate gives 200
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>>174242865

>More than 1x of a hero on a team in comp

>"Team comp is important"
>"lul play 6 reaper"

Nigga where is your reading comprehension at
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>queue for legendary uprising
>check my teammates' achievements
>haven't beat uprising on any difficulty level
>instantly leave game
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>>174242970
I didn't know you could actually check people's achievements.
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>>174242876
>Pharah's being nerfed.
wait
what
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>>174242865
>role composition is exactly the same as hero composition
Have a free (you)
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>>174243087
If she gets hit while flying her jets are disabled and she falls to the ground.

Damage reduced to 90.
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alright im gonna do the rest of play placements once the event and holidays are over.

literally not a single other person in voice chat
only tank is an orisa
no healer but me
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hello I just calibrated at 2650 how bad is this

the only heroes I know how to play are pharah dva and lucio
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>>174242965
What kind of nerd reads the whole comment instead of reading up to a part you disagree with and metaphorically cutting them off
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>>174242876
No it doesn't. go play Orisa and try to kill anyone with your primary fire. Even low health heros can take 2-3 HEADSHOTS and simply hop away because of how slow the projecile speed is.

It's shitty, I've got like 15 hours on her and her problem is she's just not an effective fighter at ANY range. She's not strong enough against what she is supposed to counter and super weak against anything with mobility.
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>>174243216
>only D.Va and Lucio
>not entering comp. with knowledge of being able to competently use at least 5-7 heroes

leave now
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>6 turret kills
>5 total eliminations
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>out-snipe hanzo at a range as orisa of all things
>get him down to 10 HP because he cant hit me even when I dont have a barrier up
>he hides in a hole
>walk up to him and throw down barrier
>scattershot goes through barrier (I assume a bug) and I eat 400 damage instantly
>die

Is every member of the Shimada clan an insufferable fag?
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>>174243216
Sorry to tell you but this is absolute gutter trash ranking.
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>>174243323
why would I need to know that many

if dva or pharah get countered I just play lucio who is always good
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>>174243242

Touche
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>>174243151
Am I being bamboozled here?
Source?
That's retarded.
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>>174243476
I have no reaction for this mindset. Thank you for continuing to lower the quality of competitive.
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>>174243395
Does killing a dva mech count as a kill?
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>>174242947
>skin you might want
>vs picking the skin you definitely want
values are a little stupid but it's a good system
real problem is they butchered the drop tables for these crates
hopefully it's enough for the casual types to notice and complain
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>>174243476
And what if someone on your team already picked lucio?
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>>174243448

He probably just walked through the barrier. Or the arrows bounced around

Remember arrows lodged in barriers are still active and hurt

Shoot a zarya in the head with her barrier up and she can walk into it when the barrier drops
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>>174243523
You're being bamboozled. She's not getting nerfed.
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>Dicks out for Winston
-Tracer, 20X7
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>visits subreddit
>every single link is a potg

why do so many people record in this game? like did i miss something? does the latest mac or windows 10 include recording software by default that is easy to use or something?
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>>174243581
Seems fine, I opened 5 boxes and got the mercy and reinhardt skin
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>>174242792
>blizz forcing anyone to aim at anything that isn't center mass
>blizz replacing moba slow immunity for something practical
>blizz reworking anyone but pooinloo
keep dreaming friend
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>>174243591
then I say "hey I'm bad can I play lucio"

and if they say no well then he's also a bad player and we deserve to lose
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Are Winston players the new Roadhog players?

Do you really get that much satisfaction out of playing any hero who is so mindlessly easy to play?
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>>174243649
Dicks out for Overwatch would be much more accurate.
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>>174243701
Win 10 does, actually. It's called Game DVR.
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>>174243808
well that alone wouldn't explain the amount of potgs posted to the subreddit. it's like literally every shitty plat pleb records suddenly, i don't get it
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>"ay whats your gameplay niche my man"
>"I do moderate damage on left click at various range"
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>>174243579
don't know but that would explain it
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Man this just encapsulates Orisa's shittiness perfectly

>Take damage from left
>Immediately Fortify
>It was McCree and Hanzo
>They melt me in two seconds
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>>174243523
Both things were mentioned by blue posts on the forums. Right now they're internal, same as Reaper's hinted changes.
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>>174243905
you mean medium-long range hitscan headshots without the vulnerability of scoping in, and a close range stun for mobile heroes
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>All that butthurt about Genji being in HoTS
Why are moba babies so whiny?
>Waaah OW is an sjw shit game why are characters from a blizzard game in a blizzard game about blizzard heroes?
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>>174243935
My favorite is.
>bait reinhart into a charge
>use fortify to block it, drop shield at feet so his Ana cant heal him back up
>blast him point blank in the head for 3 seconds.
>die to his unga bunga left click spam before I get him below half health.

it's a fucking joke. Rein is king of the Ungas and they won't nerf him. Orisa was supposed to be an alternative to him but she's worse in pretty much every conceivable way.
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>>174243905

>i also have an ability all it does it move me slightly in any direction one meter, it's like a shittier version of tracer blinks. it also just reloads my garbage gun
>i also have a glitchy as fuck ultimate and instead of fixing the many glitches with it, people want it buffed because people playing this game are shitbrained
>i have another glitchy ability that just stuns people for less than half a second

watch as instead of fixing recoil bug, removing screen shake, fixing deadeye delay, increasing damage fall off slightly, they will just completely change the character and make it garbage

blizzard sucks
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>>174244151
to be fair OW is also an sjw shit game
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>>174238820

Is this that autism thing I keep hearing about everywhere?
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haven't played since S3
any changes to Tracer?
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>>174243905
He's solid at that, don't get me wrong, but the fact that his entire role spoils down to being a no-scoping mid range sniper is incredibly lame.

I've been suggesting a rework for quite a while. Things to make him less effective at range and stronger at close range and changing up the characteristics of his skills so that he isn't just a scrubby "stun right click" hero again.

Stuff like:
>Severe Damage fall off over distance against players, but full damage at range against Torb turrets and Shields no matter the distance
>Combat Roll gives invulnerability frames
>Flashbang becomes a small duration Sombra-style silence, that even goes through shields!
>Buffed up close range damage

That would fix him up nicely
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>>174244304
If there's something certain about Overwatch is that Tracer never changes.
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>>174244285
Then why are you here?
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>>174244304
tracer will literally never change in this games entire life
after 10 years, every single hero now and released will have had changes except tracer
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>>174244362
I don't think Blizzard knows what to do for or against Tracer because the Overwatch community is terrible at playing that type of character. Same with Sombra. So they just assume that nothing has to be touched because nobody is screaming for nerfs or quality of life buffs in vast numbers
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>>174244406
because it's much more tolerable than other sjw shit games, and to shit on sjw
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>>174244362
>>174244414
>tfw Tracer's literally perfect
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>>174244179
You can move backwards and avoid getting hit by Rein and his only way to attack from long range is not very effective as it's a projectile. He's not gonna get nerfed.
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Guys I love this game, but I simply can't stand being stuck between 1850 and 2050. It's just not fun anymore
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>>174244537
start maining tanks and supports, lol
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>>174244537
then you don't love this game, you're just attaching yourself to it because Blizzard hires psychologists.
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>>174244492
there is going to be some changes soon, which will shift the game from instalocking soldier, where tracer is the new overpowered pick

but this will only work in grandmaster so reddit won't complain and tracer will remain overpowered and broken forever
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>>174244285
Explain how and why it's an SJW game.

>racist Russian
>racist dwarf
>nearly all brown characters are evil
>several white people including two Aryans
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>>174244179
>dosen't know that right click applies a slow

also

>216/sec with headshot damage and no falloff
>vs 75 a swing a second
>plus 150 bounce damage rein takes for charging fortify

numbers are in your favor, you're just bad
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>>174244496
So your advice is to not do your job and run away? Also, Orisa's only way to attack from range is a projectile, which doesn't ignore shields and does wankpiss damage.
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>Orisa's shield is now mounted onto her main gun
>Halt! glows red when it's in range of an enemy
>Fortify is a toggle ability that now disables firing while active and reduces movement speed, damage reduction increased to 100%

There, she's now a fucking tank.
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>>174244537
>create new account some time ago
>after 2 matches get matched vs 2k
>they play like they have the retard in the brain

you deserve your rank. you're fucking garbage my dude
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Holy fuck everyone in Competitive is retarded.

>everyone scatters and never regroups
>trickle in on the objective ONLY when time is running out rather than grouping up
>everyone's sensitivity is at fucking -8
>entire enemy team is always coordinated and fucks me over
>because of how retarded my team is and theirs isn't I can't even carry
fuck competitive, I haven't even made it out of placements and this is shit, And supports and tanks get the least SR? fuck that.
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>>174243897
people like having keepsakes of times they had fun

you may be autistis if you can't comprehend this, anon :/
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>>174244414
I would say that this is fitting because she's trapped in time and thus cannot change, but that was disconfirmed.
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>>174244496
>You can move backwards and avoid getting hit by Rein

He has a 5m range on that hammer and moves the same speed you do, if you're in range you're going to be hit because he's going to be chasing you.
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>>174244537
I wish I could play on your account. To see if there's a way out. (I'm mid diamond.) And even if there isn't, at least there's no harm done anymore.
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>>174244658
I was talking about everyone who's not Orisa or another Rein.
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>>174244678
Stop whining you dumb shit and place bronze like you deserve.

It's always the team's fault, never your own. Like we've never read that before.
Get a fucking grip and stop blaming others for your own shortcomings
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>tfw win streak
>tfw dont feel like playing anymore after that
it wasnt always like this, I used to enjoy playing for hours no matter if I won or lost but a win doesnt even feel like a win anymore and loss feels fucking horrible
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What is this shit? Got a Potg as Zenyatta but this is how the menu looks and all of them except one are just a black screen. Wanted to record that shit.
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>people tell me to get off of Symmetra
>"we need counters to ults faggot change heroes"
>"ok"
>don't actually change at all
>the match starts
>at one point shield a Pharah right before she Ults at my team and force her to bomb herself
>another point Reinhart creeps up to our defense and tries to hammer
>throw a shield at him as soon as I hear the audio track for his Ult play
>we win defense
>guy who was bitching is completely silent

I mean, why complain about Symmetra on Defense anyway?
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>>174244654
Go ahead and try to land every projecticle to get that mythical 216 dps. It's not going to happen. You will hit a third of your shots at best.

I don't need to win this argument anyway, the statistics will prove me right in the end. Orisa will see a less than 3% pick rate at all skill levels with an atrocious w/l ratio. Without significant Reinhart nerfs or Orisa buffs, she'll stay there.
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I have a question about movement

Let's say I'm holding W to walk forward with any hero, that's moving at 100% of the hero's maximum movement speed. Do you move at the same when moving in other directions? If I'm holding A or D to side strafe, am I still moving at 100% of the hero's maximum movement speed? What about when backpedaling(S) or diagonal walking (AW,WD,SD,AS)?
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>Somebody plays Bastion/Orisa in Uprising All Heroes using their new skins.
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>>174244661
So, you can just avoid shooting Orisa and it becomes a 6v5. Sure.
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>>174245050
In this game you can't gain speed by strafing.
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>>174244987
Zenyatta POTG cannot happen as it breaks laws of nature. Harambe is here to prevent it from happening, but he's dead and so it fails to show you anything.
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>>174245063
>Ignore her
>She melts anybody who gets close as that's where her weapon is at its peak in performance
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>>174243935
>3v3
>Roadhog hamming it up on my teammates
>decide to go Orisa
>walk up to him and fortify
>he hooks but it doesn't stun me, nor do I take extra damage
>his tiny monkey brain isn't sure what to do as I spam M1 at his face
>this happens for three rounds, saving us from a 3-0 loss

I only wanted her to be anti-Streetpig and she does that, I can't complain.
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>>174244661
I feel all she really needs is increase in projectile speed and maybe slight damage increase. Her Alt fire should have a longer pull too.
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>>174244658
>and does wankpiss damage

It's sad how much the game has conditioned people to expect the tanks to out-damage the DPS that they rage over a tank that's finally properly designed to not also be DPS.
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>>174245281
Her weapon should be hitscan/low damage or high damage/projectile,

At range with that spread it feels like you're doing fuck all.
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>>174245030
probably cause Pharah, shitters overating her is whats going to get her nerfed
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NEW GENJI SKIN WHEN?

I want BUNNY GENJI NOW!

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/genji/#?skin=steel-dragon-genji

Why does Blizzards shit moba gets the better skins?
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>>174245219
I really think you tards need to actually play Orisa, her primary weapon doesn't hit people at close range, if she does mange to land a few shots they do no damage. I'd rather have winston, at least then I know the damage is going to go hit.
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>>174245398
Nigger he just got his (argurably) best skin
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>>174245303
People get mad about it because Orisa has no way of escaping or deterring flankers, no way of fighting other tanks effectively in 1v1 scenarios. Her weapon has massive downsides compared to everybody else. It has high spread, low speed and makes her even slower, it's absurd.
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>>174245375
>>174245281
she can spam for 12 seconds and her shots hurt the same at any range
it's suppression, not a kill laser
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>>174245219
>disables firing while active
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>>174245507
It needs to suppress better
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>>174245507
>it's suppression

Bastion is better at suppressing.
Reinhardt is better at locking down areas.
Reinhardt is a better tank.
Zarya is a better tank.
D.Va is a better tank.
Roadhog is a fucking better tank.
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>>174245375
hitscan with a damage drop off would fix her most glaring issue. increasing the fire rate/projectile speed would also help.

Seriously go watch an orisa shooting at someone from the side, it's so fucking slow, you would have more luck landing uncharged Hanzo arrows.
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>>174245476

BUT I WANT THE BUNNNNY!
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>>174245398
>x strike
I want that in OW
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>>174245507
The entire idea of suppression is to keep someone behind cover because they would die if they step out of cover.

You don't need to fear her primary weapon because it's fucking impossible to hit anything with it, even if you do hit a few shots you only do about 40-80 damage, less than a single reinhart left click and E.
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>>174245643
The ears are goofy, but that helmet design in general is better. I don't understand why his normal helmet looks like that of a medieval knight.
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>>174245643
>change 3 pieces of armor on outfit
>add giant paddle weapons
>LEGENDARY SKIN
hots is run by the most b team of b teams
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>>174245630
>>174245507

Real talk, if you want a hero that does Orisa's job, just pick Bastion.

He's tankier and deals more damage.
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>>174245831
He's also more mobile and doesn't suffer from fuck long reload times. Also a self heal.
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>play comp
>first match: get stomped
>second match: get stomped
>third mach: stop the payload after a few meters on defense, can't even reach that on offense
>fourth match: 5 man premade against us (6 random)
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Pharah needs a nerf for real
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>disable bloom spread because it's fucking annoying
>fortify and translocator add the ring around the crosshair so it's basically a bloom
Reeeeeeee
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reminder that flex players exist just to get carried by people who actually know their role
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>>174245989
justify this retarded opinion
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>>174245486
Wasnt it really good when it was put in ptr. So basically babies won again and her gun got nerfed.
I swear it was almost hitscan fast with the spray
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So, Mei's ice spray and ultimate have stopped slowing people down because the programmers couldn't get the Omnics in Uprising (All) to slow down properly. Nobody is going to comment on it, and as soon as the event is over, it'll work again.
>>
what the fuck is this matchmaking, 50% of my qp games the past weekend were free losses where I joined a losing game near the end.
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>>174246153
I'm not talking full on nerf just a slight adjustment to the knockback on her rockets so hitscan can actually deal with her if she is shooting at them
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>>174246116
>not using bloom with ring
it's a dot initially
then it spreads to a completely accurate representation of your shot diversion
probably the best crosshair I've ever played with
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>>174246174
Yes, Orisa was way stronger initially in the PTR. The gutting to her main gun was idiotic.
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>>174246178
AAA gaming
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>>174246229
nigger she dies if a hitscan class so much as looks at her, are you sub-2000?
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>>174246313
Im sick of this shit whoever they keep taking advice from they should stop doing it.
First Sombra now Orisa.
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>>174246178
If Mei was deleted from the game

Literally nobody who plays it would complain

Prove me wrong
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>>174246178
So, she's basically a neutered Pyro with no damage?
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how can people be so fucking clueless and trash in this general that they argue either tracer or genji to be weak
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>>174246434

I agree.

Honestly all the defence heroes are making the game worse. Just delete all of them.
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>>174246560

Genji is great 1v1 but weak in a team setting.

Unfortunately this is a team game so Genji is rarely useful.
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>>174246434
I would complain
I like her
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>>174246178
Its funny reading tumblr cartoons to see what womens difficult lives are like. Not having iced coffee is hard.
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>defence heroes and a few other heroes with low mobility are better at attack than defence
>because each hero they delete pushes the objective
>offence heroes are better at defence because they can get to the objective faster and are better in objective fights.
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> play uprising expert
> be in a three man group
> start game and 1 pub who insta locks reinhardt
> does nothing but charge and swing hammer
> charged so hard into the wall he forgot he has a shield
> this continues throughout the fight until third capture
> he charges himself outside on the right side we scramble to rescue him as he is knee deep in shit
> we get to the payload
> he sits there with shield doing gods work pulling off great short charges stopping detonators
> we crawl through escorting the payload to its destination
> we manage to do it, hard part is over now just on home run
> reinhardt dementia starts to play up goes back into bad habits
> mindlessly charges at everything again
> gets killed
> mercy dies
> torbjon dies
> then finally me

My blood is boiling from that experience, he literally threw away the game after all of that

Honestly what is going through people's heads when they do this shit
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>>174246654
..Aren't comics supposed to make jokes of small things? Jon not knowing the location of his pipe is small hindrance, and that is the most popular comic on this site of 4chan, if the not the interstellar digital highway.
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>>174243713
fuck off jeff
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>>174246943
Theres actually a proud history of comics and cartoons discussing important issues and satire.
Apparently not in the world of tumblrina comics.
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>>174246654

is every western internet comic a 'timblr cartoon' now? how about you stop being such a bigot and learn to enjoy things
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>>174246886
omnics have red eyes
reins can't help it
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>>174246426
>>174246313
>>174246174
The only change was lowering her magazine from 200 to 150. That was it.
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https://twitter.com/didvkfmld/status/853982011211436032
has anyone compiled these voicelines in english somewhere
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>>174247058
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>>174247059
Did I trigger you?
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>>174246943
>idnt comic suppose to make joke??

Comics began as political commentary and satire, which while funny isn't strictly for jokes.
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I've started picking torb when I have a sym main on my team. People can't seem to be able to deal with multiple autoaim threats at the same time.
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>>174247115
what does he say?
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Why don't stuff like blocked damage or enemies hacked give ultimate charge?
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>>174247059
Protip: 4chan thinks EVERYTHING that isn't part of its culture is an SJW thing.
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>>174247234
Dunno, it's why I want the english
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>>174246852
its fucking sad, I feel like Sym and Torb are a major problem thou
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>>174246636
false stop being retarded
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>>174247157

You want to fight, kid?

1vs1 me I am XxxDarkShadoGenji23Xxxx
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>>174247058
>I CAN'T BELIEVE THESE TEENAGE GIRLS MAKING COMICS ABOUT VIDEO GAMES AREN'T ENGAGING THE FICTIONAL CHARACTERS IN **SERIOUS** ISSUES
chill the fuck out you sperg
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>>174247332
how do you find that in japanese without it being linked somewhere..
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>>174247413
I follow a lot of Korean artists on twitter
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>>174247275
I didn't say a thing about sjws you stupid cunt.
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>>174247059
>>174247143
>>174247379
>>174247392
>being this butthurt
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>>174246560
>Tracer
>Weak
She requires a little amount of skill to play, but she's not weak in the slightest. Yeah she only has 150 hp, but I get gold with her easily in uprising.
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tfw you're just not sure what's a ruse and what isn't anymore because on the one hand there are people so autistic they take part in IRCs dedicated to organized trolling but on the other hand you've met people dumb enough to genuinely believe everything is an SJW conspiracy
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>>174247592
>n-no YOU'RE the butthurt ones
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>>174247592
Says the one dude collecting all the posts to call butthurt
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>want to play as the robit
>the robit is shit
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>>174247642
Why are you obsessed with critics if sjws?
I said the comic was a silly thing a spoilt woman would care about.
You keep bringing up sjws.
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>>174247642
Anon, if anything has a non-white character or a woman, it's made for tumblr.
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>>174247818
So everything is tumblr.
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>>174247818
So the world was made for Tumblr? What matrix are you living in?
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>>174247760
>someone makes a post
>gets a hundred (you)s
>they are butthurt though
Your feminine brain is showing.
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So I just tried competitive for the first time and played my placement matches. Got 2700+ SR, but got placed in silver. I thought it should've placed me in gold or platinum?

I don't know how it works, so can somebody kindly explain to me?

Also, how to climb faster as a support main, or more specifically, Mercy main?
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does angela's feet get sweaty after all the running around?
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>>174247940
All the posts are just calling you a retard.
You're the one trying to make some kind of grand stand out of it but the fact of the matter is, you're just retarded.
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>>174247959
They probably hurl like hell. I have a heel fetish, but goddamn, are they impractical for combat.
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>>174247940
So, if every response comes from a butthurt person, your ass must be sore.
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>>174248035
>implying im the originsl poster
Fuck off back to your safe place you hysterical cunt.
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>>174247642
>>174247805
>>174247818
It's true though, what kind of cunt drinks iced coffee and posts about it? Only the annoying tumblr cunt kind of person
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>>174248090
probably why she has the wings
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>>174248035
How is the anon retarded? He correctly said it is a frivolous thing.
He correctly commented on how comics used to be about important topics.
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Wait a second do you have to do legendary and expert on the normal mode for the achievement?
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>>174247943
Don't even try climbing as a support main rn.
Shit's fucked, SR gain is bugged.
Dunno about you getting placed at silver with 2700 SR though. Unless you mean 1700.
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Uprising has so much potential for trolling. You can play seriously all the way to the last point, and then just start dying. Or pick a healer and stop healing when the door opens.
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>>174247642
was my only post on the matter for the record and I was speaking generally
>>
yuri
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>>174248175
>projecting this hard
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>>174241153

esberiens draguilidy :D:D
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>>174248035
I'm sorry we don't all go to hipster coffee shops anon and use their wifi to shit post on 4chan about the patriarchy.
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>>174247762
Play Zenyatta

Nobody dislikes Zenyatta
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How do I get /vg/ to gift me Overwatch?
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>>174248231
Yeah, I realized after this post about the impracticality of high heels that this game has an undead Wraith and a talking gorilla.
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>>174248560
Wait til Christmas
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>Ameritards wake up
>They start arguing over comics
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>>174248464
I like those comics where pharah is a child/teen and have fun with the overwatch member like McCree for example. I like McCree - Pharah. I see it as McCree being a jokester and fucking with every overwatch member and bringing pharah with him on his jokes, and Mercy as the one who groom her and don't like McCree because of his past and because she thinks he's a bad influence on Pharah.
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>>174248414
Oh, so all these retarded tracers dying like flies are actually trolls and not shitters. Got it.
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>>174248414
Some players pissed me off early on. So I waited till the part where waves of Nulls start spawning. Then I left knowing i was the tank and they'd get wiped. Felt good.
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>>174248391
No, I got 2700SR. But stuck with silver medal. I don't mind losing because I just want to play and learn, it's just that I want my shiny medal damn it! So, is this a well known bug?

And is it really bad? Climbing feels like hell. Each points gained feels like a hard battle, and it's free falling whenever I lose.

Just gotta git gud I guess.
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>>174240925
Angela loves you back.
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>>174241286

I would if there were good ones. I can't be arsed to make one myself and all the ones I see are le500% EVERYTHING EBIN :D:D games.
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>>174248764
That's the platinum icon, dude.
I'd suggest you play tanks, otherwise it's gonna be a long road up, you'd need two wins to cover a loss. It gets really bad at Masters.
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>Finnish posters are posting
>qualitiy of posts decreases
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>>174248414
Kill yourself.
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>>174248884

rely makkin me tonk :DDDDD
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>custom pve games.
>>
>junkrat point blank airbursts you with the land mine
>does ten billion damage to you
>knocks him back out of danger

fair and balanced.
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>>174248880
>I'd suggest you play tanks, otherwise it's gonna be a long road up, you'd need two wins to cover a loss. It gets really bad at Masters.

Are you fucking stupid? Is this what plat shitters really think?
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You have been visited by the Jolly Reinhardt of Teamwork and Cooperation.
Good teammates and excellent Reinhardts who cover you and your compatriots will be in your team, but only if you reply to this post with "This dog still knows a few tricks."
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See, shit like this is why Reinhardt and Zarya will never be replaced as tanks.

They have an "I win" button that locks targets down that they can take advantage of.

If I was Orisa, I'd have popped my ultimate and hope my allies could fucking aim against targets who can still move around.
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>playing uprising
>when someone sucks an unusual amount of dicks, check their profile
>it's always the same story, something like: season 2: rank X, season 3: rank X minus 500, season 4: rank X minus 800
>not only is there no progress in their stats but there's actual regression, e.g. avg. time on fire shorter by a few seconds each season, etc.
Why do these animals even continue playing this game.
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How many years before the current time line does Uprising take place if the current year is 2076?
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>>174239705
The fact that you rely on money you dont have to buy something as trivial as lootboxes should tell you something.
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>can revive players in PvE
>reviving players is locked to a single hero in PvP

fair and balanced.
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>>174245201
why is reddit here
did your subreddit become so fucking shit you're all coming here now?

well it's not better here
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>>174248764
>girl gamers
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>>174242049

Yeah, she's actually useful. A good Sombra is a boon on your team and a real pain in the fucking ass on the enemy team.

I think that most people just don't understand how to play her yet.
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if you're below 4000 SR please don't post for 10 minutes I want to see how many shitters are in this general
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>>174247268
christ anon, do you like World of Tanks meta that much?
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>>174241551
This anon >>174241898 is right but good positioning and decision making are just as important for playing Ana as raw aim, you should keep that in mind.
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>>174249297
herro im above 4000
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>>174249297
tfw unranked, so not below 4000SR
Suck my dick
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>>174249297
but I don't play competitive.
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>>174249297
speak for yourself my dude
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>>174248880
So, just play someone like Rein? Really shit at tanks because I rarely play them. Gotta get some practice in quick play, I guess.

>>174249238
Not really, but this pic probably won't convince you otherwise.
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>>174249297
>>
if you're below 4000 SR please POST within the next 10 minutes, I want to see how many shitters there actually are here
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Imagine if someone made a comic about a serious Overwatch mission or in universe subject like
Omnics or cybernetics.
Instead of ice cream and gay relationships?
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>>174249117
Chu said Overwatch spilt up 5 years ago, so maybe a more than that?
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>>174247268
Because charging your ult as Reinhardt by doing damage is one of the mechanics that make the hero interesting. You have to trade off blocking damage for your team in order to charge your ult with Fire Strikes, and it rewards Reinhardts who are able to decide when and when not to Strike or LMB at enemies.

It's a skill ceiling thing.
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>>174249478
Imagine if you spent your time drawing said comics instead of shitposting on a chinese cartoons imageboard
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>>174249428
>>174249297
(You)
now get out
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>>174249478
That's probably be a halfway decent comic then.
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>>174249428
>Implying GM isn't full of shitters
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>>174249556
Why are you so easy? Its because you know Im right.
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>tfw HotS gets yet ANOTHER amazing Zarya skin

>we are still stuck with Weighlifter

how is this fair?
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>>174249665
>amazing
Only the gun looks good
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Alright guys, Chosokabe or Shimazu for my first Very Hard playthrough?
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>>174249665
Wtf how does that make sense are they going to do map themed skins???
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>>174249614
It's because you can't draw.
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>>174249665
>[NEXUS CHALLENGE 2.0 INTENSIFIES]
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>>174249665
>>174249736
>>174249760
>>174249787
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>>174249743
oh shit wrong thread
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>>174249762
Im offen I can draw with crayons real gud.
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>>174249829
Do Tracer and Lucio get new skins as well?
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>>174238637

Why is Ana the only post launch hero that's not trash?
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>>174249880
Because they have learnt.
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>>174249297
>TFW im 7 points away of platinum (better than past seasons, my first one)
>TFW blizzard keeps fucking up the competitive system for healers
>TFW main marcy is painfull when there are no tanks AND awefull DPS
>TFW the only friend who can play with me usually is a silver main genji
At least lucio it's even funnier than before
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>>174249829
Hair ruins it
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>>174239017

A good Mercy is better that a shit or even average Ana.
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>>174249829
I dont get it. Its basically a genji themed zarya skin.
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>>174249940

Learnt what?
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>>174249996
>A good X is better than a bad Y

WOW NO FUCKING SHIT
>>
FRESH REMINDER

REPORT MERCY PLAYERS

IGNORE MERCY PLAYERS

DO NOT PLAY WITH MERCY PLAYERS

Mercy is exclusively played by homosexuals, femboys and females". Exclusively.

She is the lowest impact hero in the game, her ult does nothing but feed the enemy more kills and her heal also only feeds enemy ults.

She has no means of defense and only a pharah will make it possible for her to survive longer than the average 25 seconds.
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What would be the community's reaction if mercy was released post launch and ana was there at launch?
>resurrection
WTF BLIZZ THIS IS BROKEN
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>>174250205

Genji and hanamura in heroes of the storm bois
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>>174250194

Except that meta fags won't admit that and will shit on Mercy players just for picking mercy.
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>>174242240

that bunny mech is pleading for death
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>>174250278

>Launch mercy

What you posted

>Current mercy

This hero does nothing compared to ana. What a boring design
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>>174248631
So this?
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>>174249297
i want to get better but I only play quick play because comp in every game is thoroughly unenjoyable
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>>174238413
why pharah so sad
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>>174250205
>She has no means of defense and only a pharah will make it possible for her to survive longer than the average 25 seconds.
Yeah for a shit mercy
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https://twitter.com/didvkfmld/status/853982011211436032

any koreans here who can translate this
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>>174249117
According to a timeline I found, the Null Sector Uprising takes place in 2070 so 6 years. Tracer would have been about 21, Rein about 55, Torb about 50, and Mercy about 32
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>>174250475
she not viable above plat :(
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>>174250205
post sponsored by a main bronce genji
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I may not be good at Overwatch, I may not be very smart, or rich, or handsome, but I feel like if I live my life as a good person and do altruistic things like Mercy, that she would approve of me.

I'm not so presumptuous as to think she would be my friend or like me, but as long as she says "ok, this guy checks out on the not-asshole meter", I'll be happy.

I get to help people who are unfortunate at my job, and I donate a portion of every paycheck to Doctors Without Borders, and Im very kind to everyone I meet, and I do it because Angela would approve.

I don't know how you guys feel about waifufags, but me liking her so much has had a very positive effect on my and by proxy those around me, so that's good at least.

It doesn't really matter that she's fictional, if she has a real effect on the world, right?
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>>174250475
because she's forced into a relationship with the evil necromancer because tumblr likes it so
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>>174249996
>>174250194

A good mercy is in NO WAY better than an average ana

how can you compare biotic grenade, sleep dart, ranged dps and stronger ranged healing to

>lul close range 60 health per second healing

Mercy does nothing but Rez and Rez is all she's ever picked for

Because it's essentially press Q: Double your teams health and perhaps waste an ult or two of the enemy. That's busted on its own to justify a bad hero
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the new lucio in this update is fucking nutty, he can contest forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWxqeQ5kuu8
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>Roadhog: "She'll be right"
What did he mean by this?
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Can we all just agree that dual queues of the worst?

You can always tell because the entire match is Mercy just ignoring everyone else and spending the whole time damage boosting Soldier.
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>>174246178
Keep it
She freezes people too fast.
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>>174250783
She'll be right
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>>174250660
haha gay
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>>174250672
Very high mobility, able to heal/ damage boost through walls, invincible while ulting
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>>174250783
tt's just the straya cunt way of saying things will work out or be ok
source: straya cunt
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>>174250806
>duo queue take both dps
>they're shit
>lose

One is always a fallen diamond trying to McCree poorly too.
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>>174250783
>It's an idiom we use in Australia and NZ. It's just like saying "it'll be okay"
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>>174250783
His kidnapped victim back at the hideout will be ok.
Old Aussie saying.
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>>174250930
>Blizzard doesn't actually know anything about australian slang
>there truly is a Mrs Hog somewhere in the world
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>>174250660
Internet was a mistake
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>>174251116
Dont think ive ever heard kiwis say it.
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>>174250606

>Pharah not viable above plat.

Just watched a pro team dominate with her last night to win the championship.
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>>174250475
Literally on the verge of getting nerfed because shitters can't aim with Le tutorial man or 2 hit cowboy etc meanwhile I get another group of shitters who ranked up playing fucking Symmetra so I guess that shows you how bad people are at this game
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I only have fun in mc ree HS only arcade games
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>>174251114

THIS...oh so much this.
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>>174243701
>>174243897
me graphics card (i think) has some recording thing that's pretty nice actually, but since I started using it I actually haven't played overwatch a whole ton and most of my potgs are from before I started using that

i mostly just use it for rogue lites
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>>174244654
>>plus 150 bounce damage rein takes for charging fortify

i thought this was changed
>>
for uprising, is it the red crit spot or left arm you have to shoot to bring down the shield guys' shields?
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>>174250903
>>174251172
>people do things because Jesus said so
>people do things because sidhartha said so
>etc etc every religion ever
>anon does things because mercy likes them
>no different, his imaginary moral guide happens to be from a game rather than a book
>gets shit for it
>>
>>174251398
>>174251440
>Nerfing one of the most countered heroes in the game
Well it's not nerfing pyro retarded but it's getting close to it.

Nerfing torbjorn would be a better analogue oh wait they already did that on console because people are comically retarded on console
>>
>yfw dps insists on dpsing but can't hitscan the pharah at all

Fucking gold is such suffering, I'm so sorry for bashing you guys stuck in this trash can SR last season.
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>>174251635
>>etc etc every religion ever
yea and people call them loons as well
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>>174251440

>shitters who ranked up playing fucking Symmetra

>tfw that's me.

I have 63% win rate with her and close to 90% in KOTH and people are still complaining when I pick her.
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>Defend round
>rest of team goes 5 DPS
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So, is it too optimistic to expect to end up in a non shit bracket while doing placements?

At 5 games out of 10, 3 loses, 1 draw, 1 win
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>>174250712
Why does everyone suck in this match?

Oh, it's on console...
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How do I make sure my smurf places at the lowest possible SR? Does QP impact my initial rank even if I throw all 10 placements?
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Does anyone else feel that comp is falling apart and devolving into quick play-esque "fuck you I do what I want" shittery? Especially in plat and diamond, people aren't working together as much as they used to.
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>>174251767
>one of the most countered heroes in the game
Nice meme
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>>174251526
I am sure there are other point-and-click games.
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>>174251902

Placements mean jack shit now if you played the season before.
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>>174252089
>dies to any form of hitscan
>dies to fast projectiles
>dies
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>>174251825
This, man's nature is to be selfish and look after himself. Altruism is merely one hoping that any good will is to be returned to them in the future.
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>>174252089
>Facts are memes
>Meroposting
figures
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>>174252178
Eh I havent, so what then?

Last time I played ranked was in S1, ended up at 49, and alot has changed so I wouldnt know what happens next
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>>174251767
And apparently on PC as well since I've seen people get rolled by fucking Sym/Torb defense and they end up in GM
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>>174252089
Take your fishbitch with you back to /a/ you filthy meroposter
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>>174252215
>>dies to fast projectiles

If you die to any projectile hero, you are massively outplayed and don't even realise it.
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>>174244905
Seriously this
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Why do people claim that pharah is OP when both mcree and soldier can kill her in less than a second?

Every team has a soldier and he is a direct hardcounter, making pharah outright unviable in the current team comp meta. If you peak him just once you lose 150 HP instantly
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Anyone 3000+ SR on PS4 here?
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>Got OW around the beginning of this season
>Only have about 30 hours but have managed to get gold as a Rein main

Feelsgoodman
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>>174252000
there's footage of actual bronze players, try to emulate what they do and you'll do fine

it might be hard to force yourself to play like a mong for so many games so it's best to actually play "normally" except with a handicap

for example: play pharah and only fire at enemies point-blank so that your shots always also damage yourself, and don't use abilities, or play mercy and only don't heal/fire, just use the damage boost
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>>174252229
No it isn't by definition.

I have no desire for anything positive or negative to happen to me when I do something altruistic. I even do things anonymously for the express purpose of not getting recognition.

There IS an argument for good feelerinos being a reward, and that those are why people do good things, but that's hard to measure and not even a bad thing anyway.

So no, I do not want something good to happen to me for my good deeds. I do my good deeds only for the sake of being a good person.

Now, I do have a hope. I hope that more people decide to be good people, and that the world improves, but I don't necessarily want people to be good to me specifically.

Altruism does exist in humans. Your interpretation is probably colored by instances of false altruism. False altruism is done for the purpose of recognition.
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>>174252215
>dies to any form of hitscan
Literally every hero dies to hitscan
>dies to fast projectiles
Only when ulting
Pharahs static enough to get hit by projectile at any other time are irrelevant to this discussion and may as well play another hero
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>>174252068

I'm in plat-diamond and low diamonds are the worst. They're all boosted with no clue or a hint of game sense.

I soloed my way up from busted silver placements and I can honestly tell you that there are better players at high silver/low gold than in low diamond.
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>>174252503
3927 here
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>>174252482
The people claiming she is OP are from bronze/silver/gold where people have accuracies of <20%
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>>174252648

Who do you mostly play as?
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>>174252695
Junkrat
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>>174252627
>Pharahs static enough to get hit by projectile at any other time
with how pitifully slow she moves in the air and how big hanzo's logs are it's more than easy to get hit by them
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>>174252640
It true, it feels like a lot of dropped diamonds are genji mains that can pubstomp with dragonblades on QP and nothing else, but got placed in diamond because their QP stats look good.
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>>174252761
>hanzo's logs
>>>/x/
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>>174252695
Ana and Mercy, mostly because I can't trust other people to do the healing.
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So, I finally caught up. Read the two comics, watched the trailer, played the lore minigame.

OW is trying its damnest to fix its lore. Any other big holes left? The writing actually seems a teeny bit better.
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>>174252584
wowow relax dude. ur probably a rly a nice guy and all and a positive force in the universe utilitarian-wise bla bla. but ur also enormously gay and fuck u

(ps. recognition is ALSO "hard to measure and not even a bad thing anyway". so no, u r no different)
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Can we get those Heroes Genji talents in Overwatch?


>The Dragon Becomes Me (R1)
Each time Dragonblade hits an enemy Hero, the duration of Dragonblade is increased by 1 second.

>Nanosteel Shuriken (Q)

Shuriken now pierce all enemies hit.

>Zanshin (W)

Quest: Block 6500 damage with Deflect, including damage blocked so far.

Reward: Deflect hits all nearby enemy Heroes.
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>>174252857
>Any other big holes left?
Mercy's
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>>174252805
Remember when they fixed this?

Remember when they reverted it within a week because Hanzo players couldn't hit shit as a result?
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>he can't carry himself to at the LEAST to master

if you can't play soldier, tracer, mccree or genji by yourself, solo queuing, to master

you

are

fucking

terrible

stop whining and play more and get good

>"i play mercy and am stuck in platinum my team sucks"

fucking uninstall and go play league of legends
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>>174252857
>OW is trying its damnest to fix its lore.
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>>174252805
t. Hanzo main
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>majority of player are ass at aiming in this fps
>they want Pharah nerfed
Makes my blood boil.
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>>174252884
>I need healing
+20% from all healing effects
Only when health is 80% and above
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>>174249109
We come back for lore despite hating the game.
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>>174252482
People can't aim consistently, also PharahMercy
it's already bad enough no one focuses Mercy so imagine not being able to hit Pharah on top of that
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>>174252884
>Each time Dragonblade hits an enemy Hero, the duration of Dragonblade is increased by 1 second.
so it never ends until you get a team kill, cool

why are genji mains always the ones with the most retarded ideas to buff their mains, you see it from other people but it's always genji mains who are "uhhh he should instantly kill the enemy team when he ults"
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>>174252857
>fix
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>>174253168
>>174252967
Loose timeline, zero characterization of many characters, wide swings of tone.
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>>174253285
Yea, and we still have all three of those things, what about it.
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>>174252584
I don't think mercy would approve of your shitposting.
She'd probably be very disappointed and even disgusted by your behavior.
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>>174252956
>>174252969
Nice source, now go back to >>>/x/
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>>174253285
>zero characterization of many characters
You wot
If anything I'd say the characters are way too fucking exhuberant
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>>174253424
low-quality shitpost, hanzo
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>Be moron decide to try out new characters in comp
>lose from 2300 to 1800 SR
>instantly go from decentish picks and communication to 3 offenses a hanzo and junkrat
What have I done
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>>174253424
do people who post the chicken only post obvious bait that seems to be the case
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I get this weird vibe of best friendship and romance in the Jack and Ana relationship. I wonder if since Overwatch got in the way of everything the best they could settle with was just best friends.
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>>174253478
You got what you deserved.

Comp people should only be playing their best game every game, not fucking around with new shit. If only more people were punished like you for it.
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>>174253067
>People can't aim consistently
i hear this argument like 20 times a day

and they do. From gold on, and especially from diamond up people DO aim consistently, they DO delete pharahs

and not many people play mercy anymore, too much harassment
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I want to fuck Ana in her old brown pussy! I want her to love me!
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>>174253478
>>lose from 2300 to 1800 SR
How long were you trying them out?
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>>174253801
I want to BE__ Orisa and paizuri a bunch of people!
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>>174253478
Happened to me on my main, went from 2500 to 1500 and bought a new account

now 3700~

you cant climb if you arent getting placed high from the first 10 matches
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>>174252874
recognition is not hard to measure. You can measure people's knowledge of you and their disposition towards you. It's literally a yes or no anon, of whether or not they knew it was you. Your statement is false.

And even in the hypothetical of both positive emotions and recognition being quantifiable, they would still be different than each other. The person who does a good act for good feelings is more morally righteous than the person who only does a good deed for recognition. So even in a hypothetical, you're still wrong.
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>Pharah is part native American
>McCree is a cowboy

This stuff rights itself guys.
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>>174253984
>you cant climb if you arent getting placed high from the first 10 matches

This is bullshit and you don't have 3700, you fucking shitty liar

I have literally three times went from bronze to grandmaster and everything until 3900 is easy as shit. you literally take a shit on the people you play against, and I am sure as heck I would take a shit on you as well you liar fuck.

Everyone below master is a turdbrain
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>>174253578
I don't think Ana ever married, not to Pharahs dad or anyone so yeah Overwatch was definitely interfering with her life at least.
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>its Reinhardt charges ahead on his own episode
>Its Mercy gets blamed for the loss episode
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>>174243905
>I 2 shot any non-tank
are you in plat anon because he doesn't do "moderate" damage if you're actually good at the game
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>>174254113
>the most AMERICA character in the game
>with a fucking leaf

Disgusting desu
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i'm gonna practice reinhardt in comp now good luck team
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>>174252503
4400 here. Mercy main
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>>174254043
affirmation is not hard to measure. You can measure people's feelings of themselves and their disposition towards their action. It's literally a yes or no anon, of whether or not they knew they believe that they are good. Your statement is false.

And even in the hypothetical of both positive emotions and recognition being quantifiable, they would still be different than each other. The person who does a good act for good feelings is less morally righteous than the person who only does a good deed for recognition. So even in a hypothetical, you're still wrong.

hmmm...
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>>174253578
Honestly, I'm a die hard R76fag, but I can't deny he probably had/has feelings for her and never acted on them because of her already being on a relationship with another man.
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>>174244324
why make the character more braindead than he already is. I like the idea of the invincibility frame during rolls but the other suggestions are either not meaningful or completely unnecessary
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>>174244626

> nearly all brown characters are evil

Lol, no they're not. Pharah and Ana are good. Lucio is good. Sym is autistic. Sombra is neither good nor bad. Reaper is bad, yes.
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>>174254295
At least deleting people from the game takes some amount of skill as him now. I still have flashbacks to HOL UP
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>>174253578
They're hardy army comrades. Even if they were both guys they'd talk to each other like that.
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>>174253354
I did say "trying".

>>174253440
Mercy and Reyes got a bit more personality in this. A bit more Tjorbjorn too.
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god fucking damn why does VAC have to be such a piece of shit software, the only reason i don't just stick to CSGO is because it feels like shit when a cheater controls whether you win or lose the game

i wish i could just uninstall OW and say bye bye to all this shield barrier spamming garbage and all the no aim required ways to deal damage but this game feels alright for a chage after i meet a hacker in MM
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What are some instaleave situations for you?

>attacking Eichenwald
>defense has Torb/Symm/Mercy
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>>174254217
I would be surprised if she was married. Everything so far has made her sound like she was a single mom.
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>>174254376
A person's feeling towards themselves being measurable or not is irrelevant. The original statement was about altruism existing, and I mentioned that some people get good feelings but that that is ultimately irrelevant.

and you just changed the second part to be a simply false statement lol
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>>174254586
Reyes is the only one who sort of got more character.

Torbjorn didn't get shit, outside of "I came up with everyone's catchphrases".
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>>174253947
>humanized face

fucking casuals
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>>174245951
rules for ranked:
1. Don't play ranked after losing 3 in a row for the day
2. Don't rage queue
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Anyone got a collection of Overwatch fapfics? Or anything new with Orisa?
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>tfw everyone waifus Ana but she reminds you too much of your actual Egyptian aunties
And they're tough aunties too, I don't know how they got to be so tough.
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>>174254705
She is much cuter with a human face. The face is the most important part.
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>>174254654
We learned Torb didn't have paitence at all for Tracers bullshit
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>>174254709
Do not fuck the cow
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>>174254543
I think some of things said and done could be argued both ways
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>>174254709
You do you want to summon the orisaposter, anon?
You're in luck, he's already here.
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>>174254830
>cow
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>>174254830
>Do not fuck the cow
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>>174247376
Genji can be a nuisance at best if a "good" player is using him, unlike other DPS the general public can't just select him and expect to be efficient, the reason why he sucks is that it takes a long time of practice simply for Genji to be as effective as an amateur Soldier/reaper/pharah/etc.
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>>174254654
>"I came up with everyone's catchphrases"
I don't know, I thought that was pretty cool
Also he got tons of dialogues during the king's row events
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>>174246229

she is so easily countered by hitscans

I hate to say it, but git gud
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>>174245951

Do not play Comp in casual primetime.

Resist the urge.
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>>174254810
But she wasn't even that bad in the event :(
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>>174246229
>so hitscan can actually deal with her if she is shooting at them
didn't they just flat out remove her knockback a while ago because of this?
if you're playing hitscan and die to pharah you're comically garbage
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>>174254940
Cow
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>>174254997
no he flat out carries games when you are good with him, he's not just an nuisance

just fucking look at how much genji you see in the top3 most played heroes of top500 players

sure some average trashcan is more effective with easier heroes but heroes' power level is measured by how they fare when played optimally
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>>174254386
A tale of two cities like plot would make things interesting. 76 dies for a married woman that he loves in the end.
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>>174250712
>putting extremely basic gameplay to music
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>>174254940
to be fair kyoani made kanna a fat fucking cow with those thighs.

He was referring to Orisa though.
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>Pharah being healed by Mercy and Zen simulatneously
>literally invulnerable

Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>174254830
She's horse.
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>>174255114
>clicked comp by accident
>get into match in a split second
>unranked everywhere
>one guy left early so match ends

And that is how my first comp game went
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>>174255268
It's about having fun, a rare element generated only by Lucio players
>>
How to deal with bad teams?

I'm ready to give up to be honest, it's a non stop shitshow and this game relies too much on your team not being brain dead to do anything.
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>>174253717
From diamond down no they do not
>not many people play mercy anymore, too much harassment
You can't be fucking serious especially when there are many times a Mercy will go unfocused and the shitload of people who play her or only play her
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>>174255240
>using the top 0.01 percent to justify using a hero
so he's only good if a top 500 player uses him? lol
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>>174255474
That's a legitiate balance choice, look at sombra.
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>>174255010
I never understood this, why is he just hitting the fucking floor in weird irregular movements
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>>174255449
i am currently at 2900, down from 3600 and i was 3789 last season.

People CAN aim.

Feels like every second match there is either a soldier or mcree who can aim at least decently and our healers are usually pocket healing whoever they duo with

also mcree doesnt need aim, this game has no recoil. they only need semi decent tracking
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>>174255010
>tfw it's been so fucking long since a Torb potg thread
Post dworf potgs
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>>174255339
dodged a bullet m8
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>>174255721
>also mcree doesnt need aim, this game has no recoil. they only need semi decent tracking

you truly belong in plat you shitbrained fucktard
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i find myself struggling to kill mercy as genji, she always spams shift away from me to run to her tanks. maybe i just suck..
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>playing at prime hours
>top 500
>I somehow get a 3700 mercy main
>3 min into match
>mercy: uh sorry guys but I gotta eat dinner
>she leaves
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Who would win in a fight? Reaper or 5 feet of distance.
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>>174255721
>no recoil
>click with mcree
>entire screen violently shakes and displaces crosshair

ok retard
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>>174255447
>waaaaah waaaaaah team bad! i am good but team is bad

>waaaa waaaaa
>>
The only area I've ever made Orisa work on is Hollywood Point A.

You may as well kill yourself on Lijang Tower.
>>
The simple reality is that on some maps, Pharah is just outright overpowered. Any map that gives her lots of space to fly turns her from a floating ult charge to a queen of the skies. And most of the heroes that can deal with her have been nerfed into oblivion (McCree, Widow) or have better things to do (Ana.)
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>>174246135
Reminder that flex players are usually better at your role than you are, but you're too stubborn/proud of your gold damage on shields to switch so they can actually carry your 33% accuracy McCree
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>>174254997

This.

Genji is a high skill hero who is viable in the right hands.

The problem is he's also a meme hero so the casual shitters and 12yr olds love him. He attracts a certain type of player and it's no coincidence that they pick Hanzo if Genji is taken even though they have almost totally different playstyles.
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>>174254654
I didn't know he was a huge douche outside of omnic rights.

And Mercy being a hardass to Morrison was a bit unexpected.
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Should we talk again about how R78 is actually canon and all the Ana76 shipper live in denial, because they can't accept their precious ship is never happening?
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>>174255859
>Be Orisa
>Ching Chong Tower
>Plant shield
>Suddenly a flanker appears to the side/behind
>Every single time

There is no area of that map where she can park and be safe.
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>>174245643
That's by far the most weeb skin he has. It's like a DI Genji. I really like it
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>>174255474
Yes. And it is the same for McMeme.
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>>174256109
fuck off to tumblr with this retarded fantasy lore shit you retard
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>>174256109
>>
>my Deadeye doesn't kill opposing players in plain sight
>enemy deadeye kills me behind walls

hmm
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>>174244285
>>174244626
>>174254508
I'm glad I always have 4chan to inform me the game I like was actually sjw propaganda all along. Now I can finally drop this shit.
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>>174255474
no? it just shows that clearly he is a good fucking hero if people can reach the very top of the ladder by playing him

like surely you understand that hero balance/power is judged by looking at what is happening at the very top level? you can't judge balance by looking at people who can't even play the fucking game. how can you rate the usefulness of a tool if the person using the tool can't use it?
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>>174256109
THIS IS BAIT

MULTIPLE POSTERS HAVE ADMITTED TO ONLY POSTING THE HOMOSEXUAL SHIP "REAPER/76" FOR You)S AND ATTENTION
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>>174256352

I don't think it's SJW propaganda, mate.
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>>174255785
>Mercy in spiderman pajamas
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>it's a "i'm throwing because one guy doesn't switch but it's totally not my fault that we lost" episode
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>>174249064
"and you are looking as lovely as ever"
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>>174256216
>>174256229
>>174256429

Someone can't deal with reality.
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>>174256109

Again, your obsession with this is troubling. You need help, anon.
>>
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20754225379

PATCH NOTES BOIS
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>>174256324
Obviously, you should meme arrow on a cambodian rock art enthusiasts imageforum instead of trying to understand how the game works.
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>>174238637
>play reaper
>wait until orisa's shield is on cooldown to ult so she doesn't cuck me with it
>ult on top of her and 2 squishies
>she pops fortify and shoots me in the head
>kills me and lumbers off with half health
The ability is fine, it can save you from most non-burst damage
>>
So Lucio is totally going to be nerfed to shit. Or would they just ignore it like they do with 76?
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>>174255328
>not shooting the healers first
>zenyatta being played at all
it's like you want to telegraph that you're in bronze
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>>174256569
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>>174256683
>No Orisa buff

Literally who cares
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>>174256789
>I played 3 of the 20+ character roster that is countered by Fortify
>This means Orisa is fine

LMAO
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>>174256838
is lucio really that good?
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>>174257103
>no Robbie Rotten skin for Junkrat
>>
>Lucio can now DPS with the likes of soldier and Pharah

Was being able to do massive DPS one of the huge things Lucio mains were screaming about?
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>>174256843
>what are tanks
>what are front lines/back lines
>what are 120DMG rockets up your ass

It's like you want to telegraph you're absolutely retarded.
>>
>Match up
>Hanzo, Genji, Torb and Junk instalock
>herewegoagain.jpg
>pick rein
>kill their rein and mercy
>mercy ragequits
>game is cancelled
Is there a better feeling lads?
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>>174257234
>what are tanks
The guys not getting healed and are thus easy to kill because the Mercy and Zen are APPARENTLY stuck on Pharah.

They are also the guys on your end that blocks Pharah's rockets or even hooks her from the sky for an instakill.
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>enemy has good Tracer and Genji
>our McCree has a learning disability and refuses to change

What does Blizzard expect us to do in this situation, accept the loss and move on?
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>>174256683
>they patched the exploit
Well shit, legendary is pretty much impossible with pubs now. Guess I'll never get the spray.
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>>174257179
lucio was already able to 1v1 before the changes
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>>174253947
what does paizuri mean?
>>
>>174245825
They recently lowered the restrictions on which skins can be legendary.

They used to require a lot more. But lootboxes ruined it.
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>>174257179
>Lucio mains
>Not perfectly happy with every iteration of him
>>
Why is Blizzard so retarded at the whole SR thing. 25 if you win, 25 if you lose, simple isn't it?
>>
>>174257445
>what is google
>>
>>174257179
What you're feeling now is the consequence of having to force Lucio players to headshot to deal damage for a year.
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>>174257445
I means that you have to be 18 or older to post here.
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>>174257438
It took him forever to kill anything back then. Now he's yet another overpowered DPS Support. Might was well remove the Offense and Defense characters if we're making all the Support characters do better damage than them.
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>>174257234
screencap your SR for me, lad
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Zarya is for
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>Orisa literally cannot kill a Mercy + Lucio combo
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>>174257086
He's pretty great atm. He can scare the shit out of any of the DPS's while also being hard to hit and sustainable. You could argue he was that before the buff, but it boosted every combat aspect of his.
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>>174257179
>tfw either fucking destroying or cowering away Tracers and Genjis all day everyday
>tfw Tracers and Genjis solo ult you
fuck outta here slowpokes
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>>174257705
Not using articles, because it makes russians sound cuter.
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>>174257705
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>>174257705
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how do I play Lucio and resist the temptation to ditch my team and dive the enemy backline
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>>174257509
I don't want to taint my google history with weeb shit

>>174257570
The fact that I'm not a animu loving neet beta cuck doesn't mean I'm not old enough to be your father, provided your mother wasn't such an ugly bitch as she is.
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>>174256683
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that didn't already complete the legendary achievement
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>>174257489
Because they want to sabotage their MMR with performance metrics.
Blizz seems to have an absurd, immeasurable phobia of smurfs, and are okay with making their matchmaking awful just so they can approximately place new players.
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>Reddit - Orisa is trash
>/owg/ - Orisa is trash
>Blizzard Forums - Orisa is fine, saying she's bad will have you downvoted to hell

Hmm.
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>>174257987
Your maturity really shines thru with that classy "yo mamma" joke! You are gonna go far, kid.
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>>174257978
by posting the source of your pic
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>>174258091
She is fine if the team's Ana is on point with her healing and the Orisa knows how to use her gun properly. People never seem to shoot Halt at the floor to pull the flankers right in front for her for some easy damage
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>>174258291
>She's fine if she's combined with a busted character who could solo carry her team anyway

This is not how you judge a hero's quality.
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>>174258091
the problem is she doesn't really do anything that one of the other heroes can't do better

her stationary shield is only really good on defense

she can't hit shit from range unless they are stationary

she get's destroyed by flankers without a lot of support

at best she can off-tank with rein and provide some poke, which isn't really doing anything

i like the hero, but she doesn't really work in any team comps right now
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>>174258379
I mean, it is a team game after all. Team work is important
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>>174258383
>2/3 of orisa porn has robo dick
>1/2 of that is horse cock
best girl
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>>174257843
unf
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>>174258383
You probably never tried to combo her M2 with Junkrat.
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>>174258543
It's still not how you judge a hero's quality.

Reinhardt by his lonesome is still a terrifying presence at close range.

Sombra is too reliant on teamwork to be good, when 90% of the roster can be played on auto-pilot.
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>>17425825
mature=/=old

When you grow up a bit you'll know especially when you have to socialize with "immature" people like me.
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>>174258784
*Orisa

Not Sombra, bleh.
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took them long enough
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Nice matchmaking Blizzshits.
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>>174258383
That's pretty hot
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>>174258769
>mfw comboing her m2 into zarya's grav into pharah's ult
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>every released hero has been female
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>Genji is a good hero
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>>174256683
I have to wonder what the fuck caused the aiming bug on the Uprising payload
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>>174240574
>>174239892
wew
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>>174258962
Don't worry, manliness is coming to offset it.
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>>174258784
>Orisa is too reliant on teamwork to be good, when 90% of the roster can be played on auto-pilot.

FUCKING
THIS

YOU CANNOT MAKE A HERO AND HAVE THEIR ENTIRE KIT RELIANT ON THE QUALITY OF THEIR TEAM. IT MAKES THEM A TRASH PICK IN 99% OF SCENARIOS. EVERY MOVE HAS TO BE ANNOUNCED, COORDINATED AND MATCHED WITH THE ABILITIES AND POSITINIONG OF YOUR TEAMMATES. UNLESS YOU ARE IN A PRO SETTING THIS IS NOT FEASIBLE.

ORISA NEEDS TO BE GOOD AS A SOLO HERO. EVERY HERO DOES.
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>>174258978
because the payload slightly tilted and so did his hitbox
so your aim was tilted but not your crosshair
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Anyone else quit this game because of pharah? She isn't necessarily OP, just extremely unfun to play against. 80% of the characters can not damager her reliably. Why would you add a flying character to a game where most heros aee projectiles???
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>>174259048
men are being phased out

only women and trannies from here on out

thanks feminism
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>>174258924
someone's gonna get torn apart for that whitewashing
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>>174258964

I have no idea how anyone plays Genji.

>shitty M1 that does no damage
>deflect that is clearly broadcast and easily circumvented
>zip forward thing that can be sidestepped
>ultimate appears to do nothing as I have never been killed by it ever

His only positive is being able to double jump and climb, which Hanzo can also do
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>>174259164
homing rocket hero when
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>>174258924
Shippers are literally insane.
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>>174258935
Overwatch's competitive mode is pretty much a joke and will remain to be one until separate queues for solos and groups are introduced.
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>>174259274
I'm sure bronze genjis are easy to play against.
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>>174259164
tell your ana or hitscan to shoot her
or get out of silver
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>>174259290
>yfw Soundquake has homing missiles that lock on to any airborne character
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>>174259362
That's fucking stupid, how would a group of 5 people play the game?
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>>174259362
>get matched with a 3 man premade
>they're shit
>opposite team has a 3 man premade
>they're korean-tier mlg-ready korean zergs
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>>174259415

My rank is 3k, I have never seen a Genji ever
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>>174259498
play quickplay
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>>174259438
Are you retarded? I said she is not fun to play against. You know the reason I play video games?
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>>174257987
>these random words I slammed together will make you kneel to my awesomeness!

You have anything useful to contribute, child?
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>>174259498
They wouldn't?
Find a last random to invite to your party or don't queue, simple as that
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>>174259535
Must be nice. In the same ranking and there is always a genji on both teams.
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>when you get a hexakill with knockback on pharah

this feels great, god I love liajang tower
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>>174259609
>the reason
to be really bad at them and complain here?
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>>174259129
>SOLO HERO
Every good solo hero (quickscope Widow, triple jump 8 sec ult Genji, McM2) gets nerfed.
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>>174259660
Or just leave everything as it is.
Why would they put the experience of a single salty faggot above that of five other paying customers?
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>>174259840
Reinhardt is scary as fuck even by himself.

So is Zarya.

Unless you're specifically playing their handful of hard counters, they will demolish you if played well.
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>>174259828
Who said anything about being bad? I just don't enjoy staring into the sky in a moba fps. You do and that is fine. Stay salty that I don't like your casual game anymore.
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>>174260028
you represent the standard /vg/ autist, always on the defensive and incapable of understanding how to play vidya well while having fun at the same time

kys
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>>174259952
zarya is not scary at all anymore
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>>174260132
>provide valid criticism
>"lol ur just bad"
Not even him but you're retarded.
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>>174259498
who says they should be able to?

in dota 2 you can't queue for ranked as a group of 4 (it's a 5v5) game

by same logic it would make sense to forbid 5 man groups in OW
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>>174259782
Lijiang Tower is pretty much Pharah porn
Aside from the Control Room
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>2-2 KOTH
>Comes down to the wire 90% to 90% and we have the point
>They come in to make their last push
>We wipe 5 of them and I hear "MY SHIELD GENERATOR WAS DESTROYED"
>Realize one of their DPS spent the entire final push hunting and killing my shield gen

This actually happens so often. How can people possibly think that 75 health, laughable excuse for an ultimate that I put down to distract idiots is ANYTHING except that?
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>>174238470

It's fixed now.
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>>174259438
>be ana
>getting shot at by pharah
>starting shooting back
>ask for help to kill pharah
>die in 2 hits if don't take cover
>takes 3 hits to kill pharah
>more if it is pharmercy

it only really works if pharah is far away and not focusing you

if ana has to focus on pharah then she can't do her job and it's fucked
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>>174259840
Roadhog still rides strong.

Also LOL what a captcha: STOP ESPORT
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>>174260319
>waaah waaah looking up requires too much mental capacity and skill
>the one hero in the game that I have to look up at to shoot ruins the entire game
>valid criticism
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>>174260548
Well it seems to be working. People on the blizzard forums have gotten Geoff to say he'll "take a look at Pharah"
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>>174260028
>Moba FPS
What
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>>174260548
>pharah
>damage hero that can attack from any angle
>requires a nerf, blizzard will look into it

>genji
>damage hero that can attack from any angle
>buff him
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>>174246886
Don't forget the epic 3man stack who pick a character that CAN heal, but won't heal you, ever.
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why is this game so fucking buggy nowadays

like occasionally i don't see enemy healthbars at all when i damage them
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>>174260132
Serious question, are you retarded? You're ability to comprehend English represents special needs teir.
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>>174260341

I do surprisingly good on that point too for some reason.
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>team needs a tank
>okay, here I go
>enemy team spends the entire match dogpiling me six-against-one even when the rest of my team's there and killing me instantly
>even when retreating there's three of them crawling into my ass
>got to the point where one would sit outside the spawn and let everyone else go by but then harass me the entire way back to the payload

What the flying fuck, seriously.
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We won ths game >>174258935 and I got a whopping 10 sr for that. Are they fucking serious.
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>>174261064
Were you playing support? Someone said they get lowered SR for some reason.
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>>174260818
I main pharah and only feel over powered if A: I'm in a pharmacy B: The enemy is too dumb to look up. Most of times a hit scan makes me their priority and I have some work to do.

A great Genji is basically as effective as a
Pharah, but most people that put time on Genji just land a lot of little star hits for frequent ult meter release. Most aren't doing shit unless it's time to ult.
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>>174261064
were you lucio playing mostly on speed aura
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>Hanzo and Widowmaker AND Genji in every team I join
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U JELLY /owg/?
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>>174261310
>people want to play fun heroes in a video game
who could've ever predicted this

the real question is why the fuck blizzard even made heroes so one dimensional and boring as say symmetra and winston in same game as something so mechanically intensive and skill intensive as genji
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>>174261310
>get matched with a Hanzo and Widow main on Hanamura attack
>we win
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LOWER GENJIS ABILITY COOLDOWNS REEEEEEEEE
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>>174261310
>Go junkrat because we obviously dont care about winning
>"Stupid junkrat switch to a tank or healer you useless faggot"
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>>174261436
ugly ass color scheme and wtf are those ears

thanks doc
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>>174261262
>>174261243
Junkrat first round but was very shitty, then 2 rounds winston and the last 2 rounds Lucio.
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>>174261436
OMETETO, BAKA GENJI!
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Is Blizzard honestly retarded enough to do *maintenance* in the middle of EU's most active hours or is it just damage control to cover up their shitty services again?
I can't even enter the game.
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>>174261663
>junkrat in fucking oasis
yeah actually you deserve only 10 points
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>>174260725
Link?
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>Come back to Overwatch after 5 months
>Play one game of quickplay
>Remember why I quit

Fuck I want to like this game, but everyone is so shit
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Anyone want some swedish dwarf porn?

http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3649150
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>>174258962
>One is a founding member of Overwatch
>One had been teased for months
>One is a fucking robot
Cry more fedorafag
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>>174261436
That's whole new level of weeb shit.
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>>174261961
i mostly remember why i hate this game every time there is a shield in my vision and something that requires no aim damages me
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>>174252952
Genji is with you.
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>>174261965
I saw that today.

I can't believe the nips would ever draw my OTP but here we are.
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Speaking of, what do you think the roasters gonna cap at? We're at 24 now and heard they're thinking about retiring heroes.
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when will some big company make an fps game designed to be played 1v1

i'm so fucking tired of team games

i want to play a shooter where the main focus is on dueling and that's what the ranked mode is

why is sc2 like the only 1v1 esport

will quake champions finally fill the need?
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So any official word if Uprising is becoming a normal mode in this game post event? Really hard to see why they would put all the effort into this and every character having voice lines around it for it to not be sticking around
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>>174262353
why are you even posting in /owg/ then
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>>174262308
>retiring heroes
Why the fuck would they do that?
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>>174262353
Quake or Valve games with dedicated servers
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>>174262409
I doubt it. Jukenstein's Revenge didn't stick around. I know it had a lot less voice lines, though.

Best case scenario is that it stays around and we can make custom PvE's with the Null Sector bots.
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>>174262482
They wouldn't but honestly this game could be a lot more fun for literally everybody if D.Va was deleted.
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>>174262569
That's an odd way to spell Symmetra.
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>>174262438
because i play this shitty game where everything that is able to solo carry with superior mechanical skill gets eventually nerfed. i'm interested to see how long it will take for tracer to receive a nerf. i remember the times in beta when you could carry your team to victory kicking and screaming with widow if you had godlike aim

>>174262505
i've played enough quake in my life already. i want some new 1v1 fps with a big booming scene
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So has there ever been an explanation why at least 1 out of 20 games automatically goes to 200+ ping?
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>>174261436
Bitch, unless I see a Zero color scheme, I ain't buying.
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>>174262308
No retiring but Jeff said they're going to keep the same pace if hero release and then slow down at some point
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>>174262639
thats an odd way to spell pharah
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>>174262569
atleast dva needs to somewhat aim
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>>174262802
>t. bronze
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>>174261926
There is no link or any blue post talking about Pharah unless I've simply missed it.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/search?a=Geoff%20Goodman
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What's the trick to making this game fun? I seem to lose like 80% of my games and don't even have fun during it.

Are there no more ultra bads any more?
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>>174262943
they're around, but segregated to their retard elo

just buy a smurf
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>tfw no robot pussy to plunge my dick into
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Tracer is so small
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>>174261457
>so mechanically intensive and skill intensive as genji

You jump around and scream weeb noises while flinging stars praying you don't get shot and then swing a sword for eight seconds, he's as skillful as a fart.
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>>174263065
>implying americans aren't just really fat
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>>174263082
>hurrr i describe the gameplay of a hero in reductionist way
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>>174261014

You sometimes get those super aggressive teams that just charge your spawn and shit, I get them all the time.
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>>174262710
.... You don't really need a booming scene for 1v1 stuff, but I get it. Everything nowadays are designed around small teams. Massive army PvP is limited to Planetside (and Battlefield). And what... Last gen throwbacks like TF2 and Tribes that work will all sorts of team sizes aren't poping
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>>174263065
All the props are jumbo sized
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>>174263065
I think the furniture is just oversized, but Tracer is 5'4" and the idea of her being small and lithe fits her character and abilities.
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>>174263178
>>174263065
Just look at the size of that popcorn bucket.
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Small Lena, haha!
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>>174263294
>5'4"
Perfect bully size.
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>>174263273
She is pretty short in general though
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>>174262409

I have a good feeling it might. Just the inclusion of every hero is a big indicator that it's here for the long haul.

CTF stayed too.
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>>174263215
I described him as he's designed to work. If you want a character who needs lots of skill use Sombra or Winston.
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>>174263671
>le m1 monkey
>>
Lol,HOTS players now have to suffer with Hanamura too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq5-18Vt-c0&t
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>>174263843
>people play this
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>mfw hitting a headshot on a pharah on air with icicle
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>>174239079

I only play QP and Comp when I want to spam Genji memes and shitplay.
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>>174263671
Winston himself doesn't really take much skill, just knowing survivability but that applies to Genji and every other character. Sombra is less about skill and more about your team coordinating with you.

>swing a sword for eight seconds
Oh boy.
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>>174261965
Bit offftopic, but has Gelbooru gone to shit lately? I've seen a huge uprise in ads, and they also removed comment voting. And I'm not sure I can even add favourites or leave comments anymore? I don't know what has happened to the site.
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>>174263843

Why is this so stupidly complicated?

Dota has challenging heroes but nothing as convoluted as this. People will use one of those merc camps (the best one) and the rest will have been a waste of development time.
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>>174263843
It is amusingly nothing to do with Hanamura.

Whatever. I still prefer that game to this. Only here for boxes.
>>
How to get good at Tracer? Should I just pick her in quick play and play 100-200 matches?
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>>174264142
Nah, unless the map ends up being super fast, all the camps will get used. This isn't like DOTA2 where all camps are on one timer, they all have their own.

Trust me, it'll be a lot more simple in practice.
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>tfw no ssd
>tfw always cucked in to tanking or support
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>>174260725
3/10 trolling
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>>174264319
>tfw 5400 rpm spinning rust
>always get to insta-lock Pharah anyways
Works on my machineā„¢.
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>>174264442

My laptop is 7 years old and I'm an extreme poortfag I play the game with 25 fps
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>>174263843
HotS gets better OW skins than OW does, and now new mechanics too... Why can't we have a payload race in Overwatch??
>>
I finally realized today that the Reaper x Soldier 76 phenomenomnmonnoma is exactly the same as the Sasuke and Naruto one in Naruto.

>blonde hair do-good boy and dark edgelord
>YAOI!! >///< XD
>>
When did you realise you're just shit at the game?

I did just now when looking at my ladder "progress" since i started playing comp last season. I have 60 hours on Zen and have not got past 2700. Kill me please
>>
>>174264749
Hope you're not planning on comparing Ana to Pink Slut.
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>>174264749
I mean, duh. They are foils.
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>>174264223
Pick her a lot and get really good at tracking, managing your 7m blinks and recall cooldowns.
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>>174250672
because the average ana player misses all their shots
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>>174264749
That just supports my theory that both are gay, because let's be honest Naruto and Sasuke were GAY AS FUCK
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>>174264749
Naruto really had unhealthy obsession with Sasuke to be honest
He had unhealthy obsession with everything though
>>
>>174264847
When I couldn't solo 2x 1000hp (or whatever they are) AI Bastions on Legendary because pubs are absolute idiots.
Never got past the payload defense phase.
>>
Why is everyone playing the brawl so shit?
>>
>>174265046
Hate to break it to you but most players in general are shit
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>>174264870
Holy shit, didn't even think about it.

It's even more true now.
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>>174244324
>trying to balance a blizzard game
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>>174254113
Is... he getting pegged
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>>174263843
I'm so glad I stopped playing this piece of shit game a while ago
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