/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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What ended up being your favourite and least favourite boss across the games /dsg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRTfcMeqhig
Opinions?

Red pill me on prisoner's chain. ls it really worth it? The +5 vig gets nullified by the -4% resistance so it's +10 levels instead of +15. Other rings like steel and protection +3 or life ring +3 seems better overall

>>174233587
Favourite: Midir
Least: The Ornsy and Smuff Show

>>174233587
>least favourite
Royal Rat Vanguard
>favourite
Abyss Watchers

>>174233587

Favourite: Ludwig
Least: Bed of chaos

>>174233612
kys

>>174233612
Stop shilling your shit video.

>>174233612
Did you like the game or not? Becouse that's the only thing that matters. l don't want to sound like a redditor but fuck what the others think. lf you liked the game more than the other souls good for you. l personally did.

>DS2 is so bad guys really

DS1
>All lords are shit
>O+S, Golem, Priscilla, Tauros, Quellag, Gargoyles, are the only fights that aren't broken or undertuned

DS2
>Every boss fight actually works and is balanced

Really makes you think

>>174233756
>>Every boss fight actually works and is balanced

Oh look, it's copypasted big guy in a suit of armor #36

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>>174233587

Least favourite: Capra Demon
Favourite: Twink Princes

>>174233630
steel ring is only for pve

prisoner's chain is only 3% more damage and you can stack it with rof+3

>>174233801
nice meme

Reminder that dark souls 3 pvp comes down to whoever attacks first loses.

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>tfw finally beat Gael
His high magic resistance made the fight take way longer than I hoped it would. But I git gud. Atleast gud enough to beat him with a moderately suboptimal weapon.

Really fun fight though. Fantastic boss.

>>174233842
>steel ring is only for pve

ls there a defense cap in pvp? l personally use it with armor and get close to 50% slash reduction

>>174233756
I don't think DS2 is a bad game, but you're reaching hard here.

Objectively awful DS2 bosses
>Dragonrider 1 and 2
>Skeleton lords
>Covetous Demon
>Mytha
>OIK
>both rat bosses
>chariot
>Freja
>prowling magus
>both dragons
>nashandra
>throne watcher + defender
>gank trio
>all 3 cats

>>174233927
yeah but who is he

>>174233941
It's effect is reduced and is dogshit as a result. Same with the clutch rings.

Apparently you can't do R1 > Spin sweep > R1 combos anymore?
How do you use that weapon art now?

>>174233973
>Mytha
>Chariot

Sure they weren't hard but they are nowhere near 'awful' territory.
I liked Chariots gimmick.

>>174233804
They sleep in one bed, anon...

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>>174233587
favorite probably princes or gael

least favorites are bed of chaos, ancient wyvern, and over half the bosses of das2

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>>174233612
>>174233756
horrible bait, you're not even trying anymore

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>>174233997
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=62249773
He's manly man. Much better than your shit old god from rotten fanfics

>>174233587
Favorite: probably Gael
Least favorite: torn between centipede demon and royal rat authority

>>174233587
>Favorite
Ludwig, or SoC if he doesn't count.
>Least favorite
Bed of Bullshit

>>174234037
Yeah me too, it's one of the lightest offenders on the list.

Mytha was generic as fuck though. I felt like I'd fought the exact same boss several dozen times throughout my life. See that's my problem with DS2 bosses in general. They're far more generic than Souls bosses have any right to be.

>giant rat
>giant suit of armour guy
>giant spider
>grim reaper
>giant demon with big horns
>woman who was once beautiful but now has a fucked up body

>>174233973
royal rat authority was fine, chariot was a great idea executed poorly, throne watcher/def was fine

>>174233587
Least favorite: Bed of Chaos
Favourite: Either Looking Glass Knight or Darkeater Midir

>>174233973
I had more fun with Mytha and Freja than anything DaS1 except Quelagg.

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Post phantoms being forced to watch their host be idiots

>switch from +4 cleric's chime to +9 yorshka at 56 faith
>this is going to send my damage through the roof
>10% increase
o-oh

>>174234107
A mystic wizard

>>174234180
It's just shameless, right? I can't tell you how many times a Dark Souls boss threw their own severed head at me.

>>174234213
Then you have shit taste and/or are incredibly bad at these games.

>>174234185
i love ds2 but royal rat authority is a less interesting sif with poison mobs added. it is not good.

vanguard was better and it was pretty shit too.

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>>174233635
>Midir
Wow, really? Care to elaborate?

>>174233739
I have to say I probably enjoyed das2 more than 3. I realize it's objectively bad and so on, but at least it tried new things. It also felt like it's own game.
3 just jerked off 1's embered cock until it turned into ash - and don't give me that "it's a sequel" bullcrap. Plenty of sequels do fine with continuing the series, *without* self-fellating.
To be honest I can't wait until they're done with Dark Souls. I want a new game universe. It seems like FROM is at their best when creating new worlds overall (e.g. das1 and BB being the best games they've made)

>>174234286
The head was kinda fun but the appearance in general is what bothers me. Oh look, it's Medusa except according to her name it isn't actually Medusa. Now in which hundred other media sources have I seen Medusa before?

Is there any way to cheese sister friede

>>174234416
summon gael and use bleed

stack frost defense armor too

>>174233587
>Favourite
Midir, Ludwig, Gael, Pontiff, Orphan, Gehrman, Kalameet, Manus. And Gwyn because of ost
>Least
Raid boss Friede. I hate everything about her. Even her lore and dialogues.

>>174234014
>Same with the clutch rings.
But do clutch rings still give the damage bonus in PVP? Or are they completely useless?
On that topic - which rings exactly should you NOT use in PVP (I mean the ones that have different hidden stats in PVE/PVP)

Is Vordt hammer + offhand heavy longsword nice ? Or should i replace the longsword with a small shield and meme with the hornet ring ?

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>>174234373
interesting that you say that, because mytha is not only a stereotypical medusa, but she is also a clone of an enemy from king's field 2.

in her concept art, she even has the exact same hairstyle.

>>174234180
You think Taurus Demon, Capra Demon, Sanctuary Guardian, Quelagg, Gargoyles aren't generic?
Even Artorias is lifted straight out of Berserk.

>>174234462
>die 40 times to Friede
>finish game and kill Gael
>realise I can't summon Gael anymore

>>174233587
>Favorite
Centipede Demon
>Least favorite
>The Rotten

Does someone have a good friede scythe build? ls int worth getting?

>>174234552
Explain your reasoning? This is just such a bizarre choice to me.

>>174234180
>grim reaper
???

>>174234107
>that violent spasm into Yamcha slouch

>>174233587
Overall? Either Ludwig or Gael depending on my mood. Gael is an over all tougher fight, or at least the way I fought him (ricard's on NG+7).Took me 3 days to down him, now it only takes a few attempts. But Ludwig is spectacle with his moonlight sword, and is damn near one of the best super big bosses From has made in the series, I was hoping Yhorm would put what they learned from Ludwig to good use but then we got a shitty retread of the Storm King fight.

>>174234586
My build is 40DEX/30INT, does well enough damage.

>>174234548
bleed infused bandit knife then. 2hand it and poke her while dodging like a maniac

>>174234552
Is it because the rotten arm doesn't fight back once you cut it ?

>>174233927
Every boss should stagger after a few good hits with larger weapons.

>>174234647
>Nashandra
>Chariot

>>174234353
>Care to elaborate?

It's a fun, risky, and well-designed fight. Midir himself is awesome to looks at, extremely well-animated with cool attacks. Great music.
And to top it all off, it's one of the only fights in the entire series that isn't over 20 seconds after it starts regardless of your soul/weapon level. I'm not sure what there is not to like, to be honest.

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>>174234492
Post more like this. I want to see more similarities between the souls games and KF

Are the KF games worth playing these days? Or have they aged like milk?

>>174233587

Kalameet is cool. The worst boss is either Leechmonger or Dirty Colossus.

who /preparedtodine/ here

Holy shit i dont know if ive become retarded or this character is shit but ive been trying to get to the depths of the painting for 2 hours now and keep dying. I had no trouble on my other characters. Fuck this game

>>174234728
didn't think about nashandra because she was mentioned in a different part of the post but yeah, true
can't how chariot is supposed to look like the grim reaper though

Best build to invade and stealth fuck phantoms/host one by one?

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>finally get to lothric
>farm up lothric knight gs
>equip it
>looks weathered as fuck so I don't want to use it on my paladin as the "big" weapon alongside mace

fugge
time to go get great mace afterall

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I wish we got more NPC fuckery.

Thomas and Maldron were awesome. Bradley too.

>>174233587
Fav: Ludwig/CHAMP

Least fav: Centipede/both Rat fights in 2

>>174234667
Least favorite is Loran Darkbeast, Oceiros, or Bed of Chaos.
Loran Darkbeast is the worst boss im Bloodborne because it is close to impossible to reliable dodge most his attacks just due to how much he fucks the camera up thanks to his sheer size. Oceiros is just tedious and annoying to fight with how well he can keep distance between you and him in phase 1 and phase 2 has that dash attack with no telegraph animation at all that he spams to the point where it's hard to tell if it's ever safe to attack him.

>>174234835
you can't

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>>174234749
they've aged poorly, but if you like souls exploration/lore they are still worth a go.

even though they were on a console notorious for loading times, they managed to pull off an interconnected souls-like world without a single loading screen between areas. even while warping.

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>>174233587

>favorite

gonna get shit for this one, but i liked the royal rat vanguard in the grave of saints. Could have been a lot better had they improved the moveset of the rats and changed the arena, but a gang of rats with a boss rat rocking a mohawk is just too good. If they were to remake that fight for a new souls game i think it would be much better.

>least favorite

really anything with a bloated health pool and/or tremendous run back to the boss room, something like the shitty 2cats from ivory dlc.

I hate when I'm free the ENTIRE FUCKING DAY and I waste all my time on for example this board. I could've been playing vidya ffs.
Meanwhile the days that I am busy and have to do other things, I rush home to play souls for like an hour and then have to go to sleep.
It's like it's impossible for me to play video games unless it's night time.

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>>174234749

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>>174234917
Are they on Steam or do i have to emulate them?

Also, post more if you have it, this is my kind of thing

>>174234796
it won't have anything to do with fromsoft, don't get your hopes up unless you're into god eater or something

>>174233587
I really liked Maria and ludwig. Orphan as well, but only if I'm solo

Fuck ancient wyvern, literally pointless

>>174234863
I'm honestly baffled why they took such a step back in 3 with the NPCs

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>>174234043
>They sleep in one bed, anon...

I'd like to sleep in one bed with Lothric...
Or Lorian.

>>174235052
>it won't have anything to do with fromsoft
thank god desu

>>174234990
You have addiction to internet communication. I have it too.

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>>174234990
>>174235135

we're just a couple of no goods

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>>174235043
you have to emulate them, but they all emulate well.

>>174234835
darkmoon ring
magic clutch ring
bellowing dragon ring
free ring slot (prisoner/young/sage/slumbering/scholar)
court sorc/sage's crystal staff
sholar's candlestick
crown of dusk

crystal sour spear/soul stream
hidden body
spook
white branches

60 int

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Rate this Friede's Scythe build

>>174235135
>internet communication.
Never heard of that, but now that you say it I probably do have it. I very rarely talk to people in real life too, so maybe I substitute the internet for real people.
How do you deal with your addiction?

>>174235109
The fact that mai husbando is a cripple and I would probably have to do everything for him really isn't doing anything to stop my weird ageplay fetish.

>>174234107
not sure why but this was my first thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3kkNfH4yco

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>>174235043

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>>174234839
>>farm up lothric knight gs

but you can just buy it

>>174235394
>>174235281
How's the story?

>>174235394
Why's he laughing?

Does Snap Freeze scale with int?

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>>174235404
>you can just buy it
what?

atleast it only took like 10 kills

>>174235294

what's with the 20 attunement? isn't it 18 and 24 for the slots? could take one out and get another fatty point in vigor.

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>>174235471
Greirat

>>174235480
might have something to do with what you can cast at full FP,

>>174235294
garbage, you don't need 40 int, leave it at 30.
Why 20 ATN? The WA combo doesn't consume FP and you ain't gonna be casting spells with only 40 int.

>>174235297
Even if you have good friends IRL you can't talk with them about your favorite things, about anything 24/7 like in internet. And it's hard to find interesting people IRL especially if you already big boy.
>How do you deal with your addiction?
Turn off internet. Don't pay for it.

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>>174235446

>>174235604
Why 30 and not 40? Does int cap at 30 or smth?

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>>174235321
>my weird ageplay fetish.
Hm, that sounds like your devaluing the lord of cinder. I think that's heresy and the hollow angels will fuck you up for that.

FP was a mistake

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>>174235523
I really should start sending him out, I always skip sending him out because I prefer to hold him close

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>>174235436
the story is told in mostly the same way as souls, through item descriptions and NPC dialogue. however some of it is more well hidden than souls because you need the fortune teller in KF2 and points into the wisdom stat in KF3 to see item descriptions.

1-3 are a trilogy, though 1 doesn't really have a story, 4 is separate and non-canon

>>174235446
guyra is laughing because he just nudged someone off the ledge of his arena, kalameet is laughing because someone is trying to cut his tail solo

Why is the PVE so fucking boring?

>make new character
>mule all the shit
>literally cannot be bothered to run through the game for estus shards and other stuff

I get to Undead Settlement and I delete it.

>>174235691
it's kinda like comunism

>>174234128
My heart...

Claymore vs black knight sword. Whats better in ds3 on a quality build?

>>174235714
How about an Ashtus only run?
Did it with my faith chara, pretty fun

>>174235648
Silly anon, why would the angels fuck me up for wanting to take care of their Holy King? Would the angels be willing to carry him to the bathroom? I thought not.

>>174235624
But then I can't get new games, porn and shows

>>174235951
Pick up gardening instead

>>174235951
Download everything you need for months ahead

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>could have had this
>instead it's a shitty robe

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>invade player
>he's shielded by 2 sunbros
>kill both sunbros
>host disconnects

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>>174234128
>you will never love anyone the way Gael loves the Painter

>>174236101
>this is a man

Is there a limit to how many times Miyazaki can bamboozle me?

>>174233587
>Favorite
1-Manus
2-Nameless (KotS included)
3-Ludwig

>Least Favorite
1-Bed of Chaos
2-*insert most of chalice dungeon bosses here*
3-Ancient Dragon

>tfw always go to 130 instead of 120

Is there any reason to actually stay at 120 if you're aiming to invade/be summoned/duel 120~ people?

>>174236105
>invade player
>host and phantom
>darkmoon
>kill phantom
>another darkmoon
>kill two darkmoons
>host use "collapse" gesture and then kill himself

Is DS2 still active on the PS4? I want to play the game and try to get platinum but i'm a bad player and will need the help of phantoms

>>174236280
because getting invaded is fun

>tfw always go to 140 instead of 130

Is there any reason to actually stay at 130 if you're aiming to invade/be summoned/duel 130~ people?

>tfw always go to 150 instead of 140

Is there any reason to actually stay at 140 if you're aiming to invade/be summoned/duel 140~ people?

>tfw always go to 387 instead of 140

Is there any reason to actually stay at 340 if you're aiming to invade/be summoned/duel 340~ people?

>>174236446
kek

>>174234043

"This spot marks our bed. You may rest here too, if you like."

Do ashes go through NG?

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Someone convince me not to go full retard 70 dex please. The 60-70 gains for sharp are surprisingly high but surely it's not worth it right?

>>174233973
>objectively awful bosses
>includes fine bosses that he subjectively disliked

>>174233612
>off-brand Vaati voice
>forced, unfunny jokes
>ONE HOUR AND TWENTY MINUTES
Fuck off.

>>174236446
You got less and less advantages at high levels tho. I don't think there is big difference between 120SL 66STR and 140SL 66STR builds. And more important that most of time you already fighting against 150SL phantoms.

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Just soloed Friede
does the third phase have literally 2 attack windows for slow weapons?

>>174236605
what good is HA if no Poise?
at least that's the only problem I see

>>174236705
>GS without poise
Just stop. This is your problem

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>curse got completely nerfed in comparison to DS1
>still no weapon or spell with curse effect

>>174233612

>Joseph Anderson's analysis, but with bad jokes and a hateboner for MM

Eh

>>174235808
Help mee

>>174236759
>implying freide doesn't get random hyper armor
poise wont help when she's still gonna combo you for 80% without getting stunned

>>174233927
Does his boss model have a face?

>>174236738
>Dagger
Against lighter weapons that poise is enough. Against ultra weapons just quickstep into backstabs.

>>174234353
>I probably enjoyed das2 more than 3. I realize it's objectively bad and so on
cut out /v/ my man

>>174236705
I did the same. There's quite a few actually. She's open at the end of almost every combo.

>>174236838
I think not. I like it that way. He looks nightmarish.

Post your most fun low level build.

>>174233739
>l don't want to sound like a redditor but fuck what the others think.

reddit detected

>>174236996
I wouldnt say nightmarish but he sure does look imposing
Also what is up with the gaping hole ? What caused it? I'm seeing a little round thing inside, is it his heart?

>>174236836
Don't know about phase 3, but in phase 1 and 2 only one attack has HA and it's not random.
It has a similar startup to any other attack but the swing noise is completely different to anything else she does.

>>174236113
>still says ririrsu

also i think you mean nobody will ever love YOU the way gael painter etc

The Demon Ruins is by far the worst area in this game.

>>174237082
It's the Darksign that undead bear, except fucking huge because he drank too much dark soul juice.

>>174237082
That's most likely his darksign that eroded his body after living for so goddamn long/after consuming the Dark Soul

>>174237125
>not blighttown
okay

>>174237082
>I'm seeing a little round thing inside, is it his heart?

It's his thing, his fine dark soul to you.

>>174237125
Underrated for invasions. Rarely anyone summon 3 phantoms here

>>174233587

Favourite: Artorias
Least Favourite: Ancient Dragon

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What's the worse sin

A.I cheated in my first runthrough of Dark Souls

or

B. To this day I have never cared to save Solaire and have yet to finish his questline

>>174237187
>>>/reddit/

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> get to dlc area
> oh shit better take cover from the angel
> kill 2 enemies
> ok save zone
> suddenly everythings glowing
> "oh that's nice better take a screenshot"
> mfw

>>174237264
Neither is a sin desu.
You're not even supposed to save Solaire. The method to save him feels like an afterthought because "praise le sun" fanboys would complain otherwise.

>Use SSS+DMB in arena along with lightning arrow and projected heal
>just some disconnects but no hatemail

Is it time to make a LMAO2UGS invasion build?

>>174233587
Twin Princes or Gael

Bed of Chaos will forever be garbage

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>>174237316
Well. Cheating felt the worst to me. I vowed not to play future games until I beat it legit but it still spoiled me and ruined my game experience.

Currently I started over and I'm going through the DLC for the first time ever and I would rather be dying an enemy boss I know nothing about than cheat at any point

>>174237462
I cheated with DS3. Felt fucking bad man. Going into the DLCs blind was mindblowing in comparison though.

>>174237171
>>174237175
>>174237196
It's probably this
Do you think it hurts? I often whimper during the fight
He had a hard life

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>>174237406
>Liking a boss that literally shit talks you when you lose

I WASN'T EVEN TRYING YOU POMPOUS PRICK JUST WAIT TILL I GET BACK I'LL FUCK YOU AND YOUR CRIPPLED BROTHER

>>174237507
The only thing I did in DAS3 was extend how many rebirths I had and that was after I had beaten the core game. I don't feel AS bad doing that since it is working a game mechanic and tweaking it. But sometimes I feel tempted to beat the game without rebirthing at all

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>>174236383
That's surprisingly bushido.

>>174237547
>Do you think it hurts?
I don't think having a gaping hole in your chest is a good thing anon.

>>174237264
A by far. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>174237648
>I don't think having a gaping hole in your chest is a good thing anon.

i wouldn't say no to dank soul powers / being a big guy

>>174236917
>cut out /v/ my man
Sorry, I don't go to /v/. Could you explain what you mean?

>>174237738
>being a big guy
For you

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>>174236105
>>174236383
>Giving up after people died to protect you
>Not giving it your all, accepting defeat, or at the very least running away

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>>174237648
What's the deal with the dark sign anyway? Gwyn created the darksign/undead curse for whatever reason (to keep the pygmies/humans under control?), and it seems to just empty them of their humanity/sliver of the dark soul. Is that how it works?

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IS THERE A REASON GAEL'S COMBO HITS THREE TIMES INSTEAD OF 2
JESUS FUCKING CANCER

Give me a reason why these weapons exist:

>harpe
>tailbone shortsword
>parrying dagger
>shortsword
>broken straight sword
>cleric's candlestick
>bastard sword
>flamberge
>scimitar
>painting guardian sword
>storm curved sword
>crescent moon sword
>shotel
>murakumo
>carthus curved greatsword
>darkdrift
>uchigatana
>rapier
>ricard's rapier
>any axe that isnt dragonslayer axe, millwood, or twinaxes
>great machete
>greataxe
>earthseeker
>demon greataxe
>club
>morningstar
>blacksmith hammer
>gargoyle hammer
>"great" wooden hammer
>pike
>spear
>winged spear
>arstor's spear
>halberd
>winged knight halberd
>great scythe
>non-witch's locks whips
>every bow

Why are over half of the weapons in this game pointless downgrades, worse in every way, most of them with not even a unique r2 or weapon art?
Worse than DaS2

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>>174237735
DAS was my first game

I was super casual and had died hundreds of times before even getting to Anor Londo

It was the worst thing to do and I hate myself for it.

Ironically I still died plenty of times while cheating

>>174237862
because the sword costs 15 dollarydoos to use

>>174237862
Because you made the mistake of not using a hyper armor weapon

>>174237625
>not liking a boss that talks shit when you die
I want a boss actively roasting me for choices in weapons and armor, even for ways used to deal with enemies in the playthrough
>fallen knight armor and dark sword? Are you TRYING to be a casual stereotype
>did you really have to kite each of those lothric knights at leash range?
>you leveled luck? What the blazes is wrong with you?

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>>174237862
I want to fuck Seath and Oceiros

>>174237882
I didn't even know the first two existed.

>>174237264
A without a question. I cannot fathom why you would ruin your experience like that.

>>174237882
You're pretty bad if you can't make well over half of those weapons work.

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>>174237882
>talking shit about great wooden hammer

>>174238058
>seath will never turn you into a girl and force you to spend the rest of your days giving birth to his crossbreed children
Why live?

Anyone have any guides on an early game faith build, considering you're going to suck until much later in the game? Like weapons to go for etc?

>>174238151
how come when ledo hits me it's for 70% of my fucking hp

>>174237882
>bleed version of an existing weapon but with less dmg
>unique weapon to match the enemy or just boss weapon
>low req weapon

I know you're the typical 40/40 SL120 metaknight, but unironically listing a halberd? kek

>>174238045
When I challenged the Crestfallen Warrior in 1 and lost he goes

"Now, that's just embarrassing.
How'd you let me do that to you?"

I felt like I had been literally raped

>>174238151
You're char is a big guy

>>174238085
Why would I use them? They're trash. No one uses them for good reasons.. They have nothing to make them unique and just perform extremely poorly.

>>174238176
Raw Estoc

>>174238176
>Anyone have any guides on an early game faith build, considering you're going to suck until much later in the game? Like weapons to go for etc?

just use the mace

>>174237774
feeling bad about liking a game because some faggots claim it's "objectively bad" sounded like an extremely /v/ thing to do

>>174238230
It's like you don't take pleasure in humiliating people by beating them with garbage

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>>174238156
It makes you wonder what Seath was planning to do to you when he captures you and puts you in jail. I figure he wanted to force breed you with those snake sisters also held in captivity

He wanted to experiment with you and I would have stayed to find out how

How are brigand daggers after the patch? Worth using?

>>174238176
Get the Dark Hand and beat the shit out of Dancer so you can get stuff from Lothric Castle.

>>174238281
I see. You misunderstood then, I was just saying that "even though people think this game is bad, I like it". I don't feel sorry for it.

>>174238230
>They have nothing to make them unique
I'm not going to comb over your list to pick out the ones that have unique skills or moveset differences, but you're wrong.
I wish there were more differences among weapons too, but half of that list is absolutely fine.
You're also not taking into account stat requirements. Almost any build can use a Bastard Sword with minimum investment, for example.

>>174238235
This better than RAW ASS?

>>174238340
I was planning on beating her earlier, but the Dark Hand? Why?

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>>174238223
4u

>>174238494
>but the Dark Hand? Why?
Tons of base dark damage, which Dancer is weak to, and a fast attack speed.

>>174238494
She's weak to dark

>>174238151
>taking less than 200 damage from ledo's
So this is what it takes to make the wooden hammer "great"

>>174238494
She's weak to groping

>>174238494
Dark hand can't be upgraded so it has a very high base AR with no stat requirements. It's great damage with 0 investment at low levels, although it obviously sucks for PvP

>>174237882
>tailbone shortsword
fun WA
>parrying dagger
look at the first part of the name dumbass
>broken straight sword
memes
>cleric's candlestick
good and fun spellsword weapon
>bastard sword
STR builds
>flamberge
good weapon for bleed builds
>scimitar
good weapon for pure dex builds
>storm curved sword
same as above
>murakumo
this one too
>shotel
getting past shields
>carthus curved greatsword
good weapon for bleed builds
>greataxe
good buffable STR weapon
>demon greataxe
good STR/pyro weapon
>morningstar
kinda okay weapon for bleed builds
>gargoyle hammer
okay weapon for STR builds that need to deal fire damage at the moment because of enemies like the pus of man or ariandel tree bitches
also fun WA
>every bow
shooting arrows

>>174238176

Get Wolnir's Sword as soon as you can.

Also has anyone noticed the Splitleaf Greatsword has a four-hit stunlocking combo? Do From just not check that their weapons actually work properly? Do From not actually understand that weapons with considerable range aren't actually meant to be a guaranteed kill on most players? Do From not realise that netcode makes this worse? Do From not understand how to make video games?

>>174238151
>proud of winning against an unupgraded weapon
noice

>>174238618
>although it obviously sucks for PvP
>tfw someone got me with the health succ
>I saw it charging and I still attacked
I'll never live it down. At least he didn't point down. Probably figured I'd suffered enough embarrassment.

>invade
>murder host
>immediately get blueberry summon just a few minutes later
>it's the same host
Aaaaawkward.

>>174238568
>>174238581
Shit, never even thought about using DH as a weapon

>>174235394
I scratch my head at this comparison because not only do they not resemble one another too much but also that's the prototype of Kalameet's model and does not reflect his actual appearance.

>>174233587
>favorite
Gael
>least favorite
Bed of Chaos

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>>174237882
You don't know the fucking half of it.

How in the actual fuck are you supposed to drop Darkeater Midir off of the bridge? His AoE is crazy and he has so much HP.

>>174238837
>Zweihander
>No reason to exist

Consider suicide

>>174237882
>>any axe that isnt dragonslayer axe, millwood, or twinaxes
Thrall Axe says hello, that shit is TIGHT

>>174238880
>he has so much HP.
>on the bridge
Oh boy

>>174238710
>gets staggered on first hit
>gets staggered vs spin sweep
That one R1 and rolling attack would surely delete 1.4k hp if he "upgraded" his weapon, right?

>>174238779
Gundyr's appearance also differs in many ways from Old King Doran's, but he's still an obvious and intentional reference to him.

>>174238880
Bait his fire breath and hit his claws

>>174238880
>bait fire breath
>attack
>go back and hide
>repeat
>???
>profit

>>174238927
>worse than LKS in every way but weight and reqs
>exact same moveset as LKS
HMM I WONDER WHY
COULD IT BE
THAT YOUR WEAPONFU
A
SHIT?

>>174238850
What's the best then?

>>174239003
F O O L I S H N E S S

How are people so bad at phase one Friede? It only gets harder.

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>>174238880
Hit him in the dick

>>174239015
anon but the R2s are different

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h e h

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>>174239003
What program is used in these webms?
I want to try it too.

>>174239015
Wrong, Zweihander has a unique 2hr2 and a thrust 1hr2
It's also a 10 weight ultra that reaches 600 AR and costs the least stamina

>>174239003
would you let seath ride you cowgirl style

>>174238837
>SL120 qualityfaggotry is the only thing that matters
epic

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>>174239112
oh wow the r2s are copied from this other weapon instead from that one, that makes this weapon not shit and meaningless!

>>174238837
>he doesn't know that Cathedral Knight GS can combo and Black Knight GS combo got removed
lmaoing@urlist

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>>174239180
Maybe

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>>174239015
people have no idea how to play against it
i roll catch people with the two-handed R2 90% of the time

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>>174239168
Holy shit

>>174239193
Give me one weapon on this list that is used in low level pvp/pve that can't be replaced by one of the better ones with literally 2 extra points in STR

>>174239168
dsmodt

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>>174237841
>Gwyn created the darksign/undead curse for whatever reason

Don't listen to feastfags so much. Gwyn is a cool guy

Yuria says the undead are the true face of mankind. so that might be true undead and darksigns are the normal state of humans descended from pygmies. Perhaps regular dying humies are the anomaly.

Counter to this I saw a video from some youtuber that made the claim that darksigns are created by the way of white, put on people after their death. without consent!! darksign rape!

who knows, shit's convoluted yo.

>>174239274
He aint got no dick

>people using the Church Guardian Shiv
Tell me why, i want to know

>>174239261
You do realize
>Cathedral Knight GS combo
and
>Black Knight GS combo
Are very different things, right?
The CKGS "combo" means 2 R1R1s, which literally every UGS except maybe fume can do
The BKGS combo deserved that nerf, but it still has a much better R1-R1 simply because AR

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>>174239328
Murakumo outclasses every other curved greatsword with a sharp infusion and pure dex build
it also weighs less and requires less STR to use than harald and exile

>>174239402
Hits like a kukri and has tracking

>>174239421
CKGS can combo R1 into R2 you fucking bamboon.

>>174239381
Ain't even got a dick

>>174239421
CKGS can combo 2hr1 into 2hr2
They also fixed Yhorm's not comboing two 2hr1s

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>>174237882
>morning star, incredibly dependable strike weapon from early to mid game in every KF, will always carry you until your first unique weapon
>cucked in every game since DeS
>its a BLEED weapon now (what did miyazaki mean by this?)

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>>174239003
Seath has such pretty wings

>>174238880
you can scum it out with great arrows

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if i go to NG+ do i keep the five levels i got from yoel?

>>174239435
>less damage than a throwing knife
>hits like a kukri
u wot

>>174239003
>shooting_stars.webm

>>174239428
shit I gotta update that, the list wasn't touched since before the patch that fucked up the infusions

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>>174239467
>Dark souls 2/3 parody by Plague of Gripes never

>>174239535
Yes

>>174239226
If you think the Zweihander is shit and meaningless but don't think the same about the Astora GS, then you're a dummy.

You'd be a dummy anyway though for thinking either was shit.

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>>174234863

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>>174239421
>only 40AR behind on a optimal build with less stat investment
>lighter
>can be buffed
>has a true combo
just delet yourself from the premises faggot

>>174239767
Astora GS is the only UGS with a charge attack and an unique rolling attack, that at least makes it special
The zwei is literally a dumbed down LKGS

>>174239674
ty

>>174239769
>tfw Bradley will never let you join the Old Guard

60fth here with Crucifix.

What rings should i be using? Does mornes and suns first born ring actually make a difference? I use lightning arrow too

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>>174239428
>dex builds
Get real

>>174239819
>OPTIMAL
>BUILD
You do realize the BKGS is a quality weapon?

>>174238724
You sorry fool! It's more of a sarcastic applause moment anyway...

How should I build around the Dragonslayer Spear? I'd like to have a few miracles to cast as well.

>>174239586
The DS1 parody wasn't that great, not gonna lose sleep over it.

>>174239904
Fucking Knight's
It's not a pure faith weapon, it's STR/FAI
I bet you don't even have 27 STR

>>174239919
Yes that's why I included two pictures. Stats on the top are 60/10 for CKGS and the bottom is 40/40 for BKGS, which is clearly visible by the way. Sorry about your blindness man.

What are the best paired weapons for PVP that aren't necessarily those babby mode UGS from the dlc?

>>174239949
It's a quality weapon that got recently nerfed. If you want a faith spear you can use saint's bident.

what's the best level for DOG INVASIONS

>>174240035
>>174239819
>60STR
Nope, Fume is already the best in that category in every way that actually matters.

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>>174239904
just as a reference

>>174240125
Still bretty gud in Pve at least, in pvp it's basically useless and there's way, way better.

Why no one parry in PVP right now? I don't remember parry/caestus nerfs

>>174240203
because the meta is ultra weapon wombo combos

>>174240203
Parrying is phasing out of style, now it's all about 〖Auto Combos〗

>>174240203
You can't parry lmao2pugs

>>174240203
caestus got nerfed and is now the same as small shields, also if you fail a parry it counts as a counter damage hit

>>174240150
On the meme 66/16 it gets 32 AR more than CKGS while being a lot heavier, lacking the combo and barely more range. FUGS is dead my friend.

Haven't played since 3 or 4 weeks ago
I read they nerfed 2ugs? How shit is it now?

>>174233587
Favorite: Champion gundyr
Least favorite: Darkeater Midir
Fuck that spastic sword-sponge discount kalameet

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Hey. Would anyone on ps4 mind helping me transfer some souls between characters really quick? I can return the favor too just tell me what you need.

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>>174240202
>>174240125

Care to share? I'm only using it for fashion souls, but it does feel rather weak. Saints Bident is good? I never really heard anything about it before.

Why do people like the first DaS, again? It's such steaming dogshit.

>>174240514
because you're wrong

>>174240502
Disable phantom range, then I'll help

>>174233587
So many good ones but my fav is probably Artorias.

Least is a tie between BoC and Ancient Wyvern.

>>174240432
???

>>174240514
it's not the third one

>>174240042
Honestly they aren't that good in pvp on account of all the hyper armor everywhere.
If you can actually get matches against people using ordinary non-fuckhueg weapons, winged knight twinaxes are quite good.
They have massive forward momentum on their L1s now, better than a mace.

Sellsword twinblades with a buff will generally oneshot phantoms with its R1 L2 R2 combo.
Drang twin hammers can oneshot phantoms with the same WITHOUT a buff. It also had an infinite L2 L2 L2 L2 combo, but I don't know if that got patched with the mon scim.
Drang twin spears are a one-trick pony. They roll L1 good. That's basically it. Never start with the first L1, it has awful range. Also, expect people to parry fish the fuck out of you.
Gotthard twinswords are now only good for the obscene range of the R1, they're the longest straight swords. The spinny combos do surprisingly poor damage.
Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords, well, I dont think you need a description. You just delay your third L1 a tiny bit, and the 3 L1 shit oneshots people. It's bad at trading against heavy ultras. Weak poise. Better in chaotic invasions than in 1v1s.

With all of these, you should offhand an Old Wolf Curved Sword and use Pontiff Eye rings. They stack.
You'll be healing yourself every time you get your combo off. The last patch made it so that the first effect activates with only two hits. It's insane.

>>174236661
This, except the opinions are also shit.
>>174233739
No, I didn't like it because it's slow and clunky.

>>174240548
I wish I could do that. ;_;

haven't been here in a while. how many people thought the dlc was a underwhelming? why is there literally nothing but one ringed knight between halflight and gael? where is the good dlc that was in dark souls 1, 2 and bloodborne?
if that's how they decided to end the series, then fuck fromsoft and bandai namco for shitting over this game even more

>>174240504
At min str/dex and 60fth Saint Bident gets 500+ AR when infused with lightning. You can also infuse it with heavy to get like 350AR and buff it with lightning blade/darkmoon blade (+235 lightning/magic damage when casted using yorshka's chime) to get better results. It is also one of the longest spears in the game, only behind Gargoyle Flame Spear.

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>>174240903
all you need

>>174240921
Wow ok, knew about the length but I wasn't aware of the AR. Looked pretty abysmal on the wiki. Thanks.

>>174240172
Man the phantom range on the DUGS/RKPGS is disgusting just about any time or place I see them.

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>>174240664
Alright, thanks mate.

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>lightning arrow
>tears of denial
>projected heal

>>174240603
>>174240514
All soulsborne games are trash.
I say this because I am the true fan, not like you impostors.

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>>174240502
Please? We can coop later too.

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How do i make this more fashiony?

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>Gael will never help you decorate the Christmas tree
why live

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>tfw faster pace of ds3 renders my favourite ds1 weapon (scythe aka glaive) poop and gotta bum it out with longsword spam

>>174241008
It was buffed a lot in recent patches, it's a really good spear now. I guess wikis didn't get updated that much yet.

>>174241068
>soulsborne
Is this bait?

>>174236280
>tfw only play at 79 or 140
feels good man

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>tfw you save all the hollows at the beginning of Undead Settlement from the meanie dogs
I am a hero

>>174237264
A
if you cheated or summoned on your first playthrough for anything other than coop bosses (o&s/lmao2cat) you should leave

>>174241004
fucking hell i laughed way more than i should have

>>174241301
>other than

yeah someone should leave alright

Why wasn't the Champion Gravetender the PvP boss?

>>174241089
Highwall, pass is dsg

>>174241348
Can you wait 15 minutes please? I just made dinner.

>>174240124
Winged Knight Twinaxes are really good after TRC patch. You can easily hit people for at least 900 damage with two L1.

>>174241232
then you rested at the bonfire and they all died anyway

dumb frogposter

>>174241348
>>174241384
Get a job Neets

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r8 my fashion