Paragon General

Phew, I'm glad someone made it, but post the links next time:
News & Patch Notes: https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news

Hero Related Info:
Latest Hero - Morigesh
https://youtu.be/XUp6MdosW58 [Embed]
https://youtu.be/kDGpxp4MG1M [Embed]
Leaks -
https://soundcloud.com/mehteh-trollfacer/tracks
https://soundcloud.com/omedamusic
http://imgur.com/a/fdnFM
http://imgur.com/a/5t1Am

MMR Tracking (community) and Other Information:
https://agora.gg/
https://fury.gg/
https://paragon.gg/

More Hero Build Info:
https://paragondb.info/calc
http://paragon.wikia.com/wiki/Paragon_Wiki

User IDs: pastebin.com/tMqksTK4

is this game dead

>>174188337
ty anon

>>174188990
no but it's gone full JUST recently imo

>>174189101
how did it go full JUST?

>>174190318
the game in it's current meta is to team fight over the raptors until you can win orb prime and then pretty much auto win from there. Laning is not really a thing for more than 5 min anymore, if the other team groups up and you don't you get deathballed.

You can even be winning by a large margin and then two people on your team die and the enemy team takes orb prime then takes your T1 mid lane all the way to core to win.

>>174188990
Nah, only the general. The game is pretty alive, but needs some serious rebalancing

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>why this thread died

>>174196369
Because Amerifats are too lazy to keep it bumped
And because Ebin can't balance their game so people don't want to play it

Bump before bed. And to hopefully start some conversation, what do you actually think about Legacy? Do you miss it? Do you think it was better or nah? What about specific mechanics such as harvesters or dunking?

>>174198468
I played when it was closed beta and thought that the game was pretty fun but also frustrating at times when you had near two hour matches.

I stopped playing and started again once monolith came and thought it was pretty fun, but now I'm looking back and feeling like they are gutting/dumbing down a lot of what made the game interesting in the first place.

Also legacy's map had a sense of wonder, monoliths map feels so fucking small.

>>174202189
>Holy shit that Steel was terrible

>>174202189
Can we get that void bomb range back? Thx

>>174210056
>He wants the void bomb to cover most of the lane's width

no

>>174202189
Does Steel do a flip before landing his ult

Good to see the general is back

wow glad to see another thread up, would work the night shift bumping but I have school tomorrow so I hope to see this thread still alive tomorrow

also when is Revenant reveal? I know it's sometime this week but I always forget the dates

I waited so long for the gen to come back. When it never popped up I thought it was over forreal this time. I'll be sure to post it next time if this happens.

bumping before bed

>>174201595
Yeah, monolith's pace and overall gameplay is better, but the map is nowhere near the atmosphere of agora. And ebin scrapping good mechanics that made the game unique just because or because they're too lazy to balance them pisses me off.

>>174216609
I lost the track of time as well, if the reveal is supposed to be this week, then they usually release teasing pictures and short webms on Tuesday and Wednesday and reveal full info on Thursday

>>174187903
Is it just me or does the "show ping and fps" option do nothing?

Bumping just so this thread wont die. Shame, that this dead general is much deader than the game. Also, nuke PS4 Fags

>>174236778
when a hero reveal is so soon to. damn

>>174236778
>>174237674
Worst thing is, we actually reached a point when it was fairly alive and then it went on suicide watch again

Can we get the travel mode animations without the shitty travel mode ? It bugs me that some heroes seem stiff running after the transition from Legacy. I always though those animations were nice, but the existence of travel mode was crap.

>>174238963
This, I want hovering Gideon back. Also, what was so wrong with travel mode really, except that it allowed to roam the map to quickly(which could be easily balanced by changing movement speed)? I really don't get what was everyone's problem with it.

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/v-39-2-release-notes

>>174239327
Well while it had it's perks there was nothing worse than a Grux or Khaimera jumping on your ass in a midlane with travel mode. No amount of wards would help against that. The problem with Travel mode in Paragon comes from the fact, that it's third person. The mount (travel mode) works in HoTS because you see them from different point of view (top down) and can react accordingly, not so much when you have verticality added.

Also, give gliding Gideon back.

>>174241756
Couldn't they implement some sprinting mechanic without any delay which, I don't know, drains your mana when used? I mean the current map is too small for that, but it could have worked back on Legacy.

>>174239327
>>174241756
It certainly had its issues, but I think they should've reworked it instead of scraping the animations altogether. Hell, they can still bring them in wihout any change in movement speed.
God. When I reminisce about the glory days I hate this instawin meta more and more.

>>174242478
they definitely could have reworked it but you know how ebin works. why fix it when you can just remove it entirely?

Bumperino
Any guesses on Revenant's abilities? I hope he gets something interesting

>>174253368
he's going to have a flashbang and a roll

the difference here is his roll will send him into the shadowplane for eight seconds

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>>174253823
Considering the obscene CC Yin had on release I wouldn't be surprised.

>>174258080
why the fuck does Yin have CC period. does every hero in the game need CC?

>>174261246
The thing is, cc abilities are so meta defining right now that every hero without any(or at least without a way to counter them) will almost certainly be trash. Therefore we entered a vicious cycle in which an oversaturation of cc abilities creates the need for even more cc abilities.

>>174261567
my how awful. epic created something nice and now they're destroying it before our very eyes

>>174263367
Tell me about it. The game has potential, but Epic clearly has little idea what they should do to achieve it

It's only game why you heff to be mad

>>174268525
because I wanted to play a moba not overwatch in third person

I can imagine them releasing travel mode animations as a mastery reward, that would be pretty cool.

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At fucking last. Feels good

ded general

>>174278786
Just like your mother if you won't reply to this post
True though

>>174274218
i hate you

>>174283620
Thanks anon. Also bedtime bump

Shinbi needs a tier 3 skin.

>thundercleaver never

kill me

how bad do you think the queues will be when Revenant is released?

>>174300596
the first male and ranged carry since who the fuck knows. it'll probably be worse than it's ever been

>>174300596
Its going to be fucking cancer mate

Why does the endgame screen take a minute to complete, does epin even try to test things?

>>174304240
You can skip it. on ps4 you press r2 a couple times, on pc i guess you can click the last tab on the top of the screen

Anybody in a team or something? I'm interested in joining one, if not, we should probably make a team, that'd be cool.
We'd only need 5 decent people to participate in tournaments.

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>solo queue
>Dekker disconnects after a loss, their Rampage disconnects after a loss
>tied on each side, execpt for the fact that they keep stealing raptors so they're a bit ahead in CP
>their Muriel is great support while our adc is feeding Greystone
>go b to get stuff
>notice TB doing the OP
>"Group Up!"
>prime at 25%
>too anxious to do a tricky OP steal so I just focus TB
>all 8 people are here all of a sudden
>switch from TB to OP
>Gadget gets the fucking steal
>they scram
>pick them off, Muriel was the last to get away but get a tether off and reward my Gadget by handing her the kill
>straight mid, kill core and win
It was fun, the map feels a lot more spacier with only 4 people on each team. I thought we'd lose since they kept securing raptors and our Sparrow was shit but we pulled through.

>>174308328
the Epic website has a forum for recruiting teams

>>174312564
>recruiting from the epic forums
lol
that might work if you're looking for bronzes

>>174312564
>Epic forums

>>174312664
>>174312812
is there a better place to look for teammates

>>174313167
official Paragon Discord

>>174313521
I haven't used discord. I'll check it out

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>>174187903
This game is doomed to fail because its main forums is literally just a reskinned Reddit. Futhermore, devs delete any posts that point out major flaws in their games by preventing people from creating threads instantly and only allowing pre-approved threads to be posted to the public.

Holy shit, its like Friday the 13th all over again, WAK THE FUCK UP PEOPLE!

>>174317667
You're a fucking idiot
There's plenty of threads that just complain in the forums
Reddit complains a fuck ton too, just not as much as forum babies.


Bronze & Silver Tier
>Forum babies
>New players
Gold Tier
>Reddit
Platinum Tier
>Anything Else
Diamond Tier
>>>/parag/

>>174304240
This reminds me, why the hell did they remove this short victory celebration scene at the end of the match? It was a nice thing to have

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>yfw you end up in a team ignoring raptors and pushing lanes instead of getting orb prime

>>174308328
I would gladly form or join a team of silvers with ambition to git gud. Almost gold though.

>>174301041
>>174303253
I'm just imagining teams full of 4 ADCs and a Khaimera

>>174326914
>2 ADCs
>Khaimera
>Shitty Morigesh
>And you
Yeah, I can totally see that. We should team up for after the patch to avoid cancers.

>>174327952
also high chance of Revenant being op?

>>174328142
Immediately after release almost certainly, if previous heroes releases are anything to go by. Releasing new characters as overpowered to get people interest in them and then nerfing them seems to be a standard Epic procedure by now

When the fuck are they going to take yin's kneecaps off with a lead pipe? She's the best adc by far in the game, her kit is broken

>>174331425
nah ur just bade m8

>>174321959
Count me in. I'm crappy silver league but not a shitter

Any of you cunts on OCE or just me? I've been working nights lately and can't play with my IRL friends.

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>Pick wrong deck, only has 1 mana potion
>Still manage to win

Thank God Yin was able to solo OP.

>>174340098
Your team had one useless person. Theirs had two

>>174340098
Actually three, their Gideon did worse than you

>>174340098
>Only has 1 mana potion
Top kek, post link to the replay

>>174339965
Enjoy waiting 30min to play a match

>>174341871
Matchmaking has been pretty good lately desu. Worst thing about the server is that there Paragon OCE discord and heaps of fags stack and it's annoying as fuck.

>>174340098
>Still go 27-8

Talk about being carried

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Not a fucking human at last

>>174343417
Maybe he just has a demon arm

>>174344081
Nah, they shown his face before, he's some kind of dark spectre. I would like to see some aliens, but every more original design such as this is fine for me

>>174343417
*tips fedora*

>>174288895
one with her wearing assless chaps

>>174340098
why did you even have a deck with just a mana potion

>>174347059
Maybe he was making one in queue

>>174346381
shinbi's ass gives me a feelin so complicate

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Gadget is bae

>>174356818
She prefers vibrators to meatbags anon

>>174357198
TwinBlast has a mechanical vibrating cock?

>>174357356
Maybe. At least some "performance boosting" augmentations are quite possible.

Also where does everyone shipping him with Gadget comes from?

>>174358151
K.L said they used to date in one of the hero reveal streams

>>174356818
they actually added this skin? it's so nice.

>>174341173
fda6d8a73c2c455abaf83ca6eb10262d

>>174347059
I haven't played Gideon since Legacy, and I was trying to build a deck for him but gave up pretty much immediately. But I forgot, this hence the crappy deck.

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>it's a your team had less people standing in prime pit at the 20 minute mark so you lose episode
>it's a rerun

Shit that gadget skin is pretty nice, I wonder If I can slap my Belica build on her, since they got same affinities and fill sort of same role.

>>174362625
Tier 2 or higher Bellica skin when?

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>>174363814
Dunno but I'd like to see some Belica Skins too, right now I am hunting for Gun Metal Belica. Also, this is the build. I tried the Hydroverser with Infinity stream but meh, the damage diminishes too fast also, I have a variation with Purity Censer in case the enemy team is extremely CC heavy but most of it can actually be solved with proper positioning desu. So I wonder, If I could use it on the Gadget, also, deck comments will be appreciated.

>>174364057
Well as for Bellica her yellow biohazard skin satisfies me for now since it looks nice and yellow is my favourite colour(seriously we need more yellow skins), but I would like to see something with more punch for her

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>>174364057
Also, So far, this are Belica games with this build. The losses were either due to utter retards or because people couldn't group for shit for late game objectives.

>>174364253
We need more T2 and T3 skins

Is the new hero going to be Fury and Corruption?

>>174366147
Judging based entirely on his appearance, that might be it

>>174334851
>Non ultimate ability that can deflect ranged projectiles
>Ultimate nulls out ranged attacks
>Has mobility and can whip through minions
>3 shots squishies post 15 minutes

Yeah, seems balanced to me.

>>174367802
Ah yes, the classic "list all of their abilities then restate that they are overpowered" argument
as old as MOBAs themselves

>>174366147
Most probably yeah, can't see him with anything other than that. Perhaps maybe growth, since Sevarog also has it.

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>play with epic employee
>everyone starts roleplaying as perfect angel model players
>epic guy picks support fey
>epic guy feeds nonstop
>epic guy's deck consists of random shit with no rhyme or reason to it
>everyone trying their hardest to pretend they aren't mad
and this is who is in charge of balancing the game
it all makes sense now

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>two back to back solo queue games where I make the enemy surrender before the twenty minute mark
and people complain Khaimera isn't good

>>174369905
>where I make the enemy surrender before the twenty minute mark
Here is the thing, Khaimera is strong early to mid game, but late game when everyone is going around in groups he becomes even more kamikaze tier than Gideon.

>>174369639
I don't know if this is more sad or hilarious. Would be even better if he spammed "good job" every time he died

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>Murdock can shove away Morigesh ult and survive it

WHAT

>Portal stone is still in the game.

Woah, I forgot all about that card. If it was easier to use and not so inaccurate I might use it.

Anyway, OP is so strong right now that the entire match, as soon as OP spawns, there is a deep tension in the air wondering when the enemy carry will sneak in and try to solo it. I keep it warded everytime I have a ward up and am not dead, but it's not enough. Even with a ward up, if the enemy team swarms it and even 1 of your team are dead, your team will just funnel in and die before they turn around and finish it and win.

What would you do to fix OP?
I would remove the regen you get from it and also make lifesteal 1/4 as effective on OP to discourage someone soloing it while your teams are fighting.

I'm new to the game. Who's the lifesteal jungler hero? I'm literally about to start my 3rd match ever.

>>174375515
BASED

can't keep a brotha down, Murdock will ALWAYS be best ranger no matter how they nerf him

shaking down jive turkeys all across the universe, space cop is the best

>>174377737
Kwang, Grux can be built with LS, Khaimera gets a stack of regen on every basic attack so it's effectively similar

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So, let's keep this general bumped with something other than dead man's "bump so it won't die overnight" Everyone show their mains, either just portraits mashed together or like me. Others rate the mains.

I'll Start
1. My bae Lt. Belica
2. My Homeboy Crunch
3. Le Space Cop

>If you want pictures like me, write just the "Lt. Belica png" for example into google and you'll get one.

>>174380067
not going to make a picture but
>Greystone
>Kwang
That's all
I've been using Greystone since he was released and I've always wanted to get good at Kwang but could never land his tethers until recently something just clicked for me and I started doing great with him, landing tethers 80% of the time.
I would've put Grux on this list but I don't like the spot he's in right now, I used to jungle him all the time in Legacy but not anymore.

>>174380394
I wanted to try Kwang as well but he still does not click with me, as I am obv a "technophile" but I see you like to play annoying cunts :^) each game you are making someones life miserable.

>>174380067
1: space cop
2: bees
3: space Lt.

>>174379650
This card system is kinda hard to jump into, I'm getting fucked up by bots. Spoonfeed pls

>>174380067
Belica
Kwang
Rampage
Dekker
Twin Blast

That's who I use in each role in order of preference. I'm getting sick of playing support lately.

>>174369639
You do realize you're also part of the problem if you didn't call him out on it? So why are you greentexting? You're just as big a bitch lmao

>>174388484
It's not my job to teach epic how to play their game

REMOVE DEATHTOUCH
>REMOVE REGEN
REMOVE DEATHTOUCH
>REMOVE REGEN
REMOVE DEATHTOUCH
>REMOVE REGEN
REMOVE DEATHTOUCH
>REMOVE REGEN
REMOVE DEATHTOUCH
>REMOVE REGEN

So I've got a hankering to try out Shinbi for the first time. Anyone got some good deck recipes? I was thinking attack speed and damage, may be a little ability pen. Any tips are welcome.

>>174394783
Don't need attack speed, build her similar to Countess.

>>174394783
>attack speed
for what purpose

>>174395317
To attack faster.
>>174394783
So 7 shadow scrolls then?

>>174394783
>>174395317
>>174395713
>shinbi

>>174394262
REMOVE EPIC

>>174383045
try khaimera.

now I'm going to bed. I hope this gen makes it through the night. goodnight, parag

>>174402317
I as well

>>174402317
I'll bump this thread also, as I am leaving for work.

>>174383045
Turn off autoequipping and pick whatever you need yourself.
Always buy a main card first, then all the upgrades to it(accessed by clicking on bought card), then another card.
Don't bother with creating your own decks until you have more cards.
If you have any more specific questions, shoot

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I just played a game where the enemy team got four (4) primes to our zero (0) and we still won the game because they couldn't push with prime buff
like how do you fail to end a game with even one prime let alone four of them

>>174416737
Fuck me, is it even possible? How retarded can they be?

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>>174380067
1. bae all the wae
2. Morigesh
3. Kwang
4. Sparrow

loot
c
ra
tes xD

>>174426148
it feels like epic reduced the drops in diamond chests and loot crate's. feels like I only get reputation now. little infuriating to say the least.

Who is the intended audience of the "Paragon TV" feature? I've never seen the viewer counts go above single digits.

Still waiting on ranked...

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>>174434116

so is epic going to add fifteen ranged heroes in a row now

>>174436246
yep. fifteen male/trap heroes

>>174434116
it's like we already have ranked with how autistic people get over agora ratings!

>>174434116
They said it's one of their goals to get it out at the end of the year

>there are still people who unironically take Belicia to midlane

>>174438435
are you a jungle belica advocate or something

>>174438509
Support.

Every mid belicia I see feeds like a bitch because she has no escape and they're too stupid to equip something that will.

>>174438848
a couple months ago I would have agreed but belica support post-nerf is retarded
you're literally just playing dekker: bad edition

>>174438435
>>174438848
You fucking moron she is legit one of the best picks for mid to late game. You are playing with idiots who get caught out and have no wards, that's not an issue with the character itself.

>>174438848
>there are people who unironically take Sparrow to safelane
>every Sparrow I see feeds like a bitch because she has no escape and they're too stupid to equip something that will.
>my anecdotal evidence while in silver is omnipotent and factual
u see how that works bud

>>174440275
that doesn't hold up if the sparrow has a support with them

>>174441124
>that doesn't hold up
yeah that's kinda the point

>>174439801
>only close range kit
>doesn't combo well with dekker

>>174442067
>dekker stun
>belica knockup
unless your team is retarded, the target is now dead
there's your combo

I'll chip a nigga then throw the blower in his lap

>>174448483
same desu

>>174380067
Huh, it seems like my tastes in heroes seems to differ a lot from the rest of this generals.

My picks:
1. My homie Feng Mao
2. Sevarog
3. Kwang
4. Serath

>>174438435
>le jjungle belica xD

Your favorite hero is shit and anyone who plays him/her should kill him/herself.

All these mid lane morigesh players tonight.

Do they enjoy being raped by junglers?

>>174462372
Nah they enjoy poking the other midlaner out of lane making them back every 20 seconds and auto winning lane because they have wards.

>>174438848
Fuck playing support Belica, you're just gonna starve yourself of card power. If you play mid and get farm you can 1v1 any caster in the game after dropping her skill rotation.

>>174416737
What's that green stuff supposed to be

DAMN BABY PARAG IS BLEEDING OUT
ALERT ALERT
PARAG IS BLEEDING OUT

>>174479878
Naw

So is the new hero confirmed a compulsive masturbator ? Look at his right hand

>>174460478
Damn son chill

is this game any good or is it like smite?

>>174492797
Yes

>get BobbyBoJanglles on your team
>lose
why is this guy allowed

>>174498352
Bobby is the GOAT m8

>>174499124
All he does is lose
he has a 42% winrate on his most played hero
greatest feeder maybe

THIS is the reason epic isn't finishing UT4? HAHAHAHA FUCK THEM

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>>174187903
HAPPENING

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>>174319758
>playing on smurf
>finally get a match
>somebody on the team doesn't know how to buy cards

why does the game keep randomly putting itself into windowed mode now

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>>174505416

>>174508804
retard

REVENANT TRAILER IS OUT BOYS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzSpb2TnQ8k

>>174517432
Can't wait for my rev to pull the enemy carry into the shadow realm and then lose the fight

>>174517639
Just take the support

>>174517987
no honor in that

>>174518675
>playing honourably in this game
That's a good way to get killed

>>174517432
I'm just glad they've finally found balls to make a reloading mechanic on someone. I really crave guns which actually feel like guns in paragon

>>174517639
Some guy here actually predicted this exact ult a few months ago. How interesting.

>>174519404
He didn't predict it, it was leaked information

>>174517639
>pull enemy adc into shadow realm
>forgot to reload

>>174519592
Nah he predicted it when someone suggested a duelling related ability when we theorised about his abilities. And it's not like it's something unique, Dota has ults like that as well.

>>174519675
it's actually going to be humourous to see how many revenant players use this ult and end up getting fucking murdered in the shadow realm. I can imagine it being a pretty infuriating ult for anyone caught in it by a good player.

>Have Necroveil on Revenant
>Kill someone in the shadow realm
>Come back invisible
>Keep killing people and never lose invis
Shit is gonna be wild.

>put against imsko, thatonelejund, and cmstarke with a guy who only plays kallari and has a 40% winrate with her
well that was fun
at least it was only -1 elo i guess

>>174520797
>kallari
Should just dodge that shit straight away

Quick /parg/ revanant has asked you to meet him at the shadow realm who do you bring?

Countess
>implying I didn't shadow slip before he brought me in.
It's looking lonely in the shadows right now.

>middle of teamfight
>no one is bothered to try killing you because you're elusive as fuck

who am I?

>>174522832
countess I guess? Or kallari, but that's more because you do just as much alive as you would dead

Does Shadow realm pull has any kind of range or time limit? Can you just run away and make him chase you through the map unable to return to teamfight?

>>174519747
Some dude predicted the use of ghost too. Seems like he will be fun to play with. Hopefully he will not fall into "easy" category and take some skill to play

>>174520979
>I pick Kallari
>teammates freak out in draft
>5 minutes in, I'm 2-0-1 while the people that were complaining are feeding like crazy
Yup.

>>174527608
Of course it will, it makes no sense to make it last forever

>>174521343
Yin, that bitch is still unstoppable in the right hands

>>174521343
>Bring Kallari
>Turn insivibro

Me laff at u

>>174520752
>Get purple buff
>Make your support disappear
>Kill that bastard
>Stay invisible for 6s afterwards

2good4me

>>174529194
the fact that he has to reload alone will probably make him the most difficult ranged carry to use

Why can't I into Riktor? Damage and ability pen, right?

>>174530945
Riktor is not a full dps hero.

build tanky + teamshield + team heal.

Be a nuisance and yank niggers off of towers and to peel.

Who's ready for draft dodges the likes of which we have never seen?

Who's ready for offlane Rev forcing the carry to duel without their support?

But most of all, who's ready to spank the fuck out of the enemy Rev each and everytime he transports you to his realm? I feel like it's gonna be truly demoralizing to lose a duel in your own turf as Rev.

anybody else here socially awkward? I want other people to play with besides my usual group sometimes but it's tough like this.

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>Post yfw Rev pulls you into nether realm and you just kite him around until his ult wears off and your team has assembled outside, ready to pump his intestines full of semen.

>>174531209
So it's more "death by 1000 whips w/friends" instead of "robot chain tentacle rape"?

>Be Rev
>Face enemy Rev
>He pulls me into nether realm
>I then pull HIM into nether realm
>Repe

>Rev pulls Aurora into nether realm
>Literally can't catch her
>Ult timer wears off and goes on cooldown

>>174532380
You can build him that way but your team will think you're an idiot.

Especially with Mori running around now, your carry will want someone nearby who can heal/shield them to deny her ult.

>Rev almost dead
>He transports someone to nether realm just as Morigesh ults him

Will he live?

>Shit player uses Rev ult
>Now he has to fight a better player without the help of his 2 sec rampage support, shields, team heal, etc.

I hope it separates the men from the boys. I wonder how many people will simply not use his ult for fear of losing the duel or will only use it on an enemy who is essentially dead anyway.

>team has grux, belicia and steel
>grux: "no cc..."

something around 90% of grux players must be legally retarded

Anyone else feel like Grux is sub par right now? I remember fearing him on Legacy, but now I don't really care if he's there unless his team is around.

What's a good way to build him anyway? I used merciless and cup of the vampire with crit but is there anything better?

>>174533489
he's ok you just need to not be shit and do stupid things like attempting to gank gideon

>>174532545
I tried it recently and got my clock cleaned. I'll try out a support tank deck now. Thanks for the tip.

Would you accept the original, slow but extremely long Grux pull or do you prefer the new one?

The new one, to me, just feels like something you may as well do for a bit of extra damage rather than a way to yank back in a fleeing enemy.

I miss long pulling people into Grux hell, but with movement speed as quick as it is now, it would probably be too easy to juke

>2 more games until plat
the dream is almost achieved

>>174533489
>>174533915
Yeah, he is. I used to play the bastard in Legacy and he was my favorite hero but his pull became so underwhelming and unsatisfying to land now. I used to build him all damage/critical but that only gets you past the early/mid game and then you become fucking useless. His late game is just weak as fuck.

is there any way to let the audio keep playing while tabbed out of the game?

is anyone even playing this (EU)? i've been in the co-op queue for 10 minutes before i gave up. then i tried starting a solo game and was put back in a queue. fuck that, can't i play locally?

am i missing something here?

Servers just shat themselves, probably nothing on your end.

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>>174538029
oh, ok. thank you.
i hope they get them working again soon, i really wanted to try this game today.

>>174540965
4/20 is such a sad day

I am so tired of shit ADCs.

I always get the ones who think they can walk into melee range of the enemy team and I (support) will magically prevent them from dying.

>>174537379
I don't know man, I play in EU and never have issues with queuing times on pvp

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FINALLY HIT PLATINUM BABY!

>>174547262
congrats. what will you do now?

>>174547321
play more I guess

>>174547384
please carry me out of silver

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>>174547262

Me too, senpai! All it took was playing Carry and Support most of the time.

>>174533275
You are the retarded one, he wants NO CC in his ideal team scrub

i'm not enjoying this game at all.

>>174548469
why

>>174540965
Now I understand why Fey players always suck ass

>>174548069
Congrats! Too bad I lost mine my next game because I had a dc, hope you don't get my luck though

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>>174548495
game was too long and the map is too big. i spent 1/3 of my time running from the base to the frontline and 1/3 running to allies in other lanes. i also hit more creeps than enemy heroes. i was playing against AI, maybe real players are more agressive so more fights can happen?

once the actual team fights start it's kind of alright. but sadly this doesn't happen that often. though i only played one game, i'm sure other people are enjoying this.

i played a ton of dota and it seems like there's more to do in that game. you have to block creeps in lane and block camps. you have to make the right item choices. supports can do without hitting creeps and have to manage their gold. you have to time your attacks so you get the lasthits and not to push the lane.
in paragon it's all about pushing, not lane control. at least it seems that way. you can't teleport to your towers (or am i mistaken?), so you spend a lot of time running around outside of combat. i didn't understand the shop system, it was set to automatic.

the menu is confusing, there's so much shit to unlock. i also didn't like that you have to unlock the heroes instead of having them available from the start, but i guess that's to ease in new players.

i wish there were more and longer fights and less walking around.

the game does look pretty, though. i really like the unreal engine. but i'd rather play UT4 than this. it's faster paced and has more action.

>>174549487
>>174548495
however i don't know if the comparison to dota is fair, dota is probably the most complex moba out there. comparing it to smite would probably be better, but i never played smite.

i'm still going to give this game a chance, it could be that my hero was just dull, not the game (i played greystone or whatever he's called. the one that revives upon death)

>>174548069
>>174547262
Welcome to the true ELO hell.

>>174549683
that nigga greystone is strong but he just might be the most boring hero in the entire cast. that man has two abilities: jump and AOE spin attack. there's like no gameplay with him besides noodling people to death with your short ass sword and dying on purpose in team fights.

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>>174532310
>post yfw Revenant gets a ridiculous buff in the show realm and you don't

>>174549683
I played both Dota and recently started with Smite and yeah, even though they're both mobas, it's not really a good idea to compare Paragon to Dota. When it comes to Smite, it does feel very satisfying, I really like the vertical aspect of Paragon and the fact that it feels much more "clean" than other mobas. In other ones it's often kind of a clusterfuck of spells and special effects and you often don't really know what even hit you. In Paragon I always know what's going on.

>>174553212
* it does feel very satisfying, BUT I really like the vertical aspect of Paragon

How do I not die too much /parag/? I know where I should be, I have no trouble with pushing objectives and getting kills, but I always have more deaths than I should have and more then the rest of the team. What's the secret?

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Who the FUCK is ready to hunt motherfuckers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzSpb2TnQ8k

>>174562172
>i ship the day Revenant is released
JUST

>>174566451
this will never get old and cannot be more accurate

>>174198468

Legacy had actual graphics. Monolith is a better map, but the recent update made it less vertical and made the graphics even more sub-actual.

With 400 hours played and nothing to grind for (I even have like 100k unspent coins), I'm waiting for Epic to actualize Monolith and implement fucking voice chat already so this game is playable for me again.

>>174556998
Ward

blink charm

watch the fucking map

what hero?

>>174564002
ship? military?

The worst players are drawn to ADCs like flies to shit.

Time for a hiatus.

>>174573621
>ADC gets sucked into Revenant duel
>dies
>blames support

>>174573621
Sad but true

>>174549487
I forgot you had to unlock them. If you play a couple of games you should be able to have the entire roster quick. I can play with you if you'd my dude. I find the card system to be ok, once you get the hang of it deck building gets fun in its own right.

Once you play pvp fights are much more recurring and you gets lots of teamfights.

>>174549683
>>174551428
I agree, Greystone is probable one of the most boring heroes. I would recommend playing ADC and if you'd rather go offlane you can play as Morigesh or Kwang when you unlock him.

I felt like you when starting back at Legacy, then the game grew on me and now I play everyday.

I check this Gen a lot so if you have any doubts just post 'em

>>174579779
Hero unlock is through the dailies now, isn't it? Not sure how long it takes to get everyone.

Havn't played in a while (since shinbi came out), hows witchbitch? She looks cool. Also is there really any reason to play Gideon over Gadget? Slamming people with massive damage space boulders is cooler than a bomb with a helicopter but she seems so much safer and just as effective.

>>174584403
Morigesh is my slutfu but she's op, broken upon release, just as bad or maybe worse than Aurora release. She's only received a minor nerf across the board which really doesn't do all that much but you'll have fags complain about how she isn't op because you should be building a deck just to counter her.
Gideon/Gadget are both great though.

Giving this game a shot, does it have any lolis?

>>174532417
Wait what the fuck happens here

>>174588159
it has a kpop star

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>>174549487
wow you think this game DOESNT have enough team fights? bro play against humans sometime.

this game is 100% a complete bar fight team death match battle royals with some towers thrown in to give you something to do between fights

>>174589050
>kpop star
Not a big fan of that kinda thing.

>>174589445
It has a forest fairy if you're into twinks

>>174187903

So, is this game dead or what? Should I bother getting into it or is this going to be another abandoned pile of garbage in 12 months?

>>174590689
All the chicks in this game are hideous. Wish there was a paper bag option for all of them.

>>174591401
its as active as a b-list moba will get and it wont die soon but it isnt worth getting into

>>174591667
MOBAs in general aren't worth it.

>>174194039
This sounds like a really shitty meta.

>>174594743
Yeah well they're aware that they fucked up and nobody likes it. With any luck a change is coming soon.

And not every team fights over raptors from the moment they spawn.

>>174595045
Any tips for a newbie? I already know to call my teammates retards when I myself am not sure what to do.

>>174595045
Where have they said that they know they fucked up

>>174596316
You're off to a great start. most use the good job chat command for toxicity but I'm finding great returns from the Thanks! method

>>174599939
How do they work with banning in this game? I know I got muted at least 3 - 4 times in HoTs and suspended 3 times in Smite for abusive language.

>>174601114
Nothing will happen most of the time. They probably don't have people on the payroll to police the language used in game chat.

Unless you tell a well known streamer or dev to kill themselves. That'll probably do it.

>>174601242
Good to hear, I can be as abusive as I want.

Why do Iggy turrets give 60 cxp?

>>174604923
To encourage people to take them out. Similar to Belica's drone.

>new T3 skin for Sparrow
aww yiss

>new T3 skin for Kallari
waste of resources

I'm going to buy the kallari skin and play her every game

Missed opportunity to give sparrow a crossbow.

Guess that would be too much work.

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Dead bread post sluts

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>>174620138
Boi-oi-oi-oing

what's the lore behind the rogue skins

>>174620943
I'd fuck her and taunt her with her low win/pick rate.

>>174620987
In Agora, it's illegal to be gay so Kallari and Sparrow have keep their lesbianism a secret

Bum

>>174612605
It honestly fits. Makes Kallari feel like an actual assassin.

>>174615021
Crossbows shoot horizontally wouldn't work.
They'll probably add a crossbow hero in the future.
I cant wait for them to add a Scythe hero to overshadow Severog hnnng

https://youtu.be/rDfpBn17dYc

>>174622647
>Kallari
>Assassin
lmao

>>174623036
Then what is she

>>174627473
A waste of a team slot.

I think I'm gonna put this game on the backburner until they nerf the OP buff. I get that it's supposed to be strong and you need to ward it, but since a carry can solo it, literally all 4 of his team can just guard and kill anyone who tries to stop him if you have more than one person dead.

Once they get it, they get lanes instantly pushed up for 30 seconds, they get mana and HP regen when out of combat for the duration of OP (so they can just back up for a few seconds if they get a sliver of health missing and heal up while your team fights the others), and they can just eat through structures.

Yeah the match times are shorter, but now more than ever there is no strategy at all other than get the last hit on OP and then team wipe them.

This goes both ways, and when my team gets OP I know it's pretty much a win unless our lanes are pushed all the way back and they have taken an inhib from us.

There is no joy in winning with OP. My team won a round yesterday without using OP, but it was just SO much harder than with it. It felt good, but all the while all it would have taken is a Yin from the enemy team to kill Prime in 10 seconds and then we could easily have wiped and had our core rushed.

This game needs an overhaul on balance when a Kallari can tower dive you for 20 solid seconds and get away alive after killing you.

But it is beta, so I can't complain much. I'll just stop playing until the next big patch and OP gets changed.

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>tfw I bought Pocahontas Sparrow skin
>tfw now there is an objectively superior skin coming out for her

Also
>>174611225

>aww yiss

Tumblr girl detected. Stop drawing all your characters with red noses.

>>174629043
>tumblr girl

how dare you assume my gender

I want to have sex with every female in this game

>>174628818
Nice reddit spacing. Not wrong though.

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>>174629729
>there will never be good r34 of dekker, countess and belicia

>>174630887
>reddit spacing
why do 4chan users like to give reddit credit for things they haven't created? paragraph separation is a product of reddit culture? really now?

though to be fair, I don't really understand why people space their sentences out if there's no reason to do so. you should really only do that for separation of ideas. still though, quit giving Reddit credit for shit they have nothing to do with. blame retarded shit on them if anything.

>>174640463
Paragraph separation between every sentence does not make every sentence a paragraph, retard.

>criticizing spacing
/parag/ everyone

>>174641494
which is why I included the spoiler, bonehead. point is, don't fucking give reddit credit for things that existed hundreds of years before it was ever even thought of. that anon had the right idea but his formatting probably wasn't necessary.

>>174642860
it's the new meme. I can guarantee that reddit has only GROWN in popularity because of the idiots here that can't help but mention them in every post.

>>174643231
It was never a meme. Either ESL retards or reddit spacing morons. Both are trash.

>>174644231
more like slump

>>174580787
approx 15 days if i'm not wrong

>team thinks i'm going to lock in shinbi
>lock in sevarog instead

>>174641494
>Paragraph separation between every sentence does not make every sentence a paragraph,
Just going to point out the actual retard here.
As long as it is a new idea/topic, a sentence can in fact be a paragraph

what's going on? does anyone watch any Paragon streamers?

I've only been playing co-op against AI and I don't really intend to play normal matches but I'm curious, is Lt. Belica as crazy OP as she seems? I feel like an unstoppable beast when I use her and I feel terrified whenever I go up against her.

Also why is The Fey considered a Support when all of her abilities except for the long range attack fill the same roles that Gideon's abilities fill? She also feels like a monster but not as much as Lt. Belica.

>>174661632
Nope, never took interest in watching other people play a game

>>174655609
>Last on draft
>Don't lock in until the last second
>Lock in Kallari

Gg ez pz

Why is this on page 10?

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>try morigesh offlane
>keep going even
>try morigesh mid lane
>full combo is enough to delete anyone at 40 power

>>174673340
why do you think? because nobody is posting.

>>174675731
I was just bumping

Christ, I hear the meta is trash and lower rankings is endless suffering. I don't know the jungle meta but I know enough about mobas not to let towers go undefended. This is a fucking nightmare, when does it end?

What do you guys think of the new rogue skins?

>>174676813
Cloth physics looks cool. Don't play as either of those characters personally.

>>174675939
me too ;_;

I'm surprised how well this game runs on my toaster. Then again I only play games at 30FPS.

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I love it when a plan comes together

When do players stop being horrible? This low level matching is too fucking much. I want to quit having to suffer all these retards.

>>174680509
not till 1900
1650 and players still dont know how to farm

>>174681854
I don't know if I can hold out that long.

>>174663141
Full Power & APen Riktor is OP vs bots dude you end up with 20 something kills, play any amount of pvp matches before coming to any conclusions.

>3 STUN META
Love this so much <3

>>174661632
imsko is the only one that's bearable and he's still pretty cringe with all that dumb potato shit

So, renewing the question, since everyone complains anout shit players in team(and with good reason), is anyone here actually willing to form any team, at least from time to time?

>>174694308
iCameron is good, the dude never gets mad.

I loved all about Legacy. The map had some problem, but nothing that couldn't be fixxed.

I will never fogive Epic for the shitty new map and gameplay renew.

>>174701572
I prefer legacy as a map but I prefer the increased gameplay speed that we have now.

>>174702046
Pretty much this, but I also miss the harvesters, dunking, damage type split and all the other mechanics that made the game more original and tactical but went down the drain with monolith. I feel like the game has lost most of its soul and can't really develop a new one.

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>>174703772
>mfw dunking with Rampage
Truly the best of times

>>174705513
>Your team distracts enemies' attention with a teamfight
>Meanwhile you sneak through the jungle behind them and deliver the orb
>Before they realise what you're doing it's too late to stop it
Dunking was fun as fuck

>>174706640
but as with anything else epic doesn't know how to balance, they just removed it from the game entirely. can't wait for when OP buff is completely gone.

>>174709296
Kek, I can totally see this
>We made this thing too overpowered and the players are complaining! So instead of at least changing it back to how it was before let's scrap the boss all together!

>borderline plat
>keep fluctating
>makes every feel extremely tense
I won't feel truly plat until I hit 1580

>página diez

I don't envy junglers.

As soon as someone in lane gets ganked by over extending suddenly it's your fault.

>page ten again

Voice lines and music fucking when?

>>174730145
I don't know, but that's when I actually start playing this game desu

>Have to wait weeks for characters to unlock
W H Y

>>174730425
I don't really know what were they thinking with this ridiculous "unlock after days in game" system. Locking more advanced heroes away from noobs hands is understandable, but making days ingame the unlock criteria is completely nosensical, it's not a measure of anything.

>>174730890
I'd gladly practice against bots if I could ree

Tried morigesh for the first time mid plat, went 12 - 4 - 14.

How is this bitch not considered OP?

I started feeling bad for killing their Murdock with a few abilities.

>>174737589
She's stupidly OP and annoying as hell. Probably the main reason why I don't play as much as I used to.

>kallari chases low hp adc in enemy jungle
>their team arrives and rapes her
>twinblast decides to hearth nearby prime, team arrives and fucks him too
>the enemy has activated the orb prime

apparently old music is coming back but still no word on voice lines. if the characters were actually given their voices I feel as though the game would gain popularity quicker. does anyone else kind of associate a unique personality to each hero just based on how they look and their demeanor?

>>174748138
They're all pretty archetypical, so sure. And their voice line only acknowledge and reinforce that. They are pretty good and videos of gameplay with them in look fantastic. And I'm really glad about them bringing back the old music if that's true, the old themes were way better than the current one.

I'm sure tired of these low level games. They're either my team feeds the only decent person on their team and it becomes a nightmare or the enemy feeds me and I become a nightmare. I also still not sure how the jungle works in this game. I know that the river buff is delicious and gives mana back but I am not sure if in real matches I should leave it to the mid or not.

thoughts on the bloodborne character reveal?

>>174750620
Pretty cool when it comes to mechanics and great when it comes to design, especially after the previous reveals. Few days post his release will be pure cancer though.

>its another 1/7 adc and 0/12 support episode

how the FUCK do so many people lose 1v2 lanes? i can almost understand against morigesh because of her being ranged and busted damage but against kwang or feng? really?

How do you counter jungler Gadget?