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Still meta edition

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Coco&Mimi: >>174068705
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first for somebody give me a fucking storm dragon list
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>>174104834
Luna is cute and meta!
Good job Luna!
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repostan

Congratulations to the Winner of the SVG Open Tourney #5!
Bracket: challonge.com/en/SVGOT5

1st Tramps (Vengeance Blood)
2nd Radian (Vengeance Blood)
3rd Hhhunter (Seraph)

Thank you all for participating! As usual, props to Selftips (Radian) for streaming. (Also thanks to Catarino for offering to stream)
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Anyone play Gwent? Is it worth checking out?
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post elf
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>>174104854

kys blood is lietrally top tier

even my heavy teched Candedrala serah can't beat them
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33922
need that concede
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>>174104834
>tfw you try to do x and another craft does it vastly better
Feels like shit

>>174104898
>Put in ramp
>Put it storm
>Put in VALUE cards
>Face is the place
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>>174104834
Why you guys love this LUNAtic psychopath again?
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>>174104962
>tfw one win away from being named

alas
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>>174104784
>3rd place Seraph

Keep reppin the statue, m8. Grats to all the participants of the tourney.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12741916

http://www.strawpoll.me/12741901
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Once the aggro shadow nerfs start rolling in everyone will start complaining about the most underrated card of the expansion
Best part? Can be run in the exact same deck
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>>174104973

meant for >>174104962
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How the fuck are you supposed to win against Aegis?
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>>174104962
I brought a meme deck and I misplayed and got high rolled. Oh well, it was fun. Kys Blood is serious business as expected.
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>>174105129
go face
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>>174105129
Same way you play against Seraph. Kill Eris/Threaten Lethal against her the whole time before turn 8/9 so that playing Aegis is a losing move.
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>try to make cblood deck for shadow/dragon
>run into the some stupid motherfucker who is playing dshift in this meta as my first game
nice matchmaking
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>>174105205
I'd love to.
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>>174105129
just put stuff on the board and kill the havencuck before he manages to drop it bro

just avoid getting your board
scriptured
forbidden ritual'd
iron maiden'd
tribunal'd
papa cudgel'd
themis'd
death sentenced
lion roared

it's that easy bro
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Can I get a concede please?
88802
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delete dragon
and haven
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>>174104962
>Grand finals is kys blood
You shouldn't have streamed it, people are gonna catch on.
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>>174105074
Each triggers should have been a phase. But probably too spooky.
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>>174104962
Wait, so what did they win?
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man it took forever to get out of the A's

I look forward to my year of AA
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>>174105480
>8 man tournament
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>>174105514
epeen.
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>>174105514
little fairies onaholes
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>>174105320
Thank you Gandalf
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>>174105514
Glory and praise among the autistic masses on /svg/. Props to them, though. Tourneys can be fun.
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>>174105129
Combo it to death, any deck that plays passively loses hard to a combo deck. Try wolfbolt forest for one.
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>>174105548
in a 200 man tourny kys win too
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>>174105545
AA3 is the only part where I started having trouble. I got to AA3 like 5 times before I started progressing again.
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>>174105548
25 people watched
25 people who now know the power of assisted suicide
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>>174105514
I'd gift them vials if I could but alas cygames doesnt allow that
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>>174105698
It just takes so much longer when there are no win streaks. I"m also pretty sure you need more experience to level up, so it's a real grind
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>>174105569
np
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>>174105705
Instead, you should ask for free vials from them to support this kek
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>>174105514
A date with Unica! They will accompany Unica-chan to the bi-annual fireworks festival in town!
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>>174105665
This. Nothing activates my salt factor more than an elf that either roaches my shit up or wolfbolt my shit up as a Haven player.
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>>174105489
What is even happening in the 3rd one
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for those who also want to 10pp do nothing
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>>174105552
>>174105564
>>174105631
>>174105705

So more or less nothing, not even a $5 Steam card or some other token. What the hell kind of tournament doesn't have some kind of prize for winner?

I mean, it doesn't have to be money, but even the old olympics gave olive branches to the winners
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>>174104962

Good job Tramps, you won and didn't get disqualified due to some faggot whining after you beat him.
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So how come Cygames hasn't done any promo stuff for their anime (apart from the Granblue Fantasy crossover sleeves) in Shadowverse?

They had the anime's main characters as special cards back in Rage of Bahamut when the first season aired so they'd just have to recycle the art from that.
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>Orthus hits the correct enemy and buffs the correct follower for exact lethal.

out-skilled.
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>>174106062
What did Tramps do that would get him disqualified? Did he change his deck?
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>>174105074
>nerfs
>on Shadow

Not gonna happen, unless you want to face Dragon 100% of the time in ranked until the next set comes out.
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>>174105218
But their entire strategy until turn 9 is making sure you can't hit face or control the board.
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>>174106038
It's a free to enter tournament held by a bunch of nobodies on a burmese pedophile board. What do you expect?
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>>174105698
I struggled for a while myself a few days ago in AA2. I must've ranked and deranked like 6 or 7 times before I got a decent way in. I'm telling you, I'm less than 9000 total points away from Master but I've like completely lost my will to grind. It's so close yet so far.
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>>174106129
The opposite. He didnt change his deck
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>>174106038
No one here wants to provide a prize. Take your reddit spacing and fuck off, newfag.
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>>174106129
He signalled "kill all jews" by emoting in morse code during the tournament stream
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>>174106129

He hit the wrong deck button, and then backed out of the match as soon as the game let him. They then played out the game, and he stomped the streamerfag he fought. Then said faggot whined to the judges to get the win tossed out, and of course they listened, because you gotta suck that streamercock. Despite the fact that this happened in earlier matches with a different player, and they didn't do anything about it.
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>>174104962
How did Vengeance blood beat all those midrange shadows?
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>tfw you win because opponent misses lethal
it's an abstract sort of feel
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>>174106237
>newfag
>reddit spacing

Methinks there's only one newfag here, and I'm talking to it.
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>>174106129
He broke the rules!
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>>174106151
>easy wins with my soul dealer deck
I don't mind those free wins
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>>174106250
oy vey
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>>174106343
>tfw you win because your opponent loses connection before he can kill you
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>>174106151
>they can only nerf one class
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>>174106151
Shadow has almost 60% winrate and any retard can pilot it. Kill yourself shadownigger.
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>>174105129
Earthshock ogre for 10 face plus trade with the body

>>174105218
Can't threaten through a tribunal played t3 turns ago or a death sentence
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Hearing about the tourney that disqualified Tramps depresses the fuck out of me. Worse that the winner had the gall to make that leddit post smugly accepting his win. What a shitshow.
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>>174106250
What is happening here?
What is happening here?
What is happening here?
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>>174106180
And that is their weakness.
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>>174106317
>aggro early game
>get 6damage storms on turn 4
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>>174105785
That'd put us on the radar.
This means that we can't stream in superior undub.
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>>174106359
>Get called out
>No u
You have to go back.
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>>174105952
Would Bahamut work better in this deck?
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>>174106427
Nerfing shadow means more forest though, which meme dealer is terrible against.
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>the vials of soul dealers are inside of dragon decks right now
>the soul dealers alive are beating the shit out of greed dragon decks
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>>174106151
You realize they can nerf both classes, just like they did with Rune and Forest, right?
Also, Shadow is a much bigger problem than Dragon.
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>>174106569
don't say the part we streaming

done
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>>174106343
>So mad over grimnir you miss that you have lethal
>Lose
Feels bad
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>>174106584
>Called out without providing any proof

Sure dude, whatever you want to believe
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>>174106514
The ''winner'' also appeared on his own podcast as a guest and interviewed himself.
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>>174106618
deepest lore
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>>174106610
just tech sadistic night bro
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>>174106586
i honestly don't know. I threw Satan in because its my deck left that can fit him in. It prob wouldnt change much desu
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>>174106690
What a cunt.
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>>174106631
How is shadow a much bigger problem than dragon? They have 0 ramp and 0 healing unlike dragon who got BOTH in a single card
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>>174106151
>what I expect: nerf bat smashing shadow into pieces to SHADOW IS DEAD
>what will happen: nerf stick just increases prince's cost to 4

I doubt they'll jump into dragon since lel60k vials to run, plus if they hit Zell too, they won't flock to it.

They'll just go full midrange shadow or jump back to Albert, Daria and whatverblood. At worst, they'll go Aegis.
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>>174106690
How do you interview yourself
That's not how it works stupid shadowbabs
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>>174106151
>btw i'm actually good at the game and not carried by my class guys :^)
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>>174106438
>>174106540

Those jews are quite sharp to have been able to detect that coded message in an obscure tournament for an anime card game, I'm telling ya
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>>174106514
>deletes his own posts
>his own discord was calling him a jew
>reputation forever ruined
>will always be remembered as a fraud
It'll only be better if he chokes during his first match in the finals.
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>>174106798
Dragon doesn't have almost 70% winrate against 3 classes, while being positive against all others.
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>all it takes is a guy reminding his allies that they have a skeleton inside to bring Shadow to 60%

Really makes you think. And no, without the early pressure and stickiness catacomb offers, Eachtar and Thane won't be able to set sail.
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>>174106690
>tfw Shadowverse english scene is filled with the mentally-ill or scumbag leftovers that couldn't make it big in Hearthstone
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>>174106938
But he plays unbeatable dragon how can he ever lose
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>>174106798
>turn 1 - 1/X creature/no drop
>turn 2 - 2/2 creature
>3 - prince
>4 - orthus/double reapers
>5 - cerb
>6- howling/death's breath, you dead
>7-eachtar, you dead

They can easily flood the board, buff it and keep flooding the board with token.

If you can keep pressure on ramp dragon, they'd choose to control can't ramp or ramp and pray to survive for mass removal.
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>luna tries to ram her ghosts into my owlcat
This shit's gotten me way more mileage and laughs than lyrial ever did.
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plz concede thnak you
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>>174106938
>>his own discord was calling him a jew

LMAO Really? I wish we had a screenshot of that
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SOULSHQASHER IS ABJECT BULLSHIT
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>say "Excellent work" before lethal because it really was a good game
>get this
Vaniafags are the worst.
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>>174107085
>it's a 2/1 shit surely die!
I think it's the player first time to see owlcat.
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>>174106631
Honestly only 2 cards in tgis expansion are busted, CATACOMBS AND ZELL. The rest are completely in line with what needs to be strong to win in this game.

Catacombs because he does so much for to little cost.

>Gives you shadows
>Buffs reapers
>enables shadow users such as eachtar, Howlings, soul squasher
>stacks like a madman
>enables draw power

Making him 4pp slows down this significantly, but honestly they might just change how the card works.

Zell is just retardedly busted and enables to many burst combos with no consequence. It's not needed when Dragon is already overloaded with storm cards that can win you the game. Make zell 4pp to limit his combos.

Grimnir is nowhere near busted, but I would like to hear a good post of why I'm wrong.
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>1x seraph
>2x aegis
>3x grails
and a dark jeanne

what kind of abomination can i create with these?
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>>174107058
That's why you respond with a turn 2 removal like Whole-soulded, Blaze etc going second. That's how you fought off aggro shadow since start of the game.
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>>174107182
>Honestly only 2 cards in tgis expansion are busted, CATACOMBS AND ZELL. The rest are completely in line with what needs to be strong to win in this game.
Sibyl and Eachtar are also retarded, but I doubt they will nerf legendaries.
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>>174107058
Thats midrange not >>174106953
Compared to:
>pass 5 turns and win anyway because you have infinite healing and ramp
I'll take aggro decks over dragon bullshit any day of the week
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>>174106801
>At worst, they'll go Aegis.

If they do give the nerfbat to shadow/dragon, then I predict that Haven will drop down as the other decks start picking up. The only reason why Haven had the playrate it did was because of the prevalence of those two classes.

I really doubt people will jump onto the Aegis train once the nerfs come through. It's too clunky and stiff of a deck to reliably win with. The only train that Haven can expect to see is the road down to being nothing but Tier 3 decks all around.
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>>174107134
It should be enhance 4 + necromancy 4 or some shit.
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>make cblood deck to counter shadow
>can't even beat it
what a fucking joke
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>>174107232
Use 1 seraph and 2 aegis to beat shadowa nd dragon bbs
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>>174107249
>Thats midrange not >>174106953
Those stats are from Midrange. Midrange Shadow is the better deck.
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>>174107329
>counter shadow
can't be done
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>>174106953
stop posting these useless stats. holy fuck you retard. the top players are posting 22+ game winstreaks in top 100 masters and its not some one off or opening day of expansion shit - its every fucking day.
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>>174107247
Sibyl is fine, as long as heal dies to combo, I have no problem with it existing in it's current form.
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>>174107232
a wonky as fuck "storm" deck featuring le invincible turn 9 do nothing and le edgy french lady
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>>174107468
How is shadow losing then? How am I not losing to aggro shadow? Oh right i'm not a filthy netdecker and i tech against it
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>>174107182
>2/3 neutral ward for 3pp, AND an enhance effect
you cant make this shit up
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>>174107479
>stop posting statistics, anecdotal evidence means much more
You can't be this retarded.
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>>174107291
Aren't your typical stall Aegis decks cheap like needing 3 Themis and 3 Aegis at a budget?
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>>174107134
>teleports and cuts you down

Nah. Soulsquasher is perfectly fine.
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>>174107574
i'm teching in flood behemoth and was even trying vlad but i still die to phantom howl + cerb on t6.

shits a joke, senpai
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>>174107182
>2/3 ward for 3 - the best antiaggro card in the game and only ward with this statline in the game
>board wipe that hits face and shoves a fuck you ward to stop storm dmg if you draw into it late game

Yeah, its not busted at all. Its only run in fucking aggro decks now. You are trash. You have no idea what is good or bad in this game and you should fucking kill yourself for your next captia test before posting.
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>>174107329
Post dick
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>>174107630
>>174107574
>turn 2 vampire kiss
>set up some spiderweb imp
>hungering horde the skeleton horde

What seems to be the problem?
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Post underrated cards
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>>174107606
They are useless because they are self reported by shitters and not indicative anything. When the best players post contradictory stats that show different winrates and matchups, you know these shitty self reported and made up "stats" can be ignored.
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We did it boys
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>>174107134
Just don't evolve bro haha
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>Prince catacomb banishes all followers and summons a 1/1 skelly for each one
Consider the following
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>>174107495
I tried a storm deck with the emo chick and some iron maidens. made some people disconnect. will try aegis in it
>>174107331
how do i make it to turn 8/9/10? do i just make my deck all removals and banishments and wards?
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>>174107718
>spiderweb imp
AA0? unica does a better job of trading with the board.
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>>174107826
Better themis for 3PP? Sounds balanced
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>>174107905
Was meant to type allied followers
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>>174107626
I mean, it may be cheap, but in this current meta it has a sub 50% winrate with clear cut weaknesses. I expect it to drop down even further simply because it's "honest" in the sense that people can exploit it and know what to expect from an Aegis deck. And being "honest" is probably the worst thing to be in any meta since you can't exploit any jank or bullshit to reliably win games.

Forest and Sword will make a comeback once the nerfs hit Dragon and Shadow. Blood will probably be fine. Rune is still rune, and Haven will still be Haven.
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Concede please.
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>>174107826
>Prince Catacomb now gives "Last Word: Summon a Skeleton. Deal 3 damage to your leader."

I'd prefer something like that.
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>>174107874
>more than 2 weeks into ToG
>he actually thinks imp is a bad card

A0?
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>>174107663
Whoa dude, first and foremost go fuck yourself and leave leave your salty bullshit away from me you faggot pedo dweeb. I was asking for a good opinion on why its busted, I was not asking for a low life nagger to throw me their bloody tampon. Chill the fuck out you little bitch.
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>>174107718
Imp gets party'd or Orthus'd
1/1 bumps it, shits another skelly fattens up reaper.

Even Rahab gets shredded like wet toilet paper against shadow.
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>>174108023
Doesn't fit shadow at all.
Just slap some necromancy cost on it.
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>>174107796
>When the best players post contradictory stats
What contradictory stats? What point are you even defending? You didn't even say what deck those supposed """""""BEST PLAYERS""""""" are using to get big winstreaks.

>They are useless because they are self reported by shitters and not indicative anything
Yeah, I'm sure data from a couple lucky players means much more than tens of thousands of games.
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Why haven't you spent 10k on Meme Dealers yet?
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>>174108134
too embarrased to recraft him
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>hit aa0
>immediately face pepe

So this where memes go to die
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>>174108029
a 1/4 on 2 trades the same as a 2/2. kys runs it because it uses ship and doesn't want the heal off unica.
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>>174108107
>gets party'd or Orthus'd

So what's stopping you from using Vampire Kiss or Hungering Horde against them?
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>>174108134
it costs 20k for me
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>>174108112
Holy shit this is the smartest solution I have ever seen on this board!!! What would make it viable but not broken though? Necromancy (3) seems like the safest bet.
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>>174108323
fattening up the reaper
giving him more shadows for howl/breath/eachtar
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>>174108134
but i did
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>>174107826
How to fix Prince Catacomb:

Prince Catacomb now has this additional effect:

Fanfare: Your opponent's followers also have Last Words: Summon a 1/1 Skeleton

BAM

FIXED
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>>174108128
But the only decks that are actually being used by best players are aggro shadow and aggro blood
Dragon is nowhere in sight. So why is everyone complaining about shadow and dragon when its actually shadow and blood that is dominating high ranks
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>pepecucks
why do people run this deck again?
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>>174108493
>Righteous Devil
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>tfw when never vial legendaries in the event that they become meta staples in the next expansion
>tfw got tons of useless lego cards

just you wait, cards like Eidolon will become good
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>>174108509
>skellies everywhere

ARE YOU TRYING TO SPOOP US ALL?
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>rerolled
>win 1 game with forest
So it has come to this.
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I can't believe there are people trying to defend Shadow in this thread.
Lunaniggers were a mistake.
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>>174108134
I only need 14k to get a playset of both dealer and bel, but I am not thinking about laddering with blood.

>>174108429
>them dropping reaper on turn 2

Just stop their early aggression and it will have nothing to feed on.

>aggro running breath

Just horde bro.
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does forte use her horns to duel for mates?
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>>174108541
because its cheap and they don't have anything else?
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>>174107807
Congrats!
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>>174108541
memes. i don't think anyone plays that deck hoping for a decent winrate.
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>>174108672
She is a devil so no she just gets raped and has a baby
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>>174108574
it's not spoopy if everyone's the same now
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>>174108589
People were defending Forest too before it was nerfed. Some of them don't want their free wins taken away and the others think the deck is fine and that they're just really good at the game.
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>>174108724
Thanks slut luna
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>>174108638
>has 41k vials in reg cards
>that's not even counting the vials from animated cards
aaaaaa
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>>174108019
>80607
Someone please.
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>>174108672
Her horns are handlebars for easy face fucking
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>>174108561
i only play one and only play him if need, today alone hes saved me a few games
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>>174108809
how much have you spent anon
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>>174108541
Not sure, each time enemy pepes have lethal at T6 against me but I brick each time I try to run it
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I swear if a Shadowverse streamer suddenly made a Reddit account, I would lose all respect for him and NEVER watch him again ever
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>>174108816
Thanks!
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>shadow can turn one skelle dog every game
>dragon can turn two oracle every game
>i can't turn 3 blood moon every game

what the fuck game? it's even more likely for me to have it than them
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>>174108809
Yet I still don't have all legendaries because the game loves to fuck with me.
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>>174108961
>unironically running meme moon
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>>174108961
You can turn 4 memestealer and belphegor every game though
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>>174108961
>>shadow can turn one skelle dog every game
I fucking wish
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>>174108778
Forest is probably the one deck that angers me, more so than any other craft, due to how flexible it is.

>didn't get the wolf or bolt? no problem, just roach them to death
>getting aggro'd? have these wards and free evos to clear any threat they built up
>roaches not enough? go storm up with george of the jungle and punch him in the face

Getting roached is such a shitty feeling. D-shift at least lets you just concede.
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>>174109032
Is this your first month!!?
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>>174108961
>>shadow can turn one skelle dog every game
>>dragon can turn two oracle every game
that only happens against you, those cards hide on the bottom 3 cards when you try to play those decks
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>>174109325
Don't you know?
Cygames sponsores Daigo, PR_Rog and Snake Eyez
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http://svdb.ze.am/v/leader/ja/vo_05_017.wav
http://svdb.ze.am/v/leader/ja/vo_05_018.wav
http://svdb.ze.am/v/leader/ja/vo_05_017.wav
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>>174109325
SFV is such a heaping pile of shit right now, they might as well get players off that sinking ship.
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>>174109261
Forest has so many good cards but those treehuggers still cry every expansion about how they don't get cards that are even more broken than Roach.
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>>174109261
If any deck in this game angers you, it's because your ignorant.
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>>174108961
I wish turn 2 oracle happens every time when I play dragon. At best it's between 20-40%.

>dammit need oracle, chuck my fatties back
>get my fatties back and an emissary
>enemy is aggro
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>174109179
that has resulted me in getting evo'd dorked in the face too many times

>>174109175
it's pretty sick if i can get the damn card. 4/7 baned creatures or labrynth devil getting a free kill + full stats on evo is pretty good
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>>174109397
>throwing our pack money to SFV

its all a ruse by Jewcom!
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>>174108809
>dusting your animated cards
>dusting your extra leggos
I'm a collector.
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>>174108961
>turn 1 water fairy into fairy whisperer every game
>turn 1 eggs into turn 2 oracle every game
>turn 1 insight into turn 2 lou every game
>turn 1 Ta-G into turn 2 palace fencer every game
>turn 1 sacred plea into hallowed dogma every game
>turn 1 shadow beast into zombie party every game
>turn 1 ambling wraith into turn 2 blood wolf every game
>but only against you
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>>174109494
Yet everytime I meet dragon its turn 2 oracle...how the fuck do they do it.
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>Grimnir is nerfed so he has the same restriction like Sybil for his enhance (only works on turn 10 or later)

There, fixed.
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>open a second Roland
should I craft 3 gawains and a 3rd roland and fall for the commandercraft meme?
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>>174109665
>turn 1 eggs
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>>174109325
>Cygames wants the eSports audience

No you fucking idiotic suits. eSports kills games by sterilizing the fun out of it in the name of "competitive fairness!

REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>174109753
>turn 1 do nothing
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>>174109770
>press wrong button once
>dq from GF
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>>174109665
>water fairy

What shit rank are you playing in!?
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>>174109751
You don't need a third Roland.
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>>174109332
No, been here since DE. It's just that cygames love to mess with my packs. Those are legendaries which I have more than a playset.

I just hope I can open Eachtar in the next 10 packs for his emblem.
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>>174109665
>>turn 1 sacred plea into hallowed dogma every game

eh, that's not much. more like turn one plea -> banish whatever you play -> amulet fetch -> tribunal. that's sure to tilt anyone not shadow
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>>174109751
Gawain is such a shit card

don't do it anon.
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>>174109873
AA0
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>>174109864
I wasn't really referring to that, but, OK
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>>174109665
>palace fencer
>eggs
>plea into dogma
You are just making shit up right now.
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can I get a concede please

57275

thanks in advanced
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>>174109968
>tribunal my evolved soul dealer
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>>174109968
I think there's something worse
>plea
>banish
>plea/any cd amulet
>baldy man, banish your follower and hits another
EVERY FUCKING TIME
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>>174109419
I haven't followed SF much, but how did SFV managed to fuck up after the milestone SF4 has set up? They were too busy making MH games and neglecting it?
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>>174109878
>tfw get 3 Roland

I wish I got 3 Sibyls instead....
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>>174110241
>tfw get 3 Sybil
I wish I got 3 majestic Roland armpit instead....
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>>174110238
They released a new SF too soon.

Capcom should have just released a new installment for one of their older or forgotten fighting games like Darkstalker or Plasma Sword so they can play around with new fighting system and mechanics and get new players in that don't really like SF's style
>>
I am pretty sure there was once an event during darkness evolved where they would give out expansion packs for arena instead of the standard packs.
was there such an event during bahamut?
I am sitting on 14 arena tickets waiting for the event to drop, but I have no idea if they are going to do it again
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I want to do things to not-Rowen
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>>174110741

You're right on the DE event, but bitchfits ensured and they didn't do it for RoB.
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>>174110741
Never because they said

"You pipor are totari ungretfoor, no mor difurent pak ibunt forr you"

When we complained that DE packs were also shit
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>>174110786

Why not-Rowen, when you could have Rowen?
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Is Dark Jeanne good? I pulled an animated one, but considering dusting her because I need the vials.
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>>174110898
>>174110867

i started playing when it released on steam, but I had no idea people where bitching about such an event.
I was actually happy when they did it since i was more interested in them.
And now that people have probably already a nice collection of standard it is a much better deal for exp packs to drop. that confuses me.
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>>174111110
Its fine. Shes not a deck defining leg but rather a supplementary leg.
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>>174111110
She's starting to see more play.
It's scary when you have a Birdsong and Aria go off on t6 and you drop her fatass right on the board.
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>>174111009
1. Cannot go full thicc when a girl touches him
2. Isnt autistic
3. Bad Dragons are a big no
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>>174110786
Nina card when?
inb4 she evolves for free if there are prettyboys in the field
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>>174111110

They released cards like Octobishop. If I had to say, I think they're testing the waters with the actual boss card for a new storm haven and seeing how it does.

Like imagine if they released Daria with none of her tempo rune goonies.
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>>174106801
I doubt they'll do anything to shadow.Dragon and shadow are manageable, it's just that you can't stop both extremes at once
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>>174111323
How do you stop dragon playing aggro?
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76407 need a concede
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what're the odds of every card in a pack being animeted
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>>174111009
Rowen's dragon is not cute enough.

>>174111230
>Isnt autistic
Not so sure about that.
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>>174111213
>>174111263
The only Haven deck I have is Aegis. Does she have a place in there or should I just vial her for now?
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This fucking streamer is actually contemplating making a Reddit account. What the fuck.
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>>174111489
nice 2500 vials you got there friend
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>>174107479
Good players have been doing that every week of every meta you double retard

>>174107493
>>as long as heal dies to combo
>Cursed storm royal can do 9-14 storm dmg from hand each turn
>They just DELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELET all 3 generals through ambush anyway
I dunno what you want from me famalamadingdong. Even tyrant can't stop them

>>174107134
Just play around it bro if you want to block their way bro

>>174111489
It's a separate roll for an all-animated.

>>174111445
I kill the shit out of them with overstatted cards because the stupid fucks are greedy? Your heal doesn't matter if I outdamage it, you can't ward value removal/fanfares, and pings don't stop the storm.
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>>174111562
Don't vial her. If you really need vials try liquefying animated cards you don't like first.
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>>174111643
what?
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>>174111643
what are you guys watching
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>>174111110
>>174111562
She's alright and she's only going to get better. If you need vials, grind arena instead of setting yourself back for no good reason.
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>>174111562
Keep her, man. She's currently situational, but the shift in the meta might make her useful.
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>>174111445
It's harder to win with aggro since once dragon stabilizes, you're fucked. Pressuring dragon into ramp and die or defend and not ramp. Force him to burn evos as possible.

Mid has much better chances against dragon.
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>>174111534
Is his dragon form a new thing or are they just reusing shit from rob like everything else
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>>174111781
>tfw
>Candelabra
>Ritual/Ebil Deeds
>Lion
>Dark Jeanne
>Manifestation of faith
>Themis
>Skullfam
>Dark jeanne
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>>174111471
Anyone?
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>>174111719
>>174111774

https://www.twitch tv/bakab4k4

He mentioned he wants to make a Reddit account to get help for his Granblue quest where he needs 30 players(?). I don't think he knows /GBFG/ exists
>>
Is Earthshock Ogre any good?
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>>174109665
>Not running ironwrought fortress
>Not running Fearless banneret
>Not running pompous princess
>Not rousing step a board with 13+ knight/heavy knight/vanguard/QBladers
Haha oh wait fuck you kikegames
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>>174111471
Thanks vampy
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>>174111940
>didnt post vania,luna or forte
>expects a concede
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>>174112017
Fuck YES he is. I have never mined more salt than from the big beautiful bastard assblasting face for 10 damage while slamming into shit with his Thicc 6/6 body
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>>174112002
why do we care about him
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>>174112184
how'd you get 10 damage out of him?
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>>174112002

Can't he just grab random people?
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>>174111823
>You pressure
>They ramped and blazed, next they salamander with enhance the board
EVERY FUCKING TIME
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>>174112002
Who the fuck cares
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>>174112238
Appreciating true quality
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>>174112231
He's literally not Reddit
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>>174112245
I have no idea how the quest he was talking about works, but he'd probably be able to get 30 people no problem on /gbfg/

>>174112316

That's only 8 damage, if I'm not wrong
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>>174112316
Is he good outside of pendant memes?
>>
Paraneko is streaming more Haven
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>>174112339
watched awhile, yeah hes pretty autistic

pretty not reddit, will fit right in us
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>>174112441

Well, I'm saying that usually anything I run into I've been able to go to the in-game option where you just broadcast that you need help.
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>>174112441
Why the fuck do you want your average normie on 4chan? Just fuck off.
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>>174112542
I know man, that's why if could do something to tell him /gbfg/ exists, I'd do it
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>>174112631
He's really not a normie at all. This guy >>174112542 backs up my observation.
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>>174112441
2 donger dangers

>>174112493
Sure? He's still a 6/6 with a 3 dmg burn and if you run a more control focused list you can easily have the ep for him
>>
>Get rid of my budget disco deck without saving a screen
>The remake is shit I can feel it in my bones
Goddamnit
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Can I get a concede? 73481
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>>174112840
>2 donger dangers

That's pretty hard to do if you want to win a game
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>>174112805
Retard, you really need to go back. Fuck shit, this is what I call permaban worth.
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Give Dirt Burn dicklist
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>>174112976
Not really. It's a function of how effectively you can swing tempo and heal for value
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And it only took 744 ranked wins!
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>>174112805
Why the fuck would you even want to advertise for this shit anyway, both the streamer to us and this thread to him? Fuck off with your shit.

Even if he does have a few best girls on his stream.
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>>174112985
>Permabans on /vg/
Found the real Redditard. Go back to your fucking shithole. I swear this go back shit was started by Redditfugees trying to act like they've been here all along/
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Who is the girl with Azazel?
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>>174113151
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>>174113320
that's a boy
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>>174113071
Well I guess you would drop both of them on consecutive turns, but the more you delay it, the more risky it becomes because both crystals need to stay on board and 10 damage isn't really that impressive
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>>174113381
Nah, I drop 1, then I can drop the other when a cantrip/fanfare fucks em
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>>174113205
Who the fuck was advertising? Those anons were asking who I was watching and I told them.
Fuck off with these falsflag accusations
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>>174113359
Are you making fun of me? Boys cant be that cute
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>>174113151
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM, I GOT TO MASTERS WITH A 60% WINRATE DECK
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>>174113151
Offer Luna a cum tribute for carrying you.
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>>174113151
>all these new Masters
>it's only gonna make it hard when the next top 100/1000 reward comes up
stop climbing reeeeeee
>>
just got to masters. what non-meta deck is fun to play?
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>>174113673
Anything PTP
OTK Kel
Sneks
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>>174113673
Azazel OTK so you can pick on the dragons and havens. Matchup against shadow isn't terrible either.
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>>174113631
>You now realize that it will take exponentially more and more time to reach top 100/1000 each time they offer a reward for it if the playerbase keeps growing making you question if it really is worth the time investment for what measly things they are offering
>>
Thicc
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>>174113839
succ
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what is the azazel otk
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>>174113673
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>t2 oracle
>t3 rahab
>t4 rahab and evolve
>still lost
Dragoncucks when will they ever learn
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>>174114000
>tfw vialed well fo destiny
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>>174113272
You're not fooling anyone, circlejerk child.
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paraneko is streaming some spicy haven deck
https://www.openrec.tv/live/N5IWys1v8xe
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hope you guys enjoy the next meta with sword being t1
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>>174114152
>You're not fooling anyone, circlejerk child.

Typical reddit "divide and conquer" tactic
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>>174113476
Watching streamers, making entitled applications for 4chan and calling people out? This is really something I wouldn't expect to see.
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>>174114319
It'll be tier 1 after the Shadow/Dragon nerfs
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>>174113950
blood marry
enhanced baphomet azazel+belphegor/memedealer
Good luck~
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>>174113994
I want to ding her with my dong.
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>>174113839
Angel crusher is mai waifu for laifu

>>174114070
Well is a basic, you can't
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>>174114319
Sword can't be t1 if it got no heals.
>>
>>174113950
Enhanced Baphomet pulls Azazel, then combo Azazel with Laura and some burn damage like Razory, Ambling Wraith or Bloodfed Flowerbed.
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>>174114070
>tfw vialed ta-g
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>>174114406

>A 4chan user can't do this, and this and this

This is why so many generals become stagnant after awhile, it's the same posts or types of posts regurgitated and recycled over and over. If a reply is bad, no one's just gonna reply to it at worst, it's gonna bring up some short discussion of a couple posts in one thread.
>>
>DE has Olivia for 100/1000 reward
>RoB has Bahamut
>ToG has Seer's Globe

This should be it, right? No one wants animated Zeus anyway.
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post more of these!
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>>174114414
These are so cute, where can I get all of them?
>>
Anyone got any good ai cheesing decks for elite 2?
I need to get my hands on that gold.
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>>174114743
https://twitter.com/i/moments/782866268202291200
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>>174114665
>reddit spacing
>twitch babby
Kill yourself.
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>>174114319
you mean we're going back to old meta?
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need a concede: 39284

Thanks!
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>>174112002
i like bakabaka
he's the one who convinced me to play this shit game
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>>174114887
thank you!
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>>174114829
Play aggro or pepecraft. Elite2 doesnt use board clears that much
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>>174114759
yabeline tw/Stickers_Data.php?Number=8371

here
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What's this game Tunnel Trogg?
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>>174104834
>Bait the themis with a pucewyrm
>He takes it
>Angel crusher drop
>Zell-Pucewyrm
>Have Dorke and Grimnir's for mopup
Hnnnnng. IT'S COMING TOGETHER. IT'S COMING!
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>>174114995
ty shadow-chan
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ToG killed this game. What the fuck?
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>>174115082
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>>174115190
t.rune cancer
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>>174115093
There is none. The closest would be shadow reaper
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>>174114887
I would play it.
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>>174115121
Any Zell Angelcrusher finishers?
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I will never get a curve like this again, will I?
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>>174114743

Ok, hope you enjoy
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>>174115190
Well, SV isn't supposed to last long past turn 10. I think the bullshit cards are for this end.
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>>174115093
We don't have an overload mechanic. I guess Rahab would be the closest

https://shadowverse-portal.com/card/104431030
Rahab
Ward.
At the end of your turn, gain +1/+0 for each of your remaining play point orbs.

>>174115435
I haven't played it since RoB so not yet. Hoping to get some. I only have 2 angel crushers so it's a little whack since I mill about 3/4 of my deck by t7/8 on average
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took a 2 week break to let the meta settle and keep from burnout, now I want to start playing again really bad. mission accomplished!

goodnight bloodkin!
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>>174115093
Shadowverse has no anti-ramp mechanics
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>>174114949
"Reddit Spacing"
lmao you Reddit fags really know all about Reddit
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>>174115618
Can't take breaks dude, it's a pack a day you're losing
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how cancerous is kys blood?
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>>174115702
the day a game becomes a job you "have" to play every day is the day you need a break
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>>174115735
Imagine aggro shadow but without dragon ramp to jump into lategame by abusing vengeance
You think you can win because he is at 10 hp but you could not be more wrong. If you dont play control you will 100% lose
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>>174115735
vampires are immortal being so they don't have cancer
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>>174115905
are you single?
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>>174115802
You aren't an arena master. You're not gonna make up that time.

>>174115735
Pretty bad. <=10 hp will never feel further away than it is on their timer
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>>174115802
there's no problem with jobs only lazy and unhappy people complain about it
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>>174115735
i've yet to lose to it so i think the deck is shit but i'm a control cuck.
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>bored
>make a jank candelabra grail deck
>don't even have all the gold removal cards yet since i don't really play haven much and im new
>queue into a shitton wallet dragons carrying 3x lightning blasts, saha luci baha whatever, the snake that heals on death for whatever reason
>constanly get them super low before they asspull retarded healing with sibyl/luci/ouro
>they all spam emotes as if saha baha zell for T H I R T E E N D A M A G E is skillfull
>i don't even care about losing with my shitty cobbled together deck, it's just the eight billion vial deck abusing ridiculous multitool cards and they NEVER emote once in the game until it's 100% certain that I'm going to lose, then it's BMspam forever
that's it, i'm crafting all the banishcaust cards. you could have prevented this
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>>174115802
This desu. I took the day off yesterday and came back full of energy!
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>>174115735
9. Kyssing themselves to 10 and OTK'g or healing up with low cost powered spells or followers isn't a risk nor brings real disadvantage. Vengeance is truly something else.
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>>174114759
There's a link in the OP pastebin that includes the first bunch of stickers as well.
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>>174115563
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>>174116303
>he thinks a couple banish cards will save him
Their entire deck is made up of value and they can just banish you back
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How do I play Aegis?
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>have 5 things on board
>havencuck's tribunal hits the one thing you need to win next turn
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>>174116565
tenderly
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>>174116565
>buy pretty cosmetics and a miniskirt
>get somewhat fit and slim
>apply cosmetics and cute attire to go with skirt
>get on your knees
>suck old man dick
Done.
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>>174116479
It's not even about winning anymore. This deck will have no wincon. Only removals. Well maybe I'll put an Aegis in it- wait, is this how people become Aegistards?
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>>174116770
PLAY AEGIS
DO IT FOR THE OLD HAG
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>at 13 hp
>rampfag plays ouroboro and hits face
What do you even do at this point? You cant kill ouroboro because he'll heal infinitely but you lose if you dont kill it because he can just hit face
Wards dont work since he can just remove it with sahabahamut/literally anything

Fuck dragoncraft
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>>174116986
grow up luna
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>>174116986
Just Odin bro AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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>>174116986
Turn him into a snowman.
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>>174117148

Has anyone even tried that out, or is it just that crafts have their own inclass answers?
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>>174116303
Don't take it personally. haven spent 3 metas banishing 6 pentillion inferno dragons. There's nobody we hated more than haven
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>>174117115
Banish/transform card for Shadow when
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>>174117232
Mostly inclass answer, like say forest has Lily, Rune has petrification, Dragon has lightning blast, Haven has Acolytes light, sword has...nothing, and blood also has nothing....
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>>174117232
running odin is suicide in this shadow meta. forest gets away with running lily because she's good a good 2 drop, hag has enough banishes to make things work, but other classes like blood and sword can't do shit.
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>>174117161
hey dere qt is that a spikey bra or are you just glad to see me?
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>>174117232
Orouboros is not a badly designed card
It's 8 PP - same as Odin
But dragon can be there earlier, like 3t earlier than you. And you can't do shit against it if you don't have low-cost transforms/banishes
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>>174117148
>>174117161
>he plays another one or just does the retarded 2 fucking pp stormcocksucker along with saha
What now?
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>>174117272
>haven spent 3 metas banishing 6 pentillion inferno dragons
You mean 10 quadrillion Aielas.
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Need a concede 98720
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It's me!

Vania.
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>>174117560
KJTHNISGIBGIABGIAB

NEVER FORGET
NEVER FORGIVE
OUR TIME IS NOW HAG! THE DAY OF THE ROPE HAS ARRIVED!
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>>174117583
what anime? is this eromanga sensei?
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>>174117583
Thanks Vampy
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>>174117548
You concede and play shadow.
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>>174104834
Give me your dankest tempo bats list to meme with /svg/. I want them to tremble in the face of the night horde
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I jave a need for a concede
61204
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>>174117770
Yes.
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>>174117518
I am waiting for a neutral Elta that prevents last words
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>>174117861
Thanks nep
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What should I change in this kys list? I haven't been having much success with it
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shit. when did pheonix roost become literally broken?
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>>174118125
-2 Baphomet
-2 Imp Lancer
+3 Diabolic Drain
+1 Meme Dealer
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>>174118125
less imp lancers more yurius
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>>174118308
It has 3 drains already
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>>174118135
Something about Roost and Gawain interaction crashes the game.
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nerf Yurius
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>>174116952
I'M GONNA DO IT MAN. FUCK FUN, IT'S ONLY AEGIS BANISHCAUST FROM HERE ON OUT
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>>174118390
hungering horde then
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>>174118135
April 2
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>>174118135
In the news post where they told you he's parked
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>>174118125
Remove lancer and baphomets and max out laura and dealer + some hordes
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>>174118425
>opponent has 2 Yurius out
>only option in my hand is Floral evolve or pass
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3 week card changes but you will only get 70% of the total vials.
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Requesting a Seraph Haven deck for this expansion.
plz gib
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>>174118608
I still lost this game though.
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>>174118608
People still play floral lancer?
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So, I am a new player. Was wondering what the best method is to collecting enough cards to make a good deck.
I opened all my free packs and feel jipped because my friend got 5 legendaries and I got 1.
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at least kys is fun and cool.
but my two best friends tried to kts this
year
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>>174119305
Reroll
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>>174119305
Did you reroll? If you're just starting, you might as well reroll so that you could start off with a decent set of legos.
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>>174119294
Not much of a choice not to until Sword gets a real draw engine

>>174119305
Well because you're such a GOOD boy, you already read what you should fucking do about 1 fucking lego you stupid fucktwat. I'll give you the advice you want, stop now. You're a fucking idiot and you're only going to hurt yourself in Shadowverse. p.s. The rate is 1 lego/9 packs, 1 gold/3 packs.
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>>174119294
Pairs really well with Luminous Mage

>>174119328
they should try harder to get sick win streaks like this
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>>174119242
use your brain anon kys was made with effort
>>174119305
read the op about re roll in 3 hours you can get 4 months of grind
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>just got killed by deathly tyrant for the second today and I've barely played
what the actual fuck did someone do to get this trend going?
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>lose because you softlock your board with 1/1 skellies against forte

go back to banner sword lul
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>>174119683
Tyrant's better than ever, it's just underplayed because the bandwagon kiddies just chase the free wins with their spoonfed lists
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>>174119683
Not a trend you're just unlucky. Rage on little sperg.
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>>174119294
Midrange Sword is nothing but cards that go face, or fill the board. The deck got nothing this expansion, and it's still playable. It's fucking dumb and I love it.
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https://www.openrec.tv/live/N5IWy4Fb8yB

38k master point player doing a new mid blood build.
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>>174119370
>>174119420
Hmm, to reroll I would need to make another steam account. I guess I might as well get the phone version and reroll on that then.
Thanks mates.
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What craft is supposed to be the anti-dragon? We know that the game is balanced around the two-deck tournament format, so things like Haven sniping Shadow is intentional, but I'm having understanding what the guideline is for playing against Dragon other than just drawing better.
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>>174119705
>tfw we'll never get an uncapped board
There's enough board clear, thick wards, and there's bahamut, set my niggas free. I need to build to 3 ironwrought fortresses and drop 2 fearless banneret's and a pompous princess for 9 bodies from hand
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Eris is young and fertile!
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>>174119897
He's zooming in on pixels to try and determine whether a win streak was shopped or not?
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>>174119897
>exposing a winstreak fraud
lmfao
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>>174120124
>ywn drop your 9 month amulet inside her
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>>174120223
Already lightning blasted it to the shadow realm
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64601 need a concede please friends
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The real scary thing about this meta is the bullshit that will inevitably be introduced in order to "remedy" the shitty class balance. Haven needed a literally unremovable follower to compete with dragon as a control archetype. Can you imagine what control sword will need to compete with dragon and haven?
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>>174120473
ty forestbro
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>>174119983
KYS Blood can bypass dragon's tools and one shot them, forest can do the same, but slower.
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So any suggestions for rounding off my SC aggro deck?

I can't create more rabbit necromancers because the only one I have is animated.

I don't have any Shadow Reapers or Dance of Death.
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Beautiful, powerful and cute to booot~~~

Haha! I'll blow you away!

Running away is OK!
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>>174120768
Craft reapers then?
Craft DoD then?
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what weeb music should i listen to when playing shadowverse. need something that gives me power
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>>174119897
What's his deck? Seems pretty good
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>>174120857
>Haha! I'll blow you~
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>>174120768
>I can't create more rabbit necromancers because the only one I have is animated.
How new are you?
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>>174120867
I can craft cards I don't have? I didn't know that.
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>>174120768
Needs some Reapers indeed, more important than DoDs
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>Just started
>My experienced friend told me to reroll because I didn't get much good stuff
>Explains it to me and it feels like cheating
I am morally conflicted.
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>>174120870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4f0ocneHVs

>>174120768
Hit create cards, click the non-animated rabbit
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>>174120921
Yeah there should be a create cards tab
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>>174120871
From his twitter.
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>>174120964
The way they designed the game was to allow easy rerolling for a reason.
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>>174120990
S E X Y
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>>174120990
>No dark summoner
Dropped
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>>174120904
Gujira really makes people gay
>>174120921
Main menu>Cards>Create Cards
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>>174107318
Yea, like levi, 3-4pp for crimson.
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I think this is the best reroll i ever get. Which one is safe to liquefy?
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>>174120964
Why on earth would you not reroll to get 6-8+ legos when you're going to be lucky to get 1 lego per week after you finish up the starter shit? why god why would someone be that fucking stupid?
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>6th 150-200 vial pack on a row
One day I'll be able to make something. One day.
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>>174120857
Race traitors need to go
>haha i'm such an adventurer!
>w-what do you mean i hang around g-goblins?! s-shes cute!
>>
>>174121164
Those 4 animated are easy 10k vials
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>>174121164
>Two animated legos to vial
damn jelly
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>>174121164
>Almost useless
Alexander, Zirnitra
>Niche as fuck
Mary, Dominator, Pascale, Gawain
>Kinda useful
Daria, Seraph
>Useful
Saha, Ouro
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>>174121164
The yellow text on the card will let people know a card is animated, no edits needed.
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>>174121247
Alexander is worth saving in my opinion.
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>>174121164
>liquefying legos
when will this meme stop. its not like you need the perfect netdeck to go through the early ranks.
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>>174121190
I know it makes logical sense, it just feels like cheating is all.
I am still gonna do it, but it feels like I am doing something wrong.
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>>174121164
Yeah that's above rate. Ouroboros is meta, seraph is meta, sahaquiel is meta, daria is beta. Everything else but zirnitra have decks and zirnitra is solid until you fill out your library.

If you need vials, read up on arena and grind it out instead of destroying good cards for a garbage amount of vials. Starter shit in a sec
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>>174121164
pls post webm of beat dominator
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>>174121164

Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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>>174121320
if there was something wrong with it they'd make everyone start with the same thing instead of giving everyone a bunch of packs at the start
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>>174120980
>>174121091
Well fuck me. Thanks.

>>174120904
Pretty new apparently.
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>>174121164
Liquefy Beast Bominator and Zinitra, literally useless and powercreeped to oblivion. Keep the rest.
This is a really good pull
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>>174121202
In all seriousness, how can Goblin Princess or female goblin look much more acceptable than male goblin?
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>>174121307
Nope, his ability seems awesome but not going face isn't what sword wants. Even Control Sword can't find space for him
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>>174121320
They're 1.5 fucking percent drop rate.You're not upending god's plan. You're not snatching a kfc sandwich from a starving african boy's hand. There's just you, another short text entry for a f2p account entry in a server.
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>>174121320
dont ever play mobages.
>>
>Lost 8 games in a row as kys blood

help what am I doing wrong
>>
>>174107182
Grimnir is too niche. 2/3 ward for 3pp is just good by itself, even 4 dmg make him op but 4 face dmg is too much. There are not many useful things to hit face, most of them cost a lot and gimp your deck, like demon strike, dance of death. Just imagine, 2/3 ward = 3pp, demonic strike for JUST 3 dmg is 4pp = 7pp, so grimnir got board clear for 3pp and +1 dmg to face and all of that in one card. That's insane. Ans the most insane thing - he's a good addition to ramp, cause of their pp advantage. Cygames should at least restrict him to 10+ turn or remove face dmg completely, that's ridiculous card even without face dmg.
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>>174121164
Like all of those animated ones. 10k starting vials is pretty fucking decent though.
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>>174120904
>draw a girl
>slap a penis on her and remove boobs
>call it a boy
Why is this allowed?
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>>174121580
He's the next soul dealer. I can feel it in my bones.
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>>174121706
you're supposed to get their hp to 0, not yours
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>>174108578
Use this deck.
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>>174121706
Same. Could be because I only have 2 Meme Peddlers.
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>>174121831
He's been coming back with Durandal and Arriet
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>>174121714
That is the opposite of what niche means.
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>>174121827
because it feels good
>>174121885
>don't have enough to make this yet
kms
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>>174121706
Stop getting matched against Shadow :^)
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>>174121827
what do you think about this boy
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>>174122027

Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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>>174121560
Sexual dimorphism. Also, it is canon that goblin females consider male goblins ugly so they mate with humans instead.
http://rageofbahamut.wikia.com/wiki/Goblin_Sorcerer
>How useless can you be? Maybe I should find a human man who is stronger, smarter, and more reliable than you. Using this magic of temptation should do the trick...
>We've finally reached the surface! Time to find a cute and handsome man to take care of me. Hm? Are you complaining? Who cares what my motivations are, you're not even fit to lick the tip of my boot.
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>>174122227
That's a fake loli, not a boy.
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>>174122227
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>>174122351
im a girl
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>>174122253
To add, you can also just use an emulator and reroll 20 accounts to play 20 matches with yourself if you can't find enough people, or are just socially anxious for some reason
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>>174121908
KYS blood needs 6 activators to be consistent. If you're running only 2 dealers you're destroying the consistency of the deck
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This is a cute girl.
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>>174122321
>goblins rape human females
>gets cucked by human males in return What a vicious cycle
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I just started, should I run through all the story missions first or does something else take priority?
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>>174122597
Please do not post pictures of me
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>>174122698
You should reroll first.
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>>174122321
>goblin females consider male goblins ugly so they mate with humans instead
no wonder they kidnap and rape human girls
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>>174122698
Have you finished rolling all the free packs?
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>>174122698
>>174122253
Reroll if your pull is trash, do the private missions quest against 20 different players without conceding for another 20 packs to give you more silvers to use.
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need a concede 77025
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Need concede plz
15656
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>ranked
>shadow
>shadow
>dragon
>unranked
>dragon
>dragon
>shadow

simply ebin.
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>>174122702
post tummy cutie :3
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>>174122878
>>174122879
Now kiss
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>>174122878
>>174122879
nerds
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>>174122878
Let's trade concedes >>174122879
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>>174122597
But that's a vampire (male).
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>>174122971
sure you host
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Cancer of Meta Past: Healing Haven
Cancer of Meta Present: Healing Dragon
Cancer of Meta Yet to Come: Healing Forest
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>>174122973
that's a very puffy vulva
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>>174122027
There's a cheaper and arguably more effective neutral deck for you to do your dailies. The last 3 slots are 1x Olivia and 2x Israfil, which you should consider as 3 free slots. Gilgamesh/Imperial Mammoths should be fine in those slots, Earthshock Ogre is quite nice too, if you managed to pull those.
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>>174122932
>>174122953
>>174122971
I fucking left to join his lobby too, god fucking dammit.

Just join this one and we go back to back.
33852
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what are the most important cards for aggro shadow

Im still missing two soulsquasher and reaper and 1 cerb and howl
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>>174122385
SAN DIEGO
A
N

D
I
E
G
O
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>>174123110

get the reaper, then the cerb, then the howl, then squash
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>>174122910
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>>174123110
You need reaper most. Then Howl if aggro. Cerb can be replaced with Goblin Princess or Soulhungry Wraith for the time being. Soulsquasher will be the last cards to get.
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>>174123110
Phantom Howls, Cerberus, Shadow Reapers, Prince Catacomb, Orthrus
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>>174123105
thanks mate
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>>174123037
What about Healing Rune?
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Who would have thought that fucking Meme Dealer is Blood's savior.
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I was 4 wins going for 5 but FUCK shadow this class is so bullshit in take 2.

He was chunking me down but I managed to save my last evo to clear his board and get a huge ward, and of course the fucker drops lord of the flies and gets the bane rush minion. It all spiraled downhill from there.
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>>174122321
>/svg/ will insist this is not an elf rape baby
You goddamn gobu rape apologists
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>>174121287
>>174121304
>>174121329
>>174121451
>>174121546
thanks, i will keep them in mind.

>>174121247
>>174121269
>>174121318
>>174121783
i am going to finish all story mode first and then liquefy them.

>>174121360
my AMD ReLive seems not functioning. i will upload it later.
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>>174123360
jk I won
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>dshift is bad
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I'M LEAVING, HUMPH!
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>>174123435
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>>174123037
Forest's defensive options are fucking insane right now

Except no one knows about it because literally no one plays forest
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>>174123430
>>174123360
>"FUCK shadow this class is so bullshit in take 2."
>playing sword
you weren't fooling anyone.
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>>174123552
Wot? sword is shit. Shadow and dragon are the best.
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>>174122321
>Being in bed with a goblin
>Ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kAEoCHANYY
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>4pp 6/5 storm
Even Albert isn't this bad. Who actually think Dark General is a balanced card?
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>>174123625
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>>174123376
>>174122321
Why don't the male goblins just tie the females up and rape them?
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>>174123691
>Floral in take 2
anon...
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>>174122906
Leave us.
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What are the best cards to look for in a shadowcraft reroll?
Cerberus and Demonlord?
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>>174123730
>being this dense
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>>174123713

They use magic and shit. You don't wanna tangle with that.
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>>174123775
bingo. Go for Nep too if you want. I love control decks, so I do my best to use her. She's not the best right now since the Aggro and Mid Shadow decks outshine by a mile, but there's a good chance of her becoming a staple next expansion because that's how Shadow is.
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>>174123435
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>>174123775
For legendaries, yes.
There is also Reaper, Howl and Soulsquasher for golds, but the legos are more important since you can just craft those.
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>>174123356
Post list.
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How's my suicidal pals doing?
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>>174123775
>Legendaries
Cerb, Eachtar

>Golds
Reaper, Death's Breath, Phantom Howl, Thane, Soulsquasher
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>craft meme dealers for kys blood
>try it in unranked
>lose 5 times in a row

i want my vials back.
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So why do Shadowverse and Hearthstone players argue so much? I like both.
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>>174123775
Cerb is top priority since she goes in almost everything. Eachtar is very strong but he's only core in Midrange and a tech in Aggro.
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>>174123638
>8PP 8 storm dmg across two cards
vs
>9pp 6 storm damaged and can't be damaged until the end of the turn

Nah, you're wrong.
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>>174123926
WHENS STREET FIGHTER

YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE STREET FIGHTER CYGAMES
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>>174124110
>Bronze vs fucking Leggo
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>>174123964
Man, I certainly underestimated Airjammer. Who would have think that putting two 2-drops will generate such tempo?

Carrier has arrived!
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>>174124180
Cards are not balanced based on rarity.
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>>174123964
I'm like 3W-14L tonight

I don't get this deck
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>>174124081
You need 3 Belphegor since she's a staple. Or maybe you are too much of a brainlet to kys.
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>>174124246
Except they are because Take Two exists
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>>174124312
i have three of her
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>>174123926
To think I thought the dictator would lose a lot too. The meta sure has been kind to Luna.
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>>174124081
kys blood is a thinking mans deck
No kids allowed.
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>>174124268
Killing yourself take skills, something bandwagoners can't easily acquire.
>>174124372
The later, then.
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I wanna cry everytime I see this.
How are you supposed to switch accounts on pc now? I can't seem to do it anymore, I barely have any cards on this shitty account.
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>>174124367
Take Two balancing is a joke.
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>>174124367
Explain Zombie Party.
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>>174124509
Doesn't change the fact that they distribute power to cards based on their rarity because of limited formats

Other card games do the exact same thing
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>>174124496
I bet you listened to some guys on steam who told you to vial all of your blood cards.
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>>174124581
I didn't.
I vialed all of my blood and forest cards because I fucking hated the classes and needed vials for other decks.
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>>174124496
>Not even a single Yurius and Blood Wolf

You smell like a bandwagoner.
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>>174124632
What a dumbass
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>>174124496
How come you don;t even have Blood Wolf and Yurius.
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>>174124632
Tell me where the vampire bit you.
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>>174124632
>Vialing all the cards in a craft
>ever

You deserve this
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>>174124575
The only reason they distribute power to cards based on rarity is to make you buy more packs, cards balancing be damned.
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>>174123638
Tyrant's t6 15. t7 15 through ward, t8 17 through ward
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>>174124739
i wonder
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>>1741247632
I did it for haven, no regrets
underrated neutralcraft for dailies works too
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>>174124496
>yurius
>0
?
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>>174124739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Q6AwrGUkQ
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>>174124473
>later

I'm sure your brain is working at full capacity
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>>174124367
Yes, T2 is in the game. But Cygames mentioned before that cards are not balanced based on rarity. If that was the case cards such as Khawy, Goblin Princess, Orthrus, EPM, Clarke, Flame Destroyer, Cudgel, Floral Fencer, Temple Defender, Aria, Fervor amongst others wouldn't be powerhouses while only being silvers. Don't delude yourself thinking the focus of this game is T2, "balacing" in T2 is an afterthought.

It works more like: They throw some cards that would be nice in T2 but kinda me in constructed and that's about it.
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>>174124496
Add/create password to your new SV account then link it to your steam SV. Just be sure to also make a password to your old ones if you want to switch and copy your ID numbers.
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>>174124780
It's a bit of both
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>>174124473
do you run balphegors for guaranteed dealer draw?
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>>174124496
>How are you supposed to switch accounts on pc now? I can't seem to do it anymore, I barely have any cards on this shitty account.

I had to use a software that recovers deleted files to grab SaveDataDeleter.exe back on the very day they removed it and now I have it stored somewhere outside of the Shadowverse folder
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>>174124961
I run two Baphomet. 3 Meme Dealer is overkill. Three Baphomet would mean one will be a useless 2 drop and mess with Airjammer. It isn't as consistent for turn 4 vengeance but it will have less chance to screw you in the ass.
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>>174124973
That wasn't how I did it back then, can you upload the file somewhere and tell me how to use it?
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>retarded netdeckers are trying kys blood now

The deck takes skill unlike ungashadow. Don't bother crafting Soul Dealers if you are too retarded to play it.
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>>174124473
post dick
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>play aggro shadow, get matched with dragon 3 times in a row
>switch to aggro sword, brick hard
>switch to aegis, aggro shadow
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DO MY DAILIES
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>>174124205
>Lecia and Walfrid have carriers in their card art.
>Only demonic carrier gets to see play.
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>>174125175
>play aggro shadow, get matched with dragon 3 times in a row
>complaining about good match up

????
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>kys players thinking they're some kind of SV geniuses that never netdeck when all they did was copy the #1 JP masters player before other people did
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>>174125175
>>play aggro shadow, get matched with dragon 3 times in a row
And this is a problem because... ?
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>>174125175
just go first, keep 3 and draw answers as needed
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>>174125274
because salamander's breath any time I had a remotely good board?
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>>174125140
Are you sure you have the brain capacity to play a deck as sophisticated as KYS blood?
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>>174125349
ever heard about playing around board wipes?
>>
And of course my favorite meme:
>themis out of a loaded catacomb board
>he plays catacomb the next turn
This isn't my night
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>Beast
>Beast
>Beast
>Catacomb
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>>174125421
Ah, you mean doing nothing the whole game?
>>174125429
never get them together, brick every damn time
NOW ITS FUCKING FROG SWORD REEEEEEEEE
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>>174125123
A different anon was kind enough to upload a copy when this happened for another anon who needed it.

Here's the link dude: https://mega.nz/#!JFAAWBja!wAuTFtU3s56AbVzUm3uiAP4VPPPxccLpCUcbui-nl8E

When you say on PC, you're using Steam, right? Just double click it before you open Shadowverse on the Steam account you want to access
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>>174125424
Just forbidden bro
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>>174125515
>Ah, you mean doing nothing the whole game?
I would call you stupid, but it feels like it would be a compliment here. Look, just be careful if you think your opponent is ready/near board clear turns. You don't need to play your hand every turn, even as aggro.
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>>174125664
>Play around the board clear
>They notice this so they outskill you by ramping further and/or healing that turn instead
>>
The only meaningful nerfs will have to be Catacomb and Othrus getting gutted (Cata to 4, Orth effect is evo) or hitting a staple of the deck (Cerb). Nothing else will hits Shadow, unless you nerf all of Haven's other bad match ups so they can go 100% in anti Shadow techs. This is Cygames we're talking about, so cards with rarity higher than silver are never getting hit again after Homecoming. Star those Catacombs and Orthrus. Dragon only needs Zell removed from the game so that it actually loses against combo, as a control deck should.
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>>174125532
Thank you so much!
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>>174125884
Orthrus isnt even that good shitlord. Rank 1 master player doesnt even consider it better than necroassassin.
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>>174125884

>Dragon can't just storm ramp

If anything, Zell nerf pushing people away from the saha package would actually push their winrate up.
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>>174125884
>Orthrus needs to be gutted further

Make her a 3/3 to 5/5 and we will talk.
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>>174124473
I fucking hate Elf so god damn much. Just fucking remove roach from the game already. It's fucking impossible for Blood to ever be good with that card existing.
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>>174125664
You mean going slowly on a deck that's full of low damage minions on a deck that is pretty much untouchable past turn 7? It's a bad fucking matchup. Especially when you consistently brick across every class and deck
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This game has fewer decisions than hearthstone.

The reduced healthpool and increased bullshit-ness of legends really takes away from the game.
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>>174126087
stfu nigger if forest goes first and you pull that bullshit spider into devil of vengance into belph we auto lose you nigger
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>>174126097
>It's a bad fucking matchup
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>>174126097
>You mean going slowly
No
>on a deck that is pretty much untouchable past turn 7?
It should not get this far.
>Especially when you consistently brick across every class and deck
Why is this even here?
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>>174125884
I thought Ramp was its own archetype instead of something that gets filed under the Aggro/Control/Combo triangle.
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>>174126117
Nope, Hearthstone has literally 0 decision making. The game is reaching critical mass of discover random bullshit cards being constructed viable, on top of them dominating arena.

Shadowverse' problem is the Cygames' insistence the game ends on turn 10. Why not just fucking make it so the player with less health automatically loses on the 10th turn? They're trying their absolute best to make aggro and combo the best archetypes for the casuals, without pissing off control whales enough to make them leave.
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>>174126267
It is, but /svg/ is a bunch of fucking retards that go as far as classifying Storm Haven as aggro.
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>>174121360
here
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>>174126267
Ramp is basically a combo deck where the combo is ramp spells + big things

It falls into the rock paper scissors triangle where it beats control but loses to aggro

except now dragon doesn't lose to most aggro decks either
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>>174126316
Discover is literal decision making. How retarded are you?
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>>174126316
>>174126434
you know i actually like the discover mechanic in HS as long as you can't discover bullshit outside your class, i think cards like shadow visions are well designed
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>>174126027
You're welcome
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I haven't played for a week. Did I miss the rise of some weird new spicy Aggro Forest?

This is at 40k ranked. I managed to stabilize at around 4 HP left and win due to Orthrus, Orthrus, Cerberus, Eachtar to stablize board, but it was rough.
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Give me your best KYS Blood lists!
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>>174126746
It was posted at least 3 times in the last thread
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>>174126328
I wish all crafts had a decent aggro deck build for fast-acting and fast-thinking people like me
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>>174126434
>The 3 cards selected are randomly with a higher chance of class
>Bullshit discover from your opponent's class effects allowing otherwise impossible plays that can't be predicted
All this, on top of the 100% random card generators like Cabalist Tome, Swashburglar (absolutely fucking broken), Thoughtsteal etc..

The only balanced RNG discover card without ridiculous variance is the new Paladin's 2/2 Murloc. It only discovers Paladin secrets, so it actually offers some fucking counterplay.

>>174126606
They're not well designed though. Almost every Rogue discover breaks the balance by giving you answers otherwise impossible to obtain from your class. Also, the ever fun 3, 4, or even fucking 5 Ice Blocks and freeze effects thanks to 6 random discover/card generation mages run.
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>>174126741

I've seen it before on /svg/ but, it's not a common build that's been broadcasted to the general community.
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>>174126949
would look better with a higher quality ouro head
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>>174126741
When your bullshit tier 0 class has 60% win rate against other classes, people are forced to play bullshit like that. It's same reason why Dragon almost always ended up being just aggro Dragon in legend, instead of storm. Classes with bad/unwinnable match up with the most played/top class have to make sacrifices like that.
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>>174126267
aggro essentially means "presenting threats, following your own gameplan", ramp dragon is obviously this. casting dragon oracle is an aggressive action because it implies bigger threats to hit the board soon.

control means "you have no threats, you only interact with the opponent". by definition, a 100% control deck can't win by itself, it just can't lose and waits for the opponent to concede, mill itself or for the timer to run out. this is why some wincon is tucked into it and it's then called "control with combo finish"

combo means that the game is decided the moment the combo is initiated, no matter what state the game is in. combos usually refer to loops that can output an abundance of damage and massively overkill, but are generally an all-in action that spell game over if somehow interrupted mid-sequence. shadowverse does not have this, playing forte+urd or sequencing into an atony is not combo.

these terms have been butchered to hell and back since hearthstone.
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>>174126746
Murder them all funpai
>>
do i just concede to haven as sword if it goes past turn 9?
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>>174126987
I'd try my hand at it if I had the original image, but reverse searching it just brings up a bunch of ISIS memes.
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>My deck is half metal as fuck skeletons and half concerning lolis
The artstyle of this game is strangely inconsistent.
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>>174126824

>Heartstone
-Discover mechanic forces a decision from players
-Hero power offers the tradeoff between value and tempo
-Increased healthpool makes going face much riskier
-Empty board burst is much lower relative to healthpool size

>Shadowverse
-Aggro decks can spend entire matches going face
-Burst damage ranges from 50% to 100% of the opponents health and every class has some bullshit version of it
-Matches are decided more by how your on curve cards match up against opposing on curve cards

Heathstone wins, and that is pretty fucking sad, because hearthstone sucks ass.
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>>174127114
>casting dragon oracle is an aggressive action because it implies bigger threats to hit the board soon.
Yeah no.

You're either the beatdown or you aren't, and against most decks dragon is not the beatdown
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>>174127139
What even is this
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>>174127264
>Welcome to bloodcraft, have you received your complimentary little girl?
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>>174127356
Fuck off, Ben.
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>>174127356
>Discover
>Force a decision
>Good
Just change it to search mechanic. Stupid RNG choice.
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>>174127356
>your on curve cards match up against opposing on curve cards
Are any card games not like this? Genuinely curious, I'm really sick of this shit.
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>>174127460
memes I guess
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>Need to do rerolls
>Don't know what class to go for
I like the idea of Shadow because skeletons are cool as shit, but Blood looks fun. Blood also looks hard because it's about killing yourself. And the Runecraft looks easy to reroll for.
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>>174127460
kys blood. Face is the place my man
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>>174127685

You could try casual multiplayer EDH in magic the gathering. The game is more about politics and how threatening people perceive you.
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>>174127692
Rune is in a rough spot right now. Shadow or blood will have a much easier time climbing, especially the former.

Look for cerbs and hectors for shadow, belphegors and soul dealers for blood but focus on belphegors.
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>>174127692
You can make a control blood deck, but kys blood is a fresh and new deck using TOG cards.
It's really not that hard. You learn fast with it, because you'll be screaming at the screen when you die to the randomest fucking shit like a tyrant brick.
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>>174127692

The only 2 decks worth playing right now are midrange shadow and ramp dragoncraft. You will not even come close to getting ramp dragoncraft through rerolls, so go for shadow.
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>>174127692
It doesn't matter. Just try to get some core cards and work on your dailies.
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>>174120990
>physically no draw power whatsoever outside of Baph tutoring
>18 2-drops

This looks like it'd just brick from running out of shit to play, and I question the 3 Matriarchs as well, but he automatically gets a pass for including animated bestgirl
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Evolve is a cool mechanic. It either makes cool monsters into cooler monsters or hot anime tiddies into hotter anime-er tiddiers
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>>174127685
that "curve" as you know it doesn't really exist the same way in MtG. Decks exist that just don't even play on their own turn and the goal is to pass to the opponent with mana up and interaction in hand.
Only problem is that MtG is a massive bitch to get into by yourself.
You could check out Eternal on steam. It also features interaction during the opponents turn which throws the whole "1234 curve" idea out the window.
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>>174126824
A lot of people including big streamers feel like discover would be fine if all discovered cards were revealed to your opponent. It offers them counterplay but also doesn't completely get rid of the topdeck/one-way-out moments that T5 loves to push.

SV's limited board area of five spaces works both for an against it as far as decision making goes. For in the sense that it you have to consider your board size a lot more, especially with cards like roach or howl, but against in the sense that board states have a lower ceiling as to how complex they can get.

The biggest thing I think holding SV back is the handholding for spells, very few removal spells let you target yourself or your own followers. Yes those kinds of situations are very fringe but they are also the ones less skilled players won't consider.
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>>174128170
With the exception of Mage of Nightfall
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>>174127356
>Hearthstone
-Steal and cross discover mechanics blurs the line between classes that are already struggling with maintaining an identity due to how similar they are
-Abundance of RNG lessens the impact of the players skill and decision making on the game
>Increased stats and lack of viable healing renders the total healthpool irrelevant
-Weak and efficient removal compared to the minions makes empty boards a dream scenario

Hearthstone JUST came out of its worst meta, dominated entirely by aggro decks, you actually have the nerve to accuse Shadowverse of being aggro cancer? We're talking about Hearthstone here, you know, the game that made Undertaker Hunter, mech mage, Blood Imp Zoo, secret Paladin.

Meanwhile, Shadowverse's top decks have always been combo or midrange. A pure aggro deck has never been the best deck in the game's history.

>>174127685
Yugioh, there's resource system, so there's no curve. This comes at the cost of literally every deck in the game playing like a combo deck though.
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>>174127356
>implying there are no otk combos in hearthstone
you serious
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>>174127685
Anything that allows you to interact with your opponent.
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>>174122321
>tfw Goblin females really are all naturally beautiful/cute and the Goblin Queen just had the misfortune to be born ugly.

At this point, there's no huge difference between female goblins and elves in terms of sexual attractiveness
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>>174128526
Doesn't exist in any of the nu CCGs. None of them fucking have instants.
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>>174128438
T5 is fucking allergic to true OTKs.

OTK warrior and hunter were both nerfed to oblivion, so was patron. Exodia mage and the priest DS/IF variants were given a pass since they were harder to assemble but if they get viable they will also get nerfed.
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>>174128287
>Find out I didn't actually uninstall kikestone, boot it up to see if there was campaign or something
>Make some kind of merloc aggro/tempo deck
>Discover mechanic fetches murloc cards I don't have yet
Honestly, I'm just incredibly erect at being able to have more than 5 minions
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>>174128563
Hearthstine has secrets at least.
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85158
Need a concede or if you need a full match just spam emotes so I can kill you
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>>174127356
forgot the most important part
>Hearthstone
>ALL games are decided on RNG
>Shadowverse
>Minimal games are decided on RNG
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>>174128070
the things i took from his stream were that the crazed executioner does fantastic against grimnir and that erinyes on t5 is still a crazy tempo swing.
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>>174128764
Secrets are amulets, literally no difference between the 2. They both cannot be interacted with outside your turn, they're both difficult to remove/interact with without triggering, and they both do absolutely nothing to fix the lack of interaction that stems from attacker choice and no instants based gameplay.
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>>174128639
With Ice Lance and Tarzan out of standard, Freeze Mage is pretty much impossible these days.

Not like Rogue cannot kill you by turn 5 anyway.
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>>174129061
>Freeze Mage is pretty much impossible these days

Have you played since ungoro? It's the strongest mage deck at the moment because as it turns out Arcanologist is fucking broken and primordial glyph gets you the cheap burn that ice lance provided.

Also freezemage isn't an otk deck. It needs to set up with alex which is pretty crucial since it gave your opponent a window to heal or play loatheb back in the day.
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>>174128819
Thank you!
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>tfw I remember when /svg/ wasn't plagued by /hsg/ shitters
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>>174129219
You're forgetting 3+ Ice Blocks a get due to le discover horse shit.
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>>174128287
>Also can summon your minions wherever the fuck you want on the board
It's so incredibly refreshing. Left to right resolution without being able to play
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>>174129061
>Freeze Mage is pretty much impossible these days.
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>>174129347
Fuck off faggot, I only went back to shitstone, because Catacomb made the game unplayable. I'm not gonna play a game decided entirely by who goes first and drops Catacomb on 3 first. Other classes don't even fucking exist, boggles my mind shitters are complaining about Dragon. Some retards keep saying KYS can out aggro, but that's only because retards dropped Howl from their list for greediest mirror techs like 3 Breath.
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>tfw I'm the only person in existence to get a shitty dragon draft in TotG Take Two

I haven't gotten a leggo in over 40 packs. I just wanted some rupies.
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>>174129347
>1 shill
>plagued
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>>174128967
They're fundamentally nothing like secrets/instants/trap cards. Secrets/instants/trap cards all help you interact with your opponents turn in meaningful ways, even more for instants.
Just because there's little ways to interact with amulets doesn't make their purpose anything like secrets/instants/trap cards, simply because those let you react to possible plays or straight up react as the play happens.
The closest thing we have to a secret right now is Durandal and another part of what makes a secrets/instants/trap cards effective is not knowing which one you're facing instead of being there on the board.
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>>174129443
>only 2 crafts are t1
What does that remind me off again...?
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>>174129454
stay gone desu
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>>174129454
>he cannot deal with the 2-drop going second
>he cannot beat a literal bone chimera over two bodies

Say they nerfed catacomb, and most go to chimera. What next?
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Need a concede for daily desu~

65163
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>>174129454
Kys Blood can't outaggro shadow worth a shit
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>>174129535
Stop being so intellectually dishonest. Secrets are nothing like instants and traps, and do nothing to alleviate the lack of interaction on your opponent's turn. They're the same as minion, it's all attacker's choice. You only choose to plop down the secret, your opponent dictates when it activates. Secrets are closers to followers like Lurching Corpse, Attendant, and Mastema, than anything remotely resembling an instant.
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>>174129602
The gap between T1 and T2 isn't as large there.
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>>174129535
If you've ever played real life magic, you'd know what a pain in the ass instants will be for both devs AND players to implement into online card games
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>>174129653
they concede after the chimera gets blacked
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>>174129653
Dumb netdeckers dont realize that prince catacomb and nerfing him does literally nothing and that the reason why it works is: they have shitty decks, orthrus is fucking retarded
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>>174129729
Thanks olivia
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>>174128287
>Playing against a rogue
>Discover RNGesus murloc lets me pick a legendary stealth murloc that summons 2 random murlocs from my deck when it kills something
>Charge murloc and fire bolt what he played the next turn
>Board is fuckhuge at this point because I just bukkake the thing with bodies and lightning rods
>Stormwind guy for a +1/+1 board
>Face is the place
>:Thinking:
>:Thinking:
>:Thinking:
>Concedes
The retarded degree of RNG is shjtass and I feel the same every time I win/lose in shadowverse because a random damage/destruction/buff hits the right/wrong guy. Earlier when I was testing out a tempo elf deck I had a 50-50 chance of hitting a 1/1 reaper or a 1/2 goblin. Guess what happened then and later.
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I have fully built Mid Shadow, Ramp(outside of a second Israfil), Forest and Vengeance Blood. Is there anything else worth building or is it time to start saving for next expansion?
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>>174129989
start saving
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>>174129653
Even playing the best board suppressing decks you struggle.
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>>174129989
Delete
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>>174129864
>only make haven slightly favorable against aggro variant but still cannot stop the board flood
Totally okay with this.

>>174129906
They were pretty wary about Orthrus. Hence the goblin's stat.

>>174130034
Because there's Zombie Party, Thane and Eachtar. At least they don't start fucking you up on turn 5 unlike daria.
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>>174130101
If you haven't killed Mid Shadow by turn 6 you've pretty much lost to be fair. They just spam board floods until something sticks and then Eachtar.
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Did Paraneko show his new Storm Haven decklist?
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>>174129989
Thats my wife you're tipping
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>>174129758
>intellectually dishonest
You must understand that something like instants just won't work well in an online card game, it's why MtGO never took off because it's boredom incarnate to deal with it like >>174129835 mentioned.
A secret counter spell still does a lot more to disrupt a combo deck that uses spells to go off than any amulets currently in the game could, not even Durandal would save you, maybe but you a turn, but that's about it.

A "secret" that would make your opponent spells/followers cost X more until the end of the turn would stop a lot of the combo shenanigans, the same way a "secret" that would make any damage dealt to your leader that turn be healed next turn would slow down aggression immensely.
Things are not as black and white as you paint them and there are viable ways to make "secrets" good in online card games, even it they're not full-on instants, because that just won't work.
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>>174130437
Your waifu is the most overated shit. You can think it's ok due to your friends but you should feel ashamed in public.
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>2 weeks into ToG meta
>there are still players who don't know how reapers work

Seriously?
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>>174130437
Your wife enjoys another mans bread. Deal with it
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>>174130861
>tfw every time you misplay and attack the other shit first out of habit
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>>174130861
Reaper is pretty much damned if you do, damned if you don't at this point.
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Can I get a quick rundown on shadowverse's terminology? What is an aggro, tempo, roach (etc.) build.
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Was trawling through the archive to find some discussion about the Cybele deck and ended up coming across a pre-expansion rating list.

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/171756307/#171757012

Oh, how stupid people in the past were.
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>>174131215
have you never played Magic: The Gathering or anything other card game?
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>brick to shit in T2
>opponent concedes after mulligan
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>>174131215
It's the same as other card games, so you can easily google search the terms. Better than someone trying to explain each one on here.
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>>174131076
>>174131108
The best you can do is make them feed it on their turn instead of helping them to do it. Though I am more baffled that many always trade into reaper last and deny them the kill.
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>>174131254
>Orthrus - 0
>Prince Catacomb - 3
>Demonlord Eachtar - 3
>Wind Reader Zell - 2
jesus christ how horrifying
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>>174131215
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>>174125349
try to keep your board with 2 3 hp minions when dragon hits 6 pp the next turn
also if u drop a shadow reaper, make sure u pre evo it and stay in ambush so they cant drop breath for free unless they want to buff your reaper to a 6/6
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>>174131254
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/171739672/#171744992
Heh
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Not going to lie though
I only play hearthstone for the tavern brawls where you dont prebuild decks
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What classes are closest to the stuff Hearthstone Rogue does? I really like that class and the whole theme of assassination, comboing, bouncing and shit. If there's more than one, even better. Tell me a bit about them, thank you.
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>>174132121
Forest, they somehow manage to always stay top tier like Rogue too. Fucking cockroaches
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>>174131806
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/171978035/#171979862
Looking back, it's interesting to see how hard people underrated Sibyl, and overrated Blood Moon plus Sneks.
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>>174132121
Definitely forest.
You flood your hand with tokens and then have a bunch of cards that have special effects that activate only when two other cards have been played that turn. Your finisher is usually a storm minion that gains attack power that's dependent on how many cards you've played that turn.
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>>174132294
People said eachtar would be medicore and that shadow would be dead. /svg/ is wrong everytime. I wonder if that anon got around to making that collage of wrongposters.
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>>174132294
Everyone knew sneks+blood moon was a meme deck since day 1
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>just returned to the game after a long-ass hiatus

I see Shadow/Dragon finally became the cancer. Could someone please show me a midrange shadow deck list?
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>>174132294
I wish Sybil didn't have the turn 5 restriction so ramp dragon would have been stage 4 cancer with this meta.
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>>174132294
>tfw you remember that post
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>>174132264
>fucking cockroaches
yep, that's arisa alright.
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>>174132121
Forest, they're almost identical. Both degenerate high rolling combo decks that rely on being as unfair as possible. They even both have a bullshit overstated 3 mana legendary that's good at all stages of the game. Imagine if that new epic (Bitterweed) had charge, that would be pretty much Forest.
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>>174132603
Glad that restriction was made. Oracle, Rahab, Fevor, Sybil is already fucking cancer enough for me.
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>>174132476
There were plenty of posts from people pre-release complaining about how x class wouldn't be able to do anything to a turn 6 20/20 board, and plenty of posts complaining that they wasted 10k+ vials on an overhyped legendary.
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53821

non-concede private match, please

2/20
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>>174133074
thanks bloodbro
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>>174133074
Still there? Tried the ID, but wasn't able to get in.
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>>174133005
Funny how atomeme is more viable than sneks
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>>174133005
I opened 3 sneks and I'm fairly happy with them. They're not great but they aren't terrible either.
Definitely not worth crafting though.
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>>174133320
already done, friend. thanks anyway!
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>>174106618
>have the cards to make every variant of Dragon
>never vialed my Soul Dealers
What now?
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>>174133891
It was just a hologram.
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Why don't people run 1 Ginger in D-Shift?
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>>174134184
>run ginger in a deck with hardly any followers
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>>174134184
Because if you're not reaching t9 against storm ramp or shadow.
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When is it acceptable to BM your opponent?
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>>174134273
>hardly any followers
>well except those that you NEED to actually win since dshift is useless without followers
Y-yeah, f-fuck followers haha
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>>174134401
When they're playing Meta and get the exact cards they need in curve to win perfectly against you, but you still pull off a victory somehow.

>>174134273
What about the obvious followers you do run that are mandatory?
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>>174134408
But those followers cost 0PP even without Ginger.
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non-concede private match 52238 ty
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>>174134401
1. If they nutdraw and you still fuck them.
2. If they're playing top tier while you aren't and you still fuck them.
3. If they're playing any variant of Rune or Haven.
4. If you topdeck lethal.
5. If you pull off any meme lethal combo of 3 cards or more.
6. If they miss lethal and you win because of it.
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>>174134401
No. Be a good rolemodel.
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>>174134401
>>174134496
>>174134668
>>174134829
How do you guys miss the most justifiable BM of all?

When they think they're winning and they BM you first.
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>Unranked match, playing as Sword against Sword
>Turn 2 he plays Unbridled Fury with 0 tokens on the board
Did I just ruin some poor Japanese salaryman's day?
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>>174134920
>>174134920
>>174134920
new thread
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>>174134931
concede, he's poor and doesnt have a sword deck
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>>174134401
The only acceptable moment is when I'm about to win against some emote spamming fag. BMing somebody just because they played a deck you didn't like is dumb.
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>>174134915
They're autistic, it doesn't mean anything while it forms a slippery slope for you.
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>>174134829
To who?
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>>174134401
All the time you beta-faggot. What are they gonna do? Look up replay history and find your name and address through that and shank you?
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>>174135189
The retarded autists BMing and the people on the fence
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