/acg/ - Armored Core General

>>174104639
Aaliyah a shit

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>>174105285
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I haven't played VD in a while and I'm wondering what weapons are good for a heavy?

Last raven balance patch update:

Had some time to get back on this week and make some progress, Testing is complete for movement speed and acceleration and I datamined the weapon stats (they're different in code from other stats, taking up different files)

Only things left to find are:
>Impact force (unlisted stat)
>Lock Type (not listed as "standard" in game files, but I think I know where to find it)
>weapon Lock Time (unlisted stat)
>lock on range
>Overboost, Hanger, and EO stats (I think EO is the same as weapon attack, I just haven't found it yet)

As long as I'm able to mess with OB/EO the rest of those can stay the same. The rest are more there for adjusting how weapons play but their core balance is still accuracy vs range vs dps and that's easy to figure out.

>>174111936

I may have asked this before, and I apologize if I did, but how would one go about implementing these improvements to Last Raven portable?

>>174113910
I'm working with portable but the PS2 versions seem to be different formatting

basically when I'm done I'll zip the changes into a patch file and players can apply that using a PPF patcher of some kind, I'll probably include the whole bundle in a new version of the LR ppsspp package, so players can get the patch file, patcher program, ppsspp, control schemes, hang workaround cheat, etc. in one file.

>>174115207
doing god's work anon.

>>174111684
Basically anything that doesn't force you into ready position.

I only played the Armored Core 2 demo on the Playstation 1 demo disc, How should I get back into this game?

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>>174120816

>>174122115
This shit really needs a update

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>>174123285
How so?

>>174115207

Does this work with the official games, or do I need a pirated copy?

Hear my words, this thread wont survive the night

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>>174126040
The three of us have to sleep sometime...

>>174127420

Just like the Armored Core series itself, death is always a step away.

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Bedtime bump, I ain't letting it die that easily

>>174125883
Yes, as long as you have a way to read/write the official disc or burn a patched copy of it that will play. I'm just issuing out a manual patch file, I think the PSP has a built-in feature to add patches to games, but I could be wrong about that.

any hope for an AC announcement this year? will FromSoft finally show the 6 of us some love?

>>174132618
Very, very, veeeeeeery slim chance at TGS. Like, maybe a screenshot of a mocked up title logo, at the very most.

>>174133397
>>174132618
not likely at TGS. From tends to do their announcements at E3, and it's been long enough since they said they started work that they would have something to show for it this year at E3.

Maybe not a trailer, but at least teasers/titles/screenshots. By TGS time they're more likely to have a trailer. Dev cycle for games like this is 1-2 years, so if they're not at least halfway done by now then that means it's being put aside for something else, which we would see a trailer.

Going quiet until the end of 2017 doesn't make sense for them.

>>174132618
E3 is where the hope is.

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>>174123285
even if you were to update it... it's in GIMP. I'm sorry anon.
>>174132618
I still have hopes, but I don't think they wont drop anything for TGS.
They wanted to do new IP IIRC and for PC too.

>>174153989
Not him but I use GIMP.

What actually needs changing in it? I can do the edits later maybe.

ded

>tried to convince my friend to buy the armored Core trilogy on PSN since he had plenty of money and I thought he'd like it
>he passed it up to by Tom Clancy's Call of ghost Duty Recon Battlefield or something

I'm sorry bros. I failed.

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>>174156401
Some grammatical errors would be great if you can. But mostly there have been some mad bantz about which game is better, difficulty and V vs 4A fags.

>>174165305
I got AC5+VD after getting hooked on the franchise by watching 4A, where do I fall into this?

dedd

http://p156.chobi.net/20th/
Anyone know if this is fake?

>>174172163

DON'T GO TO THIS WEBSITE. I got some warnings that it might be a virus.

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Can anyone recommend me some decent builds for AC:Nexus?

bump

>>174206417
A midweight with a Pixie2, a micro missile launcher, and something else on your back can tackle practically everything the game throws at you.

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>>174210971
How this sounds I'm thinking of trying it out

http://typerx.usamimi.info/ac2/teamgogotea/acnx/nx_bnk_01.htm

>>174211510
Well, I've forgotten a handful of these parts, but
>Kujaku
That one's pretty dangerous, especially with the 83TP. Good luck with that.
>WB73
I'm pretty sure that's a rocket. That'll be rough to use, especially on something this twitchy.
>radar
Personally, I'm biased against radar, but maybe you're the kind of person that likes having it. Definitely makes ECM less painful.
>LB3
You better be really good at landing hits with a blade because that's the shortest blade in the game and it has a long reload time. Granted, you're ripping out about 1500-2000 AP in a hit.

>>174165305
>V vs FA

you mean VD vs FA. No one prefers V to FA.

>>174172163
I didn't check the link but if it's the 20th anniversary countdown (which it looks like, from the link) then it is a fake.

>>174206417
>>174211510

Ignore the letter rankings. You should build for weight/def/damage/heat efficiency, not to get higher scores.

>>174211510
>>174210971

>pixie2

Pixie3 master race. Get on my level.

>>174218492

Is the grind blade in the back, or on the shoulder? Should ultimate weapons count as shoulder weapons?

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Live.

>>174221362
Both. Melee UWs take up the whole arm plus two back slots, wrapping around one shoulder.

Some UWs (like giga missile) only take up the back slots and don't have a wrap-around arm component.

They're not technically shoulder weapons in V/VD because shoulder units are internal in those games.

Howdy.

>>174232221

Interesting design idea.

>>174164278
It's okay brother anon, let him play his simplistic shooter, he'll lose interest in it soon enough.

>Tried reaching a few friends how to play VD

My friends fucking sucked at playing, you can only 1 v 4 in teams fights for so long as a jack of all trades build

>>174214654
I really hope we get something new at E3, hopefully they can take a hint from dark souls and actually market it properly this time around.

Does it bother anyone else here that while everyone fucking knows darks souls, no one ever seems to know armored core despite being from the same developer?

Had a few friends how claimed they loved all of FromSoftwares works and then I pointed out how armored core was actually their seconds big game following kings field. The look on their face when they realized demon souls/dark souls weren't FromSoftwares first games >my giant robot got the moonlight sword before your faith spamming knight did

So I've been wrestling with this firefox issue for a while now (the one that causes me constant high disk usage). For some reason, I was able to fix it just by making a new profile. Isn't that weird?

>>174251490

I think this makes me angry more than anything else; the fair weather fans.

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I'm about to buy this sexy model, any input on it?

>>174164278
I know that feel. Tried playing 1, Last Raven and 4A with friends but no one got interested.

>>174270236
That Demon's Souls quote though.

>>174270734

>put inspiring quote
>cover half of it with a weapon so it can't be read

Truly /ourguy/.

>>174270558
They'll never know the pain of nine ball or Marche au Supplice/Occupation of Arteria Carpals on hard mode

>>174271728

No pain, no gain. Come on step it up casuals.

>>174274558
>People like dark souls for being a very "in-depth" game
>Most people turn away from armored core because it's to in-depth

>>174276745
>praise dark souls for having the "deepest lore" and having minimalist storytelling
>claim Armored Core's story is convoluted, makes no sense, or is non-existent entirely despite using almost an identical format

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>>174164278
I have tried with my brother, friends, even a cousin, nobody wanted to spend even 5 minutes on the garage.

>>174277072
Hell, even "dying" is technically part of armored core as well

>>174277931
and aside from Last Raven and Ninebreaker (going by the senpais expirience here, is just plain cruelty) , the games are hard but fair most of the time.

>>174278426
Some of the old games actually gave you pretty substantial boosts if you were actively preforming like shit

I would say levels of fair were hard mode dependent, certain fights became fucking insane on hard mode, I would say White Glint in FA could be pretty hellish too depending on your loadout

>>174279752
>White Glint

For a reason, I always feel he really hard when fighting on a fresh new game (did it thrice) , but once you defeat him, is like the AI just stop trying and becomes a pushover when replaying the mission.

>>174280308
Armored core did have a bit of funky AI at times

>>174283536
but he is really fun fighting against in those "first times".

>>174277931

That's what I liked about the series.

>>174287537
Why do find dying funny?

>>174285824
>Fun
I agree, but the second chance he gets on hard mode did not evoke a nice reaction from me

>>174292705
That took me by surprise the first time I did hard, I dont know if it explained what really happens there on the official books, but it was a asspull that I actually enjoyed, but my reaction was basically the same that Serena has

>Wait! It's moving again?! What kind of NEXT is this?

>>174293101
I had like 4000 AP left the first time that happened because i fucked few quick-boosts into his missiles by accident

>>174287808

t. lapdog.

>>174293567
>League dogs, welcome to earth

I don't know why but i fucking love that line, ORCA a best though

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>>174293359
Similar, but I run into his Assault Armor because we got trapped withing the pillars.

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>>174294240
A man of taste has show himself it seems, the voice acting has something that makes the line sounds really good, but personally prefer the text version.

>>174294690
We're gonna save humanity right?

>>174298719

The Fire rises.

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>>174298719
of course anon, just follow me and friend for trip to the cradles first.

>>174270272
Any place that doesnt move/have optional parts should be glued/cemented.
My first koto AC kit was a 13 mavors model and it was finicky and the sharp parts were like needles.
Detailing and some parts tightening required.

good night /acg/

What booster should use in Nexus and how should I tune it?

Night

>>174306206

Do NOT use any that has a high booster.

>>174306206

Do not use any booster that puts out alot of heat. I'd use a low power booster in small missions and put all your AC's weight into a good radiator.

Copy of 2 came today, never played AC before but it looks really cool so I got it. Having a lot of trouble controlling my mech. Seems I can only just barely target enemies and even then when I have to manoeuvre it's a wrestle with the controls and the turning speed of my mech.
Any advice on controlling better?

>>174315273
Learn to boost hop by pressing X frequently while moving around and as soon as you land on the ground while moving you should keep your momentum and move a lot faster and can keep enemies on target.

After you master boost hopping everything else should come to you naturally.

>>174315835
Thanks anon-kun

Inevitably this thread is going to archive itself, so that raises a question, are we going to have a breadanon?

>>174326024
Want to try again without so much newfaggery

>>174326112
>A general that doesn't even break 200 posts
the mods could very well start deleting us too

>>174326324
maybe there is a mod that is fan of this general?

>>174326324
/aceg/ takes days to reach 200 and it's still kicking
tfw no alliance between /acg/ and /aceg/ solely based on the franchises having the same letters

>>174332425
>Different generals uniting
Maybe we can avoid our own Displacement War?

----ALSO----
Assuming there is an AC6 coming out this year, we should unite with /m/'s /acg/ as they're more of us raven/lynx/vets of the series. We need to possibly prepare for the flood of new fag from dark souls and any YouTubers if FromSoftware fixes their marketing technique for AC

>>174333635
Does AC and Souls really have that large a crossover audience? I get it's from From they didn't think about grammar with that company name but other than that there's no link.

>>174333787
Dark Souls/Demon Souls/Bloodborne for better or worse did make a ton of faggots who actively jacked off over how the souls franchise is the greatest thing ever and anything From does is a masterpiece (I had a few friends like that) and would probably buy anything else with there name stuck on it

>FromSoftware
Yeah, the name confused me the first time I played an AC game, think I was like 6?

>>174334110
I love the souls games and Bloodborne is my favourite game ever made but fuck I hate those people too, hopefully they get scared off though when they realise you can't co-op your way to victory.

If I can't play online should I still get the new ACs?

>>174334202
I've dabbled in the souls games too, but Bloodborne as I'm on Xbox, but the one time I actually sat one the down to try, I think it was V or VD, he said the combat and all other mechanics couldn't be more in depth than dark souls

>He though it was gonna be something super Japanese ala Gundam

>>174334463
That hurt me and I only just started AC today

>>174334543
The funny thing is too, AC has always had an extremely dark storyline that once you figure it out, I would say it's grimmer than dark souls story

I just wish more was done to help support the English releases

>>174334781
That's what I hate about being into japanese games, rarely do jap devs respect the west

>>174334781
>I just wish more was done to help support the English releases

Maybe that'll change now that FromSoft is well known and made a shitload of cash from Souls.

I just hope they keep Miyazaki away from Armored Core.

>>174335823
Didnt Miyazaki have a hand on LR and FA?

>>174335689
>Japanese games
AC is funny though in that aside from being a mecha game, it doesn't feel all that Japanese, has a lot of Western in it I feel like

>>174336124
That's true, I was speaking more in general though

>>174336193
I know what you mean

>>174335823
Possible you could elaborate on this a little more?

>Want to like these games
>Cannot deal with the control scheme
Destined to never be an /acg/ bro lads

>>174336087
Miyazaki did some character design for LR, if memory serves. But he did direct the entirety of 4th gen (which explains a great deal...).

>>174315273
The size of your lockbox is governed by your FCS and the lock type of the weapon you have active. Just note that larger boxes usually have shorter range.
But then again, if you're using something like a machine gun or a shotgun, then it's not like you need much range anyway.

>>174339648
You can remap the controls in every game anon. It'll be somewhere in the options menu.

Also if you're using an emulator, you can remap the emulator controls on top of everything else and give the games traditional twin stick movement controls. It takes a bit of work to get it all mapped out right but it's totally worth it and makes the games a lot funner.

I still played through the entirety of the PS1 games using the default controls though. It just doesn't feel right doing it any other way.

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Who was the best female character in Armored Core? Sumika, Wynne D, May Greenfield, Eclair, Huntress, Regina, Zinaida, Rosary, Blue Mag, Fran, and many others exist, but only one can be the best.

>>174341207
>Huntress
She was really based. I brought her as a consort in pretty much every mission I could, including the beginning missions where she used an MT. Definitely best girl in 3. I actually felt really bad when I had to kill her. That was the moment when shit got real for me in AC3.

>>174341207
If we are going to get into the argument about "strong female characters on videogames" I like how AC handle that stuff.

>>174340648
Wow I'm a dumbass
Thanks anon

>>174339648
I still don't get why they took so long to change the controls to analog. Didn't dualshock for ps1 come out a bit after AC1?

>>174345051
Yeah, who knows. jap devs tend to not be on the ball with a lot of stuff the west thinks is obvious

Bumpo

>>174270236
Is this the bastard child of the Aretha and Lahire?

>>174340648
>I still played through the entirety of the PS1 games using the default controls though. It just doesn't feel right doing it any other way.

Same for me but with the PS2 games.
Yes, including LR.

>>174341207
For me probably Fiona Jarnefeldt as she's the first operator to have an actual personality and character development.

>>174345647
I think is more Aretha and X-sobrero child

>>174341207
Btw, FA's Kasumi Sumika is the best, THE BEST

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ded

asdasdasd

WHATS YOUR FAVORITE BODY PART GUYS

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>>174365004
The booty.

>>174348104
>>174346845
>>174342405
>>174341559

All right answers.

rip

>>174384226
>Bump.

>>174376802
I feel like I'm missing something here

Do any of you play FigureHeads?

>>174392564
I remember seeing a trailer for it way back when but I didn't realize its been released

>>174341207
Zinaida.
>>174348104
Get your siscon bullcrap out of here.
>>174390239
Oh I remember this one.
So a few years back, Cheng decided to hold a conquest event. I forget how the scoring system worked, but there was a list of approved referees and you had to hire one as a merc to get credit for team fights. One of the referees was the leader, or at least the face, of a team that was participating.
Shockingly, that team pulled a huge lead out of nowhere stupid fast.
But it gets better. People started to call Cheng out on this and he defended it with something along the lines of >well, I'm not seeing it happen

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>>174395836
Whatta chod

>>174395836
>Get your siscon bullcrap out of here.


From where is that siscon bullcrap?

>>174395836
>Get your siscon bullcrap out of here

Get your shit right, Sumika's a christmas cake.

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>>174375908

>>174399784
Implying that's it's a problem?

>>174399784
and that's a problem? why?

>>174420551
>>174429452
Hold on now, i didn't say or imply cakes are a bad thing.

Far from it, they're a miracle of the universe.

>>174399296
Wait, weren't you the one that liked that big sister aspect of her? I seem to recall you and Risto fetishizing about that.

>>174429926
Nah, I just like the "mentor" aspect of her, specially since she is a operator, it gives a more closer relationship with strayed than just your hired operator (like in older games) or different from a pseudo love interest like Fiona.

>>174334110
>Dark Souls/Demon Souls/Bloodborne for better or worse did make a ton of faggots who actively jacked off over how the souls franchise is the greatest thing ever
people praise from because they are genuinely incredible games. i see people claim about jacking off etc. but i just don't see it happen, i just see genuine praise labelled as that by bitter people.
demon's souls was one of those magical games that only a relatively small amount of people could play at the time of its release and thus the threads were not only relatively shitpost-free, they were full of good content, and i don't remember a single person claiming it was the best thing ever.
same with dark souls - that is until at least the PC version came out and then everything went to shit. people started accusing others of miyazaki dick riding as soon as one claimed to like miyazaki. this flavour of hyperbole is not uncommon among the PC crowd and unfortunately it seems to have transcended into reality despite only rarely occurring.
then along comes bloodborne, where the shitposting levels were became immeasurable. you had a group of people desiring to discuss a legitimately awesome game and you had an opposing group who wanted to ruin that discussion in every way imaginable.
and hey, if i'm being ignorant and just unaware of the actual high level of miyazaki dickriding taking place - who cares? let dickriders ride dicks.
however, don't put regular ole fans - particular those who see the undeniable uniqueness to miyazaki's games and want to discuss it - into that basket because it isn't constructive and serves to reinforce a false narrative that i've never actually seen
there are a lot of us who like miyazaki because he hasn't disappointed us yet. DeS was unique. DaS was fantastic. DaS II was mediocre and a lot of people attribute it to the lack of miyazaki touch, which reinforced his "legend" status. then BB came out and it's on par with the DaS. there's a reason people like miyazaki.

>>174436950
Jeck please, the rose tint is real.
Dark Souls had killed the community well before PC got in on the action. At its outset, the population was immeasurably larger than that of Demon's Souls and the terrible trend the internet has shifted to had already begun its work.

>>174436950
>>174437946
>>174438736
NAMEFAGS FUCK OFF

>>174436950
>all that shit you typed
Bruh, I think the point was that we have a ton of faggots who praise From and claim to be their fans, yet they've never even heard of Armored Core or hate it for dumb reasons.

>>174438910
Do you have any idea where you are?

>>174438910
>Hating namefags
>they are the ones that keep this general alive

/acg/ is namefag friendly place.

>>174439808
Namefags have always been despised here newfag

>>174438910
have you even listen to our theme song?

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>>174429776
I'll get my Christmas Cake yet

>>174439862
It's true!

>>174438910

No.

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>>174395836
>Get your siscon bullcrap out of here.
Pic related

>>174438910
Pic super related

>>174376802
Fucking tourneyfag-tier regulations man. And his obsessions with Tolima legs, man, I can't even describe this guy's poor taste in mechanical legs.

>>174450169
That is a serval, right?

>>174438910
but what will be of /acg/ without the namefags

>Ahab
Top tier faggot that acts like if he owns the place

>Spencyr
we need someone to make textwalls like these >>174436950 sometimes

>Pendragon
We need someone to bully

>kzm
drawfag

>Ranker
mindless bump drone.

>Xezberzs
the usual OP and a fag.

>>174451785
is B+ Ranker for you fag.

>>174451785
Circlejerk enabling fuck
Namefags need to die

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>>174451785
Thanks.

hghjg

Have any of you raed the Armored Core tvtropes page?

...what? We have to talk about something right?

>>174459909

But circlejerks are fun.

>>174468006
I have done it a couple of times, the analysis on how 4 era is a descunstruction of the serie could use some work

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>Playing Nexus
>mfw discovering cluster missiles

It feels really OP on 1v1

ded

>>174481575

Cluster missiles are so sexy, I'd gladly bang them.

It would be a real clusterfuck

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>>174481575
>Accurate representation of nexus cluster missile effects

>>174517193

>accurate depiction of doing anything in Nexus

Ftfy

dedd

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bump.

>>174556503
Here's hoping for a kick ass cinematic reveal at e3

>>174559642
From opened a new CG studio for themselves a couple of years ago, they better have one after VD didnt get one

bumo

>>174560789

As odd as this sounds, I hope they just keep it to one intro cinematic. Don't have them scattered throughout the game. That way they can put all the polish into that singular one, while reserving the rest of the plot for in-game cutscenes. That would better appropriate the already small budget that you know the game will have.

>>174572645
The games have never had more than the nice intro, I dont think we are going to get more than one, but I will love FA missiin briefing coming back

good night /acg/

>>174574180

Animated company logos were pretty sick. Though I wish they tied into the lore more. You know, the cheaper and smaller companies could have cheaply made stuff made in ms paint, while the expensive corporate entities would have super expensive logos crafted in adobe premier pro enterprise exclusive edition.

anyone done something like a sword only run?

namefags are the reason no one likes this shithole general

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how can I make a VOTOMS in VD?

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>>174600427
>make a VOTOMS
Well, there's a bunch of different flavors of that, so you're going to have to be more specific. Also, I forgot what the acronym stood for, so I looked it up and got triggered.
Anyway, you won't be able to make a 1:1 Scopedog due to a lack of two-hand weapons and trinocular heads. Still, I think you're looking at a midweight with a CE core and anything with rounded shoulders, I think TE arms give you the best options for that. Rifle of your choice on an arm, I'd go with the Tansy, and then a piledriver on the other arm. Missiles of your choice in the shoulder. I think you'll want to go with a single shoulder arm for cosplay purposes. There are cases of a Scopedog equipping weapons on both shoulders, but as far as I remember, those cases were:
>cannon + missile
>smoke grenade + missile
And not missile + missile. But then again, maybe there was one and I just forgot.
>>174590192
Plot twist, Adobe is the one funding the antagonistic nonsense because of how much money they're getting from everyone buying their software to make emblems.
>>174574180
No, some of the game had occasional CG sequences laced into the game. Nexus and its bad endings come to mind.

can some people who dig giant robots join my server?

https://discord.gg/YzqgqfG

>>174609109
Why would I talk to a bunch of fags on discord when I can talk to cooler fags right here?

>>174609109
I dunno Anon. I've been through a lot of Discord channels, and the vast majority of them have sucked. What makes yours any different?

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>>174104639
Hey all, mech game dev here. It's been a couple weeks since I've last visited. Here's a small progress update if you guys are interested.

This is the camera drone that follows the player around and serves as the third person camera.

>>174622404
>the camera drone that follows the player around and serves as the third person camera
That's actually a pretty funny idea. Though why does the camera need an ingame model if you'll never actually see it?

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>>174622794
You can see it sometimes, and I'm working on features that will make it a smarter-than-normal camera, such as pathing to ovoid objects it is swinging towards instead of just smacking into the or clipping through.

This is the ring-less version, which some other anons suggested they like better but it goes against all the others I've designed based off having a ring.

I'm also not sure on a title. I'm floating around Mass Destruction.

>>174622404
>>174623080
With the ring it looks more like a small attack drone.

A

>>174622404
>>174623080

There a reason why you need a camera drone following the player? I think it's a cool idea, but it feels a tad unnecessary.

>>174624965
It serves as the third person camera, that's it. It just has a mesh attached to it now.

>>174623080
I prefer the one with the ring.

>>174626436
>>174623925
Yeah, me too. I'm gonna keep it then.

>>174626115
you can use it for free exploration of the maps or something, you could even justify it existence if you make the setting something like big gladiadors mecha show or something along those lines.

>>174624965
It's in-game justification of the third-person view, which is cool.
Although this does make me wonder, can the cameras be attacked?
>>174623080
I prefer it with the ring, but it might not be a bad idea to include some ringless designs. Fluff it as the latest technological development and whatnot.

>>174438736
certainly, but it was still tolerable. capra threads were hilarious. "artificial difficulty" only showed up with PC.
>>174439808
sometimes i like to go off ok
>>174439808
>we have a ton of faggots who praise From and claim to be their fans, yet they've never even heard of Armored Core or hate it for dumb reasons.
yeah, that much is true and it's unfortunate
i'm just bitter at how the more popular a thing becomes, the more it gets automatically vilified.
just to throw out some examples shinji mikami is barely a household name anymore but his past work is universally praised (ie. not popular = constructive discussion)
kamiya got more popular only because of twitter and people basically started hating on his games just because he was easily trolled - he's basically the father of modern fast paced 3d action games and yet his twitter sperg-outs garner more attention than the work he's done
kojima is... well kojima, you can't even discuss him anymore on the internet anymore despite the unique traits he brings to his games
then you have miyazaki a genuinely passionate guy who's proven it through his work and has been rewarded immensely for it, but you say one praise for the guy and you're a FROM-drone. i just see it happen and it stifles good conversation and makes me bitter because his contribution to the medium is undeniable.
there's no hate boner for games like vanquish or okami, or even snatcher, because not enough people have played them. give something enough time in the spotlight and it becomes easy to hate for that reason alone - people begin to ignore the positive traits just to sustain their contrarian hate boner, and it's happened with miyazaki and it sucks because (unlike the others above), he hasn't fucked up in my eyes. yet.
>>174449709
tellin it how it is
>>174451785
accurate
but missing a few fags ;_;7
>>174607956
>Adobe is the one funding the antagonistic nonsense
heartily chuckled for a lot longer than expected
thanks ahab

>>174622404
>>174623080
awesome

>>174627596
>>174626967
I haven't 100% fleshed out all the camera controls. Originally I wanted to have a slave unit that you can send out to track targets remotely or take manual control of while your mech goes into an auto pilot mode. I haven't determined if I want the cameras able to be attacked/damaged, especially since the main one is one of the only views into the game world for the player, and I feel like messing with the primary camera that much might be sloppy game design.

Ideas I've flirted with:
>take manual control of a second drone to mark/track targets
>the same drone can provide a stronger lock (for weapons that need it)
>drone can launch a stun EMP
>drone can possibly be damaged
>drone can be used to repair mech

These would all be functions of the secondary drone, though. I want to keep the shenanigans with the primary one to a minimum, because as I've said, it serves as the primary third person camera.

>>174628780
What fags I am missing?

>>174629131

As long as it has a purpose, I wholeheartedly welcome the additions.

Robutts

>>174251490
> and actually market it properly this time around.

From doesn't control marketing for their games outside of Japan, that's what Bandai Namco does. Bandai did a poor job marketing for Dark Souls, too. Most of the sales came from the reviews and word of mouth for the game because the early pre-patch editions of the game were legitimately hard as fuck (curse stacked, all enemies aggro'd before you could see them, bosses didn't drop humanity, drop rates were lower, couldn't lock on to forest NPCs, and had a lot more enemies with clustered placement) so it got a lot of free press from pure difficulty alone.

Sales for dark souls really didn't kick off until they released Prepare to Die, which did have actual marketing, and fixed all of those problems.

The only AC games with decent marketing were AC4 and (maybe) ACV. AC4 marketing was aimed at the 360 shooter market, ACV marketing used dubstep.

The only way we're going to get a decently-marketed AC game is if Sony picks up the franchise after Bandai and gives it the bloodborne treatment of TV ads, sponsored events, and promotional content.

>>174277931
>>174277072
>>174276745
The main difference is that dark souls difficulty feels intuitive (reaction-time and memorization based) whereas AC difficulty seems confusing (stats and prediction).

Dark Souls works kind of on the same principle as a Platnium Games title, where you have to do careful inputs, but the game gives you obvious signals about what to do and when. It's usually pretty obvious when you have to roll and when enemies are open to be attacked.

AC doesn't give you ANY signals from enemies about what to do (except for a few bosses). And the older (PS1/PS2) titles are much worse about this. It's almost impossible to dodge a shot unless you predict when it's coming your way, so the casual player feels cheated and that the game is too 'clunky'. In AC you don't have a simple dodge>dodge>block>attack>dodge pattern, you're dodging AND attacking at the same time, and you have to take damage in order to deal damage usually.

So in order to even understand what you're doing wrong in AC, you have to understand the entire game. Dark Souls lets you get away with not understanding most of the game as long as you have good reaction time, but reaction time won't save you in AC if you don't know how the stats work.

It makes AC more in-depth, more complicated, and more difficult than DS, but that doesn't translate to a more fun experience except for hardcore players.

>>174306206
Use the highest power booster you can that doesn't cause you to overheat when boosting normally.

Basically here's the formula:

(Booster Heat + Generator Heat) *2 - Cooling = Total Heat

So if your cooling is 14000, your generator heat is 4000, that means you have 6000 left (14000 - 8000 = 6000) and 6000/2 = 3000 booster heat. Anything above that will cause you to gain heat, and anything significantly higher (like 3300) will cause you to overheat really easily.

Birdie + highest cooling radiator + tune everything for cooling + G91 (or lotus) is a pretty solid combo.

>>174315273
Change the control scheme.

For older AC games I find it's best to use D-Pad for movement, Triangle/Square/Circle/X for looking up/left/right/down, and then R-arm, L-arm, and boost on the R1/L1/R2 buttons.

That way you have a bit of a twinstick setup where you can look in one direction while moving in the other, and that makes targeting better.

Use a Wide and Shallow FCS to have a wider lock box, though your range will suffer, and use weapons that don't take a while to lock on.

Also learn to back away when you lose track of an enemy. The further away you are, the less turning speed is going to restrict your sight.

>>174333787
>Does AC and Souls really have that large a crossover audience?

No, but they will.

Most Dark Souls fans treat AC like weird, mediocre games that aren't worth really playing, but they really want a souls-like game to be sci-fi. They can and will flock to whatever comes next, even if it's AC6, just to sate that need.

Every day people on /dsg/ are complaining and asking about what will From Soft do next, and the general already shit itself multiple times with Nioh and For Honor being proclaimed as the next game to play.

Unless AC6 is a complete fucking mess, you can guarantee we will get flooded with newfags.

>>174334463
The PS1 era AC games are about on-par with Dark Souls for complexity. ACLR or ACV/VD are the peaks of complexity in the franchise( AC4/FA took a step backward).

Dark Souls is extremely reductive mechanically and minus all the multiplayer, graphics and level design, it's no more complex than Ocarina of Time.

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>>174335689
>>174336124
From is a Westaboo company. They deliberately make western-style games for the JP market. That's why all their games are released with English titles, and a lot of them feature western themes.

>>174336087
He had a small part in ACLR's design, mostly in the world and character designs. But AC4 and ACFA are entirely his idea. ACFA's storyline actually matches up with dark souls story pretty identically, and the 3 endings for ACFA are the same as DS1/DS2.

>>174334463
>He though it was gonna be something super Japanese ala Gundam

AC4 and ACFA were closer to that, and that's why Bandai stepped in to take over the series. It was cutting into Gundam sales, so they turned it into a ground-based multiplayer-only shooter with ACV. (and also delayed the game's release by 2 years...)

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>>174339648
The games let you customize the controls completely. There is no excuse to using them as a reason not to like the games.

>>174341207
Top tier:
>Zinaida
>Blue Magnolia
>Losvaize
>Mary Shelley

Mid Tier
>Sumika (Both of them, PP and ACFA)
>Wynne D.
>Eclair

Low tier:
>Everyone Else

>>174406705
EXTRA THICC

>>174436950
A lot of the wanking over dark souls comes down to 3 things:

1. 90% of its 'innovation' was just bringing PS2-era RPG mechanics to PC gamers that had never seen it before.

2. It was widely marketed as "one of the hardest games ever" despite that not being the case. This is bandai namco's fault

3. Invasions mean you could pull unfair exploits on other players and feel like a god, so they act like it's a serious multiplayer game

The assholes who jerk over the series are the people who fell for those three things. Mostly PC or Xbox players that grew up on handholding shooters/mmos and had never played a traditional platformer/third person RPG and were shocked at a game that actually had good immersion and combat mechanics.

Thing is, now 5 years later most of the fans of dark souls realize those mistakes and don't act like that anymore. So while the wankery was real at one time, it's much less intense now.

Not gonna bother que-ing everyone in who responded to my whole dark souls fan wanking comment, over all that was just a simple summary of the initial case of dark souls, obviously things have toned down by DS3, but Bloodborne did start the wanking a bit again.

But yeah, it kinda sucks that at this point I played AC4/ACFA/ACV/ACVD on the 360 (still played the others on PS2/1) I just hope that who ever does end up marketing it can do a good job with it, even if it it won't, I just hope it's not an exclusive (although with the whole Pro vs Scorpio thing now I'm a little bit concerned)

As for gameplay, I honestly hope that they keep AC6's technical level at V/VD but make the game a bit smoother like 4/FA.

>>174658274
>As for gameplay, I honestly hope that they keep AC6's technical level at V/VD but make the game a bit smoother like 4/FA.

Go play Last Raven. Emulate it if you have to. That's the game you're thinking about. AC4/FA is actually built on LR's mechanics and use a lot of the same stats (they just changed the numbers to be "higher" in the stats screen), but LR was much more technical and complex in how the parts differed and what stats were important. So all the smoothness of ACFA was from ACLR.

ACLR is like ACVD in that swapping one or two parts out can cripple your AC strategically.

The reason VD doesn't feel as smooth is because they changed a lot about how the inputs worked, getting rid of progressive inputs and replacing them with on/off inputs (like kicking) so you couldn't transition as smoothly between different attacks and stuff. It made the gameplay more like dark souls / fighting games (where you were locked into an animation while doing something) but did make it feel considerably more clunky.

>>174658274
>>174658661
whoops, missed your comment that you played the others on PS2/PS1.

Still, ACLR is probably the pinnacle of the series mechanically. ACVD is better for it's multiplayer and ACFA was a cooler experience, but both have a lot of issues that ACLR didn't.

>>174658838
No problem

Now that I think about it, LR was fairly similar to what I'm thinking although I haven't played it in years so I really don't remember much of it.

But in V/VD I did like the more detailed explanation of weapons in terms of KE/CH/EN based, I think that was nice. Really did make it so you and to think about what your were taking into battle. (The teams of friends I briefly managed to play with in ACV unfortunately banked on me being a take all corners kind of AC which as we know has its ups in downs)

But the one thing that I still like about AC4/FA is that the AC just felt so distinct, they visually were extremely appealing while still remaining within Armored Core's design style.

>>174659645
AC4/FA had miyazki's design, which means that parts weren't really supposed to be similar. Every part was dramatically different from other parts in some way (like Lahire vs Aaliya). The problem with this is that ACFA is also broken as fuck because there's a few weapons that are just absolutely overpowered. The parts also don't work well together or mix so you're basically stuck with cosplay builds.

I like ACLR more because it had a few archetypes, but had progression in the builds, and parts mixed really well.

Just look at how the head parts are organized:

Crest:
Head (no radar): 69S < 70S2 < 72S3 < 81S4
Head (Radar): 73E < 84E2 <95EE < 07EC
Head (Eye): Eye < Eye2 < Eye3 < Eye4
Head (special): 85SR < 06SR2

Mirage:
Head (No radar): Wasp < Wasp2
Head (Shell def) Beetle < LadyB < Longhorn <Dynastes
Head (En Def) Cicada < Cicada2 < Cricket < Pillbug
Head (Radar focus) Mantis < Spider < Scarab
Head (balanced) Queen < Mayfly < Sting < Drone
Head (special) Butterfly < Firefly

Pretty much every part in the game follows that kind of "series" logic with later parts getting overall but more specialized, so they mixed and matched really well.

The problem with ACFA is that they made all the parts SO unique that they could only be used in one way really.

>>174661642
>Unique parts
I should have probably noted that as from an aesthetic stand point.

Certain pieces couldn't be intermixed at all and some weapons were definitely overpowered as fuck depending on which reg you played with.

I hope they make it so parts are distinct enough that you can at least tell the manufacturer at a glance, or if manufacturers keep signature themes running amongst their parts

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>>174662685
I think that the best way to that would be going with a mix of what FA and LR did

Each company have somekind of focus with their parts, like how Interior was full on energy weapons and defense, but in the new game and maybe it sequel, they will have the evolution serie that LR had, with the first part being a well balanced but with a small favor over energy defense and the newest part being full on energy defense, their weapons going from a well rounded laser rifle, to a Karasawa with few shots but each shot can cripple a AC; GA being a jack of all trades with a small favor to heavy weapons and shell defense, their end game being full on tank parts and the like.


on he aesthetic side, I think we could go a little with how VD was, while the lack of a manufacture on the parts can be a little misleading, some parts actually share something that made me think they were some kind of frame or same serie.

Take pic related here >>174552470
for example, the core and arms have those big spikes coming from them and are mostly rounded and no so boxy like other parts.

I can post more pics with other parts with same similiraties if you want,

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>>174667264
I can see what you mean. I always thought this guys parts fit together quite nicely

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>>174671382
there, just look at the head, core and legs (mostly the shield) they all have those small and square plates all over the place.

the legs on pic related is probably a heavy biped variant (going mostly for the shield) of the same serie.

With this, they could have corps with a distinctic focus (energy weapons, missiles, heavy or light frames, close range weapons or full sniper) and aesthetic, yet have a more overall common desing like in the classics game, 4 era had the problem that everthing was too unique to merge well with other parts most of the time; while V era had the problem of everthing looking similar most of the time.

>>174334369
"I care about story, feeling cool, and an easy game" = ACFA (20-30 hours of content, mostly because you have to replay 3 times to get the full story)

"I care about style, immersion, and fair difficulty." = AC4 (10 to 30 hours of content, shorter if you are good)

"I care about replay ability, hard mode, and lots of content to sink into" = ACVD (unlimited hours of content. It has 8 different hard modes, some very powerful post-game bosses, and a lot of sub systems to tweak with)

You can skip ACV, it's the only one that is kind of pointless without online. Just watch the story mission playthroughs on youtube.

I'd recommend ACVD if you're willing to stick with it and sink 100+ hours into the game. If you just want a more accessible single player game, ACFA is best for story, AC4 is best for mechanics/gameplay.

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Is it normal that I feel like I need three more thumbs to play VD? Something about the jump and the boost being on separate buttons completely fucks with me.

That and the on/off modes for the boosters

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"What is taking so long with the last raven balance patch?"

Because shit like this takes me 2 days straight to pull off.

I'm considering starting a patreon to get some backing for the game mod, something that will let me take less hours at work so I can go faster. At this rate I won't be done with a public release until late summer or fall, since I'm only getting to work on friday and saturday nights.

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>>174672492
Change your controls around.

This is what I use:

R1 = R right weapon
L1 = Left Weapon
R2 = Jump/Boost Drive
L2 = High Boost / Kick
R analog = Look
L analog = Move
Scan Mode = R3
Glide boost = L3 (or deploy Recon if you spam recons a lot instead)

That lets you do all the basic movement, attack, and scan mode without moving your fingers around. (purge weapon, toggle boosters, recon, etc.) are infrequent enough actions that moving a finger off of one of the bumpers (claw) or off of the analog stick to press them is fairly easy.

>>174672602

Take your time man. These things are worth the weight.

>>174672602
Take your time, I just started a class about code, the simple fact that you somehow are working on patch for free is enough man, this shit is hard.

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>>174673065
I'll try that out, thanks bud

well night

good night bump

rip

>>174673403

I thought I wanted to make video games, but after seeing coding at work, I was like "aw hell nah."

>>174682530
Well, there's still art/design, animation, writing, and a whole bunch of other things that one can do in creating games. You don't actually ever have to code, unless you're working solo.

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Last one.

>>174683502
This is true, but you need to find someonr to do thw code eventually

>>174672026
>4 era
>Too unique
Yeah, while I liked certain things from the 4 era it really was annoying from a technical/aesthetics stand point how you couldn't really intermix AC parts from different companies, hell, even their own variants within a company

I hope companies make a return in some form, let's just hope that they function like>>174667264 in AC6

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Just finished AC4's story. That sure flew by. I felt like I had no idea what I was doing at first, and by the end I had no idea what I was doing but with better mission ranks.

>>174700783
Hard Mode is the actual story. AC4 and ACFA are pretty short. AC3 is probably the longest game in the franchise, Nexus is second if you include both disks. ACFA is also the easiest.

Figuring out how to get higher ranks and improve in the game is the entire point. Story has never been a strong suit of From Soft, it's more about how the player is immersed in the mechanics, not the story.

So assuming AC6 is a thing this year, who is hopping that the music follows 4/FA choir style with a mix of things like nine-ball's theme?

>>174701789
God no, I am so burned out on annoying choral music in video games.

Bring us back to electronic ambient music. It's already popular again. If they gave us a soundtrack that was on-par with VD's DLC music (best music since SL, I think), that would be great.

>>174703207
>God no, I am so burned out on annoying choral music in video games.
This, but the way it's done in AC4 is actually really cool. The tracks actually feel unique instead of just being random chanting. And it actually fits the tone of the game instead of feeling tacked on. FA's soundtrack wasn't as good and didn't feel as fitting, but it was a decent attempt.

>If they gave us a soundtrack that was on-par with VD's DLC music (best music since SL, I think), that would be great.
Definitely agree with this though. The AC4 type tracks only work for a specific tone and aesthetic, I'd rather have the more classic electronic style soundtracks for the next game.

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>>174701789
Personally I thought AC3 and SL had the best music, the mix of electronic with rather dark orchestrations really did it for me. It was such a tonal shift from the poppy techno from AC2 before it, it really helped sell the feeling that AC3 was something darker and different, even if gameplay-wise it was the same.

I also liked the abundance of bass guitar in the Nexus and AC4 soundtrack, so I wouldn't mind seeing that come back either. Bass guitar and giant robots go well together.

>>174703207
I would at least like a Prayer+Agitator+Thinker combo again
But more of the electronic stuff ala nine-ball's would be nice to see again

There was a post from /m/ AC general, but say in AC6 if you take a wristed mounted weapon and a typical hand held weapon, the the hand held weapon, like rifles, could be used by both hands for improved accuracy and stability

Y/N?

>>174704342

My brother from another mother!

AC3 and SL had the best sound tracks bar none.

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>>174711607
It's an interesting idea but the two problems are how to implement the command in a game already using every button and several combinations therein, as well as clipping issues. FROM doesn't care too much for small clipping issues but in a game like AC where torsos and arms come in all shapes and sizes that'd be really hard.

>>174713062
>Clipping
Forgot about how fucking massive it could end up being

>Heavy Core
>Light Arms
>Short rifle

It's literally firing a machine gun from it's chest

>>174711607
No, there should be specialised two handed weapon. Two handed weapon have two attack mode. Maybe like a Thermal Lance that can fire Plasma bombs. Or a shotgun with grenade launcher.

>>174710621
This pic reminds me of aldonoah zero

>>174721738
There's a good reason for that.

>>174715381
>Rifle with bayonet/energy blade

If they put something like that in I'm fine with them being specialist two handed weapons

Bump of life

>>174715381
I'm thinking of the two handed plasma gun from the Big Whites in ACSL.

Honestly, I'd rather see totally ambidextrous ACs like VD, with the option to equip your 2H weapon on either the left or right hand dominant.

>>174715381
I would say maybe the catch would be that both can't be "fired" at the same time?

LIVE DAMN IT!

>>174741904
>>174734446
I've always wondered how these are made. That's some pretty high quality CGI if it is.

>>174749681
It's CG.

It just takes time and skill to make them.

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I just want kawamori back for Ac6

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>>174752152
I like his designs but i want it at a 4/4a proportions.

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>>174752152
/acg/'s god.

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>>174752765

Mech dev here. What's a good place to put directional thrusters? ACFA does thigh thrusters, Zone of the Enders has then on the knees.
Maybe up on the shoulders?

>>174451785
c'mon, namefags arent that bad, remember this a dead and obscure game, we dont have the usual faggotry like other places.

>Ahab
a friendly senpai to any random anon looking to get into the game

>Spencyr
His rant are fun and tend to be more objective than most

>Pendragon
Penny is fucking adorable, he/she is almost the cute pet of the general

>kzm
I dont know him much, is just the ocasional drawfag for me honestly, but at least we have one

>B+ Ranker
Cool guy to have around and he does a lot of the bumps

>Xezberz
Another friendly senpai, probably the cool one to Ahab grumpy oldman

and they really know about the game, the general may be death, but they can have some nice chats when something pick their interest.

>>174754471
I would say on the waist.

>>174754471
>Mech Dev

Elaborate

>What's a good place to put directional thrusters?

Realistically? Places close to the center of gravity where they can easily transmit force to the rest of the chassis (no compression/bending/crumpling). Something like ACFA's shoulder or leg boosters make no sense, since they would push the shoulders/legs away before actually moving the AC.

Stylistically? Bottom of chest (in the rib area), back (shoudlerblades).

>>174754960
>Elaborate
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>>174622404

Right now I'm just copying the hip thruster design. It seems hard to fit two shoulder weapons and have readjustable thrusters on the shoulder blade area.
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>>174754960
Isnt V era style more realistic? the booster tend to be surround the core instead of just being 2 on the back like in previous game.

What's the best Armored Core for a newfag that prefers faster paced combat?

For Answer, try 4 if you feel it is too fast.

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>>174758386
Any of them, really. You're going to be slow and clunky no matter what starting out, so they all feel fast by comparison. It's not until you beat a few of the games that you get comfortable with them enough to be limited by speed.


The fastest-moving combat is probably ACFA (PS3/360). But the actual pace of combat is slow and it takes a while to kill things because everyone can dodge so fast.

Fastest-paced combat is probably Nexus or LR (PS2, LR is on PSP), you can kill people incredibly fast and fights feel sort of like a DPS race.

Most reaction-time based (quick, heavy-hitting strategies) is ACVD (PS3). There's a lot of OHKO strategies that just require preparation and reaction time.

Slowest is probably AC3, but it's the one I would recommend most for beginners because of how well designed it is.

>>174758386

Also, read:
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Forgot to post.

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>>174763805
God, this man is a legend.

>>174763805
I love that head on the far right, I'm a sucker for multiple lenses

>>174764415

The DINGO2 legs are the greatest gift to robots ever. I use them on my staple.

>>174767792
Too bad the in-game model doesn't look nearly as good.

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>decide to grind out S ranks on VD to GitS OST
>Not available in my country

Well fuck me with a yardstick I just lost all motivation. It's been years since I've actually listened that soundtrack

>>174771570
Lmao saved that picture, that hot one's episode was great.

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>>174771815
Mistakes into miracles, accidentally hit printscreen instead of F12. Also unsurprisingly Dax Shephard's movie was shit

But do ya happen to know of any good anime music sites or anything of that sort?