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previous episode >>174064398

futaba edition

NEWS
>English P5 DLC schedule: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-dlc-scheduled-announced-english-release/
>Next major event announced for August 2nd in Sumaru City: http://personacentral.com/large-scale-persona-live-event-announced-august-2-2017/
>New Persona games to be announced 2017: http://personacentral.com/atlus-to-announce-several-games-in-2017-includes-the-persona-series/
>New Atlus studio "Studio 0" to create new RPG named Project Re Fantasy: http://personacentral.com/atlus-project-re-fantasy-concept-video-site-update/
>Persona 20th Anniversary radio CD announced: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-radio-cd-detailed/

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S
GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona Image Collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
http://pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE
MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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KAWAKAMI IS CUTE
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what happens when casuals try to play persona
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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Just finished the game. What a ride. It bothers me that the interrogator at the beginning didn't really appear in the game. Time to start again and be a total goof on the second playthrough.
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H A R U
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>>174082287
Someone explain this meme
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>>174082280
They don't use buffs and then cry about difficulty.
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B E S T B O Y
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B
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>>174082305
but what about the billions of things about it that make it the most disappointing game of the decade
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Man shidos voice blows ass. He really killed his own bossfight with shitty voice acting.
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>>174082481
>not using the japanese voices
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Magrydyne
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>>174082263
yes
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>yusuke has depth
kek
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>>174082280
What happens is they can't beat archangel
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>>174082280
Safety mode
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>>174082280
they play persona 4 and praise it as the best game they've ever played
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>>174082470
I think we'd all appreciate if you actually pointed these things out instead of mindlessly shitposting.
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Any other games that do a good job of having both comfy-slice-of-life fell as well as a full combat gameplay aspect?

I never knew how much I'd enjoy a game like this.
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>>174082280
>it's too hard
from what I've seen, some people are terrible at the ambush system for some reason.
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What's the easiest way to get all three Auto Ma- -kaja skills onto a single Persona?
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>>174082718
conception ii is that but shitty
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>>174082481
I actually like Shido's VA
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>>174082546
>still pushing this tired meme
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>>174082470
holy shit this
one point about morgana that gets progressively harder to bitch about the more people break it down really ruined the fuck out of this game. What the fuck was Atlus thinking
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>>174082481
I'll sue!!!!
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>>174082458
He really is. Yusuke attracts all the fujos though, contrary to popular belief.
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>>174082263
>>174082568
>Persona 5 is my first Persona game
>Used to joke about weebs falling for fictional characters
>Fell for sensei

FUCK
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>>174082413
A long time ago when they gave out details about the game, it was mentioned that Joker left the city to go to Tokyo. Historically Tokyo is knkwn as "the city" so what other place could be a city other than Sumaru City?

It spiralled from there. Eventually someone started to say Joker was Reiji's son.
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i know it's in the metaverse so he's more jumped up than his scrawny teenager body, but shiho falling from the height she did and being seriously injured is funny to me after joker crashed through a glass window and fell from a way greater height in the intro and was totally fine
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>Hehehe... it's going to be a bloodstorm!
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>>174082546
I'm playing with japanese audio. His VA is shit.
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>>174082913
are you serious? goro is much more popular with fujos on twitter
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>tfw NG+
>tfw feel bad for romancing a different girl since I was loyal for first playthrough
>guilt intensifies
It's just a game but why do I feel this way
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>>174082880
I'm pretty sure that the people complaining about the game's flaws and the people bitching about Morgana are different people.

I like the game, but denying it has issues (doing a fake out death, none once, not twice, not thrice, but four times) is silly.
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>>174082913
>yusuke
>not the akechi fag
Ok
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>>174082957
Shiho's was a three story drop. Joker's was like a 2 story drop and that's being generous
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>>174082546
Shido's voice is bad in both versions
You got your stupid Char meme out of it at least
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>>174083091
Just means that the waifus are really good this time around

I felt bad for not fucking Kawakami this time, but at least her perks are still free and essential.
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>>174083128
Joker also fell with proper form, if you convert into a roll you can absorb a lot of the damage you'd otherwise receive. Whenever you read about people falling from insane heights and surviving this is usually how. Shiho just fell down flat.
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>>174083091
I went harem but I actually regret not staying loyal to only makoto, and Im very disgusted I fucked my little sister
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>>174083242
Ann is just so cute I feel terrible for going to Haru or Makoto this playthrough, and part of me wants to cheat on all 3 but at the same time I don't want them to get angry on Valentines
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>>174083109
>four
Joker, Ryuji, Morgana and who else?
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>>174083389
Do you not remember literally directly after Ryuji's 'death' we come back to the cafe being a fucking mess and the TV says that a man was found dead in an alley covered in lacerations and shit?

I thought they killed off /our guy/ and Ryuji was just a red herring.
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>>174083375
There's no real benefit to going "harem" is there, since they only get angry at the end at you and you don't get to keep all of them
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>>174083586
you get chocolate from soujiro and the scene is actually pretty funny
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>>174083378
That's the other thing, in P4G the other gals just get depressed

Here they get fucking pissed off

They really punish you for trying to harem so have one waifu and stick to her.
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GET MY SISTER PREGNANT, INNNMATE
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>>174083586
Nah, you get to keep all of them. It's just a shitty thing to do.
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>tfw your waifu is a slut
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>>174083242
They really are.

Girls in 3 and 4 were great, but it usually took you until around halfway through their social link for you to realize it. And the designs for non-party member girls were underwhelming.

In this one, each girl is really sexy and cool immediately, and they just get better as you do their social link.
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>>174083586
you get sojiros chocolate on top of your actual valentine I guess
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>>174083109
>I like the game
do you notice the common usage of this phrase
nobody loves persona 5 like they do the past games, nobody thinks it's fantastic or amazing. it's just a good game, but it's weighed down so much by its flaws it never becomes anything special
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>>174083537
>Sojiro not being at the cafe for two seconds when they get back after getting arrested earlier is a fakeout death
now THAT is silly.
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How exactly did shidos shadow just reappear after he killed himself for a few minutes? Like you see his shadow dying but for some reason it comes back? Why don't other shadows come back just like that?
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>>174083586
you're satan on the inside, go do bad things
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>>174083676
>the icons on the bottom

What the fuck are those
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Reminder to ignore the shitposters.
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Loli: Voltron Edition doesn't keep the 'inmate'
1/10 Atlus plz try again

>>174083676
wait are you implying that Anne is a whore or Makoto is a whore?


>>174083773
You come back at the news is literally talking about a dude they found dead, and Futaba thinks he's dead too.

It's not on the same level as the others but I thought they had got me for a second.
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>>174083668
s-stop they're lolis this is wrong
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P5 > P2 > P3 > P1 > P4
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>>174083916
P2 > P3 > P1 > P5 > P4
It doesn't get any more real than this.
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>>174083916
(Yu)
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>>174083801
remote play
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>>174083916
yeah I agree
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>>174083916
p1=p2=p3=p4=p5
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>>174083916
thumbs up
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>console in-game
>no Sonic parody
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Someone help me who I should romance next:
Tae, Makoto, or Haru
It's too bad Haru comes so late into the game. Which one is cutest/has best romance scenes?
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>>174083916
I imported P5 back in September, haven't played the localized version yet
P3 > P1 > P2 > P4 > P5
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>>174084087
it's a famicom senpai
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>>174083659
Honestly this disappointed me. Knowing Chie believes she's not attractive enough to deserve a full-time boyfriend, hearing Yukiko blame her own social ineptitude for thinking you're cheating, watching Rise break down, making Naoto lie to herself... I mean you feel bad in the moment but looking back it was kind of fun to abuse their emotions like that. It's great to be cruel in games, and it's a shame you can't make anyone in 5 really break down.
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>>174084087
they called the big Shibuya area Station Square
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>>174084087
>Not getting the sonic shoes
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>>174083916
this is true, no matter how hard the persona 2 fags push back. good taste, anon.
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>>174084087
Ryuji is the Sonic parody, Anon.
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>>174084118
Makoto is cute as fuck, but Haru is the best wife material in the game.
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>>174084118
Romance them all to find out.
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Is it possible to gain mrs kawakami as a confident after summer? I fucked up and had no idea I could talk to her but now I can't find her in september.
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>>174083916
P4 > P3 > P5 > P1 > P2
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>>174084145
I'm pretty sure some of the games are Sega parodies.
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>>174083659
Futaba is pretty miserable
But, the cheating scene in this game is more an affirmation of your bond with Sojiro than anything else, which is fine too.
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>>174084245
Alright guess I'll wait until Haru then.

>>174084257
I plan on it but I'm just wondering who I should do next. Ann's was really cute
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>>174083042
Not exactly, gorofujos are just more active. Most fujos are into the both of them no matter which ship they prefer too.
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>>174084175
If you turn them down they're more upset.

>>174084269
Did Ryuji not call you to talk about the maids?
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>>174084186
kek
That was my first thought when I arrived there.
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>>174084350
i never finished his s link but i felt closer to him than my entire team in that moment
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>>174083242
Me too. I've been loyal to Makoto this time, but I want to go for sensei ng+.
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>>174083659

Honestly I thought Golden's was way better. Much more emotional.

5's is more played for laughs than anything.
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>>174084359
If you measure popularity by the amount of content being made then Goro is a lot more popular. If Yusuke fujos aren't active then they can't care that much.
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What's the best way to kill jewel fairies? I was able to crit some down in the bank but the ones in the pyramid block physical
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>>174084353
Makoto is cute as hell but I didn't really like her events that much because a lot of them focus on a worthless side character. It's good for Makoto's development but man I was disappointed.
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>that last id card mini boss in spaceport
If you have bad RNG the minions can all do the gun attack and your entire party dies at 340+ health.

Why the fuck is stupid RNG bullshit like that in the game? I literally died under single round
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>>174084491
in Golden they ruined the emotional aspect by having the gag scene ahead of time. It was jarring as hell, but it was P4 so I was used to it by that point. If they had done that in 5 it would've stood out a lot more.
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>>174083659
they don't punish you at all

they literally beat you into the ground but there are no lasting consequences and all of them reaffirm their desire to have you to themselves after high school when you talk to them at the end. the game even actively rewards you with a bonus sp item
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>>174084528
Equip Rangda and if possible get Recarm and Magarula on him
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>palace 2 was easy and boring
>palace 3 was tedious and dull
>palace 5 was a tedious diasater
>palace 6 is a gimmicky mess
>palace 7 is incredibly tedious and reuses the same gimmick for hours
>palace 8 is anticlimactic
So, wow. 2 good dungeons in the whole game. Was really worth bragging about having handcrafted dungeons when they're frequently less fun than the randomly generated ones.
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>>174084621
so were people memeing when they said that the girls take away the items they gave you?
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>>174084519
Well it's kind of the same with Ann since she talks a lot about Shiho and wanting to become stronger because of her. Still a little strange to me how randomly she falls in love with you but her confession is hella cute, and the valentine's day scene too.
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Let's think of Ohya's abilities that are not complete shit
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>>174084637
Did you just misgender Rangda?
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I'm hit June and Makoto is black mailing the team.
Is there any missable S.link around this time?
I already unlocked No-Good Tora, the Twins and I'm aware that the guns guy and teacher are available but I don't have enough balls to do them.
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please tell me the principal dies or something terrible happens to him
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>>174084664
what a useless opinion
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>>174084778
ye
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Post yfw Goro got rused

Wasn't just me who thought that was the hypest shit in any of the Persona games, right?
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>>174084778
he dies. not joking.
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>>174084519
Girl's social links being shit is nothing new for the series, except now it's every single female link in P5 so they're all boring so they can make the girl seem pure and pretty for you. Ann's Confidant isn't just the worst in the game, it's one of the worst in the entire series
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Where does Futaba go during the rain?
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>>174084778
He dies because something terrible happens to him.
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>>174084686
i've still got takemi's chocolate and the item that actually matters, the christmas one, is still there too

you don't get the other girls' chocolate but you still get one, which is what you would have gotten anyway if you only picked one. plus soujiro doesn't give you the pity chocolate if you don't harem up
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>>174084778
One of the first trailers has him having a stroke in the middle of the streets, senpai.
Did you also know he had no name in the JP version?
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>>174084814
it was just you P5 is dogshit anyone that disagrees is a contrarian cuck
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>>174084504
They were more active around the game's release, but there isn't much to be done with Yusuke, unlike with Goro, months after the initial release.
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>>174084778

he bribes makoto's sister into being a dean at the school to find the thieves and shes basically his bitch until you enter her palace with akechi and make her confess on him

he then kills himself before he gets questioned about the greater nyarly consipracy that shido and sojiro are a part of
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>>174084778
Yes.
He tries to redeem himself since he realizes he's on the villain's chopping block. He dies steps from the police station.
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>>174084715
She should give you the ability to get better items from enemies, tying into Morgana's pickpocket ability

At max level you're guaranteed to get an item upon basic attacking, and there's a chance that it's an equip, skill card, or SP restoration item.
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>>174084896
>he had no name in the JP version
what
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>>174084896
He has a name in this version?
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>>174084976
he's just called the Principal
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>>174084984
kobakagawa
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>>174084970
What was he gonna do at the police station?

Moreover, why didn't the truck driver see him?
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>>174084862
Gamers please
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>>174084976
>>174084984
Yes, in the JP version he is just plain "Principal".
In the western version, Atlus US decided to name him Kobayakawa for no reason at all.
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>>174084689
The only girl in the game that randomly falls in love with you is Hifumi. You literally tell her you want to fuck after she says there's no reason for the two of you to hang out anymore and when you take her out on a date she suddenly loves you from the depths of her heart.

Hifumi's co-op is really the only plain bad one in the entire game.
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i would have really rather just killed kamoshida instead of wasting time with the treasure shit, there's a waifu's chastity on the line
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>>174084608

Completely fair, I just felt terrible as a person as I one by one crushed their hearts, making them think I was cheating while I hung out with the bros instead.

It was better solely because that, If nothing else.
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>>174084814
I was grinning like a madman during the whole thing when I realized what they had done. Truly a ruse of the lifetime.
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>>174084929
That's not really true, if you like a character or pairing enough you're not just going to run out of things to fantasize about. It's just that Goro is more popular.
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>>174084519
Speaking of which, how is Hifumi Togo's romance path? Is it cute? I got up pretty high but never managed to get to asking her out
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https://strawpoll.com/rg4rfz3
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I am in Okumura's Palace.
Is level 35 too low?
This place is hard. I have Haru, Makoto, Yusuke.
My persona is a lvl 32 shiki-ouji that I've had since Kaneshiros palace.
Where can I grind, and get more exp and stuff?
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>>174085093
It's a truck. Trucks don't just stop, especially if they're in the middle of turning.
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>>174085114
Wow, never knew that. No wonder I couldn't make out any dialogue stuff about Kodakawa when I had the original Japanese voice track on the whole game.
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>>174085204
yeah it's cute

also togo system is pretty good and i don't know why it's a bonus locked behind a co op
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>>174084519
That's because with her sister being an important character, Atlus kept her biggest issue more plot-related, I still liked when she bitch slapped Eiko. Anyway, I'd have prefered to hear her talking about her father more.
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HELP I FUCKED UP

ABOUT 25 IN GAME DAYS AGO I COMMITTED TO KAWAKAMI

BUT I JUST MET FUTABA

AND IM SURE SHES THE ONE FOR ME

WHAT DO I FUCKING DO
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>>174082458
Dead boy
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>>174085359
you wish
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P5>>P4>>>>P3
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>>174085114
You'd think they'd have chosen a name that's easier for English speakers to pronounce in that case.
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>>174085207
Why the fuck do people think that doing a 'lol no they didn't die' scene is a good idea when we just did 3 or 4 (depending on who you ask) of the same stunt in this game
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>>174085347
NEW GAME AND SKIP CUTSCENES.
DO IT FOR HER.
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>>174085347
You live with your choices. That's what you get for committing too early when you know there's something else coming up that might change your fate.
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>>174085427
because some people like the character and want him back
that said, it's really interesting how divisive the topic is. it's practically split down the middle at all times.
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>>174085386

Truth.

Except the PT are the worst cast of the 3. They're like an in between of 3 and 4, so end up worse than either.

Now crucify me. I welcome it.
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>>174085427
Nobody cares about the writing, people just want to see their favorite character back
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Makoto's hips are justice
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>>174082948
Welcome to the fold. Grab your body pillow at the door.
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>>174085208
I was lvl 45 when fighting Okumura.
Mementos.
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Why did the phantoms act like the traitor death was a sad thing?
his motive doesn't excuse all of his crimes
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>>174084664
>Ruse Cruise would have been dungeon of the century if not for those constant mouse mazes bringing everything to a screeching halt

Seriously. Who thought it was a good idea to repeat that so many times?
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>>174085347
Just date Futaba and pretend like Kawakami never happened, if you really loved another girl you wouldn't care about breaking some grandma sex worker's heart.
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>tfw no persona game that lasts 80 years give or take a few

;_;
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>>174085672
they related to him
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>>174085672
you can still feel sympathy for him. it doesn't excuse his crimes, and he's certainly not a dindu, but still.
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Is there a secret request or something? I've done all the co-ops and the last one I got was some media guy which was an "Smax" request, but I still don't have the trophy.
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>>174085672
rewatch the scene and pay attention to what the anime girls are saying
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>>174085707
It exists, Anon. It's called real life. Alternatively, find a gun and point it at your head, so you can be just like Door!
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>>174085672
they sympathize because they point out without the right group to support him he ended up going fucking insane/depressed, which easily could have happened to any of them

its kind of how like you didnt have the right group of people to stop you from becoming autistic and retarded, but you dont have a talent or super power like persona, so you ended up shitposting on the internet instead of doing literally anything else
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>there will never be a girl as perfect as chidori in any persona game
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For Ann's earmuffs that you get on christmas, it says that you can become closer if you have a same arcana persona. Does that apply only to Ann and the Lovers arcana or to all your other confidants as well provided you have a persona of their respective arcana?
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Anybody else feel like half the all out attack finishers look like shit?

Makotos especially. Why is her eye on the side of her head? Yusuke's too is just meh.
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I think Persona 5 is kinda similar to digimon in terms of combat. Am I wrong?
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>>174085787
You should get it after the Mara fight from that media dude.
Are you sure you did every request you get during social links? Those are the only ones you can "miss", the rest shows up automatically even if you ignore Mishima's messages.
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>>174085672
The game wants you to feel like Goro and the Phantom Thieves are actually really similar. How, if the conditions were a bit different, had they maybe met him a bit earlier, Goro wouldn't have been handed power from the gods and driven to make terrible decisions out of spite and loneliness. That's what I gathered anyways. The means were sympathetic but that certainly doesn't excuse what he did.
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>>174085787
Maybe it's related to the Justine Caroline boss fight.
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>>174083730
>do you notice the common usage of this phrase
>nobody loves persona 5 like they do the past games, nobody thinks it's fantastic or amazing.
I do.
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>Goro is alive
Just let the time run out after reaching the boat treasure to see
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>>174085936
P3's cast is slightly better than P4 tier desu
Chidori esepcially couldn't even stay consistently attractive between the 3D model and the Soejima artwork
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>>174085947
it's explained very early on that having matching persona arcanas will level relationships faster.
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>>174085994
honestly if ryuuji hadn't been there i would have been right with morgana in just killing guys i didn't like so i didn't feel like i had much of a high horse over akechi
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>>174085998
I've beaten those sluts months ago.

>>174085978
Maybe he hasn't messaged me yet. I still have like 10 days left for shido.
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>>174085947
Just for Ann. Pretty much makes it so you never have to do anything but the event SLs for Ann even if you pick the worst answers, making it even easier to cap out every SL on NG+.
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>>174083659
P4 cheating was wayy worse.
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>>174084050
Correct answer
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>>174085707
>>174085842
Welp
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>>174085953
yeah I sort of realzed that after a bit, I really hate Makotos the most even though shes my favorite character, but for instance I think Harus is terrific but I dont really like her all that much, Yusukes is fantastic though imo
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>>174085787
The last request is the one you get after beating Shido, Mishima messages you that night.
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The few voiced lines that you hear on each floor in Mementos is the only thing that helps not drive me insane when I'm there.

>tfw I gotta fight 11 request bosses and Mementos is just so FREAKIN' BORING
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>>174085905
why are gorofags so defensive, he was just asking a question
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>>174086001
Well congratulations, you just replied to a shitposter. Your prize is this complementary (You)
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>>174085347
turn yourself into the police. futaba deserves a better protector.
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>>174086136
i was wondering what the shadow self for yu is
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>>174085994

So it's basically the whole Yu/Adachi thing again?

Ugh.
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>>174086104
As edgy as it sounds, I might've been more inclined to do the same. They were terrible people, and forcefully ripping away a piece of their cognizance, effectively brain-washing them into being someone they're not, isn't much better.
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I've finished the game and I'm looking for the Confidants to say goodbye. I already said goodbye to everyone but do I also have to say goodbye in some way to Akechi and Igor to get their key items ?
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>>174084814
One of the best scenes in any Persona game.
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>>174086252
It's called having a foil to the main character. Believe it or not it wasn't a story concept created by P4.
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>>174086161

Yeah, like half of them are really good, as you mentioned Haru's, Jokers, Goto's and Ryuji's are pretty good.

The others just feel very phoned in to me though.
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>>174086136
THAT'S TERRIBLE POOR RISE DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
Thank fuck I only played the vanilla P4 so there was no repercussion for dating multiple girls
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>>174086170
To be honest I wish we got a lot more of that Mementos banter in the rest of the dungeons.
I learned a lot about each character from them. like how Anne's boobs keep growing and now her thief outfit doesn't fit her
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>>174086343
Did you say good bye to Lavenza?
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>>174086232
In the animu Yu's shadow self is comprised of his fear of failing his comrades and being alone. However Yu has such tight control over himself that he quashes it in like 3 seconds.
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>>174086331
>isn't much better
It's literally saving people's lives. Those people are more important than the feelings of some evil fuck.
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>>174086252
I'm a Goro defender to the end, but yes. Essentially, Goro is, in my opinion, a better written and more sympathetic Adachi. But he is still Adachi in essence when it comes down to it. They're pretty close, but I thought Goro was the more interesting of the two.
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>>174086170
each mementos floor is super tiny so you just rush that shit

>>174086252
every anime hero needs a rival/foil

like how P3 MC had a guy who looked exactly like jesus as one of his main enemies

>>174086331
yeah when ann even admitted it was a fate worse than death i wondered why i just wasn't allowed to take charge and kill him
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>>174085347
you stay faithful to sensei
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>>174086170
>enter mementos when it's raining for the sweet loot
>at least 2 enemies in every corridor on the lower levels that have huge webbing subways
>run out of SP in just 2-3 floors
Is brewing coffee the only way to get SP items?
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>>174086503
S P A D H E S I V E 3
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>>174086232
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Yu_Narukami#Shadow_Type
a massive cunt
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>>174086397

No, I get that, but did they really have to do the "we're not so different" shtick for the 4th time.

They did it in 4, they did it in Arena with labrys, they did it especially in Ultimax with Sho, and now again.
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>>174086331
you don't "forcefully rip away a piece of their cognizance"

you remove a desire that's been corrupting them

it's more like supernatural therapy than brainwashing
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>>174086442

Yup, even though there was no warning in the map, I was luckuy I ran into her.

So Igor, Morgana and Akechi don't give any key item ?
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>>174086572
Morgana gives you something when you go back to the cafe
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>>174086442
>>174086343
OH FUCK YOU COULD SAY GOODBYE TO IGOR AND LAVENZA?
I HAD NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT ITEMS AND BENEFITS DO YOU MISS OUT
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so the phantom thieves are pretty much strega minus the part where they kill people
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>>174085539
That's like your opinion man and that's cool

Also I agree with half of it anyway.
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switched to the dub for my NG+ since I'll be skipping most dialogue anyway

mfw
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>>174086436
>like how Ann's boobs keep growing and now her thief outfit doesn't fit her

Wait what
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>>174086615
Only Lavenza, and you fucked up if you didn't say goodbye to her, have fun redoing Strength s.link.
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>>174086572
Morgana gives one when you go back to the cafe.
>>174086615
Item that lets you do all the fusion stuff instantly in ng+.
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>>174086472
adachi and goro have almost nothing in common outside of being protag foils (and for adachi that wasn't really a thing until p4g)

he's more like reiji or ken
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>>174086232
In all seriousness, Ultimax went with the afraid of having no friends stuff of the anime.
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>>174086615
Only Lavenza. Her item gives you every benefit the twin's social link gets you at lv10, so you missed out on quite a bit if you ever want to do NG+.
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>>174086560
>Don't worry guys I'm not completely rewriting your brain I'm just giving you "Supernatural Therapy"

Hi Zelenin. Look forward to seeing you in the Strange Journey remake.
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>>174086678
i don't like how they pronounce names but at least it's not the opposite extreme of trying way too hard to match japanese pronounciation like JYB
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>>174086683
Anne's boobs are literally the subject of almost all of her Mementos dialouge. IIRC it goes like
>"This thing is a little tight in the chest... Don't tell me they grew again!?"
and then Morgana yells at her to speak up.
The only other things going on with Anne in Mementos aside from her breasts is her strange desire to run over every single Shadow
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>>174086137
thank you i know that everyone has they favourite persona but i think every persona game is good atleast for me
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>>174086689
at least you can max it out as soon as it starts
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>>174086736
I suppose you're right. Adachi was moreso just "the world is boring and this is fun." Still, that makes Goro the more interesting of the foils regardless in my personal opinion.
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>>174086689
>>174086731
>>174086776
Phew ok I didn't max out the twins S Link so I'll do it in NG+. Still that's really helpful.

>>174086436
Gonna need proof/sauce for that spoiler
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>>174086740
it didn't really, his in battle quotes are nothing like that >>174086551 while in story mode...well, fucking nothing happened and I don't know why they even bothered to include Shadow versions in main story, such a letdown.
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>>174083916
>get ready to shitpost
>it's actually 100% correct
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>>174085114

He says this because just calling someone "Principal" sounds like they don't like him in English.
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>>174086834
>forgetting about Anne and Haru's cheerleader routine
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>>174086541
Thanks anon, you actually saved my playthrough because I was struggling hard until now.
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>>174086797
did you not pay attention, you do the same for futaba but because of the nature of her affliction shes better off, it only fucks with them permanently if theyve done truly awful things
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>>174086740

Ultimax Yu was more of a "I use my f
"Friends" To further myself/gain more power" type deal though.

That said, all the Ultimax shadows were fakes and not at all like the actual shadow selves.
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>>174086834
but the costumes are magc, shouldn't she be able to make it looser?
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>>174086457
Why is he so fucking cool to this day bros?
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this crit damage bonus is making it fucking impossible to down shadows to recruit them
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>>174086987
I think you are the one who wasn't paying attention.
You never steal Futaba's treasure, you help her come to terms with herself and her mother's death by meeting her shadow and overcoming the sphinx mom.
It's entirely different from what you do to any of the other people you fuck with, the only one that's kinda similar is Mishima's situation.
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>>174086136

>spent time with Yosuke
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>give other people revive spells
>game is instantly over when protag dies

Why is this still a thing? Like what is the logical explanation that your team can't just throw you a fucking revive item or spell?
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>>174087171
Lucky Punch, use it
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>>174086972
I didn't see that one. Now I'm sad.
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Ann and Joker are cute together! C U T E!
Ann and Joker get married in the future when Joker moves back to the city!
Ann and Joker have lots of babies together!
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>>174087214

I dunno why they still have this shit.

Even mainline threw it away outside of the hardest difficulties.
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>>174084814
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>>174083916

P5=P4>P3>P2>P1.
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>>174087214
they have no free will of their own, they need leadership
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>>174087319
Hackshino is stuck in the past
Wada will fix this
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>>174087214
It is pretty dumb that you can give party members recarm/samerecarm but they can't save you, even in lower difficulties. But the game is already pretty easy, so.
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>>174087343
SEES did have free will
I wish they didn't though
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>>174087214
Atlus seems fixated on the idea that wild cards being knocked out = death
This is why in PQ when everyone could use multiple personas the protagonist could die and things would be okay. Unless you were playing on the hardest difficulty.
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>>174087306
>wanting Anne to get fat
>depriving you of those model bucks
the first two lines are okay though

>>174087319
SMT has free save though and that's stupid. You win some you lose some.
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>>174087306
joker dies alone or hooked up with some random country slut after the girls get over their delusion and realize he's octuple timing them
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>>174087343
Why can't I tell yusuke to fuck ryuji then?
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>>174086192
Neat.

>>174086252
It's a thing Persona does. A theme for the whole series.
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>>174086834
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0nWsbYEsys2
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0lT5mmGX14m

Found the line if anyone wants to hear it.
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Anyone have a good fusion guide for persona 5? Can't find anything worthwhile on google.
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Joker vs Joker when
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>>174087448
>>174087449
>Joker doesn't claim that model pussy and womb all for himself
IIRC she's excited about wanting to go to the countryside to meet your folks, and she's happy when you say you want to get married
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>>174087195
stealing the treasure is superfluous, you dont steal saws treasure and trigger a change of heart, the only real requirement seems to be fucking with their shadow in some way
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>it's an rng crit attack on mc episode
>game over
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>>174087462
Because deep down you don't want to subject Yusuke to that kind of punishment
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>>174087445
>This is why in PQ when everyone could use multiple personas the protagonist could die and things would be okay
I thought it was because Orpheus and Messiah are weak to mudo and they didn't want side P3 to be unplayable
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>>174087608
>joker will never give people his special gift
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>>174087554
https://chinhodado.github.io/persona5_calculator/index.html#/list
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>>174087545
Rad. If you don't mind I'd appreciate either pointing me to where you found this or at least posting the cheerleader one.
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What would the schoolgirls tell their parents when they invited you over for NYE or some shit and you're in fucking jail?
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>>174087665

Pretty much.

If you're playing risky. 4MC is literally better in every way because of the defenses. And Izanagi no okami resisting Everything.
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>>174087648
>not having phys null/repel
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>>174087721
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vG1BmJFbnB
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0qFJkpjqK8O

This one?
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>>174087545
do you know where I can find all the mementos lines?
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>>174087985
10/10
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I am thou, thou art I
Thou hast changed a vow into a blood oath

Thy bond shall become the wings of rebellion
and break the yolk of thy heart

Thou has awakened the ultimate secret of
The Champ, granting thee infinite power!

Doo doo da doo

>Obtained after going into Mementos and changing JBL's heart after he'd bullied the shit out of Mauro Ranallo
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Do I have to level all over again if I start NG+?
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>>174087985
Christ Ann is such a fucking Stacy it hurts
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>they managed to make yoshitsune even MORE broken
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>>174087545
Truly the best girl
If only there was a romance epilogue where Joker and his romance get one last lovey dovey scene before he goes away
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>>174088109
yeah but you keep all your equipment and just summon high level personas from the compendium
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>>174088120
not loving her because she is a Stacy
i shiggy diggy
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>>174088125
>he even fucking acknowledges it when you fuse him
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>>174088125
>yoshitsune with arms master
I love it.
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>>174088210
What"s said?
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L.....Lharal?
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>when sae clasps her hands together and leans in
unf
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>>174088193
>Having such basic fucking taste in women

Loversfags need to end themselves.
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So in my first playthrough, I haven't officially "romanced" anyone, but I have some questions for those of you who have romanced Anne.

I've run across two story cutscenes where Anne and some other people talk about relationships.

1) In the first instance, you guys talk about marriage.
2) The second time in the hotel room in Hawaii, Anne asks what kind of girl you're into.

Do these dialogues change if you're romancing her? Otherwise, it'd be really weird, wouldn't it?
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>>174088097
>TO VINCE MCMAHON, JOBBER OF JOBBERS
>YOU ARE GUILTY OF THE SIN OF BURYING TALENT, AND YOU SHALL CONFESS YOUR CRIMES WITH YOUR OWN MOUTH.
>FROM THE RING RANGERS

>PIN YOUR HEART
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>>174088125
They really need to make him an endgame 90+ persona. That would at least justify him breaking the game so hard.

Either that or Hassou Tobi needs to be miniscule damage instead of light
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>>174088343
>implying
Anne being a stacy isn't the only reason why she's the best, Anon. It's also her slight psychotic tendencies and her eating disorder
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Is Ryuji just the best bro of the Persona series? I honestly would love to chill with him and just be bros together

I thought Yosuke was ok but man Ryuji just blows him out as best bro
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>posting about romancing ann when she and shiho are lesbians
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>>174086797
Fuck off akechi. Your dad doesn't love you btw
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Playing through P5, getting towards the end of October. I'm thinking of trying to go for a Bad Ending to do New Game + and unfuck my time management.

Do any of the bad ends actually allow you to do new game + or do I need to go for the Normal Ending to actually port my stuff over?
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>>174088471

Troll poster

fucking troll post
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>>174088472
>implying Ryuji isn't going for the Shiho rebound
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>>174088431
No, your answers shouldn't affect the romance path at all. The Hawaii dialogue choices all repeat in the same fashion with Ryuji going "oh you mean HER?" and being super general so it could be any girl.

For the marriage one if you say "of course" Ann blushes and gets really happy and it's the cutest thing, even though she only says like one line. Made me dokidoki pretty hard
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>>174088431
Hawaii doesn't change, but the following day she's relieved that they're finally away from everyone else. She's keeping it secretive.
All the PT girls react to marriage in December if you're dating them.
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>>174088472
>Implying you wouldn't get 3 ways every night with the two of them.
>>
WHAT A SKILLED GUN BOY YOU WERE TELL US HOW YOU DID IT NASTY BOY
WHERE IS YOUR EX MILITARY MURDER BUDDY WHO TAUGHT YOU THESE GUN SKILLS YOU FILTHY KILL CHILD
Sae getting mad at me making friends is really funny, do you think she'd quit her job if she new the truth about half this shit?
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Any downside to romancing everybody?
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>>174088049
Don't think anyone's uploaded them in full, so you'd have to manually rip and convert them. They're stored in ps3.cpk, in sound/dungeon/palace/voice_dungeon_10.acb/awb.

They're grouped by character, though, rather than per conversation set (each starting line has three possible responses by other characters), so they're kind of a pain to go through unless you're only looking for the initial lines or a specific response.

>>174088431
If you mean the event in December for the first one, then yeah. If you romanced one of the girls in the party, that girl reacts if you say you're interested in marriage.

I don't think the second scene you mentioned changes, but I haven't dated anyone by that point in my runs so I can't say for sure.
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>>174088531
It's a troll post but I Ryuji honestly isn't that bad to me. He isn't downright fucking pathetic like Yosuke was and is actually prone to fire back when he's getting shittalked.

Not to mention having fucking electric Sun Wukong with a punk mohawk
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Man, I really did want to like Ann but I can't comprehend how they could fuck up a character so badly. Luckily Futaba excceded my expectations and Makoto met them (in a positive way), but still. Really bummed the most heavily advertised gril turned out to be such hot garbage.
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>>174088435
10/10 would buy the DLC chapter for the price of a full game
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>>174088645
wait for the end of the game you fuck
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>>174088681
breaking their hearts
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>>174088509
No, they don't. The Bad Ends are literally just Game Overs. I also wouldn't recommend doing any of them since they have a couple details in them that are super spoilery for things happening way later in the game. Stop worrying about 100%'ing a game like this on the first playthrough and just have fun.
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>>174088702
What was wrong with Ann? I really liked her and thought she was really cute so I romanced her. Though the confession was a little lacking and I wished there were more romance scenes with her
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>>174088681
You get beaten within an inch of your life as a valentines gift. And you make Futaba cry, you monstrous fuck.
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>>174088645
i was alright with that one cop being a huge asshole to me when i realized i had like fifty guns on my person
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>>174088681
None
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>>174088645
Still fucking mad there's no special dialogue for you romancing Makote and Joker giving her a cheeky ass retort about it
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>mfw I keep declining all the invites to hang out with my confidants because I would rather keep going on dates with Makoto even though I'm already at her max SL rank (+romance option)
She's just too cute, I can't help it.
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>>174088681
only the upside of your eternal bond with Sojiro given both physical and emotional form
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>>174088612
>>174088697
>>174088602


Thanks. I guess it makes sense if the relationships are "secret", that's why they can justify no one else in your party knowing about them.
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>>174088759
Really? Damn, I was hoping that the non-game over bad ends weren't subject to it. Oh well.
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>>174088729
self-insert anime hero can make it work, no one's heart will be broken and society doesn't like harems so it's rebellion and everyone in this game has a rebellion boner
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>>174088854
Her VA is amazing.
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>>174088854
i just wanna say i though at first that her headband is part of her hair
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>yen farming consists of Confusing a boss, guarding, using Confuse again, with no way of tracking how much money you've got
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Why is this asshole so much harder than Adachi and Ameno-sagiri?
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>>174088509
Can confirm that you can start NG+ from the bad endings, though I'm not sure if you get all of the bonuses (I know for sure that you miss out on being able to fuse Satanael, as that only unlocks if you got the true ending, but I'm not sure about the bonus boss fight), and you definitely miss out on the items for getting each character to rank 10.

Other than that, the same things as usual carry over, so if you're just looking to start over with a bit of a headstart, you could definitely go for one of the bad endings.
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>>174088884
I honestly wish that your relationships weren't secret. It'd be nice to hear your companions mention how cute you two are together, or poking fun at you two for being lovebirds and seeing your girl get flustered or something. Would be really cute
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>>174088701

To be fair, at least Yosuke was actually pretty intelligent when it mattered. Ryuji is dumb as a rock.

Still best bro though.
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>>174088964
NANOMACHINES, SON
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>>174088964

Aegis Reflector
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>>174088857
that rancid piece of chocolate will never leave my pocket

>>174088952
i just held guys up a lot, demanded money, then followed up with an all out attack to milk the rest of the money out of them
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>>174088950
hold up it's fucking not
i spent almost all of the cutscenes wondering how the hell she got that hair to work
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>>174089045
maybe Futaba could debuff your girlfriend out of jealousy
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>>174088952
>he can't use a calculator
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>>174089106
Is that also a good way to make money? The Confuse method yields 50k to 70k yen each drop but there's no guarantee. It's also just kinda boring.
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>ann about to get raped
>shiho was raped
>makoto almost gets raped
>haru will be sold off to a man who wants to rape her
>ouyas friend was raped until she was mindbroken
>makotos friend almost gets forced into prostitution
>teacher works as a prostitute

What the fuck is going on here? Are tae, hifumi and chihaya my only options?
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>>174087213
Otp
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>>174089109

check the art book. It's a hair band
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>>174088964
WHY WONT YOU STAY DOWN
COGNITIVE EXISTENCE SON
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>i'm a human
>but i'm gonna sleep on your dick tonight, guy i just met
morgana's such a fucking whore

>>174089182
i dunno i came out of a normal mementos run to get a few targets with 300K by doing that, with chihaya's money bonus, but it's probably not as fast or efficient
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>>174089193
Tae is a cake, Chihaya is a cake, hifumi is autistic
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>>174089193
>Not wanting to teach the victimized girls what true love making is really about
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>>174089227
>p4 vannila
oi get that away from face
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>>174089193
>keyword being "about to" and "almost"
Ann, Makoto, and Haru are all pure, you take their virginities on Valentines when they stay over
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Where do I find Crystal Skull?
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>>174089193
Or, you know, you could go with actual best waifu.

Just kidding. Futaba a best, as are all waifus.
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>>174089428
futaba is like 12
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When does pic related contact you again?

I'm at Rank 8.5 and she said she's "taking a break" and isn't available
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>>174089349
for all of kamashiro's faults, he has a powerful body and probably a big penis

then again maybe he's the kind of selfish lover that just wants to get his shit off and is bad in bed. also rape is probably pretty bad
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>>174088435
YOU'LL NEVER STEAL MY HEART!
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>>174088778
I think it's mostly that I just found her social link tremendously disappointing after having such high hopes. Her voice acting is meh imo, and I find it especially wonky when she's not being mellow. Also she seems to bear very little plot relevance in comparison to Makoto and Futaba, which again I find weird since she's the most heavily advertised female. Admittedly, I haven't even finished her slink so maybe my opinion will change, and I also plan to play in japanese for ng+ so the va argument could also be thrown out.
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>>174088702
In which way? She's pretty much a "what you see is what you get" type of character. It annoyed me that after her good intro, she just falls into "the pretty girl" trope though.
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>>174089229
where the fuck did she find a hairband that exactly matched her hair color anyway
>>174089227
I miss that pissfilter so much, removing it was a mistake and only highlighted how ugly the models are. I hope that when they decide to remake P4 one day, they will still use it.
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>>174089501
did you do her mementos request
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>>174089501
Did you have the event in the school already?
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>>174087306
>I'VE ALWAYS LOVED YOU!

Joker is cute
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>>174088964
Both of those bosses were always immensely easy. Ameno Sagiri only ever became an annoyance due to SP consumption.

Having soloed the boss on hard Shidou's first phase is actually way harder than the subsequent ones when you can't damage it fast enough to skip most of the moveset. For 2 and 3, you can put on a persona that reflects physical and render one of his two turns useless. The third phase does get pretty hard towards the end once he brings out the almighty damage, but he should never use debilitate unless you have more than one man on the team.

The first phase meanwhile, aside from making you rotate personas puts you in a situation where the pyramid can one shot you from full health because there's no way in hell you'll kill it fast enough to skip his charge, and the cannon shots will down you in two hits as well.

Had flashbacks to P3 endgame tbqh
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>>174086572

Aketchi and "Igor" can't give you any items because they're dead. Even if they could you'd get no value from Aketchi's item because all his confident does is unlock his party member skills, which don't transfer to NG plus anyway.

Same with Igor, his skill are plot mandated, athough you will get the ehanced Persona stock by default.
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>>174089547
maybe she made the hairband out of her hair
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>lvl 45 elephant-ish humanoids in the outer space palace cast the instant-kill curse spell
>it has a pretty high success rate
>they can cast it on Joker
>instant game over the second Joker is knocked out
What the actual fuck. Nice design Atlus.

I know they are weak to bless, but since Joker is the only one with bless spells, I need to
>ambush them every time
>pray to RNG gods Joker does not miss the bless skills
>demand items/money since all-out won't kill them
Rinse and fucking repeat. If by some reason they manage to ambush me (which is not that unlikely, considering those useless airlocks dump you right in front of the enemy) it's game over.
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>>174089528
I wonder when the opening animation was made, because it's strange that the most plot relevant characters are barely shown in it while the least relevant ones are the focus.
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>>174089528

Not Anon you responded to, but all the party member social links are pretty poor.

Except Haru's, because that's literally her only characterization
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>>174089631
sounds weird but plausible
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>>174089547

She has a pretty normal hair color. The band was probably made with that in mind. This really shouldn't be a source of confusion
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>>174089635
fuse a curse resistant persona you retard
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>>174089635
just null curse

also are you failing ambushes regularly? this isn't like an actual stealth game. hell if you're in cover you're completely invisible, if the shadow actually touches you it won't trigger
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>>174089182
the easiest way to get money is to set the game to safety and then farm the two red angels right before Yaldy with hifumi's money bonus on. You get 100k per fight (or 50k if you fuck up).
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morgana you fucking nigger cat, it would take me literally two seconds to get a soda from the vending machine or check out the lottery, leave me alone
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>>174089628
You forgot the worst part of Shidou's fight is you have this shit tier music blaring in the background

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KukSVxgsQkg
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>>174089528
I find her nip voice just okay.
Why do you think she, Yusuke and Ryuji were introduced first? Because they aren't related to the main conflict. It would affect the game's flow.
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>>174089510
[GLASS SHATTERS]
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I wonder if hifumi sees herself as a queen in bed. I wouldn't mind her autism if she wanted to roleplay.
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>>174089048
Oh yeah for sure between Junpei and Yosuke he's easily the dumbest best bro character but he has a never back down attitude I can appreciate that lets me overlook it somewhat
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>>174089528
Yeah I get what you mean. I did find the S Links in general to be kind of lacking. The only good parts I liked from Ann's were her romance events on Christmas and Valentine's, they were really cute. But other than that it was kind of boring, though nice to see how she models and stuff and if you like flashy girls like I do it's nice to see your girlfriend be a total babe in game.

Though to be fair I thought Ann was the most attractive character in terms of looks by far in P5, so I was basically smitten when I first saw her and had to romance her. I just expected more substance with her events and SLinks.
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>>174089940
way too obvious
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>>174089993
>queen and a court jester
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>>174089045
I'd like that. Kind of like the non-romance reactions from your team on Valentine's day in P4G.
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>>174088702
>Futaba
All this tells me is that you're a repulsive loser who needs a girl to be borderline retarded and completely dependent on you in order for you to feel loved in any way.
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>>174089501
same thing, its summer but i just want the fucking 10th event so I can get massaged after momentos to take a goddamn bath for Makoto.

Am I seriously gonna have to wait until school comes back to get it?
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>>174090023
>expected more substance
>from a persona character
There's your problem
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>i'm having nightmares
>here boy have some painkillers
>actually i'm out of those
>have some benzos instead
takemi is not a good doctor
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Post some FUTAba if you catch my drift
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>>174089045
>romance Makoto really fucking quick
>beach trip happens
>all the girls, including Makoto, diss MC (and ryuji) for "being lame in the real world" and "being unable to capture a girls heart"
>hawaii trip happens
>ryuji keeps bitching how lonely you both are and how you really need to find a girlfriend
>MC just agrees with everything and even goes with the plan to pick up girls at the beach
I mean, I'm not expecting much, but just one line new line of dialogue would be nice, instead of the usual "what happens in S-Link, stays in S-Link" meme.
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>>174090176
she'd fit right in in America
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>>174088573
What is this ryujixshiho meme? Have missed some dialogue or something? it would be cute though. Ann can occasionally join in on the fun
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>>174089474
That's okay. Most of /pg/ likes older women.
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>>174089474
Wrong, she is 13
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>>174090282
she's 15
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>>174090328
Futaba is 18 years old and ready to fuck
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tfw no fat girl s.link
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>>174086834
Theres also Morgana's statement that she has a soft ass.
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>>174090278
I'm just fucking around. It's not like Shiho x Anne is any more likely, and it's 100% in character for Ryuji to go after literally any woman he can.
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>>174090219
Your romance should message you in Hawaii for a private get together afterwards though
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>>174088573
>going for Kamoshida's sloppy seconds
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>>174090384
Kozy is cute!
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>ms kawamaki is only 26 but considered 'over the hill'

this... is the power... of japan...
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>>174090378
>18rtf
i agree
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Akechi's eyes are freakish in his mask what the hell
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Anyone have a screencap of Futaba in battle?
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>>174090447
>being a cake before you graduate from high school

what a sad fate, no wonder she jumped
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what is everyones favourite palace villain
i say kamoshida
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>>174089776
I never failed an ambush outside of the outer space palace. I still pull them off like 90% of the time, but when the airlocks dump me in the middle of a long ass corridor with no cover whatsoever and 2 enemy patrols on each side, there's not much I can do.
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>>174089993
Femdom is disgusting and also the reason why I never put up with taes bullshit. That slut can drug up another young stud if she's so fucking desperate.
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>>174090498
She only has a couple years before she can't bear healthy children.
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>>174090498
Anything 25 is over the hill, nobody wants to eat a christmas cake after christmas
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>>174090567
Shido and Kamoshida are tied. Kamoshida just felt a lot more believable than the other guys for whatever reason.
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>>174090498
if you're not married by 25 it's over for you
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>>174090567
Kamoshida is definitely the one that hits the hardest. Fubata was great though, as was Shidou. And Sae had a top tier design and her boss fight was fun.
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>>174090590

The enemies have shit field of vision. Just run behind one of them or the far corner out of their sight
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How many goddamn mouse labyrinths are there
Holy hell
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>>174087445

It seemed to be because of the auto party control that nobody in their right mind would use but they insist on having. If protag is knocked out and nobody on the team can revive him player control is effectively done and you're at the mercy of the AI.

Q didn't have auto control so that's why they didn't do it except for a difficulty measure.
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>>174090635
oh i am laffing
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>>174090706
Didn't seem nearly as long on my third playthrough as it did on my first. But the gimmick does overstay its welcome. At least Goro and Shidou are there to redeem the dungeon.
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>>174090498
hmm...... understood..... your move.................
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>>174090439
Yeah, that happens, but that's just a scripted event that happens outside of the "main story", same as the Valentines / Christmas date.
It's just disappointing the girl you romance can get flustered just by sitting next to you one day, and then treat you like a colleague the very next. A minor complaint, but I guess recording a few extra lines of dialogue is too much work.
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>>174090832
They don't have to record new voiced lines, they just have to have lines in there.
Which they do very late in the game.
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>>174090659
because he directly affects everyone you know up to that point and you have a personal investment in taking him down
nobody makes you as furious as kamoshida does
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>>174090104
That was me. I am firm believer that Futaba is solely for protecting, and nothing else.
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Which boy would most deserve to mating press female joker?
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>>174090946
That's not true though. I hated Shido a hell of a lot more, but Kamoshida was still more memorable.
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>>174090384
>Who is Anne?
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>>174090972
Even Sojiro doesn't agree with that if you max his co-op
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>>174090973
Goro
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hello, I'm Yusuke. My hobbies include painting and standing in the train station staring at people
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>>174090189
Explain.
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>>174091021
i didn't resent shido enough so didn't feel satisfaction in taking him down

also his palace was stupid
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>>174089981
Oh hey, it's Stone Cold Kajita Mafia
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>>174091060
Goro is GAY
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>>174090973
>a girl with glasses and a death stare that has a secret terrorist alter ego with a completely different personality
Wait is this just Shimoneta
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>>174090973
goor
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>>174091068
best boi
helps that sugita is absolutely perfect for the role too
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>>174091097
Goro is Jokersexual
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>>174090973
Iwai
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>>174090973
Mishima.
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>>174090783
It's my first playthrough, and it's getting kinda annoying.
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>>174091068
My hobbies include staring at Yusuke.
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>>174090973
goro
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>>174091068
people watching*
it's an artistic endeavour
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>>174090973

Morgana
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>>174090973
Daddy
Iwai
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>>174090973
Where did Joker panties go?
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>>174090973
Ryuji
you romance him at Hawaii instead of through his social link, he forgets that you're even a girl
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>>174090973
Who would female joker's persona even be?
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>>174090973
now that i think about it would Kamoshida try to sexually assault her
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When does Persona 5 get good? The gameplay is putting me to sleep. As an SMT vet this is the most boring SMT game I've ever played. Persona 3 is what I consider my personal favorite RPG. It wasn't perfect, and I've played far better RPGs (even better SMT games) but it just hit all the right buttons for me. Persona 5 is in every way a step back so far besides story and characters. Suggesting that it's game of the year potential, much less one of the best Persona games is laughable. The gameplay is atrocious to me so far, and has completely rid itself of what made previous Persona's (both old and new type) so endeari-shouldn't you be getting to bed? We don't have time for that.
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>>174091390
Do Persona have to be gender locked or do we just assume they have to be

>>174091435
>14 days until mating pressed
stakes would be even higher desu
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>>174091068
best boy
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>>174091435
too frumpy
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Why is it that Yusuke love watching people so much?
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>>174091348
I wonder if Ryuji would be a good boyfriend
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Am I fucked for pic related?

Apparently you need to trigger a school event to go do her Mementos request but the school thinks I'm dead/MIA so I can't even go to it.
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>>174091390
Rebecca
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>no doujin of full vanilla clothed sex with Makoto in her house
>with a short epilogue where Joker describes everything that we just witnessed to Sae during the interrogation
God dammit japan.
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>>174091469
wait a fucking minute there's no way you're a SMT vet and you think that P3 has better combat than P5
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>>174091550
Yep, better luck next run.
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>>174090973
and who will be her voice actor
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>>174091523
He'd probably try really hard to be but mostly fail. Still cute though.
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>>174091390
Fujiko Mine
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>>174091639

yukiko
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>Noticed the angel in Kamoshida's castle was a little odd, treated you better than most demons in negotiation and didn't explicitly refer to Kamoshida as his lord, but said he served an even greater power.
>Figured this was just a silly way of showing that even when a shadow of an angelic being is chained to a palace they are still complete LAWfags in the end
>mfw I just realized he was referring to Yaldy

Do other angels get unique interrogations too?
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>>174091471
>Do Persona have to be gender locked or do we just assume they have to be
They usually are.
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>>174091519
it's a good way to get a sense for how people look and move if you're trying to capture that in a drawing
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>>174091550
you can squeeze it in at the very end of the game
but I have to ask how the fuck did you go through so much of the game without the best ability
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>>174091390
Arsene but pink
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>>174090783
>Third playthrough
Anon, I love this game, but for what purpose? You must have seen everything the game has to offer by now right?
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>>174091587
wake me up when this happens
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>>174091519
As an artist, I do, too.
It's always a good idea to observe real people to use it for realism. Even anatomy.
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>>174091519
It's an artist thing. Nailing what makes a human 'human' is exactly how you don't end up with all of your work looking like Mass Effect Andromeda.
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>>174091608
>taking the bait
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>>174091471

Well, FEMC has a chick Orpheus, so a chick Arsene obviously.
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>>174090973
>not forcing shinya into a leglock so he can't escape when he figures out that something is happening to his little body
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>>174089193
you can add goro to this list desu
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>>174091550
Yes you do.

However I did the mission just before the school year ended and even did rank 9, but the bitch won't pick up the phone even on friday and saturday.

I just want to get rank 10 so I can do futaba/some momentos missions while also taking some baths for makoto.

Is she gone for the summer?
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>>174090670
Only in anime. And not anymore
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>Shadow Fukurai on hard
Jesus fucking christ man what a load of shit. Thank god for Makotos energy shower (so ong as she didn't get hit), that brainwash was consistently hitting 3-4 people then followed up with a 300+ dmg Mapsi. Broken as FUCK.
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>>174091645
Unironically that's my type and I love dorks
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>>174091608
In Persona 3 you have freedom to do things. SMT games are also far, far harder. Persona is a more mainstream take, so it's easier, but it's never been this mind numbingly dull and easy. The first dungeon put me to sleep. Currently I'm in May and the game is on fucking rails. If you've ever played Persona 3, you'd know you always have choice and it's never on rails.

I also question why you go into dungeons after school rather than at night. Doing so after school gets in the way of social links and school activities. It rids itself of the day/night theme that made P3 so addictive. There was balance between day gameplay and night gameplay. This game feels so restrictive in what you can do because of this design choice.

So far, this is the worst Persona I've played and I've played em all.

The first palace sucked. I was actually bored. Bored while playing an SMT game. How is that even possible?
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>>174091703
>twice in jp, didn't even finish all co-ops
>once in english so far
>probably two more times in english because I went through none of the NPC stories in any version of the game
>still have only done solo all bosses, no Arsene only or game over on sight challenges
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I'm kinda worried about the next games in terms of the grooves, anons. P5 got the music so right, how the fuck can they possibly keep it at this level next time?
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>>174091639
Miyuki Sawashiro
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>>174091696
Persona 5 isn't exactly a challenging game.

But the game mandates you do so much stupid shit to max your stats on first playthrough, and I'm never gonna guide scum (except for Strength confidant) so it is what it is.

I ended with maxing Iwai, Futaba, Makoto, Haru, Ann, Tae, Ohya, Twins, and Chihaya.

Where'd I go wrong?
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>>174091971
god yes please
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>>174085347
You stop having shit taste and thinking lewd things about your precious imouto
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>>174092001
Iwai and Ohya are useless
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>max Makoto SL
>her persona turns into some lame ass Transformers
Can we please go back to the cool female-pope motorcycle? Even her new pose is decent at best, nothing could possibly beat her animation of jumping on her persona mid air and using a skill.
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>>174090431
Yeah, but how cute would it be if ryuji and shiho could train together and help each other overcome physical trauma they've both been through
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>>174090973
>Goro can end up falling for her
>The police station scene becomes sad as fuck as he's genuinely conflicted with choosing between her and his revenge as she or the cognitive her just sits there gently smiling at him.
>Animu scene is him saying he's sorry as he chooses vengeance and tearfully puts a bullet in her head

Would actually like to see that.
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This was one of the best designed boss fights
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>>174091683
Why does this picture use cognitive goro's portrait, make it accurate, man
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>>174082043
So why do people like Makoto again? She seems very bitchy during her introduction and pretty stupid with the whole mafia thing she does. Not to mention she never apologizes for the blackmail but just for getting them into trouble and its all over the e-mail.

The whole Kaneshiro palace seems like a very shitty introduction where literally for 3 days during the first investigation Joker doesnt say a single word but just listens to the gang chatting.

Wasn't Joker supposed to be the leader? Also suddenly Makoto joins without even discussing it with the party like she decides that herself and everyone goes with it.

Also a question - I know I cant hang with her yet since I didn't finish the palace but she requires knowledge at lvl 3 right?

She said to me that she doesn't see how hanging out with Joker can benefit her (even though my Joker had lvl 3) Is that some bug with the text or something? Just curious.

She looks like the worst girl though. Annoying, bitchy and too full of herself.

Does Makoto get better or does she stay as the worst girl?
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>>174092128
The boss looked doofy as hell
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>>174092128

Ryuji + Tarukaja + Swift strike. GG WP
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>>174091856
You have good taste, anon.
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>>174084664
Maybe the palaces weren't dugeons meant to be cleared in one go?
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>>174085427
Honestly I just want him back....so he can go to jail, become the prisioners' bitch and suffer until he dies; fate worse than death is all he deserves
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>>174091471
Futaba's ultimate Persona, Prometheus, is male. So no, not always.
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>>174092001
You didn't prioritize Kawakami
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Doing a new playthrough testing mic,

http://thereisno.stream
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>>174092226
t. Anne
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>>174092096
But people were like, "he has the best story and his unlocks are good" so I had no choice but to grind hamburgers.

At least with completely max'd stats next playthrough should be much more fun.
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>>174092256
go away
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If they're going to make a female MC in P5, she wouldn't look like a genderbent Joker.
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>>174092097
Idk man, imo the transformer is the farthest thing from lame. But i do miss the bike animation, that shit was spicy
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>>174092112
If this doesn't happen in a feMC route I'm suing
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>>174091195
I'd play female joker just to fug daddy.
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>>174092287
DELET THIS
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>>174092287
>Genberbent Joker

Just use Tales of Berseria's Velvet for Fem!Joker and call it a day.
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>>174092031
ok i listened how she sounds and its preety good
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I was actually very interested in hifumi until she became a rowdy and started spazing out while playing. Is there a girl like her that's kinda calm and soothing to be around without all the autism?
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>>174091683
I'm pretty sure all angels get the LAWfag interrogation talking about the heavenly father.
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>>174092128
That fight is a complete throwaway, literally how is it well designed at all? It's just spam Guard and buffs while you wait for her to be shot down and then attack her, rise rinse and repeat. It's probably the worst boss fight in the game.
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>>174088964
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>>174092360
>tfw no usable Loki where you can berserk your teammates
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>>174092220
Not that anon, but why would you ever waste more than one day on a palace? Outside of those that force you to, like Madarame or Futaba?

I'd rather slog through the palace in one day so I can use all the remaining time on SL and chilling at LeBlanc. Gameplay was never a selling point of any Persona game, even if they clearly improved it in P5.
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>>174092168
this is bad bait, bucko
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>>174092112
won't happen, that's not in-character at all
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>>174092360
That Loki is pretty fucking neato.
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>>174092376
That's actually a pretty good idea. Her design is pretty good and she'd finally have a good game to star in.
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>Kaneshiro
>gluttony
I mean he's fat and all but I really thought the bank and money thing was greed
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>>174092376
Velvet is nothing like Joker, though. And her VA already voices someone in the game.
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>>174092393
haru is a healing presence

also hifumi's chuuni bit is a gag that crops up at best once at the end of each session, it's not that bad
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>>174092168
(You)
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>>174092413

Wait till Crimson.

Honestly even if they don't give you groo back they'll definitely give Protag Loki like Golden gives you Magastu Izanagi.

Then you can cast desperation on your party.
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>>174092484
Kaneshiro just wants to hoard and hold on to everything he has, he doesn't really have any more ambitions than that.
Okumura is greed because he constantly desires more and more.
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>>174092256

girl?
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>>174092565
desperation isn't the berserk skill reeeeee
the berserk skill is frenzy/rampage invitation
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>if you are fated to move on past this point
Oh so now I start NG+ because I'm a super shitter, cool
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>>174092425
>>174092562

How is this bait? I just got to makoto and wanted to hear some opinions on her since I didn't like her very much.

I don't understand this Makoto fanclub.
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>>174092465
I'm upset that they scrapped his DeSu2 design but you're right, he does look fucking radical. I just wish he was as tall as he was in the concept art.
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>>174092484
wait what the fuck
is each of the palaces leading up to mementos based on one of the 7 sins?
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>>174092530
But how would she be in a relationship? Considering she loves shogi and you'd occasionally play with her she'd probably go full autism on you aswell. I can't romance someone like that. II hope I get to haru soon then, maybe she's more my type.
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>>174092448

It wasn't in character for Shinjiro to fall for anyone or Adachi to geniunely start to like Yu in his own twisted way either.
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>>174092638

Same lmao.

I only use her because of Diarama and Frei attacks, if she dind't have any of those i would use Morgana instead of her.
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Is Sojiro's confidant secretly one for Futaba? Because it's better than her own and more concerning for her than the guy who talks about curry and coffee all day.
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MAJI KA?!
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>>174092661
Why would they keep his DeSu 2 design for someone's unique persona?
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>>174092638
>you just got to Makoto
Considering she literally apologizes for the blackmail multiple times as soon as you go through the first Kaneshiro sequence, no I'd say you are indeed baiting.
Here's your (You).
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>>174092128
Literally the easiest and most basic boss fight in the game.
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>>174092565
desperation is just a generic +atk -def self-buff, shadow sae has it too

you're thinking of frenzy's invitation/call of chaos
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>>174092638

I agree with you, and I say that as someone who lived her pre-release.

A large part of it is that her introduction is awful, her problems seem like a joke compared to the others, and her social link is shit.
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>>174092738
it's a textbook example of how they handle male/female storylines in persona
>female: make her cute and endearing at all costs, this is the ultimate point of this social link/confidant
>male: tell a story that fleshes out the character more, for better or for worse
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>>174092756
I just wish they didn't use Loki at all for Goro because I wanted him to keep what he looked like in DeSu. But with Atlus probably reusing the models for the next 10 to 15 years I doubt we'll ever see his second design again.
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>Lucifer's starting level is 93
>93

Why do these Japanese nerds love the occult so much?
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>>174092360
Kinda funny how Goro is legit #Broken but Loki just pops up calmer than a dead guy. What's up with that
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Why is everyone in the team so likeable?
Except Mona. Fuck Mona.
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>>174092638
>>174092725
>exactly a minute apart
>the same writing style, including the forced empty line of text after every sentence
Really makes me think.
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>>174092889
>he thinks Atlus will reuse the persona design for Loki for anything outside persona
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>>174092943
They're less likeable than SEES and IT
Worse cast in the series, all of them hint at interesting issues and dilemmas then never explore them, they're all aggravatingly stupid
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>>174092927
I dont get it
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>>174092668
Shadow Kamoshida = Lust
Shadow Madarame = Vanity/Vainglory
Shadow Kaneshiro = Gluttony
Shadow Futaba = Sloth
Cognitive Wakada = Wrath
Shadow Okumura = Greed
Shadow Shido = Pride
Mementos = Sloth
Yaldabaoth = Despair/All Sin
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whats good alice skilset
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>>174092696

I dunno, Shinjiro kind of, but Adachi obviously had some sort of desire for "muh bonds" considering he considered Dojima a true friend even before golden.
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>>174092623

Which only causes them to cast desperation on them self. Which has the same black aura that Loki makes.

That's what Berserk is.
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>>174092938
how can you even tell, it doesn't have a face. also it's posing weird too
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Are the Persona Arena games anything interesting story wise ?

I don't know if I have patience to watch it on youtube. I already gave up on watching Dancing All Night because of how much VN it is.
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https://twitter.com/Kaneki_Keni/status/851530908360470534
how the fuck does this work
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I'm at rank 6 for Mishima SL.

How much longer until he hands me a trench coat and asks for help in shooting up the school?
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>Just finished Ann's Confidant
Man, Mika really should have been the Lovers here, her story could actually have been way more compelling than Ann's with a bit of effort.
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>>174093008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/93_(Thelema)

Also the number that the Phan-Site hovers around after you defeat Yaldy with Satanael is 66.6%
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>>174093023
yaldabaoth is sloth, he's mementos' treasure
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>>174093086
Not really
If you want to get the gist of everything watch Yosuke's, Aigis's, Naoto's, and Labrys's stories for P4A
Don't bother with P4AU it's shit
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>>174093048
goro casts desperation on himself in the second fight while he has the berserk too up so it's obviously 2 different skills. you see him use frenzy's invitation before his first boss fight.
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>>174093086

They're just as An as DAN.

Arena 1 is pretty decent, and Labrys' story is legitimately very good.

Ultimax is not, however.
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>>174090126
Yes, she's on break for the summer.

But her Hawaii date is one of the best so it's worth it.
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>>174093074
That's what I mean. Goro is flailiing all over the place, screaming and bending backwards while Loki just ends up sitting on his sword while raising a hand in some kinda dismissing fashion. Sort of odd is all
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>>174093086

Arena one isn't too bad.

Ultimax proceeds to then be the worst written shit ever.
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>>174093092
Lo tiene en el ano
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>>174092997
this is bait but desu i kind of agree
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>>174093120
Ai is superior Sixhead girl.
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>>174093164
Notice how there's "All Sin" next to him. Also take note of Mementos having Sloth next to it.
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>>174092857
Futaba's had a hard life.

Why is Shidou so damn evil? Like he claims to get high in life you need to do morally questionable things but some of the shit he does is just so damn petty and pointless, unrelated to politics.
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>>174093249
How is it bait then? Stop fucking calling all criticism of P5 bait, this is getting beyond pathetic
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>>174093086
Labrys' story mode is great but it's also 2 hours of pure VN with a single short fight at the end
and you need to watch at least 4 hours of other story modes to get the full story, and this is just Arena.
Ultimaxs story mode will make you cry with how fucking awful it is.
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>>174093023
Is one of the sloths supposed to be acedia? And what the fuck was cavum?
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>>174093290
Because he's a villain in a video game.
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>>174093290
>some of the shit he does is just so damn petty and pointless, unrelated to politics.
Sounds familiar.
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>>174093343
cavum is emptiness/hollowness, it's never named in game
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>>174093147
Also
>Finish Ann's confidant platonically
>She still calls you her light
Man, I guess they were really expecting you to romance her, huh.
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>>174093290
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>>174093180

Frenzy's Invitation isn't actually an legtimate game skill that does anything.
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>>174093023
Each Palace being based on a single sin makes a lot of sense when you consider this is all Yaldabaoth's game and they are all aspects of him.
I wish they had made a bigger point of that in the game.

>>174093164
He is the resulting combination of all of them, Sloth is merely one of many things he stems from.
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>>174093316
it was an obvious exaggeration that had some truth to it, it's bait
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>>174092762
As I said I just got her. Doing the palace in one go now. Before completing it she only apologized through e-mail for getting them into trouble and didnt mention the blackmail so I asked if she gets better because now she is shitty.

>>174092725
Kinda a shame, her design is quite cool. I was really hoping she gets better.

>>174092856
The worst part about the introduction is Joker staying silent every single day the story moves on with makoto. It felt pretty shitty.

>>174092946
Must be sad to be this delusional. As makoto would say - I feel proving anything to you won't be of any benefit to me so here's a (you) :^)
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>>174093374
you're just a platonic most important man in her life
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>>174093412
I'm not exaggerating, if you "kind of agree" then what part do you not agree with that you think is going too far
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>>174093343
Cavum is the sin of emptiness, sometimes called sorrow or despair (Tristitia), and is often connected to the sin of suicide. It's Goro's sin.
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>>174093374
Yeah, I went rank 10 platonic and it was the single most relationship-ish ending to any of them.
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>>174092965
>he thinks the biggest jews in the RPG world won't reuse assets
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>mfw I just literally fused a Ghost Rider persona
This game is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojwY8p7QnaM
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>get harus ultimate persona
>it's mother harlot

What a hussy.
>>
Man I hate having to go through the end of a failed game, it's just so depressing going through the nonsense when I know I'll just have to restart
What do I keep in NG+?
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>>174093379

There's a difference between collateral damage and just being a dick to someone with no gain.

Trying to convince Futaba that her mother's death was her fault to make her suicide doesn't get him anything.

Its' not like Armstrong was walking around the city punching random people into smears on the wall.
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>>174093473
they're not the worst cast in the series and they're certainly not all aggravatingly stupid, but you're right that their issues either aren't explored in a satisfying way or are just straight up forgotten about
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>>174093269
mementos is a dungeon, it's not representative of a sin on its own

yaldabaoth is its treasure, he's specifically the manifestation of mankind's sloth

did the localization fuck this shit up too or something because the jp version was pretty explicit about that in lavenza's explanation
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>>174093552
Hell Rider is one of my favorite Personas. Now i just need to figure out how to get One Shot Kill and Weak Spot Aim on him.
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>that sexual feeling when you rank 10 a social link

Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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>>174093552
This your first purseowner/SMT?
How you liking it?
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>>174093539
Have they ever reused a unique persona design for another game before?
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>>174093602
Equipment, skill cards, cash, your compendium, and any goodbye items you got from the true ending.
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>>174093413
>gets called out
>y-you are just s-shitposting
Smooth.
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>>174093487

I thought it was Futaba's.
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>>174093602
How the fuck did you fuck up?

The only place you COULD have fucked up is right after they say THE GAME IS GOING TO PROGRESS IN A LARGE WAY SOON, DO YOU WANT TO SAVE and then in a conversation with Igor.
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Okay faggots. Pick one out of these choices:

Junpei
Yosuke
Ryuji
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>>174093631
the localization called futaba's sin sloth
>>174093728
she didn't have one named in the jpn version. goro didn't, either.
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>>174093680
What about levels and social stats?
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>>174093659
No, and we already know they're willing to make different models for SMT, as the Switch game has Doi Odin while P5 has Kaneko Odin.
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>>174093631
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Persona_5_Bosses

In Gnosticism, the Demiurge is the complete opposite of the true God and his heavenly host.
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>>174093659
does the orpheus and izanagi dlc count
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>>174093765
yosgay
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>>174093602
Your social stats (knowledge, guts, etc), cash, skill cards, confidant key items, and persona compendium.
Literally how do you fail in this game though, you can't do everything in a single playthrough anyways when there is content locked behind NG+. Just continue and do the Social Links you didn't get around to the second time through.
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>>174093728
Futaba's is wrath, her palace is reffered to as that.
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>>174093765
Ryuji is the reason why i'm still playing P5
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>>174093765
Junpei

Actual character growth and goes for his own waifu with his OWN TWO HANDS.
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>>174093616

Different Anon here, but IMO, problem is they try to have in story development like persona 3, but sort of just drop it after a specific"arc" is finished. Then it tries to have a bulk of development in social links like 4, but those social links for the most part are frivolous and frankly, pretty bad as a whole.
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>>174092638
Alright, i'm on mobile but i'll try to counter some of those points.

Yes, she apologizes profusely for getting the gang into the shitty situation, and that assumedly that also covers the blackmail idea that got them into trouble in the first place. Yes it's over text but does that really make a difference? To me it does not.

The Kaneshiro palace introduction is basically the same as literally every other palace introduction, so if you don't like this one I can't see how'd you like this one, as well as pick Makoto's as being particularly weak.

She joins to help take down Kaneshiro and the group is more than willing to accept her because of her supposed intelligence.

Not super sure why you can't start her slink, I assume you do have to finish her palace and yes, it requires knowledge 3 to start and max charm to finish.

I don't see her as bitchy at all, rather just a tad strict as she fulfills the "team mom" role, and she certainly isn't full of herself as she has a driving force to prove herself not useless.

So yeah, this probably isn't the perfect response and I could probably type something better if I was at home. You're certainly allowed to not like a character, but I can't see how Makoto is "worst girl", looking at her character as well as seeing how relevant she is to the plot .
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>>174093765
Ryuji, obviously. Junpei and Yosuke are both loser shitheads, and Ryuji is only treated by the group like a loser shithead.

Ryuji is also the cutest.
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>>174086930
I think you mean GET LEADY
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>>174093728
"Igor" specifically says Futaba was wrath when you beat her dungeon. The trophy backs this up. While Cognitive Wakaba is the one that actually represents it, that's just a product of Futaba's subconscious - thus, her sin. For some fucking dumb reason Atlus USA added a line about her being sloth in the localization on her calling card, but that was never there in Japanese.
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>>174093765
Ryuji. Yosuke's entire chracter is based around sucking Narukami's cock, and Junpei is a faggot that betrays you because he wants to get his dick wet.
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>>174093902
MAJI KA?
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>>174093761
>>174093832
Wait hold on what? Yeah obviously I failed because I didn't have all my social links up, I took down Sae in like 4 days.
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my favourite p4 arena story is yosuke story i dont know its my favourite
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>>174093659
Since 3 and 4 were the second to last games to use the PS2 models I don't think it was ever an issue for anything but Raidou.
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>>174093765
Yusuke

best boy, best evolved persona, best thief costume, best voice
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>>174093817
Those aren't reused assets.
>>174093812
>trusting megaten wiki
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>>174093173
>>174093190
>>174093225
>>174093324
What makes Ultimax's story bad?
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i wish i could find secret training spots and no-contract gyms with literally no people in the middle of the day like ryuuji
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Okay so I got to the final dungeon and I can easily say this is even more bullshit than the tower of babel in DDS.

Enemies with shitloads of resistances and 1 weakness at most.

Totally not salty about 1shotting myself with a mabufula
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>>174093928
it was boring desu
Kanji's was the best, even though he's too retarded to figure anything out and basically nothing is explained
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>>174093921
Do you just mean you fucked up in terms of not doing all S.links?

Technically you can reach true end without having a single rank 10 S. Link outside of the mandatory story ones that happen, I think.
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>>174093812
Megaten wiki is not a valid mythological source, they get things wrong more than Atlus.
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>>174094012
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>>174094041
Just use Yoshitsune
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>>174094041
You can switch the difficulty at any time kid.
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Is Shido the only Palace boss fight that doesn't have a "send a teammate away to do something to the boss" gimmick? Other than the mafia boss who I think you could only throw rare items at.
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>>174093921
What the fuck are you even talking about, how does Sae have anything to do with anything. There isn't any actual requirements for the True End if that's what you are worried about, literally just keep playing, it's straight up impossible not to get it unless you purposefully go after one of the bad ones.

You need to do a second playthrough to get 100% compendium and the secret boss, literally just do all social links on that playthrough if you are just talking about it from a completionist/trophy hunter point of view. I don't understand what your problem is.
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>>174094068
Oh seriously? I thought I'd just end up in a fail state and have to play the game over in NG+ to get to the true ending. Thanks anon
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>>174093650
Yes.
Solid 7.5-8/10 so far, but I'm still far from being done, just finished outer space palace. Although I was dumb enough to get spoiled on all the plot twists that happen afterwards so the that's not really fun.

I'll probably try to get hold of a ps3 so I can play through the previous two some day.
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Is it fucked up to find the dirty thoughts of Kamoshida effectively holding Ann mentally hostage with Shiho's status on the line arousing?

This absurdly tall muscular behemoth could have been furiously fucking her in the school itself and she couldn't do anything because of what's at stake.
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>>174094041
The only bullshit part is when the two guards spawn behind you after clearing a floor puzzle. Anything other than that is you being shit desu.
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>>174094227
Is your computer decent?
Emulate.
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>>174093921
You wut m8

Social links aren't needed for good ending.
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I beat Futaba's palace but i don't have any S.Link maxed (The highest is Ryuji's with Rank 7) Am i fucked up?
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I was facing one of the golden dudes in Kaneshiro's palace and Ann all of a sudden jumped in after my attack and crit hit, which allowed me to follow up with an all in attack and win.

What just happened? This is the first time I've seen this in 31 hours of play.
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>>174093789
futaba's is still wrath in the trophy which is what it was in the jp version too

>>174093812
the megaten wiki has a shitton of misinformation

in-game lavenza mentions in her explanation that yaldabaoth/the evil god was born from the wishes of the distorted masses, right after mentioning that reform isn't something that would occur to humans affected by sloth (怠惰, same word used for the deadly sin)

he's sloth. his dungeon is sloth. he just happens to be a fucking holy grail that turns into a god because the same slothful human it's born from wish for someone to rule and guide them so they don't have to think for themselves.
>>
Adachi's popularity means his type is going to be recycled in Persona games to come. Goro is proof of this.
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>>174094245
kamoshida apologist fag pls go, you'll never be tall or musuclar like he was
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>>174082043
trying to make a super izanagi in 5 because he's one of my favorite persona designs
does cross slash stay useful? it seems really good, but i wonder if the severe skills are better
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>>174093921
Dude, do you think you're in the bad ending because Joker died? If so, shut up and keep playing.
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>>174094184
The painter guy who you had to just fuck up.
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>>174094012

Villain is poorly developed and has almost no screen time.

Greater scope villain has no impact and dies in 2 seconds.

They clear the equivalent of Tartarus in a single night.

"Fake shadow selves" randomly out of nowhere and they just serve as mooks who only exist to die.

Elizabeth sits doing nothing after a whole set up in the previous game.

Red fog and Yasogami Tartarus/new dark hour never really explained to any meaningful extent.

There's more, but that's kind of a tldr.
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>>174094184
Okumura didn't either unless I'm missing something. Nor does Yaldaboath's true form.
>>
>enemy weak to Curse
>use Mudoon FOUR TIMES
>miss each time

??????
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>>174094184
Madarame didn't, and neither did Okumura, unless I beat both of them too quickly to see it.
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>>174094012

BONDS BONDS BONDS

MY DAD SUCKS SO I'M GONNA KILL EVERYONE FRIENDSHIP IS SUPER LAME
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>>174094340
The painter guy had one where you could throw black paint on the canvases to get rid of their resistances.
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>>174094297
lol no

>>174094308
Confidant bonus.
"Chance to join in the attack if Joker's attack failed to kill the enemy" or whatever.
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>>174094012
Everything.
Seriously. The big bad that appeared in Arena acts completely different than in Ultimax, as if they forgot what they wanted to do, the entire bullshit with Persona shards, pointless Shadows, Adachi appearing for no reason whatsoever and stealing the spotlight from a newly introduced character, the newly introduced character not having a story mode on hiw own and his entire story being infodumped on you instead, Liz suddenly not giving a shit about freeing MC and her own journey, Izanagi Sword, Marie being inserted into the story for no reason whatsoever though to be fair that seems to be normal for her, too much Adachi, entire SEES being brought back only to do nothing in the end
Everything.
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>>174094395
Sometimes I think that what Sho actually turned out to be is what shitposters want to convince people that Goro is
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>>174094384
Madarame let you throw black paint on him to deal 10x your normal damage after 3 loops
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>>174094384
Madarame does on his third respawn. You paint him black and he becomes weak to everything.
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>>174094012
It had 8 writers and it basically just pulls as many elements from P3/P4 as possible in one giant mess and never goes anywhere with it. Shadow selves everywhere, Tartarus is back AND the fog is out, Adachi is around, the OC is handled much worse than Labrys
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>>174094308
Were you not paying attention when you got the rank that gave her the "Follow up" ability?
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>>174094358
no longer means it's an instant hit or whatever

just invest in Eiha / Kouha skills for curse and bless I guess, that's what I did.
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>>174094312
What IS cavum, then? Is it just never assigned to anyone?
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>>174094340
>>174094384

Madarame had a gimmick where you can toss the black paint on him to weaken him in the Japanese version but I could never get it trigger in my English playthrough.
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>>174094568
Cavum is the emptiness you feel after you beat the game and realize it's over.
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>>174094517
>>174094437

I thought that only happened when I used a critical attack that doesn't kill the enemy.

Again, it's also the first time it's happened. Is the rate for it to occur really that absurdly low?
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>>174094474
>>174094480
>>174094574
Why would you even need three loops for Madarame, though, unless you were specifically underleveled?
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>>174094568
It's assigned to Goro.
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>>174092360
>SHIEEEEEEAT
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>>174094660
When?
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>>174094641
People play on difficulties higher than Normal, surprise, surprise.
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>>174094641
the bosses are the most fun underleveled tbqh
i fought kaneshiro underleveled and it was fun and difficult
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>go to get books with Makoto
>Hifumi shows up
>they both start talking
>romancing them both
>Mfw

I was panicking so hard don't tell me this kinda shit keeps happening
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>>174094452
>Wada is having the same people that wrote Ultimax take a shit on P5 as we speak
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>>174094640
Odds increase with SL.
Once you hit 10 with someone it'll happen all the fucking time.
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>>174094640
No, just an attack that doesn't kill the enemy as far as I'm aware.

And of course the rate is supremely low when you have three chances for it to proc and it allows you to win any encounter that's not a boss fight for free.
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>>174094641
Because in Merciless you are literally unable to not be underleveled, and on hard it's tough to deal enough damage to beat him in two loops without grinding.
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>>174094505
> Adachi is around

Hey fuck you that was the best part of Ultimax. You get an idea of what he's like post-P4.
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>>174094706
i thought it was amazing

also big bonuses for both of them at once. never got a scene as bad as in P3 when that delinquent waifu ran into someone else
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>>174094706
Enjoy your valentines day Anon. It'll be your last.
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>>174094568
never actually used in-game at the moment iirc

they probably made the op when they still planned to have nine story arcs instead of eight and didn't ask the studio to change that part after they finalized the story, the anime scenes aren't always consistent with the game
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>>174094706
Yeah, every time you get an invitation to go out with somebody somewhere it's a sort of 'intersection' between two confidants. For example, at one point you go fishing with Ryuji and Kawakami shows up.
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>that bitch in anns confidant

Where's a fucking TV when you need one?
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>>174094452

All this.

Though wasn't the point of Adachi that shadows are attracted to him (just like in 4) and Minazuki wanted to use that to Hijack Kagutsuchi for his own purposes?

Not that it's any good, but there is a "reason"
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>>174094731
More like salvage anything good out of P5 while Hackshino makes a shitty generic fantasy game
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>>174094245
t. Suguru Kamoshida
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>>174094825
Again, everything works out because Sojiro covers for you
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>determined to romance Haru this playthrough
>all alone in Hawaii
>end up spending the last day with Hifumi

Daww, she's cute too. Everyone is so cute in this game.
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>>174094817
>delinquent
that was p4. and she was more just truant
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More so than any other general, /pg/ has a dead even split of NEETs and normies.

That means it's very difficult to tell what camp someone is from!

However, here are some shibboleths of each side

NEETs:
>pick sakura (only NEETs would find NEETs attractive, especially a fugly one like her)
>pick kawakami (NEETs obsess over their compulsory education, the last time they had any social interaction)

normies:
>don't follow dating sim paths (norms find it cringy)
>or they pick the bimbo whore(s)

Feel free to reply and add your own!
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>>174094706
>Romancing them both
You are already dead. Hope you live through Valentines day you cheating jackanape.
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>>174094731
Eh, P4D was fine, so was Arena and PQ had few good moments.
It's just Ultimax that shat the bed real hard. I hope that the Adachifag that inserted his fanfiction into the game was fired though.
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>>174094706

I also had a "oh shit" moment when that happened, but they got along pretty well and I was surprised.

>>174093086

Persona Dancing All Night is a way more fun and better spin off than the Arena games.
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>>174094902

I have this sinking feeling that somehow this fantasy game is is going to star a teenager going to some sort of wizarding school/adventuring academy or some shit, and is literally going to be medieval persona.
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So I am at Shidos palace right now and reached his treasure. If I use the calling card now will I lose the time after it or should I wait until the last day?
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>>174094831
Where i go to fish with Ryuji??? its a random event?
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>>174094964
It's true. There's so many good grils, there's someone for everyone
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>Just finished Shido's wild ride

Dude, did this nigga really have to pull a fucking Armstrong on me?

AND WHY THE FUCK DID RYUJI GET BEAT UP? JOKER WALK BACK AND HELP YOUR BRO, DON'T JUST FUCKING LEAVE HIM THERE GODDAMNIT.
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>>174094782

>Wearing a suit in prison
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>>174095080
It's like always. You'll have the rest of the time to do shit.
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>>174094884
that sounds more like an excuse and afterthought. It never really ended up being relevant, did it?
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>>174093892
>Yes, she apologizes profusely for getting the gang into the shitty situation, and that assumedly that also covers the blackmail idea that got them into trouble in the first place. Yes it's over text but does that really make a difference? To me it does not.
It just seem half assed to me, that's all. After all the gang did end up in that position due to her stupidity.

>The Kaneshiro palace introduction is basically the same as literally every other palace introduction, so if you don't like this one I can't see how'd you like this one, as well as pick Makoto's as being particularly weak.
Well at least I could answer and give my input to something. Right now Joker is supposed to be a leader yet for 3 whole days of that investigation and Makoto joining Joker didn't say a single thing and then over the chat you only get options "wow you are so awesome and smart". That pissed me off the most, that I couldn't do shit but listen.

>She joins to help take down Kaneshiro and the group is more than willing to accept her because of her supposed intelligence.
This is also pissing me off. She had one line that was semi-smart and suddenly everyone thinks she is a genius and yet the whole situation is due to her stupidity. She seems like the biggest moron. Like she is book smart but is unable to use it and yet everyone thinks she is a god and I cant say anything.

>Not super sure why you can't start her slink, I assume you do have to finish her palace and yes, it requires knowledge 3 to start and max charm to finish.
Yeah I know I need to finish it to start it but I was curious about that line since it shouldnt be there as my Joker has 3 knowledge already. probably a bug.

>I don't see her as bitchy at all, rather just a tad strict as she fulfills the "team mom" role, and she certainly isn't full of herself as she has a driving force to prove herself not useless.
She seems bitchy with that one line to joker about hanging out with him having no "benefits" for her.
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>>174095076
He specifically said he wanted to do a fantasy game because he found Persona's setting was becoming too restrictive for his ideas. If it turns out like that then nobody can deny he is a fraud
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>>174095082
He'll hit you up at midnight during summer to go fish with him the next day. It unlocks the fishing location, so you can't go before that (unless there's a magazine for it that I'm not rememberin that unlocks it beforehand.)
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>>174095030

Funny thing is that the Adachi fags fanfic is better than everything else in the story.

Not even shitposting.
>>
Does anyone find it a bit messed up after everything you do for Chihaya's fucked up life, she still charges you 5000 yen every fortune?
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>>174095115
Who did you waifu?
Christmas is going to make you want to cry yourself to sleep
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>>174095115
>wanting to mess with the psychopath, the biker chick, the cat and the girl with a grenade launcher
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>>174095192
He only came to read and play, fuck
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>>174095182
Glad to see that they are still going strong with those giraffe necks
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>>174095224
Money can buy everything
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>>174095239
Futaba. I heard it's awful. There better be a damn good fucking reason for it.
>>
>>174095224
She has to eat, you know?
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Yes the Persona 5 opening is good but is it a match for the Persona 4 opening?
https://youtu.be/h73LvR8V2LA
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>>174095202
>something a single guy writes all on his own in his spare time is better than a story bounced between 7 different people that don't really give a shit
you don't say
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>abusing superpowers to win at baseball and get big prizes at fishing
this is the kind of casual abuse of power i've been wanting from this series
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>>174095380
P4 is better outside of the gameplay
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>>174095380
P4's opening made me laugh the first time I saw it and it still makes me laugh now

>>174095428
bait opinion
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>>174095380
no
>>
will the dvd rental place ever actually charge me late fees
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>>174095224
That's nothing

Better that than 100k yen
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>>174095339
>Futaba

Easily the most heartbreaking. Made me tear up like a bitch.
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>>174095414
do we even abuse the superpowers for baseball
i thought we were just really really good at it
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>>174095380

No, persona 4 has the best opening.

Then they made Golden's which is a pile of shit.
>>
>>174095609
you can use mind's eye after you read a book
>>
>>174095535
yes
>>
>>174095609
you can pop batman vision to slow down time
>>
>>174095609
After you read the baseball book you unlock using Thief's Eye for it to slow down time.
>>174095535
You only get two free rides, anon.
>>
7-11 girl is best girl
>>
Is Goro's actual mask being a full helmet supposed to be symbolic of how much he hides or is it just to be edgy
>>
>>174095535
Oh shit we forgot, thanks for reminding us :)
>>
>>174095647
>>174095658
oh shit
i thought it was just christopher robin levels of fuck you
>>
Wait, lower difficulty has more exp?
>>
>>174095698
it was probably just a valiant attempt at making his stupid tengu mask evolve into something cool and i like that theory
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>>174095698

He wants to look like Femto
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A TRASH GIRL IN A TRASH GAME
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>>174095760
I don't.
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>>174095778
the helmet came first though
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>>174095698
his actual mask is just the visor part, the helmet is just part of his costume
>>
>>174095642
>Then they made Golden's which is a pile of shit.
I can agree with this part.
It was retarded how it focuses on the things that added to P4G instead of actually making it interesting. The only good part of it are the few last seconds but they also spoil the fucking ending of the final battle.
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>>174095760
because it was the most popular game for years and got milked for spinoffs and /pg/ is defined by contrarianism.
some people take it a little too seriously like the other week when people were describing getting upset and mad at the P4 cast for "being so desperate to be relevant" as if they were real people
>>
>>174095760
i also dont i really like persona 4 i still conflicted about what is my favourite persona 5 or 4
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>>174090973
Takemi.
Hifumi.
Sae.
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>>174095760
Everybody kind of had some animosity towards because of multiple quirks and now that the new game is here they can start full on hating it
It's a bit like the zelda treadmill
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>>174095682
Real talk, super bummed she's not a slink
>>
>>174095876
It's not really a spoiler. Even then there's no context. Protag takes off his glasses and he's standing on some red floor tiles... not really a spoiler.
>>
>>174095925
>le zelda treadmill again
but everyone is jerking off BoTW and Skyward Sword is still trash
>>
>can't afford any healing items because I spent all my money trying to fuck my teacher

is this what japanese high school is really like
>>
>>174096108
man i wish
>>
i want to buy vita with p4g but i know that there not many vitas left
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>>174096035
Isn't it the current game being great, the last being shit and the one before it being the gold standard?
>>
When I talk to some social-links and think about hanging out, it will sometimes say that my bond won't grow stronger soon, but with other people, that it will grow stronger soon.

Should I just wait until it says that the bond will grow stronger, or should I just hang out with people anyway? Usually when I do, the scene doesn't last as long, and I only get like two notes, and no upgrade to my card.
>>
>>174096246
>>174096246
>>174096246

new bread
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>>174095760
I find P5 vastly superior in basically every aspect than previous games and base elements of P4 don't really appeal to me but P4 is still my favorite.
I think I'm broken.
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>>174096250
When your bond isn't going to grow stronger it means you don't have enough points to level up your link. You need to get points in some other way in order to level them up, so yeah, hang out with them anyways.
>>
>>174096212
What kind of third world country do you live in?
>>
>>174096220
usually it's the current game is trash, the second most recent game is fantastic, and then OoT is the pinaccle

But that meme was proven untrue with Skyward Sword and BoTW, giving credence to the theory that, surprise surprise, people like different things.
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>>174096323
Russia
>>
>>174095925

I think it's mostly the fact that only the people who started with P2 or P3 stick around, while the masses who love 4 or soon 5, the popular games move on like normal people.

So you're pretty much just stuck with a lot of hardcore fans/elitists with massive first experience bias who control the narrative.
>>
Where the hell did Ryuji go? He used to be waiting outside of class 2D every day. I haven't seen him in days and I swear to God I've looked everywhere across the city.
>>
where to get the 50 damage aoe items? crafting only gives single target
>>
Don't say anything, just post yfw 12/24.
>>
>>174096398
Arcade in Shibuya is his regular hang out spot. He just texts you to hang out after class so often you can go the whole game without talking to him there and still max his link.
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>>174096398
Arcade in Shibuya
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>>174096468
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>>174096468
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>>174096468
so many stuff happens that day though, which part should I react to?
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>>174096468
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>>174095698
Was the bird mask not supposed to make him look like Alex from a clockwork orange?
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>>174097553
Oh thank god I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
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>>174088147
Wait for Crimson
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>>174096468
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>>174088471
>Ryuji
>over endgame Junpei
>over Kanji
>>
What the fuck is this Crimson thing people keep going on about?
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>>174091043
Because he knows what's good
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