/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

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what did paradox mean by this?

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La Plata

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Sunrise invasion?

>>174074948
Make a move. You get a huge bonus to fertility if your spouse is your lover, regularly get 6+ kids.

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Reminder to report and ignore all plots against your liege.

>>174074751
ABSOLUTELY W&B

>>174075370
Does asshole mean that you are an asshole or that you used her asshole?

>>174075370

great mod

>>174075370
what mod?

>>174075484
>>174075485
>>174075539
unHPM

>>174075370
>jain rapist

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Nice

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Having a pretty comfy Britain in exile here, but if I want to match the Americans, I'll probably need to allow immigration. Should I, or are we full?

Is the HPP mod for HoI3 any good?

>>174076136
Don't be a cuck lad....

>>174076136

can't you make your people breed more?

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Meant to do this last night but something came up.

>The 3rd of January, 1946
>New York, New York, USA
The Chinese Civil War has been raging since 1927. The Second United Front against the Japanese suspended the conflict in 1937 but with the unconditional surrender of the Japanese the war has resumed in quick order. The Soviet Union, eager to expand it's sphere of influence, has heavily supported Mao Zedong through massive shipments of ammunition, oil, and other equipment. The Manchurian Offensive left the Soviets in complete control of Manchuria and they have refused to allow the Kuomintang to occupy the area and instead have allowed Communist militias to move into the region. Political strife and faltering morale is turning the tide of the conflict in favour of the Communists. The United Nations Security Council has been called to discuss what should be done in regards to the conflict. We can likely expect a complete veto by Moscow.

>Support intervention and material support
>Vote for material support only
>Veto it

With Yuan being added in 1.21 of EU4 do think they'll ever add a reformable Ilkhanate?

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How am I supposed to take a province from this madman?

>>174076136
More details lad. What mod is that?

>>174076715
>something came up
what

Anyway, support intervention, gotta keep HK safe from gommies.

What´s a good ally for the Ottomans in the mediterranean? I´d like to get Italy and North Africa after getting all the hystorical stuff. i´d like to not ally Tunesia, unless I can diplo vassalize them down the line, Any suggestions?

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>>174076504
But muh industry. I guess I'd get to stay white though. Most immigrants I'd get would be from fucking Turkey which is the only place America is getting immigrants from. I'd also probably get filled with Indians and Chinese once they civilize.

>>174076610
I'd just need to pass healthcare, which is probably a better idea. Also I'll be conquering Indonesia.

>>174077096
My own. I just edited game start to start with UK exiled in Australia.

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>>174077074
Maybe this is how

>>174077621
Why? Who owns Britain?

>>174077621
>new guinea

what? you can't colonize that untile late 1800s

I haven't been paying much attention to EU4 for quite a while, what DLC is mandatory these days? Whats the consensus on Mandate of Heaven?

>>174077621

does cutting taxes make people have more babies too?

>>174077805
AncCap England, AnCap Scotland and GP Ireland. And I was bored with the usual playthroughs, decided to go for a government in exile run.

>>174077843
I don't own it.

>>174077908

wait for M&T2

>>174075370
WHAt mod >>174076767
>Christian nomads in the middle of Sunni steppe
Would be sick

>Constitutional Union Party ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Union_Party_(United_States) ) in power
>slavery has been phased out

What the fuck is going on here? Some new HPM event chain?

>>174077908
MoH is worth it, as really helps Japan be fun>>174077914
No funding abortions ironically does that

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>They killed my army but I have still united the Basques
Glorious

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>>174078378
Forgot pic

>unhpm links dead
I really hate this whole fucking community, you pretty much have to beg around to get anything

>>174078426

>killing babies makes more babies
>"Victoria II is probably the most complex of the Paradox Grand Strategy games..."

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>>174078814
we like to be begged, it's the only time we can exercise any mote of power over another person

>>174078507
>not claiming Bordeaux,Pirineo,Armagnac and the province below that for the basques
Plebe

>>174079052
>Not accepting the true definition of a basque nation as one that encompasses the whole of the Basque people, regardless of where those people may live
I've got it right here, bud

>>174079039
then I beg you, may I have a link to it

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Well, fighting a two front war against both India and Japan was hard, at one point 3/4ths of my country was occupied. But now the People's liberation army are finally retaking Korea and once Japan is out of the war India will give us back our rightful land.

>First time player
>Castile is recommended for new players
>Don't understand colonization, Portugal beat me to every where
>Aragon allied Ottomans and France is getting their shit kicked in by Some HRE or something
>Beat up Morocco and Portugal and bully trade

I feel like I understand a lot of the mechanics, should I keep going being a bully, or should I start over and play well instead?

>>174079578

play as France

extremely comfy and you can do light colonization too

>>174079578
Did not get the Iberian wedding?

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>>174079523

>>174079578
As castile you will get the iberian wedding, giving you a PU over aragon+naples (unless you're unlucky). Conquer portugal, or better yet vassalize portugal when he is small enough, then you will diplo-annex portugal and his colonies.

If you want to do all of this without looking over your shoulder, just ally france if you can.

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>tfw playing DH with unit sprites

are there any good modern mods for vic 2?

hello my laddies.

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>Rest of the japan has Military tech level 5
>Meanwhile Im fucking everyone in the ass with artilery already
>It´s not even 1480
Haha holy shit

I'm a repentant savescummer thinking about what my first ironman game should be. What are some fun achievements?

have any of you seen AI form Qing in eu 4 yet?

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>>174079940
>>174079523
Just need Sinkiang and it'll be complete.

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>>174080432

EUIV to specify.

>>174080432
Chrysanthemum throne -> Kirishitan Japan -> Made in Japan

Are there any ways you really enjoy playing a certain game, and do it frequently? I like making an Irish merchant republic and unifying the celts and making a celtic empire, and I've done this a few times.

>>174080432
easy, byzantium mare nostrum, roman empire.

>>174080991

cucking whitey as an african sex machine

>>174079816
No Iberian Wedding sadly. It's a monarch sausage party all up in here.

>>174079973
I finally understand vassalizing now so I'll do that. I allied France but they keep getting their shit kicked in. Also the Ottomans are curbstomping Europe all over the place.

>>174080991
Oman merchant republic into Arabian merchant republic that dominates Indian ocean trade

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>The 28th of September, 1946
Colonialism is dying. France has bowed to international pressure and released control of their South East Asian holdings. Now we are being pressured from voices within the Empire to begin the transition to homerule in our colonies. Various movements in Malay have unified to request complete control over their domestic affairs. This is the watershed moment for the Empire. If we grant them homerule it would set a policy of federalization in regards to our colonies and may lead to complete loss of control over these regions. On the other hand keeping the Empire centralized may fan the flames of Communist agitation.

>Give them Freedom
>Cling onto these lands

>>174080432
you could use momentum of this patch and form andalusia since iberian countries are retarded and weak right now for some reason

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>>174080573
This isn't Jaunpur anymore, go home.

>>174080573

>13k manpower

how did you lose so much people?

>>174080991
8/10 of my Victoria games is just repeatedly playing Germany, in EU3 I mostly play OPMs and in CK2 I prefer playing really tall, centralized empires.

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Second idea group?

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alright seriously, what's the fucking rape mod for ck2?
I need it for research

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Is waiting for chinese and koreans to invade your comfy island the only way to beat ming?

/hoi4/ general when

fuck you with you're hate

>>174082701

defensive senpai

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>>174082251
Two front war with Japs and Indians in the Tibetan mountains will do that to you.

Pic related, you can see the history here, I had to abandon the Ming occupation because it started to cost too much, what with war exhaustion and all, but Ming NEVER recovered from the devastation they received and are now a landlocked rogue nation who keeps diplomatically insulting me because they can't get over the fact they got memed on.

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>>174083057
>When I alt tab away to see this message Castille declares on me
I think it's a sign that you are right

How about this guys?
>Build massive naval force
>Beat Ming in naval combat
>Land in the most south western part of china
>Quickly cap and scorch earth everything you can
>Ming starts losing mandate because of devastation

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Haven't played for awhile, what event chain is this?

>>174083751
The martial immortal chain IIRC, it's pretty shit because even if successful it only ends with reincarnation I think.

>>174083824
Thanks! So the skills won't stay, pity.

>>174083046
just post here you retard.

>>174083046
>you're

>>174081284
Look at how losing the empire fucked us over irl lad, KEEP everything

>>174083046
>you're
>fuck you with you are hate
Yes, I am hate incarnate!

How do I play Mongola in HPM?

>>174084574
>anon cant get a ethnically mongolian angola
go back to EU4, babby.

>>174084701
What do you mean by that? I don't play EU4.

Only the "Sunset Invasion" dlc is bad, right?

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>>174082997
s...soon

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>>174083314
Guess I'd better go make some tributaries now.

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In EU4 is there even a reason to deal with Navel shit? Seems boring as hell and really uninteresting since Land wars seem to decide everything.

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>>174084886
300k dead chinese and around 100k dead koreans later

>>174084885
And Conclave

>>174085274
if you are an island, nobody can land on you if they can't boat over

>>174075370
>raped me
>but it was a good fuck

Help me pick boys.

I'm thinking of doing a Moroccan game where I take Granda and enter Iberia.

A Florence game where I form Italy

A Naples game where I form Italy

A Breton game where I become Britain (Maybe, prob just attack whatever I can)

Or if you lot have anything fun please let me know and I'll try that and keep you lot updated

What is a god-tier army composition in vicky?

>>174085559
I'm personally gonna make a WE WUZ campaign focused on invading Europe and beheading white people

I will listen exclusively to Damn. and The Stone Masons song while I do it too.

>>174085559
Don't do the first one because I literally just thought of it before refreshing the page and seeing your post.

>>174085648
4 inf/ 4art/ 1hus/ 1eng

>>174085816
What should I do with guards?

>>174074971
nice, thanks.

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>>174037523

ids habbening

>>174085879
kill

>>174080573
>blobbing into the unpopulated Siberian wasteland

please go back to plebbit

>>174085783
Not a problem my man, keep me updated though, I want to see if someone can do it nice and easily.

>>174085735
Haven't through of playing a game while only listening to certain music, could be fun

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literally don't know how to build ships yet

>>174085648
10 guards 25 inf 5 hus 6 art
Or 30 inf 5 tank 2 guard 4 art
Or 30 inf 5 hus 5 art
Or 25 hus
Or 100 inf 10 art
Or 10 tanks 5 guards 6 art

What would be necessary to make HOI4 actually good?
My guess:
>Bring back the OOB
>Actual logistics, with fuel and shit
>Improve the AI
>Scrap Airzones
>Being able to stockpile resources
>An actual report system

>>174085559
So anyone got a suggestion?

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>>174085238
how quickry the sirry yarkandians furget vey ver vonce sheppe norads like-a dem

>>174086382
forgot
>remove national focus
>add an intelligence system
>add a way more complex ideology system
>remove political/air/navy/army mana

>>174086640
Also the ability to refit capital ships to the next variant.

>>174086640
>remove national focus
The national focus isn't an actually bad, just poorly executed for most part.

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>>174086636
why the FUCK is this allowed

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How to get Castile to stop attacking me every time the truce is up?
France, Savoy, and I keep barely beating them in a way that I'm not confident we can keep up

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how do you say 'eat shit' in latin?

>>174087082

lmao owned

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Anyone who says HoI4 is hard or that it has intelligent ai is wrong.

>ming declares war on russia to force them into being tributary state
hm

>>174087273

beat them soundly. gl

also how the fuck is a france that healthy not walking all over castille?

>>174087438
Because of an even healthier example of AI incompetence
Also, it's not only Castile of course, it's Castile, Aragon, Naples, and Portugal

>>174087415

the problem there isn't that ming is much stronger than russia, but that it's too easy to march armies through 5 000 km of wilderness

>>174087282
sic semper tyrannis

>>174087282
Vae Victis

>>174074739
What's the best Govt form in vicky 2?

>>174087282
eatus shitus

>>174087282
carthago delenda est

>>174087726
Prussian Constitutionalism

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>>174087691

nice

>>174087726
Proletarian Dictatorship

>>174087726
Also the best party

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>>174087726
I actually find Communism pretty good for some reason. It tripped my income and population. Order now and for just three orders of 19.17 you can get two orders of communism, ABSOLUTELY FREE of class!

>>174087979
What country should I use if I wanted to try communism? I hate it so I don't want to subject any white country to the horrors of communism.

HPM crashes when I click single player
Is this Johan telling me I need to start playing mp
Also how do i fix this

>>174088258
highly literate with few states so you don't have to fuck around building too many factories

>>174088258
Russia. I did it with japan because I got so fed up with revolutions every time I tried to fight someone. Its very good, especially since you can bring slavery back. By 1900 I had all my taxes set to 0.

>>174088354
So Korea? They are good at maths and pretty based for commies.

>>174088413
\dlsbery is useless though

>>174088258
any islamic country should work

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>>174087303
>tributaries let your enemies walk through their land to rape you
loving every laugh johan

>>174088258
France, just own Algeria and Quebec since those are integral french lands

>>174088691
>Being bad at china
Hmmm

>>174088739
What about le left bank?

>>174088258
>being so autistic that you wont have fun in a videogame because your "morals"

>>174088739
How can France take Quebec and the Left Bank back?

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i should just wait for the printing press, shouldn't i? it's already fully present in paris

fuck i want to reform already

>>174088691
>Ming still exists
>cores on shitty mountains rather than rich coastal provinces
What are you doing?

>>174088888

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New world exile seems imminent.
What is the Navarra of the Americas?

>>174088838
Obviously fuck the krauts
>>174088889
Easily. The AI is retarded with it's navy, siege london by having a fuckton of steam transports and heavies in the channel, now you've got Quebec and you gotta take Newfoundland.
Le Left Bank can be taken early with a Austria alliance day one war to release rhineland and rape Prussia till they collapse. Be careful, because they have a huge mobilization potential as the war goes on

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So /tg/, I´ve been this Ottomans fot the first 20 years and just got my first idea group. What should I take? Influence, Diplomacy? Or should I take Offensive immedialy, even if I need the mil points?

Up to what tech level should I generally wait with taking military ideas anyway?

>>174089245
So should you justify your war with Prussia on day one and attack as soon as possible, or should you wait a couple of years to build up in Algeria and reorganize your troops into proper stacks and wait for the descision?

>>174089387

you're the ottomans. do absolutely whatever you want. take espionage first. it don't matter.

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>check europe
>see this
do ottomans get some special events for these OP rulers? WTF is this?

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I got out with only giving up the province I took from them.

>>174089747

yes actually

>>174089405
Justify and start moving and building troops day one
>>174088310
also someone help me
I have to germanize the east

>>174087282
va fangool

>>174089747
I'm pretty sure Ottomemes get an option to choose their heir from three candidates everytime so they are almost guaranteed to always have a good ruler.

>>174089387
>/tg/

>>174090154
if they historically had such good rulers then why they didn't conquer vienna and collapsed

>>174090260
Your failure here is the assumption that EU4 cares about approriately representing history.

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Hey Qing lad, are you here? How am I supposed to take my neighbours when they ally each other?

>>174089952
Army professionalism as the first tech?

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oh shit, the pope is angry

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>>174090469
Ally Korchin on day one. Declare war on Korea on December 14 or whatever the soonest possible date is and annex North korea. By this time Yeren and Haixi will be at war, so swoop in and annex Haixi and then Yeren.

Don't waste paper mana on provinces that forming Manchu gives you cores for.

>>174089067
Belize

>>174089480
Okay, thanks.

>>174090253
Shit, sorry crossposting syndrome. I need my coffee.

>>174090753
Korea first, you say

>>174090560
medicine

>>174080991

Easily 50% of my CKII games are starting as a Welsh count/duke. It's a small start with a really easy to form kingdom title, England USUALLY leaves you alone for long enough to get your shit together and turning the tables on them is great.

>>174090923
Yeah raise banners on day one and then sit back and let them reinforce. Korea will siege either your capital or the fort. Let them spend a couple of monmths pissing away manpower and then crush them with your OP banner units. The numbers should be roughly the same but banner + horde bonuses and the decent general your normally start with will be enough to win.

The goal is to get to 300 development as fast as possible and then to war Ming as soon as you can before they start building mandate. Then you just keep that war atleast 20% in your favour until the unguarded frontier disaster fires for them.

Don't be afraid of debts either, as the take mandate CB against Ming gives you 50% province cost so you can take some land and still easily squeeze a lot of money out of them too.

>>174090753

At what date is it optimal to form Qing? When does horde become worse?

>>174091192
I just find it so freakin' hard to get the right conditions so that I can take all that land fast. Fucking hell. I'll restart now and go for Korea first.

>>174088739
Why doesn't France start with a core on Quebec?

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Roll 5 for Brazil and 8 for Colombia

>>174091361
Forming Qing will remove the ungarded frontier from Ming, so it's best to wait until they are stuck at 0 mandate with negative growth due to devastation and not-tributaries along. I remained as Manchu for two wars so that I could go over 100% overextension and then easily swat down the hundreds of thousands of rebels that spawned and then formed Qing so that I could boost Beijing and get an institution there in 1550.

Just remember to not take the mandate until Ming is irrelevant and you have a decent number of tributaries because there are no penalties for losing the mandate and you keep tributaries so if you take it early you will get fucked from low mandate while Ming will prosper.

>>174091715
GRAN COLOMBIA SHALL RISE

>>174091715
HUE

>>174091715
You decide

>>174075370

>raped me
>good fuck
>good head

EVERY TIME.

>>174088258
>being this /pol/ brainwashed

>>174091715
S O U T H B R A Z I L

Cavalry, Dragoons, Cuirassiers, or Hussars?

I've never played in Japan who is best to form it?

>>174092508
Dragons ofc

>>174091716
You get no penalties from no tributaries if your capital is on an island/is an island.
If you are playing someone that can't beat China traditionally (Anyone that isn't a Manchu with Banners), might be best to just steal it when you can.

>>174092585
Uesugi

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>>174092585
If you play as the Shogun you can meme on people while you unite Japan a little more slowly.

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am bored, basically waiting for 50 more culture points to get legalism so I can vote primogeniture.
Byzantium isn't getting any weaker so no Sicily kingdom for me any time soon
almost every dynasty member hates me, my heir is my retarded brother with shit stats, son is -100 and plotting to kill my brother so he can inherit everything.
wat do

what does /gsg/ listen to while playing moslems?

>>174092735
What was the end result of your eons long blockade?

is there any alternate way to get those institutions? i've seen that korea got some renaissance spread out of nowhere
im asking about colonization specifically though, it originated in europe but i wonder if getting exploration idea do something?

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>>174088940

update: literally one day after that picture france declared on me, so i had to reform and spend all my mana on tech

but now i'm at parity and i found a new friend

>>174091192
Should I have banners raised the whole time?

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>>174092805
hmmm

What do you hope to see in the next Vicky?

I'd like to see more slave-related shit. It was such a massive issue that it shouldn't be trivialised into a button click, and it should actually have some advantages.

Being able to buy or sell slave pops would be bretty good desu

>>174092816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uc_T5K2MgU

>>174092845
This is my 3rd of 4th attempt. I really think it can work, it just relies on their surrounding tributaries not doing super well so they lose mandate and start getting bullied by their neighbors/rebels.
I went to sleep for a while so I didn't respond to a bunch of people.
My first attempt I was able to wipe their navy by dropping 1k men on their coast and taking the province their beaten navy was docked in twice.
Haven't been able to do it since.
>>174092918
You can spawn colonization, but I think you need New World presence, not just the Pacific.

>>174088310
>Is this Johan telling me I need to start playing mp
Yes, but I don't know how you fix that

>>174089387
Might as well take quality/quantity and declare war on entire europe. Doesn´t matter really

>>174092918
Renaissance grows in any European province of 20 development and any non-European of 30 I think. As for colonisation you need a colony in the New World to grow it in one of your coastal provinces. The alternative is to dump shitloads of mana into a province and brute force it, but that wil cost hundreds from each category.

Open the institution panel in the province view and hover over the growth rate of each one and the tooltip will tell you what you need to grow it.

>>174090150
va fa napoli

>>174093365
He is talking about where an institution appears.

>>174093431
I had assumed it had already spawned in his game when he said it originated in Europe.

>>174093496
Based on the wording it looks like he was asking if it was possible if "colonization do something" which it in fact does in relation to where the colonization appears.

how do I find provinces in DH?

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>when your ally stands on top of your army so you take attrition

>>174092816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyRhn0qqQsY

Who should I play in CWE?

>>174092816
indie rock

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Alright, despite having Italian cores and them being right above me in industry, I've decided to help Italy conquer the papacy

>>174093365
thanks, that helps a lot
never noticed this tooltip

Do other people still have issues with not owning all culture provinces as japan?

I thought I did as well when I initially got all the land but I checked again after eating some Korea and I noticed I had it.

Did Jeju used to be part of the Japan region and maybe it counts for some reason? For some reason I remember it being that way.

>>174094040
>netherlands
Fuck I love when this happens

Why is mobilising so tedious in Vic 2?

Like literally why can't we say that we only want to mobilise pops in a certain region, and that we want them to form 30k stacks? As it is you either set one rally point and have massive attrition because there's now a 300k stack in one province, or set loads of little rally points and end up with massively unbalanced armies that you have to sort out later

>>174094040
Italy is a fucking rainbow

>>174094368
Because Vicky is shit

treddit etc.

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Paradox pls

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Who should I support? It doesn't say how many rebels it will spawn anymore. Wun would be hte most expensive, but I don't know if that would actually spawn the most rebels.
They lost Shenyang to Jianzhou somehow and don't have the mandate, though they still raped the Oirats.

>>174094659
gold also represents silver
just hover over the gold icon in a province

>>174094732
I get it but it still sounds silly

>>174094879
I agree, I wish they would just seperate gold and silver. No need for it to be one and the same.

>>174094689
From what I found romping around as Manchu Wu spawns about 30-40k rebels

Unless there's a player's land for them to tunnel vision they'll make short work of them

>>174094368
>end up with massively unbalanced armies that you have to sort out later
Wow, it's almost like that's exactly what'd happen if you told all the peasants in some shit 19th century country to show up for military duty.

It's not like they have cars and access to high speed communications. They'd just get a letter at home or maybe a knock on the door with instructions to show up in the capital province of the state by a certain date.

>>174095191
They only have 57k and no mandate.
Worth a shot, otherwise I just sit around and let them recoup.

>>174095001
>No need for it to be one and the same.
Gold and silver are fungible commodities, and their values are closely linked (that is, if the price of gold goes up by 5%, the price of silver also goes up by 5%), so their values don't change relative to each other. So as trade goods, there really isn't any reason to represent them separately from each other.

>>174095290
Which is what's represented when they spent ages forming their 3k stacks

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It's going down lads

>>174095483
make sure they have lowish stability or the rebels will take a long ass time to actually spawn

>>174095661
>not PUing Aragon at the start of the game

are you even bringing anything to the table here or are you just gonna let them slug it out?

>>174095629
Right, and then the units would have to march around the map (same as any other) to organize into properly balanced armies. It wouldn't make any sense for your mobilizations to instantly and automatically appear in exactly the right places with exactly the right army composition.
The peasant units just show up in the capital of whatever state they happen to live in, and then you have to move them around the map like any other army to join them up with your artillery attachments. That sounds like it's exactly the way it should be.

>>174095815
The Spanish troops are all trapped in Italy now as they started a war there right before I declared. The ottomans are moving in from the east, the French are holding the west. I am sieging the entire iberian peninsula with Savoy's help right now

>>174095915
Then why not just add a feature so they mobilize as they do now, but where they rally into uniform stacks?

>>174095928
I've never non-cheesed Navarra before, did you just develop like hell for 100 years or what?

>>174096040
Honestly I haven't developed much at all, a little when I was way ahead on tech. Mainly France has protected me from Spain the whole time, and I took a province from England during the 100 Year war

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>>174094219
looks ugly as fuck without nord-pas du calais though

>>174096185
So what did you even do? Just sit around and colonize then?

I would usually privateer England to provoke a dow so I could take Pale and pick on the Irish for development

>>174096004
>rally into uniform stacks?
How would they do this? One state might be able to make 10 stacks, while another only mobilizes three.

The best way to do it is to put one rally point in your homeland, and then move the growing stack off the point and into a neighboring province every time it reaches the size you want. But really you should just get used to mobilizing months before you really need to, so that your armies are ready for war when you need them to be.

>>174096216
How did the Netherlands annex Luxembourg?

Also why isn't there a descision to annex Luxembourg if Belgium is conquered anyway?

>>174096327
I'm trying to do just a comfy non-expansion colonizing type deal, but Spain is making me uncomfy

>>174096216
Too bottom-heavy desu plus muh perfect French hexagon autism

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>>174091715
>no one rolled neither 5 nor 8
I suspect steamcordplazadb is behind this

>>174095545
>if the price of gold goes up by 5%, the price of silver also goes up by 5%
Eh?

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Navarran victory part 1

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remove francien

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>>174092267
Colombia for you

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Uhhh guys...

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>>174096754

wait what

>>174091192
What about allies?

Am I supposed to tackle Ming alone? If I ally someone, like oirat I get called to arms everytime. Ming always go to war against my potential allies long before I'm ready to DOW on ming. So I can't get that ally back when I'm actually ready if I decline the call of arms.

how the fuck do i get this shitty cb to get mandate of heaven... do i have to border ming or what

>>174095545
Well why not just say "Precious Metals" then?

>>174096471
i dunno anon i'm kind of sexually attracted to fucking the french out of land

my ships in DH are capping at 49 organisation

is there any way to improve it?

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>>174096994
You don't need allies no. Manchu is almost specifically made to rape Ming. Just play smart and defeat their armies a few times before starting to siege their forts. Bonus points if you can catch them with their pants down while they are attacking the other steppe nomads.

I made the same mistake of allying Oirat who dragged me into a defensive war. It set me back a few years as I only got one core out of it.

>>174096216
That map is stretched lengthwise

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that's it ottoniggers i had enough of your shiet

>>174096956
>baguete baguete? ~le~le~le~le~le~le~le~le~le

>>174097461
Why do these faggots seem to take exploration and start colonising the Pacific in a really half-assed fashion every game now?

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>>174096675
If the price of gold increases, it just means that the value of fiat money has gone down. The value of gold over time is roughly constant, which is why many people who distrust other investments favor gold, and why there are still advocates for returning to a gold standard for currency. One ounce of silver is worth much less than one ounce of gold (about $20 and $1300 respectively), but the economic changes that would change the price of gold would also change the price of silver in the same way. Here's a chart showing the relative prices of gold and silver over the last 100 years (blue line is gold, orange line is silver). As you can see, they trend together (their values were also more or less constant in time up until the 1970s, by which time the gold standard had ended around the world, because if money is valued according to how much gold or silver it can buy, gold and silver will always be worth the same amount of money).

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This combined with cutting off their Austrian treaties should be enough to comfortably hold them off with France on my side from now on
(Also it restores my rightful borders)

>>174097601
because it's the duty of the white turkish men to civilize the asian savages

>>174097367
Ok, so my plan should be to ignore oirat and the other guys, and just get myself ready for my lone wolf war against the monster ming?

>>174097026
That would be better and in fact that is exactly what they did in Victoria 2, so I'm not sure why they would revert to a less informative name in EU4. Probably a different person was responsible for naming the trade goods in that game.

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How much is 10% of Ming's income?

>>174097367
>>174097807
Do you have a specific tactic you use when you attack ming?

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Mongols are true aryans
W&B

>>174086382
none of that matters if you don't fix the retarded planning system. None of what you said literally matters since you just draw a line and auto-win due to the bonuses.

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what the fuck is going on here

>>174097601
maybe they saw the video on how to get huge trade dosh from the spice islands?

Also they usually can't reach africa before portugal so they just stick to indonesia

>>174097849
a LOT

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How can we help improve Paradox's marketing towards women? CK2 is obviously a game that would be played by women interested in family dynamics and affairs but the title implies some form of medieval warfare game so they don't even consider it.

>>174097849

look their income on the ledger

>>174097849
at least 10 a month, 1000 development is no joke

always take war rep from them, it's huge

>>174097849
>>174098210
hover over shekel icon next to manpower and see for yourself

>>174097807
You can use allies in the first few years to keep the other nations off your back while you are doing your initial expansion but don't do any royal marriages and if Ming comes knocking it's probably best to just ignore the calle to arms.

>just get myself ready for my lone wolf war against the monster ming
You are pretty much ready as soon as you form manchu. Just have a lot of banner units and 300 development to trigger the unguarded frontier disaster. I stress again that the sooner you attack Ming the better as the benefits from mandate scale, so the higher they are able to build it over time, the stronger they are.

>>174097932
Just use your head a little and try to engage the Ming armies one at a time, preferably on flat terrain for the bonus shock. Banner units are very strong and Manchu's regulars are better than Ming's too, so with an army of 30k you should consistently be able to defeat Ming's 40-50k ones.

>>174098253

>gsg
>7%

I highly doubt it

>>174098253
theyre already trying with the feminist law bullshit in ck2 and the "women in history" in eu4

>>174098253
More vaccines for women

>>174090753
>ally korchin

seems like a bit of a waste imo

you can full annex haixi and korchin within the first 3 years of the game

I usually leave them for last after yeren though since disgusting vaginayna causes too much unrest

>>174098520
In that specific scenario I went after Korea first. Allying Korchin is to ensure that Haixi or Yeren do not jump on you while you are doing that. Simply don't agree to any marriages and break the alliance at your convenience.

>>174098253
Theres probably 10 girls playing these games, max.

>>174097807
If you really want to go fast you don't even need to wait for them to go below 50 mandate

horde units are stupid good, you can win fights 2:1 against Ming at around tech 5

just make sure you remove syncretic faith so you can get 100% cav ratio, because your infantry will definitely take a beating

>When you've BTFO'd Prussia but your population don't have enough jingo to add war goals

feelsbadman

>>174098656

9 of those were boys as a child

>>174098654
I suppose in that scenario yeah, but it could have been avoided if you just immediately full annex Haixi in the first year

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>>174098210
>>174098287
>>174098330
>>174098352
Not good enough.
How many did they get in Nanjing? I'm going for a new high score

>>174098803
1 is that BR grill that posts here

>>174098376
>>174098706
Ok, the sooner the better. But I do need 300 dev before I start, right?

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>>174098898

>BR grill that posts here

p-post her steam

>>174098849
If you go after Korea Yeren and Haixi are almost guaranteed to go to war against each other and you can swoop into Haixi and almost immediately occupy every provincve while their battered army is in Yeren.

>>174098949
Yes, for the unguarded frontier disaster to hit Ming you need to be 300 development.

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>Tfw you realize Colonialism spawned in England and there's no way for it to leave the island since Austria and France are both not friendly to it
>And the only one besides you colonizing the americas is England
>Tfw you are the savior of continental european technology once you have a new world colonial nation

>>174098949
Dev helps but even then mandate ticks down at about .30 per month, and the longer you remain independent near them the more likely they'll declare on you to stop that

My usual plan is to kill haixi, yeren and korchin within the first few years, beat the shit out of korea for a long truce and land to burn for mana, then declare on Ming with about 25 -
30 regiments while they're busy throwing away all their manpower fucking around with Oriat or Chagatai. Preferably Chagatai because it's farther away

ABSOLUTELY make sure you fight Korea beforehand because if you have no truce with them they can and usually will try to enforce peace on you while you're attacking Ming

Learned that the hard way and had to declare on them myself before they joined and waste time and money trying to get a quick white peace in the middle of my Ming war

>>174087726
Depends what you are trying to achieve, how much control you want, what the parties in your country are like, etc

I like the fascist one but fascists don't show up til late

France seems to get rekt in all my EU4 games now. I wonder if it's just a coincidence or if something changed in the latest patch.

>>174099215
kill the mexicans anon

do it for europ

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>>174099521
>>174099041
How do I know when the unguarded frontier disaster hits ming?

I just took the last provinces which are tipping me above 300, but I need to core them.

I'm tech 5, ming is tech 5 as well.

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>tfw you embrace colonialism before France

>>174099983
everyone near them gets an event popup about the disaster firing

they lose 20 mandate and 2 stab immediately so that would probably be the best time to strike if they're also in another war

>>174099215

abandon europe, let it become a hilarious backwater

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hol up

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vicky 2 is normally garbage, but it always has some great gems like this

>>174100008

getting colonialism as an east-asian nation is pretty easy ime

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>declare war on Siena for some North Italian clay
>they are allied to the Commonwealth
>instead of marching through one nation to get to me they send half of their army across the world to dick around in South America

Bravo Johan.

>>174099983
It will take fifteen to twenty years to fire as it ticks up. It happens faster if Ming is losing a war against you by 20% or more.

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>The 29th of October, 1946
>Rangoon, Burma
The homerule government of Burma has seen a shocking string of political murders in recent days. U Saw, a traitorous pre-war Prime Minister, has organized the killings of Aung San and members of his Anti-Fascist People's Freedom League cabinet. The AFPFL, a grand coalition of Socialists, Communists, and others advocating for Burmese independence, was invited (under Aung San) by the Governor-General to form government. A boycott by the opposition government saw the AFPFL win 173 out of a possible 210 seats.

Following the murders prominent socialist Thakin Nu has been invited to form the new government. His cabinet - following popular Burmese sentiment - is petitioning for a full disassociation from London, including refusal to enter into the Commonwealth Realms. This will be the pivotal moment for our Indian and East Asian holdings. With Pakistan and India maneuvering for independence we may be forced to fight to retain the Empire. Given the Leftist leanings of the Burmese government we can likely expect the Soviets to support them should we refuse their request for Independence.

>Let them go their own way
>Stay in Burma for now
>Stay in Burma forever!

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>this heir exists because of my 52 year old seed was planted in a 50 year old wench

no autism here

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What to name? I was thinking something comfy in Basque

>>174100443
So it's Burgundian succession strats of idling at positive warscore just to fuck em

>>174100919
2slow de alvis

seriously nobody's touched the Caribbean yet? What lazy timeline are you in?

>>174100879
not too bad desu

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Ok, so Ming started a war now against oirat.

I just hit mil tech 6. (ming 5)
I have a disaster coming soon.
I have negative stability and rebels coming soon.
I still have some cores to core.
I have low manpower, and already a loan.

Is this the time to strike at ming despite all this, or do I wait for more stability?

>>174101246
Oh and fucking horde unity is crashing down too. Wtf.

>>174101246
buy some horde unity, you can get more from looting provinces, might get you out of civil war before it's too late

that corruption is stupidly high what the fuck

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>>174101036
Portugal is colonizing Africa, Spain is doing largely nothing except beating up morocco some, and England is doing a small Brazilian colony. Pretty terrible colonizers this time around not going to lie.

>>174100919
Name new colonies after your ruler/a particularly good ruler from the past.

>>174101376
Yes I know, I don't know how you guys are doing this shitty thing, I am always in need for a loan, so instead I have debased currency.

Where do I buy horde unity?

>>174100532
FOREVER
O
R
E
V
E
R
not much of an empire without colonials to exploit

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>when you're trying your best to kill your character but he just won't fucking drop dead

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if i take it from them will they die

>>174101431

has anyone seen a game with historically strong european colonization by 1550 in this patch? i sure haven't

>>174101501
strengthen government for 100 mil, gets you 10 legitimacy, which is horde unity for you

always mothball forts, don't pay for army not at war, should have deleted your navy at gamestart, no advisors, your corruption should never be rising per month, always pay enough to keep it steady

your economy will still be lousy no matter what, you need to sustain yourself off loot/peace money until you can get that sweet korean/chinese development, Buryatia's gold mine also helps

The problem is banner units, they're too good not to use, but they're MORE expensive to upkeep than mercs, and they're usually cavalry

>>174101489
Good idea desu (I've had like 3/4 of my past rulers be Queens which would make for cute colony names)
What would be a good thing to name it in honor of a queen named Juana desu

>>174101746

for you

>>174101876
>>174101489

i like to name them after the ruler's spouse or heir

>>174101746
Take the Mandate not Beijing, you pussy.

How grob should a grobsinoiums be, /gsg/?

>>174102023
Indochina, Korea, Manchuria, Siberia, and Japan at least.

>>174101746
no, they just keep all their tributaries and get stronger from not having low mandate anymore

>>174102023

it should be as grob as what you see in the mirror

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Why the h*ck aren't their mercs disbanding or turning?

>>174101746

No. But you should probably take the mandate yourself anyway since you're in your little island so you won't get negative mandate from non-tributaries. At least I think that's how it works.

>>174101746
don't take the mandate until the last war, all their debuffs from low mandate get transferred to you

>>174102256
See
>>174102254

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>>174102023
Something like this.

>>174102324
Needs Siberia and Burma. And if you have Brunei you might as well get Indonesia.

>guy has claim on petty kingdom
>fabricate claim on land and give it to him
>press his claim
>he gains petty kingdom and becomes independent
I just wanted 3 more clays for my collection

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>be arabs
>allied with turkey
>want syria
>turkey gets dragged into a war with mamluks
>nocb mamluks to steal syria
>end up overextending to prevent turks from sieging anything
>mamluks predictably attack my frontmost siege force with a whole army
>turkish army immediately next door
>tfw turks wait 10 days to join battle
>tfw lost 10,000 men because of turkish spite