/fhg/ - For Honor General

2nd for console patch WHEN

I will marry Nobushi and live happily ever after
t.Warden

>>174070732
Saaaaaaaame

What did Ubisoft think their game would look like when they designed it the way they did?

>>174070615
>sliding doors prevent the dumb ai bushi from following you without you literally smacking her ass through them
>also enable absolutely-necessary cheese for the roach final boss
Turns out you can just sprint past everything anyway, so thank god for dumb ai.

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Pk shouldnt' be able to fient

>>174070635
Not soon enough.
Literally had a game yesterday where a Rep 25 Berserker was spawn camping with revenge by using Throw>Heavy>Heavy and killing you before the camera even zoomed in.

>>174070871
haa

>>174070732
As a bushi main I will take extra steps to BM any wardens I come across today

>>174071004
i love it
that's why i am marrying you

>>174071118
Your head is mine knight scum

Bushi.exe

This game feels so unfun. Whether you win or lose it feels like it's because of cheap bullshit and not because someone's better than the other.

>>174071315
i hope you have a big bush, bushi, because i will un-bushi you on our wedding night, while holding hands

>>174070871
What the hell? Is that even possible?

>>174071653
whatever, in short we will fuck like rabbits with passionate love on our wedding night while holding hands and hugging tenderly

How do we make conq more fun to play as but not a huge pain in the ass to the oponnent?

>>174071859
You literally don't. It's just how the game is.

>>174071859
absolute and complete rework
will throw some ideas once i get back, g2g now

>>174071859
Complete rework.

Superior block has to go, shieldbash has to go. He needs an incentive to charge his heavy attack ( maybe make it unblockable / unparriable ) and a decent zone attack

>>174071778
Yep. Max Revenge Gain by Injury/Defense (since they stack for some fucked up reason pre-patch), secondary Revenge Attack, minimum Revenge timer duration.

All of that in combination with Bounty Hunter and Revenge off of damage dealt meant he was literally unstoppable despite us having a Shugoki who would backbreak him nonstop because he would dodge attack like crazy and then GB a random opponent for the free kill.

>>174071859

You take everything he has away and map his animations onto goki

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Stopped playing the game after the second week because my pc broke. I know about the valkyrie buffs but what about the rest? Can you guys give me a quick rundown?

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>>174072381

There has been a shitload.
only class untouched is Raider, iirc.
There have been small mechanical changes and bugfixes to most classes. Mostly quality of life stuff.

The tiers haven't really changed, but things are more compressed. That is, the low-tier is closer to the high tier than it was. So it's been basically positive work by the devs, if perhaps overly cautious.

Revenge abuse is way, way less gamebreaking than it was while still remaining an important mechanic.

There have been quality-of-life buffs to steel output and Orders in general. There are a lot of different orders in the queue now that you have more leeway in which mode or gametype to play. Steel rates got bumped up by about 50%, but combined with the new Orders it is pretty easy to rack up 1500 steel with an hour of play.

>>174072381
Conq went CAN'T BONQ to BONQ'D
Warlord got a tiny bit tonned down but is still ass to fight against since his kit hold fucking everything and is able to throw you for half the map
PK is still cancer
Talk of toning down Wardens to stop players sucking themselves into their own vortexes
Kensei went from okay to very okay, but still has lots of trouble opening people that goes into Maus tank mode
Judge Dredd got a way shittier Kensei treatment
Raider still legendary, talk of him finally getting a buff
Some changes to berserker but since I never really play that I tend to not give a fuck and thus cannot tell you what changed

That's all I can think of right now.

>>174072381
Charging fat guys is the new meta in tournament play.
Valk is now top tier due to her PK-esq Lightspam combined with the ability to mixup.
All the top tiers were supposed to be nerfed, but the only thing that ended up being accomplished was Conq being essentially deleted.
Lawbringer has a ton of free damage now which should make him viable.

Turtle meta with guard swapping autists poking each other is still meta.

>>174071859

Superior block has a longer activation delay.

Shield Bash has no super armour and costs 25 - 30 Stamina.

Give Heavy attacks a charge meter, where at max they are unblockable and unparriable (how do you parry a flail?)

Able to move forward or backwards while using Zone.

>>174071859
Make his lights unparryable and give him a way to grab his opponent from a distance like in the executions.

Have a system where Conq can whiff lights for no stamina and build up momentum somehow like his heavy

>>174073493
>Give Heavy attacks a charge meter,
so shugoki heavy?

>>174073794
>so shugoki heavy?

Yeah, basically.

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this fucking game

>>174072006
>>174071859

remove retarded flail
give him a mace
>light attacks
make side lights 500ms
top 600 ms
change infinite light chain into light>light>light(shield hit that drains stamina and stuns)
parrying it gives the same punishment as any other light parry
>heavies
side heavies 25 dmg
top slower 30 dmg
heavy>heavy chain (think warden)
are short range (gb after being parried)
>chaged heavy
charging it drains more stamina
but fully charged is unblockable with stam drain and a stun
>bash
bash is punishable on miss, but can be softfeinted from heavy
confirms into a light as is now
>fullblock
on fullblock block a guaranteed shield bash
or a heavy (can be blocked if attacked from that direction)

no more heavy shield bash or a wallstun without a gb
regular feints

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>>174071859
What if conq could sprint while having a fully charged flail?

Then use it like a running attack?

>console
>vs lvl 3 bots
>nobushi bot goes from hidden stance to top lights
That's physically fucking impossible on console. Fuck right off.

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>>174075810

Wouldn't running, scientifically speaking, actually decrease the force of your flail attack?

>>174076195
shut the fuck up you dumb nerd

Just fought a Conq bot with an infinite chain of high speed uninterruptible omnidirectional lights

what
the fuck
was that even

>>174076195
>>174076280
not me

>>174076195
No?
It's putting momentum+full body weight+flail rotation into one swing
Like rotating your whole body to back up a straight punch

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>Executioner hood for Raider when?
>Chopping block execution for raider when?
>Battle-torn look for warden when?
cape all torn to shit and shit

I just had someone block my attack and attack me at the same time.

Pls Ubi explain this shit

>>174077082
who was the char?

>>174077207
Warden

>>174077259
That was a crushing counter dear newfriend

>>174076186
>nobushi bot goes from hidden stance to top lights
You are forgetting an important step.
>nobushi bot goes from top guard to hidden stance to top lights

Getting hit by anything out of hidden stance is your own fault.

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Is game not shit yeah ? Is revenge bullshit actually gone ?

>>174077067
Well we've almost got a chopping block animation in the new excution pack set to come out.
Too bad it still doesn't decap for some fucking reason.

>>174077259
was it a golden, glowy overhead? if so, that was crushing counterstrike

otherwise, it was just ubishit doing the usual

>>174077910
it's far less bullshit, but still not worth ganking an assassin over

>>174077404
He started to attack me at the same time I attacked him but my attack got blocked and his didn't he didnt even parry me

>>174077910
They "Fixed" it, but personally i like the old revenge better.

>>174078049
Yeah, i read some messages higher in the thread. Also Kensei buffed, that's pretty good. I was doing very good with him already.

>>174078059
post crushingcounter webm for him pls, don't have my supply here

>>174078059
CRUSHING COUNTER, you noobfag. Look it up. Also don't spoonfeed him.
>>174078204

>>174078204
Wasn't an unblockable overhead he literally just attacked me with a normal heavy at the same time as me and mine got blocked

>>174078340
it was a light you dipshit

>>174078315
>don't spoonfeed him
Fuck off. The guy was asking for advice and people want to give it.

The thread is dead as is. Might as well bump it with actual discussion instead of shipshit.

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I've seen screenshots of orochi with the sode shoulder armour that kensei has

Is that orochi armour actually ingame?

>>174078340
Warden has a property on his top lights that allow him to parry and deal heavy damage at the same time. It's got tighter timing than a parry for the warden
Don't attack warden from top

>>174078961
Unless you are an assassin char then you can parry the cc

>>174078591
We said it was crushing counter and he's like "nuh uh ! it's heavy !" He can go fuck himself for all i care he's probably 15

>>174070842
They got the lightest weapons in the game. I don't see why they can't.

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Fuck me I hate playing against a Orochi as a LB. All they do is spam top lights, guardbreak the fuck out of me after a parry, and do that fucking flicker zone attack.

>>174082894
don't throw random heavies if you dont want to get parried unless you meant they parry your top light head bonk, also i know this is tough to do but don't look at their attack indicators but their animations they will drop to te ground when doing a zone if i can do it on ps4 at 30 fps you surely can do it too on 60 fps

>>174083737
These fuckers parry my lights. And the guardstance chance speed for LB is so slow that even the best reaction time can't help even block these Cerebral palsy fucks.

>>174082894
advice vs orochi
stop trying to parry his top light, since he can mess you up with similar looking heavies and feints, parry his zone isntead, that cannot be canceled

>>174084019
The top flicker always throws me off because I switch to block to top light but it turns out to be a zone attack and it hits me.

>>174084248
you have to stop looking at the indicators only, i know it's hard but look for the animation and listen to the sounds, most attacks have a distinct sound que

>>174084419
Is there anyway to choose which character I fight in an AI practice game? It's always a fucking Valk or Shug for me.

>>174084502
Custom matches

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No community order this week?

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>I know Wardens shoulder is being nerfed
>But what if you buff it instead!
Warden mains are delusional

>>174086423
>tfw i just picked up warden today
It feels so dirty to use the shoulder bash, but at least i dont spam it. I end up using it more like a dodge gb anyways.

>>174086423
He is wrong about lawman's 50/50 since you can just dodge the shove entirely unless he blocks
but he doesnt really seem to be "crying" about it, i do would also like for warden to have a pommel strike stun even if it deals no damage.

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>When the top player on the enemy team is a high-rep warden with revenge gear spamming heavies

>>174087707
High rep doesnt mean you are good, he could have been doing 4v4 only all that time and he would still not learn how to play the game.

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>No shoulder cape cosmetic for Lawbringer
What a waste of my money.

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>>174088205
>No capes in general

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>Dude just roll away from the oni charge lmao
>But I can't roll away from the Warden vortex!
It's amazing that people are complaining about the literal cheapest move in the game being removed

>>174077067
Well we've got the chainmail hood for Raider that's... closeish

>>174070436
Is this game playable without constantly erroring out of matches to the menu or crashing to desktop?

I quit shortly after launch because I was unable to complete any matches without crashing. Can I reinstall yet?

>>174089594
there are some crashes still but it from my experience i rarely get one now.

stopped playing 2 weeks after release


any major changes since then?

>>174088639
>>174088205
No flowing silky, colored clothes for Nobushi while she dances with her weapon.

>no unique royal/mystical inspired clothes for any of the characters
>just upgraded rags and tags, chains and ropes

>>174091001

Yes.
But only for the PC.

>>174086319
We'll probably get one for the last 5 days for like 5000st to celebrate the season.

I hope. Season rewards are actually supposed to be pretty dope though anyways.
Something about exclusive ornaments.

>>174092359
>Exclusive ornaments
Well I'm gonna be pissed, knights never had a fucking chance

>>174092485
they're probably going to be garbage. theres tons of ornaments that you can find in the campaign that are generic as fuck. But I can bet that the faction war is basically rigged anyways.
>knights won the beta round
>vikings or samurai win next round
>and the loser of that wins the next one
etc.

>>174089085
hes right about the valk tho

>>174092485
Doesn't Siege have exclusive shit?

>>174089085
Make 1 mistake and you're on the ground eating spears
THIS

>>174093247
Dudes retarded for thinking the Oni charge is balanced at all, but yeah Valk is ridiculous

>39 IPs
Dead fucking game at last.

so why do retards think that warlord and pk are suddenly garbage now and warden is better?

>>174093234
As far as outfits and headgear, only for season pass users, and it is a newer development decision to start giving new characters one extra outfit/headgear for season pass users.
All other stuff related to timed events/ranked season rewards are just stupid weapon charms and holiday weapon skins.

>>174094656
No one ever said they are garbage but for some reason people love to bitch about warden vortex

>>174095201
Honestly its pretty fucking easy to dodge and punish, like conq level easy. IDK, but ive never had a issue but I also main zerker.

>>174095201
Because his vortex is so fucking boring to fight against, along with it being cheap.
>Literally every single high rep Warden uses his vortex like a crutch
Win or lose, the fight is just fucking annoying

>>174095070
Inb4 ugly and unfitting easter themed weapons for the heroes of winning faction.
>>174095309
What char are you?

>>174095531
Lol I bet he plays a PK or a Orochi. Or he is one of those kensai nerds.

>>174095746
If he was any of those classes especially pk he wouldnt have any problem interrupting the bash unless he is really bad.

>Have dom execution order selected
>Do hella executions in dom
>None of it was counted for the order
Thanks.

>playing 2v2's
>First time playing as a valk
>Map is river fort
>teammate leaves right at the start
>Enemy ledges the NPC within the first 15 seconds each round
>Stuck fighting a 2v1 against a lawbringer and a orochi

Your god damn right I quit.

>>174096192
Pussy

How do I counter a overly defensive Nobushi who abuses the fast attack speed to poke me to death. Its pissing me off because I dont want to get close for fear of getting kicked and side heavied to death, but if I stay far away im just going to get poked with those same combos. I wish everyone was as straight forward to fight as the raider, warden, conq, and zerker.

>>174095872
but he would get parried by canceled bashes.

>>174096397
you can dodge her kick if you leave it late enough

>>174096423
dont always attack from same direction, roach can top light or zone and pk can just mash r1 canceling it even before you can cancel it yourself, kensei would be the only one risking a parry but just because some characters have less options against the vortex doesnt mean you should nerf it instead you should buff those classes to be on par with warden.

>>174096605
If she lands a light before that your going to eat the kick and then the fallowed heavy. Im not buying this "You can just dodge it" thing, is it like how you can just dodge the valk sweep? IF so go fuck your self.

>>174097323
Kick can be easily dodged what are you even talking about?

>>174097695
Not if you take a light right before, your staggered and cant dodge it.

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>tfw an Orochi uses the same guardswitch trick every time but you're too slow to avoid being damaged by it and you die

I executed his little bitch ass later but holy fuck is this annoying

>>174098037
Why would you guard anywhere but top? all they can do is top and zone and to not be tricked bu the flicker you look at their animation

>>174098247

He killed me because he kept side hitting me when I guarded top.

>>174098496
>he kept side hitting me when I guarded top.
Roach side lights are slow enough to be reaction parried

>>174098723

Not for me when I have to switch guards, apparently.

Im not sure what the attack is, but I guard top when I fight kensai because they have that super quick light attack, but they change it to sides and I honestly dont think its possible to react to those quick jabs, I dont think my guard changes quick enough.

>guy is afk whole previous match
>He's afk in this match
>I am stuck him and two bots

And Ubisoft legitimately wonders why this game is dying

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>When people start to get their ass kicked and just run away from you

Feels shugoki, man.

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Holy shit why did no one tell me how much fun berserker is, his feint game and damage are so fucking good. Also the sounds he makes are hilarious, and his emotes are some of the best to spam. I think I finally found a Viking I will enjoy playing.
Shame all his executions suck ass

>>174099125

Shugo-kill yourself

is there anything more cancer than fighting a max geared warlord with all passive feats on?

its like a goddamn raidboss, hits like a truck and takes barely any damage

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>get roach to rep 6 with maxed gear
>decide to try out the LAW
>no fucking idea what I'm doing
>also keep trying to reaction parry and deflect thinking I'm still roach

I don't wanna be a zone/vortex spamming warden or a faggy PK. Conq looked fun but apparently he's useless now. only other characters I'm remotely competent with are Kensei and Nobushi, both at rep 1. nob, despite being waifu tier is boring as sin and I suck shit at Ken's mixup/fakeout game.

should I just git gud with LB? to be fair I've never even played him outside of the campaign.

>>174100702

Conq is still good, bash is still hard to dodge, try shugoki he is top fun

>>174100702
Lawbringer is very rewarding once you've learned him, but it can be frustrating to have no openers. I hear Orochi is no different though

DONT

DIE

TILL

THE

ROMAN

I dont get this ded game posts

every game I play takes less than 2 mins to connect and its always players I havent played before

>>174098806
A parry will come out even before a guard switch, since it works by meeting the attack not blocking

Can someone explain to me why Ubisoft chose some retarded natural disaster for their story line instead of making it Mortal Kombat 2.0?

>>174100135
His new one where he holds both the axes together and swings like a batter to decapitate is great, imo

>>174101902
Mortal combat had a shit story, also who plays for honor for the story?

>>174100702
You can still reaction parry like Orochi, it's not affected by the slower guard switch. Shove of every successful block and heavy, if the opponent is too good to get hit by the follow up light or gb, it still keeps their stamina low. Feint for parries you get a guaranteed light, parrying a light gets you a guaranteed heavy any direction, undodgeable and unparryable.
Shoving can ledge people and use long arm repeatedly to gank while you're ally hits them im 4v4.
My personal favorite mixup is wall throw into taunt into long arm into taunt, use it well. Happy impaling.

>>174102105
Some of the story/lore/world-building is interesting, like the knights' use of technology they no longer understand, like their bridge launchers. It isn't a world I wouldn't mind exploring in a different kind of game.

Single player For Honor action RPG when?

>>174102610
Maybe. I think short dlc episodes set in a vague chronology where you play the new heroes would be a better way to expand the lore. But it would have to be the same gameplay as usual.

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>>174102000
>spits on the guy after hacking his head off
awful

>>174102993
I'd like that.
The story in the campaign we have isn't terrible, the problem is everyone sprints through without looking at any of it.

I dislike how you have to wait til rep 3 to get good gear

how am I suppossed to play against a rep 15 pker with 108 gear with base gear myself?

>>174103283
Get good

>>174103349

good one

>>174103420
Unlike you

>>174103176
>The story in the campaign we have isn't terrible
It really is though. The writing is terrible, the characters are shallow and the world building borders on nonsensical. Apollyon's narration during the collectibles only makes it all slightly better

Warden bros, i picked up warden yesterday and am wondering what you can do after you get a crushing counterstrike

>>174104107

you dont get anything, crushing counter is its own thing, it does mad damage considering its a light, maybe you can shoulder bash after it but i dunno

>>174104107
Feint side heavy into gb/zone, or just zone them, or vortex them, or back off and recover stamina. I'm not a warden main, so I might be missing a better follow-up, I've beaten a few high rep wardens using my shitty no rep warden using those options though.

>>174095531
Lawbringer. And yes I can interrupt it with my light, but once I start doing that Warden players just instantly start turtling so they can parry vortex.
Playing against Warden is literally no fun allowed, don't allow them to vortex and they'll just start turtling so you have no choice but to either make it a staring contest, or let them parry my slow as shit attacks

>>174098037
Was he just doing the stance dance, or was he using his zone flicker bug? I cannot stop his zone for the life of me even though I know it's fucking coming because of the flicker

>>174101658
KEEP THE FIRE OF ROME ALIVE

Lawbringer is such an annoying cunt post patch

Why is it that when an LB parries me he gets a confirmed AD MORTEM but that never happens when I use my LB?
I'm on crosscube

>Still no class as fun as Kensei to me

I fucking hope the Centurion is rad

>>174105153
Stop getting your lights parried

>>174104746
I used to main orochi, I normally beat them with whatever I use (random select duels) basically the zone always hits your right guard, so just have right guard up the whole fight, change when you see the animation (not his guard go up) for his top light (you'll be able to recognise it before the indicator, but you won't have to bc that and gb is all they go for). You don't have to be good at parrying those, just blocking them, the orochi will get frustrated and use something easy to parry (the entire rest of his moves are reaction parryable).
If you want more specific advice for countering orochis other plays just ask

>>174104746

Do you mean the thing where he spins? It was that, yeah. I fucking hate it, seems like every Orochi does it.

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>Take time out of your playtime to baby a new player and teach them how to play because I'm terrified this game will die!
This is getting near battleborn terms of panic about player loss

>>174105389
Why do the fuck do lights give a larger window of attack than heavies? It should be the other way around.

>>174105525
Because that's just how the game works.

>>174105457
If he's spinning towards you, that's his dash attack, hooks guard up. If he's spinning sideways, hold guard in the direction he's moving, his dash attacks are all locked into one direction.

>>174105454
I do guard right, but I've falling for top feints into zone which fucks me. It's so fucking annoying, they need to fix the flicker already
>>174105457
Pretty much all assassins do it because their stance change is so fast. They think it makes them harder to react to

>>174105580
WHY DOES IT WORK THAT WAY

>>174070842
Why do people STILL hate PK?

>>174099125
>Playing elimination as literally any character
>Beat a Roach/Nobushi/Valk/PK easily
>Once they get below half health they just turn tail and run, and because of sprint speed being maxed out you'll almost never catch them
And of course they always come back with another person and gangbang you then emote like crazy even though they had to run away

>>174105697
Light attacks are unreactable on console which is where the biggest playerbase is

>>174105675
Probably to reward you for parrying the much faster attack

>>174105648
Who do you play? Your light might interrupt top heavy making his feint useless.

>>174105697
Her lights are literally too fast on console to react to. I've been fucking crushed by below rep 1 PKs because they spam lights. As long as they don't try dash attacks or heavies I have a hard fucking time blocking them, let alone parrying

>>174105806
Well they are reactable, just some chars have slow guard change and at least half the player base is too slow to react. PK is a noob stomper.

>>174105840
Lawbringer currently

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>>174105883
Just play Lawbringer or Shugoki

>>174105989
I play Lawbringer and almost exclusively try ledging PKs. They always spam WOW but I'm not gonna give them the chance to light spam me to death

>>174101491
>it can be frustrating to have no openers
Oh FUCK OFF. Lawbringer has some of the best offense in the game now.

>>174106147
No he doesn't
He has some of the best defense

>>174106309
He has both. Shove is a more cancer move than Headbutt ever was since he can do it out of blocks, and Impaling Riposte on any attack guarantees a massive combo so long as you aren't on a 100ft long bridge with no walls.

>>174106568
Neither of those is an offensive tool

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>dominion match
>enemy team is all rep 2/3s against maybe one rep 1
>we win because they spend the entire game sprinting and running away from every single enemy and only trying to cap points that aren't contested
>literally do nothing but run, only fight when completely cornered
>next game they keep doing it until one of them realizes they're the host and quits, crashing the match

>>174106647
Shove is ABSOLUTELY an offensive tool now. You're not even supposed to be able to block the light attack followup, so it turns into a 50/50 whenever they bugfix it. Hell, it already is practically a 50/50.

>>174106751
Shove can be dodged and before you say something retarded like "you're gonna get guard broken", you can't cancel shove. Into anything.

>>174105987
Top light is your friend. Shove or of neutral if you're stuck, you've got the hp for it.
If you get good at reading his side dodges and back dodges, go for that untechable gb as their dodge starts, then side heavy-shove-light or throw them into a wall for a free topheavy-shove-longarm-toplight.
Throw out side heavies (after light for the chain) while hes far away to catch him out, if he parrys at max distance he gets nothing from it anyway.
It's funny cos I main lb now too after maining orochi up to rep4. It might help you to play orochi for about a dozen levels and learn him, best way to learn his timings.

>>174106840
Shove also has a wider hitbox than Headbutt and can be done off of a block.

>>174106936
Doesn't make it an offensive tool

>>174105524
>This is getting near battleborn terms of panic about player loss
but battleborn was DoA, there was nobody to be concerned about losing players
for honor's still got a couple hundo thousand strong

>>174106996
>Warlord's Headbutt can be done off of a dash or when blocking in full stance
>it's not an offensive tool

>>174107086
Two different moves
Go ahead and try to use shove to open someone decent up, make sure to report results

>>174105004
BROTHER ANON, REALLY THE LEGIONS!

WE'RE GONNA PUSH BACK THESE HEATHENS AND BUILD A NEW EMPIRE

>>174105163
Same here, I hope he has a fairly varied moved set

>>174106936
And yet I have no problem sidestepping it and GBing them, or back rolling so they get nothing. If they do hit it their light is easy to block and they can't cancel it into gb so I only have to cgb or block, which is hardly different from playing in neutral.

>>174107013
Yeah we have a decent amount of players, specifically on console, but the some of the playerbase is still panicking to the point of going onto the official forums and literally trying to convince people to baby new players so they stay

Jesus Christ I'm fucking losing my mind, I can't counter Orochis for shit. They hit for so much damage and spam GBs so often I can't get a handle on them.

>>174107296
I'll help a new player out (very occasionally) but it's not out of fear that the playerbase will drop I just find it rewarding.

>>174107451
They only hit top or right side. Commit everything to else to blocking and git gud at countering top lights. Play the defensive meta. There's a reason it's the meta. Orochi cant open people for shit.

>>174107451
How many times lol.
Guard right for their zone, reaction guard top if they try top lights.
Sidestep attacks and storm rush are direction locked parry bait, at least block them. Side lights are reaction parryable for a lot of people, just block them.
Don't dodge ever.
Go into each fight (not just orochi) thinking about guard brake all the time, focus on just that even if it makes you lose, you'll end up getting CGB on reaction 9/10 times.

>>174107742

The problem is that we either just GB/CGB each other and I'm eventually too slow, and attempting to hit him with an attack doesn't work because he can interrupt me every time.

>>174107931

Alright, I'll try. Thanks.

>>174107210
>two different moves
They are LITERALLY the same move now.

Is a team of Lawbringers the most obnoxious shit ever?

>>174108602
After the newest patch it is.

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r8 my emblems

duuude what is this fucking queue time? did this game die? i just want to play a fucking game why does it take 10 minutes

>>174108418
Sure

>>174108694
post tutorial for sunass

>>174108737
Great argument!
>Headbutt is a move that can be done after a dodge or from a full block
>gets a free hit and a followup hit or guard break mixup
>Shove is a move than can be done aftera dodge or from a block
>gets a free hit and a followup hit or guard break mixup

>Playing elimination
>Get matched against a Roach
>They run the instant they start to lose
>Always come back with either multiple buffs or backup
>Taunt like crazy when they win
So sick of this

>>174109013
i just looked at one i saw and made my own based on it, there is no tutorial as far as i know

but the ass and tail only take 3 slots, so you can do it for any pony that has a cute mark you can make with 2 symbols

>>174109368
>playing Conqueror in duels
>being aggressive and not just turtling in full block for an easy punish
>even after a Nobushi who did nothing but parry into guardbreak wins 3-2 he says "turtle"
epic

>feel bad when playing warlord or shugo
>decide to play kensei
>matched against a warden who literally only blocks and shoulderbash
>no way to open him up even after guessing his 50/50

hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahna

>kill a roach because he can't handle the same fucking light attack mix up spam he throws out religiously
>he quits
WHEN WILL THESE MANLETS LEARN?1

>>174102561
>parrying a light gets you a guaranteed heavy any direction, undodgeable and unparryable.

but I've had people parry/block AD MORTEM. does that just not count?

>someone tewlls me to stop spamming vak sweep mixups

am I just supossed to light attack him to death?

>>174109368
when they run go 2v1 one of their teammates in a fight already so they have the numbers disadvantage for boost greeding. Plus if you're winning you can defend against them so their boosts can be stalled out when you fight them again.

>>174110250
They can't block Ad Mortem ever. But sometimes it can be parried because you were slow with the inputs or the target is a conqueror.

>>174110732
I know how to counter it and not to try blindly chasing them, but it's just so fucking annoying that they can so easily escape to avoid dying. And in elimination you just need to grab a shield and boom, second health bar

>>174110250
AD MORRTEM INIMICUUSS is what I was talking about, are you sure you didn't parry a heavy? Heavy parry counter attacks can be parried/dodged it has to be off a light parry.

>"Valkyrie is low tier man, she's not cancer at all."
>"You have to be good to play her and bad to lose against her."
>"I really hope they buff her mixups, she needs something to make her better."

These people are honestly delusional.

>>174110996

shes isnt very good desu

>Load into an elimination game
>Game starts with my team having two bots
>Round 1 kill my opponent and them spam sorry before leaving the game
Games should NEVER fucking start with bots to begin with because of how shitty they are, but two on a team? That's just begging to lose.
Even after I killed my opponent I saw both bots were already dead. I only stayed to kill him too to try to lend a hand to that last guy in case he decided to stay.

>Ubisoft wants to punish quitting when games start with half the team being bots
Shits gonna be awful

>>174110934
yeah, just figured out parrying lights stall them longer. still haven't quite figured out how to shove off a block.

>>174111132
>500ms lights
>sweep guarantees at least 30% damage and can't be dodged out of attacks by slower characters
>mixups are Warden tier
>full block stance makes her virtually invincible and tracks you 180 degrees for a knockdown, stun, and two free hits

Not very good honestly.

>tfw can block/parry better on keyboard but gank fights are too hard

what do

>>174111132
She's low high tier in my opinion
>Great speed on her lights
>Insane mix ups with her bash, sweep, and charged bash
>Charged bash is basically a time out for her, you can't do anything once she's in it without risking getting bashed
>Insane range on her lunge attacks, good luck ever escaping a her if you try running
She's not the best, but far from the worst

>>174111145
the instant you hear the clunk sound tap gb, similar to CGB timing but bigger window

How do you counter Lawbringer unblockable spam? The pancake flip and the shove.

>>174111275
>>174111318
This is only good against players who aren't good. I'm not defending valk bc I don't play her and find her lights annoying as shit on ps4 but I know for sure she's not viable against a top 5 hero with a player good enough to reliably parry light attacks.

>>174111338
back off and don't let him corner you.

>>174111338
Solution is the same for both, and easy for both.
Dodge to the side and guard break him at your leisure. Both moves are strongly telegraphed, have little to no tracking, and have long recovery during which they can't counter guard breaks.

>>174111338
if it's a shove out of neutral (not off a block) sidestep and you get an untechable gb on him. If it's off a shove you can backroll(not dodge) or get ready to block/cgb.
His pancake flip is sidestepable, you can also gb him if you go for it at the same time as him, and again, roll.

>>174111275

only the first is 500ms

sweep needs bash or 2 lights to even use it, try landing 2 lights or a bash from neutral vs a good player

mix ups arent bad but it mostly centers on the sweep which if dodged gives a free gb

full block is not that great, I barely use it because its easy to see coming

anyone have better keybindings for kb+m?

>>174111580
>>174111672
>>174111749

ty

Someone fucking explain to me why if a warden misses his shoulder charge, that a gb isn't guaranteed. Do they just get a get out of jail free card because they're the first class?

lol funny thing that... knights seem to be winning the last round in the season, or am i mistaken?

>>174111482
>guy says that Valkyrie players say she is only good against shitters
>first response says "this is only against players who aren't good"
>"btw I don't play valk"
epic

>>174112015
It sometimes is.

>>174112251
Not like the map matters at all until the last couple hours. Knights have always had good showings on the weekends.

>>174111338
Dodge and dodge.

>>174111338

This is bait.

>>174112430
They definitely need to fix this about the faction war. Everything is completely meaningless except for the final day or two

>>174112675
They should just use a cumulative score for territories held at the ends of each update period.

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D E L E T E S H U G O K I

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>174113067
fuck you

>>174113067
He'll be tuned down in a couple weeks, chill.

>Jumped on the Law bandwagon when I heard he was getting a buff
>Actually having a ton of fun with him
>Got him to rep 5 and I'm almost always at the top of the scoreboard in elimination
>This is on console so I don't even have his buff yet
Why did no one tell me how fun he is to play?
Also am I really good for constantly carrying games as Law, or am I just playing against horrible people?

>>174113418

the last one

>>174113418
bad people.
prepatch he was only decent with a team.
1v1 he had no openers, no confirm hits on flips, weak parry opportunities aside from a side heavy>feint. He was just mediocre as fuck outside of being a burger flipper for the team

how come no one comaplins about nobushi kick?

unpunishable on dodge


I feel like Im getting worse the more I play this game

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this was a joke right?

>>174112430

Welp i'm hitched to knights so ive got no skin in the game at this point, but cheers for the info on how utterly stupid the whole system is. I honestly never paid any attention to the thing until i seen we were ahead tonight.

skirmish is so much fucking autism
>its a 4v4 orgy in a single room for over half the game
>im just running around from person to person, grabbing them with my shug
>everyone is jsut popping revenge over and over again

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>>174113582
>>174113636
t. people who have no idea how to play Lawbringer.

He was decent before the patch and he's retarded now. He was built to be a counter attacker so I don't know why people are surprised he doesn't have good offense. That was until they gave him a ridiculous 50/50 and buffed shit he didn't even need or deserve.

>>174114102
stop being a ledging faggot you no honor piece of shit.
if you are playing brawl or elimination and EVER 2v1 you are a cunt nigger and deserve to get gassed.

>>174114102

Are you the only guy who does this

>>174114073
Yeah it's shitty, especially because my first instinct when dodging is to try to GB or hit them, but their light comes out too fucking fast

>>174114260
to be fair 2v1ing in brawl is fucking retarded because it's just going to give the 1 person revenge

>>174114184
Get over yourself, the only thing remotely problematic is a block going into a 50/50 if they don't roll away.

>>174114073
because its 800ms, iirc. Slower than both LB neutral shove and conq bash which are both dodgeable.

>>174114184
t. man who doesn't want to take responsibility for losses

I hear zerk is underpowered now, you can play him

>>174114102
Sadly no, people are that fucking autistic. I've gotten dozens of saltmail messages because I was "dishonorable" by ganking or ledging someone in fucking 4v4. Some of them have even claimed to have reported me for it

And then there's turbo autists who will literally force you to play by their rules
>Get into a game of elimination
>Facing a turtling Warlord, having a fucking hard time doing anything against him because he's only ever using headbutt and waiting to parry me
>All of my teammates kill their guys and come over
>Signal for help
>They just emote and watch
>Obviously die, because it's a turtling warlord
>I can be picked up though
>Signal for a revive
>They all ignore me and 1v1 the Warlord instead of reviving me
I just quit when I have honorfags on my team. I'll get way too fucking angry if I don't. I play games to have fun and relax, not have some fucking autist impose his super special rules and refuse to help/revive people

>>174114184
No. You're just under the impression you're good fighting console shits. They only thing he had prepatch off a parry was a light. He wasn't even a "counter attacker". It's not a 50/50 atm because the light can be blocked, and you can cgb.

>>174114151
It's a fucking gang street fight

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>>174114184

hit the nail on the head tbqh, and i hear he is getting buffed again -.- i honestly sometimes have no other option than to warden shove vortex a good lb otherwise it's a starting contest and i hate doing it.

>>174112675
Devs already said they're working on it to attract people into it. But, considering they haven't even addressed some launch problems we can expect the solution in a few months

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>>174113229
A reply as autistic as that can only be from a Shitgoki main.

>Kill yourself please

>>174114279
i'm actually not that usual guys who does it.
>>174114260
what?

>>174114850
You SHUld GO KIll yourself

>>174114485
All I'm saying is that they made him way too good offensively for a character built to have such great defensive options.

>>174114548
You retards said the same thing last thread, he's just not fun anymore.

>>174114627
I'm a PC player. He had plenty of options prepatch, it's just that people that played him where shitters, now they're just getting rewarded for playing him like a shitter. Please don't lecture me on how to play me main. Blocking lights after a shove is a bug and it's getting fixed, it'll be a true 50/50 when that happens.

>>174114746
He's just too strong in too many areas now. Characters are meant to have strengths and flaws.

>>174114905
>Not saying "ShugoKill Yourself
>Missing the opportunity

>>174114979
Yeah that's why I said "atm".
I will lecture you on your main because you legit think that he had any options off of a parry or a block. He had nothing aside from feints. Pre-patch he was useless aside from flipping tards and the occasional ad mortem off top lights.

>>174115150
He had PLENTY of options on parries. It's not like Impaling Riposte and Light Riposte didn't work before the patch. The only thing in his kit that was arguably useless was Make Way and it still is.

>>174114850
>fucking PEACE NIGGER complaining about shugoki
fucking off yourself you faggot nigger, you are the fucking cancer kill this game.

>>174115253
I already said he had light off a parry. That's it. Impaling was not confirmed and could be blocked. Sooo, what, parry and get a light, a shitty zone, or a gb into a heavy that cant be chained? Yeah, amazing options right there.

>>174115446
Impaling Riposte was confirmed on light parries, Light Riposte can punish at any distance, and guardbreak into heavy is great damage and gets a free shove to eat some stamina.

>>174114979
>All I'm saying is that they made him way too good offensively for a character built to have such great defensive options.
What are his offensive options?

>>174115402
>Whining about Peacekeeper still
>Literally just screeching unironically
>Being this fucking retarded

>>174115756
Inb4 he claims the shove from neutral is too good like some kind of idiot

controller is so fucking slow for blocking

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>when the faggot ass roach just keeps dodging/parrying everything and turtles waiting for an opening to do chip damage
>tfw as he comes in to kill you, you trade with him using a demon's embrace, instantly 100%ing him

Why can't they just rig revenge to build on the attacker instead of defender in 1v1 situations? Bam, defensive meta solved. You can have that one for free.

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>Play Duel
>Person keeps parrying light.
>Everyone in Duel is like this.
>Keep Dying.

How do you even parry with different guard? Whenever I do it I fail, I always have to switch to same guard.

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>>174116008
>WOW!
>WOW!
>WOW!

>>174116162
>Nobushi
>Failing at blocking
>Failing at parrying
>Failing at all
It checks out.

>>174115756
Feint into top light or Long Arm is good, although Long Arm is incredibly bad if it whiffs. Feint into Shove works for me sometimes. Feint into guardbreak. Top light into heavies. Set up combos from a distance and use the strong string ends to bait a response. He's no worse off on offense then somebody like Kensei who has a good kit, and he's arguably better than some heavies in his defense.

>>174115712
So 3? Technically 4, if you count ad mortem. But two of those are only off light parries. So good luck.
V E R S A T I L E

>>174116291
>top lights against an LB
>doesnt use HS
>double lights and gets parried again
>at critical health attempts a parry
yeah, no, you're shit

>>174116162
You attacked from top after being in that guard for ages, he was waiting for it.

You used 2 lights in the same direction, interrupting him on the first, he was waiting for the second.

He did a raw side heavy and when he went to do it again he guessed correctly you would try and parry and feinted into guardbreak.

>>174116298
None of those options are exceptional in any way, virtually everyone has near exact equivalents plus offensive kit.

>>174116298
>Feint into top light or Long Arm is good
everyone can F>top light, LA is heavily punished and too slow to use off a feint.
>Feint into Shove works for me sometimes.
Feint into dodgeable shove then get GB'd with no tech
>Feint into guardbreak.
Anyone can do this.
>Set up combos from a distance and use the strong string ends to bait a response.
Use half your stamina while they just wait for you last hit that can be back dodged/rolled
>He's no worse off on offense then somebody like Kensei who has a good kit, and he's arguably better than some heavies in his defense.
Nah, LB hasnt got shit for unique openers. He'd be a shittier kensei if it weren't for the patch

Man fighting zerkers is like fighting an autistic child with retard strength, just had a dom match against 4 high rep zerkers.

>>174116573
>You attacked from top after being in that guard for ages.
Yeah but how do I guard change and attack at same time? I'ves een people do it, like the parry as well. The guard would say top but then suddenly attack comes from right. Like parry.

>>174116523
Meant for >>174116162
Sorry

>>174116965
>Yeah but how do I guard change and attack at same time?
Dodge light attacks or use HS to catch them.
>I'ves een people do it, like the parry as well. The guard would say top but then suddenly attack comes from right. Like parry.
Zone attacks or soft feints, like raider's dash attack

>>174116641
>>174116881
>character that's not supposed to have a great offense doesn't have as good offense options as the blender that is Warden
>Wow!
>Wow!
>Wow!

>>174117158
>Zone attacks or soft feints
No. I'm pretty sure they were normal attacks not raider stuff, or zone attacks.

>>174116990
Thanks. Y-you too.

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Peacekeeper is the cutest For Honor girl. Prove me wrong.

who to learn next?

raider, beserk or nobushi

leaning towards raider

>>174117229
That's our point. His offense is all fundamentals that everyone has, his kit is all defensive. Therefore his offense is not too strong.

>>174117363

Runs like they shit themselves, can only make out a boob bump, desu without the boob bump you could easily assume they were just manlets that really need to go to the toilet.

>>174117479
You know, except for his 50/50 that he doesn't even need to attack to use.

>>174117610
>cute voice
>probably 16-ish
>cocky from her emotes
>confident lil cutie

>>174117671
Which is off of a block and therefore defensive. And I fully agree that's too strong, the light should be very fast off the block shove but still blockable.

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>tfw bully a zerker just enough in the first round that he started whining and kept targeting me alone for the rest of the match and still died

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>>174117363

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ledges are fun

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>>174117921
>man face
>covered in dirt
>manly arms and hangs
>Disgusting man voice

>>174117363
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF
I CAN'T FUCKING STAND PEACE KEEPERS
THERE IS NO FUCKING COUNTER FOR THEIR FUCKING HORSESHIT YOU ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM WITH THIS FUCKING GAME!

EVERY FUCKING TIME IVE RAGED AT THIS GAME IS BECAUSE OF YOU CACNEROUS LITTLE FUCKING CUNTS. YOU ALL NEED TO FUCKING DIE IN REAL LIFE IM SO FUCKING ANGRY IM NOT FUCKING KIDDING AT ALL GO DRINK BLEACH YOU FUCKING SUB HUMAN PIECES OF FUCKING SHIT

>>174118368
Stop replying to yourself. We can all tell.

>>174118461
fuck you you stupid fucking nigger ill fucking kill you. im so fucking close to actually fucking doxxing these fucking peice of shit i meet online just to fucking harass them in real life im so fucking serious

>>174117859
They've really painted themselves into a corner with this change, i was always hoping they would instead make the long arm a far safer and faster opener, the side heavy is nice but its still a suicidal part of his kit.
That balance guy was talking about how the team is trying to weaken the defensive meta in almost the same breath he talks about the shove.

Well all i know is that im going to abuse the shit out of it almost exclusively agaisnt warden. I just hope they stop adding in 50/50s

>>174117915
>your late ass gb whiff off your parry
>his top heavy off a GB which doesnt work
>his block then opening with a side heavy
>your attempt at LA after a parry
>following a LA with top lights instead of a side heavy

Both of you need bullying

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>>174118368

>absolutely everyone's reaction when they are pk light spammed to death

i agree but without caps and less fucks as i just laugh now.

>>174075810

best idea

>>174086423
Maybe it's because that's the one part of warden I haven't bothered to learn yet, but I feel like removing the cancel to guardbreak really would solve the whole... thing about warden. You can go from the side lights to a gb at the expense of another quarter second, and would give both participants a 50/50 decision.

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>>174118461
Is this how I prove this?

>>174118556
I think it's perfectly fine as a 50/50 from neutral - maybe even make it stronger in that case because it's so easy to punish. Very likely giving away a GB in order to try and get either a single light or a GB is an incredibly lame bargain. I'm really only worried about the shove after a block and MAYBE the shove after a heavy.

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When two casual shitters face off.
I've been playing this game for over 200 hours and still suck

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we all know valk is the best grill tho

>>174118794
Remove shoulder into GB. He should be able to cancel into neutral or a zone at that range instead.

>>174118958
These are my most feared enemies. I can't tell if these are unorthadox mind games or just retarded. Usually takes me about 1-2 rounds to figure it out.

>try playing Orochi for once
>don't just use top light and AoE
>take people by surprise that I'm actually using tools like Hurricane Blast and Riptide Strike
>"wow, I wish all Orochis played like this. It's much more enjoyable than just top light and AoE"
>I'm level 2 with him

>>174118971

looks like a tranny tbqh

>>174112397
>sometimes

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>>174119238
>unorthadox mind games or just retarded.
I definitely and proudly say, I'm both.

Even though i'd 100% lose against anyone top tier, I've ledged my fair share of people. Anyone who can parry lights though just wins against me. I have trouble blocking those most of the time.

>>174118971
No Nobushi.

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>>174118971

Valkyrie probably doesn't do shit when not at war


Nobushi is A+ wife wearing Kimono and making you tear hile you read her your poetry you wrote that after noon as she lies down in your lap

>>174104107
You can shoulder bash as soon as it hits,

>>174119617
Given she's a mythological figure, Valk probably spends her off time getting drunk off her ass and ridden by Thor till morning.

>>174119331
>trying using Warden without vortex
>enemy is a Warden
>endless shoulder bashes

>>174119331
>Pick up warden a while ago
>Don't use vortex or zone to avoid salt, I personally don't enjoy making people angry
>Usually just spam lights since most people can't parry them
>Most people just think I'm pandering because I think they're bad
>They still get mad

I did meet one valk player who was cool about it, although he eventually asked me to start using them so he could practice against it

>>174117363
nah, I'll take nob over that skank.

>>174119331
The best roaches use storm rush/deflect attack/ riptide strike feints in their mixups along with regular feints/gbs/zones

>>174119789
what is their deal anyone

They answer to no one? why does Runa then?

>>174119951
sounds like you prefer knob. Guarantee you Nobushi is a little japanese ladyboy. Their culture fucking hates women

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>>174120470
>Guarantee you Nobushi is a little japanese ladyboy

>>174120295

Expect Runa doesn't

She gave the Jarl shit and then didnt listen to him to attack the monastery

The videos give you insight to heroes character.

>>174120295
For Honor Valkyries are women who fight on the behalf of men who cannot be afforded a glorious death in battle. Essentially, if a Valkyrie takes pity on you, she will fight for YOUR right to enter Valhalla if you cannot do so yourself.

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>>174121275

>tfw for honor has the potential for good lore but ubisoft didnt go DEEPEST LORE

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>>174120670
Runa's synopsis even say she's bullheaded specifically because she's tired of seeing the Warborn get the short end of the stick and demands to see their name exalted with glory. That's why she's impatient: because glory for the Warborn doesn't come to those who wait.

>>174121275
My husband used to be a warlord like you, then an orochi put an arrow in his knee.

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>>174121416

>tfw for honor has the potential for good
>but ubisoft

>>174121978
ubisoft's entire lineup in a nutshell

>>174121536

Reddit is down the hall and to the left.

Are the colors you get when buying an outfit unique to that outfit? I don't see any locked colors that say you need to buy an outfit to unlock

>>174122862
They're exclusive to the character, not the outfit.