/twg/ - Total War General

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V A M P I R E - C H A N

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1st for the Empire

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Bit too early
Also when's 1.5

>>174069691
also praise sigmar

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>722 posts
>copy pasting 4chanx

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WARLORD OF EIGHT PEAKS

>>174064265
>he wants tomb kings to be in the second game so badly that he thinks Old Friend will be tomb kings related as well

Tomb Kings are the pre-order race.

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I'm going to be _________ by a ________!

>>174069808
Why is Skarsnik so unironically so shit as an AI, there's literally not a match where he doesn't get rekked in the first 50 turns.

>>174070196

The AI just isn't kunnin enough.

>>174070196

>doesn't even bother going back to Eight Peaks
>just fucks around burning Wissenland down and getting spanked by Beggar Nohammer

>>174070152
have my boipucci molested

huge barb wired dick

13th for quietly waiting for Eltharion to be in Warhammer 2.

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>>174069691
The CREW gets ready to bully some little bitch boi and end the war

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>>174070386
Blind or Grim?

>>174070674
>Crusading in the chaos wastes
Metal

>>174070674

>Chaos still existing at turn 263

>>174070727
Daith of Wood Elves fills the role of blind swordsman.

>>174070882
I've seen Archie spawn on top of a hero and get stuck in th wastes a few times

>>174070882
Not for long!

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>hit the button for the fire-ball trinket
>Nothing happens
>suddenly the trinket spills over
>wrecks a mortis engine with one "salvo"

>>174070727

Given that there will be lords already from High Elves that carry grudges against Darkies, I wouldn't mind if it was Grim. He'd be quite suited to Megamap then, as he has a beef with greenskins.

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>>174069564

Age of Sigmar fucking when?

LETS MAKE WARHAMMER GREAT AGAIN!

>>174069987
Hope you get it desu, you held up your part of the bargain.

stop being a faggot tho

>>174070952
He's a smith and not a swordsman, though, surely.

>>174071283

(you)

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>>174071283

So we can all agree that Shogun 2 is the best total war, with Warhammer and Rome 1 sharing the number two spot, right?

Great!

What do you guys think about this?

>colossal enemies can spawn and roam around
>those enemies could be giants and arachnoks but 4-6 times as large
>balanced for a fight against a fullstack
>gives items and money on defeat
>will reinforce nearby battles as third party, hostile to all

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HOPE YOU BROUGHT A RAINCOAT FUCKERS

>>174071641
Good mod, would rather not have in the main game.

>>174071641
>Giant randomly spawns as you're trying to lay siege to an enemy hold
>Giant decides to attack the keep rather than you
>You can pay him it x to make him leave afterwards
>If not, it sticks around causing havoc.

>>174071629
>shit maps
>shit sieges
>1-on-1 animations

No, fuck off.

>>174071283
wow what kind of space marine is that?
it kinda looks like the marines from starcraft but they don't have shields or a hammer

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>>174070882
Basically
>Enjoyed slaughtering them in siege battles where level 4 towers would destroy them, so waited for them to come of the wastes again to siege Ostrosk, Kislev or Praag
>Even spent time reviving Kislev in that time
>Chaos never came, fucking elves even colonized Norsca in that time
>Wondered what was wrong
>Went into the wastes and saw Archy and Sivgald just sitting there stuck together idle for the last 50 turns afraid to move


As the crew moved into the wastes, they could hear the screams of "don't hurt me pls" echo from the north...

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>turn 168 of angrund hard campaign
>things are finally going my way after having to fight my way very slowly towards 8 peaks because fucking thorgrim lost the badlands bowl
>have lots of military allies so I can sicc them at the orcs
>suddenly out of the blue welves decide its a perfect time to attack bretonnia
>I'm the only ally of welves and also ally of bretonnia who has several allies

RREEEEEEE WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH TREE-HITLER WHY CAN'T THERE BE A MOMENT OF PEACE WITHOUT THESE FUCKING DISTRACTIONS.

>>174071869
I wouldn't know how they could handle a siege (not being able to pass through a gate due to the size, not being able to climb walls due to being monsters).

I image them just roaming around in raid stance and being a nuisance that way.

>>174071283
After the TWW's 2nd expansion hopefully.

is it just me or is the walls building chain bugged for skarsnik...?

>>174072132
They could probably entirely destroy walls and towers without anyone's help.
There would also be a chance that they turn on you rather than the enemy.

>>174070674

>Having a witch hunter in your army
>having helstorm rocket batteries and not the volley gun

??

>>174072228
>They could probably entirely destroy walls and towers without anyone's help.

That's a pretty good solution, haven't thought of that.

>>174071641
Nah, no thanks. Maybe a fun mod or something but doesn't really fit in to the world. There is simply a good dozen or three things they could do on the list I think.

>>174072232
I would but everytime I tried some fucker immediately went to raid my lands. First it was skarsnik who cheated his way to Karak Norn and Girmhold and while dealing with him the fuckin mutinous gits start sending their full stacks at me.

>>174070674
What happened in Norsca? o_O

>>174071641
Would love this, except
>those enemies could be giants and arachnoks but 4-6 times as large balanced for a fight against a full stack

They should just be regular strength

Bad news, everyone. My super elite crack team of peasants died when their army was wiped out by a Chaos army.

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IMPORTANT /TWG/ SURVEY

1. Number of non-Dwarf/Angrund playthroughs you've done
2. Number of campaigns you've seen Dwarfs colonise Grung Zint (hold near Brettonia/Marienburg)
3. Do you use any "AI colonises more" mods?

Me:
5 playthroughs
0 times, once colonized by Elves though
Yes

>>174071283
I'd play Flesh-Eater Courts.

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>>174072271
*Blocks your path*

>>174071641
Just buff Beastmemes so they dont get completely wiped by turn 20.

>>174072462
LEAFENSRAUM

>>174072651

3
1
No

>>174072747

theres plenty of beasties tribes anon and they do quite well even if they arent the beastmeme

>>174072629
>you abandon them bro, just leave them to waste

That doesn't sound very dwarfish.

>>174072271
I have 4 volley guns with Franz, ergo all 3 of those stacks together have 8 hellstorm including sunmaker, hammer of the witches, 4 volleygun, 4 tanks. Hellstorm is OP vs infantry

Witchers prevent enemy hero shit with bodyguard and watcher, and are decent 1 on 1. I believe sigvald was killed by one without me even paying attention. 3 Witchers passively reduce enemy hero success by -45% in the same province if fully upgraded I think?

>>174072462
I did the spearmen trick to constantly destroy the ports, then out of nowhere argwylion colonized it all, even after I destroyed oak of ages and other elves. Also after I resurrected Kislev they had nothing better to do than to go raze the remaining varg

In my VC playthrough all 4 elves started colonizing norsca and completely captured it too

>>174070727
If they are going to do a Dark Elf v High Elf LP that is NOT Allarielle v Hellebron The Witch and the Bitch or if they do two(unlikely) then they should save the position of "Hates Dark Elves alot" for Altih Anar. Personally I think Eltharion or Imrik are going to be FLC, I doubt we will even see Alith. Though I'd love to see all 3, if I had to choose I'd definitely go with Eltharion with Imrik as a second because Caledor.

>>174072651
7
0, i seen elves colonizing it, tho
Sort of, Rise of the Beastmen probably do this too. I think.

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>>174072712
I loved my hunters by the end game. Some 70% chance of killing enemy heroes through assassination, 1 v 1 gods, -6 chaos corruption, ward save of 20

>>174073021

>abandoning territory because you're too shit to defend it against greenskins

That's literally the most dwarfish thing in the world.

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>>174072712
On side note, I like how Saltzpyre in Vermintide isn't an edgelord (for a Witch Hunter), which is something very tempting and easy to do with them.

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Question for Dawi players: What do you guys use to deal with routers at the end. Or is there no way to kill the fuckers once they route? Gyrocopters or something?

>>174074353
I reassemble my army, giving it time to rest before the cowards return for a second beating.

>>174072110
>playing on Hard
>a moment of peace in Total Warhammer

>>174074353

siege units, quarrlers, and copters yeah.

>>174072110
That's what you get for trying to be everybodies best bum buddy. You should only have one defensive ally, per frontier. Never ally with two neighbors.

>>174073893
My first hunter had a consistent 95% assassination chance, through assigning thugs and rogues to his retinue.
I really need to learn to embed them into armies though.

>>174072651
Beaten the game as various factions 6+ times.
The only time I payed attention to that corner was when I played Skarsnik.
The dwarfs of Grung Zing just sat there the whole campaign, noone attacked them and they didnt attack anyone.

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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!

>>174074727
Well it got me tilea as vassalage for reasons beyond my comprehension.

>>174072651
Dwarves just sit in their mountains like faggots and practically never colonise anything.

I've seen them ignore all the areas north and west of Karaz a Karak countless times.

Zhufbar and Black Mountains somehow seem to have a 'do not go here' tag, just like everything north of the The Vaults.
That is the only place I've seen the AI ever colonise.

>>174071283
>No map
>Just a cloud of bullshit


yeah nah

>>174074353
Mounted Thunderers (Great Weapons) ofcourse!
Courtesy of Radious.

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Goblin Dabbing

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All shall fear the Tomb Kings, be they Manlets, Masochists or Mannlets.

>>174071145
the fuck trinket is that?

Is that some shit only elves get?

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>>174068719
>>174068917
Care to explain how any of those make sense as the "old friend"? The old friend is obviously referencing something either aforementioned in the TWW game or something explicitly mentioned in the lore as an "old friend." The only one who MAYBE fits that bill is Leitdorf being a friend of Karl and Krell being obviously missing from the game.

>>174069018
to your first point, I found an anecdote.
>Revenue £123.5 million. The anual spend average for the players is 300 to 600£. So we have per year 400k to 200k active players. You should add Casual players (around 80£ per year) and old players that they are still playing but they are investing small quantity. That means that per year should be around 800k to 400k (active and casual players) New players or reconverted players can be 100k per year, and the company was created on 1975, and each year games workshop loose 100k players and win the same quantity. So, "total historic players" can be 1.2m to 0.8m.

Granted, not all of these players will have bought TWW, but those statistics are enough to sell Sega or the CA development team on the idea.

To your second point, the proof is in the fact that they made the game AT ALL. No company that large would commit to an idea they thought didn't have legs to support them.

And your third point, there is nothing that would appeal to that audience so they couldn't care what choice gets made. Therefore they aren't even worth bringing up.

>>174069740
Never

Seriously

>>174072110
>168 turns of 50% increased upkeep
you realise you can just ignore the other badlands factions and go straight for 8 peaks right?

You don't have to take every settlement along the way, especially as you can't afford to defend them with the upkeep penalty.

waiting for Ungrim to win badlands bowl is stupid anyway because if a dawi faction takes 8peaks you got yourself a mighty civil war on yer hands.

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>>174072110
No peace, just war!

>>174069740
How did that weird little revolution in the comments turn out?

>>174076661
It's some ring with a bound spell: fireball.
Except that's not how it works, must've glitched out due to some mod or whatever.

>>174074265
He's a zealot, but yeah, not a total edgemeister.

He's actually pretty bro-tier/mentally flexible (adapting to the circumstances of his new companions easily, including the Bright Mage he was supposed to be bringing in).

>>174073142

What's the spearmen trick? Very small stack at sea to constantly raid?

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>SFO dwarfs

>>174076512

>Settra victory conditions: Conquer everyone and everything
>Major penalty to any diplomatic arrangement with a faction that isn't them becoming your vassal or paying you tribute for a deal.

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>>174076305
MOUNTED THUNDEREERSSRSRSRS WHAT!

>>174077779
Yes

1. Spears are the cheapest Empire unit
2. They are way stronger than they should be in autoresolve combat
3. A hero with 15+ spears can go across norsca and autoresolve raid the villages, winning easily against max-level norscan gerisons, then the next turn you raze it after getting around 4-5k income

And if a full stack of varg or skraeling come to recolonise the ruins you can usually disembark and slaughter them as they are stuck after retaking the town and cannot retreat, and also are at half strength from the colonisation

>at war with faction
>accept their "peace treaty"
>they raid me next turn

so should I fight them and take the penalty or just be a bitch and let them raid me?

>>174078462
Raid them back

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>>174074353
DAWI MISSILES

>>174076992
"A fistful of days more"
t. dev like 4 days ago

>>174077697
Apparently someone pointed out it was a dumb repetitive joke "bordering on bullying" or something
The guy who started it said something like "YEA THATS THE POINT, I WAS IRONIC, I WAS TRYING TO SHIT ON THE PEOPLE THAT ASK FOR THE PATCH"

>>174074265
>they STILL haven't fixed the longcoat clipping into his legs
He looks so fucking weird.

>>174079057
>hand has five fingers
>four days have passed
They're lying, it's gonna be more.

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>>174079057
>a fistful of days
Maybe he has big hands

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>>174078975

>tfw you can't in good conscience play any race besides Empire or Dwarfs
I just hate those Chaos and grobi fucking shits so much

>>174079452
What about Brettonia? In games I play where they're the AI they seem to sail north to shit on Norsca pretty frequently.

>>174079452
Play as Beastmen and remove Chaos AND Greenskin

>>174071283
One day anon, one day.

Got an MP Flesheater Courts army set up, lots of ghouls and shit, pretty fun to play.

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>>174071145
>Witch Hunter w/Ruby Ring of Ruin
>Use the ring in battle
>Doesn't work...
>Suddenly, the Witch Hunter's pistol shoots fireballs
By Sigmar!

>>174079452

Gobbos are pure and good, shut your filthy manlet mouth.

>>174076305
Unacceptable!

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not so tough after getting raped

>>174081879
me-ouch

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Time to end these mutinous gits'
Ambushed them when they were coming back out to raid me, with another army on the underway to siege K6P.

>>174081879
Good lord, well done.

>>174069892
There isn't going to be a preorder race you mouthbreathing mongoloid

Can anyone who plays attila give me some advice?

What do you do when you want to capture a city of different religion?

I've been literally razing them and starting from scratch because the penalty bonus is so large.

>>174082463
>implying
They need a preorder incentive.

>>174082692
Nah that seems like a good idea.

>>174082692
does razing even effect religion?

i normally preconvert before wardec, if you can't do that demolish anything in the city that dosen't fit your religion or give public order bonuses (inc. consuming too food), the cash will keep you afloat until you stabilise the frontline

>>174069987
jesus christ how do you get to be this fucking pathetic? do you have no self-awareness at all? if the guy said he would give it to you he either hasnt yet or wont , stop being so fucking annoying for fuck sake

>>174079057
>>174079227
>>174079337

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8P7xpB-P9lpQ2hCbm4tdURFSVU/view

>>174082692
All you're doing is causing immigrant unrest instead. On top of forcing yourself to wait another hundred turns to rebuild what you tore down.

Just capture it and deal with the religious unrest until you can spread your own religion to the province.

>>174074353
Slayers are the only units who can catch routers and they usually have the most kills of any units in my army at the end cos of it.

>>174083098
Is this dolphin porn

Or just the regular version

I'm too much of a coward to download it

>>174083164
Spreading religion takes forever though.

Do you suggest I make religious buildings?

I haven't been too successful at converting

>>174073142
What's the main use for volley guns? I've had some success with them vs calv and chariots but they never seem to do much even using checker formations. I imagine they would be good against dwarves but I don't find myself fightin them often as empire

>>174083362
razing a city doesn't change the religion all it does is cause a surge in immigration which causes extra public disorder

>>174072110
I don't see how you couldn't afford to take 8 Peaks on your own long before this.

>>174083515
But I raze it, and I settle in it, and all the civilians are from my own nation.

>>174083237
Fuck it, I'm gonna download it, what's the worst thing that could happen anyway

>>174083473
They shred anything really but are especially good against armor.
Use the V formation if you cant get them on a high ground.

>>174083707
You discovering that you're really into dolphin porn.

>>174070727
Blind, better have him after the development

>>174083207
I didn't know they could catch up. Thank you!

>>174083473
they are great against Chaos and Dwarf heavy infantry, not so much against cav as they will fire 9 rounds before being able to turn

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>Pistolkorps
>increases charge bonus on Pistoliers and Outriders
Do... these units charge?

>>174083981
No, under no circumstance should you charge pistoliers / outriders (except chasing routing units)

Pretend that skill doesn't exist

>>174081996
that is the most plain army I've ever seen in my life anon, do you not get really fucking bored playing it?

>>174083667
nah, religion sticks around, it doesn't change like that

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>>174082463

Except there will be, they've already said the DLC team has moved onto working on it.

Why are Ungor Raiders so bad?
Why couldnt they give them javelins or something and make them close range high damage skirmishers?

>>174083981
No. There is absolutely no reason why you would ever want to charge your opponent with a cavalry unit. There are absolutely zero applicable scenarios. Don't even THINK about it, kid.

>>174082692
Just need to ship in a priest or two before hand and prioritize a religious building. Can't say I've had a lot of problems.

How did magic work on TT?

Did you just pick a lore and take spells from it or could you mix & match lores and roll for spells on a few different ones?

Just wondering because all 3 revealed factions in the next game have access to every lore and I'm not sure how they're actually gonna deal with that in the current system.

>>174077904
Would have been pretty lopsided in your favour in Vanilla too.

>>174084191
Just seems short on armor piercing. No cannons or thunderers and only one hammer? Those black orcs must be a horrible slog.

>>174084693
I'll be looking into that.

Thanks!

>>174083981
Arty units and weaker archers

>>174084974
If you're lucky you can get a governor or "garrison general" with a trait, wife or item that gives +religion too.

>>174084601
A dedicated missile cavalry unit with no melee weapons that gets routed the instant any ranged infantry look at them funny?

>>174085167
>missile cavalry runs out of missiles

Gee golly gosh I guess this battle is lost because now I have a bunch of units that can't do anything.

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>Old World will remain as is, no settlements of minors removed
>New World on losing some snippets of land

So basically this map but with a fuck ton more settlements on the New World and the Southlands. Pretty fucking neat.

>>174084960
Literally none of the fun units.

No
>miners w/ blasting charges
>no thunderers
>no cannons
>no slayers
the entire army is just made to deploy and never have to manoeuvre anything.

STUFF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek3O0kXDX3k

>>174084736
> how they're actually gonna deal with that in the current system
You will be able to pick wich lore to spend hero levelup points on?

>>174085560
Is it done like that in real life

Are handgunners and thunderers in general better than their crossbow cousins?

>>174070196
I don't know if I've ever seen him get wiped out before Archaon appears.

>>174085242
Does anyone use them a lot anyway? Outriders aren't too bad with the armor piercing but the pistol guys hardly seem worth it.

>>174083707
Everything appears to be in order

This is a patch though right? do I need regular Botet or 1.01?

>>174085840
No, just different.

>>174085924
Fresh install

>>174086226
Mh, ok, it's gonna take some time to download though.

>>174085469
> Old World will remain as is, no settlements of minors removed
source: your ass

>>174086975
It was mentioned in the stream last wednesday. Apparently, I didn't actually see it.

>>174085594
10 skill trees sounds kind of cluttered though

>>174085840
they can't fire over units so not really.

You have to either deploy on a hill, flank with them, or use them against large targets, then they're better in nearly every way. Only take 2-3 though because those conditions aren't easily met.

So who the fuck is the Old Friend anyway

>>174084191

Because I don't have any of the building chains anon since it's legendary so 90% of my money has to go to getting the public order under control and an economy.

>>174084960
It was an ambush, placed my grudgethrowers at the T, quarrlers where their archers would be, and then stretched my melee units on both sides where their orkz would be. Clapped them in melee, archers and grudgethrowers neutralized their range support, while GRODGEBEARER and the hammers fought their heros.

The army is getting some diversity now that I f have t3 ranged/siege plant in mt gunbad. Blood river confed has an armory, which is giving great weapons though I still need to modify their buildings some. Having t3 walls in the ones on the edge of the greenskinz which is limiting the provinces some.

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Knife-ear genocide - best day of my life!

>>174083981

Pistolers are the equites of the WRE in Attila. Utter trash that is squishy and will melt to the enemy archers. BUT, they are your only chargeable unit for 30-40 turns depending on how fast you get t3 stables in your stables area and a gunsmith in Eilhart. Outriders are vastly superior in every way, but pistolers work fine if supported by crossbowmen to take out their ranged units.

Use the pistolers to harass, and then charge units that are routing to end them. Problem is, honest steel is near mandatory since it covers such a wide range of units that you will be using the entire game. Tactician is also good, but is a gamble considering your anvil might crumble before they get to use that ammo.

>>174083098
>>174085924
What? What is it?

>>174083707
Keep us posted anon

>>174088081
stop fucking asking, we'll see when they let us

>>174085790
I've seen a few traditional bow exhibitions at Japanese castles during my time there where they use that sort of technique, usually with one of those big Yumi bows. It's really impressive how good they are. Even saw a Yabusame exhibition once. Probably the most impressive show of archery skill I've seen live.

>>174087710
>>174085840

>Long ranged units = Anti archer unit
>Gunners = Anti large units layered behind your line
>Gunners have a niche flanking use if there are no larges

For that reason, bringing more than two gunners is really a liability because by the time they get around to broadside the back of the enemy line the fight should be over. 4 crossbow+2 gunners+Arty is a great comp for your ranged. Empire has outriders that preform the flanking gunners role anyways.

>>174088642
>>174088656
It seem like it IS the update, but the problem is that I don't have regulat botet, so I have to download it and it's gonna take several hours.

>>174085469
thats really gay, they could have pretty much halfed norsca to include more of the new world and nothing of value would be lost

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>tfw you are one of the few inteligent gamers out there who comments on every CA video or the steam review page that the DLC/Expansion should have been in the base game

>>174089107
HOLY SHIT
If it really is then bless whoever uploaded it
Please great Sigmar let this be true

>>174085469
Watch your language!

>>174089107
>>174089626
The fuck is botet? Some kinda fingerbox-tier meme?

>>174089850
Beginning of the end times, a warhammer mod for Medieval 2 Kingdoms

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>>174089554
>tfw make an extremely elaborate and well thought out critical review on steam of the latest Total War game, including scathing remarks about the loathsome corporatism CA has recently delved in to
>have over three thousand hours in the game so you know I'm right
>brainlets on /twg/ attack me for it

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Rate my carpet /twg/.

Feels bad man, I usually play GS, but I decided to do a Clan Angrund campaign and had to fend off Grimgor and Azhag both with full stacks. It's like killing my pets ;_;

>>174089910
>it's fucking nothing
meh

>>174090127
>ghost dad

Artillery feels like cheating. No matter what you force the enemy into charging at you like a bunch of retards.

>>174090474
Hey, they can choose to sit there and soak up the damage if they really want to stay on the defensive.

Or better still, bring your own arti for counter battery.

>>174090458
That's the runesmith. He ended up with his health bar not visible and 135 kills. Belegar had 335, Grimgor himself included. His defeat was what finally made the greenskins mass rout.

Hey guys,

When I hold control and click my units, the game slows down.

Does anyone know why or how I can fix this?

>>174090269
?

>>174090598
My mistake. It's been a very long time since I've mustared and thronged.

>>174090797
Understandable mistake, they all look like neon lights from far away. I took out the engineer and the two thanes from Belegar's army when I conquered K8K to add them to new armies now that I can afford them.

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>historical accuracy

The cavalry units are called "Graal Knights" by the way

>>174088218
is that with any mods installed?

Also
>not taking vigor reduction as chaos
that looks like a fucking scrub tier archaeon build

>>174091069
Huh

By they way, wasn't there a warhammer mod for Rome 1?

>>174090127
not the squigs ._.

>>174090474
You mean against the AI?

It's only stupid when the AI has reinforcing armies because they just charge straight for you instead of waiting for their other dudes to catch up.

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Why can't the botet torrent have more seeds

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WE

>>174092167
DLC WHEN

>>174092224
>dies a miserable failure
>dies defending a miserable failure
>dies folding like a deck of cards
>dies accomplishing the will of their gods

sure showed them

>>174092002
You mean the link posted ITT?
Is download speed really that low? How long is it taking?

>>174092224
This is correct

>>174092545
>End Times
Uhh lad what the fuck are you doing?

>>174092589
No no, I mean the regular botet torrent

ALSO THE MIRRORS IN THE MODDB PAGE ARE MUCH FASTER THAN THE REGULAR ONE, NOW IT WILL ONLY TAKE 30 MINUTES

>>174092532
Wurzag's stack should always be saavage orcs.

Except when you get him through confed, then his stats somehow make savage orcs more expensive becasue reasons.

>>174092728
Less retarded than Storm of Chaos, the elf shit was really dumb though

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>>174092786
Oh yes sorry
I'm just anxious to see if based anon really uploaded 1.5

>>174092891
but MUH EBIN HEADBUTT!!! >:(

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>>174092545
>NO I'M NOT A FAILURE, GAMES WORKSHOP AND GAV THORPE SAYS I'M THE BEST
>I KILLED AN ENTIRE IMPERIAL REGIMENT ALL BY MYSELF BECAUSE I'M THE CHOSEN OF THE REALLY COOL TOTALLY AWESOME DARK GODS WHO I ALSO HATE
>I HAVE ARTIFACTS OF INVINCIBILITY AND A SWORD WITH 100000000000 ATTACK POWER THAT I GOT BY DEFEATING GHOST LORDS AND GREATER DEMONS WITH MY BARE HANDS
>I'M REALLY COOL AND COLLECTED AND A MASTER TACTICIAN AND I GET ALL THE GIRLS

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>>174093220
I'm so glad all that shit was retconned out of existence

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>>174093325
Reminder the worst Chaosfags are those in GW's office

>>174093183
If I remember correctly, it can only be the default non fanatics Night Goblins
But really, save yourself some pain, get the Instant Quest Battles mod so you don't have to do these boneheaded preconditions crap.

>>174076512
>over seven thousand chariots
SIGMAR FORBIDS THIS

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>>174093325
>make the quintessential grimdark setting
>expect the noble good guys to win

if not chaos or rats, would have been orcs eventually WAAAGGH'ing everything into the ground

then WAAAAAGGGGH'ing themselves ad infinitum

>>174093724
>mad NPCfactionfag

Orcs?

>tfw you love all the factions and enjoy playing all of them
>tfw game has hundreds of hours of content without even buying any dlc
>tfw next game will probably be exactly the same and I'll never get bored again
feels nice

>>174092872
Not that guy but I recommend the mod that takes that out. It just makes no sense to get a LL whose prefered tropes who he can buff to absurd levels become way more expensive.

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>>174093991

>>174093940

dead fish

>>174093967
What?

>>174093724
I've never met anyone who liked Chaos the most

>>174094197
If you get mad at the idea of chaos winning, which was foreshadowed at least 15 years ago, you most probably follow some other less relevant faction

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>still no playable Norsca

>>174094334
Would be interesting if Chaos campaign started with you as a Norscan lord, then you gain the favour of De Godz.

>>174094305
Weren't chaos warriors the most played faction

>>174093941
It's not about who wins, it's the execution.
The End Times is such a fucking mess I can't blame anyone for pretending it never happened.

so how do I win battles with big armies?

I tried using a divide and conquer tactic so I split my army in two and I tried to flank my opponent's big army.

thing is he blitzed one of my armies and my second one couldn't do shit

>>174093940
Death with a overwhelming amount of perfume

>>174094331
Nah more like the idea that anyone wins means the setting ceases to exist.
Although I admit I would have liked it if Order won, mostly because I don't like grimdark

>>174094532
Which faction are you playing as?

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The Empire endures!

>>174094750
orcs and goblins

game is total war warhammer

>>174094469
GW wanted the world to end since the start since it is a grimdark setting which required a grimdark ending, otherwise it would have just been like every other fantasy setting where the knight in shining armor rides off in the sunset.

Clearly expected it with SoC which went to shit so fast and so hard it completely fucked the story to the point they had to get rid of it.

Rushed it out themselves ignoring many characters and really forcing the """united elves""" thing.

In the end everyone dies because our own emotions and actions are our own undoing.

>>174094729
again its THE grimdark setting, the fuck did you expect?

>>174094863
One of these days I'm gonna play Fate

It will be the first non-hentai VN I play

40k - Extremely serious grimdarkness
WHFB - a pleasing wholesome balance of whimsical comedy and earthy grit

>>174094469
We all know it's not about the execution either. It's the usual kneejerk reaction children have when you take their toy away, even when they didn't care all that much about it before that anyway.

I can bet anything I have that most of the ones still bitter about the whole thing don't even play or didn't even use to.

>>174095146
>40k - Extremely serious
I don't know how to tell you this, so I'll be blunt:
You need to get your autism treated ASAP.

>>174095146
>40k - Extremely serious grimdarkness

Did you stop reading stuff in 5th ed or something?

>>174094915
>GW wanted the world to end since the start since it is a grimdark setting which required a grimdark ending
Honestly? It didn't need to end because it's a setting for stories, not a story itself.
Geedubs should have invested more in video games instead of being so stingy with their IP until it imploded. Imagine all the shit we could have by now instead of just this, Mark of Chaos and Vermintide.

Alright, I'm unzipping the regular botet installation

After I install that I'll have to unzip the update, scan it with malwarebytes and if everything is good I'll install it, and the I'll apply the 4gb patch and play.

>>174095316
>>174095338
You are both formally invited to provide a counterpoint. Name one (1) un-serious thing in 40k.

>>174095316
>>174095338
Not him but when does 40k not take itself seriously? I have never seen anything like idk, space marines making jokes or anything like that

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>>174095343
Gee anon, what time in WHFB is Vermintide set in? :thinking:

A story can end and you can still use the setting, look at any other fantasy setting. The fact WHFB ended is unique, there is a conclusion instead of a flavorless dragging on forever.

>>174095489
the entire ork race

>>174095489
The orks

>>174091203
No mods, and I made Archeon fully yellow and when I use him with two casters they can rack up to 500+ kills between them so I like it.

>>174095316
>>174095338
Other than Orkz (which haven't been relevant in either fluff nor crunch in years), when doesn't official 40k media take itself seriously?

>>174095489
Squats are back
Three different organizations blamed each other for the fuck up of saying the squats were squatted
A necron lord goes around trolling inquisitors with letters that suck them in a pocket dimension after they read it, and in general trolling everyone

>>174095613
Orkmind

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This 19 Treemen slap your girlfriends ass with 1090 weapon damage each, what do you do?

>>174095683
>squats are back
What?

Seriously?

>>174095574
>I have never seen anything like idk, space marines making jokes

Look better. ragnar blackmane had a couple of main characters that were basically comic relief. The more recently published deathwatch series about talon squad has mad banter between an imperial fist and a raven guard and a buttmad ultramarine that can't handle the bantz

>>174095678
>relevant

Define relevant, because they're the usual threat you can no longer remove, armageddon is still hot, thraka is still around and there's been a major series about them with the beast

>>174095764
I'm taking the hobbits to Isengard!

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>>174092891
I was a big elf fan since 6th edition. I loved elves in the End Times.

>>174095853
Been a thing since 6th ed, they're no longer squatted. No models yet but after admech and genestealer cults anything could happen with the new GW

>>174095489
orks as a whole
all of gorkamorka
space wolves being literaly vikings in spess
all the fluff from before ca. 2003

>>174095351
You don't need 1.01. Just install the new version

>>174076512
>the war of the hammer
>dorfs and kangz spend decades fighting over whose shit it is

kek

>>174096051
I never said I was gonna install 1.01

>>174096176
The "update" is the whole thing, you need no other version

>>174094867
Ah, haven't tried it with them yet sorry
I do it often with Beastmen though. It's a fun strat - it ends up being a sort of hook & sinker
The Hook is the small detachment of low quality units - ideally spears and archers - who move up on a flank and start to harass the end of the enemy line
The Sinker sits back and reacts according to what the Hook draws in - e.g. sending anti-large over to assist if enemy cav charges in, sweeping into full engagement if it looks good
Greenskins, they have a pretty diverse roster, though a lot of the units seem to be quite dinky
I'm interesting in what other anons have to say about split army tactics.

>>174095764
is that much weapon damage even useful on anything other than other monsters & lords?

Don't really know how weapon damage actually works when monsters have huge amounts.

>>174096257
Hold up then

I must have misread this post >>174086226

So that file is the only one I need? Nothing else?

>>174093894
>Puny mortals think nobody can outdo Norsca in chariot spam
>Chariots: The faction hasn't even been added yet
BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION

>>174095892
My friend told me GW are really spastic about how they treat Orkz in the 40k setting. Is this true or false? Thank you for you're time.

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>>174096357
I don't think so, maybe I'm wrong but it seemed that no one stood up after their swoops and the model count of the enemy went down extremely fast.

They do however delete lords,Minotaurs and cygors hilariously fast.

>>174096460
You'll still need the 4gb patch, nothing else though

>>174095954
-gard, -gard, -g-gard, -gard

>>174096635
Damn, I wasted a lot of time, thanks for telling me.

>>174072687

>wanting to play mutated cannibals

No updated Vampires no care

>>174096732
ANON I NEED TO KNOW IF ITS 1.5 BEFORE I GO TO BED

>when you missclick on the campaign map but you can't load your auto-save because the enemy attacked you and you kicked their arse and don't want to replay the battle
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Now Azhag gets away

>>174096567
That's the Shadow Tilean sea, property of Shadow Tilea.

Would it be possible to make a Strigoi faction with the current assets in the game?

>>174096776
Best fluff

>>174096784
I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW DAMMIT

>>174096567
That should be the Sour Sea. I guess they got the labels mixed up and no one noticed because you have to mouse over it to see.

The other day I saw a terrain mouseover for 'mud (WIP)', but I couldn't replicate it. Probably the same deal.

>>174096546
Gameplay-wise they're not that great competitively, but then you have to ask yourself why would you play orks to begin with. It's not even some kind of conspiracy, keep in mind that fucking space marines have rarely been better than average.

Fluff-wise, as usual they can wreck some shit and some other times they "lose", meaning they can get ultimately stopped, and even then it results in a bloody stalemate that make the orks happy either way. The thing you have to get when looking at ork fluff is that, like nids, them being stopped in the end doesn't magically remove all the damage they've done before that.

>>174096971
OK THANKS YOU'RE A BRO

>>174096784
don't you trust me?

>>174071283
What's scary is all of you people responding to this enthusiastically

>>174096975
Ah thanks!

Why the hell is this file taking so long to unzip, and why did aero just crash, and why is my PC making weird noises

>>174097079
Well to be fair I don't know you.
Also do those links stay up for long? If it is 1.5 I won't be able to download it until a few days from now

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>when wind of death hits just right

>>174071283
As someone who knows the bare minimum of Fantasy, can someone tell me what's wrong with Age of Sigmar without mentioning the End Times or Warhammer Fantasy?

>>174083974
Thanks, I think a lot of it might have to do with terrain as well, never seem to get them with good high ground. And as for calvary meant skirmish calvary my bad, their large profile and lacking AI seems to make them pretty good targets for the volley gun especially if you have well guarded flanks, they just kind of sit there

>>174097352
It's a new setting with a different tone, so it's less fleshed out and requires some getting used to. It was very tongue in cheek with its rules when it came out, so competitive players didn't like that, but apparently they're fixing it

>>174097352
SIGMARINES

>>174092891
>better than storm of chaos
could you have set the bar any lower

>>174097179
Anon are you still alive or did your pc explode?

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>>174096941
Yeah.

The 6th edition appendix list has Ghouls as core units as well as limited numbers of Bat Swarms, 'Charnel Guard' (Ghouls with better stats) and Strigany.
Since that edition, Crypt Horrors, Varghulfs, Vargheists and the like have been added, which all fit nicely.

The only unit that would need some ingenuity is Strigany, but if you're talking about modding, I'm sure some of the Free Company parts would fit the bill.

>>174085902
Pistols have the 360 degree firing arc and fire quickly, okay for orcs and beastmen but in general the empire has units that do their job better and long run the 360 firing arc doesn't make up for their short comings vs other units

>>174097329
Sigmar preserve us

>>174098012
Need to record that replay because it looks absolutely amazing.

>>174097517
>>174097542
>>174097352
It's a giant marketing scheme to copyright their races so they can be a giant shitter company. Nothing more, nothing less.

Fantasy was losing popularity, 40k was gaining(somewhat, if not just maintaining) popularity, so their bright idea was name the races something their lawyers could shit on people for using, and then make the setting 40k-lite

What's kind of pathetic about it is I'm pretty sure it's managed to become more popular than fantasy was by the end because it's new.

I'm into 40k and Fantasy lore and I couldn't even stomach how retarded the setting is, so take that for what it's worth I guess.

GORKAMORKA ORRUKS FYRE SLAYERS the list goes on

>>174097929
I tried to unzip it and it just fucking crashed

I'll try again

>>174090642
Can anyone help me with this?

>>174097352
It has an ''''art style'''' and '''aesthetic''' that look like the more stupid parts of 40k were smashed into diablo3 and world of warcraft.

Beyond that it is a simplistic skirmishing TT game that fails to have complexity like GW's own necromunda, gorkamorka or mordheim had or others (like infinity) still have
It also fails to have larger unit combat like WH40k has

Also, you can't discuss the background and '''lore''' without mentioning WHFB. Which is probably a good thing becuase it is completely fucking retarded even by warhammer standards.

Anyone else feel like Thorgrim should buff your army more?

I don't really see any reason to take him over a rune lord, but on TT his buffs were way stronger than a runelords shit.

>>174098262
>GORKAMORKA ORRUKS FYRE SLAYERS the list goes on
So the names are dumb but the setting itself is kinda good. At least it's getting better and better with each faction and bits of fluff. It's not 'muh Warhammer' but it's good on it's own.

>>174098748
Weirdly, his best buff only hits once he's below 50% leadership - it's not a bad buff by any means, but it still feels really situational.

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>tfw going to bed before knowing if that was really 1.5 or not

>>174099312
The download will still be there, waiting for you

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>>174096980

Reminder that Orks are the only faction that can actually 'win'.

on one hand I think GW was going to let orks die on the vine because they weren't grimderp enough and actually fun. Otoh if 40k is going to be Sigmar'd that seems counterintuitive

>>174098857
Even taking into account the fact that the setting has only existed for a short time, it just doesn't have the grounding that Warhammer did.

Warhammer has things that aren't war. There are towns and villages, civilian politics, there's folklore and holidays and calendars.
Age of Sigmar doesn't. Or at least the existence of such is mentioned only in an off-hand way only to justify a specific epic battle. It's all paper-thin and will remain that way until they abandon their policy of keeping the details and geography of the world ephemeral and free-floating.

There's other problems too, but that's one of my main ones.

>>174097352
A critical part of an interesting setting is having well defined constraints and borders (both of the real type and the metaphorical type for the discontinuities between entities). Age of Sigmar is one of those "haha, the constraints are OFF now! Anything can happen! Waow!"
Another way I'd put it, from a different perspective, is that WHFB had interesting stuff at every level of significance, from the most basic "what's peasant life like" to "why this retard wants to end the world". AoS is "waow it's nothing but battles for the FATE of this PLANE of EXISTENCE, ALSO there are other PLANES OF EXISTENCE, additionally we are all dancing to the pleasure of the CHAOS GODZ"
Finally, all the official Age of Sigmar artpieces look like shit. Completely unremarkable cookie-cutter shit.

>>174099427
40k is not getting Sigmar'd any time soon tho. It makes too much money, unlike WHFB

>>174098857

>but the setting itself is kinda good

Trash tier bait lad. Even most AoS fanboys think the 'realms' is a retarded knock off

>>174098857
>but the setting itself is kinda good
Well yeah, that's the problem. It's not.
It's just fucking stupid without having the excuse of being Warhammer.

Warhammer, both 40k and Fantasy, were always the setting that just had all the ideas and concepts ('tropes' in modern speech) from all other settings, and turned them up to 11.

With AoS, they just dropped Warhammer and tried to keep the parts that only worked when they were not serious.

>>174099312
I'll tell you in about 10-25 minutes

>>174099557
Speaking of setting remixes, what's the deal with that 30k thing?

>>174098857
>So the names are dumb but the setting itself is kinda good. At least it's getting better and better with each faction and bits of fluff. It's not 'muh Warhammer' but it's good on it's own.

The setting isn't good, as stated it's 40k-LITE complete with ghetto 40k rules, the names ARE dumb, it might be getting better I wouldn't actually know but I'm willing to believe that because it can't go anywhere but up

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What the fuck was his problem?

>>174099745
Horus Heresy? Who the fuck knows, not like they're gonna move that plot forward any time soon, either.

Any tips for playing as Danes in Attila? Even cheese tips.

>>174099745
It's the past of 40k, the period of time where the Emperor led the Great Crusade, and where half his Legions went over to Chaos.

>>174099582
No they not. Go visit AoS general on /tg/

>>174099557
40k currently has Primarchs returning.

That is "MUH END TIMES" in the making.

I'm not going to act like this is exactly how it will play out, but it's going to be something similar to :

>Primarchs start coming back
>They realize the Emperor is gone for good
>They all have different ideas about how to unfuck the Imperium
>Some of them think the Imperial Cult is useful for this
>Some of them think the Imperium should be rebuilt in its original image
>Daemon Prince Primarchs and their Chaos Daddies realize all their brothers are returning to the Imperium
>Random story bullshit happens
>Primarchs that didn't like the cult finally come around and realize they have to create an Emperor-Chaos God to fight muh daemons
>God-Emperorism pushed harder
>Emperor returns as Chaos God
>Rewrites the galaxy ala Age of Sigmar style
>GW releases Age of Muh Emperor

You heard it here first

>>174074265
Why do I love Saltzpyre so much?

>>174100204

>no they not

Ahhhh. It's just the slav shit poster

Nothing to see here lads

>>174100664
They also specifically said that Girlyman returning isn't the start of a new End Times.

They're gonna shake things up a bit, and then stop developing the story past a certain point for the next 20 years again.

>>174099798
Pride. It's an inherent problem with elf fucking shits

>>174100664
GW would be fucking retarded to kill off 40k, it shits money.
Fantasy was not generating enough shekels, which is why they shut it down.

They quite efficiently killed it, by two or three consecutive editions that were trash.

>>174100664
Oh also the Eldar Spirit Stones reach critical mass when Chaos Boys & Crew go full invasion which wrecks their population and their magic space elf spirit energy dumps into Chaos Emperor who then fulfills their prophecy while also getting lots of free magic space power and then elves and humans live happily ever after in the new universe

>>174098941
book of grudges is pretty good as well desu, but only getting it after level 23 kind of sucks. Should really be his first item. Also the radius for the book of grudges buff should really be map-wide since on TT it was a buff that effect your whole army.

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Just got Warhammer, going vanilla for now.

Which DLC would you guys recommend getting first?

>>174102068
Blood.

>>174098857
Please kill yourself. Your taste us unironically shit and you shouldn't be telling anyone what is "good" "kinda good" "bad" or "shit".

>>174102068
Remember to "activate" all the FLCs by doing the add to game thing or whatever it is. Maybe it does it automatically now?

>>174102210
bump, THIS. The flc is great, they really did put effort in.

>>174093818
>Yes have some t4 gyrocopters in your army for this level 8 quest
>yes spend 20 turns with your agent to find krak drak

>>174095316
40k takes itself extremely seriously nowadays

>>174102210
>>174102289
Sorry, what do you mean when you say FLC?

>>174102068

One of the X & Y for the two factions you are most interested in playing.

>>174102473
Free DLC, go to the store page and add all of the DLC that is free

There's a full Brettonia pack and a bunch of lords and magic.

>>174102470
>spend all that time, money, and effort to make a space marine
>some elite guardsmen can cut him half with his laser

>>174102297
Some of that shit is extremely annoying.

>>174100776
because HOLY SIGMAR BLESSED THIS RAVAGED BODY

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>>174102601
Thanks, will do. Would you recommend getting the blood DLC first if at all like that other guy suggested to me?

>>174102518
>still no regiments of renown for bestmemes, kaos, wheat smellves
wow just end my lyfe any time feminine brother of mine

>>174102824

AoR are bullshit anyways, since you can just dismiss them and buy the unit back if you need it to replenish. It makes those factions with them, better than others because they have a instant pool of troops they can recruit.

SFO is really fun, i was hesitant at first since most mods are pure autism but this is fun.

Makes Gelt really fun to play as increased magic pool is so good, and bigger garrisons to fight against makes battles more fun.

>>174102820
Get the blood if you like blood effects I guess, it's okay. Not fond of it being paid
Otherwise, play all of the factions that interest you and then you can pick up the lords packs for them to enhance your experience further

>>174102068
Obligatory tier
>Blood and all FLC
If you like the factions
>Beastmemes and Elves
First play a bit of each of their factions and then decide if you liked them enough
>Grim and Grave, King and Warlord
If you have already played everything else and can't get enough Warhamms
>Chaos Warriors