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Remember when this was the worst we had to put up with Edition

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VOTE edition
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20695547/join-us-for-the-hearthstone-collegiate-national-championship-4-13-2017

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Tournament is set for the next two weekends, NA first followed by EU

Old Thread
>>173976353
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>see ben brode dev recruitment video
>think "I could do that"
>spend the last week making a 185 card homebrew expansion/adventure that introduces a new death knight class
>send it to blizzard with a job application
>rejected within an hour and a half
lol

Well, here it is: "Arthas: Rags to Liches".

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pBC83cWw1n-v0FM7oedudYvCSaPYmjjC3GfcJ5R_9Os/edit?usp=sharing

Rip it to shreds, lads. Preferably not just "this is overtuned", I didn't put much effort into nailing the exact balance, but point out what's gamebreaking and what's insultingly useless. Also tell me what you think of the adventure premise/writing.
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Why is it every time I find a viable deck, I realize it's not fun?
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Why do people click the menu instead of just Esc + Concede?
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>play for 5 hours
>move from rank 5 to rank 4 to rank 5
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>>174020319
Because most people only play this game with one hand.
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>>174020307
No offense but it could be the case of scrub mentality
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>>174020276
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>>174020307
Because netdecking is only fun to sociopaths.
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>play against quest warrior
>play around his brawl
>dump my hand after he plays the first brawl (he had 3 cards in hand)
>he top decks the second brawl
Fuck this deck.
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>>174020460
None taken, I know I'm a shitter.
But what do you mean?
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what's the best midrange pally list /hsg/

Is Elemental better than normal midrange?
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>>174020276
>free adventure
that's why you got rejected
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>>174020559
Some people can't enjoy thing which they perceive as strong or viable because of they think everything strong is dishonest or not fair or because they enjoy to be underdogs clawing for better spot. Revulsion to good things regardless of their nature is one sympthom of scrub disorder.
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>>174020460
Don't see how that would be scrub mentality. Scrub mentality is using a made up "honor code," like refusing to play net decks because it would be 'dishonorable' as opposed to not enjoying certain decks.
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>>174020129
> Want to have fun on ranked with under/never used cards
> Playing Demented Frostcaller because I like this card
> Playing Yogg-Memelord again
> Meme hard a murloc shaman with Yogg from 1hp Icebloc to 9hp + board clear and massive draw + freeze half of his board + tons of board clear
> Win
> It's a handbuff pally
> FEELING CHILLY?
> Freeze everything multiple turns
> F U N A N D I N T E R A C T I V E
> Win
> It's a midrange hunter
> FEELING CHILLY?
> counterspell hunter marks
> Freeze the world while spamming spells and buffing mana wyrm
> Win
> It's a fucking pirate warrior
> Lose
> It's a taunt warrior
> He dirty rat my yogg
> Lose

Fuck you Garrosh. I had fun until you came.
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>>174020735
It's hard to say, there are so many. Elemental, with lots of murlocs, with a few murlocs but curator..
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>>174020832
I mean kinda, but its more like I actually enjoy intuitive decks that have a strange synergy which require good draw like OTK mana addict priest or exodia mage.
Tempo mage was also fun.
But this mid range hunter deck just feels like I'm spitting out whatever I happen to have in my hand with no rhyme or reason other than going face.
It just doesn't feel like it takes any forethought.
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>>174020319
why the fuck would your hand be on esp and not on your dick/beer ect.
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>>174020535
that was objectively the right play in 60% of the times you would have won right there and then, you got the 40% chance where you didnt. All related to how many cards were in his deck, you can do the precise math if you want.
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>beat a quest mage after 4 ice blocks and my board being frozen from turn 5 on

this expansion has a lot of lame shit
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>>174020735
The consensus I'm seeing is that Murlocs are the better early game package. Gentle Megasaur also enables Curator for you, and that's pretty sweet.

I've found handbuff elementals not proactive enough in the early turns to pressure Quest Rogue and Freezemage. The handbuffs also have anti-synergy with Tarim who prefers going wide with weenies instead of playing big guy after big guy.
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>>174021427
>all related to how many cards were in his deck, you can do the precise math if you want
yeah but it's fucking 60/40, it's likely MUCH closer to 90/10
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Can I outmeme the mage?
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>>174021664
You have petals and ya boi toni, if you lose this I fear you're either retarded or extremely unlucky.
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>>174021658
*not 60/40
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What rank do I have to be to start having fun?
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>>174021919
Tried midrange hunter, didn't really enjoy it that much. I didn't like how it ran out of steam so quickly. A lot of the aggro decks ive been playing had more steam than midrange.

Maybe I am doing something wrong.
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>>174022046
hunter doesn't have steam at all. That''s the thing, hunter has the shittiest card draw. Either you topdeck your way to victory or lose.
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>freeze mage is better than quest mage
how long till they remove alexstrasza to promote their failed gimmick?
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>>174021032
That'll learn you for having fun, nerd.
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Is there a way to beat quest warrior without spending 5k+ dust or having to play a deck that has an awful matchup to aggro variants? This meta is too rock paper scissors.
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>>174021658
I told you i didnt have precise number retard. Just the theory. It doesnt matter what the number was besides like if it was the second last card in the other guys deck but i'm going to assume it wasnt.
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>>174020129
Bad news, gonna have to push the tournament back a week. I really need the money from next weekend and can't live with myself if I give it up.

Sign-up's still good to go for a while though, so hopefully you guys can have fun with your memes.
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>>174023034
>being this poor

don't think anybody minds desu
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Got to level like idk, 7 or 8 or some shit in WoW (trying to get Liadrin)

Holy fucking shit how did anyone get addicted to this shitty fucking game? I'm so goddamn bored I just want it to end. They make you walk to goddamn far just fucking kill me famalam.
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>>174021919

20, 15, 10 or 5.

You can do whatever you want with no downsides there.
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>>174022148
How do you play freeze mage with no ice lance?
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>>174020307
Winning is fun you dumb shit. If you're winning you're having fun!
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>>174023346
I felt the same way man. jesus christ it was horrible. Like walk 15 mins to talk to some cuck.
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>>174023415
This is actually pretty correct
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>>174023382
you just do
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>>174023346
Most people who play it are people who started playing it much earlier and now are victims of the sunk-cost fallacy. They've spent so much time and or money on it they can't quit.

Back in 2004 when it came out the game was amazing. It sucks now though.
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>>174023346
DESU the early game has always been shit, even more so in vanilla, it was raiding and my guild that hooked me for an entire 7 years, no ragrets.
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>>174023346
It's about time investment. People started years ago, when they were in high school, etc. Back then it was a huge time sink and they built up a lot of achievements and special items for their characters they've invested so much into. It's not hard to fall into a cycle of addiction when you feel compelled to further improve your characters. It's not really a game as much as a reward simulator.
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>>174023415
>>174023468
Time to start printing those "you win the game" cards.
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>>174023663
Oh, I hope Hearthstone will never suffer the same fate as WoW TCG.
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>>174023793
Daily Reminder: "Wining is fun" has never exited the lips of a non-sociopath.
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>spent the last of my gold on 10 packs
>last pack hits the pity timer
>time to start saving for the next expac

one last time boys
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>>174024065
ORK KUEST.
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>>174024065
An golden Ultrasaur with the border lighting screwed up.
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>>174024059
Reminder: socio-path is meme word used by pseudoscience frauds
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>>174024059
MtG designers classify their player demographics into three groups according to how they have fun in the game and they they want out of it.

Timmy wants to cast big minions and cast crazy spells.

Johnny wants to show off and play with style by creating interesting decks.

Spike wants to win.
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>>174024212
Do you like psychopaths more?
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>>174024065
inb4 mage quest
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>>174024065
Funkeeper Tarim
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>>174024129
>>174024164

just this ugly guy. another 400 dust lego
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>>174022046
i got to legend with midrange hunter. you have to curve really good on the first 3 turns or you just get outvalued and lose.
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>>174024574
I've tried so many variants of midrange hunter. Did you run Golakka or bows?
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>>174024212
No, it just means you lack a conscience. A common malady among young white men.

>>174024263
Spikes have always been cancer. They single-handedly killed Magic. Also, there are more than three now.

>>174024305
I WAS RIGHT!
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>>174024672
you should run 2 crabs just to secure your win against pirate warrior. that shit swings to your favor really well. plus it expands your 2 drop slots, Bow is really good for going face against quest rogue or mage variants.
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>>174024059
winning is fun. nobody like getting shit on.
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gib cheap way to play midrange hunter
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>>174023347
Wait I just made it to 15 for the first time, am I now unable to fall below 15?
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>>174024921
Alright, let's actually examine this fucking retarded platitude. Why have cards at all? Why not just have little sprites that tell you "You win!" when you click on them? It can't be skill you're worried about, because this game doesn't require it. You don't care about lore, you don't care about immersion. You don't care about anything but winning. So why bother with any game? Why make them at all? Why not just print a bunch of win buttons you can click and orgasm to all day?
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>hit rank 15 in under an hour
>only play pirate warrior and can't get higher
I know I'm bad but I didn't think I used to be this bad
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this card may do something
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>>174025086

Why do you need a certain set of pixels to do the thing you want to do rather than a different set of pixels?

Why anything?

Why do we exist?

Fuck off faggot. You hate winning because you're a self-loathing fuckhead that deep down thinks, or most likely knows, you don't deserve to win at anything. You intentionally play shit decks because you want that as a safety net excuse for your own shortcomings.

Win.

Get good.

Or get the fuck out.
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>>174024959
Don't play it. It sucks anyway

Midrange hunter isn't expensive though...
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>>174025086
Winning is fun but we don't have fun only through winning. Git gud, scrub.
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>>174025086
Because winning while someone else is losing feels good, anon. It's how human nature works and it's a hormone releasing feel-good moment because it helps our confidence and helps make you more stronk/alpha/desirable.

If you don't know this I'll assume that you aren't really good at anything in life and just loathe in your free time.
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>>174025086
so you enjoy being a loser?
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>>174024969
This season. You'll be set back to 20 at the beginning of next.
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>>174025321
wow, instantly
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>>174025452
>we don't have fun only through winning
So in other words, it's not just about winning. How about that?

>>174025454
>Because winning while someone else is losing feels good, anon
This is called sociopathy.

>It's how human nature works
No, it's how sociopathy works. It just so happens most men are sociopaths, so they think sociopathy is acceptable.

>>174025476
Doesn't bother me if I enjoyed myself.
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>>174025345
I don't have rat pack and every time I try to netdeck I see rat pack
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>>174025578
Whatever you say, Canadian scrub
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>>174025704
rat pack is pretty shit desu, its only good with some kind of damage buff
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>>174025978
tell me how to build midrange hunter please i just started playing a few days ago
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>hear that Pirate Warrior is really good
>craft Patches.
>make a deck.
>every game, Patches is in my opening hand.
>every game, Patches is in my mulligan hand.

My headcanon is that Patches is gay for me. That's the only fucking explanation for this bullshit.
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>>174025558
fun-and-interactive-gameplay.jpg
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>>174026058

Best thing to learn is to ignore the guy you are quoting. Rat pack is core in pretty much any midrange hunter deck.
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>>174026279
indeed
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>>174025578
Most people enjoy winning
Few people are sociopaths
Therefore, most people that enjoy winning are not sociopaths
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>>174026058
>make sure you have a good curve
>make sure you have some cheap removal
>have a few things to top off your curve
>have good 1-drops
deckbuilding 101
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>>174026705
>Few people are sociopaths
This simply is not true. Most men are sociopaths. MOST. The inability to care about what consequences your actions have on others (who don't directly benefit yourself - such as your own family) by definition makes you a sociopath.
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>>174026925
People make selfish choices all the time, doesn't make 80% of the population of earth sociopaths
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>>174026925
>[citation fucking needed]
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>>174026925
nigger you are straight fucking retarded. Fuck off to reddit
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>>174026925
>The inability to care about what consequences your actions have on others (who don't directly benefit yourself - such as your own family)

It's not that they have an inability, it's that they just care less. If you don't care more about your family and friends then you are the one with the mental problem.
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>>174027013
>>174027014
>>174027097
>>174027172
I knew this would be the response. Why do sociopaths always hate being called what they are? Fucking egos. You want to be seen as good people when you're not. Sorry, you don't get that. When you act like shit, you get recognized as shit.
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Went to hearthstone reddit to see if they had information on who to bet on in the tournament, and the first post with the most arrows was a guy who paid "Edward Nigma" 200 bucks to teach him hearthstone and now they're on a witch hunt.

Are these people able to survive on their own? Finally I understand the stigma.
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>>174027362
reported
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>>174026886

Well played!
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>>174027362
are you baiting or are you legit retarded?
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>can beat anything that isn't pirate warrior
>only play pirate warriors
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>giantfin plays into repentance
>mage plays into eye for an eye
>everyone plays into redemption/kodo tirion
why is hydrologist the mvp of paladin?
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>>174026475

kekasaurus rekt
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>>174022503
>it doesn't matter what the number was besides like if it was the second last card in the other guys deck
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>>174021032
>Tales from Rank 14
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>>174026475

>priest with suncleric and creeper
stop bullying, anon.
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>>174020735
>Opened 4 spikeridged steed in my free packs
>This must be a sign!
>Lets craft the pally quest and make a fun deck

I fell for the quest meme. Fell so fucking hard. I ended up crafting 3 other epics and thanks to some """"advice"""" the useless piece of shit Voraxx . The deck was so awful that in 20 matches I couldn't get past rank 19. How can the quest be so shit?

On the other hand, I followed some suggestions in this general and used my last remaining dust to get Tirion to build a mid-range paladin list. I'm having so much fun, I'm right now in rank 8 and climbing!

My list is a bit greedier aiming for card draw early and buffs lategame. Gotta love dinosize, 9 points of charge damage can come out of nowhere.
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>its a frost nova/blizzard field from turn 4 to 10
did they really have to make the glyph a free fucking tutor?
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>>174027362
>I knew this would be the response. Why can't I generalize an entire gender with wild claims about their psyche without people pushing back??? >:(
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>>174027848
>Why can't I ignore facts and just spout smarmy bullshit and be right?
Because that's not how reality works outside of mommy's basement in the suburbs.
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>>174028029
>facts
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>>174025558
I just played against a Druid who had the giant anaconda out on my (paladin) T5, which I removed with Truesilver Champion only to have it pull out tarantus.

I BGH'd it immediately then went on to win with many rules followed and butts equalized
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>>174028029
>>Why can't I ignore facts and just spout smarmy bullshit and be right?
>didn't post facts
like i get you're baiting for response, but you can't be so obvious
I know this is going to get a bait reply but really if you want to get good at trolling people you need to play into it a little. You could at least post some obvious bullshit stats but you're probably to lazy to look for any
2/5, got people to reply, but overall sloppy
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>>174028029
Doubt you see much outside of that rat cage
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>>174028092
>If you lack a conscience you're a sociopath
>THAT'S NOT A SOCIOPATH!
Yes, yes it is. Deal with it.
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>>174023382
Just durdle ad infinitum until you have x2 molten image and x2 sorcerers apprentice and Uncle Antoinidas, then win.

I once got a freeze made to fatigue and as soon as they drew their last card they combo' didn't out in one turn and won.
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>>174027623
i bet you're the vegetarian fag from 2 days ago
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Never lucky BabyRage
https://youtu.be/oSs4CkA9IaE
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>kibler with a tempo priest
i-is it good? what other tempo priest has there been?
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How would you feel if the Druid Quest Reward was a 5-cost Spell, "for the rest of the game, your minions cost (0)"
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>>174028480
What was in it? The Lyra package seems like it's been holding priest decks together lately
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anyone try out Volcanosaur? They sound pretty strong. Or is Vicious Fledgling just that much better?
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>>174028665
in what deck? those cards do completely different things
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>>174028615

geodes, mevidh, and elise though that might just be a meme inclusion for late game padding unless the combo potential the pack has with lyra and mevidh is that good.
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I'm kind of burned out of the game, but this is not a "I quit" post, its a "I need some variation" post.

By that I'm just asking you guys if you know other online card games that are different, not the typical battle with stuff against each other card games. I don't want to play another hs/magic-like variant. I do play netrunner from time to time at home and its great, very different, very interesting mechanics and whatnot, but there's no online version.

So, do you guys know some rare and possibly weird gems?
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>>174028887

Try Faeria. It's F2P like HS, and it's got an interesting board-building mechanic.
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>>174028665
I use one volcanosaur in my midrange pally deck. He does wonders, and he makes running the Curator that much better.
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>>174028821
Lyra/Medihv seems counter intuitive to run in the same deck but maybe I'm wrong
Geodes sounds meme-y but I guess priest doesn't really have any other two drops so maybe it's not that bad
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>>174028887
Try Star Realms, online or IRL. It's a fun little game.
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>>174028887
If you want a good single-player experience, the Plants vs. Zombies: Heroes card game has a good single-player mode. Grind for cards and heroes is shitty, but not as bad as HS. Also has PVP ofc.
Mobile-only tho so either phone or emulator.
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Cowndawg#1658

Help a fellow /hsg/ lurker out lads and get that sweet, sweet 80g.
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>>174028887
>solforge died
>infinity wars died
> :<

try faeria or duelyst before they die too
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>>174028887
MTG is doing an event LITERALLY tomorrow where they're giving people who show up at local stores a free deck to get into the game.

A legitimate, physical deck, and you can meet people or trade cards or whatever the hell. And, unless you live in Bumfuck, Uruguay, there's probably one near you.
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>>174028887
world of warcraft

interesting fact, many of the cards in hearthstone are actually based on lore figures from wow
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>Have enough dust to craft 1 fully golden deck
>Can't decide what to craft
What do /hsg/? Would taunt warrior be worth it? I want a deck that blows aggro decks out of the water. Thought about mage and rogue as well but they have no heals apart from ice barrier.
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>>174029034
tell me about this. Is it just show up to a local card shop and they give free shit?
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thanks for the suggestions guys
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>>174028720
I'm making an egg/beast druid deck, I'm looking at mid-late game options
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>>174029097
>full gold
Don't ever craft full gold unless you have 1 of every card in non-gold.
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>>174028993
medivh is for freed from amber memes as a finisher. I dont know what the deck has to counter exodia and quest warrior though
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>>174029097

Craft Golden Pirate Warrior for maximum ass-pain.
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>>174029176
I'm mostly just missing cards i would never play in the first place.
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>tfw you lose track of what turn it is and set up for lethal against a mage on turn 7
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>>174028665
They're both nice. Volcanosaur is just a good card and Fledgling is fucking madness if your opponent doesn't remove it immediately.
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>>174029228
Then save it for next Expansion and just start making Golden Leggos.
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>*holding Tirion in hand as a rogue in arena*
>wow why are these 5-2 decks I'm facing so damn good? so unfair
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>>174029002
NA server?
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am I doing it right
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>>174029291
>Save it
Nah. That's what i did when mean streets came out. This expansion at least has a lot of fun deck types and i have the dust and gold to go full on bling for once. Just need to decide what to craft.
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Well, finally got my first Legendary on pack 23. Thanks to the fag with the 80g quest. Shame it's trash
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game is boring
whats a hearthstone to draw?
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>>174029002
wasn't expecting so many people to respond, thanks lads, /hsg/ is alright.
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>>174029301
>28k viewers
How?
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>>174028992
Got a list chumsley?
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>>174029841

He's still the #1 Arena player NA.
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>>174029650
>free legendary you get to pick

I dunno what you're bitching about
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Man, this game is hard to kept up when you are a returning player, guess if you go the game want you to stay go.
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Does anyone know if adding a friend is case-sensitive? Like if the name is Camel#1234 if camel#1234 works?
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>Miracle Grow takes much skill!

Barely. When I play this deck I actually get choices unlike LOL FACE pirate warrior but really it comes down to the same as every other deck.

>Did I draw the nuts? If yes, win, if no, lose.

If I have two coins, a prep and lots of cheap spells with an auctioneer by T8 I pretty much auto win. If pirate warrior draws

>fly poly - I'm in charge now.
>FWA - Dread Corsair
>Upgrade + Bloodsail Raider
>Kor'Kon Elite
>Arcanite Reaper

You pretty much just auto lose. Nothing in your 'skill' can change that.
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>>174030213
No, it's the tag following it that matters.
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>>174030072
Blizzard can't grasp this. It's always been hard for players who are new or returning to keep up because the game has always been both extremely stingy about rewards and is heavily skewed towards epics and legendaries as a percentage of expansions. Nearly half of every expansion consists of them, yet you almost never open them. Kind of ridiculous.

>>174030240
I don't think you can just write anything before the # can you? I mean it has to be the actual name, right?
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>>174030234
>>Miracle Grow takes much skill!
I've never heard anyone say that
You can find semi-competent miracle players at all ranks. I'd imagine playing it at high legend takes more skill than the average deck though
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>>174030354
if your friend's blizzard ID is Niggerboy#1234 it wouldn't matter if you add him as nIggErBoY#1234
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>>174030354
Yeah I guess this is like this for a lot of CCGs, or you stuck your foot deep into the game, buying and trying to kept up to date with the meta, you wont be able to pull it out again. So is this the way this game has the "huge" amount of players?
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>>174030234
always interesting when a moron bothers to type up something this long and stupid
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>>174030493
>Yeah I guess this is like this for a lot of CCGs
It really isn't, actually. HS is one of the slowest and most legendary/epic-skewed games in existence.
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>Tavern Brawl
>Start at 10 mana and decrease by 1 each round.

What is your strat?
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>>174030668
win turn 1 with miracle, like in that brawl that actually started at full mana
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>>174030606

>HERP DERP DUMB MAN!

Might want to put some arguments with your words if you want to disagree.
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>>174030668
Play Miracle, mulligan for Auctioneer and draw half my deck the same turn.
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>>174030757
not here to argue shieldbearer logic with you son
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>>174030668
alex
fireball fireball coin frostbolt
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>>174030668
>start with 10 mana, both heroes invulnerable
>count down to 0 mana, whoever has the most minions/highest attack/statted minion wins
would it work?
i just want a minion battle brawl
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>>174030662
Well I will wait for Gwent to came out from the closed beta, the only thing Hearthstone is missing is a real competitor since they had it free for a lot of time since it came out.
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>When your opponent ropes every turn and you can practically hear his dad telling him which cards to play
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>>174030830

>*shaking* I'm wrong but I can't take it, you...you...double..ni..I don't have to argue with you your mind could not possibly cope so there! *shaking*
>Spaghetti everywhere.
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>>174030897
>>174030917
>>174030938

What the fuck...I've seen this exact set of posts before with the same image. Simulation glitch.
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I got 1600 magic beans. What should my next craft be? My options are:
>Lyra the Funshard
>Y'Shaarj
>Clutchmother Zavas
>Spiritsinger Umbra
>Deathwing, Memelord

Leaning toward Lyra since she's the most meta out of them all, but after watching some damp druid on stream, I'm tempted to start building toward it.

I'm not sure if Zavas makes the cut in Discolock.
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>>174031072
https://youtu.be/dv13gl0a-FA?t=1m4s
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>>174031184
I've literally never seen anyone actually discard Zavas
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>Krip has all golden arena decks

I don't get that, just makes them more likely to spot who you are and then snipe your stream.
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>instead of a 4/4 and a 5/5 on board for 4 mana I choose 3 2/2s for 6 mana which are then annihilated by volcanic potion next turn

why is Kripp so bad at card games?
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>>174031456
I feel like Kripp sucks off cards he said were good and can't admit he was wrong
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>>174031424
He wants to get sniped, you doofus. The more he suffers, the more people will subscribe to him.
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Can any control deck beat Taunt Warrior?
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>tfw roping the lethal turn so they realise how much of a superior player I am
even better when they just surrender
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>>174031743
>tfw roping the lethal turn so they realise how much of a teenager I am
fixed
>>
>miracle rogue it up for an hour on rank 10
>lose 9 times in a row, no idea what i'm doing wrong
>switch to pirate warrior out of frustration
>win so easy my opponent spam insults me when i lethal him
>turn off game

I hate this. Dumb aggro decks that just sit face are so disgusting and no fun to play, but apparently I'm too stupid for anything else.
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>>174031829
What were you playing against and what was your build? I've been doing fine against anything that isn't midrange hunter with the nuts or pirates
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Earlier Kripp was saying how roping against him could get your account banned.

What the fuck was he on about?
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>>174031829
might aswell play murloc now you diseased animal
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>>174031964
He legitimately got someone banned who sniped and roped him constantly. Kripp has some connections at blizzard and got someone banned for "harassment" for roping him constantly
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>>174032032
that's fucking childish
roping every turn on purpose is cunty but whining about it to blizzard is a thousand times worse
>>
Taunt Warrior is made for mouthbreathing retards and you cannot dispute this.
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>>174032032
doesn't surprise me. He also has a direct connection to the poe devs and can call them for whatever. Not surprising then when he create a new meta build by having all the proper damage formula and interactions figured out.
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>>174031829
Playing against other miracle and quest rogues.
Saw some shamans. That's it.

>>174032009
Gotta be more specific than that. Murloc pally? Shaman? Murloc Warrior?
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>>174032105
lel who gives a shit. I dont care if some retarded cunt got banned for roping
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>When a friend challenges you to a duel and there's no gold involved
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>>174032227
you hate fun anon? I had some good times with a guy from here, we were just making randomized deck and doing silly matches. Good times.
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>>174032280
This game has turned me into a jew. A positively inhuman thing crawling on the ground for extra shekels for packs.
>>
>>174031829

>Wank 10

Fuck off.
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>>174032354
We call it the irreversible condition
>>
>want to play freeze mage
>also want to climb ladder

shieeeeeeet
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this guy won FIVE (5) (V) games of arena before making this play
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>>174032374
Relax, brother.
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>>174020276
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rags to liches
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>misplay hard
>still win
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>Bored out of my mind and want to watch some Ungoro stuff
>Start watching Day9

This dude is just pretending to be retarded, right?
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>>174032612
>Not sure what to do
>Look at my class
>Look at the cards in my hand
>Look at my mana crystaks
>Look at the minion on my board
>Look at the minions on their side of the board
>Look at their mana crystals
>Look at the number of cards in their hand
>Look at their class
>Decide to go face
>Win
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I'm thinking about playing miracle, but I don't know if Sherazin is actually worth crafting.

Definitely fits the deck archetype, but the 3 health is still bothersome for so many easy and cheap removals.
>>
What's the point of people inviting you to spectate?
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>>174032872
>This dude is just pretending to be retarded, right?

Yes.
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>>174033094
pretty much what happened, except I thought I had lethal, but I didn't
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>>174032612
>miss lethal
>opponent concedes anyway
phew
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>>174033243
He's good. People like Kripp have overblown how good he is but he pretty much carries longer games. He's pretty much your only early proactive card and he's your only four drop so by default he's useful. He's not meta-defining but he demands answers otherwise he can close out games
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>>174033310
>bluff like i have lethal
>play fast and confident
>they concede

i love this game sometimes
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Do any of you guys bot? What for?
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>>174031184
Umbra if you wanna finish kitting out your Rattle Priest.
Lyra if you wanna fun Priest.
Dragonlord if you play Wild, cause Dragon anything is worthless now.
Absolutely skip the other 2.
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>>174033475
>important turn
>trying to figure out how to stay alive and set up lethal
>deciding what risks to take
>taking my time to think about my options
>thinking about what could he have that can fuck me up
>"You win this one friend"
t-thanks
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>never draw any of the 4 hard removals in my deck
Fuck this shit.
Also holy shit vicious fledgling is garbage in hunter decks.
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>>174033674
I botted a long time ago and I was banned for six months (I think).
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>>174033378
teacher is another option, and imo, better
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>>174033875
Which bot did you use?
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>>174027802
How could you possibly believe that not only The Last Kaleidosaurus was going to be good, but even fucking Voraxx? And you crafted them without having Tirion, one of the evergreen and most tried and trusted legendaries in the game. And you probably miss many more beside Tirion. Sucks to be you. I unpacked Kaleidosaurus and I have yet to try it out because I knew perfectly well from the beginning that it was complete dogshit. I'm sorry nobody told you.
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>>174033981
Oh, dude. I don't even remember. It was the most common one everyone used.
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>>174033674
People used to bot the 100g you could earn in play mode for winning 30 total games
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>>174022046
What that other guy said. Basically if you don't draw a win condition in the first 7-8 turns, ya gonna lose.

If you don't draw removal against that faggot taunt warrior, you gonna lose.
If you don't draw flare/secret eater or crabs or etc etc etc, ya gonna lose.
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>>174029042
>Mean streets of Gadgetzan
>Actual gadgetzan is like 5 mudhuts and an auction house
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>>174020735
https://gyazo.com/143f983143e14b7ca374ab4a027fb35b

Savjz's list works great but it's more versatile and leans towards a control playstyle
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>>174033947
Teacher on 4 doesn't feel proactive enough to me, and I'd rather save my spells for going off with Gadget than trying to get some value out of teacher. Flower gets more value from just doing stuff IMO, and people are still running portal so it's not like teacher dudes are that valuable
>>
>new expansion hits
>spend 1 hour playing it
>stop playing until next expansion
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>>174033872
>Also holy shit vicious fledgling is garbage in hunter decks.
Really? Why? Not fast enough?
>>
>>174034215
It's an in-universe card game with its own lore
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>>174031184
Between those, Lyra. Consider Umbra if you play Wild I guess.
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>>174033947
Any other replacements? I'd play Teacher but would cost me $200.
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the fuck is the point of playing priest

rogue just copies your shit more and better and somehow gets lyra every game
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>>174034736
People play Priest to pass time while their bull is getting prepped.
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>>174034559
just wait if you wanna play miracle, bookmark hsdogdog's stream and see how his perfect decklist will look like in [however long you can wait]

people play 2 vilespine destroyers right now, and i feel like it's bad

throw one out and put in another SI:7 or something
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>>174034736
>tfw hallucination into thoughsteal into silence into forbidden shaping into coin coin coin Edwin on turn 4
nothing personnel kiddo
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>>174034736
>the fuck is the point of playing priest
To be a whiny bitch. All priests do is bitch that their class is underpowered or act smug when they do something fun and interactive.
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>>174034454
Yeah. It usually just ends up taking space unless you get lucky with a rhino or some shit.
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>>174034891
Yeah, it's kind of sketchy. It's either busted or just a 3/3 for 3.
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>>174034824
REEE FUCKING DELETE THIS
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>>174031184
If those are the only options, Lyra. If you actually want a card with lasting value, get one of the neutral legendaries that slaps down current t1 decks like TBK or Harrison
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>>174034843
There is so much fucking truth in this post. Also, if someone plays Priest, there is a 80% chance that their catchphrase will be
>I "main" Priest
>>
>priest mains are shit
>amaz is a priest main
at last i truly see
>>
To be honest, I don't really mind the rotation as much I do in MtG, mostly because I can play HS whenever I want, and I can only play with my hard-earned Magic cards once in a while. It still pains me to craft legendaries that will soon rotate out, though.

>>174035030
It's the appeal of being able to do something cool once on a while while not being labelled as "cancer" or "mainstream". Basically what people in this general is always saying they want to do, but then only play more pirate warrior.
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>Add someone from online
>Having metaphysical discussion
Holy shit it's too late at night for this.
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>>174035015
I forgot I don't have TBK. Though isn't he a bit too slow for this meta?
>>
they always get direhorn back in like 2 turns

what the fuck
>>
>wine one game
>Lose three
>Hate the game and never want to play it again
I need to go back to just playing quests and arena, I don't understand how people don't break shit playing this game.
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>>174035446
Blizz should let people dust their cards that rotate for full value when the expansion rotates
Of course they wont, because then those people won't buy packs, but it'd be nice
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>>174035446
>want to go all-in on miracle priest
>think volazj would be great for 2 or 4x elemental
>old gods is the next set to rip
It's really frustrating knowing I shouldn't do it
>>174035656
He's a tech choice mostly for qWarrior. Will he be a dead draw in most other matchups? Absolutely. Too slow to kill off turn 3 tar lurker
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>>174035817
Then people would feel forced to dust all their Wild cards, and then less people would play Wild, and then Blizzard would make even less money, dummy.
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>>174035976
People already feel forced to do it because of Blizzard's shitty pay model.

I never planned on playing wild, but I would like to have kept the cards in case I ever did, or for brawl.

>implying I'm going to pay $60 for some cards in a virtual children's game
>>
So has the dust settled and we know what decks are viable or are we still not in the clear?
>>
>>174036179

If you're not playing Rogue or Warrior, prepare to be violated by Rogue or Warrior
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>>174036179
You either play quest rogue/warrior or build a deck specifically to beat them. Only thing we aren't clear on is how to do that consistently.
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>>174036179
it still hasnt settled but some surprising shit is miracle rogue is back and by some god forsaken reason freeze mage refuses to fucking die after being nuked
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>>174036317
Got any good miracle decks? I love playing rouge but I don't know any good miracle dicks.
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>>174036419
The one eloise used to get to legend is fun
I get that yagut is a top legend player but I can't fucking stand to play any list that he runs
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>>174036419
Theres a lot of lists. Either eloise or try dog's, or if you're feeling crazy miracle jade plant rogue that thjis was playing yesterday was actually really good
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>wake up
>go play ladder
>nothing but hunters straight
>>
>Full star Rank 6

>Lose

>Win

>Lose

>Win

>Lose

>Break expensive headphones, put a hole in the wall

What """""""""fun""""""""
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if you have golden warrior.. and legend cardback.. why play fucking pirate warrior still..
>>
This week's brawl is fun
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>>174037316
Because thats how you got there in the first place
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>>174037316
how do you think they got those things?
>>
>me and friend have challenge quests
>also have spectate quest so I watch while waiting to trade with him
>he's rank 12 playing some sort of topdeck hunter and wrecking a quest warrior
I realize it could have been a good curve but for what was an 800 dust deck and basic cards, it performed very well (and beat both of my priest decks while trading the quest right after).

Try it and see what happens. 3 game sample isn't good but I do know he went from 20 to 12 in what was maybe 2 days of casual play.
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>see a "legend" decklist
>looks sweet, similar to what I've been trying
>build it
>immediately win 5 games in a row with it
>get to rank 8
>"this deck is fucking sweet, finally my chance to climb"
>proceed to be stuck in rank 8 for 10 matches
>eventually de-climb

This is killing me.
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>>174037513
alright, you wanna get ranks fast or whatever I get it.. but how can anyone have "fun" just tossing cards onto face is mind boggling
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>taunt
>taunt
>taunt with aids amount of health
>die insect
How the fuck does taunt warrior lose to anything? I haven't played it yet, but holy fuck is it annoying to play against.
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>thought renounce darkness was rotating out of standard
>go check the cards just for the heck of it
>it was WotG-card
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I have no clue how quest rogue got through dev

Not because it's necessary too strong but because it's the closest thing to an MTG style combo deck since math warrior and casuals despise that shit
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>>174038032
Your post implies that they tested something
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>>174037737

Really good Pirate Warrior draws have fucked me harder than a virgin in a Roman bath house.

Quest Rogue can also fuck a Quest Warrior if she gets her quest off on or before turn 5.

Also: I FUCKING DID IT!

THREE HOURS OF GRINDING AT RANK 6

I don't know what sex feels like, but I can't imagine it feeling better than this!
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>>174038032
>thinking the devs actually playtest the meta
Boy, you're about to be disappointed a lot in life.
>>
>>174037671
>start off 5-1
>fail to draw auctioneer 4 games in a row
>want to kill myself

fucking hate this game sometimes.
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>>174038032
Yeah I don't either. It's like they didn't even test these quests. Some are just unplayable and two are fucking broke as shit.
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>>174023034
>mfw that's actually convenient for me

Thanks.
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What counters Taunt Warrior?
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>>174039041
Rogue
>>
>>174039041
Paladin?
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>>174039041
nothing
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>>174039041
Taunt warrior with better RNG
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>>174037802
>it has less outcomes now

blizzard really do ruin everything
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>it's a retard plays an early dirty rat vs a non-combo deck and losses because of it

what the fuck do they expect to happen?
>>
So what's better quest rogue or miracle?
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>>174039041
Ramp with good curve
Dirty Rat if you're sure there's no Deathwing or if you have removals tools.
Honestly it's just cancer since they have the best removals tools.
>>
>>174039569

>play Dirty Rat and pull their combo piece.
>Kill it.
>They concede.
>"A recent opponent would like to be your friend!"

I love getting love letters.
>>
>>174039671
miracle
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>>174039671
miracle assuming you have all the legendaries
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>>174020129
> go out and get drunk with friends
> get blown by friend who has BF
> decide to play hs
> fall from rank 2 to rank 5

Weeee alcohol is the worst drug lads
>>
this jp tournament is better than the global games
>>
>Gentle Megasaur is a fucking epic

god damn it blizzard why do you do this to me, I really want to try out midrange murlocs but it's so fucking expensive.

I'd have to craft two warleaders which I don't feel as bad about since they're evergreen and blizz pushes murloc shit every expansion but still
>>
>>174040564
you should have most if not all classic cards by now
>>
>Use hero power 30 times
Fuck you too Blizzard
>>
>>174033674
I used to bot for daily gold cap and for golden shammy, didn't ever get banned nor suffered from any consequences.

I no longer bot though, learned to enjoy the game.
>>
im new to the game so apologies if this is retarded, but how would this tavern brawl work out?

>first person to run out of cards wins
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>>174040737
I do for the most part, which kinda makes the classic epics I'm missing that much more annoying. I don't want to buy classic packs when there's such a low % chance I'll get an epic, much less an epic that I don't already hve
>>
Why can't challenge a friend people just fucking let me tap myself to death and delete them without being a fucking crybaby.

>WAHHHH YOU'RE GIVING ME 80G BUT PLS PLAY A REAL GAME WITH ME
>WAHHHHHHHHHH WHY DID YOU DELETE ME I NEED A F-F-FRIEND

Fuck off you stupid faggots.
>>
>took more effort to go from 5 to 4 than it did to go from 25 to 5

Fucking 0-2 star 5 is nothing but quest rogues shitting up the ladder and I know the moment I switch to counter them it'll be nothing but taunt warrior.
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>>174040564

>I'd have to craft two warleaders which I don't feel as bad about since they're evergreen

Don't be so sure about that, friend. "Evergreen" is now a relative statement.
>>
fucking done with this shitgame only pirate and quest rogues and taunts
see you next expansion card babbies
>>
>>174039041
rng
luck
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>>174041312
I am already dreading doing my dailies but I know I have to do so I won't fall them. Can't wait to see what brand of cancer I run into today.
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>>174041273
at least they give you full dust for hall of fame
>>
i fucking beg you

ive spent 10 minutes insta conceding and adding people

why does no one accept

80 gold challenge quest Kaethar#21435 EU

PLEASE
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>all other programs running
>launch hearthstone
>queue into hunter
>game literally freezes as soon as I click on a card
>have an ez way to deal with both hyenas a hunter just played
>unfreezes when the rope runs out
>didn't even get to attack with my weapon

Fuck you Hearthstone fucking piece of shit game
>>
>>174041457

That Hall of Fame dust means nothing unless you're willing to spend a week or so playing a neutered deck to figure out what the safe crafts are.

Also, fuck them for out of one mouth saying "BASIC AND CLASSIC ARE SAFE" and from the other saying "ONLY CLASSIC CARDS WE LIKE ARE SAFE". There are nerfs they can instigate that allows those HoF cards to remain.
>>
>>174041498

There is literally no reason to ever accept anyone because 99% of all people will just be whiny bitches adding you to cry
>>
>>174041545
Windows 10?

How old is your PC?
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>>174041586

Go to bed, Reaver
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>>174041498
>>174041586
SHOUTOUT TO MY BOY POTATOES HE A REAL ONE
>>
Winners moves.... Empires falls...
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Rate my OC, does this make Quest Druid viable or will people just continue to play Dragon Ramp?
>>
Who do i vote for?
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>>174033378
Here's my problem with sherazin: it takes 4 cards to revive but only 1 card to kill. It seems easy to just run the rogue out of cards if they focus on reviving it every turn and you just taunt/remove it.
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>>174041610
It's just some shitty laptop I got in 2014 but it runs overwatch fine, it shouldn't fucking freeze on HS
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>been playing a dragon priest since day 2
>its a great deck
>all those meta lists rate versions highly
>not once encountered anyone else playing it
>every single priest is silence/combo

Why? Is it because no streamer plays it to be copied from?
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SCUTTLEBUG THE SHIP
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>>174042024
You're getting it for free though while the opponent has to spend resources dealing with it. The idea is that as a Rogue you'll want to play that many cards for your miracle turns anyway.

If you can revive him two times and the opponent spends two additional cards dealing with it then that's three for one.
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>>174042024

It would be easy to run the Rogue out of cards if they didn't have consistent means of stealing cards from other classes and discounting them like they do now.

The amount of value that can be generated from the burgle value and cards like Burgly Bully is insane for Sherazin. All the while you're exhausting your opponent's resources.
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>>174042024
He's not the main focus of the deck. You shouldn't needlessly waste cards just to revive him. Besides, even if he revives just once he's still value and since you run him in a miracle auctioneer deck, it's bound to happen at least once or twice. Unless you get your teeth kicked in by an aggro deck that is.
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>hit rank 10
>suddenly no more quest rogues
>no more quest mages

REEEEEEEEE I want my free wins. How the fuck am I supposed to rank against taunt warriors, midrange hunters that topdeck all the shit they need and handlocks?
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>>174042063
Very interesting - I also have a laptop, from 2012 though, after one of the windows 10 updates it started to freeze and even disconnect from the internet, which was ESPECIALLY annoying when playing HS. Supposedly this is because of some driver incompatibilities.

Might be something similar, idk.
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>>174042063

High graphics setting, ensure your resolution box is actually set to something rather than a blank box
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>>174039978
No one believes you bro
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>>174020276
Kel'Thuzad was turned into a Lich by Ner'Zhul/Lich King you drooling retard. He never had any contact with Arthas before becoming a Lich.
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>>174042679
Except he did. And it was Arthas who killed him.
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TAKE A GUESS WHICH ONE FUCKING WON


this is how you tell laddrs are rigged to make you lose when algorithm decided you're winning too much, fucking forced 50% winrate bullshit
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>>174024959

she's literally spreading her butthole
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>>174042226
I haven't updated my drivers in a while, I might try that. On Windows 10 as well

>>174042259
I didn't know about the blank box thing, thanks
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Challenge a Friend (EU)
winam#2986
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>>174042836

>this is how you tell laddrs are rigged to make you lose when algorithm decided you're winning too much, fucking forced 50% winrate bullshit

hahaha you fucking retards crack me up with this shit every time
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>>174042949
done already
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>finally get the quest rogue godhand
>opponent concedes as soon as i played the quest
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>>174032562

lol

that should scare you desu it means he's so awful that his 90 points heartarena deck carried him there
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Can you give me good quest warrior deck?
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>>174043460
hearthpwn.com
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>Crafted kalimos 2 days ago
>Just got it off a pack
JUST
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>>174043546
Condolences.
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"LAPDOGS, ALL OF YOU!"
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>>174043546

From one of my preorder good goy packs
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>>174043460

Add Quest
Add Taunts
Add Removal

If you can't put together something that works you might actually be retarded.
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>>174032561
>Chinese player got #1 legend with Freeze Mage
Just do it faggot.
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>>174043684
what's a lapdog
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>>174032561
I was watching my rank 200 legend friend play freeze mage. He queued into a mirror 4 times in a row, and it literally came down to who drew their burn first. one guy even ran eater of secrets to counter him and win the mirror. This shit is all over legend ladder apparently. Basically, do it
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>Got kabalnigger and counterspell in the opening hand against warrior
>It's pirate
Jesus i had nothing but taunt warriors so far why do you do this to me hearthstone
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>>174043917
>Counterspell on T1
Wouldn't they just coin you?
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>>174043848
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>>174043972
You would be surprised how braindead they can be. I counterspelled quests more times than i should really.
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>launch day
>today will be a fun day! everyone will be experimenting with new fun decklists!
>3/5 games are still pirate warrior, but with minor Un'Goro tweaks
>wait 3-4 days for meta to adjust and inevitable fall of pirate warrior as counter decks rise
>3/4 games are vs pirate warrior, remaining 1/4 are vs rogue
>wait another week, still desperately clinging to /hsg/'s claims that a 2nd golden age of HS will dawn upon us with Un'goro
>log on
>first 2 games are vs pirate warrior
>log off
>shitpost on /hsg/ about it

see you guys in 3-4 days
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>>174037241
>destroying goods over a video game

How degenerate are you , anon?
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>>174044154
>pirate warrior, but with minor Un'Goro tweaks
>implying

there are no ungoro cards worth swapping for whats in the deck already
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>>174044154
How to get rid of pirates:
>add Golakka Crawler to your deck
>suddenly not a single pirate on ladder
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>>174044050
well i dont mind being a cute doggy~
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>>174044225
>add Crawler
>hunter
>hunter
>hunter
>hunter

River Crocolisk is such a good card brah
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>>174039041
Got taunt warrior into fatigue with my Control ele shamy. Good times
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>>174044154
Just play Casual if you want to play against a larger variety of decks. Of course people are going to spam pirate warrior on ladder, what'd you expect?
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>>174044346

>play ladder
>top ladder decks

>play casual
>top ladder decks

yeah just play casual :^)
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>>174044381
Maybe at your MMR, shitter. Decent players experiment with fun meme decks in casual at my mmr. Shitter.
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>>174044270
I'm glad you agree?
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>>174037241
HAAHHAHAHAHA
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>taunt warrior
>quest rogue
>taunt warrior
>quest rogue
>taunt warrior

Simply epic. And you thought last seasons meta was cancer.
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>>174024921

Ask Sweden about that.

Nevermind, ask the whole western civilization instead.
>>
Scenario 1:
>get matched vs. pirate warrior
>insta-concede so you don't have to play against pirate warrior
>pirate warrior gets a free win

Scenario 2:
>get matched vs. pirate warrior
>play against said pirate warrior and lose
>pirate warrior wins, wasted your time, and you're probably a tiny bit salty

Scenario 3:
>get matched vs. pirate warrior
>play against said pirate warrior and win
>pirate warrior will still outpace you on the climb up ladder

Net effect = you lose.

Solution:
Play pirate warrior because it's fast games, win or lose. And you usually win. But my soul will burn in hell for eternity.
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>>174043684
>Turn one
>10/10 lapdogs all of you
>mfw I am playing Silence Priest
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I just figured out how to out value Taunt Warrior as Dragon Priest. You tech in Elise and then you shadow vision 2 extra packs. Suddenly from 4-6, ever since I made that change I am 4-0 vs Taunt Warrior.
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Wow, mage arena decks are fucking crazy these days.
I just drafted a 73.1 control mage and now at 3+ wins it's 100% control mages with seemingly infinite board clears and premium removal, and either the infinite random spell clown fiesta with deathwing or the infinite elemental clown fiesta with ozruk.
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Why the fuck are they playing dirty rat so randomly?
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>>174044673

Why would you care about someone's ladder climbing pace as long as you won , you fucking moron. You won , got the star , gg and move on.

I swear to god , people that post stuff like this should neck themselves immediately.
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>>174044754
haha look at me I'm saying clownfiesta just like my favorite streamer imaqtpie!!1! xd im so laid back and baylife chill about everything h3h3111! : 3

neck yourself faggot
>>
>Haven't played since goblin expansion
>Never really built a huge library then
>Just got back into the game.
>Assume most my cards are banned in standard or useless
Any suggestions for a poverty tier deck? I used to play paladin but I'm sure the meta is completely changed.
>>
>2x Golakka Crawler in like every deck
>Pirate warrior is still shitting on everything

really makes u think
>>
So after a week and a half of ungoro, here's my verdict: flame elementals are REALLY cute.
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>>174044852
Hunter midrange and zoolock are cheap with hunter being more consistent.
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>>174044809
Because for non autists the entire purpose of logging into Hearthstone is to achieve rank 5 as quickly as possible so you don't have to log in again for the remainder of the month. Don't tell me you actually play for the "joy" of playing turn 5 win stone.
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>>174044828
how is your autism today, anon?
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>>174044852
midrange hunter is cheap as shit and tier 1/tier 2
>>
>play deck X that loses to deck Y
>whenever I queue as X I get versed against Y
>switch to deck Z
>get the perfect counter to it, deck X

This is chaos.
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>>174044828
> Haha look at this anon using a same word as a streamer also uses, what a faggot!
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>>174044852
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/hearthstone-journey-ungoro-budget-decks-cheap-decks-ungoro-meta/
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>>174044912
I used to reach rank 5 all the time. Nowadays I just give up at rank 10. The extra 300 dust is not worth the emotional toil of climbing from 10 to 5 especially if your win streak before the extra star gets hammer by a Pirate Warrior who drew the nuts.
>>
God, I wish I could just fight nothing but Pirate Warriors and Rogues. They're predictable, fair, and involve a meaningful game of fighting for the board. As opposed to fighting against Taunt Warriors, which have so many different forms of AOE removal that playing around their control feels impossible, and Freeze Mage, which has even more variance and less interaction due to discovered spells. My win/loss against Freeze Mage isn't even that bad, but it's still the most insufferable matchup.
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>>174044919
>feels embarrassed someone spotted him out for being a retarded 'hurr im so laidback like imaqtpie' fanboy
>c'mon man! clownfiesta! muh retarded cat! c'mon man! this is a clownfiesta! I talk slow b/c I'm apathetic about everything man! clownfiesta right here man!
>accuses them of autism

Haha damn you sure got me nailed to a cross.
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>>174044912
For me , playing HS it's not a chore. I play it in my spare time , I don't want to achieve rank 5 or legend , I just want to play casual and try out decks that seem fun to me.

I know that the majority in here are hardcore players ( correct me if I'm wrong ) and they take a video game very seriously but I simply do not want to reach rank 5 or at least give it a shot.
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>>174044776

I like to think people are making the absolute worst reads on your hand
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>>174044859

specific hate cards are fucking stupid in a game without a sideboard. I don't know why Blizzard keeps printing them and expecting them to do shit,
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>>174045090
Rank 5 is one free epic per month.
With how jewish Blizzard is making this game, I have no idea why won't you want to get Rank 5.
>>
>that realization when you can only play aggro decks to climb effectively
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>>174045090
the vocal minority are 'hardcore' players but I think the majority are just content to fuck around at low ranks, they just dont announce their rank because 'lol kys shieldbearer'
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>>174045038
I don't even know who imaqtpie is, I've heard a shitload of people use the term "clownfiesta" even completely unrelated to Hearthstone

u r dumb
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>>174045038
yet you felt the need to defend yourself by typing all that shit I didn't even bother to read.
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>>174045204
A retarded unoriginal fanboy and a weak liar too, all rolled into one very pathetic package.

You're going to make a lucky lady very happy someday, lad. Now stop replying to me, you're turning this thread into a clownf1e5ta.
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>>174045161
I invested quite a lot in this game so I don't really care about one more epic card.

>>174045193
Oh. My bad , then. Didn't realize that the hardcore players can be so autistic.
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>>174045329
>I invested a lot
>I play casual
For
What
Purpose
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>>174045212
>samefagging to defend himself
New low lad, new low.
Quick, quickly shoop a snip to prove me wrong!

>didn't even bother to read
Bothered to type out a reply and post it, however.

You're not too bright are ya lad?
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>>174045358
I know this may come as a shock to you but not everyone cares about the artificial gratification granted by a virtual number that resets every month
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>>174045454
Show legend cardback in collection or confirmed complete shitter
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>>174045454
If you are going to invest a lot of money into this game there are plenty of games that are way cheaper and better to play. This is the first time I heard of someone who puts money into this game and then just play it casually.
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>>174045487
I don't have one, cause I'm not an autistic retard like you that grinds this game mindlessly. You post proof of yours, oh wait- you don't have one either.
>>
devolve is such a retarded card
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>>174045550
No you are the autistic retard that gave money to blizzard to play this casually.
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>>174045358
It's simple. At first , I wanted to see how high I can climb (back in WoTOG) , ended up rank 13 and was pretty much happy about it. Since meanie streets and pirate warrior , I just gave up climbing and went to casual to try out some decks and it's a relieve to see something else than garrosh/magni , valeera/maiev.
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>>174045639
>Put enough money that you don't need a free epic per month
>Highest rank is 13
Anon....
>>
Is elemental shaman worth crafting, considering both fun and power? Or is it too weak?
>>
AWW YEAH FINALLY AN UNGORO LEGENDA-
>Lyra
FUCK
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>>174045726
Nigga she the bomb.
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>>174045687
Yes, anon?
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>>174045726
that's good
im jealous
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>>174045550
HAHA holy shit you really are something. You call others autistic for being good at the game, yet you are so autistic that you spend hundreds of dollars and can't even hit legend once, let alone every month,
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>>174045741
>>174045814
>playing priest
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>>174045595
>shaman tries to devolve my arcane giants
>concedes

happens every other shaman match
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>>174045726
I had that same reaction, but it turns out she's actually good and on top of that might be the most fun card in the set.
And that play animation looks really neat too.
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>>174045837
>had to crop a screenshot he found on google images

HAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT NECK YOURSELF

thanks for the laugh, you pathetic faggot
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>>174045918
K my number is #11498. Message me in game in game faggot, I might even give you some coaching if you ask nicely :^)
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>>174045726
>>174045851

Lyra seems to be more popular actually and honestly he's pretty good, so it's not that bad.

>>174045861
Don't forget it's just a shamanstone player who invested in shaman class, probably golden portrait and just built auto-piloted decks until now. Since they have to play on curve and think about their play instead of vomits all elementals in their hands, you see much less shamans on ladder.
All the shamans I see now are golden.
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>>174045757
You are shit at this game.
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is this card actually worth anything
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topest of keks xD
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>>174046050
You can try it in a meme deck. I'd say it's a good unpack because it's one of those epics you'd never craft, but now you actually get to try it out.
>>
>>174045851
always been the patriction class along with warrior
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>>174046050
Yeah stonehill defender is great in paladin and taunt warrior

Look on the bright side, 100 free dust
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>>174046050
100 dust or a meme deck. The only things better are a good epic, or leggos
>>
Is there some app that lets me scan my collection and see dust costs based on that?
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>>174046050
Only useful on daily quest "play 50 warrior cards" in casual. Or if you just want to meme hard but it's not even a good memedeck.
>>
>>174046168

doubt it
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>>174046093
>>174046109
>>174046148
>>174046174
i just found out it doesn't even transform the cards in your hand

i wanted to make a control memedeck where you just draw like a retard then transform your entire hand but it only transforms the cards in your deck so you're stuck drawing one by one

fucking hell blizzard you can't even make memedecks right
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>>174046226
There's always renounce dankness
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>>174045918
Looks like the autistic faggot closed the thread and fucked off after being BTFO to orbit
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>>174046226
>so you're stuck drawing one by one
you could keep card draw in your hand to play afterwards.
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>Ap. 15th
>15 days till the end of the month

It is too late to start the grind to legend?

I just got rank 5 today with midrange hunter and it's my only deck along Elemental Shaman (tier 3 according to tempo storm)
I got like 3k dust but I don't know if it's enough to craft pirate or taunt warrior shit
>>
>>174046062
What is that card art?
>>
>>174046343
Wait isn't Explore Un'goro like Renounce darkness and also transform your hand into discovery 1-overcosted mana?
>>
>>174044582
Except quest rougue is sh*t and quest will be nerfed anyway
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This creature is your friend

It protects your face
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>>174046453
if its shit why would it be nerfed?
>>
>>174046226
Blizzard is obliged to print a certain number of meme cards per expac
>>
>>174045726
Currently at pack 16 and no lego yet.
>>
>>174046439
it's addon called whorestone
>>
>>174046226
>i just found out it doesn't even transform the cards in your hand
That's a feature because this way you can keep whatever cards benefit from 1 mana spells.
>>
>>174046447
no. you have to draw the cards first then play them
>>
>>174046567
but gazlowe rotated out
but now that you talk about it, auctioneer is probably good
>>
>>174046483
too slow
even taunt warrior cut him
>>
>>174046226
So many people can't read. I don't blame Team5 for treating the players like retards, they are.
>>
>>174046570
Oh. Thats kind of sucks tho, if your draw the memecard but you have like 5 cards left you're fucked.
>>
>>174046062
>it replaces Valeera with a shitty nigger elf

Good thing I decided not to install this mod.
>>
>>174020129
>arena
just kill me irl
>>
>>174046713
that's the problem. you have to run two of these (800 dust) and the pay off isn't even that good
>>
>every quest deck (besides warrior) winds up being better without the quest

Well nicely done blizzard.

I guess rogue too but like warrior their quest deck just doesn't exist without it, but old miracle rogue is still better
>>
>>174046763
yeah the card pretty much actively makes your deck worse

only fun if you like playing shitty cards
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Is that me or majority of aggro decks are using the same Diablo card back?
Since the event brawl every time I see Garrosh with the diablo card back I'm like "fuck it's a PW again" and he really is a PW.
>>
>>174046776
Miracle rogue and quest rogue play very differently, miracle rogue isn't based around bounce effects and exploiting battle cries like quest rogue is and quest rogue doesn't really have an alternate win condition
>>
>>174046954
reminder if youre using a card back other than first 10 seasons, you're a fucking casul
>>
man im so happy hunter is good again and every match is just a crazed race to somehow survive where he just plays shit on curve and you pray you draw your answers

i seriously fucking hate when i actually have to think about my plays
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I missed last expansion.
How fucked am I?
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>>174047059
just play taunt warrior

same by-curve autopilot shit but your minions are simply better than his and he cant go face
>>
>>174047059
What decks are there where you have to actually think about what you play other than 10k dust pay2win fedora control?
>>
>>174047015
>tfw I have seasons 1 and 3 but not 2
Fuck, I missed the best card back ever made.
>>
>>174047107
lmao just play control warrior dude who fucking cares haha
>>
>>174047176
Quest rogue, kindaish
It's solitaire but you have to calculate the most efficient way to complete your quest without keeling over to pressure

Possibly miracle rogue but I haven't played it
>>
>>174047056
Reminder Dev Team may give a way to get old card back and so your pandaria card back wouldn't mean anything anymore and you'll have to pick heroic/event card back.
>>
>>174047450
>swashbuckler
>shadowstep
>swashbuckler
>ferry
>swashbuckler
>shadowstep
>swashbuckler
>prep quest on turn 4

wow calculations...
>>
Dust Kabal Trafficker?
>>
>freeze mage is stronger than ever before because now you cannot play around the endless freezes, blocks, secrets and burn spells they can easily generate for free
>>
>>174047015
That's what I was trying to say, though I may have phrased it badly.

Warrior quest successfully created a new deck, that actually uses the quest, and other kinds of warrior also stay viable.

Rogue quest also created a new deck type (which is built around the quest, thus it can't be removed) but is looking like it'll be poor compared to old rogue decks.

The other 7 quests were duds. On day one everyone started making quest decks, then over the next few days realized "huh, this quest deck would be better, if I took out the quest".
>>
>>174047596
Nice
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>>174047586
She's great in wild. Pulled a mal'ganis more than once
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>>174046954
I use this back for pirate warrior.
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>>174047537
And for four turns you've played two minions and done nothing for board control

And that's supposedly the absolute pinnacle of starting hands for quest rogue
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>>
After almost 3 years of hearthstone I just crafted two cards for the first time.
Rip 80 dust.
>>
>>174047619
Ah, I get you. Same thing with exodia mage, where the deck archetype is arguably new but worse than just running freeze mage.

I'm still not gonna dust my quests, because there's always the chance that some bullshit comes out next expansion that makes my kaleodosaur gimmick deck viable.
>>
>>174047801
new meme?
>>
If I wanted to make a control paladin deck, what exactly do I include as a win condition?

>>174047801
What cards?
>>
>Asked about freeze mage a couple of days ago.
>Everybody and their mother is playing it.

Guess it's back to Pirate Warrior.
>>
>>174042436
Not him but to me happened the same, get busy with some engaged girl and later pay the toll but not vause o was particularly high but just very unlucky.

What KARMA meant with this?
>>
first lego, what will it be?
>>
What the fuck is even the point of Discover Ungoro

Renounce has the potential to give you a retarded deck and blow the other guy out of the water, and everything is cheaper. Discover Ungoro is "Transform your deck into random cards: They cost (1) more).
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>>174047773
lmao
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>>174047881
I wish

>>174047926
The two hunter cats. They seem pretty good.
>>
im uninstalling
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>>174048109
Jungle "lose the game" hemet
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>>174047176
Secret Mage - you change the secrets depending on what you face, you need to know when to play what secret and why, expect the opponents next play and play around it.
Counterspell a quest, Poli a Sherizan or Sorc apprentice. When to go face and when to clear and so on.

Miracle Rogue - Gotta keep track of your deck, know how much burst you have left and play around that, save cheap spells for cycle or use them on Sherizan / Edwin.

Priest - Anything with Lyra or OTK can be super calculated, cycle with Pyro and Cleric / Acolyte, know how much you draw and which card to grab with Visions.
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>play arena
>0-0
>game goes to fatigue one of the most insane games I had it felt like 11 wins game
>barely win by 1 card no mistakes from both players

sheet
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>>174048016
>>174047596
Play Secret priest, I have 100% winrate against freeze mages and quest mages.
You just hold on to counterspells and Poli for the key cards they need to play and you ruin them.

If you have a full board just play on of the two and you stop his frost nova doomsayer.
Poli an Apprentice and he cant go infinite.
If you are lucky you can even Counter his quest and he is fucked.
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>>174047748
who cares? now by turn 5 you can fill the board with 5x 5/5 charge and just kill him
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What are the class tiers for arena? It feels to me like mage is t0 light years ahead of everything else but I don't know what else is good, feels like priest is kind of good now
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King Mosh entrance is GOD TIER
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>>174048587
I think pally is really good. Dinosize and the stegodon buff are game winners if the enemy doesnt have a 12 wins aggro deck or polymorph
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>Reminder: There is a guy here who opens 3 packs a day and still cant get 2 legendaries for a decent deck
>Reminder: If someone calls you a Blizzard Shill, ignore this person
>Reminder: Netdecking is completely fine and is a common thing in TCG
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What the fuck happened to arena?

In Gadgetzan I would get 5+ wins pretty easy. I just went 2 wins and now I'm 0-2. Mana Bind on my Freed from Amber, summons Ysera, Molen Reflection on the Ysera, and plays a Taunt to save himself from 12 face damage.

Like what the fuck happened.
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>>174049169
Don't tell anyone but the arena is rigged
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>>174049169

You played against a mage which is a t0 class
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What deck should I make? I haven't played in a long time. I basically have no Un'Goro cards and do not have one night at Karazhan.

Pic related, it's how much dust I have.
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>>174049321
The ladder is lacking quest shaman
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>>174049321
just keep playing pirate warrior
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>>174044690
Sounds like a 2 outta 2 lapdogs all of you. amirite
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>>174049321
Quest warlock
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>>174048114
That's all hearthstone is. Add random cards to your deck through discover and "build" your deck on the go
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>>174049452
This deck isn't good tho
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>>174048362
What the fuck is secret priest
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>>174049687
It's a secret.
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>>174049321
Control quest paladin
Play buffed up taunt minions, adapt galvadon to become an unkillable wall, lose because it's a terrible deck
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>ten wins

Why aren't you playing arena, bros?
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>>174049687
He meant secret mage but fucked up
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>>174049771
Because I suck

I'm playing arena though
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>>174049771
Because it's as slow as climbing the ladder.
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>>174049771
I can't get more than 7 wins
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50 pack preorder didn't get me shit

not buying any more packs

looks like it's time to dust the wild collection
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Is hunter the only class that can go legend using only class cards?
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>>174049818
But arena is fun. Unlike ladder.
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>>174049879
any half decent deck can get legend

getting legend is not some great feat of skill it's just putting in hundreds and hundreds of games

if you really want to grind your life away you could probably do it with almost any meme deck
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Is Quest Warrior fun? I have plenty of dust (1k liquid, 5k of dupes, and another 5k or so of Golden/useless shit) but I don't want to waste it. I miss the Quest, a Primordial Drake, the second Rat, and both Sleep with the Fishes.
Also I'm considering crafting the 3 epics I miss for midrange murloc paladin, Is It worth?

I already have both Miracle and Quest Rogue, mr Hunter, zoo and hand lock, Lyra Priest, elemental buff paladin, aggro druid and PW completed, before you start suggestiong other stuff.
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>>174049771

cuz im not lucky enough to get the t0 class, mage and instead i get one of the other 8 t2 classes
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>>174050004
Which of the decks that you have are most fun? I only really have the resources to make one or two interesting decks
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Hearthstone is just a video game and the cards are no different than the gears in games like Diablo. You do not spend $50 x 3 per year in Diablo.

It is sad that Blizzshills will still defend this.
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>>174050004
Quest Warrior is boring as shit. But I guess it's up to you. And you have the dust to spare.
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>>174050004
Don't fucking do it. I crafted warrior quest and regret it.

It's the most boring brainded deck imaginable. Literally just playing taunts on curve. Even Pirates are more interesting to play.
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>>174050004
I recommend crafting the Pally legendary if you want to play a control deck that is fun.
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>>174050056
The Rogues are both very fun. I have a special place in my hearth for Mr Hunter, so I like it a lot even if it's just a curve deck. Elemental buff paladin is also a blast but probably not that good. Aggro Druid is cute and pretty effective. PW is shit but it's probably the fastest way to rank up. I have yet to try Priest, I just had the stuff to put it together so it's there.
Consider that I hate control, so I don't really care about it, but Handlock is the only control deck that I enjoy.
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>>174050060
Opened pre-order and 40 packs got 7 legenderies. 2 Golden. Spent 10000 dust to craft the rest of cards I needed. Still have 25000 dust lying around.
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>>174050050
Well, while mage is good I've gone ten wins on paladin and eleven wins on shaman in the last ten days and I haven't played that many arenas. Some of the people you play at specific wins have no right to be there. For example, I had a legend cardback warlock at 5-0 not attack me with his only minion on board when I had a secret up. He proceeded to use Twisting Nether. It ended up being irrelevant two turns later, though. And you'll definitely steal a game from the odd mage who got extremely lucky with the cards he drafted, but ended up playing them poorly. This run I honestly feel like I should've lost twice post-five wins.
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>>174050056
Miracle Rogue for sure.

Quest Mage is also very fun but unfortunately not really viable if you want to win games.

Miracle Rogue best combo of fun and viable.
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>>174050193
Luckily I pulled this bad boy already
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>rogue finishes quest by turn four and you can't stop it or interact with it at all
>lose

Good design. Can't wait for another six months of this.
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>No replay system
>Can't reduce animation
>Crappy friend function
>Crappy chat function
>Can't rearrange decks
>Crashes when opening and closing
>No spectate pros function

The others are alright but the first 2 are not acceptable. You need replay to study your own moves and mistakes. In addition, you need to reduce animation for some of the decks that plays a lot of cards in one turn with slow animation like auctioneer.
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>>174050321
>It's a me! Tarim!

>Questo di pesto calzone de la mia mamma porca miseria dancing queen
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>>174050278
Miracle rogue is also pretty expensive, isn't it? Afaik they usually run vancleef and sherazin, (and the assassinate plants) and I don't have any of those. Does the deck work with a reduced list or does it need all the parts?
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wow should have played around that woops
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>>174050276

I agree but this still doesn't change the fact that if I got the chance to get mage every single time I'm pretty sure my avg winrate in arena would go up by 2. Mage is completely bonkers in arena this expansion.
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Today is the day MTG finally steps up to the plate. You guys are going to the Magic open house, right?
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>>174050403
The epic assassinate plants and Sherazin are must haves, yes.

You could play without them but it would be a much inferior version.

The best feeling with Miracle Rogue is going off with Auctioneer while also reviving your dormant Sherazin. It's great.
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I had purchased at least $100 worth of every set up to this point but I have made the decision to stop spending any money on this game until blizzard makes some massive changes. The cost is insane at this point and what do we get for it?
They want to price it like it's a tcg but it's obviously not. If you spend hundreds on booster boxes of magic your financial expected value is usually pretty close to break even. Hearthstone you can never cash out so you are losing whatever you put into it forever. That would be fine if we were talking about $20-$50 every 4 months to stay current. But hearthstone has become more like $150- $200 every 4 months. This is absurd for a game with no secondary market.
And at the end of the day have they re-invested that money into the game? Fuck no they haven't. How is there still no tournament mode after over 3 years? You wanna increase revenue blizzard? How about you put something new in the game! $5 sit in go for packs, drafts, tons of cool shit they could do to increase revenue and they choose to increase prices on the same shit we have had for the entire time? Fuck you blizzard!
Also worth mentioning that unlike the games they want to compare their pricing model with they have no overhead in terms of physical product. Every dollar you pay for hearthstone goes directly to them. I'm sure wotc does very well on mtg boxes but they definitely don't have a 100% profit on every box.
The way blizzard has handled hearthstone the last 2 years wreaks of greed and I for one am done giving them my money. Raising prices after giving us nothing new is just a giant middle finger to the players.
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>>174050193
Are there non-nzoth control paladins?
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>>174050443
Well shit. I'll just craft preparations for the quest which I got lucky and pulled, I guess
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I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again: The primary reasons why everyone is now talking about why this game is so expensive is (in order of significance)

>The removal of Adventures, which acted as a buffer between expansions to allow players to collect gold
>The reduced prominence of powerful neutral staples (Dr. Boom, Sylvanas, Ragnaros)
>The increased quantity of quality legendary cards
>Legendary cards shifting from being generically powerful cards to being essential for certain deck archetypes (you used to be able to substitute a Tirion or a Grommash for Ragnaros in control decks, how do you substitute the Rogue or mage legendary quest?)
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Anybody got a good tempo mage list?
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>>174050586

To add on what you've said:

>A lot of strength is in Class Epics and Legendaries.

Both extremely rare to get, and extremely expesive to craft. The Class aspect, just like the Quests, makes it so the price to maintain several competitive decks is extremely high.

>The new expansion appears to powercreep on the previous ones pretty hard (Quests, mostly), forcing people to purchase new stuff to compete.
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>>174050450
Something like this would work

http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilder/paladin#23:2;25:2;260:2;293:2;383:2;391:1;428:2;467:2;602:1;33126:1;33147:1;42019:2;49633:1;55451:1;55462:1;55479:2;55516:2;55529:2;55533:1;
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I have already read those copy pasted comments X))
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>>174050641
Why are you reposting shit from plebbit?
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I personally want to see the return of Adventures. They were the best value in Hearthstone. Everyone got the same cards, and a guaranteed draw for their 25$. Plus they had personality. It was something unique to Hearthsone.
If I buy the equivalent $25 worth of packs, I’m getting maybe 1 legendary, a bunch of duplicates, and possibly none of the things I need to have a competitive deck.
I was really worried after the Blizzard purchase of King (maker of Candy Crush) for several billion dollars that it would come with an increased monetization push from Blizzard corporate. If this game becomes more of a treadmill, it’s going to risk alienating the player base.
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>>174050641
>>The new expansion appears to powercreep on the previous ones pretty hard (Quests, mostly), forcing people to purchase new stuff to compete.

It's as if Hearthstone was part of a business and that selling new products to replace the former ones was their business model or something
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>>174050446
>I have purchased at least $100 worth of every set

One of the most important aspects of rhetorical speech is the ethos, or ethical standing, of a speaker. For a message to get across, the audience must trust the speaker, and this can come in many ways. Perhaps the speaker is wise, perhaps experienced, or maybe they're simply people of high morals. In any case, your opening statement deprives your own argument of any sense of ethos. You're a fucking imbecile, and the fact that you're only realizing what a waste of money and life this game is at the eleventh hour is incredible. You're not saying anything new, you're eating a shit out of a toilet and finding it surprising that you're now dying of sepsis and dysentery.
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>There are people here who think quests are good
>Besides one, maybe two quests, they are all shit
>u shal no pass!
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I would support daily login rewards. Better login rewards the more you log consecutively.
The quests are already something, so they could complement each other, log in, get your log in reward, then play the game to get the quest reward.
Another idea: some day in the month you can make creature cards up to epic disenchant for full price, then another day spells, and so on...
The game is digital so the possibilities are endless.
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>>174050278
>Quest Mage is also very fun but unfortunately not really viable
>quest rogue
>not viable

?????????
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>>174050827
Read the post again dummy
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>>174050827

>Reading comprehension

Someday you may realise that you are an imbecile.
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>goyim think blizzard will ever change this game when its still printing cash at light-speed
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>>174050851
no you

it's obviously a mistyped error
explain to me how is quest mage not viable, when pro players play it in competitive envoirement
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>>174050882
They play freeze mage, not quest mage.
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>>174050915
im pretty sure when quest is in the deck its called a quest mage
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>>174050446

Long time f2p player. Started when naxx was released. I played religiously everyday and I rerolled quests. I used to be able to get by because adventures were amazing value. Saved 7000 gold for ungoro expansion. Opened 3 legs. Can't afford to build new decks and I'm sick of playing cheap aggro decks to farm more gold. Enough is enough. I finally quit.
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>>174050959
disenchant wild cards
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>>174050992
>disenchant wild cards

You're retarded.
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Un'Goro made MSoG almost completely obsolete. The only legendary that still see play in a meta deck is Patches, maybe we can count Finja in Aggro Druid and Wickerflame in paladin.
As far as other cards go, on top of my head only rats, rat packs and sleep with the Fishes are seeing play right now.
holy shit I regret crafting Kazakus, what was I thinking
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>>174051020
>He keeps wild cards to play a shitty format

Oh, boy.
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Many anons correctly mentioned 2 fundamental points.

>The sources of the problem is that the economy of the game was made for vanilla.
>The new expansion has many more viable legendaries and epics.

The second point I actually thing is a good thing and I would like Blizzard to continue doing this in the future. I hate it when a cool card comes out (like say Major Domo) but it is just too weak to be played, so I can't enjoy it.
Therefore I believe the solution should revolve around the first point - the economy. Many good points have been raised in that direction. However, I think most of them are not broad and encompassing enough. One that I haven't seen so far, is increasing epic and legendary drop rates in packs significantly (by 100% for example). It is just too common to open 5 x 40 dust packs in a row. I think this will be a very elegant solution that will address both F2P and paying players.
Alternatively, they can make make packs cheaper, but if they do that, they have to make it both for F2P and both for paying customers. And again I think a drastic change is needed, like cutting down cost in half. Anyone saying this isn't reasonable, just think of what little % of the expansion you are getting now for 50$, maybe 10-20%. Kripp paid 1000$ and still didn't get all of it, so I think the spot that we are at now is so extreme that cutting prices in half is very reasonable.
As a retroactive solution for Unguro I think they should give all players one free quest card [Edit: that they don't already own], and another one [Edit: that they don't already own] upon opening your 50th Unguro pack (obviously if you already opened 50 packs you would get this immediately). Edit: note this will still leave you with 21 legendaries to collect, not less than any previous set.
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>>174051020

>Playing wild

Who the fuck cares about your non-existent mode
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>>174050959
>Cant afford to build new decks
Nigga what? Im a F2P as well and played much less than you, you can play Secret Mage, OTK Priest with Stormwind, you can play Miracle Rogue without Sherizan, Taunt warrior is just 1 Quest and Brawls, Aggro Druid and a ton of other new shit no one found out yet.

This expansion actually has a ton of archetypes that are viable, and most quests suck so the expensive quest decks aren't needed.
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>Reached rank 10 for the first time
We did it reddit
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>Watch Reynads 15 hour stream
>Literally hardstuck at rank 10
Wait I thought he was supposed to be good at this game?
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>>174050959

Should I post my stats as a f2p player who plays since release and did the majority of dailies even if there was some months where I didn't touch the game at all? I never invested a cent into the game, I used gold to buy adventures too. Might be too long of a post tho. I have a txt with how many cards I'm missing and shit like a turbonerd
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>>174020460
>Scrub mentality
There is nothing wrong with not playing a deck because it's clearly overpowered and easy to win with, the only scrubs are the netdecking shitters who only win despite their misplays simply because their deck is on a higher power level.
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>>174051115
>This expansion actually has a ton of archetypes that are viable,
>Talking about viability when the expansion isn't even a month old
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>>174050446
like the other anone said, you discredited your entire post with first TEN words

ten words into your post I am able to brand you as a worthless mouthbreather and decide not to read any further

get fucked
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I'm a MTG player. I've been playing for years. It's a game that I actually haven't spent a ton of money on since It's easy to trade around for what I need at any given point in the meta. If a new badass card that you want to build something around releases in the next set, there are always people willing to trade for you current set stuff you aren't using anymore.
In MTG you can also experiment by proxying cards and playing casually with friends. Proxy allows you to find things that people might not have seen yet, and we created some crazy unexpected decks at local tournaments that flattened the meta. You rarely see this in HS, as only the people who have either invested stupid amounts into it or play a crazy amount have access to the entire current library to experiment.
If you want to try an idea it's a huge investment to get the cards for it. The few ideas I had would have taken a month-4 months to farm the cards for. This means it's really only worth the time to go for meta legendaries and already proven decks, many of which cost a ton of dust. With new sets releasing rapidly and no way to trade for new cards, it's impossible to keep up without dropping loads of money or playing it 24/7 like some of the streamers.
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>>174051172
This is the textbook definition of scrub mentality. Self imposing imaginary rules and codes of honor and playing inferior stuff, belittling the ones who use all the legit tools that are in the game.
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I was fine with it when it was xpac - adventure - xpac
But back to back expansions? it's crippling
The saddest thing is you dont even get to be excited about golden pulls when they do happen once in a blue moon, since if youre not d/eing that shit you wont get anywhere

>>174051169

Compile them and post.
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>>174051289
sounds like you're latching on to a descriptive buzzword to defend your behavior of adhering to a not-balanced game, you have the scrub mentality by allowing there to be clear inferior tools in the game
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As an ancient Magic The Gathering player (with real cards) I was blown away when I first discovered Hearthstone and I paid my share (about $200) to be able to have enough cards to play around. That was one and half year ago and I continue to play the game every day since then.
As I am not earning that kinda money to spend hundreds of dollars constantly for a game and seeing also that Blizzard is constantly trying to push you to buy (expansive packs, high crafting costs) I decided not to spend anymore money on it.

And now with this latest expansion and the ones to come (3 a year I guess) I understood that I can't keep up anymore with the game's ever-expanding collection. So why bother? That simply results in looking for alternatives so I noticed that lately I've been playing Eternal (card game) more than Hearthstone. I am not going to promote some other game in another game's thread but Blizzard can definitely borrow some ideas from them on how to be generous with your clients/player-base.

That's my 2 cents on the issue and forgive my English, not a native here...
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>>174051354
Read this if you have the time
http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win
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>>174051354

are you fucking serious?
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Is aggro rouge carrying fok?
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>>174051279
Im not sure if you actually play MtG, because you have to spend an insane amount of money to get the "full library". And MtG has waaaay more filler cards.
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I opened 81 un'goro packs on the first day of the expansion and now I've been able to another 9 packs since then. So 90 un'goro packs total and I got 3 legendaries (2x of them were warlock legendaries).
It just feels really shitty after all the time and investment I've put into the game. My RNG sucks in packs and in any deck I play. FeelsBadMan.
I've spent around $200 lifetime on HS and I think I've reached the endpoint of investing anymore money into the game. I'm just going the F2P route and only playing meta decks to save on dust costs.
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>>174051419

Not him, but what is this about ?
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Stop copy pasting reddit threads
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>it turns out to be just some dickwad posting pastas
>anons actually responded seriously to it
>so did I

f-fuck...
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>>174051540

Took you long enough.

Also,

>I spent $100 on ungoro, and I got 2 quests and 1 other legendary. I have enough dust to build a full deck of my choosing. It really feels like its a "pay to compete" game.

Legendaries and epics mean too fucking much to have such a low drop rate and such a high cost. Is there a single common/rare deck that can handle a quest deck thats not a direct counter? If you want a "can handle almost any situation" deck, you need the dust to do it. That means $$$$$. I wish you could just pay for a full drop of a single class, that way you could at least reliably compete with one.
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>>174051045
Gadgetzan Ferryman, alley armorsmith, mark of the lotus, celestial dreamer, alleycat, grimscale chum, potion of madness, kabal talonpriest, drakonid operative, dragonfire potion, counterfeit coin, call in the finishers, mistress of mixtures and maybe jade lightning are still relevant too though
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>>174051419
so a 'scrub' is someone who points out clearly imbalanced tactics in a game?

>>174051449
Nice rebuttal champ
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This is a subject I've touched on many times. There's a few additional key points I'd like to mark for this thread:

>Hearthstone is a constantly evolving game.
The rate at which the meta is refined increases each expansion release, people get better and better at finding the good and bad decks. This also means bad cards are far more quickly identified and packs quickly lose "value" due to bad cards just not being playable in constructed's competitive matchmaking. With other words, it's become real easy to open a pack and get nothing but "trash."

>The content you get isn't worth the price anymore.
A lot of people have been comparing the identical price of a Hearthstone pre-order to a fully-fleshed out game like the Witcher 3. And it's not that the pre-order prices have changed, but that the content of the packs dwindles faster with each expansions as explained above. So even if other card games manage to pull off higher prices, Blizzard still has to deal with the reality that a product sold in that price range has a higher expectancy of its lasting value.

>Team 5 shot themselves in the foot with the legendary = unique mechanic.
It's fairly obvious that they have been using the legendary "one card deck restriction" as a mechanic for card design. E.g. it would have been impossible to print a card like Patches if you could run two copies. This has only become more problematic with quests, where you now have a ton of deck-defining cards that are all legendary just for the sake of restricting the number of copies you can put into your deck.

But, most importantly:
>People are saying they want cheaper packs because they actually would want to buy more packs then.
Like, that's the bottom line. I think most fans has fond memories of opening lots of Hearthstone packs and enjoying it. And they would likely be able to continue doing so if they didn't feel like they were vastly overpaying for the product nowadays.
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Game got so much better with the rotation
Maybe LoE was was the cancer all along
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>>174051165
Nah he got lucky and made a decent agro shaman when everyone thought shaman was bad and it made him enough to pay people who are actually good to create content for him
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>>174051654
No. A "Scrub" is someone, who finds always an excuse for losing, by calling certain playstyles "cheap".
I've played SC2 for a long time and i was cheesing the shit out of lower rank players. Mainly tower into portal rush with Protoss. It was fairly easy and granted me free wins. You would call it "cheap" or "honorless" or whatever word comes to your mind.
It was fairly easy to counter and to avoid, because, just like 6-pool rush with zergs, it was an all in tactic.
Instead of countering this easy tactic, Scrubs give themselves up and call it "a cheap tactic".

Since you dont understand that, you are a scrub.
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>>174051607
>Is there a single common/rare deck that can handle a quest deck
Face/midrange hunter rips every quest in half and it doesn't have epics/legos
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>>174051763

Reno was the cancer. It causes the game to be either:

>End before turn 6
or
>A 30 minutes grind fest with everyone constantly healing until fatigue

Neither of this is fun.
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>>174051878
t. aggroshitter
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>>174051878
This
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>>174051915

I play renolock myself and absolutely hated the mirror match.
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>>174051878
Or running some huge damage from hand combo. It feels almost unreal that now I can just beat down the opponents over the course of the game.
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>play Dark Iron Arena on Heroic
>plays Cho on turn 2 every single time
>find a deck that cheeses him with infinite Cho Frost Novas
>not a single fucking Cho
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>>174051806
So you're imposing a person onto me then rebuking that person? Nice arguing scrub.
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>>174051169

Ok so according to my calculations, the full cost of all the cards in dust (not counting adventures, but counting naxx since you can craft those now) is 448320 dust. Feel free to double check if that's right, I couldn't find any resource with this information anywhere.

I'm missing 164200 dust to have full collection, 6400dust from classic (missing 4 legendaries), 18400dust from GVG, 33600dust from TGT, 20000dust from WTOG, 36400dust from MSOG and 51600dust from UNG. You can guess that I didn't play much around TGT and MSOG and played a lot during WTOG.

Usually I blow all my gold in arenas but sometimes if I'm doing good and I have like 500gold extra I'll spend a little in packs. I never save up for expansions, I just keep playing arena all the time. Usually I can get to rank5 no problem and only got to legend once but I find the grinding to be tedious as fuck and if you take a look at the rewards it's like 50 more dust or something so... whatever. I don't do it all the time since it's easy to get bored with the game when you play for this long, for example right before UNG I only got to rank10 cuz I played ladder literally for just 1 day as I was trying to get into the game before UNG hit. I have 17400dust saved up, but I had over 20k before UNG, I just blew like 5k dust crafting elemental shaman and quest rogue cuz I wanted to play some new stuff. If you want to maximize your gains you should obviously never craft anything or keep that spending at a minimum.

So I guess I have 64% of the collection dustwise, but in terms of cards I haven't really bothered to do all the math yet, if my notes here are correct the whole game has 1824 cards (this is counting 2 of each for C R and E rarity) and I should have around 1400 or something so I have around 75% of full collection cardwise.

I never spent one cent in the game but I did spend more time than I would care to admit.

I'm just sharing this because well... because. I still think Blizz are jews
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>>174051878
Reno was much different when he was first released
Let's remember
Renodecks grew in power each expansion, and Kazakus was their peak
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>>174051842
It has Rat Packs, but they're not really super mandatory, just good.
>>174051878
This is the correct answer
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>>174051806
This is a cheap tactic though and everyone above gold would've crushed you. Just because you can beat shitters that don't even use hotkeys doesn't mean you're not a scrub
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>>174051707
>This also means bad cards are far more quickly identified
Somebody post reddit predictions about the quests
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>>174051957
the mirror was only cancer because of the retarded combo
leeroy is and always has been the most cancerous card in the game
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>>174052013

Indeed they are.

I personally am quite comfortable with my NA collection but has a huge problem with my EU and Asia collection. I am quitting those 2 servers since I don't have enough time anymore.
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Is the Jade Druid cancer dead now?
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>>174051986
It's a good feeling knowing that your opponent can't recover from hero powering for the first 5 turns
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>>174052003

Thanks, you too.

>>174052042

It rarely worked above Gold, but i never did it there to be honest.
The fun part was the comeback, when someone actually countered the tactic, which was pretty uncommon in the early stages of the game.
I wouldnt call the tactic cheap, i just felt bad for newer players.
Its like running an aggro deck. Not cheap, just time efficient.
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>>174051986
Feels good man

>>174052036
It also is able to run 2 copies of the hunter class legendary, highmane
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>>174051990
Isn't the heroic IA reworked? Like the taunt glitch with Kel'thuzad is fixed and Cho seems to not give you again what you really want.
(I still don't know if they fixed the Nozdormu 4s turn issue)
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>>174052170

Tbh I only enter the 2 other servers to try to reroll for the 80g quest and see if I can trade it between regions, but I always keep forgetting to do that and I never actually even got the quest on one of the other 2 servers. Not even sure if people have the brain capacity to do that trade since I've never seen anyone try it.
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>>174034067
I have no excuses. That day I just opened my boosters and crafted things without checking initial impressions. First and last time that that will ever happen. And yeah, I should have had crafted tirion a long time ago.
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>>174052416
Maybe. I tried again after remembering I had a Cho of my own, but then he didn't freeze my board and just skipped a turn. Maybe because it only had Cho on it.
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>>174052290
The Problem with cheese is that it is a lot harder to counter than to execute. If you win because of it someone could get the feeling that you're a more skilled player because you win more but still have major problems with basic game mechanics.
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>>174052419
>80g quest and see if I can trade it between regions

No it can't. It is quite obvious actually. I have irl friends playing from different servers. The quest stays in server and cannot play across servers.
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>>174052536

No I mean I give you my NA 80g quest on your main and then you give me your EU 80g quest on my main.
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>>174052240
They're still existing in wild because they have a better winrate since you can find everything and they think the deck is useless without Brann (you never needed him in jade druid tho). In standard they just die by everything (especially when half of the meta is aggro), even Exodia mage so they're just fucked.
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>>174052645

Ah I see. But few people are retarded enough to have alt account across servers except for both of us. So it can work but very hard.
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>Garrosh
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>>174052724

I want to see an expansion where warrior is in the dumpster like hunter was last expansion.
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>>174052712

Yea I've never seen anyone do it but should be a nice gold income if you bother to lose 5min doing that
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>>174052507
I agree with you and my example was probably pretty poor. It was just to show, that tactics that net you free wins are frowned upon by scrubs and called "cheap", instead of finding a way to counter it.
As written in the article, there is no "honor" in videogames, if you actually play to win.
I switched from cheese/rush to a different tactic the moment, it wasnt giving me an advantage anymore. I was playing to win :p

HS is a play for fun game for me, so i can't really related to all the whining that is going on in the community.
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>>174052818
Un'goro has been a very fun experience so far but now I'm quitting already. There is just no reliable way of getting specific cards that you want to play. I've bought packs and had fun with rogue and priest quest and now what? What do I do if I really would really like to try the warrior quest? There isn't a feasible way to get the cards that you want other then haphazardly blowing money on packs hoping to get lucky. Usually in shopping it's beneficial to have a clear picture of what you desire but in Hearthstone its the opposite.
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>>174052818
Got you
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The new Hemet is autodust,right?
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I was F2P all the time, but when I heard about Un'Goro coming out I stopped playing altogether.
My main goal was always to collect every card in the game, but I just eventually realized that that'd be almost impossible even if I bought a pack a day (which I did do most of the time)
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Is anyone else upset at the distribution of cards in this set?

I opened 60 packs and I didnt even get 2 of each common. I actually had to craft common cards.

Also everyone remember how they increased the price of purchasing packs right before this expansion? Blizzard wanted it to be this hard to get all the legendaries and complete the set. So I dont think they are inclined to change the quest mechanic to be more affordable or obtainable.
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blizzard shold've hall of fame'd ice block instead of ice lance
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I feel like it's safe to say that the real core of the complaint here is that experimentation is FAR FAR too punishing. In a game like MTG, I can build a deck and play it for a while. And if I get bored or want to try something new, I can trade off that deck to obtain the cards for a new one and not have to spend a fortune. Hearthstone does not let me trade in any fashion other than disenchanting, and the return rate on that is so damn absurd it feels like its not even an option. Dusting feels like it is only for duplicates. It doesn't serve as a trade mechanism in the slightest. So if I want to experiment with new cards, I MUST fork over wads of cash. Big wads. Around $70 for 2 legendaries after dusting all 60 packs worth of cards.
Basically each deck archetype this expac that takes 2 new legendaries costs roughly $70 to play. Assuming you don't actually pull them from a pack. (the assumption I've learned to run under.) Mind you I don't mind paying to play. But 70$ per idea for a deck? Talk about steep.
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what sort of fucking turbo autist do you have to be to play quest warrior?
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>>174053015

Wait for the meta to evolve a bit. I could see it in some mid range decks coming up in the next weeks.

Dust it if you abs. need to right now.
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>>174053160

They should hall of fame Mage and introduce Death Knight
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>>174053341
>actual midrange
>in a game where a 3 mana flamestrike exists coupled with brawl and a big drake that drops a blizzard
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>>174051474
I also opened 80 packs and had 5 legendaries in them (one was a dupe, one was golden). Then I opened 15 more and got another golden. It's OK.
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For a second no shitposting please.

If blizzard releases 3 sets a year, introducing new mechanics that make old mechanics obsolete how will the playerbase keep up with the crafting costs for new legendary cards that almost everytime have overpowered unique card texts regarding the game mechanic?
Look at kazakus or aya. They lasted for 6 months and are almost completely useless now.
If you get 50 gold a day you will get a free pack every 2 days.
You would need to grind 160 days for only 2 legendaries that are usable for 130 days.

This could be a problem in the future.
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/svg/ is laughing at us again bros ... this can't be happening!!
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What would you pick?
(You)
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>>174053553

Well Kazakus and Aya aren't useless, for one thing. You can use Kazakus in Wild still, or quest Priest.

Powercreep will happen and there's not much to be done about it. I think the game will be dead soon anyway so it's not a huge problem.
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>>174053690
N Z O T H
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>>174053690

>shit
>shit
>among the very best legos

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>174026058
2x fiery bat
2x jeweled macaw
2x alley cat
1x gastropod
2x kindly grandmother
2x eaglehorn bow
2x kill command
2x hyena
2x unleash the hounds
2x houndmaster
2x deadly shot
1x timber wolf
1x cult master
some iterations are running cache, but it sucks
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>>174053626
im laughing even harder
>euro truck simulator has more viewers
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>>174053690

They are all shit. I would pick nzoth since it's early in the draft and you might get DRs. If it was late in the draft I would probably take Moroes. They're all shit tho.
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>>174053762
How is this any different from face hunter
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>>174048187
give me your account then
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>>174053553
Aya is ok in elemental shaman

>>174053690
Nzoth
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>>174053626

I can't even imagine this happening when they only have 2 classes that are playable current expansion. But now it seems like Blizzard fucked up royally this time with their "experimentation of pack price".
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>get double clutchmother and shanan quest
Fuck you blizzard
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>>174053762
>>174053798
That is face hunter, not midrange
midrange is pic related but you can mess with this list a lot
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>>174053798
houndmaster, also, i forgot to put that 2/6 taunt.
also, it's not timber wolf, it's dire wolf alfa
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Has anyone mentioned how Magic: Duels does their packs? Seems to me the best way across any digital card game. When you get a card from a pack, it is added to your collection. You can only have a certain number of any rarity of card in your collection. Once you reach that limit for a certain card, you will never see that card in a pack again. You never get duplicates after that. The trade off here being that in Duels, you cannot disenchant or craft cards. But this, to me, seems fair. Considering that with this system, there is a set limit of packs you have to earn or buy. Once you reach that limit you have the full set. This makes the game more about "Playing the game for fun and to open packs" rather than "Buying packs to be able to play the game and have fun".
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>>174053690
> Not being sure between 2 shitty legos and a god-tier lego
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>>174053726
>>174053730
>>174053772

got exactly 1 deathrattle minion that is mistress of mixtures so fuck me
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>mulligan for quest rogue
>its a miracle
>he doesnt even play swashbuckler and kills me turn 5 with 12/12 edwin

wow I love this Crawler meme
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>>174053942
It's ok but being unable to craft is a double edged sword. Really I prefer the freedom of disenchanting and crafting but packs individually need to have higher value and there needs to be safeguards preventing or softening the blow of getting high rarity duplicates you can't use. One way is putting dup timers on legendaries so if you open deathwing you can't open him again until you open 3 other legendaries. I could also see a system that duplicate legendaries give the full dust value.
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You told me taunt warrior beat pirate warrior.

Why did you lie to me?
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I don't know if I'm cancer or just having fun.
winrate vs warrior is shit
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>>174054324
My dogfu isnt lewd
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>>174054394
get good scrub
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>>174053553
Back when people fully solved the Gadgetzan meta it was obvious that there were a total of 4 legendaries worth crafting in the following order:

Patches
Finja
Aya
Kazakus

Everybody knew that Kazakus would not see play after Reno rotates. Patches sees the most play in several decks across many classes. Finja pretty much the same to a lesser extent. Aya was only important in Jade Druid and Jade Shaman, but while the latter barely exists anymore the former plays her all the same. The point is that there were very few "must have" legendaries and they were all neutral.

The problem with this expansion is that they made all (viable) archetypes based around class legendaries and quests which along with the lack of good neutrals is what makes Un'Goro much more expensive than Gadgetzan. I don't think this'll be as much of an issue next set if they go back to releasing only one class legendary and mostly do neutrals.
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>>174053826
LUL
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Arena class tier:

T0: mage
T2: rogue
T3: hunter, paladin, priest, warlock
T4: shaman, druid
T10: warrior
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>>174054394
It does
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How can I rekt hunters?
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>>174054483
DELETE THIS
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:DD :DDDD
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Will Eater of secrets and dirty rat rotating out make Exodia mage tier 0?
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>>174020129
At least you are not playing SV. Literally 2 deck meta, with the previous T1s struggling to keep being usable
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>>174054482
Makes sense
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>>174054621
based cunny poster
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>>174054643
> Eater of secrets
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>>174054483
WHY IS QUEST SHAMAN BELOW TIER 5 HOLY WRATH PALADIN REEEE
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Is this workable at ALL?
Just seems so slow to me, not confident there's a way to pack a deck with rattles to get the bitch out before aggro kills you AND smash a Rogue's face before their 5/5s are smashing yours
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>>174054529
immidiately remove both turn 1 cats
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>>174048187
>He doesn't like N'Zoth Mage.

Ok, buddy.
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>>174054483
8/9 classes tier 1&2
only class that isn't tier1&2 (shaman) has 3 decks in tier 3

why the FUCK are you guys complaining
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Can someone explain why quest Mage is not considered to be OP? I really want to try it but unfortunately I only spent $100 so I have around 20% of the expansion.

>two Frost Novas (+ Doomsayers)
>two Ice Blocks
>two Blizzards
>Primordial Glyph is fucking cancer (effectively a 0 mana card that lets you choose between 3 spells)
>Primordial Glyph > Primordial Glyph > Cabalist's Tome > Cabalist's Tome > Primordial Glyph is not a fucking joke.

It's so fucking frustrating to play against, why is it not bitched about more?
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>come back after half a year
>get the "return to hs" quest that gives you free classic packs
>get milhouse and illidan
i'm home
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>>174054851
It's playable in wild, even in a Raza/Reno/Kazakus version. In standard it's utterly trash.
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>>174054987
because the combo requires a lot of fucking cards

you need 2x apprentice 2x reflection + anton

that's 5 cards that you can never use during the game

it's inconsistent as fuck if you draw your combo pieces too early you're fucked

imagine playing a 30 card deck except 5 are unplayable cards so really you're playing a 25 card deck praying not to draw the unplayable ones
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>>174054987
too slow
the best freeze mage doesn't even play quest
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>>174054987
Hunter is with 8 dmg on the board by turn 3 and deadly shots your doomsayer.
Mage is in range of lethal by turn 5 and dies to rhino charges, hounds, weapons, kill command and the heropower even if you keep frost novaing
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>>174054851
Depends on what rank you are playing. It worked for me from 20 to 10. Stopped playing there.
Annoy-O-Priest is my new deck to punish aggro players.
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>>174054987
Because it's slow. You do nothing for most of the game and then either win because you have the cards, or lose.

If you want to play a 'combo' deck of this kind - Caverns just works better. Since you have way more paths to victory. Quest mage only works really well if you get 'spell cycle' (if you want to call it that) off of other spell cycle.

Just play any other deck literally, and you win. Unless you have no win condition, like a Taunt Warrior who decided not to keep quest in the mull or something.
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https://hsreplay.net/cards/#gameType=ARENA&set=UNGORO&sortBy=playedWinrate

Paladin has 3 cards in the top 5 of best winrate in arena

Time to pick paladino
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>>174054984

In shadowverse all the classes are in tier 1 and tier 2. It doesn't mean shit if your class is not in tier 1.
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>make strictly anti-pirate deck
>suddenly all pirates disappear
It's been like 15 games conceded now, why blizzard
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>>174055196
>Weeabooverse

No, thanks.
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>>174054987
Because you didn't try it and so you didn't realize how slow and randomly is this thing while you died by turn 6 (or 7 because of ice barrier/bloc)
I NEVER saw any exodia doing the combo properly, everytime I see "le panic rng play" with triggering the combo when quest isn't done yet and try to complete it as fast as they can in the same turn but everytime they end up with 5 spells/6, 4 apprentice on the board, and if you don't have lethal you just kill the exodia pieces. And your opponent will probably concede.
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>>174055292
FAVAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>174055292
would breed
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>>174055252
*Cunnyverse
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>>174055095
Fuck Archmage Antonidas, you can use Arcane Giants and Molten Reflection to create 2-4 8-damage minions (with charge).

With Frost Novas + Blizzards + Ice Blocks you can stall for 6 turns. All you need is card draw to dig through your entire deck.
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>>174055310
As another point to add to the discussion - TAUNT WARRIOR WITH DIRTY RAT EXISTS
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This doesn't fucking make sense. Her entire hand is randomly generated mage cards, there's no skill, and there's no counterplay. I have no idea what spells she has, she had no idea what spells she could get, mage is completely rng with all of these new random spell effects
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>Reminder to ignore no anyone who posts anime
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>>174055427
Except that's not a guaranteed win. You get fucked by taunts
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>>174055493

In arena? But it's not entirely random if it's discover a card, you can discover whatever is best
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>>174055493

>Between winning and losing is a few coin flips away

Just what team 5 wanted. Everything working as intended.
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>blizz hates combo (apparently)
>rogue quest takes you from 30 to 0 on turn 6
What did they mean by this?
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>>174055501
but I'm thirsty for anime gf
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>>174055714
>Blizzard does not want Combos in the Basic set
>They dont dislike Combos
>They just want to be able to rotate them out after a certain time

Really makes you think..
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>>174055714
They underestimated how easy it is to do the quest
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>>174055714
We hate combo but we can't design games properly.
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>>174055880
Should have been 'return X minions to your hand' instead. Then it could have been balanced to take the same time as other quests to complete
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I am so fucking sick of shitty fucking quest rogues.
Which fucking IDIOT thought it would be a good idea to let people have 20 PERMANENT, UNALTERABLE damage on the board by turn 4 with literally no way of stopping it happening?
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>>174055880
>They laughed at me when I printed Ferryman
>They won't be laughing at me when I print
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I'm so glad they implemented the rank barriers.
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>>174055968
To be honest, 5 play minions would make a huge difference
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>>174055974
t. Control cuck
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>>174056030
>so many play that just blow him out
LMAO
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>>174055714
they are fucking retards

the fucking lead game designer or whatever the fuck he is said the priest legendary would be OP

they have no fucking clue what they're doing

i would be a million dollars they haven't got the slightest clue how the meta will shape up or how good cards are before release
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>>174055602
>>174055604
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Is Cairne even a good card still? He used to be an essential craft and now I never see it at all.
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>>174056030
if u didn't play armorsmith ur bad
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>>174056030
>unironically playing quest warrior

you are a bigger faggot than the aggro shitter

pirate warrior actually takes more brainpower than quest warrior
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>>174056119
the "value" game ended long ago
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>>174056119
Highmane without beast tag and less damage
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>>174056119
cairne was never good

it was just dumb people falling for the "value" meme back in beta because they had no clue how to build decks

the 4 mana slot is the absolute max where a card can get away with just raw stats

from 5 mana and up it has to have a broken effect to be playable, stats don't cut it
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>>174056119
thats because good stats without any added effect is useless in current meta and has been for a long time, he was a niche pick in Nzoth decks for a little while though
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>>174056172
>quest
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>>174056119
Good in niche deathrattle Priest/Hunter. Especially with Umbra and the improved 3 Mana Hunter card that triggers Deathrattle.
Or you could just play Highmane.
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Is it really worth running patches in miracle rogue when the only pirate they run is swashburglar?
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I'm the undisputed master of RNG.
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>>174056598
no

i'd add shaku instead
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When will Brode finally buff the fucking legendary/epic cards nobody uses? (Millhouse, Cho, Illidan etc.)

What's even the point of an online card game, if you don't take advantage of it and balance at least one every 6 month?!
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>>174056598
Yes. Patches is broken.
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>>174056612
What did you expect to get? There is no chance to get a card better than that.
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>>174040564
This shit is why I wish we could trade cards. I have so much shit I do not want and other people do. And there is so much that I don't have that I need.
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>>174056598

What card would you drop for Patches?
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>>174041101
Why would you ever delete anyone?
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>>174056689
Dust refunds were a mistake, it completely shuts down balancing
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>>174041101
The game is about playing the game, not farming gold to farm more gold. Try Diablo 3.
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>cruise up to rank 10 with midrange hunter
>change card back
>can't win any more

RIGGED
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>>174056947
You have reached your skill ceiling.
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>>174057052

I could probably get to rank 5 if I had the right card back.
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>>174056731
Anything else than a card that instaloses to Volcano.
By the way I got the Hydra from MC Tech.
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>>174057157
use the legend one it gives rng boost when playing aggro
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>>174056947

Midrange hunter is maximum comfy tier right now.
Too bad leddits going to be all over it soon.
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>>174056689
> playable Illidan
You can only dream.
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>>174057173
Is Volcano a common card in Arena? I haven't really been playing arena since the new expansion.
There are more bad 6 drops than good ones. I would never recommend to reroll a 5 drop. But Volcano makes a good case.
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>absolutely cruising vs pirate warrior with my anti-pirates shitdeck
>suddenly

what the fuck
quite the tech choice
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>>174056689
>blizzard balancing filler cards

why would they? the entire point of them existing is for you not to get a playable card and to dust them
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I crafted the Druid Quest; AMA!
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>>174057503
You sure it wasn't some weird ass dragon aggro variant? I remember seeing those pre-expansion but I'm not sure how many of its vital cards stayed after the rotation.

>>174057530
Please just tell me if you have fun. I want to have fun....
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are there any global games today
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>>174057730
>I want to have fun....
play cunnyverse
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>>174057883

next week
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>>174057258
>not Paladin
THIS THREAD BELONGS TO THE TITANS
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>>174057971
Fuck off.
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>>174057730
It was 100% Pirate Warrior. Might have also played a Frothing. Guess he feels it's worth having a potential win out of nowhere against a potentially deck drop.
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>>174058040
you do it fag
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>>174057401
Well it's a rare card that is autopick. It's also a class card and a recent expansion card so it's got an insane appearance bonus right now. They also recently made rare and higher cards more likely to be drafted, as well as buffed spell appearance rate.
So yeah it's pretty fucking common.
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>>174058117
*dead
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>>174057971
>all classes are quest rogue tier cheese cancer
No thanks
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>>174057730
I have fun. I also got the 12/12 cant be targeted legendary from packs.

People are sleeping on >pic related. This card is amazing, even though the quest is just a minor part, but just imagine dropping a 12/12 on Turn 6 and nobody can remove it.

The quest is just another win condition, but most of the time you are able to overrun the enemy within a few turns.

I love it, i have fun, but i also really enjoy the Priest and Shaman quest.

Shaman > Druid > Priest (Fast > Medium > Slow as fuck)

Go ahead and craft it!
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Seriously this guy gets 2x 7attack with charge minion and i get like nzoth fuck u blizzard
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>>174058205
Got you! Than you did the right play and got rused. But to be honest, there are not many good outcomes there.
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>>174058304
How high can you climb playing quest shaman without finja?
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>>174058304

I can't get on board with a 7 drop with 3 health
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>>174058398
Finja is not even good in quest Shaman, because you basically fill your deck with Murlocs and run the enemy over. Imagine it like Zoo Shaman.
Finja will most of the time slow you down and/or fuck up some important battlecries.
On the other hand, Finja can save you every now and then.

I would say Finja is completely meaningless. But im currently stuck at rank 6.

>>174058445
But you can read, right? You play it on Turn 5, drop an actual good card on board when it dies and you get +2 on your quest.
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Should I invest in Midrange Paladin or Elemental Shaman? I have 0 Paladin legendaries but coin-flipping totem rolls and Lightning Storm hits pisses me right the fuck off.
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>>174058568
>I would say Finja is completely meaningless. But im currently stuck at rank 6.
Based as fuck. Can you name some of the key cards? I'm going to craft the quest.
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>>174053141
Yep. Same. All the good commons won't come. Macaw, Pterrordax, etc.
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>>174058740
>invest in hearthstone
when is the return?
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>>174058849
when you climb with the deck?
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>>174058568

>You play it on Turn 5, drop an actual good card on board when it dies and you get +2 on your quest.

Too slow mate
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>>174058910
thats not a return. are you even an investment banker?
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Why must that retarded babbling book be in 3rd wing holy shit. Thanks to those legendaries going into wild, I got like free 3.6k dust when I logged.

My exodia mage is only missing that stupid books which turned out to be so fucking important since cabalist tome is too slow and shit.
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guess the pokemon
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>>174051915
>Reno isn't cancer
This card should never have seen print. There are always cards in every game that clearly should never have seen the light of day. The Karn planeswalker was that in MTG, Reno is nearly the same thing in this shit game.
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Step it up hsg friends, the month is half over.
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>>174059069
I'm rank 9 and bored out of my mind with HS. I can't bring myself to climb any higher right now, maybe next week.
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>>174059045
Lyra
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>>174058934
http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilder/shaman#88:1;222:2;289:2;357:2;390:1;420:2;424:2;510:2;35219:2;35228:2;49672:2;49716:2;52595:1;55470:1;55471:2;55574:2;55596:2;

This is a really basic version of the deck. Feel free to add Coldlight Oracle for draw, Flametongue Totem for damage, Devolve for removale, etc. You get the idea.
Keep in mind that Primalfin Totem is probably utter shit, but i love the card and most of the time people either completely ignore your free token totem or waste a bunch of early removale on it.

The idea of the deck is to simply overrun the enemy and play Megafin as soon as possible. Keep in mind that you need more than 5 Mana, so you dont mill any cards.
Its very simple to play, but extremely rewarding.
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>>174059069
everyones playing jank until the meta settles and they know what netdecks to blow their dust on
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>>174058756

I fucked up, but feel free to post there anyway.
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Vilespine slayer is absolutely fucking disgusting.
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>>174032105
I have absolutely no problem with this. Ropers are cancer. All ropers should get banned.
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>>174059069
when my n'zoth mage beats control I will, OH WELL POWERCREEP LUL THANKS BLIZZ CAN'T BEAT COMBO CAN'T BEAT CONTROL AND A NECESSITY FOR GOD DRAW AGAINST AGGRO BECAUSE LOL NO HEAL
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I dont have any board clearance yet, but blazecaller is kinda op tho, which one
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>>174034067
Hey man Voraxx is neat, he just has shit stats.
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>>174059583
I rope pirate warriors
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>>174059273
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>>174059896

God bless you anon
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>>174059896
>play Pirate Warrior to grind ranked
>play meme decks in casual
>never face Pirate Warriors in ranked
>only meme decks
>never face meme decks in casual
>only Pirate Warriors
I don't rope people because I play the same cancer to win. Pirate Warrior is fucking ridiculous when you can face up against a Quest Rogue bouncing Golakka Crawler four times to complete the quest on turn 4 then play it on 5 and still win.

Although he probably lost for playing dumb because he actually used two bounces to eat his own Swashburglar and Patches just to get the quest out sooner which is a huge mistake.
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>>174060181

Fun!
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>>174060181
Congrats, you got the only good neutral legendary this set.
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>>174059697
You have /1/ elemental
blazecaller is fucking garbage in your deck, take twisting nether obviously
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>>174059697

Renounce or gay
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>>174058797

Replied to the wrong dude last time, fuck. Are you still here, anon? ayy

http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilder/shaman#88:1;222:2;289:2;357:2;390:1;420:2;424:2;510:2;35219:2;35228:2;49672:2;49716:2;52595:1;55470:1;55471:2;55574:2;55596:2;

This is a really basic version of the deck. Feel free to add Coldlight Oracle for draw, Flametongue Totem for damage, Devolve for removale, etc. You get the idea.
Keep in mind that Primalfin Totem is probably utter shit, but i love the card and most of the time people either completely ignore your free token totem or waste a bunch of early removale on it.

The idea of the deck is to simply overrun the enemy and play Megafin as soon as possible. Keep in mind that you need more than 5 Mana, so you dont mill any cards.
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What deck is anti-taunt warrior? its literally 90% of players from 10-5
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I fucking love this card.
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>>174060486
Taunt warrior has a 50% winrate against it
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>>174060486
Some anon suggested Priest with the new Elise to discover the Un'Goro pack.

Control Paladin also seems like it'd work fairly well because the new pally cards are straight from valuetown.
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>>174060486

Put hunter's mark in midrange hunter and you'll win more than you lose.
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>>174059896
That's really the only acceptable roping is when someone is playing cancer. Still, so fucking tired of playing casual and getting
>Rope
>Rope, Frostwolf Grunt
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>>174060514
post meme
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>>174060286
>>174060371
thanks, playing against innkeeper got me some crazy amount of legendaries
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>>174060660
>discover un'goro pack
>open it
>it's 40 dust which you can't even use to craft anything better
>concede
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>>174047773
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>>174053141
I opened 58 packs and I was one common short of having a complete common set (2x) of JtU. You just have to git gud.
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There should be a sigh emote so I could communicate to the other player how bad my hand is.
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>>174047773

top queque
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>>174062276
"Not quite what was planned."
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>start hearthstone
>continue 4/2 arena run
>go to other window while waiting for queue
>get distracted
>go back to HS
>4hp left
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>>174049771
God arena's not even worth it. That's all you got for 10 fucking wins? I'd rather play the same amount with 1/10 the stress and just buy packs.
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>>174062693
You have to get 7 wins to get even in terms of gold (+ free pack). Best players in the game have an average of slightly below 7. If you're not a top 100 player in the world, The arena is not "worth it".

However, if you're only slightly above average, playing Arena is a better deal than buying packs for gold.
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It's not going well desu
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>>174050446
Daily Reminder: anyone who disagrees with posts like this which are 100% spot on are blizzard shills.
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>>174063068
Have you tried quest rogue?
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This has not been a good day.
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>>174050709
>Blizzard is a corporation! It's SUUUPPOOSED TO FUCK IT'S CUSTOMERS!!
Shut the fuck up, shill.
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>>174050721
I'm dreading hitting the pity timer and opening a quest t b h.
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>>174050865
They're going to have to soon. Sales have been down month after month for a while now. They keep this shit up and they'll kill this cash cow.

>>174051083
>>174051097
>Netdecking standard faggots: the cancer killing all card games
There is this thing called "having fun" just playing card games. I know netdecking morons can't grasp this concept.
>WINNING IS FUN!!
So is heroin. Try it some time.
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>>174051463
>waaaay more filler cards.
SECOND
HAND
MARKET
>>
Daily reminder that everyone who uses the term "netdecking" unironically and says it's cancer is officially autistic and doesn't understand how card games work.
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>>174063014
>You have to get 7 wins to get even in terms of gold
I know. I stopped playing Arena on my old account YEARS ago, because I saw the rng was rigged as shit. It's almost impossible to be good at arena, and even if you are, it's pure stress with paltry rewards. There is absolutely no point to arena until they fix it (which will never happen). It's a dead format newbs keep falling for. It's HS's equivalent of a casino, really.
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>>174062272
>58 packs
>Didn't even get a complete common set
This is just filth.
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>>174063836
Daily Reminder: Netdeckers are fucking cancer.
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>>174054483
A good 3/4ths of those decks see absolutely no play. What're they getting at here?
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>>174054483
>no quest hunter
i'm ahead of the curve, boys
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