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NEWS
>English P5 DLC schedule: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-dlc-scheduled-announced-english-release/
>Next major event announced for August 2nd in Sumaru City: http://personacentral.com/large-scale-persona-live-event-announced-august-2-2017/
>New Persona games to be announced 2017: http://personacentral.com/atlus-to-announce-several-games-in-2017-includes-the-persona-series/
>New Atlus studio "Studio 0" to create new RPG named Project Re Fantasy: http://personacentral.com/atlus-project-re-fantasy-concept-video-site-update/
>Persona 20th Anniversary radio CD announced: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-radio-cd-detailed/
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INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S
GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona Image Collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
http://pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE
MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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Anal with Makoto!
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Consensual boring missionary sex with Makoto!
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>Debug menus
P3 > P4 > P5
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2nd for concept art
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I'll bet Metroid fans love the boat
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hot punk rock doggy style sex with Tae while coked up!
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I love cake!
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>Ryuji can't follow the plot
>Lavenza tells him to shut up
best girl
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>>174006987
Now I really wished the TYH had the full artbook, because I'd really want to know the story behind that smug looking prick on the top.
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>>174006867
you fucked it up anon
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>mind my own business for half a year
>have the highest grades in the school
>fucking the student council president every wednesday
>regularly work at a flower shop
>classmates still think that I'm gonna shoot up the school any second now
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>>174006971

A chorus of WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?
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>>174007101
it's because you are hanging out with Mishima
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Persona 1 and Persona 2 didn't exist
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>>174006987
why can't you play as a grill tho? I wanted to be the biggest slut of all
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LAVENZA IS CUTE
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>>174007056

PQ2 when?

I want all worst attendant's sisters to bully the shit out of him, until he gets sick of it and reveals that he is the big bad because he can't take it anymore
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>Cut content in a game that was two years overdue
wew
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>>174007204
you're cute
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>>174007101
How long will it take for /pg/ to admit that P5 is the most thematically incoherent game in the series and does a disservice to all the social issues it namedrops?
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>ryuji says that the capital of America is LA
>no one corrects him
Is...is the PT retarded?
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Tell me what it is you love about Ann, /pg/.
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>>174007160
they've been searching all along
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>>174007253
He's right you fucking retard
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What level should I be at by the end of/before the boss battle of Sae's Palace?
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>>174007183
>P4 existed
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The casino is kinda fun but I feel like it's taking a lot longer than the others
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>>174007253
Futaba clearly intentionally doesn't correct him and then asks a question that makes him look even dumber though. You are the retarded one Anon.
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Will there be a P5 port for Vita?
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>>174007290
We've been over this. She's secretly a lunatic.
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Alright guys, no trolls this time.
Do the Phantom Thieves exist?
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>>174007290
She has the worst Confidant in the game!
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>>174007097
I'm sure we'll get something
Eventually

>>174007194
Wait for P5C
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Important Strawpoll

http://www.strawpoll.me/12748812
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>>174007253
most are, yeah
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>>174007338
55
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>>174007253
>t. that guy who says AKSHUALLY
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>>174007246
none of these games are coherent thematically
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Just beat the game with like 82 hours on my save, why was nobody around on the last day where I had time to go say goodbye to people? Is it because I didn't max out my social links with them?
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https://strawpoll.com/cazb418
https://strawpoll.com/cazb418
https://strawpoll.com/cazb418
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>>174007497
>what is P1
>what is the P2 duology
>what is vanilla P3
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>>174007458
Hm, about 5 levels short but I have 2 weeks left. Can send the calling card at any time.
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>>174007397
Justice with Akechi!
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>>174007503
yes
> Is it because I didn't max out my social links with them?
what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>174007503
>spoiler
Yes.
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>>174007503
Yes
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>>174007593
>not saving all of the social links for NG+ when the palaces are a cakewalk
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>>174007101
So, that sounds pretty true to life.
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Unused voice clips of Goro (as a party member) using Loki:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qvhe2cpHor
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1sszdYr9sem

Japanese version:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1eSaiHE4HlR
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1RVO179fXdO

Cutscene stuff coming up in a bit.

>>174006884
It's a combination of getting too worked up/excited over accomplishing a major task (since as far as he knew at the time, arresting the PT's leader and his death ensuring that they'd be blamed for the berserk- and mental shutdown incidents should've been the last preparation step remaining before the plans he's been spending at least two and a half years would come to fruition), and the anime scene overplaying his expression for shock value (he's much calmer in the next scene; it's likely they made the anime scene before they finalized the script, as there's some evidence that they revised a few Goro-related scenes later into development).
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>>174007503
>Anon can't even make friends in a game about making friends
Kek
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Kaneshiro x Lavenza porn when?
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I can see Joker getting into politics, Yoshida will teach him everything and then die tragically in a car accident and secure the sympathy vote for Joker. Then Joker will fix Japan and make sure porn censorship laws are abolished for the good of all
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>>174007246
It'd have to happen first.
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>>174007715
>as there's some evidence that they revised a few Goro-related scenes later into development).
Where?
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>>174007409
That's Makoto desu
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>>174007715
when will P5 remake come here and when will we finally be able to cum inside /ourboy/
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>>174007785
>implying Joker won't start a paramilitary revolutionary group to bring down Abe
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>>174007651
>implying the palaces aren't already a cakewalk
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>>174007425
>all those Kobayakawa votes
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I think the guides are wrong because it says to fuse sadama (star) but Sudama is Hermit, so I can only imagine they mean Kodama which is star and they do fuse with Okuninushi for Ame no uzume but they dont get a dodge psy option in the fusion result
Am I doing something wrong
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>>174007553
Seriously, what are they?
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>>174007715
>as there's some evidence that they revised a few Goro-related scenes later into developmen
>source: my gaping anus
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>One of Goro's Persona's isn't Sherlock Holmes, the enemy to Arsene Lupin
fuck this
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I just got home after a 3 hour train delay cause of an accident and I'm a shitty student.

When do I unlock my persona?
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>>174007785
>has criminal record and was in juvie
>getting into politics
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>>174007951
Thematically consistent games in the Persona series.
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>>174007552
you fags have the worst taste
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>These autistic fuckers in Station Square talking about the sun god
Is this supposed to be a joke, given that the Sun Confidant is like 5 feet away from them?
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Kanji is best boy. Rise is best girl. 4 is best Persona.
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>>174007984
Are you muslim?
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>>174007951
Only P2 is good out of that selection.
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>>174008037
lol
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>>174007967
Sherlock Holmes wouldn't get foiled by pancakes
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>>174007967
Fucking this.
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>>174008037
name one trait Rise has that isn't done better by another Lovers girl
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>>174008037
1/3 ain't bad
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>>174007345
>P4 exists
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>>174007715
I agree with most of what you've been saying but it's honestly ridiculous to try and detach the idea of excitement at accomplishing a major task from the fact that the task involves shooting someone in the head at point blank range
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Don't mind me, just claiming my waifu
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>>174008037
what the hell is this guy's problem?
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>>174008138
Women aren't objects, you can't claim them.
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>>174007967
It's astounding how many stupid people have suggested this in the last week
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>>174008207
he just did tho
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>>174008207
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>174008127
Voiced by Teh Rie
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>>174008015
Doesn't sound familiar. I think we would have heard about that.

>>174007967
I think you mean Herlock Sholmes.
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>>174008227
I don't think anyone suggesting it actually wants it to happen.
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>>174007967
>not Herlock Sholmes
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>After the Casino
Post yfw the Ruse was Real
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>>174008207
t. mad I got best girl first
Sorry anon-kun, all's fair in love and war
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Why is Ann so useless in combat? She's doesn't have physical attacks, she's not good at healing compared to Makoto and Morgana and her status ailments are useless
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>>174008207
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How many hours did it take you guys to beat the game on your first run?
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>>174007956

Not him, and I think he's full of it, but there IS a weird disconnect with the anime scenes vs the game, like either the studios weren't in proper communication or they were done before stuff was fianalized.

Note how in anime scenes the otherworld doesn't look that different while in game there's odd colors, in addition to other changes like Shido's ruse cruise going through blue water and flooded but intact buildings in the movie, but in blood red water and ruined crumbling buildings in game.

Or how Sae's casino is manned by people in the anime, but shadows in game.
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>>174008091
Sherlock Holmes wouldn't have to cause crimes in order to solve them, either.
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>>174008345
I've already found my love.
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>>174008341
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>>174006867
Should I start a NG+? I beat the game yesterday and want to do more. I didn't max out all of the S.Links on my first playthrough but all my social stats are maxed out.

Is it worth it for the extra boss fight and Satanael?

Does the teach still give you massages at max level even if you don't date her?

Also should I try hard mode or is it just annoying horse shit?

Thanks guys
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why do they treat mona like a boy? all dogs are boys and all cats are girls, right?
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>>174008392
this could be solved if they just didn't have the ugly anime cutscenes
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>>174008265
Stop playing stupid and admit P4 and P5 are intellectually DRAINING to play compared to P1-3 which make you think a bit and give you new perspectives on people and life.
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>>174008341
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>>174008414
I mean, not a bad boytoy choice, really
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>>174008207
Does anyone have that screenshot of Kaneshiro saying that women are physically weak and also dumb?
Always makes me giggle for some reason
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>>174008370
Wait for her to become the best bossing character when she gets Concentrate.

>>174008374
The lower end of the 80s.
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>>174008341
I knew Goro was going to be a villain I just didn't expect him to get so thoroughly fucked or that he'd be so pathetic that he couldn't even solve actual crimes.
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>>174008207
>
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>>174008449
Yes
Yes
Yes
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Answer me this, /pg/!
Goro or Adachi?
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>>174008374
76
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>>174008449
>Is it worth it for the extra boss fight and Satanael?

wait, what
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>>174008341
I didn't see that coming
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Persona 1 and 2 are on the PSP right? Are they on the PSN for the Vita?
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>>174008370

(Ma)Tarunda is useful all the way up until you can fuse Trumpeter, her magic damage is swell, and at some point after you get debilitate she learns mind charge which instantly puts her high on the damage totem pole. She's the only party member that was in my party the whole game to be PERFECTLY honest senpai-kun.
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>>174008449
Why wouldn't you anyway?
Yes
>not playing NG at least on hard
after Madarame there's no excuse
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anyone else think that the animated scenes are really fucking awkward? the pauses are too long and the characters just stare at each other while making grunting noises a lot.
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>>174008392
At the start of the game in the casino heist, you can see the human guards from the anime cutscene chatting Joker and then transform into the masked shadows. There's no disconnect there.
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>>174008470

Agreed. The anime cutscenes seem like a waste of budget and limit story and ending options, and IMO the in game engine cutscenes are just as good.
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>>174008546
what
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>>174008531
at least Adachi doesn't have flocks of fujos claiming he's a good boy who was just bullied into doing things he didn't want to do
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>>174008471
Nah.
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>>174007715
You're a true hero, anon. Thank you.
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>>174008414
Treat him well, anon
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>>174008641
>>174008530
I heard hard is just "youre more likely to get hit with bullshit RNG" the difficulty rather than actually making me strategize more
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>>174008663
Just as good? They're way better
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>>174008531
Still Adachi. Groo can't even compare.
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>>174007967
Bonerdick Carbunkle isn't a thief though
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>>174008580
Persona 2 Innocent Sin's remake is translated and on the PSP. Persona 2 Eternal Punishment's remake isn't translated but it's on the PSP.

You'd be better off playing the PS1 version of P2. P1's remake is on the PSN but you'd be better off emulating it.
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>>174008642
>the characters just stare at each other while making grunting noises a lot
I don't see what the problem is, anon. That's exactly what highschool is like
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>>174008686
Adachi is a handsome boy thou.
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>>174008686

You weren't around during P4's release window, were you? Adachi apologists used to be commonplace and sincere.
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Teddie > Morgana
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>>174008686
Is that not what like half of Adachi's fans have been doing for 9 years?
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>>174008370
>(Ma)Tarunda
>useless

>physicals
>when she gets severe Fire and Concentrate
>useless
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>>174008642
It just like you've never seen anime before
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stop talking about groo
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>>174008686
That was literally the Adachiposter narrative for fucking ages lmao.
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WHO DO I BRING WITH ME TO FIGHT SHIDO?
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>>174007806
>>174007956
In the cutscene audio files themselves. Several of his scenes (most notably the rank 3 scene at Leblanc) had key lines added later on, so they're listed after the rest of the scene. For the rank 3 scene, for example, the lines about his mother and him living alone are listed at the end of the audio bank, instead of when they're actually used in the scene itself.

I can't exactly prove that by uploading the files since file order can be modified, but if anyone wants to check for themselves, you can extract the audio banks for those scenes yourself. The rank 3 scene's in ps3.cpk, in sound/event/e309_601.awb/.acb, for instance.

>>174008136
Not trying to detach that, you're right that it's a necessary step for that task. The actual act of shooting isn't the cause of him getting worked up, though, as that's the association (completing the last necessary preparation step for his plan). It's a minor difference, but it does change how the scene comes across.

Ultimately, I wouldn't be surprised if it's mostly on that cutscene being from earlier in development than the finalized script, though.
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>>174008909
>>174008854
>>174008832
So you're saying Goro really is worse Adachi
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https://strawpoll.com/y4gaz4c
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>Carebear booties, in the suits yeah. Keep your focus away from the chicken heads, tell me
>What's that Popeye's, on the cock eyes

What did her Palace imply by this?
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>>174008923
Solo it
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>>174008923
the ones you feel that make the most sense to bring plot-wise
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>>174008923
>yourself
>ryuji
>morgana for heals
>makoto for defense buff
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>Yusuke gets hit on by two girls in yukata
>ryuji thinks he's getting hit on by proxy and says we should ditch Ann and Makoto
>think Ryuji is going to force some bullshit wacky virgin adventure scene on me
>Yusuke tells them to fuck off and not to disgrace themselves

Based Yusuke.
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>>174008783
Better off emulating the P1 remake? Is it not worth just buying?

As for P2 I heard it's a two parter, Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment. So I should play Innocent Sin's remake, then play the original Eternal Punishment since it wasn't translated?
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>>174008686
FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH INVESTIGATION TEAM

ADACHI IS MY NEW BEST FRIEND
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>>174008923
Ann for Tarunda
Makoto for Maraku
Cat for more healing or Ryuji for damage
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>>174009040
Just emulate the originals also

>Spending money on a marginally better remake
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Kanji is best boy. Rise is best girl. Adachi is best villain. Dojima is best dad. 4 is best Persona.
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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>>174008923

Depends on what persona/skills Joker has. My team was Ann/Makoto/Yusuke, even though some would say they're probably the weakest three in the game, because I had a general gameplan with them.
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So who's the oldest waifu in P5? I know Sadayo is in her mid 20s, but Tae and Ohya have to be in their late 20s to early 30s, right?
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>>174008531
Goro

Adachi has no reason to be sympathized with, he's a manchild who wants to rape women and then kills them when he can't
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>>174008961
He was a vicious psychopath before the anime cutscene too
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>>174009032
It warms my heart to see the near unanimous love that Yusuke is getting. Is there any other character in the series that has as few haters as Yusuke?
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>>174009116
Sounds like emulation is the way to go then.

I just know nothing about the first two Persona games, I'm a Persona 4 baby (then went back to P3) so I feel like I should check out the first two games (or... three, I guess) to see what they were like.
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>those hearts in the take your time menu
Adorable
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What are your hopes and wishes for Persona 5 Arena?
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What did he mean by this ?
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>>174009161
The entire P2 cast
The entire P1 cast
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>>174009161
Any P2 character after P4 came out
Nanjo
Katsuya
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>>174008965
>reuses some of Adachi's same sentiments in his boss battle
>'you and the protagonist could have been the same, but you're a loser with no friends'
>even a member of the police
>chosen by the real villain
Yes. He's almost literally Adachi. Even the names sound similar.
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>>174009139

Old lady from P4
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>>174009161
Eikichi
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>>174009028
I did this and it didn't go to well because I don't really have good magic game.
I've good physical but can't do shit to him because he reflects physical.
And Makoto can only spam Freidyne and defense up and doesn't do much from that.
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Sheesh, you're all being such children about this Goro and Adachi stuff. Why don't you discuss things that actually matter?

Which boy in p5 has the biggest dick? Iwai doesn't count, he's in his own league.
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>>174009032
I'm just glad there was no stupid girls vs boys bullshit hotspring or pool bullshit.
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>>174009139
Kawakami is probably the oldest with Oya and Tae shortly behind.
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What do you think of him compared to the other Persona protags?
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>>174009237
HARU

IS

THICC
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>>174009161
If only I could get Power Charge onto him...otherwise, he's still truly the best boy
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>>174009161
I hate how he could be completely removed from the story and character interactions and almost nothing would change.
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This fucking game made me bang my head against a hard wood surface
Now there's a gash there and it's bleeding pretty fucking badly
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>>174009237
Haru wears baggy clothes, so it's hard to tell what she actually looks like?
Or maybe it's just >>174009367
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Is it possible to get a Chainsaw Execution with Lavenza? I want to keep rolling for one just so I can see the cutscene.
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>>174009356
smug motherfucker
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>>174009235
Combat Futaba that can use Necronomicon to summon Yog Sotthoth.
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>>174009315
Joker or Yusuke. These are the only choices.
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>>174009161
I like how his eyes look here. Cool shot.
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>>174009391
He has a very good introduction too.

After that it's just autism played for laughs
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>Sae will never sit on your face
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>>174009356
The best of all of them, except for Yu who he is equal to.
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>>174009262
>comparing Goro to Adachi again
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>>174009391
I've never found that a compelling complaint. As long as he adds to the group as a whole and the dialogue, it's cool.
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>>174009356
Better than the other two by a huge margin
What sucks is that with Wada at the helm P6 will go back to the generic adult game protagonist adored by everyone
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>>174009419
I heard video games can overstimulate the autistic, you should probably find a new hobby.
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>>174009356
Joker is so stylish but those shoes are so stupid, fuck
The only thing that stops him from been 10/10
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>>174009161
>the Phantom Thieves have no idea who Medjed is
>Yusuke looks up the namesake
>goes on and on and on about the actual Egyptian god in the chat
>Ryuji gets a bit annoyed
>Yusuke hopes that it was useful info
>Makoto says it was
>Yusuke asks if he should look into it more
>Makoto just says that's enough thank you

Based Yusuke.
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>>174009356
Significantly more of a smug, arrogant bastard than any other Persona protagonist. I mean, did you see the types of lines he gets?
>You jelly?
>Time to button mash
>I'm just a little bit salty.
>Something witty
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>>174009356
better then yu
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>>174009468
Yes, there was webmd of it posted here months ago..
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>>174009558
Great shitpost
Wada is going to save the series after Hashino let it stagnate with P4 and P5. Now he's running off to make a fantasy series that is going to be a generic mess because he can't rip off P1 and P2 anymore
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>>174009235

Makoto has a command grab that leads to sick okizeme.
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>>174009262
bad meme
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>>174009540
You're right, Adachi did it better.
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>>174009238
I suppose we'd have to really talk about those casts to have haters.
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>>174009238
Because no one played those.
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>>174009356
Joker = Door > Brotag
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>>174009356


Joker should had been black desu
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>>174009235
Reiji
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>>174009682
This would be cute if I was also 15
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Goor is literally exactly like Adachi holy shit
bravo Miyazaki
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>>174009592
Well I never saw it with Lavenza and the thought just occurred to me so I was curious since I saw it with Justine. Would be cool if you had the webm.
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>>174009809
>GOOR
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>>174009703
>>174009706
Every single anon here who has played P1 and P2 love the casts and never have anything bad to say about them
You never see anybody complaining about them
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>>174009510
His comments in Okumura's palace about being the subject of oppression for so long that you start to welcome it caught me off guard. I wish we'd seen more of that instead of just autism jokes.
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>>174009673
bad argument
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>>174008757
Yeah or Just grind til your eyes bleed the difficulty
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What would you want in a Fem!Joker route, /pg/?
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>>174009653
>P5
>stagnate
???
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>>174009809
Don't insult Cabbage with pancakes
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>>174009828
Did you mean the one anon?
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>>174009161
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>>174009687
>he thinks I'm talking about villainy
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>>174009892
Make her a bigger slut than Yu was in the P4 anime.
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Morgana should've had his cat portrait for all the real world scenes. It's cuter than his mascot form and it was weird having that portrait on screen at the same time as his cat model sitting next to you.
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>>174009551
He doesn't really add anything to the group though. Yes, he gets some funny scenes, but for the most part he is just there, in the background. It's like he never has an opinion or idea of his own.
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>>174009917
More like close to half of the general. Learn your place already.
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>>174009828
People complain that Jun and Eikichi are total non characters every now and then
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>>174009892
I W A I
W
A
I

IWAI IWAI IWAI IWAI IWAI IWAI IWAI IWAI IWAI
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>>174009930
/pg/, give me the suffering of Christ
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>>174009564

If Ryuji's heart wasn't in the right place I'd hate his fucking guts.
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>>174009892
Date Sae.
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>>174009892
The one where I go back in time and delete the P3P source code
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>>174009892
anal
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>>174009160
Not to the same extent. I can't speak for the localization as I haven't seen that scene in full yet, but in the Japanese version, he comes across as unsettlingly calm in the part prior to the anime cutscene - he doesn't even use the smirking portrait unless you're on track to the bad ending, whereas in the anime cutscene he goes for a full-on slasher smile that's more appropriate for his later breakdown.

He comes off more as eerie than as a vicious psychopath, to the point I've seen a fair few people note that his behavior gives the impression of a killing puppet of sorts if anything.
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>>174009828
I played both and I hate Brown. The others range from okay to fantastic.

I am very neutral to Maki.
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>>174009892
>Harem scene
>All the boys mad at Fem!Joker
>Yusuke gets to leave with a consolatory fuck because he spent all his money on a gift
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>>174006867
I need a little help /pg/. I'm on 6/2 and I didn't unlock sensei yet.

I checked online and I was apparently supposed to get an event on 5/24 but I didn't get one.

I just completed the palace though on 6/1 so maybe after the change of heart of Madarame I will get the sensei event?

Or am I fucked and should revert a save?
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>>174010004
honestly I feel like Eikichi got hyped up way too much by people, he isn't really that much of a bro and he's a fairly static character. I didn't mind him but I wasn't enthused about him either. Lisa's kind of dull too. the EP cast is definitely stronger than IS's by a large margin.
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>>174009902
He means they're too popular.

>>174009983
Maybe the thieves should talk more about ART.
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>>174007967
>Goro's persona isn't the mythological trickster Conan Edogawa
They really fucked that up
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>>174009892

The ability to fuck and blackmail Kamoshida, and Madarame, and Kaneshiro, and Futaba, and Sae, and Shido

Also fuck all the girls and boy s.links, also igor, also Yaldy
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>>174010026
Why? Yusuke was kinda just spamming the chat with seemingly useless info.
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>>174010130
do you have the right stats?
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>>174009983
>It's like he never has an opinion or idea of his own
I agree that he's just kind of there a lot of the time but really?
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>>174009892

Yusuke's now romantic confidant has an implied nude painting scene.

Iwai romance.

Shota wardens.

Shiho for new Moon confidant.
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>>174009235
>Joker being Yosuke but more frametraps then Moonsault Moonsault Moonsault Sukukaja!

Ryuji being a slower, harder hitting character but not a grapler

Ann as a zoner but not retarded Ken tier

Makoto having sick oki

Haru shooting grenades everywhere

Morg being what solo Koro should've been

Yusuke is Uniel's Yuzu

Goro never ever

CaroJus using a tag team system
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>>174010051
>Not to the same extent

How? If anything he's more cold in the in game part.
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If I given the power of wild card, I would end up like Akechi
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>>174010043
This. FeMC was a fucking mistake.
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>>174009892
>Ryuji is the only boy you can't romance
>he's convinced that you're just kidding with him the entire time
>if you don't date anyone else he'll still come to you and lament his virginity
Only way for Ryuji's life to become worse desu
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>>174010075
Well, most of the P1 cast is a little too quiet. Then again, the whole game is a little light on story. Not a bad story, just kind of the opposite extreme as later games when it comes to the gameplay to story ratio.
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>>174009892
lesbian sex also
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>>174009892
Valentines day harem gangbang
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>>174009375

Wait for Crimson. That's what happened with Kanji in Golden at any rat.
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>>174010207
Guts 3, yeah but I assume the guts check is later on, right?

Or do I need something else?

Apparently there was supposed to be an event where Ryuji calls for a main on the 5/24 but nothing happened for me.
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>>174010162
I think the thing with the IS cast is that people tend to extrapolate from them a lot or project on to them to the point that they start seeing them as being more nuanced than they actually are in canon. But I guess that happens with anything.
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>145cm
>roughly 40kg
Imagine how fun it would be to manhandle her tiny body.
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>Playing on merciless first time
>Didn't grind exp
>Out of money for personas above my level
>Walking up to final boss
>Miniboss shows up, summons two angels
>They keep healing him. He keeps summoning more of them.
Am I retarded? I don't get how I win this. Does the difficulty change the fact the angels get summoned straight away after death or the fact that once the main guy goes to about half hp he gets a full heal?
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WHAT ARE GOOD PERSONAS TO HAVE AGAINST SHIDO
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>>174010293
That's kinda pathetic
If I got wild card and could go into people's palaces as well I'd just fuck with the Phantom Thieves the entire time
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>>174010019
She's gonna have to wait in line
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so do you guys hate P5 yet
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>>174010395

Imagine how fun it would be to have Sojiro's foot up your ass.
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>>174010221
>>Yusuke's now romantic confidant has an implied nude painting scene.
I want Yusuke to draw me like one of his 1/4 American girls
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>>174009892

girl on girl hand holding while sipping coffee
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>>174010436
maxed AGI arsene
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>>174010326
Even though the story was light and the cast development was small with the exception of like two characters, I still enjoyed most of the cast of P1. I don't like Brown, and Maki was just okay for me. I vastly preferred Nanjo, Eriko, and Reiji. Mark was a nice bro character despite being shit in battle.
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>>174010434
No, difficulty doesn't affect either of those. You'll have to abuse All Out Attacks with crit moves on all of your characters to just wipe them from the field entirely, or just have enough raw burst damage to kill them both.
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>>174010075

Nobody likes Brown. He's the character everyone tells you never to pick.
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Makoto's big fat BUTT
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>>174010436
Sandalphon
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>>174010130
you ruin it
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>>174009892
If we get a fem protag I'm betting my ass Goro gets the Shinji treatment and can be saved or even redeemed if you romance him.
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>>174010395
I can't get over her neet hips
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>>174009892
Option to take Ann's place in the Madarame's house infiltration, with rank 5 guts option to actually strip for Yusuke
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>>174010434
I'm pretty sure you can 1 More the angels, just don't remember the weakness. After that it's raw damage or lucky crit on boss and AoA
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>>174010460
get off of your laptop, Sojiro. you have customers
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>>174010594
Can I get that if I'm level 58?
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>>174010213
Talking about him as a Phantom Thief. There isn't any instance I remember where he contributes anything to the planning phases or the actual heists. He mostly agrees with the others and that's it.
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>>174010574
I've seen people that unironically like Brown. Just awful.
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>>174010434
I ran into this problem two days ago.

The angels only heal him (cast Recarmdra) under two conditions:
>the angel's health is low
>the boss is fully buffed (order is Evasion -> Def -> Attack)

So basically, you should either fuse Black Rider and spam his curse insta-kill ability, or use Dekaja to constantly remove buffs from the boss. You can get the boss's health as low as you want, as long he isn't fully buffed, they won't heal him.
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>>174009831

That's a big gripe I have with this game.

Ryuji's whole shtick is Interesting, too bad it's dropped in favor of being the butt of jokes.
Ann remains the sex object being oggled by everyone, including Joker and Ryuji after having had a whole arc about it.
Yusuke as mentioned, is just autism funnies.
Makotos introduction/awakening is super forced because Kaneshiro was an awful arc, and her problems are miniscule compared to the others.
Haru is barely a character.
Everything involving goro was bungled and felt horribly rushed.

Obviously, I'm being a bit nitpicky, and I think the game as a whole is damn good, but how have people ignored so many flaws when this fanbase is always so eager to rip Everything a new asshole?
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>>174010663

If you maxed Strength yes.
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>>174010395

>7 cm shorter then my tiny waifu

That's pretty short
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>>174010460

Speaking of things up asses...

Why does she sit like that?
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>>174010640
Sixth row, on the right. Which outfit is that?

Also when can I buy her maid outfit?
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>>174010436
Anything with phys res/null/abs
Something that can just shit out magic damage
Something with dekunda
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>>174010395
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>>174010730
curry pains
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>>174009284
don't you dare call Rise an old lady
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>>174010730
It's the classic "autistic sitting" pose. L from Death Note did the same thing.
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Have to say that the Igor twist blew my fucking mind
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>>174010395

Have a seat over there anon...
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>>174010730
99% of her diet is instant yakisoba and she eats a lot, she's probably trying to not get diverticulitis
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>>174010730
Most optimal defecation position (not even memeing)
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>>174010460
You're right, that's a bad idea.
>Kinky, but maybe too much.
...
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>>174010730
Japan likes having autistic characters sit like that for some reason
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>>174010852
Didn't think about that but yeah that's probably the most logical reason.
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>>174010938
Yeah I honestly didn't see it coming. People said they heard his voice and knew it but I thought they just got a new VA.
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>>174010684
I really think they tried to do too much without giving everyone's issues the proper time and exploration they needed. It's been said before but the party should have been smaller.
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>>174010898

She's 20 now. Might as well abscond with Yu and die with him in the woods in peace at this point. That's ancient by anime rules.
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>>174010938
Really? It's the same fucking shit we've been getting for 3 games now with durrrhurr evil god passes judgment on humanity and now they're the real final boss.

Also Igor never even fuses personas for you in this game like he does.. every other game you oblivious dipshit
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>>174010938
How did you not see the twist of Igor being controlled by Yaldabaoth coming? Igor had a new VA and he doesn't even try to sound like the actual Igor.

Then he says shit like welcome to MY Velvet Room, and he does jack shit in terms of Persona fusion.
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>>174010730
Maybe her butt hurts.
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>>174010684
>but how have people ignored so many flaws when this fanbase is always so eager to rip Everything a new asshole?
Because /pg/ is contrarian as hell and worships anything that isn't P4.
Dantis was right, this game is a mess.
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>>174010746
That's the P4AU Shadow Operatives outfit

In June

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-04-13-persona-5-dlc-schedule-costume-images-picaro-sets-japanese-voices-free-dlc-4249
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>>174010650
Does AoA do that much damage on merciless? Previous bosses or mini bosses won't take more than 100 damage for me.
>>174010682
Oh right I wouldn't know about the recarmdra conditions since the boss is too busy dicking my team for me to remove his buffs. He always inevitably crits someone and then it all goes to shit.
So then you're telling me if I avoid hurting the angels I can get away with them never healing? Or is it just one condition needs to be met?
>>
Why do the thieves freak out that Okumura calls the police when he gets a calling card?

How does that not seem like a logical move on his end?

How is that supposed to make any difference on their end?
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>>174011060
>Igor had a new VA

99.9999% of people wouldn't go "this character has a new VA i bet they're actually the demiurge"

I guess you're just special
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>>174009892
Chances to make Morgana uncomfortable.

>>174010460
Sojiro's cool with it. Eventually.

>>174010973
Futaba sounds like she might be okay with that sort of thing, too. I think she shows a few signs of being a bit of a pervert.
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>>174009892
FEM!JOKER ROMANCE OPTIONS

Ryuji
Yusuke
Iwai
Kaoru
Goro
Mishima
Shinya
Lala
Mr. Ushimaru

y/n
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We all played P5 with Japanese voices instead of English, right?


...right?
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>>174010640
I want it to be Kurisumasu
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>>174011160
He got a new VA and doesn't even TRY to sound like Igor

Something was wrong from the start. Also the Japanese don't believe in recasts so that was an even bigger giveaway.
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>>174011141
AoA is just for more aoe damage without using resources; you just want them off the field
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>>174011185
>implying Goro isn't 100% gay
lol
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>>174011186
>we
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>>174010729
Naoto is just glad to not be tied for shortest waifu.

But then again, get Naoto, Fuuka, and Futaba together and they could probably build a robot to rule over the stupid tall people.
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>>174011241
I want them off the field...but they get spawned the very next round.
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>>174011273
Goro is Jokersexual.
>>
P5 is heavily, heavily flawed, glad people are realizing this and the honeymoon period is ending.
EP was the last complete game in the series.
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>>174010256
That's what I meant. The game cutscene has him come across more as a puppet-like sort of cold/apathetic, while in the anime cutscene he comes off as unhinged thanks to his expressions in that one.
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>>174011239
If they do recasts, they always get someone to sound almost exactly like the original person.

>>174011160
No one called the Demiurge, but they sure as hell called the fake thing.
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>>174011013
I saw it coming.

Outside of the voice, he was more directly involved than ever before, throwing direct "do this now" your way which real Igor never does(he only gives vague hints and suggestions) was notably less courteous, and the MY velvet room and other shit was a pretty big tipoff to people who are very intimate with the serious.

I won't say it was completely obvious, because it wasn't, but there's definitely a shitload of huge clues if you're familiar with Igor.
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>>174011186
No shit. Anyone who says they like the dub is fucking lying.
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Shut up about Goro already my god.
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>>174011186
The dub is actually fine so no
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>>174011336
It's not heavily flawed, just flawed.
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>>174011160
his Japanese VA died and they got someone voicing him. It's very rare to just recast a characters voice in Japan without something weird happening with the character
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>>174011186
we can hope
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>>174011141
>>174011241
Oh and minibosses are super bulky but the angels are just regular demons at a high level

>>174011185
Yes
Yes
Yes
Sure
NO
FUCK OFF ZERO
P3P 2.0
Uh...
Nope

Add Tora
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>>174011186

Nope. I wanted to understand the background mutterings/movies/various unsubbed battle dialogues from enemies and allies alike. Subsequent playthroughs will probably be in Japanese.
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>>174011141
When the fight starts, kill both angels. He should resummon only one.

If you have a persona with the curse insta-kill ability, you can just spam it and kill the angels every time he summons them.

If you don't, you NEED to use either an item or spell to debuff the boss before he reaches full Evade/Def/Atk buff. The angel(s) will only heal him if he's fully buffed. So you can beat the shit out of the boss, just don't let him get fully buffed with any angels alive.
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>>174011239

igor's real voice actor died in japan

i assumed they were just recasting him in a different light because they needed igor, as he is an essential part of the games
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>>174011060
I only noticed when I heard the Grail talking with the same voice.
>>174011059
I can't rememer everything so clearly from games I played years ago like you, you special nerd.
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>>174011273
Goro is going to fuck that soaking fem!Joker pussy and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>174011185
>Ushimaru
>not Mr. Inui or Hiruta

Shit taste.
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>>174011389
Blame the fujos
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>>174010765
I have Shiki Ouji which can do most of those things except shit out magic damage. His magic attacks are low tier right now.
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>>174010630
Nah, not happening. But you still get even more sexual tension. He starts getting ideas with that massive silencer.
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>>174011237
She really does make it work
>>
Is Joker the only one who wears his uniform correctly?
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>>174011406

If a character is critical to the story (which Igor is) they recast no problems.
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>>174009237
Is Sugimura a Mementos request?
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>>174011186
I was going to but it didn't work. Dub wasn't terrible except for Best Girl and Haru's voices.
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>>174011389
No! Best boy!
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>>174011094

I mean, I never said it was a mess, and I don't think it is by any means. I just find it weird that it's getting a pass for some of the exact same shit the others are destroyed by people for.

If I had to describe my feelings on it, it's a great game that should've been much better than it is considering how long it took and the much larger budget for it.
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>>174011393
Love this meme
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>>174011525
Shiki-Ouji is fine, bring Ann for damage if you feel like it
BRING DEKUNDA/KAJA
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>>174008207
>whiteknighting animu girls
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>>174011451
And what makes you think that they'd use someone with a completely different voice? Recasting doesn't happen often, but when it does, they try to get someone that sounds the same.

>>174011545
Piercy does.
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>>174011401
>fanservice constantly undercutting the strongest arc in the game
>every character's issues are underdeveloped or laughed at afterwards
>game about the marginalized groups rising up against their oppressors still makes fun of marginalized groups constantly with jokes that aren't even funny or original
>everything with Goro
Nearly every single theme in this game is invalidated by some stupid gag or gets dropped. Maybe it's not heavily flawed, but it's easily the most disappointing game in the series.
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>>174011389
Never
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>>174010656
>Sojiro
>Has customers
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>>174011614
muh marginalized fags
muh no sense of humor allowed

eat shit
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>>174011386

I think the dub sucked but I still used it anyway because I hate the Japanese langauge even more.
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>>174011614
can't be the most disappointing game when P4 exists
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>>174011545
Piercy, Door, Joker
No, having the jacket simply open isn't using it wrong, unlike Narukami that has his shirt over the slacks
>>
>>174011614
What's wrong with Goro's arc?
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>>174011445
>>174011434
So is curse their weakness yeah? I just assumed there'd be no weakness.
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>>174011389

>>174011595
But Shiki only has shit spells like Zio, Psio and Harao.
Should I upgrade him because other wise I won't be doing any fucking damage.
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>>174011614
Said this in the last thread but this has been a problem with Persona since P3. All "deep" shit is so contradictory with the like, gay molester jokes 2 seconds later.
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>>174011747
Yes, they're weak to curse.
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>>174011713
P4's themes or storytelling are nowhere close to being as ambitious as P5's. That's what disappointment is, when the game tries so hard and stumbles so incredibly hard in virtually every aspect. It's hard to believe that almost this exact same team made P3.
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>>174011605

i just assumed they were going a new route with the character like a lot of other shit in this game. i mean looking back it's obvious, but that's what makes it great.
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>>174011567
no
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>>174011726
So does Tatsuya count as correct or does the loosened tie mean he's being a deviant?
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>>174011747
Either that or Zio, try them out

>>174011753
Anon, just change personas to attack, that's part of the game too
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>>174011614
I think that they just shouldn't have tried to tackle ideas like abuse and societal reform honestly. They couldn't rise to the challenge. I still enjoyed the game though.
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I hope they fix Valentine's DAy in Crimson
It's fucked up that Sojiro doesn't kick your teeth in for banging and betraying Futaba
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>>174011776
literally everything that's long form has tone shifts you fucking mong
you literally cannot make a game like Persona without them
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>>174011708
Did you laugh at the gay molestor jokes? Does anybody actually find it hilarious now that this is the umpteenth time the joke has been pulled in Persona?
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>>174010951
Well if I'm going down I might as well be honest

I'd just walk around the house looking for things to bend her over and fuck her on.
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>>174011336
Nothing is perfect anon
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>>174011870
I was honestly hoping there would be a burakumin character since they kept talking about slave to society.
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Why is Haru's AOA portrait so lewdly smug?
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>>174011842
Loose tie loose morals
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>Makoto shows up to the courtyard after the TV station while the gang is screeching about the Phantom Thieves as usual
>Asks what the fuck is going on because, you know, she was asked by the principal to keep her ears open for Phantom Thieves news
>Gets shit on by Ryuji and Anne for basically no fucking reason
Being Makoto is suffering.
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>>174011584
How much of the game's production time was actually for production, though? I mean it seems like the whole collapse of INDEX thing fucked things up quite a bit.

I think P5 is easily GOTY and deserves to be in the series even if it does have a number of flaws. There are parts of the characters that could have used a little more exposure, but I think that goes for all the games. But I do like what is there.

Though I also think >>174011094
is right and that a lot of people are just contrarian.
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>>174011920
play p2 you disgusting normie
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>>174011896
He apparently does shoot a "holy shit what" look on his face for a very brief moment

But honestly at that point in the game, he knows for damn certain that you're a good guy and you've helped out Futaba a lot so he knows you wouldn't treat her badly or anything. Of course, if you did, then yeah, Sojiro would absolutely kick your ass.
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>>174011930
Yeah, I chuckled a bit at Ryuji getting pulled off and Potter-kun shrugging it off. You need to chill
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>>174011842

Why does he have a clown tie?
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>>174010460
>>174010973
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holy shit it's finally happening, gaf stopped by to shit on the game
I might cum at this rate
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>>174011930
the jokes weren't about the gay molesters it was about how Justin Timberlake could only get cock
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>>174011798

>P3fag shitting on another persona

Oh that explains it, you can stop talking now.
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>>174011336
>EP was the last complete game in the series.
Will P2fags ever get down of their high horse?
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>>174011832
What a semen demon goddamn
I want to facefuck her until her makeup runs down her cheeks
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>>174010957
>99% of her diet is instant yakisoba and she eats a lot
Does she? Girl could be pushed away by a strong breeze.
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>>174011842
He's a sexual deviant
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>>174011962
Well he does want to fuck Jun after all.
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>>174011870

It feels like they were afraid they'd push the critism of their own country and leaders too far, so they kind of wimped out on the resolution.

It's still shockingly progressive, especially compared to 4 which was "Be a good little drone for the sake of everyone else, Japanese society is always right." but they couldn't push it too hard.
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>>174011920
>invalidate your themes
>"just a tone shift bro!"
This game is laughably childish. It's easily one of the most juvenile games I've played in years. It wants to have its cake and eat it too, it wants to pretend it's saying something deep about Japanese society and its numerous, deep-rooted problems, but it constantly shies away from anything biting or hard-hitting and sometimes even defends society and norms to a fault. It makes my eyes roll back in my head, if this was a western game it would be eviscerated for how childish its themes are.
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>>174011614
If anything im happy Fags got BFTO they can be degenerates on other series

The game right gays are molesters fucking School kids

Bless Atlus Fuck tumblr
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>>174011857
B-but what if he hits me!
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>>174011896
I have maxed Guts and I go batting every Monday, what's that old ass nigga gonna do to me?
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>>174011980
>>174011336
I like how oldschool fags love to shit on everything P3 and up yet won't get down from the P2 dickriding

>m-muh purfekt 10/10 chiptune simulator
Yes, P2 was fantastic, but you fuckers are far too obnoxious
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>>174012006
Because he goes to a school that's being haunted by Joker.
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>>174012114
You got that the wrong way around
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>>174011384
I thought it was part of some secret test of character. When he was ordering the Velvet twins to execute Joker I was expecting it to be some sort of trick to bring something out of Joker or the twins.
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>>174012140
Hashino talks really big in interviews and acts like he's such an intellectual but he's a complete coward when it comes to storytelling. He's more of a spineless fuck than Kojima. I wonder if the Japanese fans, having way more exposure to him, agree with this too.
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>>174012202
Throw you out of his cafe. he's letting you stay purely on goodwill, anon.
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>>174012179
Then you change back, anon-kun
Is this your first Purseowner?
Also, that's what Makoto is there for, literally a healbot
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>>174012269
It's mutual.
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>>174011980
p2 is considerably different from p3 to p5 and you know it
admittedly I should've said "modern persona"

>>174012151
you can't show all of a character's personality without tone shifts
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>>174012207
tbdesu P2 is also pretty horrendous in a fair few ways but I still think it's the best one
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>>174012207
>y-yeah the game is incredible but stop talking about how incredible it is you're annoying me!!!
Great argument.
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>>174012098
Yeah, despite her size she eats a lot
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>>174012027
I don't remember this conversation. Now what are her fetishes?
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>>174011727
Imo I don't like it just because it's way too reminiscent of another villain in the series. He even reused some of his dialogue from the anime iirc. And seriously, pancakes is the most retarded clue to someone's villainy from anything. Ever.
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>>174012207
P2 has a shitload of problems. The bulk of the story just isn't one of them.
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>>174012297
I'm not a P2 fag by any means (I enjoyed P1/3 more) but Tadashi was a way better writer and Kozy was a better director than Hashino.
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>>174012383
Tatsuya wants to fuck his nee-san
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>>174012392
>>174012481
Explain
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>>174012357
No I played 3 and 4 and also hid behind my Null Physical skills by just stacking shit onto one persona.
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>>174012415
I myself wasn't too fond of it, to be honest. I'm a filthy millenial and couldn't get into the gameplay, but the story and ost is baller. Thing is, it's not above criticisms, yet oldfags act as if it's the fucking second coming of JRPGs
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>>174008370
Nigga she fucking shits damage once she gets concentrate and blazing hell
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>>174012467
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>that Igor voice
Jesus Christ what happened?
It's like if Jame Earl Jones voice Pikachu
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>>174012467
Goro for me was literally Reiji. All Goro needed was a living mom and that's it.

>>174012527
STOP. MAYA IS FOR KATSUYA.
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>>174012285

Yeah. I thought it was more a result of his "role" as Joker's warden and the fact that he was an outright S link now which was why his personality was different.
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>>174012602
THE IGOR
IS FAKE
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>>174011437
This is important to me as well. I thought the dub was fine. As in, I listened and didn't really get worked up about anything. Which is all I need.
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>>174012602
Play the game, goddamnit, you'll find out

>>174012628
Fuck you, don't spoil shit like that
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So now can we finally agree Nier Automata is better than P5? At least that game wasn't made by a cowardly hack.
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Finished my first playthrough on hard

What should I do now?
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>>174012696
>At least that game wasn't made by a cowardly hack.
No it was only made by a hack
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>>174012696
now isn't the hour for that kind of shitposting
wait until the P2fags cry themselves to sleep
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>>174012656
>you actually subjected yourself to Haru's dub voice by choice
>you picked Master Hand over Lelouch
i am offended

>>174012628
I think he might be talking about regular Igor's dub which does in fact sound like James Earl Jones' rendition of Pikachu
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>>174012678
Not him, but if you don't want to be spoiled, do like the rest of us and don't come here til you've beaten it.

>>174012696
They're not even remotely similar, dude.
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>>174011980
But P2 is goofy as fuck. Like, it can be serious and it can be stupid.
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>>174012678
cuck
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>>174012715
NG+ Merciless Arsene only
Pro mode: no Reaper abuse, no skill cards
Potter must Die mode: no gallows
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>>174012568
EP is the last game where you can explain the story, characters, and themes to someone without having to look at your feet or shrug every 5 seconds and go "Yeah, it's fanservice.." or "Yeah they don't really go into detail about that" or "Yeah it's contradictory but you just have to ignore it".
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>>174011978
>How much of the game's production time was actually for production, though? I mean it seems like the whole collapse of INDEX thing fucked things up quite a bit.

Could be, but I'm a Normy that knows nothing about Atlus' inner workings. But I look at persona 4 which took 2-3 years, then look at P5 which took like...6? And I can't help but wonder how many of the same pitfalls are present.

>I think P5 is easily GOTY and deserves to be in the series even if it does have a number of flaws. There are parts of the characters that could have used a little more exposure, but I think that goes for all the games. But I do like what is there.

I agree, for the most part and didn't mean it is a bad game by any means, it's just...A disappointment. it's hard to explain because I think it's quite exceptional, but it could've been more, it's one of those things where the shit they fucked up stands out that much more because of it, And I just find it odd that so many missteps are just handwaved away ATM

>Though I also think >>174011094 #
is right and that a lot of people are just contrarian

True.
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>>174012602
That Igor is a fake and is the final boss, the real one shows up later
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>>174012602
His Japanese voice died, and they haven't been able to get his old English one either since Arena
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>>174012768
Yeah but when it's goofy it's just goofy and not uncreative weird gay/autism/other marginalized group jokes.
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>>174012465
A threesome with Akira and Makoto. Also it's probably one of her things from her Slink.
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>>174012764
I know that, but being a dick for the sake of being a dick and ruining the best tweest isn't very nice. I avoided this place like the plague after the spoilers started flying
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>>174012764
They're both games that came out and claimed they have a message, something to say.
Nier Automata's message is uncompromised while P5 invalidates nearly all of its themes.
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>>174012795
...Is that even mathematically possible to beat?
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>>174012808
The only time I feel like I need to drag out stuff like that is when I'm trying to compare how the magic crap in this series works between games. Because the magic is all explained by "Shit's symbolic and part of the CU."
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>>174012768
>You will never be the Carmen of Sumaru
>>
>Pre-screens Ann for a boyfriend the first time he meets her
>Gets social link points when you say that you want the ladies to love you
>Leaves you alone with your girl on Valentine's Day
Is Sojiro /ourguy/?
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>>174012902
Yeah, just saying in case you were new. People are gonna be discussing the tweeessts

>>174012915
Who cares
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>>174012781
>h-he berated me on basic decency about the game we're talking about. I know, I'll call him a cuck lol XD
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>/pg/ shits on people like Dantis for weeks before release because "LMAO YU AVATAR FUCK P4!!!!!!"
>now they are echoing his exact same points and criticisms of P5
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>>174012915
>P5 invalidates nearly all of its themes
Yeah I could see this meme being pushed pretty hard in the coming days
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>>174012998
I don't remember Sojiro interacting with Anne at all. And believe me, I paid attention to Anne.
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>>174012759
>>you actually subjected yourself to Haru's dub voice by choice
I mean, even if I were to hate Haru's voice with a burning passion, how would I know that before 5/6 of the game is over?
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>>174012678
He answered your question
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>>174012969
Hey, you're the one that asked for ideas, I'm just spitballing here
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>>174013085
It's when Yusuke moves in with you for like five minutes. They have a chat downstairs before she comes up to Joker's room with the rest of the group.
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>>174013072
it's almost as if /pg/ is made up of different people with different opinions
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>>174013090
>>174012759
I think the way Haru yells "Persona" is cute as fuck
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>>174012696
I thought the type of people here consider all works and all creators to be hacks.
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>>174013072
>hey guys are you enjoying the gaf shitposting? probably not but I'll join in anyway
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>>174013075
The sad part is that they can't elaborate

>>174013085
After Madarame confesses and Yusuke stays over
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>>174011605
I mean shit senpai look at dub Chie. Vanilla P4 and everything sounds radically different. There's clearly a precedent for them to do it
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>>174013075
see >>174011614
Not even P4 handicaps itself this much. P5 constantly has you scratching your head or sighing in frustration as the game shoots itself in the foot again so another manchild otaku can wank for a few seconds.
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>Welcome to "my" velvet room
>Igor has always referred to it as "The" velvet room before
Things become much more noticeable in hindsight
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>>174013118
I wasn't the asker, anon, just a concerned lurker
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>>174013138
I want to try it but not any time soon.

>>174013213
>>174013146
Huh. Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention.
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>>174013249
lol
>>
JUNPEI SUCKS
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Is there a list of items that each Persona gives you upon Itemize?
>>
P5 is such a massive disappointment. I get that feeling of emptiness like I did beating P3 and P4, but it's the bad kind. This game just feels hollow.
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>>174013225
You could keep pretending that post has even the slightest shred of merit to it, or you couldn't and we could talk about something actually substantial. Your choice.
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So in conclusion to those of mildly expansive interests.

P5 >>>>> FFXV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Berseria

Right?
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Unused voice clips from the cutscene after the second traitor boss fight (all stored in e423_001.awb/.acb):
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ULj6oNsPjP
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1QxtEOSRgis
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ulVKSmydnR
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1SomFejaunQ
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1QBWGqJHFE8
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1GfyaB7MkHo
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1X1RQdwG6ZR
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1xiFgBZ9yXm
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1YNetUg2CCW
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1TGiNxVVWKn
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1aqe9SVqsoj
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ZuyaHtpw2L
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ZJBKPfJtQD
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1LcES4Q8MIw
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1aEwtynmvG9
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1R1rW27qwHJ

And some quick notes on their placement among the other lines and things like that:
https://pastebin.com/7iPXJCNr

Do you guys want me to post the Japanese versions too? Won't be able to provide translations to go with them right now, but they might be interesting to hear despite that.
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>>174013181
>ywn marry this cake and have her to the household chores for you while you shower her with love and affection, cuddling after a long day and just enjoying the feel of each other in your arms
Welp, time to go kill myself, I guess
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>>174013346
lmfao
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>>174013336
Thanks for the blog

>>174013346
i didn't play berseria because the traitor is even more obvious than groo
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>>174013346
Add maybe 2 or 3 arrows in between P5 and XV and you're right.
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>>174013336
My only complaint really is how much you're railroaded in this one. Persona 4 had the same issue for the first 10 hours. Persona 3 basically had you in the basic game loop within the first two to four hours.
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>>174013346

Put Berseria ahead of FFXV
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>>174013346
Berseria > P5 > FFXV
Berseria has the balls to stick to its themes and executes them to the very end, even if it makes female characters do evil and bad things (Persona doesn't like this).
FFXV is the only objectively bad game of those 3
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>>174013354
fuck off
P5 is shit and no one cares anymore, this is a P2/P4 general now
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>instakilled right after the maze
There was no safe room or anything and that's like, half an hour, I picked up 3 new personas and leveled 4 times
Give me a fucking break
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>>174013309
You best take that back, motherfucker. Them's fighting words
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>>174013384
She's the only one in the game I would fuck. I just like that sort of messy hair look.
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>>174013216
Why would I even imply English VAs? I was talking about Japanese VAs. I apologize if my comment said otherwise.
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>>174013354
Huh? An entire scene was scrapped out like this?
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>>174013346
More like P5 > Berseria >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FFXV.
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>>174013213
>The sad part is that they can't elaborate
I generally don't expect them to. Especially when people just seem like they want to shit on something.

>>174012834
P4 took like 2-3 years because it was made almost entirely using P3's assets. They had very little they needed to change. P5 needed everything built from the ground up and then business got in the way as things were going on. There was apparently talks about what form the game would even take for quite some time, if a full console release was even possible.

>I agree, for the most part and didn't mean it is a bad game by any means, it's just...A disappointment. it's hard to explain because I think it's quite exceptional, but it could've been more
If P5 had something working against it, it was 9 years of expectations and speculation.
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>>174013465
>maze
>half an hour
Do you know how to press L1? Darkness doesn't mean shit to thief vision.
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>>174013346
Berseria was pretty fucking terrible, yeah. The defense force back when it came out in Japan was hysterical.
I'll agree to this.
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>>174013425
The traitor twist is deal with in 3 hours whereas P5 builds up an obvious traitor for 70 hours and assumes its audience is too retarded to notice
>>
what do futaba's feet smell like
>>
Wow the people Kawakami was paying are straight up pieces of human garbage

There are so many absurdly evil people in P5, it's not even just adults like those shit posters were saying, even most of the teens are pretty much complete scum bags
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>>174013354
>this was all scrapped
Why
>>
I know everyone hates the awakened Personas (And for good reason, fuck getting Susanoo/some rendition of Hermes for the 3rd fucking time) but Ryuji's is fucking dope and fits him perfect;y

>Electric Sun Wukong with a fucking punk mohawk.
>Fits the blond carnal monkey description
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>>174013564
None of you're fucking business
>>
>did shido palace in one day

It's not hard it's just annoying, I'm sure metroidvania fans would love it.
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>>174013354
Thank you based anon

JP would be lovely if not too much trouble.

When will we fuck Goro
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>>174013354
Nice. Thank you anon.
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>>174013547
I was going around finding the chests and trying to pick up some new personas
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>>174013465
Which maze anon?
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>>174013571
Right? It almost feels like a parody. It feels like a game written by a 12 year old going through puberty and raging on a bad day.
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>>174013624
old onions
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>>174013562
Why the fuck does everyone assume that the traitor was supposed to be some big twist? It's meant to be obvious as shit, the twist is how the Thieves take him on a ruse cruise because of how much of an obvious traitor he was.
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>>174013624
*your

>>174013523
Sorry anon, I got her already >>174008138
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>>174013354
>Morgana calling him Goro instead of Akechi
huh
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>>174013645
Goro fucked himself
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>>174013617

I don't mind most of the awakened Personas.

But that fucking candy skull. Holy fucking christ is it bad.
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>>174013571
I think the one thing that makes P5 hit the most emotionally is that a LOT of the conflicts are some very realistic shit that happens often in real life.

I had a women's basketball coach get fired for sexually harassing his players at my HS so the Kamoshida arc really hit with me
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>>174013674
Casino
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>>174013713
That wasn't put across very well if this many people aren't getting it
>>
>treasure shadow has a rare item according to treasure skimmer
am I expected to steal from it then?
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>>174012889
I'm not sure if people are seriously taking the autism jokes seriously here. People do know that no one in the series is said to be autistic and not everyone who is a little weird or socially awkward is autistic, right?
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>>174013713
You're literally replying to a shitposter
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>>174013716
You can't claim two people. I claim her maid self.
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>>174013759
And then everybody proceeded to constantly hit and perv on the girls as a joke that everybody laughed at, right?

Fuck Persona 5. Fuck Hashino. This game is disgusting.
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>>174013770
Right, hadn't updated to see you clarifying, assumed you forgot about third eye
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>>174013617
>when you realize Ryuji is a shonenfag and his personas double as references to One Piece and Dragon Ball
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>>174013801
"autism" means basically nothing on the internet
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>>174013758
The shitty transformer is the worst one. They took a unique persona with a unique animation and turned it into a transformer movie tier clusterfuck.
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>>174013801
Yusuke genuinely seems autistic though.
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>>174013758
>Drilltits
>Over based smoker whore

>Punk Goku
>Over I'm on a Boat

>Ugly Transformer that doesn't transform

>Yet another Susanoo
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>>174013758
Some that are at least a logical extension of the first one like Makoto's are okay. But still, what the shit, Susanoo was not known for his thievery for fuck's sake. And I don't even know what the fuck Ann's is supposed to be
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>>174013835
t. NeoFAG
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>>174013560
There is legitimately one good Tales game.

Until P5 released, what else were you supposed to really play for JRPGs other than mass produced Tales garbage pumped out one after another anyway.

What do you do now if you beat P5 anyway? I feel it's unironically what RE4 was to TPS as JRPGs are concerned.
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>>174013896

Oh yeah, I forgot about Makoto's transformer.

Why do you bring back the dark memories?
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>>174013905
>Yet another Hermes
A rose by any other name
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>>174013827
The clothes don't make the waifu, dude
If you're this superficial about her, you don't deserve her
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>>174013932
you wait until all the other jrpg developers start ripping it off as a new standard for what will make money
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>>174013909
If Makoto got a proper transforming animation and they gave it a real transformer design it would be GOAT. Too bad they completely fucked it.
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Persona 5 Crimson

>Party Members: Marie, Goro, Mishima
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>>174013354
this is all interesting but i doubt it'd go anywhere like the cut yosuke romantic shit
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At the turn of the century we had games like Persona 2 and SMT Nocturne. Games with some unique, heartfelt storytelling that weren't afraid to make some bold statements about society, or establish a unique chilling atmosphere that's difficult to find in games. Everything felt cohesive.

Now we live in the era of P5 and SMT Apocalypse. Where every point the game tries to make is buried in fanservice and dropped story threads, some of which directly harm the point the game is struggling to make. Where they shove 8-year old looking girls in your face, call them 14, and keep asking "Why don't you want to fuck them man?"

This company has fallen so far since Tadashi and Cozy left and Kaneko effectively retired. It's incredible how people laud them for anything when they're no better than Compile Heart trash. It's even more sinister because of that.
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>>174013932
>Until P5 released, what else were you supposed to really play for JRPGs other than mass produced Tales garbage pumped out one after another anyway.
Pokemon?
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Blushing Takemi-sensei
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>>174013905

Hey Anon, I never said they were good, only that they didn't particularly bother me because I have low expectations and standards for acceptable.

Except forcandy skull.
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Stopped by one of my biggest haters interrogation rooms yesterday, just to make sure that joker was dead. #DieHatersDie #RIPPhantoms
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>>174013835
I'm sorry to break it to you, but people hit on women. I know no one in their right mind would ever hit on you, but you're not everybody, and thank the lord for that.

What you don't seem to understand is that there is a very, very big difference between what Kamoshida did and what Ryuji does. Kamoshida harassed a bunch of women and bullied people. Ryuji is a little bit of a pervert to a girl he's known for years.
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>>174013987
>ever using the cat after Makoto gets Mediarahan
I'm laffin'
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>>174013835
>And then everybody proceeded to constantly hit and perv on the girls as a joke that everybody laughed at, right?
Not really.
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>>174013909
Hecate was a Greek goddess of magic. She started the idea of magic witches that make deals at crossroads. I don't remember her ever being a Trickster in mythology though.
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@174014091
>trying so hard for virtually no reason
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>>174014064
>Marie
Please no. She was shitty enough in Golden.
>Goro
Yes, let's ruin his ENTIRE ARC by bringing him back from the dead.
>Mishima
>letting the zero have a persona
In conclusion, shit taste all around, but it made me reply.
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>>174013624
Futaba would let her boyfriend smell her feet
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>>174013354
I'd like to hear the JPN versions. Thanks, anon.
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>>174013758
Candy skull if god awful. Not even if her Persona was the Catrina would it work because it's so damn slipshod.

>>174014121
When did I ever imply I was using Morgana? I was just saying that's our third fucking Hermes. Just because it's named Mercurius doesn't mean it isn't Hermes. Learn your damn Shakespeare.
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>>174014153
Sorry meant to respond to >>174014091
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>>174013904
Not in the actual sense.
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>>174013530
No, the scene itself still exists (though it's got some translation problems in the localization). But it's got a pretty large chunk of unused lines pointing toward them adjusting the scene a few times as development went on (there's also a few used lines that are listed at the very end of the audio bank, which likely means they added those later than the rest).

There's a few other scenes with oddities like that, but this is the only one I've found so far that had a pretty significant chunk of scrapped/unused dialogue.

>>174013645
Alright. Give me a little while and I'll get the Japanese lines up too, just need to dig them up again.

>>174013605
This is just a guess based on what I've noticed while digging through the files, but I get the impression that a few things weren't fully set in stone yet as they were developing the game, so a few scenes were adjusted later on. Most of the time, that just led to them adding extra lines, but in this case it looks like they rewrote parts of the scene a few times.
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>>174014023
Isn't Tales already doing that in some way.

Berseria flat out took and copy pasted Morgana into their game. I'm surprised they weren't sued or some shit.
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>>174014153
How can you play Nocturne and then play Apocalypse and act like they're even from the same series. P5 is starting to become like that too. They "steathily" shove all this fanservice and pandering in your face and people wave it off as fluff, but it's the core of the experience, there's nothing else there.
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>>174014218
I know it's a Hermes, but I didn't use it. The design at least works for cartoon cat, but yes, they need new shit
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Joker having 1 voiced line every 5 anime cutscenes make his silence during the rest of them feel way more weird
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>>174014242
What translation problems are in the localization, might I ask?
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>>174014150
She stole something from Hera and gave it to Europa.

She chills with Hades in the Underworld.
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>>174014023
I'm sure it's only a matter of time. I think Persona has had something of an influence. Maybe.

Then again, JRPG developers are some of the most insulated people in the world. They do things their way.
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>>174014272
holy shit what are you talking about
I didn't even play Berseria, just got bored and read the plot summary and some of the skits and Morgana is literally nothing like Berseria's mascot.
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>>174014365
P5fags have a bigger persecution complex than P2fags
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50% of P5 npcs and characters are absurdly evil

50% of /pg/ are hilariously absurd shit posters

This is starting to freak me out
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>>174014172
>Yes, let's ruin his ENTIRE ARC by bringing him back from the dead.

Never stopped Atlus before.

>>174014309
Swear to God if there is another damn Susanoo in P6...
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>>174014436
>the game ends with the website @ 50%
holy shit
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>>174014091
>At the turn of the century we had games like Persona 2 and SMT Nocturne. Games with some unique, heartfelt storytelling
>Nocturne
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>just started NG+
>have to sit through like five hours of cutscenes even on fast forward to get to the gameplay

i might just try to finish Persona 4 again since I quit halfway last time
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Goemon > Loki > Arsene > Carmen > Captain Kidd > Satanael > Johanna > Anat > Hecate > Son Goku > Mercurius > Milady > Robin Hood > Zorro > Susanoo >
Astarte > Necronomicon > Prometheus
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>>174014497
I'm referring to P2 first and then Nocturne after that. Same for P5 and Apocalypse. Try actually addressing my points, shitposter.
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>>174013932
Nope, I'll have to disagree here. I hate Abyss, I'm a Symphonia babby. Yes, Symph didn't age graciously, but Abyss had a, IN MY OPINION, bad story and started the free run to win cancer. Vesperia is probably the objective best, but there'll always be contrarians
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>>174014527
>not waiting for free swimsuits before playing the game again
anon...
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>>174014436
50% of /pg/ will have its heart stolen.

>>174014469
>Never stopped Atlus before.
MC
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>>174014606
I wanted to try and get into the main gameplay loop at least so that the save file was ready for when all the DLC was ready but I'm starting to realize this game interrupted the gameplay loop too much for that to be viable
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>>174014408
that's not even a persecution complex that's literal insanity
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>Igor starts talking about Joker meeting the masked guy someday
>Next morning Goro pops up for the first time in forever
I hate Atlus's storytelling
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>>174014580
> Vesperia

Such a shame Troy Baker went insane and not only did Persona lose Kanji (not that it matters since P4 is over), but the definitive version of Vesperia is lost forever.
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>>174014764
Tomorrow is someday. You can't deny that.
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>>174014823
>p4 is over
just you wait
turns out the reason that p5 was delayed is because they kept making p4 spin offs in their free time
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>>174014957
>10th anniversary of P4 is next year
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HEAR AND OBEY THE WORD OF THE LORD
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>>174015052
>August is literally just announcements for P4 stuff
>P5 isn't even mentioned
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Why is Shadow Kaneshiro purple?
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>>174014326
For this set of scenes in particular? I went over that last weekend here: https://pastebin.com/MNjTvvXE

I need to go back and tweak a few of the translations a little more once I have the time for that, but if you're wondering what issues there are with this set of scenes in the localization, the notes in that Pastebin should hopefully be a good explanation.

In general? It's a very obvious rushjob. It's serviceable overall (although the first arc has a significant problem with stilted dialogue), but just from the scenes I've taken a look at for others, there's more than a few lines where they missed a key part of a sentence, messed up continuity with a different line (both in the same scene and in later ones), translated some things too literally and others too liberally, mistranslated some things and translated others inconsistently, and sometimes added details to sentences that weren't there originally (and sometimes contradicts other lines, even in the same scene). Some of those issues get pretty bad, but it's nothing that couldn't have been fixed by taking some extra time to doublecheck and adjust the translation.
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>>174015098
Nah. He's kind of a dick.
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Is pygmalion /pg/'s collective persona?
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where did all the angry (You)s go
this circlejerk stuff is boring
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ending spoiler:
>Spend entire game telling Sae what happened, mentioning everyone by name, including her sister, on camera, and admitting to being phantom thieves
>"Right, so in summary, you and your friends are the phantom thieves"
>"Right."
>BAD END


What the fuck? What the hell was I supposed to say?
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Who did less wrong? Nyx or Yaldy?
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>>174014957
I think it's pretty obvious?

Wada flat out stated he was working on a game in several interviews, and literally all he does is spinoffs.
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>>174015146
na, it's Slime
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>>174015113
they wanted the Grimace audience
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>>174015170
Yaldy
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>>174015170
Nyx isn't even awake for most of the game
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>>174014823
>went insane
Is this "insane" like David Sarif's voice actor again or legit cookyloo
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>>174015164
...You were supposed to be a passive aggressive fuck.
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>>174014823
>Troy Baker went insane
he what? Isn't he Yusuke?
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So you're in Hawaii and the only thing you do is stand at the beach and ask about the PT?
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>>174015164
snitches get stitches
>>174015345
Mercer is Yusuke
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>>174015345
That's Matt Mercer, who I think is friends with Baker and who's voice is often compared to Baker's as well.
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>>174015164
NO SNITCHING.
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>>174015164
Why didn't you ask Sae to switch the guard's gun with a nerf gun?
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Honestly why did this game even need Futaba? Her entire arc felt like a huge sidetrack and she's a shit navigator in a game that doesn't even really need one in the first place. They could have at least put her in earlier if they were insistent on having a navigator. Otherwise I felt like she should have been combat capable instead.
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>>174015363
no you also talk to Ryuji about how much his life sucks
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>>174015408
>>174015430

But you snitch anyways immediately after when you say "Not a teammate" to indicate Goro?
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>>174011185
>Mishima
>Getting him to rank 9
>Telling him you'll be his girlfriend
>Never seeing him again
>Never respond to any of his texts
>Fuck someone else
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>>174015475
Goro snitched first, you are countersnitching
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>>174015098
Fuck off YHVH
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>>174015475
Outing a traitor isn't snitching
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>>174015470
Because Sojiro needed a dimension added to his character?
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who the fuck is Johanna
>>174015345
No it's Matt Mercer, the guy that replaces Troy Baker in all the roles he ditches
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So, does anyone have the folder containing all of these co-op cut-ins? I checked the Resources dump and I only saw the ones that need to be composited.
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>>174015470
>huge sidetrack
>literally the first arc that dealt with the actual plot of the game
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Why wasn't the Protag voiced by kiefer sutherland?
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>Futaba can't even scan enemies
>Tells me to guess and check

Thanks a lot
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>>174015608
>who the fuck is Johanna

A legendary first papess, but she never existed.
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>>174015363
That's what you get for not fucking your hot teacher
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>>174015470
They wanted the 2ch crowd
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>>174015648
Because casting Master Hand was clearly the best course of action
no lie Master Hand was probably in the top five VAs in the dub
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>tfw it was all part of your master plan
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>>174015558
>>174015574
She asks who the traitor is but when you say "Not a teammate", you indicate that everyone she listed IS a teammate, and the only person not named is Goro. Thereby snitching on everyone she listed anyways as teammates.
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Who is the best girl and why is it futaba?
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>>174015170

Nyx, easy question. Yaldy rigged the game to get the answer it found desirable to justify its ends, whereas Nyx as an honest to god force of nature that acted according to its role.
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>>174015698
>we could've gotten another sexy aoi yuuki character
>instead we got another boring loli aoi yuuki
Why?
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Man, why are you people even fussing over the dub when you can play the game Japanese?

They got every A-Lister in anime ever except Wakamoto somehow.
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>>174015648
>Copying Metal Gear
Because that went so well for Kojima, right?
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>>174011185
>no No Good Tora
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>>174015470
There's a lot of things a game doesn't necessarily need but their removal doesn't inherently make it better.
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>>174015736
He barely has to talk though he even had to say less Persona names than Johnny Young Bosch or Yuri Lowenthal
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>>174015813
desu the few scenes venom had talking were really good he just didn't talk much

Still not a great choice
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How do I spoil the ending of p5 to a friend
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>>174011186
i dont get the dub hate
its on the same par as p4's imo
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>>174015874
The amount of Personas in P5 was disappointing, even with the DLC ones.
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>>174015795
It's the shorts.
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>>174015947

Satan Saves Christmas
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>>174015947
Igors voice
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>>174015813
If he didn't spend 80+ million he'd still be at Konami right now
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>>174015951
That's not a compliment.
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>>174015947
igor fake
goro trairor and kill
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>have to work 3 times at the convenience store to get the request

Fuck you, Mishima, I will do your cooperation on NG+
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>>174015947
demiurge is pretending to be Igor, and the Cat and the Lolis have been manipulated to forget this fact
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>>174015947
Unspoilers are better

Tell him Morgana is the traitor
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>>174015170
>Nyx
>the personification of the result of entropy and oxidation
>not active, only acts when evoked by the wishes of mankind

>Yaldy
>"god" born out of people complacency
>rigs it's own game to justify doing what it wants
>specifically chooses a deranged fuck to give magic stabby stabby kill powers
How can it even be a contest?
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When is persona 6 coming out?
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>>174016008
did people not like the p4 dub
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>>174016040
>>>174015947 (You)
>demiurge is pretending to be Igor, and the Cat and the Lolis have been manipulated to forget this fact
Thanks
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Doujin about Gaudy female student seducing the kind teach when?
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>>174016096
tomorrow
happy birthday anon
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>>174016056
But Joker is the traitor.

>>174016096
20XX
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>>174016096
After I get a Haru wife irl

Wish me luck anon
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>Yaldy starts shitting his pants when Stan arrives

I expected more out of a god
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>>174016216
Probably because he's just larping as a god and bit off more than he could handle
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>>174013425

Tales traitors are always obvious, and it usually doesn't matter because they're back on the team 5 minutes later anyway.
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>>174016081
>makes a bet with himself

He doesn't even have a waifu to make erectile dysfuction jokes at him.
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Elizabeth > Caroline > Lavenza > Theo > Justine > Margaret

Admit it, jabroni marks.
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>>174015813
But it did. Hayter was the only one seriously complaining after launch. In addition to that, Kiefer's voice is a lot closer to BB's MGS4 voice too. Having Hayter voice BB was a mistake in the first place, especially since SS isn't even supposed to be identical to him genetically.
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>>174016216
The Holy Grail is never as great as advertised.
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>You feel brotherly affection form Shinya
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>tfw I expected a depressing ending
>thought in order to save everybody Joker was going to remove himself from everybody's cognition or some shit and have everybody forget the PTs or some shit
>Morgana's whole speech about the world being rewritten was prepping me for that
>everybody is ok and the fucking cat comes back

THANK

GOD
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>>174016452
Yes... brotherly.
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>>174016392
I admit nothing.
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>In some Gnostic traditions, Satanael is said to be an angel that once served the Demiurge. He rebelled when he realized that the Demiurge was not the true God and granted humanity the knowledge to liberate themselves from the Demiurge.

POTTERY
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So is Elizabeth still trying to find a way?
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>you literally develop stockholm syndrome when morgana leaves to check out futaba's NEETdome

I'm livid
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>>174016306
> Always back on the team 5 minutes later anyway

:(
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>>174016541
It's impossible
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>>174016552
I know it's an outlandish thought but maybe you're actually too tired to do things all the time and memes aren't real
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>>174016403
I for one would've liked to see BB go out with a bang, using the familiar rasp everyone was used to (just not that PW-tier throat cancer shit)
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>>174016306
Does the berseria one rejoin?
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>>174016552
I want to check out that NEETdome.
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Tatsuya is handsome!
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>>174016594
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WIN IT~!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>174016452
>draw a sister
>call it a brother
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>Everyone is linked to Shido except Kamoshida
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>>174016715
OR MAYBE LOSE IT AAAALL~!
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>>174016632
The one in Berseria doesn't leave they just find out then forgive him since it wasn't his fault
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So in the end where all your SLs band together to get you out of juvie, what does the politician do? Never maxed him out since I was too busy maxing social stats to get a job.
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>>174016791
>his
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>>174013425
Eleanor isn't really a traitor because she wasn't smart enough to be able to actually hide it from the cast and eventually comes around to their side before doing anythinh. At first contact she was exposed and the part literally watches her talk with the antagonist about the plan
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>>174016392
Margaret > Lizabeth > Caroline = Justine > literal whos
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>>174016552
>no option to rape her while she's out of it

Shit game.
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>>174016692
Even protags are most handsome protagonists. Odd manlet fuccboi protags need not apply.
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hey kid you want some deals?
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>>174016802

makes a speech about you to rally the public

he's a bro
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>>174016802
He gives a speech in front of the Diet building in your favor.
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>>174016791
And doesn't it turn out most of the information he sends is worthless anyway?

>>174016723
It'll turn out one of Shido's mistresses' sisters was getting molested by him or something.

>>174016802
He speaks to a bunch of politicians outside the diet to rally support.
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>>174014617

If it wasn't for the fact that Yu was even more popular and most of the spinoffs are Persona 4 focused anyway they would have.

And they still brought him and Shinjiro back for Q.
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>>174016892
Anata no~
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>>174016870
God I wish Margaret had gotten a proper slink or some outings like Elizabeth. I mean you get that nice confirmed kiss at the end but still. She was a bombshell.
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>>174016873
>next protag will be tall and handsome
can't wait desu
don't fuck it up, Wada
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>>174016802
> not maxing out one of the best and most useful s.links in the game
Come on Anon, Taro is awesome
>>
I played through the whole game, yet the biggest mystery has yet to be answered: how is that lardass even alive at the beggining of the game
>that impossible anatomy
>those triple folds
>those stick shins
How has his heart not imploded when we get to Shujin?
His is the only heart the PT don't steal because the group wouldn't be able to carry it out of the Palace
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i actually like that if shido just let joker walk away originally he would have just succeeded with no opposition
>>
>BURN MY DREAD
>I REACH OUT FOR THE TRUTH
>YOU'LL NEVER SEE ME COMIN
pick one
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>>174017039
>i actually like that if shido just let joker walk away originally he would have just succeeded with no opposition
Same
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>>174017050
LIKE THE SHINING STARS THAT LIGHT THE PATH WHENEVER ITS DARK
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>>174017080
This one
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>>174017002
TEREBI NI
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>>174016954
>>And they still brought him and Shinjiro back for Q.
Bringing someone back by revisiting them before they die doesn't quite count in this context.

In the end, MC is going to be Uncle Ben of Persona. No matter what magic bullshit goes on, he'll stay dead.
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>>174017013
180cm+ master race protag will arise.
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>>174016943
Yup, he does confirm Velvet is best waifu though
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>>174017050

I'm not a princess.
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Would the Thieves ever genuinely forgive and accept Goro considering they were suspecting him since pancakes?

I mean Tales is shit, but pic related betrays you some five times and even tries to personally kill you but he's accepted (with enormous reluctance) in the end.
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>>174017039

I wonder how much he got out of the lawsuit.
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>>174017021
Namatame a shit. A SHIT!
TORAnosuke, on the other hand, is the broest of bros
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>>174017038
Dr. Eggman?
>>
Anyone got a full gift guide?
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>Ate big bang burger challenge
>Got big bang burger reward
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>>174017102
JIKA NETTO TANAKAAAAAAA~
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>>174017115
Didn't Sugita talk shit about Alvin but he said he can't leave Goro alone? kek
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>>174017103
>Goro will be the Jason Todd

Prepare yourself.
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>>174017110
Well, everyone knew that.

>>174017114
But are you a cutie girlfriend?

>>174017115
Probably not. At least in the long run. At best, I think he'd get something akin to what the IT did for Adachi: Play by the rules and accept your punishment.
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>>174017151
>Master Plan confirmed
The true hero of the story
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>>174017115
>genuinely forgive
no, we already know haru, ryuji and makoto won't forgive him, and they shouldn't anyway

>and accept Goro
they already tried to ask him to join them in changing shido's heart, yes they would

>they were suspecting him since pancakes?
that's only morgana and arguably joker, the others didn't know something's up until they let them know after the blackmail scene in october
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>>174017168
nope
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To think I waited so long to befriend hifumi, christ
>>
>>174017115
Probably not. Joker MIGHT if he did something absolutely fucking ridiculously to earn it.
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>>174017039
Doesn't Warden/Demiurge/Yaldy imply that he was manipulating all of the events from the start in order to make sure that Goro and Joker would meet?
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>>174017253
Based Sugita.
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>>174016860
?
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>>174017050
>Tan tan tan ta taaaa
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>>174017050
BURRRRRRRRNNNNNNN
MY
BREEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDD

Persona 3 had the best OST
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stop talking about P5 holy shit
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>>174017416
Sorry dad
>>
>>174017294
Ryuji wouldn't forgive him even if he allowed him to punch him in the face as hard as possible once?
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>>174017294
How are they going to accept him if they won't forgive him? They'd just be putting up with him.
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>>174016632

Yep.

The only Tales traitor that never has the option to rejoin is Leon, who was the first when it was actually a surprise (and he still ends up joining the new group for the sequel) and Ras in Eternia who's a blatant temporary character only in the party for 5 minutes.

Taking to almost parody levels with Alvin who betrays you 8 times and still comes back.
>>
>>174017416
Yeah, let's not talk about the game that came out less than two weeks ago!
what are you, fucking stupid?
>>
>>174017050
But burn my bread isn't even the normal battle theme, its BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY
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>>174017416
Piss off you had 8 years to talk about P4
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english or jap audio, please help me decide
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>>174017375
>Nyarly guided Shido's dick to Ms. Akechi back in 1998 to prepare as a failsafe in case the NWO or Kirijo shit fails
>Yaldy takes over and guides Shido's dick to some slut in Sumaru City
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>>174016461
>Exected a depressing ending after Sae tells you You need to go to prison to save your friends
>Christmas eve is absolutely soul shattering
>Then everyone who you ever befriended bands together to rally public support to save you
>Each even gets their own incredibly heartwarming scene of rallying the public to your side or helping you in their own way, one even using their old Yakuza ties to make sure nobody would DARE fuck with you in prison
>mfw that whole scene
>mfw you get to spend one more day with your waifu before it's time to go home

People kept saying 5's ending was shit. Seems people are fucking stupid.
>>
>>174017513
Japanese audio, this isn't a real question

You're a fucking shitter if you choose the garbage English dub
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>>174017513
When in doubt, remember: you're already a weeb for playing a japanese simulator game, might as well embrace it
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>>174017524
Where do the P4 gods fit in all this
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>>174017530
>Seems people are fucking stupid.
you're just figuring this out now
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>>174017513
Japanese is overall better but if you don't really care English is fine with a few exceptions
>>
>>174017530
Only problem with P5's ending was the fucking fake out death bullshit
they do it four fucking times holy shit dflkjdfhkjasdhflkajsdflakjsd
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>>174017408
>Best OST
>Anything with Lotus Juice.

No.
>>
New tred wen
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>>174017513
English audio with Japanese subtitles.
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>>174017473

8 times?

He's even got Kain Highwind beat, damn
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So do you think they should change up the Velvet Room theme next time? I mean I love it, but I'm kinda excited to see how they could remix it while still keeping the overall melody like say Majima from Yakuza or something
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I landed that bullshit "You already confessed to everything now I'm just asking to repeat yourself, and if you do it's an AUTO BAD END" ending but now I feel like I don't deserve to play the rest of the game because if it was really me I would have died
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>>174017603
they don't
they're as irrelevant as P4 itself is
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>>174017603
Uh... Izanami guide's Shido's dick to Inaba for a campaign and runs over Mrs. Dojima?
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>>174017603
Izanami has been at it for possibly centuries before scooby gang told her to get fucked, so nowhere.
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>>174017530
Not gonna lie, zero's scene was one of the most heart-rending. The sheer desperation displayed made me not bully him on the last day (the only respite he'll get from me)
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>>174017675
>implying there will be another game featuring the Velvet Room
this entire fucking game was just an elaborate ruse to not recast Igor
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>>174017675
>P3 had the Blues in the Velvet Room
>P4 had the Electronica in the Velvet Room
>P5 had... ????
>>
>>174017663
And here I thought no one would beat Kain.
>>
>>174017663

Most of those are just "oh yeah I was leaking info to these other guys but I won't do it anymore promise" things though.

He only actively leaves the party and fights against you once.
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>>174017774
P6 will just feature Igor's cousin, Eye-gor.
>>
>p4
>Lets make our secret hideout a crowded department store food court
>p5
>Lets make our secret hideout the accessible to anyone school rough
Why are all these kids so fucking lame? Are there no shitty abandoned building to hang out inside in Japan?
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>>174017115
Joker would because he's the righteous protagonist self insert. Just like now Yu is the only one who isn't phased by Adachi's presence in Ultimax because he's his slink (also fujobait).

In any case, I doubt they would make Joker hate Goro. He's his only 1/14th decent bond.
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>>174017847
>not Igorgana
>"Joker, let's not fuse Personas now"
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>>174017530
>>
I want to dump thick loads into Ann and impregnate her!
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I LOVE MAKOTO

GOD DAMMIT WHY HAVE I FALLEN FOR THE WAIFU MEME I WAS NEVER LIKE THIS

FUCK ME
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>>174017879
How about a shrine? I heard they're hot these days.
>>
>going through 2 threads a day

slow /pg/ when?
>>
>>174017050
Unironically LEAVE THIS BALLAD MANLY
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>>174017879
The hideout is like fifteen different places in P5.

>>174017943
>wanting to ruin her curves
you fucking moron
she's not getting them back after all of the cream cheese she eats
>>
>>174017774
I dunno, Margaret probably has nothing better to do. She can take over
>>174017813
Meant the ingame version
>>
>>174017962
in like month when the losers go back to /v/
>>
>>174017953
Delete
>>
>>174017951
Your heart is weak anon, you lack the strength to overcome life's harships
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>>174017530

I was moved and all but it still pissed me off that the cops and politcians who have spent all game being part of the problem cockblock you to keep the thieves heroics underwraps and take the credit.

Also because all that time wasted and no New Years.

Plus I have no faith that things won't go to shit soon again because why trust the people in power not to fuck it up again?
>>
>>174017916
Igorina would be nice, too. Especially if the protagonist needs any organ transplants.

>>174017927
Now we just slap a /pg/ logo on it.
>>
>>174018104

what do you mean by this

not even shitposting
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Unused voice clips from the cutscene after the second traitor boss fight, Japanese version:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0VAhUMcomUY
http://vocaroo.com/i/s03qaU6mYLbB
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0bAIqIvMi6B
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0aLZaXnRtEJ
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0lSNUDO3Wfp
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vTbh0X6BnI
http://vocaroo.com/i/s08ep96vaLNa
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0I3wMgy3Jyo
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0jCrVxyj7Xx
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0N2WQws4uvM
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0x1odMda5Cr
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ZqsOsyBAva
http://vocaroo.com/i/s09tx6pgBLe2
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0PeId2I9QCz
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0DQu4aZ5TWO
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0cL88n38ZhS

For the same voice clips in the localization and notes on their placement/other details, see this post: >>174013354
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>>174017879
Would a bunch of teens hanging out in an abandoned building be less suspicious than kids hanging around a place where kids hang around?
>>
>>174017774
>>174017847
>>174018030
P6 will have a suddenly young Igor like when Heihachi from Tekken's voice actor died they made him take a youth potion and be young in the next gane
>>
>>174018170
It's a twist on the classic P4 "you have obtained the strength of heart to overcome life's hardships, the persona X"
>>
>You Free?
>Actually, don't answer that. You're always free.

Futaba is savage
>>
>>174017879
Apparently Haru's roof garden is a secret so Ryuji wasn't joking when he said nobody used the roof
>>
>>174018251

oh

you're probably right
>>
>>174018182
>>174013354
Doing God's work despite the haters, good shit anon; bless your kind soul
>>
>>174017951
>GOD DAMMIT WHY HAVE I FALLEN FOR THE WAIFU MEME I WAS NEVER LIKE THIS
So, would you say you've never felt like?
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>>174018243
If they watch their tracks they wouldn't be caught and they could set up shit depending on how big the area. They wouldn't have to worry about being in the open
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>>174018182
Thanks, translator-kun.
>>
>>174017115

It'd probably be like Alvin actually. Forgive and let him back into the group, but the atmosphere would clearly be different after all that happened then when they were all happy before all that.

Although there's still the issue of him having to to court for his crimes, unlike the Tales series where the king can just wave his arms and pardon you.
>>
>>174017524
If Nyarly was involved, I would imagine his failsafe would actually have been Futaba considering her palace/persona/lack of known father/ability to gain knowledge/etc.
Maybe as a kind of makeshift Homonculus to be his mortal vessel upon his return or something. Would be dumb as fuck if not played just right though.
>>
>>174018380
BUH DAH DAH, DAH DAH DAAAH
>>
>>174018335
Relax anon, there's much more faggotry you could've commited than falling for the normie bait. Rejoice in not being a Gorofag, you're fine

>>174018380
He never saw it commiiiiiiin'
>>
>>174018418
>girl with Lovecraft Persona is Nyarly's failsafe
I can see it.
>>
Can I make the new thread
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>Yusuke says we should approach asking Sojiro about Futaba cautiously
>hard cut to Joker walking up to Sojiro
>two conversation choices
>Who's Futaba Sakura?
>I want to meet Futaba.

This fucking guy
>>
>>174018547

Joker doesn't give a fuck
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>>174018547
balls of steel
it's not like he had many other options
>>
>Madarame is Azazel
wait did I miss something
>>
>>174018418
He'd have multiple failsafes. If EP didn't work, he had Ikutsuki and Grandpa Kirijo. If P3 didn't work, he still had the kid he had conceived before the events of EP (Goro), and if that one didn't work there was still another (Futaba).

I know it's silly but the first thing I thought when Sojiro said there was no dad, I thought BAOFU because Futaba looks a lot like him. Means nothing but it crossed my mind.
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>>174018798
All the boss fights have demon names, Kamoshida was Asmodeus.
>>
>>174018362
which haters
there was a monumental amount of shitposting in this thread so i'm legit curious
>>
>>174018820
Actually
I thought the same thing too, since her true purseowner is Prometeus
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>>174018915
Huh. I didn't notice.
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>>174017962
when crossboarding stops
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>>174018952

>>174013453

Fine, hater
>>
>morgana gets a new cat portait in the ending
Haha this game
>>
>>174019026
>not having Yusuke run around in his pajamas
ishygddt
>>
New
>>174019096
>>
New tred
>>174019096
>>174019096
>>174019096
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>>174018956
>wire tapping, hacking, has his own online alias, Prometheus, that fucking hair, glasses

Baofu fucking a scientist that basically worked on shadow/collective unconsciousness research doesn't seem too out of character either despite missing Miki, though he forgives himself for it at the end, and Futaba was born in 2001.
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>try to cheat me in battle royale in the casino
>reflect fatty fatty boom boom's attacks
>one shot the three needle fingered chicks
>third giant dude literally kills himself with his own megaton raid
>>
>>174019096
>>
I can't pick between kawakami-sensei and futaba-chan.
How can a man choose between fresh and fly?
I've never been so conflicted in my life.
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>>174026118
Just do 2 simultaneous playthroughs, anon.
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last for makoto is best girl
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last for H A R U
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