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Anime makes you a better Dota 2 player edition.

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/news/updates/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
http://www.dotabuff.com/
http://www.opendota.com/
http://www.datdota.com/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
Streamlink Twitch GUI: https://github.com/streamlink/streamlink-twitch-gui

>COSMETIC ITEM BETTING
http://dota2lounge.com/
http://dota2.vpgame.com/
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>7.00
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can i become a weeb if i'm not a virgin?
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i'm so fucken lonely bros
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yeeet
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how long until we get this feature back
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>>173823983
ummm. dotards? is this true? do cosmetics really make you win more?
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>>173824443
literally pay2win
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>>173824443
As long as the data supports it, it's true. But you'll need to aggregate ALL the winrates for all cosmetics for ALL heroes
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>>173824206
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>>173824690
sorry
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>>173824443
wtf I hate correlation now!
This is the same reason talent tree pick win percentages are useless. If someone picks health on a carry it's because they're fighting a losing game, so of course that's going to have a lower win rate. Doesn't mean it's always the worse choice.
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what's the point of playing dota with vg if they never play or have shitty attitudes? or any game with vg? why is everyone a shitter or some shy sexually repressed faggot? i just want to play some video games
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>>173824174
yeah, its actually hipster to be an ironic weeb.
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Just starting this game. Is it best to random in normal matches to get used to how the game works. Or focus on one hero and git gud with them?

Right now I'm just randoming so I can get the hang of everything and I don't really have a hero I like much.
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>dota 2 can't eclipse the void anymore
i am switching off. goodbye lads.
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>>173826709
see you next week bb
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>>173824814
>Sunsfan got a Golden Frondilo and threw it away
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>>173826615
random

it's good for you
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>ta ends the game with 88 building damage
yeah this game sure is on me as the "only constant"
I'm definitely done for today this was too much
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>>173824814
On what planet is the Dark Moon Roshan worth more than the other two Roshans and legacy couriers?
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> Last 30 Days 544,056.3

just keeps tumbling tumbling tumbling tumbling down
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>>173826990
That's what I figured in the long run. But man am I bad. Like really fucking bad.
Only way to get good is play, I guess.
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>>173826709
k-kilo?
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>>173827596
what?
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>>173824443
Its simple.You bought the cosmetic for the hero you are good at.Noone spend money to buy hat for hero that they suck at
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>>173827839
>Noone spend money to buy hat for hero that they suck at
I really don't agree with that, and I suspect everyone's experience is coherent with mine.
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>>173827839
all the jugg arcana buyers ive been seeing in my games would like a word with you
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Hello anon who came up with the orchid clock build.I gave it a try and it was fun and i won three game in a row with it too.
Do you have any more unusual but effective build or some "think outside of the box" build?
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>>173827446
it was 0.0001% drop chance
the other roshan couriers were if u glitched the event fight and fountain farmed pudge str stacks for 6 hours so you could one shot it with an eblade
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Dotards, I want to play doter but I don't have time to play it.

What should I do?
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why are anti-mage and invoker the biggest retard magnet heroes?
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>>173828049
Well everyone have their favorite/main hero who they really like to play and probaly play a massive amount of game with said hero.This result in the increasing of skill and experience and usually they will perform well with that hero(win a lot,have good kda e.t.c).
When they mastered that hero ofc they will want to showoff and spend lot of money on expensive hat is one of the way
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>>173828809
I usually quickly buy a few cool cosmetics for a hero during the pick phase, if I don't already.
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>>173828589
Play overthrow and other short custom games
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>>173828589
where is her nose
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>>173828706
>slark, bloodcyka mentioned nowhere
found the bait post
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>league of legends fucking won
how did it come to this? all these years and after valve finally makes some changes to the game they fucking kill it
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The more I win, the goofier and worse the teammates get.

I thought it'd be the other way around.

If I play safelane carry all other lanes are lost, or I find out later that I'm solo and despite a 4 stack they don't by a single ward or talk.

I guess I'm I have to play solo offlane, and Axe/Enigma forever.
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>>173829802
LoL didn't win, everyone just lost (us in particular).

I am glad people are saying "Valve made those changes" and not "Icefrog made those changes" though.
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>>173829821
Timbersaw is also fun
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>>173827839
>Noone spend money to buy hat for hero that they suck at

Then why do arcana owners suck so fucking much at their hero?

The last CM I played with had Frost Avalanche, fed 3/22, rushed Dagon 5 the whole game and didn't buy a single ward, even the starting ones.
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hello d2g
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>>173829802
Yeah we fcked up big time.
Just like the cold war,noone really win but in the end the comunist die.
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>>173827580
>The game has finally died the death it deserves
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>>173828706
>anti-mage
Petty narcissists that want to 1v9, but don't know how to farm. Doesn't help that AM is a shit hero though.
>invoker
Extremely hard to master, but pretty easy to play at a basic level. Makes shitters feel like pros.
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>>173830118
The arcana maybe an exception because its too good,have really good graphic and animation so they kinda just fuck it and buy it anyway even if they sucked at that hero.
Just like transformer,we know it suck but we watch it anyway,because robot
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>>173830018
Gonna try him too
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>>173829481
>slark bloodcyka
even if the player sucks the hero will catch up and memeback
can't say that for antimage and invoker
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are we alive?
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>it's another dota 2 coordinator episode
CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>173831848
what is dead may never die
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>>173832148
tfw no cthulhu or dagon based hero
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>>173830171
Hello! ^_^
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how do i play gyro exactly?
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>>173832723
right click on things
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>>173832723
spam homing missile on enemy carry
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why are you guys saying dota is dead?
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>>173834275
trying queuing for a game, literally impossible
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reminder that if your teammate or you dont have the midas alch item to report them.
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>>173834619
jokes on you, I'm not lvl 20. Couldn't queue if I wanted to.
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Name one hero better than Tusk
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>>173824443
Yea, now you know the truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zkHWbNZJEo
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>>173824443
>buy clockwerk taunt
>go on a mega kill streak early
>get a kill by hooking invoker and battery assault gets the kill after my QoP tries to ult for a killsteal, get a double kill through cogs burning a shadowbladed doom
Absolutely hat buying is broken
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>>173834832
death waifu
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>>173834275
Because we wish it were.
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>>173830226
>/d2g were secretly the communists the whole time
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>>173832607

>slardar and slark say they serve deep ones (ie; shadow over innsmouth)
>item named dagon
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>>173836249
>dagon slardar + dagon slark
how good is this two stack?
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>>173836249
the item has fuck all to do with the actual god dagon tho
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>bristle on your team 2 games in a row
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Why is dismember's audio audible to everybody, even through the fog of war?
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>>173836754
>tfw The enemy pick bristleshit I immediately pick silencer (support) just to ruin the bristle's game

That, and probably win the game also.
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>teammate picks winter wyvren

Is this the most sure case of guaranteed -25?
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>>173832607
>>173836540
What would a Dagon based hero even be like though? Dagon's mythology didn't survive the test of time except for second hand references from the Bible, which are they themselves barebones. We really only know Dagon was a worshiped Deity, not how the worship actually happened.
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>instalock invoker mid russian
>instalock tinker mid russian next game
im done
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>>173837339
If you want to go with Lovecraft-style dagon he'd be a giant fish-dude carrying a monolith around that he smacks people with.
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>>173836849
psychological pressure

>FRESH MEAT!
>where the fuck is that fat cunt?

Even when he's on your team he makes you look out for him
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>>173837218
fuck off "mmr assassin" meme spammer
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>>173837565

name a more identifiable weapon of the mmr assassin then WW
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>>173837705
you, dear spic
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>>173837850
If I wanted to mmr assassinate, I would pick WW
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>>173837475
Having an actual god in Dota wouldn't make sense, he'd need to be a champion of Dagon or something. The most powerful creatures in Dota that you can play as are Fundamentals, which were created by a Deity but aren't Deities themselves. There is Zeus, but he's a Demigod and all.

You play as Elder Titan too, but he was part of a creator race, individually he's not apparently that strong.
Actually this has me wondering, what exactly is the power hierarchy in Dotaland? Are Ancients Gods or just Godlike beings? Did they create the Gods even if it was indirectly, or were the Gods other beings that came into being? Are they stronger than Gods? Zeus doesn't know what the Ancients really are so it seems they're either a tier above Gods or a force so old they came before Gods.
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>>173837705
Jungle LC?
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>>173837926
No need to do that, you can just be you and assasinate your own mmr
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>Posters: 43
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>>173838161
I wish there were 42
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>>173838441
I wish there were 41
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>>173838441
what do you mean? speak direct im learning english pls
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>>173838643
42 is the answer to life man. If the poster count has stayed there for the thread's entire lifetime, Dota 2's exact time of death would have been revealed to us all.
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>tfw americans got bored of loosing MMR (because they are bad) and quit dota

Americans killed dota actually, they moved to more casual and simpler games, nintoddler jap shit maybe.
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>>173829821
BETWEEN THE PLANES
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>>173839257
Americans killed Dota by creating Reddit.
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>>173837517
Why would I be afraid if I already know his ult is down?
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>>173839257
you want to know what would save dota?

If they explained how to play the fucking game, instead of leaving simple shit like using a smoke for a gank out of public knowledge. This game has an artificial skill ceiling until you are 4kmmr. Everything below 4k is retards just trying to figure out how everything works. The only part that requires real knowledge of is what every hero is capable of, but with so many heroes only experience will show most people that.
oh wait they are trying that when they added the "learn" tab a couple months ago. Not soon enough to save the player base.
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>>173837475

thats fucking tide hunter and he worships 'maelrawn' who sounds like dagon the god, because from what i saw from a google search dagon is a fish-god and a few references in the bible >>173837339
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>>173839980
Dagon isn't a fish related god, that's a misconception which has since been disproven, but largely because of Lovecraft, has stuck around in popular mythology.
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>>173839541
Americans also killed Dota by deciding to literally balance the game around Reddit's opinion. idgaf if I'm an Americlap, if my own countrymen fuck up the game I call it like I see it
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Uhmm..Why would a god limitate itself by being in a fish form?

It sounds very stupid if you ask me, why is this lovecraft dude so highly regarded?
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>>173837959
I like to imagine they're a force so old, older than gods.
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>>173837959

arc warden's backstory implies that the ancients are a primordial force that was the universe experiencing itself. eventually there was a conflict in its mind that became the radiant and dire ancients and arc warden was a remnant of the division. the ancients came long long before gods in dotaland.

>>173839787

the tutorial in game right now is so bad imo

like purge's 'welcome to dota you suck' guide is extremely out of date, and just a wall of fucking text and is better at showing people how to play
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>>173839787
I like to think that Dota isn't "dying" because of it being hard to learn (because it has always been during its entire existence), but because recent changes are disappointing and making a significant part of the playerbase lose interest in the game.

I will agree with you that the in-game tutorials and help are awful, but I don't think explaining things like smoke of deceit or even stacking really helps new players. Personally I learned of stacking very quickly after starting the game but I didn't really understand it until later on (when I really started to appreciate time efficiency), which may sound idiotic, but I suspect it's similar to the experience of most new players.

Something they really never should have removed was the shopkeeper's quiz. That's actually how I memorized all the recipes. Instead, they should have expanded upon it.
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What if when you logged in to Dota it linked you directly to 4chan.org/vg/dota in a Learning Resources tab. Would that help new players?
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>>173824443
oy vey! the goyim know, shut it down!
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>>173839732
>refresher pudge
NOT SO SMUG NOW ARE YOU
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>>173828049
>muh anecdotes
Can you prove that arcana owners generally suck at the game more?
How do you explain high MMR arcana owners then?

Oh thats right, you can't actually prove shit. That's what I thought
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>grant is a visage player
you ain't my nigga no more
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>>173840106
bitch I played dark corners of the earth, he's literally a giant fish person monster
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>>173840320
the old gods weren't actually gods just ayyy lmaos who people worshiped as gods
just like in real life religions :^)
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>>173843143
man that game was fucking cool
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Who /abilitydraft/ here
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>>173843843

Pretty sure that mode is exclusively for autists and bots
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>>173839257
>loosing
Real talk though I see people misspell losing all the fucking time and I just don't fucking get it. How the fuck is losing so hard to spell?
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>>173843143
>bitch I played dark corners of the earth

BASED OLD MAN FEAR
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>>173844194
you underestimate the boundless literary incompetence of ESLs, anon
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Ive actually started to appreciate these "ded gaem" posts. They actually help keep this on-topic unlike some other generals.
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>>173844965
>autists cling onto the only game they know
it checks out.
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>>173834619
I LITERALLY played like 10 matches today
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>>173845441
delet this valve propaganda
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>"team" "mates" actually think I care about winning
>laughing my ass off watching them literally crying all game wasting their third world lives on this game
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>man who shits the game surprised that his fellow shitters of the Peruvian containment exe are subhumans like he
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>>173846419
Next level.
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>>173846419

Based WW picking MMR assassin
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>755k peak

are they memeing 7.00 patch into 700k peak?
if so, valve is doing a good job!
LOL
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>>173846419
deep inside you actually tried and you're just making up to feel good about yourself
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>>173844194
>>173844319
Isn't loosing the British way to spell this verb?
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>>173847679
loose is an adjective
lose is a verb
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dota turns into a jew and 7.00 is a hitler patch
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>>173847661
>a+clicking down a lane requires effort

kys animeposter
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>>173829821
Just play LC jungle and duel low HP enemies, EZ snowball, best results for carrying shitters in my experience. Once you pick off the enemy hard carry, you're gucci
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dendi
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>>173847805
though to add onto that you can use loose in verb form and say "loosen"
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>>173848005
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>>173847990
which boy is this anime from
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what is with this new bloodseeker dagon + eb meta?
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who are the strongest mids and safelanes for me to spam?
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>>173848848
>new
that shit is old as fuck
here's another fun combo
bloodseeker + zeus
bloodrage the zeus and watch him go
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>team picks 3 late game carries
>pick techies
>fucking medusa offlane
>go with her and steal exp so she doesn't kill herself too much
>manage to mine radiant bottom jungle enough to force enemy team to leave her alone
>AM and CM yell at us for not helping them top after feeding autism bear
>game continues for another 40 minutes or so
>stall enough for them to get farmed
>kill bloodcyka enough to trigger him and afk abandon
>AM chides me for picking techies while he ends

WHY ARE PEOPLE SO MEAN
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stop pretending this game isn;'t dead!
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>>173848726
Uff......I don't know?
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>>173848848
there are 2 builds that boosters and high mmr games are memeing

1. dagon aghs eb
2. silver edge + anything

while bm is picked up situationally.
i wonder if bm can still be amplified though
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>>173848848
>>173849153
I'm surprised Silver Edge isn't already core on Bloodshitter, that 50% damage reduction comes in handy while you are abusing Bloodrage.
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>>173849153
>q yourself
>q enemy
>blademail
???????????????????????????

This seems broken at low mmr
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>>173849263
they fixed blademail being amplified.
i still don't know if bloodrage was affected, maybe i'd give it a shot.
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i didnt know naga's sleep no longer affect roshan wtf
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>>173849531
It's so you can ult and get the last hit as well as aegis and cheese, all before tp'ing out.
Naga is one of those heroes that's balanced, but just no fun to have in your game. On either team.
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>>173829821
BROU-HAH-HAH
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Dotards, where are the Australians?
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>>173850387
white people do not play this game
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>>173850387
At work or underage
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>>173823983
>be successful white man
>"time to get me an objectively inferior dink!"
what is it with guys especially who work in the technology industry doing this? I simply can't understand.
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>>173824443
>buy 6 dollar yellow orc warboss hat for axe
>hit two game ending four man calls in next two games with him

really makes you waagh
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name your:

>worst hero but is fun to play

>best hero but is a chore

go
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>>173851634
>worst but fun
core skywrath is objectively terrible, and yet so much fun. Get aghs and spam your ult. I like to pretend I'm raynor and yell "HYPERION" when ulting.
I've also tried the radiance medusa build someone posted here a while back, that's loads of fun too.
>best but chore
dazzle or CM. Good disable on CM, good save on dazzle. The one is a healthslut, the other a manaslut. Both have clutch teamfight ults. And yet, so boring... Rasta and Lion are much funner supports.
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>>173851634
>worst but fun
invoker
kind of storm, although im a lot better with her now

>best but chore
visage
terrorblade
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This PPD stream is actually pretty good.
I remember when PPD was boring as fuck in his streams but he seems to actually like streaming now.
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>>173852940
he really seems like an autistic guy though
like the kind of guy who would start yelling and getting red-faced mad then brush it off like he was just fucking with you
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how many normal people does dota have in esports?
is there anyone that looks normal, walks normal aside from misery, pajkatt, notail, kuroky and arteezy?
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>>173853445
ppd
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>>173853445
me
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>>173853504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TEyCqBTSBA

>excessive unnecessary shaking
>normal

come on
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>>173853445
>arteezy
>normal
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Why is there no comfy Dota stream with anime/weeb music that's not from a toxic,meme'ing or raging player?
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>his favorite hero STILL doesn't have an aghs upgrade
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>Techies proximine nerf
>everybody saying he's dead again
>play against him today
>it's still fucking cancer
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>>173854493
>anime/weeb
>not toxic faggot
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Anon redpilling about mmr assassins. The weapons of choice for mmr assassins are WW in any lane or jungle LC.

The MMR assassin defense force (MMRADF) don't want you to know this.
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>>173855297
are you gonna stop forcing your shitty meme or do i have to filter you?
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>>173827580
Not really. The decline was pretty obvious because of 7.00 because it gave people reason to quit the game because of so many changes. You can say Valve basically pulled a Dota 3 while only losing only less than 10% of their player base and its not really a bad thing as you will see in coming months when numbers start to stabalize again. Also because of performance problems at the start of 7.00 also made many people quit and since theres a huge overlap of players playing both csgo and dota those people just started playing csgo.
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this is how a dota 2 player looks like
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it's over dotards, just look at the steamcharts
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Is Doom viable yet?
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Please tell me all the people quitting are Americans. That'd be 10/10.
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EVEN HITLER DIDN"T PICK TECHIES
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talents made most of heroes viable but there's something in my tummy that tells me that stats are simple yet elegant therefore the best choice and i want them back
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>>173854603
they want to believe anon. They want him to never be viable.
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tribute
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>>173854603
People are idiots. Retards also thought that the techies rework back in 7.00 would kill the hero except he was absolutely broken as all fuck. The hero needed this nerf.

Any good techies will still find a way to work around the sound detection regardless to fuck people over.
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>>173855380

Bluepilling mmrassassin "bro". Give me a dotabuff of a player sub 6k that has better than 50% winrate over the past few months with Winter "MMR Assassin" Wyvren

Literally reskinned rubick. Do no damage. Soak xp. Be squishy. Get 1 big ult kill the entire game. Be literally incapable of pushing. Set up allies for magic damage combos from enemy team.
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>>173856321
Seems normal to me.
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remember when dota was considered a normie game and normies are dominating the pub scene compared today where we have spergraging losers that you had to babysit mentally so you wont hurt their feelings

i miss you chads, please come back
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>>173858040
oh shit. we really had less ragers back then despite the exaggeration at youtube.

wtf happened?
stakes got higher?
chads grew up?
we got a lot of children and manchildren nowadays?

what happened?
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>>173858040
k-kilo?
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>>173858317
All the decent people quit the game while the tilting bipolar autistic losers can't cut their addiction despite playing tens of thousands of games and investing tens of thousands of hours into it and still being 3k
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Is my Ghostfu viable yet?
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>yfw shrines are just dumber version of flips bottle-crow strat

god damn it icefrog, just rollback the courier cooldown already
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>>173859112
bottle crow is riskless and dumb
but shrines turning around fights are not dumb but annoying as shit
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>>173859112
Icefrog is really dumbing shit down, I don't actually mind though because it's less things to think about while I'm playing

>can see tower range and spawn boxes
>no bottle crowing anymore
>rarely any stacking going on
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Dotards I need to sleep but I'm not sleepy...

What hero should I pick in order to sleep?
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>>173859393
Go AA.
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>>173858036
>being this far under 1mil
>trying this hard to do damage control
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>>173857784
i saw a techies player using 2 mines really close in some spots to force u being damaged if u try to destroy them
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>>173858846
BACK OFF SHES MINE!
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>>173859675
salty sc2g shitter detected
just because your shitty game died doesn't mean ours will
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>>173859902
>having to compare dota with the deadest game in this history of vidya just so dota doesnt appear as dead

that picture was directly from a dota 2 tournament as is this one btw
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where's adelaide?
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>>173858846
her talents are shit

rate my talent
25. +8 Exorcism Spirits | Silence deals 65 damage per second
20. +400 HP | +60 Spell damage
15 +8 stats | 10% Cooldown reduction
10. 35% Exp | +1 Strength Growth
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>>173860230

>level 20 talent IS necro's level 25
>60 spell damage to make DP's GoodPugUlt make Pugna even shittier
>level 10 is FREE Reaver

Perty Gud, I give it Tree Fiddy out of 10
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>>173859352
The thing that really pisses me off about tower range and spawn boxes is that those are "static" ranges (meaning they do not move on the map, they're always the same every game for each tower/camp). In the past, Valve indicated those ranges with subtle visual cues on the map, and that was a really elegant and clever way to do it. Now they don't even bother with that and dump visual clutter on the player because who cares it's not like they have serious competition.

I also don't see it mentioned nearly often enough that stacking and rune spawns occur on alternating minutes. This further dumbed down the game because players don't even have to choose between the two anymore (or be clever and find a way to do both)
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>>173860230
Her talents are okay.

If she gets Spell amp and first item Veil she can fight quite handily without relying on Exorcism. Then the 1.5 second cooldown reduction on Crypt Swarm lets her shit them out.

With Octarine + the cooldown talent ghosts only have a minute of downtime.
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>>173860319
>Now they don't even bother with that and dump visual clutter on the player because who cares it's not like they have serious competition.
Which you only get if you hold alt.

>I also don't see it mentioned nearly often enough that stacking and rune spawns occur on alternating minutes
This was to nerf cleave autism (like Magnus is broken right now even without the old creep spawn times) and make offlane not LITERALLY dark seer, clockwerk, +1 5ever

The thing to complain about is the fucking shrines.
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dota is easier right now and the only way to take advantage of other people is picking fotm heroes.
i wish i can be a dedicated desodusa picker and meme myself at high mmr so you guys will remember and love me for posting here
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>>173860730

Just being a dusa player that doesn't fall for either of the twin traps of manta or linken's would be enough
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>>173860402
It remains visual clutter even if you can toggle it on and off. That's actually another downside of the lazy way out Valve has been taking: a subtle cue would be present at all time while not cluttering up the player's screen.

And yeah shrines are the worst gameplay addition of 7.00 (tied with talents IMO) and the sad part is some of their more severe issues were obvious before 7.00 come out.
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>>173862419
I'd say removing the ability to teleport to shrines would go a long way in making them less fucking awful.
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>>173862695
The way I see it, there are three big problems with shrines: they punish aggression since they create zones in which a single team will get an Alchemist ult's hp regen for a short duration, they make lane pressure far less punishing and they make really hard for a team to lose map control because they're a tp spot. At the same time that's exactly what they bring to the game.

Honestly I don't think they add anything good to the game and I think they should just be removed. I don't necessarily have a problem with new buildings that have special effects, but shrines were fucking stupid from the start.
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>>173858040
>dota was considered a normie game
when the fuck did that happen
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>>173863113
I remember people playing WC3 DotA in my university's computer labs 8-9 years ago, frequently too.
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>create new account to see how dota feels like after 7.00
>Furion is strong af now
>ratting is still amazing
>take all the raxes while everyone is still playing 5v5 hero brawler
My god
I don't know why the 2k shitters are complaining, game is still easy mode if you're the only one with the eye on the prize while everyone's trying to increase KDA
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>>173863427

Meepo farms faster and rats harder than NP
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>>173863495
I'm admittedly a shitter and don't have enough time to play the minimum 50~100 Meepo matches to get at least decent.
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>>173863113
>he doesn't know dota used to be a normie game
what country?
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>lifesteal from 900 gold to 1200

When will this meme end?
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Why do we hate bulldog again?
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i really hate shrines.
you get punished for doing an aggressive play.

now everyone's a pussy, playing low to no risk heroes likes meepo, bs, alche or whatever shit

seriously, let the shitters be shitters
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>>173851634
>support PA

>carry MK
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Only 9 inches?
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>Posters: 75
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>7k avg game
>literally wild west in every lane with a fucking safe lane carry io
>nonstop shittalking and "banter" from minute 0

Its LITERALLY australia in 7k isnt it?
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>>173864357
7K is Good2k,everyone does his cooky wild builds they get after tinkering with the game for 5k hours
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So how exactly does the smurf pool work? I'm being matched with 6k players in one game and then 3k-4k players in another
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Which videogames allow me to settle quarries except dota?
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>>173851634
>worst hero but is fun to play
clockwerk
i am not really terrible with him, but for some reason every time i play him my team go full retard, like jungling timbersaw going for midas first retarded, so my winrate is around 35% after 50 games
>best hero but is a chore
lion
feels like you playing without arms until you get blink, it gets pretty fun after that, but those first fifteen minutes last forever
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>>173864601

Stronghold 1/crusaders has top notch quarry management
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>>173863213
>university's computer labs
>chad
yeah right

>>173863657
your engineering buddies were not chad or normies
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>>173864812
im not the engie guy, im just a shitposter.

on a serious note, its played in every thirdy internet cafe back then i likely see both qt chads and disgusting freaks playing it.

i bet its before ti3 happened
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>>173864879
if we're talking third world I have no idea
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>>173864879
>tfw no stranger will ask you to play lan and have fun with them anymore.
>tfw no more 1v1 river
>tfw no more intentionally dragged games
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>week and half until major
>STILL no info about group stage format and casters invites
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guys... ISIS got LGD...
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>>173864196
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anyone else waiting for IG v LGD?
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>>173866397
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>>173864879
Also it's mostly thirdies responsible for the shittalk
curiously when an autist start yelling in the mic it's never a distinguished british accent or a severe german one, always someone that sounds like a fat 30-something russian/arab who smokes 3 packs a day
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Why is dota 2 dying?

Is it because the low level white trash 1st worlders got tired of it because of how hard the game is?
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>>173866741
Its because of the low IQ white people muricans got tired of how complex the game is and because they got tired of losing mmr for being too fucking dumb and illiterate on the game, so many of them quit.
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>>173866741
seems about right
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>>173866741

here is the reason
-shrines
-bounty runes
-stun duration showing
-tower range and creep camp spawnbox showing
-talents
-no mana cost for blink
-symmetrical map
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>>173866879
you forgot to add courier not dropping items when it dies
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>Spectre has 58.6% winrate
WHAT THE FUCK
WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN
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>>173866879
How is the map symmetrical?
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>>173866879
isn't what you guys always wanted? a balanced map?
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>>173866961

This feels like a very specific kind of autism
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>>173866961
you wanna kill dota 2 quickly? because thats how you kill dota 2 quickly
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>>173866879
>-stun duration showing
>-tower range and creep camp spawnbox showing

This is massive baby duck syndrome
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>another EVANGELION donation

There are other anime holy shit, donate jibun woo
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>>173866741
Why the fuck do people hate racism on other races but think they deserve to be racist on white people?
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>>173867236
your race deserves to be extinct. homie
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>>173867157
hmm...
that's exactly a feature that was in dota in times past...
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>>173867351
oh. maybe removing it was a good reason after all.
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>>173867445

OF COURSE REMOVING PUNISHMENT IS GOOD

GET COURIER KILLED? NO PROBLEM THE ITEMS WON'T BE DROPPED

GET BTFO ON THE LANE? TAKE A SIP OF THE SHRINE

GET BEHIND IN EXP AND GOLD? CLICK ON YELLOW RUNE FOR BOOST!

CAN'T AGGRO THE CREEPS WELL? DON'T WORRY THE SALVE AND CLARITIES WORK AFTER CREEPS HIT YOU
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>>173867536
>GET COURIER KILLED? NO PROBLEM THE ITEMS WON'T BE DROPPED

This is still not like the others. It mattered 1 out of every like 1000 non-trench games while in 999 out of 1000 time it was seen in trench games it was because of griefing
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>>173867536
i was only talking about the courier mate. the other ones are quite unreasonable too.
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>keep memegold
>double the death cost

y/n?
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I wish iceiceice would stream again. It was comfy
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>>173867606
>>173867627

All I am saying is that the overall trend of the game is to dumb down every mechanic
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Which carrys can offlane abaddon beat in lane?
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Reminder if you want to reach a certain MMR, just eat that many calories per day.
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>>173867909
Nice grammar buddy

PA's crit can dispell abbaddon's aphotic shield therefore PA is abaddon's worst nightmare
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>>173867929
no
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>>173867909
Not ursa, let me assure you that.
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>mfw seeing a spec go blademail
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>>173867985
he was talking about heroes that abbadon can counter in lane dumbass
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>>173867909

slark unironically
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>>173867909
Luna
TB
PL
CK
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>>173867909
Any carry that relies of a nuke with a slow for early kills (e.g. PA, Spec)
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>>173867909
>>173867985
>>173868042
kek
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>>173868235
Lifestealer
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>>173868235
QoP
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>>173868463
>safelane QoP
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>>173868573
>anything QoP
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>>173868573

wow, who's the qt mate?
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post your MMR
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>>173868790
Cocona from Flip Flappers! Say something nice to her!
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So how exactly does the smurf pool work? It seems like I'm being matched with 6k players in one game and then 3k-4k players in another
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>>173869060
there is no smurf pool
you get a starting hidden mmr based on the questions when you first launch the game and thne first 10 games calibrate
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>>173868885
4.3k, my peak was 4.6 and I'm hoping to at least climb back to 4.5.
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>>173869225
I think the calibration games goes on for longer than just 10 games. It always goes on
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>>173869325
nah
but if you ranked calibrate different the unranked mmr is adjusted
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>>173868573
Hey youre that anon from some time ago when you asked about crit and wiki stuff
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>>173868573
safelane support qop
skywrath is all damage no disable as well
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>>173869325
I think it was 40 games before you get to play your first 10 ranked matches
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>>173869041
S-She is super cute and very feminine!
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>>173869041
Would shower together in a hot spring

>>173869795
So are you!
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>>173869671
it's ~150, less if you do battle pass cheevos
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>>173868885
4500
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>>173868573
>Flop Flopper fag
lmao 883 sales
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>>173851634
>worst but fun
TA. I'm really good at fat-fingering meld strikes but god damn do I love one-shotting a guy with that shit.
>best but is a chore
Enigma. Especially because they keep changing the jungle every 2 patches so it throws off my groove. Black holing nerds will never not be awesome though.
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>>173868885
4.5k
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I have 40% winrate on my favorite heroes. How do I deal with this?
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I'm so bad at maintaining a lead god damn.

Whenever I get a small snowball going from a few hero kills I just get stuck in the mindset of looking for more picks and lose a lot of semblance of just hitting creeps.
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What's the most /u/ dota hero?
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>>173867830
courier not dropping items isn't "dumbing down"

courier drops items = dota cannot exist as popular game. it's bad, awful design. you don't give people tools to grief others.
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>>173859838
already taken

reminder that dp is NOT sexy but rather SPOOPY
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>>173871093
>AM doesn't check your mana and just immediately mana void you

Nice bracket.
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>>173871267
why would you ever not immediatley mana void the target in this situation

give me a reason
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>>173871093
>several autoattacks canceled
>AM fucking up ET ult by canceling sleep
>AM not ulting right away
next time make webm of making rampage against passive bots
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>killing 6 couriers in 2 games
My god Dota has never been this fun. I don't care about winning in this game anymore, my only goal is to make people miserable. That's how you make Dota fun again.
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>>173871508
>you play perfectly and make all correct decisions in your games

ill remember that ;) ;)
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>>173871493
Ideally he wants to use it to get the kill, especially since she started to sucky sucky and get HP back.

I don't know if it was a level 1 or 2 mana void in the webm, but you could wait a few seconds before voiding to burn some more mana or wait until she used another spell - unless you thought you were gonna get silenced which the AM did not in the clip.

Either way he had ample time to both check her mana and cast mana void so = retard bracket.
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>>173871621
Hes not saying that, hes saying that people that psg is playing with and including psg are retarded fucks who can barely breathe
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>watching TI4 replays
>Synderen speaks with some kind of fake pseudo-British accent

Wtf?
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>>173869325
Your first few, I don't know 3 or 5 determine your base MMR then from then on it's 25 each win or loss. I remember my smurfs in the past would bump me into High or VHS if I played carry and had a really hot start, and others I would play supp and stay in Normal skill.
>>
>got all my reports back until about a month ago
>haven't gotten one since
???
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>>173871649
he should've been silenced

the game ddosed me there i dunno how i only got treant, clearly the radius bugged out
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>>173871780
I totally thought the same thing when I played the TI2-5 vods in the background while I work.
I like his current American-ish accent though. He's a pretty smart person outside of playing the game.
>>
Don't queue Cap's mode solo. If you do you'll get matched up with bad stacks who have no idea how drafting works and play their own game within the 3-4 players. No communication ingame or in the draft so you'll be playing Storm into an AM or something, or you'll be solo supporting while the other 4 play core and wrestle farm from each other.
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>>173871995
The few times I played Cap's mode was awful. Captains who don't understand strengths, weaknesses, or counters at all beyond "pick Axe if they have a lot of melee heroes".
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>>173871995
last time i played captains mode was 6.83

the captain allowed teh enemy team to take axe, storm, troll, and sniper

he then picked redundant/nonsensical shit. i just walked down mid
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>>173860230
>+1 str growth

If she doesn't get that retroactively, that's still +300 HP at level 25. If she does, that's another +180 immediately on top of that. That's extremely good. Also, she just got her str buffed back up to its old status, so she'd have 3.2 str gain per level or something. That's literally Ogre Magi and close to Treant.
I'm guessing +60 spell damage means that Crypt Swarm does that much more, 60% would be silly beyond belief.
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>>173871004
>you don't give people tools to grief others.
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Toss
go away morellodragon
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>>173863972
wtf? dota3 feels more aggressive now to me than dota2
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>>173872183
>>173872119
I've played it around 6 times I think. First four were solid, lots of communication (mic+roles), drafts made sense, etc.
Lately it's just, 2 stacks or randoms who really should be playing AP, ~350gpm over 20 games playing core, nonsense drafts, radio silence while their stack play their own game over teamspeak, etc.

I don't buy into the 7.xx ruined Dota doomsayers but...the quality of games have been absolutely terrible in every gamemode. I really thought I was going to get 4 tryhard, ready to win players in CM. Not the case.
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>>173872234
>That's literally Ogre Magi and close to Treant.

it's a "tank" hero. str was replaced with temporary str from siphon.

dropping dp's str gain to 1.9 was one of the worst and most heavy handed nerfs i have ever seen

>hey, this hero requires euls, so now you also require a bracer or something so your euls is several minutes later for no reason, have fun not being viable anymore
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>>173872119
>"pick Axe if they have a lot of melee heroes"
that's better thinking than some professional teams captains can afford
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>>173870925
TA
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>>173872301
hes just an animetard
game is way more aggressive, who the fuck calls meepo a "low" risk hero
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>>173872310
>I really thought I was going to get 4 tryhard, ready to win players in CM. Not the case.

has nothing to do with 7.0 and everything to do with your own inappropriate expectation

if a group is doing something and you are the lone guy you are going to have a bad time. this is true for everything in life.
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Played Razor for the first time yesterday, why didn't you people tell me I could rip so much ass consistently in matches
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>>173873019
Razor is a hero for openly gay men only.
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Trying to practice playing offlane on my smurf account but there's an enemy support pudge in literally every single game. please kill me
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>>173873019
? hes garbage. hero outright doesnt work anymore and must be reworked

>IF YOU STAY STILL LITERALLY 6 SECONDS I'LL TAKE ALL YOUR DAMAGE :)

the most blindingly obvious thing is that razor should be melee to take advantage of damage block
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>>173873019
he is only good against massive retards so he works fine below 4k
also half of /d2g/ doesn't actually play game and only watch high mmr streamers and pro games so they have no idea about actual game that rest 99% of the dotards play
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>>173870925
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>>173873019
Also existance of lotus orb invalidates razor's only worthwhile ability
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>hit a 5 man axe call for the first time in history
>blademail and shivas are on, i'm doing my part
>our qop is standing _right_there_
>she has veil, scream, and sonic wave off cd
>she walks backwards and starts auto attacking the clump of enemies
>actually lose this teamfight

the game still finds ways to disappoint and upset me more than ever; magical
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>>173872119
Is Axe ever a bad pick?

>3.2 second BKB piercing AOE stun.
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>>173873470
no not really
there is a reason some heroes hang around forever in dota and some are spotty in pro/pub appearances

some heroes are just so much better designed from a general perspective
>axe
>literally fits onto any team
>initiation while doing heavy damage and also potential finishing move that buffs team, wtf op
>clinkz
>can hit you hard, requires him to go into the jungle first and eat a creep first to do this
>wtf
>razor
>can steal all your damage if you stand there, but nothing really preventing you from just outright killing him
>wtf
>batrider
>can reposition enemy players
>wtf op
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>>173873470
>that's literally fucking it
oh and and ult for stealing kills from your mid and carry
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>>173873628
>Razor
>88th Most Played
>44.93% Win Rate
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Do you think animeNEETs consider themselves human beings?
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>>173873654
Not really.

Axe is an excellent lane bully who can also farm incredibly fast and build what his team needs or just go super tanky.

I've found with just the 75 damage talent and a maelstrom he can kill heroes during a solo call who aren't super durable.

But yes stealing kills with Culling Blade is an issue, feels badman to NOT do it though.
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>>173873687
and he used to be a high pro pick, back in the day when i started dota

its hard to imagine now but back even in like 6.73, every auto attack you executed in the first 25 minutes seemed to matter 5x as much as ones now
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>>173873779
>75 damage talent and a maelstrom
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>>173873393
Why do people get Shivas on Axe?

You want people to be hitting you, this reduces their attack speed.

One spin does more damage than the Shivas active.
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>>173874080
You're not relying on spin damage that late into the game. You're better off getting survivability items that also help your team survive better.
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>>173874080
because you don't rely on rng and the point of shivas is to disable enemy blinks while blinking on the enemy team. shivas does damage, slow, disable
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>3 teammates fight over mid
>first pick jungle qop
>thye all tell me to go mid
>refuse
>they get mad
dotards?
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>Miracle losing to some shit pinoy team
What the hells happening
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>>173874349
>Gameshitting
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>>173873983
Mjolnir is legit on him too on that note because of the active for even more AOE damage.
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>>173874428
jungle qop is a pagan build you christfag
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>>173874417
amphetamine tolerance is a bitch, anon
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r8 my le spinning stove man
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>booster asks for last pick
>enemy takes nyx clock storm
>he still takes tinker
what did he mean by this?
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>>173874586
head doesn't match anything else / 10
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>>173872398
>poof blink in, poof blink out
>bajillion slow from passive
>free 4(5) nets

wow so risky.
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>>173875520
its easy to brain freeze if you are not good at micro
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>>173873217
fuck off smurf
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FORCED 50% IS JUST A ME--

LOL it's actually real
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www.strawpoll.me/12737920
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>>173868885
>>173869265
>>173870757
>>173870327
>NEETs still stuck in 4k even after MMR inflation
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Why isn't this game dead yet? I just want to move on.
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>plays Elder Titan
am I supposed to feel bad for you or...?
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>>173876245
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>>173876245
What is this trash bullshit
Oh, its 3.6k
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>>173876625
CTRL + SCROLL WHEEL UP = WIN
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>enemy mid doesn't show, appears to be roaming pudge
>2 minutes in bottom lane comes to push mid
>3 minutes in top lane coming down mid to deathball

is this normal for "hard" bots? I just wanted to play some stupid hero on mid...
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>>173876735
>lol who cares if I could have made the image an appropriate size
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>>173876692
"oh it's 3.6k"
umm excuse me? So, how the fuck do you get out if you have 3 teammates who collectively provide you with 0-27-14. THERE IS NO WAY OUT

Oh wait, let me guess. You're clueless LOL
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>>173876780
Yes.
Once towers start getting pushed bots will deathball the rest of the game.
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>>173876879
>theres no way out
Stop picking shit carries into those heroes
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I want to fuck QoP into a coma.
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>>173873217
>smurfs in game
>instalock techies and ruin the game for everyone

nothin personell... kid...
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i want to shitpost d2g to death
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>>173876780
>phoenix jakiro dk level 1 lane

that's kind of scary actually they can take the tower and you can't even cs

will try and report back
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>>173877340
>Pick Techies to fuck my team
>Win every time
FUCK
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>>173877394
>take mid T1 at minute 3
>turn and gank offlane
>take bottom T1 at minute 5
>control the entire map the rest of the game
What are some solid level 1 tower destroyer lineups? I feel like that's some pubstomp material, especially if you have a roamer who can punish regular laning heroes for being halfway across the map from their nearest tower.
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>>173876887
I see. Well that was boring. 16 minutes and pushing tier 4s while having half their kills. Typical deathball game.
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>>173877884
>that bot lineup

are you ready to get fucked, mang

this is why playing against bots is pointless
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>>173877587
Thought about this a little bit more. I'm thinking a lineup like follows:
Jakiro, Syllabear, Leshrac, KotL of the Light, pugna
thoughts? How can you stop this push level 1? If you go normal lanes and let them take your T1s, will you get enough experience to counter them later in the game?
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>>173874586
>not going being the Dota 2 version of a tripfag
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>>173878304
>immortal
>immortal
>immortal

why even post it bruv honestly
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>>173878450
>>173878304
ouch
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>>173878304
>no shoulder shield immortal
>no cape immortal
>cheap ass axe
poor/10
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Any good streamers live?
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>>173878283
Items:
Bearman buys a blight stone
Jakiro will have the least mana problems, so he buys tp, wards and smoke. Gives tp and wards to druid
Druid teleports mid, he and his bear ward up the enemy jungle before they get there. Everyone else smokes up
With the bear to tank tower shots they gank mid really quickly, securing the kill
Push the wave to tower, take tower.
I'm thinking lesh is a poor choice and you need a carry who will take mid game well. If you go late you lose with this strat regardless. What if you replace leshrac with Nature's Prophet? He's actually good now, and makes for a great midgame carry + overall pusher
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>>173878283
NS can fuck up mid game for that backline, Urza is a lane none of those heroes can touch for 10 min (maybe w/ Pugna), SK+Disruptor for counter initiaction.. I would try to hold the lanes as giving up all your t1s seems a little too much
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>>173878725
>pick shadow shaman
>kill the bear and repeatedly ether shock everyone else
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>>173878526
But he is wearing the cape.

Are you talking about the Vanguard shoulder?
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>>173826709
Try drugs friendo
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>want to play some dota 2
>play 2 games
>both of them had subhuman turkroaches on my team
>eu west
what did valve mean by this?
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is keiv startin soon?
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>>173879413
that you're an eurocock with too much privileges and deserve what you get
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>>173879413
>EU complaining about minorities after they gave up their autonomy to Germany, the Eurofuhrer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxutY7ss1v4
crybab
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>>173873217
>guys I have like 6k mmr and that's why I'm going to jungle alch into a midas
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>106/2
why are so many bots here? this is dead?
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>it's another "my team refuses to pick a carry episode"
How does this happen to me so often.
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>no monkey d. luffy hero
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When is valve going to nerf slark/morph/tinker in overthrow?
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>>173881308
is the new slark scepter as broken as it seems?
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>>173881495
no, just in the FFA and 2v2v2 modes it's super easy to end up with 100 essence shift stacks and become a permanent murder god
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>tfw you finally realize you prefer the concept and playstyle of ASSFAGGOTS more than the hyper-competitive nature
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how do we deal with adderall abuse in pro scene?
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>>173881795
are you suggesting exploiting this addicts? they have a disease! dont abuse them!
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>Solo queue
>Go solo offlane, do well and die only 1 time because Nature's Prophet teleport.
>The 4 stack on my team with a roamer somehow loses mid and safelane, all have 0.5 k/d ratio or worse and die immediately in every fight and don't ward.

How do I "git gud" in this situation. I want to know what armchair T.I players here in /d2g/ would do in this situation.
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does bristle bloodstone sucks or rules?
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>>173882129
It's shit, you only have mana problem early on.
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>>173882161
are you aware of bloodstone, the item? aka broken as fuck mek?
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>>173881795
by adding aderall major
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guys is Rubick a core or a support?
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what about spectre? she has no skills to silence!
right? :/
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>>173882243
Bristleback is usually the last to die in team fights though
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>>173882413
*unsheates silver edge*
psssh.. nothin personnel....piglet
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Fix for Zeus
>Removed Thundergod's Wrath
>Nimbus Replaces Thundergod's Wrath as ultimate
>New Aghanim's Scepter gives Nimbus 500 movement speed and 2 charges

Fix for Prophet
>Talent to give Treants +200 movement speed to replace +4 Treants
>BAT reduced to 1.5

Fix for Bristleback
>Warpath has active component that lets you consume current Warpath stacks to heal 5% of current HP for each stack on a 80 second cooldown, the active can be used even when affected by Break.
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>>173882413
dude, is it only a mana regen item? is it only a 'must suicide or does nothing' item?
>>173882542
*suicides after the fact, you get nothing
?
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>>173882635
Lol at that Bristleback "fix", he's already a raid boss if he has Pipe and a Vanguard.
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>>173882667
bloodstone is just dogshit on bristle, all it does is give him some hp and mana
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>>173854603
>always listen to music while player
>all i hear is nigger rap and never the new sound
Tbh there should be a visual like a blinkimh red light in the fog or somethin
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>>173829394
You're a special kind of retard, aren't you?
>>
That's it. I'm done with this shit game. How can Valve fuck up so much? Today I picked Phoenix, everything was going fine until I decided to go into their jungle to plant a ward. I pass through the trees and bam! ...nothing happens. Nothing! You would expect a giant flaming bird running through trees would set them on fire but no, Valve thinks otherwise. Uninstalled. Fuck this garbage.
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>aghs suppose to uprage ultimate ability
>upgrades a non ultimate ability
This is when the game died, cause fucl consistency and acctually having to think of new ideas
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>>173882935
>>173882928
look at this idiots not playing lich with ags
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Do you guys think that a smaller prize pool for ti7 compared to ti6 will accelerate the incoming death of dota?
After all it's no secret that this game already dying, but I expect that pros will begin to leave dota as soon as they see that it's no longer growing and that will eventually trigger even bigger masses of players than before leave the game too.
I expect dota will have the same relevance in 2-3 as HoN has now.
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>>173883173
You have been posting the same since 2012, I admire you perseverance.
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>>173882928
>pick QoP
>clothes still on after getting hit
honestly I'm just done gg
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>>173882935
the game died when in an effort to stop 5 minute memeball icefraud added le epic rubber band and a bunch of other things to massively inflate gold income
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>>173883173
i'm predicting 21m just to make sure the prizepool is increasing every year
valve is always ahead of thinking when they want your wallet
dota is not gonna die that fast, only way is to beat it with the same genre or concept but valve's F2P design+steam market is too good for new games to compete
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When my teammates pick garbage heroes I start playing really aggressively and making really risky plays because I feel like that's the only way I could win. Does anyone else do this?
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>>173883173
i don't know, valve is really good at being jews and getting you to open your wallet, they'll probably add some super item that you have to spend 10 grand to get
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>gyrocopter +6% spell amp to +20%
fixed to be honest
>>
>gyrocopter 350ms without boots
fixed t bh
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>>173883268
I didnt even knew that dota existed back then...
Anyway if you here are some data:
ti6: 20'770'460
ti5: 18'429'613
ti4: 10'923'977
ti3: 2'874'380
As you can see the growth of the prize pool slowed down almost completelly and with the playersbase leaving the game the prize pool will shrink for the first time.
>>173884062
>>173884191
Milking more money per player won't compensate the loss of players forever. It's only a matter of time until everyone sees that dota is dying and then people will abandon it in a heartbeat.
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>>173884359
>make dagon/eth blade gyro 1 shot anyone
>wow i fixed the hero hire me icefrog you hack
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>gyrocopter sidegunner is an innate ability
>aghs upgrades it to shoot flak

i fixed gyro tbqh
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>>173882735
Not really. For the first 20 minutes Bristle is tanky.
Soon as a Silver Edge rolls out he completely melts. He literally cannot fight without Quill Spray spamming from his passive
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>>173884450
Most of that growth is from then changing how hard they jew'd you with each compendium. Also ti5 had some ridiculously long ass compendium period compared to ti6 (like an extra month or something).
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>gyrocopter sidegunner adds his wife's son in a tiny gyrocopter following him
I fixed gyro tbqh
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>>173884673
They didn't change anything. 25% of the compendium purchases go to the price pool, that has been since ti3.
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>>173884450
There is no chance the growth will be lower then last year, reminder tgat obly 25% of compendium money goes to the prize pool, rest to valve. It would be terrible PR for valve and dota to have a declining prize pool, the game would die in a year because of the implications. Valve will simply take a little of their 75% cut and put it in the prize pool to make the game seem alive.
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>>173884862
Yeah but they changed the model for how they sell shit every year and how fast you could level your compendium. I think they went overboard with the jewing at TI6. It had a really strong start but then fell behind TI5 until Valve released some last minute sale to bump the numbers up again.
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>>173884862
Don't talk about things you don't understand.
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>>173884862
yeah except there are more hats and quest and other side activity with each TI
the biggest innovation in jew magic in last year compendium was battle level bundle, it alone gave like extra five millions or something, i think there will be more than one this year
>>
Singsing is streaming dotards
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>>173884862
>exclusive immortals
>immortal duplicates when you level up
>another exclusives when you reach a certain level
>>
>first skill is ok but requires you to be kissing distance
>second skill is only good for bullying people early, completely useless in fights because it takes 20000 hours to do anything, even meme force staff builds don't help
>third skill requires you to have a lot of damage which he can't get and stacking neutrals has been super gimped
>ultimate deals no damage and a very mild slow followed by a strong slow but they have to stay in the area for 4 fucking seconds
>all of his talents are really mediocre
what a sad, sad hero. I even tried playing him in overmeme and he was bad there. you would fire a rocket at someone and then cast veil on them and by the time the rocket hit the veil had worn off
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>>173880317
>propaganda full of brown people
lmoa
>>
i used to like shrines because i got btfo in mid a lot.
now im a better mid and i have the ability to turn around ganks against them and im starting to btfo someone in mid but the point that he just disgustingly regenerate in shrine is what makes me angry.

i feel like im obliterated and a stupid shit trying to prove something.
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I remember posting in 2013 about how I loved the pre-TI months of the year because every now and then someone appears announcing the imminent death and burial of dota after it fails to surpass the previous prizepool for TI. It's 2017 and nothing has changed.

The best part is when that irremediably happens one year, nobody will give a shit as it's something expected to happen, no game keeps growing forever and dota is already at the point where it remains balanced with some ups and downs depending on the patches and period of the year.

If the dota playerbase ever starts dwindling seriously they will just release dota3 or some shit. Same that will happen eventually with WoW, LoL or CounterStrike. These games will never die, they are too big already and there will always be players coming and going.
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>>173885703
>he is a eurocock
that was brave pham
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>>173886104
If he makes it to the shrine you weren't doing that well anyway
kills should be quick and dirty mid lane
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>>173886161
>dota becomes a yearly franchise like CoD
>>
is there any pros unironically using legacy keks?
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>>173886347
Rtz, miracle i believe, cancel, envy for some heroes i believe as well
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>>173886345
Can't tell if you are retarded or pretending.
>>
how do you build carry void now?
do i need battlefury again?

>squishy
make vanguard
>builds into nothing else late game
>no damage

>no damage
make yasha, mjollnir
>squishy

inb4 vanguard radi void or pseudo antimage void
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>>173886770
>vanguard builds into nothing
>abyssal
It's like you don't want permastun or something
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>>173886946
not sure if bait or the block regen and/or the active justifies not having the passive bash
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Hi, I'm here for the job interview
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wtf ap is like ranked
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>>173887117
>the lab doors open wide
welcome, doctor
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Are Enigma and Magnus viable in the offlane?
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>>173887297
both? thats greed.. yes?
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i'm only good at farm vaccums

am i good that this game?
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>>173876780
Yes. I've also seen hard bots walk down mid and eat tower shots, feeding me first blood. Makes it hard to actually practice a hero because even peruvians aren't that dumb
>>
How do we fix bristleback?
>>
>>173876780
>>173887720
Has anyone tried some of the custom bots on the workshop? Are they any good?
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>>173882935
>aghs suppose to uprage ultimate ability
says whom
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>>173887720
>even peruvians aren't that dumb
You're giving peruvians too much credit.
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>>173887825
put this
>The hide also removes negative status effects if the damage taken crosses a threshold
on his e

now he's top p/b
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>>173888306
>give him another buff hardcountered by silver edge
"no"
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>>173888456
lotus orb exists
>>
>>173888306
that's literally just kraken shell
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>>173888921
goodKrakenshell actually

DR% instead of block
>>
i just won a game vs bots.. i killed them bots like 60 times and just then they started to have 40s+ respawn.
what the fuck?
>>
After watching Mski vs. Fnatic 2, I've come to the conclusion that Febby and QO are just bad players, and MVP winning those 3rd party tourneys as well as placing 4th and 6th at Shanghai and Manila is solely because of Dubu being a good drafter and Forev and MP being extremely flashy and stable players respectively.
There is no reason to cheer for Fnatic right now because they will never qualify for anything, but I'll watch them still until the eventual disband.
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>>173888636
>lotus orb
how does lotus orb counter silver edge you mongrel
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>>173856452
>2.00 BAT making most items useless on him
>worthless UAM instead of useful nuke
>specific talents required to make skills even halfway passable
>jungle creeps nerfed to shit so Devour is useless
>ancient creeps nerfed to shit any you can't even eat them until its too late to matter
>still no armor

Icefrog will never let Doom be good again. At best he'll get one skill buffed until he's memepick for a while and then get meganerfed again, but even while he's memepick he won't actually be good.
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Post yfw you pwn mid
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Is there something to buying more than 1 aquila or am I just surrounded by retards?
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>>173890457
what is this evangelion ripoff?
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>>173890246
I think he's good still, I play him alot, but the BAT nerf was ridiculous. At level 25 with no attack speed items you hit every 1.5 sec.
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>>173890246
>revert bat
>infernal blade deals 50% increased damage on doomed targets
>doom duration reduced by 5 seconds
>doom cooldown to 110/100/90 seconds
>devour manacost reduced to 60/50/40/30
feel free to use these buffs icefrog
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how do you guys deal with post-loss frustration?
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>>173890830
hit my son
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>>173890830
hit my father
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>>173890830
sex with a 3d female
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>>173887720
Who the fuck hides in bot games to practice a hero.

Look at what the spells do in a custom match then play normals dude.
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>>173890560
IG won a lan xD
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are there any other similar games that have had their matchmaking system get more retarded after a period of a few years instead of improving
I just found a 4 stack in SOLO ranked of all <30 hours accounts, 3/4 from mongolia, with 1 person using english on euw
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>>173886770
>1 defensive item linkens/bkb
>mjollnir
>butterfly
>whatever the fuck carry item you want, my suggestion: silver edge, daedalus
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what do you think about Barcelona's trying to get into dota?
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>>173891164
who?
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making an mspaint template for people to use when posting hero concepts
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>2 years ago last time i played regularly
>pick sven
>win
>get a 80% win rate with sven

>now
>pick sven
>lose
>i've lost 5 consecutive matches with sven

explain this dotards
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>>173891751
You just reminded me that I made a hero concept some time ago and forgot about it until now, i really need to update her sketch so it looks less like dogshit

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Seizp7T_--Sk6z7aVtgED_Bn75CqhJxQstiYKtNRWE/edit?usp=sharing

No talents but most of it is done save for the bio and art
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>>173891751
What if my hero concept has five spells and two subspells, plus an aghs upgrade that changes how one of them works?
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>TFW you accidentally unleash your d2g and /vg/ shitposting power level and completely destroy a slow board like /o/
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>>173890560
Aquila is still an amazing early game item on agil heros even without the aura.

60 hp
19 damage
9 attack speed
3 armor
36 mana

All for less than 1k gold. If you can spare the item slot it's godly.
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>>173887825

>quill sprays procced by e now give warpath stacks
>warpath gains an active part with a 125 mana cost and 60 second cooldown that allows the duration of all current stacks to be paused for 20 seconds. it also prevents them from being purged, but breaks warpath for the duration, preventing bristleback from gaining new stacks.

>>173890734

or better yet

>increase armor by 1
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>>173829821
SPIRIT RUN
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is sing dare i say /ourguy/?
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>>173892678
shut up adelaide
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>>173892029

its a work in progress, currently you will have to edit the image to do that, which should be as easy as copy-pasting part of the blank template.
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>wisp is a sphere
>rubick is a cube
>they are not arch-enemies in the dota lore
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is it just me or have 50-60+ minute pro games gotten a fair bit more common lately?
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>>173891029
dude your badass
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what's in the update doturds?
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>>173892803
THAT BABY IS FUCKIN WEIRD LOOKING GET IT OUTTA MY FACE, UGLY ASS BABY
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>>173892835
It's common in 3k/high skill.

People can't fucking wrap it up.

Took 4 tries to get the last lane of rax before troll realized he needed BKB to do it.
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>>173893046
Lich can now deny your team of the wiling to live and its awesome
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DotA 2 is dead in the western non third world country part of the world. This is evidenced by twitch viewer numbers, this thread. We move at roughly 1/18 the speed of the LoL thread, and 1/5 of the WoW thread. However it is extremely popular in Russia, Brazil, Peru and China
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You wanna know why Dota is dying?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/652gq7/can_we_get_more_warnings_like_techies_mines/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=DotA2
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>>173893480
>western non third world country part of the world
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>>173893480
and football clubs are starting to open up to esports.. *wonders
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>>173893739
Techies makes people not want to play the game. It's not that.
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>>173893739
>redditor can't recognize satire on his own website
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>>173893739
>Jaws theme if Slark is nearby, increases intensity as he approaches

kek
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why does this fucking jew zyori have to shit on trump every time he is on stream? Im watching a fucking video game, not msnbc.
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>>173893974
stop watching him then
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>>173893974
>2017
>complains about opinions on inet
you must be a special snowflake
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>>173893772
i want to sex retard pepe
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>* Added setting for muting chat from the enemy team.

fucking finally, i was getting tired of doing it manually every match
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>>173893974

it's either, or a combination of
>hes a salty bitch who voted clinton
>trumps policies on visas might make it hard for players from certain countries to come to ti7
>someones paying him to say the shit

>>173893937

thats honestly the first good suggestion ive heard from reddit
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>>173891751
Can we design a Trump hero guys?
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>>173893739
>all of these
Are people reddit this fucking retarded and casual as fuck? Holy shit, burn the website down please
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Is it still possible to solo Rosh as Veno?
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>>173894541
haha yeah i bet he'll have an ultimate where his hands get really small (even smaller than they already are) and drumpf starts throwing a tantrum and pissing himself making all the enemies stunned cause they're too busy laughing at him
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>>173894541
>heroes with icewalls havent been trumpified
get on it!
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>EU
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>>173894541
Ogre Magi already exists.
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>>173893974
of all the places to preach that kind of stuff, why would you choose dota 2 esports as your platform
i don't get it
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>>173894541

earthshaker is pretty trump-y

he builds walls (and makes enemies pay for them with blood) smashes the competition in stunning fashion with sudden and unsuspected bursts of power, and his ultimate deports all the immigrants to hell
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>>173895118
this
hes also the nuke hero by default
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best climber RIGHT NOW?
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who made this gay as fuck octarine/blademail/midas veno build popular
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>>173894541
>Build a wall - erect a wall, take 5/10/15/20 unreliable gold from nearby enemies for building it, makes an impassable barrier for 10 seconds
>Deal maker - passive gold gain increased by 1/4/8/12% from all sources
>Assault trucks - spawn a stampede of exploding trucks that deal 60/80/100/120 damage to the first unit they hit, lasts 20 seconds, channeled (like march of machines)
>God emperor - removes cc when activated, increases all stats of allies by 15/20/25% for 9 seconds

>25 +240 assault truck damage | +300 gpm
>20 +300 health | +25% mres
>15 deal maker 900 aoe aura, half values for allies | 25% cdr
>10 -3s wall cooldown | + 70 damage
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>>173894605
nope, he is regenerating too fast
eight level 1 wards damage for ~105 damage every 1.5 second, that reduced by 16 armor (by ~50%) and his armor type (by another 50%), that means all your wards deal around 17 damage per second and his level 1 regen is 20 per second
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>2 invited teams to Kiev from America
>6 european players
>2 canadian players
>1 paki player
>1 usa player

is this what they mean by "NAdota LUL"?
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>>173896225
Canada is basically a vassal state owned by the US anyways
they aren't a free country
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>>173896225
>American teams are made up of immigrants
>one owned by a jew and the other a white guy
I see nothing wrong here
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>>173896225
>is this what they mean by "NAdota LUL"?
nah, that's about teams with full american rosters
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I love you guys, I do enjoy casting OW but also still love casting DOTA and am not planning on quitting any time soon, and you can expect to see more of me in the near future!

My fiancee recently moved to the US, so I've been limiting my international travel while she gets adjusted to living here. That generally means casting less DOTA since most casting opportunities that make sense for me are LAN gigs, and most of them require being out of country for 7-14 days at a time.

Yes, it's true, I've been trying my hand at casting Overwatch. DOTA is my first love as a caster, but I also really like Overwatch and have enjoyed the experience of casting another game besides DOTA. It's a nice change of pace and a fresh challenge for me as a commentator, and ultimately I think that's important to avoid burnout. In a lot of ways, casting Overwatch has renewed my appreciation for DOTA and many of the things that make it such a wonderful esport.

As always, when I'm not busy casting, I'm actively involved in running and growing Beyond the Summit. I wear a lot of hats at the company nowadays, and sometimes the responsibilities involved do limit the time I have available to cast.

That said, I will be attending quite a few DOTA events over the coming 2-3 months (most of which will be announced fairly soon) and am excited to get back to casting in the leadup to TI7!
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>mfw hiding copypastas
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>sing won with doom

is the hero good now?
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>>173897534
he's just a good player
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>>173897534
>play six games with good hero
>win three
>play six games with bad hero
>win two
wtf gulagites
are "good heroes" and "bad heroes" are just a memes? it's only one won game difference
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>>173897908
>are "good heroes" and "bad heroes" are just a memes?
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So I've been playing offlane Ursa at 6k mmr and it has been going pretty well. Does anyone have a problem with this? Ursa is the only hero who can force the enemy carry out of lane and go jungle if he needs to
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>tfw just playing every game i have to solo support half assed and people despair at the throws
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>>173897534
The new jungle spawn times and the introduction of spells for every single jungle creep nerfed Doom to the ground. If you find a wolf you won't be able to devour anymore jungle creeps or else you'll lose that sweet crit and aura.
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>>173898521
You don't even want the Wolf passives, anyway. The new ancient furry's active spell is broken.
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>>173898624
Because a spell that you can only get at lvl 25 is relevant to what I'm talking about
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>>173898758
You can get it at level 20. If you are decent enough and know how to play the game now you will get it after 22 minutes of the game.
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>>173898624
>furry active
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>>173899143
The new ancient shaman or whatever it is called.
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>>173899263
if i ever went the ancients talent id go for the thunderhide
>damage increase aura(half of alpha wolf)
>free mom that doesnt silence you or the person you cast it on
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What's this champ supposed to do again?
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>>173899409
A 2 second root that goes through anything and cannot be cleansed isn't a good nough spell for you ?
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>>173899757
too unreliable for my tastes
and you can manta/euls out of it i think
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>>173871780
>>173871885
Danish person here. We're taught British English in school, we use the British spellings like "honour" and so on, we use British text books and read British texts. Some people kind of pick up on the accent.
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Nature's Prophet is over powered
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>>173900406
britbong accent is absolutely disgusting
stop speaking with a britbong accent
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>>173899680
le olde splite pushe
only historians care about that dead tactic though
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>>173900447
feels good
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>>173900531
I know i fucking love it
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>>173900495
It's a minority that picks up any kind of accent. Most Danish people have a very clear "Danish" accent when they speak English and are usually quite easy to pick out when they speak it.
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Carry mid venge

Starting items:
wraith band + faerie fire + 2 tangos from suppot
or
wrath band + healing salve + 2 tangos if agains heroes like zeus or tinkerer that can harras you without a way to trade hits for you
Early game:
boots; ring of aquila; ring of regen; power treads; medalion of courage
ring of aquila and ring of regen provide solid amount of regeneration
ring of regen builds into force later
medalion of courage active allows you to melt enemies with crazy -13 armor reduction (stacks with with wave of terror), it also makes you harder to gank and increases jungling speed.
Core items:
solar crest; hurricane pike
Solar crest gives + 5 armor reduction compared to medalion of courage,
hurricane pike doesn't need explanation
Situational items;
Satanic; mask of madness; butterfly; diffussal blade; bkb
Satanic: great when they lack disables, great with bkb
Mask of madness: if you use ult for initiation, stun and wave, you can activate mom without worrying about silence (because your cooldowns are longer than 8 seconds mom active). Armor reduction doesn't concern us because of medalion of courage. Provides huge increase in dps and chasing potential
Butterfly: nice stats vs physical carries
Diffussal: okay versus medusa and wk.
BKB: no need for explaining

What do you think?
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>>173900447
explain yourself
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>>173900756
71 damage with a null talisman

play him offlane, use treants to keep the support off of you, if they trilane, just move to jungle.

Stop the ebin push meme, he hits like a fucking truck
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>>173900406
former vassal of denmark here
we get taught british english in school but for some reason people always end up using american english
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what does d2g drive

t. man who has to buy a car
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>>173900852
with monkey roamer nerfed i think that his time under the sun went unnoticed
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>>173902207
He actually does well against monkey, treant spawn, and sprout shows him on trees
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>>173902438
maybe if monkey is finally balanced into the safelane.. Bane and Rhasta come to mind as heroes with nice stats that arent meta
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>>173823983
Okay losers you like to knock jungle LC, I'm going to show you why it's probably one of the most solid picks:

Jungle LC:
+Farms fast
+Frees up another lane to allow for a greedier draft
+Uncontested freefarm
+Even if they TRY to contest Jungle LCs freefarm, that's a support hero that isn't contesting another lane, allowing my team to farm and push easier
+Once you get treads blink you can set up kills ANYWHERE on ANY HERO as long as you have 1 teammate there with you
+Can pop out of jungle, pop a heal on your safelane carry to help him stay in lane
+Strong anti-carry
+One of the longest disables in the game
+Every 5v5 turns into a 4v5 after you take out their enemy carry with an easy blink BKB duel
+Literally a better version of batrider other than the fact that her only TP cancel is her ult
-Low mana pool

Yes, that's right, jungle LC's ONLY weakness is her low mana pool, and I suppose the fact that duel has a cooldown...

Reminder:
*PPD -STOMPED- with jungle LC.
*Only shitters complain about losing their lanes, and often look to blame the jungler when they do since it's slightly easier to jungle than farm a lane
*LANM played support jungle LC in a professional game and they stomped

You can't refute any of this. Jungle LC is sleeper OP top tier pick/ban material.
i just found this in a notepad document on my desktop, wrote it like 1-2 years ago and only posted it once
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>tfw you pull off a perfect 9s chainstun on multiple heroes as visage
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>>173905441
as relevant as the day it was wrote
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>omni has the highest winrate
What's his secret, d2g?
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>>173906220
FREE bkb?
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>>173894541
>NEW INVOKER ARCANA: THE PRESIDENT MAGUS
>Ice wall graphic reworked to be a brick wall that plays mariachi music when you walk over it
>face permanently frozen in a pout
Voice lines:
>"I've got so many spells, I've got the best spells, so many spells it's not even funny."
>"When they send their creeps they aren't sending their best"
>(On distant sunstrike cast) "We're gonna nuke the shit outta them"
>(getting last hit) "I'm a fantastic businessman"
>"kaching"
>"I have so much money"
>(On deny) "Wrong"
>(Killing brewmaster/monkey/any of the spirits) "I hate China, I really do."
>(Killing storm spirit) "DEPORTED"
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Guys I've literally been so fucking depressed because I haven't spoken to my best friend in a year and bored with my city

My question is how do i get good with spectre in ranked mode early game
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>>173906382
I would start playing Invoker for that Sunstrike line.
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Based LD has already moved on to casting a superior game. How long until you hang your gloves up, dotard?
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>>173907116
>overwatch
>any game that blizzard is in charge of balancing is """""""""superior"""""""""""
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>>173907116
Overwatch is infinitely closer to TF2 than dota, and for all I care Blizzard can have that victory because Crit-a-Cola has been busted for years (and still is) in TF2.
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>play dota
>win 4 games in a row
>decide to call it a day
>switch to bayonetta
>get "stone" for every level
is that infamous forced 50% you guys talking about?
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>>173907204
> a game being worked on with love, getting decent updates every now and then

vs.

>a game which is no longer getting any love as the developers are interested in a VR set + 3 new games, getting decent updates 1 year

I wonder.
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>>173907680
I lost all interest in TF2 when I reinstalled it and found out that Loch/Targe and melee Demo were nerfed hard. The game balance in general feels very stale, nothing is specialized anymore.
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>>173907792
Yes. In fact, back in 2009 I lost 124 games of counterstrike in a row. I didn't realize why until recently when I gained 2.5k mmr just before quitting the game, and now I know the matchmaking system reached back in time to retroactively apply the forced 50.
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>Dota 2 is free to play
>12.5 million players

>CS:GO costs money
>11.1 million players

uhhh....Dotards?
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>>173908589
>cowadoody genre is more popular

:thinking:
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>>173906382

my sides are in orbit
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>>173908589
>shooter vs game with one of the steepest learning curves
hmmmm
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>>173908136
It was nerfed because Valve added ranked and people finally discovered it was good despite Loch being banned in competitive since it released. Shields kept getting nerfed because it demolished shitters that make up 90% of the playerbase. That's why I'm glad Blizzard at least gives some attention to Overwatch, or else Torbjorn would be getting nerfs right now despite already being the worst class outside of Bronze.
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>>173908851
League of Legends has 100 million players and is growing every day.
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>>173909252
According to 100% accurate Chinese statistics despite the game suffering an enormous hemorrhage in Korea (i.e. their strongest and most dedicated playerbase) after Overwatch's release?
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>>173909252
Total accounts created != Active players
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>>173825576
welcome to VG where the majority are footfags and or virgin losers that fap to their dota hero
>>
Can we get more warnings like Techies' mines?

Like Invoker Sunstrike, a sound play to everyone in the area he targeted

Pudge's hook, a sound play to everyone in the hook's path

Kunkka's torrent, if you're under the aoe, a plays a warning sound

Cow's charge, plays a beep that increases in frequency based on his distance to you.

Jaws theme if Slark is nearby, increases intensity as he approaches

Clinks: Skeleton theme plays if he stealths while near you

Mirana: Beeping if you're in the arrow's path

AA: If you're inside the area of his ult blast, plays a warning sound until you leave

etc

this will certainly make the game much more enjoyable when playing against those heroes
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>>173909058
Ranked was a fucking mistake, does anyone even play it? It was a bigger disaster than when Overwatch first got it, and I'm still a little triggered by ebin coin flips.
>>173909252
Normies like P2W, and the majority of those players are just accounts made.
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>>173909873
I agree. Especially the invisibility stuff is super toxic and unfun for the other players. It should have been removed years ago.
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>tries to practice memepo in my freshly created meme-smurf account
>gets in banned in unranked ap
>gets BANNED in UNRANKED AP
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>>173886161
>2017 and nothing has changed
>dota and WoW will never die
>they both literally have a fraction of their former playerbase compared to when the games peaked

yeah ur the one pretending heres you (YOU)
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>>173910648
meepo is never not cancer, what did you expect? I ban him in unranked. Or naga, if someone is looking like they'll pick it. Or ursa. There are some heroes that are just boring.
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>>173909873
You realize it's a joke, right?
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>>173910648
i ban him every time since i random first in every game and i know or at least have some idea of how to play every hero except for him
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>>173910759
>>173910893
you don't even lose anything if you lose an unranked game aside from yourself if you're autistic enough.

Who thought its a GOOD IDEA?

now im forced to brutally rape bots every single day and pretend that i can finally play meepo.
unless this next match got meepo pickable.
>>
https://twitter.com/MoonMeanderated/status/852590204376449024
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>>173910042
Because the comp community begged for it, and Valve didn't understand why there were so many rules in competitive (like 80% of weapons being banned and strict class limits) so the end result was a mess nobody wanted to play because it devolved into "Which team has Shortstop/Crit-a-Cola Scouts and Quick-Fix Medics?"
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>>173911209
Ranked picked mode in unranked is a godsend because the game simply isn't fun if LITERALLY EVERY FUCKING GAME has le ebin obese forced displacement man or green RNG woman. At least Meepo can be easily countered, or simply ignored if you felt like playing a hero that he is weak against anyway.
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>>173911378
can moon just fucking kill himself already?
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>>173911209
it's not like he nominated for ban in every game anyway
pick visage or arc warden mid when meepo gets banned, those micro skills won't be wasted
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>>173911451
>green RNG woman
who?
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>>173912207
PA I guess.
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>>173912480
but she is dark blue?
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>kill enemy offlaner twice
>he comes back but stays at the tower
>go full davai
>dive the enemy offlaner at lvl3
>he rageforlatts
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>>173912582
Yeah, I think you're right.
Wasn't she green in some version?
I'm drunk so my memory should be questioned.
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>>173912582
>>173912760
I'm color blind
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>>173913338
It's okay, I kind of remember her as green too. Don't feel bad about it, I'm pretty sure there are some skins that make her look green.
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>>173912760
found her model with old textures, her color scheme looks similar to oracle's
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this thread is still up?

ded gaem
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>forev stream
>barely 200spectators

I get that dotards prefer to play the actual game instead of watching twitch streams(unless it's a tournament). But this makes me kinda sad
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>>173914517
shut up fag

when will i be able to buy compendium
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>>173909873
what if they added sound notification for then /d2g/ becomes alive
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>>173913443
daily reminder that arcana's are THE canon form of the hero.
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>have to poop in the middle of a game
what's the solution boys
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>>173914858
I cut the top of my pee bottle, so in case of big emergency I can use it to poop
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>>173914858
i have a wild urge to shit every time i start dota so that's not a problem for me
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>>173915440
You don't play dota. You shitpost on 4chan complaining about anything because that's all left in your life.
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tfw (that feel when) comfy forev stream with mediocre powermetal music
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>>173915729
what's some good power metal? I used to listen to edguy, helloween, avantasia and some blind guardian
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>>173916069
its all mediocre
I mean it can still be enjoyable, but no one in their right minds would ever call power metal anything but mediocre
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>>173914858
ask for pause
open console
disconnect
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>>173916069
>>173916272
god tier power metal coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5nyWL7zs4o
post mmr grindin' tunes
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>>173890664
Valve needs to stop slapping BAT changes on shit and calling it a real fix to a problem. It's already bad enough that there were like 10 heroes back in closed beta who had that, it's the laziest shit you can do and is on par with LoL's iron fist-controlled meta shit.
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>>173900498
Threadly reminder that split pushing is way more viable in HotS, a traditionally more deathmatchy game than Dota, because you don't automatically lose games for getting caught out once and feeding 5 team levels.
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>>173917384
is that harry potter, the musical?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOxnoMPntt8
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>>173917573
Kel'Snippity comfirmed?
why does he have so many legs tho
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>>173918191
race mixing with spiders
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Icefraud you piece of shit just make gems of true sight be disabled on illusions already
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>women in esports

Mistakes were made
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>>173919587

But EG dota has been around forever now
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why is waga such a huge beta pussy? is it a swede thing?

its like the guy is terrified of ever having a strong opinion even about trivial things
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>>173919587
did something happen? you guys could explain instead of assuming everyone goes to reddit
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ded gaem
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>>173919695
it makes him humble, asshole.
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These are the non-reddit heroes.

Say something nice about them d2g!
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>>173919793
is the joke that you didn't post anything
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>400 gpm carry gets harassed in "safelane"
>WAHHHHHH MY SUPPORT WAHH WAHHH WAHHHH GG I FEED

everytime
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>>173919959
>>173919793
fail. go ahead and delete, its screen shotted. Faggot.
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>>173919695
I think it's just a Swedish dotafag thing. It makes sense, all us Nordic syrup-chugging motherfuckers are passive-aggressive assholes when we get mad.

See also: Canada, Wisconsin, JimBen, AdmiralBulldog, Purge.
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>>173919947
oh ok, so it is a swede thing
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>>173920118
oh ok but they still are the canonically d2g heroes
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>same 6 people in 3 consecutive ranked games
dota is dead lads
what did we do wrong?
where did it go so wrong?
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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MISTER LIZARD REMOVE THE FUCKING SHRINES FROM THIS GAME, THEIR KILLING THIS SHIT REAL TALK MAN I'LL SUCK YOUR FUCKING DICK PLEASE CHILLTOAD.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH ISSUES WITH TALENTS, YOU CAN ALWAYS BALANCE THEM GIVEN ENOUGH TIME.

I COULD GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE GORILLION SKEKELS LAYING ON THE GROUND FOR HEROES TO PICK UP AND SPAM THEIR SHITTY BOUNTY RUNE PICK-UP LINE.

I DON'T EVEN CARE TOO MUCH ABOUT THE BAJILLIION PARTICLE EFFECTS THAT YOU GIVE TO EVERY NEW SLIGHTLY RARE SET THAT RUINS THE COLOR THEME OF THE HERO AND MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE PANAUT

BUT FOR FUCK'S SAKE I CANNOT UNIRONICALLY RAP MY HEAD AROUND WHY SHRINES EXIST IN THIS FUCKING GAME THEY ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED AND RUIN A WHOLE PLETHORA OF FUCKING STRATEGIES THAT SHOULD'VE STAYED IN THIS GAME, EVEN THE ONE STRATEGY THAT GAVE US THE GREATEST GRAND FINALS IN DOTA'S HISTORY. THEY HEAL FOR A BILLION HEALTH PER SECOND AND DON'T EVEN GET REMOVED BY DAMAGE, IF YOU WANTED THE HEROES TO BE IN FOUNTAIN LESS OFTEN JUST INCREASE FOUNTAIN REGEN HEALTH, HELL, JUST MAKE IT SO THAT FOUNTAIN REGEN AND SHRINES HEAL AT THE EXACT SAME RATE OR SOMETHING BUT JUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM DON'T GIVE ME THAT "Shrines base health regen reduced from 100 to 90" BULLSHIT NERF IT TO THE FUCKING GROUND REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

RAT? DAED
4 PROTECT 1? DAED
FULL-TIME JUNGLING? DEAD (THOUGH THAT'S ALSO DUE TO THE SHITTY JUNGLE CHANGES)

NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT EVERY HERO IN DOTA NOW HAS DRAGONBALL-Z-ESQUE POWER-UPS THAT MAKE THEM GO KAIOKEN AT LEVEL 25. NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT HEROBRAWLER META HAS BEEN THE ONLY DOMINANT META SINCE 2015. NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT THE GAME IS POORLY OPTIMIZED AND THE NEWEST HERO STILL SHITS ON YOUR FPS EVERYTIME HE BRINGS OUT THE GOONS.

JUST REMOVE THE FUCKING SHRINES, THERES NO REASON WHY THEY FUCKING EXIST MR ABDUL I KNOW YOU CAN HEAR ME, DELET THAT SHIT OR I'M RUNNING INTO THAT PLAYBOY MANSION THAT YOU SHARE WITH GABE GUNS BLAZING
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>>173920201
Is "self" how you say (You) in Dotaland?
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>>173920246
>has voice for heroes set to on


dropped.
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>>173920267
for you
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are the chads still going to play our game? or are we really destined to have LoL-tier playerbase dominating in the end?
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world champion = EG
old man = sunsfan
old man's daughter = DC
guy lurking in the dark corner unseen = wings
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>>173920410
come on!

just play and enjoy that damn game!
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>>173920582
>old man=sunsfan

still a manchild. He was streaming breath of the wild from his switch on moon duck studios during DAC.

fucking gross.
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>>173920246
The best part is, if Dota's shrines worked like HotS's they wouldn't even be that busted. Dota's shrines would be broken as shit in HotS.

>you can't teleport to shrines in HotS, or anywhere really, that's why you have mounts
>they heal you way fucking slower in HotS, it's over 20 seconds or some shit, and also heal you for about 50% each in HP and mana, not a flat value
>you can't use them in a fucking teamfight because of how slow they regen you, you'll get raped before you have a chance to fight back if you just started regenning when it breaks out
>you have to actually touch it, not be in the area when an ally does
>each player gets them only once every ~90 seconds, so you can't double tap in the base
>they're RIGHT next to the tier 2 tower equivalents, instead of in the middle of the jungle by the map objectives, and are the first thing to go after the cannon fodder tier 1 towers, and have maybe 5% of the tankiness that Dota 2 shrines do
>HotS doesn't have regen consumables. The only global mechanic other than shrines and fountain is the regen globes that the wizard creeps drop, and that shit heals maybe 10% of your health per wave. It's like a tango but weaker.

I'm convinced that Valve literally has 13-year-olds balancing the game.
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how do i get wood?
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>>173921310
To be fair though, Most of alot of shit in dota would be broken in HotS due to the virtue of HotS being a way slower paced game. I heard somewhere that their version of "black hole" is like the size of slardar's stun and doesn't even last longer than 2 seconds (I don't remember the exact quote but something of that sort).

Ofcourse, given that's the case Icefrog thought it would be smart to make them stronger cuz "DAE IF EVERYTHING IS BROKEN, THEY ALL BALANCED!1!!" meme but I'm serious when I say I can't rap my head around WHY they exist

They feel like change for the sake of change, and given all the map changes, timing changes, addition of scan and talents. You'd assume dota's changed enough, but nope, gotta add those 10 little cherries on top (5 shrines on each side).

I swear everytime I think about it, the question goes back to "what is the strategic benefit of these things?" and valvecucks will always just brush it off and expect it to be the next great thing once it "LE SETTLES DOWN" or resort to "DAE YOU NOT THE FROG" memes it's stupid honestly.
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>>173921859
icefraud is on the wrong side of history take the dracol1ch pill
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Give me your best /d2g/ steam profile pics
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>>173921310
>>173921859
talents are nice but i do really hate those shrines.
is bottle crow meta removed just for this "bottle-less bottle crow" we call shrine?

come on, frog.

forced regeneration at fountain is a punishment for being bad, why is he spoonfeeding the shitters?
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>>173922248
game is casualized to shit.

trying to bring back the chads
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>ppd suddenly becomes cool guy on stream after he was bullied by >>173853627

we did it d2g!
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>>173921859
ETC's Mosh Pit actually lasts 4 seconds, believe it or not. 120-second cooldown too. Outside of the radius, it's better than Enigma's even ignoring the game difference, especially since it's on an inherently tanky hero with a built-in initiation mobility tool.
HotS' CC durations are actually more on par with Dota's than most mobas outside of slows, silences, and the outlier disables like Doom or Poison Nova.
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>>173922991
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>>173922991
>pugna_before_the_incident.gif
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>>173923108
well damn I learned something new.

Sorry, didn't mean to spread false information. *cough*alternativefacts*cough*
though to be fair that was just something I've heard a bit ago so I couldn't remember what exactly was said but it was in a similar conversation comparing HotS designs to Dota's.
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>>173923432

That's alright, it happens a lot. Also forgot to add, ETC has a talent that lets him use his mobility skill during Mosh Pit, moving it (it's centered on him) and extending it for 2 seconds. His other level 20 talent makes him come back as a ghost and use it on the spot without blowing the cooldown when he dies.

http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/E.T.C.

The fact that HotS' talents (and also Awesomenauts' items) are so much more interesting and move-specific compared to Dota's is a big reason why I dislike Dota's talents. A lot of concepts in them could be awkward in Dota, like quests, but that's not to say that they couldn't do something actually cool instead of +5 armor or +100 damage or something.
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>>173917573
:DDD
dogargs?
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>>173923630
>+5 armor or +100 damage

DARK SEER DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>173922636
he doesn't even have to drastically change the game.
talents are ok though.

but, if he really wants to bait the moneybags, here are some things that can work without ruining the game.

1. loli pugna
2. some event (weekly battle cup, dark moon)
3. daily bonus roulette, along with gold system.
you can buy item piece via gold you grinded ingame although gold is untradable.
4.Gift for being good!
You get something special after reaching 3000,4000,5000,6000,7000,8000,9000,10000MMR for the first time!
5. Along with gold system, gold obtained in X time is increased every day!

hire me valve
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>>173923896
Wisp immortal for reaching 6.5k
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>>173923896
>you gain +5 free MMR every day you play a ranked game
>if you don't miss a single day, the next week upgrades to +6/day and so on

I can smell the tears
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>>173923752
>tfw when you're subtly mocking Dota's talents and you actually guess a fucking hero's talent row
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>>173923896
but then, no one would buy the sets and everyone will just grind gold to get their desired set pieces while making the game ali-

oh
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>>173924321
I'm gonna take a contrarian stance and say that sometimes the raw numbers actually make for interesting talent choices. DS +armor makes for a wicked tank, or you can try to go for a right clicker build. Talents like +10 str | +16 agi give you freedom to mess around with item builds without being punished for not choosing items that synergize with your heroes natural growth. They're not as flashy as splitshot mirana arrow, but they can actually make the game more fun.
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>>173921859
>I swear everytime I think about it, the question goes back to "what is the strategic benefit of these things?"

what was the strategic benefit for allowing suicide to neutrals?

the meta demanded a better mechanic for regen than fountain and icefrog has provided that
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>>173925027
Speaking of splitshot mirana arrow, can you get triple damage with it if you're right next to a guy and hit him with all three?
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>>173925357
No, undortunately you can't shotgun blast a fucker with it
In a perfect world, maybe
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>>173925357
Nah, you can only hit somebody once with an arrow. The other 2 will pass them. It is a dumb, meme-y talent.
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>>173925027
that's actually

14 HP regen | +120 damage

t. ds memer
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why is techies allowed
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>>173925972
techies is the official d2g hero
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>>173925972
Is there anything more humiliating than dying to his new proximity mines?
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Let's figure out the chosen weapons of MMR assassins:

Jungle LC
Winter Wyvren

Reminder that MMR assassin defense force (MMRADF) will try to bluepill you about this. But they literally cannot ever find a dotabuff profile of a player sub-6k that has played a lot of WW with more than 45% winrate. Because they are ALL mmr assassins
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>>173927038
>assassin of the mmr variety

based.
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>>173927038
>jungle LC
>bad

redddddddddddddddd
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>>173927038

Rubick has been an MMR assassin for years
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>>173925972
He isn't anymore
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I finally tried this fucking game and why do people say it takes more skill than LoL when every hero has a passive or two for skills and everything else is point and click bullshit? No real skills involved there. This is a fucking joke. do you all really like it or is it just for nostalgia? I can really see now why LoL leaves it in the dust. It seems better than HotS but not by much.
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>>173927407
It's basically a board game, but the devs went full retard and balanced it like an action game instead.
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>>173927407

Force staff, Blademail, and Lotus Orb generally require more thought to use than any LoL champion and those are just items.
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>>173927407
yeah those Hasbro™ plastic skillshots with giant hitboxes for your child's easy landing sure make League for pros
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>>173927407
Fed first blood and got yelled at by your team, huh?
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>>173927726
i mean yeah, more than simple point and clicks. don't get triggered old man
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>>173927904
feeding fb is a legit memeback strat
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>>173927980
want to post your dotabuff and show me how good you are at this very easy game?
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>>173927994
Only in normal skill pubs. Real players won't lose an early game advantage like that
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>>173928035
Post my stats for a game I just started playing and don't even like. What does that prove? haha. Nice ad hominem and deflection from this bad game design though.
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>>173928442
keep going so i can make a new thread and popularize my meme
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>>173928442
teartear, little kid. so you haven't played this game beyond normal skill pubs and you're talkin about how hard it is? gimme a break kiddo
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>>173928442
Don't listen to the other fags, it's typical addict /r/dota2 shit. They were completely different games, even when Dota was still good. Dota's combat doesn't take a lot of skill, but once upon a time the game as a whole had strategic depth to it.

Nowadays it doesn't even have that, it's on par with early 2000's Flash games.
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>>173928737
>>173928862

nah thanks, i'm off to play a real game. I see there is no redeeming value here. game is flawed and boring and some people like that after all these years for some reason. you can't even say why it's good besides stating that it just is. lol have fun pointing and clicking and showing off your hats. nothing more to see with Dota
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>>173929040

>the angry juiceshit
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>>173929096
running away with your tail between your legs. how pathetic! guess i'll be sipping babybitch tears tonight, my friend. keep on crying and maybe i'll have enough for tomorrow as well
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>>173928192
t. guy who doesn't look at gold graphs ever

>>173929275
Not him obviously but people like you are why people hate us dotafags. Not everybody has to like the fucking game or get good at it you neet.
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>>173929096
Thats some dunning kruger shit
You know as well as I do that dota requires hundreds of hours of investment to even learn the intricacies of games on a basic level
>announcing your leave to save face because you played one game and fed and are to embarrassed to post it
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>>173929382
haha, why don't you go play some smite with your boyfriend, little fagboy?
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>>173929040

Everytime I see posts like this its always HoNtrash that want a return to the "IPickQoP" metas
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I miss orbs
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>>173927038

Jungle veno, Mid Nyx, Broodmother in general
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What the fuck Dotards?

Is this true?
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>>173823983
wow thanks
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>>173930653
DELETE THIS
DON'T LET THE 2K SHITTERS KNOW
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>>173930653

Is this a member of ISIS on steam?
>>
doing my part to kill this thread
no one make a new one
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>TFW no moon princess to snuggle with at night
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dead game
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dead general
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>>173932412
>>173932607
delete both of these posts!
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game's alive, it's /d2g/ that's dead
dotards are a dying breed
you go to r/dota2 and it's lively as fuck

i wonder why that is...
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>>173932779
r/dota2 traffic has also decreased

https://www.reddit.com/r/dota2/about/traffic/
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>>173932907

reddit got killed by the election in general because political shit got unbearable and the admins completely revamped the site to try and hide one pro-trump sub that triggered them
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>>173932746
woah mate who's the qt aylamo?
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>>173932779
The game actually is dying
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>>173933012
>reddit got killed by the election
so just like 4chan? We are truly one and the same
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>>173933065
Are esports in general just dying?
Has the bubble finally popped?
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>>173933187
LoL and CSGO are doing fine
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>>173933039
my wife Mirana!
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>>173933327
If CSGO is doing just fine then Dota isn't dying.
Even now Dota's playerbase shoots CSGO's out of the water.
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>>173933492
this mirana is not pretty like the other mirana
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>>173933187

most likely. the whole thing ran on synthetic hype, had to die sometime. surprised it lasted nearly a decade.
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>>173933524
If CSGO were f2p it'd be much more popular
There's a reason why the majority of the Dota 2 playerbase comes from third world countries
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>>173933627
every Mirana is pretty! just some more than others...
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what the hell why is my twitch back to the old UI
i was actually liking the new material design
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>>173933757
your wife is showing a lot of skin there pal
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>>173933524
but Dota doesn't get anywhere near the amount of viewers for esports as CSGO does

most of Dota viewership comes from Russian (which have very little value to advertisers) and China (known to fake viewer numbers so who the fuck knows how many are watching)
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>>173933926
The thing is nothing gets close to cs numbers anymore, lol is dead, dota is dead, literally everythign is fucking dead except for cs.
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>>173934082
this
even EG is trying to play CSGO on the side now so they'll be ready to jump off the ship once dota sinks

CSGO and Overwatch are the future of esports
MOBAs are a dying breed. they're way too complex for the common man
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>>173934217
>Overwatch
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>>173934217
>csgo and overwatch
you forgot something
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>>173934217
>MOBAs way too complex for the common man
ghostcrawler would like a word with you
>>
ok
>>
>CSGO is alive according to /d2g/
>Yet /csgog/ is probably one of the most dead generals on this board, 100x more dead than /d2g/
>on the same level as /sc2/ almost
really fires up these neurotransmitters
>>
>>173937018
>the only factor determining if a game is alive or not is if some loser NEETs are shitposting about it on one of the worst boards on 4chan
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>>173937103
Yes, that is the mindset the post you replied to was mocking
what is your point
>>
>>173937018
i thought the reason why /csgog/ is dead is because it was ruined by discord faggotry
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>>173937268
>only pretending to be retarded
>>
whats a good game to move to now that dota is officially dead
>>
>>173937315
nah animefags killed /csgog/
if you think the shit we deal with is bad, you have no idea how bad things were in /csgog/ a while ago
adelaides to the extreme
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>>173937405
sc2
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>>173937604
this, i can feel the comeback
>>
new thread
>>173937672
>>173937672
>>173937672
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>>173937427
avatarfagging is often an offshoot of discord faggotry
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>>173937629
bwhd. we're gonna make it friend
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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