/fhg/ - For Honor General

>old thread: boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/173704269
Jesus Christ.
>>173704269

just end the general

>>173819963
Also
>>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK (embed)
Please newfriends, don't make a new general if you don't know how.

>>173820090
it wasn't in the old thread OP, what do you want from me

>>173819781
>missed out the console communities
>fucked up the previous thread link

Reminder that the Lawbringer Buff is broken

"Impaling Riposte is guaranteed on parry"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuyF8ZIUHTg&ab_channel=Enservo

>>173819781
20k steel gone because of looking for a tringad guard.
When will they let us use aesthetics just for their own purpose?

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fresh meat

why is pk even allowed at this point

the chances of you winning vs one who can feint and parry is practically 0

So what we might be getting


Highlander with claymore

Centurion with cestus and gladius

Ninja with kamas

Gladiator with trident and shield

Huntress with sword and axe

Ronin with 2 swords

1st 3 seem to be almost confirmed so there is that

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>>173821238
I would rather face a pk then a vortex spamming warden

>>173820958
u..uncensored?

>>173821851
look at top right corner

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>>173819781
>this OP

Christ. Fine, I'll do it myself next time.

Guardbreaking is a broken mechanic that robs the game of its soul at anything past low-tier play.

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8 chooses my next main out of Shugo, Zerk, Nobushi and Valk

>>173821997
Guardbreaks are useless at any level of play past beginner, and are really only useful as an extension of parrying.

Breaking someone's guard should be an offensive tool to open up your opponent (like the name states).
Ubisoft should revert the counter guardbreak window back to how it was at launch so that it requires timing to pull off correctly instead of panicked mashing.

>>173821997
>i can't counter guardbreak to save my life, literally.

Fixed that for you.

>>173822343
I'd like this, I've tried getting the new timings down but found that mashing just works 90% of the time.

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Alright /fhg/ give me your idea for a new character in 30 seconds or your waifu gets it.

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>>173822756
Either a European guy with a giant metal double crossbow or a Chinese guy with a box fed chu-ko-nu like pic related.

Can finish chains with devastating point blank shots or hold heavy attack to aim and shoot his opponents from a distance.
Has long reload times between shots/magazine changes.

>>173822756
A pirate

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>>173821238
You sound like a salty shitter.
Why don't you just stop playing?

>>173822756
A canon black hero that moves on all fours.

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>>173822756
Chinese bureaucrat who can summon hordes of footsoldiers to wear down his opponent with attrition.
As the fight progresses he can eventually summon captains to fight for him.

He also has a knife concealed in his robes but sucks ass fighting toe to toe.
Can use his feats in any game mode as an easier way of showing his meters for summons.

>>173823297

i dont know, i dont really even have fun aymore

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>>173823558
What, like literally a cannon?

>>173821541
Anyone heard anything confirmed on Huntress and Ronin?

>>173822756
Rapier and dagger user. Low damage but super pokey and mobile.

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Just came back from a 3 week of not playing

Is warlord still OP? is Peacekeeper still obnoxious? is Lawbringer still low tier?

>>173823984

yes
yes
yes

>>173821653
I can't believe some autismo actually took the time to make that lol.

>>173824045
Not memeing, has the game even got a balance pass in all this time?

>>173824621

all it did was make revenge shit in 4v1 situations now

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>>173822756
Arabian Scimitar warrior that fights like a mix between Warden and Orochi, and has a spinning wind-up like Conq. Also jumping kicks.

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Reminder that PK is balanced and you just need to spend countless hours practicing against her, if you don't do that you're just a shitter.
Also no need to look at what heroes I play, my opinion is 100% unbiased

Im a very relaxed person

why does this game make me som fucking mad?

is this general really already dead?

>>173822756

WW2 gernan machine gunner with mg42

>>173825864
New batch of fresh players will come in the the end of season patch, in 14 days or so.

>>173825864
theres really nothing to discuss outside of 'x is still op for the 8th week in a row' because of how slow ubisoft is. they'll probably change a lot of shit in the season patch, which is when there will be more players coming back to the game.

>>173825345
There's plenty of shit in this game to get mad over
>Some characters are flat out broken. Warlord, PK, Warden, and Shug are all OP, PK with her insane speed and ability to win by spamming one button, and the others for their insane kits
>Defense meta is too strong, faggots know they can win by just sitting back and waiting to parry
>Honorfags will not fuck off and stop trying to treat 4v4 modes as duels, even when they can clearly see the enemies aren't doing honor back and teammates and begging them to stop
>A single person rage quitting is usually enough to make an entire game crash
>Laggy fuckers literally teleport around you mid fight, giving you no chance at all to defend yourself
I don't really get mad at games but this one gets me fucking heated

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now that kensei is p good, should I get the emote?

>>173827579
if you want to waste steel, go for it
considering there are more emotes that haven't been released yet, but the bots can use, I'd wait unless you really love whatever emote you want to get

>>173827809
hmm I'll think about it

i'll wait until the new fighters are out too

>>173819781
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING CONSOLE COMMUNITIES YOU ABSOLUTE MONG

>fight opponent
>he parries all my attacks
>so I turtle up
>he complains I dont attack
>but if I do he just parries and wins

what else can I do?

>>173827809
like today I saw an orochi use his katana like a fucking baseball bat, had a crowd cheering in the background as well, and im p sure that isn't released, meaning that theres going to be another batch of emotes this month.

you know what

I quit duel and brawl modes, the game isnt made for them

juist gonna try have fun in 4v4 and swap back to controller

this game isnt meant for high level play

>>173822756

Conquistador would be pretty kewl, and would be awesome to actually have a knight class that you could see the face xD although no black we wuz europeanz in sheeit pls.

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>>173828540
>xD
I know threads in /vg/ tend to be nicer and more tightly knit than the rest of 4chan, but come on

>>173828934
Yea, idk who told him about 4chan

Why dont you guys like dom? OP classes can get buttfucked by teamwork. No buff pickups. Strategery > Skill. Skill + Stratagization = wins. Its pertty good.

>>173828934

Yeah it's a bad habbit, i could easily say angry taco meme, who told you about you about 4chan.

>>173828934
/vg/ is cancer most of the time

>>173829929
because revenge is still broken with gear stats.

>>173830347
No gear-stats gamemode fucking when

>>173830015
I'm sure your spazziness is appreciated by someone out there.

>>173829929
Dominion is definitely fun. /vg/ hates fun though, so always keep that in mind. Hopefully they'll fix Skirmish some day so that it's equally fun and competitive so that it's not just a steamroll fest lasting a couple of minutes.

>>173830347

nah, people die with revenge all the time. People know how to handle it, and you can time your CC/gb with teammates attacks

>>173830032

Ill never understand the

"/vg/ talks more about games than /v/ meme"

>>173830449
>I'm sure your spazziness is appreciated by someone out there.

I'm not the one spazzing out autistically about a "xD" but more power to you famalam.

>>173830347
>>173830423
Meh, revenge is easy to deal with. The only time it's a problem is when there's a lot of low level players mixed in, because of inexperience in defending and lowbie stats overall are ignorable.

Gear Stats will be a lot better once everyone gets past Rep3, and stats balanced out slightly. A stats rehaul could be really useful tho.

>>173830893

Stop defending 4v4 modes they are shit tastic

Gear stats should be removed

P2P removed from 4v4

>>173830973

>no strategy

>>173831109

Defending gear stats too?

jesus

>>173830453
still cancer when you fight someone 1 on 1 and he gets revenge in 3 hits
>>173830893
>it'll be better when literally everyone in the game is a high level
not really. I'm okay with it being in casual but there should be a ranked playlist with no gearstats or feats. (feats are another big issue with the game, especially direct damage ones that you can rarely dodge because they will curve into you)

>>173830753
I'm just saying, it's the digital equivalent of a Naruto headband. It's cringey to see. You kind of grow out of it, like Axe bodyspray and emo music.

>>173831279
Ranked shitters will destroy this game I swear.

>>173831454
how? they certainly haven't destroyed any other game. It's a fucking competitive game.

>>173831596
>TAKE OUT ALL THE FUN
>NO FEATS
>NO LEDGES
>NO PEACEKEEPERS
>NO WALLS
>ONLY EXACT RANK MATCHING
>NO GEAR STATS
>DUEL MODE ONLY
>WARDEN ONLY
>FOX ONLY
>HEAVEN OR HELL LET'S ROCK

>>173831242

Ya it makes the game less stale, some people are powerful and some people arent, get over it biiiitch. I rep 11 total and dont have a single 108 gear person, and only 1 with all purple. Still do well.

>>173831901
>hurr durr lets say they're removing everything, this strawman will totally work out

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>>173831901
pretty much the progression of this game over a given timeline.

>>173829929
Because I don't have a group of 4 to completely coordinate with, and the enemy team is always coordinating
>Enemies are split into two groups, holding two points
>Try taking C from them, there's an enemy Shug and Nobushi there
>Can't fight one without the other fucking my shit
>Nobushi kicks me, if I get hit I get hugged, if I dodge I get hugged
>Teammates "Just let them have that one lmao"
Seriously, this shit makes dominion unplayable unless you're a premade group

>>173832851
make friends, anon. i believe in you!

>>173832974
I don't. I regularly carry games of elimination and the only ones who want to group up after are the shitters who got zero kills the entire game and want me to continue carrying them

>>173832851
nah fuck that noise, i never group cause fuck everyone and their nigger mothers desu.

If they are split in 2, take B, and then delay them at A or C so they get 0 points from it. if you are not a shitter you can hold it as neutral for a while while your 3 teammates fuck about with the other 2.

And strategery can allow you to win while they hold a capzone for the entire game with a +2. Killing minions on B nets points faster than some fucknut (ESPECIALLY 2 fucknuts) sitting on a point the whole time.

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>>173828934
>threads in /vg/ tend to be nicer and more tightly knit than the rest of 4chan

they need to scrap duel and brawl. the queues are extremely bad because most players are fed up with the gameplay in these modes

you have a squad 4v4 game, fine.

they bit off way more than they could chew and it's time to stop throwing good effort after bad.

>>173833056
that's rough. i mainly find friends in duels and brawls, people who spam emotes back at me and don't play shitter classes and only bm when it's really funny. what platform are you on?

when are the new executions coming out I have almost 12k steel saved but I really want to fucking spend it I can't wait this long

>>173833507
Xbone.
>>173833197
The issue is some people are just plain fucking retarded. I've had dominion games where I hold a point by myself the entire game, never losing it, and the three others on my team can't secure another point themselves.

I'm that fucking faggot who goes to task manager and end proccss of For Honor everytime our team breaks.
All because I'm the only one on the team with 600+ score while everyone else has 150 or less.

I hope the game crashes for everyone. :)

>>173833661

Well you are not using strategy, i just said holding a point the whole game doesnt mean you will win. sometimes, even most times you need to abandon the point as least a little while to help in team fights or to quickly secure B then relocate back to A for instance.

>>173833661
well i'll be on in say around 4 hours if you're free then. i can't promise im not a shitter depending on what your standards are but you're welcome to join me and my roommate as we dick around on this broken ass game while we wait for the patch to drop haha

GT: PeachesThePuss

>>173833805
I can't strategize on xbone when my team doesn't have mics. The problem with leaving to cap another point is that my teammates are literally fucking brain dead. I leave A to go help and secure another point, we end up losing A. I go back to A, we lose the point I just secured.
>>173833838
Might do that

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>boot up for honor
>pick raider
>play vs peacekeeper
>close for honor

>>173832851
Yea, if they're sitting on C all day, that means the entire rest of the battlefield is vulnerable, and those other teammates are left to get slaughtered. One option is to group up and fuck those two guys up. But that camping the point shit gets old real quick, and just ignoring them is even better revenge.

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>>173833801

I dont use mic either, infact i almost always auto mute people who dare to use their fowl voices in my ear. Now im not pretending to be great at this game but like i was sayin in my first post strategy > skill in dom. For instance killing only a certain amount of minions on B will allow your minions to neutralize and take over the point after 5-10 seconds and not make it so 50 of the enemy minions respawn because you killed too many. You can achieve this with a single well placed flash bomb in certain sitation, or a flash and 1 zone attack. And at the start of the game dont kill all the minions in the middle, cause like i said they respawn super fast. So if you wanna camp A, and your whole team is attempting to take C but failing, you can relocate to B, flash it and run to A before the guy you killed is able to respawn and make it all the way back over. And timings of enemy respawns and whether you did a execution on them come into play with teamfights and capping stuff. STRATEGERRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>173834119
Pick Lawbringer
>Play against a high Rep PK
>Stay a round to see if I can ledge them
>Ledge them all three rounds if I can and they bitch about it
>If I can't ledge them just quit
I'm fucking amazed that PKs "nerf" didn't include her goddamn light spam, literally the biggest complaint about her

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>>173834119
>Boot For Honor
>Accidentally Parry someone.
>Everything starts to lag seconds later.
>Connection Error.
>Close For Honor.

>>173834119
It's a sad state of affairs that Raider is at anon, but keep up hope! Devs said they're planning fixes. Also, keep your distance from PKs, their lightspam is only good up close.

>>173822756
Spartan Hoplite

https://youtu.be/36OiRIxup3w

>>173834494
>their lightspam is only good up close.
>Their Dash have range of 30 feet.
>Try to Roll, get Stabbed.
>Can't outdistancee them because 2agile5u

>>173833973
well me and my roommate have a mic to share between us but our setups are right next to each other so you should be able to hear the both of us. we might be a teense bit late because i have to fix an electrical thing before we can hop on but we'll be on sometime past 12am EST tonight if you're interested

>>173834507
It'd be hard to make him much different than a male Valk.

>>173834601
90% of them close the distance with their forward leap stab, and that's super easy to parry/block. Remember, PK's don't have skill, so you just have to fight them remembering that they're clueless idiots.

>>173834482
>that slow ass nobushi top light

Is this really how easy pc players have it?

>>173834494
>Keep your range
>Against mile long dashes the character
>>173834873
You'll block/parry that leap stab once before they just start doing regular dashes to close the distance. "Keep your distance" from a PK is some of the worst advice there is because she won't fucking let you keep distance

>tfw the warden defense force is slowly disappearing from this general

>>173834873
Valk is a mix between a heavy and an assassin, a Hoplite would be pure heavy.

>>173835336
>Tfw it will still be months before devs admit Warden is broken and nerf his shoulder
I have no doubt the devs main Warden. It's the only way to explain his impossible fucking kit.
>It's fair that I can cancel the shoulder to counter your counter
>If I do get the shoulder off then the fight turns into a guessing game where only I actually get rewards for guessing right
Fighting a Warden is so fucking boring because of this shit

>>173822339
Zerker

Why is that I'm able to parry some people yet at same time not others even though they're using same characters?

I kept parrying this one zerk again and again yet another zerk kept hitting me and neither of them were actually feinting just light heavy light heavy.

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>>173835830
net code probably

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>These people literally believe they are the ones being honorable and not stuck up cunts playing by pretend rules

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>>173836052
I just wish they'd fuck off and play Duel

>>173836012
Is the parry failing?
Or is he failing to parry.

>>173836225
That's the parry failing. The animation for a successful parry is starts up but the damage goes through and then so does the stagger.

>>173835613
Yea, sadly only character with quick light attack are able to deal with shoulder vortex effectively. As soon I see the Orange, I spam light attacks and knock them out of it. Works 90% of the time.

Facing off against decent PK who knows where dodge button is, is really annoying. Like what can I even do. Lights 2 Fast for Parry. Keeps being a bitch and dashing upto face, with 100% tech rate.

>Have level 15 gear

>Guy bitches about how OP gear is when i kill him

>>173836204
can you post this .gif in English, please? I don't speak taco.

>>173835019
You forget how vulnerable a character is when it dashes. They can't change guard, it's a free grab, and their light spam has zero range to it. Of course they'll close the distance if you let them, but you need to use your own movement, and you can't just square up with her like you're a tough guy.

>>173822756
Rodelero

>>173836871
I don't either, but it's something along the lines of 'feeling a tasty rhythm'.

Also I think you kinda missed the point of the gif

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>>173835002
must suck to live in drab console peasantry...

>>173835002
Man I know you're being serious, and as a bad player even most lights are hard for me to react. Human benchmark puts me in 260ms category but 90% of time I fuck up my blocks and parries and I don't know why.

>>173835830
Because of For Honor's "unique" (retarded) p2p system. Also it doesn't help the game lost players at record speed, you're probably being matched intercontinentally.

>>173827974
Feint a shit-ton.

>>173836693
Problem is smart wardens will start trying to block/parry your lights when you try to interrupt
>>173836872
You act as if they can't just walk/run forward as well. Are you saying to spend the entire fight backing/dashing back away from them? Because sooner or later you're gonna hit a wall or get GB when you try dashing away.
All a PK has to do to close the distance is run over, and she can block/counter GB anything you throw at her

Man whoever it is that voiced Roach needs a medal. No other character is my favorite just because of their voice acting. That "Nani" when you grab him, I can feel that, "How could this happen to me" on it. And when he blocks your attack and laughs, and is just so smug about it. It's perfect.

>>173837326
Have you tried turning off vsync?
Some other anon mentioned that it helped him a lot a while back.
When I turned it off I noticed I was able to parry a lot more, even lights which I could only barely do before. Could just be a placebo effect though.

How do I play as Zerk? Outside of feinting a lot, that is.

>>173837849
Hmm will try to. Though should I keep Frame rate capped at 60 as well or leave it unlocked?

So what about game modes? People are always asking for character ideas but no game mode ideas.
I'm thinking capture the flag.
Moshpit, basically encourage some serious ganking (this might get them out of normal games), give the map gratuitous hazards (geyers, lava river, regular river, coalesce into an explosive waterfall, spikes everywhere, and it in the middle of a small arena type cliff.) no respawn timer. (gear score may or may not be enabled).
mode called Perfectionist (all characters have 50% of their original health) Note :give Pk 25% of her original health.
"WAR" either a 2v2v2 or a 3v3v3, maybe a 4v4v4 if Ubi can handle it. Capture the flag and dominion mashup, flag is 10 pts zone cap is 20. (flag sits in one's own zone)

I think they need to add more ambience to the map, the games get intense and you can really notice certain sounds.
>better soundtrack
>maybe wolves howling, wind whistling, and ravens crowing when in Valkenheim
>Myre :swamp things or whatever making swamp noises or whatever the fuck they do
Myre maps shouldn't be emo tier, they should be mysterious, foggy, with a light blue hue that and filled with fire flies.
Ashfeld :I don't know... Wind maybe? Horses?

They should add a map that is two viking longships lashed together. Or maybe redo the Viking invasion so one team has to take points, but its like war from that old call of duty or Rush game mode from battlefield. They can call it beachhead in this game, though.
I think a map that's just a flat field surrounded by a forest would be nice. Something that's a bit on the simpler side. Maybe a map that is inside a castle? A map on a beach with sea grass and sand dunes separating the spawns (make it really scenic, sunset when held by Samurai, nighttime when held by vikings, day time when held by knights, just a clear horizon, put effort into the stars when it's night.
In a game that is so focusing to your mind, you'll notice subtleties like this.

>>173838224
I don't play a lot of Zerker, so i am just going to state the things that consistently work against me and my teammates.

Learn to land his counter guardbreak. Since it guarantees a Side heavy and a chain follow-up it will be one of your main offensive tools.
Dodge-counter a lot and learn to mix up your guard. A predictable Zerker is a noobtrap and little else.

Also, feinting is not always a good idea. Works against turtles but aggressive players who know their shit will stuff you like a mofo.

Really though, you are better off just playing Orochi. Until he's nerfed, that is.

>>173838572
Capture the flag would be literally nothing but assassins rolling away

And I'd love an arena mode where it's strictly a free for all. Keep the arena just big enough for everyone to be comfortable fighting, but not big enough that assassins could try running away the entire time to automatically make the final two

>>173838250
The only thing I changed was turning vsync off, rest is up to you and would depend on your situation.

>>173838572
Also they should add a tournament style elimination mode. No buffs and everyone is separated by the map into individual battle spots, let's say by a draw bridge or something.
When you kill your opponent maybe a health buff spawns to let you heal a little, and the bridge automatically lowers and you can go fight someone else who has also won their fight.

I think this mode would appeal to honorfags and get them to leave elimination the fuck alone

Objective Duel mode Tier-list

God Tier:

Nobushi
Orochi

Overrated but still broken tier

Warden

Dev-blessed/Characters with uneven matchups tier

Warlord
Valkyrie
Kensei
Peacekeeper

Viable Tier

Everyone else except...

...Absolute garbage tier

Raider
Lawbringer

>>173839137
well that's a shit list if I've ever seen a shit list

>>173838968
pls no, i dont want orders for this cancer ass mode

>>173839137
it's okay to be a shitter anon, im one too. but at least try to be honest with us.

now tell us, where did the weebs touch you?

>>173838968
>>173839354
>Person loses Duel
>Wonders, "Now what should I do. It's too boring to watch Honor Fags duel 1v1 for 15 minutes"
> TIME TO ALT+F4, WITH NO SURVIVORS.

>>173839337

well that's a shit post if I've ever seen a shit post

>>173838810
I would have thought it to be a bunch a shugoki Lb and Conq manhandling everyone. But I see what you mean with Assassins. Maybe It could be set on a beach map were a tidal pool surrounds the flag? Or maybe the flag itself should make you run slower or make it so you can't dodge or roll? or just make those actions much slower.
The Devs need to invest in making an arena mode...
Or just let players make their own maps, gamemods, etc and then upload them to a community playlist or something. Devs would take the ones they like or hold a vote or something or just put them on rotation or on a selection list with maybe the top three getting their own multiplayer rotation.
>>173838968
That's a really good idea. But I think the honorfags would think its cheap because it's "forced honor". Still cool though if you want a brawl or elimination without the ganking.

>>173839354
>>173839551
I'm just trying to think of a mode, besides the beyond fucking obvious duels, that would make honorfags stop being complete faggots in dominion and elimination

>>173839481

Something tells me you're used to getting rekt by Wardens online
Learn to dodge, scrub.

>>173839582
For Honor with SnapMap?

>>173839551
yeah this seems like bad design, why make a mode where the majority of the time spent is waiting and watching other people play the game. if anything, make it a bunch of simultaneous duels in side by side rooms that only open up when one person is dead

>>173839481
I want Ubi to make our skill ranking visible, but only for a massive steel charge, and only temporarily.

>>173839354
>>173839551
Maybe give incentive for these modes by giving 100 steel the first game and then building up to 500 steel for every subsequent match?
They should rework the steel system so it rewards you more the longer you play with the same people and it should also prompt you to ready up after every match.

They should add an express mode with only 10 seconds in between matches.

>>173838572
Dude, they should just add a 4 player free-for-all already. It's not like the playerbase cares for honor anyway.

>>173839693
right into their loving warm arms as they GB right? or do you mean roll away and use half my stamina so i can get out one attack as an LB instead of two?

shitposting aside, seriously, what's your problem with nobushi it seriously confuses me. maybe you're mad at flicker zone roaches and i get that but bushi? why? pls explain anon, you're doin me a confuse

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>>173839658
They already have duel and sometimes brawl, what more should they get?
My answer: nothing.
Actually, give players symbols/emblem borders based on their most played game type and see the honorfags flock to the "I duel exclusively" look.

>>173839858
i think ubi has enough temporary massive steel charges as is, i dont think they need more ideas in this department.

in other news, welcome to ubisoft, here's your badge, and i'll see you in the office by next monday morning

>>173838683
>orochi
>nerfed

What? He's underpowered. The only thing that should be fixed is his ridiculous damage on his top light, and his zone being safe on block.

His flicker bug needs to be addressed some how, but that's not a class feature, and he's still underpowered.

>>173839914
well sure, i agree with this idea, but i still think a mode where we all just sit around jerkin our dicks waiting for two pk's to spazz out in each other's general directions is boring as shit just so we can uphold some dumb "honor" rule

>>173838683
you do realize orochi is bottom tier and he's going to get buffed, right? this isn't launch anymore.

>>173840103
Personally I wish you could report honorfagging in 4v4 modes and get them warnings/bans because that shit is literally griefing your team.

And honorfags want EVERY mode to be honor shit, I've tried arguing with them to go to fucking duels but I always get "The game is called for honor scum, I bough it and I'll play how I want" shit.

This shit is just baffling. Can you imagine playing Siege and pulling honorfag shit? Or any other game

>>173840197
what about taking retarded-ass quick chat off an important bumper button and instead remap it to zone? either that or make feint while not heavy-ing be zone attack, so feinting a zone is as simple as feint feint

>>173840015
>right into their loving warm arms as they GB right?

It's a 50-50, anon, do it right and one of you is going to get GB'ed. Or just delay the dash and get the timing just right. It will net you a light attack,too.

>what's your problem with nobushi it seriously confuses me.

Dude if you don't hate dueling nobuchi then you have never faced a decent nobushi player. she can cancel any of her moves into a mad loop for some decent health or stamina damage, when not applying poison, that is.
She is also one of the very few characters who cannot be punished upon parry due to dat range. Makes matchups for some characters almost impossible.

Also remember, this is a Duel mode tier list.

>>173840273
>orochi is bottom tier and he's going to get buffed
That's an interesting way of saying "He's going to lose his zone glitch"

>>173840273
>can combo two light attacks
>dodge guard
>GB into heavy into light attack mixup
>Bottom tier

>>173840427
>warden defense-forcing in 2k17

c'mon anon you can't seriously be doing this shit rn. we both know warden has just a few too many options from his shoulder bash. cancelling it mid dash with a gb or being able to cancel 20+ times (24 according to ScottJund) without running out of stamina to fish for eternity is a bit retarded.

and idk man nobushi is an annoying matchup depending on what class you play. maybe play a lb and go to town parrying and get them sweet guaranteed stuns as your lawman zooms forward to bitchslap her

>>173840672
also just to add on to my point earlier about the warden shit, warden's don't get untechable GBed if they whiff SB but if i guess wrong oh well i guess i get to eat a heavy for free because fuck me im not playing posterboy right? how is this a fair 50/50? man can literally cancel mid-dash into GB after i've already reacted.

Playing as raider for first time in ages, jesus christ this fucking sucks :( feel your pain raiderbro's.

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>>173840357
The actual playerbase mindset actually remind me of the early days of Overwatch.
Everyone would bitches about their team picking unneeded heroes like that faggy bow users or the naruto wannabe instead of a healer and said they report people like that, the thing is, as shitty as it is they DID bought the game, and like in Overwatch, there is no rules preventing them to play the game however they want to as long as they do not use third party software to gain an unfair advantage.

Honorfagging is stupid but it's not going to go away.

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If this were Duel, i'd be shutdown in 50 different ways and be dead before you could say "No Supestes".

>>173840872
Pre-Patch fighting Raider was one of my favorite things as LB.

>>173840525
>>173840596
the dev team has literally said that they are going to buff him, as well as raider, probably in the next patch.

>>173839137
Actual Duel Mode Tier List

SS Tier:
Warlord
Warden
Shugouki

S Tier:
Peacekeeper
Valkyrie

A Tier:
Orochi
Nobushi
Kensei
Conqueror

A- Tier:
Lawbringer
Berserker
Raider

Outside of the broken as fuck top tier this game is balanced decently.

>>173840672

Dude i am not saying Warden is bad or anything, he is in fact pretty powerful and more than deserving of a nerf.
My gripe is more with how the community treats him like the sole cancerous growth that is one-handedly screwing the game's balancing.

Truth is the warden is hands-down the most plain and predictable character in the cast, his sole offensive option being his shoulder mixup, since his zone attack only works on noobs anyway. You know you're playing a basic bitch when the kensei makes him look complex by proxy.

>>173840427
>It's a 50-50, anon, do it right and one of you is going to get GB'ed
Except Warden can counter GB, which just sets you back to neutral. It's literally a guessing game where only Warden is rewarded for guessing correctly
>Dude just time the dodge and light attack
Warden can also block immediately after missing a shoulder. There's no punishing him for guessing wrong

>>173841162
now that's what i call shitposting, anon! :^)

>>173841228
well then my bad anon, i just had to reach around to make sure warden hadn't stuffed his pommel up your butthole since it seems like there's a lot of those kinds running around these days. sure there's worse, but being plain and predictable doesn't stop him from being a broken ass character that literally does no wrong as long as he plays the guessing game meta.

>>173841047
Almost every buff is also met by nerfs. They'll probably nerf his zone speed and make it punishable on block, but buff his normal light and heavy speeds.

Raider honestly isn't even that bad. His skill is controlling where the fight takes place with his insane guardbreaks. It's just that guardbreaks are practically useless outside of parries in fights where both people know what they're doing.

>>173840596
>only 2 viable attacks
>everything else is a free parry
>no way to open up turtles
>anything but bottom tier
Really makes you think.

>brawl
>First round against turtling conqueror
> he waits till I come back from grabbing a snack
>Maybe he's honorable
>He does nothing but spam bash and light attack over and over, with an occasional grab
What do you do against turtling and spammer people as an LB?

>>173841401
>instead of disputing any claims you just say "lol ur dum"
Whoa, got me!

>>173822756
Hook swords. The end parts of chains hook the blades to extend the reach so you can wiff some short range attacks then catch an opponent with a sudden range bump.

>>173841521
haha it was a compliment, i was appreciating the joke of putting everyone at the top and saying the game was balanced aside from the top while still giving an actual reasonable order for a tier list

>>173841162
>Warlord SS Tier
Dude just learn to counter GB's and that character is done for. I mean he's not bad, but still...

>SS Tier Shugoki
Nicely memed, friend.

>>173822756
I know it's stupid but I still want my peacekeeper replacement: a Jester that uses both his fists and a shortsword.
His moves have to be really smooth like the Nobushi

>>173841664
There are that many characters in the top tier though. They're the only ones that aren't really at a disadvantage fighting each other because they all have something really strong about them.

>>173841693
Warlord is still great in duels even with his headbutt nerf, and Shugouki has some of the strongest punishes and mixups in the game.

Why does people leaving crash the game?
Also does it matter if they're pulling plug, alt-f4ing or quit to world map?

>Boot For Honor
>Start Duel.
>Everyone is PK or Warden.
>Switch to Dominion.
>3 People are ganking up on 1 guy.
>Other side of map 1 Guy is killing 2 of us.
>While our 4th partner is no where to be seen, most likely so up in the soldier alley he has no idea what to do.

>>173841920
b/c of the way p2p host migration works, especially with the way ubi's p2p system works. a lot of network issues start to make a lot more sense when you read into it a bit.

>>173841872

I get what you are saying, the Warlord IS still great, but he does come with a shit-ton of disadvantages that completely forbid him of being the cream of the crop.

>Shugouki has some of the strongest mixups in the game.

God i almost choked with this one. Shugoki? Mixups? You mean the slowest faint on the game, followed by one of the slowest lights ( that cannot combo, mind you) of the cast? Jesus christ, he still performs decently at duels due to rampant advantageous trading, but that is some major bias ya got there, anon.

>>173841872
yeah i mean to be fair, fighting outside of top5 feels pretty balanced and varied, so i get your point. some parts of top5 are just waaaay outta whack though, and it doesn't help how popular they are. sometimes i forget the game balance isn't actually as bad as it can seem sometimes because of confirmation bias

>>173842063
Did not know the game allowed you to make teams of five, anon.

Duel of the century:

Raider Vs. LB

Wich one sucks the most?

>>173842276
Shugouki has the safest 50/50 in the game, and the most punishing by far.

>>173842521
Fuck off, they're both decent characters. The same people clammoring for Raider buffs are the same people that got Lawbringer buffed into a completely different character.

>>173842724
>got Lawbringer buffed
>buffed
>even worse now

>>173842724
>LB got buffed
>Literally nothing changed with his ability to open people up which is his main fucking problem

>>173842387
3v1 Going on At Point A.
1v2 Going on at Point B
1 Retard going all alone at Point C.
Do the math.

>>173840596
>GB into heavy into light attack mixup
Literally what are you on about?

>>173840412
Using the quickchat option would be smart, but
>ubisoft

>>173842950
And you, buddy? Up in the clouds doing math on God's abacus?

>>173843008
He probably talking about getting hit by Guard Break Heavy. Then Neutral Top Light/Zone.

>>173842781
He's not worse balance wise, but mechanically and design wise absolutely.

>>173842906
I mean, you expect Ubisoft to know how to balance? Almost all buffs and nerfs should be met with something of the opposite, but in the case of characters like Warlord, Peacekeeper, and Conqueror, they barely touch them and then in the case of Peacekeeper, the most complained about character, they fucking BUFF her more than they nerf her.

>>173842724

>Shugouki has the safest 50/50 in the game

Dude Shugoki is parry bait incarnate.
Shugoki has to commit to each and everyone of his attacks on a game where almost everyone can feint. His Damage per blow may be high, but the rest of the cast can do way more damage via mixups and strings the Shugoki just doesn't have.

Also did you just imply Raider is anything short of a dumpster fire?

>>173843125
That's not a mix-up though. All that needs to be done to counter that is block up, and prepare to parry that, or the zone. If he flickers, that's a different story, but that's not a class feature.

>>173843325
All he has to do is run at you with his armor and you have to roll away and lose 50% of your stamina just to avoid getting hit. You must be a
t. Shugouki player

>>173843325
And this makes it okay for him to have the safest 50/50 why? He charges you down and he gets a free heavy off it. If you manage to dodge he's too far away for you to hit him.
Also Shugs hyper armor makes him grabbing you through attacks easy as shit

>>173843370
>prepare to parry that, or the zone.
>Prepare to parry an ambiguous blow from a direction you don't know

Good luck with that, man. The only reason Orochi got that bad rap is because Scrubs started to flock en masse to him once they learned he was broken on early game.

>>173843139
Ubi has made it clear they have no idea how to balance
>Literally said they want to buff Law, but focus on his 1v1 abilities because he's already strong in 4v4
>The buff literally only helps him in 4v4 madness
That and the PK nerf didn't even touch her lights, which is what almost every complaint about her was about

>>173843565
I can do it, and I'm on console. It's literally not that hard.

>>173843473
Fuck man that is scrubby as fuck.
Rolling isn't even necessary, and even if it was you still end up with more stamina than him, since that move eats up that bar completely, on top of being unsafe.
Also, it is pretty dang predictable. Shugoki needs to deactivate lock on to do it, so reacting to it is a breeze.

>>173843492

>If you manage to dodge he's too far away for you to hit him.

Only if you roll and screw up your timing.

>Also Shugs hyper armor makes him grabbing you through attacks easy as shit

A shugoki spamming GB is a dead shugoki. His armor isn't a luxury, it is a bare necessity, one good players don't waste on empty spamming.

>>173843946
>rolling isn't necessary
>when half of the mixup is a guardbreak
Yeah you're fucking stupid.

>Warning! For Honor is region locked and CAN'T be activated and played in the following countries: United States,
Its not fair

>>173843904

Dude if you can parry the fastest light attacks on the game then every hero sucks. I doubt you really can do that, but if you can... Must be nice to be you.

>>173844031
>rolling isn't necessary when half of the mixup is a guardbreak
>FUCKING USING A ROLL TO ESCAPE A GUARDBREAK

dude, just stop. Please... stop.

>>173843120
i have no idea why i want to go into this industry, it seems like the ones who do the best are retarded. should i just end it now anon?

>>173844125
The thing about orochi is those are his only two good moves, so you know they're going to come from either of those directions. If they come from a different direction, in other words, left, then they're slow enough to react to.

There's nothing else he can do that is hard to react to, nothing whatsoever.

I'll admit that I'm not perfect, and I miss parries fairly often, and as such the "mix-up" we're discussing right now sometimes gets me, but it's really not that hard.

Just watch the indicator, and react accordingly. Again, if he does the flicker, then yes, that's bullshit.

The reason I said to block top instead of to the right is because the top light is more damaging, so if you don't react fast enough to parry, you can block, or if he throws out a zone, it's not as damaging.

>>173844228
>if you don't dash you get hit by the Oni Charge
>if you dash you get hit by the guardbreak
>only "safe" option is to roll away and hope the Oni Charge doesn't hit you

>>173844228
Are you fucking retarded?
>Shug charges at you
>His mix up is either he charges you down to the ground for a free heavy, or he cancels and GBs you
>If you dodge you cannot tech his GB
>Either way unless you roll he's getting a heavy

>>173825009
>i main lawbringer

>>173844478
No, anon. If you can actually create a game that's good, then these retarded companies might have to step up their game to compete.

Reason I say might is because there will always be retards that buy trash anyway

>>173844478
>Want to go into the industry to do VA work
>There's literally no way in unless you know someone and spend forever doing work for free to build a portfolio
>Have no computer skills like coding that would be relevant to making games to try getting in that way
>Not going to take classes on how to make games because that shit usually leads nowhere
Dreams over before they began.

I'm trying to figure out what to go to school for right now. Don't want to make a mistake

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>>173844125
>MFW know a guy who can legit parry most the light attacks
>The only one he has trouble with is PK's Zone.
>Jokingly duel with him.
>He just parries all lights from every one.
>watch him duel other people.
>Repeat and top heavy everyone.

>>173836428
that just looks like the block animation to me, not parry animation

>>173844547
>so you know they're going to come from either of those directions.

Sounds like you've been facing some pretty scrubby orochis, mate. But then again so do I. Just when i do get to duel a good Orochi... Well, fuck. Good players KNOW these are his only great moves and thus will know only to use them when you do not expect it.

>The reason I said to block top instead of to the right is because the top light is more damaging, so if you don't react fast enough to parry, you can block, or if he throws out a zone, it's not as damaging.

Fair enough, i concede. His damage is pretty weak, but death by a thousand cuts is still death nonetheless.
If he just wasn't such a safe character (on good hands, of course), then he truly would be bottom tier.

>>173844916
If he's that good he should stream or some shit

>>173842521
m8 raider's suckage is unparalelled. at least LB gets to punish parries while raider only gets a parrybait unblockable and a move that only works near walls.

>>173842521
Raider. You literally have to parry lights or keep people out of stamina to do anything and hope they suck at GB's.

>>173845434
>>173845523

You two are being to precocious on your judgment. Remember, most heroes can already punish on parry wich makes the LB obsolete.
Not to mention, at least the raider can chain lights, wich the LB cannot.

>>173842276
If they nerf the fuck out of Shugoki 50/50, which they absolutely should, they need to fix his feint as well. Right now if someone baits a parry from you, you can't feint in time to block the follow up or counter the GB. That will be killer for him at high level play.

Is this game dead yet, asking for a friend

>>173844832
>in the exact same boat
>no motivation or aspirations

why do i live

>>173846131
>Is this game dead yet

nah not really, just a salt mine.

>>173846209
You live to just slack off and distract yourself with video games.
I'm trying to get motivated to go to school and get a degree so I don't work minimum wage all my life. I'm considering broadcasting or something, where I could work with my voice.
I don't know, this is something I need to be 100% on before I actually start classes

>Dark Souls at high/meta level is passive fuckery.
>For Honor at high level is more passive shittery.

Will we ever get a good action game>

>>173846346
Is it possible for new players to get into it at this point?

>>173846510
i don't even know what i CAN do
i'm so anxious around people and am 100% self-loathing, so i can't even recognise if i can do things well because it'll never be enough

>>173846592
Nah, there is absolutely no matchmaking. New players would mostly get shitstompted in Duels/Elimination and Dominion is just shitter where everyone else has 108 gold gear and they gain revenge on quick bursts.

>>173846545
The upcoming game made by Chivalry players who got mad after devs shit all over the game. It looks promising

>>173846674
Is the learning curve and skill ceiling really that bad? Rainbow Six Siege has no matchmaking but anyone can get good after several matches if they arent braindead.

>>173846597
Try finding something you're interested in and go from there. I downloaded sony vegas and I'm gonna try learning to edit videos and work with audio shit as well, might be helpful to know in the future.
I'll probably end up making some for honor videos as well

>>173846782

Pick one class and get stomped for 3 prestiges, then you should be alright, i started a month after release and i didnt feel "alright" til about then.

>>173846545
Dark Souls is a great action game, but the PvP is shit. I still want Arisen duels in Dragon's Dogma goddamnit. I even tried playing DDO through a proxy and it was straight garbage.

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Why the fuck is revenge in a 1v1 still a thing? Jesus fuck I am tired of winning a fight and then when I go for a final blow some cock sucking weeb goes super saiyan, knocks me down and two hits me. Fuck off Ubisoft.

>>173844740
thanks anon, you give me hope.

and even if i don't make good games, maybe the tards will confer riches unto me?

>>173844832
>>173846209
damn, i guess i should consider myself lucky that i love coding as much as i do vidya then. dw anon, im sure you'll get there one day. ganbatte!

>>173847267

I hate that shit so much.

>kicking someone's ass
>lmao no revenge
>they kill you in two hits

Game literally punishes you for not taking hits, it's goddamn bullshit.

>>173847410
Exactly. Those french fucks at Ubi can't make a balanced game for shit.

Full Defense Warlord should be illegal. How do you even fucking counter someone who just holds block entire time, gains revenge, then fuck entire team.

>>173847670
I'm pretty close to burning down a school if those french fucks at Ubi won't fix this

>>173837109
>not a hero?

My African comrade

>>173846886
all i have is video games

you should totally post those when you do them though

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>play against conqueror
>lack the superhuman reaction time needed to side step his shield bash

is there really any hope after that point?

>>173847962
I will. Have a decent idea for a video, just need to get recording

>>173847670
Guardbreak, my friend.

Worth mentioning every block at full guard mode eats at his Stam bar, so you will get him exhausted before he can deal meaningful damage with his counters.

>>173848165
>Guard Break them
>They Tech it.
>Throw a light
>They parry it.
>dodge their headbutt
>They magically hit me with light anyway.

>>173848360
If they're in superior block they cannot tech your GB

>>173848515
I've never seen a warlord in their all stance guard. ever. And honestly why would they be? You block any attack and you gain 100% auto block for next .5 seconds anyway so they only gotta focus on blocking first attack.

>>173840672
Warden is the epitome of balance. Make everyone his level, dont change him.

>all attacks have a use
>way to open up defensive players
>best aesthetic

>>173836204
Duel has shitty maps. Deal with it faggot.

>>173848695
In a way I agree but seriously fuck his bash-gb cancelling. If he wants to guard break he should feint into guard break instead of cancelling into it.
Aside from that he is what every other class should be balanced into.

>>173841162
>Put valk above pk, but move warden to above valk.
>Put shug above warlord, 50/50 memes

>>173848695
>>173848813
problem is though, change that part of SB and the vortex becomes a lot easier to deal with and he'll be a lot different in terms of playstyle. relentless offense will no longer net the kind of rewards it used to and im pretty sure warden mains would start crying about their SB being nerfed too hard and Ubi ruining their fun

>>173848971
Then remove the feinting. I should be able to hit him with top light / dash light as punish for spamming that shit then.

>>173842118
Where can I read more into this?

>>173848813
Id say just make it slower, because making someting more complex and clunky to input for the same results is just bad design. Its crazy what you can do with it too, you can do like half a bash into cancel gb.

>>173849107
Then why use it at all, this is hust going to make defense better.

The answer is buffs not nerfs.

>>173827279
>Fight a Warlord
>His defense as well as his offense are both perfect
>Warlord hits fast with lights, real hard on heavies, and super armor in everyfucking thing
>When in doubt, Headbutt it down
>Even if not, Headbutt anyways
>Drains stamina and combo into whatever else
>It's not a timing split second reaction thing, it's just Warlord
>Or just turtle a fucking atom bomb with guard down, who cares

That's it

I'm annoyed
I'm irritated, infuriated, rashed, molested, angried, irated, butt blasted, flustered

A sepulcral silence came from Ubisoft from so much time it bodes 2 patches in a year and a sequel soon after for 60$ "fixing stuff", then a massive backlash that will erupt from the urticated fanbase

And the worst of all is that a For Honor 2 game may even be better at this point. Too many completely fucked up things in this one but you can't accept it out of spite to them.

>>173848695
God no, even if we buff everyone else Warden needs a nerf because his guessing game bullshit is both boring and cheap as shit to play against
>Actually defending a move that devolves the entire fight into a guessing game where only the Warden gets to deal damage, the best you can hope for is going back to neutral
It's beyond broken and anyone defending it is a Warden main who heavily relies on it, like all Wardens do.
He can cancel the shoulder to counter your counter, the entire thing costs very little stamina, and he can do it over and over again.

Everyone needs a way of opening people up, but don't devolve the goddamn game into guessing bullshit

>>173849809
Fine Lets give retarded ideas that'd buff every class.

Orochi also gets a stick down move that's basically General Tozen's I can parry in all direction bullshit.It can be held as long as stamina is left, but person cannot tech a GB.

Pulling Stick Down on Raider gives him Legendary Status and will continuously drain stamina and he gains hyper armor and all moves are unblockable though he cannot move from the spot.

Zerker gets ability to do a running dropkick that has 100% knockdown. He can also do this after a heavy attack. Same speed as Nobushi.

>>173850251
Zerker doing a drop kick sound rad.
He better scream some retarded shit at the top of his lungs too.

>>173850563
It just felt in character honestly. Game also really needs more grappling moves, I wish instead of simply doing heavies after GB we could do some grapple moves instead.

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For future reference here's a copy pasta of what the OP should look like.
Retards can't into making OP edition.

Previously on /fhg/ >>>>173819781


>New V105 patch is out for PC/consoles waiting certification.
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-288027-16/release-notes-for-v105

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK (embed)

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

**ATTENTION CONSOLE BROS**
There is now an official PS4 and XB1 Community!

If you would like to join, search For Honor General (PS4)
For Honor General Official (XB1)

or

Message/add TheSteroid386 (PS4) or metalkid267 (XB1) and we will invite you.

1v1 tourney on PS4 this week!!!

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>>173848067
dude its really not that hard.

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>>173852504

Fuck man that's some gay shit.

>>173852504

they're both morons

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>>173852504
Jesus Christ, I'm glad children are learning important things in school now a days. Idiots.

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>>173852504
>Have you not seen the movie 300
People are so fucking retarded with their ideas

>>173852504
Fuck. Not every one of us is that stupid anons, have a little faith in us DeusVulters

>>173853717
>pro or noob, you are death.
>good or bad gear, you are death.

I seen that in previous thread, fucking gold man.

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>>173853787
I check the official forums once a day for salt/autism to post in the threads. Almost always find something.

>Ganking is dishonorable so you should be punished for it through revenge being broken

>>173853717
To be fair, revenge is useless without super armor, I have no idea why they changed that.

>>173854115
Yeah that's something that's just fucking retarded. Revenge is now only useful for people with knock down shoves

>>173853787
But isn't that actually truth?

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>Ledge the same opponent three rounds in a row
>Get this
Top laugh

>>173854465
upvoted

>>173854040
>What is the name of the game? FOR HONOR

My sides fucking ejected on that one.
Prestige Kek

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Seriously, what's up with people losing and then sending saltmail acting as if they're more skilled?
Got this one a while back
>Playing rep 1 Shug in elimination
>Enemy team has 3 high rep 108 gear Wardens
>Ends up 1v3, me against all the Wardens
>They're guarding the only body I can pick up, right next to an attack buff
>Charge past them and grab the buff
>Block and build revenge
>Pop it and kill two of them at once with an unblockable
>Fight and kill the last one
>"Y-your playstyle is trash even though I lost"
Why even bother messaging me?

FUCK SUPER ARMOUR

that is all

>>173854040
>3 people found this helpful

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>>173852504

>dude stop complaining about top light and AoE man, it's all Orochi can do
>Ubisoft is going to buff his other tools so people shut up and he's even more annoying

>>173856756
Only problem I have with Orochi's zone is that the indicator can be glitched, and that's fucked up man.

>>173856980
without the flicker, orochi is completely useless against a turtle

>>173857351
That's not an excuse.

>>173857351
>counter attacker is useless against a defensive character
WHOA

>>173822756
Slingshotter, a hard counter to any heavy class, but weak to very femenine classes

>>173857386
it's just an observation

>>173857409
you can turtle with any character. that's not a meaningful statement

>>173857901
It's a problem with the game, not Orochi. Everybody hates the defensive meta.

>>173857351
Lawbringer is always useless against a turtle, doesn't mean Orochi deserves literally broken mechanics

>Start a match against a guy
>He picks Shugoki
>Quit because I don't want to deal with 50/50 charge spam
>Restart game, look for another match
>Same guy

Thanks, Ubi.

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>>173858203
>get sick of shitty teammates in duels
>decide to just play some Dominion
>get queued up
>see this
>immediately quit
>get put back
>quit again
>stop playing

>>173858476
>Go against someone in duels
>They keep stance changing
>Over and over, in a circle
>Pointlessly
>They just turtle
>They don't even try to feint or parry
>They just wait for me to attack then do a dodge attack or grab
>Tell them "Fuck off"
>Alt-F4

Don't entertain this kind of person.

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>You can still parry Raiders zone attack in duel/brawl when he gb's you.

I did that yesterday with warlord, the fuck my guys.

>>173858750
You can? A Raider grabbed me earlier and I tried to parry it, but couldn't. I was playing Lawbringer, though.

>>173858750
I thought only assassins could do that

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>dominating this nobushi in skirmish
>He keeps spamming wow everytime I kill him
>He ganks and kills me for the first time in the game
>Ubisoft servers not available
>Message:"That's what I thought."
>"."

Y-YARROOOOOOOO

>>173822756
A Knight Hybrid who uses a Rapier. Has 120 Health. Has Parry Stance that'll auto parry all attack with unique animation but everyone will be pushed far back enough so they can't be grabbed, can only be used to confirm a light. Third Side Light is guaranteed if second one hits. Attack chain include R1-R1-R1, R1-R2, R2-R1-R1.

A Viking Hybrid who uses a Greataxe. Basically a BKGA. Has 135 Health. Third heavy is Unblockable. Has Ability of War Cry after confirm heavy that stuns/pushes back? anyone in melee range. War Cry can be followed up by next chain attack. Chain Attacks are, R1-R1-R2. R2-R1-R2. R2-R2-R1.
Alternatively instead of stunning someone Warcry gives 3 second damage boost.

Did I do good /fhg/?

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>>173859001
Did you message back with a challenge, or accept defeat to ubi's trash server connections?

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>>173859157
>that pic

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>>173859157
Law doesn't reply to filthy nobushis.

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I haven't played this game for a month or two. What's so fucked that it's getting all these horrible steam reviews?

>>173858476
>complains about shitty teammates
>is shitty teammate

>>173859608
Servers, balance, Jews.

>>173859608
people suddenly remembering that this game is indeed run by ubisoft

>>173858831
>>173858998
I thought I didn't save that.

I did. The game wasn't this choppy, it's shadowplay bug.

>>173859001
>Absolutely crush a beserker in elimination as Warlord
>He sends me a metric fuck ton of salt and demands a rematch
>I'm playing with friends, so I tell him no
>Next day play elimination as my Lawbringer
>Get thrown into a game with two bots on my team from the start
>Should have just quit, but stayed
>Get to the tie breaker round, but end up losing
>Instantly get a message
>It's from the guy I crushed yesterday, he was on the enemy team and got carried
>Talking shit about beating me while I'm playing Lawbringer (console, so pre buff) on a team with two bots
Some people are too autistic

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>>173860463
What the fuck. Here.

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>>173860346
It's like suddenly remembering that your wife's son is half-black and that you've made a horrible mistake.

>playing 2v2
>game crash as soon as i get killed while playing as orochi
fuck you ubisoft now they'll think i'm a shitter

>>173862173
>2v2 with a buddy
>Tie breaker round finish my guy off
>Watch my friend 1v1, they're both one hit from dead, but I have full health
>Enemy gets revenge, I go in to GB him
>Game boots me, teamate dies to revenge
T-thanks ubisoft

>See someone play XY
>Quit
>;___;
Just play against bots, both the playerbase and you would be better off.

>>173860639

Finally more punishes to Raider ZA spam ^^

>>173862973
>Dude just accept people playing absolutely broken characters or don't play at all
No thanks, I'll keep quitting duels against PKs, Warlords, Wardens, and Shugs if they're high rep

>>173845709
>chain lights
You mean less damaging heavies?

>>173863245

Are you unable to dodge nu-headbutt or are you unable to CGB? Because both would be pretty embarrassing.

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Do you guys actually like the game, or do you just have fun getting mad at it?

>>173863437
When I get mad I just get up and rape my boyfriend so I never get too into my rage.

>>173863437

I still play it, doing my orders at least. So every second day I barely play because daily orders are done in 5 minutes.

>>173863148
what're you talking about?

are you retarded?

>>173863417
Neither, high rep Warlords in duels however do fucking NOTHING but turtle and wait to parry.
My idea of fun isn't dealing with a faggot who refuses to throw out an attack and just waits to counter mine. Especially when half the maps on duels have ledges that Warlord can easily get an insta kill on if he parries you once

>>173863640
That was clearly sarcasm

>>173863437
I like it, but the connection issues and honorfags are the biggest turn off for me. After that balancing is definitely an issue

Nothing turns me off of the game more though than trying to enjoy a game of elimination just to have an honorfag on my team who won't do anything besides 1v1s, even if you literally save them from being killed

>>173863708
>in duels however do fucking NOTHING but turtle and wait to parry.
Everyone does that anon, that is high level play.

>>173863861
And when they do that in duels I just quit to find people not following the defense meta.
I've literally had several rounds of elimination come to a tie because the final fight it's me versus someone turtling, and Lawbringer can't open up a turtle. So I just turtled right back and it was a literal staring contest with us trying and failing to GB each other.
They need to fix the defense meta

>>173848165
It doesn't take up his stamina on Xbox. I've seen a maxed out war demolish 4 prestige 4-7s by full guard then revenge in two seconds and then head butting everyone onto the ground only to do tons of zone attacks then go back into full guard. Whenever he zone attacked he would unlock so he his regen feat kicked in for a few ticks so he legit could not be killed.

>Solo que into elimination
>Get matched against a premade that all have the same emblem
>It's three Valks and a PK
Premades should strictly be matched against other fucking premades.

post stream predictions
>raider
>pk
>berzerker and how they fucked her up soo bad
>"come back next week for more info on defence meta and how we're fixing it"
>something something stats and statistics
>Raider is a pk killer