/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

>>173810162
i want to fug that droid.

>>173810162
You're a good guy, OP

>>173810162
Thanks OP.

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OP will never rest edition

>>173810268
>>173810141
>Enslaving your own.
I tried being authoritarian, banned slavery and used robots for menial labor. Authoritarian faction was 15% happy because I didn't enslave my own people.

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>>173810162

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>>173810162
>Hmm, so lewd though

>>173810478
15%+ happy which is good, or just 15% overall faction happiness which is horrific?

>>173810162
So, I own a legit copy of Stellaris. If I pirate Utopia, is it still possible to play multiplayer? I've no idea how it works with DLC but hell if I agree with Paradox's way of doing it.

System survey complete.

>>173810685
15% overall faction happiness which is crippling when it's the main faction and during early game.

>>173810268
But I like the dudes I made, and I don't want them enslaved.

>>173810692
Yes it is

You also don't need to pirate it at all if the host has the DLC.

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i wish stellaris was this

>>173810860
Science ship under attack

>>173810960
Oh damn, didn't know that second part. Thanks anon.

>>173810945
Its for the hive.

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>star empire
>a faction for the democratic and progressive rights of aliens
>who were uplifted from flinging shit at each other

It's treason then?

So someone told me mechanist lowers your robot upkeep cost, is this true? I can't find anything concrete on my own, and if so anyone know how much?

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>putting a defense station on the jump-in point

DEVILISH

>>173811079
It's one of the nicer parts to paradox DLC.

Though you still can't be plants and shit if you don't have that pack and shit.

>>173810891
goddamnit that's fucked up, I wanted to do a Roman empire role-play with robot slaves. Why the fuck do paradox have to shit all over the interesting mechanics

>>173811207
You know you can force the jump in station to be where the defence station is right?

>>173811182
it's your own damn fault if you uplift a species and teach them ethics that go against your mainstream.

>>173811212
So what happens if you make a race with one of the dlc exclusive civics well in mp then try to load up a game with them in sp not owning it?

>>173811212
Actually I don't know about multiplayer but there is a workaround for that. Two lines of code and you have that DLC.

>>173811207
Most stations have flypaper mods anyway, so any incoming vessel lands on top of them. I stick mine over the star and surround it with concentric rings of minefield stations.

At least before 1.5, the AI couldn't into avoiding systems like that, and it doesn't seem to take stations into account when determining relative military strength.

I forced Hyperlane in my SP game because it's pretty comfy and I have a decent start but I'm considering restarting with Wormhole.

Do I stick with Hyperlane and be able to block people I don't like or do I go Wormhole and go superspeeds?

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>Go supremacy approach
>get assraped by multiple AI early on because they didn't like my harsh tone when we first met

>Go diplomacy approach
>Have everyone reject my invitation to federations while they go and start their own

I think I have made a mistake with purchasing this game

>>173811562
I put it where it is because of the wormhole generator. They seem too valuable to leave undefended so I'd rather the AI has to fight a defense station before killing the generator. I give the station an FTL inhibitor thing so it gives my main fleet time to jump in and defend the station. It's usually good bait.

If I have legit base game, but all the DLC are pirated, can I still play multiplayer?

If no, then to play multiplayer all I have to do is throw the original files back in to the folder and disable DLC, right? I don't need to delete the dlc folders too?

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>tfw you conquer 6 new worlds as a Hive

>>173810971
It's sad, if Stellaris had the character significance of CK2, the CB, fortress and peace-deal mechanic of EU4, the population manage of Vicky2 and the Front Line mechanics of HoI4, it'd be a fucking amazing game. As it stands, it's somewhat fun but just lacks everything.

Your empire has no identity past the one you want it to have. No where does it really interact with anything in any meaningful way.
Wars suck crusty cunt and just involve stack wiping and going after everything in exhaustive detail.
Your pops literally don't matter. No one gives a fuck and you can't change ethos or time (last time I played) or anything.
Even declaring wars is fucking boring. You set your wargoals and can either achieve them or not. There's nothing that incentivizes holding what you actually want to have and encourages just wiping shit out, with the catch that, if you actually went and wiped everything out, you can't actually just take the lands you destroyed, forcing you into several long and extremely boring wars, the third of which will definitely end in your target ending up under some other empire or, worse, a federation.

It's fucking sad.

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What should I build to counter AI who spam PD, cutting lasers and disruptors? All I have are level 3 fighter/bombers, level 4 missiles and level 3 disruptors. My ships are all armor and shield, so I get dicked by these guys.

>>173810162
THICC

>>173812132
Too versatile, too casual.

It'll only be good after 5 DLCs. Already they added factions and internal politic.

>>173810960
Do I need to remove my dlc files/disable my DLCs if I want to play, or can I leave my cracked files?

>>173812249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEgwxGWgiIg

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>>173812221
KINETICS

>>173812273
That will take fucking long though.

How do I get utopia

about the current galactic civ bundle, is it worth buying? galciv looks fun but the free code is spazzing out on me.

>>173812132
>frontlines in space with ftl

>>173812979
You justify it with supply lines.

>>173812605
Here you are friend, enjoy.
https://www.paradoxplaza.com/stellaris-utopia

>>173811380
As I said you shouldn't be able to do the cosmetic pack even if the host has it.

>>173812341
If it works SP and has the right checksum then you're good.

>>173812979
It's better than this current boring dogshit system we currently have. Instead of just going
>le funneh green arrow xDD
you could give a suggestion on how to fix wars.

>>173813094
So wormhole would be immune to being cut off as long as they are in range to use their ftl?

>>173812979
INTERDICTORS

>>173813314
Pretty much, thats the issue with the 3 FTL techs, with Hyperspace you can easily justify fronts and importance of supply lines while with Warp you can just about justify it, wormhole just makes it obsolete.

what triggered the Unbidden and why did they spawn inside my only ally's space?

>>173812221
They're shield heavy so stick guns on everything. Armor your ships, disruptors will fuck shields too fast, even faster than the lazors will cut through armor.

>>173813452
>what triggered the Unbidden
A forbidden technology.

>>173813452
Jump drives

>>173813452
Using jump drives calls them.

Regarding the shroud
I'm only allowed to establish a covenant with one entity, right?

>>173813245
The primary issues with wars are two fold, one combat is just doomstack against doomstack and two the peace system is garbage.
To fix combat you need to have a reason to split fleets up, the best way I can see to do that would be using something akin to hoi4 where leaders can effectively lead so many ships, which would in turn also reduce the spam torpedo corvettes against large ships.
I would say don't have any leader with no cap, but have the cap scale with their level and your maximum fleet size, with a minimum of 10 ships/level to prevent being crippled in the early game, might need to be higher it would require testing.
To fix the war demands I would say allow dynamic adding of war goals. But make it cost influence to add them after the war goals are initially set.

>>173812221
>have strike craft
oh no
>have missiles
dear god
>disruptors
I'm so sorry.

>>173813829
i think so. hope you plan on winning within 50 years

>>173812979
Create a similar mechanic called "operational theaters", based on how sectors work, by assigning systems to them.

Fleets get assigned to theaters and are individual assigned specific missions, such as "defense", "raid (destroy infrastructure but avoid combat)", and "seek and destroy", "occupy", etc etc.

Combine this with a fleet manager where fleets are automatically reinforced to a set number and distribution of ships, as well as being able to be flat out constructed in one lump group that auto-forms, and you're golden.

>>173814032

we were all new once, anon ;_; I'm currently researching railguns however. I am quite sick of point defense being everywhere so not having to deal with it will be great

>>173813593
>>173813552
>tfw unbidden have spawned the past 5 games i've had

it's ok it isn't like prethoryns exist

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>You have a Chosen One God Emperor/God Empress
>You've already won the game through any of the three victory conditions
>Enter the Shroud, new event pops up
>Possible to sacrifice every single Psionic pop in the galaxy, basically billions if not trillions of people, harvest all their Psychic energy and transfer it to your leader
>Galaxy screen switches to show The Shroud instead
>Pop up explains that millions of years have passed and you have finally woken up as a Shroud God
>New victory conditions explain you must now fight for dominance over the other shroud entities
>Game mechanics and resources are translated to reflect this
>You can switch between the Shroud and Galaxy map, Galaxy map shows a regular new game only with all AI Empires
>Shroud Gods get buffs and bonuses for Psionic Empires/Pops that worship them, form covenants with them and successfully complete tasks/missions for them.
New Game+

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As fanatic purifiers, can I cleanse planets to get my unity, or do I actually have to annex, them, park an army on them, and wait for them to be purged for me to get my free unity?
Doesn't really matter either way, I just don't want to gimp myself and miss out on the free purge points.

Is there anyway to get around the fact that only xenophobic states can do more than just displace aliens? Displacing doesn't cut it when there aren't any other empires large enough to take the refugees.

>>173814282
Generally, if you want a 'Take-All-Comers' ship, mixing plasma and kinetics about 50/50 is the best way to achieve it.

Defences need to be tailored to the enemy a bit more, at least until late game when you can get hull regeneration high enough to essentially make your ships untouchable even without shields.

>>173814246
So you want to take the player out of combat entirely?
I don't like the sound of that, we have enough issues with sector ai being dumb, and looking at front ai in Hoi I would not trust them to do this in a sensible way.

federations are gay
i want to out of this guardian's of the galaxy federation.
all I want to do is attack this guy
but i don't want to get bullied

>>173814336
Multiple Crisis is mandatory at this point
200h and I never seen the AI uprising once

>>173814853
Yes, because the combat in this game is extremely tedious and annoying in a way that no other paradox game is.
The fact that systems are actual, physical areas which you can micro a fleet in is beyond retarded.

>>173814183
I made a covenant with the cycle dude, is that bad?

>>173813883
I think that that might actually alleviate some problems of the current system. Leaders would help with the doomstacks.

>>173814961
are you in actual federation or did you just agree to be his battle thrall (signatory or whatever)

>>173815268
JESUS

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>>173815268
I hope you like The Unbidden on Bath Salts

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>>173815268
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Crisis#The_End_of_the_Cycle
You fucked up in ways you can't even begin to comprehend.

>>173815378
i joined the federation to fight the unbidden, even though I had to do half the work. It's just that he has 300k+ military, and I don't want to make him mad.

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>>173815268
No anon, not bad at all

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so I'm building a ring world and completed the platform station and it said 'our team of hundreds of engineers can begin dismantling the solar system's planets' or some shit
how do

>nobody thinks stellaris porn exists

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>>173815268
No anon, I'm sure nothing can go wrong when you make pacts with psychic space demons.

>>173815232
>which you can micro a fleet in is beyond retarded.
I wish.
They just go full speed towards the enemy till they are beating each other with the ship bows.

>>173816056
Tell me more

>>173815931
How does this even work

This game tries to do way too much. There are like 20 types of weapon alone jfc.

>>173816576
then try rts games wich are easier

>>173816491
strong enough framework/armor > force applied to bow of ship = not comically blown up

>>173816576
Yeah I fucking hate when a game tries to have depth

>>173816491
One ship is disabled, so it's not resisting the directional thrust from the ramming vessel spinning it off-axis, the other SD thinks the other one is maneuvering until it's too late.

>>173816428
Ask again in 1 hour

>>173816491
>Ship can push a 20 times bigger ship at a fast speed
>Not only that, but has enough force to throw everybody in the bigger ship to the floor
>And to crash it to the other big ship to cause massive damage
>Also you can see the actual bridge when is crashing against the big ship
Magical Plot Powers.

>>173816634
>>173816673
Im not hating on it. I just think they threw literally every sci-fi concept into the game but dont really go into depth with a lot of them.

Take clones for example, they can do so much more with the concept, but right now they're just for army.

Should I build two Ringworlds at once? I just realized how long it takes to build and I get minerals much faster than it takes to build.

>tfw you finally pinpoint the mod that's been causing that really annoying bug

such fucking relief

>>173817054
Same with xenomorph armies. When I read about it in the wiki, I was hyped. But then I found out it was just your regular army with better numbers.

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this hive mind has an interesting shape

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Rate my space snails /civ4xg/

>>173815565
>>173815727
That's actually kinda cool
I wish all end-game crisis were that challenging/interesting

Is Rimworld /civ4xg/ or /indie/?
Because I kinda need help about basic stuff.

>>173817271
No ya don't, mate

>>173817293
/v/ loves it if you don't get answers here

>>173817217
oven tier

>>173814587

should be das reich

>>173817145
You can only work on one at a time, so that won't help you. You probably want to spam Habitations in all your colonized systems to help with the excess minerals thing.

>>173816964
>Magical Plot Powers.

Or you know, inertia and delta-v in a micro-gravity vacuum.

>>173817371
/v/?
Loving something?
Ya be pulling me leg matey?

>>173817504
Ofug; do you think it's worthwhile to get the 33% build speed ascension perk?
Would have to wait 50 years to get Dyson spheres with my unity.

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>>173815268
>Finally, an immensely powerful Shroud entity known as "The Reckoning" - representing the combined essence of all deceased psionic individuals in the former empire that summoned it - will appear over the empire's former homeworld, and proceed to seek out the remaining life in the galaxy. All pops consumed will increase the power. Up to 800 pops. It's power will increase proportionally in term of hull, shield and fire rate. But exponentially in term of damage.
Hahahaha oh wow. You fucking lost so badly you'll make EVERYONE ELSE lose too. There's gotta be an achievement for fucking up this badly.

ok so I'm getting the hang of playing stellaris with the new features, and now that I've outpaced the civs around me I'm pretty sure I can dominate my immediate surroundings. so if I conquer them and subjugate them that will fuck up my unity requirements right? or would a slave species not affect that.

>>173816964
>two destroyers have a head on collision in ESB
>no major damage
>tiny piece of shit rams destroyer in rouge one
>look at our physics plugin guys

>>173817508
Dude, the Hammerhead are literally ancient, and the Star Destroyers are the strongest ships during the Empire era.
Crash into a tank with a car and tell me who gets fucked.

>>173815931
>disney in charge of physics
The difference is mass alone would've crushed the smaller ship like a can of soda.

>>173817964
>>>173817508 #
>Dude, the Hammerhead are literally ancient, and the Star Destroyers are the strongest ships during the Empire era.
>Crash into a tank with a car and tell me who gets fucked.

Dude, moons are literally ancient, and the Star Destroyers are the strongest ships during the Empire era.
Crash into a mountain with a car and tell me who gets fucked.

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>>173818198
Dude, hammers are literally ancient, and my dick is the hardest thing during my daily fapping session.
Crush my dick with a hammer and tell me who get fuckede.

>>173818198
the hammerhead was built for hammering tho

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>>173818225
>hive mind

2/10

>>173818225
5/10
why extremely adaptive?

>>173817964
The Star Destroyer just lost all power and drive. Did you even watch the movie? It's dead in space, they've rammed a free-floating object and are accelerating.

Of course it'll move, particularly since they're just spinning it on it's axis mainly, not massively altering it's direction of travel or velocity.

>Crash into a tank with a car

Again, this is in a microgravity environment. A fucking handfan could move a tank in that environment, given enough time and the battery power.

This is why shit like ion engines work and can accelerate probes up to km/s speeds, despite producing miniscule amounts of thrust.

Learn basic physics, this is high school shit.

>>173818404
i can colonise all planets

>want to make a slaver empire that enslaves xenos
>can't be authoritarian because authoritarian factions get mad if you don't enslave your own race
>can't be xenophobe because xenophobe factions get mad if you have any xenos in your empire at all, even if they're slaves
Why'd they have to remove the ability to enslave pops individually? Slavery is impossible to use now.

>>173818403
banks poorfagget detected

>>173818530
You realize hiveminds don't have happiness to manage for pops right? Habitability is meaningless.

>>173811662
You can only block other people with Hyperlanes, wormholes and warp powers can still go where they please.

>>173814587
Clensing gives you nothing. Having said that I think the mechanic is broken because I get zero unity from purging as a FP...

>>173818754
He said hyperlane only, dude. Which allows you to set up chokepoints on the map.

>>173811662
Wormhole is slow and unwieldy if you're not used to it. I like using it though because it allows me to jump over enemy territory once I get the upgrades for it.

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>>173817508
>Or you know, shit that doesn't even exist in Star Wars.
Plot powers is a better explanation.

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>Corvettes are meta, guys
>Missles are fine now, PD wont counter it as hard now t.paracocks
>18k fleet vs a 25k fleet is totally gonna be a battle and not an execution, guys

Also i got a grand total of 4 warscore for that

>>173817697
this endgame sounds totally ridiculous, but fun if you can actually win it

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>>173810162
Dang son

>>173818739

a planet need 40% habitability to colonise

>>173818505
>this is how mass works.

>>173819173
I'm not sure what you were expecting. You heavily outgunned that guy and won easily and got barely any reward for it? No shit?

>>173810162
The flesh is lewd

>>173819256
But can you? From what I read, you basically only control a colony ship, everyone else in the universe hates you, and you soon get some avenger coming after EVERYONE.

>>173818846
Well "dude" clearly I didn't read his post now did I?

>>173818983
Wormhole is the most superior one because it's the one which enables you to move quickly without being boxed in. Warp and hyperlane suck hard.

>>173819394
That was the largest fleet in their entire alliance and i completely smashed it, that should be worth like 20 warscore

>>173818505
This is collision, you have to take the masses into consideration. The frame of the smaller ship would give out way before it could move the star destroyer.

>>173819513
I hate this. When you destroy an enemy's whole army but it's worth nearly no war score because it was really small compared to your army. That's dumb. You still ruined their army.

>>173818404
>>173818739
>not doing it just for flavor reasons, not to mention the fact that you need a certain habitability to colonize in the first place

>>173819464

I considered keeping habitable planets inside my territory via frontier outpost , terraform if needed the idea is keeping at least 5 planets within 3 FO

Build more colony ships from the one colony you get and rebuild from there , trading energy for minerals with the trader enclave since all empires will hate you and refuse to trade

>>173819612
>destroy their fleet
>occupy their capital world and the warscore target
>you still don't have quite enough warscore so they refuse to cede you the one fucking planet despite them having no ability to actually win the war
>have to keep occupying more planets until they finally surrender

This is my favorite part of warfare in Stellaris.

>>173819513
Well it's no secret that warscore is totally fucked. It makes no sense how it's calculated. I mean if you're a tiny empire that controls only a handful of colonies and your main fleet is completely obliterated and then your homeworld comes under siege from a fleet you can't possibly defeat, and your remaining stations are being destroyed by raiding parties, you'd think that would be enough for unconditional surrender. But in Stellaris that's really just the start of the grueling war process that involves invading and then occupying as many worlds as you can in order to force them to capitulate.

>>173819002
konstantos sucks chechen dick

>>173819002
Huh, didn't know HRS had been updated.

>>173819872
*in Paradox games
I'm glad at least in Stellaris the AI doesn't send unreasonable demands like in EU3. Where you could get a warscore of 50+ and the AI would still ask you for all your gold and that you release this or that vassal and stuff.

>>173818225
I didn't know you could play as Turkey in Stellaris

How come there isn't a random option for galaxy shape? I never know which one I like best.

>>173819872
It's how Paradox artificially increases the difficulty of the game. Because actually making the AI not suck dick at the game is too much work. So instead they just make playing the game a huge pain in the ass. You'd think since war is a huge dominant feature they'd put more work into making it fun, but I find myself avoiding war as much as possible because of how tedious it is.

So all whole bunch of in game graphics are low res after the update, is there a fix?

>>173819992
>chechens

They were wiped out in 2134 by the New Cossack Hetmanate.

>>173819572
>the small ship would give out

That depends how strong the ship's superstructure is relative to the force they're exerting from their engines. Provided they don't exceed the strength of their own superstructure, they'd be fine and could still move the SD.

The Star Destroyer has nothing to do with it.

>>173820124
I dread playing my current save because a neighbouring empire broke our NAP, I feel like it's going to attack me as soon as the truce period ends.

>>173818505
>they're just spinning it on it's axis mainly
No, watch the full scene again, the corvette is pushing the whole thing towards the other Stardestroyer.
Not to mention you are ignoring a 100m long ship rams at full speed against a 1,6km long one and suffers no damage, it even penetrates the hull of the Stardestroyer.

>>173819002
What ship mod is that?

>>173819464
i dunno if you can, but it *seems* possible

>>173820252
They couldn't move the SD anyway, it has fancy anti gravity space magic.

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Fuggen jackpot

>>173820392
"We are the Imperial Navy" or something along those lines

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>>173810162
Would gib rights to any day of the week.

How annoying is the democratic crusader personality?

>>173820619
Imagine your average American.
Then don't change a thing.

>>173820252
No they could not, the mass of the SD is still too great unless that thing has some serious engines. Hence why space ships still require huge thrusters to move in space. If it worked the way you are suggesting a space ship could run on a 12volt battery for propulsion because any thrust is enough in micro gravity.

>>173820684
Most democratic crusaders ive met didnt have the repugnant or the slow learner trait desu

>decide to build tall, like some anons theorise
>pick a couple big planets
>build a good number of research stations
>discovering the mysteries of the universe at dangerous speeds
>dwarf all over empires, technologically
>surpass all my other games, easily, hitting their research level ~100 years earlier
Goddamn genius, this.

Going synthetic may have factored in, though.

>>173820328
>Suffers no damage

It clearly crumples. They're just making contact anyway, they don't bump the SD into the other one, they contact it and start applying thrust, essentially turning themselves into a maneuvering thruster.

>>173820497
Which was shut off, because the entire ship had lost power.

>>173821068
why would it lose power? it doesn't even touch the reactor

>>173820241
konstantos' nightly activities suggest otherwise

>>173820772
>unless that thing has some serious engines.

We know they do, Star Wars ships maneuver at ridiculous speeds.

How long does it takes for the AI to become psions/cyborgs/mutants?

>>173821194
there's still no reason to think it would do much of any damage

humans understand physics intuitively, if it looks wrong it's wrong

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>>173821068
>they don't bump the SD into the other one

>>173819002
>Not using warp travel

Shit Imperium, bro.

does anyone play civ anymore or is it all space shit?

if i used to play paradox games but fried my brain with drugs and now i cant handle anything more complex than civ vi will the space shit be fun?

>>173821216
I had already used up 7/8 ascension perks before a I got any notice of nearby empires taking any ascension paths.

>>173821449
Stellaris is babby mode, if you can play Civ you can play Stellaris.

>>173821046
but at the end you still get buttfucked becouse you dont have enough recources and space for ships.

>>173821127
It lost power before they rammed it.

>>173820619
>>173820974
Euroshits get out

>>173811182
Corey?

>>173821449
>fried brain with drugs

It shows.

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>>173821127
>>173821883
>Lost power
>Artificial Gravity is still funtioning

>>173821305
>humans understand physics intuitively

That's just plain wrong. Humans have zero 'intuitive' frame of reference for zero g physics.

>>173821308

Yes, you'll notice they're still in contact with the SD, with their engines firing. They're actively maneuvering it into the other SD, they didn't just bump it into the other one with their initial impact.

>>173821840
T R I B U T A R I E S

>>173816857
Ok

>>173821438
Wormhole travel is closer to the WH40K Warp

>>173822010
Yeah, confusing, because there'd be no reason to put life support on a seperate circuit from maneuvering thrusters...just stick em all on the same system so if one goes down, they all go down.

so I saw some people talk about building "tall not wide" with their stellaris empire, but how does that work when you actually try to go to war with others. I mean you have to spread at some point, are you just purging everything or what?

>>173822274
Tributaries and vassals, m8. Conquer someone and force them to pay you money and minerals in exchange for protection.

>>173822274

Vassals , i'm staying at 5 planets and maxing traditions and tech before expanding

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I made these ones in the previous build attempting to match the AI personalities. However, I think they need some rework and more meat to them. Any advice?

>>173821840
Take the naval capacity ascension perk and subjugate other empires to get them tributes and vassal/protectorate capacity bonuses.

>>173822032
literally the first thing you ever learn about physics is rolling balls across a floor which is not much different

>>173821840
I dunno, man. That massive headstart meant I can expand my empire with ease. I have the means to overcome the increased research cost and all of my buildings are more efficient, because of that research.

>>173821840
Ascension perks and traditions nigga, they make tall possible now.
>that ascension perk that gives you +200 naval capacity
>megastructures allow you to build Dyson Sphere for shitloads of energy to support your fleet
>Domination tradition lets you get rich off of tributaries and boost your fleet capacity from vassals

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Should I subject the weak space elves to full slavery for complete and utter misery ìn the mines or domestic servitude so they can serve their very strong lizard masters more directly?

Tile blocker cleared.

I have the phenotype plant problem, does it only affect the pops on that particular planet or the whole race? How do I get rid of it ASAP?

>>173822163
What about the shields anon? SW ships have those, right?

>>173822360
>>173822359
ok so vassals dont affect your unity? what about enslaving them and keeping them as a managed species or whatever. I've got factions that want slaves.

>>173822543
To support what fleet?
You need minerals to build fleets, which are usually acquired from planets you don't have because you're not spreading.

>playing Imperium of Man
>can't purge xenos

It seems I've made a mistake

>>173822563
Domestic servitude means lewd.

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>>173822080

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>>173822857
Nice

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>>173822857

>>173822857
PURGE

PUUUURRRRGGGEEE

>>173822563
>serve their very strong lizard masters more directly?

What did he mean by this?

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>>173822857

>>173822797
>You need minerals to build fleets, which are usually acquired from planets
You don't really need many planets. With like 4 or 5 planets plus the surrounding systems I grab with outposts I can easily get like 200 minerals a month. Advanced mineral extraction tech makes it absurdly easy to stockpile minerals.

>>173822032
https://youtu.be/BZMepnUqpo8?t=1m11s
So, let me get this.
The Small ship has enough trust power to turn the Giant ship into a giant sword that cuts the Second Giant Ship, and the Small ship suffers supperficial damage, despiste its trusth being that massive?
How the fuck doesn't become a pancake without magic armor?

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>2200 ad
>fapping to xenos

>tfw want to pick authority and spiritualism for imperial cult
>but also want to pick militarism and xenophobic for purging and full bombardment

What the fuck do I do?

>>173822857

Why would a reptile or snail have breasts?

>>173822775
They have deflectors not shields.

>>173823232
Why do you even need Authority for Imperial Cult when Imperial Goverment doesn't need it?

>>173823232
I know the feeling.
I settled on F. Spiritualist / Authoritarian for the Imperial Cult

>>173823232
There's no reason to take authoritarian when spiritualist and xenophobe cover all the bases.

>>173823232
full bombardment is lackluster trash. Just drop militarist.

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>>173823202
>2200 ad
>not being Fanatic Xenophile

>>173823352
you need both do unlock imperial cult

>>173823367
but i need to purge

>>173823395
but i need to RP as the god-emperor

>>173823404
i'll probably do this

>>173823309
>deflectors
Deflector shields
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Deflector_shield

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>>173823232
>>173823367
>not going fanatic spiritualist + egalitarian

>>173822821
>playing Imperium of Man
purge yourself

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Does it work?

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>>173823615
Ah, my greatest victory to date.
What can't I do?

>>173823643
well it's the imperium with a twist

see >>173819002

>>173823623
>wiki that takes stats directly from the non-canonical roleplaying game

>>173823615
>you need both do unlock imperial cult
Yes, i am asking the logic behind it.

>>173823838
oh right, i guess it makes sense to have spiritualist due to the whole "state religion" thing

>>173823714
>not interdimensional/10

>>173822673
war lost

>>173823307
Humans genemodded them in.

>>173823838
>>173823954

Scratch that, you were asking about authoritarian. You're right, it makes no fucking sense.

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>>173823307
Don't worry, I found one without any.

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What kind of Fanatic Purifiers are the scariest?

>>173823143
That small ship is using it's engines, to quote the captain, at 'full sublight', which given how fast SW ships move, are pretty fucking powerful. They've basically turned their ship into a maneuvering thruster, and scaled, they're a big maneuvering thruster.

All they're doing is spinning the nose of the ship into it's sister and pushing it slightly downwards i.e. the direction the planet's gravity is going to be pulling the powerless ship anyway.

The small ship is imparting energy into the large ship, when it hits, the inertia of the SD coupled with the velocity it's built up relative to the ship it's hitting does all the damage, the thrust of the rebel ship is irrelevent.

For example, in zero g, a man could push a 50 ton truck across a room if he had magnetic boots or a jet pack, whatever, and if he had the energy to keep pushing for a while, and it was a big room, he could get it fast enough to get the truck moving up to whatever speed he could run/fly at.

If the floating truck then hit a wall, he'd suddenly run into it as it decelerated, but only at the speed he was running at, so he'd get a broken nose at worse. The wall the truck hit however, would be obliterated, because of the inertia of the truck's mass, coupled with all the energy the man has imparted over the last half and hour he'd been pushing on it.

Seriously, open a fucking book.

>http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-1/Inertia-and-Mass

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>>173824305
>xeno mating noises
just end me

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>>173824348

>>173822703
The Pheremone one? It only affects that planet, you can either pay a lump sum of energy credits at the start to get rid of it, let it continually worsen until you choose to start fighting its effects and eventually remove it for free or let it stay there. it only affects the planet.

>tfw democratic
>tfw mandate fulfilled
>tfw no influence
>tfw leader dies

the greatest feel

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>>173824305
>>173822857
>>173823056
Got any space elves?

>>173824305
this is how cute fluffy foxes and butterflies and snails become fanatic purifiers

doesn't even require a specific government authority

>>173824617
stellaris space elves are the most generic shit imaginable

are you seriously asking if there exists porn of elves with silver or pink hair

Are there Helghast portraits anywhere? Additionally, a mod that limits aliens to mammalians would be cool.

>>173824683
I mean as in "domestic servants" in Stellaris' setting.

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What if your allie is just a hivemind pretending to be a democratic empire?

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>>173824617

>>173811562
don't use minefield, it does pisspoor damage
get the shield dampner and incapacitator instead
lategame -25% shield health and -15% attack speed are a hell of a lot more relevant than 5 damage a month

What are all the rewards for going in the Shroud?

>>173824903
Ew, why not use the vanilla space elves

>>173824892
>is there art of slave elves in sci-fi settings
Do you really need to ask this question

>>173825015
I know there is I was just asking had he drawn any himself.

Humanoids are pretty boring. Not to much to chose from.

>>173824998
No lewd options.

>>173818505
>A fucking handfan could move a tank in that environment, given enough time and the battery power.
The SD went from static to ramming the other SD in the span of 20 seconds

I think I need more than one Dyson Sphere to cover the energy-necessities of my empire.

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>can't download a mod since it hasn't been mirrored outside the steam workshop yet

h-help me steamfags

>>173825220
Build fucking power plants you stooge.

>>173823714
Are you going for the Half Life series Combine?
If so they aren't xenophobic, just have no problems enslaving and exterminating alien species for profit.

>>173824903
mod?

>just found asteroid called LV-426

There had better be big black ayys or I'm suing Paradox.

>>173825220
build power habitats
a single habitat can easily get you 150+ energy

>>173815268
Can AI empire trigger this btw?

>>173825339
>Are you going for the Half Life series Combine?
>If so they aren't xenophobic, just have no problems enslaving and exterminating alien species for profit.

I know, but I cant have battle thralls and livestock without being xenophobic for some reason.

>>173811183
You're thinking of Materialist.

is it me or does turning your species into robots actually make your empire weaker?

>>173825178
>20 seconds

They cut away to watch Stronk Womyn climb a fucking tower and realign a comms dish before the impact is shown. Have you even watched this or are you just repeating le epic maymays you've seen on reddit?

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Oh fug

>>173824370
>If the floating truck then hit a wall, he'd suddenly run into it as it decelerated, but only at the speed he was running at, so he'd get a broken nose at worse. The wall the truck hit however, would be obliterated
So thats why the Moon crashed onto the Earth instead of being covered in craters due to small objects at high speed crashing into it, right?.

>>173825356
Elves of Stellaris. There's a Drow version too if you like the dark meat.

>>173812273
>Politics
Fucking where. Show me one instance of actual politics in Stellaris.

>>173822673
Tile blockers are really one of the really bad mechanics. I get they want to impart the feeling that you're civilizing wild planets but that's what terraforming is for. Different blockers should just be standard tiles but with unique bonuses.

>>173825713
Some of those faces are mildly disturbing

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>>173825486
>for some reason.
I can only assume is a reference to SC2.
Otherwise i don't see how a Xenophobic Empire will be fine and dandy with having xeno armies.

>>173825671
>tfw it's fucking nothing

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What are your essential mods for 1.5 so far?

>>173825741
Yeah, I really don't like them. What's worse is finding a nice planet early on but it's like 99% tile blockers and the only tile you can settle on isn't adjacent to anything.

Would prefer if all blockers were clearable from the start, with very expensive costs and very long times to do so.

With Utopia, I always pick the Master of Nature thing as my first ascendancy point. Makes them free to clear and removes the tech requirement. Makes the mechanic much more bearable.

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>>173825313

Planets exist to be mined. So many barren, useless planets. I wish there were planet-crackers. My Empire needs more resources.

>>173824903
Fuck that skyrim generic trash robe.

>>173825580
He's probably one of the /tv/tards who thought a fucking jeep commercial was actually episode 7.

>>173825826
There's 'Real Humanoid Slaves' if you just want nude slaves for the regular humanoid/spehs elf races.

>>173825741
>I get they want to impart the feeling that you're civilizing wild planets
>Free to clear all of them with a single ascension choice

>>173825721
The factions.

>>173825963
to be fair that does come at the cost of things like +25% border span and +10% research speed

>>173815193
Yeah, I feel like you're the one who is supposed to instigate it. But that requires you getting mechanoids and not being Materialist, a combination that is really weak desu

>>173825692
Are you intentionally being retarded now?

>>173825580
Cant really be that long because they were getting raped in the sky and the tiny ship pushing the big ship was kind of the "life saver" of the scene

>>173825923
I dont even know what the fuck you are talking about, please keep the sperging out to a bare minimum

Neat, you don't need to be working the Cloning Vats to make clone soldiers.

>>173824370
You still didn't answer how the small ship super powerful engines don't crush the ship itself against the giant ship.
Also, they are pushing the ship "horizontal" to the planet.

>>173826140
>C..can't be that long

Just give it up, be a man for once, admit you were talking out of your ass.

>>173825963
That's also one of the stupid things.
Draining a swamp is something on an entirely different level than removing a mountain or altering mantle convection to stop a volcano.

If tile blockers were just things like sinkholes and swamps, yeah they'd be fine. But mountains and volcanoes are stupid.

How crippling is to pick wasteful trait?

>Pop Consumer Goods Cost: +20%

>playing multiplayer game
>got boxed in by AI and one other player
>fucked up my unity spending
>wanted to go wide but didn't realize that wouldn't happen until it was too late

Welp I fucked up. How do I roll hard into playing Tall when I started everything up as playing wide? How the fuck do you even play wide? I have 3 colonies and it doesn't look like I'll be getting many more for a while

>>173825741
>>173825889
Speaking of things we're bitching about

>can't terraform worlds you've colonized
>can't build ringworlds in systems with inhabited worlds

The building system also feels rather shallow to me; I remember one of the best things in Galciv2/3 being how building large clusters of buildings would give bonuses. Building factories next to factories would give you more production for example.

As it is right now, Stellaris is just "put the right building on the right tile and be done with it".
I feel like it would be more interesting to reduce the amount of specific tile resources planets get (in favor of fewer but more powerful ones), while giving bonuses for intelligently constructing or specializing worlds.

>>173825847
this game has mods?

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>mfw the leader of the xenohugger faction is the emperor.
>mfw so was his dad
>mfw they keep boosting their numbers
I dont like this.

>>173826405
it doesnt matter at all, its fucking nothing. Its like 5 minerals per month if you have like 50 pops .

>>173826405
You get a few less minerals. You basically dont notice it once you get a few good mines under your belt

How do I change my heir?

>>173826405

It scales with living standards.

+20% happiness = 2 minerals per pop
+10% happiness = 1.5 minerals per pop
+0% happiness = 1 minerals per pop
-10% happiness = 0.75 minerals per pop
-20% happiness = 0.5 minerals per pop

>>173826363
>Let me claim I won the argument in a dismissive manner, without refuting the main point of course
Probably the funniest meme of the 21th century

Why does the Ringworld consume all the planets in the system while the Dyson Sphere does not? You would think making a Dyson Sphere would be far more resource-intensive.

>>173826405
depends entirely on how far you're willing to propagate your species
if you use your species only its fairly crippling
if instead you combo it with decadent for a slaver overlord its fine

>>173826540
Long live the king
:^)

>>173826312
>the small ship super powerful engines don't crush the ship itself

Because their superstructure is robust enough to cope with the thrust of their own engines? Same way the engines of a F18 don't launch themselves into the back of the pilot's fucking head the moment he hits the trap on an aircraft carrier and decelerates.

Think before you speak.

The neighboring SD is also slightly below the one being pushed. See; >>173821308

>>173826405
Nice for egalitarian
Garbage for slavers

>>173826657
what does this mean you vague cunt, i need clear answers

>>173826592
the ringworld is made at a reasonable distance and is fairly solid
dyson sphere is right up the star's atmosphere and as thin as it can be

also in terms of gameplay balance a ringworld is drastically superior to a sphere

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dawww, my cute weeaboo mushrooms launched their first satellite

>>173826565
Not quite. Replace minerals with consumer goods and you got it. 1 goods = 0.5 minerals.

>>173826759
Did you never see the lion king?

>>173826584
Don't be butthurt about it, I refuted the point in the previous post, why would I need to repeat it just because you're searching for a goalpost to shift. Go time the fucking gap between them engaging their engines and point of impact if you want to argue the toss, but I guarantee you it isn't the 20 seconds you claimed it was.

>>173815931
>star destroyer's hull crumples
>rebel ship doesn't
jesus christ did they give the contract for that ship to the space jews

>>173826759
You cant change it, long may he reign.
:^)

>>173826934
Right, so how do I kill my heir?

>>173826412
>Speaking of things we're bitching about

>can't terraform worlds you've colonized
>can't build ringworlds in systems with inhabited worlds
I'm ready to purge all the humans on Earth so I can turn it into a Gaia world.
Also, I know building a Ringworld, Dyson sphere, and a dozen habitats would be op, but fuck you I want to pimp out my home system.

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>>173815931

So, why are two km-wide space battleships so close to each? There's plenty of space around.

>Star Wars

Ah, yes. I forgot that Star Wars works by Age of Sail rules mixed with WW2 fighters.

>>173826970
>he

It's a she, I want a god-emperor not a god-empress. My species is enduring and add to that the fact the fact that she's got the damn resilient trait, I'm never getting rid of her am I?

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Matriarchal trait when?

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>>173827202
>I want a god-emperor not a god-empress

shit taste desu

>>173826704
why do two destroyers colliding in ESB do no major damage but in rouge one apparently they get cut in half and explode?

>playing hivemind species
>first empire I meet is using exactly the same species portrait

well fuck, how do I explain that one

>>173827434
I... I guess I could get used to it.

>>173827402
Never. Matriarchal societies never progress past the pastoralist stage.

>>173826937
>I refuted the point in the previous post
No you just double-upped on your retardation by speculating that the EMP-bomb lasted much longer than it appear, thus letting the tiny ship build up speed for ages without any hull damage before pushing it into another SD (And then surprise, massive hull damage)

It's a nice spectacle, but not a very good scene

>>173826946
I suppose you don't understand how tugboats work either

>>173826946
why would it crumple when it's designed to penetrate?

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>>173827202
the most important part of being the empress of a thousand worlds is looking pretty

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>>173827434
meh, the only good god emperors are worm-emperors anyways

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REEEEEEEEEE

>>173826540

Murder your kids.

>>173827471
Because they saw this shit happen in Rogue One and had reinforced their papier maché ships by the time of ESB to avoid it happening again?

>>173827563
>it's a nice spectacle but not a very good scene
Well duh, it is star wars after all.

>>173827698
>24 ships
>665K fleet power

What the everlasting fuck?

>>173827563
>speculating that the EMP-bomb lasted much longer than it appear

They still have no power when they impact. Nice try, just outed yourself as not having watched the movie though.

Go watch it rather than just relying on other anon's webms to craft you meme 'argument'.

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WE DINDU NUFFIN

>>173827698
The hell did you do to piss them off so much?

>>173827648
In my empire the god empress is chosen from divine looking boys.
Yes the god empress is a god tier trap groomed to be the perfect trap.

>>173827895
Looks like he's using that mod where you play as an FE during their zenith.
You can make Gargantuan class ships which are meant to be doomsday weapons. Looks like they have one each.

*Snore , i wish i had taken that -growth time edict from ascension slots

>>173827912
Weebs btfo by based Xenos

When your whole race goes synth, how are new people born? Where do fresh human consciousnesses come from?

Any minds that get lost from server crashes, or suicide, would be an ex-human gone forever.

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>>173827940
I wouldn't destroy the colony on my starting planet.

>>173827973

Diabolical and tasty