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Welcome to Sonic The Hedgehog General. Here we discuss Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including cartoons and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more!

/sthg/ #729 - I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE LEAKS! Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
Sonic Project 2017 is now Sonic Forces
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/03/16/sxsw-sonic-2017-project-sonic-2017-is-officially-called-sonic-forces/

Sonic Mania Delayed to Summer 2017
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/03/16/sonic-sxsw-2017-sonic-mania-delayed-to-summer-2017/

Flying Battery Zone Shown for Mania
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/03/16/sxsw-sonic-2017-flying-battery-zone-revealed-in-sonic-mania/

Archie Comics in Jeopardy
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/03/28/archie-sonic-update-sega-archie-are-talking-comics-getting-resolicited-cancelled-listings/

Sonic Forces Gameplay
https://youtu.be/_Zm0FvEn5CU

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2

Sonic Runners Adventure Rumor!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMVWVJhSnGo

>New Info Leaks on Sonic Forces and Mania
https://twitter.com/BlueParax/status/852177946773270530
http://image.prntscr.com/image/aa29d823773843df8b8dc0aa2c626b08.jpeg

Apparently, Sonic Mania looks like it will have at least 23 stages.

Previous Thread: >>173670872
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SLOW
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Can I get an amen from my fellow /christian/ Sonic fans?
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>>173797961
I think we need to clean up the OP a bit.
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How do we help Sonic learn how to swim?
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>>173798171
Push him in and leave him until he swims.
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>tfw 23 Zones is too long but 23 Acts is two short
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>>173787957
Oops forgot to mention this in the OP, oh well.
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>>173797961
>>173797270
>>>173797270

mention forces of good and evil - playing as a villain - eggman is the main villain. wouldn't be surprised.

nega eggman or chaos 0 would be unexpected.


>>173798276
nearly the same length as 3 and K, I'm happy with that.
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>You'll never play as Eggman in his Mech again
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>>173798384
>nega eggman or chaos 0 would be unexpected.
lol you have no idea
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>>173798276
If we count boss fights, Generations has more acts.
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>>173798153
I think we could remove >Sonic Project 2017 is now Sonic Forces

Everything else still seems relevant.
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>>173798153
>Been in this general since early March and only made 5 threads as of late.
Sorry, anon, just though more news on the thread would be acceptable since there wasn't any for a while.
Just got caught up in the hype and made an edited op picture adding even more news.

If you got any suggestions on what we can remove from the OP, spill 'em.
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>>173798054
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>>173798671
>>173798683
I just meant more of the format. Like the Sonic Boom and Bump links are in between news stuff.
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>>173798575
>they said it was going to be longer than Generations
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>>173798758
Wouldn't it make more sense for Big to be CIA because of the belt? Or is it because he's a big guy?
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>>173798794
We can't get too risky anon. If it's a decently long game, things could go to shit
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>>173798758
Oh that's great.
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>Morio Kishimoto is the director of Sonic Forces. He designed Secret Rings, Black Knight, and Sonic Colors. He also directed Sonic Lost World.
Ehhhhhhh
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>>173798970
But this is being made by actually competent people, not Sonic Team.
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how many different sonics are there, /sthg/?
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>>173798792
Oops, I'm sorry. I was really nervous so I didn't wanna change anything under the edition for the few threads I've made. Thanks!
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>>173799074
Too many!
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I have the new Project X:Love Potion Disaster version 6.8 Alpha
Who wants it?
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>>173799065
Still can't take that risk
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>>173799221
>>>/trash/
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>>173798564
so Eggman wouldn't be expected?
or do you know something I don't?
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Actually, the kanji next to 23 means "years". Because it's been 23 years since the last Classic game (Sonic 3 & Knuckles). No, Sonic 4 does NOT count. So we still don't know how many Zones OR Acts are in the game.
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>>173798384
The main villain is obviously Nega. No way, after dumbing down Eggman for YEARS, will he suddenly be this competent
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>>173799074
>no american sonic
that's WAYYY past uncool dude.
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>>173798758
>Gotcha! My darling Sonic!

I still question why that escalated into a fight. Then again, the same could be said about Silver in Rivals, he picked a fight with everybody he met. Do you know how hot headed you have to be for Knuckles of all people to tell you to calm down?
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>>173799426
Hopefully that's what it is.
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>>173799551
His boss fight reason in Generations is weird too.
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>>173799569
That IS what it is. They're not going to put the Act/Zone count in a tiny bubble next to an interview.
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Archie going out of business soon
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>>173799431
Not him, but I doubt it's Nega either. Because one, we haven't seen him since, IIRC, Rivals. And two, he would probably still put his face on the robots.

I'm guessing it's either someone entirely new, or its Metal Sonic.
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>>173799698
Didn't Riverdale get renewed, though?
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"Its not an ACT when your in the Zone."

What other cringe stuff you think Sonic would say in the future?
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>>173799698
>Archie going out of business soon
Nah. Riverdale just got renewed for a second season.
What's happening is they're shifting their focus away from gaming and towards television. The Sonic comic might be the collateral damage in this shift.
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>>173799431
and the third style might be Eggman working with Sonic to fight his counterpart.

I'll bo ok with that although I find it hard to believe they would bring nega back as a main villain.
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>>173799740
Since we haven't seen him in a while, he'd be unexpected. The robots look more like something he'd build than normal Eggy, and Nega's the only Eggman that could get away with conquering the fucking planet

But like you said, it could be Metal as well. Again, more competent than Eggman, so it makes sense
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>>173799870
I'm sticking with my guns in saying Riverdale has little to do with the Sonic comic situation.
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>>173799698
There's hope IDW will take it.
But it's also possible that they won't. Then worst case scenario:
Fans continue the comic online. It will have all the Sonic fanartists you have never heard of, don't give a shit abbout and those that shouldn't get a platform to spread their cancer.
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>>173799221
I'll take it
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>>173799890
no blaze = no nega
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Talk about low budget threads! No food or movies? I'm outta here. I like /r/ better.
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>>173799902
I doubt they'd bring back Nega and not have Blaze playable too. I think Metal is more likely, especially since he tried something similar in Heroes, and people have been making comparisons of Forces to Heroes lately.
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>>173799680
>How do I know you're the real sonic?!
Silver is a hot headed dork, at least he mellowed out by colors, then again maybe he didn't have a chance to get started since Blaze nearly fried Orbot and Cubot's circuits offs even through she was holding back
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>>173800016
not that I'm trying to convince anyone it's Nega but we haven't had a clear cast of full characters yet. Blaze could be in it.
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>>173799862
Oh man, I hope they never go super meta with the series.
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>>173800016
Wrong
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>>173800183
Sonic's favorite board would be /trv/
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>>173798758
If you look closely, you can almost see Amy's socks

>>173799074
Where's the 2003 model supposed to be from?
I like it.
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>>173800448
Heroes.
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>>173800528
>not a shinny renderware monstrosity
Something's wrong though, it's too high-quality.
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What's the rarest Sonic game you own?

I have Sonic Rivals 1 and 2 on the psp and Sonic Battle on the GBA
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So is Runners Adventure real or proven fake?
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what the fuck is so great about Hesse's style in Mega Drive and how do I make my art look that appealing?
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>>173800705
I guess Sonic Adventure 2 on Dreamcast.
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>>173800730
Wacky Face™
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>>173800730
Its simplistic
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>>173800730
It's not that good. He just puts a bunch of wacky faces on the characters and everyone shits themselves
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>>173800713

Seems to be real based on how Gameloft are "not" talking about it.
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>>173800705
Sonic on gamegear.

Pro: Runs like a champ, even after 20ish years
Con: Eats batteries.
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>>173800705
Sonic Pocket Adventure for the NeoGeo
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>>173800730
It's not even his style. He just copied the old japanese Sega Sonic and Toei Sonic then added some funneh faecezz.
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>>173800730
You make everything round and pudgy and adorable and pick the perfect moments to give them a silly face. It's simple but he has it down to a science at this point, unlike other artists that try too hard to be wacky and fail more often than not.
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Well, fuck my Eggman! TKA is back!
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>>173801102
>he makes characters on model and interesting with plenty of character that keeps with the tone of the franchise
>this is bad somehow
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>>173795189
>discuss the comics
>WAAAA STOP TALKING ABOUT DEAD OCS
>discuss the games
>WAAAA NO ONE CARES ABOUT SHITTY GAMES
>discuss fanmade work
>WAAAA GET THIS OFF TOPIC CRAP OUT
>discuss new info
>WAAAA ENOUGH CIRCLEJERKING ABOUT BORING NEWS
This must be the most unpleasable general on /vg/, I swear
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>>173799221
Link it in /trash/ if you don't mind.
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>>173799551
He can't run away from you if his legs are broken

Also it's important remember that Cream and Big thought Sonic had kidnapped their friends so they were probably pretty miffed.
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>>173801268
He didn't say it was bad, tho.

>>173801290
Why are you complaining about it in the new thread, instead of posting that in the old thread?
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>>173801429
He's an idiot.
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>>173801021
What is this game
She looks cute
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>>173799343
There is literally nothing wrong with Black Knight,
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23 unused side characters and they want to create a new one? Why not use Metal Sonic, Team Hooligan and Team Babaloyn or shit, even the banished IX tribe and Eggman Nega if they're hurting for antagonists, shit they could even write Battle bird kukku and speedy back in if they really wanted more antagonists a new character like the deadly six aren't needed all and we know those nick reject fuckers are still alive because Sonic Runners showed them plotting revenge
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>>173801569
Crosscode. An unfinished Early Acess Steam Indie Game thats sort of an .Hackesque Action Role Play Game
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>>173801669
Considering we're talking about Iizuka here, he very well could re-introduce an old character & say "it's a new one."
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>>173801290
>This must be the most unpleasable general on /vg/, I swear
Nah, that's still the others. At least we talk about Sonic and not erp all day like the /xivg/ for example.
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>>173801669
Nobody cares about any of those losers.
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>>173801785
I wish he'd do that to Shade, she seemed nice enough in didn't belong to be trapped in a shithole game like chronicles forever bound to Bioware, if Silver could get a second chance through Rivals I don't see why she shouldn't
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRTnMTUsIdc

I want someone relentless other then Metal Sonic to be chasing Sonic the Hedgehog that COULD capture him. A robot that will be oh so relentless that Sonic could only stun it. Not destroy him until the penultimate stage.
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>>173801669
Because all of those aren't Sonic. People want more playable characters, but anyone not named Sonic gets shit on, so just make a Sonic to accomodate another playstyle
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>>173800713
It had a pretty complete and detailed FAQ with even art in it. I'd say that's pretty real.
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>>173801865
I-I like those losers.

>>173801972
Shade is never coming back mostly because of the Penders nonsense.
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>>173801972
Because Penders will sue.
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>>173801865
And people will care about the new one? Even if it's Sally people will still be pissed off because just how many people remember her now?
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>>173801972
Who knows, she might be the third playstyle.

She's someone nobody would expect thanks to her shitty origin game and the Penders lawsuit. Then Eggman conquering the planet fits with the Chronicles cliffhanger.
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>>173802234

even better
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Throws ice bombs at Sonic
Sonic uses them to solidify Chaos and damage him
Eggman: "No way! I can't believe this!"
continues doing the same thing

https://youtu.be/1-K164j-5RQ
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>>173801823
>At least we talk about Sonic

That's an interesting way of saying "autistic screeching at each other until page 10".
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>>173802216
>>173802234
Penders! Isn't that asshole the reason the comics are getting shitcanned now as well?
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>>173801741
>unfinished

Goddamnit.
Ah well, look forward to it when it's completed.
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>>173802545
No, that is Archie's fault.
Just like how the lawsuit ended.
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So. What's the new leak thing?
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I don't think I've seen this in the other thread.
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>>173797961
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>>173802643
Dont trust that anon he's a faggot
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>>173802740
I guess.
I miss Wentos.
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>>173802672
Oh lord, I missed this AND this news that
>the new 3rd character is announced to be revealed at E3 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQc6c14KHTs
and I didn't put it in the OP, sorry guys It'll be there next time. Hopefully I'm active at the end of this thread.
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>>173801669
Eggman Nega is a fucking awful character.
It's a great idea ruined by exection.

Wow, Eggman's grandfather was a man who swore vengeance on the world and his descendant a man who will destroy the world because of Eggman's failures, we could kinda tie somethign in with this!
Nope, awful character design outside the shades and hardly used unless you like the Olympics or A CHILDRENS CARD GAME YUGI.
And also cockblocked from the comics.
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>>173800730
I really love Hesse's art. He has really great composition so his drawings are easy to read and I feel like he manages to play around with how the characters cartoonyness in a good way.The colors and posing is just really well done and the tone is pretty great.
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>>173802448
Egg Dragoon/Egg Viper/Egg thing that's the last boss of Sonic's story
Eggman puts up a bridge between himself and the platform Sonic is standing on
Eggman: "See if you can make it through here, Sonic!"
Sonic can
Eggman keeps doing the same thing

boss fights in sonic adventure were a little lackluster
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>>173800674
The CGI scenes.
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>>173803745
>boss fights in sonic were a little lackluster
FTFY
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>>173800674
it looks more like his Shadow the Hedgehog render to be honest
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>>173802481
Nobody's doing that now you poopy face.
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SEGA wouldn't ACTUALLY put an RTS-like thingie in a Sonic game without having Creative Assembly get involved in the game, right?
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You little thieves. Did you really think you could get out of here alive?
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>>173802603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ccYSIe4caI&t=959s

>>173801741
Its still worth playing. The Devs:Radical Fish Games stream every Sunday to do updates in it. Like Spriteworks and Custom Drawings.
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Persona/SMT-esque Sonic game when?
Atlus is on Team Sega so why not?

Either that or a Etrian Oddysy type game featuring Sonic characters going into dungeons.
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>>173802990
Oh shit. Are they gonna hold a conference?
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>>173802545
Kind of.
If the Pendering was WWI, then what's happening now is WWII.
The second is indirectly the result of the first, but there's a lot of other factors to consider as well.
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>>173805172
So which country is /sthg/ then?
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>>173805301
France.
We're about to get fucked for the second time in a row.
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>>173805301
France by the sound of things.
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>>173805485
I see and feel the evil
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>>173805485
>>173805560
Poor Rouge.
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>>173805589
Black Writings on the Wall
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>>173805628
???
Are we in danger of losing second best slut?
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>>173805705
>second best
C'mon now. Who the fuck would be best then?
Tikal?
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>>173805705
Alright I'll bite.
If Rouge is best slut, who is second best slut?
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>>173805819
I'm guessing Sally
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>>173805801
>>173805819
Why, Sally of course
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>>173805630
You think you have the answer
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>>173805819
Vanilla or Lah
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>>173805819
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>>173805965
I fuckin' knew it.
Kek.
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>>173805819
Oh sorry I said that backwards, I mean if Rouge is second best.
And of course it would be Sally, I feel like an idiot now
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>>173805965
EWWWWW
SHESALL NEKKID 'N' SHEEEEEIT!
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>>173805965
Kek, of course
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>>173805819
Best slutfu
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So I haven't been here in a week. Any new Sanic Boom episodes or anything new on the Comic?
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>>173806313

nice
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>>173806481
Yes. No.
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>>173806047
>>173805965
>>173806273
>>173806313
I have to hand it to her.
She's not my overall favorite girl and doesn't even make my top 10 for girlfriend/wife status, but if I wanted a quick fuck, nobody is better.
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>>173806561
Well sure. That's her only redeeming factor.
It's not like there's anything remotely interesting about her character besides her body and her voice. And if that sounds like I'm slighting her, think again. Her body and her voice are excellent
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>>173806561
Fiona is made for a quick rut.
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What's the matter big boy? Never had your cock sucked by a chipmonk before?

What's the matter big boy? Never had your cock massaged by bat tits before?

There's now stop the degenerate posting and get back to what's important?
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>>173806561
Art so good, I bet god made it!
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>>173806809
Theres nothing NEW that is important that we already discussed.
Its just hypothisis bullshit pandering that will be brought up instead of talking about the current games/series of Sonic thats been revealed that we still got to go over.

I rather have us a story-time of sorts.
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>>173806941
>Its just hypothisis bullshit pandering that will be brought up instead of talking about the current games/series of Sonic thats been revealed that we still got to go over.
Then talk about what's been revealed retard.
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>>173804330
SEGA would be utterly retarded to put an RTS in-general in a Sonic game. Plus, an RTS on consoles usually doesn't end very well.
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>>173806941
Can we at discuss why this exists?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krGOVc8zomI

This song does not speak Sonic's language at all.
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>>173806561
Isn't that literally what Fiona was for?

>>173807121
You're right, it's Big's.
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>>173807021
We did talk about it. Where have you been?
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>>173805965
>gets written as a bitch for years
>made out to be a slut for years after that
>finally rebooted so none of that happened
>comic ends
end my suffering
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>>173806561
>>173807194
Fiona is basically dark sally. Same purpose, same advantages, with a slight bias towards bad boys.
Take your pick, they're both great for one night. Just make sure you cut it off after that.
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>>173807075

what if it's pikmin with hedghegs
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>>173807289
She's honestly worse now imo.
She literally has no purpose now.
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>>173807373
Yeah. Slut Sal was annoying, but at least she had a purpose, now she's just... there.
we will never get Salcole even though Ian has straight up said he wants to do it but won't because for too long Sally was "Sonic's girl"
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>>173807373
They should've made her a secondary character and either ditched the princess thing, or ditched the FF concept altogether and kept the characters, just have them do different things. Maybe have them show up once in a while to help, but they're not a formal group. Hell, they barely know each other
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>>173807363
Putting a major genre change into a Sonic game seems like a bad idea in general. I think fans would be really mad if they pulled a Brutal Legend on them.
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>>173807289
Look on the bright side, she's never won a fight in either continuity. even in this new one where she has a twin daggers. the three times she fights end with her battered and beaten only running on resolve and the luck of the plot that her enemy has to withdraw. I don't think there's a single character in the comic she could actually go up against and win or even stalmate. Shit, Even Bunnie and Antonie have won a few scuffles. Through I suppose since the game characters are so strong themselves they don't need the freedom fighters to be able to fight an egg boss in hand to hand when Shadow or Sonic, Rouge,Amy,Knuckles,Tails or even Cream and Big are there Gemerl,too.
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>>173807483
Maybe she will improve in the upcoming freedom fighter arc... when it lands in stores....... oh wait
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>>173807121
http://lnsector.deviantart.com/art/Froggy-speaks-his-mind-83763646
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>>173807558
>Oh wait
I think you mean oh no
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>>173807558
I doubt it. Really, I think you could've used this idea >>173807551 that she's a shit fighter and a bad leader, and have her realize that maybe, just maybe she's not really needed, nor are the FFs. That's a good way to play down everyone's roles and have them go off and do their own things
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>>173807474
Ian's already said he doesn't want to address LGBT stuff in the comic, so it wasn't happening regardless.
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>The third character in Forces will be an “unexpected character”. Sonic Boom Sonic is NOT in the game. However, the third character “plays an important role in the story, and embodies the overall features of the game”.
So, what, Silver?
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>>173807632
He said last year if mandates wernt a thing he would "actively push for it" and that his "politics on the matter have been made clear" (he's for it).

But yeah it won't happen either way because the comic is dead.
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>>173807558
Amazing that right when they were finally about to do something with the FFs, the comic may be kill. Shame, because I found their post-reboot selves to be better, even if they didn't do a whole lot.

>>173807717
I think it may be a villain. I mean we already have 2 characters that represent the resistance, it makes sense to have someone represent Eggman's side. Question is, who should it be?
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>>173807717
It's gonna be Ray!
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You now realize that pre-Ian, the Freedom Fighters literal only contribution to anything was keeping Sonic from getting distracted and on track with the mission because physically speaking the efforts were always 95% sonic, 3% bunnie, and 2% other.
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>>173807806
>Question is, who should it be?
Metal Sonic.
Though I guess that isn't unexpected.
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>>173807717
It's gotta be someone people would actually like.
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It's time for Nack to make a comeback.
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>>173807893
True. I'd love Metal, but it's said to be unexpected.

Oh shit, maybe one of the characters went evil & joined up with Eggman? If that's the case /sthg/, who would it be?
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>>173807859
And nothing has really changed. Except now it's 99% Sonic 1% everyone else. Sonic could just do everything on their own, they might as well go home, sit on their hands, and wait for Sonic to save the day, which is really what they should do
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>>173807996
In the golden age it was implied Sonic was only marginally better than any other primary freedom fighter. That's how they beat the egg emperor after all. Sonic couldn't do shit at full power/speed, but the FF took it out like it was paper.
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>>173808083
So it made Sonic look incompetent to make them look even semi-useful? That's pretty shitty. Thank god it's no longer like that
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>it's a "Sally should be retarded or bad" shitposting rerun
oh boy
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>>173807996
and that's exactly what the extended cast to in generations, Blaze,Silver,Shadow and Knuckles are capable of fighting Eggman,too yet they just stood there cheering on Sonic when they got flattened instead of jumping in because, as you said,Sonic can do everything himself. It's no wonder people hate his friends, they're fucking useless and when they try to be useful people get mad that they're taking away screen time from Sonic himself and that Sonic can do what they're doing anyway. Years of bad writing have done this it's Goku and Mario syndrome.
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>>173808159
It was forced for sure, but that brief show of teamwork was still better than them being pointless
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>>173808256
Anon, aren't you entertained by our daily reruns of "baiting /sthg?" Isn't it fun how people could spam the same shit over & over and retards will still respond?
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>>173808256
>Should be
She always has been.
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>>173808274
Maybe the solution is to just not have them there
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>>173808375
truly epic
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First post to end in 5 determines who the new character will be in Forces.
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>>173808694
Scourge
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>>173808694
Crash Bandicoot
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>>173808694
Master Chief
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>>173808694
Sally
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>>173808694
Mario
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>>173808694
my personal OC who is Blaze's boyfriend
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>>173808694
Bubsy.
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>>173808694
Warped-Blaze the Cat
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>>173808694
Gaben
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>>173808694
Metal Sonic
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>>173808694
Chris Thorndyke
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>>173808524
But then the storyfags would bitch about Sonic's world being boring because it's just him and Eggman all the time and then those same storyfags would be mad about a 3D game only having Sonic and Eggman in it. Sega has made a massive hole of this franchise and I wonder how the hell they still have fans left? Is it because of the fanbase breaking off into purityfags and storyshitters constantly battling each other for supremacy? If it wasn't for that Sonic as a brand would of died off years ago.

Tails's only existance is to fly that damn plane even through it's Sonic's plane and Sonic himself knows how to fly it. God dammit, litterally every character but Sonic,Eggman and Metal Sonic have the ability to be written useful and engaging.
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>>173808694
Arin Hanson
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>>173808694
Sonic-Man.
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>>173808694
Blaze the Cat under mind control
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>>173808694
Me
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>>173808694
It's obviously an unexpected character.
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>>173808694
Rayman
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>Leaks
It's from Famitsu you dingbats
That's not a leak that's a preview
If Famitsu was scanned and posted online before its official release, THEN it could be considered a leak
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>>173808694
Sanic meme character voiced by Egoraptor
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>>173808959
Maybe just ignore the storyfags. If the characters are useless because Sonic can do everything, then so be it. No need to nerf Sonic, because jobbing him out for other characters is just a shit idea in general
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>>173808694
Knuckles
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>>173808694
Future Sonic with a beard.
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>>173808694
Metal Sonic
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>>173808961
kek
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>>173809125
Knuckles isn't new
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>>173808694
Duke Nukem
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>>173809125
good
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>>173808694
A new Zeti
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>>173809125
There we have it, Knuckles is the new character in Forces!

Now, first post to end in 8 determines what his gameplay will be!
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>>173809125
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>>173809262
Lost World Style
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>>173809183
But he's unexpected.

>>173809262
Beat'em u->>173809328
Fuck.
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>>173809328
>Lost World Style
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>>173809125
This game just keeps getting better
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So, how would Sonic act if he was drunk?
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How exactly do they justifying Eggman taking the world when you have Knuckles,Shadow and Tails around?
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>>173809328
so like, just the parkour or..?
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>>173809328
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>>173809531
They're not Sonic
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>>173809516
He'd fall down fast
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>>173809516
Sorry, here's a non-blurry version.

>>173809531
I imagine Eggman created or discovered something that overpowered Shadow, Tails, Knuckles, Amy & the rest.
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>>173809516
A total slut to Amy and making drunk advances to her.
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>>173809516
I can actually see him being a very calm, almost sleepy drunk, simply because he doesn't need booze to be happy and have fun.
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>>173809516
Sonic probably gets drunk a decent amount actually.
He's probably just more of an asshole than he already is.
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>>173808694
Infinite
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>>173808694
Create-a-character
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>>173808694
Sleuth Doggy Dawg
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>>173809464
Why? Knuckles has nothing on him that Sonic doesn't. What use is gliding when Sonic can run faster than that? What use is climbing if Sonic can just run up the fucking wall? What use is breaking down shit when Sonic's Boost is so strong he can bust through whatever Knuckles can punch down and let's not forget he was speeding through giant boulders and shit as classic sonic as well. Knuckles would be a useless as fuck character, the new character is likely punished Sonic or Metal Sonic so they can do yet another evil sonic storyline. Can't be Boom Sonic because he's nowhere near as fast or powerful as the regular sonic.
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>>173809119
>Sonic should be a mary sue and not have supporting characters to cover his flaws
great idea
fanfiction/10
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>>173810047
Sonic doesn't really have flaws, and even if he does have flaws, they never really stop him from saving the day, so it doesn't matter in the end
>>173810080
What a surprise, hack writer jobs out Sonic to hype up his pet character
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>>173810047
>Responding to a shitpost that's been posted here numerous times jut to upset other anons

Fool
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>>173810139
>Sonic doesn't really have flaws, and even if he does have flaws, they never really stop him from saving the day, so it doesn't matter in the end
lol
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>>173810015
Knuckles is rougher, tougher, and more muscular than Sonic.
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>>173810241
Name one time his "Flaws" have stopped him from ultimately winning in the end
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>>173810080
It's raping time
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>>173810294
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>>173809516
I think he would be a really annoying drunk. Everyone has that really nice friend. Everyone looks up to them. They're smart, kind, a bit of a jokester. But when they're drunk jfc they're annoying. They're not assholes or aggressive they're just... annoying. And you can't tell them to shut the hell up because they're so fucking nice in general.

That's what Drunk Sonic is to me.
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>>173810047
Sonic IS a mary sue, that's what he's always been. The only justifiable time he needed help was Dark Gaia and Solaris, FinalHazard could of been handled by him alone but the game needed Shadow to contribute, Metal Overload could of been handled by Sonic alone but needed Tails and Knuckles to contribute. Fucking over Sonic's esbalished powers just so lesser characters get a reason to shine is stupid as fuck, For fucking sakes this happens twice in the Rush series, there was no reason Sonic couldn't of beaten the eggmen by himself considering they were in ONE mecha together. Blaze's excuse for being there in the second one was just to block fire so Sonic could get close enough and even that's doggy when he's so fast in super form Eggman can barely track him.
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>>173810417
Non-canon.
>>173810451
This. All of this. He probably lets others help so as to make them feel better. Sonic's always been a Mary Sue. That's the entire point
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>>173810294
>>173810451
>>173810539
lol
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>>173810417
This is about as disgusting as when Sonic and Megaman jobbed to the fucking deadly six and immediately got robotized right afterwards just so the lesser heroes could waste 2 issues worth of spread panels jobbing to them, Shadow didn't even get a turn because he's the only person who sorta can fight Sonic equally so they killed him off in the dumbest way possible for cheap drama
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>>173810628
So you have no counterargument? Okay then
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>>173810738
lol
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>>173809516

I'd say his metabolism was too quick to get drunk.
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>>173810539
I don't think you know how the Canon works, lad
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>>173810539
Actually, considering that the events that led Eggman to seek to create a super genesis wave began there, it's very much canon.
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>>173808694
Black Magician.
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>>173810840
The continuity that got erased from canon within a non-canon spinoff comic that's never referenced in the games isn't canon
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So, in the end, Sonic should never had friends to begin with, since he never needed help and is powerfull? Like, SEGA should instead just reuse Sonic 1's plot forever?
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>>173810840
>>173810906
Reboot purists always forget that the reboot is built on top of the preboot. Without the former the latter can not exist. They also don't understand how the super genesis wave works
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>>173810840
Any reason you'er responding to old shitposts seriously?
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>>173810925
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>>173810993
Good point.
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>>173810925
checked
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>>173810961
Nah, he should just keep having tougher and tougher foes show up. Any characters that show up are there to cheer him on and point him in the direction of where to go or if he needs to find anything specific to have an easier time. Or as sidequests in between plot stuff
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>>173810969
Most people know and understand this.
It's only a few guys shitposting that all the time.
Besides, when the whole comic dies, such arguments will be pointless
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>>173810993
you're*
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>>173810961
Might as well, or even go the SegaSonic route.
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>>173799543
Sega made the image. They don't give a shit about assface mohawk Sonic.
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>>173797961
This OP image is literally art, I just noticed it.
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26 years later, it's time to settle this zone once and for all...

Bad Game design?
Or an excellent casual filter?
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>>173811517
The only bad game design is not introducing water any earlier to prep the player and introduce them to the concept.

Labyrinth Zone on its own merits is perfectly fine.
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>>173811279
>insulting the best design
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>>173811765
I can't even judge the quill cut because that's way waaaay too much of a case of cyclopsism
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I finally understood who the third character is. We have the Sonic from present and the Sonic from past. Third one will be from future.
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>>173811517
There has never been a good water level in all of video games.
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>>173811517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz_9RHFnoSs
>oh god the memories
>the horror.................
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>>173800730
The problem with the art is, it makes the comic feel like I'm just reading another one of his stupid boxerhockey comics.
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>>173811853
Nah, it's Knuckles
Dubs confirm
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>>173811878
>There has never been a good water level in all of video games.
Dolphin Shoals in MK8 disagrees
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>>173811891
That's probably because that's all he can draw. He has absolutely no range
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Sorry about the super delay in the "leaks." I fell asleep right when the thread got posted.

Here they are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEZYpH8AU_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7JSPAuYKeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGengN3ZDfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faHBSL4nE78
At least one of these should be very easy to find for some of you, I am ashamed.
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>actually unironically shitting on Hesse
Well, that's a new low for this place.
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>>173812178
....
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>>173812205
He's a one trick pony, and you fell for his trick
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>>173812178
RIP knowing any of the first three, which I half expect to be Korean GGXX OST again, but I know that last one from a mile away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5jfW1qRvUk
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>>173812356
Good thing that trick is wonderful.
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>>173811279
>tfw mohawk sonic will be forever lost in the 90s
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>>173812205
Eh, it's no big deal. I personally love his work. He makes the characters look cute & that's enough in my book.
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>>173812205
He's a tool.
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>>173812535
>LEWACKYFACESXD
>Anything but garbage
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>>173812665
>>173812672
No need to project, shitposters.
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>>173812178
So why are you wasting your time with this crap?
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>>173811827
>waaaay
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>>173812762
It's fun to listen too.
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>>173812762
He's providing us with fresh leaks, anon.
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>>173812762
Literally have nothing better to do and the threads lately have just been dull and boring and full of shitposting so I'm trying to do something more engaging and fun.

If it's annoying you guys can just tell me to stop.
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>>173812715
>If you don't like Hesse you're a shitposter
Tyson pls
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>>173811517
Good zone, wrong game for it to be in. As a level it was okay, if annoying as all hell. Though it makes Star Light feel far better after completing it.
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>>173811984
That's not entirely fair, he has got a pretty good range.
One could make the complaint he's not as animated as drawing Sonic as the other artists who draw him are, but it's fairly on point and consistent. Also I really like his style, but I understand liking something is the whole objective thing. It's that whole classic vibe, I don't know who did the classic drawings in the recent Genesis tales, but Hesse's just seem more CD-esque, which I adore.

I fucking love Hesse as it goes.
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>>173812876
>If you're a shitposter you're a shitposter
ftfy, shitposter
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>>173812878
EYE EM OH starlight is a poor man's stardust
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>>173812846
Go ahead & keep doing it. They're fun.

>>173812957
Not that anon, but are you done yet?
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>>173812665
Out of curiosity, is there a specific reason you think he's a tool?
I mean, drawing Sonic to a standard you don't agree with is understandable, but thinking he's a tool when he's putting some work into making more products for our blue rat is a bit harsh.
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>>173812846
I was just curious, but no amount of fake nonsense will make the shitposting go away, and it's only going to get worse.
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>>173813016
>asking a shitposter a serious question
Why bother?
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>>173811517
it's fine
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>>173812205
>people actually hating his art
Welp I've met a new type of fan group aswell, anon.
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>>173813046
My dream is for /sthg/ to destroy itself in trolling like /arsys/ did 2 years ago it got so ugly people actually met up and shot each other.
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>>173813172
What, & for what purpose?
>>
Explain this picture to me.
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>>173813172
Wait, what? Story? I used to go there, I need to hear what happened?
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>>173807474
Honestly, I do not want that ship to happen in the book.
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>>173813062
I'm tired and circling the same threads on /sthg/ make me forget I haven't got my life in order.
It's not so bad.
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>>173813172
>it got so ugly people actually met up and shot each other.
What now?
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>>173813172
Don't bring up /arcsys/ please.
I tried so hard keeping that general alive but neither /blaz/ or /ggx/ would stop shitposting.
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>>173813046
If the comic is dead, this place will be dead next year anyway.
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>>173812961
Oh god, without a doubt. Stardust Speedway is the best zone Sonic has ever cooked up, and the best Takumi Miyake (CD, Chaotix) has ever designed. That "90s Utopia" aesthetic defined my childhood, and I'm ecstatic it's coming back in Mania.
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>>173813228
Amy is having a disappointing birthday party.

>>173812205
Note the shitposters don't present an actual argument. Ignore it.
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>>173813397
>Still thinking this place will die if the Comics end.
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>>173813228

Sonic and the gang stage an intervention to tell Amy that wearing a party hat doesn't make her a unicorn.
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>>173813471
There will be literally nothing after Forces to talk about.
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>>173812178
that's a jojo reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzBwBwUYqqg
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>>173813260
GGfags and BBfags trolled the ever loving shit out of each other, anybody who tried to ignore it was ganged up on by factions of either side until eventually the entire threads were just filled with death threats towards the other side and wanting them to die. It got to a head when a guy from the GG side and a guy from the BB side both lived in Chicago and met up to fight, one died while the other got life in prison and as such only /blaz/ remains, all attempts at GG getting their own thread failed horrible and now they're mainly on /v/ and in /fgg/ since they dind't have the numbers BB had. However, /blaz/ is dying and soon they too will join /fgg/ as /v/ only cares about the fapbait characters of BB.

I want that to happen here because it was amazing to watch how quickly people took it seriously and how death actually happened. It was like if /pol/ wasn't a bunch of pussies. So Storyfags, Purityfags, fight and continue to fight as I do expect you all to surpass that drama
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>>173813228
They called her a rat.
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>>173813606
>I want that to happen here

Yeah, fuck that. No one here is that autistic to do something as serious as fighting each other over Sonic.
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>>173812961
CD is an alternate sonic 2 in a way.

palmtree panic - green hill
collision chaos - spring yard
tidal tempest - labryinth
stardust speedway - starlight
metalic madness - scrap brain

starlight is the prequel.

btw I'm also glad the sonic series didn't stick with the idea of using the same few level themes over and over. well until now.
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>>173813606
That sounds fucking hilarious. I want that to happen now
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>>173812846
Keep 'em coming, I'm finding new driving music.
>>
Apparantly from Famitsu:

The third character in Forces will be an “unexpected character”. Sonic Boom Sonic is NOT in the game. However, the third character “plays an important role in the story, and embodies the overall features of the game”.

“The boost system from Sonic Unleashed is present, as well as stages based on reaching the goal and clearing them a certain time limit also seem to be present.”

“Classic Sonic stages are based on side scrolling 2D action.” Apparently, they will also have a twist.

Sonic Forces will be at E3 this year. We are told that E3 will be where the third character will be revealed.

Sonic Forces’ story summary from the magazine: “Dr. Eggman took over 99% of the world. Sonic and the “Resistance” members are fighting. Then another Sonic appears…” It then talks about Classic Sonic appearing, Classic and Modern being two different style, and then there being a third one.

The reason why Eggman takes over so much of the world is because of “a new power” that his obtains, resulting in his army controlling that much of the world. However, this power is also what makes Classic Sonic appear.

Morio Kishimoto is the director of Sonic Forces. He designed Secret Rings and Black Knight. He also directed Sonic Lost World and the Wii version of Sonic Colors.

Sonic Forces has been in development since 2013, and started around Sonic Lost World’s release.

“Forces was chosen as a subtitle from it meaning “power” and “army”. Two strong forces (Sonic and co vs. Eggman) are facing off in the game.”

“This time, Sonic is fighting an Eggman who has nearly taken over the world.”

2017, with the release of Sonic Forces and Sonic Mania, is a “continuation” of Sonic’s 25th anniversary.
The game won’t be all dark and gloomy. There are some lighter stages in Forces.

1/2
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>Eggman attained a "new power" that allowed him to conquer the world

Oh COME ON. Why can't he do it by his own power for once? Christ.
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>>173813370
Maybe it was for the good.
There is always a way to talk about arcsys. Either here or outside.
>>173813606
You are an asshole, you better stop because if that ever happens and find your post you are gonna have a bad time. You are no better than them.
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>>173813757
>No one here is that autistic
I'm pretty sure there is.
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>>173813606
>both lived in Chicago and met up to fight,
Not gonna happen here, we never leave the house.
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>>173813590
Fug.
Good job.
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>>173813903
Nah. And wanting people to fight or die over Sonic is pretty fucking stupid.
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>>173812205
Anon, we've had shitposters go after the likes of Toby-Barrett, S-Dash, Flynn, and even fucking ABT of all people. They're doing it to get a rise out of people. The best way to fight it is by reporting it and ignoring it.
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>>173813862
What if by "attained a "new power"" they meant he invented something?
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>>173813849
>Sonic Forces has been in development since 2013, and started around Sonic Lost World’s release.
So we're looking at 3 & a half to 4 years of development?
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>>173813862
Hey he needed a little boost, but what matters is that he did it.

>>173814040
Pretty much. Makes me wonder if a Sonic game has ever had that long of a development time.
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>>173813172
Okay I need to hear the rest of this.
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>>173813862
Because Eggman isn't competent enough to do it on his own. He probably used a time portal to send Sonic into the future or some shit, or a way to send him to another dimension
>>173813949
Stupid yes, but funny as shit
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>>173807314
Fiona's a pedo
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>>173813471
You better fucking hope Forces sells gangbusters then.

If Forces fails, SEGA is killing Sonic for good.
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>>173813849
>Morio Kishimoto is the director of Sonic Forces. He designed Secret Rings and Black Knight. He also directed Sonic Lost World and the Wii version of Sonic Colors.
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>>173813606
Please tell me there's thread caps of this.
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>>173814128
Look if you want people to fight & die for your amusement, fuck off to some other general. No one here cares enough about Sonic to do something that stupid.
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>>173813806
Wouldn't it be great if that happened all over the world? People killing each other all at once over stupid shit? Nothing but death and destruction out there? We'd finally be free of the lies of our society and just do what we want, kill who we want, take what we want. Sonic could be the trigger to start this if you all believe in yourselves enough.
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>>173814196
>implying any Sonic character is more of a pedo than Sally
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>>173814097
Heroes and Unleashed both took 3 years.

I'd wager most of the devtime was spent on the new engine like with those games.
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>>173813849
2/2
There is a circular ring of white stars above a Mirage Saloon screenshot in Sonic Mania, suggesting the return of Sonic 3’s bonus stages.

Sonic Mania’s development began in 2015. Sonic Team wanted to do a new 2D Sonic game and “not a remake”.

The general rule for the art of Sonic Mania was to be above the level of Genesis, but under the level of Saturn.

The gameplay for Mania is similar to Sonic 3’s. The elemental shields were mentioned, but just that they are returning (that, we already knew).

Personal thoughts:
The hell were the A team (Unleashed / Generations) doing between 2011 and 2013?

"A new power", Oh great, Time eater 2.0 incoming.

"Sonic Team wanted to do a new 2D Sonic -" Ha ha, screw off sonic team, Taxman / stealth & PagodaWest Games are the ones actually contributing anything halfeway intelligent to Mania, and anything you have to input's only dragging it down (Bringing back old stages, why?) (Also already confirmed that the dev team are shooting for saturn level capabilities, not some "above the level of Genesis, but under the level of Saturn")
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>>173813849
>Morio Kishimoto is the director of Sonic Forces. He designed Secret Rings and Black Knight. He also directed Sonic Lost World and the Wii version of Sonic Colors.
This is not a good thing. This is the exact opposite of a good thing.
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>>173814384
How long have you been in this fanbase? People would ABSOLUTELY kill over Sonic. All it take is just a small push
>>173814385
Isn't that what the world is already? People killing over stupid shit?
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>>173814430
Most likely. It'd be interesting to see if the effort pays off or not.

>>173814410
St. John
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Looks like we got a legit sociopath in here.
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>>173814603
I sure love bland hallways cramped with enemies to boost through or be forced into combat with in the event I don't have a boost, oh and automated sections of sonic running around a house or through a loop, those sure were fun.
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>>173814679
Maybe on SSMB or SEGA forums, but not here.

>>173814762
More like a try hard edgelord.
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>>173813849
>“Forces was chosen as a subtitle from it meaning “power” and “army”. Two strong forces (Sonic and co vs. Eggman) are facing off in the game.”
Then how come none of the friends are playable?
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>>173814762
Welcome to 4chan.
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>>173814916
They probably only decided to do the "forces of good vs. evil" thing around 2015 or so. They could've made the decision to not include them as playables & include Classic Sonic early in its development. Only excuse I can think of.
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>>173814504
Your personal thoughts mirror my own. Also, how much you want to bet that Mania's ending directly ties to Classic being in Forces?
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>>173814040
Most of that was probably developing the engine itself, not necessarily the game as a whole. Remember this is the first PS4/XB1 game, and they made a big deal of Hedgehog Engine 2.0
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>>173814916
Because the only person who could really help Sonic in any meaningful way is Sonic himself
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>>173815053
Have they said anything about Mania having a story?
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>>173813016
I don't even hate his art. That's not my issue with him.

He defended Skullgirls shilling on /v/.
He made request threads back when /v/ banned drawthreads.
He once was in a /co/ thread about commissions, where everyone was talking about how some shitty porn artist made his numbers up. Hesse came in, said something about what he thinks about prices in general, then posted a image he drew.
He said that he won't say who he is, but posted the image as an example for a commission that is worth so-so dollars. 5 seconds in google lead everyone to his deviantart where he uploaded that particular drawing a few minutes before posting in the thread.

He appears to be very naive in general in a way many terrible artist personalities behave as well. However it could also be just an act.
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>>173815167
That's a fucking stupid mindset. You couldn't even finish Sonic 3 if Tails didn't exist.
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>>173815254
True, but in terms of beating Eggman, only Sonic is capable. If Sonic can't do it, just have Classic help
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>>173815194
I think they said there's a story related reason as to why the old stages are back.

>>173815269
Adventure Amy is too cute for this world.
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>>173815217
Is there anything particularly wrong with anything you just listed?

I'm beginning to thing the tool here is you, anon.
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>yfw the third character is Sticks
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>>173815503
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>>173815329
>only Sonic can beat Eggman
So the Knuckles and Tails runs of the Genesis games and Tails's Bosses in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 don't exist? What about the Shadow the Hedgehog game?
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I kind of wish Extreme Gear could get a mention in later Sonic Games. Not in a new Riders, mind you but I'd be okay with that as well but I liked their designs and the concept of them being widely used in more populated, urban zones. I'd think they'd add something substantial to Sonic's world. Sorta like clothes brands in Splatoon or something along those lines.
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>>173815217
This seems to have more to do with you being petty rather than Hesse being a "tool".
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>>173815053
I honestly doubt it, Sonic team haven't had any games that had a plot that went into each other in over a decade, why start now with two vastly different titles?
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>>173815635
Non canon and Tails got played like a fiddle. And Shadow fought Black Doom canonically. Nobody besides Sonic can save the day outside of Shadow that one time, and the y jobbed Sonic out to make that possible
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>>173815919
Past games have shown that most of Sonic's friends can beat Eggman.
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>>173816051
But in the end, Sonic's the one who beats him once and for all
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>>173816051
Only Blaze has shown that ability. in Rush when she beat the shit out of Eggman for the Sol Emeralds
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Wouldn't it be great if Sonic games had customizable skins, like the Arkham games? People are going to do that with mods anyway. Have every incarnation of Sonic, Tails or whatever be an unlockable skin.
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>>173816051
Why are you still responding?
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>>173815691
>Those garbage designs
Absolutely fucking disgusting.
The bulbous shit in Zero Gravity was terrible.

Give me that OG shit.

Though I agree they'd be nice to see around.
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>>173815919
>nobody can save the day except Sonic
Tails' Adventure
Knuckles Chaotix

But sure, keep moving them goalposts. I'm sure you can make it to the next state by nightfall.
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>>173815919
>Non canon
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>>173816370
Not him but you and I both know those games aren't canon.
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I had a dream last night that there was a 3DS game being released next to Forces and Mania that played in the Heroes playstyle called Vector's Chaotix.
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>>173814504
I can't wait for the source of this new power to betray him once again.
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>>173813228
She's pregnant and Knuckles is the Father
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Spoiler: This new power is Mephiles the Dark.
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>>173804330
i want to lewdly touch Sticks' tummy
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>>173816572
I'm thinking that's the new character. It's another monster of the week that Eggman is using to take over. It betrays him and is the final boss. Makes the most sense honestly
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>>173816572
>"The new character will be unexpected!"
>it's just the time eater again
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>>173816572

>the new power is Classic/Future Eggman
>they still betray him
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>people believe random essay-long posts with no links
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>>173816482
According to...?
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>>173816883
It's from Famitsu. Try to keep up, we just got a massive influx of news
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>>173816902
Iizuka.
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>>173816984
Then give sauce
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>>173816883
Literally a copy and paste job, my man.
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/04/12/famitsu-has-released-new-information-on-sonic-mania-forces-iizuka-interview/

Have a pity (You).
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>>173817043
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/04/12/famitsu-has-released-new-information-on-sonic-mania-forces-iizuka-interview/

5 seconds in google
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>>173816861
Well, who'd expect that heap of shit again?

>>173816880
>Classic Eggman gets tired of shit own shit
I'd rather this happen, but instead of current Eggman getting blown the fuck out you have to deal with both of them at once while they fight each other.
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>>173807474
>>173807373
What do you guys mean by "she doesn't have a purpose"? I mean her role as the leader is pretty much intact, she just got shafted a bunch towards the end since they realized Sonic was still the main character.
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>>173815217
I think these are slight grievances which you took to heart, but meh, you're opinion man, I ain't going to force you to like him.
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>>173816902
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?355146-Do-you-consider-Sonic-Chronicles-to-be-canon/page8&p=6491563#post6491563
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>>173817338
She's the leader, but what she does doesn't matter since Sonic doesn't listen and gets shit done anyways. The FFs are redundant in general since we have more than enough heroes to take care of any and all threats. The only reason Sally was relevant for so long was because she wanted his dick. Without that, she has no reason to exist
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>>173816761
>>173816861
>>173816880

If Sonic Team had half of a creative brain, the "monster of the week" would turn on Eggman early on in the game and that would be the new gameplay style. Maybe act 1 would be some sort of kaiju destroying things around the planet at high speed and act 2 would be Sonic following it trying to take it down.
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>>173817096
>>173817119
Sorry I wasnt rushing to verify your shit the minute you posted. So much fake shit floats around all the time you cant blame us for being skeptical.
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Sally did nothing wrong!
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>>173817564
Just checked it.. it's trash
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>>173817760
>Sally is hot
In other news, water is wet.

Nobody is disputing that. That's not the issue, the issue is her besides her sex appeal.
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>>173816360
I'm alright with the bulbs, they give a more consistent, unified design between the extreme gears. Plus they make the designs more interesting, and not just flat planks like the originals.
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>>173816396
> Sonic with moefang
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>>173817828
Kill Silver.
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>>173817828
Marry Elise
Fuck Shahra
Kill Merlina's virginity
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My opinion on the FFs are a bit weird.
I like their designs and they have enough uniqueness to be their own characters without stomping onto already pre-existing ones in the games. (With the exception of Antione because let's be honest, he's useless.)

The problem is that the Sonic cast is already bloated enough and adding 4-5 more characters wouldn't really help things.

I also don't think any writer in the entire Sonic franchise would be capable enough to handle so many personalities. That includes Ian because to be quite blunt and honest about my opinion I don't think Ian is that good. He's just better than most of the writers in the Sonic franchise, which isn't really saying much.

>inb4 someone takes my opinion out of context and gets triggered by it.
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>>173818175
>(With the exception of Antione because let's be honest, he's useless.)
If they just kept him as the useless comedy relief he'd be fine. But now that he had his only trait gutted from him he's useless
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>>173817760
Second to last Sally a best.

Preboot Sally was great even with romance after Ian cleaned up the place.
I'm glad Reboot Sally is a thing though, because
>Best bro Sally is a great friend to Sonic
>Leader without drowning in mobian/human/overlander dick
>Cute not allowed yuri
Although it's with a robot AI. It's called Adam and Eve, not Florence and The Machine.

But yeah, it's a shame she's gone, but I'm glad of the result.
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>>173817760
Never did anything right either!
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I wish I had a hot date with Amy Rose complaining about Sonic all day!
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>>173814504
>The hell were the A team (Unleashed / Generations) doing between 2011 and 2013?
Making Sonic Lost World. Iizuka said all of Sonic Team came together to develop that.
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>>173818175
Agreed on Ian.
I've been reading the comic since 96 and still have every issue since saved in my comic collection. When it comes to the Sonic comic, I've always held that the best stuff is overrated and the worst stuff is underrated. It's all pretty dumb regardless of how you swing it.
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>>173818558
So basically it's never been good?
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>>173818427
You will never go on a date with her because she only likes Sonic. She will only ever love Sonic and no one else. I'm super cereal right now.
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How would you guys feel if I did a lewd draw for a stream tonight.. and maybe a little animating for a little thing i'm working on after that.
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>>173817436
Fair enough, though I'd argue a bit on the FFs. Their individual characters do need fleshing out (interestingly I find Rotor the most enjoyable) but they all have different personalities and backstories that Sonic can easily bounce off of that keep things fresh, instead of having to rely on Tails or Amy, or force the plot to be written in a way where Knuckles or Shadow have to be relevant.

The thing about the rest of the game cast is that they already have established existences and roles that are distinct from Sonic, which is why they rarely ever overlap and end up being kept to Sonic Universe with a few exceptions. The Freedom Fighters are Sonic's main crew and the ones constantly responsible for stopping Eggman. Everyone else from the game-verse has their own agenda.
>Knuckles guards the Master Emerald and doesn't move out unless he really needs to or there's an active threat involving the Master Emerald
>Team Dark is a black operations team which only really does things when G.U.N. says, and evidently handles extraterrestrial threats like Black Death
>Blaze protects her own dimension, and her dimension alone
>The Chaotix just want to do detective stuff, and only fight if it pertains to the case or whatever they're dragged into
>Mighty and Ray just train a lot and do their own thing

Cream, Amy, Tails, and Big are naturally part of the FFs because they don't have independent roles like the others that prevent them from hanging with Sonic a lot.

I don't think the FFs as a concept are bad - I like the idea that there's this whole crew Sonic has which helps balance him out, who balance each other out, and realistically it just makes sense that there'd be more people than just Sonic who have devoted themselves to stopping an oppressive evil like the Eggman - individually they're more than a little weak I won't deny it, and as >>173818175 said, they do kind of bloat things a bit.
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>>173818743
If lewd I will only ask for either Elise, Shahra or Merlina with no furries at all.
If animation, JoJo references
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>>173818743
How about a drawing of a Sonic character giving free shrugs? Because that's how I feel.
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>>173818857
>no furries
does this nigga know where he is?
Well then you'll be disappointed. I was probably gonna do Amy or Honey.
and no Jojo references
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>>173818554
>Bring the entire team together
>Makes game worse than the last major efforts by either half

Sounds about right for Sonic Team.
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>>173819062
i wanna see some motherfucking honey, anon
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>>173819083
They experimented and seemingly by all accounts failed, since nothing from Lost World seems to have carried over. So they're going back to what worked the last 9 years.
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>>173819062
okay then... this anon is sad senpai because this anon wanted a princess, a genie and a wizard desu
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>>173818727
But she actually dated a human in Sonic X.
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>>173819273
Sorry anon. I just draw characters I find fun or interesting. Unfortunately all the human females involved with Sonic are very uninteresting to me.
I did draw shara once so here ya go
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>>173818673
By that anon's accounts,I guess everything has been mediocre. Just like everything Sonic!
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>>173819409
I like that Sonic X tried to imitate the Adventure artwork, but goddamn I never liked how some characters looked so midget-sized in it. Sonic and Amy having toddler proportions always bugged me, it seemed like Shadow, Rouge, and Knuckles were the only ones who looked okay. It didn't help that every other frame was offmodel.
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>>173811984
>Hesse has no range

Hesse has the most range out of any Archie artist in the history of the book
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>>173815217
None of these are actions of a tool anon. You sound like a giant faggot.
Met Hesse twice, once at anime expo once at Sonic Revolution. Both times he was super nice and gave me free stuff just for coming to his table.
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FORCES AND MANIA IN NINTENDO DIRECT
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Nintendo direct is covering mania and forces, get on it
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>>173819694
>>173811984
>he has absolutely no range

I'm going to keep posting because I can't actually believe someone is so stupid
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SONIC FORCES IS GETTING A SEGMENT IN NINTENDO DIRECT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqgF7eS8WlQ
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>>173820081
>>173820131
>Tune in
>Minecraft
Thanks anons
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>>173819694
>>173820168
Cal Arts
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>>173817828
Why was this deleted?
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They just showed Classic Sonic gameplay and a hint of the new character
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UM
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SWITCH VERSION FOOTAGE
NEW LEVEL
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>>173818743
I like the way that Sonic on the top looks. If you do a stream I'll probably miss it due to work but could you please do something cute involving Sonic and Honey?
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Did anyone catch the Classic Gameplay
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IT'S BUBSY BABY, THE NEW CHARACTER REVEALED
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Bubsy?
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New character is Squanchy
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>GREEN HILL ZONE
>AGAIN
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WHO IS THIS
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>>173819528
I take that, thanks!
You sayed females? What about males? Like Pickles
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WHO THE FUCK IS THAT?!
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>>173820589
NAKED BLAZE!?
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>>173820316
>implying you know what you're talking about
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>>173820584
>>173820589
Guys, it's create a character
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>>173820584
>>173820589
>>173820657
Is it actually Bubsy? Because that looks like Bubsy.
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>GREEN HILL ZONE WILL BE IN BOTH 2017 SONIC GAMES
THANK YOU MEMEMAN
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>>173819062
Voting for Honey
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>>173820584
>>173820589
>>173820657
Thought it was Blaze, but the head doesn't fit, plus no hair.
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>>173820671
>Blaze's male counterpart from Sonic's universe
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>>173820782
Switch version looking good
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>>173820228
>first look at Forces' Classic gameplay
YOOOOOOO
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>>173820657
i smell bullshit
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>>173820782
I wonder if this level is before Classic gets involved.

Kinda like what happened in Generations.
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>>173820694
WHO'S FUCKING LEAKING HERE
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>>173820932
Nintendo direct.
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cant believe they let nintendo show that LOL
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>>173820584
>>173820589
>>173820657
It looks like a Wolf kinda character or canine . It's got big ears and what looks to be like face fluff
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IT'S HAPPENING
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At least it's not another hedgehog?
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>>173821000
did you know too
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>>173820584
BUBSY THE FUCKING BOBCAT

THANK YOU IIZUKA!
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>>173821114
They don't have the rights though
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what if the new character is a CaC
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>>173821301
Sihoulette looks generic enough for it to be that
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Should've just used Shadow desu senpai
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>Classic Sonic runs in a straight line
>Green Hill Zone AGAIN but now there's sand

IT'S SHIT
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>a new ally
Guess it wasn't a monster of the week after all.
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>>173821389
I think the water is just gone from Green Hill.
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>>173821509
No, there's running sand where the waterfalls should be. You can see dust clouds at the bottom.
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How hated or loved will the new character be, /sthg/?
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>>173821114
It's obviously Blinx the Time Sweeper, there's obviously time bullshit going on, he's just the one to sweep it all up, and he's even public domain.
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>>173821645
Mixed reaction by fans.
Hated by literally everyone else.
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>>173821645
probably loved by the individual player ;)
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>>173821645
I think you will see a lot of people salty that they didn't use an existing character.
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>>173821645

depends

>if male, hedgehog
Kiddies will eat it up.

>if female
10/10 new waifu tfw she'll never sit on my face
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>>173820694
So Emerl 2.0?

>They die at the end just like Emerl
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>>173820782
What the fuck is this GHZ. It looks so bland and uninspired compared to Generations'. Yuck.
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>>173821793

It's definitely male.
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Has anyone else noticed we still don't have confirmation that Pontac & Graff are involved?
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>"IT ISN'T SONIC GENERATIONS 2"
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>>173821645
If the game is bad, the character will be hated, if the game is good the character will be loved.
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>>173820584
>>173820589
>>173820657
their really going to add a new character
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So, how long has it been since another character who isn't Sonic has been playable in a mainline game?
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>>173822051
Sonic 06
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>>173822051
06, assuming you're counting Werehog, Classic and plane minigames as Sonic.
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>>173821645
I already hate it. The Sonic cast is fucking ridiculously huge. There was no reason to add a new character.

Depending on who's writing it, it could be decent, but it doesn't matter, because the gaming press cucks are already eating it up and riding the Sonic Cycle bandwagon.
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>>173821987
>If the game exists, the character will be hated, if the game exists the game will be hated.

Fixed.
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>>173821936
Not to play devil's advocate, but we don't have confirmation of any writers. P&G could still be writing (either the story of the t
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>makes new character
>doesnt use huge cast of existing characters
fucking why
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>>173820584
>>173820589
>>173820657

Guys, I don't know how to say it, but... It might actually be Bubsy. Iizuka said that the new character would be "unexpected." What could be more unexpected than fucking BUBSY BOBCAT.
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Wasn't really able to tell much due to the short length, but I'm not feeling too optimistic about Classic Sonic's gameplay improving from Generations.
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>>173822294
Mo' characters Mo' money!
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>Boost pad right before a fucking loop
IT'S SHIT.
IT'S FUCKING SHIT.
JESUS CHRIST SONIC TEAM.
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>>173821645
Just give me a good reason for it's existence and I'll be ok
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>>173822294
Because Iizuka is a fucking hack.
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Forces is going to be the greatest Sonic game of all time. We get to play as Modern Sonic, Classic Sonic, and Bubsy the Bobcat. The perfect combination!
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>>173822263
he international dialogue)
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>>173820584
>>173820589
>>173820657
>>173821114
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What if after they reveal just who/what the new character in Forces is they announce they're also playable in Mania?
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>>173821936
>>173822263
Nakamura's writing, he posted a picture of the script (just the cover, duh).
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I take it that just crashed all of the Forces hype.
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>>173821389
>Inb4 for Sonic Generations 3 we get GHZ but without the hills.
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>>173820584
>>173820589
>>173820657
>>173821301

WE SONIC XENOVERSE MOTHER FUCKERSSS
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>>173822759
Is something on the side of his hip?
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He was just waiting to pounce for his big moment
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>>173822759
That's his tail.
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>>173822759
that cat design looks so generic, when people joke about bubsy i can see the resemblance.
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>>173821984
That's not GHZ. It's Sunset Hill Zone at Noon.

Noon Hill Zone.
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>>173822869
>it's Fang the Sniper without his hat
>third playstyle is family-friendly shooter
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>>173822658
We don't know if he's writing it or not. All we know is that he had a copy of the script, presumably not the original.
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>>173822759
Nack/Fang without his hat.
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>>173821984
>>173822450
Enjoy a 720p webm.
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>>173822963
>>173822998
That looks nothing like Fang.
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>>173822759
I don't know, looks like hair rather than face fluff to me.
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>>173822450
>didn't at least crib notes from Taxman
That's just embarrassing.
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>>173823087
That does not look good at all.
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>>173822759
Ok, so we know it's a male cat. Could he have something to do with Blaze? Fire seems to be a huge theme in the game. Perhaps this is Blaze's brother. She is a princess after all, and there are hints of Eggman Nega's involvement.
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>yfw the new playable character is Luigi using a Super/Lucky Bell?
>yfw Year of Luigi 2?
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>Boost pads are back

FUCK

OFF
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>>173813096
b-but le wacky faces?
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Who'd have thought I'd ever have a chance to post this shit again
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>>173823165
nahhhh i think it's a new OC.
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>>173811517
Not even the worst level in Sonic 1. Fucking Marble zone is a HUGE juxtaposition from Green Hill and I have no idea why it's the 2nd level.
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>alright team, how do we make GHZ look ruined?
>just replace the water with sand bro
>what about the whole vibrant green palette and whatnot
>what about it
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Funny, nobody believed the people who said OCs were cancer, that they'd kill Sonic. Look where we are now
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>>173822759
I do not think I'm gonna like this.
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>>173823231
>Boost pad placed right in front of a loop again

FUCK

OFF

EVEN

HARDER
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>>173823087
This actually really gives me hope for the future of Switch hardware wise, I assume this is the switch version but it looks good.
Senran Kagura Switch stole the fucking show though
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>>173823087
Why make a Green Hill Zone that kind of looks inferior to the one from 6 years ago.
WHY GREEN HILL ZONE AGAIN.

I mean, maybe it's Sonic from Green Hill before he gets taken away to Modern Sonic land, but still it makes no sense why it looks pretty damn bland.
Although, the background of Forces away from the city in Modern had the same kind of bland look.
I dunno man.
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>>173823210
>yfw Year of Luigi 2?
BEST BROTHER WINS AGAIN
GET HYPE STAY HYPE
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>New character is just a customizable OC
>SEGA respawns the golden age of Sonic OC making
>OC has to play an important role in the story to make fans feel important
WHAT IS GOING ONNNNN
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>wait if that character is the new gameplay style..isn't a super speed hedgehog...

WE'RE FINALLY GOING SLOW BOYS
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>>173823087
>it's a straight line
>springs are automatic
>that fucking barrage of chompers across a long bridge like a romhack designed by a 12-year-old
>boost pad right before a loop like we're fucking idiots

It's shit, guys. Sonic is dead.
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>>173823505
This is why OCshitters need to be driven out of the fandom, this is where it's gotten us
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>>173823163
It's a Sonic game, that's how it's supposed to look.
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>>173821646
>blinx the time sweeper
I'm so fucking surprised someone remembers him
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>>173823505

Bad future

Deviantart Wins
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>>173823087
Visual representation of my hype for Forces.

Thank fuck we have Mania or I'd just off myself now.
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>>173823505
This is EXACTLY what the aim is.
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>>173823516
>yfw new character adopts Werehog style
>yfw Suplexing Giant Eggman robots
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>>173820782
nigga this shit looks like Little Big Planet
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It's not confirmed make your own character.
But holy fuck do I not want it to be.

Maybe it's Sonic's redesign for the new age.
That looks like a cat.
Is there any way to make that design look like Sonic?
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>>173823463
>WHY GREEN HILL ZONE AGAIN.

It's the only level people care about.

>>173823641
Sonic is just a DA rip off of Mario, it's always won.
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Post yfw Forces is shit
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Just accept fate, it's going to be a new character. They can't stop themselves with mainline games (though Generations or Heroes didn't).
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>>173823087
It sounds like they went into this with Lost World on their minds.
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>>173813849
>Dr. Eggman took over 99% of the world
How the shit did this happen? Did Shadow catch a fever and tell Sonic best of luck?
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>>173823775
BUT WHO IS IT?!
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>>173823815
Sonic wasn't around for some reason, and nobody else can stop Eggman
>>173823463
Sonic without Green Hill is like Mario without Goombas. It doesn't feel right without it
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>>173823775
I don't know why everyone is freaking out, they always introduce a main character every anniversary game.
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>>173823770
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>>173823836
Xenoverse without the online
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>>173823815
"The reason why Eggman takes over so much of the world is because of “a new power” that his obtains, resulting in his army controlling that much of the world. However, this power is also what makes Classic Sonic appear."

Literally the exact same post.
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>>173823775
>though Generations
Time Eater
>or heroes didn't
Chaotix are considered new characters for that game.
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>>173823770
1/3 of the game was pretty much just confirmed to be.

It looks like zero improvements were made to Classic Sonic from Generations.
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>>173823815
This is making that whole "Forces is after Chronicles" thing a bit more valid. Even if that cant be the case, because of reasons.
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OH MY FUCKING GOD I KNOW WHO IT IS
FAMITSU JUST CONFIRMED BOOM SONIC IS NOT IN IT
ITS THE FAMITSU MASCOT
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>they say that this game will have it's funny moments
>bobsy looks like the character that can laugh in zetsubou
Wake me up
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>>173823087
And this is a bit pointless but here's a webm of Bubsy's reveal.
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>>173823770
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>>173823761
Let's devil's advocate a bit.

Why would it being a player-created character make it shit?

What if it plays decently, or ends up being Adventure gameplay?
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>>173813849
>“This time, Sonic is fighting an Eggman who has nearly taken over the world.”
oh no...
ROBOTNIK NEGA
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This is legit following the Sonic Cycle meme
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Please kill Sonic. That's all I ask. Sonic desperately needs to go up in flames.

Fuck this.
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>>173823725
>Werehog won't be a guest star in Arms
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I want this new character to be fujobait so bad.
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>>173824005
Is that a long tail in the back?
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>>173818743
How lewd are we talkin' here?
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>>173824082
Or at the very least, cancel Forces and stick to Mania style stuff for the rest of the franchise's lifespan
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>>173823770
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>>173824005
>Watch reveal
>For some reason I just image Bubsy, a dead character that hasn't been seen or notable in years, which is kinda weird
>Turns out everyone else did too
What a fucking world we live in.
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>>173823815
>Did Shadow catch a fever
That would actually be pretty funny. Just imagine a sick Shadow laying in bed on the Ark cursing Eggman.
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>>173820316
Buzz Word
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>>173820947
That's a pretty neat idea. Game immediately boots into Classic going through GHZ as normal and then shit starts warping into the level.
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>The more Forces gets revealed, the more garbage it looks.
It's going to be a complete blunder.
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>>173824291
ol' pal nibroc
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>>173823440
I swear to god Takaki better give us a real game.

>>173823770
This is why you don't get too hyped for things.
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>>173823165
Inb4 blaze wants to fuck her brother
ONI SAMAAAAA~
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>yfw 3rd Character is a Furry Megaman
>The Eggman who takes over the world is from Worlds Collide
>Sonic Forces is just a game adaptation of Worlds Collide
>>173824291
Needs this on his back
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>>173824261
But the top one looks better.
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Screenshots of an alpha build of the Switch version are here.
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>>173824201
No. Sonic as a whole needs to die. All of it.
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>>173820782
Part of me's hoping that this was more of a test stage than a stage that's actually gonna be in the game.

I can only run through green hill zone so many times before I blow my brains out.
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>>173824079
We're back on track
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>yfw Sonic Runners Adventure is less gameplay and more roulette wheels
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>tfw everyone's dissing Forces but you're still hyped
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>>173824351
I told people it'd be the next 06 in terms of tryhard edgy garbage when it was announced but nobody fucking believed me
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>>173823770
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>>173823087
>>173824261
This does not look like something that's supposed to come out this year.
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>>173824514
>all these baby niggas crying about non-problems
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>>173824062
Just the media backlash to it.
>People have been making OC's people want to fuck
>Admittedly, Sonic has seen finer days, everyone knows since the arrival of 3D and a overly large cast, Sega has been trying to recapture the former glory. It turns out though, that their new foray has done the complete opposite, attracting furries and OC's to add to the characters roster. If anything like Freedom Planet is to suggest, maybe you should leave it to the fans.
>Patricia Hermendez

If it plays Adventure way, why didn't they just put Adventure Sonic in it?

Also, it might not be an OC. I did some extensive pixel placing.
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>>173824507
Wow. Practically to a T.
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>>173823770
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613th for Cerberus Rose
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>>173824341
>game starts with Classic Sonic and Tails warping into GHZ right from the end of Generations
>then they get warped right into Forces

That'd be a shit day for Classic.
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>>173824415
Silver is gonna get cucked by him isn't he?
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>>173824471
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>>173822125
Immediately what I thought of
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>>173824478
Mania looks fine. Jettison everything but Classic and stick to that. People like Classic, it doesn't have the stigma that modern does. Just keep making these every year or so. Milk that nostalgia, because that's all Sonic is good for.

They haven't played it safe enough, they're taking too many risks with Forces
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>>173824507
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>>173824291
Holy shit that was fast
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>>173824582
naw thats not shadow
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>>173824514
shut up, shill. nobody fucking likes this game.
>>
Man, a lot of people in a lot of different places suddenly talking about making your own character in Sonic Forces as thought that's a rumour that's been around for a while? Did I miss that one or what?
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>>173813849
>Sonic Boom Sonic is NOT in the game
How will the Boomfags recover. There are Boomfags, right? Christ, could you imagine being a fan of RoL?
>>
I don't think the classic stage yhey showed is finished yet. Looks too different from the polish of the modern level we first saw.
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>>173824519
It's not even tryhard edgy, just that Eggman isn't a fucking saturday morning cartoon blunder of a villain anymore.
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>>173824693
If you don't give a shit then why did you respond.
Looks like you're in a cycle of your own.
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>All these people complaining about a fucking boost pad before a loop.

Guys, I don't get it either but you don't see me making a big deal about it.
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>>173823770
Got all hyped for nothing.
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>>173824720
It's been one of those "haha imagine if they had it where you create your own Sonic OC to join the resistance" to "holy shit, you might be making your own Sonic OC"
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>>173823087
I think of the things I've seen in this I like, Sonic's running animation, and I like that they used his CD spring bounce. Other than that I hope this is more of a short segment or a test stage or something. I'm sick of running through green hill zone (and this seems like such an obvious downgrade from generations.
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>>173824771
>Eggman isn't a fucking saturday morning cartoon blunder of a villain anymore.

Really?

Because it seems like that has been his dominant personality since Unleashed.
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>>173824657
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>>173824720
we had it in the back of our minds
>what hasnt sonic team done yet
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>>173824771
This attempt at making him look serious comes off as pathetic at best
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>>173824771
Anon you're going to reverse everything Eggman has done by the end of the first zone, everything after will be happy go lucky Saturday morning cartoon time.
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>>173824582
And we care about media backlash suddenly why now? After everything following Boom and LW? Sonic's going to be shit on regardless.
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>>173824719
Fuck you I do.
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>>173824808
I'm not complaining yet but if I see 2 boost pads near each other like that chain from Oil Desert I'm getting my gun. Literally no one can defend that bullshit.
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>>173823770
It fucking hurts.

And now to wait for the zealots calling everyone entitled and bashing on the fanbase.
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>>173824857
He's always been a goofy motherfucker who can't be taken super seriously. That's his thing, being a joke and being overshadowed by better, more competent villains and monsters. Having him take over the world is retarded, because he's not that good at what he does
>>173824920
I sure hope so, because at least the most retarded part of the game's ideas would be gone by then
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>>173823770
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>>173824859
Famitsu made it sounds like Sonic Team is working on all version of the game with SoE handling the PC port.
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>>173824662
Maybe I didn't make it clear. See >>173824719.

I hate Sonic in general. He was never good, and everyone here that likes him is a shill.

trying to play an IGN representative here, how's my performance?
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>>173823087
The running animation looks nice, that's all I'm gonna say though
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>>173823770
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>>173823770
I accept it. Mania when?
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>>173824762
Thing is, that looks like the first level or so. It looks incredibly unfinished and I have to wonder how unfinished the other levels are if THAT is what they wanted to show off.

I really think Forces is getting delayed. Project 2018 here we come!
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>>173824808
Context is important. It, combined with watching how Classic moves and runs in the webm convinces me that he plays like he did in Generations, and he played like sluggish, unresponsive garbage there.
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>tfw Frontal Foreskin Forces will put the Sonic cycle back on full swing
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>>173825038
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>>173824646
Remember when I said your future's gonna be great 5 minutes ago?
...well...
>>
They should just cancel Forces. It's obviously going to be shit, and everyone just wants Mania.
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>>173824987
See >>173825068. I was baiting, bro. Sorry.
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Now we await for E3 to see the fate of Sonic Forces.
I dont care about how the character looks
I want to know if its """"new""" gameplay is good or not.
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At least we can wait for Adventure 3 again
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>>173825190
So are these yellow or white?
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Ask me again why Classic Sonic comes back again?
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>>173825289
Yup. You guys wait for SA3, I'm waiting for Generations 2, which is what they should've done in the first place. Seriously, all you need for this franchise is Mania for 2D, Generations sequels for 3D, and that's it
>>
It's like, five seconds of footage. If I'd like to have an actual trailer to get a better idea of the game.
>>
But I liked Classic Sonic's gameplay in Generations.
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>>173825375
Supposedly Eggman summoned him.
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https://twitter.com/Babylonian/status/852298423931854848

Well to those saying Silver would be in the game, there ya go.
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>>173825143
It's not going to get delayed. Visuals gradually get better over time as they are refined. See: Crash remasters. Looked pretty bad back when it was first shown but a lot of it is getting ironed out with time.
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>Classic
>Modern
>new character is obviously a doggo to fill in for the werehog gameplay
JUST
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I don't even know what Sonic Team is doing anymore.

Like, I get Boost, even if I'm not a fan, but it works and it's safe.

But what the actual fuck is going on in >>173823087
This just looks majorly embarrassing next to Mania.
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>>173825375
Insurance for if people hate the new gameplay, maybe?

Won't really work because Mania blows it out of the water.
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So we Xenoverse Forces now?
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>>173825375
How else would the game sell?
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>>173825190
>Cyclops eggmech

So eggman is expanding his mass-produced division? I wonder if robots like the Crab Chasers from Colors could return.
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>>173825454
oh boy i can see Sonic Friends on the sidelines again or in the artwork being on the sidelines!
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>>173825289
>we
Dumb Adventurecuck.
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>>173825454
No fucking way!
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>>173825409
We're getting Generations 2, but they managed to fuck that up.
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>Morio Kishimoto is the director of Sonic Forces. He designed Secret Rings, Black Knight, and Sonic Colors. He also directed Sonic Lost World.
>>
Getting the feeling pretty much everywhere that no one is happy with what they saw.
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>>173825524
What, did you expect them to do anything? Why would they, Sonic can do just fine on his own, or with Classic by his side
>>173825567
If only. It should've just been like Generations 1, but with new levels, that's it. That's all you needed
>>
>Show another Green Hill stage that looks really bare bones
>Show that Classic sonic hasn't changed
>Show boost pad before loop
>Show donut steel character.
All according to keikaku. Have fun competing with Odyssey, Hedgehog.
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>>173825454
>Silver can time travel
>decides not to stop Eggman or at least warn people before he wages war
>>
Everyone's being very quick to attack the Classic Sonic gameplay for how basic Green Hill looks. Did you notice the sand in the background? Maybe it's an apocalyptic version of Green Hill that likely serves as an introduction stage to defy expectations later? Perhaps it's intentionally artificial looking and jarring because it's just some replication or construct? It's like you guys want to hate this game.
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>>173825508
>comic characters
Dark Enerjak should be Goku Negro or just Fused Zamas
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>>173825501
Its one of the Classic Shadows or other Characters in their concept forms
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>>173825673
>It's like you guys want to hate this game
No shit. Where do you think you are? /v/, and by extension /vg/, has always been full of kneejerk retards.
>>
I noticed something about the classic gameplay, the level looks very bland yes but also very... modular.

Level creator confirm?
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tfw
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>>173825289
I'm gonna wait for the sweet embrace of death. That'll come MUCH sooner.
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>>173825654
Forces is going to outsell Odyssey by the single virtue of being not exclusive to an already dying system.
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>>173825626
The game is literally doomed.
>>
So, we have three options:

>New character
>Custom character
>Bubsy

Which is it? I'm saying Kenny the Cat
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>>173825673
I don't give a fuck about Green Hill. The gameplay does not look good for Classic Sonic.
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>when you think how chaotic this board would be if we never heard about a third gameplay style/third character and we just seen Green hill zone for the umpteenth time this direct
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>>173825654
Mario games are bland are are mostly rehashes upon rehashes.
but thats not to say sonic hasnt done it
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>>173825673
>It's like you guys want to hate this game
Hating things is cooler than liking things. It makes it look like you've got high standards and are therefore better.
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>Morio Kishimoto is the director of Sonic Forces. He designed Secret Rings, Black Knight, and Sonic Colors. He also directed Sonic Lost World.
>Classic Gameplay already looks like complete ass.
>New character is already being associated with Bubsy and prepped to get smashed with bad rep.

No, fuck this. I'm out. I'm so fucking out.
I'm done with it. Fuck this shit. 3 years of hype and information leaking just got blasted out of the water in less than a fucking minute. I'm fucking done.

Fuck this god forsaken franchise. This is literally the worst timeline. The timeline where not even the villain wins.

For what fucking purpose SEGA? FOR WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE?!?
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>>173825654
>buys switch just for one game $360
>can buy shit game for only $60
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>>173825773
Anon I'm on /sthg/ side but How can Sonic Forces outsell Odyssey when we're going to pirate it on PC?
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>>173825773
>dying system.
Nice meme. How do I upvote?
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>>173823087
There are pyramids in the background at the very beginning of the webm. And those dont look like Green Hill totems. Hmm..
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>>173825673
>Maybe it looks like shit on purpose
I sure hope so but fuck why would you show that like this?
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>>173823087
>Switch trailer
No wonder it looks like shit
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>>173825919
Don't let the metaphorical door hit you on the ass on the way out.
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>>173825809
New custom Bubsy. Create your own unique Bubsy.
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>>173825673
>He has to come up with this elaborate of a backstory to justify this atrocious art-style.
Don't kid yourself, anon. Deep down you know exactly what this is. Thankfully it'll only last one act probably before Classic Sonic gets thrown into the future.
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>>173820228
We got not only Classic gameplay, but a sneakpeak at the 3rd character!
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>>173825773
Not likely at all, Mario will always beat Sonic, even people like Yuji Naka and Iizuka agree Mario is better
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>>173825919
They should've not made a new modern game. Just put out Mania and be done with it. Maybe emerge in another 2 or 3 years to make a sequel to it. Just make everything CLassic. Shitcan all of Boom, stick to Classic games, there, I saved Sonic
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>>173825454
>Silver could've had a chance to redeem himself
>nah, make him a cheerleader like everyone else
I don't even like the fucker but that's retarded.
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>>173825673
>Maybe
>Perhaps
You have no fucking idea how much I wanted this to kick ass, you really don't know nigger. And I was like that at first, saying that perhaps they are just showing very little and things will make sense later and take a turn for the better, and I kept waiting for them to make it clear that they know what they're doing and to blow everything out of the water, because again, I really want this to succeed, but instead every thing they show just makes it worse. At some point people are going to have to draw the line, you know?
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>>173825809
I genuinely hope it's Bubsy.
I'm not even kidding.
I just think it'd be so perfect for this meme timeline we live in.
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>>173825919
But don't you get it?
THIS is what everyone of you wanted.
Sonic, Sonic, and only SONIC!
YOU ONLY WANTED SONIC, YOU NEVER WANTED TOO MUCH EDGINESS AND SERIOUSNESS. NOT EVEN STORY, YOU CARED FOR GAMEPLAY AND NOTHING MORE.
HERE WE ARE DELIVERING WHAT YOU ALWAYS WANTED, AND YOU WILL ALWAYS LIKE IT. BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS LIKE IT AFTER ALL RIGHT?
WE WILL FOREVER DELIVER WHAT YOU ALL ALWAYS WANTED. MORE 2D, MAYBE SOME SERIOUS PART BUT WITHOUT THE EDGY PART, ONLY SONIC WITH VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS. AND YOU WILL HAVE IT FOREVER.
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>>173825702
but Terios looked exactly like Sonic

this guy looking like he has Blaze's haircut
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>>173823087
>bouncepad hidden the ground bounces Sonic straight up ignoring any semblance of momentum
Dropped.
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>>173825951
All jokes aside there's a couple games I want on the switch. I'd probably get one before I got a PS4 or Xbox.
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>>173826235
Think about the other concept characters.
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>>173825673
>Maybe it's an apocalyptic version of Green Hill
Other than the lack of water in place of sand, it's not that.
>Maybe it looks that way on purpose!
Shit gameplay is shit gameplay regardless if it's meant to ruse you or not. And I can assure you it's not. You're delusional of you think otherwise.
>It's like you guys want to hate this game.
I don't want to hate it. It's probably be acceptable, and overall decent. But we needed better than decent after the shit we've been fed for 6 years. For all that talk about improving the quality of Sonic games, and taking more time in development, it doesn't look like ANY of it paid off. The gameplay trailers of Generations had WAY more interesting shit going on in them.
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>>173825773
how much did Adventure 2+port and Sunshine sold again?
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>>173825919
You know what, if you're done then shove off already.

Every single time I think a Sonic game looks interesting and makes me want to play it, there's people like you decrying everything like it's fact that everything is awful, Sonic is dead, and so forth and so forth. It's repetitive. It's childish. It's been done so much that I wonder how many people are going to be posting copypastas again within the week.

Yeah, Forces doesn't look exactly great, but you just throw people under the bus because they don't meet your expectations? A fucking plague on you all, you're a godawful fanbase that freaks out over the smallest things and ruins everything with your own baggage and bullshit.
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>>173826160
To be honest I wanted just Blue Knuckles, Flying Fox Sonic, Red Sonic, Sonic Edge, and Purple female Sonic. Those are the only ones that really matter because they are pretty much Sonic with a slight difference here and there.
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>tfw new character has best gameplay
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>>173826374
An entire 1/3rd of the gameplay was just shown to be completely railroader trash and your first reaction is "It's not that bad!"???
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>all these fags freaking out over nothing
>still pretty hyped
>I'll be having fun while they're literally screaming at their monitors
Is this bliss?
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>>173826443
>Werehog wasn't bad
>Just bad in a sonic game
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Hopefully this is the year people turn on classic Sonic for good.
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>Any hype for Forces completely destroyed in like a 30 second segment on a Nintendo Direct
Damn Sega you crazy
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>>173824720
Apparently, someone privately leaked details about both this and Mania before the party, and it spread from there.
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>>173826506
Man you've seen like less than 10 seconds of the first stage of Classic and less than 50 seconds of the first stage of Sonic and the entire game is railroad trash to you because they didn't show off alternative routes they've confirmed are in the game?

Stop being a kneejerking jackass like the rest of the net.
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>>173826583
same
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>>173826583
mah nigga. Wont let them kill my hype.
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>>173826506
It wasn't shown to be shit, fag.
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>>173826583
I guess, I only cared for Mania anyway
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>>173826583
These guys really need to chill out.
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>>173801636

It overstreamlined Secret Rings's skill system to a point where it's a janky afterthought instead of a flexible system that lends itself to customization and inventive solutions to certain challenges
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>>173826583
>post yfw
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>>173826583
Right here with ya man. I'll decide how I feel once I see more than 3seconds of footage.
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>>173826612
More likely people will be fed up with Modern and demand that everything be Classic, and Sega will do just that
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>>173826634
>No aerial momentum.
>Railroaded loops.
>Loss of control due to boost pads.
Unless you are going to outright say that this first level is just a weird coincidence and none of the other levels will have similar physics then yes, this is a railroader.
>>
At best forces is going to be a polished decent game.

Anyone expecting 06 or Boom levels of bad is insane.
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>>173826610
The werehog wasn't bad :^)...well the Wii/PS2 was pretty meh combat wise
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>>173826583
>>173826751
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>>173826583
>mfw completely fucking mind boggled they are adding an OC and making him important to the story
>New gameplay style that isnt just LMAO 2.5D hopefully
>might be into Sonic again
If its Werehog gameplay but upgraded im gonna nut
>>
Why is Sonic Colors being lumped in with bad again? I get that it isn't perfect and people now see the faults in a lot of the gimmicky extra stages that mostly serve as filler, but talk about a turnabout.

>>173826801
So Sonic Generations' Classic Sonic then?
>>
>>173826617
It was all part of Nintendo's plan.
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>>173826918
>Why is Sonic Colors being lumped in with bad again?
Because no one played it so no one knows it's actually good.
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>Sees the WebM of Classic Sonic's gameplay
>Sees the state of these posts

Calm. Down. You. Autists. You idiots are freaking out, screeching "SONIC CYCLE, SONIC IS DEAD" & all other bullshit over a 10 second clip? And why? Because there was a boost pad before a loop? Jesus Christ I'm not stoked about Classic's gameplay either, but you guys are acting exactly like the type of Sonic fans people mock. Get a fucking grip.
>>
>new thread soon
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>>173826583
I'm not even freaking out, just concerned with just a BIT of optimism since I even enjoyed Lost World. Green Hill Zone shouldn't be that fucking straight and shallow though.
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734738
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734738
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734738

Out of curiosity I need to know.
>>
I got a feeling the social media will address this, they usually do when a shitstorm ensues
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>173826603
tride a translator thing, this is what i got


People talking
___ ___ 0
Risz conscious ...
Poogyuji Temple
Giveaway A A Lima ...
Drag
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>>173826612
Nope. Not with Mania happening.
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>>173826982
>Because there was a boost pad before a loop?
Yes.
It shows Sonic Team still haven't learned anything.

Your argument of getting mad over a 10 second clip is invalid, when a 10 second clip of Mania looks infinitely better than Forces.
>>
>>173827134
Next Thread Better have these results.....and be called Bubsy Edition
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>>173827192
Mania is a rom hack
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>>173827163
What shitstorm? The one some random general on 4chan had?
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>>173827221
The Classic gameplay is inferior to Classics Mania gameplay yes, but the fact that people are dismissing an entire game despite the other 2 gameplay styles (one that has yet to be revealed) is fucking retarded.
>>
>>173826982
The hidden bouncepad showing that there is no actual momentum is more concerning.
>>
>>173827276
Still looks better than Sonic Forces, and hopefully will convince Sega to stick to Classic
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>>173826982
Well, me personally, I'm not calling it dead, it's just that considering Sonic Team's track record, any sign that it may be amiss is deeply troubling.

The truth of the matter is, Generations looked better, 10 seconds of a game made nearly 5 years ago looks better than this one.

That's bad, that's really bad. No-one here is saying it's 06 or even Sonic 4 levels of bad, but this isn't exactly going to excite anyone.
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>Classic Sonic defence force rolls in
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>>173827375
Hopefully it convinces fans to pirate it if its over $5
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>All this bitching

This is it. This is what I come here for.
>>
>>173827354
Sonic Generations didn't exactly have good Classic Sonic momentum either. Infact his air momentum was absolutely sluggish if you weren't abusing the everliving shit out of Spin Dashes.

It looks like they're basically following Sonic Generations' design in that regard while Modern Sonic is sticking more to Colors.
>>
>what is a beta/demo version of an unfinished game that doesn't come out for around 7 months
>>
silver is going to be ins forces as an npc
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/04/12/silver-will-be-in-sonic-forces/
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>>173827423
No shit early footage in a new engine looks worse than a completed project in an engine they had experience with. Fucking use your brain.
>>
>>173827507
NU
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>>173826982
You know, this actually reminds me of when Sonic 4 Episode 1 was first shown off and how everyone called out shit in these few seconds.
>>
>>173823087
Why do all of the enemies look so basic? Are they trying to prove a point to everyone who thought Lost World's art style was too simple?
>>
>>173827552
>Not even slightly related to the recent news
God you newfags are insufferable
>>
>>173827517
Shush, you! I wanna see them bitch some more.
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I like Sonic because I press a button and he does stuff on the screen. I didn't mind it much with Sonic 4 Ep. 2, so I'll probably not mind it here.

...Wouldn't be surprised if Classic Sonic is done by Dimps in this game though lol.
>>
>>173827590
I'm just glad it doesn't have Gens ugly rock texture but in general green hill is an ugly zone.
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>>173827572
And surprise, it ended up being complete shit.
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GUESS THIS MEANS BOOM IS DEAD
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>>173826160
More like Sonic, Sonic and your own OC, this is worrying
>>
>>173827354
I agree that it's concerning, but the people shouting Sonic Cycle & all other BS is what annoys me.

>>173827423
>No-one here is saying it's 06 levels

I never said people were saying. I'm saying that some people (like the ones saying how they're done with this franchise) are over-reacting.
>>
fire up those sketchpads boys
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>>173827798
>Sticks makes cameo in Forces
>Sticks is always seen with the OC
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>>173827516
I need to give a Classic another spin in Generations again.

I think why I'm so unhappy is that it looked straight out of Lost World's bad 2D gameplay with that momentum.
>>
>>173827572
It actually turned out to be underwhelming as shit tho
>>
>>173827516
>>173828109
It's kinda lame because I was hoping that them advertising their new engine meant they might have more momentum flexibility. Hell I wouldn't mind if Boost sonic followed momentum based physics too. But Sega doesn't listen to me.
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>>173827798
REJOICE
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>>173827757
>>173828613
I just realized how I probably came off as defending Sonic 4, I wasn't. I was trying to say people did the same shit to Sonic 4 & turned out right.
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>yfw custom character that plays like Sonic Adventure
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>>173828071
YES

YES

i want sticks
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>>173826303
Blazblue when?
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>>173829567
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>>173824417
>TFW we'll never get Worlds Collide the game
>TFW we'll never get an awesome soundtrack by Capcom AND Sega
>TFW we'll never see Eggman & Wily being bros in HD
>TFW we'll never see Rock & Sonic being bros in HD
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>>173831869
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>>173831869
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>Nay sayers
>Game's not even out yet
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>>173833051
Shut up iizuka you're a hack!!!!!!!
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>>173833051
Iizuka I don't care if you hate them or not but I better be able to make my Archie waifus in your god damn game
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>>173833978
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>>173834215
>>173833869
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>>173833978
post it in the other thread

it's just amy in her swimsuit, so no trouble with Swatbots
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