/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

>>173693118
poor OP needs a break

>>173693326
no

>dyson sphere
>not swarm

What sort of memery is this

>>173693413
Yes.

>create hivemind race
>remember that I rped a hivemind race called "the worm" back in like April 2016
>already started a game with new hivemind race

Fug

>>173693550
perhaps

>>173693576
>the worm

someone posted a mod for a hivemind race which looked like a bunch of worms forming a single organism, it looked pretty good

>>173693668
This one?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=902526212
I really wish this guy would release just the portraits, I'm not all that keen on adding someone else's empires to my game.

>>173693668
I was using that one Fungoid portrait that looks like a mammalian creature was subsumed by a fungus.

welp posted in ded thred

I don't understand this faction system.

If I'm, say, fanatic militarist, and there's a pacifist faction in my empire. If I embrace it I'll eventually change my entire empire ethos to pacifist? Or if I ignore them and they get uppity/gain support they'll overthrow me without my knowledge? For what purpose? Casuals not autistic enough to stick to their playstyle throughout all game?

>>173694250
>>173694172
It will change your governing ethos to pacifist, probably dropping one other or one point out of another ethos. It'll also really please the pops in that faction.
Then as your governing ethos things that modify drift towards it will drift towards pacifist. Doesn't automatically transform them though.

They get uppity if you do things that piss them off, they won't be upset by you just staying as you are, but they won't be happy either.

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>no elf hair guy shillpost shitting this thread up yet

>become robots
>all that happens is spirit fags give me a -60 modifier for being 'soulless machines'
>spirit fallen empire contacts me and says something about muh souls being gone forever
While I'm reeeeeeing about the shitty portrait, this is pretty comfy for my isolationist robutt rp run.

>>173694250
Also consider that unlike real life, the opposite applies in Stellaris.
Lots of war makes people militarist, while being at peace makes people pacifist.

>>173694331
Well you'll be happy once paradicks introduces the "sythentic portraits" DLC, which will be 8 dollars because the plantoid DLC was 8 dollars.

>wanted to start a game 3 hours ago
>can't stop shitposting

Is this hell?

>>173694396
>>173694317
Ah well. Here's hoping that Paradox expands this system.

protip: they won't

>>173694319

american neets are in bed rite now

>>173694440
Sure I will, a free DLC with synthetic portraits!

>>173694561
>paradox
>FLC

Maybe for "Yule".

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>>173694319
Just you wait, faggot.

>>173694985

Post all of these.

The new music is nice 2bh

>>173694929
Or international women's day.

>>173695349
They would just add traits like "matriarchal" and "patriarchal" with matriarchal societies getting lots of stuff and patriarchal only getting +5 to army damage

>>173694929
Any DLC is free, anon.

I've tried and tried at this game but I just fail every time. My best so far was in 2262 I had a 1.9k fleet using 34/34 of my power, -17 energy/month and only 47 minerals a month. This is on 5 planets with another 2 fully developed in one sector.

What am I doing wrong? I struggle in the early game. I don't know when I should be building colonies, what I should do with my starting planet, etc.

>>173695442
>+5% army damage
>+5% minerals
>-50% happiness
>-50% xeno happiness
>-100% research speed

>>173695442
>patriarchy
>+5% army damage
>-5% research
>+5 reaction from other patriachies

>matriachy
>+5% research
>+1 influence per month

Small enough bonuses to be a cunt but still get away with it.

Haven't played yet, so genuinely wondering here - why can't Hive Mind races pursue Psionic Ascension?

>>173696173
Because it's a half-assed feature made by wiz in his spare time.

>>173696173
Reasons.

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>be fanatical purifers
>all aliens form defensive pacts on sight
>meet my pacifist xenophobic mirror version that I played before
>the biggest blob around
>they declare war on me with cede all of my planets
>their fleet power is 4x mine an they bring allies with some more
>mfw

>>173696479
>cucked by yourself

>>173693910
you can do so easily
just copy out those files from the mod

>end of cycle
what is this

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>>173696868
At last they unite all my people under one banner.
>wonder if my purifiers would start purging them even if they are named the same and have the same portrait

>>173696979
Do it.
It's about time you ended things anyway, right?

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>>173693326
He got his break when someone else made the last thread, unless he turned off his namefag for whatever reason

GET BACK TO WORK

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>>173695880
It's a balancing act that only becomes more precarious as you get further into the game. You need to juggle technological progress with military might and economic prosperity. At the beginning of the game you are trying to develop the foundation for the rest of the game. To that end you should be focusing less on military expansion and instead of developing your planets' infrastructure and building mining platforms wherever you can.

Resources > Science > Military > Planets

The very first thing you should do is spam mining stations and build up reactors. Pick the upgrade techs for those buildings first, before you start worrying about military strength. In the beginning of the game it's very unlikely that you will face a serious military threat, so aside from maybe 10-15 corvettes (for pirates) you really don't need a military until you've colonized your third or fourth planet. By that point you should have plenty of mineral/energy production. Then you spend your surplus resources on developing either your military or science output, depending on your circumstances. Nearby empire that has valuable resources? Ramp up your military and prepare for war. Sort of isolated in your arm of the galaxy? Colonize everything possible

so on and so forth

>pick evolutionary mastery ascension perk
>can now gene mod xenos to be "repugnant"
Unnecessary cruelty.

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>>173695325

>>173697009
They would, they're not the same species.
You'd need to edit the save file to make it so.

What are the actual resource production bonuses of happiness? I have 80% happiness giving 10% bonus to science, food, energy and 75% happiness giving 4% bonus. This is same planet, same species, different faction. Seems to be at odds what I find with google.

>Same system has both a First League penal colony and an asteroid that used to be First League smugglers base.
Guess they liked to live dangerously.

>>173697472
You get 2.5% productivity for every 10% happiness.

Is this a general for sins of the solar empire?

>>173697646
But that's not true. I said it bit wrong but I get 10% bonus for 80% happiness and 2,5% (not 4% like I said) for 75%. Going from 75% to 80% increases the bonus from 2,5% to 10%.

>>173697686
yes

Reading the wiki, it says I can dip my toe into psionics if I'm either a spiritualist, or a materialist with the right type of scientist. Does that mean Psionics is out the window for all other ethics?

>>173697590
You know, hiding in plain sight and all that.

>>173697886
With utopia, only spiritualists can get psionic tech. There's no way around.

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>>173695325

>>173697035
is it a mod?

>>173698065
They removed the chance of getting psionic expertise randomly through experience level up?

>>173698478
No, it's Utopia and you should totally say yes.

>>173698482
You can get psionic expertise, but it doesn't do anything. If you're not spiritualist, the technology weight is multiplied by 0.

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>7 science ships flying around giving me an extra 33% science on after each world survey.
>Robot workforce needs no food. Ignore energy tiles and just have them mass mine planets then sell the minerals to make up for energy deficit.
>Miles ahead of everyone else in tech and unity because all I have is three little planets
>Everyone in the cosmos in 'inferior' to me.

They absolutely need to nerf this

>>173698568
How are you supposed to win

>>173698846
With the tech advantage you got during those 50 years and Slaanesh being distracted by the rest of the galaxy.

>>173698846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI-HvPR37w4
You're not

I'm confused about embracing factions in Stellaris. I've got all the requirements for influence and support, except I'm a Fanatic Materialist, and it says I can't be that. But that's a government ethic so how would I change that? Is it even possible to embrace them?

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These were my first race I ever played, just updated them for Utopia

>>173699054
You can't embrace materialism when you're already fanatic materialist.

>>173699103
I've always wondered if that portait is supposed to be some kind of turtoise?

>>173699276
No that's another portrait. It's just a lizard with mandibles.

>reading about the new endgame crisis
wew this is spicy.

>>173698754
>sell minerals to make up for energy deficit
What is your deficit? I'd imagine it's a huge one thanks to all the robots

These Stellaris ships would be so fucked if someone came at them from beneath.

>>173699496
>tfw I still have yet to play far enough to get a crisis
This time for real guys I swear

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Give me ideas for Stellaris DLC that are totally overpriced and not worth it, but you really want anyway.

>Mineral-based races - we got plant fuckers, why not amalgamations of coral and muscle, or Silicoids, or Tholians?
>Options to customize your race even further so that they're Lithotrophs (can only consume minerals), energy-eating motherfuckers or maybe a combination of the two

>>173699693
good thing the galaxy is flat

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Guaranteed to trigger the /pol/posters.

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> playing for cheevos
> "As a Materialist Empire with at least 200 pops, have at least 75% of your pops be robotic"
REEEEE GIVE ME MY CHEEOV YOU FUCK

>>173699819

BUILD A WALL

>find ancient text of another empire
>"""hide""" it for 40 influence
>teleport it directly to their bridge for 800 energy

makes me wish that I could actually keep it secretly and dust it out for a real trade instead of this influence bullshit

>>173699739
>maybe a combination of the two
So, they'd eat food?

>>173699849
cheevs are broke without the beta patch friend

>>173699652
In full-materialist empires synths are 0.3energy/pop and they barely cost anything in consumer goods, they're much more efficient than biological pops.

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>Sins of the Prophets shit got ported to Stellaris
>nobody is porting Blue Planet stuff

>attack 500 crystal aliens with 600 fleetpower
>lose

Fuck you paradox

>>173699975
>cheevs are broke without the beta patch friend
Without the wha?

>>173699983
what the fuck

and I thought hive minds were OP

>>173700158

Paradox released a beta patch that fixes a few bad bugs. It's out formally some time this week but you can download it from their site

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dude weed lmao

>>173699854
>BUILD A WALL

Donald Trump memes are reddit tier now

>>173699983
>>173700174

No see it's okay because Psionics get a fun side-story about working the Shroud and becoming veritable gods, and Biological... Uhh, Biological...

... What does Biological get that's good? The best armies in the game and the ability to spend 30 months upgrading your pops to be +10% better?

>>173700235

Oy vey

>>173699747
Space is full of water, after all. So I suppose there must be a level to it, somewhere. Ships just float on that, right?

>>173700306
Bios don't even get good leaders and even though they can get A BIT better pop bonuses than synths, you have to do ungodly amount of micromanagment that will make you want to kill yourself.

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>>173699739
>Option to start as an uplifted race that appears 200 years into the game where everyone is already big and developed and you start as a vassal to your uplifter race.

>"operations" button in the diplomacy window that allow you to do bullshit at the cost of influence; Stuff like false flag operations to make relations between two factions deteriorate, options to increase unrest in a specific world, option to make your ethos more appealing to their empire etc.

>Option to open trade lanes with other empires that each give you X% more mineral/energy income each month but also periodically spawn pirates that are equal to X% of your maximum fleet strength.

>"Raiding" war option that sets the war score to 100 and slowly ticks down to 0. Once it hits 0, you white peace. But everything you destroy during this time gives you minerals and energy credits.

>Change salvaging ships so it has X% scaling with research instead of just being a flat 15%. So if you wanted to, you could destroy enemy stations and salvage them as a decent boost to your research. This already works in early game but the number fall off towards late game.

>More depth to ground forces. Each ship has a slot for crew and the type you put in can do different things. Invasion ships can carry 12 units of crew each which can be used as an invasion force when taking planets. Add in boarding ships that will allow you to lock down cruiser and battle ship sized vessels in fleet warfare while your goons fight it out

>Add option for space stations to have a shield that takes up 4 slots but makes the station indestructible by fleets and forces them to board the space stations with ground forces.

>>173700306
>The best armies in the game

They're only mildly better than Xenomorph armies and by the late-game you're dropping doomstacks anyway.

Having Genemods is a fucking waste of time. Everything people assumed would be Biological-exclusive (like super terraforming) are bog-standard Ascensions anyone can take.

All Biological gets is +5 gene-traits and some mildly better abilities that are honestly fucking worthless in the scheme of things.

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Maybe its just me and my math is wrong but I feel like I'm missing a few points here...

>>173695321
fucked them up.

GLORIOUS levels of tech debris.

Went from level 3 weapons to level 5, got jumpdrives, a start on kinetic artillery, level 4 shields (from 2), level 4 tracker (level 1!).

Going to massively increase my tech level.

Also the unbidden showed up.

At the bottom of the map. I'm am at the very top of the map.

The south seems to have been less war scarred than the north, maybe they'll stop it?

>>173697389
If two species use the same name, portrait set and have the same traits in the same order the game will consider them the same species even if they come from different worlds.

>>173700678
>2+1-1+0.35-1
No?

>>173700678

Looks fine to me

2 + 1 = 3
3 - 1 = 2
2 + 0.35 = 2.35
2.35 - 1 = 1.35 per month

Am I being memed?

>>173700807
>>173700820
Why is it not 2+2+1-1-1?

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>>173700486

>Synthetics, which have the best mind-to-space ratio of any Ascension, are fire-and-forget
>Psionics, which are always portrayed as the purview of a small, rare race... You grab the perk and 80 billion of your citizens are now latent psionics
>Biological, which is built around optimizing every race and even planet with a single elite race ruling over the servitors, is only efficient in massive empires and requires *extensive* effort on the part of the player to even see returns

An Ascension Path that requires effort on the part of yourself to even see the benefits from is a shitty fucking Ascension Path. You don't have to press nothin' to see Psionics work, or Synthetics work, but Biological doesn't even make your leaders immortal or give happiness or whatever?

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Where to colonize next?

>Qefforth 70% habitable
>Pauunia II 90% habitable
>Pauunia IIa 70& habitable
>Alpha Centauri I 90% habitable

>>173701068

The from effects part

>Base - your starting amount
>Planetary Unification - from an event
>Xenophilia suppressed - from an event

Is just a breakdown of your influence income. It's just displaying where it's coming from.

>>173699276
it's probably supposed to be an ayylmao

>>173701106
>Urggh why do I actually have to press buttons?

You being serious right now?

>>173701106
Bio is the only empire I can see being worth building tall untill you perfect your people then start expanding those collonies with perfect beings so youre not doing like 20 planets and theyre just born perfect.

>>173701149
>3 OUTPOSTS
>KEEPING INFLUENCE MAXED
>STOP!!!!

>>173701149
Find a holy gaia world

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I made some changes to my self hating roboboos, pls r8

>>173701449
if I make another outpost I won't be getting anymore influence for when I need it

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>>173701664
Technology is the only correct answer

The Shroud is a hoax

>>173701673

You are capped at 1000 and so building another outpost your influence will stagnate instead of going up or down

>>173701257

Uhh, yeah? I should be able to notice things changing about my species and my empire when I press Biological.

Ascension Perks represent drastic shifts in the future of your species, the ability to build megastructures or upgrading your people with cybernetics or even unlocking the latent potential of your entire race.

What does the first tier of Synthetic do? Your people are replacing their minds with machines, you get bonuses to leader ability and you later can replace the weak flesh with immortal, perfect machinery. Psionics is the most colorful of the Ascension Paths, giving you latent psionic potential from the beginning and later allowing you to do interactions with the Shroud that even include an awesome hidden Crisis and almighty Avatars.

What does Biological do? You get +2 trait points I guess, and when you're maxed out you get +3 trait points and unlock some okay biological traits. This doesn't feel like a Path, this feels like taking one of the "generic" Ascension Perks.

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>fanatic militaristic xenophobe with superior fleets proposes non-aggression

>>173701904
They're afraid they'll become f. purifiers and will get purified.

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>>173701253
Ayy...
Lmao

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>>173701149
The one with most tiles of course, you baka.

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Neat. Seems to be bugged, though. It should be God-Empress, not God-Emperor.

>>173695962
>Matriarchal
>Bonus to research
It's funny because about the only matriarchal societies out there didn't get out of the "mudhuts and spears" stage.

>>173701904
They're just tsuntsun, they want to form your federation if you know what I mean

>>173702161
you have to switch leader genders and edit both titles during faction creation

>militarist declares rivalry with my friend
>rope them into non-aggression pact
>they accept
>guarantee friends independence

wew. hopefully this works

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>>173702314
L-lewd!

>building the same thing on 24 tiles
this shit is monotonous, is there a mod to make it easy to plop down 20 power plants or 20 mines?

>>173702557
The titles are already gender specific; she still shows up as God-Empress on the government screen.

>>173695962
>patriarchy
>+5% Army damage
>+5% Research
>+5% Production
>+10% Unrest

>matriarchy
>-15% Unrest
>+1 Influence
>-5% Research
>+5% Food Production
>-5% Energy/Mineral production

>>173702784
yeah, just give it to a sector

>>173702817
>takes 60 years to upgrade all the mines to lvl 2

>>173702784
The closest to that is the shift+click to queue up the tile specific upgrades. I'm sure a mod wouldn't be too rough to make up, but I wouldn't know how to go about that.

There really needs to be a tile painter or something

>>173701843
>an awesome hidden Crisis
>Crisis
Wouldn't that imply you could possibly win?

>>173701904
They're worried about another empire and want to make sure you don't jump them if they get into a war with them.

>>173703708
>Wouldn't that imply you could possibly win?

Anon, the Psionics Crisis both damns the galaxy and boosts your race's power. It wipes out 90% of your population and, in exchange, you get a fleet of 14k battleships and an empire-unique super-capital to annihilate the rest of the galaxy.

>play Stellaris
>some weird aliens in a gas giant want me to transport them to a new home
Nuh-uh. I went through this shit in that other game (MoO?) and it took the piss. They were never happy with the new world and kept insisting I take them to another one.

>>173702797
I imagine a matriarchy would have way more unrest mang, have you worked with women before? They all secretly hate each other.

>>173701673
MAKE SOME PLANITARY EDICTS INSTEAD OF JUST WASTING IT!!!

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at war.

jump into system with enemy colony

HAS A FUCKING STELLARITE DEVOURER IN IT.

HOW THE FUCK DID THEY COLONISE IT.

took out all my cruisers

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>>173703835
>you get a fleet of 14k battleships and an empire-unique super-capital to annihilate the rest of the galaxy.
Cute

>>173704296
Show the whole map.

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Can they not program the AI to force its pops onto tiles with shit or build shit on empty pop spaces? Is this why the AI needs to cheat?

>>173704383
Found it on reddit when I was searching for information on the end of the cycle
https://imgur.com/a/eCvur

>>173704387
The AI programmer is a chick.

>>173704106
I was thinking of unrest as a sort of revolution thing. Men have always been the revolutionaries that actually do anything. Just look to the women's march early this year. Sure there was a lot of support for it, and sure it was huge, but what did it accomplish? What progress did those people make for their cause(s)?

None, because they didn't have the fundamental group unity required to actually orchestrate political change. Thus I would argue that Unrest, as the mechanic it is currently, would be be represented the way I did

>>173704523
I mean there are 3 spaces with recources on it and hes on the only tile on the planet with nothing

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>>173704205
okay turns out the devourer teleported into the system, from a nearby system that it was actually tagged in.

>>173700305
Just because you want something to be true doesn't make it true

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>>173704447
>mfw

why am i not getting achievements in my stellaris campaigns? the only mod i'm running doesn't modify the checksum (1080p ui overhaul) and i'm on ironman. it even said "this game is eligible for achievements" when i started it.

>Get sentient AI
>Suddenly my AIs now have a happiness meter

Uh.... this is going to go back when I ascend everyone to robots right?

>>173704761
/ptg/ is not /pol/

>>173704863
Synths always have happiness.

>>173704523
>AI driven by feminine code

suddenly it all makes sense

>>173704523
Wiz said he reprogrammed the sector AI himself

>>173705465
Wiz is the creative director, though, so it's not any better.

>>173705465

If the sector ai is representative of his other work he needs to fuck right off

>>173705465
thats just enemy planet, not even my sector.

>>173701740
we wuz mages
>>173704447
>stagnant ascendancy still +20
Oh you summoned a galaxy eating abomination? Eh, we've seen better.

>>173705608
They use the same AI

>>173704812
Achievements are currently broken. If you have a look at global achievement stats all post-banks achievements are at 0%

Best FTL method?

>>173705689
All forced Hyperlane :^)

>>173705689
Forced hyperlanes, cuck.

Does the AI do event chains? Can they fuck up something I've got on in my log?

I know they scan debris.

>>173705689
Hyperlanes-only.

>>173705676
But I just got one yesterday

>>173705914
>>173705762
>>173705750

Found the fanatic pacifist xenophiles

God transport ships are the worst fucking game design I've ever fucking seen

>>173705689
forced wormholes

>>173705958
Found the easy-mode purifier baby. You are probably playing with only a few empires in a huge galaxy, too.

>>173705958
>not using clever, preplanned, hyperlane paths to outflank the enemy and take him out in a single blow

>its not yet your time. but it could be.
>name is end of cycle
>yes, this sounds like something I want to make a deal with
Lets be honest you deserve to get cucked by the shroud if you make a deal with this faggot.

So, what's to stop me creating an empire with the 'Mechanist' civic to get those early robot pops and tech, then pay the 200 influence to swap it out for a more useful permanent civic, but keep the robots and the tech.

I guess the same would apply for syncretic evolution as well. Is there any reason why this wouldn't work?

>>173706260
Don't forget the countless warnings.

Its actually worth doing if you think you can hit a victory condition in 50 years with the 100% in all yields boost

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>>173706313

Yeah, the reason is you aren't allowed.

>>173706313
>So, what's to stop me
Check the description again, you can't swap them out once game has started.

>>173706313
You can't get rid of mechanist, you are stuck with it forever :^)

Why are they called core worlds?

Yes I directly control them, but I mostly control frontier worlds once I get large enough.
I want to be able to designate a sector as my core and keep it Xenos free

>>173706379
What's the point of victory, anyway. I just stop playing when it's not fun anymore

>>173705606
it's a billion times better than at launch and I don't think that was him... and if it was he's getting better i guess

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A race of shipgirl warlords that conquered the earth and are on a path of galactic conquest. Who should be the general population?

>>173705958
But hyperlanes are fun anon. You can build nice defenses on key intersections. Honestly hyperlanes make for the best combat. Warp is just annoying.

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>>173706382
>>173706393
>>173706403
>All these anons making me feel like a retard
I guess I deserved it.

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>>173693118
Any good guides for Distant Worlds?

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>>173706490
Everyone does this anon.
But it's not what the devs expected.
The devs EXPECTED that sector AI would work properly at developing and/or redeveloping newly settled/conquered worlds, so you wouldn't be required to switch out your personally controlled worlds all the time to queue them up yourself.

>>173706573
>Who should be the general population?

neckbearded weebs enthralled by their matriarchs

>>173706573
the admirals

>>173706748
No. You have to figure everything out.

>>173706748
I think the distant worlds stuff is still over on /gsg/

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>Tell transport fleet to follow me
>It wars in ahead of my ship for no reason
>THEN INSTANTLY GETS EATEN BY AN ENEMY FLEET
>Warp my main fleet in first then tell my transport fleet to come in behind it
>AS SOON AS MY FLEET MOVED AN ENEMY FLEET POPS IN AND EATS MY TRANSPORT FLEET
>Cant just kill the enemy fleet because lel they are always faster than you in their territory for no reason.
>Blow up a worlds defenses and move on. Instantly lose war score for blowing up the defenses

I am 100% mad right now. Iromman mode was a fucking mistake

>>173706906
But that's scary.
>>173706918
Huh.

>>173706932
outplayed

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Not a single war yet, seems to be going well, but I'm, struggling on where to expand next

>>173706963
/gsg/ is the most unhelpful piece of crap. Ask us instead.

But usually, you should :
>turn off ALL automations
>do the tutorial
>figure out the basic mechanisms
>don't feed pirates
>start a game in early, non-warp game to slowly figure things out

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>tfw your leader pool slowly becomes fossilized
>all those skill points lost in time
>like tears in rain

>>173705465
>Wiz is a tranny
hot

>>173706932
Build multiple fleets to cover your rear while you advance into enemy territory.

>>173706787
god damn it, anon, now all I can think about is how comfy it'd be if I had a set of REAL core worlds, 25/25s of my preferred biome, with massive shipyards and planetary defenses and orbital fortresses and shit.

>>173705750
until someone gets jump drives then it's fucked.

>>173707213
Gotta rejuvenate those cells, brah.

>>173706796
That's not a bad idea. I need to find a good anime image of a typical otaku/weeb.

>>173706843
But anon, YOU are the admiral.

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>>173707213
When it rains it pours.

>>173704897
>how to spot a shitposter

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>>173707641
just put in a bunch of these with recoloured clothes

>>173706379
>not killing end of cycle
Do you keep the bonuses after he rapes your empire?

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>>173707641

>>173707427
Ring worlds

>playing as dicatorship
>notice I can only have 3 core worlds now instead of 5

WOW NICE CHANGES 10/10 GAME SO FUN THAT I HAVE TO TAKE EXPANSION JUST TO HAVE THE BASIC NUMBER OF CORE WORLDS

>>173707641
>But anon, YOU are the admiral.
I'd rather it be that the shipgirls took over and never stoped fighting to protect humanity. Anything to protect their precious admirals, even take oveer the world and unite it under their protected rule.

>>173708049
there is a ethic you can take which gives you +2 core worlds, everyone starts with 3 now unless you take that.

>>173708049
I dunno it seems like the sector mechanic is so badly flawed that the game would be more fun if you just modded it to have 20 core worlds.

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so the unbidden have eaten half the galaxy. I haven't even been able to get near them because of border closures, and have been concentrating on getting more planets for the hive.

>>173708049
>>173708329
>>173708470
>there are people that don't play with the mod that gives you 999 core worlds

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>>173707213
Venerable is a useful trait!

>>173708049
Phew, it's almost as if Wiz just made traits based on how he imagines various regimes to be instead of trying to make sense.

>>173708478
>2352
>that science income
>that fleet power
>that mineral income
The important bit is that the Unbidden will kill you quickly leaving you less time to suffer.

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>>173708478
and after.

they have two anchors, harvested 1400 ships and 95 planets.

>>173708470
Also note that NPC empires do not use sectors at all, so it's not like you're even cheating.

>>173708629
The AI has the awful sector AI for core worlds too.

I wish there was an option to start on a world that isn't your species' ideal habitat to simulate having to escape a climate disaster and such. I guess I'm stuck using the adaptability trait to RP it.

>>173708525
any specific one?

Hello friend would you like +100% to everything? It comes at no cost at all to you goyim.

>>173708687
Yes but the AI doesn't end up with a 25% tax on its planets, where the minerals and energy get stuck inside a sector forever and can never be used for building ships.

>>173708618
science isn't much of an issue because I've salvaged top tier equipment. It's been a pain getting more planets because of how hive minds don't capture planets & pops, they purge the pop, and then have to repopulate them.

I'm starting down my genetic engineering now so I should be able to do a lot better :/

>>173709080
My honour is not for sale you dirty hebrew.

>>173708837
>start game
>save game at day 1
>edit the save file
>realize that since the habitability mechanic is stupid there's no way to make this idea workable and meaningful anyway

>>173708997
Sorry away from my own computer right now, I think it's called No Sectors Mod or something.

>>173709237
guess i have to wait for the next three £50 dlc's

>>173696173
The psionic web of the hive mind is just different enough from individualist psionic tapping that it can't interact with the Shroud

Does making a civ a tributary count as a vassal? Or do I actually have to vassal the entire galaxy to beat the game?

>>173709460
>I think you have to vassalise everyone

>>173709184
Anon, you don't have to pay for my gifts yet.

but you will

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me on the right

>>173709715
You're still going?

>>173709771
no surrender

>>173699819
I'd genetically enrich her, if you know what I mean

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>invade and vassalise nearby empire
>trust with them goes up
>relationship skyrockets
>xenophile faction loves me for it

>>173709938
I really don't get it, how do they go from making games like Vic2 and HoI3 to this?

>>173709938
>kids throw stone in my yard
>spank him and then adopt him, giving him a roof, a bed, food, a future, and a chance to grow up into a balanced individual
>somehow I'M the good guy

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Made other three Empires.

Still thinking descriptions for them.

Could also use with new ideas for empires.

>>173709938
So you invaded space Sweden?

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>>173710176
Yes. It's fucking Klingons. Sue me.

>>173705762
>>173705750
>>173705914
Why?

>>173710345
wots the planet mod m80

>>173709715
How'd you get the fleet size/planet amounts/etc on that secondary bar near the music controls?

>>173710063
Space games are substantially more difficult to handle, as you lose the aspect of geographic limitations. Also they don't have history to guide them like they do all their other games

>>173710345
Show the SutoCorps one please

>>173710510
no idea, it's been like that since i've been playing

>>173706748
I don't get this replying to OP meme but I guess it keeps me coming back to the thread.
I can kinda help you though it might be best not too.
You can absolutely fucking demolish Distant Worlds with two things that are practically exploits.

For pre-warp start:
A) Zero taxes
B) beeline the +happiness techs, the medical and entertainment station upgrades
C) cycle taxes on for a month or two if you need money, otherwise ZERO taxes until you hit MAX population. Then tax as much as you can without the people revolting.
Having a max population homeworld size planet at max taxes will make you about as much money as the AI would need ten or twelve planets.
Zero taxes until max pop and then full taxes is always the best policy.

Regarding colonization and general growth, the colonization distance is the main detriment.
The easiest way to expand is to look for pre-space civs.
Brutally invade them as quickly as possible, it's practically a free planet and it has no diplomatic repercussions.
With these two things you can beat the AI even if they have a colossal advantage, though don't get too cocky.

Distant Worlds could be such a great game but too much of it is automated.
Even during off all the automation, shit like taxes and money and popualtion management as stated here are ludicrously simple and abusable.

I much prefer the races to Stellaris though, they are actually quite different, rather than +10% research here and -5% habitability there.

>>173710345
Some pacifist bureaucrats.

>>173710410
Planetary Diversity. I use it More Realistic Star Systems with the patch to make them compatible, although MRSS makes some custom mod ringworlds look weird.

>>173710596
What's your resolution?

Is there a way to make a virus empire based on infecting things?

>>173710824
Yeah. Sign a migration treaty

>>173710703
i'm currently using a shitty little square monitor so that may be it

How do you guys handle the unrest caused by gaining a fuckload of planets from a war? I can't seem to handle the sudden overhead from winning a war. It's almost better for me to just purge the planets and recolonize them, but that takes way too long

How to integrate new subjects?

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>>173710581
They are supposed to be little, greedy aliens living inside robot suits because of their fragile bodies and their Ammonia world preference. They also have the wasteful trait, but it's not show there.

>>173709094
But won't the sector AI spend those saved resources on doing upgrades to buildings, when upgrades become available?
Manually upgrading buildings, one by one, gets pretty tedious.

>>173711016
Yeah that's got to be it. I'd honestly prefer it if some of that information was condensed, or at least had smaller icons like that.

>>173711140
What mods are you using?

>>173693118
Hi lads, got a question about stellaris. I do not know why but I can not build a frontier outpost despite having the resources. Why is that?

>>173711152
The sector AI is the stupidest shit I've ever seen. You'd think it would be easy to have a simple priority table, or some way to actually focus the AI towards doing something. But, no, there isn't. The AI is completely fucking retarded

>>173711276
Are you able to build a frontier outpost elsewhere in space?

If so then you're trying to build a frontier outpost in colonized space, but you just haven't met the other species yet.

>>173711140
Neat

>>173711108
Having a garrison for each nearly gained world will help a lot, quickly getting them governered will help too.

>>173711378
Never mind, I found the reason. I didn't realize there was an anomaly at the point I was trying to build on. Thanks for the help though.

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gg.

got both anchors but no way in hell I could take out the anchor

>>173710824
You could do migration treaties, but unfortunately there just isn't much you can do in terms of subversion of other empires. You don't have much control over those pops after they migrate away from your planets

>>173711656
>got both anchors but no way in hell I could take out the anchor
what

>>173711516
So keep my boots on the ground until the unrest passes?

missiles are so pretty
and i used to hate on caldarifags

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>>173710670
aaaand I forgot pic.

>>173711212

A lot. The ones you might be able to see there are in the Empire creator:
>UI Grey
>Proxima Traits.
>loads of emblem, and background mods
>Diverse Rooms
>Extended Traits
>Spectra Flag Colors
>Cybrxkhan's Assortment of Namelists for Stellaris
>Cradle of Civilization Namelist
>Autism namelist
>Better Empire Names
>Corporate Namelist
>Cityscapes
>Human Revolution
>Syntethic Portrait Pack
>Extended Vanilla Clothes
Plus many more that I don't remember/you can't see, not counting the gameplay changing mods.

Is there a way to take only the bits of a mod that I want? For example, there is a city graphics mod that adds a couple I think look nice and then a couple I think look like shit.

>>173711760
Pretty much, alternatively just crank up the living standards for the conquered race.
Or kill/enslave them

>>173711714
the portal I mean.

that thing is fucking insane. also if you go near it every unbidden fleet jumps back into the system.

>>173712062

>When my brave fleet outfitted with kinetics stares down 240k Unbidden on their way to the Portal.

>>173711929
These are all from the workshop right?

>>173712062
I always just build up the biggest fleet I can muster, going well beyond my cap, and just fling it at the portal to break it down. Ignore everything else and just gun straight for the portal. Wormholes make this easy, but if you're using hyperlanes then it's much, much harder

>>173712062
post your ship designs and tell me how many of each design you had.

>>173712362
>Having more than one design of a ship

>>173711929
Thanks anon

>>173712045
How do you crank up the living standards for the conquered race?

>>173712689
Species manager screen.

>missiles are a meme
>torpedoes wreck anything that moves that doesn't have PD

holy shit. they're a bit slow to hit but once they do they absolutely decimate. now I'm only running torps on my corvettes.

shame about PD though

>>173712523
I meant designs of different classes.
Actually meant single design because that'd probably clue me into what he was doing on every design.

As for multiple designs of the same classes, PD destroyers and Artillery destroyers can both be important, and having seperate torpedo chassis for corvettes and cruisers can be a good decision.

>>173712881
Putting all Torps on Corvettes is OP as fuck.
You can easily spam the enemy with nukes and they won't be able to blow them all up.

>>173712523
>not having destroyers dedicated to point defense
>not having tank battleships and assault battleships
>not having different weapons in your fleet to always be able to do damage

pleb

I miss being able to put PD on regular nodes; picket destroyers were the best doctrine.

>>173713237
Destroyers with PD was the only time destroyers were ever good. We need a mod for this shit asap

>>173713206
I wouldn't be surprised if point defence doesn't work on a fleet wide basis.

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How are my Fanatical Purifiers?
I never really bothered with playing as Fanatical Purifiers before but the civic kind of makes it seem interesting.

>>173713646
Would definitely enslave and rape on a daily basis.

>>173713646
>missiles
>lmao5traits

>>173713781
The high class Nisyl race as we know it is already extinct. Now all that remains is low-grade livestock. Which species' women will the Lidem enslave next?

So now that it has been out awhile what is the general consensus on the government ethics that allow you to start with slaves or robots? Are they good to start with or is it better to just get naturally?

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>>173714120
I have my own plans for the Nysil. It involves oil, a whip, and a lot of pain.

>>173712881
What do you put on the other weapon slot? Missles to help eat the pd? Or something to help fight other corvettes?

>>173712881
My standard fleet is battleships with megacannon, 3 ballistic artillery and 2 flak artillery escorted by a swarm of torpedo/regular corvettes. Makes for fun battles to watch too.

What are some good benchmarks in terms of fleet power/income/worlds?

>>173713646
That lore is cancerously bad.

REMOVE FALLEN EMPIRES REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE

>>173714428
kinetic shit, since I start with that

>>173713646
I love your concept, but I have my doubts about fanatical purifier gameplay-wise. Is it fun? Is it viable, or do you just get roflstomped by a galaxy-wide coalition in 2250?

>100+ years in, doing fantastic, 2 sectors flourishing, finally into my first war, completely decimate them for comitting war crimes, free their people of slavery & modify them to be not weak / slow learners
>game crashes
>load back up and do some more shit
>game crashes

reee why now.

I tried to hack the Infinity Machine around Gargantua.

It wasn't very impressed by that. But didn't seem to bothered by it.
Did I fuck up?

>>173714998
Because you're not allowed to have fun

>Build tall
>Jump miles ahead of everyone
>Am not at a weird equinox where I need to either cede the entire cosmos or build one giant alliance

I really hope they update victory conditions one day. You can't really play tall so much as you play triangular.

>>173714826
Well I never really play as xenophobes so I guess I'll find out.

>>173714120
>>173714186
please no

I hope they fix the Mobile Suit gundam mod, fun to play with but god damn the weapons for the ships are broke af

After eating 3/4ths of the galaxy except for me, 2 fallen empires and a couple other empires, they seemed to bug out.

They just stopped practically on my doorstep.

>>173715108
Its not worth trying to hack, theres a tiny chance you'll actually get anything out of it.

>>173713646
I've thought of doing a Fanatical Purifier based on a failed ground attack on a pre-space civilization by a neighboring empire in the xcom way.

Or, the after effects of failing to kill the smugglers event during observing a planet where the pre-space civ has a massive civil war city killed by smuggled alien weapons, decides to dedicate itself to purging the aliens.

>>173709237
>implying

You realize that all climates in game represent various climates that have existed on earth at various times right? Or could exist, anyway. Humans can't prosper in an ice age and the eras in history when the earth was so warm the arctic was a swamp with crocodiles swimming in it would be far too hot for humans. That's generally what each climate is representing.

>>173715407
The problem with tall is the same problem all 4x games have with tall. If you're strong enough to not get conquered then there's no reason not to use your military to wreck everyone else.

i just got access to habitats
should i just build like 100 of them?

>>173716245
>Should I just no longer have research or unity

Depends how late into thegame youare.

>>173715108
Does the infinity machine ever tell you what its trying to do?
>we might be able to do our job before the universe dies, thanks senpai
BUT WHAT IS YOUR JOB

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>>173713646
It's like the Lidem all over again

>>173716049
In Stellaris, habitability only represents a happiness cap. If a climate catastrophe turns Earth into Waterworld or something else, all that does is make people less happy. If the habitability is under 40% then you'll suffer from revolts and there's nothing you can do, and if it's 60% or above then it's irrelevant until later in the game.

But please do go on with intentionally misreading what I say and then thinking that >implying is a counterargument.

>>173716316
Maybe it's trying to see what happens first: End of the universe or the end of the black hole.

>>173716394
>be very strong
>talking to someone weak
"Manual labor" indeed. Get your pussy ready for the slave pits, space elf.

Would it be possible to create pre-made scenarios in Stellaris? Starting with an already developed galaxy, with a pre-defined history could be fun. I'd be interested in creating some kind of human-only scenario with many different factions that split off from the original human colonies.

>>173716245
Habitats are only size 12, so they're terrible planets.

Though they do 2 things well, research and energy production. They have a 3/3/3 research building and a 10 energy building, so you can easily have an orbital habitat producing 30/30/30 science or 100+ energy.

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>>173716643
>implying the pussy is the one getting loose and not the butthole
Do you even rape?

>>173716736
Can you assist research habitats?

>>173716771
I'm pretty sure calocs have multiple tentacles anyway, so it's not like their slaves have any unused holes.

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>>173716984
I like the way you think.

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>>173716882
They're planets you can build, yes. I'm just annoyed about how small habitats are.

I also think paradox didn't put enough effort into the things, like no way to upgrade the structure to be larger, or specialize it.

But what I wanted though were mobile habitats, like the galactic nomads, spaceship-habitats not tied down to any one planet where the whole civilization being able to move.

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The better graphics-final battel mod is fucking amazing!

>>173717274
one habitat can provide 100+ energy, or 33/33/33 research points. That's specialised already.

They are designed to be fire and forget without worrying about upgrading shit.

Did they fix missiles with Utopia?

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>>173717410
Hnghhh!

>>173717628
Nope

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>>173717628
>Paradox
>fixing things

>>173717410
>>173717652
Doesn't look any different, anon.

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>>173717713
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

>>173717817
Should add more projectiles and shiiiet. Then again I don't have anything to compare to, so maybe I'm imagining things.
Also I found a 24 tiles gaia-planet in a crystal sphere system. There's about 4K of army in total guarding it!

I am early game right now. Should I build a fleet mainly composed of destroyers? Or spam my corvettes?

>>173716450
So you're saying you like to live in Arizona?

>>173718136
destroyers suck in general. they are useful in mid-late game when you get things like kinetic batteries and tachyon lances, as you can get that one fuckoff huge weapon and a flak battery.

but early game, naaaaaaah. you're better off just building shitloads of cheap corvettes than a destroyer than might be 2.5x the cost.

>playing a hyperspace game
>every single system seems to have a fleet of hostile creeps in it
>playing a warp game
>find maybe 1 system with hostile creeps in it

Gee thanks paradicks

>>173718023
>only 4k

>>173718136
What you want in your fleet depends on what your enemy has. If they have missiles you'll want destroyers with point defense. If they have no point defense you'll want torpedo corvettes. If they have nothing but large gun ships you'll want small gun corvettes/torpedo mix. A destroyer with a large long range gun and a couple point defenses escorted by 4x as many corvettes will do well in the first 20-30 years of the game.

I tend to phase out destroyers when cruisers + flak battery/artillery become available. My final fleet makeup is usually Battleships (big guns that shoot far) + Corvettes (swarm enemy and keep them off the battleships)

>>173718606
>fleet stance passive
>set back to evasive once you're past the system
That was hard.

>>173718639
>>173718389
Cheers lads

>barren world with no minerals has a +15% minerals modifier

Good job paradox

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>essentially win the game way before I even get the possibility of building habitats
>people paid £15 for this dlc

>>173717628
How would you fix missles? I don't even know why they put it in the game as it is.

In my opinion the only way for missles to be fixed is if they are an area of effect weapon. But for that to work the entire combat system needs to be redone. So you can have fleet formations. Tight formations would be at a disadvantage against missles.
Also you should be able to asign roles to your ships, if I design a destroyer as an artillery piece it shouldn't charge in. Basically every ship charges in regardless except for the battleship.
Ships should also be more difficult to destroy so the first major battle of a war decides to outcome with one side winning and the other utterly losing. We will just have to wait for another DLC to fix/break everything again I'm affraid.