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MFW I read all comment in previous thread.

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Old thread >>173474932
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first
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need concede

85423
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dragon is fine, sibyl is not.
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Stop being mad all the time /svg/
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KILL SHADOW
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fuck haven and aegis
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Rope and disconnect every shadow player
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>>173518427
t. shadow player
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HANDS OFF THE GRAPES
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Oh shit guys how do I counter Aegis?
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I FUCKING HATE THIS GAME
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>shadow
>shadow
>shadow
>shadow
>dragon
>dragon
>haven
>repeat
nice game
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GOOD LUCK I'M BEHIND 4 WARDS
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"forest was never cancer guys"
"forest was never that good guys"
remember to kill and exterminate any treefuckers you find, you knife ears should just shut up and taste tier 2 for a change
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>>173518447
But they come back as skeletons, then what?
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>>173518464
>want to counter a 30% of WR deck
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>play tarnished grail sun guardian haven for dailies because no aegis
>dragoncucks freely ramps every single turn because he isn't scared of me in the slightest
>literally have no answer to turn 4 Rahab except tribunal
>just casually drops 2 bahamuts starting from turn 7
>Zells one of them
>finishes with forte

Cygames literally had to make an invincible card for haven because Dragon is this much bullshit.
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>>173518427
>When rowen Bahamut's your dragonclaw pendants
Why even play the fucking game? Christ

>>173518464
Play a better deck.
No really, that's their solution.
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>"Let's make a 5 mana Lucifer that also ramps you and gets full stats when evolving"
>Dragonfags will defend this
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>>173518239
Let me try that again
>1 damage before t5
>t4 EPM
>t5 0Fairy 0Fairy Angelic Snipe Roach Roach Evo
>1 + 7 + 9 + 2 = 19
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>>173518561
More like coming back as ghosts and hitting you in the face.
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I'm done bros, I'm learning chess, my heart can't take losing to any fucking rng.
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>>173518626
>s-she's bad because you can't play her on curve
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Is anyone else running Gobu in dragon to get Zell more reliably?
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>>173518583
what really annoys me is dragon takes up neutral cards that are clearly printed only for dragon, like saha/israfil

fine keep your good class cards, but stop taking more slots each expansion you greedy bastards
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>just opened my second animated mr. balanced
Here's a webm for the guy who asked for it the other day.
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>>173518668
Chess is just memorizing openings and then it's over.
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CUTE!

How can a Shadowverse girl compete???
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>shadowniggers complain about 56% winrate daria and albertcraft day and night nonstop everyday
>nobody bats an eye
>actual thinking individuals with functioning brains complain about shadow and their over 60% winrate double tier1 deck cancer
>omggg autizms...wtf this general do shit...stop being mad LoL
Really sahas my bahas
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>>173518764
Yes, why aren't you a grandmaster anon, it's literally just memorizing openings?
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>decks commonly saw in ranked play
>DE
>elana seraph, storm haven, face dragon, midrange sword, csword, aggro blood, ptp forest, aggro forest, dshift
>RoB
>daria, otk forest, albert sword, neph shadow, aggro shadow, ramp dragon
>ToG
>midrange shadow and ramp dragon

Nice "expansion" curve shadowbbs lmao
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>>173518532

>Forest vs forest
>51.4% winrate

Damn son, forest sure is pretty doped back in the days, they were so strong that they even have a positive winrate against themselves.

Also all in all they are not that cancerous. They don't have a press one button then win all card. Even roach is nothing like that. I remember less than 50% of the time the game finish with a roach strike.
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I need a few wins in private matchs dailies so Lets pair these up with the 20 Private matches with others mission, Room number is 18215 and I need 1 win while im at 5 or 6/20
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I need pictures, pictures of Orthrus and her cute hat!
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>>173518880
this is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia.

humasn are like that
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Alright I drew my second Echtar. Can someone post a commie deck for me ? I don't have a Thane or DB can I cancer it up regardless?
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>>173518576
49.8% actually, but Havenshitters will keep calling it shit and it's impossible for them to win anymore.
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>>173518532
how much of a baby do you have to be to still be mad about this 5 months later
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>>173518819
>only shadowfags hated daria and albert
how delusional can one person be
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>Rune is fucking dead and nobody cares
Monsters
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>my name is Lou, it's short for....Lou
Is she retarded?
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>>173518880

I enjoyed the time when forest was "dominating" the meta. Nowadays there is no variety at all. Kill the shadowbabs and dragoncucks and we can get our diverse meta back.
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>>173519014
forest niggers are playing the victim and are trying to pretend this expansion is literally the worst thing to happen to them
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>>173519051
rune has never been fun to play against even when i win
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>meta is mediocre
>/svg/ is okay
>meta is better than average still has problems in the form of shadow,immortal rowen, and test of strength
>/svg/ implodes
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>>173518819
>shadowniggers complain about 56% winrate daria and albertcraft day and night nonstop everyday
Hagfags are this delusional, next they will call their cancercraft chemo too.
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>otohime
>sage commander

Why is this allowed?
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>>173518865
Even Bobby Fischer said Chess was all about memorization and predetermined openings, mang.
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>>173519013
>aegis is broke!
>below 50% winrate

itt memes didn't last
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>>173519120
see
>>173519014
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>>173519051
>not playing ebin aggro dirt
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>>173519051
get fucked runeshitter now my favorite class is in charge of making the game absolute trash
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>>173518880
I played D-shift as a Haven And holy shit was that an intense game, it went on for nearly 30 turns of him D-shifting multiple times, and returning my Draw 2 cards amulet to my hand while playing 2 giants the 7/7 Ones, on the last turn she had 2 of those and was at 8 Hp while I was at 5, I had 1 divine armor evolved on the field that she could do nothing about and 2 holywing dragons fresh off the amulet play, and I ended up winning thanks to that

Still an incredibly fun and intense game but also incredibly Frustrating, I felt like COnceding multiple times because of the bullshit but I pushed through and won
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>>173519051
I care.

I don't think its dead, though. Daria won the first Nip tournament after ToG came out and D-Shift is still played a lot in tournaments. Dirtrune is there too. Its just more gimmicky and fragile than it was before.
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>>173519013
>/svg/ faggots whining about broken Aegis was for 2 weeks
>Haven players say the deck is nothing special
>Actual stats come out showing it's nothing especial
>"I-It was actually haven players calling it unviable shit all along, see the stats show it's viable"
Dude fuck off
Seriously fuck off
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>>173519157
>skipping your turn 6 and 7
>then complaining about it

Why is this allowed?
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>>173519051
You sound like a angry dshift player
I won't argue that getting raped by skeletons is fun but atleast there's counter play
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>go firsst
>drpo yurius
>lose

they should nerf this mini aegis
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>>173518639
He said an amulet always treat as as "2 or more cards are played", same with how blood moon work.
That's how I think
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>>173519120

They are the victim though. Also when they are suppose to be "dominating" they gave other classes a breathing room, unlike the current overlords which are shadows and dragons.
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>>173518880
>game "expands"
>even less playable decks than before

Just like jewgioh

Have fun bbs
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>When topdecks and the nerf give you games you didn't deserve
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>>173518819
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>>173519262
The winrate is indeed nothing special but it's not 30% unplayable like >>173518576 said.
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>>173519315
Try putting in some Zombie Parties in your deck.
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SHADOWBAAAAAAABBBSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????
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>>173519262
the whole community, not just /svg/, was and still is overreacting about aegis

it's pretty amusing
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>>173519051
I win with snowmen but I'm in the shitter ranks so that doesn't count

>>173519315
If only you could do 3dmg with a spell...
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>>173519152
>meta is better than average
How so? Shadow is more opressive and dominant than Daria ever was from what I've seen in low Master.
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>>173518957
guys??
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>>173519291
>dshift has no counter but shadow does
>being this delusional
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>>173519404
Mid-albert is fine and luminous gives the decka lot of tenpi swings
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>>173519213
It's nice to hear you're having fun in B ranks.
If Dshift doesn't win turn 7-8 they deck themselves out 2 turns later.
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>>173519013
>Storm Haven
Is it time? Is it safe for Caw Haven to return?
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>>173518615

Man I want to try pendant combo with earthshock ogre oroboros and mad cyclone but those baha and lightning just make me drop the idea.
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>>173519450
I'm not a fan of "play a different deck"
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this general is in complete anarchy, i've literally never seen anything like this before. everyone here needs to calm the fuck down
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>>173518880
Aegis Haven, Suicide Blood and "Mid" Sword are all viable deck with a healthy amount of WR. What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>173519583
GOLDEN STAFF
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>>173519404
>dragonigga shakin hands with luna
>kek

t. aggro
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>>173519076
It's grownup Witchette Emmylou. The joke is that she's a freshman who's getting ready to introduce herself to someone at school, but she remembers that her name is fucking retarded halfway through.
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>>173519359
I can troll you with Messenger of Peace / Waboku / Threatening Roar / Swift Scarecrow / Battle Fader all days.
And they are old ass cards
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>>173518764
Has a point.

>>173518668
You should play go.
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>>173519609
>want to win
>don't play a deck that wins
>wooooow why am I not winning
hearthbabbies????
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>>173519574
I know. Anyone that thinks that Swordcraft won't return to Tier 1 like it always does is fucking delusional. The class is inherently solid and has a lot of strong tools at its disposal. Sword will never be weak for as long as this game lives.
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>>173519642
The game is trash, what do you expect, for now even ungoro is better than this.
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Are they ever going to nerf this piece of shit or should I just give up playing ranked if I don't feel like jumping the bandwagon and playing the exact same deck as everyone else?
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>>173519587
Don't let your memes be dreams
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The game is currently like a PS1 Yugioh demo AI that randomly selects 1 of 3 decks to play against you.
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Get the rope
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>>173519560
Theres a counter to D-Shift Just have Magic immune units along with wards and persistance, their momentum will drain along with their deck
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>>173518018
pls halp
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>>173519683
Is that a scene from that granblue game or rob?
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>>173519752
No, and enjoy.
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have all the salty retards migrated to haven to try to counter shadow? 99% of ragequits i've seen have been haven players, regardless of what class I play
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>aggro skelly out-aggroed by dshift

COMMIT SUDOKU
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>>173519796
Tighten it around your neck.
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>>173519752
Nah it's completely fine. I actually wish HS was f2p friendly at this point.
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>>173519851
you will leanr eventually anon.

try watch some streams from open recor twitch
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>>173519580
It was D1 I think im not that good with what I got but I try my best and im having fun

Just sometimes I get frustrated when something does not go my way
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Miss me yet?
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>>173519861
I don't even know what the bitch is from. I just connected the dots after seeing both cards.
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>>173519120
2 innocent cards were killed. How is that not victim. Do you prefer cygames give every class the forest treatment when it is their turn?
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>>173519752
play dragon, oh wait
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>>173519943
kys literal cockroach fucker no one misses you
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>>173519404
Sword will come back

They always do. Like a plague, an eternal cockroach that can't stay dead
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>>173519989
Friendly reminder to ignore him, newfriend.
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>>173519943

No,fuck off.
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>1pp drop
>2pp drop
>and now they have skeletons inside them olololol

Absolutely fucking retarded.tiff
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>>173519943
Burn the forests. Exterminate all elves.
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>>173519876
>tales from B0
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I need your help. I can't decide between these 2 in any way, shape or form. I want to start playing now that I have time. I'm not sure which craft I'll decide on.
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Pull the trigger on every shadow nigger
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>>173519943
Yes. I want to play control sword again.
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>>173519992
Nope. <spoiler>I jerk to you everyday</spoiler>
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Room Number is 18215 I need one win for Dailies and im at 6/20 for private matches


Oh hold on for a few minutes someones playing with me
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>>173520112
Don't forget
>t4
>lol clear ward and buff faggot
>lol double reaper XDDD
>t5 cerberus
>t6 howl puppets LMAO
Im so glad there's solid counterplay to this!
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>>173520187
I want to pass Eris between myself and other men
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>>173520247
You have to go back.
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WHY IN THE NAME OF FUCK IS UNRANKED FULL OF FUCKING DSHIFT I AM SO MAD
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>>173519869
i guess thats a yes
>>173519796
>>173520187
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>>173519013

>One billion legendaries required
>50.7% winrate

If playing Dragon isn't still cucking yourself one way or the other then I don't know what is
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>>173520159
both are average like 5/10 roll.

what you want to play? shadow is pretty strong nowadays so you can roll for eachtar and cerberus to have great decks.
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>>173520375
b-but dragon is cancer b-b-be glad we got s-shadow to keep them in check!
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>>173520125

B0,you say ?
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>>173519943
you are stupid if you think that elf is bad
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>>173520389
Cerb avoids me like the plague, I tried rerolling her for 2 weeks when the game first came out. I'll just stick to the right option, I guess.
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>>173520326
because they get buttraped by shadow in ranked
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>>173520549
Just craft her my dude.
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>play SHADOWverse
>complain the game is full of SHADOWcraft

get a gripe you shitter

lmao
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Thanks Vania, sorry I had a horrid starting hand but anyway thanks

18215 is the number

7/20

Lets play
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>>173520326
It's a 40% win rate deck
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>>173520501
lmao dude
you saved my screenshot from other thread? don't tell me you're below b0?
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>>173520549
just roll more m8 is pretty easy.

you don't have any key lego for good decks.

wew the first(1) seems better anyway
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>>173520375
says right there that storm ramp has 58.6% winrate

forte > all
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>>173520668
Do you just want a quick game or can I test out my meme deck on you?
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>>173520651
Finally the game is true to its name!
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>>173519262

I'm still waiting on that unbeatable wallet haven deck.
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>>173520326
They don't want to lose points playing it in ranked, also there are people practicing it since it's less straightforward to play than most other decks.
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>shit flinging everywhere
Bad anons, be nice to each other.
Except the lunapedos, just fucking gas them
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>>173520326
Parachan was playing dshift
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Is there any way to improve this deck /svg/? It's midshadow. Or should I just go full aggro?
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>>173520527

Not that Elf is bad, but the play rate is abysmal.
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>>173520812
Meme

I tried the 60k vial list and still lost to dshift
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>>173520865
Suicide
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>>173520865
That just looks like aggro with death's breath
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>Animated set of Comrade Doggo.

Bet there's a shadowbab who's jelly.
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Daria is mai waifu. Nothing like a clutch daria uriel for a force+0 cost spellls reach steal. Feel bad for the other guy getting robbed.

>>173519876
Why are you so angry? Something's clearly wrong with his deck or his draws for it to happen.
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>>173520731
I vialed my left nut to make Sybils and Grimnirs for SahaRamp, should I vial the other one to make Forte for Storm Ramp?
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>>173520683
>same window's frame
>saved my screenshot from other thread?

Are you literally retarded ?
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>>173519730
>>173519574

Stats disagree with you.
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>>173520854
Any shitflinging not directed at shadowbabs is covert deflection from shadowbabs. A retarded monkey could look at the statistics and figure out what the problem with this game is.
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>>173521038
>return
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>tfw spending more time shitposting than actually playing the game

Theres also this shadow nigger getting roped in the background
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>>173520886
It was artificially high because of the bandwagoners. The same reason shadow and dragon are half of all decks played right now when before they were like 16% total.
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why is this game such a chore to play now? I should have went for masters in DE
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>>173521019
I say don't bother if you don't have any fortes in the first place.
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>>173521025
nice try but you've been caught, better delete and move on
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Why can't we be friends
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>>173521078
>any criticism not directed at shadow is automatically a shadow falseflagger
i'm not a shadowfag but you're fucking delusional, your class is getting the axe too dragonfag
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>TRIALS BEGIN
I don't like the sound of that.
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>>173520865
It's just a matter of preference at this point, there are so many variation of the deck at this it's hard to tell which one is really the best. Just stick to the build you like and make changes when it's not working out for you.
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>>173521038
Most of sword losses is from memesters bringing out frogs and gawadin without any clue on what they are doing. I even fought a guy that run spring cleaning on AA.
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>>173521146
because if you want to win you either play braindead shadow shit, or play dragon where you either draw well and win against everything or draw bad and lose against everything
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>>173521146
We told you to rank up when you could cause it'll always get worse
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>>173521019
Storm ramp is also a meme. Forget it.
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>>173520743
Do whatever you like Anon, Quick or long as long as its fun im fine with it
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>shadow mirror
>we both play chimeras and catacomb
>it's skeletons trading into skeletons trading into skeletons for 4 turns straight
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>>173521249

>Storm Ramp is a meme

Pretty sure that's the deck with a positive WR.
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>>173521208
You need to win all game in a row otherwise you reset back to 0
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>>173521249
storm ramp is strictly better than the sahaluci garbage
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holy shit guys please calm down this is like watching my family fight can't we just go back to making memes
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>play Take Two
>opponent drops Dragonsong Flute turn 3
Yo this is fucking stupid.
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>>173520668
Sorry anon.

my energy just blow out
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>>173521331
xd skelingtons so ebin
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>>173521331
Lichcraft when?
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>>173521276
Still at 7/20 because the person I played with conceded instead of going lethal, I was at like 1 HP and he had 3 minions while I had 2 soul conversions in my hand

Oh Man every time im posting someone is ready to battle same number as before
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>>173521228

Well, it seems to work for the most part, but it also feels like I'm taking too long to win. Also Haven matchups are damn near an auto-lose, and on top of that, they're the most boring fights too because every Haven player right now is only playing stall-into-Aegis and nothing else.
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>>173521249
>a deck that has been the strongest dragon deck in DE and still remains viable is a meme

I bet you insisted on playing Saha ramp in RoB and cried about Nep too.
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>>173521146
This.

I went from beginner to AA0 during DE by playing storm haven and csword. Two expacs later I'm still stuck in AA2. I really miss the diversity of DE even when I had my ass kicked by PtP and dshift when playing control.
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>>173519730
As much as I want to agree with you, at the moment the midshadow matchup is really bad.
Sword has poor boardclear apart from cyclone and they have to use their board to control the whole board.
But shadow can flood better than sword does and their followers are much stickier, so it just snowballs out of control and not even Aurelia helps.

Please tell me there's something that I'm missing I want to enjoy sword again.
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>>173521487
>Two expacs later I'm still stuck in AA2
maybe because you're actually bad you drooling retard?
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>>173521382

No, pic related. It's me on the right, fighting with another anon who's probably some dragonfag or hag.
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>>173521382

Blame the shadowfags, they are tier 1 right now but they are still extremely cocky and getting even more greedy. When Daria and Unga are OP as fuck all their players had the decency to at least lay low for a while.
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>>173521527
anon everyone said what you said at RoB.

literally the same thing
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>>173521208
Pass them or you gotta restart back at 0
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>>173521019
Storm ramp still run both Sybil and Grimnir. Lucifer is the card you drop for storm ramp. Some lists also dont run Saha and Israfil.
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>>173521345
Only because everyone is currently playing midrange shadow ie very little amount of wards.

As soon as they start teching more wards storm will be dead.
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>>173521458

I gotchu senpai
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To think there were people with actual hopes for ToG to be better than RoB. Depressing.
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>>173521458
You can already do it to some extent.
Maybe they'll print Catacomb King next time with fanfare: give all allied followers "last words: summon lich".
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>>173521203
>your class is getting the axe too dragonfag
I'm a shadowbab and even I suspect dragon won't be getting the same treatment.

Just do yourself a favor and star your shadow cards so you have enough vials after the nerf to craft something else.
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54942

Please Concede
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WTF I HAD THIS SHIT CALCULATED HOW THE FUCK?
>LITERALLY SAYS FALSE IDOLS AIN'T WORTH SHIT WHEN SHE ENTERS
SERIOUSLY WTF?
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>>173521013

>Why are you so angry?

Gloating =/= Angry. Comprehension,fucker. Do you know it ?

>Something's clearly wrong with his deck or his draws for it to happen.

Actually,no. He draw and play the exact same cookie butter braindead t2drop whatever t3 drop skellyman t4 even more skelly man t5 windslut,only that he can't buff his t2 because I windblasted it and during t5-6 I decide to make a gamble and go for face instead of trading into reaper's food. Fucker lost because he got greedy and think I wouldn't be able to answer his evo'd windslut and 3 other minions on his board. Nothing to do with him drawing bad,just another shitty unga player being braindead.
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>>173521527
Trade earlier and more aggressively. Also remember how gay Frontguard General is.
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>>173521613

Zell and Ouro are very capable of clearing wards and running in bug damage. Come on dude, do you think that Midrange Shadow doesn't produce wards at all?
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>>173521543
The art and animation in this anime looks pretty terrible. Is it actually worth watching?
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>>173521487

The climb to AA0 is nothing between people learning to play and winstreak bonuses. If you're still in AA2 then you deserve to be there.
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>try to use Swords to Woodland on enemy Lord Atomy (cost 0)
>doesn't work
>play 2 cards and try to use Swords again
>doesn't work
explain this shit shadowbabs
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Remember to rope the opponent who plays shadowcraft.
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>>173521621
>2348 Nep

Does it work? Seems fun. Too bad you won't get to trigger Dragoncucks with Kamura though.
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>>173521543
Hold on. Cerb had dog ears the whole time? I never noticed.
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>>173521734

I liked it. Just watch the first episode. Don't be a puss.
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>>173521638
to think that crybbs would cry less in ToG than Rage of Daria
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>>173521772
Just how silly can you be anon
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>>173521172

Whatever. Shitty troll sure is shitty.
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>>173521461
Add some Thane/Goblin Princess if you feel like you are getting wiped too hard. Going full on aggro is not very effective against Haven since they've teched in stuff like Ritual just for the matchup.
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>>173521146
I started playing back in late January and got to Master rank before end of RoB. You sound like a lazy fuck desu.
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>>173521541
Or maybe because I don't want to play duh killer decks lmao!!!1 like every single faggot?

Have fun playing midrange shadow with everyone else I guess.
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>>173521859
Its hard to convince myself to watch anything when my to watch list has years of content on it.
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So, what's the optimized storm ramp deck?
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>>173522040
Vial and craft shadow.
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Cygames comes to you and says "You can nerf 3 cards this expansion to balance the meta".

Which ones will you nerf and how?
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>>173521613
Aggro doesn't run Wards
Midrange has DB, Goblin king and Wight King
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>>173522102
Roach ,Daria and D-shift
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>>173518741
How do you record your webms? they're so small in size yet so big in resolution and quality
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>>173522102
Eachtar
Catacomb
Orthrus
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>>173521693
you sound pretty angry
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>>173521750

Winstreaks stop in like, B, you casual. You'd know this if you ever got out of there.
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>>173521734
I've tried watching it twice and gave up after 4 episodes both times.
I didn't really like the art either but I was much more annoyed by the fucking annoying as fuck MC and that other faggot who kept screaming before scene transitions.
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>>173521909
I did say it was a chore, its not even fun anymore. Only reason i still play is because I put too much money in the game
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>>173521909
And you are still a shitter. Just kys already
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>>173521276
>3 followers on board, 1 frog
>Orthrus
>Snipes the frog

I cry evry tim

Good game anyway
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>>173521720
Too bad that's not your hand most of the time as dragon bricks like ass.

Meanwhile shadow will just pollute the board and buff while you can do nothing but concede since you can't possibly remove and defend from all this.

I'm sorry but no matter how you look storm ramp is a short lived meme destined to be teched sooner or later.
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Its Official Pepe is NOT immune to Minion effects, Orthrus killed the meme Making her best girl, Joking but that was both surprising and hilarious, GG Swordbro

Game rooms still 18215 Lets play some more>>173522238
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>>173522102
Albert,Daria and d-shift
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>trying out conjuring force deck
>play sorcery cache on 3
>opponent concedes

thank you dshift bros
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>>173521751
Atomy costs 9
All cost related calculations are done with the BASE costs of the card
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>>173521983
I made Masters with Aggro Shadow in RoB and it was pre-nerf Daria and Roach. You just suck dicks dude.
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>>173521751
It's original cost
Report the bug
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>>173522102
1. Sibyl, she grands PP on the start of the turn
2. Eatchar gives +2/+0 only to his zombies
3. if Rune doesn't kill you on next turn after casting DSHIFT they auto-lose game
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>>173522161
I don't want to judge but you sound a little butthurt.
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>>173522102
Test of Strength-Delete
Aerin-Delete
Sibyl-Delete
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>>173522102

Grimnir only. Others are fine.

>>173522153

Are you living in the pass?
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>>173522102

Catacomb - He doesn't have a skelly himself

Sibyl - Can't heal if there's been a ramp in the current turn (Oracle when already at 10pp won't shut it off)

Minor stuff, but that usually seems to...help a little.
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So is Grimnir a save craft that I'll be able to include in just about every non-aggro deck?

Or asked differently: is there any other Neutral Gold/Legendary that is an auto-include in a vast majority of decks?
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>>173522102

prince
sybil
zell
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>>173522223
>Only reason i still play is because I put too much money in the game
Yeah, same. I must admit it's nowhere near as fun this expansion. Ranked is particularly boring right now.

>>173522225
You seem upset about something, anon.
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>>173522153
>>173522280
>this expansion
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>>173522102
Sibyl, Death's Breath, ouroboros.
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>>173522276
I'm pretty sure you have to play against 20 different people, good luck and make sure to not change your name for others doing the achievement
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>>173522171

I'm happy enough to deign to keep replying to your shitty bait right now.
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>>173522102
orthrus deals doesn't deal damage
eachtar doesn't buff
catacomb doesn't give himself a skelly and is 0/1
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>>173522119
DB?
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>A meme legendary is suddenly unironically playable
>mfw I put him on my list of things to craft
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>>173522102
Catacomb
Orthrus
Shadow reaper
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>>173522414
Stop shitposting you shitter
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>>173522489
cool avatar bro
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>>173522302
>I made Masters with a tier 1 deck, look at how amazing and skilled I am dudes

Whoa! It's as if you're a professional shadowbbs player!

lmao
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>>173522372
>Catacomb - He doesn't have a skelly himself
>the prince of bones doesn't have any bones
You absolute madman.
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>>173522525
Death's breath
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>>173522525
Death's breath
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>>173522102

Grimnir - remove his ward

Zell - give it to forest

Aegis - exchange with Anomaly
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>>173522560
Please stop shitposting anon!
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>>173521379
How does the storm list looks? have fortes would like to take it for a spin
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>>173522102

Grimnir can't hit face
Sybil has 1 less def and one less heal
Prince can't skelly himself
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>>173522538
Yeah this combo is sortof TOO much for most players

>Playing shadowcraft

Im sorry
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>>173522379
Yes, you can put him in every deck not named D-Shift.
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>>173522571
>aggro shadow in rob
>tier 1
>>173522582
The prince IS the skelly.
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>>173522602
>Zell - give it to forest
>Aegis - exchange with Anomaly
10/10 would implement it
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BROS. I NEED HELP POWERING UP MY JO PENDANT. GIVE ME JO LISTS.
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Catacomb can't skelly himself literally changes nothing you dipshits.
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>>173521621
>a fucking Owl
>a motherfucking Owl
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>>173522102
catacomb cost 5
orthus cost 5
>>
Friendly reminder to ignore the namefag. All he wants is your replies and shitposting. Ignore it and it will go away.
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Need Concede

49402
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Do you guys have any suggestions on how to build a proper Runecraft deck that utilizes the Guardian Golems?
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>Get polyphonic roar out on t7
>He bahamuts on t8 and BM's like he actually did something
Fucking kill yourself
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>>173522831
I was gonna namefag for the sake of private matches so that people know who is asking and stuff

18215
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>>173522767
Gotta love those tier revisionists.
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>>173522602
I wonder who's behind this post

kill yourself, knifear
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>the meta has boiled down to a rock paper scissors game
>Shadow>Blood>Dragon>Shadow
>when dragon and shadow get their inevitable nerfs Blood will become king
>/svg/ will still cry about Blood being bad because they wasted their vials on the wrong leggo
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>>173522767
Aggro shadow was tier 1 during RoB before the nerf.
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>>173522937
dragon doesn't beat shadow you fucking retard
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Finally got the meme dream. All damage to dirty old Mage came from GURIIMMUUNIIRRRs.

Also fuck the people playing full netdecks in unranked trying to waste my time by roping and spamming BM when they have lethal. I'm playing JO, I don't expect to win.
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>>173522938
No it wasn't, stop making things up.
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Orthrus effect should be on evolution. It is not fair that you can kill a ward, buff a follower and then also be able to buff it even more with evolution to smack the enemy face with upmost violence.
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>>173522828

Ledger can't pull neutrals (and honest neither should Nep so she's actually usable) and Owlcat is one of the actual useful ones. Kills skellies all day long.
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>>173522937
Nothing beats shadow right now.

At least not consistently.
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>>173522894
Anyone?
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>>173522937
shadow>shadow>powergap>all other classes<shadow
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>>173523040
You can buff again When you evolve her?,,, holyshit shes best girl cerb you're Replaced
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>>173523000

Its the closest thing that Shadow has to competition.

>>173523072

The winrates have Dragon being the most competative, with the numbers not even being that far apart.
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>>173522102
Grimnir - increase the enhance effect by 1PP

Catacomb - change it into fanfare: give all catacombs last word: summon a skelly. Enhance(6): give all allied follower last word summon a skelly instead.

Zell - change its effect into an enhance (5) instead of evolve.
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>>173522937
dragon doesn't beat shadow unless they ramp perfectly and also shadow doesn't draw that well

its more like shadow>dragon>haven>shadow

haven actually beats shadow more often than not when they tech for it rather than just crying in here and refusing to change
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>>173522937
>the retarded poster that posted all day about how meme dealer is a thinking mans deck thinks dragon beats shadow
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>>173523124
Are you retarded?
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>>173523072
Shadow beats shadow pretty consistently
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>>173522930
>>173522938
Aggro Shadow was just T2 in RoB. It even dipped below 50% WR on Masters just before the nerf. You guys are actually insane.
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>>173523094
Thanks elf
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>>173523224
I dont know, I Never knew she double buffed so I guess I am retarded?..for not knowing something?
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>>173523036
Yes it was retard, for a time. Even game ai constantly shilled this shit
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>>173519013
>Running Ramp Dragon
>Lamp Dragon
Huh?
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>>173523223
>butthurt snek who wasted vials still can't accept dealer in his heart

How many vials?
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>>173522102

Grimnir: 2/2, Enhance effect hits for 4 damage on creatures only, not multiple 1 pings.
Sibyl: Doesn't grant an orb, 4/4
Aegis: Is no longer immune to untargetted effects. So board wipes remove the fucker, ToS cock blocks him, etc.
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>>173523260

I was >>173522930 and I was actually on your side.
Even DE tyrant will probably be considered T1 cancer by those retards now that some shadow decks are T1.
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>>173523343
0
I just don't play brainless gorilla decks.
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>>173522102
Catacomb: Can't give skelly to himself
Zell: Only storm to dragoncraft followers
Eachtar: Necromany 4, 4/5
Sybil: Heal on start of turn
Shadow Reaper: 1/2, gains +1/+0 on ally death
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Room number is 18215 Lets make it 10/20 and bring me half way there
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>>173523432
Gee, I wonder which craft is behind this post...
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>>173523291
Where does it say anywhere in the card description that she double buffs?
He clearly meant the stats you get from evolve, not that she gives another +2 to some other dude.
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>>173523458
I see, sorry m8.
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>>173523458
No need to get so butthurt, shadowbbs.

But seriously pretending aggro shadow was a weak deck is very typical of Luna jews.
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>>173523514
>Zell
That's actually a great nerf
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>>173523472
Oh, so you're the guy who was complaining about dealer being OP? kek
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>>173523583
Ohhh Okay okay Sorry yes I am retarded My Bad I read that totally wrong

I thought he meant that she buffs another random follower again after Evo
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>>173522907
No, it's too slow, weak to work as a meta deck while suffering badly from boardspace and sigil inconsistency.
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>>173523693
No. I just don't respect people that play aggro decks.
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>>173523692
It's almost like everyone was crying for this exact nerf since ToG
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>>173523767
t. Shitter
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>aegis is weak

How about GIT GUD FAGGOTS?
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>>173522907
Play Dshift instead.
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>non shadowfags are crying and crying and salty as fuck
>but somehow they claim it's the shadowfags that are throwing a shitfit in the thread
um??? can you bbs shut the fuck up already?
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>>173523767

Its ok, not everyone can be smart enough to play kys.
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>>173523873
Dick

Now
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>>173523669
It was no stronger than your typical bats deck.
The difference was that bats could win outside of their turn 6 "draw Cerb and Howl, deal 9 damage and hope you don't get outhealed/warded 11 damage combo".

It was just a test to see how lucky your draws are. Now it's more consistent in getting that 9 damage in with skelingtons.
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>>173523669
it just wasn't tier 1.

aggro shadow has always been the best shadow deck and tier 2 at its worst.
>>
18128
9/20, please help
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>>173523894
non even a shadowfag and i agree everyone else is shitting the threads more than the pedos, although you all honestly need to shut the fuck up
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38060
Need a concede!
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Can you guys explain the logic behing the nerf to catacomb where he can't put a skelly in himself? How does that change anything?
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>>173523873
>Low Masters

K
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>>173523894
Die shadowbab
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>>173523945
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Hy.640Hy.640Hy.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.60BfY.60BfY.60COa.60COa.60COa.67st2.67st2.67st2.6CsCi.6CsCi.6CsCi.60E5y.60E5y.60E5y.6BjSI.6BjSI.6BjSI.6BgWy.6BgWy.6BgWy.6FUfy.6FUfy.6FX6M.6FX6M.6FZYI.6FZYI.645Pw.645Pw.645Pw.60Bfi.60Bfi.6FZYS.6FZYS.6FZYS
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>>173523040
It's a 1/2 4 drop that needs to have a body on the board to buff and something it hits needs to be in range of the fanfare or trade. It's fine
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Is something wrong with this deck, because im bricking hard
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>>173523894

>disregard how shadowbabs poisoned the discussions for entire last thread
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>>173524092
I'M COMING UUUU
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>>173524191
>dark jeanne
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>>173524084
Other than being poor with nothing better to do, what's the point to farming masters exp after you get sleeves?
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>you crafted 3 gawains
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>>173524279
secretly op
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>>173523894
Just let them cry, it's the only thing they can do and ever do.
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>>173524374
>tfw unpacked 2 Gawains
>>
>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7mClj8VQAEtwJq.jpg:orig
viable when?
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>>173524279
>a card that takes skill to utilize
of course svg will make fun of it
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>>173524279
>before ToG
>memedealer
>after ToG
>shit guys I don't have any memedealer what do I do

Those >card posts are worthless
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>>173523692
I'd be happy. I could drop the neutral package for good.
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>>173524575
At least you won 2k vials.

I lost 10500
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GG vania sorry about being a stupid shadowbab, its really My only actual built deck and its worked well for me so far,

I was at 9/20 But now lets make it 10/20

18215
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>b-but /svg/ s-said aegis was good!!
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>>173524575
>tfw only unpacked 2 anomalies at the start
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>>173524249
I would take Attendant and 1 Goblin Princess out for more earlygame
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>>173523581
Swordcraft
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Can I get a concede for daily, please?

53853
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>>173522156
I used 30 fps fraps for recording and http://video.online-convert.com/convert-to-webm for conversion. There wasn't even a need to change video settings to get a low file size.
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>>173524575
>tfw unpacked three (3) sneks
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>finally a lego after opening one pack every say since release
>it's ginger

ayyyyyyy
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shadowfag, dragonfag, havenfag, whatever craft you fucking main i've seen them all bitch on these threads in extremes so it's pretty hypocritical to call anyone out on bitching/shitting the threads. can we all just shut up now?
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>>173524191
BLACKED Jeanne seems really useful if you just ignore the buff and focus on the AoE damage for control purpose. I expect her to rise in usage soon enough.
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>>173524562
We should enjoy it while we can. Soon Cygames will probably nerf Dragon and Shadow and Sword will be the best craft AGAIN anyway.
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>>173524874
shut up shadowbab
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>>173524062

I don't understand it myself. I guess it's so when they board wipe they only have to deal with 4 skellies? But sometimes having less of them is a bonus if the enemy has nothing on the board to kill a skelly with (ie: skellies into Eachtar).
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>>173524874
Just listen to the wise words of Sanford Kelly and pick a top tier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGh4ZU4H5Hk
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>>173524908
>sword

Its win rates are shit across the board.
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>Skull Beast
>Conjurer
>Catacomb
>Shadow.


>B-BUT RAMP DRAGON!
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>>173524705
Oh no, storm, my only weakness!
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>>173524874
Die swordbabs
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>>173524575
>>173524374
Is it me or does Gawain sound like a huge asshole?
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>>173524705
>Aegis deck didn't have a ToS

You got lucky and you know it you retard.
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>>173524874

Only shadowbabs are the problem. Dragonfags and havenfags have the decency to lay low.
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>that one gold card you want but never comes
>don' feel like creating because it feels stupid o waste 800 vials on gold cards

what's her name, svg?
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>>173525016
Same thing happened early RoB. You know how it works, you just need that one deck to die.
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>>173525130
Rahab and Salamandar are the best gold cards to craft.

Stop hoarding vials idioto.
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>>173524997
It's a huge deal for aggro because people adapting and wouldn't leave any followers on the board for him to buff. His usefulness diminishes with each skeletons. But nerfing just Catacomb wouldn't hurt Midrange too much because they can still recover from a bad early game.
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>>173525125
i dont know who wrote this post
>>173518819
but it definitely wasnt a shadowfag and it started this shitshow
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>>173525296
I still need to create one more sybil and another ouroboros mofo.
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>>173525130

the only stupid thing is you
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>can pretend I'm playing aggro shadow as suicide blood with a Baph'd Dealer + Laura + Razory claw on turn 6
Pretty fun deck, wish I had Belphegors though
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>Rowtard evolves rahab and ends his turn with 1pp left giving it 5 attack
>Giant slayer it
>Lethal
Ow

>>173525130
Rahab's solid. He shafts aggro, he's a great t3 play, an alright evo. he's an alright topdeck, Doesn't get fucking 3 def banished. He's basically a better imprisoned dragon.

>>173525394
Then grind arena. You should be getting good vial returns
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>unpacked 3 sneks
>3 gingers
>2 minthes
>1 anomaly

why couldn't they have been eachtars reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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anyone who says ramp dragon is worse than Aggro Shadow is a fucking cancerous Shadow player.
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>>173525121
>relying on shitty amulet that can be removed, can easily break your hand and lasts only 2 turns
spotted the retard
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>>173525394
Salamander will help your deck more than those will.
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>>173525394
Do you have 1 of them or 2?
If you have 2 of each that's fine, just craft rahabs
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>>173525394
>making ouroboros before rahab

still retarded
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>>173525130
i pulled 2 animated rahabs and 1 normal one and i don't even play dragon
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>>173525484
Sneks are good though and Ginger will eventually be, probably.
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>>173525130
Rahab ain't even worth running 3x. Overhyped shit card.
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>>173524784
pls respond
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>>173525507
>Amulet removal
>on any deck that actually has problems with Aegis

Spotted the Dragfag.
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>>173522102
Sibyl no longer heals
Grimnir costs 4 mana
Israfil no longer heals.
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>>173525415
>mfw getting hit by laura + devil of vengeance on turn 6
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>>173525485
Nobody has said that.
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what's with all the roachfags in ranked today?
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>>173525652
thanks Hag
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Is it really smart to drop dragon warrior?

I'm feeling like my deck lost too much early removal power.
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>>173525775
Just play Haven and shit out 15 wards every turn. They'll probably concede by turn 5 at most.
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>>173525681
me unga bunga uhhh
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>>173524705
so.... you beat a player that either was retarded and didn't have Test or had shit draw and couldn't draw/play it. Aegis decks never perform well vs storm and aggressive decks (the whole point is that they punish slow grinder decks and decks that don't push a lot of early damage) so you.. don't really have much to pat yourself on the back for. that's like an aggro commie shadow gloating over beating dshift, no shit the faster deck beats the one that does jack shit for 8 turns.
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>>173525836
Yeah, he sucks now. Run 2 rahabs, 3 grimmirs and 3 sybils for midgame control instead.
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>>173525670
shut the fuck up you retard, i play aegis haven and i threw this trash out of my decks a long time ago
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>>173525878
I don't really know how to nerf Dragon. Sibyl either needs to lose stats or lose healing and Israfil needs to lose something. Those two cards are overloaded and in general Dragon is more oppressive than Shadow is by design just due to how it works. Dragon smothers other control and midrange out of the game by being 2 mana ahead at all times, having nonstop aoe removal, and being able to heal off any would-be aggression. Honestly if it weren't for Eachtar and Catacomb then Shadow would be up shit creek too.
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>Tfw you forget about the existence of test of strenght and lose because you didn't trade since "I have lethal even if he drops a couple wards"

I miss when pics like this were made every week
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>>173526163
>dragon is more oppressive than shadow
stopped reading there
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>mill myself as d-shift
>draw death card
>you win
mfw opponent conceded 1 second before
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Need a concede my friends

26325
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>>173526163
I want cygames to nerf shadow, only because I want to see if ladder will be everyone vs dragon after it
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>dragon gets to 10 PP by turn 5
>healed 9 damage along the way
>drops 3 Grimnir in a row

This is some Dshift levels of interaction.
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>>173524575

>tfw unpacked 3 Alberts
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>>173526520
Were you against a Forte? That might have been me.
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>>173526491
Fine by me. Dragon is less cancerous and haven can deal with it.
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>>173526423
>shadow
>miss some 3 drop
>lose
>dragon
>oops I ramped once with Sybil and you didn't kill me yet, you lose
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What's better neutral dragon or dragon dragon?
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>>173526619
>tfw unpacked 3 animated pepe
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>>173525684
It definitely makes Vengeance seem dangerous now, even if most of these cards have been around since standard. Glad that there's something to use my 3 Dealers on, my initial deck this expansion was an attempt at a Bloody Mary OTK combo with Baph'd Dealers.
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Nuns.
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>>173526423
Just because Shadow wins more, it doesn't mean that Dragon isn't more cancerous. D-Shift typically has shit winrates overall but it still strangleholds slower decks into trying to win as quickly as possible. Dragon is the same shit but worse because the only real counterplay vs Dragon is "win faster" which is difficult to do when Dragon is two to three turns ahead of everyone and casually swatting away all of their aggression with heals and removal. At least Shadow mostly just focuses on the board and as tough as Prince Catacomb is, he can be dealt with through earlier, more aggressive trades and their later plays can be fought off through wards and heals. Shadow, like Sword, is a board focused class. Dragon does not give a shit about the board and that is much harder to counterplay.
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>>173526520

Just themis bro
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>>173526676
>haven
>deal with dragon

You can't even answer turn 4 Rahab without tribunal.
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>>173526469
Someone please
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>>173525507
>>173526163
>>173526745
post more of this young gal
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>>173526682
>dragon
>half of the deck is endgame
>don't early ramp and lose miserably
>shadow bricking when their highest card is a 7 cost
Ebin.
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>>173526929
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>>173526750
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Dragon also has high damage Storm options out the ass.

Dragon has Storm cards on par with Sword, better and more reliable healing than Haven, and a shitload of removal.
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>>173526745
How is she so perfect bros?
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>>173526520
We told you bro

>>173526745
Laelia and the battle nuns deck is powercreeped out of the game
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>>173526619
>tfw 1 animated
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>>173526980
It's still only 3 cards you can not draw. Without prince shadow is laughably easy to remove.
Dragon has 9 ramp cards at least, 2 of them heal you. Not to mention the Unica/Grimnir combo that absolutely slaughters any aggro attempt by shadow.
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Since we are talking about packs, I Have 1500 Rupies should I Use them all to buy like 15 TOG packs or just use 1000 and buy a leader?
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>>173527303
>Unica/Grimnir
It's current year gramps, nobody runs unica in ramp dragon.
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The amount of times I've got someone to 1 HP only for them to top deck some lucky fucking card is amazing. What the actual fuck? How do you deal with lucky shitters? God, fucking kill yourself runefags.
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>>173527353
Packs. Leader once you've filled yoru standard library from perpetual arena
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>>173527353
If you really want a leader, just get it.
Would stop you from worrying about it all the time at the very least. 5 packs isn't that much.
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Has anyone tried using Santa on ramp dragon? Does it work?
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>>173527303
6 of these ramp cards are 5 cost where you're already dead to aggro even after warding up
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>>173527353
do you need cards? buy packs.

if you don't need or don't care then buy leaders.
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>>173527424
Well that's your problem.
Not running Odin wasn't Nep's fault either.
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Rerolled into this.

What do I do now?
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>>173525130

I always craft golds x2 and legos x2 because the game fucking knows when you craft x3 of something and decides to give it to you in your next pack.

As of now, x2 Alwidas, x2 Themis, x2 Neps and x2 Levis
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>>173518790
Cute not Lou tier
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>>173527489
It's too slow and it's unecessary
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>>173526163
They need to completely lose at least one of their early defensive cards along with some of their healing. I think nerfing Sibyl to 1hp per turn and making Rahab a 6pp 3/6 would help a lot.
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>>173527632
holy shit those are some meme legendaries
you might want to keep rerolling
or if you hate yourself make a snek dek
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>>173518790

>Anime toast

Was that always there? I don't remember
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>>173527479
>>173527485
>>173527509
Ah I meant which packs should I get should I go all in on the new Expac Or go for the older ones, Or buy heros but the leaders option is voted against, so I wont buy those
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>>173527632

Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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>>173527795
I do hate myself quite a bit, so that's something to look into.
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>>173527750
>6pp 3/6

Absolutely fucking useless. The only reason he's played is because he's 4pp. I don't even play dragon but those "changes" are absolutely retarded.
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>olololol catacomb AFTER another catacomb! I win the game lmao

Nerf this shit fucking card already.
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>>173527710
Who is that semen demon?
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>>173527710
why is lou friends with a succubus
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r8 my ptp shadow deck
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>>173527954
nah nerf dragon instead
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>>173528014
lou is actually short for lewd, that's why
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>>173527989
>>173528014
She is being thought the pleasures of being cummed inside of
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>>173527863
Non-standard to fill up your silvers then whatever you need the most from with the highest power level. Arena grinding will do your standard.

>>173527954
Run your board clear loser
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>>173527928
>Absolutely fucking useless.
That's the point. The designers fucked up by designing cards to let Dragon always survive the early game, because obviously any aggressive deck that loses to ramp is worthless. Dragon can't be allowed a perfect defensive curve from 3 to 5, so something has to go.
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>>173526163
this 100%
I don't think cygame will hit any legos though
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>>173527954
>olololol Albert AFTER another Albert! I win the game lmao
>olololol Dorothy AFTER another Dorothy! I win the game lmao
>olololol roach AFTER another roach! I win the game lmao
>olololol ramp AFTER another ramp ! I win the game lmao
>olololol Dshift AFTER another Dshift! I win the game lmao
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>>173527954
>>173528028

Nerf Grimnir and everything will be fine. I want it to still hit face but remove his ward entirely.
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How do you nerf Dragon when their decks are full of legos? Are they gonna nerf legos for the first time now?
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>>173522102
Lighting blast enhance 10 is destroy other followers and amulets, only banishes the main target.
Or Siybl is a 4/4 that costs 6
Eachtar now only gives +2, no rush or shit like that.
Aegis is a 10 PP 7/7
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>>173528174
>run a turn 5 clear
>spawn 5 skeletons
>he catacombs again
Great
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>>173528234
>>173528028

Shadow is the only problematic class right now
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>>173527954

Just kill the minions before Prince faggot comes into play. Even if I'm playing aggro something I make sure Shadow doesn't gets a favorable T3 Catacomb. Makes everything else much easier
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>>173527475
They believed in the heart of the cards...and were rewarded for it.
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>>173528216
>3 mana follower a win condition comparable to albert and dshift
>shadowtards see no problem with this
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>>173528014
It's Nightmare.

Look up the mysteria academy stuff
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>>173528201
5 hp coupled with ramp it the problem. Maybe make it 3/4 instead, but then he get's cleared but most 2 drops.
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>>173528014
Lou is majoring in dicksucking.
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>>173527475
How do you know they topdecked it?
In blood especially it's possible that they spent just enough hp to kill you next turn with something in their hand.
If it was something else, that's why demonic and dance of death are so good.
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>>173528234
The problem aren't the legendaries though. Well, probably Sibyl but they can get around that.
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>>173528232

What if Grimnir were an Enhance(8) but hitted the whole field?
>>
>turn 1 drop
>you pass
>turn 2 drop
>you drop a follower too
>catacomb
Going second is literally instalose if they get to catacomb.
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>>173528425
Yugi really does look like the butt baby of pikachu and shadow the hedgehog.
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>8 Drop
>3 Damage on Fanfare
>3 Heal on Death
>Replaces in Hand
>on a fucking 8/4 body
>ONLY EIGHT POINTS

Who the FUCK though making Ouroboros anything but a 9-10 drop was balanced.
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>>173528427
>let me pick the 2 most refutable out of all those other choices.
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>>173528309
What skellymens?
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>>173528309
>kill their followers with your followers
>wipe all the skellies that popped out with barrage
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>60% win rate storm ramp

lol nerf fucking when?
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>>173528216

oy vey
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>>173528627
he's just a glorified carrot bro
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>>173528634
Dorthy costs 9 mana and requires spellboosting. Roach is a fucking combo card. Your other examples are too retarded and nonsensical to be worth replying to.
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>>173528627
Even then it's still fucked. The heal is insane and basically breaks all non-TotG decks
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>everyone says storm ramp is the shit
>have better winrate with saha luci
Explain this shadowbaby
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>>173528734

is it better than saha ramp?
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>>173528734

Storm Ramp is just regular ramp but with Zell and Forte

It's never getting nerfed
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>>173528640
You cannot trade evenly against shadow if they t4 Orthus when going first. There is no possible opening to counter their perfect ones, therefore Shadow is the first t0 in the history of this game.
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>blood daily
>face 2 blood in a row
>no sweat entire game
>kill me the same way both times on last turn before my lethal
>im on 5 health and they throw down an evolve storm minion the turn before my own lethal
>first match killed me with commander
>second match killed me with lancer
>3rd match is shadowbabs and my mulligan gave me 2 imp lancers and alucard

ONE OF THOSE
>T I L T
DAYS HUH? FUCK THIS GAME
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>>173528734
Never because people would rather play dumb, greedy shit like Saha-Luci than just win the fucking game.
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>>173528536

I think Grimnir should retain all the stats and effect, just increase the enhance effect by 1PP (now 11PP).
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>>173528627
or odin are the only answers
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>>173528784
>Dorothy
>9pp

Don't pretend like turn 4/5 Dorothy wasn't common as fuck.
They are just fucking 1/1s just fucking trade into them instead of going face.
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>>173528823
Inflated winrate because it has very low playrate. Don't fall for idiots.
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>>173528391
Sometimes it's impossible if they're going first
Same as you can't prevent a 4/5 or 5/6 Ancient Elf if they're going first sometimes
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>>173528940

Dorothy is just a worse nep. In came down on average turn 6. So you can literally just thermis it bro.
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>>173528940
Everyone does that you retard. It doesn't matter when they can drop two 1s and a catacomb turn 5 and make an unclearable board out of nothing.
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>>173528940
this is exactly why no one trusts you shadowbabs
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>>173528823
you probably play it like a control deck
ramp and start going face as soon as possible
zell a sibyl if you have to and finish with forte or genesis or zell ouro or whatever
you have so much face damage that it's ridiculous
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Should I liquefy a Golden Gabriel? Sorry for newfagging.
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>>173528851
>therefore Shadow is the first t0 in the history of this game.
That sounds nice, hope what you said is true and not just overreacting.
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>>173528824

Yes. All the "popular" decks are shittier versions of the good ones.

Csword is better than pepe
Midrange Shadow is better than Aggro
Storm Ramp is better than Saha
KYS is better than snek
Wolfbolt is still the best Forest deck and perfectly competitive
I don't know about Storm Haven but it seems to be better than Aegis if you draw perfectly, at least against Dragon. Probably gets rekt by shadow.
>>
Playing against dragon
> shit

He use orb increaser and sibyl
> shit, it's dragon ramp

He use prince of darkness
> Oh shit .., wait

I draw another seraph
> let's see how many lightning blast you had before prince
> too bad, only one.

Why play Prince of darkness when you :
- do nothing for one turn
- only have 1/10 chance to get the good card
Your following cards are predictable, and if you don't kill within 10 turns, you autolose.
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>>173528873
You're aware Storm Ramp plays Saha?
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>>173529258

>Golden

Sorry but you have to go back.
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>>173529258
Gabriel got power creeped by a gold card. (Arriet)
I'd say vial her unless you really like the card.
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>>173529285
HOW DARE YOU
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>tfw fell for the 3x Tsubaki meme
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>>173529102
>playing 3 cards a turn
And then they run out of steam.
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Whoever defends prince of catacombs as a legit card needs to be shot.
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>>173529324
Yes, mainly Saha-Baha with Zell enabling burst.
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>>173529407
Expect not because they can Soul Conversion their free skeletons.
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>>173529358
But I hate Hearthstone.
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Any good storm ramp deck list?
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>>173529407
It doesn't matter when their 1 card provides more value than your 3.
For some reason it's okay for shadow to have half the cards in their deck be single card board floods.
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>>173529458
But they still run Israfil and usually 1 Lucifer just because it's such a good tempo play with 7PP if you've ramped.
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>>173529434
It's legit good. Deal with it.
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can we please focus on the real issue here

haven has jackshit except their turn 9 to nothing, how can you expect it to counter shadow
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>>173529614
Israfil is a board wipe that also chips face, so yeah why wouldn't they?
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>>173529641
You need to run all the meme removal that is auto lose against anything that isn't Shadow
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>>173529547
OUT OUT
AND STAY AWAY FROM MY WAIFU
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>>173529434
Just deathmist dragon bro
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>>173529591
>played 3 cards
>suddenly 1 card
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>>173529641
Play Ritual, Lion, Grimnir, Dark Jeanne, Themis, Cudgel, Judge, BLACKED.
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>>173529641

The existance of Haven makes Shadow run Sexton, an underwhelming 2drop that does nothing except vs Haven and Dragon if it ever comes down to them having a 10pp play to begin with.

If it weren't for the Hag, Luna would have a 65% winrate, i'm sure
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>>173529641
And their board wipes, cheap banishes and removal. Kys
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>>173529749
>having archangel as a waifu
Anon?
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>>173529591
Yeah, flooding the board with shit. Did you even try it in RoB? You couldn't do anything with it, everything survived killing your shit. Then your hand was empty and you died.

>>173529814
And best card
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>>173529865
>If it weren't for the Hag, Luna would have a 65% winrate, i'm sure
This
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>blood mirror
>both of us taking ourselves to vengence by turn 4 and it just becomes a game of who can storm who faster
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So why hasn't anyone teched in angelic barrage yet?
Is it another case of "b-but it's useless against o-other match ups" argument dragoncucks are particularly fond of?
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>>173529865
>>173530012
I wonder, does forbidden ritual help against shadowcraft?
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>>173530084
>3 cards to counter 40 cards
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>>173530084
>JUST SPAWN MORE SKELETONS XD
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>>173530119
Yes. Not so much against midrange though, which is the superior deck anyway.
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>mfw dragon and shadow cucks arguing among themselves like they're not both fucking cancer
Like Luna's parents, your decks will be dead after the next hotfix.
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Im thinking of buying 5 packs from standard 5 from ROB and 5 from the new Expac
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>>173527692
Impressive, you managed to sound even more retarded than the person you replied to, quite the feat if I might add.
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>>173530171
>trade into stuff
>skeletons spawn
>barrage

Don't tell me those 1/1s killed all your dudes already instead of going face.
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>>173530084
I've seen lots of top streamers do it to some success, even Midrange Shadow runs fucking Necroelementist now for that 1 damage AoE. Aggro is very easy to disrupt which is why none of the Shadow lists that did well in tournaments are aggro.
>>173530119
It fucks aggro hard but midrange can still recover.
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>>173530378
>just trade bro
If shadow goes first there's nothing you can do to prevent t3 catacomb into 2 followers.
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Who thought Ouroboros was a good idea?
>either get hit for 8 damage or kill it and restore the opponent for 3
>it's 8PP, but because this is Dragoncraft, it can get played as early as turn 5 (possibly earlier but I haven't done the math on that), where you'd have to evolve most followers to deal with it or just so happen to have a DoD ready, and even then they can just play it again next turn
I suppose you can banish it, but banishment stuff is few and far between.
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>>173530235
Yeah because Daria totally died after the PR nerf, right?
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>>173530527
>opponent got an absolutely perfect curve why did I lose?
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>>173530538
8drop odin to counter 8drop ouroboros, nothing special. Where is the problem. It's like seraph.
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>tfw fell for the kys Blood meme and wasted all of my vials

You assholes, I thought this deck was supposed to be good!
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>>173530378
>trade into stuff
>Implying you have a board to use
They're always ahead on board
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>>173530084
>tech in Angelic Barrage
>does nothing against every other deck
>does next to nothing against Shadow because of how easily they can flood the board again
Nice """""tech""""""
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>>173530650
can't play seraph on turn 5 though
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>>173530467
>Necroelementist

Yeah I saw some netdecks already using this shit because it also clears a Grimnir by itself. I'm not really sold desu. I prefer chimeras and trading those skeletons into their skeletons myself for reaper gains.
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>>173530467
>runs fucking Necroelementist
I saw someone run that earlier and thought he was just retarded. I guess it does work well enough.
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>>173530538
>/svg/ now complains about a 8 pp demonic strike carrot
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guys I need One more private match to break 2000 Rupies it needs to be a quick match because I have to leave in a bit 74635 is the room number.
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>>173530621
Yeah because it's so hard to get a 1 and 2 drop as shadow.
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>>173530084
What are you gonna do against the zombies then?
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>>173530673
It "is" good.
It's just difficult to play. It's also a bad matchup against aggro necro.
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>>173530859
>It's just difficult to play
Please stop posting
There's nothing difficult about playing an unga aggro deck.
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>>173530673
>expecting a blood deck to be good
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>>173530845
Aggro doesn't run zombies.
Midrange is another problem entirely, but it also has less 1 drops as well.
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>>173530740
Then punish him because he skip 4 turn doing nothing, but using dragon orb. Kill him in turn 5.
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>>173530859
>It's just difficult to play
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>>173530942
>unga aggro
It's not even aggro. What?
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>>173530952
Nobody runs aggro anyway.
I've been facing nothing but midrange for the past few days.
Once they hit t7 the floods don't stop.
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>>173530859
It's not difficult to play, it just gets absolutely shit on by Shadow which is half of the ladder.
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>>173531015
>ends most games by turn 6
>not aggro
Are you mentally retarded?
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>>173530673
It's great if you're suicidal.
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>>173530673

The problem is you. It beats every deck except Shadow but no deck beats Shadow consistently.
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>>173530845
Lion/WotF/Horde/Matriarch/Revelation/Cyclone/Themis/Grimnir/Bahamut/Blast
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>>173531015
Didn't you get the memo?
If your deck wins by dealing damage it's unga as fuck.

Only the true chemosister seraph is patrician tier, others monkeys need to evolve already.
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>>173531097
So can Dshift, Is that aggro too buddy?
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>>173531051
Well according to the previous comments, everyone runs aggro with double catacombs on turn 3 and 4, while they do nothing and just look at the board flood because killing them will just spawn more skeletons.
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>>173531097
Midrange sword does the same thing.
We still call it midrange sword. It uses a curve of stat heavy minions instead of flooding the board with tokens.
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>>173531186
Post list
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>>173531194
D-shift needs absolute god draw to be able to do that. It's definitely not a thing that happens in most games.
>>173531238
Midrange sword regularly went to turn 9 and ended with the le ebin 10 damage man
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>>173531193
>not just making the opponent deck out with dirtrune
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God, kinda sad to get my 5th aurelia, still waiting for the first lucifer.
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>so I lol drop 1pp and 2pp then lmao next turn I drop cataomb then orthus then kek doest matter if the clears coz more skelly lololol if he still alive I use cerb and phatom lmao and eachtar if he has storm I zombie ward ollolol then eachatar agein lmfao game over

God, I wish I was skilled enough to be a Luna shitter.
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>>173531191
Now they have another board, your turn.
And before you hit that themis button, remember that they have 10+ one card boardfloods and if you let any of them stick you're taking 12+ damage
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>>173531357
>Midrange sword regularly went to turn 9 and ended with the le ebin 10 damage man
It just ends the game by turn 6 these days. Double attack Albert is sometimes a finisher, but you can usually end the game before that, especially if you get alwida's and fangblade.
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>suffered with shadow through DE
>limped with Nep through RoB
>finally can enjoy midrange shadow without feeling like I'm gimping myself and without being a filthy bandwagoner in ToG

I'm not going to apologize. I deserve everything.
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>>173531429
when they release seer's globes i'm making 3x animated aurelia
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Tell me /svg/ how do I make she good? She seems very fun and I would like to take her for a spin, give her some wins.
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>turn 1 goblin
>turn 2 spartan
>turn 3 catacom
>turn 4 orthus

Menu, concede.

zzz
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>>173531552
since when albert wears a skirt
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>>173531527
That's the reason it's more commonly known as """""midrange""""" sword. It would be called aggro sword if a slightly more aggressive version didn't already exist.
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>>173531410
>ToG
>dirt
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>>173531528
And we are getting more story chapters before the hag even get one.
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>>173531623
I've tried playing Satancat's list.
Lost to 4 Bahazells in a row because you literally can't do anything against dragon early game and just letting them ramp.
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thane is such a fucking busted card. why did they make shadow the literal god class?
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>>173531528
>Oy vey, remember da banishcaust! We deserve to be da chosen peoples!
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>>173531830
The game is called SHADOWverse for a reason, anon.
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>>173530084
Angelic barrage is too slow without additional aoe. If you take enough blood flood and board clear to shut them down, you're dead againt shifters, control, dragon, and midrange that can actually win
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>Be me
>New
>Beginner Rank 2
>Facing Aggro-Shadowniggers
You guys told me I wont get raped at beginner ranks
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>>173530378
You probably don't have a wide enough board so they end up chipping you down with othrus and catacomb into dreath undying eachtar

>>173530673
You're the meme dude.
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>>173532004

I am sorry my friend. We wish to remove all shadowniggers too.
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>>173531828
You run both Grail and Satan? seems overkill, can you post the list?
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>>173531923
Didn't you get the memo? Shadow is commie now, so you need to update your jokes.
You should mention the siege of Stalingrad or something like that instead.
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>hear about how amazing dragon is in ToG
>fight against midrange shadow
>he fills the board faster than daria, if you remove it generates more followers, has bullshit buffs, wards and storm units that can kill out of nowhere
>killed before ramping

Wooooooah

Dragon is sooooo strong

svg being completely retarded again
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>>173531097
>kys
>ending games by turn 6
>let alone a majority of games

I wish. Most of my wins are from turn 7, Laura/Dealer combos. Its actually really hard to win before turn 6 because you don't actually start doing damage until turn 4. I keep hearing that this deck wins before turn 6 but that just isn't the case, unless you count surrenders.

>>173531238
Except Sword is the definition of unga bunga. Unga bunga hit face. That's basically what kys does except its more storm face oriented, like storm haven or forte.

Doesn't mean that the deck is completely brainless. It requires more thought than the average bunga deck because you really have to balance your own HP with how much damage you can do. Bad players will dealer at the wrong time and crumple.

>>173531256

This is my current list. I think a lot of the cards are interchangeable with other techs. Deck space is incredibly tight. I've been swapping Yurius with DoD or Barrage but its hard to tell what the proper tech is. Yurius doesn't do enough against shadow funnily enough.
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>>173532004
People netdeck and play meta from the second they step into ranked now.
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>>173531623
Unplayable in the meta. Blame kikegames for the 1 deck per archetype autolose matchups
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>>173532119
Nope, just grail.
I guess it can work well against anything not dragon or dshift.
Won against shadow aggro but then the game just spammed me with dragons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZVstPbV-rc
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>>173531410
[Bahamut Intensifies]
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What should I dust to build control blood or control sword?
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>>173532135

Commies are jews.
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>>173532224
Doesn't Baphomet screw up Airjammer's pulls?
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>>173532224
No Masks of Black Death?
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13919

i need a concede, onegai!
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>>173531946
It's just beyond ridiculous at this point. If you're not spamming heals like Haven or Dragon you can't keep up with the burn from Thane if they have any board beforehand.

Especially with how much chip they can get in because of Catacombs and leaving anything on board on t7 is asking to take huge damage from Eachtar. That's of course assuming you don't die to PH+Howl on t6.
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>>173532371
>control blood or control sword?
Don't do this to yourself anon.
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>>173531410
>TotG
>Dirt stalling
Literally what? In D rank against literally garbage decks maybe.

>>173532371
Dust your fucking stupidity. Get into arena and get grinding vials. You'll get there soon enough without fucking yourself.
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Death's Ledger is objectively the most overpowered card released this expansion, holy shit. 2 of these fucks and I had to deal with 5 liches.
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Reminder that it is common decency to rope shadows when you face them.
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>>173532402
jesus christ you're right
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>play forest against lmao midrange shadow
>get my ass raped, put down to 3 hp
>have two roaches in hand, can pull something if lucky
>drop ancient elf for protection
>he uses 2 (two) phantom howls and kills me

Kill all the Lunas.

Everyone that plays this bullshit retarded class needs to be raped.
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>>173529641
Is this bait? Elana and Elana Seraph outheal and banish all those death spawns.
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>>173532547
>death ledger
>good
nigga what
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>>173531528
Amen but
>Nep
Fag
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>>173532371
Control Sword is dead.
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>>173532371
Both are bad in the current meta. Why would you even want to?
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>>173532547
>They play Death's Ledger
>pull 2 Attendants
Is it Shadow """""""""rng""""""""? I know he was playing Unicas and Spartoi Sergeants because he used them later.
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>>173532371
>build control blood or control sword?

I mean build for friendly play in unranked or ladder?

Because if you meant for ranked competition get ready to become a rape victim.
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>>173532639
>Roachshitter talking about cancer
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>>173532639
i take delight in the forest genocide
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>>173532869
lmao
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>>173532432
thanks Jeanne bro!
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>>173532403
I'd rather have vengeance consistency over Airjammer. Airjammer is good but it isn't your wincon and people put way too much emphasis on it. Baphomet searches dealer, which sets up your turn 7 laura finisher. Airjammer isn't even that good without being in vengeance so cutting Baphomet and is counter productive.

>>173532405

No, that's terrible. Once you're in vengeance you don't have time to play amulets. You keep your face safe by putting beefy followers that have to be answered.
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>>173532784
Last 2 times I faced a ledger deck, they always pulled a Lich spawn every single time. I assumed the deck composition allowed for no error but who knows, it could be a faulty RNG seed if it enver picks anything else. Though I have no proof since my sample size is 2 games.
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>>173532869
Does nothing when the zombie party comes to town?
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>the only counter to midrange shadow is using haven's candelabra + forbidden ritual meme deck
>but the deck is so shitty you might even lose in the end

Make it fucking stop.

Fucking Luna shitters commit suicide already. You deserve to die.
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>>173533142
>the card has counters, it's shit

What about the time they DON'T have Orthrus? At the very least it will be a pseudo ward for their 2/2s
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>>173532784

It only pulls shadow followers.
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Is it bad if I want to do things with Luna, Vampy and Unica?
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>svg anon in tourney
lets go loj
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>>173532869
>What are 2-drops, 2PP removal, Grimnir and Orthus?
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>>173533341
Things like take them out for ice cream and pat their heads?
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>>173533481
Sure, that too
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>>173532670
I actually switched to a LW midrange with LotF during the end of midrange too because I just got tired of restricting myself with Nep.

I want a satan-esque bug lego for shadow and more bug support in general. Maybe throw in some arachnid girls too.
>>
68476

Need someone to concede to me really quick, much appreciated
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>>173533320
>wanting to counter their deck with a card that they can counter themselves
That's not how it works.
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>>173533372
where
>>
sword dailies in ranked are impossible against shadow. they better not take 2 months to fix this.
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Any kind soul want to concede?

49098
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>>173533701
That looks pretty fun. How did it work?
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>>173533761
twitch excelsiorvindi
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>>173533818
Oh they will.
>>
This may sound weird to non forest players, but roach is actually useless in this meta, any chip for wolfbolt just gets healed and vs aggro/mid shadow its dead weight. Crystalia Lily seems GOAT though, and grimnir is your only chance at chipping and defending all in one. Thats how dumb this meta is...
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>>173533831
thanks
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>>173533892
Basically corpses, attendants, carrots, urds, thighs, finishing with Kamura and LotF as the 7 drops. It worked pretty well against sword too.

Tried a more control variant but it was too slow.
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what is the new way to play aggro/face sword? just losing to everything new right now
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>>173534110

They don't listen. We all know too well that roach is falling off while those deniers are still using ">muh design space" argument. We desperately need something better than roach and AE.
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>>173533708
Thank you roo buddy
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>>173534110
Only Haven and Dragon can stand a chance against Shadow, that's why you see so much hate towards them in this thread full of Shadow players.

Any other class doing poorly is to be expected, except maybe Blood.
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>>173533818
The only way I've managed to do Sword dailies in ranked in under an hour is to play Gerocraft and hope you get lucky.
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Does anyone have a cheap aggro blood deck list for me?

I don't have much but want to get quests done as blood
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>>173532339
I lack one baha and one grail from his list, what could I replace them with? I have no satan, in case you tell me to use that to replace.
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>>173534483

Obligatory.
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>>173534238
AE is finally considered decent and not overstatted, as everything in the game has a ridiculous turn 3 card now...Roach is dead weight now that there are actually good Wards across the board.
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>>173533818
>>173534489
Sword is good. So long as you're not using meme cards like frog and gaywain
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>>173534483
>m-my deck isn't strong
>it's t-those f-fucking sh-shadowbabs complaining

Every time.
Haven was using the "haven is honest you're just an angry shadowjew" argument for months, good to see dragoncucks joining in too. As if other classes has literally zero complaints about either.
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>>173534227
This is the only sword deck I had a positive winrate with so far.
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/866/nge-shadowverse-na-open-week-one-top-8-ms-noah-midrange-swordcraft
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>>173534715
Roach isn't dead weight, it's just used differently now. It's mostly used to remove big threats now while you prepare for White Wolf.
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Find lethal
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>>173534723
can you post your list? csword and unga sword can't seem to win in masters, it's all mid shadow.
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>>173534879
no it fucking isn't
>>
>>173534642
2 grails should be enough. You can fill in your early curve and bring some cards to 3 copies perhaps. Maybe some more removal.
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I thought kys Blood was supposed to be the secret OP deck of the expansion like Roach OTK, when is it going to take off guys?
>>
>>173533818
>>173534489
https://twitter.com/tikiposo/status/848160841526423554
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>>173535035

Only if they nerf shadows into the ground.
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>>173534591
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>>173534879
Roach isn't going to remove anything useful like Bahamut though, and forest already has a rush follower for removal with fairy Knight. Roach is still decent and would run 1 or 2, but right now 3x can cause problems.
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I can't believe they fucking thought Eachtar was ready for release
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>>173535042

>Grimnir in a deck
>Again

Damn I hate that card so much. The only way to fix it is to increase the enhance effect by 1PP.
>>
>>173534898
all 4 cerb spells = 8 dmg so haven is at 7
attacking with both followers = 6 damage, 1 hp left
soul conversion on thane to make wight deal the last point

not very tricky desu
>>
>>173535198
>using fairy knight
yeah a 4 mana blitz lancer is a great card that definitely sees play
>>
>>173535035

Its being held down by shadow. It is secret OP because when shadow and dragon get nerfed all the shitters whining about aegis will suddenly get big fat dealer dick in their ass.
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>>173535035
use mastema
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>>173535182
thank you mate
>>
>>173535042
this is the list i'm using too, it was okay against aggro shadow but the death's breath from mid is a real cockblock and if you can't clear it then eachtar wins the game.or they play thane and start getting in chip while they clear your board. the extra ward from goblin princess is annoying too but at least that can be hit by tsubaki.
>>
>>173534723
It's literally this
>>173534797
Except a few adjustments. Main one being I added a 3rd tsubaki for guaranteed dragon rape.
I've also tried using lyrial like
>>173535042
She works well too.
>>
>>173535332
I'm using it with success, it gives you a fairy and removal all in one so it keeps you at 8 cards for wolfbolt. It's not a shit card in the slightest, I run 2x of with great success.
>>
>>173532804
Dunno about Sword but Cblood is doing more than fine.
>>
>>173535518
but it's literally a worse statted albert that can't go face and has no enhance effect

what are you thinking
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the standard pack was a bit disappointing for all animated but tog made up for it
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>>173534902
See
>>173535480
>>
>>173535529

hi d0
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>>173535518
it's a very bad card that is terribly statted a 3/2 for 4 that gives you a 1/1 for 1. if the fairy was free it could useful but as it is it suffers from the tax too much it's a bad card
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Buff Satan.
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>>173535585
Different classes with different wincons/endgoals, find a better rush card in forest that gives you a +1 fairy. Wait, are you being sarcastic?
>>
>>173535585
>>173535656

He is running fairy knight instead of roach, the only thing keeping forest alive. He doesn't really play forest at all.
>>
>>173535228
No one cried about him being OP before release either. He's just a very solid card on his own but it only gets ridiculous when he synergizes with the crazy amount of board floods released in ToG.
>>
>24dmg OTK against wallet dragon with magical big guy
Feels so good.
>>
>>173535893
It's that combined with the fact that he was "fair" with Shadow's previous level of shadow generation. Catacombs just pushes him over the edge because he gives them so many extra shadows.
>>
>>173535815
It's over for Santa, her anime's already finished.
>>
Umaru collab when?
She would be good as a haven leader
>>
>>173535893
I made fun of him because
>having board in removalverse
>having 12 shadows by turn 7
but then Catacomb fixed everything.
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wow this deck is still good :~)
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>>173535656
Its really isn't a bad card when your endgoal is to stall and chip and keep your hand to 8 cards till you can Wolf/bolt safely. Think of it as an easier to play roach that's used for removal that gives you a fairy, it really does the job well, but its ok if you disagree I'll keep running what works for me.
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I would rather go against pre PR nerf Daria than the current Shadow decks plaguing ranked. I wanted to finish my last 2 classes to lvl 100 after Dragon but ladder is literally unplayable right now.
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Anyone want to be alive?
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>>173535815
>>173536124
Kill yourselves.
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>>173535891
he might play it a lot in sandbag ranks
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>open first card in a pack
>it's an animated bronze
>"oh shit, is this an animated pack?"
>nope, it's just another 7 bronze 1 silver with a single animated bronze
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>>173536124
Only if we get Ebina as the Rune leader.
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Roland really should be 5pp.
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>>173533481
>tfw never have a cool southern tomboy niece like Vampy to drive to football practice while she tells you about her day

>>173533701
How are you managing to create a value gap to cover lord's drop and his RNG bullshit as well as protect him?

>>173535035
Never if you never gitgud
>>
>>173536207
>pre PR nerf Daria
>instead of 3 skeletons you get Dorothy, 2 gazers and a blader on turn 4

Yeah no.
>>
>>173536421
Run Gawain.
>>
I kinda wanna try this game but everyone here seems to be implying it's in a bad place whereas HS just got an amazing expansion. Should I even bother?
>>
>>173536220
>alive
>fake vengeance

The only way to feel alive is to live on the edge
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>>173536308
>mad at anime in an anime site
>>
>enemy dragoncuck so mad I just ignored his ebin ouroboros and hit his face to kill him that he ragequits and I have to wait over a minute

kek
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>>173535891
I never said i didnt run roach, I said how it feels to run roach nowadays can feel like dead weight. This is my list, not to different from what everyone else is running.
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>>173536463
Daria was at least weak to board clears and didn't have as much burn to go through wards like the Thane build.

CSword against Daria was possible, CSword against Mid Shadow feels impossible.
>>
>still no 9 million dl rewards
Lmao, and this is with inflated reroller numbers. Game's dead as fuck.
>>
>>173536207
Send cygames a link to the livestream of your suicide then
>>
>>173536463
Just ignore him.
>>
>play in the most defensive manner possible as Sword against Shadow
>doing great
>answer everything perfectly
>at 16 health on turn 7
>lose anyways
Pedotumors will defend this.
>>
>>173536494
>unironically liking shitty meme girls
>>
>>173536486
Just give it a try if you want, it costs nothing to play the game and Cygames are being very generous to F2P players.
>>
>>173536321
Nah I'm AA3 with 20k away from masters and all I go up against is serious players, and that's where my views come from.
>>
Luna shitters are:

- pedophiles;
- like to play cheap crap;
- rejoice in winning with cards that obstructs the game balance;
- have victim complex;
- cowards.

Gas yourself if you play shadow.

You don't deserve to breathe the same air as everyone else here.
>>
>>173536486
No.Don't waste your time. It's even harder to quit once you've sunk a lot of time into it to be able to actually play some decks.
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>>173536463
ignore him.

he was bitching about yurius too
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>>173536593
Sometimes I wonder why you're so obssessed with me? Are you like a pervert cereal killer?
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>>173536421
>/svg/ in charge of balance

That would be the most OP card Cygames ever released.
>>
>>173536705
>he is in /svg/
>he is NOT into Luna and Vampy

Reddit is that way friendo
>>
>173536705
you should stop being so obsessed with shadow and this game and go do something else my dude
>>
>>173536421
You have to understand they will never buff a card in an online TCG, they will only ever nerf one. If they wanted to buff a card they would just print a new card.
>>
>losing majority of my games because my starting hand is full of 4-6pp drops
Anyone let me beat his ass for daily win and 20 private games to let me forget about above shit?
26179
>>
Brand new here. Do the rails ever come off on the story mode stuff? Is it even worth doing?
>>
>>173536486
From what i hear yes HS got a fun installment IF you can spend 400$ on its expansion, feel free to go there and enjoy the game!
>>
>>173536951
the nexus battle can be hard with starter decks sometimes
yes it's worth it
>>
>>173536951
you get a lot of free shit and locked crads inside of the story mode.

so yes you should do it
>>
>>173536983
Only 400 for the entire expansion? That's kinda alright then.
>>
>>173536751
It's not an obsession when I keep seeing you continue to refuse to drop your name and pass or fuck off to reddit instead of shitting up an anonymous imageboard with your autistic filth.

>>173536951
Yes, they get pretty cool later. You gets cards, gold, vials, and tickets.
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>tfw skelly rush in Arena
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>don't ramp
>lose
Really gets that noggin jogging.
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>>173536486
read about reroll and have fun m8.

you can't go in HS because you would need to pay 200shekels just to see the the play screen.

>bad place
Is just crybbs they want to whine about something
>>
>>173536751
>He thinks its only one person

This is bait right? No one can be this stupid
>>
>>173537047
Go for it my dude, if you can afford it then it's 100% the better choice from what I've heard and seen.
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>>173537058
So you're like a stalker? Sorry buddy but I don't swing that way you know what I'm saying?
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Need concede pls.
89120
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>>173536569
>daria didn't have as much burn to go through wards
>3 piercing runes
>3 demonic strikes, yes they were played
>3 levi
>DoD
>not enough burn to go through wards

Not to mention that you'd be dead long before turn 7.
Most of the time you just drop thane on an empty board and don't get any benefit out of the wrights.
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>Haven player so mad about shadow he literally put an owlcat in his deck
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>>173537178
It's the same guy every time. It's kinda sad but I think he needs to go outside and do something better with his time.
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I just played vs the new Rune cancer deck.
Daria, Chimera, Mammoth Amulet, Flame Destroyers, Sorcery Cache. I almost lost thinking it was Daria shift because of the cache played early.
>>
>>173537183
You have heard and seen wrong.

Hearthstone is so RNG heavy, it's not even funny anymore.
At this point it's like 2% skill.
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>173536705
I'm so sorry you spent your entire paycheck into this game expecting some free wins only to get dominated by something much cheaper.
>>
>>173536705
Remember this is JUSt a game, if it makes you this mad you shouldn't be playing it at all, go play Babys first card game I.E Hearthstone
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>>173537328
Its not the same guy every time you delusional cunt.
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>>173537314
It's literally impossible to lose to shadow with a well built elana and elana seraph deck. Stop bullying new players.
>>
>>173536570
>if you can't continuously recruit new players, the game is dead
Ever heard of a pyramid scheme?
>>
>>173536628
are you the sword I just beat with PTP shadow?

if so ez game ez life
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>>173537451
Whatever you say, stalker-san.
>>
>>173536628
>play in the most defensive manner possible as Sword
>against Shadow
>doing great

i chuckled
>>
>>173537141
They got much better ramp consistency, ward, and heal now though.
It's worlds apart from the ramp RNG meme it was in RoB

>>173537163
The meta's really ratcheted up though. If you can't meet the high power level bar you're fucked so rather than fun it's more of them liquefying their collection to join the cancer decks. TotG killed so many decks man.

>>173537192
Uh yeah... Sure... Definitely... Protip, if you drop the name and pass so you're anonymous on the, I dunno, anonymous imageboard then I can't tell it's you. You fucking twat.

>>173537328
Yes, clearly only one person in the entire general has a problem with it. You solved the greatest mystery of our time.
>>
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>>173536854
Thanks Vampy!
>>
I want a tourny of only blood decks
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>>173537628
>Yes, clearly only one person in the entire general has a problem with it. You solved the greatest mystery of our time.
It was no mystery though I admit my superior intellect and deductive reasoning lead me to the answer faster than most people would catch on.

Seriously though, you're a creep and should stop.
>>
>get banished
>get banished
>get themis'd
>ward spam
>tribunal
>themis
>tribunal and heal

>just kill the haven player before he drops aegis bro
>>
>>173534797
What do you do when Pepe rapes your dumb ass?
>>
>>173535615
>animated homecoming
>disappoint
Suck my dick dude
>>
>>173536570
http://steamspy.com/app/453480
Players in the last 2 weeks: 198,247 ± 13,036 (27.31%)
200k on steam isn't that bad. I dunno if you can find out the google play numbers for english phone users. Then you have their cornerstone in japan and their growing market in korea that's fighting it out as the rngstone alternative.

It's not great but they do tournaments in japan, I think they do in korea and they've formed a partnership to do tournaments in America
>>
Shadow removed from the game when?
>>
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Aina is number one!
>>
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This absolute madman was running wolf into anomaly
>>
>>173537309
You even forgot Magic Missiles and Angelic Snipes. Before the nerf they could easily win with just burn and Blade Mages, and they still can sometimes.
>>
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>>173537852
>He doesn't play Wolf/Bolt

Your own fault shadowbab.
>>
>>173537797
Sure, soon as you do :^)

>>173537975
Think she'll have potential as pressure and a finisher in a flute deck?
>>
>>173535332
it saw some play in otk roach back then as a removal

>>173535585
you are literally retarded or you are an utter shitter, the choice is yours

swords' analogues of fairy knight are blitz lancer and jeno, not fucking albert
>>
Is there a updated list of T2 cards with ToG?
>>
>>173535867
>>173535891
>>173538110

>/svg/ in charge of understanding sarcasm

New thread where?
>>
>>173537309
>>173536569
Daily reminder to never forget the burn-o-caust

>15 storm dmg from Zeus
>15 Storm dmg from gilgamesh
>12 dmg from Lucifer evo
>9 dmg from Levi Evo crimson sorcery
>9 dmg from disaster witch crimson sorcery
>9 dmg from halo golem
>9 dmg from demonic strike
>6 dmg from runes
>6 dmg from dance of death
>6 Storm dmg from commence experiment/conjure guardian/etc. cantrip fueled blade mages
>3-15 dmg from mutagenic bolts
>3 dmg from snipes
>3 dmg from magic missile
>3 dmg from angel of the word
>3 dmg from consistency lyrial evo
>3 dmg from barrages
>(123)114(102)(99)(93) burn depending on lyrial/levi/Luci evo. Obviously Olivia is very mean. with another 9ish avg each

Rune is able to kill 6 leaders before its conjuring force board and rune/DoD's bend you over with snowmen and golems.
Snowy Conjuring Guard Burn confirmed tier 0
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>>173535641
Why are you talking to yourself
>>
Fuck every single one of you who wouldn't help me complete my private game quest.

Rerolled into garbage
>>
>>173538317
>ever rerolling

just use what you get and go
you waste more time rerolling for days
>>
>>173538309
>meme otk combo
>control
>>
>>173500813
With enchanted blade, is gauntleted healer great again? I'm pretty sparse on rune cards so I can't run a list.

>>173538373
This. Especially when you get double the packs you just opened by the time you finish the starter shit
>>
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>>173538108
>Sure, soon as you do :^)
Can't we just make peace and become good friends?
>>
>>173538373
He meant rerolling a mission, dude.
>>
>>173538108
Maybe, I find she works best with hard to remove stuff like Trinity and Eyfa.
>>
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How is phoenix roost still broken? I need it to spice up my hydra memes.
>>
>>173538225

Is there a reason to?

I mean, I'd be on board with it if the general wasn't so shitty.
>>
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>>173538317
sorry anon i was baking a cake
>>
>>173538428
I want to rub my dick on her thighs.
>>
>>173538384
>control decks can't have wincons
I also run a Mary deck, your point?
>>
>>173538509
I want to bake a cake inside of Satania's womb if you catch my drift
>>
>>173538317

Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
>>
>>173538548
used goods
>>
>>173538481
Wait
Does Zell work with Hydra's ability to attack twice?
Thats a pretty spicy meme
>>
>>173538509

what kind of cakes do a guy bake?
>>
New thread

>>173538638
>>173538638
>>173538638
>>
>>173538591
>not using roost zell arriet skull dragon/hydra for OTK
>>
>>173538642
>guy
>>
>>173538554
Is this a new meme
>>
>>173538830
is just a guide to new anons m8
>>
>>173524249
Howl isn't that good in a midrange deck since you won't have the space to play it
>>
When swordcraft Invest everything into memefrog and get steamrolled into a corner cuz they dont know how to pepe, also doesnt help playing 2 Orthrus's on them sniping it after 2 turns
>>
Ah Dammit a competant Dshifter got me
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