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Old thread >>173474932
HIP HOP HORRAY
nice meta shadowbabs
>>173500894
Sad that it probably works better than actual Forestcraft now
Is this the chosen thread?
Eris is ____
>>173500973
Of course.
>>173501009
confess my love
I need more Rowen edits. Post 'em.
Oh shit guys
Just pulled some animated eggs
is the bowman kel deck worth crafting or should i just wait till i can craft aegis?
>>173500959
needs an edit with rowens in the background instead of eris
>>173501172
Rowen is serious now
>>173500791
>Ten minutes! For a whole ten minutes the hole in my soul was filled.
>>173501226
only as a huge meme
craft storm haven instead
>>173501293
what does it look like nowadays? just old storm with octopus thrown in?
Roland is fucking bad even in T2.
>>173501368
roland cucks forest and haven pretty hard
Post storm ramp dragon decks I can't find any that actually look good
>>173501340
the same thing but some builds add the banish draw guy
97456, need a win i can play it out if you want, if not just concede
>>173501368
roland is op as shit if they cant remove the amulet, hes a 2 for 1 easily and most of sword's followers has more than 5 hp wat r u smoking bruh
Who /ropeshadoweverymatch/ here
>>173501368
Roland is actually a nice 1-of in every non aggro dick. It's not a hueg impact lego like all others in sword, but it's like a safety belt: you probably don't need it, doesn't save you all the times but that ONE time you will be glad you had her.
>>173501451
thanks vania chan~
>>173501368
Roland is incredibly situational.
She wont see play other than a tech card against DShift/Forest/Aegis
I'm convinced Midrange Shadow is the best deck the game has ever seen. Nothing beats this shit.
>>173501717
no that award goes to pre nerf ptp forest
>>173501717
Reminder that Forest has been nerfed in every single expansion
>>173501538
My last sword run in T2 was 3-2, one loss was from getting fucked by Ouroboros then Blasted, the other was cucked by 2x Khawy and died by a thousand zombie cuts. She didn't actually help me win, and instead just prolonged my suffering.
>luna is finally tier 1
So who is yet to be tier 1? Hagcraft?
>>173501809
>>173501873
>B-BUT FOREST
Every time
>>173502058
Blood? Unga bats was T1 at the beginning of RoB I guess though.
>>173502058
Haven was T1 in DE though? I would say it's Blood who never truly took the spotlight.
>>173502058
I think Storm Haven was T1 during DE.
>>173502135
Aggro blood was t1
>>173502059
ptp forest at its peak literally had a 70% winrate, kill yourself treefucker
>>173501717
Currently playing this. I honestly don't feel like I need the burst from the Cerb-Howl combo. Thane and Princess feel really good to slap on the board and make it hard for your board to ever be really clear.
>>173502180
No it didn't you drongo. Post proof.
>>173502176
For 2 weeks, after that Blood fell to almost bottom of the barrel.
>>173502180
>ptp forest at its peak literally had a 70% winrate
Completely false and one of the most repeated lies in this general, it only had 70% winrate against certain matchups and had an overall winrate of slightly above 60% (not unlike midragne shadow now.) This was also during a time where a couple of classes were tier 4 unplayable garbage that existed only to inflate winrates.
>>173502269
No, it just became t2.
It wrecked rune which was 33% of ladder
>>173502202
I understand getting rid of phantom howl, but why Cerberus? Huge cost especially if you have a good board up.
>>173502202
Howl is very good to clear the opponent board when going second in mirror, it also fucks kys Blood very hard.
to all newplayers.
don't roll for blood this craft is bad
>>173502395
t. Newplayer
>>173502269
>T2
>bottom of the barrel
Are you trying to take Shadow's whinging crown?
>>173502353
>>173502437
Just go back and check some of the old Shadowlog data, anons.
>>173502395
aggro blood is still one of the best/cheapest decks for new players
>>173502368
That's the first iteration of the deck. I never had Cerbs in the 5-slot. I may experiment with it but I need to craft her. My mindset is that the deck is looking for board presence over burst and a 5-mana 3/3 doesn't really help with the former. I do want to try her though. Should I just play 2 or 3?
>>173502298
>Previous poster didn't specify if the 70% winrate was in general or against a certain matchup
>No it didn't have a 70% winrate! But it actually had a 70% winrate!!
Lmao the damage control of these fucking Fairybutts
>when your opponent misses lethal and you kill him the next turn
>play unranked to do dailies
>opponent plays skelly shadow
lmao you literally can't be this pathetic
>>173502058
Blood han't yet had a true t1 deck.
Even aggroblood during early RoB could be countered handily.
I underestimated this card
It is actually pretty powerful
>>173502583
Two could be acceptable. For midrange, Eachtar is probably the more valuable legendary anyway.
>>173502639
>opponent starts emoting after his turn
>topdeck lethal
OH SHIT ANON THIS IS COMING STRAIGHT FOR YOUR HOME, WHAT CARD DO YOU USE TO SAVE YOURSELF?
>>173502654
Yeah, he's really good for ensuring board control early or for getting that chip damage in if you're running burn.
>>173502783
Themis
>>173502180
Bullshit. Only 70% against suicide blood. Shadow has higher vs dshift now. Ptp forest was one of the decks with interesting mechanics and hard to pilot optimally. There was a saying among the nips that it isnt ptp unless it is piloted by high master.
>>173502590
Well I guess midrange shadow also has a 70% winrate then :^)
See ya on the day of the nerfs friend
>>173502783
Eachtar and kill them.
>>173502694
I'll try it. It's just that I've never slapped down Gob Princess and wished it was Cerb. Princess has really surprised me with how good she is. I initially thought it was just a T2 card.
>>173502783
If my house is getting fucked, mind as well fuck everything with it.
>>173502878
you are shit if you think cerb is bad or any card is better than it in shadow.
>>173502639
>when your opponent plays shadow for free wins in T2 and heaven rebukes him so hard he ragequits
>>173502783
Grimnir
>>173502928
>Haven sets up Aegis + ToS
>Thinks he's safe
>I drop Thane and suicide my board
>Thinks I'm a retard since that wasn't enough for lethal anyway
>tfw GRIIIIIIIIMNIR
Why does this happen.
>>173502924
But I don't think Cerb is bad, I've just had a lot of success without her and I haven't felt like I needed it. I'm not Masters so my opinion doesn't matter anyway, but people asked why no Cerb. The main reason is I only have 1.
>>173503124
ragequit
>>173501009
For impregnating.
>>173503124
Butthurt loser exits the game instead of just surrendering
>>173502639
>when your opponent has 10 health and they concede right before turn 9 because you have an evo
>>173502654
This comes from someone who doesn't play dirt rune, take it as you will.
I find that it's pretty annoying in the early game, as a 2 drop that can't be killed efficiently with low mana, especially when played with 2 earth rites as a backup (thing scrap iron and teaching of creation/red hot ritual). But the later the game goes, i think it works against the dirt player, because it consumes rites that would be better used for professor of taboos or calamitous course.
But I guess the more aggro oriented dirt decks don't run in those kind of problems?
New to the game, liking it, thinking of buying a few prebuilt decks to jumpstart my collection. I like blood, shadow, sword and dragon, which of these prebuilt decks are the most worth, considering the usefulness of the cards they contain?
Pic related are my legends
>>173503257
Of course
Control Dirt does not need early board when it can just run removal
Illusionist is stick 2 drop that keeps hitting face and does not go away
>>173503292
Forest>Shadow>Blood>everything else
shadow is one of the best crafts right now and you will use almost all legos and golds from the prebuild so go for it.
take a look at the aggro shadow and mid-range
>plays Otohime to Walfrid next turn
>opponent plays Phoenix Rider Aina
>I lose
HOLY SHIT WHO ACTUALLY PLAYS PHOENIX RIDER??
I kinda feel bad for forest. It feels like I'm just literally burning the fuckers especially when I use dragon.
>>173503358
A winner
you fucking loser bitch
>>173503358
it's a cute tech against shadow if they don't see it coming
>>173503292
shadow and dragon is ok cos of cerb and forte, forest is the most worth in terms number of useful cards but then u arent interested in it
>>173503353
>Recommend Forest for newbie when it's @ 6.5% play rate
No, just no.
>>173503459
He is talking about prebuild value. It's the only one where both the legendaries are meta.
>>173503379
is because dragon players have a pure heart with honor.
We are in the top now but at least our honor is intact.
How do you get Royal Banner? I've encountered 2 decks in my last 3 matches with it and it's not in the craftable list.
>>173503292
You have lots of good Sword legendaries but it's not doing too hot right now. On the other hand you no good Shadow legendaries but Shadow is the best class right now and fairly cheap to build if you just buy 3 prebuilts.
>Roland
>is clearly a girl
?
>>173503292
Forest prebuilt has the best value out of all but buy the shadow one if you can. It's tier 1 right now and almost all of the golds in it is usable, not to mention Cerberus.
>>173503358
>>173503406
>aww fuck que into some shadow dick
>fuck this shit lets waste an eyfa
>didn't managed to remove her since running out of removal and skellys can't suicide into her
>oh fuck now they fucking flooding the board
>come on dork
>draw Aina
>+6 to attack
Aina seems a nice tech if you're not going ramp route in this meta.
>>173503459
>Play rate equals quality of craft
?????
The one thing I like about Hearthstone is how every follower you play doesn't immediately get removed next turn.
>>173503530
Story mission.
>>173503530
is a basic card just level up famalam
>>173503358
>HOLY SHIT WHO ACTUALLY PLAYS PHOENIX RIDER??
Someone who is tired of shadow's shit
Will he ever be effective?
>>173503530
1st Sword story mission
>>173503358
The guy that beat you that's who.
>>173503647
Unless forest get their own zell or someone can give him ambush, he's removal bait at best.
>>173503647
When forest get zell/laura kinda of card.
>>173503647
No. Not even cygames gave it the benefit of the doubt.
>>173503647
If they ever give forest a card to give it ambush or storm. Probably not.
>>173503534
Sword is still good. All the meme builds with gaywain and frog have made it look bad
>>173503534
Guess I'll buy the blood, shadow and dragon prebuilts then. Thanks.
>>173503537
Could be worse.
>>173503583
I don't deny this but considering what he said:
> I like blood, shadow, sword and dragon
And forest is in the worst position right now so i won't recommend forest
>>173503647
Beta tester said "nope" so never?
Post godlike curves.
if every deck had perfect draws, which one would be the strongest?
>>173504004
>eggs
LOL
>>173504070
Already happens and shadow
>>173504004
>>173504070
Daria and Sword
>>173504070
aggro blood
>>173503647
That fucking feel when the cards with an eldritch vibe to them are all garbage.
Looking at you Eidolon.
>>173504070
Dragon
>>173504004
>>173504070
Daria turn 4 dream hand bullshit is unbeatable.
>>173504108
I wanna ramp into that
>>173504004
>>173504151
Salamander Breath :^)
>>173504151
What are the chances of a "perfect Daria" hand? The perfect shadow curve isn't very picky.
T1: Skull Beast/Goblin/Skeleton Fighter
T2: Literally any 2 drop with 2 attack
T3: Prince Catacomb
T4: Orthrus
>Someone actually used this card yesterday and evolved it
>the FUCKING CIGAR IS ACTUALLY IN THE ART
i always trough someone shopped that in...
>>173504289
You act like you can't view the card for yourself in the ingame album.
>>173504289
This is cygames not riot.
>>173504289
PAPA LOVES GOLD!!
>>173504289
Dumpster is a top tier meme.
>that feel when you lose to atomeme for the first time
i even managed to kill 2 but he summoned the third
if only i drew dod...
>>173503358
>he plays otohime when shes even worse than last expansion
go back to le ddit you fucking netdecking lowrank
>>173504271
>T1 Insight
>T2 2x Insight
>T3 Clarke
>T4 3x Ogler and Daria
Try to Salami Breath that :^)
>>173504274
Yeah that's why Aggro Shadow is so good, it has very good curve and is fairly consistent unlike Daria's brick galore.
tfw i evolved an egg and accidentally kill my roaches in unranked
95254 need a private match win i cando yourstoo
>play sneks in unranked
>win
>take it to ranked
>lose 10 games in a row
I just want to climb with sneks, come on.
>Make a fun abomination Tittywizard deck with Disaster witch, Witchcrafter, and a single Dshift
>Oddly feels like it wins a fair amount thanks to lods of over the top face damage from crimson sorceries and the occasional miracle Dshift asspull
I'm having fun.
>>173504573
Can't climb with no arms man.
>>173504573
>playing anything other than shadow or dragon in ranked
>doing my Haven dailies
>play Aegis deck
>against Haven mirror
>get to go 1st, think "nice, I get to drop my aegis first and win"
>he drops seraph t8
>uh
>I drop aegis t9
>he drops 3 countdowns t9 and wins
lmao
aegis is so fucking bad holy shit
why would I want to play this over seraph
what a waste of 7000 vials
>>173504643
j-just odin bro
>>173504274
you clearly didn't play shadow much
t4 it's reaper + something else
>>173504643
Yes i wish they didn't made fucking blast so i don't need to use this shit lego
>>173504436
Hehe-
midrange shadow with ultimate carrot still playable?
>>173504643
Aegis is fine, its just that Haven mirrors are the most brokeback things in the game and have been for a while. I wouldn't run Seraph personally as long as Dragon is top tier.
>>173504794
No, it's unplayable 0% winrate across 1000 sample games.Jesus Christ just try it out, man.
>>173504794
midrange shadow has so many options now it's not even funny. you can play almost anything and probably get a good winrate.
>>173504573
N.A artbook when?
>>173504794
Do you actually find yourself sometimes short of shadows or things to sacrifice?
>Yes
Run carrot
>No
Don't
>>173503501
Then why rate Blood third? The blood leggos are trash. Mary is useless in all but the most meme decks.
>>173504794
In the 3 slot, you have:
>War Cyclone
>Catacomb
>Bone Chimera
I don't really see why you'd need or even want Carrots
>tfw Urd and Thane shenanigans
Any decent control forest?
>>173504128
>eldritch vibe
wanna know how i know you've never read lovecraft?
>>173504974
Seems a bit slow for a shadow generator. Bone Chimera is 3 shadows for 3PP, but you have to spend a lot more PP to start generating shadows with Carrot.
>>173504751
well i also today won another one with a pure neutral deck, he even resurrected a doded atomy with ceridwen but still lost
i dunno why it feels that every atomeme always summons him an t4-5 and nearly always has ceridwen
that one who lost was forced to trade 2 atomy into 2 mastema, and another mastema died from some other follower and fucking dod didnt surface. i dunno how people can play without dod or a similar hard removal
>>173505072
Play wolfbolt
It's the only playable forest deck
I've been messing around with tempo forest and tarzan control. They don't really work.
Both of them get mega-cucked by Haven in particular.
>>173505051
>Teena
wtf
Also, what's your list? I hadn't really considered running Urd but seems like she could be neat.
>>173505189
*that one to whom i lost
>>173505190
any updated wolfbolt for the expansion then?
>>173505072
https://twitter.com/udo_shadowverse/status/848956327569248256
It's not really control when it is just roach with tarzan/aerin/elfqueen.
Looking for a concede, thank you. If you need a win, just stay and pass.
26462
>>173505313
how do you find all those twitter decks?
>>173504128
Poor Eidolon never gets a break.
>>173505291
This is what I play. Tweak it anyway you want.
I run an early engine for both my bugs and Tarzan is just an alternative win condition if bolt isn't going to play out.
Selwyn's Command is flexible for being early face damage or nice utility for late game.
>>173505360
Follow players on twitter.
>>173505345
Thank you Vampy. Even if I messed up my request, you were there for me and I'll never forget it.
Why cygames never did a funny expansion or event? something like tokusatsu or racing cards.
even godzzila theme
comrade eachtar in aggro Y/N?
>>173505212
He was playing some wacky Ledger deck, on turn 8 he played 2 Ledgers that pulled Khawys, that was pretty surprising to see.
>Also, what's your list?
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63FiQ.63FiQ.63FiQ.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.6Avi6.6Avi6.6Ay8M.6Ay8M.6Ay8M.6Ei7Q.6Ei7Q.6737K.6737K.675ZG.675ZG.675ZG.6AtGA.6AtGA.6Ejr6.6Ejr6.6Ejr6.61PnY.61PnY.61PnY.6Ejqy.6Ejqy.6Ejqy.63MII.63MII.63MII.63KbE.63KbE.63KbE.6EmHM.6EmHM.6EojS.6EojS.6EojS#
Something like this, I keep changing cards around so make changes as you see fit, I'd probably add in Soulsquashers if I were you. It's been working fairly well for me without them, though.
which rank is this guy? Why am I playing against high ranks? It's my first take two
>>173505564
Master.
>>173505564
Master rank, good luck.I'm sorry for your loss.
>>173505564
>first time
holy fuck
>>173505564
Highest rank in the game.
Because Take 2 is literally random and has no rankings.
>>173505564
He's Master ranked, has won over 200 T2 games and playing the best class. Just pray to god that he bricks or his connection dies on him.
>>173504004
>That powerplay starting on turn 1
Swordbab stands no chance
>realize I need the new 3x legs to play fun news decks
>drop 100 dollars to buy 5000 crystals
>spent 4000, only got 2 legs
FUCK ME IN THE ASS, FUCK THIS GAME
Beetle Bro is my friend
Forest needs more storm bugs
>>173505631
>>173505614
>>173505643
>>173505724
I won, but still. I want to play against newbies like me
>>173504070
Nut Daria is unstoppable.
Even ramped dragon can only SalaBreath and it'll only take out Daria herself
Alternatively aggro can end games on turn 4-5 which is usually sooner than Daria, but is easier to stop
>>173505795
i'm sorry anon.
why you don't used the daily pack deal?
>each of your T2 losses is due to le hidden frog of turn 3 autowin
this has to be the most retarded limited meta ever to exist
>>173504128
Blood has most of the eldritch looking cards and some of them are certainly viable.
>>173505853
Take 2 doesn't consider your rank.
>>173505564
d-dit he come at you?
also nightmare is the best emblem :3
>>173505087
Not him but yeah, I do?
>>173505853
I feel really bad when i get a newplayer even concede sometimes.
cygames need to do something about the rankings in t2
>>173505795
If you want the legos using real money you gotta have to pay much more.
Reminder to respect your opponent if he is playing shadow but has Mordecai as his leader instead of Luna.
It probably means he really enjoy the craft and isn't only a bandvagoner.
>shadowbbs cry about dragon day and night
>dragon still below 50% winrate
>midrange shadow above 60%
l a m o
Alright. Which of you just used Madame Lich in masters?
>>173505870
I would need 100 days to spend them all, and by that time the new exp is going to come out, and you can't really get to play new legs soon, so it doesn't really make sens.
I was originally only going to spend 3500 or something and save the rest for daily deals, but I only got 1 leg from first 30 packs so I said fuck it and used another 1000.
Really sad, but at least I got 2 Serpents which I need, so Im just playing Serpent Control while waiting for the daily deals to net me something more.
>>173505491
Some people have tried him to some success but I think he's sort of redundant because you usually win before that or he comes down with no board and can't finish the game that turn. Just give him a try a few games to see how it goes for you if you feel like it though.
>>173502202
I also feel pretty comfortable with dropping Howl in the deck, its often a dead card in a deck that can flood the board every turn. Ive never run into a situation where I felt like I needed Howl to close out a game.
I dont agree with dropping Cerb though, she doesnt suffer the same problems as Howl and free damage is always welcome if it doesnt come with clunkiness.
>>173506079
hope you have fun with sneks.
i'm trying to make a soul dealer deck work naw but my belphs don't come
>>173506018
What if the player is using Morde sleeves with Luna, because they like Luna better?
>>173505443
>Beetles
That's interesting, I've been trying to get a beetle aggro deck working, but it seems to run out of steam quickly since it's hard to support both beetle and roaches and it feels inconsistent at times.
>>173506108
not like aggro can't have some skeletons on t7
>dragon has 300 heals
>still can't deal with aggro decks
>>173505491
>>173506108
There's been a couple times where I've had 1-2 cards on board and the +2 was enough for lethal.
>>173505853
>it's a beginner gets a good first t2 run episode
I also somehow got a 5-0 on my first T2 even with a jankass Haven deck. But good job man, that must have been a pretty close game.
>>173505849
>forest needs more unga
How about no
>no howl midrange shadow
>no CERBERUS midrange shadow
We should make a new rule. C rank and below should never post their deck here.
>>173506330
Cerberus and howl are not that good anymore flooding board is better
>>173506330
No Howl midrange shadow is winning in tournaments though
>>173506121
Yea, I'm willing to concede that Cerb is good, I just don't have enough but I'll craft them soon. I would have just cut the Princess for her but I see you're running both. How's that been?
>>173506176
>goblins
Why not water fairies?
Add more fairies into your hand for combos.
>>173506018
Mordecai is a cuck and not my leader.
What the fuck
He buffed them this much on the very same turn he played them
>>173506291
>get shitty deck again
>battle against beginner
>lose
>battle against another beginner
>lose again
This is why I'm sitting on 10+ T2 tickets.
my first t2 was 5 losses with sword, since then i enter, get a random deck and immediately forfeit for a free pack. also close the tab when i see a streamer playing t2
that's a stupid boring mode
>>173506454
Looks like you got meme'd on.
>>173503653
>>173503625
>>173503602
Ah, thanks. I've neglected the story and just started doing ranked.
>>173506371
t. f-zero rank
>>173506167
>luna with no hairbuns
That's haram
>>173506392
Its felt great, I havent had a single issue with the deck.
Every match feels unfair to my opponent
>>173506037
as a shadow player, haven is the real cancer
>>173506371
Are you literally D3?
>>173506176
I run a smaller engine than you. My only fairy sources are 3x Sylvan, 3x Whisperer, and 3x Circle.
I don't focus on big roach plays really unless it's available to me. Roach usually pokes or takes out anything potentially threatening while my big beetles will evolve and go for face.
5 face damage with a pretty good amount of defence is tough to get rid of unless they use some hard removal.
>>173506454
he used 7 spells 3 of which were enchanted sword
>>173506018
Exactly why I'm running Mordy with Nutsquasher sleeves.
>>173506656
6 spells, you didn't include Blade Mage's base attack in your math.
>>173504573
>sneks
Your fault for playing a cuck deck. Grow some balls and play dealer.
Does anyone else feel like T2 has gone to complete shit now. Adding an extra slot for legos makes every game feel more like a roll of the dice.
What's the best way to spend rupees for a fairly new player? I've been playing t2 a lot, getting about 2 wins average but just using the tickets so far
>>173506803
>now
>>173506427
Water fairies die to skull beasts and such, goblins usually deter those trades. Though I could really use more fairies I suppose
>>173506618
Oh yeah, Beetle is essentially an Albert most of the time.
The issue is that you can afford to take it slower, I'm trying to build something that wins turn 6-7
I could try dropping EPM for more bounce I guess, will give it a shot.
>>173506803
It's fucking terrible. They should just cut the trash/autowins from the mode entirely. There's nothing fun about losing to oro when your corresponding choice was support cannon vs castle in the sky.
>>173506923
>2wins average
get a bit better senpai 3-2 is the minimum for profit
>ruppees
depends of what you want if you need standart packs go for t2 if not buy packs from the expansion that you want.
if you want to practice t2 feel free to ask for some private matches
>>173506956
It manages to be even worse than RoB where everyone had 3x Baha
>>173506454
just themis
Why is Magisa always so fat and disgusting holy shit
>>173506970
>skull beast/goblin kills water fairy
>get free fairy
>drop may next turn for free kill
GG shadow, should of unga'd
>>173506803
Yeah we have so many broken I win buttons like Ouroboros and Aegis now, and they get offered very often because they are the newest legos. However, you can circumvent that by trying to draft very aggressive curves, in my last T2 5-0 with Shadow none of the games even went past turn 10.
>>173506803
>>173506956
>>173507021
>>173506976
>wah wah sword is not autowin anymore wah wah
>>173505443
How do you even play this without running out of non-fairies cards?
>>173507076
>May hits the 2/2 instead of the 1/1
What now
>>173506436
Ok, pedo. Have fun.
I heard you can exchange the take two tickets for card pack tickets, is that true? also what are the best classes for take two?
>>173507051
Your mom is fat and disgusting
>>173507104
I actually never played sword in T2 because it was my worst performing class with an average of 1.6 wins.
I average 3.7 with the rest combined.
>>173506970
>I'm trying to build something that wins turn 6-7
You want Cynthia's in your deck then.
>>173507163
the rewards for t2 are 1 packs + gold(wins.X).
The best crafts are sword,dragon and SHADOW
>>173507104
>sword
>no mention of sword
>implying sword was autowin in t2
everyone laugh at the mongoloid
>>173507140
Gotta believe in May man
She's certainly one of forests strongest wincons.
I want to suckle on these tattas
>>173507202
I never have the board for her, mid shadow aims to clear your board. Blessed fairy does the same thing, and she can be bounced if need be
>>173506436
Mordecai is a cool dude.
>>173507152
Jokes on you, I love Nepnep too.Morde is still a cuck tho, literally
>>173506436
This. When he stops getting into my hand before turn 9 then he can get some respect.
>Hector into Hector three games in a row
Yeah fuck you too.
>>173507132
Early game is bugs, later I curve into different plays essentially.
Also bouncing fairies/generators helps a lot.
Nep or Israfiel for my emblem?
>>173507559
Nep, show your respect for the dead.
>>173505795
never forget that buying packs is gambling
t.guy who spent all his lunchmoney on ygo packs as a kid
>>173507559
smug nep
>>173507559
Isra but only if she looks like this.
>>173506176
Fuck tempo forest honestly only works vs retards and people who brick their entire hand
>>173507559
Bellringer Angel
>>173506330
>he doesn't understand why howl doesn't fit in midrange
t."i think a bunch of powerful cards make a meta deck and i throw 3x grimnir in literally every deck i have"
>>173507847
HH1488 rank?
>>173507958
BUT ITS A GOOD CARD DUDE
YOU MUST BE RETARDED FOR CUTTING IT
Humpty Dumpty emblem when?
What deck is /svg/ running this patch?
Storm haven is pretty much my only deck with a positive winrate
>>173507958
You're not supposed to throw in 3 grimnir in literally every deck you have?
>>173507918
I don't like the Ding Dong emblem too much
>>173508059
Can you post your Storm Haven list?
I used to main Haven in RoB but Seraph is unplayable now with Dragon everywhere and Aegis is absolute brick central.
>>173507958
>He thinks howl can only be used offensively
Howl fucking wins mirrors
>>173508173
>he thinks howl can be used with a full board
Howl fucking loses you the game
>>173508059
Saha Ramp, mid-range sword and forest
>>173508162
Just netdeck a normal Storm Haven deck, then replace a few cards with Grimnir and Valhallan general
>Go back to Hearthstone to see the new expansion after two months of not playing
>Have fun a bit maybe I'll keep playing
>Wait no
>I keep losing to randomly generated cards from outside their deck this isn't fun at all
>I played around them using all their copies of a card and then they just used an extra one
>I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this it's not fair it's not fair I hate this it's not fair
>Go back to SV
>Play against a Haven and a Dragon
>Win even though I started first and I didn't even use both my evos and the Dragon was on their fourth after Olivia
I'm glad Forestcraft exists. It's what I always wanted Rogue to be, not this stupid "bounce three times and make every follower a 5/5" abomination that's happening in the game right now. Good game. Good class. Good design coherency. Good good good.
>>173507958
>he doesn't play grimnir in any deck that isn't dshift
C3? I bet you think Grimnir is bad in aggro deck too.
>tfw you missed all the good card backs and emblems
>>173508059
Honestly Aggro Blood is the only deck I can consistently beat all crafts with.
Mostly just because the game can end by turn 6.
No one ever suspects midnight vampire
>>173507559
Israfil
>>173503124
I do this against fags that taunt me using a t1 deck
>>173508253
>Win even though I started first
You actually want to go first now.
>>173508253
I started to play forest this is expansion.
i'm not really good but if i do the right plays in all turns is possible to win agaisnt dragon and shadow at the same time.
ROACH RULE
>>173508173
yeah good luck getting past my wall of zombie wards
its a pity you don't have any shadows to be able to make your own
>>173507663
or as the only way to catch up in collection
thats sad
>>173508234
If you have a board you're winning
>>173508437
Usually when I have to use howl defensively is to clean up their board after a catacomb turn 3
By the time we get to turn 6/7 I have enough for DB
>>173508360
With Dragon it doesn't matter because they race you on PP anyway, Sybil makes their ramp absurdly reliable for minimum loss.
>>173508302
u jelly?
>>173508567
>ding dong
>snowman
>Urd
Yes
>>173508059
>Draw quickblader turn 2
TOO SLOW
>>173508302
this months baphomet one is p. nice
>>173505795
>>173507663
>>173508451
You get tons of vials and can craft whatever you want anyway
>rest are 2x Serpent, 3x Revelation, 1x Tempress
Control Blood bros how do we make this list better and more consistent
>make dragonbabs concede twice in a row due to perfect skelecurve
JUST SALAMANDER IT BRO
>>173508550
If I wanted a card to use defensively I would be running Foul Tempest instead of Howl.
I also find that the deck already has enough comeback mechanics through things like Soulsquasher, Orthrus, and Necroassassin.
>>173508675
change to another class
>>173508302
I started doing ranked for the first time when they introduced the emblems
before that was only unranked and arena
>>173508663
I got 10k vials from that, so roughly 3x legs. I was originally going for wallet dragon but I am still missing 7x legs
>>173508059
i already was an aggro shadow player, so yeah.
>>173508173
i play both, and i dont need howl to win mirrors as midrange. howl can set you back and brick in midrange.
howl is good as a finisher, if it can't be used as that, say because midrange is not aggro enough, then it'll just eat up your shadows to trade, which is not very desirable.
also you need an empty board to use it as burst, but here as well, you don't want to have an empty board as midrange, ever.
>>173508263
>he thinks his glorified temple defender will help him in aggro
t.playing not to lose
>Followers summoned by Saha cannot attack the enemy leader
There I fixed Saha
>>173501368
I just threw a Roland into one of my sword decks and ran against D-Shift. Dropped three flame destroyers on the D-Shift turn and couldn't scrape lethal with an evolved Blade Mage. It's taking up a slot where a third Tsubaki would go.
>>173508059
Meme shit mostly, Midrange Shadow sometimes if I feel like trying out new ideas/techs.
>>173508675
Something that a learn about blood is not how good he is.
is the fun.
if you are having fun the deck is nice.
>>173508675
you don't
sneks are bad and stop asking /svg/ because they tricked you into playing it in the first place
What if First Curse, Second Curse, and Final Curse could target the enemy leader?
>>173508872
Or just make Zell affect dragon followers only
>Mission: Win 4 as Forestcraft
>Only facing Ungasword in Unranked for 5 games now
Please let me end this
>>173508675
Cut the Bloody Mary's for sure. I'd say cut the Matriachs as well, but they're probably good against Shadow. I haven't tried though.
Cut Vanias as well. Run 3 hungering hordes and drains. Get at least 2 Belphegors.
I'd say those are the main things.
>>173509000
What if you just suck my dick right now?
When all hope is lost, he shall appear to save the day
>>173508937
I got them from packs so I don't care I need to cut them, I actually opened 3 yesterday.
Control Blood typically eats aggro and some midrange, so my only problem is control matchup. Serpent is the pressure CB misses in this match up for a long time. Also If I can god draw blood moon, Righteous Evil, Baphomet and then Serpent, its auto win against any one besides heaven
>>173509000
What if you could banish leaders?
Shadowlog stats for the second week of ToG are out.
>>173509142
if is big enough
>>173509146
kys shadownigger
>>173509226
>Elf genocide
This is not ok.
I just tried dragon and holy shit this is fucking nuts
>ramp
>ramp
>heal
>heal
>heal
>be a retard and miss lethal by 1
>opponent still has no way to respond and concedes
It was just BM :^)
>>173509226
>Witch 7.8%
How the mighty have fallen
Where do followers go when they get banished?
>>173509226
FUCK RUNE YEAH THE MEST META EVER
>>173509226
>Forest is played more while still having a decent win percentage
>mfw Rune
WOW
>>173509226
Prepare for another week of people whining about Aegis despite Haven being shit and another week of people asking why Blood is bad despite being the number 3 craft.
>>173509226
>Going first is now advantageous
>>173509226
Huh, I thought Forest would have a better winrate from looking at syadoreco.
>>173509226
>61%
Shadowbabs will defend this
>>173509226
>Rune down the shitter
I fucking love every single bit of this expansion. Fuck Rune and anyone who's ever played it.
What meme
>>173509420
it's within a reasonable degree of deviation, a margin of 2-3% isn't much
>>173509226
>Aegis ees OP guise
9pp do nothing
>>173509368
I still find it significantly more frustrating to lose against Haven than Shadow.
Aegis+ToS feels like garbage to lose to because of the lack of potential interaction on your side.
>Seraph vs Big Boy Wallet Dragon
>play my Seraph turn 8
>Odins it
>then we stall each other for like 12 turns both being unable to do anything but react to enemy plays, I bait two Lightning Blasts by flooding board with 3 followers
>turn 20, have a Seraph in hand but also a Bahamut, he only has a Saha on the board
>I know he must have at least one more Odin left
>decide to drop Bahamut instead of Seraph
>he instantly Odins my Bahamut
>drop Seraph next turn
>he has no banish left and concedes
These really long games are actually sort of fun, just the two of you sitting at each others throat waiting for the other one to fuck up for 15-20 minutes
>>173509485
this.
feelings > balance
>started playing yesterday
>completely new, first card game in my life
>took entire day to make a semi-viable deck
>second match i get picrelated
Is this normal? Playing as sword-something
>>173509368
Blood winrate is saved by the meme dealer unga. Blood being the patrician craft, doesn't attract unga players very much.
That's why you get people complaining here, because they're control players.
>>173509465
Aegis destroys dragon. It's the real chemo
>>173509226
Congrats Luna-chan on being tier 1!
What a wonderful and diverse meta guys. We're just so lucky to be able to experience this.
>>173509226
>Runecraft
Tuck me in, let me die
Thanks for the two useless legendaries kikegames
>>173509226
>61% going first
>>173509245
I'll just come back as a skeleton
>>173509226
>>173509570
They need to nerf Grimnir. All the cancer decks are running him right now.
>>173509570
>plays shadow
literally neck yourself you subhuman shitter
>j-just wait for the meta to s-settle g-guys, s-soon shadow will be in the s-shitter!
>/svg/ celebrating that a class has been unreasonably been tossed out the window, alienating players
I've been playing rune since steam release but if they're going to treat the entire class like shit just because of Daria, then Cygames have just lost my support
Laugh all you retards want for now, but its bound to happen to your class as well
Fuck this blatantly imbalanced game, I'm out
>>173509485
Oh yeah, because there's so much interaction from your side possible when the enemy Necromancer has 5 followers all with Last Words: Summon 1 Skeleton
Kill them? You die
Leave them? You die
>>173509368
blood's terrible winrates are saved by blood aggro, everything else sucks
need a concede
37276
>>173509226
>Three favorite crafts at the top
>Most despised one in the gutters
Fuck yeah. Everything will be reversed next expansion, but I'll enjoy it while I can
>>173509449
Hippoeggs
>>173509226
Blood is actually third. Very nice.
>>173509485
>Aegis+ToS feels like garbage to lose to because of the lack of potential interaction on your side.
Woah so decks that you don't build around to counter (because they are shit) feel like they have less counterplay than the strong decks you are actively trying to counter
Woah...
>>173509689
fuck rune players
>>173509570
Yeah, Cygames finally turned the game good.
>>173509534
That's what happen when your opponent ragequit.
>>173509226
>61%
Which neutral will they nerf this time?
>>173509449
>dragon eggs are memes
>>173509689
Daria and Dshift are both infuriating to play against.
>>173505443
autoloses to shadow. Dont even bother.
>>173509384
Going first has literally always been advantageous for aggro decks.
Same goes for mirror match-ups like Seraph, Aegis, Neph, etc.
The decks that prefer going 2nd are the ones who don't rely as heavily on the early game to win.
Dragon being the oddity here because the sooner they hit 2/3/5pp the sooner they can start ramping. Evolve points don't matter as much for them.
>>173505795
i spent like 400 bucks already
have 80% of all legs/golds in the game
probably going to buy 5k crystals tomorrow again, because i don't want to wait to get all legs from this expansion
>>173509704
thanks
>>173509449
Disco dude and JO crystal are good in T2.
>>173509584
Reminder that cygames blatantly admitted that they were 100% aware that ginger was completely useless and decided to release her anyway (same for anomaly)
Reminder to report and ignore Shadowcraft players.
>>173509689
I think rune is ok (Dshift needs to be roped though) and I don't like the current meta. Shadow has an insane winrate (60% going first when the meta already settled, this is not acceptable). Dragon is a problem too, however we can just nerf grimnir and Zell and call it a day. I don't know how to nerf anything to kill Shadow and that is a fucking big problem. That class is just too fucking versatile.
>>173509794
I understand that. I mean is this normal? Ragequitters?
>>173509226
WHO IS LAUGHING NOW?
>>173509226
Luna likes going fast!
>>173509689
You won't be missed, stupid Runekek.
>>173509861
>Disco dude
>good in T2.
Why do people keep saying this? Everytime I draw him in T2 I already have too little cards on hand or only cards I really don't want to lose. He's shit.
You can only reply to this post if you played Shadow back in DE.
Bandwagoners fuck off.
>asscunt spends 5 years deciding if he should attack face with his three 2/2s when my board is empty due to not drawing anything below 5PP
nice game shadowbabs
>>173509752
This mostly stems from Havens ridiculous ability to stall out a game. Its also significantly easier to fish for ToS then it is to fish for amulet removal.
You could have a sub 10% winrate and I would still hate the deck more than Shadow/Dragon because Havens design is inherently unfun to play again.
>>173509689
>I'm out
WITH A BANG AND A BOOM
>>173509978
All shadowplayers need to be necked, bandwagoners or not.
>>173510019
Were you playing blood at least?
>>173509978
HAIL SHADOW
FEELS GOOD TO BE ABLE TO BULLY HAGFAGS NOW
Need a concede at 96469
>>173509939
>Meta basically inverts
I'm a little scared what the next expansion will do
>>173509978
Fine, have a free (You) because you're a cool Shadowpatrician.
>>173509978
i don't care about class and this shit
>played dragon and shadow at vanilla
>ptp and mid-range in DE
>Daria nad Roach at RoB
>and now shadow
this is me fuck you
>>173509978
Luna is of the purest craft
>>173509978
I don't play Shadow.
I've never played Shadow!
THE FOREST IS ANGRY
LIFE LASTS BUT AN INSTANT
>>173510020
Yes man, getting hit for 13 face damage from hand when dragon reaches 9pp or dying turn 7 to a board of skellingtons you cannot possibly remove without mass banish is a lot more interactive. Truly.
Reminder to star all ToG Shadow cards.
I don't like this
I've been a shadow player sicne forever
I got used to be the underdog and I always had good games
Now I can't even enjoy the game anymore because I know I'm supposed to be part of the cancer as much as rune used to be
And I can't play anything else either because I dusted all my other crafts to get all the strongest shadow cards throughout every expansionPls nerf shadow already
>>173509689
This, rune is my most favorite craft by far (i have played all over 100 games besides sword) and to see them literally toss them in the dumpster while blood, dragon, and shadow get ridiculous fucking tools is fucking insulting. I'm jumping ship with you bro let the pedos enjoy their meta. At least dragon players are bros who deserve to be good.
Fucking hell all these cancers that are in the ladder. Cygames is shit for not giving forest anything for 2 consecutive expansions.
I want forest to get something more broken than what Dragon, Shadows and Haven got, combined. I want forest to become the most cancerous shit ever to get revenge from the current cancers.
>>173509539
Meme Dealer is a legit deck that requires balls to play. Pussies play Blood Moon and get rekt for playing a 3pp do nothing instead of going into real vengence.
>>173509703
Butthurt snek. More like kys is brought down by idiots who bought into the 3pp do nothing, 5pp do nothing, 6pp do nothing combo.
>>173510220
Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and stop playing hipster classes for the sake of it
>>173509226
>That rune win rate
Weird. I'm still having a lot of fun with Dirtrune and its working decently well. People still use Daria as well and its not bad.
>>173509689
>Dirt gets teeth
>Shift gets buffed
>Ginger shift is legit and has crazy potential moving forward
>Conjuring as a focus kind of got shafted since tutor and draw isn't as important for it due to daria but still
>Daria gets an amulet to bypass board clear weakness and its need to dump its hand on top of enchanted blade increasing its reach and chip
Even if it doesn't shine as well in future expansions, it'll inevitably get swung back just like dragon and shadow were
>>173510092
Thanks vampy
>>173509978
I tried Shadow out a bit in DE but only started maining the class in RoB. Does the count?
>>173510220
same here the dragon jokes were funny and now i can stomp everything with bahas and ligh blasts.
pls nerf zell
Do you believe that there is an active Elf Genocide going on right now?
>>173510197
Because it is, I still feel like I have outs when I hit that point with Dragon and Shadow.
If I dont have Haven to sub 5 health by T8 I might as well concede on the spot.
>>173510131
Who was life lasts but an instant?
>>173510220
Do gimmick shadow builds then
>>173509978
I replied and I still play aggro shadow.
Now what?
>>173510232
>while blood, dragon, and shadow get ridiculous fucking tool
I'm sorry anon blood still shit and our best lego is soul dealer now
>>173510220
Atomeme if for you
SHADOWFAGS REJOICE FOR TONIGHT WE DRINK DEEPLY FROM THE TEARS OF OUR ENEMIES
A DAY MAY COME WHEN CYGAMES NERFS US TO THE GROUND
BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY
ON THIS DAY WE SHOW THE WORLD WHY THE GAME IS CALLED SHADOWVERSE
>>173510334
But I like the whole undead / skeletons theme
This is why I picked the class in the first place
>>173510351
>dirt gets teeth
dirt is fucking garbage burn dirt doesnt exist and traditional dirt autoloses to dragon
>shift gets buffed
Yeah dude all the high rolling dragon and shadow on the ladder is a huge buff to d shift right?
>ginger shift is legit
...
>conjuring as a focus
what the fuck are you talking about
>daria gets an amulet to bypass board clear weakness
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DUDE? CAN YOU PLEASE FUCKING KILL YOURSELF YOU FAGGOT NIGGER RUNE LOSES TO EVERY SINGLE DECK ON THE LADDER RIGHT NOW.
>>173509978
What if I only started playing in RoB but my first craft was Shadow?
Am I not allowed to play Shadow then?
>>173510421
No, its still one of the best crafts and the new support isn't bad.
>>173510204
>72%
>>173510453
>Who was life lasts but an instant?
Princess Elf Mage. It's weird that she gets such a badass line with solid delivery but I'm cool with it. Especially since all my other favorite lady badasses got nerfed (RIP Dark General's voice).
>If I dont have Haven to sub 5 health by T8 I might as well concede on the spot
someone post that webm where shadow deals 18 damage to Eris in 1 turn after she drops aegis, so this faggot >>173510431 would shut up
kill rune players
I literally can't win against aggro shadow. Fucking pedofags I hope you all get cancer
>>173510431
>Because it is, I still feel like I have outs when I hit that point with Dragon and Shadow.
Because you build around them since they are the strongest, most popular decks around.
>If I dont have Haven to sub 5 health by T8 I might as well concede on the spot.
Because you don't pack reliable amulet removal because you subconsciously understand that Aegis is shit and don't need to do that even if you stubbornly refuse to admit it.
>>173510463
blood has the 3rd highest winrate you inbred nigger trash
>>173510547
Then be glad that your class got some strong cards, it's all gonna change in 3 months anyway
>>173510421
Of course not! Don't be stupid, goy- I mean, guy.
>>173510421
Long may it reign
>>173510421
Good, knife ears ruin everything.
>>173510604
It's 73% if you round it correctly.
>>173510463
Let me guess, you crafted sneks?
>>173510493
>Shadow players whine when they had decent winrate with nep last expansion
>They whined again before the expansion and ridiculed their own legendary
>They whined more even though their aggro deck are doing insanely good during the first few days of expansion
>They whined even more to have more good cards when last week's stats showed that they already have 63% winrate
Even Daria or Unga Sword was not this annoying and they will get my pity. Nobody will like you even after your are nerfed into the ground because of how annoying you were.
Daria at her best was more fair than Shadow.
>>173510663
Maybe if amulet removal options outside of Rune wernt complete shit I wouldnt have such an issue.
But honestly im not even arguing about Aegis anymore, I think Haven is such a piece of shit craft that it shouldnt even exist. Its entire gameplan is to prevent your opponent from having fun ever.
Nerf haven is not fair shadow being like this
>>173509978
>being an autistic faggot who "mains" a craft
Fuck you, I need to climb out of this AA shithole so I can finally do my dailies in ranked and earn my score rewards in peace.
What's better? Aggro or Mid Shadow?
Can the one retard that keeps shilling the meme dealer blood deck as some sort of """thinking mans deck""" please never post again.
Thanks.
>>173510746
Oy vey but muh 7pp design space, cygames is giving us too many cards to play on turn 7. And such small skeletons!
>>173510907
nep
>>173510909
How many vials did you waste on snakes?
>get 6 ranked win daily
>time to rev up that midrange shadow
>win all 6
This is okay.
Didn't get anything good from daily gold and pack though.
>>173510818
>Oy vey remember the six million banishes!
You will get no sympathy from all other classes once you faced your downfall.
>>173510909
>im too retarded to play soul dealer deck
Ok anon.
>>173510907
Mid is better overall but Aggro is cheaper and faster to ladder with.
>>173510113
indeed she is
>>173510989
>>173510983
>phoneposting
>>173510746
>and ridiculed their own legendary
the only lego that got ridiculed was minthe and rightfully so
she's useless
>>173511110
May you guys never get anything good from any future expansion because of this. No good bronzes, no good silvers, no good golds and no good legendaries. Only shitty ones awaiting you.
>>173511110
>short memory
No, people said Eachtar was mediocre.
>>173509685
It's alright, the winrate will go down after the nerfs :^)
>>173510553
Go home bandwagoner if you can't bear the chill
>>173509689
more like it happened already and now it's your turn
>babbies think they will nerf cards instead of just letting the next xpac fix things
>>173511310
>shadowniggers think they will not get nerfed into tier 6000
66805
Concede please.
>>173511310
Grimnir needs a nerf. Zell is ok. Shadow needs to be banished.
Why do yall have to have so much anger and animosity towards whatever is popular
Can't you just have fun
>>173511215
You sound like a fucking baby.
>>173511231
Most people were content that Eachtar would be strong enough to create his own deck but remained skeptical of how it would actually perform.
>>173511369
Can you concede back?
>>173511310
Roach and rune wasn't even close to as bas as things are right now
>>173511310
>been here for less than two months
>>173511393
>You sound like a fucking baby.
Projecting much? I thought that is what the shadow players sound like for the entire of the revealing season.
>>173511402
>this is the worst expan ever! Nevermid we say it every single time as well
Help me make a decision friends
Assuming i have everything else to play their respective decks, should i craft 2x aegis or ancient elf?
>>173511369
Thank you birdman.
>>173511386
Shitters are unable to have fun.
>>173511386
It's okay when you have the cards you could have taken to deal with it
It's bad when basically you're hard countered
It's not okay when it's solitaire
>>173511467
It's almost like that's how the word worst works when each expansion breaks it further.
>>173511471
Soccer mom. She's used in all their decks.
>>173511310
Cursed soldier
Harvest Festival
Homecoming
Piercing Rune
Goblin Mage
(You)
>>173511471
AE
you get to use AE in every single forest deck. Can't say the same about aegis
Luna watch out! There is a big guy coming for you!
>>173511504
Thanks for the trade concede
>>173511471
delete your account
>>173511471
Ancient elf. Elves are cute!
>>173511530
What was the cursed soldier nerf?
>>173511402
Roach is the only thing tolerable because you actually need to combo to make it work. Unga sword is a problem but you see it from miles away that the topdeck at 9PP when they have no cards left is always an Albert so it is kinda ok too. Daria Rune is ok too because sometimes they bricked. Dshift however needs to be roped no matter how bad their win rate is. Dragon is ok too since if they brick, they brick horribly.
>>173511215
zero arguments, as expected
>>173511231
eachtar was a tossup, some people thought he was good and some thought he was mediocre (mainly because it was pretty hard to keep a board)
the latter kind wasn't looking at the broader picture as we can see now
>>173511650
Beta
Why are cyniggers forcing blood into a brainless aggro role? It removes everything that's fun about the class like having to manage your defense in long control matches.
>>173511650
Used to cost 5pp
>>173511703
>mainly because it was pretty hard to keep a board
yeah, when eachtar can just clear the board on his own w/o evo. Great point there retarded past anons
>>173511723
Not really. They gave blood a lot of control tools like blood moon, mask of black death and more. Just wait for more support next expansion. Now we will just have to bare through the reign of red terror.
>>173511723
You're not forced to do anything, build and play a deck you want to play with and enjoy yourself. Cygames isn't coming down at your place and pull a gun on you if you don't play aggro.
>>173511716
Beta had some ridiculous shit. Merlin used to spellboost twice when she attacks, not once.
>>173511723
suicide blood is not brainless aggro.
HMMMMMMMMM
>>173511703
What do you expect when you yourself didn't present any argument? You just need to fuck right off from the radar just like those Daria players during RoB.
So Communism DOES work
>>173510421
Forest WRs are fine, people are just bored to tears of playing the exact same deck for another 3 months.
>>173511883
>Merlin used to spellboost twice when she attacks, not once.
>>173511883
She still spellboosts my dick
>>173511824
>You're not forced to do anything, build and play a deck you want to play with and enjoy yourself
Yea because losing is so much fun
Guys I think the game wants me to play blood because I keep getting blood leggos
I have 2 sneks should I dust them to buy belph instead?
>>173511996
>I want to win
>but I want to do it the least effective way possible
That's on you, then. This is how cardgames work.
Have you bullied a shadowbab today, /svg/?
>>173512057
>>/gbfg/
>>173511975
>Winrate less than 50% (barely touch 50% according to another survey)
>Fine
>Second least play rate
>Fine
>No more tier 0 deck
>Fine
>On the brink of losing their only tier 1 deck
>Fine
>>173512057
>dust sneks to buy belph
You want belphs anyway, but you should keep the sneks unless you want to play braindead ungabunga
Think I can get at least 4 wins?
>>173511916
left give you more tempo, ez choice
>>173511723
Cblood would have been fine this expansion, but cygames decided to delete all other control decks except Aegis by overbuffing Dragon.
>>173511583
How big was the biggest big guy you've ever made?
>tfw shadow is better than you in every way
>>173512101
Dorafs in your Shadowverse soon
>>173512096
I have!
Played against a mid necro that used desert rider and tyrant combo as forest.
I had to go through 3 death's breath, 2 zombie party, 2 Eachtor, 2 fucking tyrants and an enhanced grimnir. Finally won with top deck jungle albert.
>>173511723
You have midrange and control options
>>173512201
Do we have to endure this for another 3 months?
This fucker was literally balanced in the first iteration. And then you retards whined and complained so loud Cygames decided to overbuff it to fuck with you. Talking about karma.
>>173511975
Forest is just broken. You usually can't afford to use fairies to combo into many things other than roach because you run out of steam really fast, but they can't introduce new good fairy generators/hand refills without making roach absurd. They also tried to introduce new shitty control cards but forest is a combo class at heart and wolfbolt is probably the closest it's going to get to control.
I don't think they know what to do with it.
>>173511231
Maybe that was before Prince of permanent board presence was revealed.
>>173512201
>>173512326
Now you know how everyone else felt in Standard and DE. Suck it up, hardship builds character.
So I just drafted my first Take Two deck.
How did I do, lads? Tried getting more 4 and 6 drops, but 4s barely ever showed up and 6s were always put up against far better stuff.
>>173512201
>give skeleton of workable cforest deck
>can't give Forest good board clear or new legend finisher because it would just be used in roach/wolfbolt
They need to rotate Roach out already; so they can stop tiptoeing around Forest card design because they're terrified of making it god tier again.
>>173512357
Ouroboros is absolutely fine you retard.
Dragon's busted because of Sibyl and Zell, not Ouroboros.
>>173511809
the general consensus was that he was a finisher, e.g if you death's breath last turn and then play him that's 12 damage.
of course the argument that keeping a board was hard kinda went down the drain once shadow started using catacomb.
>>173511934
since you're too retarded let me spell it out for you: you made a claim that shadowfags "ridiculed their own legendary", I made a point that minthe was the only one to receive ridicule (as evidenced by the fact that the poor girl was compared to neutral do nothing cards). and then you sperged out at me for no reason whatsoever.
I suggest you take a break from the internet because you're getting obviously obsessed and angry for a while now
Should I craft my second Bahamut or my first Ouroboros first for Lamp Dragon?
>>173512158
just stall until you get aegis bro
>>173512326
I wish cygames use gbf lilly
>>173512357
He should be 6pp.
>>173512489
first ouro
>>173512414
sword have the best quality cards as normal.
just curve well and get you 5-0
>>173511723
>long control matches
>as blood
wtf are you talking about? vengeance is oft called the worse class mechanic. in a control mirror, you normally lose because the other control deck has wincons that doesn't care about how low your health is (seraph, satans, roach, d-shift). there's no managing your health. it's your aggro opponent hoping you don't have revelation/drain to beat you.
Concede for me please.
94484
>>173512456
Thx for telling us you don't play control decks. Most of the time when you stabilized the board with taunts he can just ouro your face twice and heal himself to prevent you set up for lethal anywas.
>>173512170
He was...pretty big. Probably the biggest guy I ever saw.
Like, imagine a big guy, alright? This guy was even bigger.
>>173512357
Ouro is fine. It's the 20 board clears with consistent ramp and healing that broke it. Zell and Grimnir are busted and need to be nerfed as well.
>>173512357
You mean the mistake that PCGamer left out the LW from its unevolved text? It wasn't really a buff in the first place.
help I'm being memed
>>173512240
How were you able to beat 3 death's breath and 2 Eachtor as forest?
>>173512456
What of zell gave rush instead? I feel like that would be perfectly balanced
>>173512360
The only things to fix forest are:
>Cheap ways to reduce PP cost of cards in hand
>More cheap bounce effect
>Ways to virtually increase combo count (e.g. an amulet that makes a card you played count as 2 for combo purpose)
>Cheap ways to banish amulet
All of the above must be true to make forest viable again. Optionals are:
>Card draws
>New combo cards that scales
>A follower that can give your other follower storm and the ability to ignore wards (notZell)
>>173512326
I main shadow but I have haven and forest decks for ranked and to be honest, I'm having more fun with forest now than I ever had in the previous expansions
>>173512695
just themis bro
>>173506803
You're fucking crazy, dude. The late game swing cards we have now are far less flexible and far more predictable than those in the previous format, and the vast majority of ludicrous turn 4/5 swing plays that lead into them are also gone. It's the most balanced take two has ever been.
>>173512772
if you do this shit forestniggers will just abvuse roach.
>>173512634
Thank for the help Bloodbro.
>>173512646
Still better than having your board lightning blasted
>>173512240
How the fuck did you survive 2(TWO) Tyrants?
>10 2-drops in my deck
>mull for them every match
>draw 0 (zero) 2-drops 3 games in a row
>>173503727
It would be funny seeing Master of Canopies or elder treant finally being viable and the craft would be a lot more fun since you dont have to search for roaches all the time
>>173512860
so you can just set up the board again next turn? Lighting blast is a win more card not setup lethal card or swinging card you retard.
I need a win and a full game please
47733
thanks in advanced
>>173504643
I actually still run seraph haven for my dailies
It's just really bad because of the dragon menance but really good against everything else
Which is why I dont use it for ranked
>>173512402
>Implying forest was ever this cancerous
You don't just slap followers on curve and roach is weak so you usually only use it as a finisher. Also once they lost their board against you they usually have very few ways to come back.
Forest during its strongest periods is not comparable to how cancerous Dragons, Shadows and Havens are right now.
>>173512695
Cybele aggro is legit decent. It just depends too heavily on draw RNG to get a Wind God/Cythnia in time to actually finish before Dragon shit on your face.
>>173512886
>Always end up with a skeletal reminder man in starting hand in every game today
RNG is weird sometimes.
I captured a ton of my animated cards from Tempest of the Gods.
However, I see in order to submit them to the spreadsheet I've got to put each one in individually. Fuck that. It took enough time capturing, cutting, and converting the webms.
Here you go. Shove it in the paste bin if you want.
gfycat(.com)
/@thedylvg/albums/animated_tempest_of_the_gods
>forte BMing when he got to 10PP on turn 6
Eh, nice draw rng. No need to gloat over it.
>try to snipe shadow deck with haven aegis
>get the mirror match against some retard playing fucking seraph
>>173512772
You have to delete Roach before they can fix Forest, otherwise that all just gets used in Roach OTK and we go back to early RoB.
>>173512772
>every forest player crying about roach being the only way coul win
>let's just buff forest in a way that only benefits roach and breaks it even harder
Don't ever post again you fucking mongoloid.
Budget shadowcraft at B0.
Prince of catacomb and orthrus are carrying really hard. I also need more phantom howls.
Need advice on mulligan, not sure how hard I should mull for a 1 drop, usually I keep a 2-3 curve going first, going 2nd, I mull anything above 3 to look for a 1 drop (the 1 mana card draw doesnt count as a 1 drop).
>>173512695
Hey I got memed by that deck not too long ago.
>>173512459
You forgot to take into account that I already mentioned eachtar and you are arguing that with me right now so that is not "not an argument" shit. Also the "no no this card is totally shit" when we discussed about every new shadow cards right before the expansion is very disingenuous. Cut that shit out next expansions.
>>173513117
>haven aegis
I think I just fought a certain dude who went candle + forbidden ritual on me. I had to play dragon on that game, though.
>>173513140
>>173513149
>Muh design space argument
Not an argument. They can print other combo cards than roach. Once they print something that is objectively better than roach we will replace it. The problem is they refuse to do so and only give us shit combo cards.
>>173513083
Are you playing Dshift?
>>173513335
>what is bolt and doge
>>173512945
>a +4 card is win more
Unless you're Shadow you aren't refilling that board easy.
>>173513335
>Once they print something that is objectively better than roach we will replace it.
No, once they print something objectively better than roach forest will use both.
So if a friend just started to play and wants to use a necromancer deck what would you recommend him?
>>173512096
Didn't let my memes be dreams. Hear the Ancient Forest Dragon Roar!
>>173512170
We've seen 20/20 big guys from 7 sigils. Theoretically they could make a 22/22 big guy but I dunno not to mention they eat shit so often.
>>173512453
Pretty much. They can't keep a ward board for robin hood to work as a pseudo-board clear. Noble fairy requires a princess mage evo and another turn. Pegasus elf only clears one. Will of the fuckers chokes on a thick defensive board.
I'm really not liking that Shadow is tempo elf but better either
>>173513335
>JUST print something better than Roach
Did you seriously just say that?
>>173512869
Jungle warden saved my ass. He dropped another one not enhanced because I killed his desert rider, together with that wraith ward with bane. I had to traded them with my 2 roaches. Jungle warden and elf queen were the stars. I healed 2(two) times with elf queen.
>>173513342
Midshadow with a bricking hand more appropriate to deal with aggro shadow. Oh well, it's all for grinding the last sleeve anyway.
>>173513389
>can't refill a board against dragon
you are just going to lose to Baha anyways, you are shit if you can't play around that
>>173513462
>playing shadow
>mad when dragon bm you
Eat shit pedonigger. Where is your Khawy now?
>tired of all this shadow cancer in ranked
>go play t2
>oh wait shadow is also the best there
>cucked out of another 5win run
>>173513404
Shadowcraft. You have a lot of when your follower dies effects and some that interact with your graveyard cards
>>173513157
remove charonn add Dance of dead
add reaper if you can this card will really boost your deck
>>173513507
We're talking about Ouroboros here, not Bahamut.
>>173513554
>pedon
You have to go back.
>>173513554
>implying I was mad
>still haven't gotten over kawaii ptsd
Rowen please chill.
>>173513398
>Implying we have enough fairy generator to use both
Even if we use both, you have to notice that roach is getting weaker with each expansion so in the future it would be at best a mediocre cards among the powercreeps.
>>173513382
Those are different combo cards. What I mean is something that scale with how many cards you've played this turn.
Wolfbolt is a nice additional but in no way they replace the functionality of roach.
Concede please? 55126
>>173513507
This. They're guaranteed to have a bahamut/lightning blast around t6-8 when they hit 10pp and it's over. You just can't match their impact
>>173513624
>we are talking about ouro not baha, argument denied
>its fine for me to mention lighting blast though
Owlcat sleeves when?
>>173513157
You really need Reaper m8, he's the real firepower of the deck.
>Need advice on mulligan, not sure how hard I should mull for a 1 drop, usually I keep a 2-3 curve going first, going 2nd, I mull anything above 3 to look for a 1 drop (the 1 mana card draw doesnt count as a 1 drop).
1 drops are important but if you have a 2 drop for the opening hand, keep at least one. If you already have 1 and 2 drops ready, try to mull for Prince/Howl.
>>173513683
>>/gbfg/
>>173513612
Charons been pretty nice for me, its where I dump most of my shadows too at t5.
Its pretty bad vs midrange shadow though.
>>173513716
>Implying we have enough fairy generator to use both
I've seen lot of forest players using both beetle and roach together.
>>173513731
Yes. Two cards were being compared. You were bringing in a third card that wasn't part of the discussion. And you're still wrong about Lightning Blast being "win more".
How do I record my games on steam?
>>173513224
>You forgot to take into account that I already mentioned eachtar
as far as I know I'm talking to different people, since there are no ids I treat and answer posts individually unless they're in my reply chain. the first reply to my post was >>173511215 which is literally not an argument and just a personal attack.
>Also the "no no this card is totally shit" when we discussed about every new shadow cards right before the expansion is very disingenuous.
what does that have to do with anything I said
>>173513883
Because you can EPM turn 4, drop double fairies turn 5, then beetle and roach. They don't interfere with each other since beetle's buff is permanent.
I watched some dragon mirror match where 22 turns into the match both players were still full HP.
Multiple Fortes were played. Zell/Saha/Bahamut combos were played. Bahamut wars lasted 5 turns.
It was literally legendary after legendary played for 10 straight turns. It was like watching two Gabens with their dick wrapped in money cock fighting each other.
BIG
PHOENIX
DICK
Apparently while doing my daily I found the one dragon on ladder that doesn't run Lightning Blast.
>>173513942
>That is a personal attack
lol
Here is your last (You).
>>173513725
Thanks Cerb
>>173513941
>downlod OBS
>upload on mixtape.moe or use webm for retards
>show the players here
>>173513915
>I can bring a card into comparison, but you can't
damn you are fucking right. That totally beats my arguments.
>>173514138
All I said was that Lightning Blast was better than Ouroboros. You couldn't counter so you bring in Bahamut, which is irrelevant. Lightning Blast is stronger than Ouroboros. Its that simple. Bahamut is better than both so its irrelevant.
>>173514034
How's aina working out?
>>173514234
thx for telling me you are trolling, that really saves both of us time
>>173514252
Second game, really well so far.
>>173513849
Why did you link this to him? Is it because /gbfg/ is gay?
Can cygames make Themis 7 mana to be fair with the other classes? Thanks
I cry every time I look at homecoming with 7 mana
>>173514103
>ignores rest of the argument
>provides none of his own
nice job retard
never post again
every expansion this general gets more and more hostile. can't we just accept that there's going to be an OP deck every expansion and get along? i want my comfy board back
>>173514327
not an argument
>>173514443
Themis needs to be 5pp desu also banish instead of destroy
>>173514501
join to the blood brigade we are literally kyo
>>173514391
I don't understand why is noone using her. Girl in Forte on steriods in this skelly meta.
>T8 forest faggot suicides wolf in my minion
> T9 i'm at 20 hp forest plays bolt and deals 9 damage
>T10 heal with curate to 16 hp, forest plays bolt for 0, then bolt for 9
wow, master players are truly on the next level
>>173514443
>Thanks
>I cry every time I look at homecoming with 7 mana
Because Homecoming is a hand refiller in a combo class.
>>173514501
reddit is waiting
>>173514501
Too late the hearthbabs have already taken over and they won't stop whining until they quit the game.
>>173514391
See this shit, storm dragon was always good against shadow, even Nep.
The problem is that retards fell for the Saha ramp meme previous expansion and insisted on playing nothing but it the entire time, tanking the winrate because of the unfavorable Nep match up and bitching so hard they've forced Cygames to make Dragon broken in all accounts.
>>173514501
The discordfags have a 400-500 strong army of normies controlled by attention whore vaginas and a few Chads who send their legion s after anything they don't like. They force memes, hijack OPs and generally shit up the place beyond belief, with the janitors on their side of course.
It's all downhill from here lad. The only thing that triggers them nowadays are namefags.
>>173514501
Kill urself my man
>>173514393
Yes, def one of the faggiest generals and the homoposters in /gbfg/ aren't fujos like /drg/'s
>>173514443
All total board wipes should come at a premium.
>Themis 7 pp
>Revelation 9 pp, Vengeance cost 5 pp
>Will of the Forest 6 pp
>Enhanced Salamander's Breath 7 pp
>Lightning Blast 10 pp Banishes all of Dragon's shit too
>Foul Tempest +1 necromancy cost
>Cyclone Blade doesn't work with ambush followers
>>173514476
Just ignore that kind of post. There's always a guy whining about Shadow every thread, probably a Haven player.
>>173511241
>people posting my OC
I love you guys.
Should I make one with morde?
>>173514501
Its too late. There are already lots of underage retards thanks to /hsg/ infesting this place.
>>173514443
maybe this is an unpopular opinion but homecoming at 7 is great for wolf combos because you can still play cards like tia, wotf and jungle warden in the same deck
now harvest festival has no reason to stay the way it is
>>173514501
Steambabs have changed this place and me forever
>>173514443
>tfw they nerfed a lot of forest cards even though they are not oppressive
Who would imagine that they are fine with Aegis, Blast, Eachtar, Catacomb, Grimnir and Zell while homecoming and harvest are not ok.
>>173514094
Maybe he just didn't draw them.
I swear the Eris leader is the only way I'm able to stomach playing against this cancerous craft
She's just so damn cute its hard to hate her.
>>173514853
I like your idea of increased costs. I also like that cyclone blade change
>>173514997
>and me
How did you change?
>people still play discard dragon
>>173514664
>Refill hand with 7 PP
More like Forest is completely open for opponent to set up field unless it's Wolfcoming deck
>>173514094
>look mom i dropped my khawy on curve
Just kill yourself pedonigger.
>30 win streak
>those attendants without activator
How do they do it?
>>173515151
what's wrong? can't mindlessly drop bahamuts? must be a hard life
>>173515151
lul Rowen will forever be haunted by Khawy, even after Cygames printed Lightning Blast.
>>173514501
They keep deleting my Arthurian light, polyphonic roar, and titania's sanctuary. There can be no peace.
>>173515257
>Shit talking a craft that cannot beat you since last expansion
You are a really tough guy, aren't you?
>>173515152
your enemy will want to activate that attendant once it's evolved and buffed by orthrus
>>173515152
The secret isthe opponent activates it for them.
>>173514853
Even themis isnt enough to deal with shadow cancer now. Shadow will be even more cancer than it already is
>>173515152
Orthrus/Cerb/Eachtar makes him not hit like a kitten anymore. It's basically a lose-lose situation for them whether they try to remove him and the lich or not.
>>173515152
I can understand the idea behind that.
Since you don't really want to kill an attendant, since its summons the Lich, You can safely drop buffs on it, like Orthrus or Coco, and since people don't want to clear it, you always have a target for Eachtar.
There are better 3 drops imo, but if it works, i'm not judging.
>>173514853
Hmmm I wonder who could be behind this post
>>173514443
It lets you reuse pegasus elf, may, noble fairy, and your other fanfares
>>173514853
Breath would be unplayable at 7. It already struggles
>>173515258
Master shadowbabs don't even run Khawy anymore.
>>173514853
>Everyone else gets insane penalties
>Foul tempest gets 1 extra necromancy cost
woah I really wonder who's behind this post
>>173514653
just play around 27 damage to the face that you can't avoid bro :^)
>>173514856
kinda hard to avoid when everyone is anonymous, but I'll try my best
>>173515429
breath is a really amazing card for its flexibility alone, I wouldn't nerf it though
>>173515351
relax cracker, like i said i was just doing my dailies
i dont even have a good shadow deck
Rope and bm every shadow players everyone
>>173515607
Yeah, it has its moments but it also has many moments they have 1+ def left
>>173515134
Nigger if you weren't playing during standard with Forest deporting your entire fucking board while refilling his hand for free on turn 5 then shut the fuck up already
>>173501368
If at least durandal had the same protection as Aegis she could be somewhat decent as a tech card.
Make windblast 3 mana too while you're at it
>>173515661
Feels good to draft two Eachtars, a Thane, LotF and Bahamut for Take Two
>>173515661
Please refer to >>173506018
SHOULD I USE ALL MY VIALS TO MAKE DRAGON DECK
>>173515661
Hear.
>>173515661
Or don't be a bad sportsmen and run a counter deck to bully them instead?
>>173515661
eris is a good girl, she would never encourage such behavior
>trades positively into a bahamut drop with his body intact
>+2 to a surviving board, blowing cynthia and wind god out of the water for tempo shifts
>superior to corpse party and death's breath
>not locked into just zombies or something retarded, literally works in every deck
What the shit is this card even?
>>173515787
YOU COULD BUT DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE PURE HOTNESS DUE TO YOUR LACK OF PILOTING AND DECKBUILDING SKILL
>>173515787
nah dragon sucks.
is like yurius at RoB
>>173515809
>counter deck
What did he mean by this
>>173515661
>hagshitters
What's wrong? Mad that you still lost even after spamming your Cuckgels and Rituals? How pathetic do you have to be to cry over a matchup you are supposed to hard counter?
>>173515784
No, people who have a Mord portrait are equally cancer. All Shadow gets roped. Blame it on the misfortune of your craft.
>>173515921
http://usamin.love/card/demonlord_eachtar/j_evolve.wav
>>173515921
The buff is worse than Cynthia since he only buff once and it's not permanent.
Dragon heals are so fucking out of control. Holy shit.
>tfw roping a shadowbab right now
>>173516119
Oy vey
>>173516119
Does Cynthia summon up to 4 2/2s and make then 4/2s with Rush that turn? No. That's why he's a better tempo shifter. He turns the tables in a ridiculous way.
>>173515787
Don't vial your entire collection my dude.
>>173516119
Cynthia doesn't give Rush so her buff is already objectively worse.
>>173516119
>Cynthia or fairies surviving beyond the turn they are played
XAXAXA good joke comrade
>>173516015
>even the supposed hard counter class cant deal with shadow cancerous shit now
Makes u think.
>Swordcraft Story level 11
How the fuck am I supposed to beat this without a full meta-viable deck?
Getting past 2 Leonidas with Ward is fucking impossible.
>>173516181
Gonna start doing this. Not even Daria was this cancerous on ladder.
>>173516265
just unga bunga his face
>>173515152
>no mummy
Literally why?
>>173515123
I left this general after DE and Steam release, was way too toxic initially. I started to come back after RoB and ended up enjoying and sharing the Daria salt. This was after I planned to main Sword and Rune before SV launch.ToG's now come round and here I am moaning about Shadow
>tfw using Aina against shadowkids
Which one of you cucks was it?
>>173515661
some small part of me actually feels bad for haven, but then i remembered when i first started this game in DE and i got buttraped by banish nonstop and autolosing to seraph playing nep in RoB. so nah fuck you guys
Aggro Blood is going to rise because the Yurius tech is gone and he's going to ping Shadow to death if they spam skeletons.
Still pretty effective and I run zero Vanias.
>>173516119
>Accusing of other people not having an argument
>When you yourself are piss poor at forming one
wew lad
>>173516247
>>173516245
>>173516212
>>173516208
Eacthar is understatted idiots. Cynthia also can create board by evo which is cheaper than necromancy. Fucking forestnigger think their overstatted card is shit compared to Eachtar when it's actually better in almost every situation.
>>173516378
even with perfect ramp vampy beat me
>>173516358
You have to go back.
What's with all the midrange shitshow death's ledger decks, I'm facing nothing but this at AA2?
>It's a frog Erika
>They play it on curve
>Double dragon wings their Kermit
>They don't evolve aggressively to apply pressure once it's clear I'm JO
>Apparently don't have any other officers to boost
>Drop my crystal
>Keep removing his plays
>Get into earthshock pp
>Start rockin' the earthshocks
>Kill Erika
Man that had to stung. She overcomitted to her frog husbando and fell flat as a result.
>>173516119
>Cynthia's buff
>Ever getting use
>Lasting more than a turn even then
Hahaha
>173516470
Doesn't even deserve a (You)
>>173515693
And concede initiative to your opponent so he can fill the board with +1pp or storm your face again? DE storm haven literally kept ptp in check. It was a bad decision to nerf an old card at the same time as the release of a new expac
>>173515661
>tfw your two favorite classes are Shadow and Haven
>>173516370
>Muh banishcaust
Haven isnt even t1 for long in one expansion its supposed to be good. It was sword and forest who dominate d the meta
>>173515921
>>trades positively into a bahamut drop with his body intact
uses 12 shadows as well
enemy can baha next turn in response
there are cards better at this than him so it's a pretty bad point
>>+2 to a surviving board, blowing cynthia and wind god out of the water for tempo shifts
legendary 7pp beats 5pp and 6pp golds
you could argue wind god is better for aggro decks since it comes earlier
>>superior to corpse party and death's breath
different utility
>>not locked into just zombies or something retarded, literally works in every deck
this is true but not sure if it's a valid complaint
the two gold cards you mentioned also have no arbitrary restrictions
that is not the card you should be complaining about
>>173516470
>he thinks horseman is worse than a second rate card
>>173516470
Eachtar is better playing from behind because rush.
He's also arguably better from ahead if the extra attack he gives can close out a game.
He's good without evo which is pretty huge since Shadow wants to go first.
>>173516470
Understatting doesn't matter when it's still a strong follower and it makes a 4/x rush board out of hand. Cynthia can't do anything with those faeries and dies the next turn.
>>173516508
People trying to work with what they got probably. Know if a netdeck dropped?
>>173516470
>Muh six million banishes!
>>173516470
Here's my reply for u
>>173516508
Death's Ledger is a meme my dude. Be happy you got those free points.
>Orthus needs 4 shadows now
>zombie party enhance bumped to 8
>luminous mage now 2/2 and evo stats of 3/3
>Aegis now 7/7 no stat gain from evo
>lightning blast requires a discard
>jungle warden has rush now
>sneks now 4/4
>grimnir does 5 aoe damage but not to face
Idk how to nerf rune
>>173516550
Tournaments in DE were dominated by midrange Sword and ptp Forest. Midrange Sword and ptp Forest were the most popular decks after the Haven honeymoon was over. PtP Forest wasn't killed for good until RoB for reasons completely unrelated to Haven.
Fuck off you history revisionist.
fucking retard blood players cygames should nerf soul dealer this card is bullshit now and have WARD.
DIE VAMPY DIE
>>173516583
why should i care if haven was or was not actually t1 in DE? all i care about was shadow's abysmal 30% winrate vs haven. it's the same logic dragonfags used to whine about nep. you fuckers made life hell whenever i queued against you, so now you're getting what's coming to you.
>>173516339
>10 damage by Aina in T4
>thinking
>trade
>another 7 gamage by Forte
>win
Male dragons are fucking incompetent.
>>173516015
I don't play haven but I can't wait for you smug faggots to get hit with nerfs. I remember haven ever shitting up this board like you shadow players do even before the expansion you guys were always the worst posters.
>>173516385
where the hell did he say that
>>173516791
Post deck and I'll tell you how to stop the peddler menace
>Thread filled by salty rune and sword faggots crying about shadow because their braindead decks aren't tier 1 anymore
I'm done with this general. Good bye.
>>173516470
So what happens when you play Cynthia while you have no board and no evo points left? Would you rather have stats or Eachtar?
Should I just be jerking off to thick lolis instead of browsing this shithole?
It really seems like the better use of my time.
>>173516775
t. E rank
>>173516791
Are you OK?
>>173516470
You know your argument is worse than horseshit when even the namefag is calling you out. There are at least 2 of you cancers who are defending shadow using this retarded way, you guys have way too much time and up nothing good. No wonder shadow is hated here more than Daria and Unga sword combined.
>>173516897
This place has really taken a dive since ToG release.
>>173516873
>aggro shadow isn't braindead
bye shadowbab
>>173516529
Based JO bro. Do you still run Grea? I feel the 8 spot is getting overloaded with Ogre and Ouro.
>>173516791
I swear the only reason Eachtar is played because he's one sick topdeck.
Thinking I held off the skeleton army barely with my wards, Luna has no cards.
Then suddenly has a super Otohime with rush body guards, clears my whole board, and threatens lethal with a 5/6.
I topdeck a Goblin.
>>173516998
No. Can't afford it.
>>173516873
>tfw all version of shadows: aggro, midrange and control-nep are even more brain dead because all they do are dropping things on curve
The deck plays itself, you are just a vessel.
>mission win 3 ranked
>shadow
>shadow
>shadow
>shadow
>all of them managed to pull skelleton fag by turn 3
>all of them managed to pull eachtar by turn 7
>all of the used phantom howl
REPLACED
>>173516791
>Free vials man is now bullshit
Truly amazing. It's because midrange blood got support that he's not trash by the way, not because he's "bullshit". I, for one, welcome his usefulness since it harkens a viable blood archetype that actually plays like a unique deck.
>>173516664
>He's also arguably better from ahead if the extra attack he gives can close out a game.
"Arguably better" really
Would you rather have 1 damage or 2 damage (remember that followers rarely manage to stick in removalverse)
>have 12 cards that can ramp in my deck
>draw none of them until fucking turn 12
Is this a joke?
>5/6 with broken effect is understatted now
i've never seen so much autism in one board. are you guys ok? what the fuck is going on
This game feels like a fucking chore since the new expansion, I actually even fucking hate doing the dailies, it's just boring and I don't enjoy any decks.
>the opponent plays around Little Soulsquasher
>>173516791
IKE IKE
Can I get a concede? 62168
>>173517234
yeah you say that every expansion.
grow up
>>173508059
No fucking clue at this point. B rank is full of anti-aggro tryhards and I can't afford Walletcraft.
>>173517125
Now seeing closely, I just realized Soul Dealer has mustache AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>173517109
Rest in pepperonis.
>>173517273
kys shadownigger
>>173517109
I have been getting spooky skelly man in my opening hand a damn lot without mulliganing for it in particular. I don't understand it. At this point, just treat shadow like the new forest and don't let them build up to their AE which will always be in hand.
>>173517054
The other player could've just as easily topdecked a goblin as well. What would you rather have topdecked?
>>173516791
Soul Dealer is an auto lose against shadow. If you lose to kys as a Shadowbab you have to be a special kind of retard.
>>173516784
As if tournament is representative of overall winrates. Ptp was at 50% for the majority of DE. Most switched to tempo which had the best winrate until the end of DE with Midsword edging out tempo forest eventually.
>>173517258
>tfw tempo bats is worse than tempo elf which is worse than midrange shadow
>stop playing for a while
>try to play some
>lose 5 in a row
>derank
And another week of not playing this
>>173517194
>+2 attack to all other follower ONLY until the end of the turn
>broken
Fucking D3.
>>173517269
Thanks Vampy
>>173517109
>2017
>still playing ranked
I replace all ranked mission on sight.
There's no point in playing ranked unless you're already masters and is going for monthly rewards.
>>173517312
>anti-aggro tryhards
Aggro and Midrange Shadow has no counters.
Post your deck so we can make fun of you.
All Shadow player needs to be gassed
>>173517412
How do you become master though?
>>173517435
*comes back as a skeleton*
what you gonna do now, pussyboy?
Daria was worse and they will nerf shadow.
fuck rune
Dragonbros, do you keep Sibyl in your opening hand?
>>173516823
Who the fuck cares about nerf lmao, it being shit in DE didn't stop me from playing it, and I'll keep playing the craft because I like it. I crafted 3 Nepnep in RoB as soon as she's out of maintenance, and 3 Eachtars and 3 Atomeme on the first day of ToG, and I'll do the same for the Shadow lego in the next expac. Maybe you should stop whining and roping and use all that time instead to try and improve your deck.
>>173517501
Thanks!
>>173517550
No, you kill yourself
>>173517435
They need to be banned on sight for single handedly ruining this general
Need daily concede, thanks.
32058
Guy who played PTP Forest in Standard, Tempo Forest in DE, and Daria in RoB here. There is literally nothing wrong with playing the top decks. Stop whining about people playing Shadow/Dragon.
>>173517554
still gonna rope you
>>173517380
You need to tech in and switch out cards until you get a feel for the meta. Only one of my old RoB decks has 70% winrate right now.
>>173517412
>i play to lose
>>173517385
>otohime that buffs your own board and gave folllower rush
>not busted
Beginner 3?
>>173517582
Haventards are the ones ruining this general,though.
>RoB comes
>play ranked daily
>rino otk became a thing
>stopped playing ranked
>goblin mage nerfed
>go back to ranked
>nothing but albert sword
>stop playing ranked again
>ToG comes
>start playing ranked again after weeks
>nothing but midrange shadow
So, where do the fun starts?
>>173517550
Going second yeah
>>173517703
t. shadow player
>>173517703
kys shadownigger
>lose 6 games to luna
>start roping
>win
Huh, guess I'm doing this every single time now.
>>173517593
>tempo forest
>top DE deck
>>173509978
What if I played it on DE but dropped it entirely going as far as liquefying animated Cerberus? Fuck shadow, I don't want to kill the game.
>pre release
>everyone spamming that lightning blast will bring about the shadowcaust and the class will be extinct
>post release
>everyone complaining about shadow meta
I'll just be over here with my shitty commander decks having fun with a 40% winrate.
>>173517720
when you grow up and understand how card games works.
>>173517412
>There's no point in playing ranked unless you're already masters and is going for monthly rewards.
I'm master and playing to get all my leaders to lvl 100/unlock the 200 win flair.
How do I enjoy this game?
>>173517720
this must be your first card game kiddo
>>173517797
Play shadowcraft
>>173517593
It's pretty hard to do anything about shadow and dragon though. There's a problem when it reaches nothing you can do but hope they're retarded with an incomplete deck while bricking
>>173517720
When you join it, only play private matches with yoru steam friends, or uninstall
>>173517737
>>173517738
>Haventards constantly forcing their chemo meme
>Namefag is a Haventard as well
Also, I like Honestcraft aka swordcraft the most.
>>173517797
You don't
>>173517797
rope shadowbabs
>>173517604
If that helps you sleep at night, you poor soul.
>>173517842
>enjoying coinflip simulator 2017
>>173517720
What ass deck are you playing that's losing to everything at every expac?
>>173517797
play dshift
>>173517229
I've noticed people here that are absolutely obsessed. You come in the morning and you recognize the same shitposts about Shadow, Haven and Dragon that you see when you come later in the afternoon or at night.
If there's one thing you learn is that people's autism knows no bounds.
>>173517470
By playing the game in a time when there was more than one deck to be played.
Ranked went down the shitter after RoB.
There's a surprising amount of diversity in masters. Most of the shadows and dragons I see are AA players.
How do you mulligan for this thing? Do you give priority to value trades or face damage?
Sometimes I just blow fuckers out of the water with a Devil of Vengeance>Belphagor>Dark General, and sometimes I throw belphagor down just to get memed down from 10 hp.
>>173517769
You do you, Anon. I sincerely hope you're having fun, that'd be nice to hear for a change from this cellpool of a general.
>>173517769
Nep = shadow at that time, and Lightning Blast did help kill off Nep
>>173517737
>>173517738
Banish yourself hagfags or Rowen will have to do it for you.
>>173517332
>Let them alive
All get last word summon 1/1 to keep unga in safe
>Kill them dead
11 damage Howl + Ceberus
It's lose-lose either :^)
Does sword still no longer play Aurelia when it's probably the best tool against Shadow?
When I was able to two play of them turn 6 because they didn't kill Gawain, they conceded.
I'm just trying to imagine them going through 14 points of health in one turn when DoD or soulsquasher doesn't work.
>>173512772
Congrats you can now get roach lethals turn 5
>>173516784
http://shadowlog.com/s/trend/2016/45/0/
Posting stats to shut up "revisionists goyims"
Ptp 49.5% winrate.
>>173517980
Actually there are 2 decks, shadow and dragoncancer but yeah
>>173517593
During the time of PtP forest other classes did not feel as oppressed as they are right now. Forest meta was the best meta because everyone has a chance against each other while forest was at the top but it is not impossible to beat forest.
Erika is cute
>haven manages to clear my board except for gobu while healing up to 5
>1 evolve left
>tfw merman the evolved gobu for last 1 damage
whats wrong eris
Just opened up a Zeus. Doesn't look like he has a ton of impact and would be worth the 10 pp.
Should I just vial him?
>>173518093
Dragon is already down the shitter.
>>173517769
Yeah not like catacomb and othrus were the last classes revealed
>>173515447
Point is the ghost(or should I say skeleton) of Khawy still haunts >>173515151. Even when Khawy's not there, he's still there for him.
>>173518040
Nep was a fucking meme, the main Shadow deck in RoB was still Aggro.
>>173518152
what if ginger becomes op, zeus will be core anon
>>173518076
Illustrate to me how I can turn 5 lethal with roach because I can't see anyway this is possible.
>>173518152
he still a good card
>>173517797
Play wolfbolt.
>>173518193
Sounds like that guy has brain problems.
>>173518193
Friendly reminder to not reply to him, newfriend.
>>173518253
GOTTA GO FAST
>>173518091
Change to AA or Masters and notice how ptp is THE most played deck. Surely it couldn't have been that bad right?
>>173518239
>Deal 1 damage beforehand
>t4 EPM
>t5 Fairy Fairy Angel(1) Snipe Roach(7) Roach+Evo(9+2)
>>173518253
>there's a retard who fell for this
hahahaha
>shadowniggers complain about 56% winrate daria and albertcraft day and night nonstop everyday
>nobody bats an eye
>actual thinking individuals with functioning brains complain about shadow and their over 60% winrate double tier1 deck cancer
>omggg autizms...wtf this general do shit...
Really sahas my bahas
>>173518479
>Most played deck
>large sample size
>48.8% winrate at master
That means it is imbalanced! Yeah right. Wait lets see dshift was the 2nd most played deck and had higher winrate.
Dshift was even more op in a storm haven dominated meta. You cant make this up.
Can we all agree to make to stop the hostility and make this board a nice comfy space for lunafriends and dragonpals and everbody else?
>>173518662
What makes you think only shadow players were complaining about Daria? What about OTK forest before the nerfs?
>>173518479
More data for you revisionist.
http://shadowlog.com/s/trend/2016/51/4/
Storm haven more popular than ptp! 51.4 % while ptp was at 46%. Storm haven was imbalanced guys.
>>173519009
>Can we all
>>173516998
>>173517079
GIMME JO LIST. I NEED TO POWER UP MY CRYSTALS
>Liquify all extra cards
>Craft 3 Cerberus
>Complete my deck
>still have 30K vials left
>still have 20 Arena tickets left
Do I climb now??
>>173520321
Mine's too terrible. I only win against board flooders
fuck rowen