/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

>Civilization modding
- Wiki for Civ modding http://modiki.civfanatics.com/index.php/Main_Page
- Civ V mod workshop http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse?appid=8930
- Civ V mods http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=393
- More mods http://pastebin.com/5ANRmRur (embed)

>Alpha Centauri (SMAC & SMAX) resources
- Essential improvements http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Alpha_Centauri#Essential_improvements
- Official short stories https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cn11q7nqa00te/Alpha_Centauri

Just got stellaris, what am I in for?

Which Ascension Perks do you consider as good/bad choices? Which ones should one take first?

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Did they fucking lobotomise the Sector AI in Utopia? Why the fuck does it split all of its minerals across multiple objectives so it does none of them? WHY OF ALL THE ACTIONS DOES IT BUILD A GRID THERE!?!?!?

>>173455729
Retarded AI that cheats and is rigged to be a pest.

>>173455765
MOOOOOOOT!!!

Are there Hivemind primitives? Does the AI spawn?

Can I buy the base game and pirate the dlc?

>>173455906
>>173455765

Uh? That was weird. Why did it show a different picture? It was an official screenshot from Paradox's forums.

>>173455729
Dont expect to finish your first few games due to not knowing what your doing and slowly understand how to play over time. get used to going from FULL SPEED to pausing.

>>173455765
What the fuck, dude?

guided missiles in civ 6 when?

>>173456082
Make up your mind!

>>173456345
I just want to know if I should buy the base game and pirate the dlc of Stellaris

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>Start collecting an army of vassals
>AIs declare war on me because their fleet size is much larger than me
>The fucking goon swarm shows up and shits on them
>Open the diplomacy menu every once in a while to see shit like "How may I serve you master?"

You purge guys are doing it wrong

>>173455774
stellaris sector ai has always been the worst ai in vidya history bru

>psionic ascension

What the fuck were they smoking when they created that. Not like spiritual civs weren't strong enough already or anything.
Is there literally any reason (roleplaying doesn't count) to pick synthetic ascension over this? It gives you nothing of value whatsoever that psionics doesn't give you already, and makes half the galaxy hate your guts to boot.

Why aren't you fags in GSG?

>>173456593
Robots > Space elves

>>173456593
Can non-spiritualist empire still get the psionic tech?

>>173456564
>Open the diplomacy menu every once in a while to see shit like "How may I serve you master?"
You're evil. I love you.

>>173456667
Go ask /gsg/, faggot.

>>173456593
bio ascension is the best

>>173456428
Why not just do both? why go half way with either option?

>>173457152
what does that do, anyway

>>173457221
I want the mods from the workshop

THE END OF THE CYCLE

>>173456593
Is it really that powerful though? The first ascension perk only gets some leaders the psionic ability trait and you need the second one to get it for every leader. With gene modding you can mod your entire species for better traits much earlier and that'll give you benefits for the entire empire, not just leaders.

I know it is not the focus, but what tweaks did they do to combat?

>>173455906
>>173456304
>>173456156
>missed the pic
FUCK.

>>173456592
I have Respect Tile Recource turned on so WHY ARE THEY PUTTING POWER ON SCIENCE!?

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>decided to try out pacifists
>chose hyperlane travel
What the fuck was I thinking?

>>173457560
It's very easy to get the second ascension perk relatively quickly, and having your entire population be psionic in addition to the perks spiritual empires already get.

The biggest fuck you, really, is the The Shroud. The bonuses that thing gives you are ludicrous.

Bio-Ascension might be as strong or stronger, I wouldn't know since I haven't played them yet, but synthetic ascension belongs in the fucking trash bin in comparison.

Is there a single conceiveable benifit to picking hyperlanes? why would you destroy your movement like that?

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HAHAHAHAHA LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL NICE HAHAHAHA FUCK OFF!

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Well. This is an interesting start. Guess my colony ship didn't get that far from Sol afterall. Going to backup this save just in case.

>>173457929
Wouldnt you be able to drop all your farms and become more efficent? Does the game recognise them and make it impossible for others to have them set to livestock and most purge options?

>>173457929
The Shroud can fuck with you almost as often as it gives useful shit. Without zro to cut down on the costs it eats up stupid amounts of energy for inconsistent results. Gene modding is actually dependable in comparison, but yeah, syntethic seems really underwhelming.

>>173458017
Whats the problem hyperfriend?

>>173458018
means you won't have to wait until you kill them

>>173457931
Some people play games for fun.
Others want to relax.

OTHER JUST WANT GAME TO FUCK THEM IN THE ASS WITH A DILDO UNTIL THEY LOVE IT AND BEG FOR MORE

>>173456564
My current build is a reclusive celestial empire that vassalizes everyone to do my fighting while I hide in my corner of the galaxy ascending the physical plane.

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Governors are useless now

>reduces unrest
>reduces clear blocker cost and time
>both near inconsequential

WHAT ARE THOSE SWEDES DOING????

Can you even win if you go hyperlanes and have others have random? how can they even keep up with ther fucking baby steps?

>>173457560

Psion focuses on improving your leaders. It can turn on either weak or really powerful. It depends on luck, risks and dangers. The will of the Shroud decides.

Cyborg focus on improving your pops. It's steady and easy to follow, if a bit boring. That said, turning yourself into full synths may not be the best (you build pops instead of letting them grow naturally).

Genetics can focus on either.

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Fuck yeah \m/

Do Hivemind empires spawn naturally?

>>173458270
Militant isolationists right next door.

>>173458598
Hyperlanes is faster. If you don't go all hyper lanes it just forces you into a defensive play style occasionally

>>173458778
Yes, one started right next to me, I was going to treat them nicely but they closed borders so I wiped them out early

>>173456972
no

stellaris should have it's own general no1 even talks about the other games here

What does the Food Stockpilling policy do?

>>173458909
I rant about AoE2, Rise of Nations and Supreme Commander once in a while, but I reckong an illiterate retard can't figure.

Does it annoy anyone else that there are so many science officers you will have/want in every game?

You need 3 to start off with for all the research branches, then you'll want one on each science ship.

Governers you'll only have a few of I imagine, only need a few for the core worlds/sectors you are managing.

Then one or two admirals for your death fleets.

>Generals

Naturally this unbalance makes me think it's kind of weird. I sort of wish that science ships either didn't have officers (though that would ruin the anomaly game) or make all research have one primary director. This might actually be more interesting because then you'd actually have to choose if you want to specialize in physics, sociology, or engineering by picking your science officer instead of just picking the appropriate one for each slot and putting them in.

>>173458909
We talk about civ as well but stellaris just got an expansion so it's hot shit right now

>>173459010
I split my fleet into three and run three admirals.

>>173459010
That would incentivize fleeting species so they can diversify their science instead of getting pigeonholed to death.

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>>173459010
>stellaris
>balance

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>>173458909
>stellaris should have it's own general

and what do you think will happen to this general once Utopia hype dies down?

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>#fake_space_news
This is a new one, triggered because the first xeno finding was also the first ancient empire discovery.

>>173459010
While we're at it change the way governors are appointed to be based on your government type.
Democracies elect them, oligarchies are selected by the few in power who you can attempt to influence. Dictatorships appoint them as it is currently.

>>173459010
I really don't understand sectors, how many of them should I have for mid to late game? I only have 5 sectors but I'm nowhere near my sector limit and I can barely staff my current sectors with a governor at all times.

>>173459363
Aside from that a non stellaris 4x general would flat out die.

Are there any mods or overhauls that make Stellaris less like 4X and more like EU4 style grand strategy?

Is the cyborg decision just a one off thing? I want to spread my gift to the galaxy.

>>173459718
Yeah. Paradox is working on it, only 19.99£ my dear customer.

Or just mod CK2.

>>173459784
Thats the hivemind route senpai.

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Genetics path really is the best. I can easily make specialised planets with modified species for near 100% happiness regardless of factions like this. Each variation, tailored to a specific planet or habitat. Who needs synthetics when I can create a superior biological being?

>>173459363
>>173459597
Wait for a C# Aurora, this thread will live again.

>>173458994
not him but is there ANY reason to pick smaller stockpiles?

>>173460916

Faster pop grow.

>>173460916
In the stream they said it caused faster pop growth but I can't see any modifiers on the pops

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Oh come on.

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I just started a game with the Commonwealth of Man. 14 out of 18 of my leaders (including ones in each of the recruitment pools) and ALL of my starting leaders were women. What in the actual fuck. Paradox realizes women don't actually play this game, right?

>>173461038
>droids still grow at 1 per month
pls fix

>>173461248
You some kind of homo?

>>173461137
>Station under attack.
Naturally my mines are now being attacked by space ameoba.

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>>173455774
what the fuck. There's even an energy tile.

>boxed in by three federation builders who are circlejerking each other as an authoritarian xenophobe faction

epix

also you guys are really fucking bad at making new threads, aren't you

just make one at bump limit if you don't know what you're doing god damn

>>173461248
Paradox implies the neofeminist movement eradicates men over the next 200 years

>>173461248
>He doesnt imagine his female scientsits/Admirals being captured and raped by the enemy when they die

>>173455434
>pirates with a Cruiser are blocking off an entire arm of the galaxy, completely boxing me in and keeping me from expanding

thanks for telling me to play hyperlane only, /civ4xg/....

>>173462010
You know you can jump right by them assuming they aren't sitting right on the jump in point.

>>173462010
Guess you can try out tall then

>>173462010
It makes things more interesting. Now you need to end those pirates or expand into another empire

>>173462116
I just hope they havent completely rebuilt their fleet next time I go in, I killed everything except the cruiser

>>173456082
>>173457268
pls respond

>>173459180

Good. Fleeting and short lived species have an easy trade off for having 5 start scientists for less time then other species.

>>173457931
Objectively; forced hyperlanes only is the best way to play stellaris

Adds a layer of tactics to the game that the other options dont give.

>Construction complete!
>Planet X has finished its building queue.
>I have to open the planet and scan the surface to remind myself of what exactly I just finished building

Every god damn time. No wonder they felt the need to add the Sectors system.

Nice FUCKING game

>>173462225
That's what everyone here do. Except me because I'm not a filthy poorfag. I just hate Stellaris and don't give it my shekels.

>>173462369
>Play wormholes
>Shit im boxed in
>Literally just jump to the next arm of the galaxy

You arent wrong.

>>173461248
Is there a mod that allows for only male leaders?

>>173462437
Oh, thanks.

>>173462437
Not with Stellaris. I bought base CK2 and EU4, but Stellaris came out after I woke up to ((((them)))).

Also if those fucking russians can trick Steam into thinking I own 400 dollars worth of CK2 DLC, they can probably sneak my way into the Stellaris mod workshop too.

How do I force these unhappy alien fucks to change away from theif faggoty faction? I didnt conquer them to hear them complain about being more xenophobic and egalitarian. Why the fuck can they do pop ethics right?

>>173462563
It does require to :
1) find where to get them, it's some weird russian website, so scan the files right
2) move your folders around
3) edit your text files

>>173462742
>I bought base CK2 and EU4
And I bought them with all DLCs and I had a blast.
An anal one with CK2 and I'm still sore, and a nice one with Eu4.

The disappointment when I played Stellaris and, upon learning later that they changed it even more only ruined all confidence I had in Paradox. And that was before I learned about the human phenotype scandal or the rigged ethics.

>>173462768
Enslave them, purge them or liberate and integrate them

is there a way to expanding? max out as fast as possible?

>>173462854
>And I bought them with all DLCs

You mean all expansions, right?

>>173462868
>Enslave them, purge
not possible without xenophobe or authoritarian. I just wanted my military spiritualists to conquer the galexy. Why is it so hard?

>>173463109
I mean the DLCs. The ones that add gameplay. I don't consider the cosmetic/musical ones to be relevant at all.

I have money but I'm not stupid enough to waste it. That would be rude to people who don't have money.

>>173462909
collonies or boarder range?

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does empire wide surplus food increase empire wide population growth?

what are the benefits of sectors? what do they give you? what should you give them to get the most of of them?

>>173463219
>Talking like games are expensive

We get it, dude. You have money from working at Walmart

So I just had my scientist make himself like our ancestors and everyone sounds prety hyped so I allow it to go all the way and some weird things happen. My rule and some leaders didnt change and ALL MY MAIN POP IS NOW INSTANTLY 100% MADE PACIFISTIC IN MY SPIRIT MILITARY GOVERNMENT REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

>>173463417
>what are the benefits of sectors?
They free some planet from your cap.
>what do they give you?
Increased blood tension because the IA is retarded.
>what should you give them to get the most of of them?
A new patch to make them less retarded.

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Updated my mod.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=683145075

Made mostly for myself, but it has a neat mechanic, a semi-immortal divine ruler. The "heir" is always a reincarnation of the ruler. You can also risk your ruler on the battlefield as an admiral. If you die without a prepared reincarnation clone, you get like a -40% happiness modifier.

Deploy EVA's as well.

>>173463145

Then you don't add them into your empire dumbass, either exterminate them via bombing or vassalize instead of taking their land. Better yet, even if you can't purge them or enslave you can forcibly deport them and make them into space Syrian refugees for other alien species to not want either. or just use the hell out of armies to quell rebellion.

>>173463594
I thought the angels came from Lillith while the humans came from Adam?

>>173463594
>Lasers instead of nukes
You were so close

>>173461248
Same thing for me. all 10 of my leaders are women and it's been 9-10 for the last 60 years. I don't mind women but this is just fucking stupid.

>>173463719
Not in Evangelion, the humans are the demons, the Lilim born from Lilith.

>you were the demons all along

>>173463732
Lasers are cooler

>>173463552
so they are useless? you don't get resources form them? what about naval capacity?

>>173463801
Have I absolutely, completely misunderstood NGE all this time?

>>173463691
>if you can't purge them or enslave you can forcibly deport them
CANT DEPORT UNLESS AUTHORITARIAN OR XENOPHOBE LMAO!!!!!!

>>173463946
You wouldn't be the first bro. ;_;

>>173464038
Mmm... Weird. Then again, it's been a while since I watched it. And I didn't understood a single thing in the movie because that scene where the NERV scientists are burned alive traumatized me as a kid. Well, as a teenager.

>>173463916
They give you either 0,25,50 or 75% of their recources depending on what you set it to and the space stations are completly under your control and add naval. They cant manage planets for shit.

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I just started a game and these squid shits show up in a near by system. How fucked am I?

>>173464272
They just fly through your systems like a heard of fat cows. Ignore them. its when going into other systems when you should be afraid of things. Roaming shit is generaly harmless. Just look at it, yellow is mellow. Red is coming for your space brains.

>>173464003

I mean what do you expect? You're conquering people that don't want to be conquered. They'll be part of your empire now and you'll have to try to keep them happy, or just don't take them in in the first place.

>>173464237
>hit 'em again
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>173464708
The mangas aren't better either.
>that scene where Asuka get torn into pieces
>changed into a gangbang where Asuka get her mouth, groin and asshole pounded mercilessly by the smiling eyeless white birdies
I lost my innocence to Internet that day.

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>Finished up my first game
>So now im modding the shit out of utopia

Any recommendations? So far I have a shit tone of canon races added.

>>173464856
Asuka deserves it tho.

>>173464920
>krogan
>slow breeders
lmao desu, genocucked

>>173464937
I disagree. She deserves a few slaps but not to be torn in pieces.

>>173464920
No missiles.

>>173465092
>I disagree. She deserves a few slaps but not to be torn in pieces.
Eh well she survives in the end anyway so let's have that count as the slaps she deserves.

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>tfw your best friend is slaver
At least he wont try to take my planets, I guess.

>>173465510
>thried to purchase the leader
top kek

>>173465292
Eh. Makes sense. She ends up recovering and has all her limbs anyway.

>>173465510
I had this exact same empire get crushed between humanity and some birdshitters

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>>173464268
thx m8

Have they hinted at whats next for stellaris?

Wiz mentioned they started working on something

>>173456428
Yes, you can, and you should.

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Can someone explain to me why for the love of god when they have 507 minerals and 6 planets with plenty of unbuilt areas and one unemployed guy not a single building is being constructed. Why in gods name is the money devided into different buildings so that literaly nothing gets made? I'm just glad its some filthy xeno worlds and not one of my peoples colonies or I would freak.

Should I roll with F. Spiritualist xenophobe or F. Xenophobe spiritualist

>>173466375
>Can someone explain to me why for the love of god when they have 507 minerals and 6 planets with plenty of unbuilt areas and one unemployed guy not a single building is being constructed
>Why in gods name is the money devided into different buildings
Well you answered your own question didnt you

I always keep 1000 minerals in every sector, it ensures the AI actually builds continuously since nothing costs that much.

>>173465803
Nevermind, found it
>We typically start working on the next update 1-2 weeks after we go into code freeze. 1.6 will be a smaller scope bug fixing and quality of life update though.

>>173463719
Is the other way around, humans come from Lilith.

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Alright. This should be an interesting game.

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>sectors STILL aren't fixed despite Wiz saying he completely rewrote them
reEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>173467084
>Go down the colonizing trait list ( as you always should )
>Get the core sector system perk for my first asencion
>Now have 11 core worlds + whatever set up you have

Works fine on my machine

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https://youtu.be/s9imok679pQ?t=2m45s
>mfw this part starts playing

>>173466443
F xeno for dat boarder range senpai

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Post your cool empires and I'll r8 them.

Here's mine, if you want to r8 it too.

I have a question about Ethos/Traits.

If I'm playing a xenophobic species, will Charismatic alleviate the penalty enough to be worth it, or should I take Repugnant, double down on the dislike, and get a free trait point?

Additionally, what trait points should I take if I'm playing a Spiritualist/Pacifist/Xenophobe species?

>decide I'll stop playing after I win this war, and have dinner and watch anime like a civilized person
>faggots kill my army while they're in transports
Why is this game so fucking frustrating?

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>>173467793
Post your cool empires and I'll Add them to my game

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Is there any way to preview how my borders are gonna look like after I dismantle a frontier outpost?

These things are ridiculously expensive to maintain and build influence-wise. Do I just have to accept border gore? (Hyperlanes-only game, if that matters)

>>173467793
>Those two 'Goods' type perks
Why do that for such a miniscule mineral cost?

Does anyone have a rule the waves torrent?

>>173467793
Has a biography/10

(that's the lowest ranking, so stop being autistic)

>>173467868
charasmatic and repugnant are for xeno happiness on the same planet. Get that free repugnant point boy.

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Can you mine 1 energy?

>>173468221
Charismatic does give you a +15 relationship bonus to aliens, but I'm wondering if it's worth it.

What other traits would you recommend?

>>173468302
Of coursh

>>173468031
Youre doing it wrong. you only use them for strategic purposes such as getting shit loads of recources. You fucking mad man, you built two for DIRT. What made you do that?

>>173468427
Will i get anything out of it?

>>173468560
>DIRT

that map only shows the resources I'm NOT mining/researching on those systems.

>>173468585
A station to shoots pirates from :^)

>>173468382
Sedentary and Repugnant are what you should get every game for free points because you shouldnt be manualy moving your main pops when you can just let them do it on their own to a new colony. It just makes it slower and gives you time to expect those building vacancies. Strong if you expect to be waring (nice minerals). Cant go wrong with intelegent if you can afford it. Long lived is nice too for the 1 point.

Thats basicaly what I get every game. Conformist and deviant seem like utter trash now and are pure chance, ignore them.

>>173468585
you get 1 energy. Prety sure space power doesnt cost power to run.

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Jesus Christ.. damn what should I replace corvettes with? Should go 1:2 battleship:cruisers?

>20 years of sector management
>thousands of resources
>still only on 4 population
>2 buildings
>no robots built

How the fuck have they not fixed this yet?

>>173469252
>having battleships, cruises and cyborgs 40 years into the game
stop cheating

>>173469252
>instant_colony
>instant_move

>you share a general with these people

>>173469565
Only cheat I've used this game was - adding traits to scientists admirals and leaders because it made more sense from the perspective of a dictator - why the fuck wouldn't I put the best people in command.

It's just that I took explorer tradition and haven't expanded that much with focus on exploration for bonus research and it worked fine I'm 2.5x more advanced than other civs around me.

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>want to drink up the limitless potential of a robotic civilization
>cant...
>could build habitats and colonize even the harshest living conditions with tomb worlds FILLED with machines pumping things out that make fallen empires cry
>could enjoy dyson spheres with non-physical intelligences pumping out SCIENCE
>could put worlds above my planet cap to "slumber" away the years as smaller passive bonuses to the empire
>could slumber away galaxy threats and life purging threats as all powerful spoopy skelingtons
>could end the galaxy via WGDs
>tfw it'll never happen

fml senpai someone modding synthetic ascension into something terrifying and powerful when?

>>173469663
I've tested the arcology thing see how many tiles it got lol and I also needed instant colony because I cba to wait 5 minutes just to observe a test, reverted back to save before that and haven't closed the menus.

>>173469783
Stop lying idiot we can see the
>instant_colony
>instant_move
right in your screenshot

>>173469886
I'm not lying tho - I've siad that I cheat but only that that extent, they were there for a test and It's damn 5 am I was too blind to be bothered by them.

>>173469884

>The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>173470009
>I admitted I cheat but I didn't mean to get caught at it
This doesn't make it better.

>>173470225
Wtf is the point of all this - I just said that the only aspect of the game I cheated on is the traits of some leaders, beyond that I play normally so my desire to find optimal routes is still there.

>>173468001

8/10, dumb races are rare. I like this race because I could easily see it as a conquering who manages to win out of sheer brutality and force, and also as slaves who end up getting beaten and used everywhere as armies.

Also, I made a race almost exactly like that one pre-Unity. Same ethics, government, even had the mass drivers and wormhole travel that had the exact same portrait. Kind of weird, but cool.

>>173468056
It fits with the theme.

>>173468145
Fuck off.

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>>173470501

So, after I've finished with the Discovery perks, which Tradition should I start working through?

>>173470920
expansion / harmony
expansion / domination

>>173470920

I like Harmony

>>173470985
>>173470990
Thanks!

Why is authoritarian synonymous with slavery in Stellaris? Sure, a slaver empire would be authoritarian but not all authoritarian forms of government require slaves. I want to make a materialistic surveillance-based dictatorship that throws people in jail for literal thought crimes. I really don't think they thought through egalitarian and authoritarian.

>>173459784
I used to be able to mod in new species but that option stopped after I synthesized everyone.

>all FEs hate me and say I killed everyone while making shitty copies of them
>su-superstitious fools they can't be right, right

So, how's the Shroud?

>Setting up a civ dedicated to robits
>Want Mechanist but it seems like it would be shit in the long run compared to other stuff.

I'll more than likely get robit technology pretty fast yeah?

>>173471449

all it does is give early robo tech which you can get early enough anyway and replaces 4 of the 8 starting pop with robots that aren't as effective as normal pops

I regret picking it in my recent playthrough, can't get rid of it after a game begins either so its pretty much a waste

>>173471449
Mechanist can be good provided you offset it with complementary species traits (thrifty/slow breeders/etc)

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>>173471449
Yeah, it's an early tech
> That feel when you build the optimal number of robots working the optimal tiles to have a perfect balance of organic and mechanical labour
Spiritualshits will never know this feel

>>173471242
Think of slaves as thought criminals.

>find the cultist flagship
>track it on map
>it's in the middle of a fallen militant isolationist empire

epic!

>>173471787

In you go nigga

>>173471787
something similar happened to me but on the other side of a 1000 star galaxy

do planets under sectors count towards the research penalty?

>>173471871

>buy something off of science curators
>its on the other side of a 1000 star galaxy
>im using wormholes

worst meme

>>173471901
Yes.
Don't worry about it though, the benefits of rapid expansion offset the deficits.

Any way to fix the stutter in Stellaris? It's fucking ridiculous how bugged the game is, you can't even play in windowed mode

I'm always afraid of using wormholes incase some sneaky fucker hops his ships behind mine while I'm bombarding his planets and cuts of my wormhole generators and leaves my fleet stuck.

Are my fears justified?

>>173472074
describe the number of people in your galaxy, the year, and your CPU

>>173472074
You mean the auto saving that happens at the end of every month?

>>173472120

Yeah it's a valid complaint, their biggest downside. I sold a wormhole generator while my fleet was still beyond it so they got stranded til I could build another.

You can place them strategically and place defense platforms around em so it's not that bad.

Hows this look for a civ thats going to rush for robot ascension?

>>173472293
Pretty decent

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>>173472363
>>173472293
Woops

>>173471274
A slot machine with a deal with the devil that you can take that gives you doubled income for 50 years then destroys EVERYTHING except for 1 world and give birth to a 1M fleet strength chaos god

>>173472448
I would take nationalist zeal for the 10% border range, because you're going to have to stay low on planets if u want to rush technologies / less pop you have / less colonies and the more research you have the faster you will rush towards end goal.

>>173472225
spooky to think your entire civilisation accidentaly suicide for real into copies that arent even your mind. Like a cut and paste.

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>>173472448

>Ugly, craven fucks wanting to cast their untermensch shell off to become swole robo gods

Looks good

>>173472693
I feel like the robots from ironman 2 were tougher than ultron bots. Why was he made of paper?

>>173472640
When you go to sleep and wake up it's the same thing - you just continue from the last save but the conscious awareness shits down at one point.

Same goes for a clinical death and many such medical cases.

It's just some instincts, genetic coding in us which make us feel emotional about death - nor life or death exists it's all just programs.

>>173472165
a few billion
2007
integrated graphics

wat do you do to appease those lil "stratified society" shits in a faction?

>>173472165
>>173472219
Literally at the beginning of the game
Even when clicking on something has some weird latency, animations are very slow etc

I do not know if it's because my CG (GTX760) is becoming old or some driver stuff is holding back the game but it runs like total shit

I have a pirated version tho

>>173472941
>2007
WHAT WAS WILL BE

>>173473049
paradox games are all extremely heavy on CPU (namely at maximum speed)

but anyways, works for me :^)

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Best choice out of these?

Border range would steal a lot of territory from another empire I was about to invade, and a shitload of a Fallen Empire's territory that I colonized on the border of

Already at 6/6 core worlds but have 3 more planets at 90% hab to colonize in my borders including a sexy 25 tile one

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Just found out that you don't need to be a spiritualist to get psionics.

>>173473702
Can you still go down the spirtualist ascension path?

>>173473742
If you can get psionics, You probably can, again I think your only locked out if you go materialist.

>>173473678
>>173473678
>>173473678

Anyone please

>>173474047
For me, it'd be the technological ascendency. But again, I have a habit of playing tall most of the time.

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>halfway through ringworld construction construction crews disappear
>cant find them but its only a thirty-day delay so w/e
>bit later, find space worms who rode the rocks from the planets they were mined
>they're furry and make cute noises (coo coo, which is also their name) so people adopt them
>let it continue because people are lonely since their friends left
>suddenly giant space butterflies appear, turns out the Coo Coo were just larvae
>crews enter their tunnels and find the half-eaten remains of the missing crew
>give the order to have the entire ringworld roach bombed
>when the thing is finally finished, one of the segments has an alien pets resource
lmao, I don't even have the slow learner trait

>>173474047
I personally preffer - technological ascendency if I want to rush synth ascensions.

Otherwise depending on what I play - one vision if I want to dominate galaxy either by purging or conquest because you want to expand, imperial prerogative was very useful when I did my purifier run, basically just have the max numbers of planets under your direct control that you can micro-manage with people ever loyal and from there you build entire fleets to purge the galaxy.

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>>173474189
>>173474238
How much more powerful is +10% research speed compared to the science output of like 3 good planets?

Just wondering, I also don't really understand this whole ascension thing yet since I have like 10 hours in Stellaris and just bought Utopia

Doing really well this save, this is how it looks so far

>>173474047
>>173473678
Interstellar Dominion is the most useful to me.

>>173474549
Worth it with these borders? >>173474415

>>173474585
>with these borders?
You can't change your ascension perks later. Don't treat them as a quick fix for your current situation.

>make slave empire
>always feel bad about enslaving aliens
What's wrong with me

>>173474739
I wasn't saying it was a fix, just wondering how strong that would make me this early in the game as a xenophobe, militarist, authoritarian slave empire

>>173473702
Do you have Utopia? I was positive Martin said psionic tech was locked to spiritualists if you own Utopia

>>173474825
>militarist
What's the point, then? Just get new space by taking it.

Do I need the Xenophobe ethic to have migration controls for different species? I want to have worlds populated by one species only instead of having every world be a mishmash.

>>173474768
You are probably a WHITE MALE.

Imagine they are all robots and get on with it.

>>173474879
I do own utopia, but mind you I managed to grab psionics though.

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>>173474415
Welp Unbidden just ate my capital system. Actually kinda surprised I lost a Stellaris game of all things.

>tfw you manage to beat back two of their stacks with my shitty corvette spam fleets
>start pumping out the battleships with large guns
>already ate their way through five systems setting up a portals and shit
a-am I gonna make it still?

>>173474415
It's bad I still have 2 planets and the penalty is around 50% increased cost with 3 planets it would be close to 100% so double cost with mediocre science input from just 3 planets.

So short: double - tripe costs with just close to double science input vs normal cost with decent science input that is also boosted by 10%.


Early you just want to use your planet and all research stations around you - grab territory with the posts as much as possible.

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>>173474768
>tfw gave my slaves decent living standards

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>>173475026
Sorry for replying to a random post.

Maybe they'll take mercy on a fellow Shroud-dweller

>>173474980
you can always control if pops are allowed migrate. Might be an exception if youre fanatic egal or something.

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>>173475026
Probably not

Also:
>Losing to the Unbidden

>>173474415
Also asking anyone, will the Unbidden basically end me completely if I steal like 2 systems from them with border growth here?

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>>173475152
>Prethoryn doesn't contact biologically ascended empires to tell them they've made themselves tast absolutely delicious with all their gene modding
>AI rebellion doesn't offer synthetic ascended empires the chance to join them peacefully or perish

FUCK YOU WIZ

>>173475152
How do they respond?

>>173475350
FE* not unbidden jesus

>>173475350
They don't care much for systems, as the just build their Dimensional Anchors and steal them back.

Your best bet would be to rush in and destroy them DAs to get to the Dimensional Portal.

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>>173475432
The assholes just blow you off.

>>173475547
Why are they acting like fucking edgemasters all of a sudden? I bet they never even heard of it outside of their extraplanar animes.

>>173475547
>Okay
Seriously? That's the only reply they let you give?

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>>173475547
At-least I got to play with Psionics and shit. The shroud was neat for all about five seconds, guess I'll try robo-people now.

>>173475729
were you expecting the interdimensional horrors to have a secret tsundere romance path?

>>173476037
Were you not?

>>173456593
Psionic is nice because of the lore associated with it
Robots are strong as fuck

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>>173476123
i had hopes

>>173476294
I want that Chaos to crawl up to me.

>>173457232
Gene mod your entire species

>>173469252
The corvetes are there to act as meatshields. Removing them will decrease the survival rate of your cruisers and battleships.

At least that's what I've been told, I've never tried it. It would be nice to be proven wrong.

How good are Neutron Torpedoes compared to the Advanced Railgun level tech I'm at? (That's my furthest type)

>>173476623
Neutron torpedoes are better against the unbidden, but raillguns are better against everything else, and still very good against the unbidden.

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C'mon shroud, I need something good.

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>>173476806
At-least this is cooler than the average [Random Bonus]

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>>173476863

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Not exactly going to save me though.

>>173476863
Eavesdropping on the FEs is great. It gave me living metal tech and now I dont even need to scan their ships when I conquer them for the resource. Thank god it wasnt something useless like jump drives, sentient AI, or tachyon lance.

>Psionics demonstrably and objectively exist in the universe of Stellaris
>Is a scientific path and can be studied scientifically
>Science-based empires wont get it as they dismiss it as superstition for some reason
>Faith-based empires are better at scientific reasoning than the scientists
>Is implied to be somewhat genetic
>Can't genetically engineer my species to be psionic
wtf the fuck

>>173455434

How the fuck do you browse the mod archive for Stellaris?

Also is there updated white name and white humans mods?

>>173477093
>Cultist thinks his hoax is real

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> yfw Titans take over your space station

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>>173477093
Once again, robocucks and fleshfags were really left out event-flavor wise. There was so much that could have been done with both. I do hope it gets modded soon a la LEX.

>>173477093
Psionics really needs to be its own resource you either go for or dont, like Unity but Spirituality of your people. The more they believe the more power you have. Then you could have religious wars, trying to take over the Shroud by gaining more followers within your empire and within others. I agree it makes no sense how science and spirituality are so bound together, if anything science should grant ways to stop spirituality not enhance or be enhanced by it.

At least Stellaris has a lot of potential, hope Paradox keeps making more updates.

>>173477376
Now I kinda want to see how a Shroud mod made by the creators of LEX would be like and how hard it will fuck me

Is it worth using fighters or is it better to just use those slots for more kinetic artillery?

>>173477547
I was more thinking Shroud mechanical equivalents for synthetics and biologics.

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>>173477093
>Paradox wants to make playstyles unique and increase replayability
>Makes it so there are objective best routes to go down and others bad enough it's not even worth roleplaying as them
>Don't fix the things that drive people away and prevent replayability in the first place
This game still needs plenty of updates and mods to be decent. What's the most annoying is how the potential is there but nothing is being done about it yet.

>>173477610
Yeah, I know. It just seems like the kinda thing I'd expect from the person who gave us Arcadia and Vanth.

>>173477376
>robocucks and fleshfags were really left out event-flavor wise
Thats an understatement, the robot path is literally worthless

If you want pops who dont rebel, go hivemind

If you want good pops, go bio.

Literally no reason to do robots.

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>>173477481
>Stellaris Expantion XX: Mind vs Matter

For $10.90+tax

>>173477093
Its not

>Im a psionic
>yeah?
>I can totally tell what you're thinking man.
>See how good I'm killing its because I'm a psionic
>PSIONIC

>>173464856
>The mangas aren't better either.
Senpai you weren't reading the real manga adaptation. Someone tricked you into reading a doujin.

>>173477749
>Stellaris Religious Wars Expansion
>Stellaris War Expansion
>Stellaris Sectors Expansion
>Stellaris Diplomacy Expansion
>Stellaris Populations Expansion

Boy I dunno if I should drop the $360 on all the TW Warhammer expansions and DLC or the Stellaris ones

>>173477693
>>173477547
Maybe derived from ancient pre-ascended entities of both those paths that you discover artifacts of or serve directly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POYgUfr9XeI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGEjKoGHzO0

>>173477709
>Update named after Iain M Banks
>Still no love for robots

Does the shroud event chain have anything like subliming, at least? I always thought that would be a cool victory condition. Esp if AI empires would do it from time to time, allowing new races to colonize your old planets.

>>173477861
>Religion in space

I'll pass

>>173477918
Shroud exists figgit

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Isaac Awrthuwr hewre, would /civ4xg/ like mowre supewrstwructuwres like in my videos?

>>173477969
>Unbidden exist
>Mentions the Shroud is closer to them

The Shroud is just another dimensional being scrub

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How the fuck do I deal with the unbidden

>I can pump out enough ships to hold them back, but not enough to take out the portal
>whenever I jump to the portal system 3 100k power fleets jump in to intercept
>I can keep filling up a roughly 50k fleet that can beat one of their 100k fleets but it leaves my remaining ships at 50% hull and down ten thousand or so fleet strength, by the time I repair and refill the unbidden throw another 100k fleet at me

Should I just wait for some other empire to step in? Im currently colonising a place to fill with mining networks but my pops are all synths so it takes 30 months per pop.

>>173477481
Faith and spirituality just need to be reworked. Two spiritualistic empires believing in two entirely different faiths shouldn't like eachother. Faith shouldn't just lead to psionic stuff either.

Get rid of the flat spiritualist bonus and replace it with a tree of doctrines and values. Doctrines give pure bonuses(Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt work the fields for thine lord etc.), values give positives and negatives(Suffer not the xeno, all who die in battle for the lord shall be rewarded, those who don't shall be punished). Faiths with similar values and doctrines get alone, those with opposing ones do not. All who believe in the state faith shall show up as a faction, giving you influence. You can try to convert other populaces, if you succeed they will get a faction that represents your faith that will not be happy until their faith is dominant in the state. Events, a low governing ethics attraction and unrest can cause schisms which will then create faction representing the heretics.

>>173477093
I don't think materialist is necessarily the science based ethos.

>>173472908
>When you go to sleep and wake up it's the same thing - you just continue from the last save but the conscious awareness shits down at one point.
Someone doesn't know how the brain works.

It never, ever shuts down.

>>173478087
It quite obviously isn't just 'another' dimension because it taps into all dimensions everywhere

Its intangible, you cant physically move through or around it, you can only enter and leave it with your mind

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>>173455434
>just got the Unity update
>didn't look any improvements up to the UI or whatever, just jumped in cold
>start a materialist xenophile egalitarian human race
>end up having this Andaran mammal race join me after they peacefully split with their empire, complete bros
>Get some scientist who wants to look at The Messenger
>Decides to change his race to some precursor race he likes
>whateveryoudoyou.jpg
>fine with it, hope he doesn't take it farther
>fucker introduces a protovirus to turn all humans into this militaristic race
>I'm not pacifists, but have been far from warlike
>cut off the virus, but apparently not fast enough
>this is now Earth (I named it Terra for my custom humans)
>Pic Related

Fuck.

Is there a cookie cutter build to follow for having a strong fleet?

>>173478139
Technocracy requires materialist as does mechanist. Corporate 'we just love being worldly as fuck and having shit loads of money' requires egalitarian.

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heh the other two invaders weakened them enough for me to snipe some anchors.
Maybe I can salvage this save if they don't wipe out my remaining worlds.

What happens if your empire's ethics change after researching a technology that is specific to one ethic? Like can I still build Paradise Domes if my empire changes from Pacifist to Militaristic or do I lose that technology?

how is civilization 6? is it more fun than civ 5?

>>173478129
Its pretty obvious if Paradox wanted to expand religion they would make it so you start with one if your pick spiritualist in the race creation page. They would probably do a couple of 'default' ones and then let players design their own, and have each religion give bonuses. Then they could add in all sorts of things like religious wars, religious subterfuge, religious crusades and the like.

Not that they will do this before doing a diplomacy and warfare rework. There are core systems in Stellaris that need to be reworked first before they jump into the depth of stuff like religion.

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>>173478238
You know what to do

Upgraded my main species to synth and now I can't change their living standard it's grayed out wtf.

>>173478363
Its not as good as Civ V with all its expansions

And judging from the DLC shitshow, it wont ever be as good as Civ VI

>>173478238
Time to clean our homeworld. Here's some nice genocide music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dij5kYYfBEQ

>>173478646
>as good as Civ VI
*V

So... hang on. By the time I have unlocked the Science Nexus I have already completed each science tree. What is the point?

And why is there a resource that boosts physics research into super sayan levels but nothing for sociology or engineering?

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>embrace a faction, the happiness debuff never expires so all other factions permanently -10% happiness
>decades later, finally take rival's capital planet
>the military isolationists on the outer spiral demand I abandon the planet
>no hyperlane anywhere near ex-rival's capital
>our borders nowhere near each other and wouldn't touch for at least 50 more years
>have to abandon planet anyway because OVERWHELMING
>all pops -10% for humiliation

>many pops now effectively -20% for decades

>>173478816
There really needs to be like, another tech tree on top of the existing one for late game stuff.

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Just has things start to go better.

>>173479239
Actually there's a decent chance the awoken fallen empire will start to attack the Unbidden.

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>>173479239
F

Utopia feels like Paradox changed a few .ini files and added a couple models. Everything is out of whack now.

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aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAああああああああああああ

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would grabbing this help appease "stratified society" faction shitters?

If I wanted to pirate Stellaris and its DLC, where would I start?

Before you call me underaged, keep in mind that I've literally never pirated before. I've always bought my games, but Paradox DLC practices and price shenanigans have turned me the fuck off from this game. Also, if you pirate, can you still use mods from the Steam Workshop, or are you forever blocked from those?

>>173479993
You get it the same place as other Paradox games.

And you can still use it with Steam if you buy the game but pirate the DLC, but otherwise you're SoL.

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Just got an extra civ point
I want either nationalistic zeal or efficient bureaucracy, which one should I go with?

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Fallen Empire got eaten by the Unbidden. Was excited until I realised I got vassalized.

>>173479785
no

>>173478238
Letting the worm do its thing makes your species intelligent and your homestar becomes a black hole with a bunch of tomb worlds around it, you can also colonise tombworlds.

stellaris soundtrack blows
here's a real playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtF8y_C4qNg&list=PL7D3714705FE7676F

>>173478816
Lmao I've also noticed how my physics went very high.

Probably because of so many weapon upgrades on physics tree including the X tier stuff.

>>173480223
Why are you such an irrelevant cuck 200years in?

Stellaris question: does environmentalist ethic and conservation trait stack?

>>173480497
They should stack.

Fuck you for reminding me that Ethic&Government Rebuild ain't gonna be updated for Banks for a while.

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>>173480424
Unbidden spawned in the middle of my empire.

Got this from a shroud event, is it our salvation?

>>173480634
but it will now be easier to add more options with more civics

>>173479636
Don't forget how certain mods aren't even working right now. The least they can do is release a patch to fix this shit.

>>173480685
Yeah, once it finally gets updated shit will be pretty great but waiting's gonna suck, I got too used to that mod.

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>>173480634
>Ethic&Government Rebuild
Before I considered that to be a sort of slice of life mod, but now it feels mandatory
>Authoritarian actually good
>Individualist restored and egalitarian made into a separate ethic
>All the possibilities now because of civics
>Having all those different policies again
It's obviously going to take time, but I'm expecting something great.

>>173480910
Nice planet names.

>>173480910
>your fucking life ends thirty months from now

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>mfw the final part of the End Of The Cycle questline

>>173455729
Disappointment, should have pirated a 1.4< version since utopia is shit

>>173480952
I'm really interested in seeing how it will tackle hiveminds.
And hopefully won't ruin fanatical purifier government names. That shit is the good kind of cheesy.

>>173481052
How does that shit play out?

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>>173481052
Now where could my Loop be?

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>>173481239
http://i.imgur.com/rtd6S1z.png
>>173481359
WORMFIEEELLLD

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>>173481554
Well shit I know what kinda ascension I'm doing next.