/fhg/ For Honor General

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1st for Paladins

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2nd for cutest and best class.

>>173450098
I'll try to learn it, then. I already understand most of the theory behind the game, so learning a new control scheme should just take a week of training muscle memory.

>>173449948

That's some absolute bullshit. They fixed that rep 0 level 1 colors were locked but fucked something else up.

>>173450339
The issue I have had is that my thumb will sort of try and "seek" the X button when I am grabbed. Once you re-arrange your muscle memory it's a lot easier.

>>173450501

Peacekeeper.

>>173450501
Kensei

>>173450501
get law to rep 6

>>173450772
winrar, Ken sama it is

>>173450501
IWANTTOBEMAKINGFUCK!BERSEERRRKER!

>>173450530
Yeah, there are a few moves that are burned into my brain. Re-training myself will take time, but if it's worth it, I'll do it.

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No one replied last time so I'm posting again
How would you r8 these changes for Raider?
Not all of them would have to be implemented at the same time, but I'd like to know your guy's opinions of them.
>Stampede charge is now faster with better tracking, but Raider takes additional damage if he's hit while charging or after he whiffs for a short period of time
>Raider can superior block moves while sprinting, and can choose the direction of his Reaping Charge
>Grabs and forward throws guarantee side heavies, wallbash guarantees top heavy
>Basic Zone costs 1/4 stamina instead of 1/2, both Basic and Combo Zone get a half cost rebate when feinted
>Zone attack can now be feinted later in the animation
>Forward Wallbash now deals HP damage alongside stam damage
>foward throw onto ground now damages stamina more the longer you carry them
>Combo Zone is uninterruptable

femconq is very small in comparison to lawbringer

>>173451408
>zone attack can be feinted later in the animation
that would be so fucking stupid
his feints on it are fine already, really don't need to be cancelling it last second

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It's come to a point where I respect Peacekeepers more than Wardens

>Face a Warden
>He says Warden is countered by rolling backwards
>Tell him that is a half-truth because if I roll backwards, we reset to neutral, only I have less stamina now
>He just says "no" and "roll backwards" over and over with winky faces

Dunno what I expected from a Warden main. At least Warlords and Shugoki don't defend their bullshit.

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>>173450501
Centurion

>ledge someone in dominion
>wow!
>wow!
>wow!
>"blocked"

PKs are salt mines.

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>>173451089
I've tried to break my controller habit twice now, and I find myself getting frustrated and going back to it
I never feel like I have control over the moves I do with the KBM, like there's no weight to them and I can easily just switch to accidentally doing an attack from a direction I don't mean to
Feinting is throwing me off too because I bound my GB to a side mouse button and I naturally want to feint with the B button on a controller.

I hate this but I want to git gud

>>173452178
>at least warlords and shugoki don't defend their bullshit

yes, yes they do
i have yet to fight a warlord who wasn't hyper delusional and a shugoki who was a genuinely good person

just because wardens are scum, don't let them outshine everybody else's flaws lol

>>173450078
too bad he sucks

>>173451535
A fast player on PC can parry a Peacekeeper. Wardens SOLELY attack from safe, and if you're playing certain characters you have simply zero options to deal with that. The whole game reduces to a 50/50 guess, which would be fine if he got punished brutally for failure, but he doesn't. It's entirely safe. If he succeeds in the guess, he gets a free heavy or a double light. If he fails in the guess, he resets to neutral and can restart his guessing game. The only time this doesn't really "work" is Warden versus Warden, but even then.

>>173452178
Shugoki main here, I'll defend everything but the 50/50.
Maybe lessen the lock on range for GB so warden and shugo can't pull shit like that? That could have adverse affect on other characters though.

I hate when yourgetting ganked and it wont fucking lock onto the person you want

>>173452178
I just had a 10 minute argument with a Rep 13 Warden main and he said the exact same thing, I told him rolling away counters it but it costs half my stamina bar and he can just start his sequence over again except I have less stamina

When you have NO stamina you can't counter it at all

>>173451535
I spam vortex like a madman.
There is no way to take this game seriously, it's just straight up broken.

>>173452515
>Run out of stamina
>Try to dodge it
>Guess wrong
>Get thrown on the ground and eat a top heavy and some other stuff
>"THIS IS FINE YOU JUST NEED TO DODGE IT!"

>>173452178
I main Warden.
I lose my shit every time someone tries to roll away.
The only thing you can do is guess, and you better guess right.

>>173452420
Make it so Warden can't grab out of his shoulder charge. There, it's not balanced and Warden has a fine kit where every single time he charges his shoulder you have to guess and failure to guess correctly results in severe punishment.

>>173452834
That's good, but how would you fix shugoki? I'd say make his sprinting GB not be able to lock onto a mid -dodge hero so he has to pause and hit them on the recovery. That way they can counter guardbreak and the 50/50 is between knockdown and reset to neutral at no cost tot he victim.

>>173452515
>>173452178
Literally all they need to do is make it so he can't lunge forward 10m to GB you/ can't GB after he starts actually moving forward when you dodge backwards. If you dodge too early he can charge longer for the free heavy or if you side dodge he can gb you. Then it's not a guessing game it's something you can consciously avoid

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>>173449839
Thanks Steroid!
Ignore the shitcans throwing shade, you're the hero the general deserves.

>can't get shit out of a heavy parry with raider
I can't stand for this.

>>173454092
Raider is literally bottom tier. Worse than Kensei and Lawbringer now.

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Goki main here, and I will never try to defend the 50/50 or use it. I'd be perfectly happy with them heavily nerfing it, hopefully this comes along with defense meta changes so openers like that aren't needed. Until that time I'll just keep refusing to use it and bitch about how many Shugoki there are since it came about. Used to be low pick, but not anymore.

I might switch back to Zerk or Nobushi until it all dies down.

>whn your duel oppoenet gets so mad because he cant beat your shug he begs for death

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>>173451535

No respect for these vortex dudes
No respect whatsoever for 'em

>>173454092
you get GB zone on non assassins or bad assassins, GB carry throw on ground zone on anyone, and if there is a wall in a 5m radius you get a free heavy. pretty sure you get side heavy for parrying hybrids, ken and goki. If not then whatever, most characters cant punish heavy parries on them

What is the Shugoki 50/50? The charge?

>>173454406
It's gotten to the point where I absolutely despise fighting shugokis, because most of them abuse that 50/50 bullshit.

If I'm dueling, and the shugoki starts doing that, I'm leaving the match. It's not even that I can't deal with it, I just don't want to, it's not worth the stress.

>>173454584
he can charge or GB you

>>173454686
It's not fun to deal with because it's pure luck. Video games aren't meant to be gambling, they're meant to be reflexes and skill.

>>173454584
you can pretty much sprint spin on the spot as shugoki and get into the oni charge, or guardbreak.

If I parry Warden, PK, Orochi ZA, does it count as a light parry? Or is the recovery time is the same as heavy parry?

>>173455430
all zone attacks count as heavy which they should change, anyone with a 600ms or faster zone should be considered a light but thats just not the case.

>>173455430
ZAs count as heavies for everyone except PK. This is why Warden ZA is unsafe on block, he doesn't get the block stagger but instead goes into his own attack recovery which lasts longer.

>>173455430
don't bother parrying warden's zone, i think it's a heavy but you can block it for a free GB anyway

PK's was turned into a light recently, and i'm not sure about orochi's

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>>173454686
I side with you on this. I was firmly against leaving matches even if I was sure I would lose, but the 50/50 is total bullshit. If they start with that nonsense I'd back out too. Same goes for Raiders exploiting the unparryable bug.

>>173451408
>tracking
No tracking, but a larger hitbox. No speed buff.
>sprint-attacks
nah, he'd be too annoying to fight
>grabs and forward throws guarantee side heavies, wallbash guarantees top heavy
this should be a default for everyone.
>stam
Should be one or the other- either less stamina (and not that much) or a refund for feinting.
Honestly I'd rather get hyperarmor so you can use it to punish ganksquads, light-spammers, and other hyperarmor users, and keep it expensive.
>feinted later
eh, I don't want raider to turn into a lame kensei with >>>muh feinted unblockables
>hp+stam damage
I'd be ok with this, but it'd be a double-edged sword in elim. Which is fine by me.
>carrying = lost stam
no, makes no sense. Buff the forward->wall, not forward->miss
>combo-zone get hyperarmor
ya, as said earlier. I'd give it to neutral as well.

>>173455631
If Warden zone counted as a light it would be safe on block, which it currently isn't.

Just a daily note that console pk is bullshit.

>>173455631
>>173455682
I've gotten ad mortem off of parrying orochi zone, pretty sure it counts as a light, I did it multiple times and they never dodged or parried.

>>173456504
That just means the Orochi was retarded.

I wish there was a way to make unblockables have the normal indicator, it already has a noticeable enough audio and visual indicator.

>>173455965
I never said wardens zone is counted as a light.

>>173456504
He probably tried to parry you and failed.

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>>173454213

50/50

What? I am out of the loop

>>173456689
You said it should be changed to do so. Are you a Warden main?

>>173456717
Maybe he was going for deflect?

>>173456827
Sprint at enemy. They have to dodge the charge, which loses to a GB, or stand still to tech the GB, which loses to a charge.

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How do you do fellow non PK players? I think we should stop calling PK overpowered, after all it's our responsibility as good players to deal with a character that can reliably win by spamming light attacks

>>173457004
Why not poke instead?

>>173457153
Because Uninterruptible Stance.

>>173457153
>>173457285
Also parry.

>only playing against rep 5 players
>I'm barely level 15
How do this people level so fast?

>>173457661
The orders level you up crazy fast. It's really not hard to gain levels.

>>173457661
Doing orders and playing 4v4.

>>173456857
No and i think it should be unsafe on block still and give light parry counters when parried.

I think pks should be unsafe on block aswell.

>>173457979
>No and i think it should be unsafe on block still and give light parry counters when parried.
Can't have both.

Just ran into this group of four guys on ps4 who each have a different playing card as their emblem. Every one of them had 108 gear score, and were all high reputation. There was a Kensei who was rep 16. They were some of the worst players I've ever seen.

The kensei, no exaggeration, literally only did the side step dash move. Nothing else. Parry'd him every time, yet he would just keep doing it. The Orochi would do the storm rush from neutral with no mixup. The shugoki would just swing for the fences and get parry'd. The valk wasn't awful but was pretty basic and predictable. I was kind of scared at first because I thought maybe they were toying with us and were going to really turn on the sauce and fuck us up in a round or two as some kind of mind game. But they didn't, we beat them pretty easily.

I'm assuming they are all afk'ers because there's no way you can play a game for that long and be that bad at it. right?

>>173458153
>there's no way you can play a game for that long and be that bad at it. right?

Wrong. It is perfectly possible to just be a casual NEET with too much free time and no talent. Especially if you have friends to play with in a premade group - that way you can have fun without playing to win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7spVNFay4S4&feature=youtu.be

>>173458153
This right here explains why thus game is such a bitch to balance. The majority of people are such absolute dogshit that it's almost like they are playing an entirely different game than the high ranked players. Game actually seems kinda fair at the low levels, but you see the official win/lose plot of heroes for top rank and it's blood red.

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>tfw you start feeling bad about vortexing a kensei
I don't know anymore.

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>>173454686

>>173454686

I only use that if they are being really passive and wont attack, usually it's my hyperarmoring and punishing them through their attacks

>>173458153
>I'm assuming they are all afk'ers because there's no way you can play a game for that long and be that bad at it. right?
you sure as shit can. I mean, one of my friends, rep 12 raider, didn't even know how to parry until a few days ago. People don't play tutorials, they don't learn how to counter, even if they lose 10 times in a row they just keep doing the same things. Those guys have probably just played against a bunch of easy enemies, aka why most of them are one trick ponies.

>>173458454
>tfw you face a Rep 20 in genuine, fun, honorabu combat and get your shit pushed in as a Warlord

It was humbling in the best of ways. I learned a lot about how to not be a scrub.

>Go into a Lawbringer vs Lawbringer
>Neither of us can do anything
>Get bored and start Long Arming, knowing it will never hit
>Guy hits me a few times but the rounds last forever anyway
>Tell him I'm really not in the mood and quit

No point playing if this is how it's gonna be.

>>173458664
I mean shit, I normally just play against the AI myself, because I'm a lazy fuck. But whenever I've dabbled into pvp, most players are literally worse than level 2 bots. And I'm talking about rep 5+ people. They might parry once, but thats it.

>>173458664
>Tfw spent the first month of the games release too afraid of fucking up to even try parrying
Now I'm parrying nonstop

>>173458873
lb vs lb is pretty much tic-tac-toe
requires only a little practice and forethought and suddenly its an endless stalemate.

>>173458810
He didn't try do to dodge it even once.
I don't if he gave up or really didn't know what to do.

The only way out of a Wardens vortex is Alt F4

>>173459286
People think the poke on shove made things better, but it didn't. A good player can reliably block that on reaction or dodge it. It just creates this pointless shitfest where both players are feinting into feints into feints into feints and sometimes lights.

>>173459461
Yeah, basically. Get a Warden in duels and you're not playing Warden, just quit.

Will iSkys kill himself if Warden loses his vortex? Hes been playing Kensei and its painful to see him play it

>>173459306
At least with the valk vortex it's over in a few seconds. Can feel shitty sometimes but it's over quick

>>173459741
I watched him play and it was weird how many people he went against who just attacked from neutral. I have never faced a player over Rep 1 who did that, but he seems to get Rep 5+ Warlords who never headbutt.

>>173460337
If its Elimination, theres rep 20 Orochi's who don't feint and just mash light attacks, people who learn the game in 4v4 modes never truly get good

>>173459741
Warden players everywhere will absolutely shit themselves if they nerf his vortex. I'm so fucking sick of playing against Warden faggots who act like this shit is balanced
>Play against a high rep Warden
>Start beating him
>He spams nothing but shoulder now
>Even if I guess correctly it just sets up back to neutral
>Interrupt him with a light once
>He's now canceling his shoulder to counter my counter
>They then act like this isn't overpowered at all even though it's what every Warden relies on in a fight

Sadly I think one or more of the devs main Warden, it's why we haven't heard them say a goddamn thing about nerfing him yet

>>173460461
He was in Brawl when I watched him and was desperately defending Warden while playing Kensei in the most obnoxious way possible. You know, that mocking, effeminate thing young people do now?

>YOU KNOW I JUST LOVE IT
>HOW PEOPLE LIKE
>COMPLAIN ABOUT WARDEN
>IF YOU THINK HE'S OP
>HAHAHAHAHA (forced laugh)
>THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM BRUH
>I'M SORRY

That's how fucking women argue, but guys under 30 do it now too. They never provide a counter-argument, they just say "ur wrong lmao" and mock you.

>>173460461
>Playing elimination on console, revenge nerf hasn't hit yet
>Get matched against a rep 30 Roach
>At the beginning of every single round he just runs to stack buffs
>Only ever fights if he has backup
>Tie breaker round manage to kill everyone besides him
>He grabs the boots and just runs
>Only faces us when he has both attack and defense buffs
>Pops revenge instantly because his build is cancer
>Revenge+attack buff kills all three of us near instantly
>Immediately messages me talking shit like his gear didn't do the work for him

>>173460643
That type of arguing has gone mainstream. It's what people do to try to act right/superior when they can't actually provide any reasons
>Whole election cycle "Trump is a fucking racist"
>How?
>HAHA ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? WOW YOU'RE AN IDIOT IF YOU DON'T SEE IT
Half of our country ate that shit up

>>173460570
>He's now canceling his shoulder to counter my counter
Just counter his counter to your counter. A lot of Wardens will start feinting their shoulder into a top light if they see you poke them out of the shoulder a lot, which is a free parry if you expect it.

t. Orochi main waiting for us to get more than 2 usable moves

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What Feats will Centurion and Ninja get? I'm not autismo enough to come up with all of them, but Centurion has to get a Pilum, and Ninja needs to get the Kunai or a variant thereof, and PK's stealth feat or a variant thereof.

>>173460980
From the leak screenshots, Centurion has been seen with generic Knight/Vanguard feats, whereas the Ninja has been seen with generic Samurai/Assassin feats, notably the PK's Stealth feat.

>>173461102
Their placeholders, apparently.

>>173460973
And then he counters my counter to his counter.

Seriously though, fighting a "good" warden is just so fucking annoying. The entire fight is reduced down to a guessing game

>everyones playing zerker
>my raider literally can't parry zerker
>just blocks every single time
>doesn't even register the heavy input
>no way to win vs zerker as raider

NICU NICU VERY NICU UBI-CHAN

>>173461194
I know it's not a punish, but roll away

>>173460980
All the bomb feats one level earlier than the other classes except for catapult which is his level 4 feat

>>173461260
You can parry Zerker if you use keyboard and mouse while playing Raider/Lawbringer. Seriously, it makes it fucking trivial. If you are using keyboard and mouse and can't parry, then I dunno.

They should make it so you can't get any other buffs once you get the speed buff.

Especially seeing as how sometimes your opponent spawns closer to it than you, giving you no chance at all if they decide to go for it.

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That's it. I am quitting. I just can't get any fun out of this game anymore. My skills just aren't enough and my hands are probably retarded or something. And the people playing this game are the worst i have ever encountered in any game(at least those who use chat) Jesus even CS is more civil than this. Maybe i just clean the house for fun now.

>>173460570
who do you play? a lot of characters have their own way of dealing with warden besides lights

>>173461263
Rolling away actively hurts me though because I'm down half my stamina, and he's sure as shit not gonna give me the chance to regen it

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> Join any game mode
> Warden on the other team
> Leave game

Tell me I'm not the only one who does this

>>173461452
I dunno, I have had middling returns with the community. Sometimes you have people compliment and give you advice, then other times you face Wardens.

>>173461807
This.
Though peaceshitters & nobus get a dishonorable mention.

>>173462054
Weirdly I haven't seen a Peacekeeper in days. Nobushi players are sometimes edgy anime guys who do the role play walk, but mostly they're just silent.

>>173461678
No, but you should stop being such a bitch. Would be healthier for you.

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>>173461102
Those are placeholders.
I've seen some people go full autismo and come up with 12 feat ideas for each one and I want to see it some more.

>rep 14 peacekeeper
>spams lights and feints
>cant do anything vs him
>he swaps to lawbringer
>3-0 him

god fuck peacekeeper

>>173461807
Hey!
I'm a Warden and help people out.

How do centurions even fit in all this lmao

>>173461669
I know it's not easy, but Warden can NOT Shoulder Bash from neutral. GB his dash or parry his top light (still easier than parrying a PK zone)

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fast character = win the game

>>173462212
By playing Warden you are undoing that help.

>>173462243
They fit in because fuck you, Rome is cool.

>>173462292
Well, I only spam vortex if the other guy is a dick or is full os salt.
Taking this game serious is bullshit anyways.

>>173462243
The same way japanese warriors fit in with european raiders and soldiers. It just does.

>>173462212
Do you have simple gear or do you take pride in applying every bell & whistle you can?
I've found the gaudy wardens tend to be the assholes.

>>173462419
I've the default armor.
I only play 1v1 or 2v2.

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>>173462243

>He didn't check the deepest lore while playing SP
Centurions were literally the origin of the Blackstone Legion mindset. Everyone believed they all vanished during whatever the fuck happened to the world, but they didn't. At least not all of them.

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>>173462243

Its cool

>Playing dominion
>Enemy team has two people camping a point, a Shug and Nobushi
>Can't take them myself, target the Nobushi and I get baseball hit/hugged
>Target the Shug and I'm getting nonstop bled and kicked
>Ask for help taking the point from them
>"Lmao just let them have that one"
>Meanwhile my team can't hold the other two points even with two enemies camping the one they're "letting" them have
Dominion might actually be fun if my team wasn't ALWAYS made of fucking retards and the enemies were a premade squad who knows exactly how to play

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rlly makes you think

>>173462908

Are you that guy who shits on his own team even before the match starts?

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>>173463101
>INTENSITY, EMOTION, SPEED AND ACTION

None of these words except "speed" actually mean anything, and it's not like anyone got slowed down.

>>173463101

hes right too be honest

>>173462592
Iron legion mindset, Apollyon and Asmodai came up with the Blackstone legion mindset.

>>173462857
They better have the lorica segmentata as a gearset

>>173463126
No, I'm the guy who shits on his team when during the match I see I'm literally the only one capping points and the others are treating dominion like TDM

Im goinmg to learn peacekeeper next :D

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>>173463572
There's no way they won't. It might probably have a lot of liberties taken with its design though, like the Lorica Musculata in the leak screenshot.

Might possibly have Lorica Hamata and Lorica Squamata too to round out the four base armor looks.

>>173463849
I hope you choke on it.

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>tfw suck dick against valk
It's entirely my fault for not getting good but I still die a little every time I see one.

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Almost 28, might hit 30 before the patch hits consoles.

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>>173464220
Once you get shoulder bashed, you've got a few options. If you see she goes for the sweep, dodge left or right and then guard break. If she doesn't go for the sweep, just stand your ground. Just block her lights to break her combo, or counter gb if she goes for the gb. Rolling away is your panic button and pretty much stops her combo no matter what.

>>173465104
Also to be clear, don't preemptively dodge just because you think she's gonna go for a sweep. Only dodge if she is definitely trying to sweep. Part of her 50/50 is GBing instead of the sweep so that she can catch people who preemptively dodge the sweep.

>Playing against a Conqueror
>Beating him
>He "accidentally" ledges me
>Whatever
>Beat him two rounds in a row
>We get back to the first section he ledged me on
>He ledges me again, without an apology this time
>Next round
>He consciously tries to ledge me multiple times, not even trying to hide it
>Beat him easily after realising what a little turd he is being

I understand being frustrated that you are losing, but if you are gonna do that, don't pretend like it was an accident so you can "bait" your opponent into an easy win. It's fucking pitiful.

>fight a rep 1 Kensei with my level 3 Conq
>have a nice fight without anything cheap
>win
>they quit right after

I feel bad.

>>173465104
>webm
lost hard

>fight warden with valk
>he complains she has 1 move
>fight him with shug
>complains he only has one move
>"i hate people like you"
>leaves

fucking shitters, I might stop calling my self a warden main, Im a shug main now bois

oh a and yes vortex is OP

t. rep 3 warden

>>173464578
That's hell...

>>173465276
>>173465104
thanks for the advice!

>>173464578
Shit I gotta do this the next time I get a 4 man going

>>173450101
there really isnt enough art of the characters, erotic or otherwise

and yeah nobs pretty cute. I imagine PKs prolly cute too.

I hate you Shugoki you stupid fat fuck even when your on my team your shitfuck charge knocks me over in the middle of a fight goddamn I hate him so much.

I'd rather get ledged by a Warlord 3 rounds straight then see a Shug on my team.

>>173466124

Game isn't alive or popular enough for anyone to make any art of it.

>>173466201
>Playing elimination
>It's 3v1, we have a Shug on our team
>Instead of bear hugging he's just non fucking stop charging everyone down to the ground
>He doesn't even follow up, just backs off and charges again
>What should have been a simple fight got dragged on for fucking ever because he wouldn't let anyone fight

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What did he mean by this?
I top lighted him cause he had side guard, then I dash attacked him and followed with top unblockable. then he unlocked and the rest is history.

>Join match of Dominion with my rep 0 raider
> Rep 6 zerker gold gearscore on opposite team
> Light spams me to death maybe four times in a row due to revenge/stamina reduction gear
> Sends tauntmail after the match

Why is this community so retarded?

>>173466598
Probably lagging out.

>Give cat herb horn
>Never uses it
>Give cat ultrasonic horn
>Pretty much exclusively uses it, healing even less often
>Take the apceros 2+ minutes to leave anyways
Why can't cats have sensible or customizable AI?

>>173467063
dunno dude

>>173467063
wrong general?

>>173462857
While I can see the Ninja being an assassin, does any feel like the Centurion may be a hybrid character?

>>173467117
>>173467123
Wrong general, yeah.

This patch is so fucking bad.
>buff Lawbringer, Kensei, and Berserker
>did nothing to Kensei and Zerk and made Lawbringer even more of a shitter magnet
>nerfed Warlord and Peacekeeper negligibly, they're still fucking ridiculous
>gutted revenge completely, getting ganked is a death sentence
BUT GUYS THERE'S SOME NEW EXECUTIONS COMING, THE GAME IS SAVED LOL

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REEEE WHEN THE FUCK IS THE PATCH HITTING CONSOLE
GAME IF FUCKING UNPLAYABLE

>>173466647
Fighting games and games about intense 1v1 battles inspire this kind of behaviour. Shit talking is a human instinct, basically.

>>173467383
As opposed to before, when your enemy popping revenge every other hit was a death sentence?
If you have a problem with ganking, I'll give you the advice that given to those whining about revenge - just run away. Don't whine that you can't win a 1v2 by pressing a magic button.

>>173467545
Revenge was broken before, but getting rid of super armor was fucking stupid, but seperating attack in revenge and attack out of revenge was fine.

>>173467704
Proposal: Change revenge so that it becomes a purely defensive ability. Keep the increased health, but decrease that damage output. Make all parry windows 2x as long and increase the GB tech window as well. Remove infinite stamina, but disable knockdowns if exhausted.

>>173467383
I just want better fucking matchmaking. I'm on console and we don't even have the Lawbringer buff yet and I'm CONSTANTLY carrying elimination games as a goddamn Lawbringer. There needs to be some fucking form of skill based matchmaking, because I'm constantly getting retards on my team who go 5 fucking rounds without ever getting a single fucking kill.

>have a contract for skirmish
>decide to try raider again
>grand total of 3 kills weren't taken by a teammate

Wew, didn't realize how bad you guys had it.

>>173467704
Wait, the revenge nerf gets rid of super armor during revenge? Oh boy can't wait for that to hit console so I can literally never get a kill against a good gank squad again

>>173467794
So it just extends your life and does nothing else? Revenge should just be a super move instead.

Is using a full set of armor less fashionable than mixing it up?

>>173468020
Okay, so make it a timed thing that can be activated maybe twice per match.

>>173468020
Maybe something like
>Revenge is now a one-off sweeping unparryable
That could work, it could also end up being hilariously OP on longer range characters

>>173468003
>>173468020

The title "revenge" is a bit misleading, their definitely turning into a retreat mechanic, instead of an anti-gank mechanic. Fine in Dom/Skirmish, iffy when it comes to elimination.

On another note, what do you guys use for Valk finishers in 4v4? I noticed never land a heavy from neutral finisher, always a light or a top heavy after spear sweep that doesn't give me the execution.

>>173468146
Actually not too bad of an idea. The whole point would be to sweep everyone down so you can finish off low people or make a break for it.

>>173468294

guardbreak and heavy

>>173468294
Guard break instead of sweep. Heavy attack. Or if they do get sweeped and have low health, dash up to them and guard break them right as they're getting up. Often they don't expect it and you get the GB.

>>173468054
I like the zelos helmet but the chest has spikes on it.

Depends on the set i guess.

I really hope they increase the inventory space when they introduce new sets.

>>173468146
>conq's zone now actually means something

>>173468054
I tend to mix it up my self, for example I don't like any of the shoulders for conq except for Hoedus/Domaric and Regulus/Cassios due to clipping and how wide the others make him look, and when I played berserker I avoided the Mizar arms since they didn't have chainmail sleeves anyways and I didn't like having a tattoo on the manica instead of her arm

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Orochi mains not even once

>Playing elimination
>It's a tough fucking game, I'm carrying the team hard
>Manage to get us two wins by nonstop reviving teammates
>Final round all my teammates were executed
>Do my best but can't win against 4 people
>Look at the score
>One of my teammates went 0-9
WHY THE FUCK AM I GETTING PAIRED WITH PEOPLE SO FUCKING SHITTY THEY CAN'T GET A SINGLE KILL? I PICK YOU UP FUCKING 5 TIMES AND YOU CAN'T GET A SINGLE FUCKING KILL?

>>173469091
Cry quietly.

>>173469091
>playing a 4v4 mode
found the problem

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>>173460980
I came up with 12 for the Ninja a while back, but the thread devolved into shitposts. I imagine it will mainly be existing Sammy feats and maybe 3-4 new ones or altered old ones.

>mfw trying to kill 8 people in dominion without dying

this is literally fucking impossible.

>>173469636
Does vs AI count? There's only one icon now.

>>173469286
He's definitely going to have Sharpen Blades.

>>173469636
>stand on point
>kill people who come to cap the point one by one and heal up after

Wow!

>anon got the get and is making me rep 3 kensei
>not even to rep 0 lvl 10 yet
>bored out of my mind
He's just so average, he's not good, he's not bad, he's just boring.
>enemy is shit and cant block things
nice
>enemy is average but makes the mistake of attacking
fine
>enemy does nothing and doesn't fall for any tricks
cancer

but I guess that's true for everyone

>>173469935
>stand on point
>3 motherfuckers jump me at once

>>173469636
Do it against AI.

>>173469830
>Tfw sharpen blades will never get nerfed
Easily one of the most broken feats, and definitely the most broken if you stack it with fear itself

>>173470187
>>173469717
did they change that? I noticed it doesn't specify anymore.

>>173470070
>play against AI
>stand on point C or either point A or B if it's the Shard map
>problem solved

>>173470275
Yeah

>>173470307
oh...

well fuck me, why am I doing this the hard way?

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>Don't even have to play it to win things
They're trying hard to get that dopamine out of me.

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>>173469636
>Teammates keep trying to 2v1 with me even when I spam I Got This and say in chat i'm getting the order done
I usually end games with more than 10 takedowns even if we hold all 3 zones the entire game

pic related, my fucking teammates

> Play Raider
> Start having fun

Is it really this easy, /fhg/?

>Story is about the world fucking falling apart
>Not a single level or mode where new parts of the map appear, disappear and reappear at random

Wasted po tential!

>>173460980
>Centurion
Tier 1 - Sanguis Imperatoria: When health drops below 50%, gain a boost to attack and defense.
Tier 2 - Scutum Deorim: Send a prayer to the gods and recieve a blessing that gives superior block against all attacks for a short time.
Tier 3 - Honore Praetoris: The mere presence of your leadership increases the damage done and decreases the damage taken by your allies.
Tier 4 - Virus Legonius: Call forth an elite Legion of Rome. In Dominion they will automatically spawn and rush to the middle point. In Elimation or Skirmish, they will spread out and seek out the user and assist them. Their superior tactics and discipline will beat nearly any standard soldier, however against an overwhelming force they will only defend until a leader appears.

>>173470808
Not really, and the level where Asmodai kills the catapult crews on the frozen river has what you want.

>>173470775
It's even worse having teammates steal kills in elimination
>Fighting my guy, doing fine, no where near in danger or needing help
>Teammate runs over to "help"
>He waits until I'm about to execute and steals the kill by spamming lights
>Then he doesn't even babysit the body he fucking left
This shit infuriates me. If you're gonna steal my kill then fucking execute holy shit

>enemy holds B
>they have an Assassin there
>he does literally nothing but spam backdashes if I lock onto him
>starts GBing and lighting me if I try to kill minions
>this stalemate continues until he gets backup and I die to the gank

What do you even do in this situation? A and C were both contested already. Can we make dashes consume stamina yet?

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Which one of you is this?

>>173471283
> Railing a dude in Dominion
> Friendly Raider comes out of fucking nowhere, charges the dude and knocks me over
> Stand by and watch as guy pops revenge and shits all over raider ally

>>173471778
>Fighting a Warlord as Lawbringer in Dominion
>Having some trouble
>Suddenly another Lawbringer comes over
>Long Arms him
>Over and over again
>Runs out of stamina
>I start to long arm the Warlord while the other Lawbringer emote spams
>Warlord quits after falling off a cliff during this whole incident

I HATE 4v4, but sometimes there's a lot of fun.

>it's a "Raider player thinks he's using a character that does zero damage and has no range" episode

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>>173471929
>random group all play LB, from rep 4 to like 10
>last guy left
>we surround him keep shoving him
>he keeps popping revenge non stop but he can't do shit with it
>finally quits after about 2 minutes
law = delivered

>>173472012
>It's a raider turtles and gets a free unblockable off of parries, but insists he's underpowered
Any character becomes OP if you turtle

>>173472012
>it's a "people play with randoms and expect them to be able to think" episode

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PSA for all Valks: If another Valk salutes you and you do not return the favor, it hurts their feelings and brings you very bad luck. Arm yourselves with knowledge

>>173472391
>opens with gb
they would have been shit on regardless of luck or feelings

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>Warden can still cancel his shoulder bash into GB
>His zone is still beyblade-tier fast

>>173452345
if kbm is that much agony, like it is for me, just practice more with controller

How do you counter Warlord headbutt and GB spam

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NEW ORNAMENTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7spVNFay4S4

>>173472804
At least if you block his zone, he gets massively punished. Compared to his unpunishable charge, the zone is fine.

>>173473168
Unless you use claw grip, you'll never be as strong as someone who got good with a keyboard and mouse. Parrying is a fucking joke with a mouse.

>>173473243
Mostly, you don't.

>>173469830
Yeah it is a universal Ass class trait. They should nerf it though somehow.

Feats:
Tier 1: Bounty Hunter (all ass class), Stealth (PK scum), Kiai (Roachi)
Tier 2: Smokebomb, revenge attacks, kunai (same as Roachi tier 2)
Tier 3: sharpen blade (ass class), slip through (Roachi dodge attack boost), idk something new
Tier 4: nailbomb or something like it(seems appropriate), fear itself(standard), something else new

For the kunai, make it unique, paralytic bo shuriken. Does less damage if any but nukes stamina and severely reduces movement for a short period, like the bear trap but you can still move a little and tech GBs or block/parry.

For the third tier something active maybe caltrops. Place them on the ground and they cause minor bleeding, speed reduction, and some stamina burn when people pass over them. Make it either fade after time unlike other traps or at least work more than once before going away. They can kinda glint on the ground, so placing them in water puddles or some such would help conceal them and add a layer of strategy to placement.

For the tier 4, maybe make the nailbomb a poison bomb like from the campaign, also make the Nobushi fire trap not suck total ass. For the last one maybe something active like Kensei's all unblockable or Shugoki Knockdown...not those but something like it, maybe increase the range of standard attacks for a period.

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>Impaling Riposte is guaranteed after a parry
>Except against Orochis
>Also Orochis can now block attacks that land on them while they're themselves about to attack

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>>173473296
>Ranked ornaments

Ranked rewards?

Also, we need fem warlord

>spent 100 hours playing on controller
>love game
>everyone gets gud
>parrying my lights on reaction
>defense meta becomes the norm
>cant even play
>try mouse and key
>hate every minute of it
>win every duel i play though because the ability to speed parry is just easy as fuck
>now I hate the game even more because it isnt fun at all
haha epic

and also nice xDDD

seriously if you prefer M&K you just arent human this is awful in For Honor. And I usually prefer M&K.

>>173473947
I think fem of every class would be an improvement, especially for valkyrie it makes no sense that it's a male.

>>173474121
>>173473947
>tfw no thicc femshugo

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>playing nerfed Conq
>actually having a lot of fun

Definitely not a top tier character but enjoyable, and I really like the look.

>>173470808
Story is about warring factions in a world that fell (past tense) apart. The cataclysm is not ongoing when the story is set, you are just seeing the aftermath of what happened centuries ago.

>>173465104
I hate that valk helmet. It makes her eyes look like assholes.

>elim
>game lasts 5 rounds, 2 of them by running out of time
>PK with 108 gearscore and sharpened blades running around with speed boost
>our team just in the middle of the map just dancing and waiting for the time to run out while the PK runs from boost to boost continuously
>every time she tries to revenge us I just valk sheild bash her until she gives up and starts running around again, and we continue dancing

>>173473296

Warden is never getting Daubenys wings is he?

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>>173473972
The only thing that makes me want to get used to M&K is counter-guard break. On a controller, you have to choose between being fast with guards or being fast with grabbing, but not both at the same time. If the game let me rebind controller binds I'd put it on the left-stick button. People using external software to macro or force re-bind get auto banned because anticheat picks up the intercepts.

>>173475560
right-stick* fuck

>>173474229
>femshugo is actually thicc and isn't a huge fat fuck that tards would want her to be

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>>173467063
>he doesn't just play as his Palico

>>173475809

What would a male Peacekeeper be like?

>>173475910
nonexistent, i hope

>>173475910
A twink or a trap.

>>173475938

kek

>>173475878
Because beast cat was a huge letdown and boomerang spam is boring.

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>>173475910

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>>173475980

N i c e

>>173476138
The real question is, what would male valkyrie be like and would they rename the class?

>>173476138
I need someone to help me on a story mission, 1.6... the presumable last viking keeps bashing my fucking skull in

PC> ign deSoap

>>173475938
this
because of
>>173475980

>>173476260
You mean the Warlord who sends the wolves at you and has three phases? Are you playing on realistic?

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>>173476619
Im reporting you to the feds.. u lil bitch

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>>173475410

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>>173473296

I want these antlers badly

>>173469091
Instead of queing with randoms, how about playing yor your frie-... oh.

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>>173477304
>not wanting a full deer's head on your head

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>>173472804
Idea: what if Warden can GB from bash BUT it costs half his stamina AND a 2 second delay on regen.

>Get a 9 kill streak in dominion vs AI
>Complete invader order
>But not kill streak order
???

Consolefag here. Please tell me Warlord's hyperarmor gets fixed in this fucking patch

>>173478386
Now he turtles even harder.

>>173471367
Just use locked on attacks ti kill minions and combo the pk if he gets close.

>>173471189
>Tier 4 - Virus Legonius: Call forth an elite Legion of Rome. In Dominion they will automatically spawn and rush to the middle point. In Elimation or Skirmish, they will spread out and seek out the user and assist them. Their superior tactics and discipline will beat nearly any standard soldier, however against an overwhelming force they will only defend until a leader appears.

Hell, just make it so that it summons 2 elite shield captains to your side that stick as close to you as they can. By elite, I mean that they're shield captains, but with Hero AI and slightly buffed stats.

>>173478127
>>173477304
>weebs
>rednecks
>combination of the two
disgusting

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>tfw the entire enemy team picks Shugoki

>>173478850

>muh weebs

Nice meme broski

>>173478550
I love to aim the minion killing animations into people. Shugoki does a three swing heavy chain when killing minions, if you lock to someone mid swing you can often land a hit or two. It's great when they think you aren't paying attention.

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>>173478880
>tfw kazerad posts there's an update coming after over a year saying "this month"
I have doubts

>revenge no longer gives super armor
so now it's near impossible to hold my own against two plus people, got it
great idea ubi

>>173480137
Did they remove the revenge activation auto-parry too? It never seems to happen anymore, people just hit me anyway and interrupt my sword-raising animation.

>>173478419
Whats wrong with it?

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Rate my dudes

Not sure where to go with the raider, waiting to see how the legendary weapon looks, I have all but the axehead.

Either that or I will get the new burd ornament, a non-gold helm and get a simple looking axe.

>finally get LEGENDARY to rep 3
>spend ~10000 on gear packs in a mad search for a good pommel
>don't get one

END MY LIFE SENPAI

Redpill me, is conq shit now?

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>>173480646
im rep 5 with raider and my axe still looks like shit.

You might be waiting for a while.

>>173480847
the depression is setting in
i got 2 of the special golden axe heads

>>173480919
I wish I could trade you, because I just need the axehead for the * weapon and I have gotten 2 shafts and 3 pommels.

>>173473361
>At least if you block his zone, he gets massively punished. Compared to his unpunishable charge, the zone is fine.
Wait, how can i punish it as law?

>>173481284
Gb unless it is at max range.

>>173480645
The axe head on the legendary Raider weapon is fucking hideous.

>>173480919
You have to time it just right.
After the block, wait a tiny second before the gb, in order to avoid activating the shove instead.

>>173478880
>>173464578

>>173480670
competitively, yes. Against your average pub, nah.

>enemy is called the_shrekening
>bet it's a goki
>it is
>he doesn't charge meme
>instead plays passive
>make the mistake of playing the game the first 2 rounds
>come back and win by out passivizing
Remember kids, the only winning move is not to play.

So what seems to be the least played class overall so far? Not necessarily worst, just least common to see in a match.

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delete rice peasant

>>173481806
In duels, aka all I play, I see the least Nobushis. but pretty much all the non top tiers/non flavor of the week are played about the same it seems

/fhg/ help me choose a new hero. I already main lawbringer and I lost interest in Conq.

>>173481896
Been seeing a lot of low level Nobushi players now that her hidden stance is better. Lately I haven't seen many Peacekeepers, but Kensei was probably the least played before.

>>173481806
Hard to say. If there's one positive thing to say about this game, it's that you see a wide spread of characters.

Unless you exclusively play Duel, maybe. Then maybe Nobushi or something.

>>173482037
I'm a Nobushi main, and I rarely see others. That said, I see a shitload of wardens and LBs now, then kensei

>>173482001
I'd say Kensei, but he's kinda dull. Try Berzerker.

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>>173482001
Warden

>>173482415
>new emote
>old boost spawn time
Console?

>>173482504
yup, cant wait.

So are you still considered a faggot if you play Warlord, Conq, and or PK?

>>173482504
new emotes are available on pc too, just saw them in the store a little bit ago

>>173482974
ah wait, just got what you meant, never mind

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Fresh Warden ragequit, and on the very first round

botched all his parries on my side lights, missed a shoulder bash, then got thrown when exhausted after missing another bash

>>173482965
>warlord or PK

yes, also valk

>Fighting a Raider as Lawbringer
>Hold my guard to the right or left
>He tries to get the light stun
>Parry it instantly into Blind Justice

Every fucking time. Also works on Orochi and Nobushi after a kick miss. They always go for a top light.

>>173482965
Warlord is strong but no longer as much of a twat and conq can now be punished.
I'd say the fag heros right now are PK and Warden. Maybe shugoki if you abuse the charge 50/50.

>>173483506
Valk is much easier to counter than anyone else, though. You can dodge her sweep and get a free GB out of it. What makes PK, Warden, Warlord and Conqueror so obnoxious is how safe they are.

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>tfw a warden leaves a mathc before you can thank him for not vortexing
He was a true knight
A true warrior

>>173484001
It's so rare to see people stick around after a duel, even a good one. I don't get it, it just means waiting in the queue even longer

>>173484567
I don't want to let my opponent learn my fighting style and start countering me specifically.

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>>173484787
So learn theirs faster and git the fuck gud

>>173484567
Actually i find that people tend to take a stupidly long time to ready up again and it actually only takes a couple seconds usually to find another game

>>173452397
>>173452523
>>173454407
>>173451535
Dodge attack lmao, he misses his shoulder bash he gets hit, he goes for the gb and he still gets hit. Hit him in his windup with a light. I think kensei can block his followup double side light, I've seen it happen a few times but it's kind of hit or miss, I've warlord do it too.

>>173485468
>Dodge attack
Now he cancels for an easy parry.

>>173485884
Not on the first one (unless it's a lucky guess) because human reaction time is limited. And then you can start mindgaming him.

>>173485468
this >>173485884
I've gotten parried both dodge attacking and lighting him while he charges. and waiting longer to dodge attack isnt really an option, he can cancel pretty late

>>173485949
well it takes more than one dodge attack to kill a warden

Any idea when the patch drops on the consoles ? I can't wait for some sweet Lawbringer buffs, although the changes to what we can do after a parry will change how the character is played if you ask me, that's how much they alter his abilities.

>>173484567
I want to see other people.
After our game, win or lose, "gg" I leave.
If we get matched again that's ok, but I pretty much never choose to fight the same person twice.

>>173462165
replying to a 6 hour old post but, does anyone know the source on the webm?

>>173487674
HBO's Rome, a really good TV series.

>>173485884
He can't cancel into parry once he starts moving.
>>173486043
Wait till he moves, if he moves he can't cancel into parry.
If all else fails do a stutter feint.
>instant feint twice
>third time hit him with a heavy or a light
They fall for it everytime.
(heavy is not guaranteed, light is)

>>173487739
thanks

>>173450101
doesnt even look asian

>Playing elimination
>Finish off my guy, go help a teammate with his
>Teammate across the map signals for a revive
>Go for him as soon as he signals
>About to turn the corner to get his body
>He quits
Why are shitters who die early so fucking impatient? I get quitting if no one was going for the revive, but I was almost there

>>173490853
>go help a teammate with his

N O H O N O R
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>>173492059
>Honor in 4v4
Fuck off

>>173492128
No honnor noob cyka blyat

>>173492230
I can't tell if this is satirical or not

>>173485468
>Dodge attack lmao
Don't have one
What now

>1.05
>Warlord headbutt (linkable to light) got nerfed
>Conqueror shield bash (linkable to a light, heavy on wall) got nerfed
>Warden shoulder charge (linkable to double light which is top non-wall damage, cancelable to GB) did NOT get nerfed

What did they mean by this?

>>173493985

>Shield bash
>Nerfed
More like rendered motherfucking useless

>>173494095
Its useless against everyone except me because i play LB and i still dont get get a punish.

Id feel bad for conq players if he wasnt so awful to fight against.

>Superior block means you cant pressure at all, heavys are auto parried and he doenst have to parry so no reason to ever open yourself up

I get that this is literally ALL he can do now is just sit there and block but man is it boring to fight.

He needs a bigger tool kit and some decent normals so he can defend without being a turtle and attack without relying on flicker bugs.

>>173494687

Your Shove into Sometimes-For-Some-Reason-Guaranteed light is a punish tho

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Post em.

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About to go to bed
See this
Fucking kill me

MALE NOBUSHI WHEN

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>>173495136
I did not expect this little irondad thingy to become popular. I'm sorry.

t. drawfag

What's the highest fov you can play on without getting weird visual effects?

>>173473947
cute

>>173496137
Yeah, for some reason switching from left to top guard takes longer than switching from right to top.

>>173480645
nice

but orochi moth head looks terrible in motion