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>Event: GUDAGUDA Part II
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20170405.php
Period: 5-19 April 2017
>Welfare 4* ChaCha (Berserker) + Limited 5* Hijikata (Berserker)
>CE
- Nobu 5*: Buster cards +15% NP Damage +15%/Koban coin drops +1
- Two Guda 4*:NP gain +15% Reduces damage by 300/Gold Dust drops +1
- Snek 3*:Arts and Quick cards +4%/Eiraku Tsuuhou drops +1
- Chacha 5*:+15% Critical Damage +15% Star Generation Starts at 25% NP/Shinsengumi/Oda Pt. Drops +30%
- Shinsengumi 5*:Quick & Buster cards + 8% Gain 3 stars every turn /raise the ATK of all allies by +50%

>Rate up
- Hijikata Toshizou 5-19 April, EXCEPT on the 13th
- Nikola Tesla 13-14 April
- Thomas Edison, Helena Blavatsky, and Medea 5-19 April

>News
- Latest changes http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php
- http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/maiji_r7c6d/
- CCC collab coming at some point much later

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Farming Guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_SlTjrVRTgHgfS7sRqx4CeJMqlz687HdSlYqiW-JvQA/htmlview?sle=true#

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/RA8Px5jz

>FL Spreadsheet (last reset: Dec.7)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Materials, experience and event AP simulators
http://fgosimulator.webcrow.jp/

>Alternate Servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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CHACHA
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>>173448462
first for medea
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Breeding.
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>>173448562
PLEASES
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I want to bully this idiot.
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I love my waifu!
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GREATEST LOVE STORY EVER TOLD
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>>173448674
Best waifu
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Sita when?
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>>173448920
Indeed.
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I NEED to fuck Chacha.
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>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=62303797
Can this madman be stopped?
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>>173449035
She's too late. Her husbando has already become my property in her absence.
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>Gudaguda 2 for half a month
>Chaldea Ace magazine next week
>final Fragments volume about a week and a half after that
>maybe a new even or gacha a week after that
Nice how some things are sort of happening this month. Makes me think that May will be a month of nothing.
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>>173449139
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Help, my daughter got really fat.
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>>173448853
>He likes NTR
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Pirates bond maxed out. This makes me sad given how many times their Noble Phantasm has saved me against high HP casters.
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Goetia when? We're fated. He said so. Fuck off Eggplant.
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Do we know how Prelati's reincarnation works yet?
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I LOVE RICHARD!
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CHACHA WHEN?
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>>173449559
I'd guess it has to do with his descendants.
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>>173449423

I can help her get into shape and burn all those calories, but I'll need privacy for a month, fifty one-gallon jugs of industrial strength lube, and a hundred vibrator eggs (for when they wear out) plus spare batteries.
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>>173449559
no
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I want to bully Nobukatsu
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=62308879
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>>173449559
Probably demons.
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>>173449559
Since Francesca mentioned fresh organs and such the bodies probably made from actual humans.
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>>173449773

That's wonderful and all, anon, but how will you masturbating anally help my daughter lose weight?
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>>173449980
>anally
you have much to learn, my young apprentice
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I wonder if the nips will be able to clear the bar before the next daily log in bonus.
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So it seems that Alcides actually appreciates Jason a lot and he is angry when Bazdilot sees his dreams and insults him.
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Thicc
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>>173450164
Regular Herc also liked Jason.
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>>173450089
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>>173450164

That makes sense, Heracles seems to like Jason in Okeanos and the final Order as well. At least this means Alcides isn't complete edge and at least has the capacity to feel friendship.
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http://poal.me/w06yhy
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>>173450164
It would be hilarious if he eventually ends up killing Bazdilot over that since he no longer has Command Seals to restrain him.
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/JeanneAlter/ thread.
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>>173450164
Well, yeah. You can't dislike Jason. He's basically Shinji, after all.
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>>173450485
Actually seeing his reaction Baz decides to never bring it up again just in case.
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Does anyone have any cute pictures of this hunky saint?
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I hope Admetus is brought up.One of Herc's best moments, and the greatest wank material too.
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Friendly reminder of the following undeniable truths:
- All welfare servants that aren't Rider Kintoki are worthless garbage.
- All multi-enemy NPs that aren't Gil or Raikou are worthless garbage.
- All servants below 4 stars are worthless garbage.
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>>173450679
I wonder if Spooky has managed to assassinate his boss yet.
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Can I become a citizen of Uruk too?
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>>173450164

Kind of like Karna in that regard. You can shittalk Heracles all you want, but insult the guy who took him in and appreciated him when he had nowhere else to go and he'll fucking end you.
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Guan Yu 5* when lads?
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>>173450903
I suppose that will come in a "I need the family resources" scene that ends with a what the fuck happened to the family.
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>>173450406
Since when was Boudica so popular?
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>>173450949
PLEASE STOP.
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>>173450949
He's going to be a loli then how will you feel
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>>173451040
If Red Hare has Gaun Yu as an NP, that guy will cream himself.
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>>173451000
Everyone here is tsundere for Boudica.
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>>173450314
I hope we can have it as a support 3*
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http://imgur.com/a/4o7W9
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Reminder that Divine Spirits =/= gods, and that Scathach only killed the shades of Divine Spirits who are in and of themselves the hollow remains of the original gods.
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>>173451249

What skillset could Jason have that wouldn't suck, though?

Charisma is obvious unless they go the Voyager of the Storm route. Voyager would still be better than Charisma + Military Tactics, though.
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>>173450164
Where is this information coming from? 2ch?
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>>173451329
If that's the case, only Sephar and other gods have ever killed gods, so that distinction is pointless.
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>>173451284
>le epic riyo servants xD
fuck off, I'm still waiting for the profiles of FGOGO
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>>173451000
She is not. Polls are always spammed, Carmilla and Boudica winning is a joke, realistically, you would have Jeanne Alter on the first place.
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>>173450406
shameless bikinis for Medb when?
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>>173450406
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>>173451284
thanks friendo
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>>173451447
There is one other thing that specifies gods rather than divine spirits when it comes to killing them.
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>>173450164
did Narita even read GO or what
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>>173451575
Did you?
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>>173451450
-->THIS<---

J A L T E R
A
L
T
E
R
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=muwRnfRxTEA

Are you ready for Liz's animation updates, /fgog/?
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>>173451343
voyager, guts, buster (for all allys)
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>>173451382
There is a guy posting screenshots of the novel itself at Baidu.
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>>173451575
Herc likes Jason in GO too.
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>>173451687
>>173451450
>Jeanne Alter being beat out by Liz, Nero, and fucking Taiga of all people
Are you sure she's as popular as you think she is?
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>>173449914
So Touko, but with flesh golems instead of puppets. Does that technically make her a tranny?
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Guten Abend, Kinderlein. Wanna score some classical music?
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>>173452256
I'm gonna make you a tranny
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Loli Altera when?
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>>173452235
Do you honestly believe Taiga would actually be at the top of any popularity thread?
I say this as someone who has her maxed but that's obviously spam, same with Boudica. But don't worry anon, what's important is if you like them.
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What is your favorite Fate story arc?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12599114
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Which Saber is your favorite?
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>>173452574
I honestly think people would choose her for a swimsuit competition. Same with Boudica. They have nice a fuck bodies.
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>>173452517
Altera Lily 4*!
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>>173452574
>Do you honestly believe Taiga would actually be at the top of any popularity thread?
I would if this world was just and populated by people with actual taste.
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>>173452712
The OC from my fanfic.
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>>173452723

Which food was the bad civilization and which was the good civilization?
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>>173452712
Blue Saber
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>>173452827
They reconciled that it was all good.
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>>173452721
>>173452731
There are more voters than IPs on the thread, the spam isn't even subtle. You can both stop pretending now.
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>>173452712
My waifu.
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>>173452943

>lurkers don't exist and outnumber the visible posters 1000 to 1
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>>173452712

All the grown up Sabers.
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>>173452943
That's because people can vote for more than one option. I voted for like six different girls.
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>>173452721
Taiga and Boudica bodies aren't even similar, and Taiga has a long story of not being popular despite being on FSN and a great girl.
Anon is right, you shouldn't trust a poll that has her at the top.
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>>173452827
Vanillaware food is best civilization. Vanillaware making a Fate Cooking Game when?

>>173452943
There are always lurkers in the thread that never posts.

t.former lurker that didn't post for 5 years
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>>173452574
Sometimes I hope for a world where she's popular, but only for small moments.
And don't worry, I know it doesn't matter what others think Lousy.
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>>173452619
>What's your favorite
>But you're only allowed to pick from the few stories I want, otherwise you have shit taste >:(
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>>173450406
>Jack
Pedos get out.
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>>173453241
You shouldn't trust internet polls at all.
There is less than a 1% chance they are not cheated since it is incredibly easy
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Why would people even vote for Liz? She is flat as fuck and she doesn't even have curves.
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>>173452574
I voted for her.

I expect people with excellent taste to do the same.
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Whose your waifu and is she 100 yet?
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When is it gotten CharChar?
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>>173453647
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>>173453713
after you clear the main quest for gudaguda2
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>>173453647
She is a qt
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>>173453669
time since birth or length of life
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>>173453742
I'd unleash gooey JUDGEMENTO all over her body and in the deepest recesses of each of her holes, if you know what I mean.
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>>173453742
Tits too big,
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>>173453713
after the nips finish depleting the bar.
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>>173453647
Her swimsuit is hilariously retarded.
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>>173453954
Really? It does things to my dick.
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>>173450406
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So Misora confirmed for a blood leaking person?
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>>173452712
The best one!
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>>173453742
>no ass
>no chest
>elbows so sharp they could open tin cans
>head so oversized she looks hydrocephalic
>hair in the color of baby vomit
>voice that sounds like a cat that just got stepped on
>pigtails
She's like euthanasia to erect dicks.
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>>173454368
>tfw Misora deleted you
Ah well, good times. My list is full again now anyway.
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>>173453247
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So guys is hijikata worth whaling for? I am really in a pinch here because I do love Sakura and I am willing to whale for her so hard.
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>>173454427
That isn't Nero though.
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So Saint Germaine was running around during the crusades in a decked out car and was potentially from the future or something. He proudly declares himself just a swindler up front, which seems to excite Richard. Says he's no magus, but he can see Ayaka who is watching Richard's memories in that moment.

Also Flat is meant to be a freak of nature. The long sought after dream of a certain family which was finally completed. Parents were instantly freaked out by him and wanted rid of him though.
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>>173452721
She is fine as hell.
Shame about the whole no art thing.
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Gawain is cutest knight!
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Reines when?
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>>173454709
>Parents were instantly freaked out by him and wanted rid of him though.
Because they don't know about the plan. It's said that the family forgot.
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>Self-buffed Raikou critting for 90k with one buster
The Okita/Hijikata CE is fucking stupid.
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I want to lock Dr. Lonely in a small confined space so he can make me some homunculi meidos.
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>173452712
Mo-san a best!
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>>173455861

I can get behind this.
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>>173455861
how was this even made
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa5z99jzcuE

Never ever.
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>>173456048
Nero is the better red.
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>>173455861
I'm not even sure what this list is representing
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>>173456175
Would killl to get her to be my gf for one day.
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>>173452712
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>>173456407
My brother of Roma.
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>>173456229
It's a list of who's more valuable as a rare prism.
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>>173452712
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Retard question: how do multiple copies of the Okita/Hijikata CE stack? Multiplicatively?
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>>173455861
Sumanai's gotta go.
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>>173452712
I like all of them except Nero though
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>>173456745
Additively, obviously.
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>>173452712
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>>173451575
Anon, Jason was the one who took Herk in when nobody wanted him and gave him a purpose. He would DIE for him even in FGO.
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>>173454821
>>173457173
KILL YOURSELF.
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>>173456954
>150% extra damage from CEs
>100% bonus damage on Nobu
Is this her final form?
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I want to help my kouhai develop an exhibitionism fetish.
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>>173456715
>tfw no Bride
I hope she comes back for the CCC event. I got 500 quartz for her waiting.
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>>173457694
How does she become an fish?
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>>173457543
It's all added together at once, so she has her own attack + 250% of it in that case.
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>>173457857
I only have her at 60 with no Fou cards, so I'm pretty happy with her hitting like a fucking truck.
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Just started playing. I burned a repeat 4 star card because I didn't know it was used for noble phantasm leveling. Is that bad?
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>>173457970
time to reroll
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Help me I dont want to whale for this gacha
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>>173455107
Will he too get an animation update? I feel like he needs it.
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>>173458036
Rerolling feels like cheating though.
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>>173458154
What 4 star was it?
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>>173458154
It's more like slight balancing, DW is cheating you with their rates from the beginning.
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How complex were his motives?
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>>173452712
TB dork or the mastermind
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>>173458218
Pink haired loli with a book
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>>173457719
I feel you. I saved 500 for her too.
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>>173458379
Time to kill yourself friend.
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>>173458379
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>>173458142
Of all the servants with generic caster animations, he probably needs it the least. At the very least he has some variation to show the different elements.
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>>173457694
What is crossing through her mind?
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>>173458379
There is no pink haired loli though.
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>>173458556
Helena
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>>173458556
he means Helena
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>>173458458
>>173458463
I-is she good? She looked kinda retarded, I was disappointed when I got two of her

>>173458556
Like pink-purple-ish hair. I guess not really a loli either
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>>173458516
probably that your mother will die in her sleep in you don't reply to this
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>>173458379
How dare you, you IRIOT, I'LL BURN YOU.
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Hijikata is kinda depressing me, the more I hear him talk
At first I thought he was just sounding like a badass with his I AM THE SHINSENGUMI and related quotes but then I realized he's really in complete denial that everything he stands for has been gone for decades
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http://louworks.wixsite.com/mycp00

man this needs to be real
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>>173458678
>>173458649
>>173458645
But that's purple, not pink. Pink is something like Medb's.

>I-is she good?
Not gamebreaking but she is decent.
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>>173458678
She's alright. Not the best, not the worst.

http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky
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>>173458678
Yes, she's like a lite version of another 5* caster.
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>>173458736
Pretty much, it's hinted that Hideyoshi summoned him too because he couldn't let go of the past like Nobukatsu.
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>>173458792
>http://louworks.wixsite.com/mycp00
>my cp
MODS
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>tfw no fun Hijikata
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>>173458406
I saved 300+ quartz last time, and spent 700ish dollars total both times for her.
Fuck my life.
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>>173458792
>>173459024
Thad pls
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>>173458792
>mycp00
I'm not clicking that shit.
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>>173450089
>>173450362
>Vendemos Coca Cola bien fria
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>>173458792
W-what's in?
I need to go prepared depending on what is in.
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>>173458792
>facebook guy fanmade

Fuck off.
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>>173458792
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>>173459007
Dunno if that's supposed to be a theme since this is a space where nothing advances or moves. Sanada also seemed hung up on some horse?

Then again he also weakened his own fortress NP by jamming swords all through it.
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>tfw still no Chacha
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Is Chacha retarded
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>>http://louworks.wixsite.com/mycp00
It's safe, guys. Don't worry. It's a fanmade Carnival Phantasm.
Here's a proof.
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>>173459416
No, Chacha is kawaii
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>>173458792
Stop trying to corrupt these people you sick fuck.
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>>173458890
>>173458864
>>173458801
>>173458705
One more stupid question: should I be doing single rolls or 10 rolls? The faq was unclear.
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>>173459484
>implying you will make me click it
You won't get me into the FBI honeypot.
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>>173459484
Don't click, is facebook shitposting.
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>Can't finish that mission where you get shot by cannons at the start because the game keeps fucking crashing
Have fun with your Chachas
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>>173459624
A bit too late for that anon, you are already on 4chan.
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>>173459606
A 10-roll guarantees you at least one gold, but there are so many bad gold CEs that it's largely personal preference. I've gotten a limited 5-star off of a single before, so just do what you want.
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>>173459606
it really doesn't matter
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NP power goes up as HP lowers? Jannu can help.
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>>173459606
10 rolls guarantee a 4 star, be it a CE or a servant.
So the only difference between a ten roll and ten singles is that the former is 9 medeas and one record holder, and the later is 10 Medea's.
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>>173459395
I can't wait more for my cute Chacha.
I hope we truly get her after this golden life bar .
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>>173455861
This is the meme list we needed.
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>>173459606
Do you want your suffering to end quickly or take longer to extinguish your hope?
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>>173459858
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>>173459891
>tfw you'll never get over how badly Pako fucked up her face
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>>173460262
That's how Pako draws side faces since forever though, have you not seen his twitter or Nobu last ascension?
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>mfw all these retards being impatient for a shitty 4* welfare
Chacha's gonna be irredeemable garbage, just like every other welfare that isn't Rider Kintoki.
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>>173460516
Kuro is better than Rider Kintoki.
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>>173460439
It's less obvious with Nobu's last art than it is with Chacha, though it might just be the difference of expressions. I didn't realize Nobu was naked in her last ascension until maybe a week ago.
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>>173460701
Holy fuck I didn't realize till now.
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>>173460550
I like using Kuro but she really isn't as good
Ridetoki's NP gain, NP damage and star gen is kinda ridiculous for a welfare
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>>173460701
>>173460797
Well yeah, how else is she going to make Nobus?
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>>173460821
Kuro wins on spam and can make stars with fucking arts to then crit harder than Kintoki with them. She is just as ridiculous if not even more.
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>>173461181
>Kuro wins on spam
I'm not sure if you've ever used Rider Kintoki
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>>173461156
>Fell for the Okita meme and now I have to start hoarding quartz again for summer
At least I finally got my redman
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>>173461156
I need this in my life
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>>173461156
Yes please. I need more Ushi.
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>>173461276
And I'm not sure if you have ever used Kuro.

Lets stick to hard numbers anyway.
Kuro has a 1.15% NP gain with 2 hits on Arts and 4 hits on quicks, she has 2 cards of both.
Kintoki has 0.38% with 6 hits on Arts and 3 hits on quicks (less than Kuro despite the far lower NP gain), he has 2 quicks and only 1 art.
Both have 50% instant NP.

Now, you do the math and tell me who wins on spam.
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So real talk, how big was Saber's dick when she had it?
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>>173461857
>shitposting by swapping numbers
That's a new trick
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>>173461963
Probably longer than she was tall knowing Merlin.
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>>173461963

Knowing Merlin, bitch-breaker sized.
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>>173461857
>caring this much about spam
You also have to take into account damage modifiers, ATK, and skills.
Ridetoki is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Kuro.
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>>173461857
>shitposting with false numbers that aren't even close to actual data

get the fuck out
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>>173461963
Enough to father a retard
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>>173450589
Best boy?
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>>173461857
lol
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>2017
>still can't upgrade NP simultaneously
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>>173462679
FGO isn't a game that's meant to be convenient. Please understand.
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>>173462679
>F/GO
>An efficient game
Pick one.
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>>173462679
>Being this new.
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>>173462747
>>173462901
This
Thats why we still can't feed 20 EXPs at once and limited at 5 EXPs per levelling
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>Tfw no CE drop
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Can someone tell me where exactly is this "Gilgamesh is a Grand Candidate" thing come from? I just remembered it when it was mentioned in the last thread, because I've read the whole of Babylon, Solomon, every interlude involving any of the three Gils and there is never a single comment about being, aspiring for or qualifying for Grand Whatever. Archer, Caster, nothing, not a word. Was it mentioned in Nasu's blog or something? I read that too, but the tiny font is annoying so I sometimes end up skimming without meaning to.

The only reasoning I can find by searching is people in random forums arguing that it's because he has Clairvoyance, which seems like an idiotic stretch. Merlin only says that to call oneself the strongest mage, one would need those eyes, not that the eyes are the only qualification. Caster Gil is pretty candid about the fact that he can't use magic worth shit and is just fucking around with his wands.
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ファラオの神威を見るがいい。フフッ、フフフハハハハハハ!
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How to fuck myself?
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Are my Gilgamesh sisters around?
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>>173463248
>Gilgamesh is a Grand Candidate
He isn't, he's just at the same level as them when alive.
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>>173463716
>sisters
Fuck off and get back in the kitchen.
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>>173463248

Merlin says you need EX rank Clairvoyance to qualify for Grand Caster, which is why only he, Solomon, and Gilgamesh qualify for it as far as we know. Like the Caster class, Grand Caster doesn't require any knowledge of actual magecraft. Merlin admits he dislikes magecraft and voices a general distaste for anything that isn't illusion magic, and while he's clearly very gifted at it, he hasn't accomplished anything even close to what Solomon has as a magus. There are several magi throughout history who are likely more talented than Merlin, like Zelretch and the First Magic user. However, those don't qualify for Grand Caster for the reason stated above. So basically, skill with Magecraft has nothing to do with being a Caster, and the same goes for Grand Caster. With that in mind, Gilgamesh has the one qualification we know of for being Grand Caster, so there's no reason to think he isn't a candidate to be it, even if he's naturally behind Solomon and Merlin.
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>>173463869
Please don't be mean. He is amazing.
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>cas gil doesn't throw books scrolls and stone tablets like I predicted he would
Disappoint
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>>173463248
IIRC, it got posted about after Babylon launched but before there were any translations or summaries of the order. It was taken as fact even though nobody could confirm it by checking.
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Consider the following:

-Artoria Skill Line:
>“Time to settle this!”

-Gilgamesh Skill Line:
>”Struggle all you want.”

-Ozzymandias Skill Line:
>”There is nothing upooon this eeearth impooosible for Pharaoh! All things and all creaaaation lie in my hands!”
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>>173463716
>>173464005
Stop falseflagging
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>>173464114
Ozzy can talk for how long he wants he's the pharaoh
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>>173464114
[boasts in egyptian]
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>>173464114
Even though I have no gold ST Riders since I missed Onigashima, I probably wouldn't level Ozzy if I rolled him just because he never shuts up.
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>Tfw my team is destroying all these quests

I am not really feeling motivated to do all this grind fgog please tell me how to enjoy the game.
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>>173463248

It's based on the assumption that Grand Caster is, in fact, the 'strongest mage' Merlin is referring to there. And if that's the case, the question becomes 'what counts as a mage?' Because writers with zero knowledge of magecraft have qualified for the Caster class, as has Gil who laughs about how shitty magecraft is in general. If 'the strongest mage' MUST have Clairvoyance on par with Solomon and Merlin, then Gilgamesh, who is a Caster, is immediately catapulted up to the same realm as Solomon and Merlin even if he knows zero magecraft. Gilgamesh is then memed into Grand Candidate status, because if both Merlin and Solomon's souls were somehow removed from the Throne, Gilgamesh would automatically take their place as Grand Caster, as bizarre as that may sound.
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>>173464712
Do something you find enjoyable while playing.
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>>173463690
Clone yourself
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>>173464712
Fap to your servants while playing
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>>173463716
Hi sis!
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Guys any of you have a S7 Edge? How the game runs in that phone?
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>>173463953
>>173463953
So like I thought, it was all a bunch of wank you people made up, huh?

>Merlin says you need EX rank Clairvoyance to qualify for Grand Caster

You're already starting out with misquoting things and adding specificity that isn't there. There is one line in Garden of Avalon's prologue where he says "no mage could call themselves 'the strongest' if they don't have these eyes."

The rest of your post is fanwank. Merlin only ever says he prefers smacking things with a sword because it's less of a hassle than chanting quickly in combat. That is all. We have very little particular reference to how he measures in skill relative to anyone else, aside from Roman laughing at Da Vinci's claim that he wants to make something to surpass Argetlam, where Roman's point is that trying to match up to Merlin's skill might be out of his reach. That is it: the only time Merlin's skills are remarked upon, it is extremely favorably. Conversely, the only argument that he might not be a spectacular wizard is that he claims combat chanting is a hassle because he ends up biting tongue.

Again, you are discounting spellcasting as a requirement and claiming Merlin's outmatched without evidence solely because he says "chanting quickly is a hassle".

So Gil meets one qualification. That's all the text ever said. But you wanted to wank, so you made up a bunch of specific judgments as to the magical skill of someone else entirely who quite obviously can use magic plenty enough, used said made claims to discount spellcasting as a requirement altogether, and then decided that Clairvoyance is the only qualification for a class whose only actually confirmed candidates are most definitely extremely gifted spellcasters.

Why is it always like this? Can't you fucks help yourselves from making shit up? This crap is everywhere now and good fucking luck getting that genie in a bottle when you've been passing outright fanwank as fact everywhere else.
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>>173465167
I have a Note 4, it works fine
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How many servants still have a blank entry left in their profile?
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>>173465212
Man, you must really be bored.
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>>173465320
Tristan,Lancelot,Ibaraki,Riceman,KH,Musashi
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>https://twitter.com/zikataro/status/850607016015929344

NO SANZOU-CHAN DON'T!
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>>173465212
>he claims combat chanting is a hassle because he ends up biting tongue

haha, what a dork
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Will NR be able to teach him magic?
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>>173465519
Fate need more bestiality
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>>173465212
>Can't you fucks help yourselves from making shit up?
You're asking a community that can't read the source material and that absolutely loves shitposting to not make things up and spread misinformation.
Anybody who gives a shit should know better than to take anything posted here seriously.
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>>173465643
Nah Gil is too dumb to understand things literally a bimbo
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>>173465212

>There is one line in Garden of Avalon's prologue where he says "no mage could call themselves 'the strongest' if they don't have these eyes."

Hold onto that thought.

>We have very little particular reference to how he measures in skill relative to anyone else, aside from Roman laughing at Da Vinci's claim that he wants to make something to surpass Argetlam, where Roman's point is that trying to match up to Merlin's skill might be out of his reach.

Argetlam is Excalibur, you dingus. How can you claim to have read the game and then talk shit like this?

>Again, you are discounting spellcasting as a requirement and claiming Merlin's outmatched without evidence solely because he says "chanting quickly is a hassle".

Spellcasting has never been a requirement to be a Caster. See: writers and Gilgamesh.

>So Gil meets one qualification. That's all the text ever said. But you wanted to wank, so you made up a bunch of specific judgments as to the magical skill of someone else entirely who quite obviously can use magic plenty enough, used said made claims to discount spellcasting as a requirement altogether, and then decided that Clairvoyance is the only qualification for a class whose only actually confirmed candidates are most definitely extremely gifted spellcasters.

Actually, let's look at that quote again.

>"no mage could call themselves 'the strongest' if they don't have these eyes."

So basically, if you don't have Clairvoyance on the same level as Merlin and Solomon, you can't be the strongest. That immediately puts Gil, the guy who fakes his magecraft with staffs and scrolls, above every other Heroic Spirit mage in history except the ones who have the same level of Clairvoyance. Which means that if Merlin and Solomon became unsummonable for some reason, like being removed from the Throne, Gilgamesh would be the only one left who could call himself the strongest.
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>>173465212
Keep crying bitch.
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Have you grailed your waifu to 100 yet?
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>>173465253
Do you get lag on it whenever stars come out? I have a Note 4 and it does that..I'm still on lollipop though
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>>173465829
I am too afraid to be called JeanneAlter shitter so I haven't done it.
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>>173465167
Runs perfectly on the S6 for me.
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>>173465829
I have autism to get her to 10/10/10 first before grailing
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>>173465829
Yes!
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>>173465829
I don't have my waifu
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>>173465829
My waifu isn't in the game nor will she ever be, so no.
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>>173465829
yes
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>>173463953
>Merlin
Roman says that maybe the qualification for Grand Caster is possessing those eyes and gives example of people with Clairvoyance of that level. At that point they didn't even meet Gilgamesh to even know he could be a Caster, he's giving examples of people with Clairvoyance.

All Merlin says is that only he and Solomon are on the same "tier" while calling the rest of magi and Casters as "second rates."
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>>173465253
>>173465960
Thanks for the feedback I guess I will buy the S8 and see what's up.
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>>173466073
That's my mom, she is not a waifu
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>>173465829
I don't have one because I think limiting yourself to a single imaginary committed relationship is stupid and sad.
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>Angry the elders don't see your sister properly, and they want to prop up your incompetent self instead.
>Launch what you know to be a failed rebellion so she'll have to make an example of you, and quell all the doubters in that moment.
>Know the rebellion won't succeed because you're incompetent.
>Confuse the fact that you just wish things could go back how they were, and that you were unhappy, and you hated the elders. To mean that your sister felt the same, when really she didn't give a fuck about it.

I wouldn't quite call it a tragedy
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>>173465212
Solomon=Merlin > Gilgamesh > every other caster
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>>173466185
Haters gonna hate. I love my waifu.
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>>173466185
You just didn't met that special one for you anon
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>>173466207
Nobunaga was unhappy though and blames herself. The last chapter was fully angsty for her and Chacha who is heartbroken over Hideyoshi getting turned into that.
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>>173466129
You get a Note3 for Like $199 or less. You can get that or something better and it should still run smoothly.

I think you just need more 2 RAM or more.
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>>173466185
just replace waifu with best girl/best boy for the purpose of the question
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>>173466241
>Gilgamesh > every other caster
There could be other Casters with EX rank Clairvoyance.
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>>173465816

>Spellcasting has never been a requirement to be a Caster.

We're discussing the qualifications for Grand Caster, not Caster. It's supposed to be the apex of the class.

>Which means that if Merlin and Solomon became unsummonable for some reason, like being removed from the Throne, Gilgamesh would be the only one left who could call himself the strongest.

Again, more wank. Who said there's only ever been three Clairvoyance users in all of history? There's an assload of myths involving people who can see the future in some measure. Scathach used her skill as Clairvoyance too and she definitely can use magic to boot. Does that mean she's confirmed as Grand Caster too and you should treat it as fact?

This is pointless, you took a snippet of information, made up a bunch of rules and claims from thin air, and now decided that this is fact.

Incidentally, this means bringing up "Gil is a Grand Caster Candidate" as a point in a powerlevel debate automatically makes whoever does that a retard, because the only argument you managed to produce is that he'd get in exclusively because of the eyes, not because of being better or stronger than anyone else.
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>>173466457
>scat is not a grand caster candidate too
Okay let's stop this the shitposting has become too obvious
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>>173466360
>Nobunaga was unhappy though and blames herself.

You're really overplaying her angst the last few days. Even how it ended up was just her saying she'd have to put him in the grave again, she doesn't regret it, and human life is meant to be short. She was surprised he wasn't a weasel, but that was the extent of it. She says she could have handled it a bit better in the past, probably stuck him in a temple somewhere, but she was not unhappy, nor would she do it differently if pressed.
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>>173466446
Roman only listed Gil, Merlin and Solomon. Merlin also listed themselves. I'm sorry anon. If it's worth, Gilgamesh is no Caster. That's probably why he doesn't qualify.
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>>173466457
Not Clairvoyance in general, Clairvoyance on their level. Gil, Merlin, and Solomon have the most powerful Clairvoyance or equivalent in the series. Scathach getting it from her wisdom skill is A rank at best, not EX.
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>>173465829
You bet I did
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>>173466457
Are you from BL? You sound like someone who came from there
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>>173466643
You're claiming Gilgamesh is confirmed to be the next in line, which implies you also know it's confirmed there is no other Clairvoyance user at that rank in all of history. Where did you get that extremely specific confirmation?
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>>173466934
For a moment I thought Hijikata had edgyangst wings
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>>173466185
I though the waifuism was just a platonic love of sorts.
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>>173466457

>We're discussing the qualifications for Grand Caster, not Caster. It's supposed to be the apex of the class.

And the apex is everyone with EX rank Clairvoyance. Merlin says it has to be his level of eyes, and his is EX rank. The spellcasting itself comes second to that.

>Again, more wank. Who said there's only ever been three Clairvoyance users in all of history? There's an assload of myths involving people who can see the future in some measure. Scathach used her skill as Clairvoyance too and she definitely can use magic to boot. Does that mean she's confirmed as Grand Caster too and you should treat it as fact?

Do you know how ranks work? Why is your first and most immediate example of a character with Clairvoyance Scathach and not EMIYA, the first character in the series to have it? Did you know you can see the future with merely A rank Clairvoyance? That's how Arash witnesses the future. EX rank Clairvoyance is way better than that. You can see past, present and future, even alternate timelines.

>This is pointless, you took a snippet of information, made up a bunch of rules and claims from thin air, and now decided that this is fact.

Nope.

>Incidentally, this means bringing up "Gil is a Grand Caster Candidate" as a point in a powerlevel debate automatically makes whoever does that a retard,

What the actual fuck are you on about now?

>because the only argument you managed to produce is that he'd get in exclusively because of the eyes, not because of being better or stronger than anyone else.

Oh no, not exclusively because of the eyes. Clearly Merlin and Solomon are ahead of him in line because they're talented mages and he isn't. But there's a clearly defined gate to become Grand Caster, and only people with EX rank Clairvoyance get through that gate to enter the pool of candidates because it doesn't matter how good you are at spellcasting. You'll never be the 'strongest mage' without eyes like Merlin.
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>>173466775
Why is it that every time anyone questions unsourced claims, you jump up to ask them if they're from there? Why are you so obsessed with the place and, more importantly, how long did you spend there yourself that you think you can pick out how someone "sounds"? Did you get chased off from there for making shit up so you're paranoid and anyone posting inaccuracies anywhere sounds the same to you?
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>>173454484
Maybe if you're a faggot that prefers fucking men.
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>>173465829
No I grailed my daughter instead.
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>>173465829
Of course. I wouldn't be much of a waifufag if I hadn't already.
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If I have 6 2030's it is better to Lb 1 and have two characters with it right?
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>>173467373
Because you are being autistic, too autistic over nothing, and now you are also getting defensive
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>>173467269
>You can see past, present and future, even alternate timelines.
Gil can only see the future and Merlin can only see the present.
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How is Nasu going to replace the Pillar Demons as bosses? It just feels completely awkward now every here and there they appear to wreck shit even after death.

Despite attempting to make Tiamat's limited personal mooks relevant, he failed to establish them.
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>>173465829
Only the alternate universe version that's inferior, but still cute. Waiting for the real thing still.
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>>173466846

So you're asking us to now blindly speculate that there may be other EX rank Clairvoyance users somewhere. Why do you bitch so much about fanwank and then ask us to literally fanwank?

>>173467373

No, you know what outed you as being from BL?

>Incidentally, this means bringing up "Gil is a Grand Caster Candidate" as a point in a powerlevel debate automatically makes whoever does that a retard,

This had A) nothing to do with the conversation at hand and B) exposed you as being heavily butthurt over setting and character details in a way that is all too reminiscent of BL's underage population.
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>>173467590
Hello there, fellow Musashifriend.
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>>173467269
>Do you know how ranks work? Why is your first and most immediate example of a character with Clairvoyance Scathach and not EMIYA, the first character in the series to have it?

Because she could see the future, whereas Emiya can only see far. Why would anyone ever use Emiya as the example here for any reason?

That question makes no sense. This sounds less like a logical point and more like you're scrambling to poke holes hoping mere quantity of rebuttals will make up for quality.

>EX rank Clairvoyance is way better than that. You can see past, present and future, even alternate timelines.

The only one who can see in all directions is Solomon. For someone acting like big shot, this is one hell of a stupid mistake.

>Oh no, not exclusively because of the eyes.

You're arguing that someone who can't use magic is confirmed qualified because of the eyes. That's pretty exclusive.
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>>173467580
Its just the dead body of a pillar demon that fell from Solomon's temple, into a mini world where Nobukatsu and maybe Hideyoshi were, since they couldn't move on from the past. Its not clear if that was once Hideyoshi and he's currently fused with the demon.
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>>173467706
Nah, i'm not a FotW waifufag like those lame ass Musashifags.
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Ignore them. It's probably that Scat tumblrfag who wrote a 10k page "essay" about the worthless jobber.
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>>173467397
>Hoverhanding your own sister
He really is made for bulling
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Do we have a summary of this event so far?
I've been kinda out of the thread for a while.


Something about Nobu's little brother trying to make up for something no one really cared about?
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>>173467647
>This had A) nothing to do with the conversation at hand and B) exposed you as being heavily butthurt over setting and character details in a way that is all too reminiscent of BL's underage population.

I mentioned that because someone brought it up in the previous thread as exactly that, and it got me curious when I remembered there was no reference to any of this in the game.

Also, I repeat the point about you being very familiar with what people from that forum sound like. I honestly have no fucking clue since I don't go there.
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>>173467836
Wait did someone really do that? Essay about what? Her powerlevel?
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>>173467772
Nobukatsu revived the demon god somehow. Maybe he sacrificed Hideyoshi for it.
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>>173467519

>Gil can only see the future

Wrong. Gilgamesh is capable of looking into any direction in the timeline he pleases, whether it is past or future. There are limits to his past sight and he cannot see back far enough to witness the origin of Potnia Theron, the Earth Mother Catalhoyuk, but he's very clear that he can do so in CCC. He also observes alternate timelines according to the description of the NP, but he discounts ones where he loses at anything as clearly nonsense.

>Merlin can only see the present.

Also wrong. Merlin can observe big details in both past and future, such as the collapse of Camelot and Arturia's demise. The strength of his Clairvoyance is focused on the present, yes, and his vision of the present is even clearer than that of Gilgamesh, but he cannot only see the present.
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>>173467913
I don't know. Someone spammed it threads ago.
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>>173467913
About everything.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kPW5qQyXQjeey0Hn_D56pGgI9sc5JltqDnDV4DwxUws/edit
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>>173467753
BL please get out.
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>>173467996
>Wrong. Gilgamesh is capable of looking into any direction in the timeline he pleases, whether it is past or future.

He's got a monologue in SF where he very clearly states that he can't. He can only deduce the past.
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>>173468068
I'm afraid of reading it
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>>173467996
>whether it is past or future
But he doesn't. Where did you get this?

>Merlin can observe big details in both past and future, such as the collapse of Camelot and Arturia's demise.
He can make prophecies, but his eyes can only see the present. Not the same thing. He even says so in GoA.
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Berserker Jack is strong it seems

Can be anyone, look like anyone, not be detected, NP turns him into the devil which becomes the accumulated fears of everyone within 5 KM and is super inhuman existence that damages humans badly. Second ability lets him become 500 different people at once at will, the number of people he becomes decreases if one of them is very strong. He can be people, a group of people, your best friend, your wife, or monster.
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>>173467996
>he's very clear that he can do so in CCC
I think that got retconned to be that he can infer the past in precise detail by inspecting various futures. He mentions it in SF.
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Post waifus!
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>>173468068
Someone cares about her '''character'''? I thought people just gave a shit because of her tits and thighs.
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>>173468234
>no swordbeam
Meh
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Who are your top 3 FGO VAs?

Male
1) Sakurai Takahiro - Merlin, Arthur
2) Sugita Tomokazu - Goetia and all the pillars
3) Tomokazu Seki - Gilgamesh, Mozart

Female
1) Taneda Risa - Kiyohime, Mata Hari, Marie
2) Haruka Tomatsu - Raikou
3) Kawasumi Ayako - Artoria
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>>173468234
>He can turn into your perfect waifu so you can fuck him.
Would summon.
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>>173468234
>Berserker Jack is strong it seems
Because his Master is Flat. The Flat is some kind of freakish phenomena that made all this possible.
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>>173467454
That's what I did. No point in having six if you can't equip them all at once.
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>>173468358
1. Sakurai
2. Suzuken
3. Sugita

1. Maaya
2. Kawasumi
3. Sawashiro
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>>173467878
Guda Guda particles detected in some closed off space

Nobukatsu and Hijikata are found in that world, it seems this is during the time of the Shinsengumi. Except most people are gone. Turns out this is a world where things don't move or go forward ever, a closed off disconnected book.

Nobukatsu captures Chacha and reveals he was working for Hideyoshi all along. Hideyoshi is a pillarman. Nobukatsu just wants to go back to how he was with Nobu as kids, back when they could get along. Nobunaga tells him he's wrong, and she'll be the one to finish him. Heroes must raid against Hideyoshi's golden capital to get back chacha and put an end to this mini singularity of sorts.
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>>173468358
Male:
1)Miyano Mamoru
2)Suwabe Junichi
3)Tomokazu Seki

Female:
1) Kugimiya Rie
2) Chiwa Saito
3) Ookubo Rumi
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>>173468316
Umu!
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>>173468425
Jacks abilities are the same with any other master, the only thing Flat's abilities changed was how many copies Jack could make of himself. His devil NP would be the same no matter who summons him.

The biggest thing Flat's luck accomplished, was summoning Jack in his optimal form that wouldn't kill Flat instantly. Instead he summoned the form that could work with him very properly.
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>>173465320
>>173465448
Gawain as well
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>>173467753

>Because she could see the future, whereas Emiya can only see far. Why would anyone ever use Emiya as the example here for any reason?

Except that's not what you said. You gave Scat as an example of someone else having Clairvoyance because your argument was a deliberate misrepresentation of my argument that was easier for you to try to poke holes in. That's called a fallacy. Incidentally, now you aren't even trying to argue about the details and just insulting me. That's a pretty sure sign that you're out of arguments.

>The only one who can see in all directions is Solomon. For someone acting like big shot, this is one hell of a stupid mistake.

That's pretty fuckin' wrong. Gilgamesh's Clairvoyance has been very clearly explained as seeing in all directions in CCC and materials. And it's really rich that you're accusing me of that when you came in here swinging your dick around all high and mighty from your very first post, looking for someone to argue with to make yourself look big and tough.

>You're arguing that someone who can't use magic is confirmed qualified because of the eyes. That's pretty exclusive.

Having eyes on par with Merlin is the first and most important requirement to be the strongest mage. Without them, no matter how good you are at spellcasting, you're still only second-rate. Once you have those eyes, though, and you're in the EX Clairvoyance Club, you then get sorted based on how good a mage you are. That's why Solomon is #1 until his soul becomes unavailable for the position, and then it goes to Merlin who's the runner-up. This isn't complicated.

>>173467908

>I mentioned that because someone brought it up in the previous thread as exactly that, and it got me curious when I remembered there was no reference to any of this in the game.

So you're so butthurt over an argument a whole thread ago that you felt the need to bring it up and dickwave about it?
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>>173468571
Cool, thank you!
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>>173460797
>>173460701
her final ascension line references sex so yeah she's naked
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>>173468571
You're cutting down a lot of dialogue. Nobunaga is opposing his view because he wants some stagnant eternity and she views human life beautiful because it's brief and burns fast. She'll stop him because she feels responsible.

Goetia vs Solomon lite from another angle. As if we needed a reminder.
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>>173468743
It does? What's she say?
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Fun fact: Liz was in her fifties when she died and she had four kids.


She was also a fairly competent ruler aside from the gratuitous murder.
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>>173468915
So Carmilla
Shocking
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>>173468879
Just imagine, the original version of FGO was supposed to be about the evils of humanity as it was fully PvP, rather than "Humans can do anything, lets work together, yay".
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>>173468736
>That's why Solomon is #1 until his soul becomes unavailable for the position, and then it goes to Merlin who's the runner-up.
I don't think is confirmed that the one with the Grand title is always the stongest, though, seeing as KH threw away his title just because he wanted to. Maybe the ones qualified can refuse to become one.
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>>173468736
>you're still only second-rate.

Not him, but Merlin literally says everyone except him and Solomon are second rates. This includes Gilgamesh. He was very specific. And you're still wrong about how Gilgamesh Clairvoyance works. It's stated in Babylon he can only see the future. Strange Fake too.

Merlin cannot see "beyond his era" (the future). He doesn't know what happened to Arturia for her to change her mind, he can only speculate. It's straight in Garden of Avalon.
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>>173468915
That fact wasn't funny at all
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>>173468736
You seem irrationally pissed off.

>So you're so butthurt over an argument a whole thread ago that you felt the need to bring it up and dickwave about it?

No, it was a question, because it seemed a very strong claim for which I could only find a fourth-order "deduction" to a back it up, and it did turn out that's all it was. Now you're writing walls of text explaining how insulted you are while saying other people are angry.

Also, multiple people have already told you you're wrong about Gil's thing, chill out.
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>>173468915
Shehad multiple lovers since her husband was at war.
And an abortion rumored at 13.
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>>173469006
Nasu ditched the idea quickly because he wanted the Beasts.
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>>173468889
That tonight, you'll talk about world domination all night long. Naked.
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>>173465829
Of course
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>>173469064
Too bad, time for education!

>>173469117
Yep.
Good ol' nobility!

Least she earns her alignment.
I probably have shit taste but I find Liz cute.

Almost have her at rank 10 bond.
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>>173469094
Except you really came here out of nowhere trying to start an argument with walls of text. Don't try to pretend now. And no, he's not wrong. Until confirmed otherwise, one of the requirements for being Grand Caster is having Clairovoyance EX, and Gil has it.
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>search something specific on F/GO
>click the first link
>it's reddit so just going to bit back
>notice the guy in the opening post has the same name as someone on my friendlist
>know that I had to have added him from here

This place really is infected by redditers
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>>173468889
>You've shown diligence to get this far. This Nobunaga had underestimated you. Come then, draw near. The night is long, let us speak together of all that lies under the sky.
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>>173469058

>Not him, but Merlin literally says everyone except him and Solomon are second rates. This includes Gilgamesh. He was very specific.

Yes, he was specific. He said everyone without the same level of eyes were second rates.

>And you're still wrong about how Gilgamesh Clairvoyance works. It's stated in Babylon he can only see the future. Strange Fake too.

So they retconned it. Whoop de doo. He still observes other timelines in the future.

>Merlin cannot see "beyond his era" (the future).

Do you know what an era is? It's not just the present. It's actually a very long span of time, which, for Merlin, includes a long span of future.

>>173469094

>You seem irrationally pissed off.

So now you've reached the projecting phase of underage argumentation.

>No, it was a question, because it seemed a very strong claim for which I could only find a fourth-order "deduction" to a back it up, and it did turn out that's all it was. Now you're writing walls of text explaining how insulted you are while saying other people are angry.

Oh please. Breaking down your arguments and rebutting them line by line isn't 'walls of text.' A wall of text is >>173465212.

And deductions work if the evidence supports them. Which, you know, it does.
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>>173469575
I don't see how that's an invitation to fuck. She just wants to sit together naked all night chatting.
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>>173469417
>Except you really came here out of nowhere trying to start an argument with walls of text.

You seem really defensive on someone not swallowing your passing multi-step assumptions for confirmed fact. And that's not even the thing being argued regarding Gil.
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>>173468889
>To think that you would be so devoted. This Nobunaga, now sees you in a different light. What's the matter? Come closer. The night is long, let us speak of the world together...
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>>173469668
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>>173469332
I find her great too.
First max bond servant, level 96.
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Strongest demonic sword, equal to the strongest holy sword, when?
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>>173470002
Yep, soon I'll be a manager in addition to being a shoulder loli.
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>>173469687

>You seem really defensive on someone not swallowing your passing multi-step assumptions for confirmed fact.

This isn't even an argument, and Gil being a Grand Caster candidate isn't an 'assumption.' It's a deduction. One of basically the same number of steps as recognizing that Void Shiki is a Beast.

>must have Clairvoyance on the same level as Merlin or Solomon to qualify for 'strongest mage' according to Merlin or as Grand Caster according to Roman
>Gil has it
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>>173469668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6a8LjZROnU&t=1m47s

I dunno she sounds pretty lewd in her delivery versus all her other lines
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>>173470194
Swordsman chapter of EoR.
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>>173470196
>recognizing that Void Shiki is a Beast.
"Could be a Beast" would probably be a better choice of words than "is a Beast", in this case.
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>>173470196
>One of basically the same number of steps as recognizing that Void Shiki is a Beast.
This is where you gave yourself away.
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>>173468068
Reads like The Secret History by Procopius tbqh.
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Nero is best Saber.
Prove me wrong.
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>>173470194
Reminder that Sigurd will be written by Higashide.
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>>173470345

>"Only Beasts can have Independent Manifestation."
>"I'm just faking it so I don't count"

>>173470382

Seriously? You're going to claim this is utterly unfounded fanwank, too?
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>>173470650
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News when?
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>>173470650
I want to drown in her tits jesus christ.
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>>173470689
No proof!
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>>173470196
>One of basically the same number of steps as recognizing that Void Shiki is a Beast.

Precisely. As in, "This kind of sounds connected but we don't know the full details or if there's another explanation." Merlin acquired the same skill some other way and there's no telling how Void did it, but you just jumped all over the possible "maybes" and are claiming one really extraordinary explanation as fact. She's Void. Connected to the Root. That alone gives you a slew of possible explanations for why she has the skill but you just pole-vaulted all over them.

That's the problem with passing "deductions" based on extremely incomplete info as confirmed fact: people don't fucking know, but get way too attached to a claim and lose track of the fact that its certainty never went past "maybe."

So Void is one of the seven Beasts now for sure too? Are you also going to froth at anyone not taking that as definite fact?
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>>173470669
I haven't said shit about your autistic spat with the other guy about Gilgamesh, but yeah claiming that Void Shiki is a Beast is retarded.
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>>173470815
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>>173470650
Wrong.
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>>173470815
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>>173470656
Higashide helped Sakurai with the characterization of Sigurd in Bryn's flashback, if Higashide stick to that then he might not fuck up completely. I personally hope that he writes him in a similar way to how he wrote Adam in Tokyo Babel, it's really close to what Sigurd's current characterization is and it's one of the few things I considered well written by Higashide.
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>>173470669
>>"Only Beasts can have Independent Manifestation."
>>"I'm just faking it so I don't count"

You mean like Merlin?
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>>173470818
Blue has a swimsuit version, Red doesn't. Checkmate, Roma
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>>173471334
Soon.
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>>173471334
Blue doesn't have a Bride
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>>173471412
Sorry, but this summer the saberface slots are going to be occupied by Tituria and Okita.
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>>173471486
No!
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>>173458693
Fuck you.
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>>173471431
Lily is my bride tho
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>>173471431
Do you seriously want to start shit over which character has which versions with Artoria of all people.
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>>173458693
nigger
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Which Saber has the best butt?
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>>173471810
Sumanai.
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>>173471810
Rama
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>>173471880
This >>173471810
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>>173471810
Nero.
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>>173464358
It's pretty fucking funny.

I'm using him, Jeanne Alter and Archer Artoria to farm the red node right now. When I get to the last wave and trigger all the damage boosting skills, I always tap his first before going for the the other four, and he's still the last one to shut up.

Also, his NP just sounds ridiculous with how it gets cut mid-line like three times. It doesn't help that he streeeetches several syllables.
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>>173470656
Maybe, but it's not like that's a sure thing.
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>>173471810
Mordred
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>>173472119
Her ass is as flat and bony as that of her dad.
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>>173472119
But Mo-san's butt is the same as her chichiue's butt.
I mean I do like their butts, but still.
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>>173471663
They'll probably rerun Onigashima first before Saber Wars, the waifu hell is endless.
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does the chacha CE bonus effect stack?
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>>173472119
boar dick
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>>173470427
>Reads like The Secret History by Procopius

I missed the part where he calls Scat a massive slut who exhausts all the young men with her sexual appetite.
Guess I'll have to wait for Semiramis.
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>>173472596
Both the damage and point CEs stack multiple times, yes.
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What gachas are you most looking forward to /fgog/?
1. Semiramis
2. Byrn Re-ren
3. CCC
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>>173473321
>4. Save
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>>173473321
Bride.
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>>173472259
I probably started to think her butt was better because of all the nice hot pants arts
I still wish that would be her final ascension
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>>173473321
Mordred rate-up.
Summer rerun for Summer Mordred.
Summer gacha for more swimsuits.
Ere-chan.
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>>173473321
I want Waver for gameplay reasons, Merlin for that plus I like him, and I'm still butthurt I couldn't get Shuten so that too.

Considering the pattern so far, they've re-run the not-related-to-only-one-event limiteds on the "X Million Downloads" campaign, so next one might be Bryn or Merlin.
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>>173473321
1-Bryn never
2-Sigurd
3-MHX/MHX Alter
4-Shuten
5-Okita
6-Merlin
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>>173473321
Spooky grandpa
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>>173473321
Yoshitsune
Maybe Semi for ear-fetish reasons.
Otherwise, nothing in particular.
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>>173473321
Ere-chan
Sherlock
Swimsuit Martha (tfw still haven't even rolled regular Martha)
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>>173473321
>tfw a gacha addict and can't save
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>>173469153
Other way around. He ditched the idea when the format of the game changed to mobile, and then went "Shit, what do I make it about now". Then he picked back up the idea of beasts that he discarded ten years ago during FSN.
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>>173473321
King Hassan and Moriarty reruns.
And I guess hoping for something new and cool.
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>>173474168
Nasu: Back when this was still planned to be a PC online game, it was supposed to be a story where all of the players would be fighting against each other. I imagined it to be a game where the evils of mankind would be made clear from the players locked in combat versus one another. But that lost meaning once it became a smartphone game. It’s a device that’s closely tied to one’s daily activities, so I wanted it to be lighter and more optimistic. Not light-hearted, but lighter.

4Gamer: I see. It does feel rather burdensome to be facing humanity’s evils every single day.

Nasu: Right? That’s why I thought to make something that I always wanted to try out – a story about the history of mankind. I had to make something grand – especially since it was right after Fate/Extra, a story about a virtual spiritron world – or else there was no point. So first, I set “seven grails, seven eras” as the motif.

4Gamer: So that’s how the Grand Order started.

Nasu: Exactly. At this stage, I decided to make the title Grand Order, and brought out the once-rejected scenarios for the Beasts. Once that got decided, everything else flowed from that – if I’m going to bring out the Beasts then I should also tell the story of the end of the Age of Gods. If I bring up the Age of Gods then I should also bring up Solomon. So let’s make the core of the story about Solomon and Roman. And with that, the basic outline of the story got decided.
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>>173474048
>tfw the first three 4*s I rolled where all Marthas
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>>173474302
Why is this saint so lewd?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C85che-VoAAwwm_.jpg:orig
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>>173473321
The eventual ROTK event gacha with Guan Yu 5*
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>>173474264
>tfw no PC Fate Game where you unlock characters through hard work and skill and cosmetic micro-transactions instead of being at the gacha's mercy
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>>173474456
God wants his chosen saints and representatives to procreate, so he makes them extremely attractive and fertile.
This is also why Solomon is super handsome and had 1000 women that he was regularly fucking.
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>>173474682
>blessed by God to be attractive
>still no Jesus
When is handsome bearded Jesus going to pop up?
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>>173474870
He'll look like Johnny Depp and talk about how he wants to hang out with Buddha.
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Either the golden bar is huge or the whales aren't banging it as hard as usual. It'll probably hold another day at this rate.
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>>173473321
New: Loli witch and chocolate ass.
Re-rate-up: Merlin, King Hassan, MHXA.
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>>173474302
Meanwhile I get spooked by the cake so many times
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>>173474870
I never thought about this but... Shouldn't Jesus be like a final boss or something? I mean, the holy grail is a christian legend, mostly
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>>173475468
The 7th Beast will obviously be Jesus that's actually the Anti-Christ in disguise.
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>>173453954
>>173453647
Isn't Elizabeth Brave basically swimsuit version?
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>>173473321
Sigurd
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>Being a Delifag
Disgusting
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Post fat
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>>173473321
>CCC
>Sakura
>any other cute girls maybe
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I want a Chacha!
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>>173476069
She's just big boned
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>>173475774
Grand Lancer Nero will be the anti-Christ.
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I got BTFO'd by emulator bans, please don't unadd me /fgog/
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Does DW have any unmarried women I can seduce to get a job there?
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>>173476743
Tell name
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>>173476865
SAD, formerly Sadi
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Does the new steal NP of Alcides refers to his Third labour or is the EX NP?
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>>173476069
Young delinquent fat.
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>>173476937
Kek. I unadded you yesterday.
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so what tier is hijikata
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>>173477030
Seems to be the EX NP but we don't have a proof yet.
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Why does Gil have 2 birthday lines?
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>>173477156
easy 8.5, quite possibly a 9.0
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>>173477156
first 11.0
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>>173477156
EX tier.
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>>173476486
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>>173476743
Which one is you?
Deleting you right now.
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Will there be more backwater meme characters after hijikata?
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>>173477410
That's Merlin and Waver
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>>173477156
I can't properly judge yet since he has that damage boost. I'm guessing 7.5
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>>173465829
Yes I grailed both my son (Kintoki) and my Fate/Grand Husband (Tesla).
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So are we all in agreement about Nobu is best?
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>>173478416
FC? I also like Tesla in a non gae way.
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>>173478474
Nobuyuki is at that beautiful age between boy and man we don't see enough of in anime. He's /fgog/'s new favorite.
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>>173473321
Akkun!
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>>173478648
He's not better than Nobutank though, or Nobushinsengumi.
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So ded.
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>>173477604
>>imp
Damn, he got hit too huh.
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omg, they are reusing the sprites
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>>173479275
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>>173452712
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>>173479394
why fsn illya is perfect? prisma was a mistake

http://raw.senmanga.com/Fate-Stay-Night-Heaven's-Feel/24
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Wait, emus are really dead? I thought that someone found a way.
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>>173479567
Dual boot is the only way to play on a PC, anon.
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?!
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>>173479567
That was weeks ago and it was fixed, now DW changed how they detect stuff so ANRC doesn't work anymore.
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>>173479681
Is that something hard to do?
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I finally have a Helena!
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>>173479842
If you have to ask then it's probably too hard for you.
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>>173479842
Not really. Just search around. It's easy to find and learn.
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>>173479990
>>173479995
I'm fine with my tablet, I was just curious.
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>>173479275
All manga is shitty photoshop.
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>>173479915
>No navel window
>Would literally cover all my fetishes if she had it
So close to being perfect, but I can overlook it.
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>>173480516
Dump more Helena.
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Is Nobuyuki the most popular FGO original character?
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>>173479519
>>173479394
>>173479275
How was Nasu able to just go and create the perfect girl like that?
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Why is Nero so perfect?
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>>173480678
>Is (insert flavor of the month people are talking about) the most popular FGO character.
>Next month ask the same damn question over and over about the next character everyone is talking about because you're a goldfish.
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>>173477271
Your birthday just that cool
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>>173480648
I don't have any saved just this.
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Translate it weebs.
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>>173481107
Retard.
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Singles are not a meme.
Dickrolls are not a meme either.
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>>173480648
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>>173481107
>weebs
I'm sure you need an arab if you want someone to translate the Hassans
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In an HGW...If you dress Blavatsky all retro like a hippie, give her a banjo/shades/bandanna and get her to talk slang and lingo of those times...and maybe disguise Olcott and the flying books...

...Enemy masters will be driving themselves nuts trying to figure out who is this so-called "modern servant".

Isn't this misdirection sheer genius?
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Who do you lewd the most?
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>>173481462
wow......really.........made.....me.......think.......................
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>>173481482
Her >>173481294
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>>173480648
Don't forget to grail your Helenas, she needs more love.
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>>173480648
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>>173473321
-Agartha
-Swimsuit
-Shuten comeback
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>>173481482
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>>173481545
Because the whole smoke and mirrors dealing by capitalizing on the whole UFO craze a few decades ago would readily confuse other Masters.
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>>173476486
I want this
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>>173481462
>>
Who would you want to be cucked by?
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>>173482009
shirou
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>>173482009
Gilgamesh.
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>>173482009
You
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>>173473321
1) CCC
2) EoR 4
3) Parvati gatcha
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Better question, who do you want to cuck?
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>150k on blue team
>250k on red team
>no motivation to farm even if i have 250 golden apples

why?
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>>173482138
sita
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>>173473321
1. Another Gil version
2. Male swimsuits
3. Nobuyuki gacha
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>>173473321
Sherlock
Arthur re-run
King Hassan re-run
Agravain if he is ever introduced in the gacha, same with the samurai guy that appeared in the Musashi story (was he a Yagyu? can't remember)
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This bar's moving so slow
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>>173473321
>Apocrypha
Mostly for the chance of Avicebron. Even though I'm swimming in Casters, I just like the guys' design

>Bradamante gacha
The chinese general lady would be cool too

>Moriarty or Shuten rerun
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>>173482320
post more lewd things!
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>>173482009
Me.
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>>173482189
I have 3 accounts at 600k on both teams, you just need to find something to watch while grinding. I marathoned all available episodes of Legion. Pure kino.
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>>173481729
She'd give it away by talking about "Lemuria," but I'd love to see how long someone could pass Helena off as the Heroic Spirit Heaven's Gate.
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>>173482189
just get the ascension materials for chacha and call it there.
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>>173482189
Almost same here, 40k points less in blue. Instead of motivation I don't wanna spend any apples in this event, if necessary I'll wait until the last day.
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>>173482697
how much longer do we have until the event ends?

t. 500 apples
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What did these cups mean by this?
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>>173482657
No way i would skip summoning tickets

>>173482697
when will this end? i havent rolled at all because i want to save it for a lancer / assassin 5 star servant, hijikata isnt so good
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>>173482395
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Why do you people recommend this stupid shit again? I literally have no idea how Hitler and Polpot not winning their fight.
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>>173482904
Nobody recommend it aside from posting that shit for powerlevel meme
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>>173482791
>>173482732
10 days exactly.
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>>173482643
Well, if you do the whole 60's counterculture thing or the Americanized New Age stuff, then "Lemuria" doesn't narrow it down enough.

See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles_in_India

Also relevant figure from the era, Jane Roberts. Also smokescreening.
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>>173482973
should i roll? probably rolling 5 times hoping for event CE because the grinding is kinda obnoxious
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Feels like the drops went to shit compared to a few hours ago.
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Is this by Riyo, did he go to Japariket today?
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If cuckolding is my fetish who should I waifu?
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>>173482643
Helena did a huge thing with Lemuria but it was also taken by many people after so don't doubt there would be masters even thinking she is Lovecraft or someone like that

Lovecraft servant when?
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>>173483225
Tamamo or Nero, since they still want (You)/EXTRA's dick.
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odds fap
evens games

>>173483225
Nero.
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>>173482904
Me neither
I still have no idea how they died
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>>173483225
Nero
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>>173483225

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=62329618
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>>173483084
The shop will clear itself if you farm points.
>>
Has GO referenced the "Helena Blavatsky was Jack the Ripper" theory yet?
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>>173482904
They won though. And Pol pot killed himself together with hitler after that.
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>>173483084
rolled 5 times, 3 new 3 star CE, oh well

also how does the event point work? is it better to combine all 5 event CE so it only use 1 slot or use them separately?
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Would you?
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>>173483254
>>173483329
Isn't Nero monogamous though?
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>>173483225
Tamamo or Nero

>>173483349
What the fuck

>>173483397
What the fuck

Can you elaborate?
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>>173483225
Nero, Tamamo, Medb or Mata Hari.

Take your pick.
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>>173448462
Can I presume they will give us atleast 200k point for each faction after this story part right? Don't want to over-farmed.
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>>173483417
Each one is 30%. LB is 60%. It takes 5 copies to LB.

Do the math.
>>
Speaking of disguising servants

Is Altera identifiable in a HGW? Can't imagine linking a floppy rainbow colored sword to Attila the hun
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>>173483418
Yes
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>>173483225
Nero would do it for her husband, and has every fetish anyway. Or so she claims.
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>>173483504
100k for each faction at most.
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>>173483202
>RIYO
>R-18
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>>173483643
I guess the only reference would be if someone outright calls her sword the Sword of Mars
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>>173483432
She's trying to establish a harem in Extella. She's not great at staying monogamous.
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>>173483432
She has sex with other guy for fun in her harem
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>>173483643
>Can't imagine linking a floppy rainbow colored sword to Attila the hun

>Roma instantly recognizes it in Solomon Temple, other divine types recognized it quickly
>Its the sword of the war god Mars, which historically was noted to be a rainbow blade like that.
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>>173483521
unless i have more than 5, using several of them is better then?

also how's hijikata?
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>>173483437
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_the_Ripper_suspects

It's barely mentioned.Rhyme's dad is in too.
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>>173483756
God I love her.
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>>173483225
Sanzou
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>>173483809
Correct. Unless for some reason you can't use them all due to cost issues or because you want to use damage/drop CEs instead.
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>>173478489
It's 969,837,643
Happy to find another person who appreciates Tesla.
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>>173483773
What?
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>>173483756
With who?
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>Twitter feed has a ton of artist doing Cherry Blossom viewings right now
>We could of had a event of us fight in them right now with SAKURA Saber/have this as a excuse to do a limited Parvati Gacha

DW will always be a mistake
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>>173483817
Reading this just makes me want the superior Jack in the game already.
>>
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>>173483907
Sent, got the grailed grail in all.
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>>173484142
Keep crying nerd.
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>>173483084
>>173483521
oh god, why...

i just rolled 10 because i wanted event ce, got hijikata..

now i dont have the luck i needed when i really need relevant class SSR [missing Lancer / Assassin]
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>The evil Liang Shan Bo
Wait, what? The male lead from the Chinese Romeo and Juliet? He wasn't an evil mastermind by any stretch.

Is there a different Liang Shan Bo I'm not aware of?
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>>173482189
I'm at 130k/172k since I'm only farming with all Medusa CEs plus support with maxed Nobu.

I'll see about grinding points later once we get all the quests, but I see no reason to rush now.
>>
>Have Waver and Merlin
>Have 0 single-target Buster NPs above 3*
>Haven't pulled a gold servant since Merlin

Is this the true hell?
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>>173484535
You realize your problem is solved by picking a buster support right?
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>>173484243
Congratules on your Go Nagai reference. He's a good boy.
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>>173484243
Hijikata is a very cool edgy guy, and he has a natural bonus of 100% more attack if you use him in the event. Add his berserker class and you can kill faster.

He is a bit tricky to work with if you use him on a low level tho, but if you know how to make him survive and get him to keep low HP he hits like a truck with his NP, specially if you use it at the end of an NP chain.

I feel you though, I wanted the Nobu 5* CE and got him instead. It was a nice spook regardless.
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>>173484628
Hijikatan a best
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>>173484628
Would he work with nightingale? Or is that just overkill?
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>>173484590
That's what I do every time. Still sad that I don't even have a Herk.
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which FGO servant would be the hardest to identify in a grail war?
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>>173484789
Haven't tried it with Nightingale but I guess he can work fine with any Buster buffer. I remember anons saying he may not work well with Merlin because of his constant healing and Hijikata's NP gimmick, but so far Merlin has been a great help at letting him not-die at least.
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>>173484628
I'll trade you my Nobu 5* for him.
>>
Emiya Shirou 5* when?
>>
Which 40 AP is better?
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>>173484831
>Merlin & Waver
>Berserker
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>>173484789
He would work better with Merlin as a healer than Nightengale as a healer. Healing him is a slippery slope to begin with so might as well get that double attack up with Merlin.

Apparently he's best paired with Quetz because she gives him Guts status.

I wish he was more compatible with my designated zerk protector St. George... George does too good a job at protecting him. Not to mention George eats all my stars.
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>>173484963
F/SN already gave the answer to that. Emiya or any servants that came from the future.
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>>173484963
Edison. I mean, I hardly think of MGM just by seeing a white lion's head which in turn doesn't automatically make me think of Edison just because he invented films.
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>>173484615
>>173484628
i'm fairly grateful getting SSR but i need that luck for lancer/assasin class because i'm missing SSR on those class while i already have rad vlad for zerker, its max bond tho

i have merlin and waver, that should be enough to carry him i guess?
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>>173485053
Then what should I use with them? the only Buster servants I have in general are Drake, Cleo, and... Oh dammit, I do have Illya. Should I use her?
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>>173485132
High ponytail Tesla is good civilization.
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>>173484968
>>173485091
I'm sorry anon's but I don't have merlin and I have literally no riders. I'll have to leech off my friendslist
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>rolled Jack in the assassin class rate up
>no silver assassin pieces in the shop
Fuck this game
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>>173485248
drake is good, illya is garbage
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>>173484968
I'm actually happy that Hijikata is a servant that is pretty good by himself but who requires strategy to be a true beast. It's refreshing in a game where the cults of Merlin/Waver and Cu Alter/Jeanne Alter are all you need to breeze through any situation.
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>>173485213
>>173485374

Is more than enough even with a friendlist Merlin. I currently run with this team for farming ladder points and it works really nice. I sometimes even manage to use his NP on the Sphinx and 2 turns later overkill Helena. It requires that Nobu can use her first skill too though.
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>>173485546
May have specified that 2 turns later he refills his NP again to overkill Helena on an NP chain with Merlin and Nobu.

>>173485443
He is a glass cannon that abuses his glass status to hit harder, I find it quite cool too.
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>>173485374
Hmm, let's see.. the FP Gacha edition of Hijikata team could include Leonidas. He gives Guts as well as provides a Buster party up.

If you have a party member that can generate enough stars (around 40 per turn), you can stick him on a team with George without having to worry about George eating stars.

You could use Mozart's maxed Night Music skill for 50 stars on a hand where Hijikata can brave chain and watch a massacre. Then use George to protect both Hiji and Mozart for 3 out of the 5 turns that Night Music needs to recharge. Though, buster chains will be rare with this setup and Hiji will be the only one doing any real damage.

You could use Hans for Star Gen as well.
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>>173485546
i just tried hijikata, he do 250k NP on helena

what the fuck?
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>>173485417
Both Drake and Cleo are good bc star gen with buster NP.
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>>173485836
Kotarou might be a good star factory cos he has that targetable dodge
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>>173485983
Event bonus
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>>173485091
I thought the same about that pairing because of the targeted Guts. The only problem I have with that pairing is that Quetz is a Rider, which sucks all stars. Though besides that, it's a good pairing.
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>>173484142
>sakura Saber
>when this event already features sakura Saber
what did he mean by this?
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>>173485983
He has 100% attack bonus on this event, take into account he may not hit as hard outside of it unless you abuse him
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>>173485983
>only 250k

Mine does 430k
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>>173486135
MHXA may be good here to kill Quetz's hunger
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>>173486308
Quetz's hunger is too strong for MHXA's skill. It's not enough, sadly I've tried that already.
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>>173485802
Yeah it's a cool gimmick they gave him. It makes him a true berserker unit.

It's cool too that since he is known for his military tactics, there has to be tactics involved for him to shine as a unit.
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>>173486349
>Quetz's hunger is too strong for MHXA's skill

Well fuck
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>>173484968
Just for the event, I've been having fun using him with Emiya and Edison/Helena.

Hijikata's first skill just makes Emiya's UBW stronger and, combined with Hawkeye, shit out a ton crap of stars.

Helena helps buff, give NP and provides stars then you could switch in Eddy for an easy overcharge for Hijikata's NP or use Edison then switch Helena. Either way is fine.
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>>173486132
>>173486167
ah, so the real damage is around 125k then? It's still ridiculous though

also whats his 2nd skill do? i dont understand

>>173486216
how?
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Hicchan.
The Thinking Man's Berserker.
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>>173486715
Disengage, just like Cu's.
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>>173486715
His second skill removes any debuffs on him while healing a little bit. Is mostly to avoid him dying from any curse or poison and the like.
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>>173486715
clear debuff + heal
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>>173486812
Shinji and Nobu have nothing in common with those losers!
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There's a guy who did 8 million damage with Hijikata's NP but it's with 5 damage increase CE I think.
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av9661790/index_2.html
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Would you introduce your favorite Fate girl to your parents?
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>>173486891
>wakame ga ippai collection
Are you seriously telling me Shinji doesn't belong to his own category?
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>>173487259
She's too good for them.
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>>173487412
Translation: I already know they'd be disappointed.
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>>173487259
>when you introduce your mother to your mother
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>>173487485
motherception

we have to deeper
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>was getting 25000 points on average per go
>now getting about 6000 half the time
Fuck happened. First three Nobu's aren't dropping
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If you were in a HGW, would you introduce your servant to your parents?
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>>173487681
They would probably introduce themselved just like DUDE did
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>>173487681
As long as they don't mind her eating candy for dinner, sure.
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>>173487681
A. Are my parents Magi?
B. Do I live close enough to have to see them?
Might as well, anyway.
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>>173487681
No, I would order my servant to kill himself then go win the war by myself.
Why do I need a servant when I'm the strongest in the general
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>everyone drawing him
>including diehard waifufag artist

So this is power of fuccboi, not bad.
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>>173487840
Can you kill servants?
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>>173486797
>>173486824
>>173486832
thats pretty nice but hijikata is glass canon so hard that regular monster could kill him with crits, wtf
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>>173487681
>he isn't staying in a hotel for the duration of the HGW
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>>173488062
Yes
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>>173488072
Well yeah, if an enemy decides to crit your zerker of choice you are better off restarting the app or giving him a dodge/invulnerability/guts for the turn if you are sure he will get hit and killed. Hijikata is no different in this regard. If you have the options, I think guts is the best for him looking at both his NP and third skill gimmick.
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wait, you only get 4 point boosting event CE?
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No boss will become as meme'ed as the pillar demons.
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>>173487681
>He didn't kill his parents before other Master
Parents are for the weak
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>>173487485
>>173487549
>not bringing your mama to dinner with your mother so she can look her in the eyes while giving you a nursing handjob
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>Herc Alter's edge isn't okay
>Cu Alter's is
#BLthings
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>>173488525
>BLtards
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>>173488350
No
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>>173488525
Cu Alter is an in-universe fanfic wet dream

Herc Alter is supposed to be taken seriously
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How long did it take for DW customer support to contact all of you, /fgog/ ? It's been 4 days and counting for me.
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>>173488525
Cu Alter is not a Berserker+Avenger servant pack
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>>173488596
I've never fucked up enough to need to contact support.
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>>173488525
BL says that Jeanne Alter is over the top edge and that's great while at the same time saying Herc is over the top and that's annoying.
Which is ironic because Jeanne is complete tsundereshit and zero edge
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>>173488596
Keep waiting, filthy gaijin
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Odds do nothing
Evens use two apples
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>>173488596
You should've resent it by the two day mark.
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>>173488525
In what way Alcides is edgy or chuuni again? He's one of the most chilled motherfuckers in the whole novel. Maybe tied with Faldeus and Sigma. They have no idea what they're talking about.
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>>173488596
Not to bother you but 16 hoirs.

But it's the week end right now
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>Gil talks about Siduri in SF and calls her a mongrel
NARITAAAAAA
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>>173487886
Why am I slightly turned on by the bared belly and the fact that under that shirt are some cute boy nipples
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>>173489415
He calls everyone a mongrel, his Masters included. What's the big deal?
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>>173489486
He has never ever called an Uruk's citizen a mongrel. Even if he always uses it, it's still meant to be an insult.
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>>173489415
It's probably going to be excused as it's the time before he settled down to become the wise king and SF!Gilgamesh is the one that left on his journey and let the kingdom decline.
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>>173489415
So not only powerlevels, he's also fucking up Gil's characterization...
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>>173489365
Also outside of trying to piss Gil off to steal his NP and actually trying to win the war by killing masters he hasn't even been villan edgy
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>>173487681
Depends on the servant I guess, I would if he could pass as a friend and tell them he needs a place to sleep, for a girl it depends on whether she looks about my age or not.
If it is one of the old ones or a loli (I would be particularly careful with a loli), there is no chance introduce them.

However, I don-t live live with my parents so I don't see the point of introducing them a servant,
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>>173489374>>173489042
So if I want to re-send a request, I should send it tomorrow, right? Thanks for the help, by the way.
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New chuki
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>>173489837
>edgy means evil

I think you don't know what edgy means anon.
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When?
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>>173483432
Yes she is, she said so herself multiple times. People who claim otherwise are either memeing or fell for the meme themselves.
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>>173489415
I thought Gil called every human mongrel?
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If you summoned a servant sometime before the HGW starts, what do you do to befriend/earn the trust of your servant?
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>>173490828
He does, but it's offensive and means he hates them when we decide so.
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>>173490828
>Gil in UBW: "I don't want to reign over mongrels. I want people to be strong and live with a purpose like in my era"
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>>173490546
>monogamous
>has harem
>tries to harem rider in extella
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>>173490546
And her desire for a harem?
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>>173490871
Brush her hair and lean on her shoulder while listening to Wagner on a shared pair of earbuds.
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>>173491092
>>173491153
She means it in the memey anime sense of a group of pretty girls that crowd around her, not actual romantic partners.
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>>173491294
Uh-huh, sure.
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>>173491294
Yeah sure
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>>173491294
Anon...
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>>173491370
>>173491423
>>173491450
>thinking a character written to be the new face of the Fate franchise would be anything other than a monogamous vanilla moeblob
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>>173490871
>Please help me get over my cynophobia
Thank you childhood trauma
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>>173491507
>New face of the Fate franchise
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>>173491092
>>173491153
I like how cuckposter did manage to fool all you people with a single shitty screenshot posted a billion times. Here's a protip - that was a single line of dialogue in a single game where Nero said that she wanted to make a """harem""" of girls for Hakuno but when Hakuno tipped her off to what it actually means, she took that offer back instantly. In all seriousness, it goes against her entire characterization in the entirety of Extra series. Simply using Occam's razor is enough to completely erase that argument.
But of course, you don't care about that, and you wouldn't listen no matter what arguments are brought up. Cuckposting is more important, that's what this thread is all about. That's why no one is even bothering to respond to these claims at this point.
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>>173491507
Alright enoug with your fanfictions
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>>173491529
Cynophobia? Sounds like a bitch
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>>173491553
Or, you know, the moment Hakuno coughed and reminded Nero they were there Nero got embarrassed and tried to damage control, which is an entirely valid suggestion that you won't accept because it goes against your narrative of Nero being pure as the driven snow. Why the fuck would Nero of all people not know what a harem is?
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>>173491553
Why are you trying so hard and why do you blatantly lie?
Why does it matter that your 2D fictional character had and is having relation with others than your self insert?
If you want a pure character and not a slut there's plenty of waifubait in the franchise
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Best node for farming points? I assume 40 AP
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>>173491854
Yes.
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>>173491674
>reminded Nero they were there
Why would he remind Nero that he was there when she was speaking directly with him? Hakuno is always at her side in Extella for plot-related reasons, and she's not retarded to forget about that.
>which is an entirely valid suggestion
Yes, except that suggestion comes out of nowhere and, like I said, goes against everything else she does in Extra series (and especially in Extella). And unlike you, I don't need to make assumptions - I have actual examples. Like I said - use Occam's razor.
>>173491825
Nice argument.
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>>173491854
40AP (2). Point drops are horrible though even with 150% bonus you barely break 10k per run
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>>173490871
Bonding by sharing your irrational hatred towards the people you don't like.
Or maybe try to get the dude get over his problem and move on with his life.

>If Karna is around
Encourage him to shoot him again for more chances of winning

>Best(?) case scenario
Leave him alone.
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>>173491927
Nice argument.
Anons had those discussions countless times and you got proved wrong everytime. I'm not the cuckposter and I don't own any screenshot regarding this pointless matter but I sure did follow your debate and it was shown many times that nero isn't the pure waifu bait you're trying to trick everyone to believe.
I hope the cuckposter wakes up to prove you wrong once again
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>>173491927
The only one she loves, sure, but that doesn't preclude her from wanting a bunch of cute girls to fuck. And you still haven't answered how exactly Nero doesn't understand what a harem is.
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>>173491161
Bryn needs a hug.
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>>173492080
Point drops are not static though. The most I got was 25k points in one run.
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>>173491927
>I love you that's why you shouldn't care about me fucking others
Classic
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>>173492212
Then I have shit luck because I average 7-12k
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>>173492162
> I sure did follow your debate and it was shown many times that nero isn't the pure waifu bait you're trying to trick everyone to believe.
How so? Because I know that your God-Emperor Cuckposter did not have a single proof beyond that screenshot (and a completely bonkers argument related to the non-canon flash game). That's why it's funny how he managed to indoctrinate you people into believing his trite with no proof at all, simply because you WANTED to believe it.
>>173492167
>doesn't preclude her from wanting a bunch of cute girls to fuck.
Give me proof. Show me that harem, show me at least one other example of her trying to seduce any character in the game (besides the aforementioned screenshot that you love so very-very much). Give me anything worth a damn, I don't care about your pointless assumptions.
> And you still haven't answered how exactly Nero doesn't understand what a harem is.
Because she's a cartoon character, not the actual Roman emperor. She is what Nasu wrote her to be, and he definitely wanted her to be a waifu material that is loyal only to the MC.
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>>173467392
Well, she has the curves of a man, so he's not the only one.
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>>173492195
I'm just afraid I'll give her too many hugs. We might spend all our time walking hand-in-hand and doing other couple stuff when there's a HGW to fight.
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>>173492414
Nero was shown as cuckbait year before extella, newfag
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>>173473321
1. Martha Ruler
2. Semiramis (tfw most probably not even gonna try to roll her because she might be released too close to Martha Ruler, I hope she is not limited)
3. Musashi
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>Shamhat and Siduri hugging Enkidu
Cute.
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>>173492390
So what the hell is going on there? There is only some minor spoilers about servant abilitis and that's all.
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>>173492414
If you're asking for proof that she wants a harem and then giving absolutely no proof yourself that your argument that she doesn't even know what a harem is true, you're kinda shooting yourself in the foot. You're telling me to provide concrete evidence besides the screenshot that has her wanting Rider for her harem, because according to you that screenshot is invalid, even though you won't post proof of that and are going on assumptions.
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>>173490415
After Guan (You) and Archimedes so fuck off
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>>173492414
Go play her SGs in ccc.
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>>173492550
snap kills dumbledor
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>>173492550
That artist is an Enkidu fag
We all know how fucked Enkidu is at this point
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>>173492524
Where? In CCC, where she wears a fucking chastity dress?
>>173492562
>If you're asking for proof that she wants a harem and then giving absolutely no proof yourself
Here's another not-too-ambiguous screenshot (I have a lot of those). I would've gotten screens from that dialogue myself, but I simply couldn't be bothered to search where it actually happened. Unlike you, I don't really care about that argument very much, I know that I'm right because I've played the game itself. There are literally hundreds of other examples, but I'm not that fanatic about proving you wrong, you'll ignore it anyway. And I also know that it's pointless to argue with you people because you will always believe whatever you want to believe, ignoring all of the evidence at the same time.
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Reminder that Strange Fake is just fanfiction.
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>>173492839
La di da, the first person to share a bath of roses. Not the first person to see her naked or the first person she's ever wanted to fuck.

>I don't really care about that argument very much but I've screenshotted a bunch of things about the argument even though I don't care

Your screenshot doesn't prove that she doesn't know what a harem is, it only proves that Nero's never bathed with another person, nothing else. Find something that proves that she didn't know what a harem is when she mentioned it to Medusa, because that's the cornerstone of your argument.
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>>173492992
reminder that everything is fanfiction if you think about it
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>>173492839
>where? In CCC
That's why arguing with blind waifufag is pointless. We had thousand of arguments about nero being a slut but you just choose to forget them and stick to your headcanon while denying facts shown before.
That's fine I guess, it's just a fictional 2D character
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More grails when?
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>>173493050
>Not the first person to see her naked or the first person she's ever wanted to fuck.
I suggest you studying Ancient Roman culture. Back then, bath were... quite a place to be.
> Find something that proves that she didn't know what a harem is when she mentioned it to Medusa, because that's the cornerstone of your argument.
I'm not trying to argue that she doesn't know what a "harem" is. What I do try to say is that Nero's loyalty to the MC is just as boundless as Tamamo's. She would never even flirt with anyone behind your back, let alone have sex with them. Whatever she does, she always shares it with Hakuno, they are practically inseparable. It's the same story with Tamamo, except even more obvious. The romance in Extraverse is as vanilla as it gets.
>>173493139
>We had thousand of arguments about nero being a slut
I wish you had as much examples as you had arguments.
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>>173493239
By the end of this event
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>>173493301
>quite a place to be
And yet, no concrete proof like you're asking us for. You're just expecting us to take things at face value. Also, here's a tip, regardless of the culture, people are going to fuck in more than one place. Nero not sharing a bath with anyone else doesn't at all preclude her from ever having sex.

>I'm not trying to argue that she doesn't know what a "harem" is.
> that was a single line of dialogue in a single game where Nero said that she wanted to make a """harem""" of girls for Hakuno but when Hakuno tipped her off to what it actually means, she took that offer back instantly.

So, what is the truth?
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>>173493334
I don't think we are gonna get a grail honestly.
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>>173493301
>please rewrite all the arguments we had before so we can have them again
>and I will ignore them again the futur
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>Servant Gil is stronger than Gil when he's alive
Explain this bullshit
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>>173493429
>And yet, no concrete proof like you're asking us for.
The proof is - no one has ever shared a bath with her. Can you argue against that? No.
I would also remind you that sex is never mentioned in Extra, ever. The game's rating would not allow that. And yet you suggest that Nero had thousands of sexual partners despite her getting flustered and embarrassed even by the smallest physical contact (in both Extra and Extella), as well as swearing undying loyalty to Hakuno in both love and war multiple times. Don't you see a giant leap of logic here? Don't you understand that your NTR fetish goes against the very essence of the game? I bet you would've argued that Artoria was cuckbait if Nasu didn't go out of his way to mention her losing her virginity with Shirou and having a loveless political marriage with Guinevere.
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>>173493782
Some servants gain things in death.
Take Lancelot in example, I don't think he had KoO or FSG When Alive, but he has them as NP's as servants. There's also literally every writer servant who gets boosted by the class container.
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>>173493782
That mean he is weakshit like writers that gain buff with servant container
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>spend apples in my spare time to wrok on mat farming
>got 750k Nobu and 700k Shinsen Points and all mats and things except chains, pieces and monuments
I never expect I can end this mat hell so soon.
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>>173493782
He's not?
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>>173493852
I notice you're ignoring the fact that you lied about what you were actually arguing about. And that concrete proof you're waving around? It proves that she never fucked in a bath. That's it. You still haven't proven that Nero doesn't know what a harem is, and if you can't, then that means that Nero outright wanted a pretty girl to fuck on the side while loving Hakuno. I'm not suggesting she loves anyone else, just that she wants pure physical pleasure from attractive women as well.
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>>173493487
>demon pillar
>"b-but why would there grail

They couldn't have spelled it out more
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>>173494012
Demon doesn't equal Grail
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>>173493857
KoO is a NP in the berserker class because reasons. It's usually a skill, as depicted in the Saber class
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>>173493782
GoB had less stuff back then.
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>>173494070
We've had NP's used as skills before in F/GO, just to let you know.
It's probably still an NP.
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>>173493852
>I would also remind you that sex is never mentioned in Extra, ever.
She laughs at Rin for being so inexperienced after she's done with her, retard. She mocks Liz for being a virgin.
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>>173493941
He is. He needs to die in Babylon to be useful in the fight. He couldn't even face Garudas on his own.
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>>173494240
That's because he's CasGil, not Archer Gil.
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>>173493852
>I would also remind you that sex is never mentioned in Extra, ever.
Besides the part where Rin/Rani have to fuck your Servant?
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>>173493951
> I'm not suggesting she loves anyone else, just that she wants pure physical pleasure from attractive women as well.
Read how that went in Extra, when Rin was doing a mana transfer. Do you really think that THAT Nero would fuck random women? Or how about that kiss event when she almost had a heart attack over something so simple? Nero in Extra is all talk - she loves to brag about herself, but in reality she's very emotional and, for the lack of a better word, "pure" when it comes to love. She gets flustered of the simplest of compliments and her image of love is extremely vanilla - Nero Bride proves it well.
You're suggesting that Nero NTRs Hakuno with someone else. I say that that's ridiculous because Nasu went out of his way to prove otherwise multiple times with both Tamamo and Nero. He did it even more extensively with Tamamo because of her background but with Nero there was no reason to do that - she never even had children or a marriage. And again, look at Nero Bride.
>>173494181
In that event, you can go to the first floor and peek at what's actually going on. Rin was definitely not the "inexperienced" one, I can assure you.
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>>173494280
>he's CasGil,
He was fucking ALIVE in Babylon.
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>>173494331
>Do you really think that THAT Nero would fuck random women?
Absolutely? It's Nero.
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>>173494123
It literally comes from his skill of handling non-weapons to defend himself in combat you retard, it's a skill
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>>173494330
Yes. No one ever talks about what was actually going on behind the door and you don't see anything beyond the sprites and dialogue, that was part of the joke. Tamamo also breaks the fourth wall multiple times on that subject.
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>>173494280
He wasn't a Servant in Babylon retard. Until he dies in the end.
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>>173494280
Gil is Gil in Babylon.
He isn't in class container because he is alive and well.
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>>173494438
>Until he dies in the end.
Your a moron and a shitposter he was never a servant
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>>173494408
It's an NP based off the fact that he handed non-weapons to defend himself in combat.

There's no Skill in fate that enables you to turn items in NP's, If it just enabled him to use weapons of any sort, fine, but turning anything into an NP seems completely unheard of.
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>>173494386
And that's the problem. Your image of Nero is incorrect because you haven't played the games themselves. Like I said, Nero is all talk - that's why it's easy to assume things when you don't see what's actually going on when she gets to act.
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>>173494485
God, you're a fucking idiot. He was a Heroic Spirit in the end, a Servant after he died.
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>>173494503
>There's no Skill in fate that enables you to turn items in NP's, If it just enabled him to use weapons of any sort, fine, but turning anything into an NP seems completely unheard of.
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>>173494331
I'm not suggesting she's NTRing anyone, just that she wants to fuck other attractive women. You still haven't given any concrete proof that she didn't know what a harem meant when she mentioned it to Medusa.
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Happy birthday Melt!
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>>173494529
your image of Nero is incorrect because you don't know history you nigger
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>>173494559
Isn't that his NP m8?
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>>173494603
Oh nevermind, you meant "skill". I'm dumb.
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>>173494573
Not even that guy but Real life history has almost no baring on their fate counterpart.
We have shit like King Arthur being a woman and Scathach turning into a god of the underworld.
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>>173494569
Melt for the next OP, please.
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>>173494549
>He was a Heroic Spirit in the end, a Servant after he died.
No he wasn't
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>>173494665
Oh and what he was? He was killed retard.
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>>173494567
>I'm not suggesting she's NTRing anyone, just that she wants to fuck other attractive women.
Well, that's a different story altogether then. I won't argue with that - Nero admires beautiful women (not sure about beautiful men though, that was never mentioned beyond her introduction in the original game) and she admits that. I don't see a problem here since I admire beautiful women too so I can relate.
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>>173494661
melt thread
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>>173494653
Divine Spirit isn't a god.
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>>173494653
>Real life history

>King Arthur
>Scat
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Chacha got overshadowed hard.

Literally no nip gives a shit if she's sacrificed.
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>>173494770
Real like counterparts then.
I just threw out examples that are wildly different from the normal "Historical" version about their mythology.
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>>173494569
Wait, that crotch plate doesn't have anything that goes inside of her, so how the hell does it stay on its place?
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>>173494653
>Scathach turning into a god of the underworld.
Divine Spirit, which is leagues weaker than a true god.
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>>173494691
Gilgamesh, King of Heroes. Appearing over here because it's really causing a ruckus.

What, it's gotten this far. Surely this bit of breaking everyone's expectations should be acceptable as well.

Gudako:

...Your majesty!

Mashu:

Your Majesty King Gilgamesh! You're alive and well!

Gilgamesh:

Hmph, who said I don't know how to read the situation? Of course it's self-evident.

After all, this is the underworld. Surely small things like these are possible.


And later

Ishtar:

...Let's change the topic and talk about something else.

That Kinpika over ther.

What did you do?

What the hell was that?

Gilgamesh:

What's so surprising about it? I fell into the abyss of death!

I just tried a bit harder and brute forced my way a bit.

After all, that body was the same one that managed to fall into the abyss and enter the underworld, the same one where I was looking for the herb of immortality.

In other words, it was me at my full power.

...Since I didn't have my body anymore, I had to somehow hide my way from Ereshkigal and figure out some way to let you see my true form, even for just a bit.

Hmph, if you've managed to come to Uruk yet you've never seen the body of the King of Heroes, surely that is very, very unfortunate.

Gudako:

So... your body's gone. You're ... a ghost?

Gilgamesh:

Yeah, something like that.

But, pay it no heed! I have already said my farewells to you.
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>>173495039
>What's so surprising about it? I fell into the abyss of death!
This means he died, idiot. He even disappears as all Servants do in the end of Babylon.
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bake
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>>173495181
Of course he's dead but he's not a servant he's a ghost at full power
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>>173495039
Why are you posting shit of the middle of the story? Gilgamesh dies in the end shielding you from Tiamat and comes back to fight as a Servant who is stronger than he was when he lived.
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>>173495258
>Why are you posting shit of the middle of the story?
That's the end moron does anyone even read the story
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>>173495249
>he's a ghost at full power
SERVANTS ARE GHOSTS RETARD.
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Make it a Melt OP.
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>>173495323
If they are, why does Shiki mention them separately? Checkmate, atheist.
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>>173494653
You forgot the best one Altera the Hun being a fucking alien
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>>173495249
What do you think Servants are? They are materialized ghosts.
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New fresh content,old same shitpost
Never change /fgog/
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>>173495323
>all ghosts are servants because I'm wrong other wise
not like Enkidu hasn't already said Gil EA was stronger when he was alive but yeah Gil totally weaker alive
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>>173494737
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>>173495464
>strange fake is canon
here's your (you)
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>>173495323
Yes because being a servant is so surprising holy shit your just like the other 100 servants we met how can this be
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>>173495548
Atleast your making it blatant your shitposting
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>>173493782
Because, simply, legends make people stronger than they actually are thanks to how people like to romanticize and dramatize stories. It's these legends/fame that makes them strong and could potentially morph a person to something stronger than they are.

Like, there was no way Alexander had an RM in real life or pretty much all of Vlad.
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>>173495712
>Replying seriously to shitposting with false information
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>>173495353
I 2nd or 3rd that.
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>>173489415
Weird. But it's probably this case >>173489769
What's the context about said scene?
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>>173495712
Some servants are actually stronger in live like Siegfried and Cu.
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>>173495749
Can't beat hate with hate or shitpost with shitpost. You have to end the cycle.
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>>173495712
>Siegfried forgot his own fight because of this and lose 50% of his shit because ???
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>>173495798
It's pretty much all the old servants also if their Jack of all trades
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>>173495975
>>173495975
>>173495975
>>173495975
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>>173495940
Poor cu and herk
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>>173495798
Isn't that mainly due to the container itself and not due how legends twist people's existence? I'm sure if you get more special containers, you could get forms of them that were even stronger than they were when they were alive.

Like Alter Cu although I don't know if that guy's actually stronger than the original Cu.
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>>173489415
Is this shitposting or is Narita butthurt Gil changed into a decent king thanks to Siduri while he was an asshole with his mud fuccboi around?
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>>173496116
Why would Narita be butthurt about it? He said on twitter he liked the Babylonia chapter and he was going to change some stuff in volume 4 because of it.

And Gil changed to a better king mostly because of himself after Enkidu died. Siduri helped him with the kingdom and became his right hand but it was mostly Gil's journey and returning from it that changed his view on how to rule and become a better king.
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