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>2.6: Legacy
https://www.pathofexile.com/legacy
>3.0: the Fall of Oriath
https://www.pathofexile.com/oriath
>Offline Skilltree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Offline Build Planner
https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/8R2HQiuu
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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@wooper#0479 stop posting
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yup, still cant kill izaro on my 91 vaal fireball elementalist.
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shitbirds fuck off
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THIS IS MY DESIGN
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>>173357734
>free
>>173358709
>FREE
>>173359561
>free
>>173366101
>free
>>173366249
>free
>>173370318
>free
>>173371212
>free
>>173382190
>free
>>173387548
>free
>>173415143
>free
>>173416671
>free
>>173420420
>free
>>173424449
>free
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^retard
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would you
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name one thing you care about and ill tell you why its stupid and pointless and youre gay
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>>173440406
i care about you, anon
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thank you based free poster
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how's my build looking?

>criminally underutilized HIEROPHANT because im not a spell casting bitch inquisitor
>huge phys damage ON TOP OF phys to lightning conversion
>almost 100% with BRAIN RATTLER
>passive 50% chance to shock MORE WITH JEWELS
>ele pen, outrageous ele weapon damage
>MoM life/es hybrid with 77% resists w/ no auras
>1.4m theorycrafted dps
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>it says here on your resume that you have no IIQ
>do you think you could explain that to us?
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you holdin up in there, exiles?
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>>173440638
uuuh but I have bisco's collar
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>1 female 1 numale 1 tumblrite and 1 normal guy
am i interviewing for google or something lol
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>>173440674
post Lammy
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God bless you on this fine day Exile.
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>>173440881
is he wielding a chober chaber?
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>>173440563
keep it up champ
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i tried to get hired by mc donalds but they said i was overqualified to flip burgers

so now i'm sitting at home playing poe all day
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>out of cromatics
>made some funky purchases, even if they were cheap
>still have to switch to CI and replace gear
>no currency
>still have to to labs
>not even done with a3 merc
>will to play decreasing
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retard
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>>173440881
> God
Soon, I'll personally kick his ass.
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>>173441027
Dude, I'm in a similar position.

Dude!
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> lists a good item cheap
> never bothers to answer or invite to sell it
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>>173440994
looks like chober chaber, voidbringer and glowless ashrend
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>>173442390
hmm yeah i wonder why that might be
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>>173439875
theh ell is that
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>>173440881
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Shrapnelshot, point-blank, chin sol build.
What ascendancy do you think would be best?
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>>173443430
Elementalist.
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Is "+X to chest level" a desirable mod in arcanist/artisan strongboxes? Because currency drops are clearly much better as you move on to higher level areas
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>>173443518
get lvl so you can have the chance to not drop a skyforths
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what's wrong with pizza?
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>>173444108
fireball and bladeflurry cucked it.
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do jewels like this sell
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pretty much everything
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>>173442841
You never watched Hannibal?
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>>173444361
what season is that from?
I want to watch this episode
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>>173444351
that's 1 chaos
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>>173444509
no memes?
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>>173444481
Season 1, episode 9
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>>173444534
pricey jewels are shit like aspd and 4x crit multi
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>>173444658
basically anything with minion damage and increased ES is worth around 1ex
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>>173444658
ah okay, thanks
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>kill a t15 map boss
>get a t3 map
fuck whoever allows this
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without bad drops there would be no good drops

no one wants to play a slot machine that lets you win every time
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>kill a mob
>don't get shavs
fuck whoever allows this
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im not saying it should be a guaranteed tier upgrade drop

i'd just rather get nothing if its going to give me a white map

they shouldn't even be on the loot table
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I'd play those slots all day
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>>173445261
>no one wants to play a slot machine that lets you win every time

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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What's the highest supported resolution? I'm at 1440x900(old as fuck monitor but my rig is fairly new) and it feels like I'm not seeing enough.
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>win
>win
>win
>win
>win
wow, what a rewarding game
reminds me of a certain sequel to diablo 2
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if you don't want to see shit drops

hide them on your lootfilter
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y'all niggas gay lmaomaoomamoamomaoamoomamooamoamoaomom
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omo
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>>173445354
>they shouldn't even be on the loot table
hide them from your loot filter then

why are you crying bout something you can fix in 10 seconds? do you realize the amount of junk you hide on a map basis?

from my point of view, rare claws shouldn't even be on the loot table but I don't cry about them because they're just hidden and might not even exist
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you realise that actual slot machines outside in the real world give money right spastic
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>>173445628
4096x2160
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>>173445991
you realize they don't let you win every time right
you realize people still play them right
you realize people like gambling right
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right more like left
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we arent leftists here
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>implying
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you realise how fucking based it'd be if you found a slot machine that did nothing but let you win right f u c k h e a d

get better analogies
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someone's right is always someone else's left
meditate on that
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except you don't play video games for the purpose of making real life money (or you let bots or chinese slaves do that for you) so your real life angle completely fails logic wise

a slot machine that lets you win (something that isn't real money) every time would be boring after 5 seconds
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im not the one who used a real life example as an analogy
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I don't think you understand the point of analogies then
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alphabet soup is my favorite color
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colour
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$1 to pull the lever
you win $1 every time you do it
do you play this slot machine?

fucking retard
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i dont think YOU understand the point of analogies
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https://clips()twitch()tv/PiliableFrozenBeeCmonBruh

Oy Vey!
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the fuck is that link
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>>173446490
What food is Path of Exile?
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i'd play that machine
if there was a bar nearby and I could have my drinks at the slot machine
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then you're nothing more than a glorified monkey and your time is worthless
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it is
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anyone else making the move to vegan after all this
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so Im gonna play some of the Hardcuck Autism League (SSFHL), and Im wondering:

does bladefall + poison + mines still work?
or did that nerf to its targeting really kill it?

also:

ED, bladeflurry, SRS or pizza totem?
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bladefall mines are shit now, mine damage modifier from tree no longer double dips for poison and the targetting is also shit now yes

play what you want, if you can't plan a solid build yourself, you don't belong in ssf
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its not really about planning,
I just cant decide which one of these lovely builds I should play.
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>>173447313
jesus christ that nose
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flameblast totems or srs are the strongest builds from that list from a ssf perspective
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mfw i 6link something in <200 fus
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mfw I spam 2000 fus and get nothing
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baked is truly our guy
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Which female exile would make the best futanari?

Which male exile would make the best cuntboy?
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Is there any point on playing on a party/having a guild? Not sure if social interaction can be something useful.
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>>173447313
my sides
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>>173447313
jesus christ that nose
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>>173448932
Spread the knowledge of meme builds and talk shit while levelling.

Feels pretty okay.
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is there any point in human interaction
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Reminder that Vorici 6-links for 1500 fusings every time
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obligatory
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Vorici please leave.
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Reminder 1500 is way more than you should pay for a 6link
If it takes more than 1000 it means you haven't bought enough supporter packs
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possibly the most shitcrow screenshot i've seen all week
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>>173447431
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>>173447313
no joke that guy used to be in my friends list i thought he was your regular 20-something white male, not a 40 year-old jew with a kid
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>>173448932
>is there a point in having a guild with rl friends
gee I dont know. But to be fair, its only because I know them, otherwise I would play ssf or something
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if you don't get it in 1000 fusings your RNG seed sucks and you should make a new account
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>>173449519
i wish we could go to back to a time when americans didnt have to specify white
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>>173449804
Like 10 years ago?
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I wish I could go back in time and have slaves. Who the fuck decided to stop doing that.
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>>173449847
you werent this cucked even 2 years ago
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>>173449880
You wouldn't be able to afford them.
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I wish we could go back in time and just not bring any of those niggers to this continent.
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well
yeah
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>>173449991
I would
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I wish I could go back in time and abort myself
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whats a good tremor rod build?
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I wish I could go back in time and fuck cavesluts.
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fartfowl get out

/poeg/ is strictly for elite HC SSF players
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why is everyone here such a pathetic depressed loser
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welcome to 4chen
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remember to hydrate yourself

dont be a zizaran, start TODAY
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tfw xp is going well then you just suddenly die twice in really quick succession and lose any urge to keep playing
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>>173450717
I'm HCSSF no macro xbox controller CRT monitor 800 x 400 resolution dial up master race

Does this /vg/ even fucking try?
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>>173449995
https://my.mixtape.moe/ttdamm.webm
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>ywn prep haku before he goes balls deep in piety's malformed pussy
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>>173451239
>malformed pussy
kek
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>Malformation map
>Piety throws a red meatball at me
>Get stunlocked and go from 8k ES to 0 over the course of 3-4 seconds

I fucking love Path of Exile™
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>>173451665
nigga what the fuck the meatballs are slow as fuck
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neither of you are niggers so why did you type nigga
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if you ever respond to my posts in any form ever again I will destroy you this is your only warning
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>>173451758
I was staying close to her to anticipate the laser, I learned my lesson.
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leagues feel dead as fuck right now
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>>173451984
:^)
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>>173452038
>leagues

You mean HC? SC is popping right now.
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Anybody remember Kripps last build? The Blade Flurry Berzerker? Could it use Cleave effectively?
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did 1 t15 and got 5 lair of the hydra maps
wtf I need the other guardians
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>>173452535
>did 1 t15 and got 5 lair of the hydra maps
what the fuck
are you a MF build or something
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if i corrupt a t16 can it turn into a t17?
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yeah
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>>173452576
no, I have 10% rarity. It was an 8mod shaped courtyard

And I've been doing mineral pools/shrines all day trying to get a stupid abyss to drop
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>put up a max roll witchfire brew for 55c
>some fucking scummy south american whispers me asking if i can do 45
what erhe fuckk REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>173451665
>Update
>get stunlocked
>8 ek ES
???????? nigga what the fuck are oyu doing, chayula is fucking cheap
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neither of you are niggers so why did you type nigga
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>>173452576
>are you a MF build or something
By the way, quantity DOESNT work on map drops so there's no way to influence that other than pack size. Yeah, fuck you devs, no fun allowed.

>>173452535
congrats, you just made a ton of chaos
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>>173451186
do you play on wifi with 4 default tabs
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>>173453235
>By the way, quantity DOESNT work on map drops so there's no way to influence that other than pack size
that is lame as fuck
I was thinking about jumping on the MF golem meme too, this dimishes my urge to do so somewhat
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>have badly rolled vov listed for 60c
>white nigger from russia "hey pls can u sel 4 45c?"
>3 minutes later "hey pls 50c"
>10 minutes later "final offer 55c"
>accept party invite, open trade, put flask up, afk for half an hour
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nice player interaction blog
really fascinating to read
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no one fucking cares
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>>173453235
I like how the maps are worth more than the fragments. I don't know if I want to sell these or run them
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>>173453451
I don't use stash tabs. I put all my gear on mules. When I need to xfer it over I join a lake party, drop items on ground, then switch characters as fast as I can.
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how I picture freeposter and all his discordshit friends to act IRL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AqgELJSF2Q
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>>173452535
they won't drop unless you unlock them or do a map linking to it though
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>>173453235
item quantity on the map itself boosts map drops inside that map though
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>>173453834
me in the vid
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>>173453834
me in the blue :3
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>>173454708
do you want to see my collection of rare pepes
I have over 300 of them
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http://plays
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defend this death, hardcucks
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dying is for retards
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For a generic ST character, is .4% of phys' damage leeched as mana enough to sustain it? Assuming no pots/clarity/lots of mana from tree.
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whoa... so this is the power of chaos inoculation... not bad...
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no because you're doing ele damage as spooky toss retard
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He would have lived if he had health flasks.
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>>173455523
Nope. Phys.
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then your build is shit
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>play meta build
>wow ur such a fag
>play non-meta build
>wow ur such a fag
/poeg/
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win a hc demi or reach rank 1 of any hc league then you can no longer be called a fag
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>not playing cyclone
not meta
ethical as fuck
relatively cheap
can clear endgame
FUN

You have no excuses
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>play cyclone in previous leagues numerous times each league
>no word
>one time I want to use ST get called shit
k
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>cyclone
>not meta
mathil plays it every league
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can you get off manlethil's dick for once
fucking hell nigger
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>>173456691
tbqh I would like mathil on mine
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guys wanna hear about my off meta build
it uses blade flurry and the added chaos gem
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phys st is shit
go ele
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whats a good aurumvorax build
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>>173456853
nice meme dude
which guy are you in >>173453834
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>antifa
kys
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>>173456853
is that guy or girl
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what? this is my first time posting here
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>>173456834
But I want the following,
fast
poison (never tried it before, should try it once before 3.0)
raider (fast)
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don't like
you're my friend
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>>173456853
Open your stash and destroy all your items, that's the equivalent of making a build around it.
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>>173457290
then use a less shit skill
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>>173457194
looks like an elf
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>>173457354
Nice meme.

Checking the poe builds website, there are a handful of very high level using poison ST pathfinder. I'd go Cleave but that is mostly red sockets on an eva chest (QotF) So poison ST seems good for now.
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dual apeps builds that aren't utter garbage
go
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Should French leafs be burned at the stake?
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surely you mean """"french"""" leafs
and yes
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no but pajeets should
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Fuck the French.
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leaf leafs should be burned, quebecois are bro-tier though who deserve their own country
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Logging out is French in its very nature. Instead of fighting, you're just surrendering and running away from combat.
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we're all running away from real life here
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quebecois only deserve their own country so that burgers can invade another country
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thats a strange way to talk about the people who won you your countrys independence
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Why is leveling so painful without the exact specific leveling uniques and perfect softcore damage nodes to back it up?

Every character i've ever played has taken more than 20 hours to get to merciless act 4.
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>>173456419
Which cheap cyclone build can beat shaper and guardians? Mathils starforge build?
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A KING OF SWORDS IS NOTHING
IF HE CANNOT DEFEND HIS CROWN
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>>173458370
disfavour
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>>173458392
daresso is honestly the hardest boss in the game
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map stash tab when
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>>173458392
heh. looks like that egg got cracked. heheheh
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>>173458320
Because you need to get some balls. Grab the all damage nodes first and hopefully have 2k hp by merc Piety.

Kind of makes leveling more enjoyable, imo.
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>twinned daresso with increased area of effect and boosted attack speed
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>>173459078
I don't get it.
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>>173459118
i always do

except i can never break more than 2k dps before merciless

i always end up going back to 6 link firestorm and off-screening my way to dried lake
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>2k dps
u wot
i just hit 10k dps with magma orb and just a nyctas lantern in a3 cruel
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>1k dps of one skill is the same as 1k dps of another
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yeah it is retard
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my current level 97 character regularly runs t13-t15 maps with less than 15k tooltip
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uuuh guys which is heavier 1 kilo of feathers or 1 kilo of steel?
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>guise why does my EA only do 5 DPS wtf???
>my friend who does 5k DPS with a different skill does the same clear speed and damage as me
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who mentioned tooltip
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>>173459986
Steel.
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1 kilogram of steel thrown into your face will fracture your skull and kill you instantly

a 1 kilogram bag of feathers thrown into your face is just a real life prank
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even if it isn't tool-tip, skills have mechanics. if you think x# DPS is the same for every skill, why choose anything? coincidentally you always pick what is meta. retarded fuck.
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How long does it take to level/gear/play this game at top tier?
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Steel got to level 100 SSFHC in about 10 days
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What about feathers?
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It would take feathers about 100 years to accomplish the same
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steelmage is a cuck faggot
fuck him and fuck australia
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did an australian chad steel your gf or something
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>playing Torchlight 2
>turns out armor and resistances are additive instead of percent based, so they are literally just worse versions of health and health is always better in all circumstances

Wow, and I thought GGG fucked survivability up.
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>TL2
What an awful game. I tried to play it quite a few times over the years but holy shit it's boring as shit. And yes, even with "the best mods" it's the same game just with extra shit. And yes even with friends it's shit. No one even liked it.
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for endgame you're meant to get straight damage reduction i think
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It really is absolute garbage
They had a good game how'd they make it worse
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I remember when people were hyping that game up around the time when people were upset about Diablo 3.

I guess stuff like this is why it kinda died down after it came out.
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how many years of drug abuse to you have to go through to sound like bobslop
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only took 150 fusings :^)
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It pissed me off so much when I realized that resistances were completely and utterly fucked in that game. I had actually kinda enjoyed playing through the game, but that ruined it for me. What the fuck were they thinking? How could they have not realized that they were had fucked their entire stat system?
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>>173462326
do your breaches you dumb turd eating mongrel
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>>173462540
when I level. I don't want to die and lose my XP. I'm almost 70
I really just want to get my fucking guardian maps first and kill shaper
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i watch twitch streams 6 hours a day
i've lost control of my life
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Tempted to buy two Void Batteries and go full shitcrow/Methil on DPS.
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what the fuck what do you do the remaining 6 hours when you arent sleeping
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jack off then run some t10s and drink beers
my life is shit
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>>173458392

>a4n
>less than 1k life

why
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>>173463938
speedrunning

you gotta go balls deep in dps and no life nodes if you want to be fast like him
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>>173464007
>if you want to die like him
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wait what
people have more than 1k hp by a4 cruel?
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shit b8
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>>173464007
i dont think that works using FS

a full damage build would have daresso permanently on his healing stages
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>>173458712
>play WI
>do Daresso
>no framerate and can't see any of the swirling blades (not like anyone can see them in the first place) in that whole mess
>embrace the sweet taste of death
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just stand next to him and leech through it faggot
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What's up with people listing items in poe.trade with no price and freaking out saying you're a scammer when you ask them for a price? Had this gargantuan autismo freak out when I ask for a price, then they claim I'm a scammer and I then ask why they list items with no price and refuse to sell.

Something so critical, simple and easy and yet people go ape-shit over it. Boggles my mind.
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>>173468501
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>>173468606
Show them the entire conversation, dumb-ass. You're 100% in the wrong and every single piece of logical fallacy such as generic ad hominems are baseless lies and get blown out every time.
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>>173466470
>playing poe on your phone

I've literally never had fps problems
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>>173468692
lmaoing all the way to the bank
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>Kill Merciless Piety
>No key drop
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT?
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>>173468732
empty bank since you list items with no price and don't sell anything
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>>173468501
>this reddit tier post
get the fuck out
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>aren't for sale
>lists it publicly anyways
redditors need to be shot tbqh
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>>173468916
>poe.trade is a binding contractual agreement
>being told "they are not for sale" is not an acceptable agreement
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>calls out reddit
>replies

baka
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>>173468870
meant to reply to>>173468606
>>173468916 sums it up nicely
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>put some item in my public tab because i dont have enough space
>some dude starts messaging me asking for a price
>tell him i'm not selling it
>he starts sperging out and insulting me
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>doesn't have enough stash space
lamo poorfag
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go to hell maow

a shitter in eve and ss13
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>not playing SSF
LOL
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>>173469194
>>173469065
Pretty funny since he was going off his tit the entire time and "insulting" yet conveniently leaves out that in his tiny screenshot.

This goes to show how fucked up some of the vocal people are on this general.

>not enough space in tabs
Him and what bank? Fucking maximum kek. The guy's a fucking fag.
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http://poe.trade/search/ehogoriruguiko

you don't even have anything with a b/o you conniving little shit
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>>173469553
I'm done. I'm legit' done. That is beautiful. Over 100 items listed and NONE have a buy-out. Fantastic, anon.

Now my autism and blowing him the fuck out is justified.
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>not having all your tabs public and dumping shit in them anyway
lol
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>>173469553
a GOD
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>>173469993
Nice try.

You also think that unlisted items appear before buy-out items.

It goes lowest buy-out ascending to highest buy-out, then unpriced items.

Also 'free' because I want this to show up FREEposter's post.
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>>173470197
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>>173470343
Was about to share that too.

A couple of page grabs incase he fixes his shit without admitting he's a total useless cunt: https://ibb.co/gsgnMQ & https://ibb.co/gsgnMQ Using this website since imgur compresses the fuck out of images these large so they're unreadable and of course they're too large for 4chan.

I love how every time I contact people that have listed items with no buy-out, it always ends up great. Either a good deal or amusement. You very rarely ever get these with buy-out items.
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>>173470552
>u will never be this mad someone didnt sell you a pair of booties
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>>173470552
literal autist right here
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>>173470552
Forgot to link the second one properly: https://ibb.co/cC1ho5

>>173470657
Feed the fire of amusement, dipshit. The meme-train has no breaks and I love calling dumbasses like you out.

>>173470675
Hey, I've been right every single time so to me it's just hilarious. Some good ones are,

>you can't even afford 50c
So I link an exalt.
>whoo 1 exalt
So I link a second, a third etc. He shuts up.
>you're scamming people!
He does these baseless assumptions frequently despite me not saying a single price to him. Simply started when I asked why he'd list items publicly with no price and can't even give a price when asked.
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>he's still going
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>>173470893
It's okay, CrushTheMoon (nice name) Being wrong is a part of maturity. You're just not taking it well at all.
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this newbird thinks he knows trade woes
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>>173471017
Yeah there a price was immediately stated. The previous was just asking what price. It's all on the seller. So many sellers on poe.trade have this huge ego because you are coming to them, so they feel so high and mighty over some pixels.
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>mfw cluster traps + multi traps + conversion trap + chance to flee

this fucking setup

this is the shit and it is now 100% mando on every build i make. it utterly trivializes the majority of content singlehandedly, with no investment, fucking amazing.
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>>173471569
delete this before they nerf it
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>>173471569
Why chance to flee?
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>>173439875
>Another one
>Another one
>and Another one

fuck your game chris

post your pile of shit items
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>>173472083
I just get the prophecy to sell 5 to a vendor.

And get an even worse item back.
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>>173468606
If there isn't a price doesn't that fucking mean they expect to haggle for the good?
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O_O
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>tfw no naked golden statue GF
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>tfw no totem gf
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>tfw no trap gf
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>tfw no feels
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>>173451665
>no stun immunity
>why am I getting stunned by something that hits hard
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>>173471621

makes mobs that get hit by the converted mobs run away, so you get more crowd control than just the converted mobs fighting each other.
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you can't convert breach mobs so your little genius stratagem doesn't even work for the most rewarding league mechanic
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>responding to a 5-hour-old post

HOLY FUCK ARE YOU RETARDED??
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why does twitch sometimes refuse to load
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>Endurance charges
>Flat damage reduction, All Res
>Frenzy charges
>Attack speed, More damage, Cast speed
>Powercharges
>Crit chance

Why the fuck are powercharges so shit?
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>>173475404
Poor cat-poster.
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on my 5th beer of the day...
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who is the comfiest streamer and why is it our boy Alkaizer

I just want to lay down and have him whisper sweet laughter about how bad D3 is
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I'm not gay but alk with silky smooth long hair...
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>caring about streamers
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streamers are entertaining
something you'll never be
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>>173477802
>caring about chinese trash-collector simulator
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there are people right now, RIGHT NOW, who unironically hate High Gardens maps

explain this shit
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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Kripparian the Salty? I thought not. It’s not a story the streamer would tell you. It’s a Salt legend. Darth Kripparian was a Dark Lord of the Salt, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create salt… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he couldn't even keep the cards he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be salty.
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>>173478379
badass dude
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expected something cool from the first words but then it was just half hassed
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>>173478256
>gay boss
>le straight line map
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I want Asha, Suncaller to sit on my d*ck
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>>173478746
>he cant dodge a slow moving firebeam
what the fuck
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>doing theory crafting for fast leveling
>flame totem dps at level 41: 2302
>flame totem dps at level 31: 241

Mother fucker.

I can get to siosa comfy with wideswing + hearld of ash. It's 383 dps.

I need some way to get from siosa to cruel though. I tried reapers persuit and it didn't cut it.
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>>173479227
it's called etheral knives my man
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I want to try uber lab farming, recommend me some build, preferably brain dead ones
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>>173478379
is kripp going to come back for 3.0?
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seems like there are many posters in here that don't know how to link to posts for some reason.
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>is kripp going to come back for 3.0?
why do you care dude he just plays the game when he's paid to
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Let's take a moment to discuss the glaring information that the developers of this game do not play their own game.

>Skills with lab enchants that have %increased area of effect lab enchants are all the same 8-12%, implying that they are equal increases
>Skills with damage enchants that have %increased damage are equal increases, implying that they are equal increases
>attack skills that have duration increases are all 30% increases, implying that they are equal duration increases

How do you fuckers sit there and play this shit?

It's so apparent they don't play the game outside of the casual level like playing through act 1-4 3 times
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>>173481791
There is really no other arpg to play
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>>173481851
>spellcasters are forced to use shieldcharge if they want to go fast

>shieldcharge is STILL FASTER than lightning warp even with 20/20 gems, the lab enchant, 100% cast speed

>flame dash has that completely uncessary cooldown
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>>173481791
>implying that they are equal increases
but it literally doesn't, are you retarded?

when has anything in this game being an equally likely possibility ever implied it is of equal value?
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>>173481791
>>Skills with lab enchants that have %increased damage have duration increases are all 30% increases
>>implying that they are equal increases
>>implying that they are equal increases
>>implying that they are equal increases
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the biggest balance joke to me, viewed as a microcosm, is that es rangers can path through the projectile damage nodes and still end up with higher ehp than life rangers that path out the bottom and lose out on proj damage

pathfinder is the new scion
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>>173482089
isn't spinning blades faster in that instance anyway?
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>>173482419
A build I'm contemplating rerolling takes both :^)

Jokes on me if I follow through because,
>life
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>>173482107
>>173482238

Lab Enchants are there to ENHANCE your favorite skill, your main damage ability, MAKE THE SKILL BETTER.

Even if you were able to get 3 lab enchants for viperstrike, dualstrike, double strike. shock nova all on the same helmet THEY STILL wouldn't be better than any other option just as 3 examples

These skills are older than time, and GGG continues to release new, broken shit while leaving the original skills in their shitty state.

No one says anything about this, no one of any high standing with or within GGG says or does ANYTHING to close the disparity between skills

Maybe you don't understand because you started playing this game this league, or a league ago but I've been playing this game before 1.0


Posting here isn't going to do anything about the game balance, I realize this. But posting it anywhere else is probably not going to do a damn fucking thing either.
>>173482427
Ah thanks for bringing that up
Attack having whirling blades, leap slam, and shield charge
Bows having Blink Arrow (Which is STILL better than flamedash or lightning warp with FULL investment into those 2 shit skills)


I'm just old, and bitter. I'm glad you guys can still enjoy the game but as my favorite archetype continues to get shit on.

I don't want to have to play a pathfinder to go fast on a spell caster
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>Melee splash isn't a MORE damage multiplier
>Pierce is. Pierce lets you hit 3 screens with minimal investment
you LITERALLY
CANNOT
DEFEND THESE SHEEPFUCKERS

BOTH ARE SUPPORT GEMS DESIGNED TO IMPROVE AREA OF EFFECT CLEAR
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>>173482758
Pierce has a % chance to work.
Melee splash always works.
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>>173481707
I got the feeling it's just to spite other posters in clear sign that autism has taken over their train of thought. a new race of shitposter is being born here in /poeg/ the very bottom of the barrel from /vg/
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>>173482852
pierce has innate MORE damage outside the pierce utility, weebshit
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>>173482852
>2nd best quiver in the game gives you the other 50%
>4 skill points give you the other 50%
FUCK YOU
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>>173482637
>Even if you were able to get 3 lab enchants for viperstrike, dualstrike, double strike. shock nova all on the same helmet THEY STILL wouldn't be better than any other option just as 3 examples
those enchant options would definitely be better than other enchant options because an enchant for earthquake doesn't benefit double strike, viper strike, or shock nova at all.

you're a whiny bitch
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>>173482758
I'm not one for damage entitlement because it's already snowballed but melee splash should've been fucking uberstronk buffed patches ago considering no one wants to deal with namelocking anyway. The opportunity cost isn't in damage anymore, it's in functionality, usability and QoL, none of which melee splash actually offers.
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What a weird thing to get upset about. Guess these types of irrelevant "issues" are all people have left to complain about.
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>>173483025
Poorly argued, too. It's so depressing to see how poorly people in general on the internet argue when it can be substantially better with minimal effort.

Shit-posting can be amusing but it wears thin.
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>>173482758
>give melee splash added multiplicative damage
>make it so the area is a Cone in the facing direction

Whaddaya think?
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>>173482983
You clearly have a fucking learning disability

if I have
Viper strike duration
Viper strike damage
Viper strike Crit chance (yeah we really need that 90% crit chance you fucking niggers)

It's still SHITTIER than slapping poison support
onto earthquake with no EQ lab enchant

I don't even know why I'm wasting time explaining this to you.

Maybe you're a GGG dev? Makes sense at how retarded you are.
>>173483025
Yeah what a DUMB THING to get upset about.

Fuck me for wanting viper strike to be comparable to fucking earthquake for SINGLETARGET
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>>173483248
just give up, ggg cucks are everywhere
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>>173483224
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>>173483248
you don't even need to waste a gem slot on poison support

just roll pathfinder
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>>173483224
you still haven't solved the issue of pierce being able to hit 3 screens of mobs
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i just want ice crash effects to not be blinding
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>>173483248
>Fuck me for wanting viper strike to be comparable to fucking earthquake for SINGLETARGET
No, that's a valid endeavour.
But you probably should post your ideas on GGG's suggestioon forum, not here where no one of relevance sees them.
Also, enchants and supports probably isn't the best way to go about buffing viper strike.

How about changing Viper Strike so that if it scores a killing blow it will spread all poison stacks on the killed enemy to nearby enemies (keeping original remaining poison duration intact).
This way, you wouldn't need to use splash or buy a certain enchant or by another unique jewel or anything. You'd just need to build for poison damage and kill stuff with viper strike.
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>>173482637
yeah now you're talking english faggot
and I agree with you, older skills need comprehensive enchantment Improvements and variability
but then again ggg can shit another X skill enhancer jewel and call it a day
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>>173483713
Viper strike being able to spread is what I was hoping for when threshold jewels first became a thing

instead we get % unholy might threshold jewel which is a fucking joke


>>173483713
>But you probably should post your ideas on GGG's suggestioon forum, not here where no one of relevance sees them.
I just took a glance at the front page of their suggestion forum
4 threads out of 5 pages a GGG employee bothered to take the time to post in.

They bullshit us with "player interaction" and don't even interact with actual players
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE1t9oCA9MQ

>This week were doing something special and featuring a build one of our DEVELOPERS made

>prolif with GMP
>lowlife without shavs


really makes me think they do all their testing in fellshrine
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any of you fucbois want to map for a bit? 10 aura necro, lsc na but can run eu as well
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>There are shitbirds in this thread right now that thing shavronnes wrap is good game design and not broken
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>softcore
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>>173482637
I really don't understand why only magic-based movement skills got hit with shit like cooldowns, but at least in the case of whirling blades, leap slam, and shield charge you can't do shit like cross gaps or go to higher ground without stairs.

They really should unfuck those skills,
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yeah man cant cross gaps with leap slam
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>>173485134
>but at least in the case of whirling blades, leap slam, and shield charge you can't do shit like cross gaps or go to higher ground without stairs.
Anon... You can leapslam across gaps, and that is a non-issue in maps
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>>173485218
shit my bad you're right. All the more reason there's no reason only magic-based movement gets fuckwed
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when the fuck is crossing gaps even relevant other than breaches on different elevations. those situations that necessitate a leap skill don't make up for the large majority of the time SC/WB are flat out better
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>>173485331
faster clearing the main content, maybe? not everything relates to running shaped Strands for the rest of your life, chodeboy
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Since were on the topic of balance I just want to point this out.


>500% inc life from tree (that's EVERY point of %life possible from tree)
>Level 100 (Since you get base hp per level)
>above average life roll on every piece of gear, coral ring rings

>only 14k hp


Defend ENERGY SHIELD FAGGOTS being able to hit 20k with less than 183 points.

I'll wait
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>Found one nice amulet for sale
>AFK
>Found a nice ring for sale
>Not online anymore
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>>173485654
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hey guys, i'm a forever alone. how do i go about getting someone to craft a leo mod for me onto a shield?
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>>173485654
>>173485792
oh woops I was actually missing 34%


14817 HP with 534% life, and above average life roll on everything, 196 total points..


ebin game GGG
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>>173483248
>a support gem is better than helm enchants
you're fucking retarded.
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>>173485952
No anon, you are.

30% Reduced Earthquake duration is a lot better than a lot of support gems.

Your move.
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>it's realistic to get 500% life in 1 character
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>>173486189
No anon. It's completely impossible to get 534% on one character.

The point is to be able to do the impossible on a life character still won't let you hit the levels you can on energy shield within THE CURRENT limits.

What part don't you understand? I'll try and sound it our for you slowly GGG employee
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>>173484261
the game was a lot different back then shitboy
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>>173486280
I have no horse in this race. I'm just poking fun at the "500% life" bullshit.
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>>173486332
you're retarded
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>>173486346
If your posts are what we go by, then likewise. More applicable to you, however.
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>>173486283
using GMP for prolif is still retarded
low life ES without chaos protection is still retarded
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>>173486430
that's my first post in this thread
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>>173485548
this is my first post-Atlas league and I'm at 100+ unlock.

to elaborate, movement skills with functionality bottlenecks are garbage. WB and SC are good because there are no startup frames, only endlag. Conversely leap skills not named flame dash or blink arrow (which are themselves bottlenecked by charges) all have the startup lag at the beginning and feel fucking horrid because of it, even with stacking respective attack or cast speeds

the startup vs endlag is why certain movement skills are fundamentally busted (to say nothing of range or charge restrictions). jumping the rare gap doesn't trump reliably charging out of a sketchy situation
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>>173486447
Seems legit.
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>>173486432
gmp didnt have anywhere near the damage gimp it does right now
nothing did chaos damage back then except like 2 mobs and a map mod

you are a complete retard to think the game was anywhere near comparable to what it is today
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>>173486139
helm enchants don't take up a gem slot you retard
comparing them makes no sense
because having one doesn't prevent you from having the other
the only reason you would compare them is if you were actually retarded
you fucking retard
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>>173486537
I was wrong, this is also me. >>173440436
But if you can't see that you're being retarded than you're even more retarded than I thought.
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>>173486432
>hurr durr I didn't play the game back then but I know what I'm talking about

d3 babs go
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>tfw ripped my first HC character at 60

Fuck, that was a terrible lag spike, not sure why I didn't alt f4 it

Ah well time to try poison ST
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>>173486662
Seems as if you think I'm the person that was talking about ES vs Life. I haven't been. As I said, I merely poked fun at one point. I've no previous post about that shit-show and and a sorry display of an "argument"
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>>173486716
I'm judging you entirely on the following posts
>>173486332
>>173486189
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>>173486653
ok

is this easier for you to comprehend?

"A 4link earthquake is better than a 6link viperstrike with the EXACT same skill tree"

jesus christ
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>>173486756
So you're upset that someone disagrees with you or something you like.

It's okay, it's typical for people here. Let us just drop this since it won't get anywhere as very few people in this area are intellectually honest. You will probably scream and continue to act smug but this will only further solidify my point.
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>>173486768
>using the same skill tree for completely different skills
you fucking retard
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>>173486930
>Poison earthquake is better than viperstrike

are you retarded?
>>
niggers
>>
hate them
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>>173486985
show me where i said that, retard
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i wouldnt mind checking out some ebony barracks tbqhwyf if you know what imean
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>>173486840
I'm not disagreeing with you, nor would I be upset if it was simply a disagreement.
I'm calling you retarded because you're literally "making fun" at something that was never said.
You're retarded for thinking he was suggesting that 500% life was realistic. Had you actually read his posts at any point instead of masturbating at your own intellect you might've realized it.

Maybe I'll spell out his point since you probably still don't understand it:

If you took every single life passive point on the tree, had good life rolls on every gear slot possible, and did absolutely zero damage, you might be able to break 14k health.
Whereas this pool size is obtainable day 2-3 in temp leagues by level 85 characters running 1 minute strands, because they picked es instead of life. Oh, and they're also immune to chaos damage and can recharge back to full in 2 seconds.
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Yea boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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>>173487180
You implied that you dont use the same tree with earthquake and viper strike

If you use poison earthquake with the same tree as viperstrike

earthquake is still better
you are a retard
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>>173487318
>You implied that you dont use the same tree with earthquake and viper strike
because you don't
>If you use poison earthquake with the same tree as viperstrike
but you don't
retard
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so if i want to poison mine I have to use some no defense chest, FOUR (4) jewel sockets, a gem slot on an already starved setup, or a fucking ascendancy that unlocks after normal lab

I wonder what the least shit choice is
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>>173487419
>optimal tree

versus

>unoptimal tree

earthquake is better with unoptimal tree
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>>173487532
then why were you crying about helm enchants?
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I'm done replying to you. You're clearly retarded beyond all hope Kill yourself in a hospital so your retarded organs can go to smarter people.

>A GOOD skill
>has ACTUAL GOOD helm enchantments

vs
>A BAD SKILL
>WITH NO GOOD ENCHANTMENTS
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>>173487743
Welcome to discussions on the internet.
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Tfw I've died more times this league at 70+ then I did in perandus, prophecy, essence, and breach combined.
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>>173487909
git gud retard
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>>173487743
>helm enchants are designed to make bad skills good and good skills bad
no they aren't you fucking retard, why the fuck would you want one of the most expensive things in the game to be essential to making a skill not shit?
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>>173487246
B-Banned
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>Lab enchants are the most expensive things in the game

oi am i laffin
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lad you should've given up on VS when they made it a generic lazy conversion skill instead of the flat per level

a lot of beta skills are shit and GGG has never done anything about it, waving it away as asymmetric balance where it's "okay" to have skills be better than others (see: how one threshold jewel made EK a more relevant nova than both novas combined have ever been for the entirety of their existence)
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>>173487936
But I hit 100 last league and 96+ In every other league since tempest.
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>>173488069
but you're clearly shit this league
so you need to git gud
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>>173488042
>minotaur with horrific mods
>1 shot city
>all that lost xp
gun in my mouth lads im going to fucking do it i swear to god
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>>173488021
>usually 30c when added to a shit helm
>value multiplier when on a powerful helm
>more often than not it's simply not available for sale and has to be obtained manually
you heard me right, retard
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and now im just throwing away (you)s by accident
could this day literally get any worse
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>>173488317
you could get raped
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>tfw levelling a new ranger and had quillrain and ondars read
>4 attacks per second this early

This is fucking nuts
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>>173489045
why dont you buy a storm cloud and actually do damage autist
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should I shape Atoll or shore? aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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whats the best totem skill this league?
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>Lab Enchants are expensive
just run it yourself retard
twice enchanted are cheap
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I've got 20ex and want to do a magic find build

what do
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A rudimentary price check puts this at anywhere between 25c - 4ex.

How much?
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>>173490002
give me all the money and find some magic outside your basement
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>>173490028
dual wielding is shit so put it up for 1ex for a few days and lower it from there if no one buys it
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>>173490097
are you implying 20ex is basement dweller tier

its been a month you faggot
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>Saboteur is still shit
3.0 won't fix it will it
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i want to play a bow build but WHICH ONE
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>>173490312
>dual wielding is shit
Don't tons of meta / meme builds use that shit though?
Dual sprinklers / HoWA are two that I'm aware of.
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>>173490884
>3.0
>saboteur reworked
>Traps have NO COOLDOWN RECOVERY (they already cost too much mana as it is, fuck off GGG)
>Traps have +2 chain
>replace the retarded smoke ascendancy with Base crit chance/crit multi thing assassin has but for traps, powercharge on trap procs etc
there
that's ALL YOU HAVE TO DO
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>>173491273
Alternative:

All (Bow) skills and spells you cast are supported by level 30 trap
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>be arc miner
>get Doryani fist as a drop
>cant even use it because 1 I need a weapon and 2 trap shock kills dont count
who designed this trash
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>>173491735
it's pretty much meant for weird shit like fist cyclone.
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does poehud show offering timers?

im tempted to use it just for that
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i always run out of chisels fUCk
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>Make sabo and zerker skill tree

>Zerker is better

thanks GGG
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>>173492106
gonna get banned dont do it

GGG puts more time and money into anti-cheat than actually balancing/developing/improving their game
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Does projectile damage affect the initial hit of Frost Blades?
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>>173492328
dont care much if i get banned

i made my own ahk offering timer but it only calculates duration with 3 bodies (from desecrate) and thats most often not accurate
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>>173491735
I don't get the arc miner meme, unless you actually want to clear slower than most any other spell linked to mines. The only real use for arc mines is in pvp since you can't manually dodge arc.
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>>173492273
more like:
>make ______ and pathfinder skill tree
>pathfinder is better

>>173492439
no. that's a big part of why frost blades is still a noob trap
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>Made a low life doon cuebiyari scorching ray guardian
>Tanky as fuck, damage is okay BUT SR radius and area is completely shit
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what did you expect from a shit skill
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feels good man
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>>173493186
Why doon instead of doryani's?
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>>173493304
heck, ive never had a chayula spawn in a breach throughout either this league or legacy league. its stupidyl rare
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>>173493374
Because I'm also using Geofri's Sanctuary and I can respec to Abberath if I want
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>>173493460
eh, I'd say the chances are somewhere between 1/10 breaches and 1/15. I say this after doing dozens of chayula breaches one after another from buying chayula breach league stones.
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>Champion taunts work with totems
>But herald effects, doryani fist dont proc on traps

thanks ggg
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>>173493304
whats that shit in the topright?
some kind of overlay?
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>>173493903

>Enemies _YOU_ taunt take 20% increased damage
this works with totems
>if _YOU_ kill while shocked trigger herald of thunders secondary effects
this doesnt work

when will these sheepfuckers sell their game to someone competent
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>>173494072
Comes with lut bot logout macro. Shows character's ranking on ladder
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>Champion debuffs enemy for 20% More damage for EVERYONE in the party
>Saboteur debuffs enemy with blind and only gets 30% Increased damage for only himself

people will defend this
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So since the templar is a follower of the gods, how do you think it'll play out in act 6-10, knowing he will actually be fighting and killing said gods

what would his reasons be?
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Does animate weapon work with cyclone?
>>
Doesn't he only believe in one god?
#notmygods
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>>173496059
i ment cast on hit support gems
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>>173496081
Maybe there is one "real" Christian god which we will not see and a few typical fantasy gods who are just very powerful supernatural beings that you can meet and talk to and kill if you are strong enough.
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i like the champion ascendancy

might play one in 3.0
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>really like game
>maybe I'll buy one of those costumes, to look fancy ect.
>think 450 would equate to 4,50
>45,- bucks for a costume

what the fuck
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>>173496392
Yeah the prices are extreme. Also they should change the MTX transfers to a one-time buy system that lets you change anything at any time.
>>
>it's a europoors wake up and complain about being poor episode
>>
it's nearing your bed time, chris.
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>>173496436
>45,- is ok for shitty full-plate armor sets or weirdly out-of-place looking steampunk shit

4,50 would've ment a lot more people would buy a lot more costumes

please tell me you didn't spend 45 on a costume
please
>>
45 pounds for a costume.
Feels god to be European.
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>>173496420
are the mystery boxes worth it? have you bought any?
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>>173495984
templar only follows one god dumbass
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>>173496907
I hope you enjoy getting some shitty hideout item
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>>173496907
full of retarded hideout items and the items are not even exclusive. You can eventually buy them, just have to wait 4 months later than retards that bought them.

I spent 30$ on mystery boxes and got a bunch of fireworks and hideout shit, only thing worth a fuck I got was a gloom herald (like 5-10$ idk)

biggest
scam
>>
>please tell me you're as poor as me
>please
>>
Would a Basalt Flask turn 20% physical damage reduction into 24% or 40%?
>>
>additional
hurr durr
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>>173497604
yes
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>>173496907
No. The whole idea is that the pool has a lot of undesirable items (even if they are technically worth more than the price of the box) so you're more likely to keep buying more and more to get something you'd want.

These kinds of boxes are pretty scummy, even for a free to play game, they are deliberately poking the same nerves as gambling does.
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>>173497639
I know what Increased/Decreased and More/Less do but I haven't seen any other items that give "additional" of something. That makes it sound like a flat 20% damage reduction but that seems too good to be true.
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>>173497790
Welcome to path of flasks.
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>>173497912
I like how pathfinder class name implies that she is better at this game than anyone else.
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>selling anima stone for 3.6 ex
>someone whispers me
>"3ex?"
>this has happened multiple times
Why not just buy a fucking primordial might for 3ex then craft your own fucking anima stone
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>>173498160
Yeah. Only played pathfinder once in prophecy (BV poison) but that shit was absolutely broken with all the flask effect/duration shit and flask charge generation, it had basically 100% flask uptime for everything (two-use vinktars with the reduced charge use node and reduced charge use roll on belt, so endless vaal pact leech), with all other flasks geared toward defense because poison was broken too. Flasks refilled in no time during fights.

Nothing I played before/since came close in survivability for the investment, I was even using a tabula through it because of shit linking luck.
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Rate my Hidden potential crit raider:

Tree: poeurl.com/bfV2

Only uniques I'll be using is Snakebite gloves and Cherubims. The swords will be a pair of Malicous foils of Incision.

With the tree and two magic diamond rings I should be at 50+ crit rate, and the Snakebites will help with accuracy.

For flasks I would go with:

Life-Diamond-Vinktar-Onslaught-Basalt

I'm undecided on the skill still, might go cyclone or perhaps cleave with the new threshold jewel.
>>
Does the magnitude of the "increased charges used" mod on vinktar flasks make it more valuable or do people just care about the flask variant?
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>>173498930
Mostly flask variant, but a low roll can make a huge difference.
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>>173498868
Just try it mayne, a character hits level 70 in a couple days, if you're slow.
Sounds low on the dps, imo, but I have never done anything with Hidden Potential. Raider and snakebite seems counter-intuitive.
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What a fucking joke of a game

There is a %life into %es jewel
but there is no %es into %life jewel
only %es into %armor

DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME
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>>173499563
theres also an 20% maximum life into energy shield amulet
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>>173499563
b-but life flasks
>gets oneshot
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woah... yeah..!! hold on!!! i think this guys on to something!!!!

I never ever ever realised it or thought about it before!!!! es might be unbalanced in comparison to life!!!!!!

I SEE IT ALL NOW!!!!!!!! ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW HAS NO ONE SAID THIS BEFORE IT SEEMS SO OBVIOUS HOW HAS LITERALLY NO ONE EVER BROUGHT UP HOW ES IS OVERPOWERED HOW HAVE WE MISSED THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THANK GOD FOR THIS ONE ANON WHO HAS STEERED US INTO THE LIGHT NOW WE ALL KNOW

fucking kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllllllllllllllll yourself
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nice autistic meltdown right there f a m
>>
thanks it felt good to write that
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>>173499563
how do you feel about these items
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bated_Breath
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ephemeral_Edge
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>>173498868
Snakebite for poison melee when (legacy) Voidheart exists :thinking:

Not picking any defenses whatsoever despite being 1 point away from Acro or 2 point away from IR :thinking:

Making a long detour just to get to the Witch area to then skip Alchemist :thinking:

Melee VP with a poison build :thinking:
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Energy shield has been progressively getting stronger than life and the gap is growing every patch.

Why?
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>Best Life item in the game gets nerfed (Kaoms)
>In 2.6 you cannot get more life than energy shield even with every single point dedicated to life with unnerfed kaoms

really makes me think
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>>173499120
>Sounds low on the dps, imo
I think so too.

>Raider and snakebite seems counter-intuitive.
Snakebites are there to provide poison and accuracy. Accuracy is really important as it is tough get it with mostly magic gear.
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>post nearly perfect item, literally the 2nd best possible roll for a fairly cheap price
>people still try to jew me with offers under my listed price
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What a fucking joke of a game

There is keystone that makes you lose all your life but 1
but there is no keystone that makes you lose all your es but 1

DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME

*goes back to his level 75 character with 530 deaths*
>>
>this autistic ES shill
>>
What a fucking joke of a game

There is keystone that halves your armour and es
but there is no keystone that halves your evasion and life

DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME
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>>173500096
Solution: Increase life gained per level and skew it so that you have all life by level 85. The last 15 levels should give slightly higher base life regen that all other life regen will then scale from.
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>>173500078
>Snakebite for poison melee when (legacy) Voidheart exists :thinking:
Snakebites are like 1c vs 12 ex for voidheart.

>Not picking any defenses whatsoever despite being 1 point away from Acro or 2 point away from IR :thinking:
This is why I'm thinking of going for cleave with the new threshold jewel. Otherwise I'll put fortify on whirling blades.

>Making a long detour just to get to the Witch area to then skip Alchemist :thinking:
The AoE nodes are pretty much mandatory if you want to your build to be enjoyable to play.

>Melee VP with a poison build :thinking:
I don't see your point. I have almost no life regen and I dont need blood rage, so VP is a good choice imo.
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while everyone is shitposting about life vs ES, i think this is the best time to ask this question

is it possible to use es for mana reservation?
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What a fucking joke of a game

There are uniques that recover life% or life on hit/kill
but there are no uniques that recover es% or life on hit/kill

DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME
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What should I use it for?
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>>173500557
Grab any random 500+ ES chest with a decent chunk of intelligence on it.
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What a fucking joke of a game

There are flasks to recover life
but there are no flasks to recover ES

DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME

*launches diablo 3*
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>>173500912
Not an argument

Any worthwhile HP/Effective hp gets restored with LEECH, usually INSTANT leech

fucking retard
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>>173500952
You must not have ever played HC. Life flasks are extremely valuable for anyone using a non-ES build.
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>>173501047
>non-ES build.
lol
>>
What a fucking joke of a game

There are builds that can leech
but there are builds that can't

DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME

*deletes summoner and buys vinktar*
>>
dude just use the baron lmao
>>
>go from 4 attacks per second to 2 attacks per second while levelling for more damage

It feels so slow uuurgh
>>
What a fucking joke of a game

Berserker gets 100% life leech
but ES classes get nothing

DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME
>>
>blood magic gets 15% increased life
>ci is 15% More
epic meme
>>
What a fucking joke of a game

normal Oak gives 40 life
but normal Alira gives 60 mana???

DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME
>>
I'd tell you guys how to make life viable but it'll compromise my snowflake status
>>
>>173501459
no one will ever take 60 mana, 10% allres over 40life
there are nodes that give more than that on tree, but no nodes that give 40flat life
>>
What a fucking joke of a game

You get 12 base life per level
but you get 0 base es per level

DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME
>>
>Assassin trapper
>Has access to 10% pen
>has access to raising the base crit chance of the 5% crit chance traps into 95% crit chance easily, and fucktons of multi
>Saboteur
>Has access to 20% pen
>can make smoke clouds
do they even play their own game
>>
i got bored and vaaled all my shit and used all my currency to do stupid shit

and now i keep playing, why?
>>
>>
>>173501881
>implying this is relevant now that pyre got gutted
nice meme
>>
>>173501881
>essence league was 2.4
>that was 2 leagues ago
anon fuck off
>>
*shifts goal posts*
DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN GAME
*baby rage*
DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN GAME
*dies in dried lake*
DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN GAME
*pays for a carry for lab*
DO THEY EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN GAME
>>
>Sabo has 4 points dedicated to blind
>Sabo doesn't get like 200% movespeed for using smoke mine
defend this
>>
>Hit hard boss with burn skill

>run around like a retard
>repeat

WOW
SUCH SKILLFUL GAMEPLAY

when the fuck is burn getting gutted
>>
when am i getting gutted
>>
>invent manufactured and gay stories
>cry about it on poeg

WOW
SUCH SKILLFUL SHITPOSTING
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>>173502892
>Take ignite build
>Into a fight of a boss you cant ignite
>Take 50x as long
nice meme anon
>>
>inventing something thats manufactured
You need to stop visiting pol and copying whatever they say there. Contrary to normie belief, it does not make you look smart.
>>
^seasonal shitter trying to fit in
>>
>browsing pol means you're an oldfag
i am laughing so hard
>>
why is this retard ranting about /pol/

what is it about the term manufactured that is political

someone get me a retard translator over here
>>
>calling others retard
>when he invents manufactured stuff
:^)
>>
someone let me know when the discordshit is gone
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i just came all over my keyboard because the loli futa porn i was fapping to was a bit more risque than i was prepared for
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>Every time someone says "Uniques are not stronger than rares"
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>>173503762
>loli futa
Come on man.

Share it.
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It's ranting about muh /pol/ boogeyman because it's shitter from r-ddit and the fucking subhumans being the subhumans that they are think anyone who has a differing opinion or experience to them is pol because "rasism!" despite the fact that polfags do not play videogames and the "ur pol nazi rasist" is a cop-out to convince themselves they're right and the argument is over because they don't actually have any arguments pertaining to the topic they're posting about and just want attention.

r-ddit being r-ddit as usual.
>>
>week-end poeg
>armchair game balance specialists and reddit shitters galore
coicidence? I think not
can't wait for monday to roll around and you cockroaches to f*ck off
>>
>>173504171
>Oh GGG please shove it in deeper!

>UNF Yes I LOVE PLAYING ENERGY SHIELD BUILDS AND NOTHING ELSE UNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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your highest level in hardcore?
numbers of hc demis you've won?

okay
good
now shut up
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>>173504171
>f*ck
>Talks about reddit
Wew
You can say poop and butt here kid, mom won't find out
>>
it's so easy to single out every and each one of you idiots who stumbled upon this general less than 2 weeks ago and have yet to assimilate the general culture

f*ck off you redditfugee
>>
>>173504505
how many demis do u have kid? if u dont poopsock every race u arent shit
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>>173504290
>numbers of hc demis you've won?
demis arent even good retard
they give no es, they dont give global defene either
>>
>put an item on sale for too low price
>all these whispers, all this attention
kinda feels nice... feels like i have friends :3
>>
What's the new minimal uniques op farming build?
>>
>>173505726
vaal fireball or vaal spark with bisco's
maybe ek nova
>>
>>173505726
facebreaker shieldcharge

all you need is facebreaker, abyssus and flat physical dmg items

clears up to at least t10 with minimal setup
>>
Im about to make my first 6L. Level 93 Cyclone user in standard league. Gonna switch from Marohi Erqi to Wings of Entropy because I still havent found a better yellow. How bad am I?
>>
>>173507648
>Standard league
Why?
Legacy league (The current 3month league) has the best league mechanic ever, its very fun
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>nerf all radius increases into area of effect increases
>keep some enchants as radius for no discernible reason

Good job GGG
>>
infractem bow says that it cannot leech life.

can it leech energy shield with ghost reaver?
>>
there any good non witch necro builds? non totem

i don't wanna play as a girl
>>
>>173508727
Occultist abyssal cry
Occultist essence drain
Elementalist <elemental skill>
>>
>>173508727
You could try playing a Baron necro as Guardian or Champion I guess
>>
>>173508597
what if the monsters don't have any energy shield to leech
>>
>tfw I wasted 3ex in a perfect Energy from with in for jsu a 400es increase
JUST
Where do I go from here?
>>
sell that shit and give me the currency seeing as you have no idea what the hell you're doing
>>
>>173509018
do monsters have mana?
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>no returns
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>>173509656
they don't have mana and all use elreon jewelry to pop their spells off
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Just beat palace for the first time and it dropped a dark forest. How fucked am I?
>>
dark forest has the hardest boss in the game
>>
>>173495845
hey look i can compare completely different passives while ignoring context too
>saboteur gets 40% cooldown recovery, effectively a 66.6% more multiplier to dps
>champion just gets 10% attack speed and 35% increased melee damage
wow looks like champion is garbage and saboteur is OP
>>
do you taste exceptional
>>
>>173510051
if you're too stupid to hide behind the rocks yea
>>
>>173510132
i am
>>
>>173509991
dark forest unironically uses one of the more difficult end boss bases because he actually has 2 (two) whole mechanics

turn into a wolf (invincible)
and cum a cone of black wolves at you

this is far too complicated for your average player so WATCH OUT
>>
it's more the arena is cancerous (and dark) rather than the boss himself is hard

overgrown ruin wouldn't be so bad either if you weren't in a little circular rooms with debris blocking your movement skills
>>
>>173510192
don't forget the wolf applies bleed which hurts a lot
>>
>>173509768
>did a waterways with 102Q%/40P
>Nothing all the way until the boss
>Then 2 Tier 14 maps
>>
>tfw you have to fucking befriend the guy selling something you want for well below market price
autism makes this difficult but its allll worth it in the end
>>
whats a good xirgil's crank build?
>>
blight
>>
>>173512124
thanks for talking with me, you're a real bro
>>
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who else here /stillnoreliquarykey/?
worst league?
>>
>>173513852
is that per character? Cause I have like 4 high levels ones. Found 4 reliquary and 5 exalts so far, seems pretty high.
>>
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQBAQHcBS0FZgYgBqIHdQmWDHAQ8BQgFHEUdRXsF9wY2xuqIVUhYCP2JyAppSz7MHw1kjkOOuE7tkCgR35KfU2STeNQR1b6XhNfP2MXZU1noHSgdO108Xasd9d343gNeHp5aHrvexSBOoIHhNmE74VShrSHaod2iiKK8I19j2CSfZS4l3mYb6OKpTWmV6knqW6plK2NsoC18rkdvTa-p8AawKbBBMEHypDPftRS137Yvdlh2Xzawdwj3D3gn-Of5FHlz-lG6hjrCe4O7w7yWvVh9zL46_lj_o8=

Where do I take this build?
I'm at 5k but I'm still feeling squishy as fuck.
I'm also having problems getting enough mana leech on single targets, and want to get rid of the mana leech as soon as that problem is fixed.
My gear is burrowed 100% from my other character, so the iron reflexes node is gonna get dropped when if I switch out my equipment.

The aim is to have the 2Fast2Furious clearspeed of flickerstrike while still being able to evaporate endgame bosses + stay alive, switching between Flickerstrike for trash and lacerate for bosses.

6 link belly of the beast?
Starforge?
Armour nodes?
>>
>>173513852
>4 days 21 hours
>0 ex 0 key

worst league for me so far, I'm poorer than ever
>>
reminder that earth is flat
>>
what is at the edge
>>
pussy snails
>>
>>173514784
post character you bozo
>>
>>173514784
>>173516304
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/ibawibaw/characters

"Iyebawe"

?
>>
Do the uber lab trials spawn on specific maps or do I just keep running random maps and hope to get the last one I need?
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>>173514784
iron reflex is shit, you need all sorts of mitigation options with two handed weapons. Since block is out of the question, one option is to try lightning coil + acrobatics + evasion.
And you really don't need that much mana leech, 0.4% was enough for my flicker strike build. You really need a lot more life leech to take advantage of endless hunger.
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>>173516573
>abyssus
>why do I feel squishy rofl
Ok
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>>173516704
>>173514784
Oh yeah, you need more frenzy charges, terminus est crit build basically allow for permenant frenzy charge up time even against solo bosses.
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>>173513852
found 2 keys today after having 0 for the entire league
sold both :^)
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>guy asks to buy my 19/20 corrupt gem
>invite him
>he asks if it can go to 20
>say yes
>he leaves the party and then adds me to ignore
??????????????????///???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

????????????

???????????????

??????????
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>>173516704
All my gear is evasion because it's been stolen piecemeal from an evasion character. I'll drop it though, and see if I can reach 7 points for phase acrobatics (although how does this work with my % armour nodes?)

I'll try a single split life/mana 0.4% node -
I really feel like I was running out of mana on single targets though.
With all my charges up and onslaught I'm burning through ~10 attacks per second at ~60 mana a yonk...

>>173516891
but muh deeps
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>>173494191

the intimidate part also works with totems when the wording suggest it wouldnt
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>>173517840
I generally only take armor nodes that have life. Life builds is all about stacking mitigations
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>Whispering Ice
>Clearing atlas go for Wakakaka touho
>Destroying everything
>Shade of witch literally 2 shots me even though capped res and fire flask.
I'm done with this league till 3.0
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>lose 10% exp
>dont even care at this point

ded fuggen game man
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>>173517840
You also might need to respect some of the path to make it more efficient without iron reflex factored in. Though that's up to you
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i fought a boss and i died and you know what that is NOT ok
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>>173517840
If you want to use Abyssus for endgame maps, you need to atziri's acuity + kaom's heart + bigger life leech
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>>173517840
I don't get it
I had a flicker I used to play running 85% reserved mana and never had issues single target
Also, you should grab impact and ditch the melee splash gem IMO
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odds: cospris
evens: lab runner
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i play quadra lightning warp totem and i'm having fun
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>>173518582
fuck off noise
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I wish the best builds didn't predicate on you having some crazy 5ex shit and 50k ES
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i don't know what predicate means
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how do unID id'd items
>>
noun GRAMMAR
ˈpredəkət/
1.
the part of a sentence or clause containing a verb and stating something about the subject (e.g., went home in John went home ).
"predicate adjective"
verb
ˈpredəˌkāt/
1.
GRAMMAR LOGIC
state, affirm, or assert (something) about the subject of a sentence or an argument of proposition.
"a word that predicates something about its subject"
2.
found or base something on.
"the theory of structure on which later chemistry was predicated"
synonyms: base, be dependent, found, establish, rest, ground, premise
"expansion of the group is predicated on further research"
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So I'm kind of new and leveling as a golem build.

Do the minion nodes in the skill tree help golems too?
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>>173518508
I kill trash fast enough with melee splash, I wanna be able to be able to take endgame bossess with another skill that lets me actually position myself.

0.4% works perfectly 95% of the time, but there seems to be combinations of rares / mapmods that leave me waiting for mana with my dick hanging out for half-seconds at a time... and then if I'm in a breach a dicey boss or in the middle of a pack of triple essence mobs I'm dead before I can react.

>>173518481
> atziri's acuity
>13ex
>6 link weapon so I can run a Kaoms
> 4~7ex
> top end resist rare to make up for all the uniques
> 99999999ex

SHIEEEEEEEEET
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i predicated your mom i guess then
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Golems are minions as stated on the gem. Hence they get minion bonuses
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yo how do i make the controller work wid this
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>>173520657
Anyone?
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that question was already answered retard
learn to read
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you cant just learn to read its not that easy
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>>173520746
ditch voidheart
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if you can manage to get to a specific general on /vg/ for a game you play without being able to read, learning to read should be a reasonably accomplishable task
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shut the fuck up
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this is text
it's not verbal
I can shut the fuck up and still shitpost all day
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actually

actually thats not true at all
i win the argument
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oh fuck
I lost
damn
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>dried lake farm with pugs
>beyond breach rampage
>exalt drops for someone and they don't pick it up immediately
>pop vaal detonate dead
>they all altf4 thinking it was the beyond boss
>take the exalt
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I tell lies on the internet.
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the previous post is a lie
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havent failed a captcha in months call me captcha god
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>>173522025
>things that never ever happened
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why is this general full of so many faggots?

all russians or spics?
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this general is bad because its not a true HC ethnostate

shitbirds and reddits drag us down
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can we please talk about blade vortex
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blade vortex is a dexterity gem
its tags are spell, duration, aoe
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when you cast blade vortex blades spin around you
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you can have up to 20 blades up
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i wish blade vortex still had individual hit detection
>>
redpill me on spell crits
i would have thought the crit rolled for every different hit (like every firestorm explosion) but it looks like it's actually for the entire cast
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the only spells that roll crits for each hit are blade vortex and orb of storms
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>redpill

unsubscribed, downvoted
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New player here. Is there anywhere that has benchmarks for things like high rolls on gear and recommended resistances and such? I'm cruising through cruel not paying much attention, but occasionally I'll get oneshot or swarmed (Vaal Oversoul and an artisan's strongbox unique boss most memorably).

I don't want to have to check poetrade or poeaffix for every item that drops, at least while leveling. Steam guides are mostly useless as well.
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not even ball lightning?
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>>173524134
poe its a game meant for children

just use common sense and youll be fine.
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>>173524161
that's per cast, and the hits have an innate 250ms cooldown

if ball lightning's hits were scaled by cast speed. it'd have alright damage and i'd play it all the time

why is ball lightning shit. why do you have to remind me it's shit. it's so cool.
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>>173510079
You're retarded anon.

>The tanky, supporty class deals MORE damage than the trapper for everyone on his team while saboteurs shitty little blind is only a 30% increase for himself while ccing

>Champion has better CC and more damage
>Saboteur has worse cc and less damage
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every class has a RP ascendancy, why are people still surprised about it?
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>>173525090
RP? This isn't about roleplay

Champion debuffs enemies to take 30% "More" Damage from all sources, including allies
While Saboteur gets a "Buff" that lets him deal 30% "Increased" to blinded enemies
"increases" are shit compared to "More" modifiers
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>>173520657
>do the minion nodes helps the minions
what did he mean by this
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>>173525195
of course it is
taking sabot, just like taking deadeye, and others, is a RP choice

you are purposefully making a suboptimal char because you like the ascendancy archetype
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>>173525402
cmon now deadeye isn't saboteur-tier
>>
Top 5 shittiest ascendancies from shittiest to least shitty

Scion > Saboteur > juggernaut > Deadeye > trickster
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>>173525090
duelist and witch would like a word with you
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>trickman
>bad

found the shitbird
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shitters don't like deadeye because the 30% more damage doesn't show on tooltip
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>shitbird #2 thinks deadeye has anything on status immunity plus free poison or free charge gen from pathfinder or raider
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>>173525790
it's the least shittiest of the worst ascendancys but its still pretty shitty

Haven't made one yet but I plan to but from what I've seen

Inquisitor gets more attack speed with permanent uptime where trickster gets half his attack speed unless he is regenning es

trickster has NODAMAGE and no massive utility like inquisitor 0 res on crit
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friendly reminder deadeye has a 100% MORE damage modifier with the return node
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>>173525790
name 1 good build that isnt better with any other ascendancy anon I'm genuinely curiou
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ok but what if i exclusively play duelist
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>>173526131
>has to be used with chain or fork
>cant be used with pierce
>doesnt even hit the mob that triggers it twice, no guaranted to actually hit anything

yeah sure sounds like 100% more
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>inb4 some retarded 100% mana reserved build that uses cyclone (cyclone is shit)
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>>173526225
not going to spoonfeed you builds turdtit
in fact i prefer it if the majority of brainless biomass thinks trickster its bad, as it keeps my build enabling items at a very low cost
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>>173526559
1. Why would the cost matter, if you've already got the item
2. There is nothing trickster specifically takes advantage of that any other class can't with the unique
3. You're full of shit, occultist is a better trickster
4. Just cause you're gay for shadow doesn't mean he isnt saboteur tier
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>>173526325
>cant be used with pierce
u wot nigga
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>>173526742
projectiles that pierce dont trigger return
projectiles that return can pierce but then youd need some low pierce chance to have them return sometimes, and it would hurt your clear speed as your pack would get hit every un-evenly
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>redditsink highlights Rive as a t1 drop
:thinking:
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>>173526559
Occultist:
Can recharge in combat as long as they have killed in the last 4 seconds
-150 Less flat energy shield than trickster (Big fucking woop)
slightly less cast/attack speed
%Regen .5 per kill

Trickster:
lol free movement ability
lol 1 endurance charge worth of damage reduction
lol 15% chance to get frenzy charge
lol +1 frenzy
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>>173527074
the scourge is the t1 drop, they just happen to have the same base
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it shares a base with the scourge
retard
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>>173526559
the only 2 somewhat decent trickster builds are ed and cospri discharge and ed is better as occultist while cospri is better as assassin
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>>173527176
>>173527329


>redditlogic: the posts

please stay there
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best portal mtx, go
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>>173527461
m8 we've provided evidence backing up our claims, now where is yours?

I didn't even bring up the -20% chaos res or the 10% Debuff you put on enemies, or the %hp explosion, or the double curse(Which trickster has no access to)
>>
legacy
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>>173527487
The one that looks like a sweaty vagina
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>>173527461
post your shit no dps build then retard
>M-MUH 250 ES
occultist gets 100 flat and 16% over trickster AND a whole bunch of other insane defensive and offensive bonuses
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>>173527035
shit's unreliable but it's technically 100% more damage
powerful precision is still an ok pick for deadeye because it allows you to have ~100% pierce with just the pierce gem
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>>173527620
i dont expect reddits to understand how good 8% global reduced damage taken is, coupled with the chance for huge max ES,and virtually free 40inc DoT damage
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>>173527960
>tricksters medicore DoT damage comparable to -20% chaos res and a 10% Debuff
lol
>m-muh global reduced damage
how about you take that +1 curse you get and fucking use enfeeble you mongoloid
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>>173527924
it won't hit the target it returned from though, so it's unreliable as fuck and has no real use since you delete packs regardless
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>>173527924
saying its unreliable is a very big understatement
it would make more sense to say "it almost never does anything useful"

if you want to take as 100% more damage, then good for you. but its a shitty way to deceive yourself
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>>173527960
>taking weave the arcane
YOU

CAN'T

MAKE

THIS

SHIT

UP

why don't you go play scion instead I'm sure that's more your speed
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>>173528108
>lol
redditargument
>how about you take that +1 curse you get and fucking use enfeeble
how about you take both anyway, shitbird. on you cant because you fell for the occultist noobtrap
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>>173527924
3.0 needs to fix this fucking mod
Tora bows had the mechanic first when masters released - they were pointless because the projectiles didnt fucking matter

then they release ascendancy with the same fucking retarded mechanic

i have no respect for this company
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>>173527487
The default effect, though I do like the legacy one. Skipped breach so don't know how that looks, but a majority of all the effects I've seen have been absolutely retarded.
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>>173528273
>redditargument
redditargument
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>>173528258
>>
Occultist is TANKIER
Occulist has more DAMAGE
Occultist has MORE UTILITY
Occultist has more CUTE

ANY and i mean ANY build trickster does, occultist does better s
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occultist doesnt have a cute feminine penis though
>>
prove it faggot
>>
She has a thick futa cock.
>>
how do you know...
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>>173528574

>its not
>it has about the same
>it does, but still bad
>pedo

like i said. i like it that shitbirds think trickster is bad, it keeps the real meta affordable
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>looks like a boy
>has a penis
>witch is a girl
????
>>
Scion with Occultist and Trickster ascendancies is better than either

stay pleb forever, poeg
>>
you're all retarded like wooper
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>>173528781
>>it has about the same
no anon
40% increased is not comparable to -20% chaos res and 10% debuff (Debuffs are treated as More modifiers)
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>>173528574
Essence drain trickster is much more comfortable for mapping because of free frenzy generation and all the attack+cast speed.

But yeah occultist is better in every other way.
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>>173528986
they are about the same if you build right
but you dont even know how to make a tree that isnt copied from a streamer
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>>173528574
Trickster is better for certain LL RF builds where you use shav' ring, reserve all of your mana and use Trickster's 0% mana cost for movement skills to move about.
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>>173529251
no anon
40% increased is not comparable to -20% chaos res and 10% debuff (Debuffs are treated as More modifiers)
>>173529342
you don't need to reserve all your mana if you rock an enlighten
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>>173529464
Shav' ring deletes mana regen, anon.
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trickster is fucking garbage
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>>173529342
>A low life rf build where you reserve all your mana
so you literally dont do anything while RF is burning? Or you're forced to use cyclone?
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>>173529342
or you could go guardian and have more es and armor and % phys reduction and non-conditional life regen and aura effect and reduced curse effect
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>>173529464

>no anon
>40% increased is not comparable to -20% chaos res and 10% debuff (Debuffs are treated as More modifiers)

you can keep repeating this as a mantra because you heard a streamer say so

but if you understand how damage works in this game, youd know that it depends on how you are stacking your multipliers (if you have no other inc dot source, inc dot is mathematically indistinguishable from a MORE multipliers)
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>if you have shit damage increase then 40% increased is good
ahh yes
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>>173529662
no anon you see my trickster build is better because SECRET UNIQUE ONLY TRICKSTER CAN USE DESPITE TRICKSTER BEING VERY SIMILAR TO GUARDIAN, OCCULTIST


>>173529732
No anon, I think you need to learn how negative res works, and how powerful double curse is, and how debuffs work before you sit there and tell me 40% inc dot is stronger
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How do you go RF without Rise of the Phoenix or Trickster meme?
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>>173529875
had you learned some basic math at school, all those things you obviously believe are mystical would be transparent to you as simple damage modifiers and you would be able to make your own builds without needing to ask for guides
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>>173529732
>(if you have no other inc dot source, inc dot is mathematically indistinguishable from a MORE multipliers)

OR

OR
you could go for a good ascedancy and get increased dot sources. woaw
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>le trikster is butter becuz i didnt take ANY damage XD
yeah except I took some damage and then blown your shitty shadow out of wraeclast
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>>173529647
Welcome to 99% of RF builds.

>>173529662
You can, but people are ignoring the original post: >>173529342
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>>173530558
okay but guardian is still better for low life rf
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>>173530558
no they are not
>you could do the objectively better version of a build or worse one just because you can't contain your homolust for the portrait art of trickster
hmm nah
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ok dude like I get it

I love saboteur for his synchronized detonation but it's clearly inferior to going elementalist trapper or assassin
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>>173530760
Again that is irrelevant to the original post that I again seemingly need to link again: >>173529342

That post is the first post of mine this whole shit-show of "muh occultist" etc. I am simply adding in a point.

>>173530827
And typically in 4chin arguments, there's at least one poster that can not read and/or doesn't know the game well at all but continues to talk.

Again if you people are further confused or even intentionally (likely) trying to be malicious, here's a >guide that spells it out nicely for some people to easily follow: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/660316 -- and no this is not where I got the information from. Shavs' ring for %es regen stopping mana regen is what I thought is common knowledge. Apparently not.
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>>173531080
okay but guardian does lowlife rf better without wasting a ringslot
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>this retard still going on about muh shitster
can't make this shit up
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>>173531220
In your opinion.

Again, I suggest that >guide as you're not reading properly on here. But it is unlikely you will take your time in reading it. It's further unlikely you will even admit any sort of fault or common ground.

I do not get why you people are so extreme between choices as if it's 100% or 0%. No wonder why most "arguments" here are sad. No one learns anything.
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>>173531464
my opinion doesn't matter
hard numbers matter
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>>173532165
Yes and with 0% mana regen you ain't doing shit as non-Trickster.

You've been conflating much that's irrelevant. Again, read the original post carefully and perhaps then will you understand. It will help if you briefly stop having such a cynical and egotistical mindset for a change so perhaps then you'll consider something you wouldn't normally think of or do.

Some people like to use the Shavronne ring, so deal with it, retard.
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>>173532312
okay but you're wasting a ringslot and an ascendancy choice for no good reason
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>>173532461
That guide says otherwise and says there is much more between ascendancies than just the ring.

It's clear you're not reading shit so I'll stop bothering. There's sometimes just no helping certain few on here. Enjoy.
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>Some people like eating shit, so deal with it, retard.
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What's a decent build that doesn't require Shavronne's or CI for basic functionality?
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welcome to poe. you new here?
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>>173532832
well
yeah
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>>173532893
there are none
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>>173533128
I'll settle to use CI I just don't want to have to drop 10ex that I don't have for shav's or some other bullshit. Something to just let me hit up maps and fund other characters. Hell even a good respec for my SRS mancer would be fine.
>>
just use srs you fag.
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>using shit r*ddit summons
>>
word we use blade vortex here
>>
-1
we use reave
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>try to theorycraft a bleed build
>cant get much more than 90k dps with a bunch of conditional shit active AND crit

this why no one likes melee
>>
more of an arc guy myself
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>>173534060
Melee is shit unless it's cyclone and even then it's still fairly bad
>>
The clear speed meta have made fighting monsters meaningless, they might as well be a whack-a-mole game played with a board size hammer, only foiled occasionally by house mechanic tampering. Right now they could easily be replaced with dots on the screen.
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There is no discernible difference between Path of Exile and Diablo 3. Fuck GGG.
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>>173532607
>guide

good lord just leave already
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>>173535302
>a post using more than just pure conjecture is somehow bad
yes you should leave. good heavens a post actually uses some secondary sources!!!!!! retarded cunt.
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>kill enemies
>they explode and I die

>kill enemies
>they shoot projectiles on death and I die

>kill enemies
>they give me a bleed debuff and I die based on when I hit them
This is shit
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>>173535063
"Oh you can't instantly kill everything on screen in milliseconds and then go full Sanic and do it all again and clear an endgame map in under a minute? Shit build kys"
>>
Fuck this meta, honestly. We all knew this would happen a year+ ago when the game consistently got easier and faster.

I miss Tri-ele thicket with LA LMP. Good simple times.
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>>173535063
Shoot-em-up games and even Musou games are far superior at doing the killing hordes of monsters than POE ever was.
>>
whats a good edge of madness build?
>>
what's a good discord meme
>>
>whats a good [leveling unique] build
make an educated guess
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GGG should really revert CoC nerfs
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>>173537282
>Revert coc nerfs in this cancerous (((((((((clearspeed)))))))) meta

no
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>>173537441
r*ddit opinion = discarded
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>>173537508
yeah I really don't enjoy having 1 button vaal skill presses refill on their own while i hold down RMB

literally diablo 3 tier gameplay
>>
just j/o'd to my witch

feelin real low right now
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>GGG should...
>here's how to fix life...
>we need an AH because...
>I listed an item on poe.trade and here's what happened...
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>>173537929
>AH is bad
>>
why are redditors obsessed with the "double dipping" meme?
>>
Going to play an elemental life based tornado shot/barrage ranger

Rate pls: www.poeurl.com/bf0c
>>
The variety in end-game is something that I've grown to appreciate, and it's something that has expanded over time. The end-game that you want to farm can help shape your build too, like the cwc AW builds that are especially good at Breaches, or lab farm builds, and then you've got the builds which are "best" at map farming (vspark et al) which can have different specs if you want to farm lake, T1-5, T11, T15, etc.

And then you've got subtle differences between the same build, like pathfinder vs Raider for a bow build, Slayer vs Jugg vs zerk 2h melee all are different, and fit different playstyles/encounters...

It just takes years to do everything in poe, I mean EVERYTHING in poe, it's almost inconceivable.
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>>173538151
>I need gear acquisition to be trivialized because I come from D3
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>>173508168
it's your isp, they're slow on the updates
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>>173538210
I agree with this. The only thing I would say is better in D3 is general grinding. GGG needs to do some kind of overhaul of the maps as there are way too many that feels almost the same or are just something you whish you don't have to do ever again.

In D3 you are forced into a random map and most of them doesn't require much if any backtracking. Where as in PoE like 3/5 or more requires it, that leads into a lot of players playing single maps or just a few.
>>
I hated the xbone release announcement to the point that I felt betrayed for my financial commitments in the past. Now I feel like a whiny jealous little bitch who got mad because their favorite game flirted with another community.
GGG, this was my weak moment. There's no and there has never been any justifiable claim to have a donation be used explicitly for what the donator had in mind. Having been so narrow minded and now seeing what you accomplished, I feel ashamed. I regret having doubted you.
I'm ready now for this kind of open relationship. And I will probably purchase the next iteration of supporter packs too.
Sincerely, a reformed fan.
who should've gone to sleep about four hours ago desu
>>
get you redditposting out of your system before we hit bump limit, you meme loving retards

i won't participate in this buffoonery
>>
theres already an ah you fucking mongrels, its called poe.trade
>>
>>173538331
Sad autist, get out of that basement, start a life, get a job, get friends, do social activities, only then reply to my posts. Your autism doesn't equal reality. You are a moron first class, a failure.
>>
thanks for the compliment
>>
reminds of that one time in my 1k hours of playing where i listed an unique item i thought was garbage and once i open the trade panel the guy put an ex, accept it and said "you mispriced it". Could have gone "lol scammed" but no. I will never forget it ^
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I can't wait to play PoE on the XBox Scorpio, that's better than any gaymen peesea.
>>
a4 takes way longer than all the other acts, in my experience it feels as if its almost equally as long as the other 3 acts combined (probably due to having more exerience with the other acts tho) which makes it feel very very bad, especially when running through useless zones like daressos arenas or kaoms path. dieing there feels even worse. having to run 5 mins in a straight line to come back to where you were, welp.

then theres all these VERY confined spaces like the way to daressos areas with all the archers spawning inside and no way to juke em, the kaom fight, the piety fight with the laser etc etc, which all feel way more like a gear check than actually being skill based encounters due to the small rooms these fights are in. if you dont have capped fire res you just cant survive kaom. same with new piety, if you dont have 2 quicksilvers or a perpetual one and a lot of life, youll just gonna die, no matter what.

i actually like the three bosses before malachai (altho shavronnes doesnt feel good either because juking her ground targets its WAY too hard). malachai himself just feels way overtuned tho, especially in normal. there shouldnt be a mechanically harder fight than atziri at the end of normal, imo. on top of him having too much aoe (which is what makes him mechanically hard) his HP feels WAY too much, too. takes way too long to take him down, which detriments from the actual fun youre having with it by a lot.
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Chaos inoculation and Low Life builds are in a very bad place, CI needs VERY heavy investment into gear and has little to NO benefits over a life based character in fact in the current state CI might as well be life but with no flask options to heal and no constant regeneration options unless you have spent crazy amounts of currency, little options for leech and the current state of leech in general is just not enough to support most CI builds (using ghost reaver) unless you have huge damage with very fast attack and cast speed.

Low Life is now completely dead. The build suffers from a myriad of effects from being on low life with little to no upsides. There was a time when low life was an albeit (expensive) choice where you could take many more auras and your damage balanced out the downsides of being low life. Now it’s just downsides with only a very small handful of builds able to take proper advantage of low life.
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*doesn't make the new thread*
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>>173539374
frickin based
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Nobody likes nerfs. I know that. But at some point we have to draw the line and say: "This is the end. Characters should never be stronger than this". And that is fine. That is completely normal and absolutely necessary for the health of the game.

Over the years, with every new league and expansion, the game has gotten so much faster and faster, its like we lost that line somewhere along the way. Remember how much slower the game was pre 2.0 and how fast it was in 2.0? Well since 2.0 it has only gotten faster and faster with every league and expansion, especially ascendancy. With every league our characters kept getting stronger and stronger and this has created huge balance issues.

There was a point when red maps were level ~75-77 and they were ridiculously hard, compared to what we have now at level 75-80. There was a point when Core Malachai was painfully hard and required extremely good gear as well as mechanical skill to beat.

But now there are builds that can kill guardians in less than 10 seconds and guardians have roughly 50x the HP t15 bosses have. This is too much. We have to take a step back because we've become way too fucking overpowered.
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>>173539613
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>>173524791
you brought up the worst saboteur point to complain about the saboteur class, addressing exactly zero of the problems with traps in late game because everything in this game has shit options that you have to avoid
kill yourself
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>>173535775
Nah
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