/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

>>173412754
Loli Jam!
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-loli-jam-2017

2nd for keymaster

>>173412772
more like a big fat meme

nth for how is your game coming along

>you will never know so little about art that you can't understanding how an understanding of linear perspective applies to all games, 2D and 3D

>>173413020
>i swear dk used 3D models
No, the DK on the GAMEBOY, you child

What are some successful 2d porn games (not visual novels)? Those seem a bit unpopular to me for some reason vs 3d porn games.

>>173413020
but the sprite is just an image right? how can I get the direction from that?

>>173413207
super deep throat

>>173413207
Princess Trainer 2bh.
Sparked a whole genre of clones and a big part of the Patreon bubble

>>173413074
I can't draw, so I can't make any references. So I can't model anything.
Basically I'm stuck and I'm also lazying around today.

>>173413207
Super Deep Throat, Violated Heroine are pretty popular.

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New since last progress:
-Suicide drones trying to headbutt you.
-Tanks
-Dropships, filled with tanks.

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>>173413228
you have set up your character to change sprites based on what direction they're moving right
>>173413174
where's the perspective

I need example of good overworld map screens

>>173413396
the meter thingie attached to the ship is hella distracting

>>173413482
In the later levels and some cutscenes.
Just got finished going though it again.

I dont know why youre trying to argue 2d games dont have perspective though. Or just admit you wanted (you)s

>>173413482
no, right now what I want to do is if I press arrow key up i want my character to move in the direction he's looking. I think finding out how to do that is irrelevant to what sprites I have

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>>173413607
I'm not dead set on leaving that meter there, but I think it's better to be able to see it without looking away from the ship, like the hyper meter in dodonpachi DFK.

>>173413607
oh shit, I thought it was a ship's part. Certainly a bad design in a game like this

>>173413815
Wait, are you trying to make your movement dependant on the orientation of the sprite ?

>>173413396
Lookin good, glad this is still alive.

>>173413815
>right now what I want to do is if I press arrow key up i want my character to move in the direction he's looking.
how do you make your character look places then

just add an event or something when you make a character look right like "statelooking right" then make your character go right when you press the arrow key up if "statelooking right" is true

>>173413945
>>173414018
i guess it'd be easier to say im trying to make an asteroid clone, so you only move forward in the direction you're facing.
right I just have it moving in a straight line hardcoded, i'd like to change it to get the direction and then apply a force for it to move that way

>>173392658
I gave your game a try. I agree with the other anon from last thread who said that the physics are painful, but despite that I still enjoyed it enough that I ended up playing through the whole thing.

physics:
>too little friction for ground movement, makes landing on single-block platforms more difficult than it needs to be
>not enough control of movement when in mid-air
>still playable though

level design:
>actually pretty decent for this kind of game. nothing ground-breaking or amazing, but there was a decent amount of challenge without being impossible
>sometimes the placement of the key or the treasure seemed pointless, though; for example, there was a level where the key was near the door, and all you had to do to get it was jump straight up into a vertical alcove.
>the visual design/theme of the levels was all the same, aside from the addition of lava. If you were to make this into a longer game, it'd be important for the levels to have more visual/thematic variety.

graphics:
>nothing to write home about, very simple
>not offensively ugly either, though. I mostly feel neutral about the graphics

sound:
>virtually none at all
>I liked the little jingles for getting the key and treasure, though.
>not having any other sounds didn't really seem like a problem for such a short game, but if it was longer the lack of sound would probably become boring after a while

other:
>performance was good (but it'd be ridiculous for a game like this to not perform well)
>I didn't see any way to change the game resolution or make it fullscreen. It was a little annoying to play it in a tiny window.
>immediately respawning after death was a good design choice, dying is less frustrating when you get to try again with almost no delay
>similarly, not having a lives system was a good choice

My verdict is that it isn't terrible, just very basic, with a kernel of good game design. Congrats on getting a finished game under your belt, anon.

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>yfw this looks kinda ok

>>173414464
>i'm making a clone of something in gamemaker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vHFv7q3KpA

fucking google

>>173413396
I know you're just recreating DDP but I freaking hate those giant obnoxious star things.

>>173414794
im not using gamemaker, im programming on my own. take a breath you seem angry

>>173415048
>im not using gamemaker, im programming on my own
use gamemaker

Where should I go to improve my writing?

I tried /lit/ but they yelled at me

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>>173414687
>he hasn't tried drawing the other eye yet

>>173415420
>drawing two halves when doing a texture

>>173415376
only way to get better at anything is to practice.

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Hey aggy
I've been away for a while
Any cool /agdg/ news?

>>173415376
Why?
Read more.
actively critique your own writing, if you cant, sit on a piece for a week and come back to it.
Youre welcome to post a sample now and ill give it a crit.

>>173415420
is it wrong to be turned on?

>>173415465
>mirroring textures

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>>173415605
forgot image

Actually the new fee for releasing games on steam will be between 100$ - 5000$.
What will you do if it costs so much as 5000$? I surely don't have that much money.

>>173416089
what determines it costs $5000 ?

>>173416089
>so much as 5000$?
Valve wont have a flat fee that high considering a hefty portion of their games are indie.
Theyll probably start at a few hundred and ramp up the more games you release within a time window/total.
But if they arent shit then they should pay for themselves which is valves intention.

>>173416089
Totalbiscuit and Jim Sterling say Valve are aiming towards the lower end of those figures.

Let me make something clear to all amateurs and wannabe indies in this thread :

There is no fucking reason for you to use UE4 if your game is going to run like fucking shit.

Using C++ is not going to miraculously make your game better if you're a terrible programmer.

>>173416161
Valves greed for money. And as we all know they are jews, they probably want a shitton.

>>173416361
they make less money from what theyre doing

>>173416089
i really can't see the fee being larger than 1000 dollars and my gut tells me this whole parade wouldn't happen if it was just 100

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gm island

>>173416318
Are you reading posts I can't see or something

>>173416387
it's just one of these "LOOK AT ME i'm making a bold statement! give (you)s at once!" shitposts, but you might be onto something

>>173416385
$100.00 is a lot to some people

I think valve has lost their "being on steam means something" edge.
Yeah, they're still the number one pc vidyo store, but back when indie games were starting to go paid, only the great ones got in, and it was only due to sheer popularity or getting a publisher.
Now it means jack shit, sure you're going to get more sales that if you published on itch or gog, but there's so much shit in steam it's barely an achievement. You just exchanged money for a chance of more money.

Disclaimer I have no plans of selling my game.

>>173416520
100 is the current greenlight fee with the entire voting mumbo jumbo

>>173392658
Literally unplayble for me. You seriously broke something with the controls, because I can't get past the start screen.

>>173416480
so what kind of shitpost is this?

>>173416585
Thats why theyre doing the update, they even admit GL was known to fail from the start which is pretty shitty and shows how complacent they are.

I really hope gog or someone expand, even though it still wont matter because too many people are too indebted to their steam accounts.

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>>173416225
>paying any attention to those two retards

I want Reddit to leave.

>>173416832
Because those are the people Valve invited to their offices to discuss the new system

You should probably pay more attention to things

Man, IA is fucking crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2We0YuJ6pk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpxx15b04hU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6VQed4AqO0

>>173416762
But what will change, then?
They're removing the "pay a bit, and have some sort of following online" system for a "pay a bit more, get on steam" one, which makes it even less of an achievement.

At least gog will personally pick if your game is 'worthy' of their service or not. I do wish gog was a bit more popular.

>>173416585
I think there's place both for a store that's much more restricted and curated and one that allows anything. Especially on phones where the store is the only way of getting apps (at least, the only officially supported way) it'd be outrageous if Apple/Google were picking and choosing what was allowed based on some subjective notion of quality.

It'd be great if Steam could be both but so far they've completely failed in that regard. Right now the Steam store just sucks both for small indie people who get their games buried with all the shovelware and for the players who have to wade through it all trying to find good games they don't already know about.

>>173416386

How do you get to the musem?

>>173416602
But now you just pay 100 bucks once and submit as much shit as you want. Even if the fee doesn't go up, just having to pay per title should reduce the amount zero effort meme "games".

>>173417373
you make a valid point

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>>173416386
Put some FXAA on that shit my dude

>>173417373
Having it as high as 1000$ easily can reduce the amount of good games too though.

>>173416386
why is mod green
is she sick

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Probably gonna be torn apart here but whatever.

Been working on this character model, I got to this point and sorta thought I was done buy took a step back look and it just didn't look right overall.

One thought I had was that the fur was too flat (as its just a flat texture painted on). But every tutorial on how to make these things look like they have more depth are always about using the particle system and stuff which doesn't work in the context of a game model.

Was hoping I could get some feedback on what I need to do to make it look better. I'm relatively new to this.

>>173417297
The problem is you can either pull a gog and go drm-free, and a lot of publishers dislike that, or just sell steam keys, which just makes you just a curator.
Sadly I don't think there's an easier solution.

>>173417208
It's amazing.
I'm working on a big IA project for my thesis, and there's so much to learn and do it's mindblowing.

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>casuals complaining that your game is too hard

>>173417248
Theyre revamping the review system, attempting to go even farther with the customized store. And really putting an emphasis on curators in general self-modding.

But theve said theyre aware of non-games and shovelware. Killing grey sites and instant cards will help.

But they still have to figure out a way to avoid fake 5 stars seeing that anyone can be a curator.

But I think upping the fee and making it per title will definitely cull it atleast. I just wish theyd actually remove confirmed joke/non-games.

>>173417373
I believe you also have to submit much more information than before, that should make it generally more effort and harder to submit 15 shit games posing as 5 alternate companies.

>>173417603
the chicken feet and hands need to go.
after that you can iterate on an otherwise nice model.

Maybe add something to the head/face or possibly something else to the costume.

>>173417603
use bump maps/normal maps if you want to give depth to your model without adding extra vertices

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>>173417702
>ignoring feedback

>>173417317
u have to fish up 2 old boots and then drop them off the edge and then a pair of winged boots will fall onto the stump and then those let you cross the void

>>173410315
Could you, please, tell me how you made her? What shader do you use? How does the modeling and texturing go? It's just. She's so perfect. ;_;

>>173417969
Kill jester

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Progress!
Now I'm adding the eggs in the game, will post updates soon.

>>173417702
What do you consider "casuals"? I like hard games, but a game can also be too hard, imo, to the point where it's just too frustrating.

Fuck yeah. I finally figured out one of the biggest problems facing my game: How to position equipment on monsters/units (including the player). I'm the anon making a game with units that have varying limbs and body structures.
I've also got ideas on how to move the weapons during swing/shoot actions.
After that, I have to do attack patterns and some level designing.

>>173418180
>hopscotch game
Comfy.
Would play it.
Keep up the good work!

>>173418206
Any pics of a unit holding a weapon?

>>173417952
>>173418204
well, people playing that understand the genre have also told me it's too easy. so i think it's an issue of accessibility more than difficulty.

my initial post was kind of shitposty

>>173417736
My problem is, how do you know what curators to trust?
I don't follow youtubers or game reviewers at all, so I barely use that feature other than for curators like "4 player local multiplayer games" or shit like that.

I'd love to see steam unfuck their shit. I just don't think it's bound to happen.

>>173418358
Add a two hour Nintendo-tier tutorial to explain all the mechanics

>>173418180
>isometric camera
yeah, nah

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>>173417702
make it harder

>>173418348
It's just a standard capsule collider for now. I'll post pics when:
I have the unit model imported, AND
I can actually make the weapon swing correctly

>>173418474
>how do you know what curators to trust?
Its just about finding ones you like. And also adjusting your tastes to theirs. Maybe find games you already know that they reviewed, then compare.
But theres also going to be individual taste changes. They mentioned something about better genres and tags.

>>173416089
Doesn't matter what the price is I'm releasing on itch.io first. And if it gets enough money to release on Steam, I'll do that.
The itch.io version price will also permanently be 10% lower than the Steam price, since itch.io doesn't take a huge cut like Steam does, meaning I'll actually make more money from itch.io sales even at a 10% discount.

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>>173418180
>people shit on me for not using perspective in a 2D engine
>this guy gets a pass while he's using a 3D engine
thanks hitler

>>173418802
Because there are less 2.5D games.

>>173418802
One is grid based
The other one is a journey ripoff

>>173418802
>using hitler
Maybe because he's not an idiot like you.

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>>173418548

>>173418802
Half of your screenshot has perspective, the other one doesn't, that what irks people.

>>173418941
>journey ripoff
name one other game that's a journey ripoff
>>173419029
you are an angry angry person

>>173418802
all of the above

>>173419228
>name one other game that's a journey ripoff
Abzu, and it does a pretty good job of it.

reminder not to reply to shitposters whose games are not anything beyond a series of ms paint pictures

>>173419321
>whose games are not anything beyond a series of ms paint pictures
all i need to do to make a level is to throw in that mspaint picture as a background and add a few door and collision objects

>>173419436
>not using tiles
disgusting

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>>173419542
>not using tiles
tile based 2D games always look like shit

hld didn't use tiles

>>173419716
>hld didn't use tiles
>posts a picture clearly using tiles
Hmm, this is a strange new meme.

>>173419865
well i guess that's why hld looked like shit then

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>>173419716
Well with some games the background isn't half bad but combat animations and stuff are usually less than desirable.
Used to play pic related; they had some decent looking backgrounds. The biggest problem with the game was speed of combat.

>>173419961
Also the game was an MMO from 1998...decent for its time but quickly became dated (especially when WoW first came out in 2004)

>>173419542
>>173419716
I've been working on a GameMaker game and was wondering about tiles. Is using a huge picture as the background for a room and adding collision afterwards gonna cause problems? I find it a lot easier to just draw a whole room than messing around with tiles

>>173420315
> Is using a huge picture as the background for a room and adding collision afterwards gonna cause problems? I find it a lot easier to just draw a whole room than messing around with tiles
i wouldn't use a huge picture, i do exactly this and i use backgrounds this size
>>173418802
and upscale them, i get around 2k fps

also i use a fixed view

>>173420315
No, if you place your collision block correctly its better than have separated objects!
What I do is create objects and make a room, then take a screenshot of the room and save it as background, after that I remove all the objects of the room and place the background and the collision objects.

>>173420315
No, that would work. The reason people use tiles is mostly because it allows several ease-of-use and editing improvements like randomly picking a tile from a set of alternative, or automatically choosing the right tile given surrounding tiles (e.g. to see grass overlaying sand or something like that).

>>173412230
figured it out, my open set heap wasnt sorted

>>173420716
proud of you

>>173420315
using big ass images for every stage is heavy as fuck compared to tiles
>>173420510
what the fuck

>>173420828
>using big ass images for every stage is heavy as fuck compared to tiles
shouldn't it be the same after the image has loaded in if you're not using tile based movement

you're redrawing the same number of pixels

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>>173420510
>What I do is create objects and make a room, then take a screenshot of the room and save it as background, after that I remove all the objects of the room and place the background and the collision objects.

game maker fags everyone

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>>173420716

>>173420828
Something like this:
https://youtu.be/1lKtEk6hH1M?t=2534

>>173421090
what's wrong with doing it that way

>>173421248
Nothing and many actual games do that.

>>173417603
I believe making fur is all about extruding planes from the body, and as already mentioned get some more maps going other than the albedo/diffuse.

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>>173420828
>using big ass images
Get on our predecessor's level scrub.

>>173421425
That's the "old" way, yeah. New way uses the geometry shader to get actual fur strands.

>>173421547
Ah damn, that sounds advanced. Got any videos on it?

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Progress!
Now all that's left to do is code the goal tile that makes you win the level and show the score, and the game over screen when you run out of steps.
Then I can spend the remaining time making 3-4 types of special tiles.
I'll probably do most of this tomorrow.

In the mean time, any musicbro want to make me a cute song to go with this?

>>173421425
You mean kinda like foliage, but instead of using leaves you're using fur ?

>>173421001
Heavier on memory, not processing. With tiles any bits that repeat only get loaded once.

>>173421779
>any musicbro want to make me a cute song to go with this
I can give it a shot
What are you looking for?

>tens of thousands on Steam
>dozens of new games come out every day
>Play and Apple store loaded with even more titles
>All those indie games being hosted on itch.io or whatever other dumb indie site
With how ridiculously saturated the market it, how do I know whether or not my game is original? It's a simple game that isn't story-driven, so with the sheer quantity of games on the market now, how do I know I'm not breaking someone's copyright if not in gameplay than in name alone?

>>173422079
>With tiles any bits that repeat only get loaded once.
so if i used a background which was monocolour gamemaker would store each pixel individually?

>>173422636
Gameplay cannot be copyrighted.
If you're worried about the name already existing, just google the name and see what comes up, y'know.

>>173422636
If you do it by yourself or you buy the rights to use some assets, even if you make a copy of game (super mario) that have differents names etc, you should not worry about copyrights.
Gameplay cant be copyright.

>>173422298
Well, something cute and light, something that would fit with Spring and Easter.
Doesn't have to be very long as long as it loops well and doesn't sound too repetitive.
Sorry I suck at describing music.

>>173421779
Pro tip: make the animation for moving and collecting items interruptable so that players can move faster. Otherwise difficult levels are going to feel extremely tedious.

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>>173412754
Someone is telling me the dimensions needed for playstation trophies is 320x176.

I don't own a ps3/ps4, but I know steam achievement icons are perfectly square right?

Does 320x176 sound right for playstation?

I'm googling but only finding generic trophy icons.
Do playstation trophies even have custom art like steam?

>>173423012
Good point.

>>173422752
>>173422834
>Gameplay cannot be copyrighted

Gameplay can't be copyrighted but the software techniques used to create gameplay and various GUI elements can be.

>setup occlusion culling in unity
>see it working but the amount of batches don't change

hmmm

>>173421509
>compressed low resolution images with low color depth vs high definition uncompressed monsters shat out by gamemaker

>>173422867
Would love to work with some extra guidelines, but I'll give it a shot.
Are you going to be around?

>>173423308
>software techniques used to create gameplay
Hope he doesnt write exactly same algorithm and make his game opensource

>various GUI elements can be
Such as? Inventory? Minimap? Healthbars?

>>173423521
Thank you, and sorry about that. I didn't really think about it much yet.
I'll be around for another 4 hours or so, but you can also find me on Discord if you prefer SquareAnon#9593.

>>173423412
Blame the gamemaker devs for their incompetence.

>>173422697
yeah
it all depends on the texture size

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>>173418653
HOLY FUCK

>>173422752
>>173422834
So you're saying I can just release a 1:1 copy of Mario Bros as long as I make all the assets myself and name it something else?

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>>173423912

>>173423308
To correct myself, I meant patented, not copyrighted.

>>173423625
>Hope he doesnt write exactly same algorithm and make his game opensource

Not how it works. A patent shark just has to suspect you're using one of their patents and failure to present your source code in court will be held against you.

>Such as? Inventory? Minimap? Healthbars?

Yes, exactly.

>>173424060
That's like 95% of indie games

>>173423412
>high definition uncompressed monsters shat out by gamemaker
give me an example
I have a 32000x18000 24bit jpeg picture in my disk
guess what size it is

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Will this fool some people?

>>173424128
That is in USA right?
Here in Spain that kind of things cant be patented and if it can be, you can do "reverse engineering" without any problems.

>>173424367
anyone who falls for it will just do a charge back

How much easier would it be to work with pure voxels a la Novalogic games over some polygons? Not trying to go for a shite Minecraft/3D Dot Game Heroes clone.

>>173424846
Voxatron?

>>173424846
Fankly voxels are the only way to make novalogic tier games.

Cant really think of any other way to make something like that.

>>173424367
18+ to use this site

>>173424367
You would have more luck with a 'This is the most expensive game on itchio' game

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Done with the electric effect - I need to start working on actual spells. I know I'll do a generic thunderbolt spell but other than that I got nada. Maybe some electric ball and chain thingy?

>Trying to render .SVG's by hand
Why cant i go Terry A. Davis tier persistance when i want to ;_;

texture painting is hard

>>173425416
A fancier bolt which bounces between enemies
A thunder cloud which roams around zapping people
A ball of lightning to throw which hits the floor and then creates an AoE zap

>>173424060
Just replace mario with a black empowered woman, princess peach with a ""modern father that is useless without the mom", call your game progressive and make the black woman fight her way though blocks representation of the patriarchy.

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>>173425769
exhibit A

>>173422636
look up what copyright actually means.

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>>173425906

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I guess shadows don't work that way in the corners, right?

>>173394745
Look up the games curators already recommend. This system will only discourage them from recommending obscure indie games even more.

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[extreme amateur]

I started learning javascript on codecademy, on like lesson 10 or so.

A big goal would be to work at Jagex, I'm trying to understand how the stuff I do can translate into creating an mmo/3d game

I downloaded unity and messed around with it, the camera view was very unintuitive.

So far all I know how to do is make a program talk back with an answer/say whatever

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>>173423134
Here's a PSN trophy

>>173426569
>A big goal would be to work at Jagex
Theyve switched to C++.

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>>173426569
>[extreme amateur]
>creating an mmo

>>173426426
Every AO implementation seems to do that so I guess they must work that way.

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>>173426809
I didn't say I was making an mmo I said I was trying to understand how what I'm learning can translate to the creation of one

>>173423672
Here's a quick WIP. Is the general feel/instrumentation ok?
https://clyp.it/gghtfv44

>>173424326
>jpeg
>uncompressed

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I would like to ask for a favor... anyone can rig this humanoid for me?
It took me some hours to make it, it has a lot of vertex in weird positions but since I'm trying to finish a game, this is holding me back, because I can't have a static humanoid as a player.
You don't need to animate it or anything, just rig it in the correct way. I also bought a full Blender course but it will take a while to learn everything... so if anyone do it I will be very grateful!

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AhuKiONNB5NIhvZTY4UXyQK5KchzNg

>>173426426
>>173426947
http://nothings.org/gamedev/ssao/

AO always looks fucking terrible, don't use it.

>>173427873
>http://nothings.org/gamedev/ssao/
Truly wonderful. That's something I was looking for. Thank you!

>>173427161
I like it!
Maybe try some different instruments, like guitars or flutes, but the melody is great.

trying out gfx-rs with sdl2. Whenever I create the pipeline state object, compilation fails with Program(Vertex(CompilationFailed(""))). The vertex program is known to work since I can use it in the gfx_app-based examples. I can get window and input working but as soon as shaders are involved it dies. I haven't found any meaningful insight into this issue. Has anyone encountered that before?

I'm making a spaceship game with modular spaceships.
All modules are the same size.
I have Cargo
Crew Quarters
Hull
Reactor
Shield Generator
Storage Tank (for fuel or liquids)
Thrusters
And one that's a default weapon.

Any more I should do? I suddenly realized that I have no idea what I want to make.
I want to make interesting combat mechanics though.
I will start working on a way to save the ships I make, (and load them automatically) and then start with enemy ship AI and try to focus on making the combat fun, until then, I don't care about the rest of the game

>>173428808
Go play some ss13 and then come back.

I have saved up 50,000 $ from years of working a low wage manual labour job which i'm getting really tired off. I'm thinking about saying fuck it and just quit and spend my days game deving full time. Has anyone else done this? I am approaching my 30s, my life is without meaning and i don't have anything else to spend the money on.

>>173429182
Do what you enjoy most. If you want to gamedev, do gamedev.

>>173427540
no

>>173429121
I know about SS13
it's not that type of game, but I can get some ideas for modules probably
thanks

>>173429182
i will always do what i love even if i end up homeless with no family or friends

im not here for a long time just here for a good time

>>173427540

I'll help you out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYiAd_08-0k

>>173429182
maybe see if you can take a leave for a year and come back after a year and see where you stand? 50k won't last very long.

>>173429182
Doing it on just over a fifth of yours
the neet life is the only life

>>173429405

I can survive for 800 bucks a month so i'll be able to last a few years.

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>>173427250
It's 178MB
it loads around 4 seconds from an SSD into windows photo viewer

You want to tell me you're making Game Maker rooms which come anywhere close to that?

>>173429462
heck man, do it. but have a backup plan. put in your 2 weeks so you can be re-hired when you run out of money. if you're pursuing game dev to get rich then I don't know what to say.

Does typing up some ideas in my design document count as yesdevving?

>>173429792
only releasing a finished game counts as yesdeving you donut

>>173429792
Yes and no. It's yesdeving if you actually start implementing the ideas from your document. It's the epitome of nodeving if you never implement any of it.

>>173429792
>having a design document

nodev as fuck

>>173430452
b-but that's how game studios do it

>>173430669
The people actually making the game don't

>>173428510
nvm fixed it :)

>>173430452
>>173430669
>>173430803
having every single detail precisely outlined when you're an amateur on your own without any help is an emblem of ideaguying
however, if you're working in a team, good planning is essential and even when you're not having a rough, but clearly defined outline helps you not get stuck on dumb details

>>173430669
Not really. They mess around with prototypes before they actually work on design docs, and design docs are NOT there for the sake of development but to cover mostly managerial ground:
- Finding patentable ideas and preparing filing documents
- Identifying potential legal conflicts
- Cost estimation/attracting investors/publishers
In very large companies, the leader of the development team writes up the document and submits it to his boss, who will decide whether or not the team is allowed to continue working on the game they have already gotten a working prototype for, or if they should be reassigned.

>>173430951
You can still have a design document as an amateur, but it needs to be very adaptive. Unless you're ideaguy lvl 300 and have your entire game outlined from the start.

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Jesus fucking christ what a slow week.

Either way. Zombieman is rigged and with it all variations. Now I need actual run/walk/attack animations, another weapon and some assets for a cave/mine/whatever
When that is done I think I can finally finish the trailer and put it on greenlight before that thing goes offline.

If it's not getting greenlit... welp, we'll see.

What's a moderate offer for 20-30 seconds of relatively simple trailer music?

>inb 700 bucks

>>173430669
A rough design doc is fine if you use it more as a notebook to organize your thoughts. Use it to speed up your flow of ideas, and if you find yourself getting stuck on one design issue for too long then gloss over it and come back later. Set a timeline so you're not writing the doc forever. Don't feel the need to maintain it, the code should be self-documenting.

>>173431165
0. They should do it for the exposure.

>>173431165

0.00 USD

Music fags are so desperate for work that they will do anything, even work for free. The biggest losers of game devving you might say.

>>173431165
I pay ~$40/minute, which was by far the best price I could find for quality orchestral stuff

>>173431165
You can just get one of royalty-free tracks from links in the first post.

Is it better to keep all my animations in one maya file and use layers to toggle shit on/off, or should I separate them into different scene files?

I have a lot of dynamics I need to simulate, and making transitions for each animation and managing the dynamics to be seamless seems fucking ridiculous.
How do I keep my shit organized?

>>173429182
With that money and neet bucks, you can do it anon.

>>173431605
Separate files.

when should you use area2d in godot?

>>173432690
Basic area detection, it also detects several collisions at the same time which is nice.

>>173431165
What kind of track are you wanting? Obv. orchestral, but any other details beyond that?

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So... this is the powers of doing art fundamentals.

wow.

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>>173429379
Thank you so much!

>>173433076
atleast your arts finally improved cristian

>>173432798
but it also has nice things like gravity point, how would I join a rigidboy with an area2d?

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Guess who's making a WebGL Runescape clone?

>>173433729
wizmud?

>>173433729
You almost have the 2010 pot-hd look

>>173433729
Don't do it dude, at least work on a competent client and port it to webgl later.

>>173416318
why do you make this post in every thread? nobody uses UE4 here for C++ performance, we use it because its a feature rich engine that's mostly easy to use.

>>173433487
Dunno, I never played with physics on Godot and I'm only using Area2D for collision detection.

I think you can make it like this:

RigidBody2D
- Area2D
-- CollisionShape2D

>>173416318
Firstly, it actually will because the engine's core is significantly more efficient than, say, unity's, and in particular the peripheral systems do not suffer from egregious gc pauses.

Secondly, the UE4 C++ api is unusable. People who use UE4 use blueprints, which are about 10x slower than C++. Knowing that, they haven't chosen UE4 for the sake of using a down-to-the-metal language for muh speed, obviously.

Thirdly, UE4 is by far the best general engine of its class. It's not good but it's all there actually is. Everything else is in a different class or worse.

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>>173433317
>tfw I want to make a chibi fighter but your skills keep making realistic anime characters

Also, what is a good pixel art software to do animations?

>>173434594
aesprite

>>173434529
>It's not good
You got some high standards.

Are you the same guy who is always complaining about it?

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monster girl gamu!

>>173434920
I'm not too often in these threads but I complained about it once or twice. Don't know if you're referring to me or someone else.

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Hows this water level looking so far agdg?

>>173435010
W-Waht

>>173435507
>trees blocking your view
no, bad

>>173435507
>hmm, people say the game has troubles with visibility
>I KNOW, I'LL PUT A BUNCH OF TREES IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA!

>>173435507
not sure considering my view keeps changing every 1.5 seconds

>>173435507
Do you have a webm of a level being cleared? I don't think I have seen that before.

>>173429182
I did this
>had enough for a full year of expenses
>already had moderate programming experience/knowledge
>spent the first two months just playing games and getting high
>made a lot of progress but not enough to sell a completed game

Recommendations would be, settle on a design, have it nailed down so you arent blinded by all your free time and think you can keep re-designing and starting over. Pick one thing and DO it.

Depending on how NEET you are, its tempting to go full hermitmode, and if you do, it IS possible that you'll lose all relationships you have, friendships etc. Unless you put up effort, people will stop engaging with you.

Its good for motivation to just work and work and work with no interruptions, but only if you can get results.

In summary:
Don't do it unless youre already skilled enough where 1 day of work actually yields one unit of progress. If you're still babbymode, don't do it yet.

Don't let yourself skitter hither and yon between ideas, its fun for learning but fritters away your valuable time.

If social things matter to you, you have to keep it up, otherwise it'll wither

Expect to take time to indulge/enjoy life after working a job you hated for years. Don't hate yourself for it, just deliberately enjoy it and you'll get tired of it eventually to focus on dev.

>>173412754
>he doesn't even play videogames
You have to be a full psycho to call yourself a gamedev when you don't play games. Show me a chef who doesn't eat.

>>173435507
Great besides the trees, goddamn what were you thinking

>>173435953
who are you talking to

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>>173435953
>FOOD ANALOGIES

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>>173416318
>UE4

>>173435953
>/v/
>playing videogames
?

>>173436075
>instantly triggered because he doesn't play vidya and is autistic about "food analogies"
Stop taking your name off gogem. Like seriously what's the point? Do you think we can't tell?

>>173412754
why he removed webm section?

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Added healthbars on enemies. Wonder if I should add stamina too, like in Nioh

>>173435895
Why is the summary longer than the rest of the post?

>>173435953
>a chef who doesn't eat.
More like a McDonald's employee who doesn't eat junk food, which is pretty common.

>>173436357
Oh I see, it's that time of day. Carry on.

>>173435736
>>173435770
>>173435960
But the trees are giving a cinematic view of leaves in the corners of the screen! I-i-its art.
Or do you mean that the trees look bad?

>>173435867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR3Ko0HvqI4&t=643s

There is an old version of bokube from 5 months ago you can watch it has some levels being cleared I suppose.

>>173436385

Why is he flying?

>>173436385
i mean youre making a souls clone so you might as well

>>173436385
I think you should simply because it conveys the idea that enemies do not have infinite stamina (a very common pattern in games) and encourage players to strategize based on that (and consider stamina as part of the properties upon which the AI can reason). Of course, it's always better to show than to tell, though.

Bethesda's hiring a Senior Core Tech Engineer

Responsibilities

Writing clear, maintainable, portable C++ code
Participating in code and architecture reviews
Taking lead on solving complicated tasks assigned to you
Optimizing memory, CPU, and GPU utilization across multiple platforms
Maintaining, extending, and adding new core engine features
Working as part of a team of engineers, including mentoring junior engineers

Requirements

Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science or related field, or equivalent experience
Excellent analytical and mathematical skills, especially related to 3D and graphics programming
Years of programming experience in C++
Graphics programming experience
Excellent data structure and algorithm knowledge
Good architecture and software engineering skills
Experience with (and desire to) work on core game technology
Good organization and time management skills
Strong communication skills and ability to collaborate with teammates
The ability to work comfortably within a team environment that encourages strong software engineering, coding standards, and code reviews

Desired Skills

Shipped titles as a core tech engineer
A passion for gaming and working knowledge of AAA products
Experience with the C++ standard library (including the STL)
Experience with C++ 11/14/17
Experience with multithreaded programming
Experience with platforms or operating systems other than Windows
Experience with physically based rendering techniques
Experience with Vulkan or DX12
Experience with scripting languages, such as Lua or Python
Experience developing for online multiplayer environment
Experience in Max or Maya plugins
Experience with game editor plugins/modification


https://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/1330

>>173436468
>But the trees are giving a cinematic view of leaves in the corners of the screen! I-i-its art.
are you shitposting?
I honestly cant tell if this is a joke or not

>>173436608
I wouldn't hire a programmer who had previously worked on Bethesda games, they're all broken as shit

>>173436608
>Writing clear, maintainable, portable C++ code
Stopped reading there.

What are some well-programmed games source's to take a look at for insight into not being a shit programmer? Ideally smaller games. Something like doom is about as big as I think I should reasonably go, but the smaller the better. Alternatively just recommend specific parts of larger games worth taking a look at.

>>173436468
Place the trees further away so they don't go in front of the camera. They look fine in the background but not covering the screen whenever you rotate.

>>173436462
So you don't think we can tell?
Mental.

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>>173436531
because I like this character

>>173436581
yeah pretty much what comes to my mind too

>>173436993
>getting attached to a store asset
youre fucking up m8

>>173436687
>these gigantic games had a few bugs so they're broken as shit and everyone involved is stupid and I am not
>>>/v/ this thread is for people who actually have a clue what is involved in a game.

>>173437146
Thanks Todd

>>173437146
>this thread is for people who actually have a clue what is involved in a game.
Then why are you here? You are the most clueless of anyone currently in this thread.

>>173437137
what store asset?

>>173436608
Pretty fair for a AAA studio. I don't understand how they have standards like this and still release buggy messes though.

>>173437137
>what is yandere simulator
>going to be kickstarted for millions of dollars
>already has publishing and developing houses on board all happy to work with a Unity store asset
Jim Sterling from 2015 called he wants his sassy faggot opinions back.

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@173437146
forgot your name todd
>>173437242
your knight model

>>173436608
>Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science or related field, or equivalent experience
What is the experience equivalent of a BS in CS?
Just four years of industry work?

>>173437328
He made it himself though.

>>173437235
>no u
Ok master game dev my mistake.

>>173437396
he did not.
He hold us awhile ago it was bought

I'd say so. Maybe even 2 or 3 depending on where you worked and what your role was. Every under requirements is pretty much what you learn in school anyway.

>>173437452
No he didn't.
Hell I was here when he was posting progress of that model.

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>>173436682
>>173436889
Ok senpai. Gonna add a crap enemy.

>>173437217
>>173437235
>>173437328
He's right though.

>>173437528
meant for
>>173437348

>>173437328
https://afkmods.iguanadons.net/Unofficial%20Skyrim%20Legendary%20Edition%20Patch%20Version%20History.html

>literally tens of thousands of bugs

>>173437328
>literally naming screenshots wew.jpg when he's making an obvious statement that games have bugs
Yes games have bugs especially gigantic games with proprietary physics engines, that doesn't mean any one programmer from bethesda isn't most likely a better gamedev than you.

>>173437695
Holy shit, we have an actual Bethesda shill here.

>>173436993
you could just add a visual indicator for when an enemy's stamina is depleted, less cluttered and more natural that way.

>>173437596
>he was posting progress of that model.
His custom animation system was not progress on the model, youre mistaken

>>173437772
>being this shitposty because someone has a different opinion

give me ideas for a loli game with minimal art

>>173437935
I know. I wasn't talking about that.
I'm sorry you're jelly, but it's true.
He even posted the fucking character design sketches.

>>173438039
Visual novel where you play as a blind person

>>173437289
>buggy messes
Because they do ambitious things. An enemy can follow you practically anywhere in the game, through doors that change levels for example. How many other AAA games do that?

No excuse for their shitty inventory system however

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Anyone have some useful infographics?

>>173438238
I wouldn't mind a bunch of misplaced trees and the occasional buggy physics but Bethesda games have several completely broken quests, savegame killers and such, it's basically unplayable without unofficial patches.

But this speaks more about their terrible quality assurance and organization than the capabilities of their programmers.

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would you play a chibi porn game

>>173432947
east west chorus would be nice, but i know how expensive those samples are.

Basically something like this would be really cool

https://soundcloud.com/oneymusic/holy-frig

but that's probably breddy expensive

>>173438626
post lewds now

Is it stupid to do a switch statement on a single character? Like
switch (charVariable)
case #:
break;
case _:
break;
etc

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>>173438626

>>173438626
Sure. Now post your models instead of Squaredev's.

>>173438626
I think it's best if you go work on your other game

>>173429379
I have no idea what the fuck is going on

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Languagedev in Rust!

>>173438626
Maybe. Some kinds of chibi porn are too lax on the anatomy for me to stomach and if pic is the kind of style you're going for it falls in the category that isn't actually appealing to me.

>>173426657
thanks, but it's perfectly square. I don't think my guy knew what he was talking about.

>>173438753
I don't see why it would be

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>>173436608
>tfw 5 years of Blender experience doesn't count

>>173439179

But it's so simple!

>>173438039
Roguelike where you must defeat evil loli wizards attacking your castle

>>173439842
It's mainly a programming job so obviously not. Unless you can program 3D graphics yourself.

>>173436608
>tfw I chose to be an artist instead of a programmer
fuck, I'm just gonna be a minimum wage brushmonkey my whole life, wont I?

>>173439991
>He doesn't make his graphics 100% procedurally in-engine

>>173440107
Not if you build a decent portfolio that demonstrates your skills.

>>173440107
Are you actually making a living of it? I'm curious about your situation and what path you took to get there, if you don't mind sharing.

This is probably a dumb question, but I want to make a method that does, say, x -2, where x can be different variables. How do I accomplish this?
If I do like
Subtract(int x)
{
x -= 2;
}
it doesn't work, obviously.
Maybe I should use ref? I've never used it before so I'm not sure.

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>easily avoidable
>not fun to kill them
Back to the drawing board.

>>173431165
>Black and yellow, black and yellow
Fix the lighting and post processing before anything else my man

eh
https://youtu.be/CZpWOfl8Qwo

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>>173435507
>water level
>the water of the level is completely irrelevant

>>173440430
Wow you're right, that is a dumb question.

Subtract(int x)
{
return x - 2;
}

a = 10
a = Subtract(a)
b = Subtract(7)

>>173440437
That looks fine as a generic enemy that comes up sometimes. Just don't make it an enemy that appears constantly.
Maybe have it only be in spots where the player needs to put a ladder anyways.

>>173440624
Well shit, I'm retarded. Thank you.

>>173436397
>i hate video games so i choose to spend hours of my free time to work on them as a hobby

>>173440623
literally all of his levels are just for show

>>173440430
the real question is why would you need to do that, but I would reccomand reading up in valuvs referance types.
the answer to your quetion tho is ether something like:
Subtract(ref int x)
{
x -= 2;
}

or the better way:

int Subtract(int x)
{
return x -= 2;
}

where you would say :
int x = 5;
int y = Subtract(x); // where y would be 3.

>>173417447
>putting AA on a pixelated game

>>173440623
hey boku do you have a mechanic where you can drop your solution cube in a river and it moves across the level? there is an actual water mechanic

>>173441647
>>173435507
wrong target

>>173436385
Looks lit senpai

>>173440437
put 30 of then on the same run and try to avoid then

>>173440983
FXAA on pixelshit is art

>>173435010
Damn, nice. I claim spook girl.

>>173435010
Where can I play this?

What is the AGDG Approved™ way to dev a 2D game in C++?

>>173417317
!tp museum

>>173443134
Choose an engine that uses C++

>>173443134
Balls deep - SDL2+OpenGL, toes in - SFML.

>>173440430
pub fn subtract(x: &mut i32) {
(*x) -= 2;
}

let mut x = 10;
subtract(&mut x);
println!("My little {} can't be this cute!", x);

>>173443134
SFML or SDL
GLFW if you want to roll your own sprites and audio solution.

>>173443226
Thanks chief, but the only "C++" engine popular on agdg is UE4, for 3D.

>>173443253
>using Source Filmmaker to develop a 2D game
???

>>173443253
SFML is literally just a shitty version of SDL.

>>173443253
>>173443335
>there's really no better way

o-okay thanks