/wtg/ - War Thunder General

first for this game is fucking shit

second for this game is fucking shit

third for this game is fucking shit

last for we all love sucking dicks

nth for shitpost

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>>173344856
>this game is so shit that i better create new thread to bitch about it and samefag

really tickles my anus

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>>173274494

>T20 has stabilizer now

Gucci

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>Fw 190 attacks stalled Yak
>Ignites him
>Dive in with my Bf 109 and take the kill
Swear to god, Focke-niggers.

>>173347354
you wrote that yesterday
no one's impressed today either

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Oh so this app does do something

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>Driving IS-2 vs Americans, Germans and Brits on Finland
>oneshot T-29 through turret mantlet
>two tiger 1s show up and get insta rekt
>3 or 4 M18s practically line up to die
>Tortoise and I shoot eachother at the same time
>we both die
>Respawn in IS-2 and kill spawncamping Centurion
>Cap A and kill pesky kugelshits and M19s
>die due to F8F-1B
>respawn in Pe-8 and kill bearcat
>5000kg of communism on enemy spawn and kill three
>game ends with me at the top with 11 tanks dead and two planes destroyed
Is no such thing as Russian Bias comrade! You are just imagining things!

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>>173347698
I don't care if anyone's impressed, just reminding people that Focke-wulfs are handheld, braindead pilots

>>173348243
with made up stories, posted on /wtg/ of all places?

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>>173348442
>made up
Just because focke-niggers can't aim for shit doesn't mean they're made up.

>>173348518
effort you make, sequence, same wording every post and obligatory shit quality anime picture pretty much proves your stories to be made up for sake of shitposting

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>>173349267
>same wording every post
Do you want me to speak in posh English, then retarded hillbilly every time I post an experience? I see dumb shit every day in War Thunder.
>obligatory shit quality anime picture
I just have a large collection of anime pictures, autist.

>>173347980
can you use bluestacks

>90% of the enemy team is is-6

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>slickbee thinks he's white

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzWzkG2MoaA

>it's a "round with 240mm of penetration bounces off a premium tank's hull with an effective thickness of 140mm" episode
Subhumans-known-as-slavs culling when?

>>173347980
Just free eagles? Surely there are hoops to go through, right?

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Just saw a thread complaining about how WW2 tanks have to fight post war tanks. I laughed my ass off because he saying that KT's shouldn't have to fight IS3,or IS6 when there more of them irl than there were panther 2s that is in game.

>>173357258
How do they think I feel when I have to fight that shit in a 76 Sherman

>>173356245
It's decent if you have an old phone to just install shit on.

>>173357554
T-29. And T-34 have as much aright to be included as Tiger 2 105. Wehraboos are just as retarded as teaboos

>>173321816
yes
Cent 1 is great
FV4202 is a fucking meme that can one shot tiger 1 crews with ease
currently making my way to Caer, can't say further than that
my tip is to grind to the comet with the churchills, preferably the 3, then skip the challenger straight to the cent
also make sure to grind planes at the same time
firefly is a ground RB god, and the hawkers are great multi-role fighters

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http://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/686/
>FV4202 - stabilizer emulation has been fixed
I chose literally the perfect time to play that fucking thing

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>>173358920
>Object 906 can accelerate forwards and backwards at the same rate now.

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>>173358920
>T29 and T-34 neutral steering
yay
>KV-2 armor pen increased
Its gulag time.

>>173352063
>png
>1.35MB

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Does /wtg/ like the La-9?

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>>173359624
Object 906 got neutral steering too.

>spit9 complains about US teams
>says he's going to ground pound because we're going to lose anyway
>fly up behind him and shred him with fiddies
>climb or die

teamkilling feels so damn good when it's applied to these retards

>>173360929
we won because everyone else climbed too

23mm buff when?
excluding the fucking Tu-4 of course

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>>173362742
>23mm and 20mm buff
yay
>only for TU-4 and Pe-8 ))))))))))))
I don't know how to feel about this.

>kill tiger II gunner and commander
>immediately returns fire
everyone driving that thing needs to be lined up and shot

>Entire match is 6.0 props vs 7.0 jets

ahhhhhhh

>ostnigger one shots my tank frontally because gaijin is fucking terrible at modeling armor
game devs being replaced with competent people when?

>be jap sherman
>fight cent 3s 90% of the time
Quantitative matchmaking by BR LITERALLY when?

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When?

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>germans have the power to make shells take 90 degree turns after hitting flat armor

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I am blessed ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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dead game dead general

>shoot enemy
>clearly hits him, there's nothing to stop it
>literally just a puff on him
>not even a hit)))))
fuck off game

>fire tank round through iron or chicken wire fence
>round disappears or doesn't registers
>but the fence is down at least so the enemy tank can return fire and one-shot s me

WOW
FUCK THIS GAYM

It's fucking shit

>>173369369
Stop playing tanks, its a cancerous grindfest.

>>173369369
don't use CHEAT-FS, nigger

>>173369749
Wait, does the IS-2s chicken coop really stop cheat-bs?

>>173370083
No. Neither does the M46's.

>>173370083
of fucking course not
if it's connected to your tank, it means jack fucking shit

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>>173370273
>>173370224
Okay, you guys were right. But it does stop all other types of incoming shells! xaxaxaxaxa ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

So the BR-281U for the ZSU-57 is useless now?

>>173371002
seems that way
BR-281 was fine anyways

>>173371268
Was that the shell everyone used anyway? Both hull break AND round-nerf seems like a bad loss of the ZSU players

>spawn in around 6.7 battle rating range
>only non-premium tank in the battle
any excuses that gaijin needs money are bullshit

>>173371461
ZSU is entirely useless now
I mean it was bad before, any hit to ammo nuked it, at least in my experience, but not all hits hit ammo
now if you sneeze within a kilometer of it, it just dies
love how they still haven't nerfed any german flak aside from the tier 1 and 2 flak and the gepard

>>173371617
Which ones are you talking about? The Wirbelwind can only fuck stuff up att lower tiers(turret rings, gun breaches and barrel). And the 37s AP rounds with 60mm max pen aren't too good either

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>173371852
>can only fuck up stuff at low tiers
it can fuck up most fucking things
plus it's universal to all planes, and it's a fucking bitch to kill

>>173372156
>extremely inaccurate quad 23s that can't snipe
>5+ sec reload
These things are even easier than Ostwinds in planes, never been killed by one in a tank.

>>173372416
>can't snipe
tell that to all the wirbelniggers who've sniped me 3km out
and it's got a 1.3 second stock reload, dumbfuck

>>173373079
You are talking about the Wirblewind, with 4 23mms right? That thing has a 5+ sec reload and a abysmal magazine which takes maybe 0.5s to empty

>>173373157
Wirbelwind doesn't have 23s, retard, it has 20s.

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>>173373391
Anon, I....

>>173373752
>wiki
>accurate

>>173373949
Is this what they call "New level of autism"?

>>173373752
>look ma! I know how to edit a wiki!

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>>173374216
>>173374228

>>173374304
Fuck off, you lost. Get over it.

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>>173374342

Why is the grind so much faster in arcade?

>>173374487
Me.

>>173374528
because you can respawn.

>>173374228
The fact that it has 20mm and again proved it's more than 5 seconds makes whoever think this thing is hard to fight even a bigger shitter

>>173374710
Bigger shell doesn't always mean better. Compare the AN/M3 to the NS-23.

>>173374876
No, but at long range you can't possible get hit by more than 2 rounds from this thing and if the user is experienced

>>173374663
why does simul and arcade let you unconditionally respawn but realistic doesn't

>>173375361
Cause fuck you. )))))))))))

ARCADE PRIDE TILL I DIE

>decide to try out soviet tanks after dropping them for years
>first shots of the game "bounce" of the side of a jumbo
>bounce again of the side of a panther
>look at shells
>I had set the tank to start with HE all that time ago
wew I feel embarrassed now

Is P-80 really a good beginner jet? Because I'm getting my ass pounded in it and was doing better in the Mig-9.

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>>173377959
Mig-9 have a nice punch, with it's 37, and 23 mm.
While P-80 is going to spark, most of the times, with its 50 cals.

>>173377959
Yes. My friend has the P-80 and I grinded through the F2H. Grind the P-80 and the F-84, learn 2 jet. Get a Mig-15 or F-86

can someone remind me why the conqueror is so bad?
looks perfectly fine, if not great at it's BR, and I don't see why it was moved down from 7.7.

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>be me
>driving in japanese tanks because THEY are the best
>See something in distance
>Fat american m2
>Shoots machine guns at me
>lag.jpg
>fire strong nippon shell
>bounce
>he shoots me
>implode

10/10 would nippon steel again

Did the Object 906 get a reverse speed buff?

>>173382519
Why do all Japanese players have ki 100's???

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the fuck is this?

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>when the enemy team is dead so you decide to have an orgy
>>173382852
yes
>>173383128
extra armor)))))))))))

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>>173383369
So I can finally deflect fascist shells with my engine effectively now?

>>173383445
yes

is the game still biased in favor of the commies

>just bought a makarov
>finally getting into other hobbies and beginning to forget about this shit game
who else /liberated/ here?

>>173384013
no

>>173350239
50/50
some say it works, didnt for me

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kek

>>173384448
>tfw got into car simming instead of this
at least the expensive shit is physical instead of fake planes

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>Warcrimes: the jet

>>173384448
>leave slavshit
>buy slavshit

Sorry dude, you are forever trapped.

>>173391978
That's not a Lancaster, though

>>173384448
>makarov
fuck I need to get one of those for concealed carry, I've been meaning to get my hands on one
>>173392440
victors write history))))))))

>Ru niggers still haven't been put at 7.7 where they belong

>>173393493
8.7*

>>173393532
nah it doesn't have a stabilizer
if it had one though, I would whole heartedly agree

>>173393532
10.0*

>>173392440
>lancaster
>jet

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>>173393859
yes

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>T26E1-1 and M26E1 have basically the same gun
>T26E1-1 needs a special system to hold the gun up but the M26E1 doesn't

>>173394995
>What is the thick and very heavy plate of metal mounted in front of the original mantlet
>Longer barrel means heavier barrel
I don't see the issue.

>>173394995
The M26E1 had a more properly adapted gun rather than the T26E1's which was basically nigger-rigged onto the tank.

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>rocket directly contacts wirbelshitter
>not even a hit)))))))

>>173384013
It never was in the first place

>one friendly and me left
>5 enemies
>I die and don't have anymore SP
>join and finish another match
>look at notification that just popped up
>"you won the match you fucking left"
jfc

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XP-

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-72!!

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>it's another enemy hits the seam where the armor gets thin enough for them to pen episode

>>173359220
Is for balance ))))))

>>173377959
P80's acceleration is abysmal, you need to fly both smart and conservatively

I've heard from sekrit sources that in one of the upcoming patches, the A7M will get a huge buff, allowing it to beat Spitfires in a sustained turn. Have Spitniggers finally been eternally BTFO?

Also reminder to play P-51D-30 and P-47N with friends for fun sealclubbing.

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>>173401349
>A7M will get a huge buff
it's already the best plane at it's BR range
what the fuck is going through gaijin's head to think buffing weebs is better than nerfing them?
they already have the best air tree in game, do they really need to be able to kill entire teams with a single plane while the person flying it is literally unconscious?
fuck weebs, they need to be straight up deleted from the fucking game

>>173401349
trashfires unable to recover

>>173401498
Complain to that stupid tundra nigger VSN who was too dense to get its FM right on launch when the A7M2 was at 5.3, but he sadly is a literal retard. That thing is unironically turning too badly right now, it should indeed be a lot better.
Have fun with le statistical BRs now.
4 . 3
.
3

>>173401498
kys teebtoddler

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>>173382519
the nippon tanks that have huge shells scare the shit out of me when i run into them and i don't have a round ready. the lob of death

I'm kinda new lads but here's my favorite tank atm

American tanks in tier 2 got boring. I'm working on the kv1-11 right now

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>its a "your team would rather lose the game so they can spawn fuck" episode

Folland Gnat when?

>>173404281
>playing the objective

L.O.L!

>>173404692
>Not wanting to win so you actually get rp
war blunder general

>>173405194
>*braaap*

yeah, thats what i thought

>>173402787
>Abandoned yanks
>Has meme shit on his fag tank
Use some rope after the burgers loan you some and use it to fucking neck yourself vidor

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for once i actually feel like riding on the tank with my head of of the cupola

>>173404342
>a plane only manlets could fit inside
no

>>173406872
how do you set it like that?

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>>173407268
you cant. it only works on the type61 if you face the turret that way

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>>173406838
i'm a yank and will fuck your ass with the speedy commie tanks

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>actually having fun again in weeks

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FUGG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdqTHE4BySY

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IT'S THEM, THE DEMONS OF RAZGRIZ.
What the fuck happened to my plane.

>>173368052
>everybody is a chick except for the buff Nip
kek

>>173412883
Prototype night fighter stealth camo

>Rookie golden battles wager
>Achieve victory having at least one player vehicle destroyed
>Requirement: At least one vehicle of the rank 3-4 in crew slots

So does this mean I have to destroy a vehicle with crew ranking 3-4, or that I need to have one of my own destroyed that has 304 crew ranking? I'm guessing I need to destroy enemies since the stages are up to 10.

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>start match
>cyrillic in chat
we lost

>>173410712
>Uranus
xDD

>>173414380
You need one vehicle of rank 3 or 4, not crew level/skill. Just choose the lowest BR for Rank 3 you have, and then customize your vehicles from there. It's also easiest in Air Arcade

>>173414380
>you need at least one vehicle of tier 3 in your lineup
>you need at least one kill each match
>you have to win the match
I suggest axis 3.7 at the moment

>>173414553
>>173414658
Oh well fuck, I haven't really touched planes yet because I'm pretty sure I'd basically be a barrage balloon in uselessness. Only have an M10 GMC that's rank 3+. Thank god the wager doesn't have a time limit to use.

>>173414776
I havent touched planes in ages so i only know about the axis 3.7s curbstomping others

>>173414776
Once you activate a wager it's the next 10/15/20 rounds.

>apds comes within 3 feet of a track
>"hit )))))))))))))))))))))"
Russians should unironically be genocided.

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>>173414423
>post an opinion
>attach a weeb picture
you lost

>>173418909
>complaining about anime
>posts filthy frank
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/

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>you will never tie anton to a chair and hull break his family in front of him

How do I successfully use a burger plane? Just getting into the plane part of the game and don't want to be the worst guy on the team. I do remember reading that they don't climb well, but that's about as much as I know.

>>173420456
buy the spitfire

>>173382990
Because it's better than the shitty 61s, it has tons of cannon ammo, and it can actually dive.

>>173420731
>6900 eagles, rank 4
Holy fuck. Even if I had the eagles I don't want to go into rank 4 for my first battles.

>>173421162
Then aim for the F6F and the P51

tfw no one cares gives a shit about the bote cbt

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>>173422898
Objectively the 2nd best boat in the pre cbt.

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>there are people that don't do the Tier IV grind with the Jumbo

after 3.7 whats the next fun BR rating?

>>173424916
6.7

>>173425026
I will believe you

>>173425079
Don't.

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>>173425079
Don't believe his lies. If you must go higher than 3.7 then go no higher than 6.3, Once you get past that try to stay around 14.3 to 18 or whatever the highest BR is, I can't remember.

>>173422898
>cbt
We're not even that far, yet.

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Why the hell does the Mig-17 cost twice as much as the hunter? Crew train is half as much for hunter too.

>>173426032
Gaijin has no idea how to make a tier v

>>173426926
be good

>>173426926
You have your team that is made up of 90% hunters kill them

>>173426926
To fight the bias one must become the bias. Put the red star on all your vehicles and the game will be so confused that it will give you the magic bias powers and you win!

>>173424634
What earns you so much shit, when I get a round like yours I get a fraction of all that

>>173427498
*Disclaimer; does not work for vehicles of German origin, Tiger, Panther, Panzer 4, etc...

>>173427793
I'm somewhat sure that maybe 2 people on my team had 10% to allies, but just fucking taking hit from every dipshit T-34 and IS-1 who don't know to hit the MG port earns you tons of RP

>>173427793
Premium tank and I assume he has premium time as well.

War thunder the movie
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sj4pEm7FkU

>>173427971
>has an ad for fucking premium on the fucking scorecard

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>tfw you see a bulldog in your 5.3 sherman

a-at least we had two of them!

a-and a jumbo!

>>173427948
Yeah I figured, did you have your own high booster on too I take it?
I can never ever perform well if I get a good booster, then a few games later I'll come top with 10 kills and get fuck all

Is the Sea Venom still a piece of crap?

>>173429109
>Sea Venom
>Sea
No its a pile of carp.
>match label; lobster

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Anybody got some nice PostFX settings to share?

why do hispanos sound like sci fi lasers

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>>173430690
Because Gaijin likes to make their guns sound like shit:
>tfw Hispanos will never sound like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc9E8_ZuESQ

>Internet radio
How is it?

>set last player alive on fire
>game starts counting down because all enemies are dead
>but the last guy is not dead yet, just burning
>game ends before I can get the kill
)))))))))))))))

are american heavy tanks better or worse than british ones?

>>173433378
better definitely

>>173433378
>>173433601
Both have their good and poor ones

>>173433378
Caern is pretty good but T29 and T-34 are amazing

>>173433378
Burger 3.0 to 5.0 heavies are alright, I mean the fucking 75s may have to deal with Tigers but you can knock the barrel and tranny out with 2 APCRs

>>173425079
6.7 is literally just teams of Tiger IIs Ru 251s and IS-6s rolling over every single thing.

The Road for the Brave - the Po-2 strikes back!

The most fun I've ever had with this cardboard wonder!

>J7W STILL at 6.0
>F. Mk. 24 STILL at 6.7

Why is this allowed?

>>173435689
Because Gayjew are weebs

So seriously, the fucking plates on the T-44-100 basically make it invulnerable to the Bulldog's APDS. 6 fucking shots in the side and only one penetrated to do damage, the rest were just consumed in the aether between the plates and the hull.

What a fucking joke.

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>Gaijin considers this and the T26 equal to the Ru 251 and Tiger II H

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>Get best squad at game end
>Bombs explode and kill me at last second before score board
>Now shows another squad got best
>Still get medal and points from best squad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz9FdwlyQBk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz9FdwlyQBk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz9FdwlyQBk

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oP-2

>>173438317
I think you mean
2-oP

Are HE shells for tanks allowed in Road for the Brave?

Are they actually effective?

>>173438919

The M22 has them... and the tank that has shot me down the most so far is the M22. Not proof, but it looks like they're worth taking. Don't think any of the other tanks do.

*spitniggers*

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>>173437562
daily reminder that the reason why gayjew only added pt boats is because the sovishit union didn't have a fucking nation

>>173440782
navy*

>>173440782
So why not just add Destroyers or Frigates? While USSR destroyers and frigates were shit, would've at least made the mode a bit more fun

>>173441482
Gaijin is lazy kikes

>>173440782
>>173441482

Gaijin said they might consider destroyers/frigates

Can anyone explain why I can't kill or substantially damage any fucking tank in a LaGG-3-8? There's no fucking way an M22 should survive 300 rounds of a 20mm to the roof that should penetrate 27mm of armor.

>>173441623
get good__________________

>>173441623
I think damage models in AB might be buffed since anyone can get into a plane at nearly everytime.

Fortunately 88 trucks can still be hull broken by crashing into them.

>>173434506
>Tiger IIs
>not T29/T34
OK burgerboo.

>>173401349
M1 or M2? I already turn with Mk IXs in my M1 and if they buff it more I hope they move it to tier IV so I can club jets in it.

>>173393493
>posted as I'm unable to kill a laserpointer that I can pen frontally with my fiddy

Cold thunder update when?? Modern jets confirmed when??? BR decompression when???? Reward increase when????? Spaghetti tree when??????

>>173444078
>Reward increase when?
Anon...

>>173444357
Boats completely scrapped and developers reassigned to different projects when???

>>173444596
Gaijin offices firebombed and their families killed when???????

>grinding arcade as per usual
>upscaled a whole BR, as usual
>see an enemy t25 rolling up
>stay behind cover because I want that tank and wanna see how it does
>Tiger 2 drifts round a corner and blows the fuck out of it
I think I saw my own future

Anyone got any advice for a new starter?

[mainly what british tank to aim for if you like ground n pound]

went with Britland; enjoying the game so far.

>>173444839
Entirety of Russia nuked and Karelia returned to Finland when?

>>173444967
Brits have an extremely painful mid game in tanks, but the Cromwell 1 is fun. if you want a good ground pounder the firefly mk v is one of the strongest in the game

>>173445071
Fuck Finland

>>173444967
>what british tank to aim for if you like ground n pound
How are they related?
I would advise not to play British tanks unless you're good at the game
In any case the tank should always be the Churchill Mk.VII, because it's like a bit of comic relief

>>173444967
Don't play the game.

>>173445128
I've not played bongs in a while, is the Firefly good now? I saw it got a BR drop

>>173445149
[angry throat singing in the distance]

>>173445361
Fuck Finland.
Invading that shithole was the only good idea Slavniggers ever had and even that they failed

Post good ideas
Germany is scrapped and Finland is added
Japan is removed entirely from the game, because they're already in via Finland
Also add Polish tree and buff all Russian gear
Also remove T32, Hellcat (plane and tank) and all other good US vehicles
Britain too

>>173445314
The plane? Yes. The tank? No. Get the one with the 16rocket load out

>>173445664
I half read your message like some kind of moron, my bad
Shame the tank's still shit

>>173445590
Remove all maps but Finland.

>>173444845

>arcade
T25 is fine, but less fine in terms of Arcade where you're gonna be face to face with things most of the time. It can handle most Ruskies it sees frontally, but American 90mm can't handle KT II H at all.

>>173446003
Finnish captured KV 1 should be BR 5.3

>>173441482
>>173441608

Naval mode needs more testing before big ships. Even some of the kinda-big river boats are fucking undeddable without a direct Torp and it's awful to fight them right now.

I bought a Ro-Go. Barn-tank is terrible.

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>>173445590
>>173446003
>>173446203

>>173446196
I get more enjoyment out of RB don't get me wrong, but arcade means more dumb people to annihilate with my M18 and the games go much quicker which helps grind faster
T25 is the next medium, but i'm a bit hesitant about how to get these next few tanks without throwing me into a world of shit
How long can my Hellcats 76 hold up for? I'm just getting the jumbos now and I think i'm gonna get the T25 next, but I need something else I can rely on while i'm in a stock tank

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>swordfish still does not have a rocket loadout
????

>>173446687

I'm not judging, I do both about equally. More AB at low tiers, more RB at high.

Hellcat's 76 works all the way into 8.3 RB no problem, but you gotta stay 90 degrees on the flank and somewhat know where to aim for IS-3s and T-10Ms. KVPTs will cut you to ribbons though.

The only shit you can't really kill with it are IS-4Ms, Maus, and E-100.

>>173447345
Well thank fuck, had a feeling the M18 would be my anchor for a while yet, and I wasn't expecting too much more from it in the first place
Got much experience in the T25? Would you say it's a step up compared to the Shermans (76s specifically) compared to other nations tanks in the same range?

How do I Pe-8?

>>173449180
play ec

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Why aren't you playing a better game /wtg/?

>>173449943
But I am playing Syrian Warfare. Got to mission 3 yesterday and took a break after stopping that Al-Nusra counter attack where they launch a bunch of dudes and a T-62 at you.

>>173441482
>LITERALLY implying the USSR had domestic non-paper destroyers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_destroyers_of_World_War_II

Stop playing WoWS and tell your mother to drop drinking next time she gets pregnant.

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>tfw you realize the indicator in arcade is where your bullets are supposed to go not your cross hair

>>173451975
dumbass spic

>>173451630
not him, but what is wrong with World of
Warships? it's currently one of the only two ways you can play a modern World War II Naval combat MMO that isn't the Coast Guard

>>173453084
Wargoyming fudges as many things as possible for the sake of "balance," infests their games with proto- and papershit, and does a horrible job in general of delivering anything with any semblance to the real life ability of any vehicle in their games.

>>173452017
so how do i shoot good

>>173453395
i as a person love reading about prototypes and their development as long as it's historical i do recognize they change stuff however if you play any of these WW2 mmos, you should do your own research and not use them as your major sources, because sometimes even war thunder does things that aren't historical. so until an undeniably better naval warfare game comes out i will continue to play WoWs and steel ocean, and war thunder, and world of tanks, and if i wanna see a ww2 prototype modeled in game and i have absolutely nothing better to do i may play Wowp -(this happens extremely rarely)

>>173454059
>I like to eat shit

You should never support ahistorical representations of vehicles and where you find them you should lobby to have them corrected to their real life performance.

>>173454381
-50 GE

>>173454381
if the vehicle can be made historical and not break the game, then definitely however as close as possible is better than nothing or a completely broken tier, game, etc.

>>173454895
The problem is that wargaming is shit in both regards. Their vehicles are completely non-representative of reality and their games are still horribly balanced. Compare the Ranger, Hiryu, and Saipan. Each of these are the same tier and the same class, but one is undeniably the best, one the worst, and none are accurate. The USS Ranger, for example, traditionally carried 76 aircraft with the capacity to carry more, but in the game it carries only 58.

>>173455571
and I do hope and want them to re-balance these carriers which i believe they are working on them while also staying as close to historical numbers as possible, now i'm not saying you have to play they game if you don't wanna, but rather then wait for perfection, i am fine with playing while the game(s) hopefully get better

>>173456373
It's not waiting for perfection, senpai, it's refusing to consume literal garbage.

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>playing with a herd of claps
>it's me in my m4 with two other m4s and an m10
>wild soviets appear
>two kv 2s sitting in the middle of the road blocking our advance
>our herd is too afraid to move
>i decide to take one for the team
>i yolo around the corner at them
>both kv 2s fire at me
>i get btfo
>tell my herd to get them
>they all just sit there completely unaware of the 40 second window they have to kill them

>>173456985
i guess i have a lower set of standards then, which i guess is good? for me. then again that could be because there isn't anything else out there currently and having friends to play with (because of the universal rule of video games: it's always better with friends) but again if something else comes out, I will try it and if i feel it is better (design decision or game entirely) i will tell everyone i know/play games with to also try it out

>>173401498

>t. teebshit who tried to turnfight

>>173454059

Besides the KT105 (physically impossible) and Panther II (amalgamation of every best feature regardless of feasibility across two project lineages while being impossibly light); what prototypes aren't historical?

I mean, besides I-185 got spontaneously combusting or something.

>>173447693

I got minimal T25 experience. I spaded it, but I barely remember it. It's a smaller, slow Pershing - but if you're not there, that means nothing to you.

It's gonna move like a heavy tank, has nearly irrelevant armor, and a gun that makes you want more penetration; but the APHE is nuclear. It's hard to actually NOT one-shot things when you penetrate with it.

If you somehow appear on people's sides, you're going to absolutely delete them with the APHE. Which you should get as soon as fucking possible - the AP and APCR do nothing other than alert enemies to your direction.

>>173459695
Deebly goncerned
I'm sure I'll enjoy those M82 shells though, and much better reverse from Shermans I think will help me out a lot

>>173459457
oh, i guess i should have clarified myself, war thunder is undeniably better staying historical, what i meant by war thunder making mistakes, i meant smaller things like armor plates/layouts(ex. T32's lower plate) and components (ex: some tanks not having properly modeled spall shields for whatever reason, and the T28 going into combat without the second set of tracks installed i guess you could thank WoT's stupidity for that meme) and having to research fire extinguishers and shit every damn time. i just made mention of it because although much better, war thunder isn't perfect and although they have had a better history of making things more accurate they still do stupid shit. that hopefully whatever they do is in the interest of balance. i hope for the day that they have a player base that is large enough that the could make everything 100% historical and just balance by stretching out the tiers

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>Come flying out at full speed around corner to kill Pz IV
>Its barrel was in the exact spot my skidding stopped
>Went up like a roman candle instantly
I hope I made the guy laugh cause that was stupid as fuck.

>>173459457
>what prototypes aren't historical?
Horten has the wrong engines. If it were the V3 as it were labled it wouldn't have guns either.

What is the best aiming distance for beginning planes? I'm keeping it set at default 400m for now.

>>173462629
300m

t64 when

>>173462812
When they add the MBT-70.

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>>173462921
now i can roleplay as CIA psyops

>>173462921
but thats paper

>>173463320
ur mums paper cuz ur adopted lmaoo

>>173463320
Kill yourself Slavnigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB_8iOCm92c

>>173463320
prototypes built =/= paper

>>173463448
more paper than t64
plus the turret's so fat, what kind of nigger would want this

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>>173463389
>>173463448
>>173463558
delete these please

>>173460372

M82s basically are 1HKO. They hit like 122 APHE when they pen. The American tree gets worse before it gets better. The M60A1, M551, T34, M103 post-patch, M48A1 after grind to HEAT-FS, M56 Scorpion, Wanker Bulldog after grind to APDS, T92 after grind to APDS, etc, etc. All great fun.

>>173460727
Laziness and lack of features for some details.
Spall liners yeah, but the game also lacks non-penetration spall almost all together atm.
T32 rework is in the works.
Parts/FPE is for that sick MMO skinner box money, but I agree. And lack of automatic fire extinguishers.
T28/T95 could go into combat without tracks - what's worse is the production version was suppose to have a MUCH better engine. The one it carries is a placeholder to get the trial version moving around. The name is historical too - started as T28, moved to T95; ahistorical comes from separate names for the two and WoT added an imaginary extrusion with less armor on it for balans ))).

>>173460962
Ok yeah, true. Forgot about that one.

>>173463320
Are you literally retarded?

I have a feeling that spaags play a bigger role in if a nation generally wins or losses at a certain br than most people gove them credit for.

>>173464043
Only for some nations. A flakpanzer I can turn the game, an M42 can do literally nothing.

>>173464043
Depends on if you're a German/Russian MBT SPAA or an American/British/Japanese AA SPAA.

>tank shitters
lmao, fucking losers learn to play a real game mode

>bbbut muh call of duty on wheels

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>>173463961
>M48
>good
literally a downgrade from the M47

>>173464043

100%

If a SPAAG can't destroy opposing tanks, especially from the side, don't even fuckin' bother. If Bofors had just 81mm pen, Germany would have a worse time with them.

>>173464226
>>173464264
I mean less about combat capabilities and more about keeping early diers in game rather than just leaving the match because they don't want to spawn in a halftrack when there's no airplanes.

Imagine if you could spawn in a light tank the same way, a good third of the team who normally would be gone may still be in play

>>173464408

Faster ROF
Hull armor seems shitty, but I've had it bounce weird shit before.

Considering that armor is near useless at that BR, I'll take the faster ROF over the slightly smaller/angular turret.

If the HEAT-(FS) on the M46 (and ST-A1/A2) had the IRL pen of 300mm and not 210mm (slavs read a document wrong )))))) ); it'd be the best M4# just for the insane engine and anti-HEAT/HESH cage.

>>173463961
last time i read up on the T95/T28 the removal of the second set of tracks was only for transport mode (the second set could become some sort of trailer to be pulled behind), and it would realistically never try go into combat emphasis on try because ambushes do happen without the second set equipped. i will check Hunnicutt's book after i take a quick shower.

>>173464580
I'd much prefer if I could respawn in my T-44 or my IS-2 or some other tank as many damn times as I please like in the April fools event. But why would Gaijin do that? People might be able to grind tanks in less than a year.

>>173464662

Yeah, I'm just saying theoretically it could, not that they ever would outside an emergency. There's nothing stopping it unless it's on bad ground since it's ground pressure would be horrendous without the second set.

>>173464658
>anti-HEAT cage
doesn't stop HEAT, just HESH

>>173464949

It can under weird circumstances, but yeah, HEAT modeling is fucked around now.

>>173465054
HEAT's currently modeled as a kinetic penetrator and it's fucking retarded
both HESH and HEAT should be a lot like HE's penetration, and not have that orange penetrator thing

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>>173464891

Just checked, yep.

T28/T95 can literally pop off it's second set of tracks and use them as a transport sled/trailer. Doing this on anything that isn't paved road is asking for trouble with the trials engine.

>>173464365
>muh spitnigger climb into space then click on nametag gameplay

what does the (AOS) on m60a1 mean

>>173465382
Add-On Stabilization

>>173465382

Add-On Stabilizer. Didn't roll off the line with them, but was a common upgrade.

The nomenclature is stupid and likely not even accurate, but someone whined on the forum and Gaijin just went "lol sure whatev"

>>173465589
Wikipedia seems to think it's accurate.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M60_Patton#M60A1_series
>M60A1(AOS) was the designation received by M60s equipped with the TLAC, AOS and the new T142 steel track, which had replaceable rubber pads and improved service life.[28]

>>173466168

Yeah, just reconfirmed it in another book. I have that burned in my head though from another tank-sperg friend. Might've been like the ""Hetzer"" and earned the name after-the-fact.

>it's a "premium Tiger II's upper front plate hitbox extends a solid fucking foot above where it should be so all my gunner kill shots disapear" episode

>its a slavaboo doesn't know how to aim to save her life and whines about it on the general episode

>>173467591
kys shill

>>173467673
>its shilling to point out how garbage you are
I hate nu-/wtg/

>playing bore blunder
kys!

>>173442523
It's literally the same airframe, so both. A7M2 still is the thinking man's choice due to lower BR (not facing LF9 and Mk14 cancer) and far better performance while also not giving the Gaijew money and additionally not being a Frankenstein-tier abomination.

>>173467591
>her
kill yourself

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I bought the Strv, what tree do i grind

>>173469515
all of them have good tanks

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>Dogfighting against an He with a P26
That damn turn rate

give me one good reason why every nip plane barring the bombers and tier 5 planes shouldn't all be bumped up a full BR

>>173469049
>she isn't a cute girl
no, YOU kill yourself

>>173470606
Because weebs are worse than weraboos and we would have to hear their wines for years after they got the nerf reversed

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When

>>173471191
>its a crybaby femanon defends weebcancer again episode

>crusader AA mk1 is 4.7, but without any premiums you can't unlock it until you have at least a 5.3
Hmmm

>>173471285
>it's a retard is having verbal diarrhea, spouting random unrelated shit again episode

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WHEN?

preferably at 6.0-6.7 to complete Sky Crawlerthunder

>>173471285
>it's that one that can't stop wetting herself over flying boats

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>>173471457

I would unironically fly bombers if this was in the game.

>>173471453
>>173471547
>assblasted Gaijin shill starts projecting and samefagging
>she actually thinks anyone is falling for this
kys yourself

>>173471639
>playing bore blunder
kys!

Hey guys I'm from /a/ and am wondering if this game has the plane from Sky Crawlers.

>>173471716
>being an anime pedophile
kys

>>173471776

But does this game have the plane from Sky Crawlers?

I really want to fly the plane from Sky Crawlers.

>>173471848
>being an anime pedophile
>playing bore blunder
kys!

>>173471639
>she
nigga I've got a dick

>>173471898

Look, just answer my question man. People on /a/ said this game was great for people who liked Sky Crawlers because you could fly the plane from Sky Crawlers.

I even heard you can do the same maneuvers it does in Sky Crawlers.

>>173470606
Because most of them are tiered correctly from an RB point of view desu.
The only fighters that need BR bumps are the J2M2, A7M2 and maybe the Ki-96 and Ki-100, once Jap "HMGs" actually do damage, the early Ki-43s and especially Ki-44s can get a bump too. The rest is either fine or overtiered.

>>173472042

Oh yeah? Should that one plane everyone always bitches about stay at 6.0?

>>173472042
>from an RB point
no, they aren't
they outclass everything at every tier until tier 5
you're a literal nigger if you don't think that

>>173471963
oh honey, no amount of testosterone will make your clitoris into a dick :)

>>173472006
this game sucks dick, never play it

>>173472189

I don't care about the game as long as I can fly the plane from Sky Crawlers.

Does it have it?

yes or no?

>>173472304
yes

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