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/ndg/ - NieR/Drakenguard General #54

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>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

Ping pong circulate edition

If you have any suggestions or links you think would be useful, then respond with it to the OP and help build up the archives.

>[Official NieR:Automata page]
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

>[DRAKENGARD/NIER COLLECTION ARCHIVE] - World Guides, Novellas, Lore, etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

>[PC Troubleshooting]
http://pastebin.com/qEZD3VLJ

>[NieR:Automata Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia] - Untranslated, use Chrome
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>[/ndg/ Downloads Pastebin] - Ripped OST, Lewds, Steam Reskin
http://pastebin.com/YWG8irCu

>[NieR: Automata Mining and Moddin Steam Group]
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nierMnM

>[Nier Automata Lossless OST + Bonus HACKING TRACKS Disc]
https://mega.nz/#F!xpND2ZQI!SGnaDUc7MW5VDCJ4B9q4xA
https://mega.nz/#F!ppsjEICJ!SH2WwEAxnsQd99rZfN6u8Q
PASSWORD=hikaru

English track list
http://vgmdb.net/album/65091

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2Brap
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Big Sis A2 a cute
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Update up on PSN.
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>>173315685
BB artbook scans n some lore
>https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/168677-nier-automata/75191730
need the other pages
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Man, what level are they expecting you to beat this robo monk? I guess I was pretty underleveled for it, but at least it's over.
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>>173316156
I assume you mean on hard? He's pretty easy to beat using bare hands at less than lvl 35 on normal
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>>173316289
He's really easy to dodge, but you'd have to have the patience of a rock to sit down and beat him with bare fists for like 45 minutes at level <35.
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>>173316156
Second playthrough
Especially with 9S' hacking but that cheating so don't do it
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>>173316137
N2 should've wiped them all out.
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31 hours into original NieR... 30 hours to get ending A and 1 hour into B and I've almost completely lost interest. the worst part is probably the retreading, though there are other glaring ones too.

is there value in continuing playing at this point as opposed to watching a video? does it change up later on or is this it?

I have to wonder how much of N:A was Taro and how much was Platinum. certainly there's enough similarities to see how they're the same, but the feel is completely different.

some of it is definitely the tech/code quality ruining immersion. the music is constantly slowed in town and northern plains is so slowed down it's not just ugly noises.
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>>173316668
>but that cheating so don't do it
Hey you
You're not my mom
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>>173316895
>the music is constantly slowed in town and northern plains is so slowed down
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>>173316668
To be fair entire 9S is a fucking cheating.
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>>173317098
I played with a sword
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Automata but genders are reversed
Yorha are handsome guys and scanners are cute lolis
Would you play that?
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>>173316895
If Kaine's backstory didn't make you want to keep playing, then you might as well watch the rest on youtube.

The game pioneered a lot of ideas that were just kind of flopped out in N:A, and playing them in reverse order takes a lot of the punch out of Nier.
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>>173317279
>handsome man choking a cute loli
I can hear the SJWs' autistic screeching all the way from that alternate timeline.
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How dissapointing do you expect the announcement to be?
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>>173316156
I guess second playthrough probably, I managed to beat most of it around the 40-50 range but it took like an hour at his last form
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>>173317279
Fuck yeah
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>>173317279
So MGS but with more gameplay variety?
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You know guys... To fall for someone like 2B or something I should say. Is a wonderful feeling. I would never mind it if she drove her blade through my gut because dying by her hands is better than dying by someone else's or dying alone, the pain of being impaled by her blade is nothing compared to the pain of living without her.
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>>173317279
No.
Taro argued against that shit as well and rightly so. 2B could have had a chest as perfect as her ass if those fucks on the dev team and SE didn't fucking shoehorn in shit ideas like this.
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>>173317279
I want deviantart to leave.
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>>173317574
9S pls.
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>>173317450
I imagine the doors will just be hiding a giant thank you letter from Taro.
Which would actually be kinda nice
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Was there a reason the androids in that side quest defected?
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>>173320018
For much the same reason that the machines leave the network, I imagine.
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>Everyone seeming to be talking about this game like it's some excellent piece on existentialism and the meaning of free will.
>It's just a real good game that draws heavily on those themes and is masterful at presentation and subverting expectations.

I expected it to go a lot deeper since it dropped names like Jean-Paul and Nietzsche in the A route. Fug.
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>>173320018
They probably found out about what was really going on with YoRHa
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>>173320018
Whatever the reason was, it apparently wasn't good enough to make any attempt whatsoever to persuade 2b or 9s, clearly attacking is the better plan.

The game is great but holy shit some parts are badly written on purpose so a fight can happen. The a2 bit annoyed me too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9IB6zZ6SUM&t=06s

What did Taro mean by this?
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>>173320419
I came for androids and wrecking shit with occasional gutpunches and end up better than expected
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>>173317593
2B's ass a shit. She would have been miles better off with one moderate like her tits.
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>>173317574
9S stop. You already got your happy ending with her, go to your resistance room, fuck her all night and then sleep cuddling. Bye
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>>173320789
>>173320876
The jap fans are so much better than us it's kind of irritating.
>all the best pics and memes.
>stuff like this

Meanwhile we've got shitty fanfics.
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>>173320789
>>173320876
I need this with the dress intact.
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>>173320979
Don't be rood A2, 9S is still reeling from it all.
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2B9S
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>>173321891
Kill them all A2. Make Caim proud.
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>>173322089
>Making Caim proud
For what purpose
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I want to bully Devola and Popola about how they doomed humanity!
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>>173322198
For the glory of murder, of course.
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>>173322302
I will find and gut you, unknown resistance member.
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>>173322302
They did nothing wrong you inconsiderate prick.
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>>173322198
Murder.
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>>173322571
They tried their best.
Nobody can stand against a protective dad
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>>173322656
If i tape 2 protective dads back to back and head to toe did i make an infinite dynamo and gain 2+ waifu's?
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Would you take care of her, anon?
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>>173322881
Yes, but only if she promises to take better care of her hair after I'm inevitably gone.
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>>173322881
Yes and I would try to fix her skin.
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is 9S Caim? like is it his personality? Young Caim?
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>>173323265
They wouldn't have gestalt data on Caim tho, but this is Taro's game and anything is possible.
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>tfw 9S and 2B are almost immortal beings due to being androids
>can keep on living if they can keep servicing their parts
>tfw they can spend an eternity together with each other's love and care
>neither of them waning in their devotion and emotion for the other
>a pure love that lasts until the oblivion of the Earth
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Pls Anon post more A2 in berserker mode art.
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>>173323912
I love them so much. I feel bad for A2. Too bad pods weren't a thing during the Pearl Harbor mission, so she can have A4 back.
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>>173322639
That's forbidden love!
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>>173325391
Forbidden love is the best love when it comes to twin androids.
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So there's a lot of talk about a new patch for Automata that's fucking up a lot of things but most of the people who experience it seem to be people playing imported Japanese copies.
Anybody know if I'm safe if I'm on an american PS4 and a PSN downloaded copy of Automata?
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>>173322965
>cute game where you brush A2's hair and put it in different hairstyles like braids and buns
I need this
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>>173325670
What did it fuck up?
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>>173325670
>fucking up a lot of things
Like what? I had it downlaoded already
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>>173322881
I would WASH HER NOSE
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>>173325925
People are saying a bunch of text is garbled and broke, sprinting now gets stopped more often, and some camera bugs were introduced. This is Patch 1.06
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>>173326072
I got 1.04 today (EU)
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>>173324813
Now that I think about it, she'll probably end up with Anemone.
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>>173325776
I just want to buy her new clothes
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>>173326031
You monster. That dirt has knows more about her than you will ever do.
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>>173326303
Holy shit that's brutal
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>>173323456
>wouldn't have gestalt data on caim
We never did learn what happened to him. Perhaps he somehow calmed down when he found himself in a world where any shmuck with a gun could down him if he goes a murderin' and thus blended into the decaying society.
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>>173325391
Not when you get to be the meat in the twin sammich.
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>>173327168
There isn't a theory that Caim was the Legion's leader or some shit?
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>>173327279
Its bunk and bullshit fueled by an artist making a picture of Red Eyes with an outline resembling Caims.
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>>173327168
>caim losing to guns
I'll believe it when taro writes it.
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>>173327472
Well fucking angelus dropped to a single missile and he's a magically otherworldly being spawned by a cthulian god.
Caims just a really really strong dude with a sword and some magic. I can't imagine he's more bullet or explosion proof than angelus was.
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>>173327519
9S with a cello. qt.
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>>173327519
http://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201704070046/
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>>173327519
I'm going to end up wasting retarded amounts of money to this franchise and I'm going to love every moment of it.
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>>173326303
Fine with that.

There are too many A2 fags for their own good. Amnesia Type-E a best
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>>173327519
Can't wait for the cameos on all squix mobage
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>>173329229
It's already in Valkyrie Profile
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It's a damn shame that I'm interested in this game's story, but have absolutely no interest in the gameplay
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>>173330175
maybe you should fuck off then faggot
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What does the Patch 1.04 fix , bros ?
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>>173327168
didn't he get fried to death along with angelus after getting hit with missiles? both of them fell after that hit, and he looked pretty roasted.
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>>173330481
That he did.
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>>173327168
he's fucking dead
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>>173330175
That's unfortunate but you could always put it on easy with the auto chips exclusive to that. Game literally plays itself for you in that mode, doing attacks and shooting without you having to do much.
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adam and eve not adam and steve ok praise jesus
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>Final Song

this will take a while
and with "a while" i mean "a lot"
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could someone explain the purpose of the machine arc launched in ending D to me?
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>>173333672
"fuck this gay earth"
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>>173333672
N2 trying to find a new home for the machines across the galaxy.

Knowing it is a Yoko Taro story that means being stranded in space forever.
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>>173333672
"let's do what the human did"
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>>173333969
>>173333973
>>173333950

And was the network destroyed after this?

Any machines remaining on earth would be free and conscious wouldn't they?
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>>173333672
They're shooting everything about their conflict into space, hoping it'll land on another planet and basically start anew with all they've learnt.

I don't think there are any specific details about how that's going to work/pan out in the game, but essentially it's the next big iteration of the evolutionary "perpetual spiral of life and death" everyone is trapped in, just like YoRHa is mainly there to die and have its data be used to create even better androids, now the machine network is basically gathering up all it can for the next step in their evolution.

It's Nietzsche transhumanist Übermensch shit.
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it's a shame i cant cheese this fight with the pause button like i did in Drakengard 1
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>>173334253
No, we know the ones on Earth rebuild after a while, pic related.
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>>173330342
It says it fixes bugs, but I don't know which ones.
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>>173326072
I'm on PC, have gotten 0(?) patches since release, so it's safe for now
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>>173334253
the network itself probably collapsed after its manifestation/ego fucked off.

but it eventually gets rebuilt. who knows if it has another n2 like entity at its core or not.
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okay i got to all six of them singing
still, it's like 10 minutes per try if you fuck up near the end
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So I'm thinking about getting this game. Should I get it on pc or ps4? If pc where can I find a way to use my wireless ps4 controller?
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>>173334285

We have the Flower in Drakengard 3, we have the Pollen in Drakengard 1, we have the Stem from NieR: Automata.

And in Nier basically all the Bees die.
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>>173335554

Ps4. PC has serious performance issues
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thanks for the OST rips my dudz.
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>>173323912

>If all of their parts are changed, and if the memories are not uploaded, is 2B's hometown the same as the original?
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>>173335669
>PC has serious performance issues
does it? Ive never had any problems
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>>173336540

I'm just going by what people commonly report. I played it on PS4 myself
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>>173336540
There are definitely issues but your mileage may vary. Some ppl have none while my game crashed constantly while trying to get ending E
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Is Drakengard worth a replay lads?

I played it back in the PS2 era, and honestly all I recall is the endless thousands of enemies that I had to kill to do effectively anything. Does it stand up at all?
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have the performance issues on PC been patched or do i still need the mod
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>>173336762
PC didn't receive a single patch since release.
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Can you emulate drakenguard 3? I want to play it but I'm PC
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>>173336762
Just get the mod, it's ridiculously easy to install.

Also, remember to turn off AA as the regular post processing of the game does it already.
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Do I have to know anything about drakenguard/the first nier to get a lot out of this game?
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>>173337072
No. Not to follow the plot, at least. You'll lose out on some references and some archive files will be meaningless to you.
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>>173336971
i'm seeing threads about working PS3 emulators
so maybe
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>>173336971
not yet. the game crashes on loading. the devs are more interested in getting persona 5 running.
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Aw this is cute.
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I avoid spoilers and everything, but one thing really bugs me.

Am I blind and retarded or early in the game you can't reach those two points under factory? Whenever I look at the map and see those two dots it makes me buttmad because they look so obviously accessible. It feels like 90s bullshit coming back to modern games.
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>>173338161
Those bugged me too but not as much as

>You can't open this chest right now
>the one who CAN open them is right here standing next to you nope can't be opened.

Surely there is a better way to do that
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>>173338161
you'll get there later
now leave
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>>173338161
Play videogame and leave this place.
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>>173338161
You'll get to go there as part of the main story. It's very hard to lock yourself out of optional content in this game, so don't be afraid to progress if you find yourself not being able to reach something.

Now leave because spoilers.
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>>173315685
>500x228
Please tell me there's a larger version of this
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>>173338487
I have too much life to finish game in one sitting, sadly
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Hey guys, I've completed the game yesterday and I'm afraid I'm too stupid for it, because I don't get a lot of things. I found some info in the archives, but that didn't explain everything to me and the wikis are still full of holes. I'd be really grateful if you could answer to some my questions.

Who's behind Project YoRHa? Humans? Other androids? Who enabled the machines to hack to the Bunker's system? And at that time, who was talking to them (you know, that "we're your beloved machine liveforms" stuff), was it N2? Did YoRHa models exist only to gather data to make better ones in the future, there was no other point?
Does anybody from humans/androids side care about winning this war, actually?

What was 4S doing at the route C? Why he didn't go mad like the other models?

Are the black boxes to androids like machines' cores to their owners? The "boxes are made from cores" twist was telling us that androids actually think and feel in the same way that machines do? And why A2 and the other older models have fusion cores instead?

I've seen the Black Box artbook, and I don't get the "the redheads never came back" page. Who are they, actually?

During the final fight with Ro-Shi, it was saying the "become as gods" stuff. Can we speculate that it was he made of the parts, maybe cores, of the dead machines from the factory?

Oh, and the short parts about the story of the machines before every location. What was that? Is it explained anywhere? Are Infant Machine's Memories and the story about the machine dropped in the sea are about Grun?

I know that it may be kinda messy, but as I said before, I'd really appreciate if you could answer me to some of this questions.
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>>173338692
Doesn't need to be one sitting, just play the videogame and don't come here. Your experience will be better.
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Why the japanese singer starts crying at the end of Weight of the world? That was cute.
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>>173338802
Androids are behind yorha iirc. That's the reason for the black boxes being made from machine cores. "it would be inhumane" to use a proper android AI in something that exists only to be sacrificed.
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>>173338802
>Who's behind Project YoRHa? Humans? Other androids? Who enabled the machines to hack to the Bunker's system?
From a cursory perspective, the machines invented YoRHa to help them transcend and evolve. Who controls the machines?
>Does anybody from humans/androids side care about winning this war, actually?
Yes, the both do.
>What was 4S doing at the route C? Why he didn't go mad like the other models?
Who knows, it isn't explicitly stated, but there are a few other YoRHa units left behind too. I can postulate they were disconnected from the bunker or far enough away from the battlefield that they weren't affected.
>Are the black boxes to androids like machines' cores to their owners? The "boxes are made from cores" twist was telling us that androids actually think and feel in the same way that machines do? And why A2 and the other older models have fusion cores instead?
Think of the Black Box as a CPU. The soul and memories of the androids are data to passed around, but a machine wont work without a processor for the data.
>I've seen the Black Box artbook, and I don't get the "the redheads never came back" page. Who are they, actually?
Dunno, haven't seen it. Though Devolva and Popola are redheads.
>During the final fight with Ro-Shi, it was saying the "become as gods" stuff. Can we speculate that it was he made of the parts, maybe cores, of the dead machines from the factory?
The three floating cylinders you battled in takes machine corpses and refurbishes them into new machines. So it's possible some of them retain some memories.
>Oh, and the short parts about the story of the machines before every location. What was that? Is it explained anywhere? Are Infant Machine's Memories and the story about the machine dropped in the sea are about Grun?
This is exposition to give insight into where you were headed to give a better impact. These are definitely canon stories.

My take on things.
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>>173338802
>Who's behind Project YoRHa? Humans? Other androids?
Other Adroids.

Yorha androids are made out of machine crap so the androids wouldsnt feel bad about using them as crash test dummies.
Yorha real purpose is exactly that.
>Are the black boxes to androids like machines' cores to their owners?
Yes. It's like both their brain and their power source.
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>>173339330
>>173339740
Where're you getting that they're controlled by other Androids from? The Ark tower, controlled by the machines, clearly states that Androids were created as a test for the machines. And that YoRHa was created for this purpose. It doesn't mention other androids, only YoRHa.

Unless I missed something blatantly obvious, which I do sometimes.

<s>apologies if sounded aggressive, im more confused</s>
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>>173340062
when was spoilers changed? O.o
I haven't been here since 2013.
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>>173340062
>clearly states that Androids were created as a test for the machines
Nowhere in game does it state this.
Please re-read whatever archive or dialogue you inferred this from.
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>>173338802
>Who's behind Project YoRHa
Androids. They started the project to build morale, by perpetuating that whole 'humans are alive and on the moon' thing.


>Who enabled the machines to hack to the Bunker's system?
N2, the red girl.

>Did YoRHa models exist only to gather data to make better ones in the future, there was no other point?
Yes.

>Does anybody from humans/androids side care about winning this war, actually?
Yes? I have to assume Commander legitimately wanted to retake the world and end the conflict.

>What was 4S doing at the route C? Why he didn't go mad like the other models?
S models likely contained a certain degree of intuitiveness to disconnect from the network when bad shit is going down.

>Are the black boxes to androids like machines' cores to their owners?
Yes. Android black boxes are made out of machine cores. Basically it's an existential version of the "We're not so different, you and I" trope.
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>>173340197
>O.o
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>>173339654
yorha was made by androids who realized that if the war ends the androids will literally idle to their deaths

because yorha was made to prolong indefinitively the battle, they were built to lose, so periodically they are destroyed to give way to the new yorha machines alongside their own destruction planned when they discover too much/act too much like a machine.

the machines are likely the only ones that have not experienced completely the androids idleness issue as pascal shows that they do can live without a direction. as far as it goes if the machines idles they just continue to live while androids literally stand still and rust away

yorha androids are made from machine cores. quite a few of them are more "peculiar" that the usual, already disregarding the "excellent" care they get from their superior/fellow androids
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>>173340062
>Where're you getting that they're controlled by other Androids from? The Ark tower, controlled by the machines, clearly states that Androids were created as a test for the machines. And that YoRHa was created for this purpose. It doesn't mention other androids, only YoRHa.

Soulbox report says you particularly that Yorha use black boxes made outta machine cores because using real androids like that would be INHUMANE.

It's not something that N2 would ever consider.

Shit is pretty complex, the network cooperates with androids in a way. The network's purpose is the last order they got from aliums - to fight androids BUT if they finish them off they lose they purpose so they will never ever actually finish their job.

Androids actually want to get rid of the network so they are making Yorha to collect data and improve androidkind, but in the same way that benefits the network by providing the evolutionary pressure.
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>>173340062
I think what you are thinking of is the fact that the machines have kept around androids, locked in eternal conflict, in spite of being able to completely overrun them. Because in order to fulfill their bottom line (defeat the enemy) they have to actively have an enemy to defeat. Otherwise they would lose purpose. This is probably why they killed their alien creators.
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>tfw stacking hacker chip sets
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>>173339654
>I can postulate they were disconnected from the bunker or far enough away from the battlefield that they weren't affected.
4S probably survived by not synching his data to bunker like 9S did. The other two survived because they were too high on Jackass's e-drug so the logic virus was pretty much harmless.
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>>173340393
the bunker has a periodic backdoor that opens every time the yorha project is completed and the new batch of yorha is ready to go

its safe to say most yorha droids wanted to win the war, as well as all androids. the real issue lies on the fact that androids can idle to death if they dont have a goal

>>173340659
it wasnt the machines that kept the androids around, it was the androids who literally won the war and decided to postpone its victory forever as a means to prevent them from dying of idleness.

this becomes really confusing because at some point the yorha backdoor is toroughtly fucked by the machines as they take on the leftover of the yorha forces, that have no defenses against the red virus created by the machines/N2
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>>173340437
>>173340226
How does the Tower get its info on the origin of YoRHa, and, how does it get a backdoor into the Bunker? The only way it could have is if the machines were part of the creation of YoRHa specifically.

>>173340576
>>173340659
Are you two suggesting that N2 is Android in origin? And not some weird machine program?

None of this makes sense from the perspective of Androids. Why would they build a Tower to destroy the remnants of human data on the moon and help the robots win? If the androids sole purpose is to protect that data then it doesn't fit logically. Unless there is a machine/android alliance in place.

This is all really interesting. I just want to understand this game.
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Thank God 9S is so ridiculously overpowered, otherwise playing as him would have been such a chore.
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>>173341097
N2 is not okay on its head. it decided to shoot the humans to space apparently on a whim, just like how it decided to kill itself when fighting A2 on a whim.

the machines at some point had how to abuse YoRHa wich had that backdoor open once the cycle was done.

androids DONT know of any of this. if they did they would know all hoomies are dead and would literally idle to death. a android with no goal literally does nothing until it rusts. jackass is angry because it not only discovers this, it also discovers that androids had how to put a actual end to the war but dont because the high command is incapable of solving this issue.
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>>173341097
why would the machines consider it inhumane to use standard android ai for disposable sacrifices, and instead use the "subhuman" machine cores?
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>>173341097
No.
It got its info on YoRHa because it managed to hack into the moon server.
The backdoor was preplanned to open by high command androids for the machine network to abuse. I imagine the machine network is constantly probing the network defense of YoRHa and then suddenly an opening is created and the took advantage of it.
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>>173341097
>Are you two suggesting that N2 is Android in origin? And not some weird machine program?
N2 is made by aliens, then it killed the aliens. It's still programmed to fight Androids but it is never going to finish them off entirely because that would deny it a reason to exist.

It collaborates with androids in a fucked up way for it's own evolution.
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>>173341384
Popola and Devola put the human data on the Moon
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>>173341540
N2 is literally me
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>>173341457
>and instead use the "subhuman" machine cores?
Literally because of that? They don't consider machine lifeforms to be people.
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>>173341132
I love White!
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Gib DLC
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>want to preorder soundtrack
>shipping is 40 eurobucks with no other options
nope
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>>173341457
racism obviously
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>>173341646
A middle-aged man pretending to be a loli?
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>>173341847
Fucked up in the head
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>>173341457
but that's what i mean, read more closely what i wrote.

why would machine lifeforms consider their own cores to be a perfect substitute for disposable pawns, while using their enemy's code to be inhumane?

it makes no sense.
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>>173342170
yorha was build by androids to be discartable and prolong the war

yorha only has machine parts. they are not machine made.

at some point N2 is really betraying something but until the tower shows up, this is what it is.
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What if humanity was inside of them all along?
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>>173342416
It's actually possible
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>>173342416
its a pretty safe bet this is true. machine cores are likely the closest thing to humans there is in automata.
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>>173342170
Isn't that note made only available to Commander White? It would make sense that the machines (N2) behind Project Yorha would word it that way if the letter is addressed to White specifically

Meanwhile, SS classification documents (which specifically prohibit being shared with anyone, especially the commander) detail everything about a backdoor and the true intention of Yorha
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I have 97% quest completion but only 50% novels, what sidequest have I missed somewhere? And is it hidden? Routes A/B have me missing 2 quests but whenever I load in the only red dots anywhere on the map are wise machines
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>>173342762
Hack the wise machines as 9S you silly billy
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>>173342762
go to resistance camp as A2, talk to Anemone then use the terminal
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I thought that that the cycle of YorHa was mostly about evolving androids into having more human emotions so that they can eventually replace humanity
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>>173342821
I've done it, all 3, watched 'em an hero. It didn't give me any novel section and didn't count as completing a quest.
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So why did the YoRHas have to die after all? Because other androids gathered enough data and decide to clean up the useless ones? That's cruel.

Also why did A2 and the other androids leave YoRHa?
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All right so I decided to buy the game on the pc since steam is ps4 controller adaptable. Anything I should know? Or should I get it for ps4.
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>>173342762
and the side quest you most likely miss is Emil's second fight
fight him for the first time, upgrade all weapons, then talk to him and a new quest begins
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>>173342860
I assume that's for the novels, not the quest thing?

Because what I'm missing are 2 "shared" quests that in chapter select appear to be from anywhere in ther second half or so of route A/B, but I can't find what the hell it could possibly be
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>>173342917
Read the stage play summary
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>>173342917
>So why did the YoRHas have to die after all?

The real reason is to make the player feel sad. The details are incidental. It's not shakespeare
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>>173342917
yes.

A2 was part of a discartable team, literally her team was sent to die. since shes very butthurt about her lover, A4 not being respawned along herself, she decided to be a rogue and just do what she was made to do, kill machines until she cant anymore.
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>>173342975
Not him, but anyone know a good way to upgrade all weapons without much pain? Or should I just make a list of all the materials I need and then go hunting?
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>>173343194
try buying what you can buy, though getting emil to spawn with the best inventory material-wise is a fucking pain in the ass
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>>173342917
They're glorified crash test dummies. Their purpose literally was to die. A2 was meant to die on her first mission. YoRHa was meant to die to keep the lie that humanity was still alive on the moon a secret after they outlived their purpose.
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>>173342975
nope, i've already done that
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>>173343458
reconaissance squad?
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>>173343194
as long as you're in route C, 99% of all upgrade mats you'll need to upgrade all weapons can be bought from emil on his resistance camp route or from the merchant in the amusemet park
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>>173343268
Yeah figured, I should have been smarter and started the list sooner though, I probably wasted a lot of cash on stuff I didn't really need
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>>173343563
Even pod stuff? I hope I don't need to fully upgrade them for that
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I made a thing
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>>173343573
money is not an issue, just go fishing in the flooded city
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>>173343837
He made a thing!
Cute thing
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>>173339247
She did?
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>>173343837
that's a cute thing
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>>173343497
finished it

>>173342860
i've talked to anemone as A2 and I can't use any of the terminals. do i have to be in a specific chapter of route c?
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>>173343837
Cute! CUTE!
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>>173343986
try doing it after Pascal bit
as for side quests just do this
http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Side+Quests
compare the list with what you did, find the ones you didn't do and call it a day
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>>173343837
>pod's benis gun
we are going to hell for this
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>>173343986
>>173343497
>>173343458
>>173342975
>>173342762
Figured out the quests i missed! It was repairing engels. Thanks anyway bros

still not sure why I can't use the terminals in route C as A2 though. talked to anemone a few times but she didn't say anything particularly relevant
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>>173344408
That Engels side quest eluded me too for some time
Fucking comunist
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>>173343105
I will, thanks.

Longpost-with-lots-of-questions fag here, thank you all very much for the discussion. I think I understand better what happend in the game. It's fun to read what do you think about this topics.
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>>173344408
It's when you go for the Fuel Filter after Hegel, you talk to Anemone after saving Pascal and I think then you can use the terminals
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>>173342416
>black boxes are made of machine cores
>the black boxes look like gesalts/shades
>the ayylmaos made machines out of gestalt left overs when they fought their 2nd round against emil
>the logic virus is the red eye disease and is able to take over machines/androids because their cores are still human souls
>instead of forming a pact the black boxes create an explosion (because they are both human souls instead of human + magical being)

How far away from the truth am I?
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>>173315685
Why did you tell me to play Route C after B and not Persona 5 /ndg/ ? Every fucking thing is falling apart now. I didn't sign on for those feels. My operators...

I picked A2 when I got asked. Is there a difference if I pick 9S at the start?
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>>173345686
googletranslate and taro on twitter
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>>173345771
No difference, you'll have to play both routes anyways
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>>173345771
No, there isn't
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>>173345686
Need more insight
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>>173345686
last part is pretty wrong but everything is correct
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>>173345919
>>173345959
Great, thank you.
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>>173345771
you need that pain and tears
they are important plot devices
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Looks like people are starting to get upset that us writefags keep plugging our work.

Other people keep saying that it's good though, so this is for them:

http://archiveofourown.org/works/10490349/chapters/23333226

Oh yeah, RIP A2 lol
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>>173346427
It's just one fag that keeps shitting on fanfiction.
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>>173346427
>>173346583
Now there are two, get the fuck out with this shit and be obnoxious attentionwhore elsewhere
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>>173346427
WAT THE HELL
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>>173347418
?
>>173347294
There he is!

Have you actually read it anon? or do you dislike the idea of fanfiction to the point you won't even read it?
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>>173347687
>Have you actually read it anon
>reading fanfic
>ever
Write something that actually gets published and we can talk, attentionwhore
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>>173346427
Aw group hug.
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>>173347687
>reading fanfic
no thanks
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>>173348119
>>173348219
Then why complain about what people like?

>Cluttering up MY thread

It's on topic and people enjoy it, if you dislike it ignore it.
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>>173348337
How about I draw some YoRHas in paint and start posting this shit here asking for appraisal, huh?
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why is it that my AMD Radeon (TM) R9 380 Series doesn't even meet the minimum requirements to play this game on pc?
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>>173348337
Someone has to make sure shitty thread trends don't manifest in the general.
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>>173348337
Just ignore him, he'll give up
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Drew thing again.
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>>173348503
Go for it.

Content is content, you might even get better over time.
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>>173346427
>>173346583
>>173347687
>>173348337
>>173348729
Samefagging this much
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>>173349007
Sorry to break your heart
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>>173349007
No.
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>>173349007
I'm three of those but I figured it was apparent I was the same person
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>>173348790
this is terrible

its obvious 9s would be gifted this by his operator
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>>173348790
Cute. Draw more for us. 9S is ready for sex.
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>>173348790
winners don't use drugs
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>>173317018
I mean literally slowed down. seems to be due to particle effects or something, music is fine when I'm in a menu or any other location but music and fps shows in those areas, and down to like 10fps in a big fight. I thought it was my outdated computer, but then remembered I was playing a PS3.

>>173317328
yeah Taro's writing isn't very strong against spoilers. I'm trying to keep things in perspective; imagining it's still 2010 and I haven't played N:A .

I suppose I'll see what happens for a few more hours. Phoenix spear is op as fuck, so fights are basically run around and wait for all the interesting stuff to be said and then gimp them.
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>>173349262
>>173349409
But 9s actually gifted E-drug after B-ending. I just have extended that scene.
>>173349382
Sure.
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>>173349461
Yeah the PS3 version seems to have an issue where playing it for an extended period of time results in audio stutter and shit
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>>173348790
Nice work man, draw more 9s
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>>173343194
>>173343704
don't have to upgrade pods at all.
when you reload from chapter select you have to talk to emil at the desert entrance. after that, reloading the area should change his route.
Stop him at the Rebel Camp for High grade mats, Stop him near the factory for mid grade mats. nearly everything else, you get from the amusement park vendor. Robot parts are sold by Pascal after wiping his memory
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>>173349475
draw A2 being tendered by the animal caretaker while visibly upset shes getting cleaned
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>>173349223
What happens if you turn the valves?
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What machine would you guys want to be?
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>>173350086
Tears
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>>173350250
The party tank.
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>>173350047
That feel when you can think only about lewd meaning of "getting cleaned"
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>>173350250
the reclusive machine
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>>173348790
It was such a nice gesture how he snuck in a little something extra into his care package knowing what an emotionally taxing day it had been for 2B. You couldn't ask for a more perfect partner to have as your support unit than 9S.
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>>173350086
It would be extremely painful...
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>>173348790
Very cute. Saved.
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>>173350516
He is so nice. I can see how painful if was for 2b.
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How the fuck does saving even work?
Sometimes it autosaves when i die soemtimes it doesn't.

Just lost >hours progress to some bullshit 1 hit kill boss fight.

Uninstalled.
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>>173351052
How about reading the fucking tutorial dialogue?
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>>173351052
It tells you at the start that it doesn't autosave. When you die your level is reverted to the level you were at the last time, then you have to recover the body.
Play the game on Normal first if you are having this much difficulty
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>>173351187
>>173351221
I'm already on C/D. It didn't even leave a body when I died, still had all my chips.
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Do you have some nice arts about 2B buying t-shirts with 9S? Or going shopping in general, just like they promised.
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>>173351396
You don't have a body to retrieve because the bunker is gone, anon. If you die, you fucking die.
Use a little common sense.
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>>173351396
On C/D it tells you that on death you have to load a save. There is no autosave, you have to save at access points which are indicated on the map.
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>>173351396
Have you tried paying attention to the game you're playing and what has been stated? Basically what this guy said>>173351454
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>>173351396
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>173351418
I've found a thing on pixiv
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>>173351396
Yeah, well how about READING THE FUCKING TUTORIAL DIALOGUE? The one from TUTORIAL NPC? With big ass exclamation mark above her head?
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>>173351716
That's a cute thing!
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So I used the automatic installer for the FAR and my performance increased a bit but I can't seem to be able to use any keybinds while in the game. Anyone know why?
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There was a grammar mistake.
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>>173350516
I want my own 9S ;_;
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>>173351418
https://twitter.com/9S2B_60min

You might want to monitor either this account or the #9S2B版深夜の60分一本勝負 hashtag. Tomorrow's drawing challenge will revolve around the theme of a t-shirt date, I'm pretty stoked for the pile of good art that should result from this.
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i maxed all weapons as A2 and have the Emil Head how do i trigger his second fight?
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>>173355896
Do you not see the quest marker in the shopping mall?
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>>173355896
Go to the Shopping Mall
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>>173355896
upgrade it as well if you haven't
then he will spawn at the mall
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>>173356138
>>173356140
>>173356169
there's no marker

i defeated his first form as 9S does that mean i have to fight him again as 9S?
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>>173356336
Try talking to him in the desert and then fast travelling
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>>173350250
The NEET one, minus getting burned inside
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Can i play this with a friend?

If yes, how is questing, you can share quests like in WOW or is it basically single player like ESO?
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>>173350250
N2. i get to transcend existence. why settle for anything less?
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>>173357801
You cant
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>>173357801
Nier and Automata are single player only
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>>173357861
>>173357868
shit.
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>>173357938
You can still multiplayer it as a drinking game where you take a shot every time something sad or unnerving happens and take a hit of meth every time the concept of existentialism is touched upon.
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There goes my 100% save, hope it helps one of u bois someday

Goodu rucku
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What would you do to a human A2?
She still think she's an android, but is starting to feel and think like a human
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>>173358505
Or you can pretend to be 2B while playing and your friend can roleplay as 9S. After finishing side quest and coming to resistance camp you should take a rest in the room. After that in real life your friend 9S can insert his petite dick into your 2B's strong ass.
And during casual banter in the game between 9S and 2B you can also casually suck his dick in real life.
I think it can greatly improve your immersion as well as help to better understand characters, their relationships and motives.
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>>173358887
Cuddle
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>>173358887
Ask where the bathroom is.
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>>173315685
So in Route C if I pick constantly A2 will I be locked out of 9S story or will I reach a point in the A2 story where the game will force me to switch to 9S and play his part of Route C?
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>>173358887
Talk about mythology!
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>>173359378
you'll be switching between the two
at first you'll have a little freedom who to pick first, then you'll be forced to play as specific character
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>>173358964
That's lewd, anon.
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>>173359378
There's two 9S and two A2 mini stories. You can pick them in any order. If you complete two 2A stories first you will be forced into remaining two 9S stories later.

Also
>picking A2 over 9S
You're faggot
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>>173358887
Show her my favorite anime.
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>>173358887
I can't post it, this is a blue board
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>>173358887
I observe her, wondering if she can control her bladder and bowels
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>THIS PAIN...YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT!

plz delet these feels
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>>173358964
Anon, thats lewd
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>>173359771
You mean you want to put her in a bathtub and give her a nice scrub? Followed by patdowns with warm towels and give her a bowl of ice cream while you dry her hair? And then fuck the living shit out of her on your bed until her pussy remembers the shape of your dick?
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>>173358887
I'd marry her
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>>173359915
9S has a big shotacock.
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>>173360038
My thoughts exactly
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>>173358887
Bullshit about fish and give her a ton of shit for being so emotional. After romancing her with my superior hog racing skills I would then run off with Simone
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>>173360434
>hog racing skills
>Simone

you spelled Kaine wrong.
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>>173359560
>>173359749
Thank you very much. I picked A2 because I was curious about her really. Seems like next one will be 9S, thank you anons.

This whole Route C is making me depressed though. Those Anemone logs, those operator waifus, Pascal... I hope it get's better (as in a happy end somehow)
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>>173361442
Hahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHA
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okay i beat Emil
should i autistically get all cheevos or just get Ending E? i kinda want to keep a save for the upcoming DLC
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>>173361442
it doesn't
unless you count E
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>>173361545
The plat is really easy but you'll want to make a new file anyway since I'm sure the DLC will be made completely trivial at level 99.
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>>173361545
you can postpone E but that way you only increae your chances to be spoiled
I really wish that DLC will be accessible straight from main menu, and it will tell a story not related to main one
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>>173361683
You used the bunny exploit didn't you you faggot.
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Argh need more enemy data
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>>173361917
It's not even an exploit. The whole point of the bunny is to give you a high level enemy to fight and gain experience late game.
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>>173361917
not him but I did
when I was level 83 and not to get levels per se, but to get another powerup part L because I couldn't get to emils house after second fight
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>THE Dragoon Lance's story

TRUE LOVE NEVER DIES
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>>173362121
It was a exploit because the exp gain has been nerfed.
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>>173362460
I'm pretty sure I farmed the bunny after it patched and he still gave me 20k exp on every kill. I think the patch was just to make sure you don't fuck over the balance of the whole game early on.
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>>173362405
Level 4 one is absolutely adorable.
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Ah yes very good

Now to watch the story on YouTube
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>>173358887
sniff every inch of her
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>>173363239
>watching the story on youtube
Hm I don't get it
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>>173363372
He doesn't like fun
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>>173363656
>implying Automata is actually fun
It's not, especially on PC
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>>173363992
To be honest despite what many would tell you, a lot of games aren't better on PC.
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>>173363992
Why
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>>173364206
He is probably one of those retards who buys console ports without having a controller.
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>>173364297
Ah makes sense
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>finish 9S ending
>choose to stay
>ask the pods to recover data
>bullet hell game is fucked, but I'm feeling pumped
>die once
>DO YOU WANT TO GIVE UP NOW?
>Fuck no!
>Die again
>SURRENDER HERE?
>Like hell!
>die again
>and again
>and again
>GIVE UP?
>GIVE UP?
>change view and see words of encouragement
>start tearing up
>No way!
>accept help
>ending theme chorus swelling
>suddenly bullet hell master
>suddenly got my whole squad wit me
>suddenly carrying the weight of the whole world
>reach end
>mfw I delete all of my save data without a second thought
We need to help each other more, don't we?
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>>173364723
Yes
My faith in humanity is slowly coming back
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>>173364723
That feel when credits is the best part of game.
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>>173364723
I cried so hard when the choir came together with help
such a genious design
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>>173365530
That toobie looks lewd.
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Question: Buy the game now, shrug some responsibilities this weekend (just stuff that I can do next weekend instead) and play it all weekend, OR, clear up my todo list, and play it all next weekend (long weekend, can start Thursday night) with a clear head?
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>>173366564
No no no. She is just excited.
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>>173366780
Firstly Anon, it's a sin to shirk your responsibilities so don't do that! Secondly I think it's best to go in with a clear head so you don't miss any details, while replaying is a prominent and necessary feature of the game you might not want to go back more than necessary because you missed a part of the story while you were tired.
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>>173365646
>tfw it only does this after you've beaten a few endings to hear the ending song in different languages
This ugly world isn't good enough for Yoko Taro.

Guys, maybe...maybe we need to try harder. If Taro-san believes in us, maybe there's something here worth saving.
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>>173366820
"excited"
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>>173366780
It's a heady game with a lot of concepts that deserve your time and reflection. You should arrange your schedule so that you can play in 3-4 hour chunks and take time off between endings.
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I blame Yonah for the endings
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>>173368979
Aliens I mean
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>>173368979
Wouldn't she have been dead by the time the aliens show up?
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Anyone know what this patch for PS4 it just downloaded is about?
Maybe some prep for the DLC?
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>>173370967
If there's a DLC I hope it has some pure water in it
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>>173371725
>Meteorites are more accessible in Nier world than pure water.
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>>173371725
its okay anon, not many people know about the great salt genocide in 11929
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>weapons stories
What's wrong with Taro's mind?
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>>173372961
Which one was your favorite anon?
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>>173372961
i doubt they are written by taro

eishima jun wrote the ones for the first nier so my guess would be him for the second nier

people dont seem to understand thats its not all taro and he got a couple writers behind him that have been there since drakengard 1
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Is it theoretically possible to beat credits without help, or is there a hard block somewhere along the line?
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>>173374145
they are literally all based on their previous games

theres nothing much to it. take in mind that N:A was the happiest game he ever made.
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So which one did you guys like more ending C or D?
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>>173374431
D.
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>>173374521
Silly android, androids don't have souls, she isn't in heaven
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>>173374431
C because A2 actually accomplishes something while 9S still dies but off screen
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>>173374640
He was seeing her memories from her sword, anon.
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>>173373134
Fate
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I wish I could replay sidequests.
I want to see how easy speed star is with the rocket program.
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>>173375028
Just get the ending E again. You should know what to do next.
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Why does Cruel sword descriptions describe them as black? The blades are clearly orange.

Where's the spear?
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>>173375095
I've already sacrificed myself.
I think I've earned the right to keep this save.
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Its me or 9S english voice is sexy as fuck?
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>>173375351
you haven't made any sacrifice until you have deleted your save
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>you prayed for 2B
;_;
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>>173375528
I recognise that guy as well
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>>173375518
I deleted my last save.
My name is on the assist server. I don't need to do it again.
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>>173375608
It was the first guy I ever found.
Nobody has found my corpse yet.
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>>173375779
maybe someone finds me under the pile of corpses at emils place
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>Equip the iron pipe
>Get crit, weapon up, and taunt chips
>Taunt every enemy
>Eat attack enhancement
>Now have a random chance to drop a nuclear bomb with each hit
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Finished Automata, I have a void in my soul now.

Is it worth tracking down a copy of Nier, or should I just watch a playthrough of it and skip over the grinding? Keep in mind I've already had the major plot points spoiled now and it's too late to wipe my memory, it sounds cool though
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>>173376247
I got to ending A without having to grind, I did sidequests of course for fun but that was it. It's definitely a fun ride
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>>173374807
isn't la petite mort a euphemism for orgasm?
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>>173378830
Killing = love(pleasure) or something according to Jackass.
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>>173378830
Considering I didn't orgasm when I tried to kill myself, nope
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>>173378830
Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_petite_mort
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Should I buy P5 or Nier Automata? I'll be buying the PS3 P5 or the PC Nier BTW
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>>173380731
Why not both?
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>>173380981
Cause i'm a broke ass college student?
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So people are saying there was a mild XP nerf to keep players from getting overlevelled early, which patch was this introduced in?
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>>173381158
Pick which one interests you more.
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>>173381451
I have played P4 and P3 and I liked them, but I also would like to try something new
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I wish did game had an unlockable co-op mode
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>>173376510
if you didnt do B there was no point in playing nier
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>>173382805
Oh I'm going through B now. I was just saying as an example
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>>173380731
I don't have any firsthand experience with it, but I have heard N:A PC is not the best port in existence. Could make sense to go play P5, and pick up the patches, be they official or unoffical, for N:A after they've had some time to mature.
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>>173380731
P5 is a lot longer than Automata so if you are tight on money you'd get way more time out of that.
I'm maybe 40 hours in but I've been enjoying it so far, hard to compare those two games to each other though, they are fundamentally just nothing alike.
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>>173376247
>>173376510
If OG Nier is anything like Automata, doing just A would be a total waste though. If I get it I obviously would be doing all the endings.

Just not sure if the experience of playing over watching is worth finding a disc, dusting off the PS3 and getting used to terrible load times again. Although I fully expect the story and music to be top tier I've heard the gameplay is p. janky
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>>173383985
I actually haven't had any issues with load times. The gameplay isn't bad but as long as you stick to good spears/small swords and stay away from large swords it's halfway decent.
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I got infected with the logic virus and fell into the deepest part of the city ruins.

Like all the way down.

Down the Snake Eater ladder down.

Anyone else have any decent stories about their infection?
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>>173384434
A moose stepped in front of the bridge to the mall and didn't move out of the way in time.
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>>173384434
I self-destructed thinking that would be a way to get rid of it for some reason. Cost me a good amount of time and I barely made it
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For some reason Sound of the End and Copied City are the songs on the OST that get me the most emotional. I feel like it's because the songs themselves have this frantic emotional tone to them that really feels like your mind is racing, and a lot of the time they play during fights and scenes that accentuate the story element of your character being utterly powerless in a world where they are created to serve a purpose they don't fully understand. Anyone else like this?
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>>173384434
Managed to fall down into the deepest part of the crater both times I did that section which was particularly infuriating.

I really wish that little fucking gap on the path in between the resistance camp and the bridge to the mall wasn't there. At this point I sacrificed more mooses crossing it than I did yoshis in super mario world.
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>>173384434
I fell into a little dip in the ground at the edge of the crater and got cornered and gangbanged by stubs.
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>>173385046
I did that too but I somehow managed to climb out of it, don't know how.
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>>173381158
Is that a question or a statement?
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>>173384434
>snake eater ladder
I would call the elevator shaft ladder the snake eater ladder. It's much taller.

Imagine if an acapella version of weight of the world played when you climb it during route C.

You know what, someone has to make a mod for that. Now that I thought about it, I won't be happy until it exists.
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>>173386414
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question
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>>173385136
Same. Walked in circles around the ladder to trigger her to flinch, then just barely made it to the top before she flinched again.
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>>173386842
That would make sense if it was written as am I in stead of I am.
I swear, misuse of question marks must be a new meme.
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>>173385038
>he songs on the OST that get me the most emotional. I feel like it's because the songs themselves have this frantic emotional tone to them that really feels like your mind is racing, and a lot of the time they play during fights and scenes that accentuate the story element of your character being utterly powerless in a world where they are created to serve a purpose they don't fully understand. Anyone else like this?

the quiet part of sound of the end is downright sexual, i could listen to it on repeat (and have but it doesnt have vocals :( )
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>>173364723
Am I a cunt for refusing to give up my save? I feel like a cunt
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>Adam says that there's a vile hatred deep inside 9S' heart
>the next text is talking about how 9S wants to hate everything, loved by all, and has no trust
>then you're thinking about how much you want to **** 2B?
in this context hate/kill makes more sense to me than love/fuck
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>>173387695
>Am I a cunt for refusing to give up my save?
Yes.

Everyone came together to help you. You should understand how easy it is to get overwhelmed sometimes.
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>>173384434
>get infected in hard mode
>die
>switch to normal
>fail the city ruins jump to go to the other side
>have to climb all the way with goliaths up my ass
I hated it
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The robutts are slowly learning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpw_FB2QrjQ

Android waifus when?!
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>>173388221
It's a lot more complex than that. It's a conglomerate of different emotions/actions, there isn't any distinct verb that fits there.
The machine network obviously knows of the 2E&9S arrangement and Adam being all about trying to mimic human emotions draws his own conclusions as to what kind of suppressed complex feelings 9S must harbor about 2B deep in his soul and to verify his expectations throws 9S into a state of high emotional stress where he has to come to face with his inner confusion
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>>173322639
>thumbnail looks like a dead soldier who's head is mush
wew
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>>173388221
It probably means both, remember in Jackass' quest when she concludes that "hate" and "passion" mixes together then androids fight? It's the same line of though, 9S loves and wants to bang 2B, but he's unconsciously aware of her true nature and resents it.

Pottery and shit.
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>>173327519
yeah but where/when tho
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Only the players can see N2 before the tower because only the players know who Nier was
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>>173390435
Stop being retarded and making shit up.
Both 9S and A2 (in the play) are aware of N2's twin form.
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>>173390435
I guess I don't understand as much about what's going on as I thought I did...
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>>173390651
You're telling me 9S saw N2 in the alien ship, when he got in the flight unit before fighting Eve, and when he was being choked but made no comment on them? Lmfao my man.
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>>173391603
9S would have also had to have seen N2 on the YoRHa flight deck, but he didn't act like he noticed her at all.

Are there any other places she appears?
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I knew buying Nier was a mistake
The constant fap breaks I have to take are starting to wear me down
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>>173391880
Get an onahole or something like that. It feels better and tends to have less chafing, what with the lube and all.
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>>173391603
We know he did because the player did. Everything you experience is part of 9S's cognition.
If he wasn't aware of them we wouldn't have seen them, just like in 2B's PoV.

9S sees and notices lots of shit and never comments on it, that's kind of a huge part of his character. Him noticing them makes a hell of a lot more sense than the opposite, both because he's one of N2's experiments and N2 revealing itself to him would further its cause, and simply because he is the highest spec scouting unit among the androids, there isn't really much of anything that gets past him.
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>>173392017
Not the guy you're talking to but how is he one of their experiments? I thought they were more or less just watching the YoRHa peeps because they were peculiar to them or something.
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>>173392158
He isn't but this is what happens when you entertain fan fiction circlejerkers in your general.
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>>173392010
I might do that
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>>173392158
YoRHA is the experiment 9S is a part of. The machines are using YoRHA to prolong the war indefinitely and force their own evolution in N2's case. They backdoored the bunker and only a select few are aware of what's happening each cycle. As the androids continued to evolve we eventually see 9S, the latest scanner YoRHA unit uncover everything he was never meant to know.
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>>173392158
They've been feeding him information since the very start, those little stories on bosses you get? All their doing.
It's not exactly good writing but 99% of the shit happening in Automata is N2 going through test runs and doing experiments..

>>173392214
Okay then.
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>>173392430
Isn't it explicitly said the backdoor was created by androids, not the machines?
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I want to fuck 2B if you know what I mean
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>>173392519
Yep. Welcome to fanfiction autism. You're stuck with them now.
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>>173392017
What? He comments on literally everything in the game.
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>>173392430
That's actually incorrect. YoRHa is one of the very few things N2 isn't actively fucking with and monitoring. It needs them to think for themselves to have an actual opponent that can trigger its evolution.
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>Releasing DLC to a game that asks you delete your save data upon completion

FUCKING MADMAN
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>>173392572
What did he mean by this?
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>>173392610
We've been playing very, very, different games then. He only comments on an exceedingly small fraction of the things he discovers.
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>>173392430
But YoRHa was created by androids. The machines only concluded that they shouldn't wipe out their enemy entirely, not create a super army for them. The quirk in the Machine Research Report about them not wanting to fully annihilate androids is there to explain some of the faulty steps in their evolution like Pascal, not imply they are secretly constructing a moon base with space stations to strengthen androids who want to kill them.
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>>173392610
pls, he figures out 2b has been killing him over and over near the end of route a/b and doesent say anything about it ever
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>>173392519
They couldn't have as the YoRHa disposal report states that not even the commander of the bunker is aware of the backdoor. My understanding was the machines engineered the whole thing in order to keep the war going. After they wiped out the aliens and received their final order to "eliminate the enemy" they likely evolved to a point where they decided that would leave them with no purpose which would explain the existential crisis for some of them.

also

Jackass DLC when? She very clearly stated she wanted to go after the people responsible for all this in one of the files.
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>tfw born too early to have a real qt android wife
>tfw can't cryosleep to skip time cause that doesn't exist either

Truly a shitty time to be alive
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>>173392967
When does he figure it out?

>>173393037
The Commander doesn't know, it's Level-SS confidential. She only has Level-S clearance. But that doesn't mean the machines are behind it all, it means the androids who set up YoRHa are behind YoRHa.

The game specifically states that androids tried to revive humanity, couldn't figure out how, and thus set up YoRHa along with the fake moon story to boost android morale and research better androids.
>>173392883

The leap from "the Commander doesn't know" to "it's all a ruse by the machines" when the game says the androids set it up does not make any sense.
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>>173392883
> not imply they are secretly constructing a moon base with space stations to strengthen androids who want to kill them.

Ah, when I said

> The machines are using YoRHA to prolong the war indefinitely and force their own evolution in N2's case.

I meant the machines evolution, not the YoRHA units. Regardless of the strength of either side its never meant to end.
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>>173393406
Yes, they are deliberately not eradicating enemies like YoRHa, but then I fail to see how, going back to the original question, 9S is part of "their experiment" because they are not the conductors of YoRHa.
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>>173393404
>When does he figure it out?
when adam mindfucks him
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>>173393662
Be specific or you're just fanwanking
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>>173393758
There is only one scene where 9S is connected to the machine network and has access to their data, since he very obviously knows before the end of the game and that's the only real source he could have gotten it from it's not terribly hard to draw the lines
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>>173393662
Do you have the lines that make you think so? I'm not even out to disagree with you, I just didn't read the scene that way and don't really find the basis for that upon reviewing it. Closest would be the "**** 2B" line, which is intentionally vague, but just because kill is an option in there does not mean 9S was told something as shocking as the woman he's in love with having murdered him countless times and showing no reaction to it, even being glad to see her afterwards.
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>>173393404
I must've missed that somehow as I binged the game within a few days. That does make sense. Guess I'll have to run through it a second time.

>>173393517
I misinterpreted what had gone on. Sorry anon, disregard my posts.
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>>173393758
>fanwanking
Stop this. There is only so much we are actually told, you can have hundreds of possible theories for every little thing, that's how the story was intended to be. As long as something doesn't go against the factual information the game gave us it has some merit to. Obviously there is different degrees of how likely or far fetched something is, but you can't rule it out completely, because that's just the kind of story Taro wrote.
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>>173393921
Ok so fanwanking it is. you're just making shit up. Glad we got that sorted out.
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>>173394076
It's okay, I come off as more dismissive than I want some times. But yeah, the gist is, going by the few [Top Secret] YoRHa files we have, the androids set up YoRHa including the moon server to boost android morale, fooling them into thinking humanity still exists and they have a special super force of better androids to fight for them. The Commander knows that humanity being on the moon is a lie, but she does not know that the androids are basically using YoRHa as a testbed to continuously iterate on newer android models and discard them once it's time to move on, which they do through the backdoor in the Bunker making it look like the machines just took them out. That's as close to the source material of a summary I can give you, the exact details are hazy as the game is more about the characters within this struggle than the exact infrastructure behind it.

I do see how the similarity between androids basically guiding their own evolution like this is more or less what the machines are doing, but that's just another instance of the game equating machines and androids, not saying they are canonically working together in some faux-conflict to drive each other's evolution.

>>173394281
It's not entirely fanwanking. A2 does say 9S knew about 2B killing him in Ending C. I also don't know when exactly he figures that out, but I'm >>173394038 so you know I'm also not really seeing it being in the scene with Adam (so far.)
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>>173394281
And Pascal is just a good natured machine that broke free of the network on its own accord, right?
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>>173394586
>It's not entirely fanwanking. A2 does say 9S knew about 2B killing him in Ending C. I

He's found out about it many times. There's no reason to draw a connection between adam and this information.
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>tfw your general is a polluted cesspit of misinformation because people let it get infested by fanwanking autists.
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>>173394723
What times? Ending C is where the game first reveals that to you. Even the YoRHa records themselves make sure not to reveal "2E" to you earlier than Ending C, which doesn't really make any sense besides hiding that fact from the player.
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>>173394838
The novella prequel tells the story of one of the times 9s found out
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>>173394916
The Memory Cage? Because I thought in that one he still loses to 2B due to that fallback logic virus as he hacks her, ending in his memory getting wiped again.

http://nier2.com/blog/2017/03/07/nierautomata-world-guide-novellas/
>Nonetheless, she still manages to perform her given task and lets her sword loose upon his neck.

>“Signal from black box confirmed lost.”

>And yet, she keeps hearing 9S’s voice in hear head:

>"Good-bye, 2B…"

>"Good-bye, 2B…"
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>>173394826
Just post 2B and fap. Ignore the fanfic retards.
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>>173395089
The point is there are other ways for him to find out, ergo the adam fanfiction is just that. Fanfiction.

God I wish these chris-chan fucks would leave.
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>>173392430
>>173393358
>no mole
GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>173394586
>I do see how the similarity between androids basically guiding their own evolution like this is more or less what the machines are doing, but that's just another instance of the game equating machines and androids, not saying they are canonically working together in some faux-conflict to drive each other's evolution.

I wouldn't say it's too far fetched considering androids and machines hold the same types of cores. I do wonder if we're ever going to get to see the android command as we never really do get an answer as to who initially kicked off the whole thing. Something else I'd like to see addressed is the fact that A2 and units prior didn't have black boxes and thus possibly couldn't have been taken out in the same manner. Does that mean the backdoor isn't present in each cycle and they were wiped out through different means? There are a lot of interesting gaps to think about.
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>>173395324
I'd mind it less if they at least tried to base it in the game or other canon media. The line that 9S knows is in the game, after all, so the question of at what point he finds out is warranted and you could start looking for hints of that *in the game*, not fantasy. It's not like everything in this game is spelt out to you explicitly, that would be awful.
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>>173395485
>the fact that A2 and units prior didn't have black boxes

She doesn't?
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>>173395556
There is a minor hint or two during the executioner side quest iirc.
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>>173395645
As far as I know it's stated that they were given fusion cores instead of black boxes but they were deemed to be too dangerous and thus replaced in future models. This is stated around the first time you get to use berserk.
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Anyone else think Accord being a time hopping android might have had something to do with this? Which was the canon ending of 3 again?
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>>173395790
Is it specifically stated they swapped fusion cores for black boxes or only that the overdrive feature was removed?

Considering the reason for the black boxes it would seem unlikely a2 has an android AI
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>>173395790
Fusion reactor and black box are not the same thing.
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>>173387695
It was your choice to make.
You're only a cunt if you feel like one.
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>>173395681
Here's the entire dialogue from that quest, so you can point out the hints:

https://imgur.com/a/F2QnY
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>>173395912
>>173395923
It's stated overdrive was replaced with self destruct as it burned out the unit too quickly now that you mention it. I guess that answers that question.
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>>173395912
I went to check and the Commander says they picked up A2's black box signal in Ernst's castle. Pic related.
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>>173396572
Whoops, was meant for >>173395790

My bad.
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>Delete my save after ending E
>Start over
>bunker virus part

>"Thank You for... the flowers"
>"Desert FlOWERs are BEAutiFul, arENt' thEY... Th-thank You..."
>"Someday I...."
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>>173396238
Well there's the reveal that there are yorha units that kill their own friends and lovers, those closest to them. The E-type says that 2b looks familiar, which is an odd thing for her to say, especially with the memory erasure. When 9s asks 2b if she knew about e-types she pauses for a while and says that some things are better left unknown which is kinda ominous.

I did say minor hints.
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>>173396238
>lovers
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>>173396707
I don't think it's reasonable to conclude 9S figuring out 2B murders him over and over from these, yes, minor hints. Remember, when he finds those records saying the server on the moon was created as part of YoRHa directly implying it's a ruse, he doesn't actually figure out it is one until the Commander basically tells him. He just naively goes "Boy, that sure is weird!" so I wouldn't expect him to suddenly pick up on even more subtle hints about deceit during that subquest.
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>>173395912
A2 have fusion reactor and a black box.
YoRHa androids have black boxes instead of standard android AI
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>>173396967
I didn't insist that is when he found out, just that it's a hell of a lot more plausible than a fanwanker pulling something out of their ass.

IMO a2's line "you knew that didn't you" isn't entirely literal, the original japanese phrasing might shed some more light on it.

I believe it's meant in the "I've just told you something that you can't refute, and in the back of your mind you know it's true because of the hints" kind of way much like movies and novels have used it it the past.
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>Playing on hard
>Can't get to corpse without dying to A2
>If I somehow pull it off I instantly die as I'm absorbing my old corpse and I just get stuck in a loop
Really good design
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>>173397301
>be shit at game
>get rekt
>"wow what a shit design"
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>>173397509
>Implying
Being completely open to attack immediately after absorbing the corpse is inherently flawed when it comes to harder difficulties and boss fights, let alone that repeats of the boss fight trigger based on proximity instead of combat, so if you fuck up once it's more or less game over say goodbye to your 80k plug-in chips.
Of course, someone like you probably playing on easy wouldn't understand :^)
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>>173397218
What lies staining reality and reasons for hatred pouring into 9S is Adam referring to after the "You're thinking about how much you want to **** 2B, aren't you?" line?
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>>173397793
I haven't given it much thought since it's pointless trying to analyze an UNKNOWN word. I agree it's probably fuck 2b but the game never clarifies one way or the other whether that's even possible.

The exchange in the cap is all very vague and if you try to overanalyze english translations of these blank-screen-short-sentences scenes from any jap franchise you're only gonna have a bad time.
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>>173397701
Not that anon, playing on hard here for my second save file, you're full of horse shit because I res and don't get hit all the fucking time. Get fucking good
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>>173392017
>>173392158
N2 just took a keen interest in 9S because of the unique situation he's been placed in by YoRHa
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>>173397301
If you choose to not restore your previous setup then you won't lose your chips if you get killed while absorbing.
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>>173397701
Is this the a2 fight with the save box like 10-20seconds away? If so, what's the problem?
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>>173397301
...Is this the Forest Kingdom fight against A2? I've died multiple times to her but was able to pick up my chips everytime because your corpse spawns 30m away in front of her, and A2 gives you 30 seconds to pick it up if you don't prematurely start the battle
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What of the androids who created YoRHa, where are they? DLC content perhaps?
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>>173400305
The greater organization of androids, the ones building the bunkers, handling the space launches, building the aircraft carriers etc has been blatantly kept mysterious I doubt they cover it in a dlc It was probably kept in reserve for future games.
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The idea that YoRHa has gone through multiple cycles of establishment and destruction via backdoor was brought up multiple times in these threads. Why is that?
[Top Secret] YoRHa Disposal specifically states that the point of the disposal is to eradicate all documentation on humanities' extinction.
[Top Secret] Project YoRHa is a file from the YoRHa server, addressing said extinction.
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>>173400305
There isn't much about them in the game (as of right now, as you said, it could be expanded on in DLC.) All we basically know is that androids clearly have some type of government and administrations, because the androids who created YoRHa are referred to as the android's "Command." Going by the name "Resistance Camp" I always figured that's just a makeshift ghetto-ass tent in occupied territory with more sophisticated places, maybe even cities, in proper android-controlled territory.

But I don't want to speculate too much. It's basically impossible to infer much about them. Like, imagine someone from 8,000 B.C. trying to figure out our current UN. That's basically what we're trying to do with whatever system of governance or administration the androids 10,000 years into the future are running.
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>>173400551
It gets brought up because people didn't learn the lore. Just like the posts saying YoRHa was created by the machines.
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>Vague Hope
It's been a month since i've finished the game and it still almost makes me cry to a point i can't simply even listen to it.
Even Kaine's Salvation didn't do this to me in first Nier.
Help.
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>>173400551
I think that while YoRHa is a very new thing, prior to it there were some other forms of creation and evolution of combat androids. Anemone mentions that she's a part of eight descent forces from 200 years ago or something. But people blow the whole idea of cycles way too fucking hard out of their asses.
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>>173400594
Logically, if logic can be applied to a game with trucks that have presumably been rusting away for over9000 years, there has to be at least one android city because manufacturing rockets, space stations and aircraft carriers requires them.
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>>173400746
You're right, she does say that. I actually didn't think of the implications at first.
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>Get ending C, D & E in the one sitting
>Feel utterly numb

Major fucking spoilers by the way, looking for clarifications on a couple of things;
>9S learned the truth of the Tower, the Ark, but ultimately each playable character dies.
Is this the proposed "God" ending? The whole Adam and Eve thing?

>A2 destroys the Tower to prevent the thing that wasn't going to happen anyway, but possibly saves the trio in the process.
Does this mean that this is the canon ending?

Loved it so much, will probably platinum it.
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>>173401139
Ending D gets referenced in A2's Unit Data and the Emil Heads' weapon story tell what happens 500 years after the events of the game, strongly implying 2B is there. So it would seem D -> E are the canon endings.

>A2 destroys the Tower to prevent the thing that wasn't going to happen anyway
What do you mean by this?
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>>173398094
>>173397793

I took it as "Fuck" the first time too, but after pondering it a bit, I think it could also be "Love".

2B and 21O constantly tells 9S that he's restricted from having emotions, and they are Ken/Barbie dolls aren't they?

>>173401270
Didn't A2 believe that the Tower was meant as a cannon to shoot at the Human Server?
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>>173401353
She did, but in Ending D the tower collapses too, even though A2 is dead, so I didn't think she actually destroys it there.
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>>173401139
Ending C is called meaningless code for a reason. A2 is fucking dumb.
D gives a real ending to entire story of machine lifeforms, allows 9S to finish his character development and A2 probably still understands that the world is beautiful while dying.
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>>173401353
Love doesn't fit since he already loves her. The game doesn't show anything concrete either way on whether they could fuck or not and there are implications supporting both possibilities so it's all up in the air really.

The only thing we know for sure about yorha emotions is that they're not permitted on missions. The very casual way they discuss lovers suggests that's not the case when they're off duty.

IIrc the cannon was originally intended to shoot the moon but they decided to launch an ark instead?
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>>173401353
You can also use "save" in this situation if it wasn't for a violent reaction from 9S.
He spends the whole game trying to save 2B as hard as he can.
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>>173401446
>A2 is fucking dumb.
How would A2 know that the tower isn't actually aiming at the moon like it is supposed to and fuck with what's left of humanity?
she did the right thing by ending them from her point of view
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>>173401723
>You can also use "save" in this situation
Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion since in that situation he was the one who literally needed saving.

We're all making the mistake of thinking it has to be a 4 letter word when the original riddle is japanese.
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>>173401446
>implying stabbing each other and backup data homo space adventures is not meme ending
Let's get real.
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>>173402132
>tfw next Godhand game

My mind may not be ready, but my body sure is.

>>173402017
Does the Japanese version of the line have a different amount of characters or is it still four?
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>>173402672
IIrc the jap version had less than four characters and it used gibberish squiggles instead of asterisks but the number isn't really relevant for two reasons. Automata takes a lot of liberties with the translation in most dialog and the number of characters in japanese has no bearing on what the right number would be in english. Speculating about it is futile beyond passing the time.
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>>173402672
Japanese doesn't really work that way. It could be one character but still have a bajillion different options just due to how their moon runes work. But the point is just that it's ambiguous and meant to be. Something among the lines of "fuck" or "kill" are just what people naturally fill in there because love and violence are a huge part of this game and media in general and, knowing this game's themes, it sort of doesn't matter which one.
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>>173401614
It could be love in a more physical sense, as in he wants to act on his love for her or make love or something like that.
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>>173401446
>>173401139

I felt like C was the one the ending theme was designed for.
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>>173402017
>We're all making the mistake of thinking it has to be a 4 letter word when the original riddle is japanese.
Relevant:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/comments/62fkee/regarding_the_during_the_second_playthrough/
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>>173404221
same
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>>173404302
Interesting little piece in there;

>お前は2Bを......[こ][ろ]したいと、思ってるんだろう
>O.ma.e wa 2B wo ...... [ko][ro]shi.ta.i.to, o.mo.t.te.ru.n.da.ro.u
>koroshitai >> want to kill
>お前は2Bを......[お][か]したいと、思ってるんだろう
>O.ma.e wa 2B wo ...... [o][ka]shi.ta.i.to, o.mo.t.te.ru.n.da.ro.u
>okashitai >> want to r@pe
>both makes sence in japanese also.
>Edit:
>also [あ][い]したい
>[a][i]shi.ta.i >> want to love
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>>173348613
Because the requirements are bloated.
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>>173404302
It's an interesting time waster speculating and putting different words in there but does anyone seriously think it's not fuck? As has been covered many times already in the relevant novella 9s has no feelings of hostility towards 2b even when she's trying to kill him which rules out "killl"

Nothing else really fits and it's obvious that given the chance he'd fuck 2b until his robo shota dick fell off but hats off to taro for causing such a stir I guess.
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>>173404750
>does anyone seriously think it's not fuck?
I believe it's kill.
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>>173404750
>Entire game going out of it's way to question existentialism
>Thinking that it'd be a shallow, single answer; "fuck"

It's utter poetry, by leaving it ambiguous you can create multiple meanings. It's fine as it is and was probably meant for discussion anyway.
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>>173404902
Exactly, it's intentional.
Refer back to the reddit link and scroll down, one poster highlights the fact that "fuck" is in the game uncensored.
So there's no reason to censor it as **** except to hint that it isn't as straightforward as "fuck".
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>>173404837
Sure if you ignore the novella which is canon.

>>173404902
Discuss what though? The novella shows it's not kill. The other possibility is that it's a censored curse word which backs up the most obvious answer which is fuck.

If it's not kill, what else could it be? People are making this more complicated than it is.
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>>173405078
that redditor is saying "fuck" was uncensored in nier, not automata.
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>>173405108
Quote the portion of the novella that confirms it can't be kill. We can wait.
Oh, and then explain why it's displayed as **** when the word fuck isn't censored anywhere else.
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In my mind, the censored part might not stand for any simple word like kill, love or fuck. It seems more a stand-in for "express/live out your passion for".
The game at least outwardly states that love, passion, strife and violence are all mixed up for androids by design.
So it may be a term we simply don't have, something that is not either desire to kill or fuck or love but all of them in one undifferentiated package.
Considering the Androids have to find whatever meaning and fulfillment they can in an endless war on someone else's behalf, this could even be considered a kindness on the designers part.

On the other hand, I don't remember any of the Androids expression a particular passion for combat itself, which is odd, now that I think about it.
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>>173405173
No, he's saying it's uncensored in Automata. I checked, it's in the machine research report intel data that you receive at the end of the game and Jackass is the author. Load up your game, it's right there.
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>>173359378
Why do artfags do this? They pay attention to the small details and then forget that she has a beauty spot beneath her lip.
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>>173405108

Fits
>Feel, Love, Find, Copy, Face, etc

Kind of Fits but not really
>Bond, Deny, lift, have, hunt, etc

>>173405229
>>173405247
These
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>>173374640
The Devola and Popola in NieR 1 were in heaven in the ending B cutscene
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>>173405229
Kill appears uncensored on multiple occasions.
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I have done everything. Hours and hours later, Emil refuses to move. I've danced in and out of zones, I've reloaded saves, I went on to do quests, I stole the mask from his house, I got his lunar tears, I've talked the shit out of him, but this 10000 year old gay clone skeleton child weapon refuses to move out from the desert location. I hate this.
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>>173405403
Explain why fuck would be censored if it's uncensored elsewhere.
I can tell you why kill would be censored - because the game doesn't want us to learn about 2E until the penny drops at the end of route c.
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>>173405229
>Oh, and then explain why it's displayed as **** when the word fuck isn't censored anywhere else.

Because it doesn't appear in the games dialogue anywhere else?

>>173405304
fair enough but being buried deep in an archive that the average player will never see and would easily slip past a potential censor is different to being in the games dialogue. Also I'd like to know if fuck is an appropriate translation in jackasses writing in the original japanese if she is saying it as an expletive or if she means to fuck someone. (I sacrificed my save)

Frankly I don't know where people are getting kill from since 9s has never shown even the slightest hint of malice towards 2b in any canon.

You think 9s is so insane with rage at machines and A2 because they got to kill 2b before he did? lolwut? I
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>>173405531
I'm not the guy who thinks it has to be fuck.
It's not censored. It's hidden for ambiguity.
Taro wants you to come to your own conclusion on the word.
I personally think it's love.
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On a lore-unrelated note:
What kind of playstyle and settings do you find most enjoyable?
I played my first run on hard, with maxed out weapons and pods, and mostly defensive chips to reduce oneshotting.
After deleting my saves, I'm now playing on normal, with baseline weapons and unarmed, using fun/utility chips except for an Offensive Heal +1, and playing without consumables and I honestly find it more fun so far.
It's really exciting when you mess up, take some hits and your UI starts failing so you can't see the attack flashes anymore, but you have to get in there and do damage to heal.
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>>173405629
Grasping.

It says fuck twice in that data. You're either saying they translated it from Japanese, where it would've been censored, and somehow uncensored it (???) or you're saying it was incorrectly uncensored in Japanese and thus uncensored when translated to English, meaning it bypassed censorship *twice*.

It's a garbage argument. Uncensored fucks were intentional, just accept it.
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It's cuck.
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>>173405887
>What kind of playstyle and settings do you find most enjoyable?
Normal mode, but with active CE usage to keep my level lower. This way i get to enjoy boss battles a lot more, chip setup actually matter and nothing takes away my lock-on.
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>>173401024
so this is where the misconception about a2 being over 200 years old came from.

people took this as assuming "it's happening 200 years ago right now" and since a2 appears they went "well she's over 200!", while all this says is anemone is over 200, since her mission happened a long time ago, long before a2's pearl harbor which happens just 4 years before automata.
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>>173405887
>First run on Normal
>2B/A2, aerial combos and heavy finishers
>9S, H A C K E R M A N
>2B has more balanced Chipset, 9S is HACKER based, A2 was my pure aggro chipset

I'll do hard for my clean up run / plat run.

Might speedrun this game at somepoint too, shouldn't be too hard.
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>>173405781
The phrasing makes no sense. It would would be "you're thinking about how much you **** 2b" not "want to **** 2b" Then we'd be speculating about whether it means love or hate.

>>173405891
Pure speculation. First you have to show that they used an equivalent word to fuck in japanese in the archives, which is doubtful since the english translation has very colourfully interpreted the jackass character, even more so than the regular dialog.
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>>173404302
>http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233047350&postcount=3453
>Got a reply from the friend who works in the same office where they did the italian translation. She talked with someone who handled it about the whole **** question and he said to her that it is in fact "kill" in the english version but it's also interchangeable with fuck since canon-wise they share the same meaning, and it is deliberately left ambiguous
Huh.
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>>173405887
My first run I was using attack up, shockwave, overclock, critical up offensive heal, deadly heal and HP up on hard.
I'm on hard again but things were getting too easy so I'm sticking with non combat chips like death rattle, drop rate up and item scan.
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>>173406078
I'm only saying "slipped past a censor" is a bs statement, especially when taking into account Taro's other works - did you forget about potty-mouthed Kaine? There's no reason to hide curse words in Taro's games.
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>>173406267
>There's no reason to hide curse words in Taro's games.

Yet the dialog for automata contains no swearing so that's not really an argument. All we know is that some flavor text in an archive on the english version has a swear word that may or may not appear in the original.
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>>173406078
As I pointed out earlier, it could be love in a more physical sense.
You want to act on your feelings/you want to make love to 2B.
Sure, fuck works the same but love can be used in that context and I think it suits their relationship better.
Fuck implies a lack of romantic feelings.

But hey, that's just a theory.
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>>173405629
the game was rated 18+. trying to censor "fuck" because "it's a bad word" makes no sense.
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>>173406418
They say shit a few times, again uncensored. You're deluding yourself if your explanation for using **** instead of fuck is based on how "bad" of a swear word it is, when it and other swear words are used uncensored in the game.
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>>173406592
Where was it rated 18+
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>>173406592
The game is rated 13+ in NZ.
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>>173406738
on steam.
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>>173406738
18 in Europe and 17 in Japan, that I know of.
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>>173406692
Nobody is deluding themselves because there is no correct answer. Except maybe the people who think that when they see a 4 letter word censored out with asterisks they don't automatically think fuck.

Also we're talking about a character that obviously loves 2b and badly wants to fuck her until his batteries go flat.

Granted the game does have a minor theme with love being related to combat but really? People actually think 9s wants to kill 2b when there's not a shred of evidence to support that and all evidence points towards fuck?

I don't know what to tell you. Maybe they're just edgelords? Maybe they want to feel superior for figuring out the non existent secret? mayeb they just want to argue?
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>>173406881
>>173406982
That's strange. In my experience, NZ is usually more conservative with game ratings.
Every GTA for example was 18+
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>>173407027
>Also we're talking about a character that obviously loves 2b and badly wants to fuck her until his batteries go flat.
>mfw mistaking fanfiction for canon
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>>173407110
Sooo what? He keeps putting her welfare before his own because he wants to... hold hands with her? Is that it?
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>>173407027
>not a shred of evidence to support that
Guess we can ignore all the dialogue right before about how much hatred is inside 9S' heart
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Somewhere right now Taro laughs just thinking about what a shitload of discussions he started by beeping one word in a dialogue line.
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>>173407027
>People actually think 9s wants to kill 2b when there's not a shred of evidence to support that and all evidence points towards fuck?
lol did we play the same game? Come back after you finish Route C, bro.
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>>173407240
derp, meant for >>173407240

>>173407243
Hatred towards who or what? It's unspecified. Apparently it's not towards 2b because he's always putting her own welfare before his own and her death sends him insane.
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>>173407413
>Hatred towards who or what?
I don't know man I guess we will never know why it's placed right before "you're thinking about how much you want to **** 2B" truly mere coincidence
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>>173407491
It's after, not before iirc. And when 2b scooped him up in her arms was probably the happiest he's ever been.

Strange how anyone could think he hates her with a reaction like that.
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>>173407619
Just played it. It's right before.
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>>173407027
>>173407413
This guy... *sigh*
There's always got to be one dude who can't see the forest for the trees.
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>>173407413
towards the one stealing his memories for one.
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>>173407736
I can't figure you autists out. Ok so say he wants to kill 2b. What's his beef with a2? Is he angry because she got to kill 2b before him? Why does 2b's death send him insane?
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>>173407027
>People actually think 9s wants to kill 2b when there's not a shred of evidence to support that
>not a shred of evidence
about that
>Suddenly, she felt as though something was behind her when bullets began to rain down upon her. It was the long-range attack from a Pod.

>As she stepped back to correct her stance, she saw the edge of a sword falling. At some point, she didn’t know when 9S managed to ambush her from behind who proceeded to attack with a long sword.

>She never imagined that 9S would preemptively strike at her. She intended on striking him down quickly, but it was she who came under fire first.

>- The Memory Cage by Eishima Jun
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>>173407970
He doesn't WANT to kill her it's an act of self defense. The ending makes that pretty clear.
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>>173407862
he both loves and hates her. it's a love hate relationship. he can't help loving her, but he also resents her for memory wiping her.

that's why even though he finally realizes the dark shadow that was in his mind, responsible for erasing his memories is 2b he keeps stabbing her. he loves her, but he can't forgive her for destroying his memories of her over and over.

it's a complex thing.
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>>173407862
As well as what the others have said, don't forget that killing 2B doesn't result in a permanent death, but a loss of recent memories like 9S has had to endure so many times.
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>>173408079
>but he also resents her for memory wiping her.
> he can't forgive her for destroying his memories of her over and over.

There's no evidence of that whatsoever you're projecting.

>that's why even though he finally realizes the dark shadow that was in his mind, responsible for erasing his memories is 2b he keeps stabbing her

Woah settle down there shadow hedgehog.
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>>173408245
From: the guy projecting his own fantasies onto these characters:
>we're talking about a character that obviously loves 2b and badly wants to fuck her until his batteries go flat.
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>>173408245
i take it you didn't play the game then, nor did you read the additional books.

>>173407654 was right.
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>>173408374
Luckily for me there's a ton of evidence that he loves/wants to fuck her and zero evidence he bears her any malice.

For your edgy theory to be true the pods must be a pair of sadists too.
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So you figure out that the person at your side is there to keep you on a leash and kill you if you overstep some arbitrary bounds you don't really understand. You fight back, but realize you can't possibly win. Your only choice is to live with the other, who has no more choice in the matter than you do, who is at once your companion, protector and executioner.
Yeah, I wonder how that would lead to developing anything but the most simple and straightforward feelings towards said person.
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>>173408549
Hate the game baby not the player.
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I'll wear your fucking machine face like a moron party-mask
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>>173408602
the problem is not the horse but the rules
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>>173408548
>>173408602
>zero evidence he bears her any malice.
Be honest, have you actually played this game, or have you only browsed fan fiction and fan art?

My guess is the latter and you're just trolling us, because no one who paid attention to the game could possibly be that oblivious.
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>>173408804
Ok cite me a single example of 9s bearing 2b any malice. inb4 self defense

>>173408779
Exactly. They're both stuck in this mess and it's not either of their faults but they've still got each other.
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>>173322881
But why did her hair turn white?
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>>173409227
Stress.
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>>173409227
Haven't you watched any anime?
Extreme psychological trauma causes your hair to turn white.
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>>173409680
how does that even work? it's synthetic, why it would turn white from stress?
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>>173408775
I chuckled
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Would you a gyaru 2B? Be honest.
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>>173410394
Sure why not it's only makeup
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>>173408775
Holy shit I completely forgot about E.Y.E.
Now that I think about it the YoRHa designs remind me a bit of it
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>>173410394
Nines
Get the rope.
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>>173410394
I would a gyaru anyone.
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>>173410394
>pods merging into one being
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What are the essential sidequests for the first nier?
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After going down in Emil's House and stealing his mask I never manage to get him to spawn again, am I doing somethng wrong?
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>>173411316
hack the chest
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>>173411440
Am I not supposed to go back to the surface, talk to him a second time and then head back again?
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>>173411508
You are. Just keep resetting the world, sometimes he just doesn't spawn
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>>173411551
Aight, I'll keep trying, thanks man.
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is that A2 in 2B's dress or just 2B with long hair?
please help I don't speak moon runes
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>>173412121
A2
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>>173412121
I don't know what it does say but neither A2 or 2B are mentioned in the dialogue.
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Just fought Emil the first time. Feels bad. He was just living life until I came along and stole his shit just to get a joke ending.
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>>173412336
His life was already a joke
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>>173412336
His shitty music ruined emotional moments. He deserved it.
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so uh does anyone else feel nier automata is an extremely overrated game in regards to story and gameplay?

cos uh yeah that's definitely how i feel
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>>173412758
uh maybe you uh walked on the wrong uh general, you feel me bro

>inb4 i got ending A and finished the game
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>>173412758
uh ,
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>>173412758
uh uh uh no uh
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>>173412821

nah, nearly did quit because the idea of playing 9S was nauseating but I forced myself through all 3 endings.

seems like this game was so desperate to be different with its "endings unlock moar story!" and certain personalities (you) seem to really eat that stuff up even if it's entirely shallow and delivery was only ok at its best points. writing pretty meh too.

avant-garde for the sake of being avant-garde, sorta like neon demon after the success of Drive.
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>>173413095
I disagree. I feel like the story requires emotional investment to enjoy but you shouldn't force yourself to play it if you don't have any emotional investment
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>>173413095
>>>>>>>>3 endings
i laught at you and your entitled opinions
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>>173413095
>3 endings
You may be missing things
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>>173412758
Welcome to everything. You have to find your own way. You just have to ignore the shitty bits and savor the good stuff.

I've never actually used a weapon in this game after I figured out you could turn them off and always have 2b or 9s set to passive. It's still good though in it's own way
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>>173413267

oh yeah i don't really count endings like unplugging your CPU, dying, or walking off the first map with 9S to be 'endings'.

sure there are alternatives depending on who you take to the fight or e.g. choices w/ pascal but obviously my autism isn't at the level I'm going to detail all the ending letters.

>>173413187

at what point were you invested in the characters? pretty much at no point was I relating or feeling any empathy to the characters or what was going on.

no more emotionally invested than the end of MGSPP where you kill random nameless guys in your FOB.

meh I think most strong advocates are sorta caught up in the hardcore nostalgia of the previous games.
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>>173413529
the story ends at E. people argue that Y is a canon ending but thats just because its the end of emil.

theres literally nothing linking it to the previous games. knowing of them will just give you some idea where the weapon lore for instance comes from.
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>>173413095
What games do you like?
Also why are you here?
Don't you know /vg/ is the circlejerk board?
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>>173413529
>Has no empathy towards characters
>Pays no attention to side-content
>Adamant that they are correct and expects people to simply change their opinions to suit them
>Shits up a thread where they know they are in the minority simply because they believe that people will suddenly take their side
Have you considered that you are a psychopath?
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>>173413529
I related to the characters and their emotions, and I enjoyed the time I spent with them ingame especially due to their discourse and banter, made them seem human.
And I disagree about the nostalgia. I never played a Taro game in my life and this game introduced it to me, and because of it I'm playing NieR 1 right now was we speak. Sometimes we don't understand why people enjoy things, but if we did there'd be no point to having something of your own that you can treasure and hold onto. I'm sure you have things you enjoy that other people feel the same way about as you feel about this.
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>>173413682

nah, but have you considered your decision to inject malice into me asking questions, inventing a narrative of me being prescriptive, and invading your 'exclusive' club is indicative of your attitude/position in life?
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>>173413529
>I think most strong advocates are sorta caught up in the hardcore nostalgia of the previous games.

I don't agree with you on not empathizing with toobs or nines but I do suspect the majority of the deviantart faggotry infecting this general comes from the older games yes.
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>>173325670
My fps is garbage now.
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>That scene where Nines is stabbing the energy ball, but shows 2B

Was that meant to be a remnant of 2B's memory or was it just a visualisation of his descent into madness?
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Is translator-kun on?
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>>173414064
The entity he was fighting in his OS took shape as 2B while appearing to delete his memories just to piss him off
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I don't get how some people like the nier 1 ost better. It's good but gets too repetitive in game.

The lost shrine one was the worst offender so far.
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>>173414064
He understandably lost his shit when the machine entity took on the form of 2b. It makes for interesting visuals but he knew it wasn't 2b don't read too much into it.
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>>173413529
I believe that you feel this way because you "rushed" through the story and you probably weren't invested in the game.
side quests are a big part of the univers and set up world building and characterization.
If you felt nothing whole game and you had the impression to "kill random nameless guys" you either missed like I said on sidequests or you have very few empathie.
I have never played nier by the way
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>>173413965
Get him drunk.
That part should be easy.
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>>173414223
what do I do about his current wife?
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Am I doing something wrong for the Emil Determination quest to start? I have 100% all weapons, including Emil Heads, but Emil will only tell me that he has secured his items in a lockbox. Is there a specific area I need to go to or chapter to begin it? I can't fight Emil again as the chest is unlocked.
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>>173414650
It's usually in Route C, there should now be a quest marker in the shopping center.
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>>173350250
I'd be one of the amusement park bots so I can hop in and ride with this >>173350396 anon.
It was fun as hell trying to stay on that thing when battling it.

Or I guess one of those fast moving bots with the sword seen in the desert, sans the sword
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>>173414818
Hmm nothing here. I even ran there.
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>>173414284
Has she played any of his games?
If you make her play them, she might question why she married such a disturbed freak.
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>>173415165
Not entirely sure. Maybe exit out and reload a Route C chapter to reset Emil?
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>>173415208
I'll try that, thanks.
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>>173413653
>theres literally nothing linking it to the previous games

Other than, you know, literally the entire setup of where the androids came from. Clearly nothing important to most people judging by so many saying that but I feel like it's half the reason people got so confused thinking shit like the machines created the androids or other nonsense.
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>>173415267
There is actually quite a lot linking it, especially in characters like Devola and Popola, Emil, and even data you find
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>>173413151
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>>173415368
if you want, I can edit it to remove the vignette around the edges
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>>173415208
>>173415251
This just reset the entire scenario. I could try robbing and fighting him again I suppose.

getting stressed by this sidequest because I assumed it'd be straightforward
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>>173415197
She drew this >>173413965
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>>173415197
Why would she not know about his games?
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>>173415424
It's perfect, thanks
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>>173413653
whoever argues for ending y to be canon is an idiot. ending y is a bad end where earth is completely destroyed.

the ending you're speaking of has no letter assigned.
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>>173389381
>it would be better if there were fewer people on this planet
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>>173417963
>tfw I cum inside popola
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Goddamn I can't do this Emil fight again. He's doing this nuke thing that he never did before. I've given it a few goes but now I'm too stressed.
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I need help with the Machine Examination 2, every time that I go to talk with him he says that he needs to rest. What can I do to solve it?
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>>173414121
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>>173421041
Go do something else and come back later.
Let a nigga rest
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>>173421176
>>173421041
For this, I feel like it is clock based. Come back in like an hour.
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>>173421064
Wish I could read moons. This looks cute.
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>>173421176
>>173421257

It passed already more than 1 hour in gameplay but still nothing.
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>>173421918
Go do quests or something
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>>173422175

I am just before at the missile supply quest, I did all other sidequests avavible, infact I have 80% completation. This is the only sidequest that I have left.
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>>173422270
Oh shit I dunno then bruh
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Requesting the "Crushed nut" picture with skirtless 2B thanks
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>That moment when Pascal is a boy
>Clearly has a female voice actor
>Clearly isn't masculine
>Is a robit so why the fuck is calling himself a twink

I get that actual Pascal was an important dude, but the character in game just didn't really fit the name.
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>>173412121
It's hard to move in these clothes...

Anyways aren't you going to comment on it?

Nope (not interested)

>>173414121
[Top Right]
We will make YoRHa's S model's dream come true!!

[Top left]
This is a Scanner Model's power!!
A 6 person earth trip TV special

[Bottom 1st panel, 9S is muttering this btw]
futon... Peel back my futon cover

[Third Panel, on underwear]
Nines

[Third Panel, fan]
Hate
[bottom]
As expected <3

>>173421064
Received a room at the Resistance Camp.
*Woah. It's rather spacious.*
*This will help out.*

I'll use this bed.

But you know, I would've been fine with only one bed.

...?
Why?

*Bishounen mode at point blank●Maximum power

Even though you always say, "You can tell if you just look"...

You're making me say it in this situation...?

You're surprisingly mean 2B...

U...Umm...
A B-model's CPU performance isn't as great as those on S-models...!
So if you could tell me what you mean then that would help me out...!

*This situation...?*

I'm sorry! I'm really sorry!
It was nothing!
Forget everything just now 2B!!

My heart shouldn't feel but it's in extreme pain right now!!
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>>173334417
How can Emil Heads reference the future? Time fuckery?
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>>173424629
Whose hand is it?
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>>173423425
They're all robots. They have no gender.
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>>173426727
Thank you, anon.

>>173426812
I have no idea.
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>>173320419
You have to think about it in terms of the gameplay and aesthetics as well - not just the words. The words are simple but the utilization of them has a lot more powerful implications. Incidentally, I think by the very idea of forcing the player to play these options rather than just read about them - it's more existentialist than any existential book (existentialism has always been about putting away theories after all)

For one, the game draws from so many gameplay styles that its almost like a microcosm of all games. Despite having so many styles - Ending E finishes with a retro style shmup where you 'destroy' the medium of games itself (or its producers). And so this is a game where you actually destroy a God who is revealed to be human with your own bare hands - which ingrains the message more than how Nietzsche merely aphorizes it.
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>>173315685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SvieLSjaiE
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Sartre ;-;
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>>173428938
Nice.
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>>173429307
>the amount of cute 2B/9S art probably outweighs even the amount of 2B lewds at this point
Taro, you fucking madman.
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>>173429995
I want to BEFRIEND Taro
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So when's A2 in my other favorite game?
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>>173422802
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So I got OG Nier Ending B and I just need one thing clarified;
When a Replicant becomes sentient and gets its own consciousness, then the Gestalt relapses and loses its consciousness and goes nuts and attacks people, and because of that the Replicant gets the Black Scrawl?
So what happened was people took too long to get rid of the WCS, so the Replicants eventually got their own consciousness, the Gestalts relapsed and attacked and the Black Scrawl started going around?
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I want to steal a S-model.
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>>173431124
If the relapsed gestalt dies that is when the replicant gets the black scrawl if I record correctly
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>>173431124
Yup.
Humanity didn't think the Replicants would develop their own consciousness neither did they expect for it to take so long to get rid of the WCS.
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Playing on very hard could not highlight any better how shitty the boss fights are

Yeah sure i'll dodge boku-shi jumping up and down outside of screen

Yeah sure i'll dodge the giant snake barrage of laser when I cant even keep track of where the head is

Yeah sure i'll fight a dark skinned eve in a black tornado as he pelt me with shit I can barely see or use a punch with almost no startup when i'm close

You never feel like you masterfully dodge a boss you pretty much dodge and pray, making you feel unprecise as fuck
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>>173431124
IIRC Gestalt relapses if the replicant is killed. Otherwise they are just mildly salty that their supposed hosts gained sentience and are slaughtering them.
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when can I collect wheat and melons in my garden? (nier 1)
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>>173315685
Okay I figured out how to get textures and should be able to repack them.

Anyone want to join my autism quest?
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>>173432720
That looks fairly corrupted, actually. If you get them properly I'd love it if you uploaded them somewhere in a normal image format.
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They went shopping
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>>173433325
i think it's just missing the alpha channel.

getting textures is pretty simple since there are tools that extract them into generic dds format. i wish there was something to open the models though.

ninja ripper doesn't work right with the game. the lighting is inverted, and the areas that should be in the shadow are getting lit up.
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>>173426727
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>>173433952
that was some cute shopping
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>>173434217
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>>173434186
That texture just kind of looks like a mess, that's why I thought it was corrupted. Did you manage to extract one that has maybe text or something on it? Then it should be easy to tell how accurate it is.

And shouldn't flipping normals fix the lighting being inverted?
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>>173434403
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>>173434563
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>>173434728
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>>173433952
QT!!! Taro really needs to make a shopping date DLC.
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>>173434898
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What is up with the resistance anyway? I finished all relevant endings and i still dont know anything about them or the people who make the decisions (the cicle with YoRHa). Also, what was project Gestalt? What did Devola and Popola oversee in their city? What did the other Twin-pair fuck up?
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>>173435646
Go play Nier you dumb shit this is a sequel.
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>>173435646
For that last part maybe you should play/watch a playtrough/read a lore summary of the original nier
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>>173433952
no tight leather YoRHa shorts ;_;
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>>173434429
doesn't seem to do anything about the shadow direction, it just fucks up the surface.

the only thing that fixes it is clearing custom split normals data, but that also makes the model look fucked, destroying the smoothing.
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>PS3 game
>7 years old
>Lukewarm reviews
>Selling for more than $40

Is this the power of Automata? Why is the original Nier so expensive? Dammit.
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>>173431151
So they were killed by Yorha right?
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>>173435862
>>173435865
Alright i read something, thanks. First question still remains. Any lore-bits scattered in the game i probably missed about the resistance or the non-YoRHa androids?
If only the YorHa models had blackboxes, and thus are sentinent with a kind of free will, why do other androids have emotions?
Why did Anemone decide to run away and therefore risk a failure of the mission if androids are programmed to absolutely do what is necessary to achieve victory? Does she have free will as well?
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If you had 2bs arm welded on, would you ever leave the house?
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>>173439347
It was around $30-$40 ever since I can remember
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>>173439575
Anemone's logs give you a little bit of backstory, and you're backwards on the black boxes; YoRHa are the ones without free will and true AI while the other androids have it for real.

Some androids created YoRHa as a morale booster for the rest of the androids since they all felt like their life was meaningless with their original purpose - bringing humanity back - gone. You don't really need to know anything else about them.
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>>173439347
They never printed a lot of copies and they're id-jets who never put it out digitally either.

Fucking Square.
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>>173330342
The ladder glitch, the funky transport animation where the characters' legs wig out, the glitch with the conveyor belts in the factory if you go back in as 2B/A2, and it fixes the hit boxes on those gates that open in the amusment park. Those are the ones I noticed.
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>>173439946
>YoRHa are the ones without free will and true AI while the other androids have it for real.
Blackboxes are build with machine cores. Machines are sentinent and have a free will (the ones disconnected from the network) as seen with Pascal and many other machines.
I think you got it backwards? I dont know anymore.
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>>173440513
Machines are not meant to be sentient or have free will, just like the Replicants were not meant to grow sentience and free will, but did anyway.

You are explicitly told that YoRHa androids do not have true AI, as it was deemed inhumane. That does not mean they can't develop up if left to their own devices however, as things tend to do that in this universe.
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>>173439469
Yup.
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>>173440682
I understand. If androids are able to chose their own destiny like machines do, why would they just rust away in idle if they lose their objective of fighting the machines (as stated in this thread) ?
Why would they not develop own desires and motivations? Even the most simple things.
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>>173440243
You get it from the Amazarashi - Deserving of Life CD.
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>>173441126
The androids needed a reason to keep fighting. They're in an eternal stalemate with the machines and they need the hope that they can eventually bring humanity back once they finish to push them to keep trying.
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>>173441641
This answered indirectly my question. I forgot all android motivation is centered around humans.
So, machines are actually more "human" than androids in the end.
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>Still can't casually listen to Weight of the World because it continues to trigger emotions that I thought were long dead
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>>173423425
Why Pascal is the only machine that don't speak mechanically?

Yeah Adam and Eve doesn't too, but they're special.
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>>173443172
Pascal was created by N2 or something. To test out stuff.
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>>173443172
Pascal was created (just like Adam and Eve) by the network (basically controlled by N2) to gather data on different aspects of humanity to research various paths of evolution.

In his village Pascal was the only one that truly had free thought, he did what he thought was best, but was designated to be a pacifist. The other village machines were simply unwilling to fight and mimic whatever simple human based mindset designated to them by the network (Like the desert tribe machines or theme park machines). Due to Pascal's higher intelligence and freedom his speech, as a pure and traditional robot, is most similar than other's to a human's.
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>>173315685
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=682947327

Nier Freecam.


Features:
Freecam
HUD fade
Timescale
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>>173429995
All according to his plan.
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>>173444097
if pascal was made as a pacifist, did he have to be specifically enabled by the network to fight other machines at the factory, or his design allowed that to happen in such events?
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>>173444521
The machines at the amusement park are peaceful but will still defend themselves, I would also assume then that the machine keep their former offensive capabilities with only their "programing" or mindset changed.

It would make sense then, that pascal fought after he "snapped" during the village corruption. He allowed himself to change after being traumatized and overcome his pacifism.

Still cool as fuck that he took over an Engel body.
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RIP thread
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>>173447804
Yeah, it's dead. But Kyle (9S) is going to stream the game with Kira (2B) right now.
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>>173448540
whos that
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>>173448862
The voice actor of 9S. twtich kylemccarley
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>>173444296
The script works fantastically. It's got some pretty insane camera setting, the first one in this webm is cool as hell and I don't even know what's happening. It's like an aperture dial or some other photography term I don't know. Whatever it is, it's amazing for framing screenshots if you wanted perfect composition.

I'll be starting my game over and binding time slow/stop to button presses so I can photograph the best panty shots the WORLD has EVER seen.
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>>173447804
Bound to happen, just like the DoD3 generals. Let them die, resume threads occasional threads on /v/, and wait for the next game to spark these up again.
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>>173449760
>first one
I mean third one. The first one is just a bunch of camera rolls.
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>>173449871
It is dead because you want, the ones in /v/ are active as fuck
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>>173450909
/v/ ones are also full of shitposting and the same questions being asked over and over.
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>>173447804
Thanks for the fun times, see you all on the 17th.
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>>173456314
what happens on the 17th?
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>>173457313
Livestream to celebrate hitting 1 million digital sales/physical shipments. Taro and some others who worked on the game are gonna be there as well as a mystery guest. Based on the placeholder image for the stream people figure it'll include an announcement of DLC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tltdMKMveg
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>>173457313
They'll unveil the 1 million sales celebratory DLC on that date. Keep your hopes reasonable as it hasn't even been two months since the game rolled out.
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>>173457632
>>173457635
Oh fun.
Well if this is our last thread until than it was fun making Routes B - Z.
Hope the DLC will be pretty fun.
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>>173458047
delete this picture at once
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This is the end /ndg/!
Goodbye! Goodbye!
May we die and become as gods!
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>>173457632
DLC?

Poor Taro, Square is forcing him into working again so soon.
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>>173461404
Become as gods. ;_;
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This general dying is good. It shouldn't become another sc2, d2g, lolg, ksg, etc. garbage.

It was already getting worse for some time anyway.
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What's with all the doom and gloom? Yes, things tend to slow down as we exhaust what's there to discuss, but there are news with very likely new content to follow on the horizon still.
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Alert.
/ndg/ Black Box signal is fading.
However, small signs of activity still remain.
The choice is yours:
>Let /ndg/ finally have its rest.
>Let /ndg/ live, just a little bit longer.
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Slow moving generals are the best. All the underage phonefags and tumblr fucks addicted to constant stimulation get bored and leave.
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>tfw you find the flight unit by the shore of the flooded city in Route C
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>>173462062
Time to die
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>>173462221
And we're left with nothing but meta posts like yours and people talking about how it's dying, great thread.
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>>173462409
now do gathering keepsakes
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>>173462668
I only caught the flight unit the second time I've gone through route C but I did gathering keepsakes the first go round
>when Kaine's Salvation starts playing
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>>173462062
>No choice to murder /ndg/.
What's wrong with murder?
Anon rhymes with murder.
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>21O has a very strong in the human concept of a family
>At the start of route C she acts like a strict maternal figure toward 9S
I would never have realized this if not for the people in the voice actors stream bringing it up. God.
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>>173463081
we also talk about it

its a safe bet yorha droids are scheduled for destruction regularly to cull their "machine" development
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Kinda disappointed with the second Emil fight, but I did feel really bad for the poor crazy felllas I had to murder
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>>173463081
>>At the start of route C
Hahaah

;_;
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>>173316867
no justice for best girls
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can you self destruct 2B right at the beginning of the game?
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>>173463646
Yes. You are even rewarded with a jokey bad end if you decide to be horny too early.
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>>173463646
After the bunker when you turn on self destruct.
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>>173464054

fuck i just bought the game and wanted to fap immediatly, guess i have to play for a little
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Why aren't you dual wielding spears?
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>>173464641
Too busy doing pole twirling animations on my large swords
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What am I meant to do if I die and my game screen just stays black and doesn't continue?
Just accept that I've lost a 50k plug in chip set with nothing I can do about it?
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>>173467419
Nevermind I guess it didn't count me dying.
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>>173359378
Is A2 filled with defects? I noticed some details like weird shape on her tits and these doll like articulations.
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>>173462062
Just a little longer if you're able. I just got here.
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So, the following just happened. Playing as 9s at the forest level and I pulled 10 enemies and was redying my gravity skill.
Suddenly the game freezes, I hear the mgs (!) sound and my game closes.

What on earth?
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>>173465074
finished the game a week ago and discovered that animation yesterday, holy shit its amazing
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>>173467954
The mgs sound is from FAR.
Usually Kaldien says it because of third-party program interference that causes a crash.
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So tell me your favorite
Small Sword
Great Sword
Spear
Punch stuff
Enemy
I want yo know you guys better, if you can give justification even better
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>>173467895
shes old and worn

its not just dirt, she has pieces of herself falling off
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>>173469206
Sounds hots is it normal?
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This general died down fast. I'm pretty sure /mscg/lasted longer and that game was niche as fuck.
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>>173468961
I like the hand to hand combat the best for how incredible the unarmed animations look in slow-motion
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>>173468961
I went trough the entire game playing with Virtuous Contract, Virtuous Treaty and Cruel Oath.
I'm probably the most boring asshole. But it just didn't feel right to use anything else.
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>>173469387
I get what you are saying, I had to force myself to use other stuff because if felt wrong but I still wanted to see how they looked like
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Has anyone slowed down the compressed conversation?
It sounds like there are words in there.
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Has anyone found a way to get Emil to move if he's REALLY fucking stuck? I've played this game for about 30 hours and he's NEVER moved. I've googled it and tried every solution I've seen and nothing has worked. He really loves that desert area.
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Black Box signal lost.
Good bye, /ndg/ See you again soon,
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>>173470449
Stop being retarded. This isn't some obscure puzzle or some shit, talk to him once and then just reload over and over just like everyone else did.
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>>173470758
Can't we just turn this into another waifu posting general?
I don't want it to end.
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>>173470909
Okay
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>>173470909
why not? POST WAIFUS.
In my case i will post my husbando (sadly with her waifu)
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>>173470269
I'm also curious about this. I should test out playing a video of that scene at 0.25 speed on Youtube and see if that yields anything
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>>173470909
There's no fanart of Amnesia Type-E so I can't contribute.

That's why I'm a writefag.
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>>173470909
isn't that how generals die?
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>>173471195
Nah they die when they get killed
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>>173470909
Okay but someone has to make the new thread
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>>173471121
What story are you writing?

>>173471195
White. I love you.
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>>173471278
do it, bring us to live!
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>>173471195
Damn she's cute
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Making the new thread will kill this thread so be on the lookout
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