/hkg/ - Hollow Knight General

Dead thread
Dead game
Dead life

Time to give up the ghost. The Grave of /indie/games awaits.

ded

jesus this general sure died fast. Is that pdf the comic ?

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>>173306269
other anons version because ded general

>tfw started when everyone else started
>tfw went too slow and now everyone's finished and there's no conversation and there never will be any more

>>173320982
I haven't finished. I mean, I did get to the end and beaten the Hollow Knight, but quit the game when Hornet pinned him down. I'm going for nothing less than 100%, and I'm only at 97% so far.

>>173321120
I haven't killed any of the dreamers

I'm a little slow ok

>>173321154
>>>173321120 (You)
>I haven't killed
Nor will you.

>>173321236
I ain't reading that shit nigga

I've had too much spoiled already.

In fairness I've been stuck on the CoF for a while.

>>173320982
>nothing left

Obsidiots still spam their shitty New Vegas threads on /v/ despite not having anything to talk about since the game was released. I see no reason Hollow Knight couldn't have more discussion.

>>173321506
We have a solid block of ded thred.

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How's this game doing in other countries?

>>173322521
It's big in China.

>>173322521
Plus, I'm willing to be most of us are American, British, German &c. -- not Australian.

Zote is Don Quixote

Discuss

>>173324187
Pretty sure a major plot element of Don Quixote is not getting the girl.

>>173324483
The point is that he invented the girl. Kinda like how Bretta invents you. Coincidence?

you're right we're dead

>>173320550
I prefer this one.

SO WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK OF HERRAH'S fuck it let's die

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Is this the end?

>>173334924
the only single player games that has long living generals are those with autistic fanbases like undertale or life is strange

>>173335689
The ones with intense waifu appeal, you mean.

Don't get me wrong, HK has waifus, but not in the same way Undertale does.

>>173335884
The only waifu's I see get shilled in regards to Undertale are Toriel and Muffet (maybe the green fire girl if you're lucky).
/fog/ and /tesg/ are single player generals that have lasted a long time, no reason why we shouldn't

>>173339320
Fallout and Elder Scrolls rely on huge amounts of mods and an extremely retarded userbase.

This is gonna be the last ever HKG isn't it

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>>173342596
maybe there is some grand return when the additional content comes out

I'm going to miss the bug butts

>9/10 game
>new
>excellent art, original setting
>general is empty

>life is strange/katawa shojo
>hardly qualify as games
>have had no new content for eons
>general #2156

fuck /vg/

whats the fastest you can get the dream nail without glitches? What do you need exactly to get to it?

>>173350654
I thought all you had to do was get to the Resting Grounds. So get to Crystal Peak and have walljump I guess.

>>173352241
So as soon as you get to Mantis Village, basically.

Can we get a list of boss dreamnail dialogue? I'm not good enough to get it...

>>173350552
#3293

>>173350552
>>173352765
Katawa Shoujo has closer to 5000. They lost count at some point and started over.
>>173352241
>>173352509
You can get Dream Nail as early as "finding Sly and buying the Lantern."
You'll have to farm your face off for Geo, but it's doable at 45 for each Husk Guard right before False Knight.
>Take the dark room entrance to Mines
>Just keep going right, can be done with no movement skills
>Jump into the pit at the far end
>Nail get

This has to be the most underrated gamer ever.

I've just come around to playing Shovel Knight, a game whose dick everybody rides for some reason, and it has got nothing on this.

What is happening?

>>173357503
Although I prefer Hollow Knight, Shovel Knight is better IMO. But you're right, this game is extremely underrated. It's not even unknown -- it's got a decent following -- but that's still isn't what it deserves. It's one of the best metroidvanias out there.

>what is happening?
You're watching the creation of a hidden gem.

>>173357503
Hollow Knight hasn't got enough advertisement.
Shovel Knight's kickstarter was more successful financially.

>>173361639
It got pretty big advertisement on GoG. It was the way I found out about it, at least.

>>173357503
I love em both but shovel knight has more going for it in terms of game design and widespread appeal

hollow knight would be 10/10 for me if the combat had a few more mechanics like a parry, block, and more enemy variety

(shell focus isn't a very good block)

>>173365586
It has parrying.

>>173365696
ah shit, you're right, I've only ever done it from the top though

does it negate front attacks too? or does most of the forward swinging wind up with the baddie's body in you doing contact damage?

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>>173359154
>Although I prefer Hollow Knight, Shovel Knight is better

>>173366237
Negates attacks. Although in some instances I've parried/done damage/been damaged all at the same time, and I'm not sure if that was intended (like Dark Souls' sort-of-failed parry) or not.
>>173366259
Shovel Knight is much tighter and much more concentrated. The mechanics are stitched into each other, the levels are stitched into the mechanics, and the story/aesthetic/atmosphere is stitched into both. It's an excellent game.

But, for purely immediate and irrational reasons, I prefer Hollow Knight's sprawl.

not gonna make it

good night

>>173350552
Hollow Knight has little to discuss after everyone's played the game.

No waifus like KS/LiS, no furry husbandos like Undertale, not much to keep discussion going.

Hopefully we reignite after the Hornet DLC comes out.

>>173368660
If we can survive this night, we'll live forever.

>>173361639
I sure didn't know about it until someone mentioned it to me

>>173366259
I like Hungry Knight

https://youtu.be/VVAiUAp_piI

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best waifu coming thru
she is literally pure

>>173377085

Pure Evil.

>>173375697
I didn't know about this. Pretty interesting. Looked it up now. Made by Team Cherry in 2013 for Ludum Dare 27 (by 3 people, 2 which are still in Team Cherry). I guess they really liked the style of the characters because they kept it almost identical in Hollow Knight. Also interesting is that they didn't mention this game anywhere on the Kickstarter or anwhere else.

It can be played on newgrounds.

>>173377085
>radiance
>she
where does is this stated?

>>173385351
It makes the abyss tentacles p lewd then

Going for the speedrun achievement since it was brought down to a lenient 5 hours. Should I get the Lumafly Lantern or the tram pass to get to Resting Grounds? Should I get the double jump, acid barrier and shade dash?

>>173392840
If you're just going for regular speedrun, just wing it two or three times and you'll get it.
Also, Tear into double jump since you get access to the Basin after beating Poop Praetorian.

The ending for this game feels weirdly unsatisfying. Like you and your ghostbros just disappear, and Hornet's just left wondering what the hell happened.Then you've got the mushroom stuff which seems like the dev's just fucking with you.

>>173393837
>Just wing it

Good point. I got 5:17 on a Steel Soul run since I get sidetracked (and lost) a lot in this game. I should be able to do it without trying next time

>>173394051
>Mushroom stuff
What?

The only part of the ending i found unsatisfying was the radiance its thematically pretty awesome and syncs up with your skills pretty well but he basically just floats around and spawns a bunch of attacks, i wanted your shadow bros to do more in the fight

>>173400242
There's a npc named Mr. Mushroom, the "Herald", who you can meet in 7 locations, in a certain order. He says a lot of vague cryptic stuff and then flies away. A post-credits scene is added to any ending you get, showing him flying around.

It seems like he aims to make fungi people take over the lands after the final battle.

>>173402498
Ah, i see. Pretty sure i've run into this guy near the mantis village but he spoke in a code. Didn't realise it went further than that but the idea of the world continuing fits the whole bug ecosystem / lore they've created, like how the bee's are independent of the bugs and have their own thing going. Pretty neat.

>>173402963
You need the Spore Shroom charm to talk to him. There's also a plaque hidden at Kingdom's Edge that lists his locations in a riddle (you also need the charm to read it).

>>173385351
Pretty sure one of the devs stated it on a stream

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Team Cherry is up on twitch right now with a guy speedrunning Steel Soul 100% going by graig1337

Hate how the story is just copy paste from Dark Souls but with bugs.

>>173385351
see
>>173405936
in one of the preview stream before release they dropped this info

>>173413243
Still better than Dark souls 2 an 3's

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>tfw all you want is to rule your cute moth children but random fag appears, take them away from you and lock you up

being the sun is suffering

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>>173300581
>play Hollow knight
>die, ragequit mid-animation because I'm a faggot
>calm down, get back on, all the geo I was saving up is fucking gone forever, no ghost to retrieve, fuck all
>ragequit and uninstall
fucking SHIT game not even worth pirating REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>173420314
thats what you get dumb frogposter

>>173421353
genuinely considering suicide anon
this game deserves being dead
fuck you reeeeeeEEEEEEEEe

>>173421552
falling for the suicide meme

>>173421617
jokes on you, I'll be with my waifu!

>>173421750
anyway, if you still have a broken soul holder, you can retrieve your "ghost" at the very right of dirthmouth after you open the door there

>>173421825
it's not broken, it's in one piece. I WAS gonna buy the simple key to open the lock on the right side of dirtmouth, but that shit just happened
I don't want to start over, and I don't want to keep playing, because this is bullshit

>>173421942
It would have been a waste anyway. You don't really NEED to buy anything, except for maps/doors/benches and the latern. You need charms that you find and movement skills.

>>173422114
it doesn't matter if it would've been a waste or not, it's that this game is bullshit and it deserves being buried in indie hell

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>>173422272

Fuck Radiance apologists and fuck "Hornet's a shadow monster" dipshits.

How do you shit up straightforward lore this badly?

>>173434128
>being this mad his little shitty fanfic got destroyed by common sense and he was pointed out inconsistency of his little shitty headcanon theories

poor precious baby discovered that there are other people in the world with different or may be even better opinions

EXTERMINATE REEE

>>173434128
>Any game with Dark Souls-style storytelling
>Straightforward

I don`t understand the Radiance thing, but Hornet discourse keeps these threads alive, so it can stay.

>>173434515
>shitty little fanfic
All I was saying was that Radiance reduced the bugs to their basic instincts before the king came.

Because, you know, the very first lines of the game tell you the king brought the bugs out of their base instincts, and all the zombies and shit are reduced to their base instincts, and before the king came around there were civilizations obviously not operating on just base instincts.

But sure, fanfic.

>>173435271
>All I was saying was that Radiance reduced the bugs to their basic instincts before the king came.
And that is not true, that's your interpretation of lore.

There is more evidence against it then towards. You are free to hold this opinion dear but it is not absolute truth in any way not should be.

>>173435634
>There is more evidence against it then towards
Such as?

What is the best charm combination?

>>173437121
quick slash - mark of pride - stalwart shell - whatever (probably compass and gathering swarm unless you're doing a boss)

>>173437305
>stalwart shell
You meant quick focus, right?

>>173437305
>stalwart
We Shovel Knight now

So are there different castes in Hollownest?

Husks-normal citizens
Sentries-knight protectors
Dandies-royalty, high class
Soul twisters-mages
Maggots-weak workers
Mosskin-some sort of subspecies
Mantises-warriors apparently
Bees-independents
Dirtcarvers- pests who were fighting the mantises
Mawleks-giant beasts

I'm trying to figure out what the mushroom guys are? And what are the jellyfish? What about the spiders and hoppers? What role do they play?

>>173402498
>playing for the plot
Look at this fucking pleb.

Sure, the plot might be very similar, but the themes explored are wildly different.
>>173417587
I want to bampa her nada.
>>173420314
Cheat it back in you fucking idiot, it takes like three seconds.
>>173437121
quick slash - mark of pride - longnail - whatever (probably compass and quick focus or some shit)

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>Get myself void heart
>mfw it's trades generating soul for no fight against your soul

What's the best charms to equip for the colosseum?

>>173431174
Who drew this?

>>173438350
The best charms are literally get good, unfortunately.

THe only thing thatn might help is that maxed nail + charged slash one shots the wasps/flies and is very helpful with the mages. So equip the fast charge if you want to pursue that strategy

>>173437909
Not everything is a caste.

Dandies aren't royalty, they're just dandies. They represent a failed attempt at genealogical hierarchy -- what amounts to feudalism.

Soul-twisters are more scholars and scientists than mages -- that's just a side-effect.

I don't get maggots. They're huge and yet they're weak, and they're IRL simply bug children -- and then there's False Knight. I don't get them. It doesn't help I've got a phobia of them.

Mantises are barbarians.

The rest (except bees, I haven't gone there yet) are just animals.

>>173442609
It's way easier to just hit them and git gud at hitting them.

Like gitting gud is the path of least resistance.

>>173409852
Why doesn't this guy fucking save his VoDs.

>>173444713
Bees just want to be left alone. The ghost bee says this.

Mantises are the weebs of hollowknight.

Traitor mantises are edgelords.

Spiders are worshippers of Herra or some shit.

Mosskin are just another species that live in Greenpath.

I have no idea what's up with the Mushroom people or the crystalized bugs in crystal peak. I'm also clueless on the hoppers in kingdom's Edge.

The worms in Royal waterways seem to be pests as well as the dirtcarvers.

Everything else is just animals.

>>173437909
The Mantes, Dirtcarvers, bees, mosskins, and probably mawleks aren't Hallownest citizens. Mantes maintain their independence under either the lords or the traitor lord, dirtcarvers aren't intelligent, bees are independent under their queen, mosskin are followers of Unn, and mawleks aren't intelligent.

Neither are the spiders, who worship their broodmother Herrah.

Mushrooms only became Hallownest citizens after the first resurgence of Radiance and they function as a single person outside of Radiance infected examples and Mr. Mushroom. It's a giant hivemind.

The castes are royal, 5 knights, noble/knight, commoner, and nonperson.

If you want to know what roles various tribes played in society, some are extrapolated upon like the known jellyfish being researchers, but most aren't.

>>173451632
The crystallized bugs are just miners that went obsessive after they were infected. I think the journal says that the big bugs that are mostly invincible were beasts of burden

>>173452135
Dirtcarvers and mawleks are pretty significant though. Dirtcarvers were being kept back from the mantises. Mawleks are the dragons of Hollownest.

>>173454754
Dragons are the dragons of Hollownest.

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>>173434128
>Radiance apologists

>dreamnail Willoh
what

>>173457693
Go up where she's eating

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>>173462838

I don`t think there`s been a single one of these comics I didn`t like.

What exactly is wrapping up a root gonna do? It`s not like she`s stopped growing.

>>173463256
2LEWD

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Everybody gets one, /hkg/.

>>173476994
elaborate

>>173477696
page 10


spider man is the patron saint of all insects.

>>173477830
Spiders aren't insects

>>173478832
The game as jellyfish, maggots, grubs, and snails, but the spiders are the weird part?

>>173417587
where is this from?

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My Steel Soul runs keep ending in City of Tears or Soul Sanctum. Any tips on what charms or upgrades I can get before fighting knights and wizards?

>>173486551
>Tears
You can skip almost every enemy here excluding the one mandatory fight to get to the Bench next to the Sanctum Breakable Wall.
You can get Double Jump before doing anything major here if you need it.

>>173486807
>You can skip
It's what's getting me killed, heh. I got surrounded by flying knights on the way up to the stag station then fell on some roof spikes. City of Tears has safety hazards

I didn't think you can get to Deepnest so early. Yeah, I think the double jump would help a lot.

Do you guys think they'll add more areas? I really want a fire/lava area.

>>173461058
That's not what I'm what-ing about.
>>173488792
If you're okay with gaming the system you can just quit whenever you're about to die and you'll respawn at your last bench.

>>173486551
tiso a cute

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>>173490547
There's picture of a couple of areas that aren't in the game. Considering they already made assets I think it's pretty likely it will come. It will probably come at the same time as playable Hornet. There's also kickstarter areas (designed by backers) which didn't make it into the game, so unless they make them they kind of scammed the backers.

Here's a picture from an old trailer.

>>173455494
worms are the dragons of hollownest

>>173479350
maggots and grubs are insects

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>>173437121
Patrician choice right here, spells op

>>173490547
There is some kind of hell dungeon with lava that has been shown around.

>>173505691
Wyrm = dragon

>>173505691
>>173509090
>being this uneducated what old english wyrm means

fatmerican education everyone

>>173511314
But that's what it means you stupid faggot.

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>>173511394
stop skipping school to play videgame

>>173511456
Not an argument motherfucker

https://horaro.org/esagermany/17

starts in 20 mins

>>173514631
This is a post which will pretend to say "it's cool that they're streaming this" but in reality is a bump.

How much essence do soul tyrant and failed champion give?

>>173519159
300 iirc

>>173519159
400

>>173511314
wyrm literally means worm, serpent, or dragon

the wyrm in the case of hollow knight is a worm of course, or more probably a larva

it being placed in a mythological role and being spelled in the old english is of course meant to evoke the idea of a dragon of course

Why does False Knight attack you?

>>173523474
Maggot was in initial stage of infection and it probably started to slowly manifest as him needed to prove anyone else he is now "braver than you all!" after he stole armor from Hegemol

>>173523474

He protects the maggots. He assumes you want to kill them. Similar to DD, really.

>>173523474
<entry name="FALSE_KNIGHT_D_1">I&#39;m braver than all of you!</entry>
<entry name="FALSE_KNIGHT_D_2">I&#39;m the strongest now!</entry>
<entry name="FALSE_KNIGHT_D_3">This great shell...It belongs to me!</entry>

>>173486807
>You can get Double Jump
I tried going for a different route to get this but ended up dying again.

I get the wall jump, go down to fight Mantis Lords to get to Deepnest, then I get the tram pass to get to Ancient Basin, but I don't have the super dash to get to the double jump. Even hopping over the spikes with down slash won't get me over there. So I went over to try to sequence break the King's Brand by hopping on Primal Aspids but died in the process.

worst speed runner

>>173524008
>I went over to try to sequence break the King's Brand by hopping on Primal Aspids but died in the process.
Aspids confirmed genocide material

>>173524397
Those things take like 10 hits from an unupgraded nail. They're rough

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get saved thread

>>173533263
;_;

>page 9 again
why even try to keep it going

wow there's a HK general?
first time to see this or maybe because i tried to dodge all /v/ hk threads before to avoid spoilers

>>173533263
As much of an asshole as he is I don't feel like he's the type you'd leave to die.

>>173537673
>there's a HK general?
Not for much longer.

Hungry Knight is so laggy wtf

>>173542461
he is very hungreh

>that thread about this on /v/

Disgusting

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Who is hornet VA?

>>173545069
Hornet is overrated and SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

Iselda is better

The singer in the pleasure house is better

Laughfu is better

That singing miner girl is better

Even Bretta is better

Motherfucking Salubra is better

Your waifu is shit and you have shit taste.

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Where are these niggers located after crossroads gets infested? Trying to fill out Hunters notes.

>>173545362
They don't change.

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>>173544437

>HK is derivative of dark souls because it features difficult platforming

>>173544437
>>173545687
What? But people are mostly shitting on Ori.

>>173545939

half the thread is shitting on ori, the other half is arguing over whether a 2D platformer metroidvania is a ripoff of dark souls, because dark souls invented everything.

>>173546165
But they're not really talking about HK at all, and when they do they're saying it's bad because it's too easy.

>>173544437
There's two threads, both extremely cancerous

>>173545362
The further right part of Crossroads

The big guy is top right
and these shield knights are middle right