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Lizards-Skaven and Friends Edition

>Warhammer II
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1st for united /twg/
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2nd for history and fantasy are both cool but fantasy is cooler
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Cygors are fun. I built an entire army of nothing but Cygore's and spent several battles just chucking rocks at people. This is probably not effective against anyone with a brain, but the Ai just runs in straight lines and loses 90% of their army.
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>>173093697
I'm with you my friend.
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>>173093881
sounds like the ai takes cygores for granite
got stuck between a rock and a hard place
those poor enemies hit rock bottom
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Guys, is this okay comp?
I never played Chaos before.
Should i just stick to chose and knights?
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>our homes are in ruin, we need to flee!
>gee, this place looks welcoming
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i miss van thunk, /twg/
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>Nagash still not announced
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>>173094006
It's a doggy dog world m8
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>>173094174
You could probably ditch two halberds for more chosen with great weapons
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The Warhammer world is actually one big Pangea with an Antarctica/Australia at the bottom?
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I regularly get 200+ kills on all my wizards with decent vortex spells in vanilla.

In sieges it can go way higher. It's not about getting lucky it's about learning to make use of magic.

It's also way better than Franz on dealthclaw if you build around it because getting 150 or more kills out of a single vortex spell causes routes like nothing Franz can do, especially if you combo multiple spells/ active abilities.

>Also how does steel faith make the game easy?
Makes economy easier, buffs units in ways they don't need, makes magic OP, makes chaos campaigns trivial.

>they have the same access to wizards.
they can't use them though. I have never been hit by a single vortex spell in Total War warhammer, the AI nearly always uses the point & click spells. OP magic is a huge + for the player compared to AI.
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>>173094178
To be fair, Vlad is actually supposed to be one of the nicer Vampires out there.
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wind spells > vortex spells
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>>173094178
Still better than beastmen or orcs.
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Accidentally saved over my Savoy game, so I decided to start a new one as Westphalia. Less than 20 turns in and the campaign is already fucked
>start out building an army to invade low countries for sea access,income, and barracks/artillery
>France declares war on me around turn 10, take alsace lorraine and peace out offering money, they counter offer with a trade agreement and peace so I accept
>around turn 15, ready to invade when Prussia offers me a trade agreement, accept and next turn Prussia declares war on me.
>hadn't bothered to look east of Hanover, do so and find that Prussia is down to just Dresden and Konigsburg, rest had been taken by Austrians.
>decide to delay low countries invasion to take Dreseden, and while I'm attacking Dresden Hannover declares war on Austria and takes Berlin from them. PLC and Ottomemes gangbang Austria so now they're down to like 3 provinces.
To no surprise, Hanover, Italian States, and Bavaria are all fucking Dagestan protectorates. I also really like the Westphalia infantry, they have pretty nice uniforms and stats.
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G O B L I N S
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>>173094630
what a clusterfuck
looks fun
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>>173094539
What's going on with Vlad's left hand?
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>>173094483
Fine, I'll just play vanilla with better AI recruitment so I don't become a shitter used to super gelt.
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>>173094006
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What`s the best total war game for making mostly bow-using armies?
My boner for bows knowns no limits
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>>173094006
Ha
Fuck you
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>>173094885
Elves in Warhammer are my first thought.
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>>173094885
Horsefuckers such as Huns
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>>173094938
>not playing Malagor for extra Cygor summon
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I just had a slave uprising in Rome II. It caused a full, experienced stack to show up on my doorstep. What triggers this and how is it different from regular rebels?
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>Cleansing the Norsemen as VC
>Every battle is my melee blob against their blob while micro'ing against the most annoying shit in the game (skirmish horse archers and stacks of 8 armored chariots PLEASE FUCK OFF)
>At the end of every battle heal back up to full so I can keep going
>If I autoresolve I just lose
>Have fought like 20 stacks of norsemen this way

Please kill me. I just want to make these fuckers go away so I can go get my long victory in peace.
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>>173096002
i dunno, maybe slaves
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>>173096110
I took about 400 slaves and now a 2500 man stack including horsemen shows up?
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>>173096240
Maybe they had friends.
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>>173096062
Forgot my pic
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>>173096307
I killed all their friends!
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>>173096368
Obviously some were away on an errand when you rolled through. Or those 400 incited other slaves that were in the area, maybe you should make an edict forbidding the ancient practice of teaching slaves combat related horsemanship.
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>>173096062
>>173096338
>norsca chariot spam
>mfw

MOD TO REMOVE CHARIOTS WHEN
FUCK CHARIOTS
THEY'RE NOT EVEN USEFUL FOR THE AI
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>>173096632
Fuck it, I'm killing everybody now.
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Wurrzag is actually pretty fun
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>>173093621
I want to be dogberts best friend
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>>173097423

The first few turns can be a little rough on legendary but after that he just steamrolls ,

the bonuses he gives to his discount Orcs is nuts,
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>>173096827
How do you even use chariots in a snow-covered tundra and forest landscape?
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>>173097692
I'll have to try legendary next, I'm doing very hard now
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is the warhammer world round?
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>spend all your life in a comfy mountain basement fighting and getting drunk
>occasionally sortie out remove green kebab
>fucking AXES

I know they're babby tier ezmode but gdamn I love me some midgets

probably from LotR growing up, the Mines of Moria was always my favorite spoopy sequence and was always a bit sad at those huge, empty mountian fortresses
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>>173097858
it's round and flat, just like ours
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This fucking house saved my ass

Also killed off a lot of soldiers so I can reduce my expenses :)
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>>173098049

forgot pics

>>173097828

if you aren't pausing battles its basically the same thing, with -4 more PO
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>>173097858
Obviously it's flat. It's a tabletop
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Is the army loss penalty for morale fair?

It does make things a lot quicker, and guarantees a rout rather than dragging out a battle - especially with armies where units are more likely to return to the fight at a decent morale level - but it can also be incredibly frustrating to have to throw away any chance of victory due to losses, even when most of your army was still ready to fight.
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>>173098050
If the Warhammer world is like ours, then how do those comets get through the firmament?
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>>173098773

I think it was a good move.

Armies fighting to the death, or near enough, really never happened.

If you are using 'fair' as a way to say 'I don't like it', I'm sure there is a mod
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>>173098773
It seems like it doesn't trigger until like half of your forces get krumped.

They could make it so units with the "expendable" trait count less to the penalty but I like it as is.
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You are a hunter hunting innawood. Suddenly, you get caught in a three way battle between beastmen, orc abd vampire. There is no escape. Who would you surrender to?
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You are a Skink laborer in Hexoatl. You have been working for two decades in construction, sometimes using a chisel and hammer to carve reliefs, sometimes directing Kroxigor to split and set stone, sometimes setting up scaffolds, sometimes working in the quarries and mines with the rest of your local barrio of Skinks.

It's a tough life where you have to be on your toes - construction can be very dangerous. You go to the community warehouse after your shift where you get what you need. You sometimes need some tequila, you sometimes need some cocah leaf extract, you sometimes need caffee beans. You spend a lot of time with the Skinks in the barrio, but you've also gone over to the hunters, the artisans and the scribes to talk about stuff and life, and wonder a bit about the Slann Mages and the Old Ones, and when they'll be active again.

You enjoy life.

And then Chaos invades and you're in the middle of a construction gang that's plugging up holes in the outer wall while Saurus cohorts and Chaos marauder/beastmen try to force each other away from the breach while you plug the hole and direct the Kroxigor with the big blocks and tell him to drop it on the enemies and then drop it in the breach but you yourself are dodging blows and arrows and chaos magic bullshit and are wildly flailing in self defense at a bunch of fuck huge warmbloods (relative to you) that want to kill you and sacrifice your soul to the gods of Chaos. The mayhem is tangible. There's a lot of screaming, roaring, chanting and noise. There's a horrible smell everywhere.

You've never thought of yourself as a mighty warrior, or even particularly warlike, but you'd like you think of yourself as inured to some horror.

This is too much. You are sick and tired and just want it all to stop.

When it does stop and the horde is vanquished, you look on the city interior and see lots of destroyed buildings, many of them you proudly worked on.

Half your labor barrio died in combat.
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>>173093970
>Makes economy easier,
actually?
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How do I not suck utter cock at the knife-eared tree-cucks?

Lost King's Glade to Khazrak and his starting beast buddy on turn 8 while I was off fucking up the Broken Nose fuckers and it's so ridiculously expensive to take it back that I'll have to wait 90+ turns to get it back with my income of a whole 42 gold per turn.

Obviously, I have every intention of restarting, but this is just a snippet of the shit that seems to go wrong when I play Wood Elves. I never seem to have these problems when playing other factions, even on harder difficulties, but I always seem to get completely shrekt as Wood Elves despite generally going for a ranged focus (if possible) with my armies anyway.
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>>173099249
This is a no-brainer. Only the vamps give you a chance at all. The other alternative is shooting an arrow perfectly straight up and telling them to go fuck themselves as it comes back down and hits you in the head.
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>>173099316
Then some humie with a funny hat walks up to you, points at the broken gold statue on the ground and asks "how much?"
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>>173100231
This. The downside with vamps is they might torture you, but it's vastly more likely they'll just kill you, with a tiny slice of maybe you're interesting enough to become a vampire or serve them in some way.

Other two will both kill you, only question is how quickly.
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>>173099249

Seppuku
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>>173100150
Get at least both defensive buildings before you head out. Once you have both your starting garrison will be good enough to handle any beastshit that comes your way throughout the early to mid game.

>>173099249
>Who would you surrender to?

The winner?

Or if I somehow get to pick who I side with, the Vampires. Their response can vary anywhere from just eating me to saying "what the fuck is a civvie doing out here, gtfo," all which are equally bad or better than what the other two would offer.
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Did i do good bros?
I was siegeing without any siege contraptions save for few Hellcannons.

no bully pls
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Archaon calls a grand Chaos crusade on Middenheim, but it is a simple matter to sneak-skulk right through Empire lands. Unfortunately, we arrive a turn too late, and a full army of Slaanesh worshipers has already been beaten off (which I don't doubt they enjoyed) by the man-things.
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>>173101013
Time is short, I will destroy one manling army and then turn to the other. They have many weak archers.
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>>173101013
>>173101296
sometimes i really miss the huge variety of units this mod has compared to TWW
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>>173101296
kill kill
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>>173101296
Charge! Yes! We will sweep them from the field, but...
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>>173101296
>manling

Closet Dwarf-thing detected
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>>173101546
They flee at a surprising speed! We must soon-catch, or the plan will be spoilt.
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>>173101904
Aaiigh! One army approaches, the other retreats. I form up most of my force to meet the newcomers. Let the man-thing archers run all they want from slave-bands.
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>>173101621
I imagine there's a few dwarf furries out there that get off to the shame of it all.
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>>173102164
Hidden gunners begin making short work of their knight-men.
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>>173102376
The battle seems somewhat evenly matched: this is most troubling.
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>>173102506
With a few expertly placed rear-charges by my Doomflayers, the man-thing army soon crumbles
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>>173102740
Victory! For Horned-Rat!
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>>173102902
don't bully man-things!
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>>173094458
Yes, but in practice nobody is walking through the Chaos Wastes given that they might as well be another dimension.
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Gaunt's Ghosts open world, survival, crafting, base building FPS when
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>>173103513
Wrong thread, also service in the Imperial Guard does not allow room for open world.
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>>173097817
You forgot all the mountains, Norsca is crazy mountainous. I think it probably makes sense for the Warriors of Chaos proper to use chariots given that the Chaos Wastes are pretty open, terrain-wise, when Chaos fuckery like the ground suddenly swallowing you up isn't going on, and given that Norsca is just "low-tier" WoC units that's probably why they got chariots, not for any other particularly good reason.
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Stronghold style Karak builder game when
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>>173097692
One of the things I dislike about Wurrzag is that he doesn't have access to a Lord comparable to the Night Goblin Warboss that specifically give buffs to Savage Orc Units, and he doesn't give the discount to Savage Orcs to his whole faction like Skarsnik does for Goblins. Other than that, I really like Wurrzag, he's a lot of fun.
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>>173103513
>open world, survival, crafting, base building
you forgot early access :^)
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I asked about Chaos campaign mods last thread, found one that might be what I'm looking for:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=890292457&searchtext=chaos

Anyone try this out yet, especially in conjunction with the T4 minor settlements? Compatibility is apparently wonky with mods that "affect building chains", not sure if T4 counts.

[/spoiler]I don't have the game just yet, otherwise I'd have tested it myself.
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>>173104069
I tried it, and it's decent. Raze and Revel is also good if you want something even lighter-weight that just keeps the game moving along more quickly.
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>>173104069
>I don't have the game just yet, otherwise I'd have tested it myself.
did you opt for physical delivery? lolling @ you're life, physical media nerd
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>>173104274
May start with just R&R first, then go full overhaul if I feel it isn't enough. Thanks for the input.

>>173104339
Just haven't bought it on Steam yet, you double nerd; trying to get through a bit of my backlog before I dive headfirst into this.
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>>173104557
>you double nerd
what the FUCK bro
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>>173093697
cheers pal!
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>Getting bored of warham
>Try steel faith
>Makes gelt OP so it's fun for a few fights but I get kind of bored fast
>Try vanilla except with the better AI recruitment mod
>Get the spiciness I'm looking for, game is fun again and fights are harder, enemies actually fielding decent units.
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>>173105273
The guy has a few other mods you might like, like agent limiter so that you don't have to deal with too many agents making end turns go slow as they all slowly approach you and take their actions, and also an AI improvement mod so that Greenskins have a better chance of winning the Badlands Bowl and making it so that the AI doesn't retardedly focus only on attacking you, letting other AI factions destroy them.
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>>173093697
Despite this, we are easily the best general
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>>173093697
As a fan of history and warhammer, this pleases me.
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>>173105463
That's a pretty high bar. NOT!!!
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THE EMPIRE _______!
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>>173105273
>better AI recruitment mod
this one?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761596200
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*clicks on friendly army*
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>>173105875
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761596200

Yes, already a distinct lack of shit armies and I'm only on turn 30 in an empire campaign.

Saw an orc horde spawn with two giants a turn ago.
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>>173105726
LOVES ZE LADY
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>>173106056
nice.
Gonna give it a try.
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>>173105934
Ging of da Goourrs :--DDD
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>>173105934
prostagma
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>>173105934
MY SULTAN WISHES YOU DEAD
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Man playing as the greeks is an assault on my ears during a fight
>HOPLITES
>HOPLITES
>HOPLITES
>HOPLITES
>HOPLITE MILITIA
>MEN OF SPARTA
>HOPLITES
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>>173106974
That's not very friendly!
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>>173106462
By The Gomet :-DDDDDDDD
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>>173107019
>not HOPLITAIHAPLOI
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>>173094006
By Sigmar NO
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>>173107060
Sorry.
YALLAH MY SULTAN WISHES YOU DEAD
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>city besieged by 3 norscan stacks
>aw shit nigga here we go
>towers and missile units start pounding the northscum
>siege towers and ram inching forward
>FOR SIGMA-
>crashes
FUG DDDDDD:
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>>173108915
kekaroo
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For fucks sake, Von Man-Baby got wiped out by turn 13 by Sirland.
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>>173109145
BALLS OF STEEL
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>>173108927

I love it when Norscan armies get the balls to siege your cities. Usually has about 5000 angry Norscans trying to storm your walls while you slaughter them with your garrison units/towers.
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COME
SIT
FUCK MY WIFE
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>>173109059
>Leaked Attack on Titan season 2 footage
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A quiet Wednesday
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>>173106706
aw shit that brings back memories
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>>173093697
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>>173110674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A17oUv0E-N4
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>>173094174
I would ditch some halberds for some monstrous units myself. Maybe even poison warhounds for pestering back line.
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>>173110798
My god those sound effects.
>400kg minotaur headbutts a man 20 feet away
>foley guys flicks some play-dough
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>>173111007
Them's was the days.
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How are the races aligned?

Evil:
>Warriors of Chaos
>Daemons of Chaos
>Beastmen
>Vamps
>Tomb Kangs
>Chaos Dwarfs
>Skaven
>D Elves

Good:
>Lizardmen
>Dwarfs
>Empire
>Bretonnians
>H Elves

Neutral:
>Orcs
>Ogres
>W Elves
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>>173111098
Evil:
>Everyone in some way
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>>173111007
I remember when I thought that CGI was super impressive

though I still love the moment when zeus just power ups all the guys
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>>173111170
I remember when I was a little lad and my dad built me a brand spanking new computer with a cutting fucking edge 6600GT and I thought to myself "how am I gonna test all this power?"

So I booted up this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqc1bvPuleo and told my dad to watch on my brand spanking new 1280x1080 monitor.

What a time.
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someone find this underage faggot and kill him for me please
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I just confederated Vlad after his part of Sylvania was conquered by Averland - what few forces left were eager to join me.

But if he dies, will I lose him forever? Right now he's stuck in Averland territory, in the mountain pass leading to the Border Princes. I'm not sure I'll be able to get him and his tiny army back to enemy lines in time, even with the Marching stance.
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>>173111098
evil
>everyone on chaos, including beastmen
>skaven

want to save the world for everyone
>high elves
>karl franz and based gelt
>Thogrim Grudgebearer (I think? Pretty sure he's the only dwarf that sees the big picture)

want to save the world but also don't give a fuck about the other races
>lizards

wants to save own race
>dwarves
>empire
>bretonnians

Assholes in general, but don't really want to blow up the world
>dark elves
>wood elves
>goblins

Your notions of morality do not apply
>orcs (they just want to fight)
>Ogres (they're just really hungry all the time)
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>>173111428
Oh fuck ground control
that game was pretty fun

though as a kid i could never beat it
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So I returned to the Shogun 2 and the first thing I immediately noticed is so how the fucking GOOD soundtrack is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwJ1EpxiWb4

Just one of the examples. Immediately sets the right mood for battle. It's somehow even better in FoTS. Like, fuck me, why the fuck CA decided to not use Jeff Van Dyck anymore. The only remotely fun track in Warhammer is Danse Macabre.
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>>173111634
Where's the undead?
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>>173112003
woops

in the

>Assholes in general, but don't really want to blow up the world

when the world is about to blow up the undead team up with the living vs chaos
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>>173111827
Is it wrong that I want a for honor style fake historical game with samurai vs other stuff that isn't samurai?

I love shogun 2 but the fact that the entire game is ashigaru bashdown is just disheartening.
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Mentioned in one sentence on page 69 of Glottkin. The Craterblades of Talabheim apparently fucked up some K'daii and a Sorcerer Prophet awhile back earning them some street cred. As a result, we know they're at least still canon as having ever existed at all.
The Chaos Dwarves breached the Great Bastion of Cathay and had been destroying it along with the Hung marauders and Skaven. They turn portions of it into a fortress that allows them to raid into Cathay without any resistance. They conquer most of the northern provinces before the dragon emperor starts pushing them back. The Fortress at the bastion is destroyed by Grimgor and the hobgoblins and the chaos held territories are taken over by orcs.
Grimgor sacked the Dark Lands and most of the Chaos Dwarfs holdings, as revenge for his time as a slave under their cruel lash. He and the ogres free most of the slaves, topple the cities, and win over the loyalty of the dark land tribes. Grimgor, Golgfag and an army of Grimgor's trusted advisers cast down the statue of Hashut and raze Zhar-Naggrund to the ground, squatting the Chaos Dwarfs.
Hashut finally meets his match when he faces both Gork and Mork at the same time. He is defeated before the final battle, stripping the sorcerers of their power.
When Chaos destroys the world, it is mentioned that many champions of Chaos were uplifted to Daemonhood. This may include some Chaos Dwarfs, however, consider most of them have been wiped out by the greenskins.
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>>173111827
Yeah, the soundtrack is god tier in that game. Pretty great game overall too, despite the flaws it has.

>>173112165
Not at all. In terms of a Total War type game, I think the closest we have to that is that Thera mod for Medieval 2.
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>>173111428
Thanks for the nostalgia surge, I have to download GC2 and play it again now
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>>173111827
Danse Macabre is overrated. Both of these VC tracks are superior:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLFNOlDqJ2M&t=4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk_ft5y1ZZs

And because of how the idiot formatted this one it takes half the video before the actual track plays, but when it gets going it's also great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOgSLNLXEVU
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>>173112780
That's probably one of the reasons why I find Vampire Cunts so fun to fight against. Battles against them always have huge numbers, last pretty long and got a nice OST to boot.
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>>173112579
Give GC1 a go with the mod to fix resolutions
Still a great, great game
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Why are Parthia cunts in every fucking game?
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>>173111530
Infanticide is pretty bad bro
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>>173109394

>Take Norrland
>Proceed to fortify the shit out of it
>Norse shits come to siege the port town
>Have a captain around for public order
>He goes on anal rampages in the norse camp
>By the time they have enough siege weps they have lost 60% of their army
>They run away with their tail between their legs

Which leaves that retarded wooded corridor to cover with an army, and the wastelands outside of Gorssel until I can get a landing party to burn their coast I know norse shits dont have to deal with public order, but are they affected by growth? I was wondering if I could leave a warrior priest up there with -negative growth and let him keep them in the bronze age.
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>>173111634
>>173111098
Chaos:
Chaos guys

Not Chaos:
Not chaos guys

Hungry:
Ogres
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To the anon who was asking in an older thread. Finding the audio soundtracks will probably make you want to kill yourself. Nothing is labeled at all and each one needs to be converted to an ogg file before you can actually even begin to listen to it. Which wouldn't be too bad if there weren't thousands of them.
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>>173114934
Aren't they concrypted with advanced techniques?
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>>173114847
And halflings
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>>173111634
Professional lorefag here. lizards care about other races, but only insofar as the Great Plan cares about the other races.
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>>173099316
MEANWHILE AS A BRETONNIAN PEASANT
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>>173099249
Whos leading the orcs?
What kind of vampire lord?
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So we all know that rats sooner or later will become part of the game. And one of their main things, is a fucking huge underground Under-Empire that goes literally everywhere, even as far as connecting the separate continents.

How will CA go around it? Don't tell me that it's just going to be another variation of tunnel movement system.

On another hand, I really have a hard time imagining CA actually making a second "under layer" for grand campaign, because frankly, it sounds like a huge pain in the ass to implement. Hell, it most likely will be a huge performance hog. I already have some doubts about their united "Vortex" map.

The only game that comes to mind, is Heroes of the Might and Magic series, especially the fifth one (because it's 3D). That's pretty much a good implementation of two-layer strategy map system. Maybe there are more games like that that I'm not aware of.

Well... In the end, I think we will probably get an ol' tunnel movement system with Rat cities being hidden under some major settlements and you will need to do something first to locate them and then send an expedition to successfully raid/siege it.

Any thoughts?
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>>173111098
Tomb kings in good guys please
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>>173115846
Age of wonders does it and it works just fine
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>>173115846
They won't do a two-level campaign map, I'll bet money on that.
I think they'll probably do something akin to the railway system from Shogun 2 where you park your Rat Army on a Rat Settlement, and you can fast move them to another Rat Settlement in very few turns.
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can someone explain the pontus meme to me please?
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Which wizard lores of the empire is best? Gelts Metal goes from shit tier to beyond godlike buff/debuff with strong vortex spell.

But what about the others? I thought fire was pretty cool.
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>>173116334
Whoever you think is dressed best is the better wizard.
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>>173116334
Shadows has Pit of Shades and Penumbral Pendulum, both look great
Pit of Shades does heinous damage in the right circumstances
It also has Withering which does a massive debuff
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>>173110798
i want to fuck that athena
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>>173116309
lurk moar newfag
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>>173105463
What about Stalker General?
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>>173115449
snacks?
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>>173116334
I really like Light wizards. Net of Amyntok is sooo fucking good. I love to use it with the lines of handgunners who just have a time of their life freely shooting at stationary targets.

Their buffs is also alright.
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>>173116334
lore of healing and lore of net are best
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why dont greenskins have choppy orc heroes?
Goblin heroes are just cannonfodder
wizard orcs are still just wizards
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>>173116769
Literally have no idea.
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>>173116769
literally no real reason
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>>173116516
the problem is i dont know how it started.
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>2 point of chaos corruption vs 7 anti-corruption
>somehow equals to 22% corrupted and thus -5 to public order
>minus fucking five

I hate this method of calculating corruption/religion.
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>>173116769
Huh, really made me think
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>>173116961
People anticipated Seleucid empire is going to one of the playable factions. Instead they got Pontus. People got mad. Memes were born.
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>>173117018
Always wondered about this, how does it even work?
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>>173111827
people can talk shit about thunka all they want, but it is 100% superior to what we have now

this will always be my favorite total war track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6EIv9GULJU
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>>173117079
thanks

on another not im starting a new empire campaign and its my first legendary difficulty start. any tips?
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>>173117153
I don't know how to explain well, it's math
something like corruption and anti-corruption are both considered part of a full 100%

thus as long as there is at least 1 chaos corruption, even if you have a billion anti corruption you're still never gonna have 0% chaos corruption
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>>173117153
My understanding is that it's a ratio. Say you have two parts corruption and eight parts anti corruption, meaning you have a total of ten parts. It would drift slowly to 20% corruption, as 2/10 is twenty percent.
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>>173117283
So its basically like cultural influence from previous games?
Although i like corruption more since it has an actual visual impact on the area around you.
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>>173117153
say there is 1 corruption and 9 anti corruption, you are going to have 10% corruption, its kinda hard to explain but the logic is simple, i.e. if there is no anticorruption, than even 1 point will eventually lead to 100% corruption
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>>173116656
>>173116665

Net is pretty rad, you're right about that. I had my artillery get 500 kills a peice after netting a T H I C C bunch of vampire cunts together.

What makes the jade lore great?

I was kinda like lore of heavens strictly for that curse of the midnight. Rekts the enemies ability to fight while its on them and you can chain it with two points in it. Thunderbolt is shit, and the disrupt is mostly shit too. Thunderbolt might be decent if he had a pegasus so he could ride to the backline and hit the artillery.
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>tfw you'll never PRAISE SIGMAR and have your prayers answered
>never stab a reddit rat
>never drink a frosty mug of Bugmans XXXXXX
>never hold hands with a qt elf
>never shoot a reddit rat
>never be accepted into the colleges of magic
>never go on an adventure with a slayer dwarf
>never blow up mutiple reddit rats
>never fight for the god king emperor of nippon like in my japanese animes

WHY
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>>173117175

>Push on fast and hard to secure Reikland
>Beastmemes attack helmgart by turn 10 latest
>Marienburg is a gamble on legendary
>Still gotta burn down the skullsmasherz home before anything else
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>>173117508
Jade lore has Earth Blood. Presumably it has other spells, some of which might even be good, but I wouldn't know on account of using all my magic on Earth Blood.
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>>173117368
>implying religious/cultural influence doesn't have a visual impact
just look at christian lands compared to muslim lands in M2, one is a verdant paradise and the other is a desert wasteland :^)
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>>173117696
hue
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>>173117551
Because you are a peasant of Bretonnia, and you will die as such.
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>Turn 64
>Pushing through Norsca with my "Remove Varg" crusade
>suddenly Kraka Drak encountered
>mfw
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>>173117618
Thanks anon
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>>173118075

Stop killing Varg.
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I'll pay CA just to see a trailer video tomorrow
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what is the best book/series to start with for wahrammer
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>>173117689
I personally find the Shield of Thorns very useful - it's meant to be used defensively, but it can really add to an offensive.
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>>173118853

Armybooks or the Slayer series
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>>173118853
Tales of the Old World. Good short story anthology, gets you at least a glimpse at most factions, and a lot of looks at the Empire, Bretonnia, and Chaos. Some stories are absolutely wonderful, and most are at least okay for a read once.
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>>173093621
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>blind to justice
>-2 to ALL provinces

I have a literal -8 to all provinces due to 4 generals with the blind to justice trait

MINUS FUCKING EIGHT
WHAT THE FUCK
WHY THE FUCK IS THE ONE GODDAMN GENERAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD SOMEHOW MAKES EVERY SINGLE PROVINCE MORE LIKELY TO REBEL
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>>173118941
>>173119274
where to find these online?
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>>173119693
because he's blind to justice
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>>173119693
>Being blind to justice
What are you, a liberal?
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>>173119693
first of all, I am pretty sure it doesn't stack, secondly stop executing captives you fuck
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>>173121260
>it doesn't stack
I fucking wish

I only noticed this bullshit when checking why the fuck was my province rebelling despite two fucking taverns
and I was getting -8 from characters despite nobody being there.

So I checked my generals, and found 4 of them had blind to justice

>stop executing captives you fuck
>playing as dwarves
>not executing orcs
not only is the idea itself dumb, I also get a -replenishment when I release captives as dorfs
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>>173093697
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>>173106974
>>173108718

IMSHI INFIDEL
OR FACE
THE MIGHT
OF ISLAM
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The Huns are pretty nice guys
I think they're just misunderstood
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>>173121408
>not only is the idea itself dumb
then enjoy your blind to justice generals
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so I am playing as brettonia with a shitload of orc buff mods, most importantly the one that nearly doubles the unit size of all orc armies, so black orcs are 160 per unit, giants and arachnaroks are 2 per unit, gobbos are 300 per unit and etc

how do I win the errantry war battle on legendary? I am thinking of grinding 17 paladins to max level and then getting the green knight and a life wizard and trying to cheese it that way, but the leveling progress is so slow its killing me
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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>173122881
Just Praise The Lady Bro
You need ranged units to deal with big units in reasonable time don't you?
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>>173122908
I want to impregnate witch elf!
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>>173123087
using ranged units will be absolutely retarded as they will run out of ammo, very quickly if they try to kill big'uns that have 200 men per unit, and then they are dead wait

brettonian peasants are not waywatchers that can fight competently in melee, my army has to be fully melee, possible even something cheesy like all fliers, or all paladins or something like that

>>173123108
looks awful, like a tranny
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>>173123108
Blood Bowl has the best Witch Elves
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So does orks ever chill? Do they have homes they sit back and be like
''Yo Gorknar, fuck those umies''
''You said it best Morknar''
Or is it just warfare every day? This question also applies to beastmen and chaos
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>>173123943
I am curious about this as well and I also would like to know how the fuck they are mushrooms.
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>>173123980
the whole "fungus" thing is stupid
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>>173123943
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Orcs_%26_Goblins
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>>173123980
>spend too long fucking about on the badlands chasing grimgor on very hard
>finally finish off the badlandsbowl and start paying attention to the empire lands
>see this

wow since when are the chaosfags competent?
>demolished kislev and 90% of the empire
>razed altdorf

Actually, there has been some epic fucking battles happening without me
that mass of blue flags on reikland is bretonnia+wood elves+empire after managing to repel the massive 5 stack chaos warrior offensive
Vlad and mannfred put aside their differences, allied, and got their shit kicked in by Kholek suneater+sigvald

And this whole time the chaos AI just left me alone
didn't even go for my mostly defenseless holds in the north
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>>173123943
Orcs have the standard Orcish society, if they aren't at war, they're preparing for war.

Scuffles obviously break out, and often but Orcs still take time to maintain arms and armor, or bully a Goblin into doing it for them. Orcs respect and listen to strength, if Grimgor Ironhide tells you to build a watchtower, you better fucking do it.
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>>173124105
read skarsnik novel, people tend to say the fungus thing is just warhammer 40 k, but in Skarsnik novel is stated that they are fucking fungus, end of discussion


Skarsnik is born in a fetus deep in the ground of a cave. and his first name is caverunt

When an orc, goblin, squig or snotling die, they release spores, weeks ahead several greenskin like lifeform is growing under the ground.

They create a full ecosystem of fungus creatures. They are coded to feel the urge of live, fight, kill and so on. Also they are connected to a psychic network called WAAAGH! so when a lot of them are excited their shamans gain a fuckton of power
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>>173124717
Novel =/= lore
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>>173124918
Blood Bowl =/= Warhammer Fantasy.
They have spores in armybook and core rulebook.
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>>173099249
>surrender
>implying
VICTORY or DEATH
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>>173124717
>>173124918
>>173124105


also one of the things I love about warhammer orcs are they are innovative, (((((((((((((((((neutral))))))))))))))))))))) and cool, the fungus thing, the genderless shit, their lifespan, the Waaagh, their gods, everything.

And I Mean innovative in a good way, not in a way we dindunuffing we are good , look at my hot orc females that WOW did.
you can be an human, you can be fighting Chaos, you can be losing, there is no hope for you, but don't worry, ORCS always will be there to kick these chaos shits asses.
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>>173118075
Oh shit, finance those hardcore midgets.
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>>173093621
Do we know what the old friend is yet? I've been away from twg since Bretonnia or so. Nice trailer for 2 though. Based lizards.

I take it we have already decided the Slann is /ourguy/?
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>>173123385
I need additional proof of this before I come to a conslusion.
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TWW2 advisor leaked
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>>173124918
Sorry to break it to ya bud, but 1st ed warham and Blood Bowl in general have no bearing on current canon
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>>173123385
I have never had this before but for the first time in my life I have a complete all consuming lust for a fictional character.

>I fucking love Witch Elves
And I really really don't know why.

>Tfw gf + ozone melting amounts of hairspray could pull this off.

How do I...how do I even begin to explain this one to her?
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>>173123943
they are made up creatures that dont exist so they dont have day to day lives
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>>173123980
The Greenskins are space fungi first brought to the world by accident by the Old Ones aboard their starships
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>>173125887
But I don't want a crow advisor
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Alright ja gitz, this one for you laddies
https://youtu.be/CwRGX_K0jhQ enjoy!
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>>173125934
So you're saying this could wipe out the entire Greenskin race?
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>>173125968
>Cosplay = adults playing dressups
>Women = overgrown children
Shouldn't be hard to get her into it anon
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>>173126047
I don't think their exists enough fungicide in the world to deal with the Orc problem.
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>>173126047
Fungus like =/= regular fungus.
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>>173123943
Orcs dont really do much chilling but there are feasts n shit thrown every now and again
They just have this need to fight built into them so if there are no others to fight they fight eachother
They mostly live in camps they build while on campaigns but they occupy conquered cities as well, partying while they're at it
Beastmen are basically animals so they just roam around in the wild when they're not at war
chaos.. well there's the norsemen who hang around in the.. north. They do viking stuff. Whaling, fishing, fighting eachother, raiding the shores down south etc.
What Archaon has going on is just a bit fuckoff doomstack that is intent on killing shit so when they aren't fighting they are hanging around their campsites preparing to fight
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>>173111428
>>173110798
holy shit you guys I can't handle this...
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>>173111634
you forgot vampies in assholes
lizards do care about other races just not the ones that werent on the old one's to do list
why do people keep separating orcs from goblins
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>>173093621
I understand most of the militant anti-fantasy posters are just rabble rousers and probably aren't partial to either genre of Total War, but shouldn't actual History fans be overjoyed for Fantasy's success and production?
>1) A more successful fantasy franchise means more money for CA, more money for CA means better funding for developer teams and more/better historical titles
>2) Warhammer Fantasy Battles is steeped in European history, to the point where they just outright steal names and places and events.

I find it very enjoyable from the perspective of a History teacher at a High School I'm all for TW:W2!

It's just so disheartening to see relatively big Total War youtubers like PixelatedApollo begrudge the game or be angered at it's development.
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>>173126412
goblins are sneaky cowardly cunts
orcs just want to fight shit
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>>173126463
i literally couldn't give two shits about if historyfags like warhammer are not.
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>>173126034
>that dwarf cannon fortress
Things that never happened.sadness

Why the fuck cant we mount cannons
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>>173125968
You are just into bdsm friendo.
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>>173126325
Then you're gonna love this
halome
.nu/
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>>173126463
>A more successful fantasy franchise means more money for CA, more money for CA means better funding for developer teams and more/better historical titles

you poor naive soul

more money for CA = confirmation that their jew tactics work = more jew tactics for years to come
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>>173110798
That CGI looks better than most games today with their shitty attempts at realism
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>>173126768
So what's the alternative? Let the company bled out?
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>>173109497
That is just way too much gore

Why do devs always do this
>>
Still no Ancient Empires
Still no CoW 1.5
Old Friend still not revealed
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>>173126463
I feel you there man. Like if you don't like how the game is handling something or it's mechanics thats fair game but a lot of these people are just acting like children. "Ew, more fantasy? CA what are you DOOOING GAWD"

it's like, you lot do realizes them doing Warhammer is giving them a solid few years to work on the next historical title? And the money from Warhammer is going to be put into it to try and make it bigger and better. Like it's taking time sure but can you imagine what they must be cooking up?

But no lets all complain because we're not getting the game right away despite being told mutiple times it's years off.

And the youtuber thing just gets to me because these guys are spreading their stupidity to hundreds of others who then repeat it over and over again.
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>>173126463
>more money for CA means better funding for developer teams and more/better historical titles
I believe their fear is that the success of Warhammer will instead lead to less historical titles as CA sees what kind of money fantasy can bring in.
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>>173126768
But TWW has the best DLC of any TW game by miles

>$20 for a entirely unique faction in terms of campaign and battle mechanics
vs
>$20 for one faction, that's identical to the base factions except with a different skin and 1 to 3 unique units. Then rehashed into four factions
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>>173126892
>Still no CoW 1.5

>mfw all the reddit tier comments on the moddb page sucking the devs' dick because they are taking their time
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>Rome comes to me with a non-aggression pact and money
Yes, you better be scared bitchboys
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>>173126979
yeah, nah, no DLC for historic games was 20$, they also used to sell the mini-campaigns separately from the faction dlc's, but now they bundle them together, and up the price, because no one would buy that shit otherwise
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>>173126867
Because when most people are playing battles, they are zoomed all the way out.
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>>173126463
>so disheartening
Sounds a bit gay desu
"Disheartening" shouldn't be in your vocabulary unless you have a vagina
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>>173127118
>not being a cute girl
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>>173127079
>yeah, nah, no DLC for historic games was 20$
Neither is anything warhammer

I just wanted to point out your bullshit in showing you dont even know anything about their current DLC practices

No more replies for your shitposter.
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>>173127118
>my masculinity is compromised by words
Jesus, someone's an insecure little faggot. Did your uncle fuck you or was it the Catholic Priest, double points for all of the above.
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>>173127118
>he's not a girl
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>>173127079
>because no one would buy that shit otherwise

You are absolutely retarded if you think that this is the reason.
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>>173127250
He doesnt even know what the DLC is, just ignore him.
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>>173127192
>Neither is anything warhammer
you were the one who said 20$, what the fuck? Look call of the poopoo is 14 bongs, Empire of sands if 6 bongs, pretending that the prices are anywhere close to one another is retarded, but that is what you did in this post here
>>173126979

>>173127250
that is precisely the reason, I have wood elves and I never played the mini-campaign its boring as fuck, we are not talking about AoC level of campaigns here, they are tiny, piss easy and boring
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>>173127385
>CA should make everything for free! why the fuck do i pay for anything i hate TW and everything in this series!
Good you for anon, really. But this isnt /gsg/, we actually like our series here kiddo. Now shoo, no one gives a hoot about your little crying bitchfit.
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>>173127385
Here is an amazing and incredible new thing you can do; dont buy the DLC or games you dont like.

Wow! Revolutionary!

Crying that WE have a campaign that you didn't want but you paid for anyway. If it actually fucking mattered you wouldn't have purchased period. You're a hypocrite who just wants to feel like a special snowflake for being contrarian.
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>>173127385
>that is precisely the reason
No, it isn't. Seperating them means that the campaign becomes DLC for DLC, which most devs don't because it is confusing for the consumer and lowers the potential market from everyone who owns the game to just those who own the Wood Elves DLC.

>I never played the mini-campaign
>they are tiny, piss easy and boring
So which is it?
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>>173127490
>crying bitchfit
what are you talking about these two are my posts
>>173127385
>>173127079
and there is no crying there, all I did is pointed out that this post here>>173126979 is retarded, because its implying that the prices or the policies are the same in warhammer compared to earlier games

also using words like kiddo, shoo, crying and etc is a sure sign of a huge cunt
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>>173119593
Shhhhh, only dream-dreams now.
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>>173127571
>and there is no crying there
>he says as he cries some more no one gives a flying fuck
Okay kiddo, you keep not crying while crying.

Here is your (you)
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>>173127558
>>I never played the mini-campaign
>>they are tiny, piss easy and boring
>So which is it?
I mean I started the seasons of revelation campaign but then instantly dropped it, because its shitty and offers nothing over the regular grand campaign

though wood elf DLC in general is pretty weak, they don't even have retinue, and when it just released there was literally just 1 defensive "siege" layout, it looks like they added a few more in a patch, but its still kinda awkward as they haven't considered that someone might invade the mountains, badlands or norsca, because the layouts look ridiculous if you did
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>>173127650
you are pretty pathetic, you make a false comparison, then when someone points it out, you just post LMAO stop crying, and repeatedly claim that no one cares while actually continuously replying to me
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>>173126186
I think I'll have a shot.

>>173126680
You may be right. I don't really want to tie anyone up I just want to err...break her to my will?
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>>173127790
Wow so you cant even read, not the guy you were originally responding to Mr Crybaby.

Now have another cry that you spent your money on a product you wanted but decided you didnt want because you're too stupid to learn about it before buying it.
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>>173127194
Umm sweetie, why did you phrase all those biggy wiggy insults in such masculine aggressive terms if there's no such thing as gendered language?
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>>173094885
Third Age
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>>173127851
nice reading comprehension, I said the mini campaign is shit and the DLC has its issues, it doesn't mean I haven't enjoyed playing WELVES in the grand campaign, you know its possible to critisize something you like, right? you don't have to whiteknight a company and defend every single aspect of its product/policies
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>>173126412
Cus Orcs and Goblins are designed to be complementing, not just different flavours.

Brutal and Cunning, side by side as the twin gods designed it.
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Been having a standoff with the Jutes like this for years now. I'm starting to feel a little bit intimidated.
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>>173127981
>that backpeddle
>that goalpost move
Here is your last reply, post something witty and another reaction image thats the opposite of your crying face right now
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>>173127904
Except french, and others.
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There should be an event to invite Vlad into the shield of civilisation mechanics, with a penalty.
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>>173128027
>backpeddle
where? again my point was that your comparison here>>173126979 is incorrect

and you just started shitposting about crying
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>>173128118
I see no reason why not with the
Von Carstein faction.
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>>173128015
just bait them into attacking your navy or something, or use your two stacks to fuck them all up, its the AI we are talking about, like half those soldiers are possible nordic band or basic spears
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>>173127904
explain sweetieposting. I must have missed it origin
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>>173128441
This one liberal chick thought it'd be funny to reply ti all of Donald Trump's tweets as roleplaying as his mother, calling him "sweetie", and belittling him. /pol/ saw this and viewed it with a mix of amusement and arousal at her mommy dirty talk roleplay. Thus, sweetieposting became a thing.
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>>173128545
thanks
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>>173127720
In Norsca the Wood Elf map is covered in snow, making it two defensive maps at launch.
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>not noble steeds for noble deeds
>not noble deeds DONE DIRT CHEAP
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>>173129291
>Noble deeds done with steeds
Scans better for my luddite ears.
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>release date
>2017
THATS NOT SOON ENOUGH

FUCK
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>>173108915
I really hope we'll someday get a proper greenskins horde faction. Wurzzag should have been one.
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>>173094885

Shogun 2. An army made from 80% bow peasants can clear a castle in no time flat.

Bows are OP in that game, possibly because nobody has shields.
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Let me get this straight guise... the advisor is a puppet of Tzeench?
Or it just happens on Chaos route?
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>>173130306
So all of my failures have thwarted trench? The goalposts have moved and now I am the winner!
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>>173130417
Tzeentch, Fuck phone posting
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Is it possible to win this battle lads or did I fuck up my comp (or should have waited to bring a 3rd stack)?
I've already lost it once
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Why is fighting humans so satisfying?
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>>173130660
Cause they're plain
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>>173130660

Because humans are faggots

Faggot
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>>173130658
Just keep trying, anon! It looks pretty hard but it's definitely possible.
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>>173130417
Nah, even the times where you lose you're playing into Tzeentch's hands, the god has a fetish for people failing.
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>>173129817

Reminder that every single other time that CA has given a vague release date like this they have either taken it to the absolute limit (i.e. "February" means "February 28th") or they have ended up outright delaying to a later, specific date.

Expect December 2017 or early 2018
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Will they include the different clans of Skaven or just do a WoC and make them undividied?
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Is there any way to make Rome II harder without stat inflation?
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>>173126463
Most of the TW fanbase are morons. You're assuming that morons aren't morons. That's your problem.
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>>173131412
Likely represent them through units. All shaven units like gutter runners and jezzail teams are hired out by their clans. Pestilens probably just send their monks to spread the good word and they won't leave.
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>>173130660
>tfw you're too much of a pussy to play evil races because every time you kill humans or another 'good' faction, you can't help but think of the suffering you're inflicting on them and all the widows and orphans you are making
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>>173131639
>tfw lizardmeme
>tfw my vision surpasses the suffering of warm bloods
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>>173131128
That's because the last time they gave a definite date was for TWW1 which was set for an April 25, 2016 release. Then they had to push it back a month and DLC 1 the Warriors of Chaos which was supposed to be released a month later became preorder DLC. And then everyone bitched.

So now CA doesn't give definite dates.
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>>173131639
>got into a discussion with another dude from here about that
>you rule your faction in total war
>conquer to improve your wealth
>wealth improves the lives of your people
>but war makes it worse
>the only winning move is to be a little trade hub somewhere and wait to get steamrolled by rome
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Warhammer is cool and all but we all know that the Horde would absolutely rape the forces of destruction and the Alliance could annihilate the forces of order without even trying.
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>>173131639

>think of the suffering you're inflicting on them and all the widows and orphans you are making

I do, anon.

I do.
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>>173131784

>>>/wowg/
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>>173131412
>>173131564
The Skaven faction will be in Skavenblight and unplayable if you only own the original game.

Clan Pestilens will be in the New World and the primary Skaven faction there fighting the Lizardmemes.
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>>173131784
Yeah and so could Iron Man, what's your point?
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>>173131639
I can't be evil prick in crpgs relying heavily on story and characters because i attach to those characters
I don't have a problem with being edgy faggot in strategy games unless i'm playing as good guys like based Karl Franz. But when playing as no names, or definitely evil guys i don't have any remorse

And I did things in Skyrim
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>>173131784
I actually agree if you look at it pragmatically
Warcraft has
>better technology
>safer and more bountiful magic
>access to powerful heroes
>warcraft dragons completely shit on Warhammer
Warhammer has
>better trained troops on a whole
>less but more OP magic
>Racial leaders are more badass
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>>173130994
Turn 180 and only Bretonnia (me), Welves and Dwarfs left, and they've both decided to eradicate all humans.
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>>173115846
ARMIES OF EXIGO HAD TWO LAYER RTS WARCRAFT 3 CLONE MAPS WAS SOOOO GOOD FUCKING COPY THEM ALREADY

GAMING IS FUCKING DEAD ENJOY PERPETUAL BRAVE NEW WORLD TIER BULLSHIT DRIVEL SHIT MEDIA FOR THE REST OF YOUR CONSUMING EXISTENCE WHICH WILL BE PROLONGED BTW.

REMEMBER YOUR GOING TO BUY THIS SHIT FOREVER.
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>>173131639
Dark Elves will be out soon, then you can play as the true good guys of the Warhammer world.
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>>173094458
yes but the Chaos wastes are basically Antarctica + chaos
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made some OC for yall
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>>173127997
not so much as to say one is evil and one isnt is what im getting at here
this is like the 3rd time i've seen it done in this thread
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>>173130306

>infiltrate every major faction
>encourage them to start wars between themselves
>winner strengthened, has experienced lords, high tech troops, and a built up economy
>is able to stand up to the ever-watcher and Archeon

He is, he just fucked up really hard.

Is this the Tzeentch fucking with himself thing, or was this just the worst plan ever?

Also, Just started brets, but I'm having trouble getting started with their campaign. All those choices in the cities are making my head spin. Should I go after marienburg's little town? Wait until they go away and attack the city? I tried building some more infantry and attacking the orc camp, but I died pretty hard. I beat greenskins on hard, and I'm doing well as Empire, but I need help with brets. What are my first moves?
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>>173100950
respond pls
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>>173131780
>the only winning move is to be a little trade hub somewhere and wait to get steamrolled by rome

It's weird that in Warhammer this is actually the optimum setup when playing Empire.

>set up trade
>secure your province from rebels
>just confederate when your allies are being attacked by monsters
>be the hope of man
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>>173132869
Good job anon, have a (you).
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>>173132751
>true good guys
>bdsm incest slavering raiders
What did he mean by this?
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>>173132692
But I like having my campaign map run at more than 15 fps
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>>173132898
>He is, he just fucked up really hard.

>you win
>all the other chaos forces get fucked
>your forces spread throughout the land, form the super empire
>however....
>100 or 10,000 years later, no matter how long, someone comes along and fucks it up
>tzeentch plants the seeds of civil war
>empire crumbles as his puppet takes command
>while all other gods, including his chaos rivals, were weakened - tzeentch gains full control of the planet

Remember, ALL are pawns of the Great Deceiver.
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Is it me or I enjoy playing certain LLs on foot.

Archaon is example.
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>>173133252
what if I told u.. the real good guys were the bad guys....

woa....
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>>173132869
where is the histfag version of this
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>>173096062
>Bring death wizard
>see melee blob clump up
>clear entire melee blob with Purple Sun
>entire army routes
This is pretty much what I did on my chaos campaign.
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Ok /twg/ I Finally want to conquer everything in the sight. So i'm asking what mods are good for world domination. Don't even try to post ''Conquer Everywhere.'' What other mods should i get? I have mostly reskin and graphical mods so i don't have any game mechanic changing yet.. I'm also either running Vampire or Empire, but not sure yet.
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>>173131639

I have this problem in RPGs, but oddly not strategy games.

>MFW turning the Old world into a skeleton infested hellhole full of huddling, superstitious peasants afraid of their own shadows, making peace and "friends" with the empire over our mutual hatred of the midget menace and my sexy Lamhian diplomats while my balefires spookify their lands and I retake the ruins Chaos leaves in their wake, leaving the false emperor sitting in high corruption Reikland adoring me as his empire slowly dies around him.
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>>173133438
I really like Cataph's closer to TT magic mod

And his mods in general
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>>173131639
Fighting evil races as other evil races is oddly satisfying
Like crushing chaos as the vampire counts
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>>173132941
>>173100950
>save for few Hellcannons
>has four
You got the job done anon.
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>>173133438
Don't listen to >>173133581 he doesn't know what he is talking about. Get Steel Faith Overhaul it is the only mod you need. Makes the game feel more like tabletop.
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>>173132979
>It's weird that in Warhammer this is actually the optimum setup when playing Empire.
No it's not, the optimum setup for empire is to conquer Marienburg and then steamroll everything.

Or are you one of those guys who let Todbringer get away with funding jihadi rebels?
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>>173133846
SFO is fine, but you can't really use it if you want to mix and match various mods
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>>173132421
>wood elves walking up dwarf siege towers
what the fuck did you do in this campaign?
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S K I N K S
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>messing around with Call of Warhammer End Times custom battles
>decide to see what these "Ogre Leadbelchers" are all about
>mfw realizing the absolutely devastating power of this unit
In 'lore' terms, it's basically just cannon fire except with a lot more mobility and possibly more precision albeit a lot less firing range right?
I mean honestly is there even a single monster, demon or hero capable of withstanding fire from say, 20 good leadbelchers and surviving, let alone killing them all?
They will be included in the Warhammer 3 Ogre rosters I hope
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>>173126463
I only play history Total Wars but anyone angry by the WH2 announcement is an idiot. We knew it was coming since before WH1 and we know a third is in the works. There are two history projects in the works, just be patient and it'll come eventually.
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>>173131639
>tfw love making Pyrrhic victories where all my peasants and my enemies peasants die
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>>173133871
True, it's not optimal but still viable.

>funding jihadi rebels?

I forgive him and his yiff fags because in the end it's a free mortar and the only one actively buying people to go to war with me is Marienburg. Which is all the more reason to murder them.

That and at the end of the day Boris seems content to lodge up in Brass Keep and have a cold war with Hochland while reminiscing about fighting Khazrak. Trying to conquer or befriend him before Archaon shows up always ends up not being worth the effort.
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V A M P I R E - C H A N
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>>173134130
>fishhelmet faction

Top tier roleplaying m8.
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>>173134130
>1366x768
Explain
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>>173134205
Tbh those eyebrows are really cute
>mfw there are men in this very thread who do not like those eyebrows
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>>173134061
>In 'lore' terms, it's basically just cannon fire except with a lot more mobility and possibly more precision albeit a lot less firing range right?
nah in lore terms it's just a bunch of ogres with grape-shotting cannons, they're supposed to work more like a blunderbuss or shotgun iirc.
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>>173133438
I use these, played 2 games in coop already.

AI is challenging on very hard with its army comps on very hard and also no fucking morale debuff or public order cheats.
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>>173131854
nice source
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>>173134061
Does Call of Warhammer have the Ogre chariots with cannons on them?
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>>173131639
>TFW purely mechanical min/max for most effective proft and combat techniques.
>gladly sends hundreds of men to their death just to win the battle.
I have no soul
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>>173134208
that was the battle for Grunburg

>>173134294
I play total war warhammer on a laptop
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>>173134308
>conquer anywhere
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>>173134423
>hundreds of men
You are like little baby, watch this!
*starts the great war in vicky2 over a minor issue*
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>>173133846
>>173133963
>SFO
>fine let alone good
SFO is Radious tier garbage for shitters who can't git gud in vanilla. The creator is also a whiny piece of shit who can't take any criticism and gets butt hurt at any comment that isn't sucking his dick.
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>>173134554
Its good mod, hate artifical restrictions like this.

Anyways I tend to raze in mid-late game instead of capturing. Chaos& vampirism is way too high also.
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>>173134562
>he doesn't exterminate the populations in his cities just to keep public order.
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>>173131639
>>173134423
When you get units from the early-early game die in late-late game.

Truly terrible feel, I feel way attached to my characters, locations and units.
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>>173134339
Unfortunately not
Right now Ogre Kingdoms are a very barebones with a relatively small amount of units, but in 1.5 I think they will be a lot more complete. However I'm not sure if that chariot unit will be in 1.5
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>>173134490
>I play total war warhammer on a laptop
You don't have decent PC? Invest into it if you like Total War so much.
Though I'm currently suffering like that too because my computer stopped work. And i can't fix it so i'm playing on laptop until i figure out what to do.
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>>173094630
Thought that was Turkey from the thumbnail.
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>>173134779
Damn, I wanted to see that thing in action. When ogres are finally in that will be one of the main reasons for me to play them.
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>>173134648
Who needs public order when you have an army?
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>>173134061
I'm more curious about the unit size of the ogres. They don't field 30+ unit sizes like everyone else, so it seems that we'd get smaller units that can easily be surrounded and swamped.
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>>173099316
Do Skinks even have souls? I suppose they have spellcasters so they have to, right?

Seems weird since LM are like bio-robots. All pre-programmed n shit.
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>>173134019
In the post-Chaos descent into war between everyone, I made the noob mistake of choosing not to join any of my allies in the wars they declared against eachother, therefore making everyone hate me.
They all declared war on me 10-20 turns later. I conquered all the Empire provinces and finished off the Orcs and Vamps, but now I'm up against Welf and Dwarfs doomstacks who've combined to purge all humans from the Old World.
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Albion should be in the next game right if they are unlocking Ulthuan/Lustria/Naggaroth right?
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Guys how do I Chaos against greenskins? ( versus )

He will most likely out-gold me and will be able to field more units. Getting chaos to big size is quite time consuming.

Or should I stick to the right part of the map, slaughter through the dorfs and get there.
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>>173135082
Albion is "literally who" tier to an even greater extent than the other dozen "literally who" factions. It's also currently present on the TWW map as that tiny, pointless little island off the coast of Norsca, retconned to less than a tenth of its previous size.

Exactly what ALBION FUCKING SHITS deserved.
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HEY YOU STUPID FAGGOTS
I remember that launching Romania2 and playing Tilla instad helped with Tilla shit optimization
Does it help with warHam too?
i didn't play it a lot yet but i noticed it's optimized like crap
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>>173132692
it would have been amazing if the map was actually two-layers instead of the underway stance being the way it is now, the map movement in warhammer in general is fucked, with these stances working fucking everywhere, WELF travel should have been like S2 railroads with the ability to quickly move from forest to forest, and underway could have been handled much better as well
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>>173135082
Ummm, Albion is in the game sweetie.
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>>173135363
See that sad little drop of piss at the very end of the BNC (Big Norscan Cock)? That's the new canon Albion.
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>>173135459
i wont consider it ingame until we can walk on it and theres shit on it
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>>173135459
>>173135363

I'm not even the Fimirposter, I just wanted to see if they did anything cool with Albion. Guess if it's already in game there's nothing to expect from it then I suppose.
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And thus my campaign ended...
h-hold me bros...
There was just too many...
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>>173134994
Isn't the average ogre like twice the size of an Orc Boy? I thought that's how ogres dealt with other factions, less units but much higher quality
>>
What is so interesting about Albion?
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>>173135543
Is the advisor an Albion druid?
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>>173135580
that army
no wonder you lose
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>>173135185
Fighting dwarfs in the mountains is possibly the worst thing you can do. Rush chaos warriors/chosen, sack the empire for loads of cash and you'll quickly be able to field at least two elite hordes.
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>>173135630
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>>173135630
They're the only ones with plate armor, and the arthurian knight looks are dope
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>>173135697
my army was half fucked up from fighting city turn ago.

Also what would you switch out then?
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>>173135645
He is celestial wizard from cinematic trailer.
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>>173135580
I see no reason why you shouldn't have won that. Also, where are your other armies?
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>>173134768
how do you get that many units per stack? which mod is it?
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>>173111098

>Chaotic Evil (all of these want total chaos and the destruction of the universe)

Chaos Warriors
Daemons
Beastmen

>Lawful Evil:

Vampire Counts (Nagash/Manny/Vlad want control of the world, though many individual vamps just want to be left alone)

>Neutral Evil (all these races will backstab each other and break promises without a second thought, but they are not totally chaotic and random)

Dark Elves
Chaos Dwarfs
Skaven

>Lawful Neutral:

Tomb Kangs (they want their land back)
Lizardmen (hate chaos, but would kill all humans without a second thought if they thought the old ones told them to).

>True Neutral:

Ogre Kingdoms (they just want to eat whether that means fighting or taxing travellers)
Wood Elves (just want to protect their forest, can sometimes be Chaotic Good since they are naturally opposed to Chaos)

>Chaotic Neutral:

Greenskins (want to spread destruction, don't care who they kill)

>Lawful Good

Dwarfs (can sometimes be Lawful Neutral)
High Elves (but are still arrogant stupid fucks)
The Empire (but often fight each other since humans are dumb)
Bretonnia (see above)
Kislev (see above)
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Guys do I go with
Warlords of Chaos(https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=890292457&searchtext=chaos)
or
Ultimate Chaos (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=894230944)

?
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>>173135421

I don't think it does

And for the record, Warhams is optimized FAR better than Attila.

Not that that's saying a lot, since Attila is probably one of the biggest optimization disasters in recent memory.
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https://www.totalwar.com/blog/quick-word-on-historical-titles/

>tfw we were too autistic they had to make a statement

>an era that we haven’t tackled yet


What is it lads?
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>>173135816
Does it work as a wargame setting though? Albion would make a great place for an RPG, it sounds like somewhere you visit in a Witcher game. But I don't see an Albion army with varied units there fighting 500-5000 man battles.
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>>173136060
thanks, i'll try to tweak with settings a bit more
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>>173135953

>Skaven
>Neutral Evil

I thought they wanted world domination?
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hey lorefags, what are the relations between the wood and the high elves? why does in game letting them visit you lower public order, what kind of disagreements could they possibly have?

and why do wood elves have giant tits?
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>>173136086

>we

Speak for yourself /his/autist

Outside of a few /v/ermin who spilled in due to the announcement this thread was almost universal in it's mockery of these autistic retard.
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this is a cool trait, a shame he is already on a birdo and has no use for strider trait

>>173136060
>Warhams is optimized FAR better than Attila.
thats a lie, CA was just cheeky and significantly lowered the battle size and worsened lighting so that they can claim better optimisation
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>>173135924
>I see no reason why you shouldn't have won that
how?
I had half of army because it was fucked up from previous battles, i would have chance if it was fully healed
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>>173136231
>implying the /v/fags weren't the people spamming HISFAGS BTFO again and again ruining any chance the thread had of being decent and implying that I don't own TWWH
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>>173136121
Ya but in practice any of them will backstab the others of their race at any point. They don't want an orderly, lawful world. Hence they're not lawful.

Same with Dark Elves and Chaos Dwarfs. They want to take over but it wouldn't be a very orderly, lawful world.

Contrast with Nagash/Manny/Vlad who want a nice orderly realm of the dead to rule over.
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>>173136098
A campaign event took place there, albion involvement basically amounted to one emissary dude for the good guys, one for the bad guys and some giants.
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>>173134328
>sources are necessary for the painfully obvious

Brainlet.
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>>173136086
>Jack Lusted and veteran team members from the ROME II and ATTILA teams have formed a new Total War team to investigate further, and we’re excited to share news of their intentions as soon as we’re able.
what could it be I wonder? there is not much left to add to Attila, other than maybe Armenia or some more migrators, and there is no way they will make something like a Rise of Islam campaign (it would be really cool, but it would also get CA blown up)

all the talk of unique characters bothers me a lot though, I really, really hope there are no LL's in next hisgame

>>173136231
anyone with half a brain knew it was warhammer 2, I have no idea why anyone would think the countdown was for a historical total war game
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>>173136086
>era that we haven’t tackled yet
>a strong focus on character design
>eye-catching combat animations

Prepare your anuses, China is as good as announced.
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>>173136289
It was only 5 to 1 and you had elites while they hardly had any unless the other stack was different. Still, it was a major fuckup to get caught like that.
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>>173135953
>High Elves (but are still arrogant stupid fucks)
They are hot tho.
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>>173136456
I am going to be immensely buttblasted
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>>173136163

Each elf race thinks the others went down the wrong path culturally.

Not sure about the big ass tiddies though.
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>>173136456
Yea, I'm afraid of this. All I want is pike and shot ;_;
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>>173135630
The true home of bret peasants, they'll never return to their muddypoopoo home.
Also true albions are bros with lizardmen.
ALSO CYCLOPS AND WORLDS TALLEST GIANTS AND FEN ELEMENTALS AND SWAMP DRUIDS
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>>173136508
>It was only 5 to 1
no idea how could have won that while being half fucked up.
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>>173136352

>>implying the /v/fags weren't the people spamming HISFAGS BTFO again and again

The /v/fags were the only ones who could have been paying so little attention to things that they actually thought it would be anything other than Warhams 2

Anyone who came into this thread and expressed disappointment or surprise that it wasn't a historical game being announced was /v/ermin, literally 100%

Anyone who frequents these threads would already have known what the announcement was.
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>>173136673
Superior tactics.
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>>173135816
this is fucking dumb.

It's basically GW saying they are the old ones and they made the warhammer world from england...
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>>173136163
At the height of their power, the High Elves had settlements all over what is now Bretonnia / Tilea / the coastal regions of the Empire.

Then the Dark Elves managed to incite a war between the Dwarfs and the HElfs (aided by the fact that the HElf king at the time was an arrogant dipshit even by elven standards).

When the Dwarfs started pushing the HElfs back, the DElfs attacked Ulthuan, so the HElfs basically declared the Old World a lost cause and said "Time to leave your entire existences behind and return to Ulthuan so you can fight and die for a homeland many of you have never seen, faggots" to the Old World colonists.

The WElfs are the descendants of those colonists who said "fuck that and fuck you".
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>>173136456

Aww yes.
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>>173136163
What i'm wondering is why Mel Gibson is half beastman
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>>173136456
If it's china I'll stop playing TW games.
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>>173136456
fuark it really sounds like China at this stage. Worried
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>>173135953
>Will to power races:
Dark Elves
Vampire Counts
Undead

>Cuckold races
High Elves
Empire
Bretonnia
Lizardmen

>Satanic races
Chaos
Beastmen
Skaven

>Too dumb to posses a moral worldview races
Orcs & Gobbos
Ogres

>Tree molesters
Wood Elves

>Curmudgeonly but passive wealth-acculmating races
Dwarfs
Chaos Dwarfs

>Comic relief races
Gobbos
Halfings
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>>173136273
Doesn't strider remove the penalties for large units moving through trees though?
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>>173136163
High Elves think of them as rebels and tried to recruit them to fight Dark Elves, Wood Elves doesn't care but they saved HE queen Alarielle from chaos.
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>>173130417
>Canadian total war
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>>173136456
>a strong focus on character design
>China

all rook same
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>>173136456
I don't want only China. I want Genghis Khan with minicampaign in China.
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>>173136741
ah i see, you totally got me by the balls there mate
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>>173136761

>How do you want your global elven empire, famalam?
>Just fuck my shit up
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>>173136456
I'm primarily a Warhammer fan but China TW sounds promising. Especially if it expands outside China a bit for some unit variety.
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>>173136920
GOATeD
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>>173136920
>POOPOO PEEPEE!!!
>AAAGHGGGG
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>>173136761
Dwarfs btfo Helves? how did they manage this?
Why don't the Helves bow to the Dawi then?
Was it around this time that the greenskins and skaven fucked over the Dawi or did that come later?
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>>173136920
Based.

Also is gore pack really this good? it seemed too memey to me at many screens/vids
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>>173136761
>Arrogant
GOT THAT FUCKING RIGHT, SHAVING DAWI BEARDS OFF FOR FUN, FUCK ME JESUS CHRIST SIGMAR BY THE LIGHT BY THE RIVERS OF BABBILON.
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>>173136906
This guy gets it. A Khan campaign would mean a diverse unit roster from the different empires involved, from China to Hungary, tons of mini-campaign settings from countries we've barely seen so far and link related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98
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>>173136920

BIG

BEAST

COCK
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>>173136163
In each Elf army book there's a couple of similar paragraphs where they discus the different gestalt of each Elven faction as seen from their perspective. Hold on I'll get for you.
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>>173137031
not that anon but it's fun i guess, i like to watch units erupt in nice ways.
Still top jew move though
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>>173136920
Brayshaman: Hymen Bustigor
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>>173137031
Less Blood, Less Gore makes it look really good
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>>173137008

Basically the dwarf king took that elf kings head and took the phoenix crown to settle the grudge.

But by that time each race had fucked each other up so much that they both slunk back to their homes broken and would forever crippled after that.
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>>173135790
Yeah kinda, it would require me to get armor pen asap. And marauders are just mehhh

Thanks will try ( unless empire rapes my ass )
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>>173136456

Please fucking no

I would take actually literally anything else.

I'd take Cavemen: Total War where all the factions were the same naked men with pointy sticks over this.
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>>173137008
Magic resistance and industry. It was close though, and in the state they were left the greens and rats ran a muck.
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>>173093697
Kuuuuuumbaaayyyaaaaaa
>>
I still can't get over the fact that Bretonnians are monty python-tier memers yelling "tis but a flesh wound" and running around in armor searching for a holy grail
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>>173137164
>tfw no Bronze Age Total War where all the factions are the same half naked man with pointy, bronze pointed sticks
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>>173136456
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>>173137008
After that Slaan thought it was too much and cast earthquakes that destroyed connections between dwarf holds and allowed greenskins and vermin to attack..
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>>173137164
Could be Mongols TW. That would have a hell of a scope from Persia to Egypt to China to Russia.
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>>173137297
>reddit ribbits ruin everything
As expected.
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>>173135543
>he thinks CA actually plans to add any flavour to the game world instead of spamming the same four types of terrain everyhwere that were copied over from some godforsaken histfag game

LOOK AT HIM, LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH
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>>173137008

>Dwarfs btfo Helves? how did they manage this?

"BTFO" is a strong term to use.

The war was pretty much mutually ruinous and the Karaz Ankor has been in constant, steady decline ever since it ended.
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>>173136163
High Elves consider Wood Elves a lost colony and basically hick savages, Wood Elves have no interest in anything that isn't the forest. High Elves have helped the Wood Elves in their forest before, and got salty when it wasn't really appreciated and the wood elves didn't have any interest in fealty to the Phoenix King.

They won't attack either dark or high elves who enter their forest to parley, though, and both have before. The lowered public order is because of the forest spirits, but especially the Dryads- the Elves are in careful balance with the forests, sections of which despise them and regret letting them into the woods, and accepting envoys from outsider elves who have nothing to do with the forest upsets the balance.


Big Tits is due to being ara ara oneesans that look after shota franz
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THEY HAVE WRONGED US
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>>173135035
Welfs will be a nightmare but straightforward, take out their forest and they can't recruit anything. Good luck anon.
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>>173137471
Inspired by Archaon's ever-increasing horn size I see
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How can dwarfs even compete?
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>>173136456
Cool, let's hope it will be not shit.

haha, who am I kidding, their greed will mean a buggy mess on release and some shitty patches, just look at Rome 2 or Atilla
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>>173136456
*imagine*

Total War : Mythology

All core historic fanction + fantasy myth units.

Dem japanese tengus, china long-snake-dragon-thing, korean kumiho's , nordic fenris, slavic wood spirits ,egyptian anubises'nshit.

Game like this would be neato, a combination of real history and folk-tales.
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>>173136352
>>173136352
the /v/fags where on both sides
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why do I have a gut feeling that the mega campaign will have some smaller factions cut?
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>>173137872
Because they literally said just that in an interview.
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http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Quick_Word_On_Historical_Titles
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>>173137978
you're joking
ok, how the fuck is the mega campaign going to work, this is worrisome
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>>173138054
Shrink the world down to a really tiny size, duh
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>>173136163
>>173136761
>>173137407

To add to this, there are now cultural differences since WElfs and HElfs have been separate for millennia.

WElfs worship the entire Elven pantheon, but primarily Kurnous (lord of the hunt) and Isha (the mother). Ariel and Orion are supposedly the living avatars of Isha and Kurnous.

HElfs worship only the Cadai (gods of the heavens, which includes Kurnous and Isha), and very rarely Khaine (only by warriors before battle). But above all the HElfs primarily worship Asuryan (the creator god whose symbol is a phoenix).

Ever since the coming of Chaos in the ancient past, all Elven souls are doomed to consumed by the Chaos God Slaanesh, or occassionally taken by Ereth Khial to be her slaves. To prevent this HElfs put their souls in waystones which strengthen the Great Vortex. WElfs put their souls in spirit trees and Tree-Kin.

Meanwhile DElfs worship only the Cytharai (gods of the underworld), primarily Khaine the god of war and murder. Though Ereth Khial and Hekarti are also important.

DElfs don't give a fuck and just live a hedonistic life of rape and murder, pretending they'll never die.

HElf society is rigidly structured, with an emphasis on self control and study.

WElfs society is based on family connections, living in harmony with nature etc. Also they live in a magic forest that influences them weirdly (they grow angry along with the forest etc). Also since time doesn't flow properly in the forest, they only measure time in past, present and future.

DElf society is social darwinism to the extreme - rule of the strong and the weak are not tolerated. Extreme hedonism, rape and murder, religious fanaticism. And their whole economy is based on slave trading, slave labour and bloodsports. And they have a purge night.

HElfs know they are a dying race but still believe they are the only ones who can possible save the world.

WElfs think the end of the world is inevitable/foretold.

DElfs don't care and want to live life.
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>>173137091
>>173136163
The gestalt of each of the Elven races.
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>>173138054
Nobody knows. CA has been incredibly secretive about it, which is fucking retarded, considering it is the selling point of the trilogy and we are done with game 1 and heading into game 2 now. How it works should have been laid out for customers to see in advance.
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>>173136456
>>173137248
So if it is China I want to learn something about it's history and culture. Any movies i should watch? What books are considered the best to learn? I don't know shit about them from pre-Mao times, and i wanted to change this anyway.
>>173138054
If they only will cut out some minior factions, there will be no problem to bring them back using mods. Hovewer if they resize provinces a bit, then we will have problem.
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HAHAHAHAHA

Darren looks like a fuzzy egg.
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Weak /twg/fags hide-screech in fear of so-called "/v/ermin." Playing histfag against fantasysperg is easy-fun! One day when your gay RTS die-dies you will understand why we are superior!
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>>173138218
>>173138217

My niggas.
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Lizardmen cold ones are cool as fuck, Dark elves ones are darker
>>
The Dark Elves, The Snark Elves, and The Bark Elves
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>>173138350
>cold ones are cool
yes
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>>173138247

Three kingdoms 2010 is a good place to start

The whole series is on youtube last I checked
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>>173138054
Merging some minor factions into their parent factions would be good imo. If you have the whole world to play in you don't want to fuck around summoning all the elector counts, you obviously want to travel the world.
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We back! Savoyboys are gonna crush some Burgundian skull under their boots, and in a few turns we get bombards to make out future conquest even easier.
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>>173138232

>CA has been incredibly secretive about it, which is fucking retarded

I'm getting the sense that they literally haven't even got it working yet and thus don't actually know what it's gonna end up looking like
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>Everyone finally gets over having China as the new setting
>The announcement is made
>Yfw it's Hindu: Total War
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>>173138658
India would be more interesting than China.
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>>173138658
The sanitation would be too ridiculous to handle.
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>>173138607
I have a hard time believing a project that costs tens of millions of dollars got greenlit without a working prototype.
>>
>implying they made flying units just to never use them again
It'll be WW1, mark my words.
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>>173138756
>16 levels of sanitation building
>the best is 'streets are now only half filled with shit'
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>>173138756
India had some of the best sanitation in the world before the British arrived.
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>>173138451
The two Red Cliff movies are also great if you don't want to watch a whole series.
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>>173138809
They probably know how it could work, but don't know how it will end up working. There's lots of testing to be done before they reach that stage, and they obviously don't want to say anything before they've decided.
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>>173138870
WE WUZ PLUMBERS
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>>173138862
>>173138756

jej
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>>173138870
That's because the Muslims controlled India, not natives.
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>>173136871
no
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Why does dwellers bellow do such awful damage compared to Golden pups which costs way less?
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>>173139239
Such a punchable face.
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>>173138870
>listening to me please, children *wobbles head*
>before the Britishes were coming to Bharat *drinks cow urine*
>It was a very very clean land *manages off shore call centre*
>We wuz shitting in loo n shieeeet, yes yes yes *plays sitar*
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>>173139527
You wouldn't last one fucking second in the ring with Dana White. He destroyed Tito Ortiz in a closed doors gym boxing match.
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Elector Counts Status: Dismissed
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>>173138832
>hovering =/= flying

Its gonna be china, thats why they need an advisor because china is a historical clusterfuck and if they get china right CA can bathe in chinese emoni like hollywood
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>>173138584
Bing bang bong. I wish I could do drop in battles, bc i need friends
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>>173137357
We already have blackfire pass though, and the chaos wastes

That stuff's unique. The Dark Lands will probably heavily have blackfire pass type terrain and the mountains of mourn will be mountainy

Also lots of jungles soon
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>>173139575
this, lads, a brettonian for you
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>>173136456
I want that.

I also want to see the butthurt when it is announced.

>MUH MEDIEVAL 3
>MUH WW1
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>>173139696
Did that guy die?
>>
>>173136456
>>173138658
Why can't it be both China and India?
>>
TW:Cod Wars is the only announcement i'll be satisfied with
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>>173136086
Is there a list of CA members around?
Maybe we can pick out the historian.
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>>173139757
Do I take it, boys? I'm gonna have to backstab in the future but for now it would be nice.
>>
Total War: Emu Wars
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>>173139575
just google what a saurains was and im gonna be salty af if cant get a 19 stack of em
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>>173139973
That would require planning, thinking about things and an actual effort to blance shit.

Which CA has no interest in doing, because that would cost money, and that money should go to sega shareholders instead.
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>>173137297
lol no, the Slann did that because they found some old blueprints from back when the world was being built and so decided to put some finishing touches onto the globe.
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>>173136456
I wouldnt mind to learn about Chinese history through a total war game. But all the chinese stuff I see in media is so hyped hackey and seems like propaganda. If CA were to Panda huehue to them and have Lords that can 1v100 and fly around the map i'd be somewhat pissed off.

On second thought if they played it up and we got an army full of Kung fu Hustle or Crouching tiger, hidden dragon types I'd love it.
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>>173140325
Search CA on LinkedIn and find him.
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>>173138451
>>173138914
Thanks I will watch them.
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>>173139657
None of that would change the fact that he has a very punchable face.
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>>173137735
i agree
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>>173140360
I would take it and then backstab them whenever i like. I always act like that in Medieval 2 because there is no NAP.
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>>173136873
yeah, sure but its not like the bird spends that much time walking

>>173136934
>pointlessly tall
when will the manlets learn?
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>>173137709
>or Atilla
but Attila was a decent release
>>
What's your top 3 favourite factions to play as in all of Total War history?
>>
Are gyrocopters/bombers ever worth it?
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>>173137735
>Total War : Mythology
Seems the obvious choice for the fantasy team once Warhammer is played out.
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>>173141087
Not sure.
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>>173134205
She's a big girl.
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>>173141087
Sciipii (R1) and Oda (S2) are on the top. Not sure about third, Poland or Moors in M2 maybe.
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>>173141269
>talking about something that will happen 7 years from now
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>>173094178
But travellers getting lost in the woods and seeing a castle on the hill illuminated by lightning bolt is the perfect setup.
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Who /errantrywar/ here?
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>>173141087
WRE, Fatimids, Venice

honorary mention goes to United Provinces and Persia in ETW

>>173141354
proud daughter of athel lorel > rotten vamp tits
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>*blocks your path*
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>>173141821
hello
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>>173141821
>*stabs*
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>>173140360
Feels good to see your country
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>>173141269
>>173137735
They've got the warhammer fantasy team, just port 'em over to doing this once they're done.
They wouldnt really need the Age of Mythology licence because mythology is public domain but the partnering would be the biggest thing for RTS' since Warcraft III (discounting total war: warhammer which really is a pretty fucking huge deal, lads. We're living in a golden age.)
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so in fantasy warhammer where does slaanesh come from? I know that in 40k he came from elven hedonism and tore a hole while doing so, but what about fantasy? and what is his relations with the elves in fantasy?
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I want a custom lord creator and an ability to join play as any of the minor factions, fuck the LL's desu
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>>173142349
I want to paint armies and customize banners.
From what i hear not a lot of people touched the multiplayer stuff in Shogun 2 but it feels like such a missed opportunity in Warham.
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Can vampires drink other vamps what about chaos followers or champions? What happens?
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>>173142483
well banners don't even display in warhammer, which is a shame really, I kinda liked picking a banner for my legions and giving them names in Attila, it would be quite nice in warhammer

painting armies though is something I don't care much about, because I suck at it, and just end up using presets, at least thats what happened to me in DoW games
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>>173141421
>>173141440
>Build highly profitable expertise in fantasy wargaming
>Put expertise to use or squander
Only question is whether they'll create their own fantasy IP, or go for established lore setting of LotR or Warcraft.
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PRINCE

AND

EMPEROR
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>despite already having been told several times, histfags get yet another huge post explaining a game is in development
>despite this the retarded manchildren continue to bitch and moan about fantasy

CA might as well give up on history entirely at this point, there's no pleasing these idiots.
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>>173142130
Deification of the sin of lust & pride. None of the Chaos gods have a genesis in Fantasy, they are pre-existent and invade the world through the Old Ones' warp gates.
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>>173142543
They become englishmen who throw road rollers and stop time.
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>>173143063
>Pontus version

Que
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>>173141208
yes always.

Learn to use miners with blasting charges & you also learn to use gyrocopters.

They're both part of the reason dwarfs are so fun to play
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>>173142825
Who knows but it would be difficult since WH has the best application to the Total War formula than either of those. LotR just isn't focused enough on fighting armies and a little too black and white.

Warcraft would be just a less interesting Warhammer, even worse if they include the later lore which Blizzard would almost require as an advertisement for WoW.
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>>173140360
Alliance was taken with France, kicked the shit out of a few more Burgundy stacks, and finally upgraded my main castle.

Look that these fuckin guys! I have real infantry now!
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>>173142836
PATRIARCH

AND

EMPEROR
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>>173143262
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Mods for the thinking man
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GOD IN HEAVEN
SPARE MY ARSE
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>>173141354
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>>173143796
LAYING SIEGE TO THEIR HOVELS

remember hoveldorf
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>>173142543

>Can vampires drink other vamps

Strigoi eat other vampires but that's a great way to get yourself purged by the Midnight Aristocracy. They barely tolerate missing peasants. Feeding on other vamps seems like a good way to end up locked in a coffin hanging from the ceiling of a Drakenhof dungeon.

>what about chaos followers or champions?

Vamps have an inherent attunement to dark magic. They could probably smell chaos taint or mutation on someone so if they can't feed on someone they'll probably know it. If I were a vampire I sure as fuck wouldn't feed on mutants. Marauders are probably fair game.
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>>173141938
Is it even possible to get triple digit kills with a gobbo spear unit?
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>>173144245
get a .pack editor, open the warhammer data file, adjust stats to make them ridiculous, other than that get all zombies and fate of bjuna them so they are all low health maybe
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whats the siege equipment mod people use so that enemy forces actually attack in sieges rather than just building equipment for years?
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>>173144245
>He doesn't gobb
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>>173143506
Their own IP based on mythological plus semi-historical units as anon suggested would be best.
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>>173093881
>/twg/ WILL defend Warhammer II's cut content being released back in waves of DLC
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>>173140360
>Princess with 2 charm
It's amazing how terrible the AI is with diplomats and princesses in Medieval 2.
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>>173143795
That is a patrician level mod list.

Moar boar variation looks pretty sick.
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>>173144245
If you're playing as Skarsnik, yeah. Or if you just have a well-developed Night Goblin Warboss as any other Greenskin faction. You can get something crazy like +36 attack and +30 charge for all goblin units by investing nine points in the Red skill tree.
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>>173143796
GOLD! FREELY GIVEN
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>>173144353
>got a .pack editor
>modified their health and damage so that could rape everything
>still routs at the slightest orc fart
>I forgot to buff up their morale
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>>173144659
speaking of which I wonder if they are adding this interaction, not that gobboz need to be any worse. If only big numbers actually worked in this game
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How does the magic detection skill work?

Does the wizard need to be deployed in my army?
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>>173145143

>Does the wizard need to be deployed in my army?

Yes
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>>173132887
Goblins can be reasoned with and bought, I'd argue that those putting them as a neutral party are right.
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Grudge Throwers, also known simply as Stone Throwers or Catapults, are powerful and destructive weapons that lob large boulders high into the air, sending them crashing through enemy ranks crushing limbs and armour alike. Grudge Throwers were originally simple stone throwers, used to command the approaches to Dwarf holds for many millennia. It was during the War of Vengeance that the practice of inscribing grudges on the rocks to be used as ammunition developed, so great was the fury of the Dwarfs at the betrayal of the Elves.[2a]

Even after the war there was no peace for the Dwarfs as hold after hold fell to the Greenskins or Skaven. New chapters were added to the Book of Grudges every year as the Dwarfs fell back to the surviving holds. They brought with them stone fragments of their lost realms and, reviving the older custom, inscribed them with runes describing the injustices done to them and laying curses upon their enemies. During the long siege of Karak Azgal the Dwarfs used these stones as ammunition, literally hurling their grudges back at their enemies. Since then it has become commonplace to carefully select and prepare the stones that are to be fired, with many skilled Engineers espousing their belief that the engine is only as good as the rock it throws — and therefore spend a great deal of time carving their anger directly onto the shaped stone ammunition.[2a]

are dwarves autistic?
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>>173145450
You only ask this now?

>6:1 Male:Female ratio
>manlets
>keep giant book describing all the wrongs done to them
>when they go crazy they try to kill as many people as possible in the process of dying

It's like an entire species of Elliot Rogers.
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>>173145450
>are dwarves autistic?
Are historyfags autistic?
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>fight battle
>game crashes on loading screen
>autoresolving = loss
FUCK DIS SHIT
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>>173145665
Honestly i'm not mad because this isn't another history game, i'm mad because it's a watered down simplified version of tilla, with a shit lore and shit memes
the only thing that defends warhammer is having a decent variety units roster
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>>173145665
This retarded tribalism really is here to stay, isn't it
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How do I pirate DLC, already bought Chaos and King and the Warlord but want to play poopoopeepee. It's just too expensive.
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>>173146007
Pretty sure it's like 90% shitposting.
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>>173145916
warham is more interesting than atilla easy. i don't think atilla produced even one good meme.

just fkin' give us empire 2 already
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>>173145114
fear elves? what the fuck? they are tall blonde faggots for fucks sake SKARSNIK
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>>173145450
Yes, if their science department is anything to go by
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>>173143709
This right here is the issue with having France as an ally: If they take Dijon, I have no way to get it, and I am convinced that Dijon is fucking vital to my defense. In the same token, right across the border from Macon a bit further south is the French castle of Feurs, which is also in a perfect position to strike my heartland in one turn. Basically, I'm saying I desperately need the English to start making moves here.
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What's the best stack comp for Chaos?
I don't really know what type of Chosen i should make my mainline unit.

>inb4 19 Shaggoths
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>>173145450
>Spend ages inscribing your hate for those who slaughtered your friends and destroyed your cities into a rock with perfect precision
>Load it onto your deliverers of vengeance and fire at the enemy
>Miss
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>>173146163
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>fighting my second siege battle of TWW
>the only reason they're actually sieging me is because I took their only settlement whilst their army was out and Bourdelaux are gonna fuck them up if they don't move somewhere.

Wish there were more epic sieges desu.

Anyone have an answer to >>173144395
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>>173146007
>taking shitposting seriously
Part of the problem friendo.
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>>173146240
Kholek and 19 Shaggoths.

Army upkeep will be around 190 and I dare you to beat it.
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> in particular thinking about additional content or standalones for some of our more recent historical titles

GIB
FAMILY
TREE
IN
ROME II
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f-fantasy fags g-get out!!!
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>>173146479
Is this really working? Or just a top meme
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>>173146736
>praise IGdood
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>>173146452
Having the general sink into /b/ levels of shit sure is better.
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>>173146479
>Hit start battle
>group
>right click

wow how interesting, great stacks for watching porn while "playing" the game. I don't understand how people can play with Pornstacks. Its like playing cookie clicker with the stuff that lets you not have to click
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>>173135645
yup, he arrived from Albion.
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>>173147221
Excuse me but as a trve patrician I exclusively play Shekel Clicker.
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>>173135630
Kilt niggers and bog spookies
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>>173147358
> Not playing Denari tapper

P L E B
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>>173135898
nah
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>get sieges by skelly army
>loose a grand total of 185 state troops
>they couldn't even remotely breach the walls and they only battered the gate down a second before their army disintegrated
>"close victory"
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>>173146876
It works great. Add some other units if you want variety but you should give it a go in custom battles and see for yourself.

Kholek himself can sport over 9,000 hit points, a 55% ward save, and a melee attack of over 600. And the whole army is fast and causes terror.
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>>173147540
His bird is Lord of Change from trailer.
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>>173147589
It was a close victory because it was fucking spooky.
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>put up phalanx and advance
>enemy has phalanx up too
>cant go around
What do I do, I am not well educated in roman strategies?
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>>173147602
wew, what about other daemonic units?
Forsaken, Chaos Spawn, Hounds?
Is it worth investing in them?
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>>173147696
Give up and go home
There is no greater military invention than the Phalanx
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>>173147696

You basically need to flank the greekboys. They can also be susceptible to missile weapons, since they have small shields and walk slowly. Fix them in place with infantry and then have your peltasts and cavalry gain superiority on the flanks. Once that's done, hammer and anvil their shit. You can also concentrate missile fire in the middle lines to try and break some key points, if you have a hard time flanking, but that's a mixed bag if you have to do that. Be sure to have a sword unit right behind the main line to rush in once the phalanx block breaks.
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>>173147763
Those units will be just as useful with any other lord. Kholek's bonus is a vast reduction in recruit and upkeep for Dragon Ogres and Shaggoths.
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>>173147602
I seriously hope CA implements the army limits in game 2. I don't care what other people do but I hate ending campaigns because I get tired of fighting the same 5 units spammed ad nauseam in late game campaign. Especially with SFO VC spamming the living fuck out of GG and Greens spamming shielded Black Orcs or the lovely Beastmen spawn with 12 mino units

If Skaven come out and clan rats and slaves are useless and you have to spam Stormvermin or Rat Ogres to get anywhere that faction will be dead on arrival
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>>173147696
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>>173147841
>Playing Rome 1 Years ago
>Hammer and Anvil a phalanx
>Entire phalanx spins around mid combat and wipes out half the cav unit.
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>>173094630
>DL a faction unlocker mod
>play as Persia
>turn 1 in debt and has unfixable public order problems
>lose to rebels in 4 turns
I mean I don't know what I expected
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>>173146240
>I don't really know what type of Chosen
depends what point you're at in the game.

You can get chosen as early as turn 20 at which point sword & board is best because no one has decent armour or cav yet.

But if you're fighting dwarfs greatweapons become great and if you're fighting any cav or monsters halberds are best.

Stack composition again depends on who you're facing & at what point in the game.

I used dogs all the way through my campaign because I just went straight for empire factions and they never teched up enough that they weren't still really useful.
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>>173146204
Hahaha bombards are the fucking shit
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>>173145114
Its already not in for wood elves, so I doubt it
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>>173148326
Truly the tactics of Olympus
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>>173148326

Just as Alexander would have done my friend, just as Alexander would have done :^)
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>>173093880
Go back to sleep, Slann
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>>173097423
Why do your unit cards have outlines? And what mod does Helmutt?
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>>173125887
Hey those are nice mammarys
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>>173148153
>we will never have a decent pike n shot TW war game on the scale of Empire going from 1650-1750
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>>173148264
It should be an optional thing. Like "opt in opt out" if you want to use it in your campaign.
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>>173098049
>Gimli's absolute devastation over seeing Moria as a tomb
>Him crying over Balin.
My heart's out for Durin's Folk
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>>173144495
what cut content could you possibly mean smartboi?
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So apparently some Slav squatters are making a medieval campaign port for the Medieval Kingdoms custom battle models for Age of Charlemagne. It is apparently is going to be released very soon.

Thank fuck, all those nice models for just custom battles was a waste.
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>>173149213
It would be nice for SP and would be a god send for MP. Gets rid of triple gorebull/shaggoth crutching and the game doesn't revolve around who has the best expensive option in an area.

Might actaully break the Empire/VC meta that has existed for almost a year in terms of being their own tier
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>>173148264
I know Medieval 2 Multi/Custom battles had something like that with a soft cap, where you could get up to a certain number of any unit but beyond some threshhold that varied unit-by-unit the cost would be prohibitively expensive.
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Is it permissable to get a hun nerf mod

because this is some real bullshit
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>>173146163
>>173146345
essentially goblins see elves like humans see trolls. They are so different as to be frightening.
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>>173105934
THEEE, EMPIREAAH
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>>173147650
I don't think so, pretty sure he's explained as an albion emissary or some shit. Isn't it also implied he is the "shrouded visitor from albion" event as well.
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>>173105934

FOR I AM CUMMING FOR YOU
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>>173149638
no i wont let you
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>>173149585
>released very soon
Just like A.E. and 1212, right?
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Why is the HMS Victory preserved and well known while the Colossus isn't? Look at those fucking kills


Pic caption
>Battle of Trafalgar British casualty rates by ship, with 19% for Victory leading the weather column and greatest rate 35% for Colossus amidst the lee column
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>>173148264
This really needs to happen in multiplayer at least. I know the "gold" is essentially the same but it seems more inaccurate and lacks the limit on each type of unit.
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Does cooldown reduction not effect overcasted spells?

Golden Puppers has a 11 sec cooldown if I use it normally but a 40 sec cooldown if I overcasted and it seems a bit weird.
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>>173149869
because one had nelson on it and one didn't
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Are greenskin trolls made of the same kind of fungus or are they a totally different race that just fight with the greenskins?
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>>173149754
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaMaUFCJVCA
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>>173149638
No, git gud. You must suffer as we've suffered.
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>>173149754
>"shrouded visitor from albion"
He is supposed to be Tzeentchian right? Because Albion dark emissaries were working for Bel'akor, not Tzeentch.
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>>173140519
On it.
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>>173148264
The player tech so much faster than the AI though, you can counter whatever they build so easily.
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>>173149852
Don't say unpleasant things Anon. All I want is a fucking campaign map with medieval models. Like I would accept a reskin with just those models in the Attila game or something. How can people just play custom battles all day and be happy? It boggles my mind.
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>>173149965
I think that overcasting adds a flat addition, so that the reduction is for the base cooldown only.
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>reinstall total warhammer
>start up a campaign
>play the first battle
>hey this looks really cool
>get bored and close game after a few more battles
This has happened like 4 times over the course of a few months
help
I've only ever completed one campaign and that was my first one
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>>173150024
After the first defeat of Bel'akor they threw in with pretty much anyone, becoming Dogs of War for chaos armies.

That includes a few who served other gods.
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>>173150024
Isn't that loser who was banished by Lizardmen throwing rocks at him?
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>>173149990
N-NANI?!
What it this?
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>>173149990
so hes a agent of tzeentch?
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>>173149921
It could also open up a way to give LL's some more depth. Karl could make Reiksguard a core choice and a bit cheaper. Volkmar could do the same for flagellants. That way to take a lot of certain units you need to bring a specific lord choice with a specific build in mind.

>>173150196
The player can also do this >>173147602 what is the AI going to do against that. At least in the other case the player is actively thinking how to counter pick AI rather than generating an army the AI cannot hope to beat ever. And in the case of Beastmen spawns turn 10 with 12 minos the same thing happens to the player.
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>>173149985
Different race
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>>173150373
The artist saying that he was paid to recreate an older looking version of the guy from the cinematic and the Warriors of Chaos event that spawns the Lord pf Change.

>inb4 "we don't know it's the same Lord of Change from the cinematic"
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>>173150373
>>173150569
Pretty much. That's what happens in the Chaos campaign. Instead of an invasion, Tzeentch's demon birb comes and betrays you.
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Lads I fancy a new campaign. TW WH

Would you like to suggest a faction and a gimmick?

I'll post pics as I go if there's interest.
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>>173150661
>That's what happens in the Chaos campaign.
That explain why i didn't see that. I never played as Chaos past 20 turns.
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>>173150813
Gobbo only Skarsnik game
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>>173150813
Bretonnia with peasants only
Have to stay in negative chivalry at all times
>>
daemons of chaos when
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>>173150990
What is it with you lot and Skarsnik?
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>>173151120

G O B L I N S
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does physical resistance include missiles? i.e all non magic attacks?
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>>173150813
I find that it's fun to pick a faction specializing in something and only make use of that specialization. For example, Durthu and only recruit Tree units, Brettonia and only recruit Knight units, Skarsnik and only recruit Goblin units, etc. For Skarsnik, you can count the Arachnorok Spider, the Squig Hopper, and the Artillery as goblin units given that all three have goblins included, but not stuff like trolls, giants, or any orcs. Durthu with only trees is surprisingly easy, actually.
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>>173151120
HIGH TENSION
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How do I disable this age of peace bullshit? It doesn't make any sense that empire and dwarfs are fighting each other. This is fucking retarded and whoever invented this should be hanged. When the enemies are killed the campaign is over, unless you want to attack some neutral faction for lulz.
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>>173150373
>>173150569
>>173150661
You guys really couldn't figure this shit out? A guy who talks to a bird, able to infiltrate ANY (human, orc, beastmen, chaos, elf) dominion and get to the highest authorities in order to keep the chess pieces moving along.

Come on man, the only reason a Beastie wouldn't gut a human is if they are Chaos-influenced, shit was so obvious. Prolly one of the OG chaos characters as well since the trailer featured a Tzeentchian Light Wizard but there is one anon who will say

"CA has said its not him" and post no evidence of CA saying the adviser isn't the trailer dude despite everything
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>>173151245
In the Beastman campaign he even explicitly says, "I know you want to kill me but you won't because you know who sent me."
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>>173150813

Clan Angrund

Never conquer the Eight Peaks
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Fuck it.


GOBLINS
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>>173150813
>asking for a cheeky suggest from the lads

banterous
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>>173151218
It just reverts to the state before Shield of Civilization hit, only now the factions left mostly don't have anyone to fight and need someone to declare war on. The AI isn't fond of just sitting there with no ongoing war.
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>>173132869

So did I. Sorry for the quality, barely second time doing moving stuff.
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>>173151218

The campaign is over when you think it is budbud.

Only autismos bother with the checklist, playing beyond the point where you think it's fun just to get a mainless pop-up screen is retarded.
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>>173151120
If you want to do a gobbo only run with Azhag, be my guest. He even starts off with an extra gobbo unit for you
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>>173151245
No, it was pretty obious who he is. But i didn't saw that picture and that movie.
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>>173151424
orly

that doesn't really answer the question which is who was retarded enough to think this is a good idea
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>>173151120
>>173151378
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>>173151524
It was me
I wrote to CA and suggested it
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>>173149985
Trolls are their own race, born of chaos energy but not really chaos followers as such.
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>>173151047
>Turbo masochism
Even I can't do that anon.

>>173150990
Is it ok if I count trolls as giant gobbos? I just like trolls.

>>173151210
Same question. If no, no trolls for me.

>>173151371
Based but not this time.

>>173151378
This is me.

>>173151417
Well I do like getting twg in on the fun.
>So I can pretend to have friends.

>>173151584
STABBY STABBY
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>>173150813
Miners & warmachines only as dwarves.
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>>173146479

>it's another maximum cheese to beat a shitty AI episode

why even play a game with 99.999999999999% chance of winning
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>>173151245
I like Advisor.
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>>173151486

Thumbs up Anon, I rike it
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>>173151486
What are 'they' looking at?
>>
>>173151486
Nice, I like it.
>>
>>173151524
>beat chaos
>friends with everyone
>press end turn
>press end turn
>press end turn
>press end turn
>press end turn
>get achievement for researching 2/3rds of technologies
>press end turn
>press end turn
>press end turn
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>>173151658
First question.

What do we name this cunt?

I think we're gonna rape Helmgart.

If I'm doing this, dubs and trips win over any suggestion with the caveat that any idea I find funny trumps those.
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>>173151584
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>>173150990

that's not a gimmick, that's fucking ezmode.

those gobbo buffs end up with fucking 60+ MA,,,and poison,,,and half upkeep of already dirt cheap units
>>
>>173151491
So allies declaring war on each other for no reason is "fun"? Even if you destroy the evil factions as a good faction, you are then punished with a random clusterfuck that doesn't make any sense.
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>>173151658
For Skarsnik's quest, you will need to recruit three troll units, but otherwise I'd avoid them and go for a straight "If the unit has goblin models, I can use it" army. This also means no Orc Shamans or Orc Lords, but you can use Goblin Shamans and Goblin Lords.
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>>173151658
Trolls are always aight, theyre a great unit.
>tfw trollking never
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>>173151486
How horrifying
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>>173151663
Because I like fluffy armies, you fag.
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>>173151781
What makes you unable to attack a faction on your own?
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>>173150364
Yes
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>>173151486
>when the gobbos git stabby an prik ya in da nob
>>
>>173151843
Gob O'zrule
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>>173150813
Greenskins campaign. Azhag only. Gobbos only.
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>>173151716

Azhag getting hyped over some propah orky stuff and worst skelly autistically raging in impotence.
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>>173152008

>i pwnt those empire swords haha im da best at this game
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>>173152009
Ah, so you want the AI to never declare war on you, just sit there while you build up enough forces to steamroller them. Gotcha.
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>>173151486

>Everyone has a skeleton inside them
>Azhag has TWO skeletons inside him

RATTLED
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>>173152167
Too late anon.

>>173152089
Your wish is my command.

I assume no lightning strike allowed?
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>>173145665

>praise Caesar
>not Hail/Ave Caesar

ONE JOB
N
E

J
O
B
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>>173152234
>empire swords
I didn't stop with the Empire. I eliminated them all.

Every faction.

I am the best.

And there's no one in the Old World left who can tell me otherwise.
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>>173093991
>They're all black

WE
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>>173152414
>expecting /tg/ to get anything right
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>>173151486
I love it.
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>>173152210
Link?
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>>173150062
Well, no luck. The best Ive found is a historian working under them who specializes in Roman and ancient history, but hes almost definitely from the other games.
>>
>>173151716
Goblin Archers
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>>173151486
This is great.
>>
>>173134637
finally someone fucking says it, why the hell does SFO get it's dick ridden so hard here

any mass overhaul mod is bound to be shit desu, with full workshop integration it is so easy and so much better to just tweak and tailor your game just how you like and not just bludgeon it with some massive shitfest overhaul just to get at 1 or 2 features you actually want.
>>
>>173151486
I feel sorry for the crown of nagash
>>
>>173143795
I like only think i would change is to use the alternate emote reskinned by the same guy that adds back in now floppy hats, and the altdorf company of honor unit for the empire as well.
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>>173153481
Slower combat and expanded factions mods are always incompatible. Overhauls are my only option anon inb4 gitgud
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>>173153562
>>173143795

And maybe all tabletop Lords
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>>173153481

>finally

pretty sure it's been called mediocre at best, though anytime a patch breaks it we get some fags crying about it

it's unbalanced and OP as shit
>>
>>173153481
I liked how Steel Faith posted a massive "letter from the community" on the official forums, because making a mod means he can speak for everyone that plays the game apparently.
>>
>>173153651
They're only incompatible because most combat altering mods go about it in a stupid way.
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>tfw I'll never crush greenskin/dwarf/undead/knife eared barbarians as an Imperator

Roman Empire replaces Reikland mod when
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>>173153815
KAM's Proper Combat is supposed to be done in the 'smart' way by editing weapon values and what not for the best compatibility, but I'm pretty sure it's still incompatible with stuff like The Southern Realm, since that adds new weapons like pikes.
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>there are literal autists who gets upset wether a game is historical/fantasy or not instead of taking the game at face value for entertainment
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>>173153881
Never, because you literally cannot import models into Warhammer.
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>>173140325
I assume they'd be working freelance
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>>173153669
>OP lords
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>>173153881
>warhammer doesn't even have unit formations
no testudo no party
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>>173153769
I like how in the thread dissecting vortex mechanics he missed the point entirely and called OP a moron for suggesting that vortices aren't nearly as shit as people think they are.
>>
>>173136456
>Inb4 age of dinosaurs and men
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>>173154109
CA added lance formation so presumably they have the flexibility to add others, even if modders can't yet.
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>>173153890
The smartest way is altering hit rates and morale effects, though I haven't found any that have done so in a way I like yet. Slowing combat to make it more realistic should ideally result in way less casualties before a rout and more emphasis on having support from other units, but also a much slower rate of casualties.
>>
does the amount of actual combat a unit/lord sees in a battle matter, relative to XP gain, or is it simply a number applied to all units after the battle equally?
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>>173154215
>click the free stats button but you gotta stand still (defensive testudo, yari wall, shieldwall, phalanx, the exact same shit different name)
wowee such strategy
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>>173154367
I'm pretty sure kills give xp, because cav that kills lots of routers rank up very quickly.
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>>173154462
Tetsudo in Rome 1 wasn't a straight defensive buff, what're you talking about? It made you worse in melee and you weren't immobile either. It just protected you from archer fire.
>>
>>173154462
It's not about the strategy. It's about your units looking cool in formation with their shields up. The stat bonuses are just icing on the cake.
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>>173154031
Either this is the case, or he or she is under a different job title than usual for secrecy (or he/she is not there).
>>
>>173154536
I'm fairly certain it goes by hp damage done. When a cannon gets two kills but are both giants it will rank up one or two chevrons, where's a cannon that gets 30 gobbo kills won't level up
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>>173154462
I kno rite? Those dumb Roman and Greek ponces just changed the way they stood and BOOM, they call it a fucken "formation". Lazy stupid idiot fucks
>>
>>173154774
Yea, you're probably right, cav does loads of damage on defenseless routers after all.
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>turn 5

...hi boris?
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>>173154073
Are they that op?
>>
Starting a Skarsnik campaign. What am I in for?
>>
>>173154606
Everything I mentioned which are from the more recent games act the same way you mong. Stand still, no need to micro for in some cases extreme stat bonuses (yari wall) or there are buttons you can activate in mid combat after a charge in order to again, give free stats for no reason (shieldwall and phalanx).

Its not engaging, micro intensive, or skillful in the least its just a free stats button to benefit someone who now doesn't have to micro
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Guys, how do i effectively heal my Chaos units?
After every few fights i have to spend like 435434 turns encamped to heal back up.
HALP
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>>173137735
Dominions 4
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>>173153967
remember that post tht explained how histfags would always be upset, no matter what?

Because if it's Warhammer, they'll hate it becaseu it's fantasy and if it's history they'll hate it because it is not their pet period of history.
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>>173151486
Nice
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>>173155037
merge and recruit new
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>>173155005
why should you have to micro a unit that is literally just a wall of spears
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>>173155005
I skipped Rome and Attila, so the last game I really played before Warhammer was Shogun 2. I'm not very familiar with CA's recent games personally because Rome and Attila didn't look really good. Mind you, in earlier Total War games I can't remember the lance formation actually being that useful; at least, I don't recall it doing much of anything in Medieval 2. Maybe I just didn't know how to use it properly.
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>>173155037
Merge and recruit new ones, this is repeated pretty regularly here. And you can both move and encamp too you know.
>>
>>173155037
Make friends with a viking, camp in their territory.

Get betrayed because a dwarf minor with a single city declares war on you and they don't want to join.

Give up on chaos.
>>
>>173155037
Well you could move em back to one of your allied awakened realms. If only they'd make your awakened tribes also colonize other areas than norsca.
>>
>>173155037
You gotta just merged the damaged ones and re-recruit. Unless you're in friendly Norsca you have terrible replentishment
>>
>>173155225
So basically, don't listen to /twg/ and suck.
>>
>>173155269
>Unless you're in friendly Norsca

How do you actually do chaos effectively without stomping and raiding the easy towns in norsca for at least the first 50 turns and awakening the 4 possible tribes.
>>
>>173127828
You gotta dress up as Karl Franz.
>>
>>173152234

>haha i'm an autistic sperg that cares too much about how others play their game

haha
>>
>>173155247
Norscan tribes don't get access to tier 5 buildings, so if they colonize a capital region in a non-Norscan province the game bugs out. Try it yourself. If you mix the Faction Unlocker with the Play Anyone mod and play as Norsca, if you take a capital region you can't upgrade the main building slot beyond level one and the province makes you no money and can produce no buildings
>>
>We're streaming today at 3PM BST
>No WARHAMMER II footage or gameplay yet, but we'll answer some FAQs

So was there any new info during the livestream? Or just stuff we already knew?
>>
>>173155406
By not stomping around Norsca for longer than it takes to leave only one tribe (usually Skaeling).
>>
>>173155197
you shouldn't but the benefit for just pressing a button on your screen is is grossly disproportionate to the no work needed to get it to work and again shield wall and phalanx were usable in mid combat which was fucking stupid and had little/no risk with too much reward
>>
>>173155406
Destroy your Maruader building and you can just grab the Warrior building real quick. From there you move into Kislev and buttfuck their low-tier armies. It is good to retreat into Norsca periodically and sack settlements for Yuge cash. It's also pretty easily to beat up either Skaeling or Varg really bad and make the other tribe friendly to you.
>>
>>173155187
>>173155210
>>173155225
>>173155247
>>173155269
Fug... i hate Norscans are unreliable pieces of shit, at least the chaos ground could fucking heal
REEEEEE
>>
>>173155638
That's why as soon as you Awaken a tribe you declare war on them immediately, buttfuck them again, and Subjugate them. The fact that Awakening a tribe makes them your ally rather than your vassal is really annoying.
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>>173155638
STOP BUNNY POSTING!
>>
>>173155771
Vassals can and do still break off on a whim
>>
>>173155836
Yeah but at least they won't declare war on each other like Allies do.
>>
>>173155771
I use http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=805036631 since it makes Norscans vassals instead of allies. Can't stand running around the north for ages sorting out the ones who declare war on each other.
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>replenish faster in allied territory than your own

not complaining I guess but seems odd,
>>
Well i'm done

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


I NEED MORE STUFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>173117551
play warhammer fantasy roleplay? if your into dnd and have freinds
>>
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> warhammer
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>>173156574
Old Friend should be announced soon. Can't remember when Brets were released but it was a while ago.
>>
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The fuck is this...
>>
>>173157086
>grey mountain dwarfs still cunts
>pope still catholic
>bears still shitting in woods
>histfags still whining
>>
The unit has suffered too many casualties and has been disbanded.
>>
>>173156574
Play some historical TW
>>
Guys can i actually check what difficulty i am playing on right now after i started the game?
>>
>>173157906
can you save manually? if yes, its the wrong difficulty
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Lads I hate to ask this, but does the campaign as Skarsnik get any less dull from here?
>>
>>173138870

not even trying to meme here, but explain how the fuck the british arriving nerfed the POO IN LOO plumbers? is this reality we are living in?

>>173139212
lel

>>173139327
sounds about right
>>
make a new threads you dumb animals
>>
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>>173157906
Difficulty doesn't matter when you're running THUNDERMANIA!
>>
>>173157906
Assuming you haven't changed it previously it'll be the same as the battle difficulty in campaign options.
>>
>>173155005
false, there are plenty of formations in Attila that are mobile and have both penalties and bonuses
>>
>>173158108
Only when you declare war at Durthu
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What the fuck? Thorgrim charged straight into the urki scum and personally killed dozens of them and this is what he gets? Fucking bullshit.
>>
>>173141087

SPARTA

WESTERN ROMAN EMPIRE

DWARVES
>>
>>173158221
>increased enemy hero success chance
I'd restart the campaign with grombrindal to be quite honest.
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>>173156771
> warhammer
>>
>>173158356
He's too easy. It's not fun when you can steamroll literally everything because you get an overpowered buff that turns your tier 1 units into tier 4.
>>
>>173145683

you shouldn't autoresolve anything below 50%

you should play out battles at 50%-65% if you are actually good you can do far better than autoresolve


autoresolve is for skipping battles where you have a doomstack attacking a garrison of 6 shit units or vice versa and you dont wanna waste time, not for skipping the game breh


into the book
>>
Bake new bread
>>
>>173146024

drive uber for literally 1 or 2 hours and you can get $30 and buy all the DLC

stop being a fucking poor nigger

if $18 is too much for a hobby you enjoy you are fucked
>>
>>173158854
don't be so rude to your customers, CA
>>
>>173158771
We won't anon.

This is the end times for us.
>>
>want to post a pic of my game
>dead thread and nobody's made a new one
>don't feel like posting it in a page 10 thread
>don't feel like remaking the thread
Oh well
>>
>>173150331

gotta keep trying for different factions and find one you like


try a hard one to keep you on your toes like angrund or some gobbo or pick some shit lord

get gud
>>
>want to bring Gelt back to Altdorf so I can recruit some level 12 wizards to help fuck shit up on that front
>he's currently in Mousillon and neighboring bourdeleuax hate me even though I destroyed Mousillon because I had to tresspass on their turf to do it
>they have no allies / relations and they are gonna declare war on me if I leave them so I HAVE to use Gelt to fuck their shit up really
>it's gonna be another 6 turns until I get awesome level 12 wizards on recruitment.

It's just annoying because I'll have to build a bunch now and disband & rerecruit them later to get more ranks.
>>
New thread
>>173159410
>>
>>173138218
Have a (you) Just because you are nice guy. :)
>>
>>173158108
...are you even trying to get Karak 8 peaks or no...
>>
Its so fucking easy to see what the next history title will be about
>Find a historian currently employed in CA
>check his expertise on his curriculum lattes

There
Done

And its going to be China btw
>>
>>173158961
You lied anon. Someon baked new bread.
>>
>>173160982
I'm a doomsayer not a fucking diviner.
>>
>>173154972
You're getting meme'd. Most of them are on the level of normal lords, and some are a bit weaker, not significantly, but a bit.
>>
>>173158727
What's he supposed to do if the battle crashes on load up you stupid moronic whore?
>>
>>173132898
Personally, I like to attack the Orc settlement first. If you go right after it, you should be able to beat them and end the rampaging greenskin threat. But I know some people prefer to let it happen so that way they get a free way to train their soldiers.

Either way, once you get your army recuperated and maybe give it a few more units, you're more or less ready to try and take on Marienburg. You will need their wealth to recruit your expensive cavalry units. How you go about it is up for debate - I prefer to attack Ghossel, draw the Marienburg army out, and attack them while they're in the field in Carroburg. That way they don't get the advantage of numbers from Marienburg's garrison, and good tactics should win the day. But if you're skilled enough, you could probably take on Marienburg outright while they're distracted, and leave Ghossel for later. Marienburg is usually eager enough to sue for peace if you want to leave them as a rump state.

After that, I feel the campaign tends to slow down. I don't enjoy expanding into Nordland or Middenland, so I tend to wait, confederate Dukedoms piecemeal-ly, and distract myself by occasionally fighting Mousilion or getting ready for the Northmen raiders. Problem with Mousilion is that they have such large armies, it's hard to actually beat them and take it.
>>
>>173133257
Tzeentch just has a ton of plots in motion to keep things happening, because more than anything else he is the Lord of Change.
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>>173157086
>Geltdorf
Majestic
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