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Burning

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>mfw it was a honey pot all along

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Cya soon ;__;

wenger out

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Burning is in the newspaper !

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>>173028351
B神万岁~

Videogames are a waste of time and degenerates your mind

>>173028287
things in the meta will be changed, pocket picks will not. if they suddenly ran lycan safelane or ench mid or something, obviously that isnt going to get nerfed in the next minipatch

what do you get from OG this tournament? they played nothing but illusion heroes. that tells you fucking nothing about anything else they are capable of doing. they've won almost every major leading up to kiev, they are obviously skilled enough to do it again, the biggest determining factor going in is how much homework you can do on teams during DAC. with OG you are given barely anything to work with, especially considering naga is going to get one illusion removed and alch is going to see either a CD increase or HP regen change on his ult, maybe acid spray damage nerf as well, etc.

again, dont really have any feelings on OG one way or another, just thinking out loud if they perhaps did not try as hard as they were capable of doing

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>b-but muh HONEYPOT! -every d2g poster

So we gotta wait a month for the next tournament. Meanwhile CS has 10 events a month

is it just me or has sumail been really underwhelming recently

>>173028385
damm, chink runes are hard to understand

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nth for the one and only B GOD

What's next for OG?

>>173028225
illusion spam means alot of things
octarine core makes your manta cooldown ridicules

>have an escape on the go
>can scout everywhere
>can push creepwaves without having to move outside your side of the map
>have ridicules GPM while still having time to smoke and make plays, not having to trade farm time for gank time
>is really hard for enemy carry to hit a single target in the heat of the moment
>zones out supports
>cancel blinks

OG.Singsing

>600,000 first prize
No, retard. It's a prize pool which means it's split between placements. First place got 40%, so like 200k. They only managed to raise an extra 100 on top of the 500 initial.
DAC really is kind of chump change compared to majors.

>Europe, Na, and China now united in their hatred of OG
>even in the honeyest of honeypots, honeylans can do nothing but feed
>like literally incapable of playing heroes that actually need to be near opponents
>backstabs incoming
>lelouch working triple time with damage control

Today was a good day for based OGhaters

>>173028420
Objectively true, this game has ruined my life, thankfully I don't play it anymore just watch

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happy for burning desu

>>173028289

Even Zai said rtz was right about Kuroky being a toxic manlet at Team Secret.

There's a FREE last place awaiting Liquid at Kiev.

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>>173028427
Remember when there was an eizo cup every weekend for kaipi to win it

Those were the days

OG.RTZ

WHATS THE NAME OF THE SONG THAT WAS JUST ON? PLEASE GUYS

>>173028434
I might cry if burning wins a TI

>>173028472
Majors are chump change compared to TI
This is probably the most prestigious tournament after any major 2bh, because it basicallly is a major but without the name due to Valve being scared of another 2016 Shanghai

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What's his end game?

is miracle gonna replace rtz when he moves to og?

>>173028506
apparently matumbaman fell into a bout of depression during DAC and nobody could rouse him

perhaps a rumour to help justify their poor placing, but they went in being favourites to place grand finals. might be some truth to it as matu's play was fairly lackluster, lots of changing drafts and positions due to lack of confidence/desire to play a certain role

>>173028572
killing pendragon to death

At least OG is loveable and has a soul, that's something money will never buy

>>173028545
Its the first track of
Merzbow - pulse demon

>>173028590

It was actually Miracle tilting because teams banned his invoker. Fly said in an interview he's someone who needs tender treatment. This is why they resorted to GH mid in a pinch.

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>no ameriniggers
>no eurokeks
>no mudslimes

Best tournament since 2003.

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这次真的还可以 原先根本没想过IG能夺冠
TI见

>No Mason

honeypot lan desu enjoy the win chinks and yurotrash

We will probably see a balance patch before Kiev and then a major patch before ti.
There's only some shitter masters and epicenter which is basically like dac, kiev is the last serious tournament before ti.

>>173028572
>implying he's even still working on the game

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>tfw burning won

>>173028634
;))
I found the song anyway

>>173028648
their team lacks experience, and the hardening to choke that it provides. miracle and matu are still just beginning their professional careers, and are both obviously extremely individually skilled. nothing wrong with being an emotional player, but you arent going to reach dendi levels of emotional flatline inside of a high-pressure match overnight

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>>173028303
*roots you for 3.5 seconds at level 1*

>>173028569
No shit majors are chump change compared to ti but they are they are the only serious money for the rest of the year.

have n0tail actually carry his team once?

now what? i feel lonely again

>>173028690
>icefrog will not touch burning's LS and boboka's MK

wait, OG went out 0-3? what a letdown...

>>173028813
i dun care about LS
fking nerf that stupid monkey

For some reason I don't think alch is op at all. Just decent. Why are ppl on Reddit so bad at dota2 ?

So OG is just a major specialist?

>All of these newfags favoring HoNtrash over the face of Chinese Dota

Burning is the eastern equivalent of Dendi
He deserved this LAN and hoping he gets a respectable place in Kiev

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btw the last song is 奔跑-羽泉

See you next time western trash ~

>>173028898
i think he is but one of the main reasons is he can just walk down supports 16 mins in

>>173028956
I hope the rest of the Chinese old guard comes back.

OG will win Kiev and lost early at TI again. I'm pretty confident about this.

>>173028608
>HoNtrash
>soul

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>>173028980
DELET THIS
I-IT WAS A H-HONEYPOT ANYWAY

>>173028403
are u a faggot?

>>173028901
unless there is a massive balance patch, I think their only strat has been figured out and they are very prone to being picked apart now.

>>173028898

Alch isn't OP, he's a gold sponge some teams forgot how to play against.

The problems are lina, jugg, magnus and kang

>>173028768
Think I remember a TB game or something once, but can't be sure tb h

>>173029093

I think Lina is broken because of 99% uptime, that's actually retarded

>>173029154

>99% uptime

not if ur sumail

What would you like to see in the rebalancing patch pre-kiev?

>naga
2 illusions, 25 talent changed to +2 illusions

>alch
increased CD on ult on first two levels, lower the armour reduction on acid spray

>monkey kang
3s cd on his tree jump, 1.4s is far too short for what it offers
perhaps reducing bonus damage on his ult

>TB
reduce %dmg and slow on refraction mirrors at early levels

>lifestealer
either reduce attackspeed on rage, or make the lifesteal of open wounds scale up to 50%/taper off with the slow

>earth spirit
increase remnant recharge to 45s. he is bullshit able to do everything 3 heroes combined, but the fact that he is able to do it no matter how often he roams is bullshit. make them either wait for rocks, or push them around after use

>kotl
increase chakra magic CD by 3s. able to farm quickly while providing excellent utility, increased CD forces him to give up some of his speedy clearing and assisting allies in exchange for how useful he is after aghs

>jugg
increase healing ward to 175 mana

>pugna
increase night vision to 1200

>brew
earth spirit bonus tower damage rescaled to 100/150/200% instead of flat 300%

tfw magnus is the most comfy hero to play because all you need is brown boots, blink dagger, and your r and w keys

>>173028956
That's like saying Loda deserves a win just because he still plays, Burning has honestly been pretty shit for a long time now but still good to see him actually play well.

>>173029093
>kang
In what way?

They should just make radiance not work with illusions.

>>173029092
Meh. Not even an OG fan but it is actually feasible they retained strats for Kiev. Even first place at DAC isn't worth top 3 in Kiev.

>>173029245
>in what way
Are you retarded? Its es with mobility

>>173029286

Based OG fan

>>173029243
Loda already has a TI m8
He can do whatever he wants now

>>173029307
you say that, but they've been playing this exact same strat for a lot longer than just dac.

>>173028901
no, honeypot specialist
majors just happens to be the biggest one around

>>173029245

Undetectable roaming & flying vision, stun, free teamfights with ulti especially once he has basher.

Even if OG lost that last game with him he's still going to need a nerf.

>>173029314
Still lost to iG

>>173029286
wtf, i need to masturbate to ponies now

>>173029305

That is effectively arguing for the removal of all illusion heroes. Because PL, CK, and Spectre don't really benefit from radiance at all (or Spectre as much as Naga or Alc) and they are bottom tier trash.

>>173029224
I love how invoker keeps escaping people's lists. Empower needs to be nerfed on mag, same dmg now for self buff but maybe half dmg increase for other heroes.

>>173029386
wait aren't ponies banned

>>173029417
>same dmg now for self buff but maybe half dmg increase for other heroes

If anything you need to reverse this. Magnus is so stupid because he literally gets his items at the same time every game regardless of how often he is ganked because empower lets him waveclear faster than any carry in the game, and also serves as an extreme damage amp.

He should be a big ult mid, not a GoodSven, GoodVoid, GoodJug, etc.

>>173029408
>CK
>Radiance
Actually that's not terrible, just not common.

>>173029408
There's nothing wrong with turning some of the heroes into trash. It's time for a new, more interesting meta.

>>173029517
t. lol balance team

When will they buff Bloodseeker?

>>173028434

I'm sorry burning, but boboka is the new B GOD

What changes MK needs are a combination of:

1. Turned into ranged hero
2. Can't cast any spell while in a tree except Primal Spring (and tree dance)
3. Reduced vision while in trees (similar to batrider)

Anything else is giving the game another bristleback/razor.

>>173029517
riot games get out

>>173029224
>magnus
empower CD to 15s
skewer manacost to 100
distance starts at 500 and scales to 1200, forces to either max empower for carry, or max skewer to be able to pick off supports instead of nudge them a few feet

>lina
respawn time talent replaced with +50 day vision or some other equally trivial bullshit
ult CD increased 10s all ranks

>furion
treants reduced to 30s cd, manacost reduced to 100/110/120/130

>veno
hero poison attack works on towers at 50% effect and duration

>dragon kang
breathe fire reduced to 100 mana all ranks
during ult his passive is double as effective
25 talent or aghs is perma dragon form

>abaddon
buff/debuff duration reduced by 0.5s
ult CD increased by 10s

>>173029591
I don't know how you would effectively other than stat tweaks and buffing travel damage on rupture without doing another rework on his abilities.

I actually think he's not that bad, people just don't know how to use him in this meta. He's actually really good against monkey Kang and monkey Kang strats with his AOE silence.

make radiance on illusions do less damage and not disable blink

>>173029498
nerf his empoer to irrelevance means you need to nerf axe call to not pierce bkb

the fact that axe gets RP on a 10s cooldown while magnus has it on a 120s cooldown means that magnus needs to have something unique. that something is enabling his carry to have a free battlefury + venge aura

still makes me laugh all the "axe is the worst hero" posting for fucking YEARS before somebody realized that call is actually GoodMagnus, and he has never been bad ever since despite continuous nerfs

>>173029635
>Drow now buffs Kang
No thanks. Really the cd on getting into trees needs raised, moving around in them can stay the same.

>>173029854
raise the CD between jumping through trees to 2s or 3s

HOWEVER,
if he is stunned while in a tree, he should be knocked down. this bullshit of throwing a stun at him while he jumps into a tree, only to watch him quickly hop away, is complete bullshit. he doesnt need to be stunned for any time extra, but if he gets stunned he should drop to the ground

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>survive a 4 man gank by making sick jukes and surviving with 30 hp
>heart starts pounding like i just ran a marathon
fucking dota

>>173029854
A better solution would be to tie the cd of his W to his E. No more hyper-mobility.

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>>173028692
>he still believes in a Benevolent Frog
Literally everyone, including redditors from /r/dota2, agree that the game has changed its nature, the latter just consider it good changes.
Why do you assume Icefrog has your and Dotard's best interests in mind?

Is there anyone who actually like OG here?

>>173030080
h0neylan shills

>>173029224
Broodmother needs a fucking remake holy shit.

She's been dogshit for what, two years now? Three? Whenever that patch that increased the bounty on spiderlings hit.

>>173030080
lelouch

Just woke up, when does our guy Artour play?

>>173029408
Honestly there are too many illusion heroes. Some of them deserve to be reworked. Specifically Naga.

>>173030080
Jerax and s4 are the only likable players of OG and are currently carrying it
Fuck the other 3 theyre overrated shit

>wake up
>its already over
fuck you

>>173030206
Broods another hard to tweak hero without changing core abilities, even now against certain lineups she's fucken cancer.

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>>173029224
1. Music now changed to "siege" when there is more than 3 heroes of either side near a tower

2. Change hit sound on towers to something that encourages hitting it

3. Very triumphant music if siege is repelled(defenders) or won by either side

Just think of how much popular SNY got when Sange got a wood breaking sound on maim.
Please fucking do the same for PURSUING THE OBJECTIVE.

>>173030206
She keeps changing tier depending on if aoe clear is a part of the meta, and all change to Stout/Poor Mans/Vanguard/Crimson Guard.

>>173029821
>>173029498
Magnus RP is very big, pierces BKB, is a hard disable, repositions(call doesn't reposition changed heroes), the effects of the spell doesn't match the actual AoE.

>>173030080
I liked them before that disastrous grand finals. Honeypot or not, it was embarrassingly bad.

>>173029821

Axe is a mediocre hero.

Magnus had the highest pick/ban rate and 60% winrate at DAC.

Axe had a 50% winrate and over 5x lower pick/ban rate than Magnus

>>173030680
axe maybe a mediocre hero but he sure is gay as fuck to play against, especially when he geta abyssal

>>173029385
So did alch and tb, whats your point then?

>>173030680
>Axe is a mediocre hero
Top kek
Magnus has a higher pick rate because of empower and jug picks.

>>173030680
Axe and Magnus do different things.
They are used differently.
They farm different items beyond Blink Dagger.
Their skillsets isn't really comparable.

>>173030610
Wait why are norwegians under Brittain? we've never been ruled by them or anything of the sort.

>>173030880
lol dude they both have aoe disables, literally same hero

og is going to be rolled over at kiev now that they're exposed

why did they even show up to this honeylan?

>>173030918
Its a trade thing.
And 25 years later they mined the Norse coast with mines, just to be dicks.
Then again, you might not be aware of the events of 1915 to know what the spider represents beyond being a Anglo Imperialist.

Based B-god shitting all over western gwailo's lives.

After DAC he hopped in his Porsche and got head from a model while you sat at home watching him embarrass your "best" teams before jerking off to cartoon porn.

Laughing at your lives. Based B-god.

>>173030863

>higher pickrate because of empower
>a hero has higher pickrate and winrate because he is better

What did he mean by this?

>>173030880
There's no situation in this patch in which you'd rather pick Axe than Magnus as evidenced by Axe's p/b rate. Empower works on every melee carry & probably lina as well, Magnus has safer farm and a laning escape before he gets a blink too.

>>173031050
>There's no situation in this patch in which you'd rather pick Axe than Magnus
If you want Empower, you wouldn't pick Magnus instead of Axe.
If you want Culling Blade or Battle Hunger, you wouldn't pick Magnus.

>>173031050
axe is far more better than magnus in pubs of all skill levels tho
heck axe hovers at 53-55% wr while magnus sits at only 45-47%

>>173030772
That anon said alch isn't OP.

>>173031050
No, you fucking mouth breather, he was picked in conjunction with jug in like 80% of the times Magnus was picked, he was literally only picked because jug was picked and in other games it was picked to stop the jug Magnus combo.

Whatever faggot I bet you are one of those people that judge heroes off pub win rates too.

Why didn't they just ban Magnus?

>>173031295

You absolute mongoloid, jugg had a 40% winrate in total (compared to Magnus' 60%) and a lower p/b rate than Magnus too. Jugg is dependant on Magnus to shine, not vice versa.


>>173031198
And imagine you're the captain of a pro team. In what situation would you want culling blade or battle hunger instead of empower given the current patch?

What 2 mid tier items should be unnecessarily combined to make a god tier item like hurricane pike or bloodthorn?

>>173031423
They fell for the "-30s rt Lina is good" meme

>>173031512
the culling blade speedboost is pretty good desu
never since empower is fucking broken

>>173031512
Lmao you are a slope browed cunt.

>>173030949
axe does more damage by himself, but is unable to buff his teammates, magnus does not do as much damage by himself (unless farmed for some meme carry magnus, but that aside), but he can buff up his teammates. So, if your other cores can scale well and do a lot of damage, magnus is better, if your cores do not scale very well (early game lineup perhaps) then axe is better

t. 2k mmr

>>173031630
>replying seriously to a shitpost

But Axe is much harder to kill! That balances it out.

>decide to return to ranked after a year of unranked
>it's worse than I remember it

Went solo safelane Nightstalker because of last pick jungle NP who rushed linkens and farmed another 7 minutes before fighting.
Won lane hard as fuck because it was solo Jugg who couldn't last hit. Literally denied the entire first creepwave from him, he didn't even try to trade.

He had a 40% winrate over the last month. 4.5k mmr 2 months ago. 2.7mmr now. He rushed a lindens for some reason. How can you be that terrible at dota?

>tfw life is meaningless once again till kiev

>>173031882
it's a purchased account

>>173031882
>playing ranked if youre 4k
not worth the effort of trying to climb to 5k

NERF RIKI
BUFF ALCHEMIST

FUCK CHINA
BOBO OG

Post great carries I'll start

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>>173032096
>buffing alchemist
why not buff invoker too while were at it you faggot

>>173031029
Nah I'm not too familiar with the spider, but I do remember the mines and bombing of Narvik

>>173031958
Thanks Sherlock never would have guessed. Even still, how can you be that bad at dota.

>>173032017
All of my ranked games have been shitshows. Unranked is just more fun in every way except the Slark pickers. I play against high 4ks and occasionally low 5k in unranked though so I figured I'd raise my mmr some.

>>173032165
I play against 5k's in unranked too but ranked is just such a fucking slog to go through, booster/boosted shitter every fucking game, not to mention some retard throwing a shitfit and feeding 4/10 games, that number is like 2/20 in unranked for me

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>>173032130

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>>173032130

>>173032254
Yeah it's weird as fuck. More supports in unranked too.

More chinks on US servers ranked or unranked. Where'd they all come from? They didn't used to be on US east much at all, now I see at least one every game.

>>173032448
cant relate to the chink problem m8, i only have to deal with russians on the ea servers and occasional roach once in a year

What if riot was in charge of balancing heroes?

>>173032549
every hero gets atleast 2 dashes and a free blinkdagger, 4k hp axe with 60 armor gets 1 shotted by crystal maiden

>>173032549
Magnus' empower can no longer be cast on allies, only works on the next 3 attacks and has a 14 second cd

>>173032629
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>173032549
all ultis have a 200-300s cooldown

>Look at DAC
>IG manages to beat OG 3-0, probably to the rage of EU panderers

Is it time to diss OG again? Is it just me or they perform less well against Asian teams

>>173032917

The very second its up to notail to carry the team because ana is either tilting or being shit on, OG "suddenly" collapses. This has happened every single time.

You could probably put a bot in Notail's spot and the team would perform about as well. The weak link on the team is that lelouch fag baiting piece of shit Notail

>>173032917
I'd save the diss for after they don't win TI7.

>>173032917
wait for them to win kiev and place low in TI
just like last year

What happened to Wings after TI6?

>>173033327
ti curse

>>173032549
BKB removed from the game, changed to a 1000 magic damage absorb shield that does not stack with pipe of insight
All forms of spell immunity changed to shields of the same sort

>>173032917
This si nothing new, OG choke on finals quite a bit. Remember Summit 6? Fitjew gave jerax pudge into Ramzes lifestealer

>>173032391
when will we see him on pro scene?

>>173032549
We'd get Banner of Command which would actually be a neat item. In dota terms I'd imagine it be somewhere along these lines

>Melee creep
+500 hp
+60 damage
+20 armor
20hp regen
20% lifesteal aura

>Ranged
+300hp
+100 damage
+10 armor
10 regen
+20% damage aura

>siege
+300hp
+40 damage
+50 attack speed
+20 armor
+200 range

>Watch DAC
>Get hyped to play the game again
>reinstall
>start game
>3.5k
>it's shit
>uninstall
Every fucking time, I hate fucking shitskins

>>173034119
ooga booga

Unpicked heroes in DAC
>Huskar
>Pugna
>Skywrath Mage
Heroes that didn't win any games
>Razor
>Shadow Shaman
>Lich
>Zeus
How do we fix these heroes?

watching vods here, s4 just jaunted into a smokescreen
lmao

>>173034316

>Pugna
Quas is currently BadLiquidFire, BadFlameBreath
Wex is currently BadGhostShroud
Exort is an actual ability
Invoke is BadSoulSiphon

>>173034316
There was a natures prophet win?

>>173034119
unga bunga caveman sounds

I have an idea. Radiance should work with illusions but ONLY if the illusions isn't naturally from the hero itself.

>>173034763
Why you want sd every game

>>173034712
>>173034203
>shitskins

>>173034316
Increase Huskar's initial strength and gain.

>>173034763

You don't have to be heavy handed in such an obtuse way. You could just make manta not have its CD reduced by ANYTHING - arcane runes or octarine.

>>173034619
Liquid won with it in group stages

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>tfw still 5k

>>173035000

based ixmike

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>>173032549
every disable duration halved since being disabled is not fun, bkb removed
mechanics like heals, mana burns, invisibility and rupture are nerfed heavily or removed since they are toxic
almost every item active removed with their stat buffed instead, having more than four buttons to press is too hard
every hero that has more than one unit to control reworked (since micro is too complex for average player), heroes streamlined in general to be more similar to each other
supports get free gold for jerking off in vicinity of their carry, since just jerking off in the lane doesn't feel rewarding

>play SD
>get mag
>teammate picks Nyx
>k we already have an offlaner so I guess I'll roam or something
>late game
>ah yes, the old dagon5 build against Husk and Pudge with a pipe
The moment of inspiration from DAC I got to play dota has quickly died down again. See ya next major I guess.

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Remember earlier this year when you bought this on everyone?

>tfw no esports

>>173028303
ANA IN CHARGE OF NOT BEING A SHITTER LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>173035976
>tfw biggest stellaris update since it launch in two days

Kick Ana, hire RTZ

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Singsing is streaming dotards

>>173036123
Stream your butthole you sissy boy

>>173036108
there are simpler ways to disband, anon

>>173036123

party queue :(

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What do you guys think about crimson guard? I don't see it built often, and I don't really build it much myself, but it really worked well in a game where I was bh against a pl.

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>>173036149
wtf

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Is it 'Dotards' or 'Doturds'?

>>173036252
great item, not that great buildup
it also good against heroes with critical strikes (since crit multiplier applies after damage block) and push strats

>>173036326
Do it, I want to see your adelaid butthole

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What's the verdict on armlet on LC?

Blade Mail seems so much better, but

>>173036489
>since crit multiplier applies after damage block

What? Since when?

>>173034316
give huskar back his 99% magic resist at 1hp

>esports is over

Now what?

>>173037210
Leave the general until Kiev

>>173034316
pretty sure enchanress chen and bloodseeker werent picked

>>173037210
leave this general. i only come during esports. rest of the time is just 2k and ooga booga posting

Who should be the next overpowered hero?

>>173036860
since forever duh
i wouldn't be surprised if it was like that in wc3

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>kiev major
>2 teams invited for america
>6 european players
>2 canadian players
>1 muslim player
>1 (one) usa player

is "NA" dota dead?

>>173037486
>USA player is a shitskin
>Canadian players are Asian

Nice diversity

>>173037486
that only "usa" player is indian ethnicity too

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>>173037451
Where do you even find information like this? I only know what's written on the game's gamepedia page.

>>173037486
There was never any NA dota to begin with. They just steal players from other regions.

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>>173037486
holy shit I just realized NP isn't even qualified and one of the qualified american teams is a huestack

OG.Suma1l
fixed

>>173037671
If that shitter or rtshit ever come to OG I'm done with dota

>>173032549
For each creep killed within a 900 unit radius of a support hero, the support hero is awarded with a static 5 reliable gold. Does not count for creeps killed by the support.

>>173037671
Isn't he just a worse miracle?

>>173037634
Not him but wiki, yeah.. Wiki provides a shitton of information about everything, even when you go to the crit section, it says that crit damage is applied after reductions

>>173037767
>he doesn't want a reliable mid
come on now lelouch
>>173037812
have you seen miracle lately? He's nowhere as good as before

>>173037634
i heard that from one of the purge videos
i decided to check wiki just in case and it looks like he was wrong
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Attack_damage#Final_attack_damage
what the fuck kevin

>>173037995
>He's nowhere as good as before
But they kicked miracle out when he was good.

>>173036763
Armlet is literally viable on any right click focused STR hero.

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I didn't know AM even had a real counter until i saw AM vs Meepo.

Is there any offlane hero that can win against am in lane?

>>173038540
Void

>>173038540
huskar
syllabear
furion

>>173038337
Why do you say they kicked him? I always was under the impression miracle left deluded with all the memery about him being some kind of demigod and the retards spamming how he carried n0tail before it was proven to be the opposite.

>>173038540
Axe is always the answer

>>173038908
What if Axe is the question though?

You can't pick Axe to counter Axe

OG.SingSing

>>173038961
AXE

>>173038891
>retards spamming how he carried n0tail before it was proven to be the opposite.

Not quite, NoLans is a completely unremarkable carry who pretty much anyone could replace.

He's riding on the coat tails of far superior players, Fly deserves the credit for OG's success.

>>173038891
>it was proven to be the opposite
This is a lie.

>>173038540
Doom, Sand King, Dark Seer

AM isn't that good in lane.

>>173037812
how many TI's have Miracle won?

>>173039304
Miracle had shit teammates. It's not a comparable situation.

>>173038513
>Who is
>axe
>lc
>pa
>tb

>>173037671
>Implying Sumail will go to a Jew because of his religion

Fat chance m8
Muslims hates Jews as much as Nazis

>>173039304
Dendi won one and finished 2nd twice. Clearly Dendi is the best player in the world.

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>>173039270
>AM isn't that good in lane.

Yes he is, most heroes can't trade with him because of mana break and an early point in spell shield gives him significant durability against nukes.

>>173039270
AM is one of the strongest dark seer counters in the lane dudester
just jump on him every time he gets close to creeps and burn his mana and he will do nothing to you
if there is one more hero with dark seer then yeah, it could be a problem

>>173038540
Axe, centaur, lc
Timber is kind of even

>>173039521
nothing before TI4 matters. Sumail won it just 2 years ago, and he's still the best player on EG despite RTZ&Cr1tcucks trying to scapegoat someone else

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will we ever get ragdolls, dotards?

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>troll builds vlads
>lose
WHO STARTED THIS SHITTY MEME BUILD
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

>>173039597
>nothing before TI4 matters
>making up arbitrary rules to back up your claim

>>173039597
>nothing before TI4 matters
?

>>173039597
Nothing before TI6 matters. Faith_bian is the best player in the world.

>>173039657
hope not

>>173039657
>Wanting mores ways to fuck up performance

Ok m8 as if kangs ult was bad enough
Plus its convenient for the lore to have disintegrating bodies because of ancient magic bullshit

>>173039662
it was rtz
dude free +15% damage lmao

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>>173039826
FUCKIN WASHED UP UZBEK SHITTER

Okay it doesn't matter who's good. The question is, who is worse, notail or rtz?

>>173039565
How do you play Dark Seer exactly?

>soul ring and tango
>apply shell when your creeps are marching down the lane, hide in the trees, dance around
>apply new shell
>*last hit sounds*

That was hard

>>173039951
notail worse in terms of individual skill
rtz worse in terms of not slowly eroding from inside team he is currently on

Why do we hate notail again?

https://twitter.com/OG_BDN0tail/status/849244016533045248

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>wake up
>3-0
you'd think China would script it 3-2

>>173039951
>notail
>been on the same team where everyone has changed except him and fly and still has been winning consistently

>rtz
>hoping from team to team, when he gets on a team it turns to shit and the team stops winning despite being a huge favorite

One is a world class player, hated by d2g because of his success. The other is a world class team destroyer, hated by d2g because reddit likes him.

>>173040005
>kill ion shell'd creep first

wow dude

>>173040390
By the time he's hitting that creep u cast another shell.

>>173037248
pretty sure you're wrong.
bloodseeker was played in game 2 of eg ig.v groups, lost.
enh was played by np against ig.v in game 1 groups, won.
chen was picked by wings vs empire in game 1 of groups. won.

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This is the most tilting item in Dota

Going from 30 to 13 charges because you get ganked twice is actually the worst

>>173039521
At his peak, Dendi was one of the best players in the world, on one of the best teams in the world. The same goes for Xboct, Kuro, all the old Na'Vi players except maybe Puppey. That's all a TI win means, at one point in time, you were a member of one of the best teams in the world. No professional team that makes it as far as TI grand finals, or semifinals for that matter, can have a weak likn, as they would have been defeated long before that. Morons saying rtz needs to be kicked from EG, or n0tail from OG clearly don't understand how those teams work.

>>173040215
>angrycryingmanwearinga:^)mask.jpg

>>173037486
>retards think americans must be white
killll yourselffffff

>>173040215
i dont hate anyone on OG its just boring to see them win everything

>>173040382
>OG is the best team in dota I swear
>REEEEE KICK ANA AND NOTTAIL
>It's scripted, ther's no way soulless chinks could beat the combined power of discount kpii and n0lans
og fans actually believe this

>>173040623

do you even have a single neuron inside your head?

universe is brown

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>>173040562
RTZ is the Ibrahimovic of DOTA.

Winning team joiner, whiney as fuck cancer for team morale, entitled diva, stomps baddies, and a perennial choker/tilter against good teams.

>>173040816
comically missing the point as usual, gulagite.

>>173040839
but da boiz xdd

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>enemy picks nature's nigger and clinkz
>pick techies
>spend all game playing tower defense
>win because 4v3

>>173040867
comically missing how your """""comical"""" implication doesn't make sense

>>173034316
>>Zeus
fucking rain drops

>>173029224
i want the two cheese strats taken out, alacrity on brewmaster earth panda and weaver agh's 16 second cooldown.

>>173040839
If rtz is so bad, then why is eg so good? You can't compare rtz to a typical safelane carry like u9 or matumbaman or whoever, because its part of their fundamental team strategy to put more pressure on rtz and free up sumail too make the big plays, hence why they constantly put him on heroes that are less greedy like lifestealer and venge when carry venge was fotm.

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>>173034316
those are from all games by the way, quals, which were held during 7.01 and 7.02, included
list is much bigger if you count only lan part

Relax guys it's fucking DAC. $250,000 is chump change for these guys.
This was just practice and they'll bring their best strats in Kiev.

>>173041128
Make weaver aghs 18 sec cooldown and unusable on the same person twice in a row

>>173041324
>then why is eg so good
one of the best support players in the world secures kills and farm for sumail every fucking game. they also draft cancer.

>>173041324
Except picking less greedy carries and putting the weight on the mid is done plenty of top teams and it does stop their carries being good. If you want an example just look at burning right now

>>173041401
>og now avoids the honeypots

yuropoors are appropriating our excuses as well?

>>173041401
this reason always shows up when EG/OG loses a lan, why is that and how come no chink ever uses that reason to bullshit their way out? So much for NA EU shit flinging when you both use the same reason when you lose

>>173041558
>>173041590
Normally I wouldn't use it but it's obvious every team is still coming to terms since 7.00 and MK. They're getting the hang of it and you could see the meta developing throughout the tournament.

anyone else buying tickets

Looking back, xss was the fucking boss of IG. He almost carried all of their sorry asses in most matches, even the Magnus game where he has to pick the best solo RP with all the cancerous illusion and Radiance spam

>>173041690
not knowing strats is quite different from saving strats

it is obvious the chinese are way ahead of the west in drafting this patch

>>173042059
ok

>>173041401
>reveal best strats at a honeypot
>when ti is just around the corner

>>173041754
Dont need to buy when valve gives me vip

>>173041754
I would but no special package like last year so not worth

>>173042160
bruno come back to the casting scene....p-please

>>173042059
His magnus was GOAT. He was doing shit in the group stage so everyone banned mag against them but I guess OG forgot how good he was or prioritized other heroes to ban against IG.

>>173041510
In grand finals, Burning got put on a spectre and a jugg, two fairly greedy carries

>3-0 IG
good fuck that faggot notail

>>173041754
nah
would be sent back
because I'm NEET
happened to my brother who was in Uni at the time even
somehow if you don't have a job you're there to become an illegal even tho you're from a western euro country
really fires up my neurons

>>173042515
>jugg
>greedy

jugg couldnt be any further than a "greedy" carry, his kit is perfect for this meta

>blink into Smokescreen as Puck
>Centaur again blinking into Smokescreen
>Axe always late for initiation which lead to NoBrain to die earlier than expected

S4 choke was real back then

>>173042624
>jugg has been constantly meta since 6.83
>never got any substantial nerfs
>boring as fuck retard proof hero
Really makes me think which kind of audience valve caters to.

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Just got back from work
how did my main man B-dawg do in the chinkternational finals?

>>173042879

Jugg and Lifestealer being the main safelane choices in a meta should be a red alert for everyone who wants to see decent games.

>>173042879
which is hilarious because before 6.83 the narrative was that jugg was shit and people cried how the face of dota 2 wasnt even meta

>get invited to one of the biggest non-valve tournament with best teams in the world
>stomp everyone in group stage
>stomp everyone in main event
>choke once in grand final and get second place
>waaaah h0neylan kick when
>waaah anatism kick when
>waaaaaaah choke4 kick when
come on guys, i'm not an OG fan but you are just pathetic

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The fuck is the meaning of this?

Less than 3 weeks away and still no info on how it's structured or the day it actually starts?

>>173043218
i wouldn't be surprised if valve just forgot to announce it

>>173043218
the group stage will follow the format of all the other majors.

round robins take too much time

>the face of dota 2
>doesn't have a face

This is top level poetry. Even Valve knew from the beginning there was no hope for dota.

>>173043218
Be real here: how does not knowing these things more than a week or so ahead of time negatively impact you?

>>173037646
It's straight out of the Yankees playbook. Steinbrenner would be proud.

>>173043054
he became xboct without the feeding

>>173043321
M-Muh E-Sports!!!!!

>>173043054
b emperor is back

>>173043321
why the fuck wouldn't you announce it? is it really that hard to do you fucking autistic idiot

I know you have no live and it's hard the understand for you but maybe I want to take some days off from work to enjoy the groupstage at home and I can't wait until the last week to tell my boss

I HATE CHINA SO MUCH

>>173043514
are you the type of faggot to take time off work for a vidya game release?

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>>173043514
>i know you have no life
>proceeds to explain how his obsession with digital sports is so deep he is opting to miss work

>>173040839
>Manure
>Winning

Even Wonga is way better than the absolute shitshow Manure has been showing us since Fergie retired

>>173043307
Are you retarded? Not all Majors had the same format. Yes they've all had the same group stage but the bracket was different in Boston.

>>173043514
>thinking having a job correlates with having a life
another deluded wagecuck getting outed by NeEt0

>ana was seen almost crying prior to the final game of the series because he found out after game 2 that his [parent] was in a car crash
>there wasnt intended to be a break between the games, they wanted to give ana some time to see if he'd like to continue the series, or if, out of respect, he would want 7ckngmad to step in for him

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>>173029224
Make Doom not utter dogshit

Melee attack ranged buffed to 200.

The ult now has Break by default.
New aghs: Doom now bypasses everything including Spellblock, Echo Shell, and Anti-mage's aghs.

Talent Tree
Level 20
>Permanently restores 1% of his max HP per second.
>Doomed targets are have their movement speed slowed by 15%.

Level 25
>Devour Ancients retained
>Infernal Blade is now applied to all enemy units in a 150 AoE around the main target.

>>173044387
damn son

>>173044387
source?

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What did I miss from DAC?

ok which one of you was it that called lina the better ld one month ago
give yourself a pat on the back

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>>173044438
>doom gets in meta again
>nerfed to shit in next two or three patches again
>ult now has five minutes cooldown
they should make ult dispellable, reduce it duration and cooldown and give significant buffs to his other spells and/or stats
also aghs should make it undispellable in addition to break effect

>>173044882
S4 choked, Ana cried, Notail fed and died

>cast ww's ult on the enemy support who's surrounded by the phantom assassin and slark
>count my fucking blessings that the support died instantly from a PA crit and ended the ult's effects early because my team forgot how nerfed the ability is and started tossing all their shit


sweating bullets sometimes with this shit

>>173044387
what? sauce?

>>173044438
How to fix doom:
Scorched Earth no longer has a regen component.
Instead, Scorched Earth steals 50% of the healing and regeneration of enemy units in the AoE.

>Chinese winning ti this year again

>>173045198
>nerfing doom even more

>>173044821
>>173045125
was on weibo from a stage worker of at DAC
I think they made him take it down, because nobody was told other than OG

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>>173045198
>nerfing main point of his relevance in early game

>>173044882
>EE and Miracle BTFO
>Miracle BTFO by Paparazzi
>EG BTFO by Newbeee due to Cr1t's draft and RTZ
>OG has an unbeaten streak (wins and ties) before the finals
>Based Burning wrecks Newbee
>Based Burning destroys OG while ana,s4, and nolan choked

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HOW TO FIX DOOM
>BAT REDUCED TO 1.6
>ULT DURATION REDUCED TO 10 SECONDS BUT IT APPLIES BREAK AND CAST TIME REDUCED TO 0.3
BAM DOOM IS VIABLE

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IG post-DAC interview

>You got 0-2'd by OG and then 3-0'd them, how do you feel about it?
>Burning: Feels like they only play a few heroes, just ban them.

>>173045537
the chinks really don't hold back

>>173045405
uhhh screenshot or fake and gay

>>173045487
He doesnt need 1.6, standard 1.7 would be fine. His current 2.0 is just such a pain in the ass, he would at least need a higher base damage to balance it out.

>>173045198
STOP IT DOOM HAS HAD ENOUGH

>>173045769
Aye, meant to write that but my finger slipped.

it's all fun and games until treant cancels wd's ult with an auto

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>>173045660
Well Burning did say they got lucky and OG were saving strats in the next questions.

>>173045938
>hit from fuckhuge tree stuns and makes you stagger
did icefrog gone too far?

>Ana selfstunning more than stunning the enemy
>Zero impact game 2 and missing every sunstrike
>Former IG player

Really makes you think.

>>173045709
can you read Chinese well?

Is there any team who is more /ourguy/ than Secret?
>Captained by based il presidente, who has beenn in the scene forever
>has MidOne,easy top 7 mids in the game right now
>Can even make shitters like MP and Khezu look good
>using actual strategies other than naga/alch radiance spam
>bring Yames to another valve event whether they like it or not

>>173046529
Go ahead.

techy mains ww@?

>>173044090
did you fail basic reading comprehension in school?