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Old thread >>172997489
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Pulling this fucker off is unbelievably satisfying.
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Post elf
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Please dont use actually good generals names while making OPs. Thank you.
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Would you let your daughter browser /svg/?
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give me a nice deck code
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I like how it took a whole 3 days for people to figure out that Sneks and Blood Moon weren't a problem and just memes.
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26807. Onegai.
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Kos...
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The skies belong to the Dark Dragoon!
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>>173014886
I'd fuck her before anyone else does. Yes
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>>173014965
For what?
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>>173015020
to play the game
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Boys we finally made it. Tier 1 baby. Tier 0 Discard Dragon, here we come.
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>>173014829
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>>173015005
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Just unpacked my second hector.

Someone hit me up with a commie list please.
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>2 months till new card leaks
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>>173014886
whose butt is that
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what cards should I Run instead of D shift because Im only going to use Rune for the story until im able to get a more viable deck for her
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>>173015196
PtP rune. I think it is cheaper.
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Aggro shadow is fair and balanced. Just tech against it.
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>>173015196
Just click the auto deck button and roll with it.
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>>173015196

Just make the Levi.

He's so broken that if you draw 3 of him by the time evo starts he'll hand you the game.
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>>173015196
Did you not open your free packs? There is no way you got 0 legendaries or gold cards out of them
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>>173015150
>still didn't open one for the emblem

I just want to be a collector.
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>>173015052
Were you looking for anything in particular?
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Post cards you want to marry and take responsability.
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>>173015196
Just do anything to play the story.
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>>173015272
Ptp?? I dont have those

>>173015292
Also I dont have that many levis
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>>173015196
Post your legendaries. You can probably vial some bad ones.
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>>173014989
Or some say Kosm...
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rahab was such a brilliantly designed card. dragon needed a 5 hp ward that also grows every turn and is insanely cheap. really compliments the fucking retarded nigger gooks decision to print the sibyl card too.
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>>173015196
Default works perfectly fine for the story excluding the new chapters for Arisa, Erika, and Luna
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>>173015303
I have terrible Luck
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>>173015336
>http://sv.bagoum.com/tierlist
this thing is outdated so it doesnt have tog hence i dont know what to do or explain me the game in doto terms
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>>173014886
Nothing on reverse, sauce?
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concede onegai
70434
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>>173015303
Reroll then
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>>173015403
>>173014989
>mfw not filled enough with eyes to make never seen before tier 1 decks

Would an old one know about that "secret super good" card cygames was talking about?
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>When you mulligan and draw 3 Dragon Oracles in the first 2 turns.

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>>173015462
Bro, you're suppose to reroll on a phone or emulator.
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>>173014709
I still haven't played Hector a single fucking time.
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>>173015601
Please dont bully dirt
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>>173015542
Here's one for aggro shadow

0hjw
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>>173015670
But I dont wanna reroll after all the crap Ive done in this game already...

Do you guys think its for the best I reroll??

I Mean I have only completed two story missions and stuff...
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>>173015601
Wallet dragon was a mistake
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25886 concede please
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Why aren't you bullying meta decks in master with your homebrew memes, /svg/?

https://my.mixtape.moe/zpncqu.webm
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>>173015752
If you have no money invested then yes. Two story missions is nothing. With rerolling you could probably get the tier 1 dragon or shadow deck.
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>>173015752
Anon if you don't have a single legendary from all of the packs you've gotten, it's time to reroll.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/spgnlv.mp4
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>>173015196
I already told you in the other thread, build the deck to counter the specific opponent. The story is meant to test basic deckbuilding ability. Just change the deck for each mission if you start losing with it. You don't need to use any packs to beat 1-8 of story.
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>>173015835
"""""homebrew"""""""
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Why is this card allowed?

2/5 ward for 4 is already premium stats, the ability which makes it relevant at any point is just laughable. I swear this card is the only reason Dragon has any shot against Shadow or Sword.
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Right...?
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3rd snek
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>>173015835
I am. I'm slaying dragons and skeletons with this generals current favorite meme.
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>>173015989
>Why is this card allowed?
>I swear this card is the only reason Dragon has any shot against Shadow or Sword.
Well there you go aggrobab.
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>>173016008
Sibyl is fucking amazing but there is more value on the left side.
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>>173015835
>implying you came up with "kys" blood

Yeah I'm killing everyone with my homebrew Daria deck.
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>>173016030
Meanwhile I pull Strix and 7 bronzes
Fuck me
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How do we delete shadow from the meta?
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My legendaries, Should I Reroll???
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>>173015746
looks bretty gud but its quite expensive for me
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>>173015929
I am so sorry friend, dont mind our resident shitposter making the OP
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>>173015118
Just play Midrange Sword. It has Storm/Rush all over the fucking curve which is better than playing wards.
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>>173016112
Forbidden Ritual is now a neutral card
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>>173015774
Please respond.
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>>173015835
Pure Ouroboros ramp here
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>>173016130
Yes. 7 of those are entirely irrelevant at the moment. (Pamela, Queen, Moon, Matriarch, Neph)
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>>173016130
If it was just from the free 40 packs, fuck no. If it includes the 20 from the private game mission and the 28 from Elite and Elite 2 AIs, yes.
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Anyone have any recommendations on an emulator? Friend wants to get into the game and likes the idea of rerolling.

>>173015682
Shadow Aggro barely even needs him to take off, but he's to much potential value for me to drop him completely. Feels bad man.
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>>173016087
It's not just an anti-aggro card, though. It's good in any situation because it turns into a MUST ANSWER threat. For 4 PP. It's just blatant power creep.

Something like Dragon's Nest I have no problem with, that's a card with a specific purpose. Rahab is ridiculously overstatted, like Garuda-tier dumb.
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>>173016182
Forbidden ritual is countdown 1. It's not that hard to play around
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>>173016210
Thank you gook-san.
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>>173016036
got a pepe list, friendo? been wanting to try it.
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>>173016253
>Queen

Not irrelevant. Not great, but not irrelevant. She's still seeing play in blood control and baphazel.
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>>173016257
>>173016253
Alright Rerolling
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I CAN'T WIN

EVEN SINGLE ROWEN AND LUNA BMS ME

HOW DO I WWWWWWWWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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>>173016276
Everything that isn't overstatted is shit. Stop pretending a neutral vanilla monster has any relevance at all to the current cards.
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>>173016380
Play Rowen or Luna, it's the shadow dragon meta until next expansion.
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>>173016274
I'm playing midrange with 3 Thanes and 2 Hector and I'd much rather play these high value board refills than straight up aggro. I climbed with aggro last expansion and it stressed me the fuck out trying to push every single point of damage and getting completely cucked by a little bit of heal or ward. Midrange is so much more comfortable, sometimes you can sit back and flood and it feels way better.
>>173016362
Fair point.
>>173016380
Try Burn Rite deck
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>>173016380
what the hell are you even playing
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>tfw 5-0 in take 2

Though really, when you get handed 3 Zombie Party, 2 Prince Catacomb, 3 Khawy, 2 Eachtar and an Odin it was kind of expected.
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>>173016380
Play DShift

Laugh at that cuck Rowen and put a lot of early removal in for Luna's shit so she can't set up a 3+ follower catacomb. Also, Fire Chain is a surprisingly good card in this meta when it was super fringe before.
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>>173015989
Shadow and Sword both have easy answers though since they can always tech in Bane or removal.

It is a very good card though, no doubt about that.
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>>173016468
discard dragon
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>>173016486
Jesus christ that deck.
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>20+ turn Dragon vs Dragon game

This is fucking nuts.
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68328 no conceding.
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>>173015989
>this card is the only reason Dragon has any shot against Shadow or Sword
Should they not?
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>>173016498
I would say Fire Chain was a good card in the last meta too. Not sure why DShift didn't run it.
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>does the usual haven removal spam
>spams emotes while using said removal
>has a souped up moon almiraj
>fangblade it
>emote-spam stops
>they say sorry as my turn starts
>they probably have lethal next turn
>use all buffs on pepe
>they disconnect

I fucking love it when people BM all game long then get wrecked. Like pottery.
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>>173016343
Cut off is x1 Gabriel which can be replaced with Arriet. Some anons run ninja trainee instead of mr. too fast.
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>>173016276
>Has fair stat distribution
>Is gold, which justifies having a cool ability
>Has ward so you pretty much have to answer it anyway
Cry more aggro shitter
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>be new player
>game gives me a "win 6 ranked matches" daily mission
what the fuck
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>>173014828
>>those tumor glands
>>better
>Anon, stop giving me eye cancer.

Wow, I didn't know gay people played Shadowverse
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>>173016685

Literally the easiest time to complete that.

What the fuck are you complaining for?
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>>173016685
That's like the easiest thing as a new player.
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>>173016685
Beginner ranks are literally filled with middle-aged Japanese salesmen. Ez.
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>>173016468
I play aggro shadow but i think it went to shit after the third day

I can't play any other deck because I pulled two gingers, zeus and deepshit anomaly. Got a aegis but can't really do anything with one, and I put my one hector in my aggro deck.
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>>173016498
>Dshift
>winning
Not on my watch.
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>>173016685
You're playing against D-ranks. Just play banner sword, pepe, or some cheap aggro deck and shit on them.
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>>173016685
ranked is just unranked with points
losing hardly matters unless you lose like 25 games in a row
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>>173016685
Just replace it you stupid fuck.

I replace every "Win X Ranked Games" mission I get.

You WILL regret ranking up with a small card pool
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Cyclone blade + pepe is fucking horseshit
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>>173016685
That's the best mission there is fag
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>>173016452
>last expansion

Well there was your problem anon, you played Shadow Aggro before it was consistent.

Little Soulsquasher, Orthus and especially pic related have been a blessing, you get a lot of good damage and your board has a lot of sticking power. Hector isn't necessary, but he does too much for me to not like him. Creates boards, removes boards or buffs your current board to go for the kill.
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>>173016786
>implying you're getting to the Shaq Zell Baha combo when DShift can kill you on T7 and consistently on T8

It isn't even a 1 shot unless you got in 8 damage before, which is more than evolved Forte.
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>>173016851
Yeah playing shadow aggro in RoB was really awful compared to now, in order to make good use of reaper you had to curve out almost much perfectly. Khaiza carried me pretty hard but I don't have room for him in midrange funnily enough.
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>>173016851
>aggro shadow
>consistent
>ever

Don't spread misinformation. It's still a fucking "draw cerb and howl before turn 5 or lose" bullshit. Fucking hate this retarded overhyped deck.
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So Dshift with Lous, swords and Libaries is pretty fun
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>>173016829
>Sword is mid tier so it gets to keep one insanely overpowered card

I hate when games do this.
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>>173016829
Yep
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>>173017010
I've won multiple games without Cerb or Howl just by getting a 3 follower catacomb on turn 3. That's literally all you need to win the fucking game.
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26317 don't concede pls.
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>>173017010
I don't even have cerb in my deck lol
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So, there is no way to uncensor Isabelle on android anymore?
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>>173017087
hi
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>>173017010
>dont draw quickblade on turn 1 as aggro sword
>lose
>dont draw 3 storm cards and another 3 face damage cards before turn 6 as blood
>lose
>dont have 3 fairies in hand and a roach before turn 7
>lose
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>>173017010
Switch to midrange, then you have 3 win conditions and multiple ways to pressure. Much, much more fun to play than "curve out, draw well, or fail"
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>>173017067
No one except the biggest retard will let you do that anymore. If they do, they might as well have bricked and you were going to win anyway.
They learned to remove all your shit already.
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How do you turn 5 bahamut?
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>>173017010
This >>173017067

I don't actually run Howl anymore. I dropped them for 2 Demonlord Eachtar 1 Deadmoon Disciple for shiggles. I almost always have a board unless Haven has been removing my minions.
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>>173017209
That's exactly what I'm doing anyway. I've been playing shadow since DE, tried shadow """aggro""" each expansion and always hated it.
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Did OTK discard get anything decent this expansion? I just slapped on Grimnirs and Rahabs so far.
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Is this the ultimate meme deck?
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>>173015746
do you have any tog dragon code? i rolled 40 packs and i got some decent stuff
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>>173017209
It definitely feels like once the meta settles down Midrange will be stronger than aggro. It feels like a lot of people are playing to greedily right now and that's the reason why aggro shadow has been stomping.
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This is a satisfying.
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>Homebrew dragon does it again
wew lad
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>>173017373
>standard ramp dragon
No
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Should I vial my animated Rose Queen and Fairy Princess?
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>>173017223
If you go first

>T1 Skullbeast or Goblin can't be contested by any 1 drop except Blazing Breath.
>T2 literally any 2 drop because unless they play something with Storm/Rush it can't trade into your 2 drop until you play Catacomb. Even better if you have double 1 drop
>T3 Catacomb win the video game

Honestly Aggro shadow might be the deck that wants to go first the most in the whole game.
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>>173017087
gg
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>>173017434
also note I am not playing satan with my cock
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51753
concede pls
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>>173017424
>just them-
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>>173017373
>No Aela's for more ramp

If you're gonna ramp, do it all the way.

If you don't have 10 play orbs by turn ten I will be disappointed in you my son.
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>>173017147
Just play this instead if you want uncensored anime card game titties

You can evolve cards here too
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>Trying to play Temple Defender against 10PP Dragon

HAHAHAHAHA
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>>173017408
Being able to respond to boardwipes with multiple refills puts midrange's power level so, so much fucking higher than straight up aggro will ever be able to do. I feel so fucking powerful when i drop zombie party DB or Thane after a clear whereas if I were playing aggro that would just be straight up GG.
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>>173017591
>not having 10 orbs by turn ten
how do you even manage that
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>>173017517
gg
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>>173017586
>dragon fishes for something to remove lecia with all his pp
>it isn't enough
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>turn 3 do nothing
>turn 5 play a 2/1

wew
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>>173017635
Is that multiplayer?
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>>173017635
stop shilling your ""card"" game here
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>>173017373
>34 legos
>that curve
Those are some primo quality bricks you got there.
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>>173017664

I firmly believe that midrange will be the way to go once the netdeckers stop being retarded and start teching in anti-skelly cards like barrage.
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>pick anti aggro deck, get nothing but control matchups
>pick anti control deck, get nothing but aggro matchups
I love when dailies take over 2 hours
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>>173017505
They are both trash and you will never use them but I wouldn't vial animated cards
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>>173017635
i want to evolve my dick inside her vagina if you catch my drift
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>>173015601
>next game

13 game winning streak in AA0, going to hit Masters thanks to the 60k vials I paid to become DRAGONLORD.
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>>173017724
>Blood gets all these tools
>It's somehow still shittier than sword and forest
Such a shame it couldn't be with Shadow and Dragon in the light
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>>173017505
how can you resist turning all those animated fairies into animated thorn bursts?
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>>173017840
play sword agro. Works for me 3min matches :3
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>>173017948
I don't have sword dailies
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Do I run Temple Defender or Grimnir as Haven?
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>>173017896
>netdecking
disgusting
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>>173017763
Believe in the heart of the cards yugi
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>>173017997
get wrecked :(
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>play cannon sword
>haven plays literally nothing but removal amulets all game
>whittle him down because he doesn't play a single minion
>at 1 health, has nothing on the board but aegis
>kill him with grimnir
Stop using that card, stop building around it, stop expecting to win after you do absolutely nothing on turn 9.
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>Literally lossing cause the game freezes up for a second and mis-registers your move

I have never been so mad in my life.
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Why in god's name did they make dragon ramp so easy? They don't have to give up any tempo to be 2 PP ahead of you now.
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>>173017940
You right anon. Maybe I should play this deck sometimes.
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64246 for achieve farm (no concede).
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>>173018105
Only if they draw well.
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>>173017664
So will Eachtor sama be required for midrange? I'm thinking about either crafting him or Aegis.
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>Last four times I played against Sword they PLAYED THE EXACT SAME WAY
>FRONT LINES ON THE FIRST TURN
>NOTHING SECOND TURN
>PEPE THIRD TURN
>ETC

HOLY FUCK THIS CANCER BULL
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>>173018002
Temple defender is still king of anti-aggro.
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>>173018197
test of strength
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>>173018195
Yes, completely required as at least a 2x. He's an amazing fucking card, he does both board refill, board buff, and you can run zombies into wards to clear the way.
All that said I literally haven't played him once after 8 wins with this deck
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>>173018115
gg fun match :)
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The hag actually try to disconnect me when losing to a bunch of sneks.
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Dragon is rock
Shadow is paper
Haven is scissors
Aggro Blood is sandpaper
Cblood is a brittle rock
Rune is a glass window
Sword is construction paper
Forest is mushrooms
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>>173018197
>the meme card became meta
Best sword legendary we got this expac
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so how do you think they're gonna nerf prince catacomb?

i'm pretty sure it's the one card letting shadow go on a rampage murdering everything, at this point it's more likely to be nerfed than anything dragon has
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>>173017147
I don't recall there being a way. Can you tell me how?
I'd like cute ghost in my phone too.
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>>173018318
Mushroom beat what?
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>>173018274
gg got test to study for now :(
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>>173018261

Don't forget that he gives rush to all followers, not just the zombies he summons. You can play a zero cost wight king and then rush it into a problem card.
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>>173018274
gg
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>>173018382
>cygames
>nerfing
darias only nerf was not even related to her but to levi and it was only 1 cost
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Wew
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>>173018382
Well the most obvious nerf is to make it not affect itself.
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>>173018458
Jesus that's even better
I need to play this fucker in battle at least once
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Good night, famalams.
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>tfw just got out of a LITERALLY 36 MINUTE match against Dragon

YOU CAN BAHAMUT MY AIRSHIPS

YOU CAN BANISH MY DIRE BONDS

AND YOU CAN EVEN HEAL AWAY MY STORM DAMAGE

BUT YOU CAN'T

DEFEAT

MY

BLOODY MARY TOPDEEECKS
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>>173018494
I mean they completely neutered RoachTK
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>>173018412
everything
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What's the best sword dick right now?
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>>173018494
they only care about win rates

if prince catacomb let's aggro shadow, an already strong 50%+ deck go over 54%+, it's gonna get whacked way before any new gold/legendary is
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>>173018558
Yeah that's true, roach was destroyed after the nerf
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>>173018517
>2 leonidas'
>didnt banish either of them
>as haven

You got it coming you fucking retard
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>>173018558
That one was completely warranted. that deck's consistency was a fucking travesty against life itself and absolutely nobody will miss that garbage consistently killing on turn 7
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Is Beast Dominator ever going to be good?

I have two animated and like how they look, but I never fucking use them.
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mfw burn rune is the only fun way to play rune anymore
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>>173018517

Just Themis Brah : )
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>>173018517
>a 9/11 follower versus a bald eagle
Seems familiar
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>>173018624
Hey fuck you, I miss being able to consistently rape face on turn 7.
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>>173018624
It was warranted, but they dick completely neuter a deck with a nerf.
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>>173018698
Rape face earlier with aggro shadow
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Hello, I am interested in this game but I am wondering if there is a vital gameplay component in this game that I think should be an industry standard. Are there any cutie brown girls in this game? If so, please post images of aforementioned cutie brown girls. Thank you, your response will be the deciding factor in me picking up this game.
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>>173016486
>Similar deck in T2 the other day, 2 Eachtars, Odin, and 3 Princes and whatnot
>Easy 4-0
>Brick against Blood in the last match
>They Vengeance snek as soon as I start doing something
Eks fucking dee

I will NEVER EVER get 5 wins. It's just fucking impossible.
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>>173018698
If you like playing broken decks then you should start playing Dragon if you aren't already.
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>>173018558
And yet roach is still forests top winrate deck followed by an now even more bullshit deck wolfbolt
And guess what? They can run both
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>>173018621
The Leonidases didn't mean shit, I only lost because I didn't draw an Aegis by turn 13.
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>>173018725
I would argue that Cygames didn't want Roach to be the central and only win condition to Forest decks. Roach is an extremely strong tech card that is one way for Forest to close out games but if it's allowed to have that kind of consistency it really renders much of the rest of the match irrelevant.
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>>173018517
If albert was in any other craft he'd have rush not storm.
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>>173018793
Forest is like the worst class right now, wolf bolt only has a high winrate because you don't know it's a wolfbolt deck until they use it and that is generally when they win anyway.
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>>173018762
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>>173018901
>Forest is like the worst class right now
Oh look at you, pretending that play rate means shit.
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>>173015340
>implying /svg/ will take responsibility for anything precious
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>>173018762
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>>173018901
You're an idiot, the wolfbolt variant with 3 Aerin's and 1 Elf Queen is extremely good and one of the best decks right now.
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Luminous mage is fucking bonkers. 2 bodies with evo. What the hell?
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>>173018762
No. All the girls are pure
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>>173018997
>have 2 wolfs
>no bolts

Why the fuck is bolt a legoo
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>>173018958
As if people trying to climb ladder wouldn't be using forest if it was good.
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>>173017375
help
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I did it! I beat dragon as sword!
Without playing a single Albert!
First 3 turns dragon did nothing and didn't have Sybil
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>>173019046
>going into the battlefield in such attire

Since when soldiers are also spoils of war?
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>>173018901
>they either win with roach or wolfbolt whatever comes first
Literally what I just posted
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Sybil nerfs when? Why does a card that fights for board and destroys aggro also ramp?
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>>173019103
More people are playing Sword and Rune when it has a LOWER win rate.

The explanation is simple, Forest is too complicated for them. The skill floor is too high.
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>>173019097
check again
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>>173018901

How does that make it a bad deck? Wolfbolt is good and what you described is one of the reasons its good.
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>>173018901
forest did have the lowest winrate at the tournament by far but is it really that bad?
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>>173019176
>ramp

Why haven't you killed them on fucking turn 5?
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>>173019176
t. aggro player

its our turn to be cancer
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>>173019176
It's not gonna get nerfed.
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>>173018901
>Deck has high winrate
>But it's not good because it wins in the wrong way
Oh okay anon.
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>>173018574
Honestly pepe. Not even joking.
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>>173019130
Actually. She has leg protection, helmet and gauntlets which are the most important pieces of armor. Also she's a mage.
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>>173019228

Really? I always assumed it was a leggo because of its purple colour when it was played against me. Am I retarded?
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Anyone else watching nopi00 smash masters and get to 9k points with suicide blood with Soul Dealer and no snakes? This decks fucking insane
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>>173019236
The winrate is inconsistent because of how it's reported as a wolfbolt deck, that is generally reported as a wolfbolt deck when the win condition is out

>>173019270
Not what I'm saying at all
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>>173019046
luminous mage is gonna make sword top tier (again) and i don't think they even need to nerf dragon/shadow to make this happen

luminous mage lets sword sit on evo's for albert, it's incredibly lame
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>>173019353
No, I'm not a bumd twitch faggot. Go back.
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>>173019247
>>173019258
I'm not even playing aggro though.
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>>173019417
>not wanting to see every single card in the game animated
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>>173019358
>The winrate is inconsistent because of how it's reported as a wolfbolt deck, that is generally reported as a wolfbolt deck when the win condition is out
But you just said it's also reported as a roach deck and that has a high winrate too.

And that doesn't matter either because the chart showing Forest's high winrate covered Forest's OVERALL winrate, it includes ALL the losses too across ALL decks.
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>>173018574
Albertocraft with demonic strike, fangblade and gREEEEE teched in to slay the ward army.

Also frog when you aren't against shadow or a haven that magically manages to draw ALL the tribunals AND snipe frogs every time.
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>>173018574
Aggro frog
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>Some people think Israfil only deal 8 damage.
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>>173019513
Roach doesn't have a high winrate
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>dragon salamander breaths a single vanguard and Amelia
>play Otohime
>no second salamander breath
>Captain Walfried

Dragoncucks are so fucking bad
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>>173019474
Stay in your twitch chat. You have to be at least 18 years old to post here.
>>
Just unpacked my second Gay Wine.

Is he useful at all, CSword bros?
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https://youtu.be/9eIf9nP-dOg
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>a frog beating best boy
What a joke.
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>>173019440
oh well good luck anon you can't stall a dragon for too long. only other dragons can do that >>173017434
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>>173019606
I'll be here in this thread if you want to talk about your insecurities anon
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>>173017137
Post dick.
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What the fuck is this bullshit?
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>>173017434
What's homebrew about it?
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>>173019567
Because most dumb people manage to miss lethal with roaches or time out because of long ass abilited animations.
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Can someone post that aeirin wolfbolt deck?
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>>173019603

Because according to reddit and /svg/ Walfrid is a "bad card" that isn't worth playing around.
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What is the current deck tier list?
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>>173019331
It's okay anon, maybe you were thinking of thorn burst/rose queen.
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>>173019725
its not even 70k vials
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>>173019792
>white wolf combo
>forte representing it
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>>173019603
>Tries to play around the inevitable Albert by not taking face damage because Swordcraft is literally Albertcraft
>Wow he's so bad
Just by playing a deck that doesn't revolve around it you make people play poorly because everyone expects you to based on how things have been for a few months now.
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>>173019792
>nep is still tier 2

Funny when I haven't even fought one since ToG.
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>>173019902
I haven't seen a single white wolf, but then I don't even see elf
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>when you put dragon rich bois in de dumpster with albert
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>>173019567
>>173019358
Forest overall has a high winrate

How many times do you have to be told this before you finally shoot yourself in your fucking retarded face? I can't imagine how fucking dumb you have to be to come here and post the same retarded thing every time and have multiple people correct you only to never ever admit that you have no idea what you're talking about

You see this number here. This is forests winrate with all decks. Tell me you fucking einstein how forest could have such a winrate if not the most popular forest decks were winning games? Please just neck yourself and stop posting in this thread.
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>>173019792
>/svg/ is crying about one of the shittiest decks out there right now

YOU CANT MAKE THIS UP
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>>173019693
Man man YOU
ARE YOU
WHO THE FUCK ARE
YOU GODFUCKING WHORE TO
SAY ANYTHING
ABOUT BOARD SPAMMING
U KIDDIN'?!!?
YOU DEAD MENTAlLY ILL BITCH?
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>>173014992

but what if you need albert and maid leader pulls luminous dyke?
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New ramp dragon still use Luci, or replace him with something else?
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>>173020009
Then you play mage and rally your other followers with a +1/+0 buff and still have that EP for your albert topdeck.

Not to mention it mindfuck your opponent who thinks you have albert in hand.
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F U C K
U
C
K

HAVEN
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>>173019792
So anything not 5* is literally unplayable right?
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>>173019969
>lowest play rate
The only people really playing the deck are people that aren't experimenting with new decks, it's still the decks from last expansion with 2 or 3 new cards at best. That is only going lower as the expansion progresses and people refine decks that got good new cards.
>>
31498
Need a private win for daily, please pass turns.
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>>173019897
He had two evolves
Wasting your total board clear on two weenie units because you're too cocky playing wallet dragon.
If he had saved his salamander breath when I played Otohime, he would have survived long enough to play his OP BahaBlast and won the game.
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>>173019902
Nep is tier 2 in the sense that Dshift was tier 1 while it had a 43% winrate a while ago. It does some things well but it's not good for ladder.
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Someone post early DE and RoB tier list, and late DE and RoB tier list
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I thought no one played this class???
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>>173019839
and its only 38,300 vials to make
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>>173020103
Probably shouldn't play anything other than dragon or shadow like most of ladder.
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>>173019902
It's because there are, like, one or two people playing it, and one is me. I didn't even add a single card from tog to the deck, maybe I could swap out a patrol with grim and one pact with zombie party, maybe 1 soulsquasher for unica too, but still ol' 2378 Nep is still stronk as fug.
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>>173020150
Yeah, he definitely knew what was in your hand.
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>>173020147
Or concede, I forgot about that. Either is fine.
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>>173020103
Are you retarded?
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>>173020103
tier 0
'''''midrange''''' shadow
tier 1
midrange shadow
aggro shadow
ramp dragon
wolfbolt/roach
tier 50
rest
>>
>come back
>play forest
>they changed arisa's voice
>gasp emote is ruined
well game is unplayable
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>>173019792
>Sparrow Vampire
What deck is this?
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>>173018318
I get this reference.
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>>173020150
For all you know his hand might be 2 Bahamut 2 Saha 1 Salamander or some shit.

There's also little worth evolving if you're really looking to avoid face damage and don't have a ward or a dragon warrior.
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>>173020128
Forest has gotten a few good cards from the expansion to slot into its tempo and wolfbolt decks. There is certainly no "settled" meta deck that exists for forest yet especially when you see a guy with 27 winstreak in masters with a non-wolfbolt deck that essentially looks basically like a new control-roach archetype.

If anything once people figure out a good forest deck everyone will flock back to the craft to netdeck again. People were sleeping on roach decks in RoB, it's absolutely idiotic to call the meta settled not even a week into the expansion.
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>>173019792
>Concede Witch

My fucking sides
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>tfw you don't draw albert
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>>173020319
>>173020103
>>173020213
Please quit playing. You are dumb.
>>
59100 concede please
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>>173020354

Maybe Airjammer?
>>
Is Luminous even worth it swordfags?
Most of the time i rather have albert in my hand.
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>>173019902
>>173020216
People went apeshit over Lightning Blast thinking it meant Nep was now dead, except if anything, Ramp Dragon play less Lightning Blast than Odins during RoB, with Storm Ramp cutting it out altogether.
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>>173020128
Well until that little fantasy comes into fruition, saying Forest is the worst right now is just a guess at best and delusion at worst.
>>
can you combine wolfbolt/ptp and then put in elf queen as a recovery plan, using stuff like aeron to sustain indefinitely
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>tfw you drop Satan at turn 7
>tfw he can't drop Test of Strength at t8
Why are JP players so petty?
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>>173020523

I would say it depends on your deck.

If you play a lot of value cards like Floral and Monika, 100% worth.

If you play a smorc deck, you can probably pass on it.
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>>173020523
Good in aggro
Effectively gives a free +1/+0 buff to all your minions on the turn its played, along with a 3/2 rush and a 2/3 body that pretty much has to be killed
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>>173018384
The US version coupled the files associated with the characters, I dunno why.
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>>173020616
That sounds terrible
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>>173020616
Too congested, you can't merge PTP into it. This deck wouldn't work.
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what the fuck do i do agaisnt this fucking frog? wall of wards?
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>>173020620
>MOOOM my p2w deck won!! vs a deck that needs to pass 3 turns to win!
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>>173020771
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>>173016380
Play Dragon or Shadow or wait 1-3 months.
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>>173020616
>built up hard earned 29 shadows
>fuck gotta heal
>fuck gotta drop PtP though
How the fuck is it that gonna work lol.
>>
>Boohoo I netdecked a roach or albert list and vialed my collection for them and neither work anymore wtf cygames I can't afford any other deck now stop balancing the game and printing cards
Literally this general right now.
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>>173020523
Defintely worth it, gives you more rush with good stats so you can save that precious evolve for Albert. It also forces out an immediate response otherwise you snowball off of the free evolves
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>>173020870
>Shadow and dragon finally get their time in the spotlight
>Four fucking card sets in a row blood is only good for an okay aggro deck
I'm still waiting patiently for slower blood decks to be good.
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>>173020771
>wall of wards
>he cyclones blades
>>
Dragon this expansion is exactly like Daria in the previous one
"Oh you got your perfect curve and exactly cards you needed, congratz on your victory, too bad you bricked 9 out of 10 games and lost them"
I'm actually surprised how anyone can think this craft is anything but t20 dumpster shit
I'll keep farming you retards with aggro shadow\sword, thanks for the free points.
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>>173020771
Themis
Tribunal
Orthrus
Secret of Erasumus
Lurching/Necro
Cyclone Blade

There's enough random instant kill shit to ruin frog's day.
It's just good against Dragon because they're dead before their crutch Lightning Blast/Bahamut comes into play.
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>>173020945
But albert is still good
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>>173021027
t. Rowen falseflag
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>>173020523
Luminous is a great tempo play and forces your opponent to deal with her if he doesn't want to throw the game. When facing an aggro player who ignores her and goes face, I follow up with White Paladin and it completely shuts them down. Of course, results will vary based on your deck, but I've always found turn 5 Albert an underwhelming play compared to saving him for turn 9 (or 10 with Mentor's Teachings).
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>>173020945
>Albert no longer works
What did you mean by this?
>>
Post CSword lists
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>>173020971
At this point we can safely say that Cygames fucked up their balancing thanks to forcing in more and more wincons like DShift and Aegis.

Dragon works because it ramps, and thanks to Sibyl it can do so without dying so often. It wins if and when it gets to 10 PP a few turns ahead and starts dropping big threat after big threat, hopefully before these absolute wincons go off.
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>sword faggot lays down frog turn 3
>double may him the next turn
>put both May back into my hand with ancient elf turn 4
>his face when

Feels good shitting on memers
>>
>>173019608
Anyone?
>>
>>173021081
>>173021041
It's not T0 or Tier Albert anymore though.

That's what these people want. To them, any non-fotm list is as good as shit.
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>>173020945
Except roach still works and albert will never not be in every sword deck unless they add a 4cost commander with storm and 5 attack nonevolved to combo with support cannon
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>>173019792
I bet DShift moves up soon, it's good or at least passable against everything people are playing right now. I haven't seen a single bats, aggro sword or Daria deck in the last 50 games, and those were the main bad matchups.

Aggro Shadow isn't as bad because they rely on Catacomb so much and Fire Chain blows them out. Cerb Howl is the only scary thing, but even then Iceform can stop half of the burst.
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>>173021198
search for "commander"
add them all to the deck
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>>173019608
>>173021198
>""control"" sword
>in the age of our lord dragon
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>>173021072
I'm actually just mad I spent 20k vials on this garbage deck
Could've made forest\blood deck and actually have some fun with it
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>>173021035
>It's just good against Dragon because they're dead before their crutch Lightning Blast/Bahamut comes into play.
you hit the mark, i literally got facefucked by a fucking frog
so i cant do shit agaisnt it uh
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>>173021204
But you can't netdeck a meta T1 Forest list right now so it's problematic :^)
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>>173021203
#1 on the master ladder right now is albert
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>>173019792
>Sparrow Vampire
>Concede Witch

What are these?
>>
>>173020971
>give Blood great cards this set
>it's still garbage
You have to wonder at this point what it would take to make Blood tier 1 now without resorting to more unga
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Blood has so many cool tools now I don't know where to start! Post vamp dicks !
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>Have 12 dmg from hand next turn
>Oh Wait
DELET DRAGON. IT DIDN'T STOP AT THAT EITHER, HE KEPT DROPPING BAHAMUTS, GENESIS AND OUROBOROS
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>>173021312
Give it a week or two the expansion just started
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does someone have a deck code for a beginner/extremely cheap aggro deck?

I found some by searching myself, but they seem mostly outdated (for example 0jfe and 0jge .)
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>>173020620
>wallet dragon
opinion disregarded
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>Win 1 match as Forestcraft
>no Roaches
>no Ancient Elves
>no Wolves
>no Silver Bolts
Give thanks to our lord and savior the replace button.
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Do we start roping Dragon now?
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>>173021354
Blood was tier 1 for a whole hour upon release of TOG.
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So Grimnir on turn 3 is basically an auto concede for aggro decks right?
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Any suggestions for this dick?
Gawain for Jeno?
Otohime?
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>>173021483
>replace mission
>4 wins as forest
Make it stop
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>>173021487
If you hate the deck so much just play DShift. Unless they're a cheesy Storm list you have a massively favored matchup.
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>>173021487
I don't have time to do that shit.
Dragoncucks already rope when it's their turn 5 and they have Sybiel in their hand
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>>173021518
I don't see why it would be, for sword at least.

It's not like Imprisoned Dragon saved me most of the time before TotG, and it has better stats, even.
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Thoughts?

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Hy.640Hy.640Hy.60COa.60COa.60COa.67qgu.67qgu.67qgu.67st2.67st2.67st2.6CsCi.6CsCi.6CsCi.642Ey.642Ey.642Ey.67sNo.60E5y.60E5y.60E5y.6BjSI.6BjSI.6BjSI.67sO6.67sO6.67sO6.6BgWy.6477S.6477S.67uqM.67uqM.6FZYI.6FZYI.645Pw.645Pw.645Pw.6FZYS.6FZYS#_=_

Literally only playing Haven so that I can play DJeanne.
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>>173021487
Yep. Play aggro shadow and rope against every dragon player. Dragon players deserve no respect.
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>>173021518
Not really, although it is a pain in the ass.
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>>173021518
>zombie party
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Blood is solid, it's just not autowin
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>>173021518
Was Temple Defender on turn 3 an auto concede? Plenty of classes can punch past a 3 defense ward pretty easily.
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>>173021483
Just aggro bro.
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>>173021582
Seems like some kind of Haven mid deck with Aegis randomly tossed into it.
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>>173021528
Ditch Gawain for Jeno
Ditch Luminious for DoD
Congrats you made Albertsword

Seriously though if you want to use Gawain, you want to add more cheap commanders like White Paladin and Lecia. Otohime/Walfrid combo is amazing if you can bait AoE clears first.
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>>173021503
>everyone excited for your cards on release of ToG
>hour later everyone is bandwagoning on to Dragon or Shadow
FeelsBloodMan
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>>173021370
kay
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.6.63dOg.63dOg.63dOg.6F3pC.6F3pC.6F3pC.6F8hs.5_pzw.5_pzw.5_p-4.5_p-4.5_p-4.6F6kY.6F6kY.68zBg.68zBg.68zBg.63dQ4.63dQ4.63dQ4.63ilo.63ilo.63ilo.63iH0.63iH0.63iH0.659nE.659nE.659nE.63iGs.63iGs.63iGs.67Yro.67Yro.6F6Fm.6F6Fm.6F6Fm.63i_a.63i_a.63i_a
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>>173021183
if forest becomes big in the meta they'll just tech in barrage like they did back in the DE days
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>>173021268
B-but I liked Csword...
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>>173021589
Just a few weeks ago, Dragon was the one craft people never greentexted other than to call it shit. If you played Dragon, you were someone who didn't mind putting up with the bad craft for the sake of playing what you liked.

Funny how times change. Of course /svg/ just assumes everyone is a fotmfag.
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>>173021636
>aggro
>running zombie party
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>>173018672
He even attacks twice
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Are there any Mid Blood lists that dont run shit like Sneks or Soul Dealer?
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>flowerbed comes down
>they don't ward
thanks for the free wins, dragonfriends
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>>173021719
Forest was big in RoB but nobody played Barrage because it was dead against other decks.

And in a meta where Dragon and skellies-inside-skellies Shadow reigns, that shit is not going to work out.
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>>173021487
>wasting your life in order to wasting others'

When they will probably be multi-tasking too?
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>>173021528
>shoving gay wine in a deck with 5 commanders
>one of whom is used heavily for the enhance effect
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>>173019792
>Concede Witch
You've piqued my interest.
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When will dragoncraft get actually good dragons instead of literally whos
>ouroboro
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>>173021027
Daria bricked so hard that it showed up in top tournaments lists and Cygames had to nerf it.
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The scariest of situations.
I won.
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>>173021801
gotchu famalam >>173021713
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>>173021763
At least Blood will always stay the same, at least until next expac
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You'll NEVER guess what shifter did next about the 12 face rape next turn!
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>>173021283
>20k vials on dragon deck
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>>173021887
Cygames had to nerf it because shitters kept crying about it 24/7
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>>173021895
How's unga dirt working out for you?
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>>173021885
>There will never be a good Dragon girl, leader or card, with a plump rump and fat thighs
how even live
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>>173021390
Why play meme Sword when you can play 60k vials Ramp Dragon and do 13 from hand.
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>>173021457
<- here is what i use for my blood dailies right now and used to climb pre-rob

here is what i am going to try (with some adjustments) when i fight my inner jew into submission and he allows me to craft 2 mastema >>172942425
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>>173021836
forest in ROB also stopped relying on bouncing weenies up and down and started OTK'ing with roaches instead, before that they were fucked over pretty bad by it, Aggrobats were also super common at the time and didnt have much with high tougness
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How was Daria nerfed, what did they do?
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>>173021483
Same situation. Barely managed to eke out a win against a ramp dragon by cockblocking his two Bahamuts with a board full of fairies each time and slowly bleeding him to death.
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I just got bodied by three enchanted sword blade mage after eating a lot of burn
You thought it was Dshift but it was I, Magic Albert!
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>>173021887
It wasn't even a direct Daria nerf, they nerfed Piercing Rune which was in every Rune list because it was retarded.

If they nerfed Daria herself or Clarke then it would have been meaningful.
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>>173021836
In RoB, most of the fairies you saw were on turn 2 for Ancient Elf, or played on the Roach turn, after which you were dead. No point in running Barrage then.
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>>173021351
Concede witch = dirtrune
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>>173021940
dirt rune player petrified your meme castle didnt he?
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>>173021984
forte
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>>173021981
Not him, but it feels like im playing a gimped Daria deck. It still needs work though, not sure about Demonic Strike or Grimnir.
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WHY DOES DYKECRAFT HAS A 3/2/2 STORM WHAT THE FUCK
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>>173021908
Bloods in an interesting spot in that they have multiple viable decks instead of one overpowered one.

What they did for blood is what they should have done for other classes instead of pushing one archetype to the extreme.
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>>173021984
Well, quetzal is inevitable to happen one day at aleast.
They can only milk the greek/egyptian/persian mythology for so long
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>>173021354
Blood isn't rewarded for making it to late game. Blood late game threats are cards like Temptress Vampire and Maelstrom Serpent which don't compare to things like Aegis/Seraph/Dshift/Ramp Dragon/Elf OTKs/etc. All blood can really do is grind you out. Midrange blood isn't that bad but midrange as an archtype has power creeped so high over the last few expansions that blood is pushed into making faster decks because that's the only point of the game where they have an advantage vs a wide range of decks. Blood got some great cards this expansion but they're all slow which is not something that a slow craft prone to dying to late game combos needed.

At least Dshift isn't auto concede any more with cblood.
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>>173022113
RoB Forte is thin though.

>>173022157
Maybe one day.
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LITERALLY NO BETTER FEELING
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>>173022016
Are you talking about in ToG? They massively buffed one of Daria's worst matchups and she has trouble racing shadow now. If you mean the actual nerfs, they nerfed piercing rune.
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>>173021283
>Spend 20k on a deck he doesn't understand
>Wow this is gay garbage
Shouldn't spend if you don't know my man

>>173021989
Times have really changed for the worse ;_;
Really not a fan of Ouroboros basically single-handedly invalidating my deck either.
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FUCK HAVEN AND FUCK TOS
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>>173022016
Piercing rune evolve cost
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>173022321
ayyy
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>>173022016
Piercing Rune used to cost 1pp after an evolve, they nerfed it to cost 2pp.
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>>173022321
Your fault for playing an aggressive list and not beating Haven by turn 10.
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>>173022273
>nerfed piercing rune
>another clan got some good cards

So why the fuck do the dumb cunts in this thread keep saying Daria was nerfed? Are they fucking retarded are something? Ate some lead paint?
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>>173022080
Nah, shifter dropped ice form and would have won if she hadn't bricked somehow leading to her conceding to a ninja star drop
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>ignore dailies
>have fun again

wow
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>>173022321
>not having goetia in hand prepared for this
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>>173014709
If you made your first shadowverse account on steam, can you still reroll through android? Or do you still need to make an alternate steam account for your new roll?
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>>173022373
gd1
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>>173022131
Use your wards
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>>173022379
>Nerf one of the decks key card and make the every other deck better
>lol how did they nerf it

Kill yourself
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>>173021984
Soon
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>>173022321
You cant save cerberus shit and evolves vs haven you dumb fuck
You know its coming on turn 9 so you want to pressure them as much as possible to the point where they cant afford to pass turn 9
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>>173022321
Just goetia my dude. How can contest be real if the amulet isn't real
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Do you ever feel bad about ruining some Japanese salaryman's morning with your cancerous deck?
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>>173022321
>Playing Urd instead of Doggo 2.0.

Found your problem.
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>>173022494
>nerfing a simple damage card
>hurr somehow this changed the entire deck around and equates to a nerf to Daria herself

Fuck off you halfwit. State what happened, not this bullshit. Daria didn't get nerfed, Piercing Rune did.
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>>173022379
Well it's technically true that Daria the deck type is much weaker now. They didn't literally nerf Daria but she's not as much of a threat nowadays. She's probably still good, it's just that her worst matchup is literally the most popular deck on ladder right now so no sane person is playing it.
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>Dragon bahamuts your castle in the sky t6/7
>Their entire hand consists of saha x free "evo"'s, bahamuts, scyther banes and lightning blasts deleting everything
What's even the fucking point? It's like they decided haven wasn't degenerate enough
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Are they going to do another T2 special with ToG packs?
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>>173022612
You are either retarded or you want to stir up shit for no reason. Anyway, kill yourself.
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>>173022541
War is hell. He knew the risk he took
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>>173022658
They didn't do RoB so unlikely.
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>>173022658
They didn't with RoB if I recall correctly so they might not with ToG.
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>>173022654
a daily reminder to always rope dragon cancer
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>>173022612
When people say Daria got nerfed, they're obviously referring to the deck, you literal fucking autist. Kill yourself.
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>>173022654
>sahaing bahamut
Just wait till you face a good ramp player. You'll wish you played nep by then
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>>173022541

He should have followed our comrade
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eyfa is a good girll
i can finally enjoy sugitacraft ;_;
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>>173022837
Nowhere did he say that.

I also forgot topdecking/luck was a skill.
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>>173022654
>t5 sybil
>t6 forte
>t7 saha
>t8 ouro
>t9 Saha Zell
Boy that was a fun game, glad I did nothing and got stomped
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>>173022541
Japanese salaryman doesn't give a shit.
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>>173022612
>simple damage card that allowed daria to completely control turn 1-5 and guarantee darias on turn 4
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>>173022654
>Next one hits 10pp t7, odins my castle, grimnir's my board, spaghetti's I am the healing of my powercreep
Y-Yeah. J-Just kill them dude...
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>>173023001
>a card you can't use until you get evolves
>control shit early game

Uh huh, you keep believing that.
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>>173022541
He takes much thicker dicks all 13-15 hours of his work day. He's probably thank you if he could.
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>34 packs since my last lego
Hey, at least I opened an animated I didn't have yet...
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Reminder the true dragon hell hasn't even begun since most dragons on ladder aren't playing aggressive storm lists of ramp.

>>173023105
I'm pretty sure you're just trolling but turn 4 levi evolve + rune to clear three followers was incredibly difficult to come back from. Rune had nearly a 15-20% higher win rate when they went second. Piercing Rune was why.
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>>173022541
I think he had fun getting destroyed by cancer, anything is better than the average day as a Nip salaryman
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>>173023194
is the storm version really that much better than the saha version?
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I stopped playing 2 months ago because RNG wasn't so kind to me on packs, and I wasn't really that good. I came back today, and my account is not there anymore. I log in through steam, and it's treating me like a new player.
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>>173023194
what does the storm list look like
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>>173023249
It still runs Saha
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>>173023194
I've already switched to Storm ramp. Already got tired of haven and dshift somehow drawing every removal for every turn.
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>>173023249
Saha is able to survive aggro and midrange easier. Storm can kill dshift and control, it really depends on the matchup
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>>173023310
Scratch that, my account IS there, but it's got no cards or gold. Flairs, name, emblems, and everything else is there, but no cards.

Did they do some kind of restart in the past two months?
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>>173023432
no. Try contacting support.
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>>173023339
It loads up on high cost neutral followers to saha/zell into face. It runs fewer early game followers and nothing like lightning blast. It dies easier to aggro since it only runs the typical removal package and runs emissary but it basically wins if it survives until sybil.
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>Having bad luck rolling daillies
>Draft a decent T2 Haven deck
Finally a win, Octobishop is too good for a bronze
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I just returned from a break, is grimnir really that good?

Also is Kermitcraft any good?
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>>173023194
>most dragons on ladder aren't playing aggressive storm lists of ramp.
They don't need to, since Zell exists.
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>>173023194
>>173023373
Post Storm lists
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>When you meme just right
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>>173023557
It's the Unica of ToG.

>>173023583
The storm list runs Zell as well but the deck is built around making combos with him more consistent.
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>>173023557
Grimnir cockblocks aggro and acts as damage/board clear on turn 4. Everyone except aggro decks are running that chuuni bastard
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>>173023736
Every aggro deck I see runs him.
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>>173018672
>>173021783
DEEPEST LORE
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>>173023736
aggro runs him now too
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>>173023653
>Had an elf player drop a Liza in front of my Forbidden Ritual to "protect" the forest little guys
Sorry for that board wipe bro, take it as a learning experience
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>>173023736
Everyone and their grandmother runs it now no matter what deck it is.
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>>173023557
He's a piece of motherfucking bullshit is what. He slows aggro down so you can take over the game with your bullshit do-everything powercreep cards. I want you to imagine that after turn 10 at any point every follower with 4 def can die. Menawhile, you can't not board because you're in topdeck country of satan/aegis/bahamut/odin. Not to mention that after they fucking bahamut your fucking board and you scrabble to get anything to stop him from attacking you also means your entire board is in range of a DELET from fucking creepnir followed by 13 bahamut face

>>173023194
They do an entire earlygame of damage in one turn

It's hit and miss. More of a counter deck than anything. Performance depends on how much you're playing to win and how much you're playing to not lose
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This meme deck is somehow getting wins

Melvie is MVP because everyone always holds onto their cards for some reason
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>>173023557
He's the 3pp unica/lyrica
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>>173023981

Burn rune is the most fun I've had with the class in a while, inconsistent though
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>>173023981
Because it's gushing do-everything cards maybe?
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>>173023981
>Forest wincon depends on the size of their hand
>Most players have 7 cards in their hand because they are trying to outvalue each other.

Yeah pretty much good shit my mang
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>>173023557
Aggro shadow shits all over grimnir.
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>>173023981
I actually manage to mill them with melvie
Extremely underrated
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>draw no heals, no board clears, no wards, no ToS, no direct damage against shadow
>have to trade into random shit for 6 turns with 2 aegises
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>>173024287
>complaining about trading with indestructible followers.
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Dragon is so obnoxious to play against, never thought a creature based deck would play nothing but board clears every single turn.
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>>173024419
Yeah, they're ultra-haven now
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>>173024419
Hard to outvalue dragon after they reach 10PP
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>>173024419
At least your class can beat them
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Post your favorite non-waifu card. Doesn't matter if it's a monster, a spell, or for its effect, just post it.
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I should be hitting Masters within 5 days and want to expand my range of decks when I get there. What's interesting or fun to build and play? I was looking at Sun Satan as I have 2 Satans that I got from my starter packs that I haven't had the chance to use yet.
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>>173024539
You basically can't
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>>173022016
It wasn't actually Daria that they nerfed, but Rune as a whole. It just hit Daria hardest since the most-played Rune deck was Daria at the time. Their reasoning for the nerf was something like "all three main Rune archetypes three copies of Piercing Rune (so that should ring some alarm bells) and the fact that the card's value is tied to the evolution mechanic means an overwhelming advantage for going second".
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>>173024624
Sun satan is probably strictly worse than sun aegis. Satan seems kind of slow in general now but if you wanted to use him I'd look at ramp.
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I still consistently beat Ramp Dragon with my Aegis Haven and don't get all the complaints.
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>>173024737
Generic version is an easy matchup for aegis, storm version isn't.
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>>173024737
For your own sake I'm going to believe this is trolling and not a real post
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>>173024737
"Consistently" means not every time?
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>>173024624
Satan is a 10pp do nothing, weak body. We already have 9pp do nothing, indestructible. He's only played in Ramp now.
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Anyone got any decks for Tarnished Grail? I really like the Apocalypse cards, but playing Satan in the current state of the game seems suicidally slow.
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>>173024583
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Are aggrobats and royal banner swordcraft still viable for new shitters, or is there a better budget deck?
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>>173024869
Ramp doesn't even need Satan anymore, all the storm damage and beefy followers makes him superflous
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>>173024913
An auto-complete deck is viable for new players.
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>>173024951
I still run a copy because it's great in the mirror, which happens to occur quite often.
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>>173024894
God that's mesmerizing
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38062 7/20
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What decks cuck aggro shadow? Those fuckers make up 70% of maseter ranke and I'm tired of having to play Haven.
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>animated do nothing
Fug
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>>173024832
Not trolling at all. Although I'm relatively new to the game and have only made it to A1 so far, but I lose like 1 game in 10 at most. It's possible that people in this rank aren't running the most optimized versions.
>>173024835
Yea no shit, it's a card game.
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Actually 8 win streak with this deck in AA. Eachtar is so fucking good
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>>173024894
Their amulets are pretty cool.
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>>173024913
Still viable. I do my dailies with them.
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>>173023432
Do you suddenly have a shitload of vials?
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>>173025084
Grats on your 2500 vials
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>>173025084
She definitely has the potential to be top tier in an upcoming expansion. I'd keep her.
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>>173025087
At that rank you're going to see unoptimized decks but they're getting close to the real versions. I replied that way because aegis is a good matchup vs the slow ramp dragon variant which is by far the most common one. Your post looked like the meme from last expansion before OTK roach was nerfed where control sword players (one of the only decks that beat OTK Roach) would say they don't understand why people are complaining about OTK roach. Sure your deck beats it but the deck had 60%+ winrates vs several other crafts.
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>haven mirror
>going first, guess I win
>drop my aegis and evolve
>opponent plays Kaguya and 1/10s my aegis
>stall a bit and then play another one
>win

Why the fuck do you tech for a matchup that is already decided 50/50 at the very beginning of the game?
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>>173025096
>winstreak with t1 deck in fucking AA
wow you must be great
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>>173025084
Jelly as fuck.
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Guys I didnt pull anything good
I think im gonna become a filthy Dshift player
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>Jeanne D'arc
>Dark Jeanne
Oh wow, I just got that. My thinkings not be very good like.
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>>173025363
>in fucking AA
>implying there's much of a difference between AA and master
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>>173025363
Midrange shadow is not t1 though.
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>>173024583
Some great animated cards in TotG.
Love this one for example.
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>whenever other people play Frog Sword they get a perfect curve of Front Lines/Well of Destiny/Frog
>whenever I play Frog Sword all of my frogs and amulets decide to elope and fuck off to another game entirely
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>>173025084
>only animated card that blinks
I-it counts
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>>173024647
cblood can make the ramp lists run out of cards but the storm lists still destroy it.
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>>173025457
Frog is mostly a meme. It's fun and works enough times that it's not trash, but it's not a very good deck by any means.
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>>173025428
High AA is probably better than low masters, people are still trying to climb there. Low masters is just filled with people meming or who got in there early when it was super easy.
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>>173025386
Dshift isn't filthy right now since the best decks in the game atm annihilate it.
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>>173025527
>when it was super easy
???
It's always super easy, all you need to do is to mindlessly play a boatload of games and you'll get there.
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>>173025084
She'll make it real in time. Desert rider must walk the Atomy path
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>>173025527
you're pulling from the same pool of players at that point. the aa2 is probably the hardest grind because you're only getting tryhards.
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>>173025270
While you stall they play their Aegis and win instead.
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>>173025605
A lot easier than it is now, when people were still figuring out the game. If you think it's easier now than it was like last summer you are delusional.
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>>173025386
Well if you want me to kill you go ahead. I could use the wins
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>>173014709

Kept fucking losing as wallet dragon against fucking other decks even other controls like meme sneks and even in mirror dragon

Then I fucking ditch all low-pp anti aggro option and put in as many greedy fuck as much as possible,now I'm fucking breezing but feeling disgusted at the same time.
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Pretty tempted. They just seem so lackluster at this point. They don't even do any unique things that could potentially be broken at some point later.
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>>173025754
Post dick
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Friendly reminder to rope every d-shitter
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>>173025637
Too bad they pur shit cards in their deck instead of card draw and 3x Aegis so they don't have it
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>>173017320
Grimnirs, Dragon Nest, that's it.
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>>173025527
"Better" if you mean more netdecks that carry them even when they misplay. Skillwise master players are still better, they just don't give a shit.
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is snake deck worth it
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>>173025457

>whenever other people play aggro shadow they get perfect curve of skelly doge/conjurer/prince/reaper
>whenever I play aggro shadow howl keep fucking show up in my hand even after mulligan,also cerb,orthus and DoD

Ironically this mostly happen when you're trying to complete ranked daily
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>>173025907
Can get you a few cheap wins, but I wouldn't recommend crafting it from scratch.
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Anyone had any successes with gawain?
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>>173025893
>Skillwise master players are still better,
That's not true, master isn't really a measure of your skill or knowledge of the current meta when you've been sitting in there for a year because you can't drop out. If you are hovering around 0-500 master points you are pretty shitty.

Getting to master has always been a grind, but since you can't fall out it doesn't necessarily mean you are always better than a newer player grinding through AA when you haven't even switched up your decks from 2 expansions ago.
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>>173026019
it seems like its strong against everything other than haven
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>Forget to attack
>Miss lethal by 1 turn
>Get lightning blasted by wallet dragon
>DELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELET
>Every
>Single
>Turn
Boy I sure do love how the game is storm/burn or go home and even then you easily can poorly draw and fall behind their do-every engine
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>>173026067
None at all. Felt obligated to try since I opened two animated ones, but Ramp, Aegis Seraph and Skelly Aggro have served me waaaay better. Even Frogcraft has gotten me more wins.
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>>173025893
Oh boy, its another anon thinks card games require skill episode.
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>>173026067
No because everything he works with was obsoleted by this insufferable cancer
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>>173025794

I just finish my fucking 4 hour session of winning 6 ranked daily so I don't think I would want to get back in there any time soon. It's basically your typical ramp with only 2pp follower being zell and 3pp being aiela. No breath no sala. Everything else is ramp spells,lightning breath and high pp legos.
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>lost game against aegis faggot from masters who went second and still wasted his evolves
>he won by topdecking 2 grimnirs after T10
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Get cucked dragon. Should have saved your boardclear.
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>>173026074
I see AA players make stupid misplays all the time with top tier decks. Low master players use shitty meme decks but they fuck up less than AA players.
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>>173026253
Outplayed. Masters are just better players.
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>It's another episode of "Swordshitter manages to draw both Durandal AND Albert in T2"

How the fuck are you ever supposed to get more than 0 wins in this fucking garbage game mode?
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>>173026308
by not picking forest or rune
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>>173026131
While you setup and play the sneks, faster decks kill you. Slower ones can counter your snakes and fight back. It's not a bad deck but don't expect to much from it. Especially since you won't get a perfect setup every game.
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>>173026131

And dshift.

Also need mad luck since if you draw either moon/snek/baph too late you will die to all other crafts that's being run right now.
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>>173025108
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>>173026308
They only have like 8 class legos and T2 was re-weighted to give you 8 chances to draw 1 minimum
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Man, I want to try that Airjammer deck, but crafting 4 legos for it ( need 1 Soul Dealer and 3 Belph) is a bit much.
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>>173026253
He is master and you're just AA, remember that next time
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>>173026131
My personal experience with it is that it's heavily dependent on your opponent's draw. If they have an answer, you'll have spend the last three turns setting up a turn 6 play only to walk straight into a board wipe.

Also, desu, winning from a concede after you flood the board with serpents just doesn't feel as good as winning by other means. Might just be me, though.
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>sword is dead!!!
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>>173026419
>A2

Try that in masters.
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>>173026295
Master players fuck up all the time, just because you see some players in the AA range make misplays doesn't mean all master players are better than all players in AA. The ranking isn't much of a test of skill, early master rankings are pretty irrelevant and there is a sharp decline in match difficulty between late AA and early master, then as you climb in master it gets harder again. The only thing that matters is really when you actually start climbing in masters, it's not that skillful to just be sitting in early masters with your meme decks.
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>>173026308

Mine was against one faggot that somehow managed to draft otomeme roland doggy fortress gen.

AND managed to play them all in that single fucking match against me
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>>173025770
Yea those are a safe bet to vial imho.
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>>173026406
Winning with 1 broken card alone just because opponent didnt draw an answer is never sathisfying. Except against dshift.
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*blocks your path*
*slices you down with my 4 trillion times folded katana 4 times*
Nothing personnel... kid....
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>>173026510
Nah even climbing masters doesn't mean shit. It just requires you to somehow have an enormous amount of time on your hands and extreme autism. Winning tournaments regardless of rank is what matters.
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Time for suicide.
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>>173026308
What's so good about Durandal? I haven't played against it yet.
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>>173026510
It's not skillful to brag about your AA winstreaks either.
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>>173025108
>>173026352
Yet Dragon keep trying to step on us. The little lizard needs to know salvation by liberation. Glory will soon come to them.
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what the fuck is this new wind god aggro shadow deck i keep seeing suddenly
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>>173026510
Low masters is a joke.
Tournaments are the real deal buddy boyo.
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>>173026642
Good against massive burst damage. Shit against weenie decks
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This complete disregard for you own HP gives me a boner.
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>>173025770
Erasmus can still do a lot of damage until you fill out your card library
I live golem as a multi-ward popper.
Jeanne can stop their token board or help yours survive a trade to white knight it next turn if you're going thick.
Fafnir helps your consistency in an anti-tempo list and helps you stall out where you can outmuscle them while killing their in-hand removal until you stick
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Uhhh, shadowbabs?
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>>173026704
It makes you feel batty
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>>17302664
counters aegis/dragon pretty good if they don't have baha
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>>173026716
I love how the only thing that can stop that is blood moon revelation and winter's caprice.
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>>173026308
Ayy at least you haven't fought 3 dagons in a row with Ouroboros
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>>173026647
That's not really the point, I'm referring to this statement:

>>173025893
>Skillwise master players are still better, they just don't give a shit.
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>>173026642

So far not that impressive.

Maybe a bit useful against dragon but they always run baha so it's situational at best.

Also as a last ditch attempt to protect your ass from getting d-shifted to death.I just wait until my shift is ready then petrify it
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>>173026308
Go second.
Focus your deck curve on 3s.
That's it
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>>173026781
Mutagenic bolt.
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>>173026642

It's pretty meh in constructed right now. Crazy in T2 because the chance of it getting answered is really low there.
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>>173026715
>Erasmus can still do a lot of damage until you fill out your card library
I've got the cards to make every meta deck excluding some Blood lists, because I'm missing Belphegors. I've been playing Saha Dragon before TotG. I don't need cards that are "decent if you don't have a lot of cards". It's just that I'm extremely wary of dusting non-duplicates.
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I love to tease these new aegis player.
Too bad i didnt have the third seraph for ultimate trolling.
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Silly frog doesn't know that frogs are snek's food.
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>>173026781

Or baha

or themis

literally any deck that isn't run by braindead can answer it.

It's what comes after that is hard to prevent.
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>>173026830
Some Durandaral memer tried to stop my Aegis deck. To no arrival, of course
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>>173026704
Vengeance/Storm Vampire is pretty fun. It's actually the high risk/high reward deck that Cygames has always been trying to make with this class.
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>>173026873
He's already basically done.
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>>173026873
Aggro would LOVE that if you use it on them.
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Concede please
98819
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>>173026967
>autolosing to dragon
have fun I guess, you're fighting the bad fight though
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So is Walfrid Lecia's father? Lecia says something like she wants to surpass his dad so I assume she's talking about Walfrid.
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>>173026685
Matchmaking in low master is the same as high master. I've seen guys with over 100K MP get matched up with guys in AA2 just as often as guys with 0 MP.
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>>173026983
The day sword gets some heal it'll be the day of the rope
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>>173027038
I've actually won games with Timeless Witch + Mutagenic Bolt in T2.
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>>173027065
His shit version, yeah.
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>>173026967

Where the fuck are all these haven players ? In masters its all shadow shadow shadow dragon dragon dragon

I keep running dshift hoping to rekt one of these faggots but all it gave me is fucking pedobait and memecraft
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>>173027054
what doesnt autolose to dragon nowadays though?
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>>173026873
>play aggro shadow against rune
>full board of dudes that will spawn skellies
>rune uses mutagenic bolt
>kill 1 rat
>slap win god down
>deal a total of 13 damage
Mutagenic bolt is so bad, you need to kill them right after you've used the spell because you will die if you don't.
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>>173027047
Thanks Eris!
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>>173027235
OTK Azazel
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daily reminder that if you reached masters with a netdeck that means you are a fake master rank.
only if you get 10k master points by the end of the month you are a true master
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Gawain + Walfrid is viable.
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>>173027054
dragon true deck seems are too expensive for my rank.

I prefer it over low cost/budget daria decks.
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>>173027286
Daily reminder that if you don't sandbag, you're gonna regret it.
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Who /honestcraft/ here?
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>>173027286
Daily reminder that no one will ever love you.
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>>173027293
>9 legendaries

So what's the dicklist for Wallet Sword?
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>>173027452
Only dirt is honest. Get cucked by big guy.
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>>173027556
40x Albert
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>>173027592
Golly, it's chilly in here!
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>>173025770
Erasmus is pretty much just obsoleted by his spell version gold which is way more useful in constructed as a removal that can hit stealthed and resistant followers. The spell literally just becomes play Erasmus at 9 PP enhance so the actual Erasmus card's only benefit is being able to play on 8 instead of 9 while not being a 3 PP random removal spell.

Wait, I just realized a use for Erasmus.

Ginger decks. Play as many as possible and you've also got some tempo removal on your ginger plays since Erasmus is an end of turn effect. However, Ginger decks will only be good once we get to the expansion Rune gets a Liza/Lecia type follower. You'd probably play some combination of Ginger, Timeless Witch, Erasmus or Zeus, and a follower that gives allied followers spell resistance.

And now I just realized such a follower would probably work as a fanfare, shit. And Timeless Witch is also a fanfare. What the fuck is the point of Ginger.

Well, at the very least, Fafnir is 100% obsoleted by Wrath Drake and Dragon's many new board clears and big followers. Rune doesn't actually have much in the way of board clears thinking about it, but Mythril Golem just doesn't fit in any deck it has. Jeanne is theoretically a massive tempo swing if coming in as amulets pop and the opponent has a board that would be relatively affected by a 2 damage AoE. Haven however doesn't really play tempo or even try to contest board the majority of the time.
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>>173022650
That's because ToG powercreep.
>20/20 on turn 6 as blood
>Dragon outheals its burn
>Haven is nothing but wards, heals and hard removal
>Shadow's infinite board
>Sword, forest have wards/heals
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>>173027592
>Only dirt is honest. Get cucked by big guy.
You mean "get cucked by any other aggro deckin existence".
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is amulet removal ever worth it teching? feels like it only works 1 in 20 games
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>>173027556
>>173027628

Here you go.

The guaranteed Ta-G pull from Pompous is so clutch.
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>>173027808
Execution no, stuff like Petrify yes
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>>173027808
execution still kills bahamuts
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>>173027848
>otohime as a wincon
>gawain when half of the deck is officers
>palace fencer
>walfred is for buffing officers while he's 8 pp and otohime is 6
>conscription
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Lou finally graduated !
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>>173014709
What deck will grant me eyes on the inside?
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>>173027717
Ginger's for a reina-bombardier board dump and shift OTK
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>>173028126
Rune maybe.
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Candelabra Haven looks pretty fun to play, he used shit like death sentence, pious fox and all that wacky shit. Also for what purpose do I get to see which Apocalypse cards the grail gave to my opponent? That's fucking dumb.
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>>173028071

aggro is the third wincon
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what decks do i play if i want to tilt everyone on ladder
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>>173028126
Bloodcraft is the closest thing you get to Cthulhu.
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>>173028217
haven

aegis+tos is some bullshit
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>>173027808
Neutral: Execution (200 vials), Odin (3500), bahamut (3500)
Forest: Carnivorous flower (200) Sword to woodlands (200)
Shadow: goetia mage (200)
blood: Geryon (200)
Dragon: Dragonrider devil (200 ), Orb dragon (800 )
Rune: Petrification (200), shadow witch (200), Kaleido (50), Rite of exorcism (50)
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>draws forte
>plays forte
>rams it into my 1/1 ward
>stares in disbelief as his Bahamut can't hit face
Rowen is the gift that keeps on giving.
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>>173028119
does that mean her veiny throbbing futa cock finally grew?
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>>173028372
I'm more bothered that he has fucking bahamuts and is doing that shit still than that he misplayed
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>>173028238
I wonder what abilities he's going to get.
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>>173028461
Gotta put so at -9 HP to show off!
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I haven't played properly since just before RoB was released, what have I missed outside of control blood briefly living for a week of RoB and then being kill again.
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>some forest guy fetched Rose Queen with his wolf
>died to a handfull of thorn bursts
Would have died to Silver Bolt as well, but still unexpected
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>>173028512
transform all followers into 2/3 tentacle monsters
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>animated windgod/sun/temple/hulking/dragonslayer in the span of 3 packs
Today is a great day.
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>>173028626
Daria dominated the meta during RoB and OTK forest had absurd winrate so they nerfed them, then Albert carried sword to tier 1. Now ToG came out and 50% of the ladder is ramp dragon and aggro shadow.
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>>173028626
Rune deck around Daria and Roach OTK were both strong enough for Cygames to actually nerf them. still shat on everything for most of RoB, Dragon got some good things to ramp into with Sahaquiel.

Then ToG comes along and so far Shadow and their never ending board-state is by far the best aggro, and Dragon got even more things to ramp into, and more consistent ramp and are winning most of the control matchups, and play fast enough that they can kick Dshifts dick in.

also Craft Grimnir, almost every deck runs it
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>draw 3 rolands against dragon and play them all
>still lose because grimnir
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Is Wind God legit in Commie Shadow?
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>>173028892

Not worth it at all.
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>>173028892
too slow and cerberus does everything better
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>>173028892
It's basically a turn 5 mini-Eachtar,but this one won't get lighting blasted.
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>>173028817
>>173028828
>then Albert carried sword to tier 1.
Funny, I was in the discord arguing with somebody telling me it was a bad card, good to know he was wrong.
>Dragoncraft meta
Sounds like it's worth giving this expansion a pass
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>>173028892
It's alright but if you're playing aggro the deck is probably already filled with too many higher costing cards like Cerberus and DoD that it's hard to put her in. It's better to play Cerberus on turn 5 most of the time too. If you're midrange you're putting her in along with at least 3 Cerberus and 2-3 Eachtar so it's not worth it at all then.
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Gawaincraft is legit guys
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Whats a good sword deck for dailies?
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>>173028965
Cerberus doesn't impact the board on turn 5. There's pros and cons. The pro of wind god is that you're likely to finish the game on turn 5 with her if you have a full board.
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Ahahahah this never gets old. Too much fun.
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>>173029074
aggro banner with as many alberts as you have if you're new or dont have a lot of sword cards

Frogsword if you have the cards for it and arent going against a lot of Shadow/Haven
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>>173015989
>/svg/ called it garbage at release
Arguing that it was a good card was in hindsight a waste of time
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>play aegis to "counter" ramp dragon
>11 damage damage from zell and ouroboros on turn fucking 6
>genesis next turn
>dead

Great counter, Great game guys.
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>>173029235
>play Aegis
>complain about Dragon
How about you kill yourself, shithead.
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>>173029235
if you want to counter dragon so hard just play aggroshadow
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>>173029279
aegis is a literal meme

how fucking bad are you to lose to a turn 9 do nothing? pls stay in C rank
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>>173029235
havenfags have been telling you aegis is shit for days, it's your fault.
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>>173029167
I remember people called it shit because it had normal stats for 4PP and only 2 ATK ignoring the fact that wards prefer HP more than anything else. If you ramp and then play it on turn 3 it's actually better than Ancient Elf since it's more consistent and doesn't require your fairies or whatever to stay alive.
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>>173029235
>countering a deck that's all about getting to 10 PP faster than other decks with a slow ass deck

dumb ass, also dragon renders alot of havens staple removals completely worthless, like scripture, cudgel and lion.
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So how's legit is this new Suicide Blood with Meme Peddler? Will it be the new secret OP deck of the meta like Roach OTK?
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>>173028892
think about it this way

in order for you to get a full 4 damage out of wind god, you'll need a board with four followers

to get the full four damage out of cerberus, you just need one follower
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>>173029350
aggro shadow sucks against dragon and you know it
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>>173028892
She is if you are able to pressure the board early and keep one alive. She's an aggro card through and through. Eachtar has more reach and is better in midrange. In midrange you'd replace Wind God with Goblin Princess.
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aegis should be 8pp
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Sibyl is so fucking cute holy shit I want to hate Dragon but whenever they play her on 5 I cant help but want to lick clean her sideboobs
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>>173029558
that stupid azazel deck will probably end up being the best one once it gets refined since it can burst down the decks that spam healing and has enough removal/healing to compete against aggro decks.
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>>173028217
Considering like 80% of ladder is shadow, Haven with forbidden ritual teched in.
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>>173029750
>80%
Source: your ass
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>bandwagoners without 70k vials
So this is.... the power...of...master rank...wow
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>>173029694
>azazel otk
Nah, it's too combo reliant and need as much set up as Snek. The deck with Meme Dealer seems flexible and consistent enough that it could be a real meta threat, will probably die hard to decks with heavy burn like Daria and Dirt tho.
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>tfw living the dream in T2
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>>173029356
>If you aren't running a preferred matchup deck you're C rank
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>>173029750
>When Haven drops Forbidden Ritual on you and you play Sexton
AWAY WITH YE
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Should I keep this roll from my initial packs? Starting to get sick of resetting.
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>>173029074
Pepe. It bricks a lot, but cheap, fast and has enough free wins to do the dailies.
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>>173029962
preddxy good, only 2 completely useless ones
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>>173029813
>autistic ESL faggot who doesn't understand hyperbole
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>>173029962
it's a good roll keep it
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>>173029882
D0?
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>>173029962
>animated nepnep
Fuck you I'm jelly
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What the fuck am I supposed to do against wallet dragon?
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>>173030156
Play aggro or lose.
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>>173030156
Aegis
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>>173029962
You're fine. Dark jeanne's the only iffy one and the devs hinted in an interview that we're just missing something
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>>173030156
nep him
he only has 1 lightning blast
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>>173029934
>running an inferior 2-drop that is worthless in the vast majority of your matches on the off-chance that some haven player actually plays forbidden ritual
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>>173030156
hope they brick
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>>173030184
does 2 Aegis completely cuck bahamut?
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So when is dragon gonna get a nerf?
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>>173030156
Hope they don't have Bahamut/Blast.
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bahamut in aegis haven y/n?
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>>173030234
>High number of Haven players out at the time I am playing
>Make a minor adjustment to deal with this
>Remove it when not needed
It's almost as if deckbuilding is a dynamic process. Wards off the occasional Lightning Blast. It's not like Shadow has a lot of extremely good drops anyway. The 3 drop slot is the sensitive one.
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>>173030281
Probably by next expansion
They wont hard nerf dragon theyll just release a few counter cards and then powercreep it
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>>173030353
I play 1, it's pretty good
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>>173030156
Doesn't aggro just wreck them? It's all ramp ramp do nothing and all their good board clears cost 10.
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>>173030258
Yes
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>>173030156
Setup your webcam to record and send a video of you guzzling bleach with a you lost to wallet dragon screen in the background to kikegames and the mobile games comission dealio in nipland
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>>173030353
I put in 1. It's good since it's another board clear and another threat on the board at least. It clears out amulets if you need to also.
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>>173030221
>only 1 blast
Everyone runs 2 though
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Is it time to vial nep
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>>173030473
They ramp, sibyl, salamander your board off, saha-luci repeatedly then vomit blasts, bahamuts, odin, israfil, sibyl-fervor, etc. until you give out.

>>173030571
No, it's in the dshift style tier now. It's fine.
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Is there an updated daria runecraft deck with totg cards?
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Please concede. 96481
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>>173030679
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>>173030679
Yes its called ginger now
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Not really into gay shit but EachtarXThane is my OTP.
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>>173030557
2 is not enough to stop a good nep tho.
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>so busy with university that I can't post on /svg/ or play with my wallet Dragon deck

I hate this, worse thing is that all my team mates are hot but lesbians
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You're a big Attendant.
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>>173030819
Yeah it isn't, but a zell on ouro or bahamut is
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>>173030841
at least you don't study math. Womans don't exist in my cursus
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>>173030353
3xgrimnir is better
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>70k vials
Fug
>>
>Drafting 3 frogs in T2
>And 2 balanced Dandy captains of +2/+2

Holy shit, and I was worried that the only lego I got was Roland
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>>173030841
>didnt write any exams this year beacuse I was busy playing this shit

Serves you right, future me
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http://may.2chan.net/b/res/475156278.htm
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>>173030898
I am literally the only guy on mines.
Nobody ever takes this career except females.

Guess what it is.
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>>173030841
Female homosexuality is a meme.
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>>173031025
Why do the nips post so few images on their imageboard?
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>>173031035
Social studies or radiology or some retarded stuff you should feel bad about studying.
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>>173031035
nurse?
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>>173030956
>tfw giving froggo the gem staff
He's the gift that keeps on giving
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>>173030373
You have mummy and reaper which are obviously 3 ofs, the other spots go to Lyrial or Conjurer which are extremely useful in aggro matchups or just push extra damage. I would not underestimate the value of 2-drops that actually do something no matter who you're facing.
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>>173031067
Because they arent memers and can convey express themselves through text
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>>173031119
>Social studies or radiology

Nope, nothing social or science on it.

Im an Archivist and Librarian, for some reason ONLY females take this, most of them are freaking bipolar crazy bitches or are quiet and nice but have some weird fetishes.
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>>173031281
>They aren't memers
They are missing out
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>>173031361
Rowen is forced as fuck
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>>173031281
Why doesn't japanese 4chan have the catalog function? It's a whole mess to search for all of them.
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>>173031331
>quiet and nice but have some weird fetishes.
Fucking perfection
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91329

Need a concede please
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>>173031394
But it does
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>>173031484
>>173031484
>>173031484
new thread
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>>173031179
Oh I agree, and I generally don't like Sexton at all, but he definitely has his place. I only use him in midrange right now because I actually have to be mindful of the occasional Lightning Blast since this deck is slower than a plain aggro. Sexton at the time of release was the most overrated card in Shadow (which was funny when Reaper was just sitting there) but he has his use as a tech card, he did serious work in this particular match.

Also Foul Tempest fucking sucks don't use it.
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>>173031465
Nep is not for lewd
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So after testing with Gawain for a while I've only found him consistantly useful for Cannon decks. Not even joking.

I've been doing very well against decks consistently unless my hands are bad. Even dragon.

White Paladin + Gawain is really nice especially when cannon is out. 1-2pp for 3 damage to an enemy follow or face if you are in control of the board is great.

Luminous Mage + Cannon is also very satisfying since she brings with her a second commander.

Here is my deck, I could definitely make my Bellringer into Veteran Lancers but sword has no reliable way to draw and it's nice to dig a bit so my hand doesn't suffer.

I'm not sure about the Unica's or Cyclone blades though. What do you guys think?
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>>173031483
On a second look I found it, but it's still a mess.
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>>173031595
Seems pretty nice but 3 cannons ins't too much?
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>>173031595
Is maid leader worth playing? 2pp 1/1 draw a card doesn't look convincing.
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>>173031809

It isn't a draw, it's a search and it gets you the commanders you need to fuel cannon.
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>>173031765
Have to get it to use it and it's going to get blown up eventually.
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>>173029279
Dragon is easily worse than Aegis. I could just tech amulet removal against Aegis if it Dragon weren't so oppressive.
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>>173032167
How do you find the time to play them
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>>173030234
>the vast majority of your matches
>useful every time go against Haven
>useful every time you get lightning blasted
What did he mean by this?
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>>173032234
Value a gap or take a nut shot and bounce back?
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>>173016851
>>173016990
>>173017010
>bunch of faggots that don't know how to use shadow without their sticky catacomb safeguard
don't talk to me or the deck i've been playing since RoB ever again you shitters.
aggro shadow was t2 last meta, which is more than you could say about all of your petdecks.

see >>173017067
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>>173032875
>hur you don't don't know how to win without catacomb
>immediately quote post where the guy won with only catacomb

Also I've been playing it since DE and I'm telling you it's an overhyped rng deck. I don't feel like all my games being decided by turn 5 depending on how the game decides to give me cards.
It's slightly better now but it will drop to it's rightful T2 place in a few weeks, where it belongs.
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