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LIVE AFTER DED edition:

This general is for discussing new, old, and upcoming MMOs, or MMOs with populations that are too small to sustain their own generals. If you are on one of these forgotten/niche games, looking for a guild, or friends, or just want to know the state of the game, ask here!

MOs with documented MMO aspects are also welcome here, such as games like Diablo, ARK, and Dark and Light.

Card games like Elder Scrolls Legends, Krosmaga, Duelyst and Faeria are also welcome to discuss here.

Our most discussed games are Mabinogi and Wakfu. We have a game of the week that we all try to play together!

We currently have a guild on Wakfu (Remington) and Archeage (Reckoning) ask for an invitation on this general!

Hi, Jim.

>Recommendations
http://pastebin.com/4ykaqgvu

>Game databases
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm
http://www.mmobomb.com/games/

>Popular foreign MMOs & MMOs in development
http://pastebin.com/iALuQdht

>Popular upcoming MMOs
Bless: http://bless.aeriagames.com/
Revelation Online: https://ro.my.com/en
Dark and Light: http://www.playdnl.com/
Albion Online: https://albiononline.com/en/home
Ashes of Creation:
http://www.ashesofcreation.com

Old thread: >>172616438
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>173002336

Yeah, I have a Cloud Knight. They can do decent damage, and yes, his positioning skills take a lot to get use to, but he compensates everything by having some really nice buffs. The movement buff gives a very high % of crit chance, and the range buffs gives a lot of distance mastery. His teleport shot is very useful as well, but you really need to know how the map and enemy works to be able to fully use it. One of his skills lowers all the cost of his active spells by 1.
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>>173003971

Hopefully we'll have less drama this time and more activity. Last thread reached page 10 way too many times.
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Why aren't modded MMORPGs more common? Or I guess 'allowed addons/plugins' more specifically.
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what's ankama official position about multiboxing?
i'm trying to recover both of my old ass accounts from wakfu asia's phaeris time and while one logged in easily, the other refuses to log in and obviously i can't remember for shit what info i used for it.

am i totally fucked?
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>>173005007

Wildstar gets a lot of shit, and I will shit all over it's place, but it had a fantastic mod and plugin interface. It was so easy to install and play. Shame the game died.

Same goes for Firefall, but more than anything, it was thanks to the modders themselves. They were extremely useful when thumpting and navigating the map, since they gave you a shitton of quality of life improvements.

Man, I miss Firefall. It was one of the most uniques MMO's out there. They completly butchered on the last updates, starting with no being able to change frames on the go. That was MURDER.

>>173005852

Try to recover password anon? The Ankama policy about multi is "is fine as long as you don't talk about it."
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>>173006097
>Try to recover password anon?
the password i had in my old ass email isn't working, at the secret question shows up in french and i don't remember ever writing anything there, and trying the obvious answer to the translated french question isn't working either.
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>>173006416

Send a ticket from the account that works talking about it. If you think is too risky, make a new one and send it from there. If everything fails, don't worry too much, since Phaeris is pretty much a ghost town. If you wish to start all over again, go to Remington; they are going to merge Phaeris and Nox into it, so you should have fun with a fresh start waiting for your items to come on December.
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>>173006732
i just want to log into that account so it isn't destroyed due to the 2 year inactivity warning.

also the one that did enter wouldn't let me log into phaeris either way, and i tried to start the 'migration' process but they left me hanging for a couple of days now.

i'd like to not start from scratch but it's proving to be quite the difficult task.
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Monday sucks, I usually play MMO's with some dumb american series on the background. This is how I got to watch Arrow and Flash, and these dumb series are on hiatus for a whole month. No idea how to pass time now.
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Anyone wanna try gloria victis? Let's kill some players together
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>>173010990

Way too many graphics for my 5 year old rig mate. Sorry.
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ded already
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>>173003535
Why is wakfu and card games back in the OP? Who the fuck made this shitty OP? Go the fuck back to your wakfu general.
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>>173006097
Firefall died when they lowered the amount of events on the open world. People were leveling too fast and instead of nerfing the xp rewards, they nerfed the spawn rate of events.
It was lively as fuck before that and then the open world suddenly died and people were standing around doing fucking nothing because nothing was spawning.
Everything went downhill after that. Especially when they nerfed thumping too. Had potential but developers were retarded.
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>>173016480

The Wakfu general died anon, there wasn't enough people to sustain it. Also, that's Dofus.

>>173016768

The forums are a complete disaster. They post porn and hate speech and no one does anything to erase it. Is incredibly sad. The game had a HUGE scope. So many millions of dollars wasted.

I had so many good memories on it...
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>>173017041
My favorite parts of the game were riding around in my bike. They nailed that down perfectly.
Too bad the rest of the game had to go to shit because the devs were nofunallowed.
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>>173017839

I member the bike/vehicle update. That was HYPE, the controls were so much better after. I had that beautiful red bike for closed beta testers, it was so pretty.

MAN, I miss that game. Goddamn you R5 and your chinese overlords, GODDAMN YOU.
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>>173018969
>Goddamn you R5 and your chinese overlords, GODDAMN YOU.
Firefall, literally wasted potential: the epitome. Really is a crying shame. I had high hopes for it and was really enjoying it.
Every map was a battlefield of constant events going on until they nerfed the spawn rate. That one single change drove people away from the game in spades.
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>>173006097
>>173016768
They could of also released the game out of beta sooner so the playerbase wasn't so fucking fracturered. They could of also not reworked the entire fucking game every 6 months. I tried it 3-4 times and every time there were major system changes. Turns out that is bad for building a playerbase. I would love to know how much money they lost on that game.
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>>173020024
Yes, it was due to those things too but the first major thing that started dropping players was the open world event spawn rate nerfs. Player numbers just kept dropping after that.
I was playing through the entire time daily from when the game was very lively down to the dead piece of shit it became before I couldn't take it anymore and just quit.
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>>173019296
>>173020024

I watched their crappy stream every week. I even enjoyed it sometimes. So fucking sad.
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>tfw Firefall's decline story is going to be nothing compared to Star Citizen's
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>>173010990
Holyfuck gloria victis only $5 on my shithole country
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>>173010990
>>173023069
Was gonna wait for the combat update but I'll buy it soon. Kinda busy this week.
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Can we talk about kingdom of Loathing here?
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>>173006097
Firefall was my dream MMO
>open world
>shooter
>futuristic

Only the division come close. On another note, I heard destiny 2 will come to pc, does that game have open world or hub based?
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>>173023256

I would say sure, but I doubt anyone is playing it around here. Is browser, right?
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Why do you hate Shiny Chariot guild in wakfu?
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>>173023463

Is just (was?) Jim and this other guy that was mad cause no one wanted to join his guild instead. Just ignore them. Shiny Chariot is still recruiting people; hopefully we will not have as much drama from now on.
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>>173016480
I'm fine with wakfu but fuck card game, this is mmog
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>>173023431
Yeah.
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>>173023272
>Only the division come close
The division was pretty fun playing through everything pre-raid with a buddy. pic related was my waifu.
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>>173023868

whatever happened to this game in general? It was ultra-hyped, and then it suddenly vanished from everyone memories.
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>>173023868
Your waifu looks like shit.
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>>173023958
The game is doing fine but not really popular now
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>>173023958
I stopped playing because after one good clear of everything pre-raid I was done torturing my eyes and my friend stopped playing it. I'm guessing that content got repetitive until a general was unsustainable.

>>173024023
pls don't bully my toaster-fu
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MMO with good summoner class that bases its entire/majority of damage/defensive on summons?
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>>173024717
Aion
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>>173024717
DFO has a good summoner class too.
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>>173024937
Is it still active? Last I heard its a dying game.
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>>173024717

Wakfu, not kidding. Osamodas is damn fun to play.
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>>173025030
I'm not a furry though.
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>>173025007
Yeah, they still update it. NA server fall behind 5 months
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>friend convinces me to download and play Devilian with him
>game is dead as fuck

I'd actually give it a fair shot, but damn. There is literally no information or discussion. I'm surprised the 1 server is still running.
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Man My.com was late in bringing the servers down.
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>>173025765
they were never on time
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>>173025765
ikr, right when people are relaxing and enjoying themselves, they bring it down
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>>173026254
In the middle of a mentor session, too.

>>173026064
They were decently on time the past couple maintenance. Mostly, anyway.
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Where did the Wakfuck thread go?
Are we back here again?
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>>173027865
Yes
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>>173003535

How is that autism going guys?
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Mind if I spin a few vague mmo ideas? I'm not sure where else might be a good idea to talk about some of them.

Let's say you made an MMORPG where players always fight their own dedicated enemy when playing in a party.

For example, when playing solo, you fight one monster. When you play in a party, the number of monsters scales up, and each monster attacks a specific member of the party.

When fighting a boss, let's say that the fight is split up between the boss and his minion army and your group, or perhaps certain weak spots of a giant enemy are targeted by your group individually.

Now let's say you increase the amount of loot you get depending on how many players are in the group to encourage group play.

Let's say that players have both abilities they can use in their own attack space, as well as global abilities they can cast on other players in their party. Global spells are given to a player as an optional limited time use ability which they can use when they choose until some condition is met (such as a cooldown, or number of uses).

This way, players are responsible for their own fights but can still support fellow party members. Perhaps the global abilities could combo with each other or with abilities inside the player combat space to make things interesting.

You could do various things regarding victory conditions, like make it so that you win if a certain number of people in the party win their encounters. You could also scale difficulty per player combat instance, so players looking for different levels of challenge could play together.

Finally, you could scale encounters to large sizes (lot's of players and enemies) without turning the fight into a clusterfuck of spell effects and CC and whatnot. Could this work as a game concept, or would people feel too disconnected from each other?

I'm thinking such a game would need to offer the ability to spectate allies, and to have a tactical overview of the battle you could watch as well.
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>>173029769
Sounds like PSO2

more players more enemies and more boss
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>>173029880
I didn't play PSO2 enough to say for sure, but is the mechanic you've mentioned similar to dynamic event scaling in guild wars 2, where events spawn more and bigger monsters depending on how many players are present?

I guess the scaling idea is similar to that in a sense. Part of what I'm trying to imagine is whether this would be a good way of managing latency - effectively, I'm thinking each player would basically be in there own instance, which an awareness of the overall battle being provided by the user interface, instead of placing all of the monsters and players and spells/attacks in one crowded instance.

Actually, I'm kind of wondering if this has already been done in a mud or something, since it seems like a basic sort of concept. Maybe someone tried something already and scrapped it, or maybe there's a game already out there I could take a look at that's doing something similar right now.

I'm not sure if it would qualify as an MMO? Since players can interact with each other but wouldn't be side by side with each other in an active game world other than through the overmap or some other means.
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>>173030581
Yes, multiparty area in PSO2 works that way. Each player will get the own objective but if they're nearby it will be shared.
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revo server is up
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Revelation is ok game, but its company is nexon-tier pile of shit
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What happened to the Revelation Online general?
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>>173025007
Last I checked it fell to Brazilians.
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>>173034019
it died
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>>173034936
More like people have been bullied out of the thread to come here instead.
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What do you guys think of MapleStory?

I'm playing MapleRoyals, a v62 oldschool private server.
It had a pretty big population (600~1000 players on at all times)

Now it's going through an update which will take a while.

I also used to play Dofus, but that game is dead.
Leeching and multi-accounting ruined it.
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>>173037650
Quit when Big Bang happened.
I didn't like what they did with the mage's ultimates.
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>>173037650
>Can I tell you something?
He's going to confess his love for you
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Have a good day.
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>>173037650
What's leeching in Dofus?
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>>173037791
You should get in a private server then. Most of them are pre-big bang with the original 5 classes:
>Warrior
>Archer
>Magician
>Thief
>Pirate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEkF2uvPoc
The power of nostalgia compels you!

>>173037968
Basically just joining high level players and leeching EXP from their fights. You do nothing. Free EXP until level 100+.

Leeching has ruined low level content, people just blaze through it. There's no partying for dungeons or having comfy adventures together anymore.
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>>173038232
>leeching
Oh okay. I had something similar happen in Wakfu yesterday. Some high level wouldn't leave me alone until I let him "help" me through two levels or so.

I had lots of fun doing a two dungeons with other level ~30s yesterday. Hoolahoopiwi and some tree dungeon.
Our party comp was Sacrier, Eniripsa, Fogger, and a Elitrope.
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>>173038232
I tried playing Royals actually. But I do miss the other stuff they added, like the teleports and quests and bosses and stuff.
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>>173038394
The truth is that Ankama doesn't give much of a shit about its player base, let alone the English community (it's foremost a French company).

The fact they allow, and even encourage, multiaccounting/multiboxing shows how they care more about subscription $$$money$$$ than the quality of the game.

People treat Dofus (and its bound to happen to Wakfu) like a single player game. They create multiple characters and play them all at once. This discourages actual MMO interaction and doing shit together.

It seems like the golden age of MMOs in general is 2004~2009.
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>>173039089
The Hero system was a mistake as well.
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>tfw can't contain my anger

I feel like I might be a threat to society, should I just kill myself. Do you guys ever get super angry? Only happens with online games, never really got mad at single player games. And I'm talking slam the desk so hard your PC gets a blue screen mad.
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>>173039345
Galatians 5:22
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>>173039345
No but I knew a guy who did and he threw his macbook across the room while playing League. The Skype call ended and he never rejoined the match.
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>>173039404
No thanks.

>>173039458
Well, league of babies is the most cancerous multiplayer game in the history of the universe, so I can somewhat justify it. And maybe he didn't like macs.
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>>173039262
Not giving free/paid character transfers as soon as remi and nox went free to play was THE mistake, now you have a bunch of rejects on phaeris too attached to their virtual stuff (like me) waiting for a transfer that might or might not even come within the next 12 months slowly giving up on the game again rather than flourishing on a server with real people.

No pinoys and strayans aren't real people.
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>>173041271
The game not being f2p at the beginning was the mistake desu
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMXjVeyMP-s4Lzi_1hCoz68zjr9edeMQl

This is the spinoff Academic, the Ray Mechanic.
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>>173039345
>getting mad over vidya james
maybe learn to control your emotions anon
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>>173043237
How do you deal with the issue?
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>>173043952
What issue?
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>>173023221
Yeah I'm on a similar situation, busy week. But in the event someone plays, we should drop our IGN and the faction. Personally I prefer the midlanders lol but I believe you can change faction on game just by killing guards or something.
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>>173044876
Apparently ismirs have an over population from what I read so I'm probably going midlanders when I start.
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How do I stop being a social retard in MMOs?

I tried jumping in a conversation in the world chat but everyone goes silent afterwards.
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>>173045626
>I tried jumping in a conversation in the world chat but everyone goes silent afterwards.
Just don't stop. Evantually someone will reply. Of course don't spam either.
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>>173045626
>being the convo killer
I'm sorry anon, there is no help.
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>>173045809
>world chat talking about their anime
>flows into manga and doujin
>thats when i jump in
>ask who their favorite shota artists are
Where do I go after that?
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>>173046014
Tell them you like boku no pico.
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>>173046014
haha the absolute madman
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Is albion online fun?

I like PvP and character progression
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>>173047000
>I like PvP and character progression
Then no. Albion is a PvE game.
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>>173046014
I like Katou Yun
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>>173045626
Just stop treating it as if you're jumping into a game of double dutch. Just state your opinion bitch and keep it moving.

>>173047000
There are no good free PvP MMOs.
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>>173045626
Stop caring so much about stupid shit like this
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>>173037650
I'd honestly rather play the current maplestory (only the korean/jap versions though) rather than play the old ones.
I mean the modern game isn't as good, but holy shit is the private server community always fucking trash.

Also isn't mapleroyals permanently dead? last time I tried joining they fucked everything to hell and back because they jumped to a new source.
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>>173047000
Nice trips. It does have character progression but without character levels. You level up your skills which can be combat skills (v.gr. using swords or staffs) , crafting skills and gathering skills.

I believe it's fun but since it's getting a wipe on June I don't want to play that much.
>>173047130
Albion is mostly PvP with full loot in red and black zones.
>>173047319
Albion is not free.
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>>173047663
Current MS lags like a bitch though. It's probably the code, it's poorly written.
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is revelation dead already?
i didn't even start playing it
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>>173047823
GMS runs like shit, kMS and jMS don't because the use Xigncode (which by itself is shit but whatever), while GMS runs three different ones, one which is inbuilt, one which is external and one which is god knows where the literal fuck.
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>>173048523
Really?
I only lag during certain times so I assumed it was the code.

For example:
1. Playing the one class that's all about HP, I think it was demon Slayer. All his skills apply a buff to you for every monster hit, except whenever I hit anything I lag. I'm guessing that it's because it tries to apply 10+ buffs at the same time. Either way my CPU jumps to 100% every time I hit anything.

2. Opening the quest and world map. It's because it tries to load ever single quest in the game and checks if you've completed it or not. Same with the world map, it loads ever single map in the game.

And the worst one:

3. Pets picking up items. I read that it was because it checks your quest list if that item is a quest item. And since it checks every single quests it lags.

I haven't tried kMS or jMS so I'm not sure if it's the same there.
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Thinking of buying KR nexon acc from mmos.com.
Is it only way to get acc? Seems pretty expensive but it's all I can find.
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>>173049096
There was one website that lends out korean phone numbers to make accounts in Korea. I forgot the site though.
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>>173049096
That one is expensive. Get it from newgameway or epicnpc
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Nothing will come even close to the joy of killing new players in Tibia and stealing all their shit just for moments later to start begging you to give em back.
>pls stop
>stop
>no pls
Pay armor
>drops armor on the ground
>mfw even easier to kill.
Fun fucking times.
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>>173051425
>both early Tibia and Runescape
>there will never be MMO like that
>both are ruined now
;_;
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>>173051425
Don't you stop when someone starts begging? i only continue if they keep talking shit.
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City of Heroes 2 when?
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>>173053860
Right now bro!

*releases City of heroes 2*

Enjoy my dudeguy!
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>>173051425
Hunted
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>>173045184
But doesn't that means that midlanders are getting ganked a lot? lol
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Where'd Wakfu Oasis go?
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Between Tera, BnS and [Inser game here]
which action MMO is less dead and more PvE oriented?

Thinking of getting into something new but f2p
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>>173056870
Tera might get a small spike of players when the new class comes out Soonâ„¢.

Don't know anything about tits and soul.
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>>173056870
Tera is great combat and some of the best tanking in a mmo IF you're a lancer.
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>>173057202
>tits and soul
>not Boobs 'n Soul to match the BnS acronym
one job
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>>173057506
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>>173056804
Ankama killed us because there wasnt 3 players logged in a 6 month period
which is wrong, as I logged in every 2 month on my 3 acc
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>>173057764
File a ticket
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>>173057764
twenty minutes
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>leveling without booster pack
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>>173057202
>>173057271
danke
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>>173056870
BnS is for babby because lock on and dodge stats

Tera is more alive, they're powered by elin hater tears
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>>173058957
>Tera is more alive
just NA or both NA and EU? can't play on NA because of the latency
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>>173059112
Lots of EU bros play on NA. Less than 300ms is playable on PvE.
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>>173059112
>EU Tera
I'm so sorry.
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>>173059249
>Less than 300ms is playable on PvE.
>just a bit over 100 and everything feels clunky and unresponsive
not him but come on
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>>173057991
Why? its possible that they looked at unique IP rather than accounts.
Also guild was so ded it was sad to even log in
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>>173059497
I speak from my personal experience. I even do some CS in the past and wreck shit with lancer and zerk. But I understand what you mean when I taste low ping on kr server
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>>173056870
GW2 instead tbqh.
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>>173060392
>>173025485
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>>173060496
Furries don't exist in gw2 because the race with fur is hideous as fuck. Instead, we've got plenty of ratfuckers/pedos.
So you'll fit right in pedo.
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>>173060392
pre-ordered GW2
regretting it to this very day
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>>173062291
Same, but with WoD and Legion, and BDO to some extent, although I did have a fair amount of fun leveling, until I quit.
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>>173062291
GW2 is how I realized mmos are fucking dead and there's no point in putting in any time or money into future ones.
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>>173051425
What was Tibia like, I only played for like, 5 minutes, didn't like the UI or style and stopped playing.
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>>173063319
>>173062291
GW2 wasn't...terrible..but it def didn't feel right. I didn't like any of the skills, none of the attacks felt like they had weight by them. It just felt..off.
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>>173062291
i sure hope you preorded heart of thorns too
what a fucking mistake that expac was
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>>173064971
I stopped playing forever a month after release of the base game, didn't buy anything ever again from them
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Looking for a game that has comfy crafting, resource farming professions, exploring, and combat.

Daily events at certain times would be fun too

I've played a ton of runescape and looking to see what else there is.

Also, hopefully this game has a lot of active players and isn't dead.
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>>173067230
BDO I guess.
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>>173064891
It wasn't terrible, which was actually the biggest reason that MMORPGs will never be a thing again. Even though GW2 strayed from the path quite a bit, MMO fans could not stop shitting themselves over "WHERES THE ENDGAME" "RAIDS??????" "DAE WANT MORE FASHION??"
How are we going to get any solid MMO when all the industry fucking wants is WoW 2.0. Any game who tries to be different will be punished until it starts catering to the "used to be WoW players".

Yes, there was a million little things GW2 should have improved on, one of them being the weight of abilities. But these could have happened over the games life had players not been typical MMO-tards who demand shit like Raids and additional gear tiers because they can't possibly fathom playing a game without chasing some bright color text on an item.

tl;dr - mmos are dead because none of them can flourish unless they're WoW clones but with "more action".
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>>173067334
>>173067230

Forgot to mention that it has to be toaster friendly.

I haven't tried BDO but from the looks of it. It looks like it requires some hefty stuff.
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>>173067495
Yeah, tough luck, it's also poorly optimized on top of having hefty requirements.
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>>173067334
is that game even alive anymore? last time I heard of it, it was dying slowing and painfully because of incopetent devs.
I hope to be wrong cause I love myself some mmos with good crafting
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Who will be playing this?

http://massivelyop.com/2017/04/03/record-of-lodoss-war-online-is-launching-this-week/
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>>173067230

All of that sounds like Wakfu my friend. Add nice graphics and huge lore.
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>>173068278
>Massive iop
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>>173068278
Looks like shit.
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>>173067230
Mabinogi
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>>173067495
revelation online
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>>173068278

I fucking LOVED the Lodoss War anime (the first series) back in the day. Specially the first episode, since it was D&D+anime blended beautifully. Also, Deedlit was my waifu.

This game is garbage, not only the classes and art direction look completely different from the series, but is a complete gacha box grind24/7 chinese style designed MMO. The animations look like trash as well. So sad, so, so sad.
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>>173068192
Well a lot less people play it than before, but it's really not dead. Also considering it's more of a solo player game, besides the PvP, which you can find all the time.
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>>173067356
in 10 years there will be new clear headed players naturally. There's also an army of weebs who can't care less about WoW and this army grows every day. There's also more and more english speaking players around. There are already people who never played WoW, just like people in /a/ who are proud they never watched Evangelion, according to all those bragging threads at least. So what do? Become niche for the time being until all this human garbage accumulates again and harvest them all at once. Repeat every 15 years. Competition with another multiplayer games isn't really that much of the problem, problem is time wasters are scum which is hard to pull of on the same people twice.
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>>173067495
>>173067578
You can make the game look shit but it won't help
Have a jeweler npc on the lowest settings
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>>173069281
ah I see
might look into it if it's not too expensive, thank you
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>>173069583

It looks kinda charming desu.

I would fucking kill for an action cell shaded Wakfu MMORPG. If they do combat as anything close to the series, we could have next generation Dragon Nest. FUCK IT, make it 2D goddamn it.
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>>173069880
I'd kill for merged Wakfu servers desu
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>>173069791
There's a 7 day trial, and you can ask in the general for a guest pass for 7 more days (once). I'm pretty sure the trial has no limitations, or if it has, they're barely noticeable.
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kek
friend who works at paypal mentioned to me that my.com company related purchases and transactions are getting mass refund/chargeback requests
what's up with this? what memes did I miss?
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>>173071665
their auto ban caught lots of whales
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>>173071665
>>173071849
over 1000 whale bans
I repeat
1 0 0 0 w h a l e b a n s
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>>173071665
revolation is shit and not even whales want to stick around
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>>173071972
Really?
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Whoever posted this picture, can you post your IGN? I remember hanging around in this bag a lot but I forgot your name.
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>>173072191
>>173071972
>>173071849
for whales do you mean really really really fat people or was it a slang for something else?
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>>173072769
Fat people obviously.
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>>173072631
I believe they said they were from Phaeris
>>173072769
You must not play a lot of F2P/cashshop mmos
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>>173072769
you ever play Link's Awakening?
it's like that
if you haven't played link's awakening you should, it's gud
fuck the photo system though
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>>173072769
whales = people who spend large amounts of money.

They're most likely fat too.
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>>173073020
>>173073067
>>173073223
>>173073503
it's just that I confused myself on a population with a slang that kind of sounds like whales but I couldn't remember. And yeah I played alot of MMOs but never seen that term being used to mean people spending alot of money on it, I'm not english so I use a different term to describe them
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>>173072191
https://ro.my.com/forum/thread/45321-mega-thread-auto-banned-again/

whale says otherwise
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>>173073067
I know, I'm from phaeris too
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>>173072191
What happened?
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>>173073705
The term is usually just premium players. The whales term was memed into wider use by clickbait articles about mobages, facebook farming, csgo boxes and so on. People who experienced a cultural shock from discovering gaming and now they keep bringing money like the devs are their family are such a juicy topic. Overall people who buy to win do it knowingly, of course.
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>>173064971
>tfw i actually got into gw2 when it went f2p
>the fucking restrictions are actually more annoying than any chink games
>decide to actually buy HOT on release everyone's sucking Anet's dick and I haven't spent money on MMOs since WoW
>it turns out to be the worst mistake of my life
>quit game 1 month later
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>>173076434

I recommended a friend to play Firefall with me. He went all the way and bought a 100$ package... we don't speak anymore.
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Does Remington have people active at all levels?
Is Sacrier useful at end game or is it still just Earth Feca or nothing.
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>>173004923
I'm s-sorry anon, I use the catalog so I don't know if our thread is on page 10. Still, right now this is the only general I visit and I love you all. We're all lost seeking for our dream mmo, but here we're family.
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>>173076994

As the thread says, we have a little guild on Remington with 51 members. Just leave your name for an invite. Level and experience doesn't matter, though, you gotta know that most people are under lvl 70. Sacrier is decent to good nowadays. Good geared and good knowledge of the new revamp will put you up there.

>>173077064

Don't worry anon! I love you too anon! To know what page the thread is, install 4chanX. It'll tell you a LOT of handy things, like page, number of IP's (48 atm) on the thread, etc, etc, etc.
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>>173076994
Sacrier just got a revamp. From what I've heard it's viable now for endgame.
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>>173077372
Yeah if I don't start over with my roomate I'll just transfer over one of my 100+ characters. Fucking Phaeris is dead as shit. I can't make myself level from 120 to 170 completely solo.
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>>173077720

I was originally from Phaeris. I stopped playing for 2 months, and when I comeback, my whole guild was DED. This was shortly after the server transfer. I tried playing again for months, but MAN, Phaeris is a wasteland. I could go to Sufokia, walk all over the map from the boat to the outpost and see FUCKING NOBODY. It was that dead. Just an abandoned bag on the corner of the outpost, nothing more. I said fuck it and rerolled on Remington. Man, what a difference that was. Remi was booming with players left and right on Astrub...

This was years ago, I recently came back and started playing a bit again. The many changes to the systems and map have made it miles better to play than before. Don't worry about starting all over anon, the new experience is pretty nice.
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whats the general opinion on TESO?
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so i'm that guy from early on the thread wondering about the migrations and account recovery shit.

managed to log into my old character (161 iop) and realized phaeris is indeed a fucking wasteland, but i haven't played in so fucking long i haven't even finished exploring all the shit that changed in that time.

seeing i was still somehow in my old guild, and there was a bunch of 200 people, i imagine the cap reached max a while ago. is it worth it to start from scratch in remington or something (another friend is doing so) or wait for the eventual server merge?
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>>173078375
also a tl;dr on changes i might haven't' notice yet?
i stopped playing 2 years ago for that matter and is phaeris down? i can't seem to log in now.
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>>173078606
I logged in just fine. You just might have to try more than once. You probably forgot how shit the client is.
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>>173077720
>>173078375

Your characters will be transferred over on DECEMBER. You can either wait that long, play on the (sadly) dead server that is Phaeris, or play from scratch on Remington and enjoy the new player experience on Astrub.

As a guy that started new on Remington, and loved the game, I say yeah, go ahead, is worth playing all over again to enjoy the million changes to the game like it was a new game altogether. They keep adding new quests under lvl 100, so the new stuff should be quite charming. I specially love Mimi, the new character on the Zinit quests. If you are into the lore, you'll even find Khaz as a ghost, and you play Gobbowl with him.

Again, if you do it, leave your name to invite you to the guild. Most people on it are either new, returning or starting all over since the transfer announcement.
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>>173078375
Max level cap happened about a year and a half ago, when they dropped what they were doing with the divine dimensions and instead made Moon island.

The start of the game has been revamped quite a bit, including the Mt. Zinit quest which now has a proper story. Astrub dungeons were changed so they actually present some challenge for players.

Things should be fresh enough to keep you entertained if you decide to start over. The server merge is tentatively happening in December anyway, so by the time it happens you should be at your old level anyway.
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Tell me a story /mmog/
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>>173080562

My first virtual gay experience was on Grand Fantasia. He was greek.
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>>173080562
26 years ago I was born, The end.
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>>173078045
overall fun but either shit dungeons or the community that is so shit it makes you hate them, I forgot which one but I more prone to the latter
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>>173080685
neat. Did he insist on using olive oil for lube?

>>173080798
>The end
but I thought the wild ride never ended?
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>>173081440

Well, he made me cum on his boypussy and then asked for me to eat the pie from it. I refused since THAT was new to me, he was sad 'cause of it. We did it a couple of times later. He was a transmodel for a little magazine, though, he did it just for fun; normally he was a bottom, nothing more.

He wanted to break the relationship with my gf to be his, but I loved my gf way too much to do it. We stopped talking some time later.
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>>173080562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms2klX-puUU

Also tarantulas supposedly keep frogs as pets according to some guy in the comments.
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>>173081858
So it turned physical and then he tried to get you to leave your gf? wew.

>>173081954
I feel as if I should have seen this long ago.
>frogs as pets
>tfw pepe is merely queen spider's puppet
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>>173037650
>tfw find maplestory in middle school
>spend after school training with your pals in slim tree
>Buy eachother NX gifts for birthdays

This will never happen again :'(
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so why can't revelation online maintain a general?
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Because it's shit.
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>>173079083
Is Rogue or Masq viable end game? I either want to level Rogue or Ecaflip.
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Anybody still playing ragnarok online?
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>>173084860
It's dead, next question?
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>>173084928

Man, the road to endgame is so HUGE, you shouldn't worry about who is viable and who is not. Asking on the forums everyone will tell you that every class have it's function, and YEAH, there are your typical min/max dorks sperging about their superior limb based combat, but you should always ignore them.

Play whoever you wish, whoever you think suits you best, be it on gameplay or roleplaying.
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speaking of wakfu, returning fag here.

apparently after the iop revamp, fire/air is the way to go but my faggot ass character is 100% earth/air, should i even bother?
i don't have enough of the shitty things to change the elements to swap all my gear.

did they ever develop a less autistic way of getting the right elements or to make the whole rune thing less grindy?

i didn't remember how many mechanics this game had, holy shit.
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>>173086780

Spells don't gain levels anymore, so all you need to do is just changing gear. They made it so you can save gear builds, so just touching a "page" you'll suit up to all the gear and spell choice instantly. If you are focused on one character, this is delicious, since it gives you all the freedom you want, and another incentive to hunt more gear.
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>>173080562
I used to love MMOs but now they all feel the same and demand more time than I can use for games.
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>>173067356
Turns out when you don't follow the traditional class system and don't adjust dungeons accordingly they turn into shit. I remember figuring out how to cheese all of the dungeons. That shouldn't be a requirement to do what would be traditionally fun content.
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>>173047808
Are you running solo? How often are you getting ganked in red/black zones?
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>>173055919
>lol
Stop that.
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>>173092806

XD
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>>173093121
fuck, you beat me to it
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I need a new MMO to try. Give me some ideas.
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>>173094760
Try a dick LMAO got 'em
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>>173094760
Check lotro for me. They say the stull existing lorefag players are too loyal to ever kill off the game.
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Anyone here played Graal Online? I Paid for it years ago and it sucked a lot. The demo they showed you was almost all the game and the GM were all corrupt.

So /mmog/, have you had any bad experience like that with a MMO?
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>>173098027
I played Graal a bit back in high school. I never did pay for it though, just dicked around with the demo and talked to people.
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>>173098027
I recall this one game were you could pick from a swords man, magic girl and a beast claw man and summon troops into battle. It showed so much promise but after you 5 or 6 levels you found out there was not anything to so.
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>>173094760
Private RO Server
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I want to play RO again someone suggest a server that hopefully you're also playing on
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>>173078606
that might have been when the phaeris servers moved location or whatever it was; if your login info is right, you'll probably have to contact support to see if they can recover it
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>>173089993
It's very half-baked of them. They're too scared to depart from certain things, which made the aspects they did depart from in regards to other mmos (class system) seem worse than they actually were.
Dungeons should have never been a thing in that game. Fractals were the right direction, but they left that shit to rot for the longest time.
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>>173086780
Every time they rework a class they give that class a free respec.
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>tfw no mmo to waste time on
The last one I got into was BDO, but the problem was I started playing a few months after release. So right as I was getting all my gear to +15 and getting some decent accessories, boom now you can get shit to +20 and people who saved up a ton of resources for that occasion just killed it for me. Was pretty fun overall too, just didn't enjoy gathering or the stamina system that forced you to make alts for crafting/workers/nodes. I'd be fine with ignoring it if leveling those nodes also didn't increase the fucking drop % of rare items you could otherwise grind for hours for reee. PVP and PVE were so fun but after the update you just get demolished even faster because of how AP scales.
/blog
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>>173101870
Tera, LaTale, or mabinogi. Are alright time wasters. Namely mabinogi and LaTale.
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>>173102063
I played mabinogi a lot when I was younger, maybe I'll give it another go.
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>>173071972
Somebody call Greenpeace because holy shit, that's a lot of whales.
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>>173102243
Try playing on that R sever if you want to start a new char.
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>>173102456
Ruri? Wasn't that server dead?
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>>173102497
That's the bear sever.
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>>173102497
Ruairi used to be the most dead but now it's just the third dead out of four.
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>>173102636
what's a bear server
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>>173102497
I just read the pastebin. Join the A sever. We have a guild there.
>>173102724
Tarlach. Cuz he changes into a bear at daytime.
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>>173102817
Fuck Tarlach. I remember having to run to that faggot all the time, and it'd always be a race against time that I'd usually lose.

I also feel salty that there's now a QoL teleporter next to him so other people can't feel my pain.
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>>173102967
Ya they made it super easy now. Back in the day you had to wait until night time to use moon gates and having a mount made you a god.
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>>173103160
I started playing around the tail end of the moon gate shit. Good times.
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>>173103160
>super easy
It's super normal as opposed to super stupid, before. By that logic instead of putting out better rewards for the party play, devs just make solo rewards tiny while party rewards are normal and yea it's unrelated and I'm mad.
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Just read a review about how corrupted were the GMs of Gloria Victis and how the devs don't care about players exploiting bugs on the game. Is this true? I was about to buy it
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The only non-dead MMOs are WoW, GW2, XIV, ESO, 07scape, and Star Citizen.

What a shitty industry tbqhwyf
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>>173104809
Maplestory isn't dead too. There's still a crap ton of player.
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>>173106096
No it's dead. If you can't even get 100k subs on reddit the game is fucking dead Jim.
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>>173078375
wait, phaeris accounts still exist?
i can't even check mine cause it won't let me log into phaeris cause it's not my region now apparently.
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>>173106457
Cool if you tell your wife 10 years into marriage I love you bb every hour but people don't usually do it. It's one of those games that is played on and off for years. And you are trying to count actively fanboying members of such a game.
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>>173077372
Can you invite Polyflip to the Remington Guild?
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>>173104809
>Star Citizen

I suppose something can't be dead if it doesn't exist yet.
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>>173109379

Sure mate, are you online? Give me 5 minutes.
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>>173003535

Is kinda sad no one got the Iron Maiden reference.
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Apparently Guild Wars 2 just abandoned everything E-sports because no one ever wanted to participate. DED GAME:
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>>173104809
Star citizen isnt an mmo
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>>173102063
>mabinogi
I suggest not to, unless you want to spend a lot of real money on reforge-lottery. They remade the dungeons, but you'll need to ante up your gear and that means reforges and enchants.
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>>173117479
Reforges for piercing? Mobs are the same, but with higher protection and they come in mixed groups of 3+3 instead of 6 of the same kind.
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Are there any diablo clones/arpg mmos that feature an open world (i.e. not instanced, you run around grinding and shit and see other people) like mu online? I think devilian did this as well but that game is dead as fuck
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>>173116210
I don't really like gw2 but good for them. Fuck league of legends for having massive success with e-sport and making all other companies try to enforce e-sports into their game too.
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>>173118606
guild wars was doing e-sports before league of legends existed you fucking retard
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>>173118230
I think there's one in development called Albion Online. They might have some kind of buy-in beta thing, I've never played it
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>>173118813
albion is nothing like diablo
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>>173118902
>nothing like diablo
it's an isometric game, so it has the one similarity.
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>>173118902
But if you rearrange the letters in Albion you get Diablo.
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>>173119675
Oh shit nigger, I'm going to need a quick rundown after that revelation.
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>>173118112
they also kept old ver. dungeons in the storyline
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>>173068278
This looks really interesting. I like the top-down style and the art really reminds me of some of the older games in the genre.

It's really hard to find good info about the game and there seems to be barely any knowledge of the English launch. I wonder if it's going to be full of questing or is it a grinding game.

I think I'll have to try it out tomorrow.

>>173069236
>but is a complete gacha box grind24/7 chinese style designed MMO
Source? Sucks if that's it.
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>>173067356
No MMORPG has managed to make it about the journey so everyone keeps focused on the end goal. When the journey is as shit as it was in something like GW2 people are going to expect endgame. It is the way we've been conditioned to believe and act with how the genre has been for years. Everyone thinks leveling is some chore that you need to get out of the way.
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can I get a quick rundown on revelation online?
I just heard about it today

I noticed there doesn't seem to be a general, which is concerning
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>>173103780
It's a small thing where a quality of life change took a lot of the flavour out of the world.

Sure it was inconvenient that you used to be able to only use them at night time but they were called Moon Gates and that was a thing. It was something you accepted and played around.

Not everything has to be about quality of life.
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>>173121458
is gook p2w shit with trion/nexon tier publisher, avoid
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>>173121584
ok thx
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>>173121458
Generic chink game with nothing special to offer
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>>173121458
>revelation
It's fucking great never hurts to try it anon I love this endgame and I haven't spent a cent
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>>173122107
Endgame in a month? What are they going to do with all those bored people?
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>>173119675
>N=D?
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>>173122452
no one has even hit the level cap yet
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Anyone trying this out tomorrow?
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>>173125746

ctrl+f anon
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What the fuck is this Ragnarok Journey?

Some shitty browser based cash grab on the RO name claiming it's going for the nostalgia or some shit? Ridiculous.
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>>173003535
Archeage, Wildstar, TESO, AoC or GW2?

Which one of these is the most worth playing?
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>>173126632
Depends on what you want.
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>>173126657
game forcing players to group up

its the only way for nuMMOs to feel like MMOs
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>mabinogi math
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>>173126632
Archeage is ded till 4.0
wildstar is dead
AoC is dead

Pick between ESO and GW2.
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>>173127256
Maybe BDO, it kind of forces you to group for endgame / pvp.
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>>173127648
>Archeage is ded till 4.0

why is it dead? didnt follow Archeage for a while
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>>173127713
archeage is always dead 3ish months after a fresh start, the whales are achieving their final form and the competitive guilds are dying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpCWHxBUSxs

Technically the server isnt truly dead until it becomes legacy, you could try playing it but you would be so far behind it wouldnt even be worth it at this point. Not to mention archeage is imbalanced p2w gambling shit. I RMTed out with most of my guild a couple months ago.
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dont get me wrong, archeage is a decent fotm meme every fresh start, but its completely unfit for long term play due to whales and top guilds being able to lock everyone else out of progression if they get ahead at which point they can free farm world bosses uncontested and their advantage spirals out of control.
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>>173127256
Afaik there's no modern mmo that forces people to group up unless it's for instanced dungeons/raids/pvp.
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>>173125746
Does it have PVP?
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>>173127648
Guild wars 2 is only active at certain times of day, and mainly during NA peak as you might expect.

At quieter times, even if you are advertising a LFG for content which is fairly in demand (like low level daily fractals) you can solo whole fractals with ne'er a soul joining.

The same applies to the open world. If you play in NA peak periods there may be enough going on for it to feel interesting. If you are playing internationally, it may feel like a ghost town quite a lot of the time.
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>>173117057
Yes it is.

>>173116210
They should have never gone down that path in the first place. PvP is way too chaotic to ever be a real esport, but they should still put resources into PvP. It's extremely fun in GW2 but has a lot of glaring problems that could be solved if they stopped throwing money @ esports.

>>173128307
Whales are one of the biggest problems in f2p mmos. It's kind of scary how much power they wield.

>>173129350
Well its an edge case, but in Marvel Heroes they automatically grouped people who entered the same instance. You stay grouped until you disband. In GW2, you didn't need to be grouped because everyone shared XP/resources anyways but for about ~6mos after launch everyone was partying with each other randomly. Still not forcibly though which I think is necessary in the day and age where MMO players expect some automated matchmaking component to group them up for everything.
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>>173068278
kek, rereaded it last month.
I fucking love first 2 stories, but mmo sounds like shit
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>>173134209
Modern mmos don't really have forced grouping in the way that you couldn't do most of the shit in the game without a group like in FFXI before it was 'modernized'. It was in the genre's core design that you would be expected to group up to progress through the game. That's why classes that were like 99% support oriented could exist.

In a Post WoW world MMOs are basically really bad singleplayer games until level cap.
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will bless online ever get a real launch date to the west?
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>>173134521
They said they are remaking the combat and that it will have more content that the Korean ver. So it may take some time.
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Ragnarok online, someone, please
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can someone invite Lalitas on remington?
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>>173134521
Never ever
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MMOs died with UO Trammel expansion, SWG, and classic Everquest.

All these modern MMOs are just single player games with people in the background.
Despite classic WoW being pretty decent I blame it for ruining MMOs forever.

>You will never relive the glory days of Ultima online
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>>173138261
Holy shit, those graphics looks like shit.
I'm glad I wasn't born too early to play shit games like that.
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>>173138363
Actually if you were around to play those games you would have viewed them in the same way you currently do about the massive WoW cinematics. It's kind of interesting how things work out that way~

>>173138261
One of those situations where a single entity takes over and no one can think of anything else. Pretty much what killed Titan too imo.
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>>173016768
>Had potential but developers were retarded.

Name ONE (1) mmo where this is not the case
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>>173138363
Gameplay doesn't age, graphics do.
Modern developers focusing on graphics rather than the mechanics of the game is the cancer of the gaming industry, however graphics is what sells and is the most marketable so you can't blame them.
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>>173138849
Dragon Nest. There was no potential and the developers are retarded.
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>>173139176
>Gameplay doesn't age

But that's wrong.
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>>173091835
I was in a guild with territories on black zones but they kicked me out. My guess is becaues I didn't logged on a couple of days. So I guess now I'm alone in the world.
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>>173139176
>Gameplay doesn't age, graphics do.
I never really understood this. What do they mean when it 'ages'? I hear it in vidya too like, 'the game didn't age well'. The fuck does it mean?
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>>173140356
It means exactly what it says.
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>>173140650
Games aren't living things. They don't age.
Did you even go to school?
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>>173140702
Games have release dates, which is basically their birthdays. They age.
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>>173140761
Yes but they stay the same. When someone ages it means they change. Games don't change.
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>>173140356
Think for example on nintendo 64 games. Wow, they were great, right? Real 3D and everything!, very nice graphics. But play today some of that games, and you'll see the truth, they weren't that pretty.

But take some other game, maybe with pixel graphics. Sure, it's not 3D but maybe still looks great, even compared to some recent games.
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>>173140901
But games do change as years go by, and the games that are "old" just haven't caught up. They are old.
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>giving away all these free (you)s
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>>173141197
You can have one too!
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>>173141130
So the games themselves don't age but your perception of them do instead?
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>>173141283
You too!
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>>173141331
I mean, games are software, and software doesn't decay with time you know? When someone says "this game has aged well" it's because even if it's 2017 still leave you a good taste.
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>>173141510
I still don't get it.
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>>173141801
Maybe you're just not meant to get it. Don't worry, be glad that not all of us are as stupid as you!
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>>173141801
Prob cause you're retarded
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>>173141801
It's not that important anyways. Just another form to say that an old game is good even if it's old.
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>>173142080
>>173142094
^ )
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>tfw already bored of the new D3 season

Lost Ark or some shit fucking whennnn???
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>>173143424
not an mmo
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anybody tried out life forge orpg?
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is there an mmo with difficult single player content/end game content and has decent animation?
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guys im in a hurry and cant dig through a bunch of games / posts right now.

which mmo right now is 1.alive 2.'free'

i need something to do but if i start digging through games im going to be here all day not playing anything
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>>173144993
Habbo Hotel
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>Coming soon to WAKFU! Your profession level will scale with your profession EXP. Therefore, if you are level 100 you'll then be level 115!
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>>173145779
Why though?
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>>173146069
Who knows
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i want a porn MMORPG that's more than just ERP
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>>173145413
>>173144993

guys seriously im going to have a panic attack if i dont find something to do
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>>173148021
Play tibia or runescape with your browser
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So what's an mmorpg with;

>fun gameplay
>tab targeting combat
>good sense of progression
>decent/good animations / story

and doesn't have/isn't;

>shit cash shop
>p2w style model
>easter mmo/anime pandering garbage

I've played WoW enjoyed it a lot over the years but think I'm done with it now, never could get into GW2 / ESO or Tera/Rift, recently tried lotro but the animations/graphics are dog shit
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>>173146718
Are there even any porn MMOs out there.
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>>173149550
There was a porn MUD somewhere. I stumbled upon it in the /d/ thread for porn games.
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Oh boy.
New Tera class on the 11th.

Can't wait to play for a week, get to max level, then quit because there's nothing else to do.
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>>173140901
>Games don't change.
what is
>Tibia
>runescape
>wow
>lineage 2
and most mmo. you can argue that PvE l2 and PvP wow isnt really changing tho
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10
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>>173156751
Wakfu killed yet another general
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>>173157389
Wakfu is not important.
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Late, but haven't forgotten.

Have a good day.
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In three years /mmog/ will become obscure enough to merge with /indie/,
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>>173144090
Just play a singler player game.
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>>173152005
>needing a week to hit 65
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>>173158732
indie > mmo anyways
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>>173159252
There's a bottomless pit of Indie games you could be playing instead of MMOs, and yet here you are.
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>>173159252
>>173159440
I can't ever get into indie games
>FTL
>stardew valley
>undertale
>terraria
>super meat boy
>dwarf fortress
none of those interest me
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>>173159527
try a cute story driven action like Transistor or Bastion.
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>>173160638
Or hard light drifter.
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HNNNN-
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Amazing how ridiculously good looking you can be in this game.
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>>173130604
Yes
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Is mabi worth playing if I'm looking for something comfy?
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>>173163209
>>173164482
thicc
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>>173165465
It was pretty comfy 2 years ago when I used to play, I imagine it's still comfy.
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>>173164482
If your character is created after last summer and has that new tutorial quest, lvl 200 rewards with this cute newbie wear set, which is also could be sold for 1,5-2m to get something else.
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>>173165939
>new tutorial quest
The one with Lorna and Pan? Yeah I got it. Cool, no spoilers please O w O
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>>173165465
Yeah its pretty comfy.
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>>173166431
How did you make your UI like this? I only know how to change its color palette.
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>>173166805
?
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>>173167051
Hehe ripperoni
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>>173167253
That's what I was talking about. How neat!
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>>173165939
>mabinogi
>elf
ew
>>
All this talk about mabinogi almost makes me want to get back into it, either that or ESO, but I heard ESO is getting a revamp with morrowing and that putts me off
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>>173167253
I honestly can stand mabinogi's UI, especially the chat window(s). Fucking shit this is awful.
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>>173164482

I'm sorry anon, but you REALLY think that is looking "good"? Gross
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>>173168349
Yeah, lady in pink is my favorite on that image.
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>>173167914
I hate the chat overall, to fix a typo one needs to delete the message all the way to it. And notes. Nobody ever sees them, why not to add mail-like icon/notification? Ancient garbage
Also this adorable collision of generations.
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Anyone play FFXI? Got into trying it recently and it's the kind of game that makes me nostalgic for something I never even experienced.

How hard is it to be a bard? Buffing is my jam.
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big guy
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>>173165678
>>173166431
Thanks, installing. Should I pick any specific server?
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>>173039345
You see, it's good that you found about your issue thanks to a game.
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>>173169973
Alexina
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>>173169494
Combat is terrible, it's not open world, graphics aren't comfy at all, and their general and the guilds are one of the worst ones ever.
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>>173169973
Join Yotsuba
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>>173170006
What do you mean, considering the issue only happens during games?
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>>173169726
You call that tiny thing big?
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>>173170494
Ah yes, world bosses.
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>>173170442
Now that you are aware of it, you can help it.
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>>173170334
Sounds like XIV.

Combat is better than EQ at least. Haven't seen a general for XI outside of /v/ and haven't seen one of those in awhile which is why I posted here.
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>>173170358
It's our guild on Alexina.
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>>173170494
>that's what she said
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>>173167419
>not being a smug elf
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If someone else here is still playing Wakfu then invite Plumpmanyl in guild please.
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>>173139176
>>173139795
>>173140356
Gameplay definitely ages but if we look at the past 10 years it's a lot less noticeable than if we look at the 10 years before that.

Like if we look at the games on Atari or other old consoles they had hardware limitations that put limitations on gameplay.
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>>173167419
I was stupid enough to waste 2 character cards of my account on another servers, and then I derped again by rage deleting them. But still have 6 dudes and was able to make exactly all three races both genders type characters because why not.

Free cards are great for their pocket and bank space, so for the purposes of witnessing another servers personally it's better to create another account. Now this is an interesting moment, it's legal to have multiple accounts logging in from the same IP, and it's also legal to use multiple computers with different accounts from the same IP together, at the same time. Such a family friendly game! kek This is some sort of common law and isn't in terms of service, but it was on old forums, ans I just saw the same discussion on the newer ones. Besides the fact I, too, have a spare cheese account full of event diamonds waiting for spirit weapons being great again nobody banned.
Anyway, it looks like the single related thing that is bannable is fucking with the client which is normally runs only one game at time to open more than one process.
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>>173176530
Give me a few minutes, I'll send the invite.
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>>173177858
*you receive a 1% blessing to your data processing ability*
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>>173029472
I'm finding a Gobball focused Iop deck to be quite successful.
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>>173149631
probably hellmoo or the other clones of it

I think parasite infection has an online variant as well

They're all shit tho
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>>173180291
I see you being happy, and now I must say people still report each other if it looks like an obvious abuse, like one stronk and cute player + 3 stock newbs in newb wear no talents besides expert blacksmith or similar easy expert talents runs of hard Conflict SM there they are moving to altar one at time, and I don't know the results of those tickets.
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>>173183574
Good. The law is just and so are the citizens.
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DED
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>>173188007
Your MMOM
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>>173190405
gottem
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Meat.
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DEAD
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Should I bother following the main quests on wakfu ?
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I guess I'll preinstall the closed beta client for MXM.
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>>173068278
>lodoss
I'm going to play. Supposed to be like an old school Asian mmo which is exactly what I want. Group focused grind and world boss drops.
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methodwakfu is down shit
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>>173196513

Is good for the xp, the special items, sometimes costumes, relics for more kamas and xp, and on, and on. Is also FUN. So yeah, if it is your first time playing, go ahead and do it all.
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I often browse these threads so I can find what is worth playing in the mmo genre nowadays, and every time I read through these threads, I leave empty handed. MMO's are dead, and have been dead for a while now.
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>>173197378
ur right
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>>173197378
>looking for new stuff to play in dead games general
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>>173197378
There's nothing unless you want to sink hours of your life into a shitty weeb mmo like half of the faggots on here.
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>>173197378
Play single player games. Better way to spend your time.
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>>173197378
This is the shitty dead game general for shitty dead games that can't keep a general for themselves.

The only thing you'll find here is autism and loneliness, and sometimes waifu posting. which is a combination of the two.
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>>173198482
I want to marry myself!
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>>173200142
You can't marry yourself if I marry you first.
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>>173200142
Do you tho?
Could you honestly stand to be around yourself?
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>>173200302
>implying he isn't used to it already
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>>173200142
Kizuna pls.
>>
This is the comfiest general.
>>
ive been in comfier desu
>>
But this is our general.
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DED thread. Gonna upload cute cards from Krosmaga.
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>>173205523

CUTE
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>>173206571
>urge to /pol/ post intensifies
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>>173206818

BONITA
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>>173206818
>being a faggot
>>
cards games aren't mmos

also ragnarok online next private server when

REVIVE /ROG/
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>>173206871
build hedge wall
Keep going. Don't let my shitposting stop you

>>173206963
it's 2017, being gay is okay
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>>173003535

Not many people know or have seen the tier 3 cards. They look quite fancy, and their animation when summoned is more flashy.

This is eva (my gf) the only infinite I have ever crafted just 'cause I'm a Cra fag.
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>>173206871

The legs are everything.
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>>173207428

How many melt with short hair girls? Is my weakness.
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What the fuck, you lose durability on armor just doing simple shit like playing music? The fuck?
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I also did this one for our Joris fangirl, but she is MIA. Shame.
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>>173207810

ENIRIPSAS HNNNGGGG

The card art look kinda derpy though.
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>>173208018
That's what you get for rocking too hard.
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>>173208527
I want a higher res version of the Alargix card art.
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>>173208527
>>173207810
>>173207428
>>173207290
>>173206871
>playing a shitty p2w card game
thats pretty pathetic senpai
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Anyone here play BDO?
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>>173210193
join baka
>>
We will be playing this new MMO called Lodoss War Online. Uptime in 30 minutes.

Discord: https://discord.gg/2wvENss
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>>173211716
jesus christ this game looks like shit from those 1990 gauntlet arcade games
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>>173212289
The way it look is precisely why it looks so interesting.
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>>173213080
It looks like a browser game.
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>>173213080

People have come to believe this, when in reality is just because is literally a cheap chinese game.
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>>173214948
It's probably true.

But if it's truly an old type cheap chinese game then it's more interesting than the modern mmo. Not like I lose anything by trying it out.
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>>173214948
>implying cheap korean games are better
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>>173215204

Who implied what? There was nothing saying korean games are any better. Why are you defending this shitty game?

>>173215062

Even this guy haven't even tried it and is already claiming is "more interesting" than modern MMO's. Ooh, the delusions. Not having a MMO to play is seriously giving you brain damage.


One of these idiost of MMObomb or MMOHut already tried it a million years ago. They said it was complete generic garbage, but go ahead. Eat it all. Choke on it.
>>
>>173215723
who is this semen demon
>>
Why would MMOs post news on their Facebook page instead of their website?
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>>173217357
To get likes from normies.
>>
>>173211716
>cant even log in because of invalid id errors
>>
>>173218984
I can't even get the site to load.
>>
>lodoss war online
>aion
>lineage 2
>elder scrolls online

pick 2
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>>173219669
death
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>>173219724
rip in piece
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>>173208403
>they used an end game scene to showcase Joris

Ankama, what are you thinking? You're giving away so much if people haven't seen the movie.
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>>173220107
Friendly reminder to join /vg/ (our) guilds.
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Post games with good economies besides EVE

I am addicted to making money
>>
Anyone playing nexon KR games or soul worker JP? I want friends ;__;
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>>173220194
I have a boner for economical simulations too. Hope to run a business in real life one day.
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>>173220192
give linkshell
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>>173220204
>nexon
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>>173219669
Lodoss any good?

I saw that it was getting released but I'd literally never heard of the MMO before.
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>>173220885
Nexon KR and JP are decent companies actually.
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>>173143765
I tried installing but the visuals were buggy and the menus weren't displaying.
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>>173003535

Holy kek, these achievements looked impossible when I started the game, and now they are so cloose.
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>>173219724
soon
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>>173221082
k
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>>173221082
I'm a bit behind I'd say.
>>
>gender locked classes
F
>character locked classes
U
>can't edit the body type or even the hair
C
>no customization on the way the character looks at all
K
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>>173221584
DFO?
Yeah, it was a shit game anyways.
>>
>>173221696
>DFO
>no customization on the way the character looks at all
?
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can i get a quick rundown on lodoss online
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>>173222105
>looks like a browser game
>plays like a browser game
>is not a browser game
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>>173068278
>isometric
>moving at a diagonal doesn't move you parallel to walls
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>>173220204
soul worker is dead my man

What game do you want to play on nexon kr?
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>>173222487
Well fuck.

I've been trying out Maple Story 2, Arpiel and I'm downloading Closers right now.
>>
Any games similar to Heaven and Hearth?
Like a survival game.
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>>173211716
>discord
Yea no thanks.
>>
>>173222908
There's the crafting autist paradise known as Wurm Online I guess, but as anon's pointed out in a previous thread it's pretty ded.

[insert flavor of the month totally not Rust, DayZ, or Ark]

Not sure how many similarities it shares since I never got very far in H&H, but you might be able to find a nice multiplayer server for Project Zomboid. iirc it's chock full of survival shit with base building and farming, I barely tried the multiplayer though.
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which of you fags is it
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>>173223623
>implying normies don't know wew
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>>173223617
Isn't Project Zomboid still in alpha? I think I'll wait once it's a full release.
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>>173223671
This.
Even reddit uses it now.
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>>173223675
I believe it's in beta now after looking through the steam news feed, but I actually forgot it was early access. devs seem to still be active on it with a update rolling soon and honestly the single player is probably the least buggy EA I've played. I don't blame you for waiting till it's eventual release, but personally I don't think it's bad and I've put in 270 hours into it from majority solo play (which does admittedly get dull after you have the meta-approved nice zombie-proof hideout with a gorillion pounds of food and nobody to share it with).
>inb4 not an mmo
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>>173224074
I'll try it out then.
But if I don't like it do you have anymore survival games? I don't care anymore if it's single player but I want it to be either isometic or 2D.
Also please nothing similar to MineCraft clones.
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>>173224223
Durango, not out yet
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>>173220941
I don't get the hate for Nexon US/Europe, at least their support is nice.
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>>173225076
>at least their support is nice.
When was the last time you got help from them?
When I played back in 2004-ish it took them a year to respond to my ticket.
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>>173225179
This year, 2017. They were very professional.
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>>173225076
I send a support ticket last year and still no reply. At least EME took only 3 days max and blizzard have a fucking live chat
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>>173225253
Copy pasted replies aren't what I call professional.
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>>173225262
>live chat
I wish more games use this for their support.

Played MapleStory a few months ago and I had a bugged item in my bag. Couldn't sell it or drop it or anything.
Sent a ticket and no reply for 2 months. I complained on reddit about their horrible support and their CM forwarded my support ticket and it got solved in a day.
It's fucking disgusting that I have to use a 3rd party website and have to get help from their CM.
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we ded?
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>>173067230
ONLY Mabinogi. Fits precisely your description.
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>>173227697
>mabinogi
>not ded
lol
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>>173067230
Mabinogi has exactly all that, also player housing and tons of fashion.
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>>173228001
>also player housing and tons of fashion.
Which you have to pay for.
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>>173228154
Nah, homestead is free. Some cosmetics you might have to pay for, but honestly you want the game to make money so that it lives on.
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>>173228154
I think you're talking about that house were you sell stuff. Because homestead is free.
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MMOs are so fucking ugly and graphically age horrendously. Why is this the case??
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>>173230315
So people on toasters can play them too.
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>>173230315
So the players can identify them with their lives.
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>>173230315
Cause amazing graphics aren't the point of playing mmorpgs.
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I tried playing Haven and hearth but the controls are so clunky.
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Wakfu is kill again? that was fast FotW
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>>173230315
>graphically age horrendously
That's usually a consequence of trying to do "realistic" styles. They'll be sort of shit at release, but get progressively shittier as time moves on.

Games with their own cartoonish style don't age so badly. Look how long it took WoW to change update their models, and a lot of people still preferred the old ones. All because they had a cartoonish style that would look about the same regardless of the year.

But most MMOs have a tight budget and they want a lot of money, so they just make crap assets and add every shader in the book. Crap assets don't age well in general.
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>>173235849
Like Blade and Soul. That game looks hideous. It aged so damn fast. BDO is another where I can see it's already starting to look dated. WoW is a good example of it being done right. Good point about the abysmal assets too. With the help of addons too, WoW's UI is flexible enough to remain modern.
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>>173236228
There truly is nothing that will ever beat it.
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>caring about graphics
>in mmorpgs
>in any game for that matter
Caring about visuals are for shallow "gamers".
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>>173237734
music > story > gameplay > graphics
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>>173237816
Personally,
gameplay > music=story > graphics
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>>173118230
Path of Exile
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>>173239386
not an mmo
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>>173239475
Up for dispute.
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Wakfu or Mabinogi,what's better to play without friends to invite?
Only thing i know from wakfu is a turn base strategy like FFT,and mabinogi has fishing stuff.
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>>173239602
Mabinogi. It became a solo game.
Wakfu is still focused on group play so get friends, spend real money or multi client to get anywhere.
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>>173237734
So I take it you only play dwarf fortress?
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>>173240564
DF is fun for like a month.
Then it gets stale.
So you add mods to have fun again.
Then it gets stale again.
And repeat.

But really though, I never cared about graphics. I'm willing to play a text based game as long as the gameplay is fun or if the story is interesting.
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>>173240851
DF's gameplay loop is actually pretty tremendous.

Stating you're willing to play a text based game != you never caring about graphics. If the text based game had a hot pink background with yellow text, you'd be whining just the same. Graphics clearly then have an impact on your enjoyment of any game.

So cut the shit over "I never cared about graphics, I'm above it all", you ain't. You're just another delusional cunt who likely believes that 'graphics' can only ever be used in relation to uber-realistic aesthetics. lmao
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>>173240564
>not playing proper text games like Aurora
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>>173241165
>icons
too graphical 4 mi
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>>173241165
>aurora
Shit nigger, I used to play that when I had a decent screen.
I stopped when I had to use a smaller screen. Couldn't resize the windows and installing it was pain.
Did that change? I'm willing to play it again, it was my favorite 4x game.
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>>173241158
I guess you're right, if a game is just flashing lights I wouldn't play it since I get headaches easily.
However if a game like that does exists I doubt it'll be a good game anyways.

So I guess the 'I don't care about graphics' was the wrong choice of words and I should say that graphics is pretty low on my list to find a game enjoyable.
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>>173240564
I play everything if it looks fun, including dwarf fortress.
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>>173241158
>So cut the shit over "I never cared about graphics, I'm above it all", you ain't
>that mental gymnastics
We're not talking about appealing graphics. We're talking about overemphasizing graphics over other aspects of the game. Stop that strawman shit.
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>>173241158
>If you don't like the concept of eye burning colors on your screen then you obviously prioritize graphics hurr durr look at my armchair arguments
How fucking stupid can you be?
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>>173243010
He's probably underage, grasping at straws just trying to come up with arguments for the sake of arguing.
It's pretty apparent to anyone who isn't a retard. Just ignore him.
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>>173237734
>muh nostalgia
Graphics add to the experience. You can have good graphics with good gameplay ya know.
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>>173237816
>>173238319
>story
>in an MMO
just go play single player games
gameplay > graphics = music > story
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>>173244641
Wakfu has an interesting story, same with Dragon Nest.
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>>173244641
>making the "if you like stories just go read a book" argument
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>>173244857
>majority of MMO stories is just the generic "you are the chosen one" even though there are thousands of players
>shit tier halfassed lore complete with generic elves, dwarves, orcs, and furry races
yea no, fuck off
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>>173245150
Yes, so you see that stories are important and we need good ones.
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>>173245362
No, stories only work for a single player perspective to indicate your importance to the overall plot. They don't work for multiplayer because everyone has the same background and it makes little to no sense why everyone is a hero that eventually becomes godlike. You as a player should be a mere pawn, a soldier in an army, which is why there's 10/20/40 of you that's needed to take down a dragon.
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>>173245835
Well, all you did was critique the average story and suggested a subjectively more pleasant alternative. It sounds like the story element is important to you, after all.
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>>173237734
I found myself having the most fun was when I had my friends to play MMOs with. The mmo can look like ass and have point n click combat but aslong as I had my friends it was fun doing stuff with them.
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>>173246089
I made a suggestion so that what you actually do in game would make sense. It's still an afterthought because I'd spend most of my time EXPERIENCING the game through combat, visuals and audio. A bad story wouldn't ruin gameplay, and in my case wouldn't ruin the game for me. It'll just be a minor annoyance, one that I've learned to deal with throughout the years.
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>>173246767
Ah, I see. But you do enjoy a well built world, don't you.
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>>173246580
Oh at least someone understands what mmorpgs are sopposed to be about, the social element. Too bad modern mmos and people who play them don't realise this.
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>>173246862
Only visually, at least in the case for MMOs. I've grown to ignore reading lore texts throughout the years.
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>>173245150
>>173245835
>he's never played asheron's call
>has only played mmorpgs with generic storylines where you're the hero
Just because you have bad experience doesn't mean all mmorpgs are like that. Although you are right in that majority of modern mmorpg story and lore is generic as fuck now.
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So wakfu it is, at least for while.

I'm going to play as an Ecaflip's Coin, whatever that is .. I thought the idea of a gambling trader who's constantly losing everything would be kinda cool, but it looks like 'trader', contrary to the games tagline, isn't actually a class/profession. Its either that or some kind of psudo-occult card reader.

Speaking of which, is there much of a roleplay theme in the community? I'm not looking for anything heavy, just an atmosphere in which to have fun and throw about a few ideas.

I'm not opposed to paying the equivalent of a monthly subscription, about £15, on things. Whats the general view of this? I don't see it as paying to win, personally, but at the same time I'm very unlikely to buy vanity items.

To what extent is it possible to invade other regions and fuck up their ecosystem? I'm thinking of that clan member thing, if we could significantly influence opponents game worlds there would be much potential for 'player generated content' political shenanigans. It seems that all you can really change is the EXP bonuses professions receive. I'm hoping its a little deeper than that.

What kind of advice can you give a complete beginner (who's yet to even download the client) regarding these points?

As a side note, its really funny to notice how we react to change. For a long time I've been of the opinion that the classic classes in RPGs are getting boring as fuck, the 3 or 4 element magic system becoming cliche, etc. But when I encountered the weird ass names of Wakfu classes my initial reaction was of repulsion.
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>>173247425
>I'm not opposed to paying the equivalent of a monthly subscription, about £15, on things. Whats the general view of this?
You'll be supporting the game. Thumbs up.
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>>173247425
>>173247625
Best part about you spending money on the game is that we all get to benefit from it.
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>>173247425

You have many questions anon, and also, many misconceptions. Let me know when you get the game. We are playing on Remington, leave me your name to invite you to the guild and help you better.
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>>173247425
>To what extent is it possible to invade other regions and fuck up their ecosystem?

You can steal all their resources, and if you had PvP active during that and the nation was an enemy one there would be no penalties at all. But, at this point in the game it's guaranteed someone has seeds for any tree/herb/crop/mob in the game so at best you only remove a small damage/HP buff from players in that nation for a while.

If you don't have PvP active you'll become an outlaw which means a big white icon over your head, and you can't use instant transportation while in that nation. If a guard sees you he can kill you and you get banned for a few minutes from that nation. And that's all.

>is there much of a roleplay theme in the community?

There's a few people who do that but most likely they do it in private. Game has a lot of areas for it though, like bars and secret rooms that serve no other purpose.

> I thought the idea of a gambling trader who's constantly losing everything would be kinda cool, but it looks like 'trader', contrary to the games tagline, isn't actually a class/profession

Ecaflips aren't traders, they're just gamblers. The class used to focus on spells and effects that rely on RNG. They were revamped and the RNG factor was reduced.
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>>173215936
Shiny Chariot from Little Witch Academia.
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Are there any decent looking MMOs on the horizon? Nothing that's likely to just be samey chinese/korean f2p shovelware. I'm craving that feeling where a new general pops up and everyone is discovering the game and having fun together. That's always the best.
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no.
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>>173251575
Albion
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>>173251731
Isn't Albion Online always going to have the problem that if you P2W, you start in the new league before the other players?
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>>173251575
Are you telling me you want a gorgeous looking game for free? It won't happen anymore, ever.
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>>173251948
No, that's the opposite of what I said. p2w kills a game for me so I'd rather it be b2p or even p2p. I just want it to be good. I'm just asking if there's anything on the horizon that looks promising and isn't likely to be chinese p2w garbage. I looked at the upcoming games list but it's hard to tell since the trailers don't tell you much.
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>>173251834
wont matter in a month, the only real advantage to starting early is buying city plots
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>>173251575
>samey chinese/korean f2p shovelware
Might as well just quit the genre right now.
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>>173252131
They still trying to sit on both chairs at once. Come back in a year.
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>>173252540
>>173252576
I just want to have fun and make friends
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>>173253471
Its the community that makes the mmo. Doesn't matter how shit the game is or even how low the population is, a good community can make even the shittest mmo fun. They don't even need to be your friends. What you want is an mmo and server with a "good" community.
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>>173254434
There's some truth in that but the game is very important too. Tree of Savior had one of the friendliest communities I've ever seen but the game is and was absolutely garbage. The community made me stick around for awhile but the game was boring and that in turn killed the community.
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>>173254434
>>173254601
Let's play gloria victis. The game looks a ton of fun to play with other people.
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>>173255517
Man I was on that boat but I read some upsetting review on steam written by someone who claimed he gave 2.000 usd to the game and was very involved and all, and he said that GM were corrupt (because they played the game on some guilds) and that when the devs don't do nothing if someone exploits the game bugs to its own benefit. But still, it does look a ton of fun...
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someone should also put Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen in the upcoming section of the OP, game's looking so good
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So why are so many here desperate for friendship? Why are you trying to fill that void in your life with mmo friends?

Just curious.
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>>173256375
It's pleasurable to interact with other human beings in a comfortable environment.
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>>173255517
What's Gloria Victis? Sell me on it and I'll likely be in.
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>>173254601
Yeah I've played some pretty shitty mmo's myself. I remember playing early Fly For Fun years and that game only had 1 real raid/raid boss at the time that you could only do once per guild/clan. The rest of the game was just one big treadmill of grinding to the next level killing the next monster all while quest being dried up after your last job change. There was pretty much nothing else to do and this went on for years. Only reason I stayed was because of how hilarious and fun the community was where people would just hang out in random places and do nothing together.
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I can confirm that Lodoss is a piece of shit. It's a buggy mess that made me restart the client 3 times because the scripted events stopped working or something didn't load correctly which prevented me from doing anything other than move. Game is DoA
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>>173256631
Why with MMOs though? Why can't you do so with literally any other genre (that permits chat) or activity in life?

Basically, why are you such a loser that you have to turn to MMOs to fill the void? Just curious. I see a lot of people here talking about community, but from the looks of it most of y'all are pretty abysmal beings and are the toxicity in most online communities. Therefore you're chasing after a balloon not realizing that your entire body is made of pins and needles.
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>>173256375
Not everyone is looking for friendship, just to play games with other people. You don't have to be friends to chill out with random strangers in a game that might be enjoyable to play. you know, like 4chan.
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>>173257042
When you play an MMO you know you share an interest with literally everyone else in that community. Chatting is easy and there's reason to hang out beyond just hanging out. It's like when you make a buddy in school because the teacher made you partners for an assignment.
I don't know why I'm replying
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>>173257042
It's the environment. Virtual platform for interaction and communication is humanity's great achievement.
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>>173257004
>which way is northwst
:3c
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>>173256375
I'm lonely?
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>>173244402
He didn't state otherwise?
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>>173259051
The post i replied to literally said graphics don't matter in any game. I said it does, because it enhances the experience
>t. anon with shitty reading comprehension
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>>173259628
>>>/v/
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>>173259628
You're calling reading comprehension while you yourself are guilty of it.
VR support being available in most games doesn't matter, but it's still a nice addition.
Graphics don't matter if a game has good gameplay, but having nice graphics is also a bonus.
Something not mattering doesn't instantly make it irrelevant.
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>>173141331
>So the games themselves don't age but your perception of them do instead?

what type of autist are you that you don't get this?

People talk about media aging all the time (movies, shows, songs), not just videogames. Do you seriously need people to spell out that they're talking about the perceived quality of the media and not the literal media per se?
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>Albiononline.com
>You can freely combine armor pieces and weapons in our unique classless system – you are what you wear.

I think this is why I'm becoming cynical about gaming. It all seems to be about selling an identity these days.
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>>173260804
>bringing up the VR meme
most gamers don't even have VR headsets, not to mention the amount of space and equipment needed to fully utilize VR tech

Graphics do matter, especially if a game has good gameplay. You wouldn't enjoy a graphically impressive game nearly as much if everyone was a stick figure. You couldn't even tell what the fuck was going on for some games like dark souls if everyone was a stick figure.
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>>173244790
Shame the awful gameplay ruined that story I was actually interested in.
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>>173223748
What the fuck? Nothing is fucking sacred fucking normgroids WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>173267512

Anon, even "normal" people say "normie" nowadays. Wryy too. Saw a female streamer spouting it the other day, and she was cute.
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>>173267512
The rabbit hole runs much deeper than you think.
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>>173269493
That's actually sad.
I'm just gonna go ahead and be a plumber or something.
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MXM in closed beta after being mass advertised on twitch two times and there's literally no hype or discussion anywhere. Shame because I'm actually enjoying it,.
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>>173269824
Is it actually fun?
Toaster friendly?

I'll try it during an open beta if my computer can run it.
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>>173269824

I will only ever try it if the requirements are lower than Heroes of the Storm. My rig is +5 years old now.
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>>173269962
Yup, my PC is pretty awful but it handles it well. As for fun that's always objective. I will say that the controls are very smooth and clean which I appreciate after years of slow and clunky games.
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>>173270185
Well, I like ARPGs, and I put like 2000+ hours into Smite before Hi-rez fucked it up.

I'll try it when I get the chance.
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>>173265301
So what you're saying is... VR doesn't matter?
>The post i replied to literally said VR* don't matter in any game. I said it does, because it enhances the experience
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>>173272562
>trying this hard
no, current VR tech is awful and isn't suitable for most games outside of gimmicky shit like spooky games or 3D sims.
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>>173269824
I'm keeping an eye on it, but I don't feel a dire need to play another MOBA when i can just play league or doto.
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>>173265130
Why? I don't understand. Items have skills associated with them, it's just that.
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>>173272562
>arguing with a vindictusfag
lamo
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>>173275152
>participating in the "which way games should cut the corners" discussion at all
done 1000 times, still has no ultimate solution
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>>173275515
>which way games should cut the corners
don't allow stockholders and publishers into the developer room
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>>173275639
Why not? At lest they care about bringing a lot of players to the game and making it profitable.
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>>173255517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0kc3jZho44

game looks like a much worse version of mortal online right now

>that massive lag
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>>173278067
>this is an actual MMO being made in 2017
wew
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This is the /r9k/ of /vg/, prove me wrong
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(you)
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Is there any free mmos with good player housing?
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Lodoss reporting in.

The game had it's fair share of lag and DC problems on the launch day. There are some literal WTF moments like no direct trading with people and party loot distribution options boiling down to ffa, round robin and random allocation. The questing is absolutely fucking horrible.

But to the good sides. Party leveling is absolutely viable. Even more so it seems like the better option. And there seems to be a lot of varying difficulty places to level so you can pick what fits your party size and comp.

The class system is fairly simple but also has some interesting shit in the form of chain skills. Hard to explain in a simple fashion but basically you get to choose from a couple effects that are class specific and have certain triggers. For example I had a chain on my Magic Armor buff that gave me some +dmg +crit chance and a chance to multicast my spells.

If the developers are willing to support this and add some basic shit like trading and better loot distribution then I think it's going to be quite an enjoyable party grinder.
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>>173251834
>>173252420
Albion's premium makes your gathering twice as fast.

You won't be able to compete anywhere near the top without premium.
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>>173278067
>>173279448
It's still in early alpha and there's a combat update coming soon that has new animations and improved syncing which is getting tested this week. So if it's all good the update should be within the month or next.
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>>173281671
>subsciption is p2w
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>>173281820
>buying ingame gold for real money is a "subscription"
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>>173283470
>oken
>plex
>bonds

All mmos are p2w and have been since gold sellers came into existence. If you want a 'fair' game you are in the wrong genre.
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>>173283769
>"thing isn't pay2win"
>it is pay2win
>"woow everything is pay2win nowadays, deal with it"
You forgot to splurt "It's like EVE online"
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>>173284006
You are the one complaining you have to pay to be competitive when this is the case for all MMOs
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>>173284229
Yeah this thread only has one person called Anonymous in here, who is arguing with himself.
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>>173283470
>>173281671
But you can buy premium with in game money.
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>>173251575
Ashes of Creation
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>>173269756
It's way better to learn a trade. College is just a place to get a ton of debt.
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>>173285761
The character models look abit off. Like kinda cartoony.
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>>173285047
Are minerals you mine free?
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guys do I play tos
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>>173285908
what happened to revo parent kun
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>>173286813
It died. I guess I should add it to the pastebin and remove it from the up and coming MMOs.
>>173286348
Well really don't know how it will really look until it gets into beta.
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>>173286497
Tricky question. What do you mean? You can mine whatever you want, but it would damage your pickaxe though. Even if you buy the minerals, items in Albion are really disposable.
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>>173286639
They say it sucks, idk why. Maybe you should try it.
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50 tomahawk missiles
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>>173287720
w-would we be alright? I hope /mmog/ plays some shitty but comfy MMO together until the end.
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>>173287536
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137929
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>>173287823
I hope so. I'm guess I'm start playing Wafku tomorrow.
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>>173287894
This is why I said tricky question. Is shitposting here free? I just don't know, man. But gotta keep playing something sometimes.
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>>173287823
Would probably be wurm, we could build a hobo village somewhere
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>>173288216
Our own hobo village? We could make it work but I haven't played wurm.
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>>173289359
http://www.wurmpedia.com/index.php/Main_Page

read up if you want to play, wurm is a very complex game
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>>173289359
UI leaves something to be desired and combat is shit, but it's the best/most in-depth crafting I've ever played. we can build shitshacks, terraform a mountainhome into the ground, tame animals, build a cozy farm, become a cult, meditate for magic powers, and gang up on lava spiders together.
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>>173285908
what about a nurse college?
>>173287720
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>>173285908
Maybe, depend on your country economy. But some professions are useful though, I'm a lawyer and I can sue people and defend myself, I'm like a super citizen. Shit is cash.
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I want smt mmo to come back alive
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>>173290135
In what server do you play?
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>wurm talk
>I remember when I played that game
>log into wurm
>encased in rock
>apparently I logged out in a mine and it collapsed or some shit
>no pickaxe to dig myself out

wew
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>>173292152
I don't play it currently. Last time I did I was on one of the freedom (PvE) servers islands. It should be noted that each "server" is a different map and iirc you can use boats to travel between them. Somewhere you can see a list of how many players each server has online to see which ones aren't ded, but I can't seem to find it. it might be in the launcher.
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where are all the new mmos wtf
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wurm is crazy outdated, you might as well play rust or ark since they are more modern and (ironically) have more players per server
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>>173293331
Just downloaded it. I'm loving the atmosphere.
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>>173292492
>be supreme jew
>never buy sub
>tfw purely f2p characters are deleted after a few months without a login

>>173293331
Why play un-comfy games when you want a comfy game though? Hands off farming, crops that spoil in 5 minutes, and no livestock (dinosaurs are tools, not livestock) is the opposite of comfy.
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>>173257004
That game had some cool classes. My favorite was the ranger class that used giant Yo-Yos. The beatdown priest class was cool too. Riding around on a fast broom was pretty sick too. I
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>>173295041
Back when I played the yoyo class was only good if it used a bow.
My favorite class was the ringmaster and psykeeper. The ringmaster was able to stay alive indefinitely while the psykeepr was able to reflect damage. Until they nerfed and changed everything.
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So which MMO have you been playing anon?
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>>173295041
Yeah Flyff had some pretty cool classes/class names. I remember being a Blade and recking shit from all the high crit I had.
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>>173296045
PoE, and I've had this really, really, strange urge to replay the FFXIII series.

Neither of which are actual MMOs.
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Anyone playing hardcore Diablo 3 season 10? I'm just looking for some buddies to play with. I'm currently in the top 50 on solo monk leaderboards. At least I was before I went to bed
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>>173297218
not an mmo
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>>173297257
Read the op
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>>173297218
I'm a first time casual scum so no
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>>173297257
"MOs with documented MMO aspects are also welcome here, such as games like Diablo, ARK, and Dark and Light."
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>>173297405
Does this mean we can discuss DayZ here, or does Ark have some feature I'm not aware of?
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>>173297553
Listen here you passive aggressive piece of shit
I searched Diablo in the catalog, this is the only general that showed up, and the op said it was fine to post about Diablo

Go take your butthurt elsewhere, and let people looking for other people to have fun with, enjoy themselves.
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>>173297778
Diablo is not an MMO
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>>173294181
What server are you on, ill join you anon
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>>173297834
I'll give you a copy of diablo 3 if you stop shitposting, poorfag
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>>173297218
lmao just play poe instead
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>>173297925
And it would go into the garbage where it belongs.
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>>173297778
>Listen here you passive aggressive piece of shit
Jesus christ I was just asking a question. I wasn't even in the reply chain.
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>>173298036
Just drop you email dude
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>>173297925
I have the collector's edition
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>>173298206
[email protected]
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>>173288074

Once you start, leave your name to invite you to the guild on the Remington server anon. I'll be happy to guide you.
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>>173298478
Who said anything about joining your pathetic guild? Or even server for that matter.
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>>173298478
Is Wakfu P2W?
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>>173298594

Not at all. Ogrine shop is just for cosmetic items and subscription only give you a 20% extra xp and little extra drops (meaningless.) Some exclusive content is only for subscriber, but is usually super late game stuff and is unlocked once a new update with new stuff comes up. You never ever notice it as a new player.

>>173298478

Jim, don't start pls.
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>>173298754
In /a/ you'd get a three days ban for those jims, why is this stupid board so nice to reddit-like faggots?
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Oh boy here we go again
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>>173299753

JIM
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>>173299753
Because /a/ mods are shit.
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>>173299753

ooh, the Jim was meant to

>>173298592
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>>173299753
This board doesn't have mods.
It's why shitposting can go on for hours and completely ruin a thread, but nothing will be done about it.
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>>173296045
I caved and decided to give Albion Online a try.

I'm kinda surprised that a game this big runs on android phones, but then again the "graphics" are even worse than Runescape when it launched in 2001. Everything else about it is solid though. Feels kinda like league of legends if you could just design your own champion.
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>>173301032
Isn't that game all about needing to chop trees for 3 days to get the gear so you can pvp for 10 mins, get your ass raped, then go back to chopping trees?
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>>173303713
>a few casual friends got hyped on Albion for some reason
>mfw I don't think they realize endgame is full loot PvP
Should I tell them?
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Any other skill based MMO besides Runescape, Mabinogi and Haven and Hearth? Preferably something that's NOT combat focused; it's the reason I stopped playing RS and Mabi.
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Can someone give me a fast report on these two games and which you would rather play:
Tree of savior
TERA
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>>173304602
>ToS
Buggy and unoptimized garbage. Became p2w a few months ago and everything, and I mean everything can be bought with real money.

>TERA
Pedo pandering game. Everything is focused on the pedo class. I hear there's a new class coming out.

I'd rather play TERA.
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>>173304703
Did you play tera? Do I get to PK the pedos?
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>>173304828
Last I played (beta) you could flag outlaw and kill anyone you like past lvl 20 or so.
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>>173304602
Both run like shit but I'd rather play TERA because no bullshit paywall feature
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I remember playing Firefall with the /vg/ bros. I miss it ;_;
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>>173305984
More
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>>173306272
This is the only other one.
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out of nowhere, poharan and jinsoyun comes and help me in MXM.
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>>173281496
Mabinogi, Wakfu
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>>173307263
Both aren't really houses and more like gardens.
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yoooo I wanna be this cat
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>>173307310
I can agree for Mabinogi, but Wakfu definitely not. In Wakfu the house is completely customizable, you can add furniture and whatnot.
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can any of you that are playing lodoss give some info on what the game is like so far
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>>173307416
should i play lineage 2? is the game pvp or pve focused
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>>173307621
fucking retard
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>>173304315
pls respond
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/msg/ is kill again
can i post here instead?
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>>173308538
Everyone is welcome.
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>>173304315

Wakfu
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>>173304315
Wurm
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>>173222908
I've been back mudding lately and would say Empire mud if you can stand dwarf fort level graphics. You start small crafting shit for yourself having a cottage and a few buildings then level your empire and build towns and cities and have an npc a workforce to do shit for you.
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>>173307932
thanks friend
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>>173304913
I think in the last update open world PvP is level 60 only
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>>173249853
>the RNG factor was reduced.
Biggest tragedy in all of Wakfu history. I seriouisly loved being a useless piece of shit then exploding into a god and being swingy as all shit while RNGsus fucked my ass with the occasional blowjob.
Now it's just, hooray I am slightly better or worse but mostly average.
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>>173202853
who are you why are you namedropping me here
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>>173313084
Ai
pls
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So we've all played and quit MMO's, probably a few of them if we're posting here.

Heres a question for you - what would have kept you coming back?

Lack of content seems to be the biggest complaint for people who've stuck to a game for a long time. Do you think that player created content would help to alleviate this?

Well... I can't actually think of too many games that have given the player sufficiently powerful tools to do this, even where it has been done.

Best one I can think of right now is probably the old neverwinter nights games with the aurora toolset, I think there's a custom campaign still running somewhere that you can play right now. Not an MMO of course.
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>>173315146
the times i've stopped playing an mmo i actually played for any real length, it's because my raid group/guild fell apart
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>>173315146
1. Daily quests sucks. It makes the game feel like a chore. I quit a lot of MMOs because of this like Wakfu and Runescape.

2. Events at certain times only. This can also tie in to the first point but my biggest gripe is that these people don't know the concept of timezones. At least make that shit fair. In Atlantica Online they had an event where they gave everyone that was logged in at a certain time 300 Atlas Ores. One of those cost 700m and I didn't get shit because I had work.

3. Limiting a players play time, like stamina. Do I need to explain this? This is just dumb and I understand that Korean's have that law to prevent themselves from killing themselves in front of their computer but can western publishers at least remove that shit? I stopped playing DFo because of this. And I don't enjoy playing multiple characters.
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>>173315541
Yeah, it seems the norms for these games to cater to market to an international audience, but completely ignore them for all sorts of things. Limited time (often once time) events. Patch periods, which are often scheduled to occur at prime time for some players every single time due to timezones. In game systems which only work properly when a sufficient number of players are online, so playing in off time zones is like playing a gimped version of the game due to lower population.

I feel like lag is still a huge problem too. It's funny how complex multiplayer online games have been around for more than 2 decades, and yet games are still generally designed without the required systems and tuning to allow for all players to have an even footing when playing together.

Any game which pushes competitive PVP in some way just feels like a waste of time to even try with a high ping. It's like playing with a global cooldown on everything you do that none of the local players have to deal with.

Well, I get that it's hard to make something that is both engaging and that feels good to play for the people who are playing it local. But there's got to be a compromise that would work for everyone, if only it was made a focus of the product.
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>>173315541
>>173318952
Shit's fucked.
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>>173303713
Maybe if you're a pleb.

I make enough money from ganking people to pay for my items. I don't do gathering and crafting.
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>Live under rock
>tfw you find out Everquest Next was cancelled
why
>>173241325
They're coding another version in C++
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>>173318952
I'm tired of games having shit netcode
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Convince me to play your favorite mmorpg or what mmo you are playing.
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>>173037650
>royals

LOL
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>>173304159
Wait till they start exploring black zones, then tell them after they get their ass ganked back to back and lose all their gear.
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>>173305984
>>173306325
I loved that game. Too bad the developers were incompetent and had to ruin it because nofunallowed. I leveled all the classes to max.
I would have still continued playing after that but the population just ceased to exist.
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>dungeon took me 3 hours to solo
Well, that was fun.
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post ur qt character
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Have a good day.
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>>173325421
Define cute.
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>>173101870
I missed out on BDO because of RL obligations. I played the open beta and it was tons of fun. For anyone that knows, how was the launch? I wish I could have played that.
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>>173327146
The game launch was horrible like most game launches.
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>>173327095
All your characters are cute because they're yours.
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so what mmo should i play
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>>173327557
Play NovaRO with me!
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>>173323014
I'm playing wakfu because sunk cost fallacy, you shouldn't play it.
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>>173329272
I hate what they did with the tokens.
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>>173329349
What did they do?
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>>173329435
They removed it as a boss drop and changed it into a daily quest.
You can't no life farm them now.
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Best MS oldschool private servers at the moment:

MapleRoyals
MapleLegends
MapleSaga

MR has the most players and is the most stable, but it is currently going through an update so registration is disabled.

Saga is hosted in Singapore I believe, so for Asians this is a solid choice.

ML is a bit slow (only 2x exp) and doesn't have alot of players compared to MR, but it has a tight-knit community and an authentic feel.
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>>173330829
Oh boy it's the MR drama and shilling again. How exciting.
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>>173333968
But their general died and this is a thread for MMOs and MOs that can't keep up generals.
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>>173305984
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>>173334260
the masked man?
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>>173330829
Why would you play on private server?
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>>173334260
>only thing left to do before the game died was daily kanaloa and baneclaw and pvp dueling
So much wasted potential.
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>>173334443
Because the Big Bang patch ruined a lot of shit.
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albion online doesn't really seem that bad, but their decision with the premium stuff is still really silly. bought into the beta last night and played a few hours of it; time consuming, but compared to EVE, not really that bad (yet, i guess).

i wonder how they'll fuck it up though.
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>>173339174
I'm wondering the same. Premium is a reminiscence of their F2P vision, but now that it will be B2P it isn't congruent. Maybe they're thinking about future tablet players who like to spend cash on games, or something.

It's a nice game overall, at least for now.
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>>173339174
>>173339757
It's pretty obviously they're going the jew route.
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>>173339757
yea, premium definitely had a place in the F2P version (though honestly, i don't see why it needs to be a thing to begin with, but thats just me). i can't see them scraping it, because the devs seem to love EVE's model so much that they copy a lot of things 1:1, which isn't necessarily bad but the things that work for eve might not work the same way in albion.

for now, though, i can definitely enjoy this game for what it is and it will be a nice break from WoW or FFXIV.
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>>173340251
Don't forget, they're planning to add a cashshop too.
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>>173340440
they said the cash shop is just gonna be cosmetic and vanity stuff, so i'm willing to give a pass on that. EVE had the same stuff for aurum, but they could be sold on the market too (for ridiculous amounts of ISK; why bother buying it for ISK if you can just buy PLEX?)
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>>173339174

P2p with cash shop and barely any pve. Nothing but trash.
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Anybody tried this yet? I haven't been into DCU for a while, is it worth it?
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>>173343540
Fuck is this? Looks ugly as heck.
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>>173342954
different strokes. the end game grind bullshit of WoW and FFXIV do not appeal to me in the slightest. i enjoy the open world PvP, along with the risk & reward that goes with it. every mmo plays it too safe these days and doesn't try to deviate from the formula that WoW established.
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>>173281514
Can confirm all of this, questing was pretty off putting, then I joined in a group with the discord and ground away for hours of fun

I am an easy lay for any game with drive by buffs and utility skills though
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>>173344246
This.
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>>173344834

Is combat fun? I don't give a fuck about grouping, all I care on a MMO is the combat systems.
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>>173301032
>but then again the "graphics" are even worse than Runescape when it launched in 2001
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>>173303713
It's the grinding of the skill levels that takes time. Making new gear to replace your old isn't that hard.
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>>173345095
It is fun when it doesn't lag.
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>>173003535
>>173003535
>>173003535

NEW THREAD:

>>173345796
>>173345796
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>>173315146
MMOs are about the social aspects.

Everyone will keep playing so long as their friends keep playing and so on.

The biggest screw up MMOs have been doing lately is to compensate for bad communities with automated grouping. They're killing the genre.
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>>173318952
Blizzard has been doing wonders about lag. It's quite ingenious: the game doesn't have to wait for the server to spell out everything that will happen, so you just teach the game what is supposed to happen with every action and it only uses the server to confirm (correcting itself in case latency screwed things up).

Of course, the higher the latency, the higher the chances of whatever you just tried to do to not have happened like you thought it did, so the more correcting the game has to do, but you can essentially feel like you're playing with 0 ping.

For some reason Blizzard has not implemented it accross the board for their games, though, just here and there for some random buttons. I guess they don't care enough about it.


I think this is sort of the concept around GGPO as well. But seeing as MMOs are slower and less precise than fighting games, a lot could be done with it.
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>>173347729
Isn't that a rubberband nightmare though?
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