/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

>>172959361
first for gay rights

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Anon-kun, did you make good progress today?

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>agdg can't make games without OOP

Rust

Thanks OP for ignoring the next Jam, again faggot
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-loli-jam-2017

>>172959452
No, I was busy trying to learn non-OOP programming.

>>172959452
No ideas no progress

off to a good start

>>172959452
I pursued an even more hopeless passion than gamedev, painting

>>172959465
>anon can't stop being triggered

>>172959525
April Fools is already over, anon.

First for D

>>172959649
fuck off to discord and stay there shitter

>>172959649
The Jam starts on the 10th though? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

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>>172959452
I've made progress but it's shit
I can't model anything without proper references and I'm not good enough at drawing to use my own sketches as references.

>>172959649
What does that have to do with a jam that happens at a different date and was scheduled at a different date?

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reeeeeeeeeeeeepost

i'm going to work on a judo/grapple system as well to combine with this kind of thing.

>>172959430
Glad I could help. Though I'm curious what could still be wrong. It makes me nervous over my own game too.
>sfml literally means shit, fuck my life

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Reposting

Loli raising sim
>get 3 daughterus to take care of
>help them with homework
>feed them
>play with them
>tuck them into bed and tell them stories
>the more you make them happy, the more you feel proud = motivated to work hard = more money to spend on them
>if you treat them badly or ignore them, they will be taken in by their mother instead
too cruel? or would this work? I don't like the idea of having the lolis die or vanish, but there should be some kind of consequence if you treat them badly right?

>>172959465
>>172959528
What exactly are the advantages to not using OOP? Are there even any or am I just being trolled?

>>172959751
>>172959825
What does the start date have to do with anything? The jam is still a joke and was never meant to be taken seriously.

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>>172959949
JUST DO IT

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This isn't technically related to game development but this is the closest board I could find to it so I figure you guys might know something and I didn't want to make a whole thread on /v/ to ask a question.
Is there anywhere on 4chan that's focused on modding games and stuff? Like a modding general or something. If there is, I haven't found it on /vg/.

>>172960068
Are you the jam page creator? If you're not you have no saying in what the jam should or should not be.

>>172960068
>The jam is still a joke and was never meant to be taken seriously.
Why do you think that?

>>172960031
you shouldn't make games using functional, is a waste of time.

but learning to code non OOP software will make you a better programmer.

so do it.

functional actually forces you to be creative, since you can't use variables and modificable states in your software.

>>172960031
OOP is bad for code reuse (inheritance and encapsulation are inferior to pure composition), bad for performance (overhead of virtual methods and inability to optimize for cache thanks to encapsulation), and it simply doesn't make sense a lot of the time (how do you model abstract concepts like real world objects?).

>>172960031
It's just haskell jews, ignore them.

>>172960134
/vr/

>>172960031
>>172960194
Oh, and OOP always leads to shared mutable state everywhere which is a huge source of bugs, hard to maintain dependencies, and inefficiencies.

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loooooooooooool steam is going to bury your lazy fake games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1OyenZvskc

>>172960134
/tesg/

>>172960134
No, you'd just post in the game's general that you're modding. If you're modding Skyrim, post in /tesg/, if you're modding Minecraft post in /mcg/, etc.

>>172960293
>>172960380
My mod is for a game called Kenshi, which isn't a retro or an elder scrolls game. Would I still be able to find help there?

>>172960194
All of those things are negated by the fact that the most portable game engines are pure OOP. The more platforms you can release on with minimal effort, the more people will be able to buy and play your game.

>>172960335
ok, but where is your game?

>>172960458
>OOPajeet makes mobile shit
I'm not surprised.

>>172960592
>what is ps4
>what is switch
>what is linux
>what is mac os

>>172960435
Kenshi doesn't have a general.

>>172960453
just go and ask.

>>172960453
Kenshi isn't even out yet and likely has practically zero audience. Are there not some developer forums for the game you could post on? Or are you researching modding techniques in general?

The answer you're afraid of getting but you're ultimately going to get is "the thing you want to post doesn't belong anywhere on 4chan other than in a specifically created /v/ thread."

>>172960180
>since you can't use variables and modificable states in your software
But that's basically all my code

>>172960180
>you shouldn't make games using functional, is a waste of time.
>functional actually forces you to be creative, since you can't use variables and modificable states in your software.
Well, would you look at that, both disparaging FP and yet proving that he has no idea what FP is in the same post.

>>172960031
you're being trolled by the haskell sperg from /dpt/

>>172960641
>I want to be a pajeet
t. pajeet

Reply to this post listing games made here or elsewhere that use FP

>>172960641
>PS4
>Switch
Locked down garbage.

>Linux
>Mac OS
Awful for games.

>>172960789
Funny you should say that, because windows is the real platform of choice for pajeets.

>>172960804
the crash bandicoot engine of Psx.

>>172960849
>he thinks I use windows

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>be a web developer
>start learning how to code games for fun since php, mysql and asp .net are not really that fun
>check the last 4 /agdg/
>they are literally 1 step above reddit's /agdg/'s, where people ask why if (boolean = true) doesn't work

Where can I find decent discussion on video game development?

This is just a bunch of role playing and kids learning to code as if in some school project.

>>172960895
wrong
>GOAL encourages an imperative programming style
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp

>2017
>people STILL responding to cristian
What the hell agdg.

>>172960917
dumb frogposter

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>>172960848
>Locked down garbage
No, you just have to be able to make halfway decent games to get on their platforms.

>>172960987
he's not the worst shitposter here and he usually argues about something related to gamedev.

>>172960917
real game developers are too busy making games to be wasting their time shitposting with stupid manchildren and timewasting trolls trolling trolls

>OOP is good because game engines that port to many platforms are OOP and I want money!

>>172960987
cristian did nothing wrong

>>172960917

This is literally the place where nintendo kids come to pretend to code games.

>>172961214
All the arguments he makes are dumb though.

>>172961263
wiyg?

>>172960848
gabe is literally about to make consoles fucking cheaper to develop for than publishing a steam game

>>172961263
>FP is good because my hot opinions say so!

>>172960654
>>172960657
All right, I'll give it a shot.

>>172961263
t. buttmad communist triggered by people who are more successful than him

>>172961358
at least he's on topic I guess.

>>172961385
Who are you quoting?

>>172961497
you need to go back to >>>/g/dpt

i bet you don't even have a game

>>172961385
>he hasn't experience functional programming yet
lmao pajeet pleb.

>>172959879
how are the guys moving all ragdoll like ?

>>172961381
Good. That will make steam less of a shovelware infested piece of shit. I only hope they apply it retroactively and anyone who can't pay gets their game pulled off the store.

>>172961621
I'm not sure you have, either, seeing as you seem to think FP just means no "variables and modificable states".

>>172961691
enlightme with your superior knowledge over what is functional then.

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>>172960917
as a programmer, I've realized people don't talk about programming in any game dev community, unless its a tutorial (atleast in my experience.) I come here to get art criticisms or to ask if my game looks fun

>>172961139
>>172961381
It's not about me being able to get my game on the platform, it's the capabilities of the platform itself.

How do I make a video game?

so /agdg/, i need help.
i learned python because i wanted to learn programming and it is easy to pick up. started doing some shit in pygame but it seems like python is not optimal for game developement. it just has so many caveats you need to look out for.

i found about godot which uses GDscript that has lots of similarities with python.
and there is unity, obviously.

where should i go next if i want to make 2d games?
godot could be easy to pick up since i am bretty gud in python and finished 2 sample-games in pygame.
unity is already fully fleshed out but i heard it is shit for 2d games and i would need to learn C#. i have a C# book here and i have lots of free time.

wat do?

>>172961878
Just like do it

>>172961878
copy and paste some unity store assets and put it on steam greenlight

>>172961831
are you one of these memesters who post "What's holding video games back?" threads with fancy water physics simulation webms attached to them

>>172961884
Use Godot.

>>172961782
Writing programs by composing functions with no side effects. Mutation (as well as any other effect) is still allowed, it just must be explicit in the function signature to make the function pure (which just means that the same input always goes to the same output).

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Opinions on learning game design?

>>172962042
you have any experience with it?

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>>172962170

>>172962151
So basically having no extra variables you can't change and having no mutable states.

>>172962007
>OOP shill is a consolefag
Nice.

>>172962151
k

>>172961884
Unity is fine but for 2D there are better options.

GameMaker is my fav but the downside is you need to purchase a lot of modules if you want to export to a lot of platforms.
HaXeFlixel is good too and free but if you're having trouble with something, there isn't a lot of resources online.
MonoGame/SDL2/SFML are great if you want to get better at programming while making a game, but these are libraries and not engines, so you'd need to make a lot things yourself or use other software, for example either make your own level editor or download one online.

>>172962170
"game design" is just logic.
play your game, is it fun ? Does it stay fun long ? Then it's well designed.
art, code and music are harder to get right

>>172962305
I think you replied to the wrong person.

>>172962305
i literally have no idea how you came to the conclusion i'm some imagined boogeyman

>>172962298
You didn't even read it.

>>172962334
how do you define fun?

what if you consider boring something other people find fun?

I find Lol extremelly boring, but millions find it too fun.

Fun is a buzzword.

>>172960804
>One reply
hmm

>>172962491
your feelings are a buzzword

>>172962556
>zero arguments
hmm

>>172962491
That's why there are different audiences for different games. The game industry isn't a zero sum game.

>>172962428
yeah a bunch of buzzwords for coding recursevelly and having not mutable states with side effects.
what I'm missing then.

unless I'm not being taugh functional in my into to code class.

>>172962491
Interesting visuals, gameplay that revolves around multiple mechanics, and a cohesive experience are the common points of "fun" games.

>>172957583
You're welcome anon. Fyi according to that same guy, there is a healthy kickstarter scene for board games but not vidya, if you ever want to make a living off of it. You should probably play the canon of designer board games tho if you want into that world.

>>172962585
I don't need arguments, I asked a question. The lack of answers is an answer in itself.

>>172962328
thanks for your input, anon.
i think i need to get to my fortress of solitude and light one up, find my inner self and decide.

>>172962579
>>172962619
how do you define fun?

>>172962667
So tetris and pacman aren't fun?

>>172962626
Mutation is perfectly okay in FP as long as you don't break purity. Frivolous mutation is discouraged, of course.

>>172962710
>The lack of answers is an answer in itself.
To what question?

>>172962767
Tetris and Pacman have all of those things.

>>172962876
roguelikes have no graphics beyond ascii.

>>172962972
That can still be considered "interesting visuals".

>>172963037
unless you're using typography or visual effects or shaders, ascii isn't interesting.

>>172963134
That's just like your opinion man

>>172962856
How many games here or somewhere else use FP?

>>172963207
Why does it matter?

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>>172963134

>>172963237
Who said it does? I just want an answer.
One would think that since FP is so good, lots of games would use it.
You use it, right? So why don't you post your game?

>>172963345
Not an argument.

>>172962972
Maybe in the 1980s

>>172963237
kill yourself

>>172963375
Ah so you just wanted to shitpost. Gotcha.
Don't know what I expected honestly.

>>172959465
firstly m8. I can make pong and tetris without OOP and thats about it. trying to make anything more complicated and your code is likely to be an indistinguishable mess.

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Daily reminder that the most interesting platformer in 15 years is a Unity game.

>>172963237
the answer is obvious even to the most dense sperglord. you are here solely to waste people's time. fuck off

>>172963402
>>172963491
>>172963603
Lots of anger but no arguments. Sad!

>>172963593
collectathons have never been interesting

>>172963593
Daily reminder that you can make a great game and still fuck yourself in the final hour by doing something dumb

>>172963593
>muh indie gay
overrated af
>what is ratchet & clank

>>172963375
Oh ok, I'm not really interested then. Good luck with your functional programming though.

>>172963708
I don't see your argument either.
Sad!
Many such cases.

>>172963593
That's great. Doesn't change that fact that Unity is a terrible engine.

>>172963773
not that anon but are you talking about the remake? I wouldn't exactly say thats a new game

>>172963593
>yooka laylee
>more interesting than super mario galaxy
that's how i know you don't actually like that game that much and just want to bait alt-right retards

>>172960194
>OOP is bad for code reuse
KEK

>>172963593
Yooka Laylee is superficial "member Banjo Kazooie" trash with very little actual gameplay.

>>172963593
>most interesting platformer in 15 years
that picture certainly doesn't make it look like it is

>>172963820
Why is it bad?

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>>172963593
Snake Pass is made with UE4 though

>>172963793
See >>172960194, >>172960335.

>>172963838
Inheritance is worse than composition. Composition is still bad if you have encapsulation because you have to write boilerplate to "bubble up" the methods of the contained classes to the containing class (inheritance exists to prevent this, but it also makes your code extremely resistant to change). Without encapsulation or inheritance you don't have OOP.

>>172964068
>but it also makes your code extremely resistant to change
You are just shit at programming desu.

>>172963708
>>172963793
Healthy young programmer goes to /g/, gets pumped with massive shot of Haskell memes, doesn't feel good and changes - UNEMPLOYED. Many such cases!

>>172964001
it's amateurish trash which any self-respecting game development studio can make a superior in-house alternative to or they can at least use UE4 or cryengine 3 instead

>>172964279
I think you forgot to answer the question.

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reminder it doesn't matter what engine you use as long as you make a good game. Which you can make because you're awesome

>>172964417
Get bent, asshole.

>>172964339
>it's trash
shit performance (fucking string lookups everywhere etc), shit graphics, shit controls etc

even most unity devs acknowledge that the builtin features are shit and you need to write your own code or use third-party plugins

>>172964001
They intentionally leave out features and leave bugs unfixed so that people will have to purchase those features or bugfixes from the Unity store.
The engine just runs poorly overall.
The engine is trash for 2D games, it's insulting they would even imply the engine has proper 2D support. Unity is made for 3D and 3D only.
There's better alternatives.

>>172964492

I >>172964001 am not >>172964339 btw

>>172964493
But unity uses a subscription model now. There's nothing to "purchase" anymore.

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>>172964417

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d20 wireframe potion

>>172959949
>>172959949
>>172959949
>>172959949
>>172959949
pls respond

>>172964582
He means mandatory third party assets to fill in the gaps that Unity's programmers are literally incapable of implementing themselves.

>>172964680
just like make game

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ok, so I was listening to the clockwork game design podcast and I tried to imagine a new fighting game, since I've always wanted to make one.
So, following his advice I need a core mechanic and build on top.
I want to make this fighting game for a subculture of fighting games that is the combo makers, basically making a game to showcase combo skills.
That would be the core goal, but if we follow this route then I'll have to drop out all the other conventions.
I guess one way to do it could be that the players exchange offensive and defensive positions, per each match.
Basically in one match one player has the offensive positions and can make any combo he wants meanwhile his oponent can't attack but has a lot of defensive options.
Or make the game about Offensive state, neutral state and defensive state, and you have a certain move to try to change from neutral to offensive or defensive to neutral.
Any opinions on this?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/578850/
What is your excuse, dear "oh I can not into art" anon?

What is my excuse after this? ;_;

>>172964982
how do you win

>>172964982
>so I was listening to the clockwork game design podcast

>>172965040
basically by a score rather than a lifebar.
the score is dependant over the combo variety, damage and number of hits.

>fixing a bug in my code
>add one line of code that will fix one aspect of it
>it fixed all aspects of it for some reason
what the fuck, I don't even know how it works

should I count my blessings and just move on

>>172965252
You have to write a humorous comment that says you don't know why it works

>>172964982
>tfw slowly keithpilling agdg

If you look even deeper into this philosophy you might drop the second player altogether and form combos in a purely abstract singleplayer game.

Staying in a fighting game context, however, it seems like you're choosing your next combo input partially based on which defensive option the second player is using at the time. So part of the mechanic is predicting what your opponent is doing. You might also want to alternate who is the attacker DURING a round instead of between rounds. Whenever a combo breaks the roles switch.

>>172964986
>rhythm game where the gameplay and music get out of sync after half a minute
Wow.

>>172965575
I dunno, maybe a single player would be better for my idea, that's something I've been playing in my mind latelly.

were you the anon who sent me the podcast about board games?

>>172965110
>so I was listening to...game design podcast

>>172964982
>>172965575
no idea what podcast you guys are talking about but I agree with this poster in that the idea seems like it'd be much more fun as a single player game, also it'd be easier to make.

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>>172965519

>>172965192
>>172965575
>>172965752
imo this seems really dumb

the fun in fighting games is having an opponent and combos are satisfying because they bring down your opponent's lifebar a lot

its just a skinner box, no shame in it

What are some platformers that have good/fun puzzles and aren't puzzle games?

>>172964986
I'd rather not release a game than release a shit game.

>>172965874
So... basically a single player game would be better?

>>172965963
glover

>>172965963
You're going about it wrong.

>>172966081
what do you mean?

OOP is the best solution for many different objects in a game and you cannot disagree or you are a pleb


For example 15 chess pieces there is no better solution than OOP for board games

>>172965752
Yeah I linked that.
I don't think there's anything wrong with trying out the mechanic in a fighting game context. Keith has a has strong binary opinions, he's basically staked out an ideological outpost on game design. He's either going to be very right or very wrong.

Singleplayer is PRACTICALLY easier since you don't have to have a community to test it. The DESIGN will be harder because you don't have an opponent to fight against so the system has to be interesting on its own.

>>172959452
can i see your pantsu please?

>>172966254
data Piece = Pawn | Rook | Knight | Bishop | Queen | King

>>172966064
Too bad the shitty controls make the game unplayable.

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>>172966407

>>172965963
La-Mulana

>>172966387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T_RdUPNg6k

I want to make a game for showcase of combo skills.

that could be really interesting for some people.

OK, so I fixed my diagonal movement since before it was going too fast as it always does with simple movement programming

But now that it's "right", it feels too slow. I checked out a bunch of other RPGs and they just leave the fast diagonal movement in place

Which one should I use?

>>172966613
Good thing we are making games here eh?

>>172966783
>I want to make a game for showcase of combo skills.
So the entire character action/"cuhrayzee" genre.

>>172966801
increase the overall movement speed. keep it "right" so forward movement is as fast as diagonal

>>172966957
name one that is 2D.

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Can beautiful visuals alone carry a game with shitty level design?

>>172966232
You should be looking at how your platform game works, what its current or intended base mechanics are and then figuring out how to implement puzzles that fit into those mechanics. Telling you to go and play Lost Vikings, Abe's Odyssey, Blob & His Blob or Umihara Kawase won't help you at all if your game doesn't play like they do or you don't notice that they all use pretty much the same puzzles, just implemented to work with their game mechanics.

>>172967029
People have mentioned the concept before but I don't see how a 2D DMC would be fun. I don't even see the point.

>>172966801
It shouldn't feel slow. Movement in any direction should be exactly the same if you're doing it right.

But also what kind of game is it? For some games it doesn't matter, for other games it does matter.

>>172967096
yes

>>172967029
Rainblood Chronicles: Mirage
Fairybloom Fresia

>>172966801
T.b.h. I don't see the problem with leaving diagonal movement in place. If it doesn't even unbalance the game, who cares? Also, and this is a general principal of art, details and quirks and idiosyncrasies give a game character. Pure and consistent interaction is a feature for software and tools, not for art.

That said some autists will complain at you even at release because you "forgot" to do this.

Idea: take a 3D game and make it 2D. People will like it because it's different despite it being objectively worse.

>>172967367
oops, *objectively better

>>172967175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lBYMq8BNS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99LbwyZVOR0

>>172967247
I'm sure they don't have EX moves, supers, cancels, romans cancels, Max mode cancels, EX supers and all the shit fighting games has.

>>172967029
Icey
Bloodrayne Betrayal

>>172967175
>implying 3D is so essential to the concept of DMC as to render the game "pointless" in its absence
This seems less like a well reasoned remark and more of a "if it deviates from the DMC I know in any way then I will assume it is bad".

>>172966801
nobody has fucking time for slowass walking simulators, crank that movement speed to uncontrollable levels like an emulator in turbo mode

>>172967506
>I'm sure they don't have EX moves, supers, cancels, romans cancels, Max mode cancels, EX supers and all the shit fighting games has.
>I'm sure
Well then you're wrong

>>172967506
Those look like multiplayer games.

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So I needed a break from writing data classes, and decided to brush up on my shader skills, what do you think about this as a text fade effect, obviously the font and name are place holders.

>>172964982

>meanwhile his oponent can't attack

Then how is it a fighting game anon?

>Or make the game about Offensive state, neutral state and defensive state, and you have a certain move to try to change from neutral to offensive or defensive to neutral.

interesting idea, but the only to tell is to prototype it out using simple attacks/combo strings

>>172967096
Isn't that what Earthworm Jim is?
I don't remember the gameplay well enough though.

>>172967695
looks nice!

>>172967695
I like it a lot.

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>>172967695
>data classes

>>172967506
I like how you vomited a bunch of game-specific terns for common concepts as though every single one of those series-specific types of cancels or supers appears as a universal staple throughout the genre.

Yes, 2D single player games exist with a variety of super moves and cancels. Jesus, what a fucking mook.

>>172965874
way to oversimplify a subgenre of gaming mmozart

>>172967695
Effect looks neat.
The environment looks lazy af though.

>>172967970
cancels, roman cancels and Max mode cancels aren't the same, newfriend.

>>172967695
please add combat.

>>172967096
What do you define as shitty level design? To me shitty level design means the level design is so bad that it ruins the whole game, no matter how good the mechanics or visuals are.

If you mean boring level design, then I would say visuals can carry it. Because the levels are just boring, but they don't ruin the game, so as long as they're filled with pretty visuals it can be passable.

>>172967695
I'm happy you are back, anon.

>>172968159
Didn't say they were the same, illiterate moron.

>>172967695
effect is okay
but you should probably pick a more contrasting color for readability

>>172967695
I like this but it could be darker for readability.

>>172967723
lol you just dig up a game from 20 years ago as an example. Earthworm Jim had great gameplay but some of the level design was suspect. There were some unfair bits, especially the submarine bits in a later level, and considering the game uses the old fashioned lives system with no saves it was pretty frustrating.

>>172967695
nice but the text should be easier to read/notice and it should probably be on screen for a couple more seconds

hey maid dev, if you're reading this.

when will you open source your editors?

>>172968603
If he's smart then his editors will likely be of no use to you.

>>172967790
>>172967829
>>172968050
I'm glad you like it, I was thinking about making it a bit more pronounced?
I know the environment is quite empty/lazy I haven't really worked on in for months as I made it to test the shader and the general esthetic of the game.

>>172967962
yeah I know, it's a bad piece of terminology I've picked up working with unity, basically means classes that don't inhered from MonoBehaviour.

>>172968284
I've been lurking, just haven't had much progress worth posting.

>>172968354
>>172968391
>>172968509
I think your right, the color should be a bit less diffuse and it should show a bit longer.

>>172963297
>tfw this looks genuinely interesting to me

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>>172966657
It's too late.

>>172963297
>ASCII
>posts picture of glyphs
oh no. it's retarded.

Holy shit this thread is bad.
>pedos pushing memes for 2 months that never take off but they still won't stop
>gogem
>this "cristian" faggot who has never and will never make a game and is possibly the most miserably wound up nodev ever next to sourcefaggot and rotate

Just douse yourselves in gasoline and light a match.

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I... I'm actually okay with how this looks for now.

>>172969163
stop trying to force the cristian meme

>>172967029
>name one that is 2D.
>>172967506
>I'm sure they don't have EX moves, supers, cancels, romans cancels, Max mode cancels, EX supers and all the shit fighting games has.

GG Isuka's Boost Mode, bitch

>>172960164
>>172960136
t. pedos

>>172969163
you could have posted your game
you could have made the difference
but you didn't
because you have no game

>>172968889
Two was I can think of making it more pronounced:
Possibly change the blending mode, maybe make it additive?
Or have a subtle white outline around the text. Make the white part also fade in, but not exactly the same as the black part, so they're separate.

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I mean, it at least looks better than this. Right?

>>172969029
That's no pantsu, anon

>>172969259
is this the only response you have? pretty weak

>>172969450
the cameltoe it's enough to me.

>>172969229
No. All nodevs who have never made and will never make a game in their worthless life but choose to spend every day all day trying to pick fights about programming methodology and languages are now known as "cristian". It doesn't matter if it's really "cristian" or what their real name is, "cristian" is now just a term for "shitposting nodev".

Catch you later, cristians.

>>172969163
who or what is a cristian? link some posts that are supposed to be him

>>172969410
render it at 240p and add dithering

>>172969140
Irrelevant because all PC software has had access to this character set since 1981.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437

>>172969163
someone say christian

>>172969624
fuck off sourcefag

>>172969624
cristian hasn't done this before the last couple of days though. C-kun is much more notorious.

>>172964638
how do you achieve that grainy look on your models? also, neat

>>172969330
Why the fuck would ANYONE post their game here unless they simply didn't know better?

I suppose if you're so desperate to have your game seen by a verified gaggle of mentally deficient losers who hate videogames you'll happily post your progress any old place.

Luckily for me I already have followers who appreciatively watch my progress on a site that isn't the asshole of the internet.

Then again I'm not a butt-fucking scrub like the rest of you.

>>172969928
Can you leave and stay there then?

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Remember to do good games with christian values in it!

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>>172967506
>1 minute intro on youtube video

>>172969904
That's dithering, anon, it's because he used a shitty gif maker. I don't think the actual game looks like that.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJytmLn3dkc&feature=youtu.be

Still working on car physics. I think I am getting there with the difficulty and feel, still some tweaking to be done!

Add me on discord: crowjambo
#0158

If anyone wants to talk about racing games or what not

>>172969904
by rendering at a low resolution newfag

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>>172969928
what the fuck are you doing here then?

>>172969956
My game is about going into a place of business, shouting like a madman, flipping tables and beating jews with a whip. Can't get more christian than that.

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PLEASE STOP FIGHTING YOU'RE MAKING ME CRY. PLEASE JUST DEV AS GOOD ANONS!

>>172969483
Not the guy you replied to, pedo.

>>172970249
Just ignore non-progress posts. It's not hard.

Also post progress.

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>>172962328
Another Anon here, if I wanted to make stuff with SDL2, what are my options other than VS? Are there any?

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>>172967695
looks dope dude!

>>172970059
>>172970129
yethx

>>172970204
Money lenders best SWERVE when the man from galilee is in town.

>>172969727
that doesn't change the fact DF is literally glyph based, not text/font based. Do you not understand that? DF does not rely on the system's font or text renderer. it is glyph based.

>>172969951
>>172970137
Are you going to cry actual tears that I threw peanuts at monkeys?
Maybe stop being a monkey.

>>172969963
you weren't kidding

what the actual fuck

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>>172970063
>Add me on discord

at least cristian don't namefag.

>>172970458
pray to god for fucks for I have none to spare
it's just funny that you are cursing this place while STILL being here

>>172970435
>it's not ASCII it's bitmap fonts with the ASCII character set
Autism.

>>172970337
>Just ignore non-progress posts.
So the entire thread?

Literally what is the point of this place?

You should all give up.

>>172970249
We are an honorable nodev and we will do as we please.

>>172969673
How would I make that the default though?

>>172967695
So what is this game actually about?

>>172970513
>yes I like my shitposts unfilterably mixed into the thread

>>172970613
>So the entire thread?
No, just posts like yours.

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>he can't code a game without using OOP

>>172970591
>pray to god for fucks for I have none to spare
Yet you can't stop crying about someone posting an unsavory opinion about your nodev chat lounge.

>>172970063
Any good intro on car physics you can recommend?

>>172970597
>calling something what it looks like rather than what it is.
Brainlet nodev.

>>172970063
>AE86

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8

>>172970339
Isn't SDL2 just a library? Couldn't you just use any IDE and write C# as long as you have the gcc compiler?

>>172970861
Considering it's a discussion about aesthetics I think that's all that matters.

>>172970782
So all of the posts in this thread except mine are progress posts?

See how readily you adopt a completely unreasonable stance because your brain is tiny and you think like a woman? This is why you and the other special children here will never make a game.

Go ahead and cry some more about how I'm not allowed to have an opinion that upsets you, faggot.

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>he makes forced devmemes

Anyone here who can redpill me on making good music?

>>172970803
The joke is on you I can't code a game with it either

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Someone has make a look to the Minecraft shadermod?

It's pretty great to practice post processing it has:
>deferred pipeline.
>HDR color samples.
>glsl support
>textures support

I'm right now trying to add bloom effect

>>172971156
Why not just "practice" making shaders on your own game?

I wish /evn/ was alive.

>>172971107
learn music theory.

>>172971107
I wish I could find one good person good at piano to do a title menu track. Good music is hard to find.

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how do i mix/max progress to get optimal (you)s?

see >>172967695
vs
>>172964638

>>172970819
http://randomationmedia.com/rvp.html
you can check this out, its open source. Its pretty solid and good, many games use it these days + it has damage system in built.

Generally I suggest just download yourself a premade vehicle physics and modify the hell out of them and add custom code where you need to fix its holes.
I am using edys vehicle physics myself, but they are pretty realistic, so its challenging to make them easy to handle

>>172970818
>you can't stop crying
I asked you one question fucktard.

>>172970909
Oh I guess so. I'd want to write it in C++ though. I used a bit of C (in a Linux environment), but I've never used a C based language in a windows environment oddly enough, so I don't know what exactly the process is.

>>172971207
I know how to shaders but i don't know soo much about bloom and this come glsl support which have a lot of documentation and tutorials.
Don't be dumb.

>>172970063
this is a personal opinion but i think drifting on ice physics is a bit boring, i'd love to see a more real driving model

>>172970818
>said the nodev lounging in the chat

>>172971224
Why?

>>172971356
According to the SDL2 website it works natively with C++ so I don't think you'd have any problems.

>>172971228
>>172971249
What equipment do I need? Can't you just use a program nowadays to make good music?

>>172971269
ask a question and/or ask for feedback with the progress?

>>172971340
Look how much I care about your question. Isn't it impressive how much I care?

>>172971509
and? who cares?!

>>172970295
I guess that's a yes
pretty sad indeed

My game will use voxel cone tracing for indirect lighting.

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>>172971269

>>172971635
you apparently

>>172971340
You didn't ask a question and you can't stop replying. Are you retarded?

>>172971519
It was the best thread on 4chan.

>>172971269
HUD stuff is easy to criticize or praise even without context, but I don't know what the point of a d20 wireframe potion is so I have nothing to say about it other than it looks neat, I guess. Which isn't really worth the effort of typing up.

>>172971860
no, i don't I just care to finish my game and be like my god Notch.

>>172971881
poor nodev can't read :(
>>172969951
>>172970137

>>172971702
Enjoy your light bleeding.

>>172971447
driving on ice definitely is boring. I am going to make a more realistic car handling in the near future. Right now after doing research on what people actually like to play, it all points to arcade racing, not simulation. In the arcadey physics im making now, its not really ice as well. Grip on the road is very tight, its just that car has a lot of torque that makes its wheel slip if you press on gas hard, other than that it drives straight as a car supposed to. But thanks for your input, its good to know theres more people out there who are into actual proper car games

>>172970657
essentially it an exploration based adventure about an alchemist journey to find the philosopher's stone.
desu I don't really know what it is atm, the feature creep is real so I'm constantly changing the design to keep the scope reasonable, and some of the game mechanics that I'm testing aren't really as fun/interesting as I thought they would be.

>>172971702
>so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.

Baked lighting is far cheaper and better quality. I wouldn't recommend relying on realtime lighting at all unless your game just isn't possible without it.

>>172972064
Since when has VCT suffered from bleeding artifacts?

>>172972613
I want dynamic lighting. If you've got a shit PC then you can turn it down or off.

>>172972056
>you were asked one question
>points at multiple questions
So yes you are a retarded person?
I mean it's easier to just say "yes" but I guess you even have to do that like a potato.

>>172972273
as a general note, i'd point out that arcade vs sim usually has more to do with the gameplay focus rather than the physics model
forza horizon 3 has decent simcade physics going on and people love the fuck out of the game because they get to do cool fun things in it, y'dig

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>>172964279
>cryengine

>monkey
>potato
3...2...

can someone give me a rundown of what it takes to make custom water in Unity 3D?

I have no idea where to even begin. Is it all shader work? or is it animated meshes? or some combination? how do you even start making your own water?

>>172972790
each anon asked one question
poor nodev can't even count :(

>>172971598
you don't need equipment.

just pirate FL studio.

learn your music theory.

Anyone have a good tutorial on how to do ragdoll physics in unity?

>>172972878
>he still can't cope with the truth and is still so triggered he is still replying with non-comebacks and contradictions
Poor little guys, you just can't help yourselves can you?

>>172963820
Hearthstone is made with it.
I think that's good enough for me, senpai

>>172972618
Since always. It's an inherent problem with the technique unless your voxelized data is of an insanely high resolution, something that you won't have the memory or the bandwidth to achieve in realtime rendering. You can try to alleviate the issue at a lower voxel res with spherical harmonics but your performance is going to be shit.

Voxel GI is a dead end technique with most engines researching pathtracing solutions instead.

>>172973041
answer the questions and I'll tell you

>>172970861
It's literally called "Extended ASCII" though.

>>172969928
Ok dude :^)

>>172972854
>triggered
Everyone will care so much as you throw your 12,304th tantrum about your boogeyman :^) You should just throw it.
How's that non-existent game coming along? Still just an idea and nothing but? Delightful.

>>172973101
Citation needed because otherwise VCT is perfect for me.

>>172972919
>learn your music theory.
This is many times more difficult to learn and master than even the most esoteric programming language

artist and programmer here looking to collab

should i go 4 C++ or C#?
Also I'm idea guy.

>>172969928
t. Yandere Dev

>>172973367
Which engine are you using?

>>172967695
>Someone from aggydaggy is gonna make it
YOU CAN DO IT. Just don't post about niggers like Bokudev.

>>172970063
I'd play that. Keep it like the initial d games and i'd buy it.

>>172973348
What kind of game are you interested in making?

>>172973343
it is definitely not, music theory is easy as shit, it just has an exponential curve. so its easy to learn it "pretty good" but its damn difficult once you get to higher level concepts

it won't automatically give you the creativity to create masterpieces, but with basic music theory training (i'm talking like 2 months at most of study) you can pump out good enough sounding western music to use in your game

>>172973418
I want to create my own engine but using prefabricated C++ libraries, that's why i'm thinking on C# because is easier and has C++ .dll support.

>he doesn't even have a game let alone progress let alone a demo let alone a following
Why are you pretending to be a gamedev?

>>172967695
Did he kill a giant and decide to wear his empty nutsack as proof?

>>172973530
How much experience do you have with C# or C++?

>>172973530
C# can't directly use C++ libraries. You will need to write wrappers if they don't exist already. If you badly want to use C++ libraries you should use C++.

>>172969951
>>172970137
>>172973231
>>172973387
Instead of instantly feeding (You)s to whatever triggers you have you tried taking a second to consider why this post triggers you? Or are you afraid?

>>172973607
with C# XNA.
C++ just some calculators and CMD applications.

>>172973493
That's why I said "and master". Anybody can learn to write perfect, efficient code, in a reasonable amount of time. Very few people can ever learn to compose good music, even if they spent a lifetime on it. And no, you wouldn't become good enough to compose anything in 2 months starting from nothing.

>>172970204
>MFW the guy that did that was a Jew
rmyt

>>172973464
Bokudev is slowly paying the price for insisting to suck cock in the chat for imaginary agdg e-fame just like rotatedev. I look forward to seeing him fail because of agdg.

>>172973758
learn the following:
>scales, chords, intervals
>circle of fifths
>chord progressions
>4 voice harmony
>2-3 rythms, polyrythms
>arpeggios

try to copy another artists song until you've learned and understood.

music isn't as complex, is like writing in a new language, at first is hard, but you'll become better.

try to understand a new song you hear it using music theory.

>>172974024
Sounds like it's his fault and not AGDG's.

>>172973758
>And no, you wouldn't become good enough to compose anything in 2 months starting from nothing.
yes you would, excluding whatever time it takes to learn an instrument to record it.

add another 2 months of learning audio software and you can create your game's soundtrack by yourself.

as someone who has studied music theory for 4 year, I have to say 99% of video game soundtracks are extremely simplistic and rarely stray outside the bounds of basic western music theory. creating passive music for your game is easy as throwing some chords together in the right order, and noodling on top of them with your scale or mode. it takes slightly more effort to make a good melody, but its still trivial and the catchiness you'll often arrive at through sheer luck.

>>172974135
>excluding whatever time it takes to learn an instrument
So add in another 10 years then.