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>>172916240
How long until urine is neutered
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i wanna fuck millia
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How do you make training room grinding fun
After about 700 hours of it I just want to fucking kill myself and I can't make myself play anymore
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>>172916350
What game?
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>>172916254
Ky looks really strong, since Machaboo went back to him apparently.
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>>172916425
Xrd
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this is your new dlc character
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>>172916343
Just find a russian girl
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>>172916350
experimenting
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I need you Pai, I need you.
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>>172916480
Just accept it isn't going to be fun
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>>172916528
A russian girl can't fuck my ass with her hair
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>>172916350
Mix it with other stuff and do it in moderation.
Real matches will give you things to lab and labbing will give you insight and answers to the situations you work on.
There is always something to work on but it's pointless if your time isn't used effectively.
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exterminate all gief players
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Where do you even find the time to get good at a fighting game?
Do you just have to be a NEET?
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>>172916760
what do you do after work?
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>>172916760
all you need is to practice consistently
even with a job you should be able to spare 30 minutes to an hour a day
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>>172916582
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>>172916760
discipline and self-reflection goes a long way to improving in anything, spend time wisely, not profusely
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>>172916760
i have 100 hours on sfv and i'm ultra platinum
u can get good if u try
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>>172916518
He better drop that stupid fuck hat.
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>>172917098
$4 hatless costume
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>>172916760
Use some free time to practice and with enough hard work and dedication you'll get there.
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reminder that tokido is a literal genius and he could've been a millionaire if he played dota instead.
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>>172917219
he would be held back by his team mates
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>>172916821
>>172916983
>>172917201
I'm a slow learner, after 200 hours I couldn't get above super bronze in SFV
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>>172917219
>>172917351
So fucking true, both of these posts.
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>>172917405
like the other anon said, you need to spend time more wisely
you're stuck in super bronze because you don't understand what you're doing wrong
this is why lobbies are a good thing, you can actually talk to the people you're playing against and ask for feedback
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99% of /fgg/ can't do this.
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>>172917535
>this is why lobbies are a good thing, you can actually talk to the people you're playing against and ask for feedback
Nobody has an incentive to help you unless you're paying them to, so why would they?
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>>172917654
i just did it
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>>172917405
Locals nigga locals

you don't learn shit online because you are facing something that could be a computer for all you know
Go to locals, play flesh and blood people, get bopped and then ask the motherfucker that just mopped the floor with you what you did wrong
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>>172917654
Why would anyone need to?
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>>172917669
most people i've interacted with do it because they're nice
i dunno who you've been playing with that acts like that but most people enjoy helping new/bad players
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I hope Capcom never fucking touches fighting EX layer. They ruin everything they touch lately.

Speaking of fighting layer, is there any Arika merchandise anywhere? I can't find any, I would totally wear an Arika t-shirt.
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Apart from Ryan Hart, is there even any good British fighting game players?
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ASW are so retarded.
If they made Rev 20$ in that steam sale I wouldve picked it up because then adding the rev2 update would be 40$ overall which is the price of rev2 standalone.
IT EVEN WAS 20$ ON PSN

But no, they insist on jewing so they wont get that sale.
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>>172917847
Problem X is british right?
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>>172917847
ProblemX is competent.
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>>172917741
I don't have locals man I'm not american or japanese
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>>172917934
>>172917975
I said good, not bodied and teabagged at WNF.
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>>172917669
helping new players get stronger means a bigger pool of competitive players and more fun matches played, that's why people get good in the first place
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>>172918038
Then don't play fighting games my man. Fighting games are only worth playing if you live near a local hotspot.
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>>172918038
that's a poor excuse, a lot of fgc communities are on facebook groups, especially for sf and smash
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>>172918132
Doesn't mean I can just regularly drive 500 km to play fighting games for a few hours
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>>172917761
it's the best throw in the game
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>>172917831
the game looked like garbage that would be dead on arrival
>awful animation
>pitiful damage from combos
>no interesting mechanics besides le 3d step gimmick so unique and innovative wow
people only like it because wow grafix!!!!
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>>172918339
do you live in like the dick tip of finland or something
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>>172918553
People only like it because its not SFV*
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>>172917219
>>172917351

Yeah but Dota 2 professionals are insufferable. At least the FGC is fun to hang out with in person
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>>172918461
Ivy deserves it too since she's the second best sc girl.
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>>172917654
da fuck game is this?
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>get matched with the same laggy spic over and over
i'm fucking dying for the april update
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>>172920016
soulcalibur

3d fighters tend to have wacky inputs

hayate from DOA has some crazy as fuck one

fucking raijin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdoa6U2fE2c
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>>172916240

It's gonna be a long couple of months
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>>172920514

I still don't understand who makes 2D fighters and thinks having a command input use the JUMP direction was a good idea. Yeah I know there's work arounds and people better than my shit ass but still.
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Why does Baiken have huge man feet in Xrd?
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>>172920514
his ceiling variation is cool as fuck
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Is anyone still playing Rev on PC in EU? Or should I not bother?
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>>172920841
She has nowhere near as big feet as SFV characters so stop complaining
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>>172920746
like command grabs with full circle motions? its not that silly since most of them dont combo into. so you can just use a normal's recovery to use buffer it, or a jump.

if youre talking about charge motions, then youre just really bad, unfortunately.
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>>172920936
I think it's the most active PC scene in Xrd.
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>>172920941
I said man feet not sasquatch feet
They should still be around 30% smaller
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why does /v/ know so little about fighting games? I thought /fgg/ was unknowledgeable but /v/ knows Jack shit. aren't some of you crossposters?
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>>172921024
i only come here to shitpost. i don't even play fighting games.
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>>172921024
Disinfo from /fgg/. Sometimes just to cap their own /v/posts and make fun of "them"
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>>172921024
Because unlike /fgg/ likes to believe, 90% of the fighting game audience is dudebros who mash buttons in story mode.
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>>172921016
tiny kawaii anime girl feet would look retarded on her, they're fine
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>>172920841

Balance
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>>172920936
It's fairly active but varies a lot between random lobbies and discord circlejerks.
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>>172921024
/v/ is a mixed bag
it's like 95% retards but since it's a bigger board, you still get a few people who are pretty knowledgeable just because of laws of probability
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>>172920841
>>172921016
Wut
Am I missing something?
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>>172921263
her VA is pretty od desu
also her new 2d seems to show her boobs whereas her old 2d had her back turned to you
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>>172921218
nubi really needs to kill himself.
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>>172918553
You literally described Tekken
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>>172920746
i thought the same, but you usually buffer it during another move animation

>>172920936
ye, feel free to see me right now
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>>172922013
yeah tekken is shit too
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>>172922013
>Tekken
>pitiful damage from combos
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>>172921424
Like seriously, someone post a picture of these supposed man feet
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>>172921024
/v/ has Hotashi
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>tfw want to play ranked all day to level up
>tfw anxiety about losing points
>tfw play casual matches instead
how do you deal with this
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>>172922663
>anxiety from playing video games
how pathetic can one person be
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>>172920635
You mean one month?
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>>172922736
anxiety anon cares too much
you don't care enough
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>>172922663
stop caring about meaningless points
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>>172922663
>doing the right thing

Casual matches teach you more since the "END RESULT" doesn't fucking matter to any magical points number


once i start beating the people I play casuals against stupidly easily is when I go to ranked, jump up a few hundred/thousand points then go back to casuals to learn the new mind tricks against this new bracket

Hitting an LP wall is less about how much you know aobut your character and more about knowing what stupid shit still stumps the silvers/golds/plats that you are facing
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>>172922013
tekken got easy 50% combos tho
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>>172922842
Why not just treat ranked the same as casuals?
what the fuck is this retarded logic, just think of the points just a way to match you with similar skilled players.

stop putting points in a pedestal
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Is there a reason why when I'm playing Combo, I can only do punch combos and sometimes just can't mix a special with the punches?

Also fuck Gargos.
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>>172922821
>meaningless
a silver will never make it out of pools
a master has a chance at making top 8
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>>172922962

You might be triggering his auto barrage. Can you explain a little bit more?
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>>172922958
eh its a self mindgame thing

probably comes from moba/CS culture where anyone below "x" is a subhuman retard that can't even get "y" arbitrary rank

fighting games are about personal growth so don't stunt it by ruining your will to improve since you didn't immediately shoot to ultra diamond

online isn't a great place to learn anyway but matches make practice and practice is practice no matter what
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>>172917516
>Frc was an issue for beginners but was a relatively easy hurdle to overcome. I hate the time pause shit RC does in Xrd. It slows down the gameplay way too much.

Time pausing for cancels work in others. It fits in nicely with ASB but that's because it's tempo is different.
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>fell for the killer shitstink meme
>bought it, played it for one day, realized it was a shitty RPS simulator
>uninstalled
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>>172923140
>a shitty RPS simulator
Welcome to fighting games.
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>>172919309
Plenty of fun ones.

>>172916350
5 minutes lab then que up.
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>>172922958
Lol this. You do know there's mods that hide any sign of Player points and ranking. Better yet it's an ingame option.
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>>172923274
these mods are useless
you can hide your silver rank from yourself but i can see it clear as day, you diaper
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>>172923274
Not saying it to >>172922958 personally but as a thing one should note kind of post/remind.

>>172923324
I am upper palt though.
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>>172923324
The point of it's to remove the point obsession from the person who has anxiety over them. Nobody gives a shit if YOU see it.
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>>172923181
they should just blend fighting games with mobas already, like a power stone type game. this shit would be so much more interesting if it deviated from the typical combos -> coinflip setup -> combos -> ... design.
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>>172923324
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Online Points Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha
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>>172923120
anyone below diamond doesn't even qualify as human desu senpai
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>>172923085
>auto barrage
I read about that but am not quite sure what exactly it is. I'll just have to figure out how to avoid doing that and when to use it.
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>>172923442
See me in Jive right now you shitty apustaja poster

you wont
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>>172922958
People need to realize that. When you are good you will climb those ranks.
If you drop down you will be able to get back to where you used to be, and if you dont then your rank was fraudulent to begin with so you've got no business having that until you improve which is perfectly fine.
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>>172923386
lmao mobas have RNG coded into their core gameplay
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>>172923386
see here's the issue with that

>coinflip setup

You have to remember that the OTHER PLAYER had to make a choice in that setup
"do i go for a frametrap/do i throw/do i risk getting AA'ed for a crossup"
So by making that choice he gives you data on what he's more comfortable with or thinks is going to work.

You, as the defender, have to then start forming data from that
"oh man this guy really likes the crossup attempt into tic throw, better start backdashing after that st.lp"

Its the reason we play sets and not single games, its to allow people to make adaptations rather than just rely on prebaked setup games that are hard to read.

Fundamentals > Mindgames > optimal combos
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>>172923520
post cfn
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>>172923520
see me in a ft100 right now fucking silver scrub
CFN: bobby_friend
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>>172923985
>>172924026
nice dodge
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>>172923985
robert_mate
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>>172924080
You motherfucker. I asked to FT5 you in SF4 five fucking years ago and you dodged me. I'm still waiting for that fucking set.
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>better balance does not absolutely correlate to a better fighting game

Does anyone else have similar sentiments? I've begun to personally realize this myself the more I play and watch fighting games
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>>172921503
>her VA is pretty od desu

Which one? She's had like three. Her current one is only 47.

>>172921503
>also her new 2d seems to show her boobs whereas her old 2d had her back turned to you

Her new 2D don't give no fucks. She's gone through some interesting character development
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>>172924165
the easiest way to balance something is through homogenity, but that defeats the purpose of making unique characters
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>>172917405
Then play lobbies with someone better than you and ask them what you should improve on. This helps out tremendously.
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>>172924165
Its definitely not absolutely because its not the end all be all.

No factor is.
Its still really important to me.
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You know I could almost resist the tits. I can fight off the tight fitting low ridding pants. But having Mai be voiced by Saori Hayani? That's just cheating and they know it. There's no resisting that.
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>>172924486
>literally no ass

Yawn...
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>>172924165
I'd rather have a great fighting game with 2 good characters than a mediocre fighting game with 30.
Balance is pretty unimportant.
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>>172924217
No she isn't. It's not character development if it happens off-screen.
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who the fuck passed you the stick n said u could play?
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>>172924746
>It's not character development if it happens off-screen.

Except for the part where it happened on screen over the course of however fucking many X games and Rev 1. You being to dumb to pay attention doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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>>172924694
This is why Melee is one of the best.
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>>172924486
Severe case of no-ass and same-face. No thanks.
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>>172924486
>no blonde hair

Boring.
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Oki in Guilty Gear is a lot more honest than in SFV, some really nasty characters being the exception.
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Who's looking to be top tier in Rev 2?
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>>172925021
Blonde is the most boring hairstyle after black though.
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>>172925129
Ragna
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>>172925021
>Blond

Absolutely disgusting
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>>172925156
>>172925290
Nah.
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>>172925156
Well perfect things do tend to be boring
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPqFzeAAlUc
>trials volume 2
>more easy fight money
based capgod
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>>172925502

That seriously can't be the best you could come up with..oh wait you like blonds, it probably was.
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>>172925156
Black hair is top tier.
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>>172923039
Do you think master level players got to being master level thanks to ranked?
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>>172923039
a silver isn't good yet
a silver hasn't mastered antiairing
a silver doesn't know how to see a throw coming or to identify the pattern of where a mixup is going to hit

Just remember every master was silver at least once
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>>172925808
>play ranked
>it matches you with equal skill opponents in BO3 sets
>if you lose to randos online you'll lose to randos in tournaments
>grind online until you only lose sets to top players
>suddenly master rank
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>>172925129
zato and millia
i think its intentional at this point
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>>172925774

damn right it is
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>>172925912
That doesn't answer my question
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>>172925897
so what you're saying is that ranks aren't meaningless
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>>172925913
Nothing wrong with having consistent top tiers, at least then your work will never be wasted.
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>>172925923
>tfw no kanuka gf
kms
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>>172925774
But it's also boring.
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>>172926071
What hair colors aren't boring? Green? Neon Pink?
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>>172925913
Didn't they take away Millie's midscreen oki? Doesn't that hurt her?
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>>172925972
yes it does
playing ranked exposes you to all kinds of different players of similar skill and only gives you 2 games to adapt
thats why you see pros like haitani grinding ranked 24/7
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>>172926124
Red.
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>>172925992
at best an indicator of effort and experience, but a silver player can learn and improve

Thats the failing of the moba culture attached to those bronze/silver/gold rankiings

Moba's deemphasize a lot of personal skill and have a lot to do with whole map awareness and capacity for teamwork. A support that can't hit shit but perfectly coordinates with their team wins more than they lose. A mid that works well with their jungler wins more than they lose. Personal skill doesn't have nearly as much of an impact.

Its hard to learn those things that make people better at mobas, but fighting games aren't mobas. You can learn setups, matchups, combos, etc and improve them on your own.
So while someone may be a silver at league and never move past it, its not hard to imagine an ultra bronze putting in the work and making plat if he has the will.
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I bought that 7$ blazblue game of steam.
Its kind of shit. What should I do.
Joined a game with people in it and did the *licklick* thing but they just ignored me, eventually the room closed.
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>>172926071

Black hair is most certainly not boring. It creates a sense of mystique. It's alluring and adult. The silky smooth shine of raven colored hair against the pale white skin creates a juxtaposition that oozes sex appeal.

Though I guess that last bit only really works on white or Asian girls.
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WELCOME
TO
THE
KING
OF
THE
IRON
FIST
TOURNAMENT
SEVEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhLod0BL_dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TgllFyfW3s
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Why does every fighting game have a black guy who throws heavy punches?
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>poongko lost his sponsorship
esport life is hard
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>>172926362
>it's the tekken shill again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybIIdMVGxgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRvZyFR-0zM
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>>172926392

Not many brothers who practice baijiquan
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>>172926454
mfw 99% of tekken posts come from this one autist

nobody cares about this boring ass series lmao
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>>172926630
i only care because i want to play with maki and ageha again, i just hope they're off 3g this time
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>>172926630
So you turn into a retard with a hammer?
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>>172926630

I care. Though there's not really anything to say till the game comes out besides how great mai waifu looks in her new outfit
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>>172926697
Did they drop Tag2?
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>>172926776
i want to ride asuka's bike!!
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>>172926630
I care.

t. 17er Tekken player
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>>172924746
That's what happens with the majority of fgs' characters though. They change over the years.
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>5am
>want to play sfv and grind lp
>probably only a few other autist neets on at this hour that will body me and take my points
>cant play during normie hours for wider range of opponents because not a normie
fml desu
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>>172926834
>TFW no sweet ass bile with your name on it

Now that it's getting nicer I should really consider cycling more. Cars are fucking expensive.
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>>172926834
I want to sniff Asuka's bike seat.
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>>172926950
>sfv
>rankedboar
>frogposter
>neet

just kys desu
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>>172926776
Good taste
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>>172926950
>5am
>only game i can play is tekken because there aren't enough autist neets with good connections playing other games i'd want to play
>will never be decent at it
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>>172927018
if you are not at least 3 of these things you need to get out of this thread right now
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>>172927158
>"if you are not sfv"

the state that my life is in really is sfv. makes me think.
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>>172927018
>mfw our boy wolfkrone popped off on this dumb phuck since he didn't have his phat phuck friends there to help him
so fucking based
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>>172926950
Even as a neet its nicer to be awake when its daytime.
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>>172927261
i agree
i hate being up through the night but it just happens this way for reasons
at least i'll have persona 5 waiting for me on tuesday as soon as i wake up at 6pm
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>>172927242
based desu
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>>172926950
If you're not good enough to beat those turbo-autists and just grind them off normies you don't deserve your points.
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SFV isn't fun anymore. Why?
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>>172927619
urien
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>>172927586
but do they deserve their points if they are grinding hundreds of them off me?
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>>172927619
You realized the jive wasn't worth it.
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>>172927619
zangief and ibuki got buffed to SSSSSSSS tier
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>lol steam anime sale
>pick up uniel
>pick character based on how ridiculous something looks
>"this seems fun"
>try out shit in training
>play shit
>lose first 30mins in a row
>won the first match
>before KO officially happened the host disconnected

>pick up goober revelator exterminator ultra arcade edition while at it
>briefly test some changes in training to xrd sign main
>join a lobby
>take my time making notes while my ass's handed back to me
>win a match after downloading their flowchart
>same shit fucking happens all over again

Why is everyone such a fucking wimp in anime games? Street Fighter is known and popular and law of averages but come on.
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>>172927889
>outplay zangief for 60 seconds with perfect pokes, spacing, anti airs, fireballs
>zangief gets one lucky jump in combo for 35%
>oki, guess wrong
>there goes another 30% and now you have 95% stun
>pokes you with his jab that covers half the screen while you try to escape
>jump in headbutt ca for 700 damage
exterminate all zangief players
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>>172926950
i play late at night and everyone on this late are free my man
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>>172927958
happens to me too, i lose a lot in a row, finally figure it all out and beat them once and they leave the fucking lobby
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>>172927958
Weebs are usually insecure and give up easily. SFV has the same problem too though.
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>>172928036
Just wait until air-headbutt stun combos into 80% of your life.
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>>172927958
>>lol steam anime sale
>>pick up uniel

I'm sorry what?? There is a PC Version? And it's on a steam sale?
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>tfw playing tekken tag 2 online in a freezing cold room at 3am while heavily caffeinated
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>>172928457
http://store.steampowered.com/app/452510/
Ends in 7 hours.
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>>172928534
Is the netcode playable? Is there another version comming out in a month?
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>>172924165
Balance is a very high priority and it's not a zero sum game contrary to the memes.
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>>172928658
no word on [st] coming anytime soon

netplay is meh, helps if youre within the same region, and youll have to find matches using discord
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Tekken 7 will save fighting games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrsL6YFvY1M
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>>172929047
Eliza will save fighting games.
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>>172929047
it cant even save the franchise
not unless they throw esports money at it
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>>172927958
Anime players are afraid of failure. If they weren't they would play sfv like every other normal person.
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>>172916350
learn other characters, take breaks to play actual matchs and/or stretch
you literally can not git gud in this day and age without training mode
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>>172916350
>>172916480
lmfao

Anime fighters.

not even once my guy.
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>>172929047
What is this horrible theme where is the cool FR wub wub
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>>172929267
That's not really true. It just takes longer without training mode.
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>>172929176
Which they inevitably will since they see it's keeping SFV afloat.
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>>172929236

Anime fighters at least play shit they actually like rather than pretending to be some kind of super badass online warrior who pays for garbage because it's got a name brand.
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>>172928780
Thx m8
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>>172929589
Keep telling yourself that
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>>172929138
I just Pre-ordered Eliza's collectors edition

Hope you're proud
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>>172929917
Pre-order the digital deluxe edition too and I will be.
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>>172927619
i actually just started liking it lol
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What a wonderfully balanced fighting game

https://clips.twitch tv/SplendidSpineyBaguetteLitty
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>>172927619
>anymore

SFV hasn't been fun since the third beta.
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>>172929589
lmao
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>>172929358
it's true because people who are lab monsters are always going to level up certain aspects faster (execution, confirms, spacing) than people who only play matches. so the people in the lab take to the time to get fundamentals AND THEN play matches are using their time more quickly like you said, and by the time you've caught up or reach a games supposed plateau, they've moved on to some other game. happened with a lotta decent 09ers that started playing fighting games with sf4
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>>172926630
Yeah, the Internet only cares about SF. Too bad the real world doesn't...I'd take commercial success over the FGC any day. We're all too irrelevant.
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Im getting an artwork printed out for my arcade stick, i need some ideas for lewd artworks.
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>>172929176
You do know Tekken is making HUGE money with the arcades alone, right? T7 became the biggest Tekken ever in just 2 months after release in 2015.

Not to mention the huge console sales it gets everytime. TTT2, a minor spinoff outselling a main numbered and super promoted SF is embarassing already.

you know, the US in't the only country in the world
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>>172930740
>i need some ideas for lewd artworks

A women in a bikini. A skimpy bikini.
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>>172930638
>and by the time you've caught up or reach a games supposed plateau, they've moved on to some other game

Good thing fighting games don't have an expiration date and you can keep playing them then.
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>>172930997
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>>172930825
The fact that Tekken remains the fg series with the highet budget speaks for itself.
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>>172929845
>>172930426

You ever notice how SF fags can never respond with anything of merit and always resort to reaction faces and lame intern acronyms.
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>>172931220
Do you actually expect serious responses to your absolute garbage tier worse than /v/ tier shitposting?
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>>172922739
Not if youre on pc
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>be audiophile
>sound in video games is very important to me
>but do worse when playing fighting games with audio on because it distracts me

What do?
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>>172931865
How the fuck is the audio of Fighting Games distracting when it gives a lot of helpful soundcues to help you react to shit?
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>>172931865
play more until you know all tracks by heart and they require no brain power to process anymore.
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>>172931865
````````````````````````````audiophile''''''''''''''''''''''
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>>172931865
I bet you're one of those people who think vocal tracks shouldn't be in fighting games because they're too distracting
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>>172918553
>pitiful damage from combos
Thats actually par for the course in this series.
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>>172932176
They are.
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>>172917654
Just do a 1080° and then press a+b
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>>172926630
I care and I don't even own a rig good enough to run T7
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>>172930638
>16er silver jiver doesn't know about the arcade culture
post cfn
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>>172933448
just cause people used to do something a certain way doesn't mean they were better at it

how many ogs are truly relevant in sfv?
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>>172931220
But Brick plays melty and can hardly run jive
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>>172933679
that's a very long cfn i think you're lying
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eh, fuck guilty gear. Only sign in non UK EU shop.
I don't want to make a US psn account.
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>>172933940
oh I'm not the guy you're talking to and I don't play jive. just remarking that arcade culture wasn't necessarily the optimal way to go about learning a game just because people used to do that (because they had little choice) back then
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>>172933953
You're probably Spanish so I can forgive the low IQ

It's called Revelator
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>>172933953
It's called revelator senpai
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>>172933953
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>>172933953
also heard sign came half a year later to eu shops and didn't have the dlc characters and got no patches for months.
Lazy ass bitches, you can moan all you want about SFV but ArcSys takes the cake in yurop.
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>>172933953
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>>172933953
imagine being this dumb
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2B in tekken wheeeeeeeeeeen
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Should I be using DP or LS setting on my stick?
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>>172933953
Truly our guy
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>>172934494
tekken excite
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>>172934647
i dont even know what they do but mine is on LS
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>>172934647
>>172934813
I did a quick search and people say LS has lag, not sure how true that is though.
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How the sf4 revival going on ? havn't heard about it recently
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>>172933953
>console
>console in eu
Play on PC like everyone else.
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>>172935462
Literally random lighting and shading. How can an artist fall so hard from former grace?
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What does the announcer say in last blade 2?
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>>172935462
>Ryu, Bison and Necalli biggest in the picture

I am still kinda mad about the story mode.

>at no point is it explained what on earth Bison's plan even was except something something space science mumbo jumbo
>Necalli jobs throughout the entire thing while characters keep implying how dangerous he is
>Ryu literally does nothing except appear at the end to fuck over Bison because everyone else is incompetent
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>>172935652
The story mode was rushed as well. Supposedly it was going to explain the change in Bison looks (his story mode costume was not even used when it fits for the last battle), why Ken has a different clothing and bit different fighting style, Ryu's bearded look, etc. Nothing of that made it. Plus, Necalli was actually Akuma redesigned,
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>>172935652
You know what's the funniest part is? It's still thousand times better than sfiv's ''''''''story''''''''''.
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>>172935652
>at no point is it explained what on earth Bison's plan even was except something something space science mumbo jumbo

It's to push the world into despair by causing global blackouts/crashing those spheres into cities to increase his Psycho Power which feeds on people's negative emotions.

The story mode was literally about Rashid with Ryu/Necalli forced in because they are the posterboys of SF/SFV respectively.
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>>172934494
androids don't have pussy hair
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>>172935857
kys peter
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>>172935894
androids can have whatever you want them to have, dumbo
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>>172935161
Everyone's gonna move back to console for Rev 2
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>>172935869
>to increase his Psycho Power which feeds on people's negative emotions.
STREET FIGHTER
IS
NOT
ANIME
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>>172926950
I can sympathize with that desu. I'm on a schedule that doesn't correlate to my time zone either so my most active times are when I have to play with europeans or faggot ass californians who are drunk, high, or "dude it's just a game haha" in most online matches that aren't fightan. And the games I play people in my area are only on when I can't do it except for every other weekend.
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>>172936059
...

But it is. I have the DVD on my bookcase.
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anyone marvel pc eu?
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>>172930303
like don't hit buttons hahahah
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>>172930303
i love these when it's an honest character that has to work for his damage vs a braindead vtrigger gorilla, really shows how dumb the game can be sometimes
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>>172937150
>rashid
>honest
>has to work for damage
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>>172930825
why does everyone always talk about sales and casual market and twitch views when talking about whether or not a game is dead or not
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>>172935857
SFIV was nothing spectacular either but at least it felt coherent compared to SFV's rushed story.

There are so many ideas thrown in SFV that aren't really explained or well-developed.

Why does M. Bison have grey hair?
Why is Necalli such a jobber?
Why does Ken have such a different design?
At the end of the Story Mode Ken says to Ryu that he looks different, yet he looks the same as before. How come?

I find SFV's story to be even worse than most fighting games story standards. I know that fighting games have shitty stories by definition, but it feels like the devs didn't even try to make it interesting somehow. It just reeks of carelessness and lack of effort. Which is pretty much everything about SFV, not just the story.
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>>172937361
>Why does M. Bison have grey hair?
he got old
>Why is Necalli such a jobber?
hes a mud man that splits his power, the necallis you fight in story mode are merely his shadow clones
>Why does Ken have such a different design?
he wants to be a special snowflake and differentiate himself from ryu
>At the end of the Story Mode Ken says to Ryu that he looks different, yet he looks the same as before. How come?
hes more muscular and he got a new haircut
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>>172937291
i can't think of a more honest and perfectly balanced top tier than rashid desu
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>>172937296
Because only thing that matters is "is there players", and more sales means that the answer if more likely "yes".
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>>172937361
>Why does M. Bison have grey hair?

His body is rapidly aging because of Psycho Power overdose; hence dolls.

>Why is Necalli such a jobber?

There's a strong soul of a warrior in him that he consumed before that is fighting him for control.

>Why does Ken have such a different design?

To distance him from being a clone of Ryu.

>At the end of the Story Mode Ken says to Ryu that he looks different, yet he looks the same as before. How come?

He found his inner peace/determination/whatever feelgood bullshit and it sorta radiates off of him.
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>>172937361
Ken redesign is actually pretty good. His model and proportions are just dogshit.
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Don't mind me, just rolling for the next game I learn properly:

0: UNIEL
1: Guilty gear
2: Set up ps3 and ttt2
3: king of fighters
4: MKXL
5: umvc3
6: yatagarasu
7: melty blood
8-9 keep playing Jive lmao
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>>172937571
>cr.hp is honest
>dash back vtrigger into memes is honest
>hk tornado cancel into roll that pushes you half away across the stage into the corner on block is honest
kys jaheed
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>>172937663
just hop and mash
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>>172937638
>His body is rapidly aging because of Psycho Power overdose; hence dolls.

This is never explained in the main Story.

>There's a strong soul of a warrior in him that he consumed before that is fighting him for control.

That's what he is but why is he introduced in a so important way when all he does in the Story is losing and adding nothing to the overall events?

>To distance him from being a clone of Ryu.

Fair enough, but why isn't this explained in the Story? Matt Dahlgren said they would've explained that in the Story Mode. They didn't.

>>172937639
Mine wasn't a comment on how the looks, but rather asking why he looks like he does.
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>>172937626
you can see if there are players by looking at steam numbers and fgc tournament numbers

mortal kombat may sell 10 million copies but its active player base is smaller than street fighter

makes u tihnk
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>>172937678
>hk tornado cancel into roll that pushes you half away across the stage into the corner on block is honest

Holy fuck this so much it deals tons of grey health, and puts you in the corner for free.
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>>172937663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3KVgI1LvU
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>>172937626
mortal kombat
sfv

easy counterexamples that are unsurprisingly not exceptions to the rule
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sfv should add a forward roll tech
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Should we remove CCs in SFV ?

It's stupid to have 50/50 where you can either get thrown and get 50 damage, or miss a tech and get CC leading to a 400 damage combo, with corner carry.
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>>172938237
crush counters are the most fun thing about sfv you dumb cunt
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>>172938237
No, they should just keep them for one or two buttons rather than almost every heavy button.

Like it was in Beta 1, which is also the only good version of SFV.
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>>172938025
Might have to veto because I realized I dont own a ps4 and KOF13 is dead.
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>>172938301
yeah because reducing neutral to crush counter bait is tons of fun right ?

>>172938469
They should at least be unsafe as fuck
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>>172917654
I used to do this all the time, friends hated my Ivy.
>40% command throw on a ranged character
Soul Calibur best kusoge
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Will snk ever make a non kof fighting game? I think they have the potential to make the next street fighter
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>>172938529
Fightcade
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>>172937150
Two wrong guesses.
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>>172937150
>holding downback when Balrog is punching you
Really nigga
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are there a lot of tournaments where converters are banned?
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>>172930303
>attacking Laura when she has v-trigger on and meter at that low health
>hitting a button when Laura is +2

"muh balance"

"muh balance"
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>>172939057
Laura and Balrog apologists are even worse than SFV apologists.
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>>172937571
Necalli
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>>172937150
>>172938828
Balrog can't go low with his v-trigger sequence if he started on straight punch. When in depth knowledge of the matchup is more widespread Balrog will still be top 5 easily.
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>>172930303
How did the Rashid fuck up his jumpin that badly, twice?
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How are you supposed to get started with Xrd? All the online play happens in lobbies full of way more experienced people.
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>>172939317
Don't play online, play with people locally
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>>172939317
>complaining
Fuck off. If you can't figure out how to get started then just google it, otherwise go back to SFV instead of complaining about how hard it is.
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>>172939148
I play Laura, but I'm not an apologist. V-trigger damage for some of the moves, like HP Bolt, has to be removed. EX Clap into HP Bolt deals way too much damage, it should be drastically cut.

He still messed up by sperging on the offense and pressing a button when Laura has the advantage.
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Games? US EC
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Is anyone here going to Combo Breaker?
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i got a friend whos interested in fighting games, they asked for a beginner video and i linked them one, what else can i do to make it easier for them to get into?
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Who should I learn in revelator that's still gonna be good in rev 2?
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>>172939598
Offline training mode with him, explain him how shit works, and maybe teach him the basics of the character he's most interested in.
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Is this gay furry?
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>>172939598
Play with him. Fighting games with friends are fun. Just don't go tryhard mode on him. Teach him stuff, answer questions, don't pick your 9000bp main, play fun modes like tekken ball, etc
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>>172939742
I don't see 13 inch cock anywhere, so no.
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>>172939720
the offline training idea is a good idea but sadly i live on the west coast and he lives in the mid west, yeah ill try my best to get him going with the basics

>>172939754
yeah ill probably pick a sub character on him and shit, i just hope he finds it fun
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>>172939598
also this >>172939754

Playing online taking turns while drinking beers is tons of fun, even if he's a total shitter, plus you can give him advice on the go.

Remember to have fun.
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>>172939598
Destroy him in a few sets.
Dont let him out of the corner for a second.
Thats how I learned, you really get good at blocking like that.
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>>172937678
cr.hp was nerfed and has a huge ass hurtbox now on top of statup, vtrigger memes are not practical, don't lead to great damage and raw activation is punishable or just jump back buttons, hk wws roll cancel is slow and unsafe

i don't think you understand what dishonest is, polturd
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This is your Lili for tonight
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>>172939443
>just block dude
>command dash you into oki
It's almost like you have to make a decision and challenge or not.
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>>172939914
>Playing online taking turns while drinking beers is tons of fun,
FUCK OFF letsplayboar
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>>172939916
>they raped me when I started
>bu-but I learned so much, it was a good experience...
A variety of Stockholm Syndrome.

>now rape someone else who is starting out
THE worst advice.
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>>172940105
That's how you seperate the weak from the strong.
If they cant handle that, they will quit anyways. Might aswell speed up the process
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>>172939317
whore yourself out online and hope you find people. the "dude join discord" experience fucking sucks so bad i don't even try anymore with people i don't know.
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>>172939598
Get a few easy to play for beginners games.

You can emulate Smash and Soul Calibur 2 on Dolphin, so those are pretty good. Could grab Divekick or the Fantasy Strike beta too.
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>>172940082
If Laura is at +2, you can't challenge, you either choose to block or avoid (jump/dodge). The worst mistake was not to retreat and play a zoning game unless until Laura had no more v-trigger. Both mistakes born from the thrill of the moment and having seen the life advantage disappear.
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>>172940263
Who would even want to play with a total beginner though
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>>172940195
That's just some bs form of initiating ritual for the purpose of "Someone's been a dick to me. Now it's my turn.".
Just continuing the cycle instead of breaking it. But I guess that's how you keep your group of tribal masochists going.
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>>172940426
He's going to experience the exact same thing for the first 200 hours from everybody else, why lie to the guy?
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is there really no yuro here other than broski that plays umvc3
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>>172940030
That's a lot of fat.
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>>172940582
marvel is first rate kusoj
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>>172939317
Ask for advice in the lobbies. Surprisingly many people will be ready to drop some hints.
Who know, if you are lucky you might even meet a sensei type like me
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>>172940496
how does that make it easier for a beginner to get into the genre you retard
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I wonder if Punisher even has a chance of being in MVC:I
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>>172940607
kusob can be a blast
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>>172939317
See me in Xrd and I'll teach you the ropes
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>>172940657
>>172940657
Big chance I'd say with him getting his own show and being on Daredevil
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>>172940656
It doesn't, and the genre isn't ever going to be easy to get into. Let the guy know what he's got coming.
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>>172940657
Wasn't MVC:I canned for the time being?
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>>172940582
you wanna go? you know the netcode doesn't matter
how much do you want those games
>>172940839
theres never been any proof of this statement being made by anyone in charge
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>>172940754
why would you reply to a post asking for ways to help ease a beginner into fighting games and give advice that doesn't help ease a beginner into fighting games
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>>172940681
I'm not at home right now, assuming that was a serious offer.
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>>172940657
With the new show maybe. But I guess he would be something like Deathstroke in vanilla Injustice or maybe Chris Redfield in MvC3. Both really boring to me.

Would be fun though, if they included 90's Punisher with the flappy boots, the Punisher bike and "rubber bullets" bc he didn't kill back then.
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>>172940968
Because it's a pointless endeavour. If you slowly ease somebody into a meat grinder it's just going to hurt more.
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>>172940582
Anyone who actual cares about marvel played it for years on xbox
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Confess your sins.
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>>172941008
Well neither am I anon, I'm getting there. The offer stands though.
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>>172941102
and taking an elevator down a 50-foot building will be a lot more enjoyable than jumping off the roof

analogies are fucking retarded and so is your advice
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>>172941221
I'm scared of playing in tournaments with Bo5 because it makes me want to go take a piss mid-set
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>>172941285
Warning though, I'm totally fucking new. Like, haven't even decided on a character yet new.
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How good is Chloe in T7?
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>>172920746
I know Skullgirls recognizes when you're trying to do a full circle and doesn't jump then
But yeah, usually it's done via buffering
>>
>win first round
>connection goes to shit and they start landing shit they couldn't in the second round
niggas even doing this in the beta. lose my will to sfv when this happens. why doesn't capcom do shit about lag switchers? i don't give as much of a shit about rage quitters
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>>172941221
I force wifi laggers to voluntarily quit their game and lose 300-400LP by slowing my game down to 0.1 fps

not a sin though lel
>>
anyone wanna play melee?
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>>172940404
Some people are in to sparring or teaching. If that player keeps showing up and showing that they will put in the effort to get better then I don't have a problem playing some sets with someone. You can learn new shit teaching players like choosing players you don't play or better understanding the game from explaining it to someone else.
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>>172941647
Her cuteness overrides any tier positioning.
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>>172941647

>good

She's the worst in the game and has been for about 2 years now. Honestly unless you just like the character you're better off playing anyone else if you want to win. She's kind of a joke.
>>
Tekken

How do I juggle?
Will the move list help me?
When I watch pros play they seem to tie together different 1-2 combos into 10-hit strings.
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>>172941884
learn your launchers
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>>172941884
just play kazuya and mash your punches
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>>172941647
She's okay, the hardest to use of the newcomers probably.
She's especially good if the opponent doesn't know how to deal with her shit, people are going to get some cheap wins with her at the beginning.
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>>172941647
One of the top16 of FR20 used her iirc
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>>172942236

He literally got away with doing the unsafest shit.

Your opponent not knowing what the fuck is going on /= good character.
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Why are there no games like Samurai Shodown or Last Blade anymore? The only thing that seems any close at all is Koihime.

Also i thought it was spelled Showdown until yesterday when I looked it up on google.
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>>172942427
because no one buys them
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>>172942427
they just don't sell
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fite me
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anyone for melee?
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>>172941393
well do the tutorial and I'll see you later today, gonna run some melty sets with someone else in a bit
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>>172942879
waz ur reegon
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>>172942918
>>>/Kidspartypackgeneral/
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>>172942879
Highway Star if you got another trip I swear to god I will shit in you breakfast
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>>172942928
US EC
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>>172942959
>muh boogeyman
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>>172942992
u got lucky this time, bucko
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People still play SFIV and KoFVIII right?
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>>172943061
Nigga who the fuck are you
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>>172943082
SF4 yes
KOFXII you have to go to some shady discord to find games
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>>172928274
This so much. People that play at night are ridiculously trash, but whenever I play during daytime they are pretty godlike. Makes no sense.
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https://twitter.com/GREATFERNMAN/status/848865685677629441 it's ogre
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Is it June 2nd yet
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>>172943553
>remove moves from a neutral heavy character in a new version of a game where neutral is almost irrelevant
like what did they expect?
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I've been hearing rumor of an E3 leak that had TxSF on it. Is T7 really going to be obsolete less than a year after it's release?
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Juri's V-Trigger should even be two-bar and work just like it works right now or still be three-bar but without additional depletion of the V-Gauge everytime she cancels a normal into a stronger one.
>>
There's this PC dude I got matched up with SFV and he was fucking teleporting everywhere despite me searching for people with 4-5 bars. I couldn't do shit because I couldn't follow him. Fucking hackers
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>>172944578
Search only 5
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>>172944256
the game released 3 years ago
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>>172944578
we call that "the classic"
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>>172944256
>obsolete because of an announcement
From Bamco track record you can expect TxSF to release 3 years after its announcement
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>x-factor 3 vergil
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>>172945451
thats nothing
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>>172944550
she'll probably be comfortably mid-tier post patch and won't need any buffs or nerfs.
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>play ranked for the first time after S2 hit
>finally decide to leave Silver
>win 2 games no problem
>3rd game get disconnected 1 second after my win gets counted
Jesus fuck, every game is stressful because servers might fuck up and steal you points
>>
>Be Necalli
>Have two of the best anti-airs in the game
>Have a projectile invincible move
>Have a projectile move
>Have a command throw that can be looped meaty
>Have a dive kick
>Have an infinite v-skill that improves your already ridiculous damage
>Have the best jab in the game

When Capcom was making this faggot do you think they were just like, lets put the best of everything on one character?


And meanwhile Akuma............
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>>172943553
Literally who?
>>
anyone for some melee?
>>
>>172944256
>I've been hearing rumor
kill yourself
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>>172946252
>When Capcom was making this faggot do you think they were just like, lets put the best of everything on one character?
>And meanwhile Akuma............

You know that Necalli was supposed to be Akuma, right?
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>>172946381
I figured, but I don't want Akuma to be replaced!
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SFV was a mistake

t. Kappaboar
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>>172946883
Hi /v/
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>>172946252
*Radar sounds*
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>>172946883
hhhhhyyyyypppppeee
>>
>>172945451
>mvc3
lmao
>>
>>172946252
Necalli is such a failure, capcom wanted people to like him so hard
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>>172946252
None of his options are inherently overpowered though, that's why people don't complain about him that much.
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4 hours until pc steam beta ends.
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>>172946883
This clip makes me wonder why doesn't Capcom want to make a game without shitty general mechanics that at the end of the game's lifespan always end up breaking themselves.
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>>172946883
>>
>>172946883
UMEHARA KA
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>>172946883
>muh combos
Why not just play rhythm games if you think that's somehow compelling?
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>>172947191
he stood no chance vs Rashid as the most liked newcomer
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>>172947249
t.necalli main
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guys, shut the fuck up

necallis exposure is getting way too high
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>>172947403
Calm down Cammy
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>>172946252
Why are you complaining about a well-rounded character with tonnes of options that is still balanced? If he was braindead like cammy would you be happy?
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>>172946883
Dood I freakin love third strike!
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>>172947509
necalli isn't braindead?

>t.necalli main
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>>172947191
Yeah man you can feel the passion and love in every single detail.
>>
For PC, what is the better option between keyboard and controller (besides fightstick)
>>
>>172947920
Nonghosting keyboard for highest efficiency, pad for most comfortable.
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>>172947920
controller
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>>172947565
>40x22
how
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>>172947565
Dont post ever again you dumb fat tripnigger
>>
im about to fall for the necalli meme, i swear if i dont rack up them points this nigga is on the radar
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>>172948387
He's a really thoughtful, well-designed character with lots of options, i hope you have fun exploring him anon!
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>Urien is honest
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Did I fuck up buying xrd-rev for PC(NA).
Should I just refund.
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>>172948387
enjoy your points
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>>172948220
you have no power here
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>>172948519
Should be fine if you play during nonNEET hours.
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>>172948589
>gets punished at the end for taunting
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>>172948680
>rashid
>ever being out of plus frames
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>>172948490
Aegis being a V skill is fucking stupid.
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>>172948589
Is memeing on people who have 100 hours tops in any fighting game ever, never mind sfv supposed to be impressive?
>>
Garou is the SFV of SNK fighting games.

Boring, slow as hell, at times snowball-ish and worst music.

Also it flopped hard, just like SFV.
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>>172947583
Everyone in SFV is braindead.
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>>172945125
>obsolete because of an announcement
That's how anime games work
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>>172948815
who needs to impress YOU, anonyderp #4trillion?
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>>172948890
ibuki is very smart!
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>>172948879
This makes no sense. It's the 3S of SNK, objectively.
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>>172948879
What about kof 12
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>>172949102
Nah, as much as I'm not fond in 3S at least that game is quite fast.

Garou feels like you're underwater, just like SFV.
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quick how do i not come across like a desperate fanboy when talking to ryan hart
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>>172949498
Im tweeting this post to him.
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>>172949498
call him a nigger
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>>172949551
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>>172949498
Say ''Yo whats up my niggy''
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>>172949498
act like you know what you're talking about
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>>172949498
ask him if he smells something

then say, oh its you ryan fart
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>>172949498
Pretend you're a Smash player.
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>>172949697
lmao do this
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>Dr. Doom
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>>172950226
>Captain Amerisuck
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>>172946252
Would people have liked Necalli if he was a girl?
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>>172949697
this but you have to say 'oh it's you' like how akuma says it in his intro
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/12667987
Vote
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>>172949498
Start smalltalk by saying "Why did you drop sf4?"
You soon will find many similarities like only playing the newest capcom game like a good drone.
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>>172950752
/r/kappa still this butthurt because people dropped their first fighting game
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>>172950632
Man those are some lame ass choices

I vote 'absent'
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>>172946252
Necalli is the incarnation of SFV
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>>172950521
That sounds amazing actually, but only if she had giant knockers.
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>>172950914
Calm down Luvcheez
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>>172950914
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>>172950794
>sf4 as first fighting game
lol
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>>172950998
anime is trash and dumb to smoke
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>>172950521
Just found the source for this too, damn. Why can't capcom do crazy shit like this.
Also little disappointed her hair is like that at all times..but whatever. Kinda neat tho, still. bleh
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>>172949175
Garou feels kinda floaty but so does 3S compared to ST or any of the alphas. Gamelay wise they did different things but in terns of everything else they have a lot in common.
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>>172950263
>All those skills packed in one lean mean B tier machine
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>>172950998
>>>/blog/
>>
>>172950998
Why not watching something good instead?

Is there some hidden requirement to have shit taste or mental disease in order to be a trip?
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>>172951107
Laziness, playing it safe, you name it, I'm kinda curious how the school costumes will look like once their in 3D.
>>
How long until fighting layer EX? 2018?
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>>172951247
Why are they watching gayinme instead of playing a fighting game. That should be the real question.
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>>172948879
Who still calls sfv boring in 2017? The last tournaments were hype as fuck and season 2 is pretty exciting, neck yourself back to kappa.
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>>172951075
>>172951075
Are you 54? Half the FGC has SFIV as their first fighing game.
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>>172951075
yeah thats r/kappa
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>>172951393
Prove it.
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>>172951382
The players, the commentary and the lack of Ryu/Chun/Necalli does that. Just need to get rid of Karin and Cammy and add more Vegas and FANGs.
>>
>>172951382
What's up with HighwayStar's obsession with r/Kappa? He talks so much about r/Kappa to the point he knows anything about them.

Like he's constantly pressing refreshing his page to see what they say or think.

Why is he so insecure?
>>
>>172951382
>it's a literal shill
>>
>>172951576
>being so insane that you apply identities to anonymous posters
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>Kazumi's attacks spawn a fucking tiger
>>
did sfv ever get that arcade cab they announced a while back
>>
where are her new costumes capcom reeeeeeeeee
>>
>>172951614
HighwayStar is our own The Lone Dragon. No one asked for him, yet he's there shitposting like a dumbo wacko fucko.

Also a terrible player.
>>
>>172951519
I main chun-li an don't want to see her anywhere for the rest of the season/year or whatever. Shes so shitty and broken weak ass character can barely finish out matches you're supposed to win. Just delete her and add someone entirely new and awesome.
>>
>>172951848
I want cummy to sit on my face
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>>172951990
calm down rashid
>>
>>172951839
i read somewhere about an arcade cab coming soon? or maybe that was just retards on here spouting non sense again

something about sony thing ending? fuck if i know
>>
>>172951576
He is legitimately autistic, if I saw him at a tournament I would stay as far away from him as I could.
>>
>>172951839
I saw Arturo tweeting about a Viewflix SFV cabinet of sort. I don't think it's an actual SFV cabinet build though, more like a Viewflix set-up with the console/PC version of the game inside of it.
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>>172951728
Welcome to 2015. It's still a good time to be a Tekken fan.
>>
>>172951918
Honestly I don't mind him it's like the retarded kid in your class that's happy to be the mascot of the class.

Everybody laughs at him but deep down they know it's wrong to do so.
>>
>>172951942
She's extremely boring to watch. She needs some of her reveal video moves back.
>>
>>172951839
>sfv "arcade"
It's the pc version in a cab. Not a single arcade feature.
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>>172952196
SFV is boring to watch.
>>
>>172951918
>No one asked for him
He only exists because of Dank.
Thats what you get.
>>
>>172952125
why are you replying to yourself? wanna play a fighting game instead?!
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>>172952370
I would play SFV with you HighwayStar, but I gotta leave for a local tournament soon.

Maybe next time.
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alright nemesis fucking sucks i wont touch him again
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>>172952196
She certainly could use some new moves, or anything really. Always trying to setup/combo into spinning shit kick is tiring work and does so little damage.
>>
>>172952602

i tried to warn you
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>>172952539
do you dodge people at your locals too?
>>
>watching sakonoko play ibuki
There is no way in h-ll she's not top 5 if not top 3
>>
>>172952690
Nope, but they are actually worth my time there so that helps.
>>
>>172952790
post cfn
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>>172952762
you know sako is a really good player right
>>
>>172952854
RZR_INFILTRATION
>>
>>172952854
Post 15 seconds of you playing to prove you're worth my time.
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>>172952941
epic dodge my mentally ill friend
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>>172952901
Sako is a 50 years old man.
>>
>>172953070
are you trying to say he's not a really good player??
>>
>>172953169
He's a really good 50 years old man.
>>
how did nobody at SNK get sued for rock howard's theme in garou
>>
Anyone on EU wanna play some USF4?
Just some casual fun
>>
tfw cant find a match
dead fucking game
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>Injustice 2 will kick SFV in the balls and make it stumble to the ground
>Tekken 7 will drop kick it in the face and kill it for good 2 weeks later

Almost free from this hell
>>
>>172953351
>I stick to a game I hate just because it's new

autism
>>
its me or 16ers are much more dodge friendly than 09ers? like even defending highwaystar gets me a dodge

i blame the misuse of the robert_mate meme because i know for sure that theyre (gold/plat) rankedboars with 1000hours played imo its slowly killing the general
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>>172952762
i thought he dropped ibuki
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>>172953351
im going to play injustice 2 and tekken 7
>>
Ibuki literally has everything, piss easy aa, mixups (meterless), good jumpins, comeback vtrigger, reversal, gimmicks
>>
>>172953316
match for what you memer
>>
>>172953394
its you making webms from people sucking what is causing dodges

fuck you doug
>>
>>172953394
You think the shitstains actually play? They are streamboars.
>>
>>172953606
guilty gear relevator xrd
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>>172953494
he did in like june of last year

times have changed!
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>>172953728
>ranked in gg
lmao
go find a lobby and if you dont find one come bsck andill make one
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>>172953820
cool
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>>172953728
Use lobbies.
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>>172953316
are you NA I just got the game and found a few matches right away..nobody wanted to fight me though.

>get asked mid match if I'm new
>say yeah
>they instantly leave after beating me

feels bad man
>>
>>172953606
dont listen to that false flagger, im talkin bout sfv
>>
>>172951848
Umm, sweety? You do realize this is a safe for work board, right..?
>>
See me in Last Blade 1 or SS5SP
>>
>>172948490
Urien is acting as a conductor and the electrical current is traveling through his left elbow into kein.
What's not honest about that? Helen can control ice. Is she not honest too?
>>
is there a way to avoid activating hold and release attacks like birdie and ibuki have?
>>
>>172953351
>implying anyone but comic fags play injustice due to the "epic" marketing and drop it after a week
>>
>>172954943
l-let go of them before they fully charge. wutcha doing holding down a button after you pressed it?

you can also press another button and release the one you held down (for whatever reason) during the animation
>>
>>172955076
Only started a couple months ago and just picked up ibuki. My mechanics are still sloppy as fuck.
>>
>>172954943
you can release them midjump, middash or in the middle of other attacks if you want to get rid off them. just dont press them off cancellable moves.
>>
>>172943553
Teresa is a crybaby tho.
>>
>>172931865
GARFIELD!
>>
tphw dodged again
>>
>>172955804
I will never stop dodging you
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>>172955804
i wouldnt dodge you in mvc3 :)
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>>172955804
>tphw
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>>172955804
ggs brick
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>>172955804
I'd play you but you lag
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>>172955978
I would

>>172956065
>>
Is it normal to feel worse on a stick than a pad in the first week? It's really getting me down.
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>>172956540
learning new motor skills takes time, yeah.
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>>172956540
Yes. It's an adjustment period.
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>>172956540
Yes

Sticks don't make you magically better and take training all over again since it's a new input device.
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Will we ever see her again
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>>172956747
Season 3 most likely.
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>>172956571
>>172956591
>>172956601
Okay because it's fucking demoralising not being able to do simple challenge combos. It's annoying me to high hell that I can't chain a simple neutral to double quarter circle but I can pick up my pad and do it in one go. I just needed to know this is normal.
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name that game
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>>172956935
/fgg/
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>>172956813
>he fell for the stick meme
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>>172956935
hearthstone
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>>172956747
Hopefully not.

ps. why did you post that disgusting fan art of her?

>>172956935
any game
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>kof xiv is a bad looking game

what did they mean by this?
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>>172956813
Play metal slug or bullet hells. Get use to the movement before attempting the shit you can do on pad.
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>>172956813
just do motion drills on both sides, youll get used to it
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>>172956540
Yeah, thats pretty normal As everyone else said.
Once you get acclimated to it you'll never want to go back to a pad.
Tried using a controller just to be 'comfy' one night, and it was terrible.
Just stick with it, no pun intended. You'll get used to it eventually with practice and familiarization.

Start with the absolute very basics, movement, etc. Learn how your stick operates and performs, where you need to be moving and how much, etc.
Also don't over kill yourself. If you're getting frustrated take a little break or something.
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>>172956813
Just hit training mode and practice motions on both side. Then slowly work to doing combos.
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>tfw no one plays my favourite games
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>>172956935
Darkest Dungeon.
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>>172956935
Life
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>>172956935
Most games. Midir an Gael giving me troubles in DS3 atm.
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where are the t-hawk's, the hugo's, the rolento's, the elena's, the posion's, the adon's, the c.vipers, and the decapre's of sfv?

checkmate
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>>172957313
What on earth are you playing that there are no other players? Unlimited Codes? If you want a match that bad, find a discord
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my yang dawg
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Why does everyone on fightcade hate shotos?
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>>172957193
If their anything like me it will take longer than a week even, maybe. It took me forever just to get comfortable holding it, really have to relearn everything almost.

Things like muscle memory and learned repetition take a long time to develop and the mind only cements what you learned through sleep. Patience is key.

Pads always made me feel like a low IQ button smasher.
Stick makes me feel like a high IQ calculated killer.
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>>172957837
Wakeup dps and mashing kens, probably.
>>
What does Akiman think about the new design (be them redesigns or new character) in both SFIV and SFV?

I know he only worked on SF2 and SF3, as far as mainline SF games go.
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>>172957885
the only low iq button masher is you
peripherals dont matter dont let the market fool you
rise above
play on a keyboard
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>>172951728
Reportedly, fighting with the tiger was also pretty hard to implement in the game. But they had to do it because Harada specifically asked for it.
>>
Literally less than two months until Rucky's game
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>>172957636
thank god none of these characters are in V. dont have gouken in V to help me with thawk and hugo and the other characters i was so free to in 4.

id rather deal with rog and laura.
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>>172958085
Akiman is too busy designing Chun's costumes to pay attention to other characters.
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my sides hurt
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>>172958462
sfv claims another soul
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>>172958101
I never said it matters, chill out.
As I said, it only made ME feel that way, its an opinion.
Do we need to go over what an opinion is?
You seem pretty offended. Just trying to help out an anon an let them know everything will be alright.
You.
>insults
>hurrr
>muh keyboard
You're a bitch.
>>
>tfw sfv is dying every day

feels great man
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>>172958654
>when you're a shallow jaded loser who pretends to find happiness in other peoples favorite game dying

Grow up loser.
>>
Help me with /fgg/ terminology.


What is a "sniff" and why do people call Cammy "cummy"? Also what is kusoge?
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>>172958973
lurk more and it will become apparent
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>>172958882
The only losers are the ones who paid $30 for the goy pass.
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>>172958528
jokes on you i was only pretending
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>>172958882
jaded? lmao no

could you be any madder though ;)
>>
>people still reply to dank
>even after he fucked up and then gave away his trip
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>>172958973
sniff is a term used by pedos who want to smell an underaged anime girls vagina, asshole, feet, or all of them.

cummy is cammy but they want to fuck cammy so they call her cummy, because cum, get it?

kusoge means 'shit game'. An example of this is "Your favorite game is kusoge"
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>>172959198
it's not even the real dank
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>>172959246
which is what makes this even more perplexing
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>playing shitty beta
>pick ryu
>do mp
>still trades even though im not off the ground

hmmmmmmMMM
>>
st.mp>cr.mp xx special
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>>172959382
cr.lk, cr. lp, cr.mp xx special
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play usf4

#usf4revival
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>>172959440
melee did it first
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>>172943553

she was already going to be garbage the xrd is played.

just enjoy the art and porn.
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>>172951839

it's not an actual cab, dweeb. just a gimped pc version.
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>capcom says dps are fixed
>they arent

not surprised
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>>172959220
>pedos

i only want to sniff grown mature women sir
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>>172956747
Probably not, almost every tool she has another character is using right now and she wasn't the best character to begin with.
Also I hate her.
> C. Viper is introduced and I hate the fact that she's blatantly a copy SNK characters from her design to her moveset

> Meanwhile Juri is essentially Nega-Kim Kaphwan with an ultra that simulates HD/Max mode and she's my favorite new character of SFIV
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>>172959440
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>>172960109
ah yes, the "its a small girl but the lore says shes 200000 years old so that makes it okay" guy appears
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What fighting game is there to play while waiting for Tekken 7?
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>>172960417
no, i mean women like chun li or eliza
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>>172960523
ki
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>>172958104
Yep the tiger caused mad lag and loading times in vanilla for Kazumi mirrors.
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>>172960604
KI is boring, and all the characters are the same.
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>>172960523
ttt2
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>>172960523
The whole library of fighting games available from the start of the genre to now.
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>>172959220
>>172959220
>cummy is cammy
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>>172960954
terrible graphic coming from a german put your back into it hans
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tfw no nina gf
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>>172960954

imagine being german and only playing fighting games on your computer along with your truck and/or goat simulators.
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>>172959220
i dont fuck little girls bruh i just wanna sniff them
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>>172959220

cmon man they're supposed to learn the memes on their own.
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>>172957656
battle arena toshinden
>>
tfw no ewgf
>>
>>172961994
why did I laugh so much
>>
https://twitter.com/dekillsage/status/848953365690273793

uh oh
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>>172960954
>ironic fun
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>>172960567
*sniff*
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>>172959440
fuck sf4
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>>172962189
>tired of being called gay and furry
>twitter avatar
guess being a sperg stops you from noticing why people call you these things
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>>172953698
shouldn't have talked shit then bitch
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>>172960682
>ki
>all the characters are the same
At least try.
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post more pics of baiken or milia or jam or shut the fuck up
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>>172960954
>"ironic" fun
It's just plain shit and everyone except broski told you that before you gave capcom money.
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>It's a character that can fight Johnny
>Johnny player: This has to be a 6-4 or even 7-3 match up in their favor!
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>>172961994
>>172962125
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>>172963827
Nice

Play myyyyy gaaaame on June 2nd
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>tfw a fighting game character swears
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>>172963823
>open lobby
>4 johnny players join shortly after eachother
>they all end up queueing up on the same setup and playing circlejerk mirrormatches

Johnny players have a screw loose
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>>172964182
Why post an Alex main
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>>172964072
wud play
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Every Jack-O player I have met IRL have smelled like body odor and semen. Why is this?
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>>172962779
He's not the furry one.
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>>172964483
bet you believe in the easter bunny too
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>>172964608
That's just a weeb.

A furry has gay animals and shit.
A weeb has LE SMUG ANIME FEIC XD
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>>172964072
>>172964376
Get ready to flyyyyy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chJfHhK1CSM
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>>172964427
it's 'has' not 'have'. i bet you smell too
>>
I quit playing halfway through the match if its obvious the opponent is way better than me.
>>
So what exactly constitutes a shoto? Is it just DP+Fireball+movement special?
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>>172964976
were you that gief that rage quit on me a few games ago?
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>>172965101
no I don't quit out completely i just put my shit down an do something else till its over
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>>172964978
not this again
>>
>>172964215
They just love abs and have daddy issues like may
>>
ok, so I was listening to the clockwork game design podcast and I tried to imagine a new fighting game, since I've always wanted to make one.
So, following his advice I need a core mechanic and build on top.
I want to make this fighting game for a subculture of fighting games that is the combo makers, basically making a game to showcase combo skills.
That would be the core goal, but if we follow this route then I'll have to drop out all the other conventions.
I guess one way to do it could be that the players exchange offensive and defensive positions, per each match.
Basically in one match one player has the offensive positions and can make any combo he wants meanwhile his oponent can't attack but has a lot of defensive options.
Or make the game about Offensive state, neutral state and defensive state, and you have a certain move to try to change from neutral to offensive or defensive to neutral.
Any opinions on this?
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>>172964757
>on 4chan
>being this mad at anime
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my DPs keep whiffing against neutral jumpers when I play Akuma. WHY ARE DPs whiffing against neutral jumps?

It's the little things about SFV that make me so fucking mad.
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>>172957014
>Not moving on to TES legends
Hearthstone is an unsalvageable piece of shit at this point.
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anyone want to play something on fightcade?
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>>172964883
>they still didn't add any facial animation to her rageart
Harada is a lazy piece of shit.
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>>172965526
you are either mistiming it or akumas dp doesnt have that great of hitbox. necalli hp dp destroys NJ from pretty par out and ex is even better.
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>>172965526
i don't think DPs are the typical answer to neutral jumps
depending on distance of course
>>
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>>172965526
as in you're doing it when they're super close?
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>>172965526
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>>172966018
yes, when they're in my face
>>172965905
am I supposed to jump button? maybe v-skill kick?
>>
grinding ranked against button mashers in SF5 CFN beta
makes me feel like im actually good at these kinds of games
jesus how many ryus
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>>172966165
am I supposed to jump button? maybe v-skill kick?

what character are you playing?
neutral jump's are typically quite a safe option by your opponent. they're used to punish something you do, they're not used to advance an attack. the downside is that the opponent gets a little bit of space if he's mindful, not that he can outright punish it if the neutral jump wasnt terribly misplaced
>>
has anyone experienced not being able to use the dpad on an xbox one controller when playing sfv?
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>>172966401
I'm Akuma and I was playing against a Ryu.

Ryu didn't have problem DPing me when I neutral jumped him.

I tried the the light version (less distance traveled and the ex version and he punished me for both. The dude was a damn pogostick so I thought I could DP him.
>>
>>172966165
You're timing it wrong most likely, if they're at the apex the hitbox will have moved forward long enough that they're now behind it. But as SFV doesn't have startup invincibility the timing is quite narrow between whiffing the dp and getting kicked in the head. try doing other versions of the dp to see if they whiff too. mp post patch is probably the answer
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>>172966396
I feel like everyone cheats and macros on PC.
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>>172966396
>barely know anything about SF5
>do basic footsies and grab
>win 10 matches in a row
>>
anyone wanna play melee?
>>
>>172966790
w-well im not sure what to tell you, you have to know the horizontal range of your DP
maybe make a webm of the situation, the match should still be in your profile
>>
if you see a bronze rashid its probably me since the rest of players only use ryu/ken
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>>172966550
Badly or very old games/engines only read the analogue. I only really know that from older rpgmaker games and some doujin games.
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>>172966935
you can't really cheat. macros just make you worse and aren't pc exclusive.

if you have the mentality that others are cheating you're holding yourself back.
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>>172967090
Do your best little bronzie!
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>>172967161
its started to work now for some reason
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>>172966836
>>172967014

thanks for you (you)s. I'm just gonna play another game lol
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>>172967090
anti air

dude just fucking anti air

you don't even have to press a ground button to get out of fucking bronze
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>>172967513
>ironic fun
>>
Charge characters are high IQ
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>>172967482
that's the spirit. remember that shin hisakos dp whiffs too, but it's got actual invincibility so you can just do it when they're right next to you.
>>
what old KoF has the funniest infinites
>>
>take break from fighting games
>do alright and feel like my old self in first games
>when people adapt to me i completely forgot how to adapt back

FUG :-D
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>>172967584
there's none of it in SFV i'll tell you that
>>
so does anyone get framedrops when doing giefs supers from the player two side in kanzuki beach

i think it's a bug
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>ironic fun
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>>172967882

Could someone try this out in pc sfv to see if it's just my pc or sfv?

To reiterate the framedrop during the closeup only happens from the player two side when doing Gief's super, on the player one side there are no frame drops.
>>
>strifehomo
>>
>>172967697
I think ironic fun is the dumbest thing you said here altoids.
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>>172968482
I just tried on PC and theres no lag
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>>172968692
i don't even have a fucking reply if this is a serious post
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>ironic fun
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>>172968718
Weird, there must be something about connecting Gief's super from the player 2 side on the Kanzuki beach stage that causes framedrop during the closeup for my pc.
>>
How the fuck do you people play on D-pads

Shit hurts my fingers and I cant even do Sonic booms without moving my thumb a mile
>>
>>172968883
Honestly explain what you mean by ironic fun.
>>
>>172969038
not every single thing in every game causes the same amount of lag / needs the same amount of processing power

your PC is probably right on the edge of being able to handle the terribly programmed SF5 and something about that situation makes it sperg the fuck out
>>
Sucks that I cant have ironic fun with SF5, only real fun
>>
>>172969239
The stresstest will run the most straining shit o that won't happen ever. In good games that is not sfv lmaoooooo
>>
>>172969189
>>172968883
>>
>>172969239
I know, it's just really weird and specific. It works fine on every other stage from both the player one and player two side.

I think it's related to how the games programming works in that specific instance. Oh well.
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>>172969172
I don't. I always played with the joystick until recently, when I got my first stick.
Only ever used the d-pad for dashing.
>>
stop bullying dietbroski
>>
>>172969683
So you don't have an explanation. Alright.
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>>172969971
>an explanation for 'ironic fun'

you're fucking dumb
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anyone sfv eu?
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>>172969683
>ironic broski
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>>172970291
no but ill play 4
>>
anyone wanna play melee?/
>>
so can you jab ibuki out of her dash on reaction?
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>>172970674
depends on your reactions now, doesnt it
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>>172970510
Fightcade?
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>>172970674
yes, it's always minus on hit or block
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>>172970510
<platform games> is way over there
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>>172970510
no but ill play sf 4
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>>172970776
dolphin
>>
>>172970754
>>172970802
i just want to know if i should go in training mode and practice it like i did the first time i got memed by a dhalsim teleporting, thanks.
>>
>>172970802
that doesnt mean you can jab it on reaction
surely you can figure this one out
>>
>>172970510
>>>/RonaldMcdonaldsplaypenforKids/
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>>172971085
>can't react to 23/26f
>>
>>172971113
>kids play pen
>30 year old game
>>
>>172971043
I'm in the melee lobby but I don't see you
>>
>>172935991
yep my PC fag friends going to buy a ps4 too, eu
>>
>>172971085
People also get hit by Ken run cancels all day. Input lag idk
>>
https://twitter.com/MrSpab/status/848992422805766144

WE SF4 NOW
>>
>>172971210
Spyro is 19 years old aswell doesnt mean it isnt for kids
>>
SF5 PATCH WHEN
>>
I hope SF6 is a Smash ripoff.
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>>172971282
so you don't even get a mixup off of it? Just meaty?
>>
>>172971485
End of the month.
>>
>>172971163
>reacting to 23f is the same under all circumstances
>reaction to 23f is the same when you're only reaction to yes/no
>reaction to 23f is the same when you react to things you're not expecting

high schooler go to bed
>>
>>172971717

you get a mixup off it, just not the automatic unseeable overhead one
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>>172971717
mixups are not allowed
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>>172971282
>all caps

did he think people might not read his tweet otherwise?
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>>172971282
what am i looking for

it just looks like a regular combo to me
>>
How do I react to instant overheads?
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>>172972015
>>172972015
>>172972015
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>>172971995
be already blocking
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>>172971783
can you speak english
>>
>>172972052
who cares
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>>172971282
i can see this not getting patched as it just combo's and the mixup after it is worse than the usual unseeable one
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>>172970208
I actually am. Can someone explain how one has fun 'ironically'?
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>>172972052
>what does those
PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST
>>
I find myself mashing when trying to do the trials in sfv, especially after failing a hard and long combo at the and getting angry. Same thing in matches.
When will the scrubness leave my body?

Also could someonebtell me what my options are when im cornered as fuck against a necali or ken? Bor in general how to get out of corner.
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>>172975826
Since when are there long combos in SFV?
>>
>>172975826
lets work on a specific combo
what are you havin trouble with
>>
>>172976134
Urien last few trials, those are long for me. It took me ages to get down rashid guile and gief. I only got to 7 on vega and bison. I think i spent like 6 hours on vega trial 2, fuck that cr lp st lp cancel into quarter circle, just fuck it. Wanted to play vega but that fucking cancel made me hate him.
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>>172976361
I think most frustrating is vega fast jab cancels, I just cant press quarter circle fast enough on pad unless i go berserk. Also i because im slow with the dpad i press kick or punch too early for it to come out. My thumb just has to do it too fast, if i slide my thumb its not precise and downwards or down back gets left out. If i keep my thumb on the dpad and roll it its too slow
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>>172976473
well firstly that cancel is not hard
but more importantly it's not super important/common for playing vega so that's good for you if you can do everything else
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>>172977125
I think its only hard cause i have big stubby thumbs
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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