Dota 2 General - /d2g/

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1st for frog1

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guys what is the equivalent of the chat wheel in irl?

first for fifth

>Naga KOTL

see ya tmr

>letting arteezy get naga siren

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>>172905849
you fucked up

>>172905864
y-you too

>Naga
Definitely not /ourguys/

RTZ is playing Yung Lean right now, guaranteed

>>172905864
>How about that weather?

EG draft is boring shit

lmao this EG draft is fuckin disgusting

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>Unishaker
Reminder.

outdrafted again
rip newbee

I feel like Western teams traded with Chink teams, they are now the boring ricers who play boring dota while chink teams try to cheese and run weird drafts

whens tobi

FUCK NAGA

i hope frog just deletes her from the competitive meta

and yes im an american cheering for eg, i just really really fucking hate watching naga games.

>>172906032
Move the Rosh pit back!

honestly, i remember a couple years ago when naga carry first blew up in the pro scene and i absolutely hated every naga game.

Now for some reason seeing Naga picks now makes me as excited as I was back when I first started watching dota, theres just something about that hero now that grew on me <3

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>not picking fun heroes after being up by one game
Definitely a fun team desu baka.

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>EG are going to get away with another final
Thanks VP ddosers

>>172906032
>that massive fucking eyesore of a hud
Thank gaben.

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>nyx never
He only gets banned.

>>172906032
ready for the DUNK

IN FROM UNIVERSE

IT'S A DISASTAH

CDEC

>>172906052
you obviously didnt watch igv vs vgj last night

it was classic chink v chink dota, it was awful

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nth for THICC Legion Booty

>>172906052
behold the power of talents. why run at people when you can do what my main man artosis says and get more ahead.

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Actually I think I realized why naga grew on me

>EG.Arteezy on the naga siren
>*Flashbacks to the good ol days of Arteezy spamming naga on his stream and playing yung lean*

;_;

>>172906187
WIPED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH

>>172906052
The game is less mechanically rewarding now. they want the league audience when LoL busts

>>172906318
how is it less mechanically rewarding? Elaborate?

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>>172906157
>Millions of dollars invested into buying custom huds
>trashed and flushed down the toilet
>no refunds
>no reponse or talk about it at all from valve

>>172906283

>practicing for my finals
>rtz stream on the background

I still associate Fourier's calc analysis with yung lean and last hit sounds.

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>it's a Lina vs CM episode

>>172906409
are you serious? they've added so many QoL improvements over the last year

>>172906426
Valve updated the custom huds to fit the new UI, which was nice of them.

who are decent chink players?

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>>172906606
ICEICEICE
AGRESSIF
sccc
paparazi
chuan
(ie players with personality)

everyone else not apply

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>>172906238
my nigga

zai is level 2 7.5 minutes in

>>172906542
Quality of life improvements correlates with the game being less mechanically rewarding? How so?

I haven't played in 6 months so that's why I'm asking.

>>172906606
every chinese team has one godly player. they just arent allowed to leave freely and make a super team and destroy the west because of the owners greed. thus they have to play with baddies or they dont make any money

>>172906706
>Quality of life improvements correlates with the game being less mechanically rewarding? How so?
It doesn't. he's talking out of his ass.

he implies that clunky design equals less mechanical gameplay

Isn't godz supposed to be a chink wanker?

He's sucking off EG so hard

>>172906606
sccc
paparazi
fy
fenrir

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Newbee only performs up to expectations in that I always expect them not to perform up to expectations

>>172906706
tps are free and rotations are piss easy now (99% of the time you dont need to think about your tps just tp)

shrines (lul) offlane takes no skill and you can make endless mistakes

status counter

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>>172906814
Reminder.

>>172906814
Abaddon pick is retarded in this chain stun meta anon

>giving artucci naga this much farm
bye bye chindog!

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>>172906409

Off the top of my head:

Free map fountains > less mana/hp management
No mana blink
Stun timer
Scan for smokes
Improved waveclear
Powercreeped heroes
More passive gold
Less focus on farming mechanics
Iron Talon
Better and more attainable defensive items (from raindrop to glimmer cape)
Mobility comes cheap.
Shorter cooldowns.
Pity runes.

I'm sure I can go deeper on this and make an analysis of how these changes negatively (in my opinion anyway) impact the game but it probably will be ignored or dismissed through ad hominem.

>>172906690
wtf happened to chuan, did he get sent to the gulag?

>>172906801
you're fucking stupid, i bet you started playing this game a year ago or some shit. if you think this game didn't get mechanically easier you should go back to smite kid

>>172906978
>no mana blink
stopped reading

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>>172907048
what's sup

>>172907072

I know right, it feels so good to have 1200 unit mobility every 12 secs without no downsides! Doesn't mean it's good for the game

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>arteezy moving in and out of range for sleep so that ember takes illuminate damage, slept to avoid him remnanting out, then awoken for lina to stun

holy fuck that was crazy

>>172906934
tps are more costly with the huge cooldown, nice 2k analysis though

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>too much nerf
>raindrop killed lina
>squishy mid

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>giving Sumail Lina

wrong talents sumaail

>>172906978
the jungle stack and ward area notifications are also begging for the league audience

>>172906982
He got sent to a literal meme team according to Newbee

>>172907258

Oh yeah I'm sure I left a lot outside, like tower range markers and shit.

is there any reason Lina not going for -30s respawn time?

>>172907181
certain heroes like WK would be eternally shit if it wasn't for this 3 year old change my friend

>>172907142
>4:3 resolution in 2011
fucking thirdies

>>172907351
He's still shit because they added a bunch of other items that make him garbage

U N I V E R S E
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UNI GOD SHAKER

>another rad abaddon
>recipe first
haha, you will never get it

>>172907323
The game's always had tower range markers, though they were more subtle. There were piles of bones or rubble at the edge of their attack range.

>>172906978
>Powercreeped heroes
go play LoL then? Pretty obvious Dota's too hard for you

https://twitter.com/MarsMedia/status/848041031878590464


SLACKS

>>172907351

WK was picked before and there are other ways to balance an item/hero besides going from 50 to 0 in a single swing.

Maybe you just hate mana management and would be OK with forcestaff also costing 0 mana.

WHY DOES ABBADON GO RADIANCE
GO FUCKING GUARDIAN GREAVES
PURGE OFF CORROSIVE HAZE AND MANA LEAK YOU FUCKING TARD

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>monkey king

I don't even mind some of the changes but:
>Shrines
>Scan
>Camp spawn boxes
>Ward preview
I have a problem with

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UNISHAKER
N
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SHAKER
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Oh wow that fucking monkey

>>172906952
golem get ye gone

>monkey kong

elmao, how do dotards defend this

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>LMAO CAN'T CATCH ME OOOOO OOOO AAAA AAAA

>>172907584
Timbersaw.

>>172907575
i just dislike shrine and the camp spawn box, no reason that should be there.

monkey king is retarded

>>172907494

Amazing argument my friend, truly the level of discussion expected from a russian kid.

Dota is TOO EASY actually. It's complexity lies entirely(!) on teamfights and teamwork, this is NOT the multi-dimensional game it used to be.

>mk
>balanced
uhm

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>>172907534
Force staff can be used on allies, enemies, and while taking damage. Blink can't, though its personal mobility is obviously better.

>>172907534
>removing the mana cost on 1 item is bad
Having to manage mana on any str hero with blink was a obnoxious and added nothing to the game.

>>172907534
f

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>eg picks mk
lmao so good noob chinks
>chinks picks mk
nerf so op

Watching RTZ naga after the n0lans shitshow is truly appealing to the eyes.

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>balance discussions during esports

>>172907575
>having a problem with camp spawn box and ward preview
autism

>>172907575
There are too many shrines, rest is okay, the scan could go on a longer cooldown and the ward shouldn't get a preview, let people discover ward places for themselves

>>172907534
>implying obnoxious gameplay is good because it pleases your misguided autism

>>172907893
fuck me I miss leshrac.

>>172907852
i bitch about mk regardless m8, no bias

>>172907896
Before you had to do your homework on these things and it was fun discovering new ways to ward.

>>172906052

Look at this draft by EG. They don't give a shit if they're behind. It's literally just a high ground rat dota. ES/NAGA/KOTL.

fucking zzzz...valve fix high ground quit making the game comeback based.

I don't see pro dota being a thing for much longer if the meta remains like this.

>>172907908
>>172907808


What's the end line for what's obnoxious or not? There are certain rules for every game and I feel like unlimited mobility shouldn't be one of them.

Maybe what you call obnoxious is just hard for you.

>>172908064
should also remove health bars

>>172907896
i'm cool with camp spawn boxes but ward preview makes pro ward wars less exciting.

Every autistic support player gets a hard-on for ward wars.

>>172908121
Elaborate on this anon I'm interested.

MK in CM was a mistake
What the fuck was Valve thinking?

they need to do something about the jugg attack sound

it is fucking obnoxious to listen to

what can CM actually do in this meta except global mana regen

>>172908173
Should remove tooltips. It was fun discovering what spells and items did.

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>>172906052
>Weird cheese drafts
>Juggernaut again
>MK again
>Fucking Ember Spirit again
>Offlane Abby stolen from NA
>Unique

>>172908173
>>172908310
nice fallacies, glad to see you have no arguments because you only watch the game not play it

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>>172908121
>he hasn't seen the state of LoL and smite esports in their prime

You don't know how good we have it m8, even during the dark days of 6.83 and 6.84

>be at your ancients 20 seconds before an odd minute
>don't finish your ancients by the minute
>don't stack your ancients by the minute

Aren't these professional teams?

>>172908123
>unlimited mobility
Except it gets canceled for 3 seconds by all forms of hero damage and has a 12 second cooldown.

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mfw there are three arcanas in the eg/nb game

This game is ass, this shouldn't be allowed in an "esport".

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>>172908454
>tfw you only notice 1

agent 3154 strikes again

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>>172907234
>>172907246
>lina
>ever being good

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>trying to kill Abaddon

>borrowed time is almost up right?
>uhh yeah I think maybe

I miss Singsing's naga

rtz needs more farm

why nobody picks clockwork anymore

>>172908526
its only good when she hits 25

lol even my 4k pubs don't heal abaddon like that wtf

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Why is Dota so homo?

>attacking ult abba

Uhh, amerikeks?

>RTZ is the main carry
>EG lose

Really makes you think

>>172908602
girls are bad at video games, among many other things

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umm Linafags?

>>172908602
because you're here

>>172908635

>lina goes non-bloodstone and respawn timer build

really makes your nigs noggin

>>172908552
PPEEEEEEEEEDDDUUUURRRRRRR

>>172908504
When Juggernaut is a meta hero, dota will be in the most boring state of all time. It's a rule of thumb.

>abaddon doing manta octa radi

>EG fags saying abaddon is broken and can't be counterdrafted

lel

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why dont i see TA picked as much

>>172908635

sumail went with the 80 damage LSA instead of timer and is getting punished because he's a cocky scrub

>>172908771
>no vlads
Why do pros REFUSE to build the best item possible on Abaddon?

OK. Let's go to game 3.

how to meme a hero into being picked by pros
>buy radiance
>buy manta
>????
>tier 1 pick

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>>172908701
what u wan ?

>>172908814

loa is broken though.

>>172908814
Abbadon is easy. Juggernaut is the problem. Omnislash has always been a retarded ultimate.

It's over, chinks won

>Using Laguna Blade on a goddamn CM
What the fuck was Sumail thinking?

>>172908852
Vlads is not good if you're not pubbing which is more of a babysitter aura

>>172908926
It means he's hungry for a kill, to be that desperate

>>172908563
>bad against lifestealer, rubick a good counter is in the meta, can't deal surprise pick naga/alch and can't scale to lategame
also there's so much better offlaners in this patch

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>>172908909
nice lvl 10 talent slut

>>172908852
>not crest lotus

Is Puck male or female?

>>172908841
>>172908715
my point is arteezy is bad and sumail should have taken the naga or they just shouldnt have drafted this stuff that arteezy cant play

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>>172908852
>what do you build on abbadon?

Here you go, dudenstein, or future reference take this advice and you'll get the idea of how to build a position 2 CARRY Abaddon:

Start off with a ring of protection, two branches, some tangoes and a mana potion.

Your CARRY Abaddon is going to be a position 2 or even 3. You're never going to be a position 1, dude. Keep that in mind.

Build that basi ring next, get that fuckin' magic wand and some phase boots. Take that basi ring and turn it into a Vlads, and rush a fuckin' S&Y.

After this it depends how the game goes,you can just go a fuckin' basher and run to people and bash their fucking face if you're ballin' outta control and expect to finish early, or you can go Skadi into a AC.

If this goes really late, finish that fuckin' abyssal and after your skadi / heart + AC you can go MKB for the damage.

Max the shield first, 2 points into the passive, max the heal, finish the passive. Always max the ultimate whenever the chance.

If your team is fuckin' kuso ass shit, as they usually are, sometimes it's actually naice to build a aghanism instead of a skadi or heart and go for a AC after, because with the aghanism you can actually stop those shitters from dying.

>>172908926

The plan was to get a kill and get out

>>172908964
rubick is a good counter in any meta in any patch, that's not an argument

>>172909057
it

>>172909057

nonbinary agender

>It's a Naga episode

zzz

>>172909069

rtz is doing fine with the situation he's being dealt, he isn't the reason they healed the abbadon to full and lost that fight that teamwiped them

>>172909057

>binary genders on a fantasy creature

it's 2017 gramps

>>172909084
just say "agender", when you add "nonbinary" it makes you sound like a tumblr sjw

>universe not going carryshaker
>instead regular ol 5man shaker

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>sumail

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>>172909057
girl (male)

>>172909238

that was intentional

Octarine Core was a mistake. Why the fuck was CDR added to DOTA

>>172909057
w-why are you assuming *insert pronoun* gender?

>>172909361
So supports can't be walking lumps of gold only to die every 20 seconds.

>>172909332
you never know these days, poe's law etc

>>172909361

Because shorter cooldowns and longer attack ranes are fun anon! Don't you like it? ARE YOU NOT ENENRNETARINDE?

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>>172908908
guess the hero

this is more boring than LOL

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>pick lina
>lose
UHM, BURGERS??

>>172909361

increase viability of int heroes in the lategame

>>172909361
t.assblasted 2k shitter
honestly all it needs is a cost increase and it would be perfect.

>Naga on a horse
>Even more unkillable than vanilla naga

>adding cdr to make supports and mages useful

>>172909483
Ogre

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How much money do you guys think Newbee has gotten from killing Naga illusions?

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>linkens blocks laguna
WOOOOOO YEAHHH WOOO
>he still dies
*dead silence*

>basher on mk

its over

>>172909548
slark

>>172909626
I noticed that too, funny as hell

>>172909535
The item has been nothing but nerfed since its inception. It's a fucking retarded addition to the game.

>>172909636

just don't teamfight

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>>172909570
tree fiddy

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HAHAHAHA

BEST PART ABOUT CHINK CROWD IS HOW FUCKING RETARDED THEY ARE

>SCREAM ON TOP OF THEIR LUNGS BECAUSE OF LINKENS POP

>IMMEDIATE SILENCE WHEN THEY REALIZE IT DOESN'T MEAN SHIT AND EMBER STILL DIES.

NEVER FAILS TO ENTERTAIN LMFAO WE SHOULD HOST ALL OUR TOURNIES IN CHINA

anyone wanna tell me why there are 2 abaddons on dire

>>172909510
>Pick Lina
>Don't get the retardedly overpowered respawn talent
>Lose
Uhm, Pakis?

>Arteezy

LMAO

lmao

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>RTZ

God damn I love seeing Arteezy exposed

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FUCKING MORON LMAO

>rtz throws his life away for his support

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>artour "arteezy" babaev

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What Midas nerf will Icefraud implement next?

That's on slardar though

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>rtz

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>Retardzy

OPУ HAХУЙ

>dodged echoslam
jesus christ I'm gonna lose it if EG gets defeated in this tournament

on the second thought its pretty funny to see an abaddon win

i honestly like eg except arteezy and his retarded fans, seeing him lose makes me smile

>Zai just standing there on slardar unable to comprehend what he's seeing

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Chinks sure are animated all of a sudden

hoenstly why didn't zai stun?

if rtz died the rax were gone, and it didn't matter if he was alive, so he had little to lose by going for a stun

>>172910007

That's sad .

>entrust the game to arteezy not playing like shit
>lose

hmmmmm

>>172909874
t. Arteezy

>Naga dies
>doesn't bb
That's a difficult call to make, but I think that's the right choice

why the fuck naga got caught there? I cant get it.

>pick naga
>lose
GOOD.

>>172910007
same, almost as much as i like seeing bulldong fans get shut down

Why would you trade 2 rax and t3s for buyback gold?

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>>172910007
I really like EG

but RTZ is like this manslut who goes to popular teams to destroy them

someone post that flowchart of him again

it is funny to see eg fuck up but I hope they win, much better than china
willing to bet that if the winners are a western team they'll get boo'd

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haha why does crit have a moon shard
i know naga gave him it but why

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PEEEDDDURRR

I HAVE 4K HP

I DO GOOD?

>reminder notail has never placed higher than 8th at TI

>>172910190

pedur would have jumpepd in with slardar to save rtz

we need an rtz micro cam going

>>172910112
Because a Naga bb is risky.
She could use song, but so what? She sucks lategame in teamfights.

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How did we go from this...

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>teamwipe

This is why you should have never gotten rid of your hontrash on team.

Hey guys I have an idea
A hero who can navigate the entire map with a blink at level one
He has day vision that lets him snipe out anything coming for him
It has a minimal cooldown so there's a tiny counter to it if you hit him, but if he just disappears into a treeline for two seconds he always escapes
Sounds like a godlike ability to scout right? Here's the kicker. We add a second blink to it and give it crowd control.
Guaranteed balance.

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WHO /STRAYA/ HERE

LMAO

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>>172910274
To this

>>172910112

Gold isn't the problem, it's putting bb on cooldown for what may very well be a lost tax anyway.

>>172910164

I doubt they'd get boo'd, silence is more likely.

so eg fans are clapping to this right? or are they BIASED?

wait, how did EG not 2-0 newbee? are they tilting?

>no hard carry

MCDONALDS IN FLAMES

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Me Lina

Me Mid

>Pick MK
>Win
Really makes you think

>>172910173
This second game has only been to give them hope.

First game drow. Second game Naga. Third game alchemist. They're just using newbee to test meme strats.

>40k+ networth jugg

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>>172910308
ayyy m8

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>>172910274
To this

>>172910364
yeah, we'll put that muslim dog in the coffin.

badalchemist lost to badnaga

lmao

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>>172910274
to this

>>172910260
>draft no damage
>lose game
WOW

>>172910007
I'm convinced Arteezy fans ruin 70% of my games thinking they can carry but they can't and then they do the "gg end" or "i'm done" spiel

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>>172910308
regrettably

>>172907734

t. delusional retard who refuses to acknowledge he just sucks and cant adapt to a changing meta

I mean it's not like we've seen multiple games in this very tourney won through farm and splitpush

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what pro would you smoke with? mine would be pic related

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>this choke
>this rtz action
>the muncipality of EG

>>172910305
fuck off

>>172910360

sumail is so tilted

he never picks the broken retarded death timer on lina because "HURR IM SO GOOD I WILL NEVER DIE, IM GONNA GO PHASE+EULS+LENS (NO HP/STATS LUL) AND IM NOT GONNA DIE AT ALL CUZ IM SO GOOD"

he got his shit pushed in

bring back peter, fuck this slav

do we blame the boy or do we blame the draft

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Lina BTFO!

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>>172910274
To this

>>172910378
what the fuck is that 3pac?

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>>172910353
>chink crowd in chink touney inside chink land
>EG fans clapping where?

>>172910305

Wow that sounds kinda op, it would certainly never get in the game if you added a long range scaling stun and an AoE ultimate that applies item modifiers.

Get out of here!

>>172910441
you should be 70% of his fans are pinoys and peruvians

>>172910305
We can balance him by just making him a melee hero

>>172910353
sup cultural marxist, you ready for the helicopter ride?

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>>172910305
>>172910595
>>172910546
>samefagging this hard

>>172910490
cute

>winning on naga
>ever
what was rtz thinking?

>>172910595
but we would probably give him 350 range to make it fair

>>172910432
In a game against Abaddon, no less.
EG's draft was shit.

>>172910305
Sounds like a support hero, which, as you know, CANNOT be OP

>>172910587
I can confirm a lot of them are shitter aussies as well
Source: aussies have no mic control and just sperg all the time on mic

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This match proves that EG cannot into maths.

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>>172910490
this is now a CM thread

>>172910640

rtz doesn't draft, crit does

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>can't 2-0 Newbee
>thinks EG has a chance against OG

okay, the team with better earthshaker won

>>172910305
>tree dance goes on cooldown if you take damage in trees, but can still use spring or walk down
>boundless strike stun duration to .5, .75, 1, 1.25
Fixed.

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>>172910634
>Being this wrong

>>172910634

>there's no way people think MK is imbalanced!

You're dumb.

>>172910007
I like EG except for Sumail

Why doesnt RTZ get to play the wolf anymore

>>172910726
>posting from different browsers

>>172910745

Same except for Cr1t- too

>>172910694
heh. nice
but dont you tell your captain what carry you wanna use? or you adjust on what your capt thinks on what carry you'll win the game

>>172910450
>>172910450
zai for sure

>>172910780
Because you can't rat when there are shrines and a 4th position monkey King can 3 shot you out of nowhere.

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The only EG team that mattered.

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Explain this

>>172910450
paparazzi cuz then i can rape his qt little butt

Cap has a great haircut

>>172910457
its called high risk / reward, thats the reason he does it. Better when you're not on the backfoot though.

when does our boy paparazi play

What kind of dogshit tournament has its grand finals on a Tuesday?

>>172910884

>no mason

nope.jpg

>>172910832

Pretty sure your captain knows about your hero pool and how your strenghts adapt to the current game plan.

>>172910890
OSfrog

>>172910927
what kind of cuck works on weekdays?

>>172910943
fuck off already.

>>172910927
coming Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday are holidays in china.

>>172911000
The type of cuck that needs to be financially responsible to the bull. But for real tho why the fuck is the schedule so fucked?

>>172910884
>only the worst two members of the ti5 winning lineup are still in EG
lol

Haven't played dota since the ogdota and closed beta dota 2 and been playing lol since. You guys think I can get back into the game?

when is machine or james gonna replace the old man

EG is retarded, dont know why they tried to force the issue, should have just played defensive and ratted, Newbee would have thrown eventually.

Im guessing they just got bored and wanted to get to game 3 which they felt more confident about. But keep fucking around and you will get punished at the worst time

>>172911000
"wagecucks"

>>172911001

mason btfo you in a pub or something? Why do you hate on based mason?

>>172911097
yeah. its for babies now.

>>172910745
>tfw I like all of EG individually, but don't like them as a team

they just don't have an identity at all, honestly I think they should just go all in on "postionless doto" be the golden state warriors of dota 2. Let Arteezy go mid, zai go offlane, depending on the draft, just to throw the other team off.

I feel bad for sumail tb h, he deserves a top tier carry

>>172911071
Ah. At least there's some justification.

>>172911097
they fucked up the map, but other than that, yes
i've had some long lol periods too

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>>172911001

>>172911136
They are going to pick alchemist in game 3 mark my words. And newbee is going to win.

>>172910449

your agressiveness is only matched by your low intelligence my friend, maybe those two go hand by hand. Stay 2k.

>remove beard
>lose
HA

GEE LOOK WHO GOT FIRST PICKED

>MK
gg chinks won

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>>172910884
S A D B
O Y S
SEE ME IN THE CLUB WITH IT TATTED ON MY CHEST

>MK on EG

So do you think that EG can beat iG.V?

>>172911082
i swear shitverse is the most overrated player in the world

trash offlaner who only knows how to play one style, and he's not even the best at that

his time on secret showed how god-awful he really is. no clue how to play without farm priority.

<3 DOTA 2 <3

>MK

lol gg eg ez

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What a cutie

>eg get the hot monkay dicc
>will also pick alch
>will win

>>172911227
Amazing argument my friend, truly the level of discussion expected from a russian kid.

>>172911356
why were they so sad there

Is DOTA 2 just literally about who gets to pick MK first now?

zai enigma?

>>172911476

They knew that Universe and RTZ were going to betray them in the future.

>>172911356

>the team sponsored by monster wins the monster tournament

hmmmmm

>>172911512
Yup

okay faggots, if MK is so OP why is he in CM and why isn't he first ban?

>>172911476
lean withdrawal

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>EG picks enigma
>universe time
YES
if EG loses this match then I don't know what either. its his iconic hero.

is universe indian or arab?

>>172911476
10 thousand dollar prize pool probably didn't even cover their travel expenses and sumails lube allowance.

>abby+alch
does this mean no rad on abbadon?

>>172911687
maybe abba can get it and alch can farm fighting items & aghs

how the FUCK did newbee win game 2

do you even need to watch this? eg wins they have mk

>io
>enigma
>monkey king
EG WINS

>>172911656
Tournament pays for all travel expenses+lodging

>>172911751
lolteezy

>>172911751
Monkey king

>>172911630
because these teams are bad and don't ban him when they don't have first pick

kk

>>172911751

mk > naga

>RTC morph
> Zai Wisp

Newbee's fucked

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>2010+8-1
>venge still isn't played as carry in pro games
ICEFROG FIX THIS