/ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station

first for digitalis did nothing wrong

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>tfw not enough round end parties

I was going to make a "Report and Ignore shitposting" joke but I'm pretty sure the Janis would nuke the post and I'm not about that life.

Reminder to kill all Vox.

>>172900685
Second for just merge it bro, it's already over by the time the goyims find out then close everything they do to undo or even talk about it. :^)

KILL CLUSTER

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>>172900850

Which waifu is best for being an ex-girlfriend who is now your best friend since you ended it on good terms, but she falls for you again and wants you back?

>>172901176
Good luck, he's hardly associated with the server these days. I'm pretty sure he knows he can just be a fall guy for decisions the collaborators make that are controversial without caring.

>>172901269
There's no girl, spess or not, that is like that

Chose your ocracy

Truest Democracy
>Anyone can vote using a third party site, so it's totally anonymous and no ckeys logged so no one can see how you voted
>People could VPN to vote multiple times
>Other servers could raid us to rig our votes
>Refugees have different opinions than you
Democracy
>Vote on server
>Since we know ckeys, we can throw out votes obviously from other servers
>Refugees have different opinions than you
Oldfagocracy
>Only let people with BYOND accounts 2011 and earlier vote
>This means Sarca can vote but not you
Emojiocracy
>Anyone who gets on the Github can vote
>People who care the most about an issue will vote on it
>Tiny cross-section of server ends up voting
Metaclubocracy
>Only let people in the Discord vote
>Your vote will be used against you in social hierarchy
>Sawbones gets a vote and you probably don't
Contributorocracy
>Coders and admins get to vote
>You don't get to vote
>Coders and admins clearly have a theoretical vested interest in making the server best they can since they have a sunk sum of time in the server vs others
>Coders and admins don't play the game
Cultureocracy
>People who agree with me are allowed to vote
>Ensures that only people who truly understand /vg/ culture get to participate
>Refugees can't vote because they disagree with me
>Shitters can't vote because they disagree with me
>You don't like my opinions and therefore can't vote
Randomocracy
>All issues decided by pure RNG
>Truly fair
>Quality is truly random in the truest sense of the word
>"It doesn't matter what the result is, it matters who checks what the result is." t. Stalin
Threadocracy
>All issues decided by who shitposts the most
>Generates a lot of revenue for Hiro because of signpost clicking
>4chan pass and metaclub have advantage
>Vulnerable to raiding and refugees

>>172901176
Cluster is just a distraction, he's in retirement. The true enemy is probe.

>>172901535
Probe is easy to deal with. Just punk him off a few times until he learns.

>>172901458
Pretty good

>>172901458
Vote with hidden ckeys that have played on the server for over a month. No one can see who voted for what.

>Truest Democracy
Open to manipulation
>Democracy
Open to manipulation, bullying
>Oldfagocracy
No
>Emojiocracy
See Democracy, open democracy
>Metaclubocracy
See Democracy, open democracy
>Contributorocracy
Everyone should get a say
>Cultureocracy
Based and white
>Randomocracy
Based and white
>Threadocracy
Based and white

t. oldfag admin

>>172901458
>Cultureocracy
>>People who agree with me are allowed to vote
>>Ensures that only people who truly understand /vg/ culture get to participate
that entirely hinges on who the fuck are you

Oldfagocracy
>Only let people with BYOND accounts 2011 and earlier vote
>This means Sarca can vote but not you
fuck that.
I've been here since 2015, but I probably logged more hours in 2016 than many oldfags did from 2011-2015

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>>172901458
how about we just get along and stop trying to turn it into our very own personal indie game that we made for a change
how about we start being more open and honest with eachother instead of LARPing as fucking heebs or masons "cuz threds too uninteligents an shit poste" or whatever the fucking ridiculous line of reasoning actually is
how about we start acting like a community again

>>172901813
>that entirely hinges on who the fuck are you
You can safely assume I disagree with you on all topics from waifus to what constitutes quality content

>>172901813
That's the joke you dumb nigger, people pretend they know and are the arbiter of /vg/ culture all the time to try to win github arguments.

>>172901269

My waifu!

>>172901847
Excuse me, act like a community?

Sorry but I much prefer shitting on the coders, the admins, the metaclub, the discord, the players, the collaborators, anyone who disagrees with me, anyone who agrees with me, and the codebase I play on.

>>172901847
Where the fuck do you think you are?
Give me your ckey so I can ban you

>morena gets unbanned by pain without an appeal
>2hotdogs still banned

UN BAN HIM

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>>172902184
It's solarious that got unbanned without an appeal And it was probe that decided he would be unbanned because he solarious pmed him on discord and his erp buddy kuranon backed him up.

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>Spawn
>Walk toward bridge
>Bomb explodes right on top of me and gibs me
>Respawn as borer
>Science gets bombed the second I spawn and I die again

Don't eat haunted jam unless you're the haunting man

>>172902370
Sometimes you take it up the ass, multiple times and in quick succession.

>>172902298
This story is lacking key facts only we admin insiders have

t. Admin insider

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>>172902407
That was very spicy
That was MUCH spicier than I expected... although I really should have expected it, pic related

>>172902485
The fact there is literally no transparency on this and that he got past the image ban by exclusively observing as his static is sickening.

>>172902485
I don't know these facts
t. Admin insider

>>172902734
It's true, Solarious got unbanned solely to observe and stir shit in deadchat. It's so obvious that producing logs of these events should be easy right? I can't wait for us fellow truthers to produce logs of the truth we know is true

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>ops want to do full stealth
>want voice changers and everything but can't afford everything with teleporter
>spend thirty minutes on the syndie shuttle getting ready
>they say they can just hide the space suits
>someone finds the locker with their backpacks anyways, a few ditched their fucking headsets
>one blew up and the rest are stalking the disk holder
>tell them where the heads are through cams
>shuttle called
>the one OP communicating is deaf
>bomb places then the other says i hit them
>go in with guns and find the op with the disk
>give them a hardsuit
>set that nuke up and smelellelele
also hypo worked well other op times i guess it was because they were taking other types of damage too

>>172902826
Let's compare our knowledge. Pm me on discord

Is anybody else having issues connecting to the serb? or is it just me

>>172903087
My locker didn't get discovered. I checked it after I saw a sec officer dragging a locked locker to sec.

I was throwing EMPs in the room with the security officer, hit a MoMMI on the way. Attempted to emag it but when I was finished and attempted to drag it away an op on the other side of the airlock died and I got put into crit.

Got brought to medbay, healed up mostly, got some blood due to the ruptured lung and then a large explosion happened near me in medbay which ZAS´d me around and I just couldn´t get up and died.

>>172903087
They could of hid them The tard put it in one of the lockable lockers and didnt lock it. Only a head can open those once locked.

>>172903392
Other people are. Second day of problems.

Remember to ping probe or the chicken man himself (if you're brave enough)

>>172901283
>Cluster's become the dark knight to Probe's commissioner gordon
HELP! HEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!

>>172901458
Democracy only works when you're not overrun by refugees and people so toxic they were banned from said war-tiorn servers so no. They're also completely invested in self-serving decisions.

Most of the oldfags are too bitter, too bored, and out of touch

Emojiocracy is basically discord literally banned for actual metagaming repeatedly but are still unbanned and even admins now circlejerk gerrymandering along party lines

Metaclub has the same problem

Coders are wildly out of touch. They stopped playing when they got bored and moved onto fucking with the code instead of fucking with security officers. They don't remotely have the interests of the server at heart and are obsessed with can they do something instead of should they while they have everything-is-a-nail-o-vision goggles welded to their face

The culture has increasingly shifted because of tolerance of illegal immigrants and enabling the degeneration of the server by adding toxic garbage from their homelands to appease them as the slippery slope gets even slippier. vgstation was meant to be a med rp server with less of the admin abuse of the previous incarnations.

>>172903437
Oh I healed you up down the hall. I brought an advanced medkit from the shuttle. I did the best I could then trucked it so I wouldnt be blown up with you.

>>172903585
I got an advanced medkit and healed myself a bit before I went into paincrit. Some crewmembers dragged me away and healed me up.

>Set up SME
>Some shitlord carbon assistant comes in and calls it lame

20 minutes in and I feel like sharding someone, good job.

>>172903705
It only takes five minutes to SME.

>>172900850
remember how long it took to get mikecari banned?
digitalis is bad, but he's nowhere near as bad as mikecari was
he'll be around forever

>>172903519
A lot of this post is absolute garbage. The coders being out of touch part is alright though

>>172903808
That was the most garbo part of the entire post.

we should have a spaceman olympics

>>172903772
Less than one minute and I feel like sharding you, that's a new record.

>>172903705
The midway between lazy but enough to power station, and good enough for actually impressive amount of power is LAME.

https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues/10796
post "concerns"

>>172904095
One can't make impressive amounts of power in 10 minutes that's my only issue, what the fuck is he even expecting anyway?

>>172903705
>Shove the blasma in the teg cold loop
>Link the sme H/E stubs into the freezers
>Reconfigure the scrubbers to only suck plasma/co2/N2O
>Shut off the vent, and vent siphon
>Put the shard box inside
>Put a pump in the connector into the freezers
>Turn on the freezers and set the temp to 73k
>Pump in 2 nitrogen cans and an oxygen can
>Go pump the teg cold loop out and fill up a blasma tank
>Slap dat mf blasma tank in the collector
>Turn the vents on
>Emitter the shard open then turn it off
>Wire to grid
>Station time 12:13

>>172904197
fix the server please

>role engie borg
>rush engineering secure storage
>open the shard crate and set up an emitter
>open a few nitrogen tanks
>set room to siphon
ez 1 minute SME

>>172904402
That's a whole lot of unnecessary steps.

>>172904519
He can't help it, all he knows is how to copy bumbling's setup, he's too insecure to come up with his own setup

>>172904759
I haven't even seen bumbling's and a basic quick freezer SME isn't exactly rocket science.

>Despotate isn't repo banned yet
Jesus fucking christ.

>>172900685
>that knot
Get out

>>172904483
Enjoy your engie/silicon ban.

>>172904483
Im sure that will work out well, no cooling going in and no plasma tanks.

>>172905608
Ignoring firelocks is on you.

>>172900970
>carping around space
Amazing

>>172905681
You forgot the vent siphon
Vox are quick to help once you got their helmet off and the beatings start

>>172905682
It melts down without cooling you turd

>>172905719
Was real neat, we did some tests and people could pickup me in carp form and put me in their backpack, so there's some potential hilarity there.

Why are there no wizard spells to transform into different things like carp guy did?

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>xenoarch getting a lot of cool shit lately
>no xenobio buffs

>>172906773
Special morphing masks for wizards that when deactivated go to their hand and they can choose the mob that mask will turn them into when

>>172906773
That would actually be really cool. It could be random by default, and have a stable mode as an upgrade.

>>172906958
Post your ideas then fuccboi. Be constructive isntead of a whiny blue waffle

>>172906958
>lately

>>172906958
Phazon reagent was pretty fuckin cool. Plus, it's the same slime as golems, so you can inject them with your shit and make supergolems that move at light speed.

>>172906958
Just lrn2code like I did, and add in new shit.

>>172906958
If anything needs to be buffed, it's sepia and pyrite.

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>>172907086
alright senpai
>hostile gold core reaction doesn't exclude any mobs
>combat nanobots from black cores now come in 2 units
>slime lamp can be toggled to be made smaller to give less light but fit in pockets
port literally any slime race to replace ours

>>172907769
>>hostile gold core reaction doesn't exclude any mobs
Thought you wanted a buff, not a nerf.

>>172907858
it is a buff
it exludes mimics slimes alien empresses and humanoid type hostile mobs

>>172907947
Oh, thought you meant exclude as in how slimedudes are excluded from the mobs' ire.

>>172906047
I want to be a pet pocket fish.

>>172907769
That's still only really fucking with the same shit everyone else is doing

Gold, adamantine and black are the only ones people ever bother messing with in the code.

>>172906773
Add a spell called wildshape based on the D&D druid ability, let it turn you into different alien animals/monsters with improved health.

>>172907769
Difference between "cool shit" and "just buf it"

Also easy to say "lmao just port thing" without describing shit about it like why or what it does differently to people that have never seen it

http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&p=19210#p19210
I wanted DRAMA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>172908101
pyrite should splash a very large radius with paint and sephia slime should be able to make the 5x5 camera
>>172908343
everyone is too lazy to make an actual slime race and it's probably easier to copy paste their race code from somewhere else

>>172908343
I want TG's slimepeople, you can split yourself and become your own army that you control and toxic things produce more slimejuice to make more clones and heal you I think and anti-toxic things do the opposite.

>>172908424
nignigga what do the other slime people DO

>>172908424
The cameras are pretty aids man.
Also what fucking manga is that, it looks familiar.

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>>172908623
TG has toxic slimes that are very snowflakey, they're basically immune to toxins but have to run away from medibots and make sure no one injects them with anti toxin so they have to carry welder fuel to drink
vore slime people had free polymorph and was pretty lame
>>172908663

>>172908860
Don't forget the splitting my man, literally having an army of yourself hidden within the room to fight a single enemy is hilarious. And if they overpower you, you can jump to a clone hidden across the station as long as he did not incapacitate any of them while you were in it.

>>172909083
i never figured out how that worked, i just knew i can drink welder fuel and smoke my own blood

>>172907769
That'll cause problems going forward
Make an issue on github and it should be done within the week
I guess?

>>172908412
>Digitalis is despostate
Now the github shitposter makes sense

>>172909359
Your blood level needs to be at least 1000 to reproduce and you can manually raise the level through toxic things, food, and slime jelly, which is your blood, when there are multiple yous, you can open a menu to switch between any of them. Lose too much blood and you will eat your limbs to stay alive, so don't take any toxin healing things.

>>172909646
does cryo really kill TG slime people?
can't you just drink a bunch of welder fuel before it?

>>172909718
I don't know how much welder fuel does, try a tank with 50% oxygen and 50% plasma, that will work.

>>172908412
it's heating back up

>>172906773
>>172906987
>>172906996
>>172908182
Why not make a werewolf mode instead? We've already got vampires after all.

>>172910885
Yiff in hell furfag

>>172911637
Werewolves have been around before furries

>>172911810
ergo they've been yiffing in hell longer

>ywn get to play pAI

>>172911934
that statement is somehow more meaningless than the previous one

>>172911938
I was gonna make one, but server wouldn't let me connect until halfway through the round.
I'll set one up early next round if I can connect

>>172904197
Reading this I can't help but feel that Kernikov doesn't have much experience as an antagonist. All of the "advantages" he lists are mundane little bonuses anybody can get access to and several jobs already do have. There's not a single vampire or changeling who would trade an easily accessible hidey hole in maintenance for a base they can only get to by running all the way to arrivals through public halls.

>>172911938
just LOOC ask people to grab a pAI and search for you on it until someone agrees. This is allowed.

There's no excuse not to become pAI the moment you decide you want to.

>>172912213
why does nobody do it

>walk into brig and see a prisoner strapped down with warden at the desk
>pull out a rusty bikehorn and start playing some random honks at 90bpm
>warden says to get out of the lobby
>increase honks to 115bpm
>warden says to cut it out
>increase honks to 130bpm
>sec officer comes flying around the corner shouting
>Things are getting feisty. Increase honks to a lively 170bpm
>officer unholsters energy gun
>increase honks to 200bpm
>officer sets gun to kill
>increase honks to 230bpm
>officer locks gun on me
>increase honks to 300bpm
>officer screams again
>increase honks to 600bpm
>officer lets loose a barrage of lasers instantly putting me in crit

All that just to play some music... 100% true story

>>172912312
Clowns are always valid

>>172912186
kernikov is just trying to stay relevant

>>172912310
Apparently because it's not obvious that it's allowed to LOOC to tell people you're available as a pAI and for them to download you.

I had to confirm with an admin myself, but yeah it's fine to do.

Fix serb

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help pls

everytime the round ends I get disconnected and this error when rejoining. Other servers work fine

i heard pomf erps on /trash/ is this true

>>172912647
Same, when I finally get in the station is already trashed

>>172912312
God I felt awful, I'm not used to the "targeting" mechanic with guns
I was just trying to scare you off :(

serb die?

SERB?

server dead?

RIP

KURWA SERB ZABIETI

pomf connected to the serb for a second
so maybe he's doing something

it's fucking toasted

>>172912903
he's doing weekly erp session with admins

How do I up the capacity on a fire extinguisher?

>>172913098
ahelp

>>172913098
hold it in your right hand, then switch to your left hand and press alt+F4

>>172913020
No haha that's fucking stupid we don't do that. Lemme know your ckey so I can educate you further on this matter haha

how do you craft a cage?

>>172913020
how'd you find out

>>172912656
you too
is somebody leaking info from the admin discord?

>>172913258
I think it's 6 plasteel.

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>tfw no casino ship

any admins awake?

>>172913336
pomf, someone got unbannued yesterday without an appeal
apparently they just PMed an admin on the discord

where's the transparency

>>172913786
I like the idea, but still some problems.
>couches in the way of the only entrances
>booze machine isn't behind a bar
>bridge is completely empty
>no large blackjack table

>>172913794
Sawbones and Pomf

>>172913786
how to improve the trader ship
>make it so 2 spider queens don't spawn on it every single round (this is apparently an unreported bug)
>faster timings on the doors
>allow jukeboxes to work on it
>give emag functionality to the console for a super secret syndicate destination

>>172914235
i know its late as fuck but its been 4 years and i want my unban looked at.

>>172913798
good question, DM me on discord tomorrow and remind me to do something about it, im going to bed aka going to erp with all the lovely boys and girls

>>172914557
whats your username fampai

>>172914658
Lennethare. legit think i got banned in 2013.

>>172914193
Yeah, there's some problems with the size of the salvage shuttle and I really wanted to go to sleep so I decided to leave it how it is. If I had some time, I'd make it a really nice and kinda gaudy captain's quarters, the room with lockers would be a bathroom, and there'd be a spessmart bot in a suit with a booze vend behind the bar counter. Don't really see much room for a blackjack table there anyways.

I think it'd be really neat to have more organized competitor race to the Vox that'd act kinda like the Ferengi from Star Trek, but instead of salvage and sell shit, they'd do stuff like run high quality casinos and bars and the likes. Of course, they wouldn't be able to be a station race. No reason to be one.

I mainly just want the docking area of the station to be like a bazaar, with all sorts of cool or foreign shit. (as long as you have money)

>>172914704
k enjoy your game, fuck up again and the perma is going right back on

>>172914848
yes sir, thank you sawbones

>>172914904
no thats pomf the server owner

>>172914957
oh, thought it was sawbones because he was the only person online on the forums.

>>172914595
I don't use the discord, and I don't want my identity attached to a complaint about administration

>>172915201
the admins
legit won't do shit nigga

man up and stop being a bitch

>>172915201
I can honestly tell you we don't care. Nothing you say will be used against you. You could make a Discord/Forum account under a random nickname and message one of us.

I love rounds with no power

>>172917115
Anyone can set up solars

>>172917115
ICK OCK

>>172915201
You can make any random name and talk to them. It's not hard to still give proof of account once you're in a private room.

>>172917115
Anyoneand the borgs can setup solars
Anyone and the borgs can setup the TEG
Anyone can setup the SME
The silicons can help setup the AME and order more parts
Cargo can setup the cargo AME
Science and mining can setup the pac/superpac/mrspacmans

Literally anyone can just print an ass ton of power cells and swap them as needed with an easy to get multitool.
People who complain about power are too dumb to be allowed to live

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ummmm guys?

>>172919036
so it's okay to merge things with misleading titles now?

>>172919036
I should make a +Poll about keeping them.
I don't like how they were merged under a fake PR title, even if it was for April Fools.

>>172919237
Who the fuck are you

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>>172919279

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>>172919279
I'm your prom date you ugly sack of shit
t. Dante

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>>172919381
>foster will be the min to actually step up to this petty bullshit the coders are pulling
This is why you're the best

>>172919475
t. foster

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>>172919510
>Replying to myself
I'm not Probe
:^)

>>172919598
PROBE ON SUICIDE WATCH

Sorry Buzzby, I fucked up that round

If someone were to code it so that something spectacular happened when you tried to insert a bible into another bible...

What should that something be?

Holy Shit I connected to the serb instantly

>>172919872
It's fine. I don't do pAI expecting anything too spectacular.

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>>172919036
>we've been reduced to this shit again

>>172919889
Nothing, that's a stupid idea

>Be generally incompetent
>Soporific people to death
>Throw out all bone gel and Fixovein
>Constantly max out cryo heat
>Stuff HoP in the genetics machine and remove his identity
>Replace a few pills with Sulfuric Acid
>Feed a few people said acid in a bottle

Is this how you antagonize?

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>>172919598
My +POLL flag seems to have gone for a walk.
I had it before but it's gone at the moment. The headmins are AFK and Probe is playing Siege, so I'm shit out of luck for the moment. I'll make a poll as soon as I have it

>>172920075
acid is shit in pill form, might as well make a potent poison or debilitating chemical instead

>>172919997
Thanks though, you saved me
I PDAd Ricardo 1 credit since no comms and he just did the same thing to get me to save him, but he just forgot about me
Feels bad

>>172920214
Really? At least making them drink it worked as intended. Synaptizine meme, perhaps?

>>172920075
Were you the other chemist? Those fucking walls.

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>>172920148
Never mind it's back now

>>172920075
No you're supposed to be like "dude cheddars" and fuck a hole in the floor

>>172920270
Giving it to them via drinking or feeding will instakill them (200 brute damage) with about 20 units.

>>172920283
No, I was a medical doctor.

>>172920292
God damn it we agreed to make a poll in a week

>>172920302
I said "it's cheddars time" how are you still asshurt about this?

>>172920435
And to close all issues and PR discussion that looks like dissent
Do not bring up shitty coder practices

>>172920551
PJB is the only one who did anything of the sort
And only to one issue, as far as I remember

>>172920075
try mutagen in pills, it's better than acid and I'm pretty sure it's faster than synapt

and for gods sake do some grenades, waterpotassium ones are pretty good, some bleach smokes and shit are funny too because it fucks up lungs badly

don't forget mancroave if you got an emag

also get a spray bottle and fill it up with lube for some good assfucking action

>>172920435
Who's "we?"

>>172920489
I'm about to pass out here and the phrase is just so fundamentally retarded it's thrown me for a loop for some reason. I mean I get that you don't want to be boomboxed but still.

>>172920587
Or not
God damn it
I'm going to talk to them about not being douchenozzles
Tomorrow

>>172920680
Thanks exxion, you're a good bird

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This reads like something from a twentieth century Communist or Fascist manifesto.

>>172920642
As I told you in deadchat, you deep saltmine you, the s was an accident.
I am glad it happened though, truly my no greentext adventure antagonized and tickled all the right spots.

>>172920625
At the very least, Kilozombie, Clusterfack, and me (Exxion)
But Clusterfack decided to close the issue in which we did so so nobody noticed

Fucking hell. I'm going to punch whoever thought this whole ordeal was a good idea. I think attack animations should stay, but this was an awful way to go about merging them in the first place.

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>more illuminati larping

>>172920924
>Haha look mom I can deflect any criticism of my shit coding and lack of accountability if I just insult them.

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>>172920148
>Cluster shuts down his poll flag once he knows
GET YOUR GENETICS BACKUP QUICK! THE SYNDICATE IS COMING!

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>>172920989
eat shit pieter you're about an iceberg away from drowning with the rest of your fucking mayonnaise-guzzling caliphate

>>172921143
>Accused of being Senaat Al-Hollandi
This is new but I like it

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This is your headmin and head collaborator boys and girls.

>>172922238
DANE BRINGING THE PAIN

A message from the late botanist:

The moment wizard is confirmed, replace all autoinjectors in medkits with chloral injectors.

Fuck blinkers.

>>172922865
The autoinjector on your corps-se gave me the time to polyacid his-s sstaff

>>172922904
so that's what happened
nice

>>172922904
I saw that. If only you had been there earlier to stop the shitwizard from lowpop deathmatching.

Can someone nerf blink and prevent certain spells and items from being taken according to the server population please?

There's a reason we restrict certain game modes based on population, and this is it.

>pAI can use remote detonators
Literally could rig the station to explode at the signal of an agent hidden in a plant
>pAI can be put into energy weapons so you dropping them doesn't mean the dakka stops
>people play MeMMees and borgs on mass instead of being borers but not shit

>Games running so terribly that only 2 people readied up
>Coders are still patting themselves on the back for all their resent changes

>>172922918
I was going to fix the borgs, but one of the borgs told me the staff was bound to you so I went straight to chemistry

>>172923204
it's a byond bug

>>172923136
>>pAI can be put into energy weapons so you dropping them doesn't mean the dakka stops

Actually, you can just keep a smart laser gun with pAI in it inside your backpack, and it can still shoot from in there.

It's even better not to hold and use it. Use a different gun instead, or just have a smart pAI lasergun ready to blast anyone who stuns you, or throw your backpack down a hallway or around a corner to have it shoot your enemies.

>>people play MeMMees and borgs on mass instead of being borers but not shit

Try playing a few rounds with the express intention of being a pAI in a smart laser gun for someone. Even if your master is sec, it's not gonna happen 99% of the time.

>>172923204
Game hasn't loaded
Guess we know who the antags are

>>172923280
Then why has lifeweb been running well? Chakemate

>>172923213
He blinked into the courtroom after you chloralled him. You could have just brained him and kept the staff for yourself

>>172923292
>r just have a smart pAI lasergun ready to blast anyone who stuns you, or throw your backpack down a hallway or around a corner to have it shoot your enemies.
Imagine going tator and mass producing

>>172923383
hi kolith

>>172923384
I have no interest in chasing a blink wizard, he was already disarmed and could jerk off for all I care

surprised he woke up so quickly from 15u chloral though

>>172923536
harm intent syringe will inject any random amount from 0 to 10 of its payload

>7 players online
>2 playing

>>172923592
It was 5u autoinject 10u injected on help intent, then he blinked away because I guess he can do that unconscious

>>172923428
What? You can order smart laser guns from cargo crates, and they open with security access.

Just buy like two crates and make extra pAIs in science and fill your backpack with them.

>>172923536
He was filled to the brim with doctor's delight from chugging all the autoinjectors from medbay storage and some o2 closets.

>>172923667
I can't even connect right now.

>>172923667
>6 players online
>2 playing

ebin

>>172923719
That's what I meant. I want an army

>>172923689
Chloral lets you stand for a few seconds, downs you for a dozen, lets you stand for a few more seconds then downs you until it runs out.

>>172923689
he wasn't unconscious yet when he blinked, he stood back up after your two help syringe injections, then immediately fell over in courtroom and slept there for a while with nobody approaching.

>>172923667
Forever connecting

>>172923785
>>172923789
rip

I wanna play
fix when

>>172924571
When you bitch at coders to do it.

Serb is back.

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Casual reminder that player interaction is what makes ss13 so interesting and diverse. Strive to create interesting situations and allow for crew cooperation in order to make rounds much more enjoyable, a lone powergamer doesn't have nearly as much playing as if he had another armory packing powergaming friend to back him up

>the coders don't care about the players
Hmm it's almost as if Celt was right

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>wake up
>check thread
>LOOK THE SERVER IS DEAD AND IT'S ALL THEIR FAULT

>join /vg/ general
>drama hell breaks loose
every time

>>172929412
Drama only exists if you respond to it. If there was anything serious we'd step in and sort it out.

>>172929561
I'm not going to claim I know everything, but what it looks like is that some coders deceived the fan base by pretending something is an April fools joke to get it in the game. Isn't this a little bit of an issue?

>>172929678
I don't like attack animations but they did win a server poll to be implemented and they can be disabled client side.

Yes the coders lied, they would've just forced it anyway

>>172929678
It is but nothing is going to be done about it because everybody who isn't up their own ass with some kind of faggy fucking agenda is either complacent or apathetic.

>>172929848
I play ever day and I never saw this poll?

>>172929678
>>172929848
They all promised to hold a poll after it'd been introduced. I don't see this poll.
Honestly, I like attack animations, coming from TG, so I have no problem with that, but I think if the time came, I would vote no on keeping them just because of the downright clinton-level means they used to add them

>>172922238
Well, I'm sure you could probably code actual honest to god movement animations, but have fun then making new sprites for the base bodies and then even more for every piece of wearable equipment

and that's just for a basic walk cycle in the 4 cardinal directions, if you want attack, interaction animations, that's even more frames you gotta do

it's why no one has bothered to ever undertake a task like that, even if the sprites are pretty simplistic to begin with

It might have been possible back in the old days when there was much less stuff, because then when you have the basics done that way, you set a standard that all future art assets have to follow

>>172930236
Agreed. It's messed up and pretty scummy. Seems Foster says he'll hold a poll though, so that's good

>>172922238
serious question, how would you make movement animations look like?
I might be interested in researching this feature but I'm kinda skeptical about it working or looking decent because of how the game is set out

>>172931850
not him but a simple walk cycle for each of the 4 directions would be more than enough

like I said in >>172931716 though, you'd have to do the same for every single wearable item, it's a daunting amount of work

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>>172900685
I AM

THE LAAAAAAWWWW!!!!

>>172932168
I don't know if it's worth it though, I'd probably need to see it first but I'm no good at spriting.
Along with that, later on someone might decide that they'd like diagonal animations and fucking hell that's even more work.
It'd be best to create some dynamic system for it , but I'm not familiar with byond or this cute so no idea if it's possible

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I'll manage to finish it one of these days.

been around the block

coming over to /ss13g/ to say that ss13 had the highest happiness per investment return of any videogame I've ever played

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Why do the players keep insulting us dawg?

>>172932424
>or this cute
i meant 'this code'

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>>172932424
If you were to completely overhaul the sprites, you COULD do what the standalone remake guys were gonna do and model the characters and all the wearables, animate the models, then render them out as sprites

Would probably not be doable at the resolution of this game's assets, the standalone's assets were higher res spritework

Game could do with a graphical refresh though I feel.

>>172932757
yea, as I said I'm not great at spriting, or anything graphical-related really. I'm just about to start learning byond's language in hopes to contribute some bug fixes if nothing else

I like those walls and doors

>>172932460
That's too much work You need to either finish it on local, rally hobos from home depot, and share the pic in looc to assign duties. Or write up a pastebin of instructions to copy/paste from

Server's gone back to being fuckey it seems.

>>172932939
Make lockable lockers craftable. Right now we can only make the grey ones that anyone can open.

>>172932939
I just realized the doors are styled after the original ones from original SS13, and not the post-goon version

>>172932968
It's not as much work as it looks when you spawn in as an Engineer or somesuch, and especially as a mechanic. The drink machines are optional since you can hack the booze vender for all your needs. The worst part is the scrubbers, but if you want a bar with a vox atmosphere it's faster than putting in an actual airlock.

>>172932993
There's probably a reason for that you know

>>172933115
I mean the Science, Engineering, Electrical, Security, etc lockers.

>>172933115
what would be the reason for not being able to craft these >>172933161 ?

>>172932993
>>172933161
Alternatively, make a ghetto lock with wire and a signaler or something.

>>172933161
>>172933203
Oh that's what you mean
why aren't those craftable?

>>172933234
This would be a good idea too

>>172933161
>>172933203
>>172933309
And while we're at it, someone make department versions of the chests and do lockable versions of those too.

>>172933203
You could switch them out with the starting ones for harder to track theft. I don't know whether that's really gamebreaking though.

>>172933467
fucking hell wrong wiki, disregard

>>172933467
They picked a bad sprite because the wikifag that did that is dumb
Nobody cares about making a locker circuit for the mechanism

We already have the lockable lockers, and the crates from cargo, so coding up a recipe shouldn't be too bad. Something like [locker/crate] + [stock part] = [lockable]. Maybe a proximity scanner?

>>172933536
It shouldn't be that hard. Add it to the list of things you can make with a glass and soldering iron and either choose the type of lock from a list, or swipe your ID to set it.

>>172933573
Airlock controller circuit maybe.

>>172933634
I think you need engineering access to set those though.

Unban morena

>>172933604
It isn't, it's just not something anyone who can has an interest in as you can see from there not being any

Is there still a bug where you can't apply sulfuric acid from stuff like glasses or cans to soldering irons? I remember going through so much ghetto chem shit to find out that I couldn't even put it on the iron.

>>172934548
What are soldering irons even for?

>>172934617
Fixing emagged doors and creating basic circuit boards for things like microwaves and vending machines from glass sheets.

>>172934617
Apply acid to iron
Use iron on glass
You now can choose a common circuit board to make, like autolathe or airlock.

>>172934617
Modifying certain circuit boards and making some basic ones. Also fixing emagged doors.

>>172934548
Haven't tried in a while, go ahead and find out then report it like you should in the first place

>>172934617
They print basic circuits so yo udon't have to pull a locker with a toolboxe of 14 boxes of 42 assorted power control modules, airlock circuits, and air alarm circuits.

why the heck do i need enginnering access to edit airlock boards?

>>172934940
Because the engineering department is the only one that should be messing with the insides of airlocks.

>>172934969
das gay yo, what if i want to build shit and there's no enginners/hop?

>>172935046
Any retard can pop a circuit, change it to captain only and pop it back in.

You had 7 slots to pick it then

>>172935214
but you would need to dismantle a door like you normally would to take its circuit out.

and if it took so long for you to notice someone fiddling with the door you might as well let the clown remove all doors from brig.

>>172935407
>Door was emagged bro just fixing it up *shrug

>>172932757
Looks like goon.
Looks weird.

>>172901458
t. depostate

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>>172932547
gee i dunno

>>172936206
Why is probe such a puss?

>>172936206
>Think you're immune to it being called like it is because the turd is god's great gift to man
Which shitflinging mess was that one anyway? Taxi?

>>172936206
Probe, you are coding here because you want to code here. You don't owe a single thing to anyone and if people decide they do not like your content, they have a right to say they do not want it and to reject it being implemented into the main server. We might not be full on emojicracy but if a lot of people heavily dislike something, those people will usually say why they do and explain, if you get salty not everyone wants to be TG and abandon how things are for what they believe to be worse systems, you can bitch and moan about how "jaring" it is to come from a ss13 break and not see useless walking spritework but that doesn't mean everyone will want spritework or thinks walking animations are in any way crucial.

Get a spine or fuck off Probe. I don't care if you were venting, get a grip and quit bitching about people who dont agree with you explaining why they dont.

do devs use the IRC or am I forced to use memecord

>>172936441
>>172936456
>>172936669
Not probe. Here's a tripcode.

On highpop we get like 80 people, on lowpop we get like ten. Not everyone votes. Not everyone cares.
There's definitely a small group of screaming retards that shout BUT WE'RE NOT BAY/TG/ETC every time we try to port something or code something similar to what other servers have.
There's definitely also a small group of screaming retards that shout exactly the opposite and try to make us as close to other servers as possible.

The thing is, we can never improve or change this codebase if we keep thinking everything is fine as it is. Not everything is bad, not everything is good. Not every PR or idea is bad, nor are they all good. It's vague.

tl;dr probe is right, fuck off

>>172936894
IRC is fine. IRC just feeds to discord (and vice-versa) anyway.

>>172936206
this whole attack animations thing has really woke me to how buttheaded people are
people stir shit, fan the flames, and latch onto one server drama after another
turn them off in preferences ya cunts

t. literal who

>>172936914
I think attack animations are are good thing, but don't you think it's messed up coders were sneaky about it, put it in for April fools, and then don't revert it? It is a No balls pussy thing to do

>>172936113
Yeah, because none of the other sprites have been redone to match that shit

They also fucked the doors apparently, they aren't the ones from that sheet but they're the standard doors skewed at an angle and they look pretty bad

but hey at least there are sprites for each direction now I guess

>>172937096
A bit sneaky, but it's a good, toggle-able addition, so who the fuck cares? PR should be changed to reflect the actual changes,though.

>>172936914
>Improperly and quickly self-merge merge something that never should have been added with a misleading title as part of a "joke" which was a calculated decision to shove said thing that never should have been merged through
>*cough, I mean my metabuddy merged it for me so it's not a self-merge honest! I totally didn't self-merge yet again guys the rules are totally legit only for you!
>Both are maintainers who both know better and have lashed out at others for misleading pr's
>Lash out at and silence rightful dissent over the misbehavior
>"I-it's no big thang you silly goys! Return to your cattle pens or we'll get the prods!"
>Heh heh gud goys, this latest beaker of lube is really sprucing the luge up
You wonder why people hate all of you? Because you're fucking children who deserve to be necked. Your shit isn't god's gift to man and your b-b-but you can't tell me that so I'm immune to criticism attitude is repulsive. Get fucked. You're blinded by just deciding they're a "shitposter" and writing them off. All of you are tolerating this shit and in doing so enabling it.

>>172937352
I care because it's unkind. At least try to get the playerbase's opinion, or just upright say you don't care. Don't be an asshole jerk about it man. Its just a game

>>172936914
No, its not fucking vague and you know its not vague sonix. That's as bullshit as every ideology being valid and respecting everyones point of view, that's baby talk for you being a pussy and excusing your own bullshit ideas based on other people also having bullshit ideas, /vg/ has its own damn identity and Im here because I like it as it is, not TG, not Bay, not Hippie, not Urist. Im here because of /vg/, its features, its playstyle and its players, we can have attack animations if its toggleable, fine by me, but don't you start going all coder on us, ignoring the playerbase, its feedback and being a massive pussy bitch just because people don't want the same shit you do, people have the right to say they don't want X, Y or Z feature in the server and if you try and restrict it, you are just as bad as goof and the rest of the TG retards. Start ignoring the thread, demonizing the playerbase and by all means, seperate from 4chan where you wont get so much criticism, lot of good that shit did to TG.

>>172907098
>make an singular phazon after possibly hours of trying for it since the job is entirely luck
>An engy borg scans it
>Your job is now useless as the one thing you do that's actually relevant is something engybot does far better

>>172937579
THEY'RE JUST A VOCAL MINORITY MAN! SCREAMING RETARDS! I KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT FUCK THEM FUCK YOU FUCK ALL OF YOU I'M ALREADY MERGED AND YOU LITERALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN THE META-CODERCLUB

this whole attack animations debacle is just reinforcing my distaste for democracy IRL

>>172937676
We are literally not a emojicracy anon. This ain't democracy, its at most soft dictatorship.

>>172937579
Yeah. Its not the attack animations I care for so much, more the attitude that is being taken. Underhanded tactics to get what you want and dismissing the player base isn't good yo

>>172937748
good

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How should the locker crafting be done? Which additional material would be needed?
I imagine it can either be crafted like the closet, but opening another dialog where to choose the type. Or maybe craft a closet then add the additional materials to it? Still needs a way to choose the type.
Also, newly crafted locker should be unlocked by default

>>172937951
Airlock circuit, make it so its now in the locker, swiping it sets it so only your acess level/job can open it, swiping it again locks it.

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>>172937676
Democracy has never worked. It is always poisoned by the self-serving nature of the gatekeepers who control the barrier to meaningful impact and the whims of an ever-changing populace. Not to mention we have sawboner and the other metaclub cliques that disproportionately swing it whatever way they want as a block which is fine until it's fighting for something that shouldn't be done because their metabuddy proposed i or attacking someone solely because of their grudge against them. When you have a populace that is rapidly changing from illegal refugees who fled or were banned from terrible shitholes like teg and hippie but then want turn it into what they fled you get where we're at. a solid long slide from what pomf formed the server to be and what the refuse that infected it have warped it into.

So here we are with cluster sneaking shit in he know wouldn't fly in then the meta-coder club rallying around him to support his misbehavior and shitting on the people who are calling him out on it instead of doing your responsibility of ousting him and PJB as people with the power to make a difference. They have zero integrity after this has happened yet again and instead of ending it they rally around him and try to undermine a serious legitimate breakdown in the system. Even Probe of all people.

>>172937951
Make a new item under it, [Secure closet Frame] 1 metal, bring up a menu letting you choose the base type. have an examine for needs wiring. needs secure closet circuit. needs screwing, needs additional metal, needs welding to secure it.

>>172938318
>m-muh metaclub

No source

>>172938496
Which?
Sawbones and the others have been repeatedly caught metagaming then let go. I doubt an admin would give you the ban logs on it but it's there
Go ahead and go through PJB and clusters comments going back months
PJB and many of the others can't get their jaws off each others knobs because they're circling the wagons against the "vocal minority" and "screaming retards" Point in case >>172937352

>>172938496
https://discord.gg/DtZRJcw If you want to see the coder circlejerk where they call everyone who plays the game retarded.

>>172938318
There's no reason to revert a good feature and deal with secret repo conflicts just because people are buttmad about "muh vote, muh emojicracy, muh yclatposting" and want to see the literal second coming of no-fruit drama

If you have evidence or feedback post it on the forums

>>172938757
>implying coders don't play
disgusting thread metaclub wanking

>>172938903
Is every time you retards fuck up going to undermined by "muh chowder reference"

>>172939054
Sure thing, enjoy more tg degeneracy. Not like you actually play or the rules actually apply to you guys.

Yes, it is. It's what they've been doing for years and will keep doing for years instead of throwing cluster and pjb out on their ass.

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>inb4 someone does the locker crafting before me while I try to learn how to code

>>172939191
>>172938903


>>172939221
Something else will rumple your butthole and then you'll be able to try to do something about it, watch it never be merged, then get bitched at for "conflicts when when the metaclub merged more recent pr's before yours breaking it in the process. After you fix it it'll still never get merged and the cycle will repeat until you give up or you start slobbering knobs and dropping the emoji's they tell you to.

If you approach coding with any attitude besides "I want to make players happy and help them have fun" you need to immediately fuck off until you grow up. This is a 4chan server. Nobody cares about your ego. The moment you post with a tripcode you've outed yourself as a Reddit dwelling faggot who would be better off coding for some other server. Do you think you're special? Do you think we care if you throw a hissy fit and leave? You know happened when our biggest, backseat, and best coder left? We kept playing SS13. Admins too, you prissy faggots. There are DOZENS of people who have been deadminned and it's going to happen to you too. Nobody gives a shit. If you want to contribute, do so without being a massive crybaby and retreating to your namefag echochamber when people make fun of you.

>>172937514
Ebin. Nobody is immune to criticism, though.

>>172937516
ok

>>172937579
/vg/'s identity has changed a lot over the years that I've been here. You sure you're not just grasping what you like too hard? What's stopping you from rolling back to a good commit to host everything yourself like those other guys did recently?

Any sane 4chan-related group ignores the thread.

>>172939442
>This is a 4chan server.
You don't even know what that means, do you?

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>>172939442

>>172939479
>>172939549
he's not wrong though

>>172939442
Do you even play here? Sonix isn't an admin and they still haven't repo banned cl*st*r"double self-merge, the rules apply to you not me and none of my metaclub will stand against me, and none who aren't will throw themselves on the rails for you so you gotta suck it"faggot can still do whatever the fuck he wants however he wants in the nearly most blatant manner he can with impunity. He also put it on solely to deal with m-muh probe strawmanning.

>>172939479
Apparently they are because constantly you guys shove your heads in the sand and discount them outright as the "those people" buzzword of the moment then carry on while the rest of your metaclub circles the wagons regardless of how bad the shit stinks.

Servers not dead but i cant connect, anyone else?

>>172938981
I'm not a shit stirring drama fag so no

>>172932757
I love that perspective.

>>172938981
How about the entire fucking trains PR and every fucking PR where people don't want us being yet another step closer to tg and being banned from tg? go to vg mah nigga. We're already a cesspool of aggressive tg/hippie/pub shitters

>>172940121
works for me
either its bunker which i doubt since the bunker is a joke or you got yourself banned. check the ban page.

>>172939479
>Any sane 4chan-related group ignores the thread

And you guys said probe and his metabuddies didnt want to purge the thread

>>172938981
Oh and another thing. I guess I missed by window but I should self-merge a PR called "funny meme joke" that actually does "hotly contested issue that conflicts with the principle of the server before it was hijacked by tg and the pubbie scum" then have my metabuddy merge it for me so my day 1 self-merge can't be called out on what it is after I already got caught doing it. Then when people have a problem with it my metabuddy can shut down the people talking about it and nothing will be done about it because as a maintainer myself and my metabuddy maintainer railroading this none that can actually do anything about it will risk my ire.

>>172940605
not banned, still cant connect i'll try again next map i suppose.

>>172939479
>Any sane 4chan-related group ignores the thread.
>What's stopping you from rolling back to a good commit to host everything yourself like those other guys did recently?
If you want to say "you dont matter, if you dont like the way the server is going, go do your own and fuck off", just say it instead of dodging with pretty words.

Get the head out of your ass you traitor. You go ahead and code small shit, act like you are big time when you are the new celt and when people start disagreeing with you, you immediately dismiss them as nothing but shitposters and /vg/ scum. You know well that the feedback people post has merit and that you are doing nothing but saying "fuck the players, my own vision, fuck valid criticism and opinions that aren't my own, the players who play the game cannot possibly know how to balance it" despite of all people, they are some of the best who know how well mechanics are going to be introduced and how a item is going to be used/exploited. You are a fucking idiot that now has a inicial stage coder complex and think he is the tightest shit in this side of Tau Ceti because he re-enabled drag damage, ported some shitty pistols from bay and stopped plasmamen from being in head roles. Get the head out of your ass sonix, you know the thread, when serious, has good feedback and isnt shitposting and that players do present valid criticism and have a right to say what they want and do not. Doing a dragonbro and going the way of the two major code autists only makes you look like the biggest retard with a powertrip to ever come here, if you want to be goof, go to TG, there you can ignore player feedback all you fucking want and act like you rule the world.

>>172939982
We have plenty of good discussions regarding ideas and PRs on github.

>>172941303
I'm saying the thread doesn't matter. Because the thread doesn't matter. I take 'valid criticism' from the github all the time.

I don't code jack shit, I do tiny little changes, I don't consider myself hot shit or part of the coders or whatever. Calm down a bit.

>>172942137
>I do tiny changes
>Readds bleeding on drag that makes people superdead by the time they get to medbay.
Sure thing buddy.

>>172942137
You mean like that discussion that got closed for going against the coder metaclub? Go fuck yourself

>>172942137
>Keep telling you they shut it down
>"We have plenty of good discussions regarding ideas and PRs on github."
Well I guess

>>172942354
Then it they would have died anyway you casual tg shitter scum. Use grab or a locker.

>>172942354
It was still there when I started playing and it worked out fine. Dunno, man.

>>172942382
Which one?

>>172942591
??

>>172942657
Are you genuinely retarded?

>>172942591
the issue is that majority of non-medbay staff are still just dragging bodies to medbay, the the bodies have so little blood and high brute/burns that it just encourages going straight to cloning. It also completely fucks Borgs on asimov

>>172942762
No, I'm just not really paying attention.

>>172942137
>>172942657

sure had plenty good discussion about merging and not polling for "trains" :^)

I'm going to fork from vg, revert shit reddit changes like attack animations and host my own MEDIUM RP /vg/ server with no discord or metaclubbers allowed.

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>>172942137
Oh yes, the thread doesn't matter now, what next, 4chan doesn't matter? Why are we still connected to 4chan and using a 4chan name if we ignore the thread, one of the few threads that isn't purely used for mindless circlejerking and waifu posting? Might aswell abandon the damn thread and 4chan right, we don't listen to the thread, name only, time to go fucking TG style route. You want to completely isolate and negate the feedback of people in the thread just because they aren't in the github, real nice ain't it, just ignore a large part of the community that doesn't constantly browse the github nobody actively warns people about, that's the right way to go, force in fucking features the thread hates, hear feedback from a few players, think they are nothing but a loud minority since only a few players know about the git, dismiss said players and push in shit, wonderful fucking system.

Eat shit, you damn fucking traitor. You do consider yourself hot shit otherwise you wouldn't be saying stupid garbage like ignoring one of the most crucial parts of our damn community just because they don't know about a non advertised part of the community that's exclusively dwelled by obsessive players or code fags that decide the way the game will go. Don't want to get people mad, dont want them to fucking insult you, quit the act, quit trying to seperate 4chan from the damn game and ignoring 4chans side of the community when we are a damn 4chan server.

Get a grip you retarded PJB ass licker, bet any anon here 50 bucks you agree with removing the fucking asteroid or replacing it with Goons unused asteroid magnet that nobody likes at all just because he likes it.

>>172942657
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14503
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues/14526

>>172942785
It's new, it'll take time to filter down. If they're already in crit they're toast anyway