/twg/ - Total War General

1st for histfags getting BTFO

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No rats!

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I was playing around with setting my graphics settings too high for my machine, and seeing how badly it goes
One thing I noticed was that the quality of the self-shadows changes pretty significantly based on viewing angle
Does this happen because the game detected my less-than-spectacular framerate, or does it do that based on amount of other things to draw in the scene?

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>>172754482

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(reposting my tactical map autism)
I've been playing empire lately, the pace feels right and allows for slower movement and watching things play out but the fucktarded AI kind of sucks the fun out.

I was hoping warhammers tactical view would be either more detailed or more simplified like pic related, hard to do with the dynamic unit shapes i suppose. As it stands the tac view doesn't cover a lot of the field, the units from above arent easily discernable and the icons dont give much of a representation of where they are and how theyre spread without highlighting.

Something 'bout them rectangles just feels right with showing troop movement. Apparently rome did it, why change it?

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>fantasy beastmen will never become their own thing with their own gods etc and instead will always be a chaoshit race
Besides do they even have a reason for wanting to destroy all civilization or is it yet another MUH GRIMDARK choice

>>172755221

the worst chaosfags in the entire world are the ones in GWs office

>>172755221
>why aren't my rape goats the good guys rEEeee
fuck off

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>>172754012

>>172755221
Civilization tends to burn and cut down forest for farms, dam rivers for land (and power) and dig huge pits in the earth.

That's a no-no for the beastieboys.

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So lorefags, assuming each faction gets four legendary lords (two starting, one free-lc, one paid), who do you think they will be realistically?

Tyrion, Teclis, ?, ?
Malekith, Morathi, ?, ?
Kroak, Mazdamundi, ?, ?
Skreech, Skrolk, ?, ?

>>172755221
Beastmen are probably really nice most of the time, but when the Chaos-touched Lord rises and they put down the Herdstone, the party's on.

So could someone definitively describe to me just why histfags are so analpained over the WH2 announcement? Like, not to fanboy here I love the history titles but they've come out and said multiple times that the historical game is in developemnt.

>>172755302

no one asked for the rapegoats to be nice

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>>172754840
>High elves won't be the OP pieces of shit they deserve to be
Why live

>>172755345
One of the Skaven LLs will obviously be Queek and he'll be part of the Karak Eight Peaks campaign with Skarsnik and Belegar.

>>172755345
i love warhammer miniatures but why the fuck do they need skill to pain them and why are they so fucking expensive.
i am so fucking sad

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When the fuck will the Tyranids invade the Warhammer Fantasy world?

the more i look at the slann model the more the navel bothers me

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>tfw patiently waiting to murder Druchii

>>172755410
history has a loud, stupid, autistic minority that cant enjoy anything else it seems. Best to ignore them. We're all TRVE VNDERSTANDERS here at least.

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>>172755410

I'm having trouble downloading some of the free dlc on steam, the download button just tries to launch warhammer. Anyone know how to fix this?

>>172755536
When Grimgor dies of old age.

>>172755620
History fucking rocks, but I'm not butthurt that CA is making a new Warham game because I like Warhammer too

>>172755536

They almost did, read on Zoats.

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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!

>>172755551

what are the high-elves hiding under those stupid fucking helmets?

>>172755536
well, warp shards rain from the sky so maybe soon

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It's stabbin' time!

>>172754840

>high elves
>best elves

wew

>>172755909
Topknots, most likely. If it's from Warhammer and it wears a pointy helmet, chances are it has its hair up in a topknot.

>>172755410
I don't understand how a group of people could get so angry about something but didn't even care enough to check when CA said the announcement would be "about the future of Warhammer: Total War". It's the same group of people who will throw another tantrum when the next historical game gets announced and it isn't Medieval 3.
>>172755730
I had to keep on launching the game through the download button to get all the free stuff.

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>>172755909
Their hair.

>>172754012
Reccomend me the best mods for a comfy campaign in Atilla or Warhammer. I have all DLC for Atilla sans roman expedition, whilst in warhammer im missing PEEPEEPOOPOO, chaos warriors, WE and Grim and the Grave

>>172756042

i knew a guy who played helves on tabletop

he was a twat. i don't think this was a coincidence

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>>172755885
>mfw this memefaggot will play as his favorite race before I play based Dawi zhaar master race

>>172755909
It's a holdover from Games Workshop's crappy models. They couldn't get basic proportions right and it was easier to just make the helmets cone-shaped by design. So a lot of helmets look like they're made to be worn by Dan Akroyd.

>>172756312
that's what you get for being a minority

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>>172754840
Genociding those pretenders so Malekith the true phoenix king can reclaim his land is going to be fun as hell.

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>>172755345

We'll just go with most important characters instead of the more deserving I guess

>Tyrion, Teclis, Finubar the Phoenix King, Alarielle the Everqueen
>Malekith, Morathi, Helleborn the Hag Queen, Malus Darkblade Ruler of Hag Graef
>Mazdamundi, Kroq-Gar, Tehenhauin, Nakai the Wanderer
>Skrolk, Thanquol, Ikit Claw, Queek Headtaker

3rd game will add on two lords for each faction as well as four new units (minimum) for each faction.

>>172756312
I guess when CA were pulling straws to see who'd be left until last the chaos dwarfs pulled the shortest.

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List of Warhammer races from Good guys to Bad guys

1. High Elves (Pretty much the only "real" good guys in setting, they just want to protect world)

2. Empire (It really depend on elector counts, but if we talk about Karl, he is a good guy and want to keep empire uneted and safe)

3. Dwarfs (Too butthurted and mostly cares only about themself, but can comes to aid to other dwarfs or even empire if shit goes really bad)

4. Lizardmen (Technically there are the good guys but, too fucking stupid and probably will attack other good guys because again too stupid)

5. Wood Elves (If you ignore wild hunt they only cares to protect Athen lorel so probably neutral)

6. Bretonnians (Only cares to protect themself and too busy to brainwash peasants into degenerates)

7. Dark Efs (If you ignore edge and sacrifice and slavery they are not THAT bad)

8. Greenskins (Goblins are less evil than orcs, but both of them too dumb to understand, what they're doing is wrong)

9. Ogres (HURR DURR WILL KILL FOR FOOD)

10. Everyone else are just pure evil

>>172756448
>Malekith
>not most likely Slaanesh's lapdog
Ulthuan ain't free, I tell you.

>>172756554

their development got stunted

>>172756574
10. Skaven (Not pure evil but pretty evil)

11.Everyone else are just pure evil

>>172755536
But tyranids are literally everywhere in warhammer and are about to destroy the capital of the imperium. I mean Tyranids are literally one of the debut races of the tabletop

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day of the woodchipper when

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guys fast, i need your dankest warhammer spurdo memes.

>>172756842
They were in the last thread, despite what you see, this general is entirely about posting memes.

>>172756697
The rats are pretty much pure evil though, were they ever seen have good emotions or intentions?

>>172756697
can a human deal with Skaven?
i like them

>>172756940
They stopped Nagash from killing everyone that one time, although that was more to protect their own hides than anyone else

I don't know shit about the warhammer lore, can you help me a bit, what are the units you see in the trailer ?

For the High Elves was it the silent phenix guard?
dark elves had crossbows and not-wardancers
lizards had a Slann, a big T-rex and some blue litte shits

>>172756574
Agree with everything except Ogres. I'd put them below Bretonnia and above Dark Elves.

Most are dipshits sure, but others are mostly ok, and more usually than not they're just mercenaries. Some, like the Leadbelchers, actually have a semblance of morals, which is more than we can say for any Dark Elf

>>172756940

anything that kills as many skaven as the skaven can't be all bad

>>172756818
>turn 106
>still hasn't won the badlands bowl
INTO THE BOOK

Is there a FAQ for TWW? I want to read up before I play for the first time. I know nothing about Warhammer except basic memes that get spammed everywhere like WAAGH

>>172757178
what kind of thing are you looking for? how to play the game, or like lore?

>>172756574
>>7. Dark Efs (If you ignore edge and sacrifice and slavery they are not THAT bad)
>If you ignore the bad parts they are not bad


Really activates my almonds

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>>172755345

Never was much into the elves, so I can't say anything about them.

They'll need one or two "regular" looking Lizards. Maybe Tehenhauin or Kroq-Gar.

I'm willing to bet money that they'll put in Thanquol for the Skaven. Queek is also likely, I think.

>>172756495
>Nakai the Wanderer
>most important

He was forgotten in, like 5th edition or something. Chakax or Tetto'Eko is more likely. Fuck, even Kroak. At least they had models.

>>172757214
Que no los dos

>>172756964
I think so, humans can deal with goblins so why not with skaven

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>>172756495

Some ideas for extra two lords

>Oxyotl the Chameleon Skink, Lord Kroak
>Throt the Unclean, Deathmaster Snikch
>Beastlord Rakarth, Lokhir Fellheart
>Eltharion, Alith Anar

>>172756574
>they are not THAT bad
They routinely wage the everloving fuck out of war against the folks you listed as the top good guys of the setting. The majority of them think the best deity ever is the god of bloody murder and worship him exclusively, and the rest of them worship a soul-devouring god of depravity. Nobody ever allies with these guys because fucking everyone has experienced being raided by them. One of their national holiday celebrations involves murder cultists running around town and stealing toddlers to throw in a big cauldron of boiling blood. One of the most powerful castes in their society is the one made up of their militarized executioners corps. Every single estate in their cities has walls several times the height of an ordinary person, because everyone in the city thinks their neighbor has it out for them.

Fucking Ogres are better people than these douchebags.

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Repostan

https://puu.
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>>172755221
They are humans mangled by chaos and their hatred for normal humans is mostly spite due to them not being horrible freaks. Centigor lore outright states that they are angry as fuck due to being too smart for their clumsy forms.

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>>172757378

All races of Lizardman society shall be represented

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>>172756574
>10. Everyone else are just pure evil
Northerners can be okay people. A lot of them have some really fucked up sensibilities, though.

>>172756495
>malus darkblade

Any generic Dreadlord can ride a Cold One. I'd much rather have Lokhir Fellheart to fill out the corsair options.

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>>172757573
Wew

Does anybody have a good screenshot of a minotaur's head, 3/4 angle? Without head armor. I need it as reference for my drawings. Google doesn't seem to have much in this sense
Of course I'd take a screenshot myself but I don't own the game yet

>>172757767
Any more stuff like that?

someone post the warhammer roll pic

>>172757573
n..nani?!

>>172757178
1d4chan or whatever wiki you prefer. there's probably a thread on /tg with actual links for fantasy shit

>>172757178

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/2qbp22o8ch8qc/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battles

This one has almost all the books you could ask for.

Alternatively, just read the wiki

>>172758164
>/tg

What is Turin's twitch stream? He doesn't have the link in his videos for some reason.

>>172756495
>third game
I haven't been following total war since attilla. are they releasing games in trilogies now? what the fuck?

>>172758327
/tg/ is our vassals

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never ever

>>172758164
>>172758215
Cool. Gameplay?

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>>172757907
I'm so insanely bored i took one for you

>>172755635

seems pretty accurate

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>>172757807

Lokhir sadly didn't have lots of words written about him in the Black Library.

Hopefully we can also recruit legendary heroes and champions within an army (but doesn't lead) in 3rd game

>>172756495
Who the fuck is Nakai? Lord Kroak or bust. Agree with everything else besides Finubar, I wouldn't weep if he was in but I'd much rather Imrik or Eltharion.

>>172758397

Warhammer is getting a trilogy, yes. And they're working on a historical game in a period they havent used before.

>>172758434
a magical place known as youtube

>>172758397
Each game is stand alone expansion, that you can combine together for one ultimate game

>>172758412
/twg/ is /tg/'s vassal.

Anyone who demands that formations be included in TWW is a despicable human being.

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>>172757907
>>172758437
another

>>172758434

http://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-warhammer-beginners-guide/

This maybe?

>>172758552
A proper pike formation would be handy to have

>>172758424
see you are just a vampire reskin

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>>172758498
>>172758536
jesus christ is each one going to cost $70

>>172758471
Neither did Ghorst, and he made the cut. All bets are off. At least Lokhir got a model.

>>172758613
That works. I was hoping I could get the basic 4chan gestalt instead of something designed for idiots, but it'll do.

>>172758650

no of course not

they'll be 60 + 20 + 20 + 20 + 10

>>172758434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dQ-y4Xomdw&list=PLwVftHdWAdHNOJ-PMquSZMVVAGWIq2TVQ&index=1

>>172758650
Yes. And each will have its own subset of DLC.

>>172758650
took less than a year for the first game to become like 80% off

>>172758475
>Who the fuck is Nakai?
Fuckhueg Lizardman. Older than dirt, too. The reptile priests think he's a nature spirit. He sometimes shows up out of nowhere to fight in important battles, but at other times he's AWOL.

Basically he's the Lizardmen's version of the Green Knight.

Missed last thread

>Mazdamundi is most powerful Slann
>weakest Slann is more powerful than any other non-Slann mage

How will Mazdamundi be balanced without ruining the lore and essentially making lizardmen weaker than they are?

>>172756574
First of all, Lizardmen are Lawful Neutral, not good. Dark Elves most certainly are fucking Evil, just read up on them. High Elves I kind of agree tbqh, they are assholes but atleast they are ultimately good. Being a dickhead isn't a crime.

Greenskins are below Ogres though, they are Evil and I don't know why you feel Goblins are less evil than Orcs. If anything Goblins are MORE Evil than Orcs from what I've read. At least more Malicious.

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>>172758475

The one and only Kroxigor character ever made.

He will be in because Lizardmen society would simply not function without the whole All Races Working Together thing they've managed to make. All parts of their faction should be represented

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>>172758738
>>172758815
this level of kikery shouldn't even be possible

>>172756574
Wood Elves are assholes. Bretonnians will occasionally not be assholes.

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This autistic knight keeps going in and out of his fortress for all of his movement points

How to fix?

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>>172755635

>>172758437
>>172758585
Thank you kindly

>>172757068
>not cultivating an aesthetic blue line up the side of the map while Barak Varr fights savage orc shitters for you

>>172758865
That's cool and all but is he cooler than Lord motherfucking Kroak? No, he is not.

>>172758894
He won't be balanced, he will be fun instead.

But really, this expansion might end up being pretty silly given that Vlad and Grombrindal are both really OP and a lot of the characters in the factions being released are as OP if not stronger than they are.
>Teclis
>Mazdamundi
>Malekith
>Morathi
I just wonder if they're going to change magic up significantly or if they will just have really strong abilities instead.

>>172756574
>Bretonnians
>chivalrous dudes that will more than likely treat their opponents with honor and keep to agreement like a dwarf because to do otherwise would be dishonorable
>number six

You have to at least switch Bretonnians and Wood Elves around. Bretonnians have been all in all nice to the Wood Elves and tried to make friends with them, but they keep getting Wild Hunted. Wood Elves are overall neutral, but they are more than willing to harm others, and for a long time they struggled with Chaos taint.

>>172759024
Siege him.

>>172759023
As this anon said>>172758898
Being a dickhead isn't a crime
Thing that Bretonnia lords doing to there people, is a crime tho

>>172759043
post your drawing when you're done desu

>>172758949
Kroxigors are cool, but not as cool as Lord Kroak frankly. Not to mention that lord Kroak can have his own start position in Itza and is just the ultimate badass. I would like to see this Nakai in, don't get me wrong, but not before Kroak or Tehenhauin.

>>172755221
the beastmen call themselves the sons of chaos for a reason. They LOVE chaos, they want to please the gods as much as they can. Some of them are jealous of the warriors of chaos because the Gods only seem to care about what the mary sues do.

They are the chaos race that usually gets shit on, Archaon and other chaos lords subjugate herds by killing their leaders and then they use the herd as bait and fodder. It's kinda sad honestly.

>>172759270
I guess it's time for a Wild Hunt then

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>>172754012
>Warhammer II
WHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?

AHISTORICAL FANTASY SHIT AGAIN?

GIVE ME TOTAL WAR VIKING GAME OR A TRUE MEDIEVAL III

I AM SO MAD AT THIS

FUCK

>>172756067
This. People are saying how huge total war fans they are and dont keep up with their announcements even a bit

Is it ever worth taking a spellcaster lord and melee hero, over a lord meant for melee with a spellcaster hero?

>>172759397

Kroak is mad cool but should be the kind of lord that comes out as a absolute last resort when everything and everyone else is fucked. He shouldn't be brought out just to fix the Vortex I feel.

>>172759586
Do you know how CA is put together? No? Then don't post.

>>172756964
Yes, they can. It's in second Gotrek&Felix book.

>>172759586
They're releasing a new historical game in 2019, goof.

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>>172759757
>2019
by that time I will be fucking DEAD

>>172759586
>viking
>muh ancestor
if you want OP shit go play CK2

>>172759754

He asked if a human can deal with Skaven - not get suckered by them: we already knew that.

>>172759943

good

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>click on lizardman
>OUR COLD ONES LOVE BLOOD

>>172759629
I mean, if the Vortex is broken the world ends. Sounds like something he'd care about I feel.

>>172760061
>FOR THE TRIBE

So do you think they'll finally make the Chaos campaign interesting with the whole "vortex end-game" thing?

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>>172760004
Can humans deal with skaven? Of course they can!

>>172760094
>FWADA AMERICAN TRIBE
>ARRR (YOOU) READY DODOA PATH

>>172760061

>Click on Tehenhauin
>MOOOOOOOORE SSSSSSSSACRIFICESSSSSS
>Same VA from DoW

>>172760043
wow that's fucking rude.

>>172760152
No. But I'm sure even the old world chaos (undivided) campaign will get a rework with the third game. I mean everyone pretty much agrees it's garbage compared to the other campaigns, I'm sure they'll make it better. It's sort of placeholder for now.

>>172759369
O-ok

>>172760061
>click on saurus
>silence

>>172760347
clever girl

>>172756964
In one of the thanquol novels a man from araby runs a warpstone residue/opium den, he gets his supply from the skaven and in return they use the den to kidnap and threaten/bribe drugged up humans.

In the Queek Headtaker novel a brettonian mercenary says how there were childrens stories about ratmen offering deals and giving you riches for a terrible price. Being a filthy peasant he jumps at the opportunity to sell out the dwarfs to the skaven.

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>>172757475

For the other factions in game 3:

>The Green Knight, Bertrand the Brigand
>Grom the Paunch, Morglum Necksnapper
>Malakai Makaisson, Thorek Ironbrow
>Valten, Emmanuelle von Liebwitz
>Abhorash, Luthor Harkon

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>>172760168
M-M'lord! Help! Rats!

>>172760347

>Click on generic slann
>snores

>Play epic settlement defence battle where gelt gets 600 kills using magic
>get gets fears greenskins trait after the fight

>>172760548

>click on skink
>murloc noise

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>>172760496
The Green Knight is already in the game, though. I say replace him with either Tristan le Troubadour or Repanse de Lyonnesse. Maybe Bohemond Beastslayer if no one likes either of those.

>>172760658
>Gelt
>600 kills from magic
I'm calling shenanigans on your shit.

Teach me your secret if you're not lying

>>172760658
>hundreds of orcs charging at him while completely ignoring their own dead, an endless tide of roaring green flesh
Maybe he's just traumatised.

>high elves think the vortex keeping chaos magic from flooding the world is because of them
>they don't even know the Slann are the opens keeping it all together

Why don't the Slann just go "hey you know we're pretty much the main force against Chaos?" and then have the elves and hopefully everyone else go "oh shit wow we should work together."

They fight Chaos for 1000 years and don't even say anything

You a skink attendant. You were born to do a job, and that is to record the words of a Slann magelord.

Twelve hours every day without exception, you have gone into the chamber where the Slann is, switch out with the other shift of Skinks, placed diamond tips on your claws and prepared to write down anything they might say on a stone tablet. These words would be debated and analyzed by skink priests to interpret their meaning.

The Slann hasn't woken up in four thousand years. He hasn't said a single thing in all of that time.

The first decade goes by, and you begin to wonder how the other tens of thousands upon thousands of skinks thought about this job.

By the third decade you are dreaming the most bizarre and strange shit imaginable about what the Slann says

By the time you are about to die of extreme old age, you are hoping with the fervor of a zealot that you will hear a single thing, just one single thing from the figure that your life was centered around.

You die and never hear a thing.

>>172760939

They're too sleepy for diplomacy n'shiet

>>172760939

the slanns are clever and know that elf egos are not worth the effort of correcting

>>172760939
Slann don't like working with other races - they're disorderly.

But to be fair to the elves, their vortex is legitimately helping. Before they made it, the world was being flooded with daemons, and Lord Kroak died in one of those incursions. Between the Ulthuan vortex and the Albion one, the Slann get a lot more breathing room than they otherwise would have.

>>172761026

last thought was that it was all a great honor.

>>172761026
Lizardmen don't appear to die of old age
Saurus and Slann definitely don't, at the very least.

Are high elves British or Amerifats?

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>>172760939

Try speaking to one of those obscure frogs yourself.

They are alien creatures who don't understand the children of the Old Ones and were never really made to.

They can get along and have gotten along on occasion, but it's a serious struggle.

>>172761292

skinks do iirc

still get pretty damn old though

>>172761306

they are the eternal anglo

I wanna play greenskins but I dont want badlands bowl
need more horde factions

>>172761195

Yeah, they had their hands full dealing with like 80% of th demon invasion so they couldn't even begin to try and close the gates, so the elves really were life savers by then.

Once hell had stopped leaking everywhere and the frogs could afford to look around and check the vortex thing they thought it was a neat trick but it was clearly falling apart , so from that moment to the present day they help keep it stable.

I believe only Teclis is aware that there's someone else keeping their vortex from imploding.

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>>172761374
>he waited an entire month for an answer

Damn son.

>Try VC, never really cared for undead but only campagin I haven't done
>Remember reading here I should make a zombie army to die to get good raise dead options for my main army.
>Zombie army rampages, takes province in a few turns, and then I send them to fuck off and take over the border princes while Isabella and Vlad raid Stirland
>No one can stop the stupid zombie horde nor can I get a good raise marker

I'm not sure how I feel about this.

>>172760061
Does he have a skull tied to his dick cage

>>172761195
IIRC, the Slann had a hand in the making of both of those vortices.

>>172761737

this is warhammer. what does your heart tell you?

>>172754840
>high elves
>literally the only faction that has a single leader that cares about all the good races as a whole instead of only caring about themselves

regardless of how arrogant or annoying elves in general are, Teclis is a cool dude

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>>172761374

>beastmen come and raze my only military settlement on turn 8, 1 turn before the garrison & level 2 military building are complete
>entire campaign set back by 10 turns whilst I recolonize it and rebuild it

Not sure if I should just reload an earlier save at this point desu.

Having a campaign set back like this is shit because I have to play passive as fuck now because I didn't get strong enough quick enough to secure any NAP's

>>172761943

found the elf

>>172761549
>I believe only Teclis is aware that there's someone else keeping their vortex from imploding.

Do the other races know anything about the Slann beyond the fact that Lizardmen are mostly primitive zergers?

Mazdamundi went to go destroy a human settlement once, but I don't know any other occasion where a Slann participated in battle against the other races, let alone showing full power.

>>172761943
Karl Franz cares about other races too

>>172760939
They don't get around to interact much with other races. They mostly hang around in Lustria and the Southlands, far removed from everyone else who might have an interest in hearing them out. People who visit those places are typically only interested in taking stuff from them, so from the get-go the context isn't conducive to a discussion about stuff that pertains to the greater well-being of the world.

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So assuming the first LLs for Skaven are Skrolk and Thanquol, who will make it into the first DLC? A Queek and Ikit pack for the wars with the dwarfs or a Moulder pack with Thrott the Unclean?

>>172762087
unless you're a chaos fag nothing about teclis should annoy you

Lustria's hostile environment was a product of the power of the Slann during the First War Against Chaos. It wasn't just armies of lizardmen fighting the daemons, it was the jungle and its inhabitants as well.

No one remembered to turn it off.

The Lizardmen understand that the humans and dwarfs and elves are the rightful inhabitants of the world, but they were supposed to stay in their own places in the world. The elves in particular were told that they were not to leave Ulthuan on pain of death in exchange for their paradise.

So when people come to Lustria, get past all the death jungle and murder snakes and try to steal lizardmen relics, everyone gets really really mad.

>>172761374
so he's like an old lazy alcoholic pope in a situation similar to the crusades

>>172758650
Of course not. I'm paying 135£ each for the High King/Relic Priest/The Imperishable editions.

>>172762168

hell most slann barely interact with their own skinks, never mind other races

>>172762105
Does he really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0lWuJeaSv4&t=0s

>>172761943
Teclis set up his own niece to get kidnapped, get killed, get turned into a vampire, and then get killed again. You can argue that his intentions were good, but that's still not a nice thing he did.

>>172761374
While this is an interesting comic, it has a pretty big flaw: albino lizardmen are very much revered in their society, but the comic portrays the protagonist (an albino skink) as an unloved misfit.

>>172762168
>>172762357
Every races has a "fatal flaw" that prevents them from getting their shit together and saving the world properly

the lizardmen is that their leaders are completely autistic

>elves meet lizardmen for the first time
>slann says "they should not be here" after a long fucking time looking at them
>lizards think that means "kill all elves" instead of "take them away, they shouldn't be on this specific area of the world" or something

good job slann

>>172762182
Wouldn't be surprised if Skrolk is saved for a Lords Pack with Tehenhauin. Queek FLC for people who have both games so he can be played in the Old World.

>>172762357
Slann are busy eternally fighting vs warp chaos

>>172762182
Is that skaven with 4 arms?

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>>172762098
>so he's like an old lazy alcoholic pope in a situation similar to the crusades

Who likes to go on a spirit journey, yes.

The Old Ones were weird.

>>172762592
I'd say that's more on the skinks than the slann.

>>172762685

i didn't say they were wrong about it

>>172760939
Elves would just get butthurt and invade Lustria. It's better to keep them away from our sacred relics.

>>172762732
Moulder are the frankestein ones.

>>172762098

Only elves seem to have a rough idea, but they don't like to think that they're not the ubersmench when it comes to magic

>>172762757
if the slann communicated in more than a few words at a time this kind of shit wouldn't happen

>>172762332
A pope with a god that exists, which speaks to the frog using one letter a month while inciting lsd visions in its mind.

>>172762592
The Slann couldn't be bothered though, they're too busy trying to save the world from Chaos, and sleeping for centuries doing astral shit is a part of that.

Slann are more like "pff you have no idea kid" to everyone, probably including Teclis since he has no idea the importance of the Old Ones and their power, and they're probably right.

>>172762896

they're busy toads

>>172762857
RoR dlc for TWW2 going to be pretty good

>>172761306
Atlanteans.

>>172762896
And if the skinks weren't autistic and skittish fucks, this also wouldn't happen. I'm not saying that the slann are entirely absolved of guilt, but it's pretty unfair to place most of the burden on them.

>>172762592
The Slann aren't really 100% clear on how things should work anyway. The first generation is gone and there's nothing left of them, and everyone from the second generation onward can really only speculate on the Old Ones' plan--supposing that there even is a plan and that the Old Ones didn't just promptly pack their shit and leave when everything went to hell. They interpret old texts, tablets, rock carvings, oral traditions, and so on, and they try to figure out what the Old Ones want them to do, but there's not even a guarantee that the Old Ones even left anything that was meant to serve as instructions for what should be done to steer shit up in their absence.

>>172762592
What flaws the other races have? Standard elves are too proud, humans corruptable and dorfs too stuborn?

>>172761306
>Island nation
>Used to be best empire in the world
>Have colonies all around the world
>Best navy
>Master race
>Have evil rebels

Oh boy anon i don't even know

>>172761306
Hyperboreans

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>>172761383
>>172763048
>>172763184

But they have a red, white, and blue color scheme, a fetish for eagles, like to police the world, and probably can't even name half the countries on a map.

>>172763104
>The first generation is gone and there's nothing left of them

*raises skeletal finger*

You forgot about based Kroak, dumbass.

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>>172757573
>mfw

>>172762756

>Fat frogs bathing with amazons

P-Pics?

>>172763224
>later subsumed by their decadent, rebellious descendants
Nah, Ulthuan represents the UK for sure.

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>>172760760
They buffed vortex spells recently so they're actually decent.

Download the minor settlement pack mod and magic suddenly has a place where it's useful other than sieges.

Most of the maps are pretty well balanced, although the main problem is that the AI doesn't behave any differently despite the fact that you have more of an advantage now as defender.

That said, this 1 map, the rest of it is fantastic, but it has 1 small spot on it that's basically a small cliff with only 1 entrance.

I got attacked by full orc stack when I only had a tiny army because >>172762058 this happened so I couldn't recruit anything.

So I just placed my entire army on the little cliff with most of my melee dudes at the entrance and 1 or 2 to shield my mortar from their archers.

12-14 orc units all bunched up to try and get through my line along with an overcasted golden hounds got me 300 kills per cast.

I'm gonna leave feedback on the mod cos that 1 spot is OP as shit (pic related is the last siege I played on it, without using the retarded spot and gelt still got 260 kills which is decent).

I didn't take a screen of this one for some reason.

If you don't wanna download the map pack you can still easily get 200-300 kills on wizards in sieges if you play it right though.

>>172763229
*tips ethereal frog hat*

>>172763049

It can't be helped, the Skinks were never meant to be the guys in charge of society while the frogs sleep. They were never meant to have any religion outside of the Old Ones. They were never even meant to be warriors or be in the armies.

They're just trying to do the best they can under some pretty shitty circumstances, even if they can't really tell the difference between High Elves and Dark Elves and Wood Elves unless Chaos worship is happening. Their mindset is pretty alien when it comes to how a people can be so divided upon itself, especially when they themselves get along with so many different species.

>>172758552

Sweet gork n mork I do NOT miss having to micro formations.

>>172763224

just like the british

>>172761306
Consider that the Dark Elves are characterized as depraved and morally bankrupt exiles from their island nation and instead chose to form a new country in a land that is analogous to the American east coast.

>>172763178
dorfs are too stubborn, can't use magic, and their grudges will kill them if they don't act on them. They're also resistant to change, too resistant to it since it can take 80+ years for a 'prototype' to move on to the next phase of development.

Ogres are strong, fast, powerful, highly resistant to chaos... But dumb as shit.

>>172763104
Isn't Lord Kroak one of the original Slann?
The most powerful as well

>>172763350
And the slann's nature can't be helped either. They've been pushed into some very trying times, and chaos is taking a massive toll on their thought process and energy. Mind you, I'm not entirely blaming the skinks: they are just administrators, and they're working with what they have. But they're certainly culpable in a lot of fuck-ups.

>>172763510
Yes but he mostly suffers a case of being dead.

>>172763502
They aren't even dumb, just really, really fucking hungry, to the point where it dominates their whole culture and goals as a civilization.

>>172762516

He was being treated like that until he proved to be a complete retard.

>>172755341
They don't actually give a fuck about nature, they just hate the alternative.

>>172763605
No, they are pretty stupid. Greasus is one of the most intelligent ones and is pretty smart, but Ogres by and large are pretty fucking stupid.

>>172763621
I'd have to reread it then, but I feel like he'd still be revered. The lizardmen hold a very strong belief in fate and superstition, so I doubt that they'd back off a pretty well-founded tradition because one guy wasn't immediately useful.

>>172763510
Yeah he's of the first generation Slann, but he physically died and is only a spoopy ghostie now.

>>172763592
But he's not "really" dead. He is fighting against warp

>>172763510

He's also undead and not very talkative at the best of times. When he absolutely does have to communicate, his one of his choices is to possess a skink priest and talk through the skink priest.

This results in bizarre and incomprehensible things being said at the best of times.

>playing as the white dwarf (who is overpowered as fuck)

>kill greenskin prisioners
>get harsh trait (-1 to ALL provinces public order)

for fucks sake fine i'll go out of character

>let greensking shits prisioners go next batle
>get likes greenskin trait

WHAT IS THIS SHIT CA WHATEVER I DO I GET FUCKED?

>>172755345
T H R O T T H E U N C L E A N

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WHEN THE FUCK WILL CA MAKE A PROPER MOD MANAGER FUCKING HELL I HATE THIS STUPID ASS LAUNCHER THAT LISTS JUST 3 MODS AND HAVING YOU ARROW THROUGH THE 50 SO MODS YOU HAVE AND YOU CAN'T FUCKING CHANGE THEIR LOAD ORDER

FUCK FUCK FUCK IT'S FUCKING SUCKS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>172763510
He's also dead and has spent 99.9999999999% of the time since his death as an inanimate piece of interior decoration.

>>172756038
are these cunts actually useful for anything

>>172763502
>and their grudges will kill them if they don't act on them

What. How will it kill them? I thought that grudges are just part of their culture not some biological mechanism like eating, that they have to satisfy or will die.

>>172763510
He's from the first wave of slann, which had contact with the Old Ones. But the guy's only nominally alive: he's a fucking skeleton with a spirit that only remembers one spell (admittedly, it's a really fucking good spell).

>>172755635
Someone post the Pontus version

>>172763502
>can't use magic

Well they can, but it turns them into statues over time. Runes are much safer, and are basically compartmentalized spells anyway.

>>172762592
Parallels with the emperor from 40k. Remnants from a long gone golden age, powerful as fuck Slann battling chaos with their minds, everyone misinterpreting their shit. Hell, Kroaks even dead like the emprah.

>>172763746

It's not like they didn't believe he'd eventually be useful, they just gave up trying to find his purpose in life and just carried on laughing at his stupidity while waiting for his fate to happen. Even skins got limits you know.

Mundizuma was the one who got impatient and went to the effort to wait for Slann confirmation.

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>yfw Slann could be immensely more powerful and defeat Chaos entirely if they remembered all the shit they forgot during the thousand-year war with Chaos

>>172763861
Maybe move over to managing via userscript.txt

>>172764113
I just believe that it's an inaccurate portrayal of the lizardmen, but at this point it seems we're bound to disagree.

>>172763775

>He's also undead

Bitch please, only sissies like Nagash need undead to keep on rocking after biting it. He's straight up dead and can still be considered to be top 3 wizard in the planet.

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>>172764192
HOLY FUCK I FORGOT YOU CAN DO THAT SHIT FUCK I'M FUCKING RETARDED FUCK FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>172763775
>>172763924
>>172763969
but isn't he STILL even "dead", one of the strongest magical creatures in the warhammer world?
I'm not talking about gods, just the "mortals".
He even taugh fucking knife ears how into magic

formations when

>>172764454
never

>>172764365
He's incredibly powerful and incredibly limited since he only remembers one spell. Again, it's a good spell, but that can only take you so far. It's also worth noting that, in general, slann are the preeminent figures with regards to magic.

>>172764454
tomorrow

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but any ideas on who the Legendary Lords for the Skaven will be?

I would normally say Thanquol, but I'm guessing since this is the new world they will be focusing on Clan Pestilens.

Though considering how popular Thanquol is, I can see CA shoving him in there for the sake of it. I mean, this is the same guy that a Slann of all things let live because of how much he would fuck over his own race.

>>172764641

>but any ideas on who the Legendary Lords for the Skaven will be?

My guesses are Lord Skrolk and Thanquol

>>172764306
>top 3 wizard in the planet.
He's in his own category, top 1.

Anyway isn't a youngest generation Slann stronger than Teclis or Nagash?

>>172764743
>isn't a youngest generation Slann stronger than Teclis or Nagash?

Not quite.

What's the most badass unit in tabletop, Kroxigors or Minotaurs?

>>172764743
Probably Teclis, but Nagash is really fucking good.

>>172764743
Named characters > generic characters

>>172764743
Teclis and Nagash are pretty much the toppest tier of mages alongside Kroak

>>172764520
He can do more than just blow shit up. It's just that he typically opts for resolving situations by exploding them away.

>>172755345
>Skreech and Skrolk as starting Skaven LLs

It's more likely Skrolk and Thanquol, given how the latter has his fuckhuge ratogre to ride around and be a melee combatant with.

>>172764831
Minotaurs are better than Kroxigors if I remember right

>>172765039
Really? I'll have to reread some things then. I could've sworn the army book said that Kroak forgot just about everything besides deliverance.

>>172764743
Nagash is pretty up there, it depends on whether or not he has all of his artifacts with him too. But still, there's a reason why he is considered the big baddy of the setting (aside from horned guy with daddy issues).

I mean, he was such a threat that the fucking Skaven united and aided another race to try to stop him. Whenever that shit happens, you know the person responsible is pretty fucked up.

>>172764842
>>172764743
>>172765001

Nagash is essentially unkillable and he's without question the most potent user of Dhar/Necromancy, but he's kinda overrated when it comes to pure magical muscle (still top tier, mind you)

It's not until End Times that he gets super roided out and leaves Teclis in the dust.

>NOW however we are at the point were we can add WALLS, WALL TOWERS, GATE etc
God is great

>>172755345
>>172765095
>has his fuckhuge ratogre to ride around

Speaking of Boneripper, any guesses on what version CA will use?

>>172765153
He shows off some more stuff in The End Times. I'm not sure if that's still treated as a hot potato, though. Feel free to dismiss it if you like.

>>172765357
Probably the classic undead looking one, I can't see them using end times stuff.

>>172765350
in what context?

>>172765409
I haven't looked too far into the End Times, so that must be it. I honestly like the idea of him being more than a meme wizard with one spell.

>>172765445
Custom maps

>>172765427

I believe Boneripper had more than just those two versions, given how it kept dying.

>>172765357
>>172765427
Honestly, I wouldn't mind them using the End Times version. It isn't a bad model, and it does work more as an impressive monster than the classic one.

Though I am leaning more towards them using the older one. Though probably giving it a bit of a re-imagining considering it is a bit dated.

>>172765445
Probably talking about custom map editing.

>>172765606
>>172765660
nice.

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While it would be a nice thing for all the races of Order to get together and kinda get working along, there's a problem with it.

Sure, Imperials and Bretonnians and Estalians and Tileans and Dwarfs and High Elves have all worked together. There's a little problem with Lizardmen, even if certain people have managed to get along with them for their ends.

Look at the left. Almost everyone in the Old World and Ulthuan knows about the left. Just about every soldier has fought against one of the Beastmen.

Now look at the right and try to figure out how to sell it to the masses that the right one hates Chaos and has nothing against the realms of Order.

Without being burned to ash for being a fucking chaos mutant lover.

>>172765357
I bet he's going to ride on the back of a normal rat-ogre sized boberipper, the 12th most probably

just because this way CA can use the same animations for other bonebreaker ratogres or just the same animations for ratogres in general

>>172763939
I like to imagine dwarfholds collapsing in cycle of unhappiness causing infighting causing more unhappiness if the honor isnt clean

>tfw was getting excited for fantasy naval battles with sea monsters and magic
>read news that they are autoresolve only

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UfT0jVzNkw

>>172765803
People of the Empire - This lizard is your FRIEND - He fights for FREEDOM

alternatively point out to everyone that the twin tailed comet is also a big deal to the lizards as well

>>172765890
Source?

>>172765803

real easy: just stay out of lustralia. there's nothing there but malaria and poisonous snakes anyway. certainly no gold or ""lizard people""

>>172765357
presumably they will give him a slightly-unique one, and have it utilize the same/similar animations to ones that other lords will have available to mount, similar to deathclaw/imperial griffon

>>172765890
its 29.99 dlc for naval combat update
theres not enough important races to make dlc for so gotta do something else

>>172766038
im gonna make parodies of those posters

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>"Hi Anon!"
>"I was wondering if you could show me your favorite game, since I'm kinda' new to this whole 'gaming' thing..."
>"It won't be too complicated, will it?"

>>172766110
Not that anon, but they put up an FAQ and confirmed naval battles are all auto-resolve.

Honestly it makes sense considering the navies were never really fleshed out at all. Not to mentioning balancing would be hell, but still somewhat disappointing.

I hope the Black Arks are at least a battle map or something.

>>172766110
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-warhammer-ii-coming-soon/

it needs to be added to the op for future threads

>>172765659
thanquol has had a total of 13 different rat ogre bodyguards during his life, all named boberipper because he's that creative

we have depictions of at least 3 versions
a 3 armed ratogre with a large horn
a reanimated ratogre skelebot (which is actually what was left of his first bodyguard)
and the 4 armed giant of the end times

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>>172765890
it would be an insane amount of work and effort done right, and even then it would be impossible to balance.

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>>172766038

That is a hard sale for an average man all the same.

It will be much harder for an average High Elf who is a snob beyond measure.

>>172766110
>>172766284
>Is naval combat happening?
>Only in autoresolve. Warhammer Fantasy Battles is principally a game about land warfare, so that’s where we’re choosing to focus our efforts in terms of full battle simulation. There are some new sea-related campaign features that we will detail in the future.

For those who don't want to bother with the link.

>>172754012
What mod in the Rome pic? I don't remember it looking that good

>>172765803
What's the point of having a huge blade sticking out from the armor on your belly?

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>>172766241
It's called hide the pickle and it's as hard as you make it, baby.

>>172766395
Yeah I didn't understand how people would think they would work. Like I do think it would be cool, but considering some races have cannons on their boats, and the others have shit all I don't see how real-time naval combat would work out well.

>>172766526
It's a dick thing. Note the two heads dangling below.
Or they like stabbing shit by any means possible. Note the bloody helmet spike and horns.

>>172766241
You made me remembered on when my cute little sister suddenly asked me to teach her playing Shogun 2

I just answered "Seriously?" and keep playing. She never asked me that again. How stupid I am.

So if the Slann are all as autistic as the anons here are making them out to be. On a scale of 0 to 10 how hilarious are Mazdamundi's quest battle speeches going to be?

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>>172766241
Nah, you just run around and shoot things, very simple ;-)

>>172766738
The Slann aren't autistic as much as they are lethargic and taciturn.

>>172766408
Yeah but at least High Elf is smart, unlike average man

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>mfw no historical

>>172765803
>While it would be a nice thing for all the races of Order
age of sigmar pls go

>>172766738

the slann is just gonna sit there while their skink attendant gets the rest of the skinks riled up

the saurus watch on quietly

>>172766408
>>172765803
>>172766038

Notice how the Khorne Bloodletter and Saurus anatomy resemble each other thanks to the quirk of chaos to imitate real things.

>>172766738
>...Naiiiiiiiiilcoatz
>Yes, lord Mazdamundi?
>I saw a fish. ... that, that is all, you can leave now.
>Very well lord Mazdamundi.

>...Naiiiiiiiiiiilcoatz
>*Sigh* Yes, lord Mazdamundi?
>I've got a bitch of an itch on my left ass cheek.

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>>172766526

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G O B L I N S

>>172765803
Didn't the Undead occasionally help the realms of order against Archaon's bully legions?

Compared to that Lizardmen would be A-okay, no?

>>172765803
>and try to figure out how to sell it to the masses that the right one hates Chaos and has nothing against the realms of Order.


>march on the battlefield where order and chaos are fighting
>have the skink herald shout in frog-speak
>"fuck chaos"
>start the systematic eradication of chaos

>>172766738
>I remember an Oldblood Saurus warrior in the time before the coming of Chaos
>He was a real reptile, unlike you chickenshits
>Some Nurgle daemon breathed on him and he puked his liquefied guts out until he died
>He was a good friend
>anyways let's go get this artefact

>>172767043

>...Naiiiiiiiiiiilcoatz
>Yes, Lord Mazdamundi
>I saw an elf. It was pretty.
>...
>Kick its ass
>At once Lord Mazdamundi, I will send lord Kroq-Gar on his way.

>>172767043
>Left ass cheek is obviously symbolic for southwestern Lustria, the enemy must be there!
>a sneaky army of Skaven get suddenly engaged by a throng of lizards while Mazdamundi continues to suffer from his itching buttock

>>172766668
You didn't ask her another Tim if she still wanted to learn?

>>172765803

>be empire state troop
>about to get turned into red paste by an unholy monstrosity of chaos
>all of the sudden you see an obese toad lick his eyelid
>the unending horde of armored chaos warriors that was once before instantaneously disappears
>"Are we sure that we can trust these guys?"

>>172767170
Depends on who is leading them. Vlad is the reasonable sort who could see there are greater things at stake. Nagash is an arrogant prick who would only do so when the world is literally on the brink of ending.

As for Tomb Kings sort of undead, they kind of just keep to themselves for the most part. Only really venturing out when people steal their shit. I mean Settra said fuck you to Chaos, but that was when they tried to take advantage of him.

>>172767170
And even during the End Times sigmar cult bitched out and refused to work with Balthazag Gelt when he started using necromancy, leading to chaos invasion into the Empire.

>>172765803
There's some telltale differences, but skaven and beastmen are creations of chaos and lizardmen, humans, elves are creations of the old ones. The undead are a creation of man since we're mortal.

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Instead of Surtha Eks chariot spam we will now get TWICE THE FUN! WITH 20 DOOMWHEELS YOU CANT GO WRONG! ROLING OVER MAN-THINGS ALL DAY LONG

>>172767492
>implying chaos chariot spam will even hold a candle to the ben-hur shit that will be going on in the land of the dead

>>172767492
>>172767568
The only reason Norscans spam chariots is because that's literally the strongest unit they can afford, their infantry options being limited to shitty marauders. I don't think armies with more balanced rosters will be engaging in such memery.

>>172767708
they should limit the availability of chariots to two per army, and the same for skirmisher cav. Would make for less annoying battles

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>>172767568

GET OUT OF MY FUCKING DESERT FUCKING BRATS AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

>>172767323
>Nailcoatz: What do you want?
>Malekith: Ah, good skink, you could say I am looking for technical support.
>Mazdamundi: Naiiiiiiiiiilcoatz, do we have a visitor?
>Nailcoatz: Yes sir.
>Mazdamundi: Naiiiiiiiilcoatz, take his coat.
>Malekith: I don't have a coat.
>Nailcoatz: He doesn't have a coat sir. And I believe this is the elf that basically killed our entire race.
>Mazdamundi: Naiiiiiiiiilcoatz. Don't take his coat.

>>172767903
*faint trumpet toots in the distance*

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS! HYUEHYUEHYUEHYUHEYUEHYEHGHUU

MY ____ THIRSTS FOR ____

>>172768024
>Malekith: You see, I recently acquired what you people refer to as "Vortex". But I'm having trouble getting it to do what I want.
>Nailcoatz: Did you try working the shaft?
>Malekith: Classy.
>Mazdamundi: Naiiiiiiiiilcoatz, what does he want?
>Nailcoatz: He's asking how to use the Vortex.
>Mazdamundi: Did you tell him to work the shaft?
>Nailcoatz: Yes lord Mazdamundi.
>Mazdamundi: Good work Nailcoatz.

S T O R M F I E N D S

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>>172767043
What's all of this? Is it a reference?