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SOON:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=905
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=903

Previous Thread: >>172499960

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=899

>Events:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=869
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=900

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt


>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse(Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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That was close!
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>Refresh thread
>Last post is NEW BREAD
>Archived

Worried me for a second there, thanks threadanon.
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THANKS
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ded
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>quick awakening

how this works? does it costs more materials?
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5 OUT OF 12 HOLY SHITTO
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Stat rework when?!
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>>172716716
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>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=905
>Dungeon changes
>"Looks like our game is so dead getting 5 plebs for a dungeon is an achievement for out players, how we can make more people playing our game?"
>"Just allow our cows to matchmaking with 2 or 4 people"
>"You are genious"
>EXP tome changes
This is good
>DPK explained
It's basically random based now
>map and marker
Minor quality of life and new players warning
>guild change
90% of iToS guilds can't already reach 20 active players, on Fedimian there is only 1 guild in the whole server with more than 15 players playing the game, it's a pointles change unless they want to push a massive guild merging to clean up the database from the hundreds of 5 man guilds
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>>172717845
>Revised Top-Down DPK System

>The revised system combines DPK and drop rates in the following formula:

>1 / (set DPK value – current no. of monsters defeated)

>This means that, if a monster’s DPK value is 100, every time you defeat one monster the drop rate will change from 1/100 to 1/99, to 1/98 and so on. In other words, there’s a chance the monster will drop the item even before you defeat 100 of them.

Why the fuck did these sadistic asshole not have it work this way in the first place
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>>172718347
It's better now but it's just % based with forced welfare drop
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>>172718347
Reminder that they dont mention this changes the DPK value

meaning that items with 20 000 DPK value are now literally 0.002% and every kill only increases it every so fucking slightly

not a big change until we know what the DPK values are of all items

the dungeon change is good, Id rather 2 man a dungeon with 5 hammer alts than wait 20 minutes for 5x faggots to show up via shouts
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>>172718347
>mfw the drops I need are still purely percentage based with 1 percent chance of dropping
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Vaidotas will ruin my life
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does this new DPK thing mean that every time you kill 100 mobs all drop chances increase 1%?

does it reset once you get a drop? is it unique for all drops?

I dont get it
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>>172719134
Yes
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>>172719049
Try doing it while NOT being a Pyrolinker with Agni.
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>>172719425
what?
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>>172719603
Yes.
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>>172719603
Just kill them, the more you kill the higher drop chance, once item drop it reset back to 0%
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>>172719134
It seems to imply that for a specific monster's DPK value, it will decrement by 1 for each of that monster you kill. Not necessarily 1% per 100 mobs, depends on the DPK value, and seems to be for that specific monster only.
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>>172719887
I still dont get it.
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Is this the new method of (((trading)))?

Really REALLY highball an offer for something in the shout, then go "lol I sold that." I don't think a Chaser is actually worth that, but sheesh.
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what are badges for?
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>>172720387
Lets say a Popolion drops an item at a DPK of 400.

0 popos killed = 1/400 chance of it dropping
50 popos killed = 1/350 chance
etc.

When the item drops it would reset to 1/400 chance and continue again.
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>>172720506
Battle Bracelet for trash spears
What the fuck?
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>>172720624
what are some important item DPK values? how does this differ with the current system?
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My cleric, my falcon and 2 wizards got their Practornium between 2-5 days
Dragoon got it after 30 days
Templar already opened it 35 days too

Does Swordman have lower chance to get it?
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>>172720719
Some are on tosbase, but I think they were only found out through trial and error or something. No way to tell if they'll change with the new update too.

The old system is that it is impossible for the monster to drop the item before its DPK value is killed. So a DPK of 10000 means 10000 of that enemy must die before the item will drop once, and servers/channels going down reset the DPK value since it wasn't individual based. The new system seems to be indvidiual based though.
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>>172721335
what a fucking faggot. what is his problem, is he gay?

everyone knows traps are straight guys fetish
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>>172721335
>that screaming
autism
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>Honey isn't at bees anymore

I hate this life
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>>172721454
gay faggot detected
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>>172721554
fuck off beta orbitting faggot
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>>172721146

My fencer got it fast ~20 days.
My falconer take 4 fucking months.
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>my crafting suddenly stops

what
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>>172722146
Happens sometimes, I've found closing the inventory and recipe windows seems to help prevent it from happening.
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>>172717845
They want all the small guilds to merge. A bunch of them may only have 10 active players, but they've got a big list of inactives. The size increase means no more kicking inactives, and merged guilds have a chance at reaching critical mass and sustaining themselves better.
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>>172722146
IMC fixed it. Then they fucking UNfixed it. As well as made pretty much any channeling skill stop dead in its tracks for literally no reason.

I bugged Mango about it when he was attention whoring in town. He immediately logged out the moment I mentioned it.
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>>172722421
>A bunch of them may only have 10 active players
Thats the majority of guilds in iToS right now
A buch of guilds actually have 20+ people
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>>172722397
>>172722547

Oh I see. The inventory trick helped a bit but it's still annoying.

I think it has something to do with ping oscilation / bad connection.
I will try later with my VPN on and without watching dotes at twitch
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>>172722146
>>172722547
https://github.com/Grita/craftqueue
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>>172719887
>for a specific monster's DPK value, it will decrement by 1 for each of that monster you kill.
No, the "DPK value" doesn't change. The drop rate, which is separate, increases by 1/value.

Calling the value DPK is ridiculous since this new system is random, not DPK, but IMC speaks Korean so they're just imitating the forum.
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>>172722771

This is great. Thanks, anon!
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>>172722146
>>172722547

Funny thing: I got THIS wonderful bug (introduced at the same time they broke everything again) about two hours into a five hour crafting session. I restarted & found that all the crafting actually got done in that state.

wtf, get your shit together, kim.
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>>172723003
>>172722771
Hail based Grita
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>>172715954
>Removed the image folder from OP

Rude.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/z5azfwcrwly8w5x/Lolipan%27s+tosg+folder.rar
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>>172724008
kill yourself
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>>172712013
R9 isn't going to change them at all.

Fact is if you went Corsair you chose C3 at R8 most of the time.

It's shit. It's utter fucking shit of a class. Nothing redeems it. It's weaker than Dragoon, Fencer, Murmillo and Doppel. It beats none of them in anything.

R9 won't add anything unique that would save corsair. How do I know? Look at the end classes:

>Dragoon
Get's C3

>Doppel
Get's new 2H sword class

>Fencer
Gets new Rapier class

>Murmillo
C2's

>Corsair
???

NOTHING. If you went Corsair on R7 it just means you're just a weaker lancer or murmillo. Picking Dop, Fencer or Lancer won't change anything.

Bottom line is the class is a waste of fucking space and a PvP meme + silver meme.
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>>172721454
>traps are straight guys fetish
no they are not you fucking millenial faggot
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Futureproof is recruiting. Send ApplyAFineHorse3 a friend request now, or whisper tomorrow when I'm on. Unfortunately for the lively world GvG scene, we'll be laying eggs next week, but anyone who wants a war afterwards can say that to my 2D sprite face, not offline and see what happens.
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>>172724498
I want to lay eggs inside of Triela.
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>>172724008
ur gone. ur ded. let it go
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>Dragoon C3
>Murmillo C2
>Mergen C2
>Inquisitor C2
>Taoist C2
>Plague Doctor C3
>Warlock C3.
>Sage C2.
>Enchanter C2.
etc.

Which one of these do you think will be insanely overpowered? Think outside the box. Every class will get 1 or 2 new skills. Dethrone goes up in levels. PD gains even more damage and possible mask interactions. Murmillo stays relevant thanks to % modifiers but what new skills might the faggot class get? Taoist gets more insane? Enchanter gets +1000 lightning buff / shops get even crazier?

Will Swords get a 2nd Secret Class (Samurai)?
Will Clerics always be OP?
Will C3 Templars gain anything worth? Obviously they locked.

R9 is going to be a huge patch. I'm guessing all 4 classes (wizard, sword, cleric and archer) gain +1 new class. But right now I feel like the game is adding too much flood. They haven't even balanced classes or fixed shit in over 1 year.

For example Corsair is still a piece of shit class. Catapract has been altered so many times now it's retarded. Doppel nerfed more often than you can imagine. Highlander already got minor changes that meant fuck all. Barbarians got stupid fucking tweaks.

Elementalist is still shit and in the gutter with skills that do fucking nothing. Alchemist damage skills are piss poor expecially since you unlock a literal magic missle at R8 while Appraiser gets a 100% critical skill and is a one circle hidden class with support utility while alchemist has zero support utility. Thauma buff scaling with 15% of INT is nice but still kind of shit.

etc. etc. I wanna hear what you think will stay SHIT and how much new SHIT will they add.
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>>172724218
Then a gunslinger bandit class come out and suddenly Corsair3 won't look that bad
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>>172724218
>>Doppel
>Get's new 2H sword class

i think all of doppel's skills dont require 2H sword so expect another class that isnt 2H sword specific.
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>>172725501
>dont require 2H sword
I'd be OK with this. I love 2H sword as a design, but since we can't use OVERPOWERED MDEF shields it's not worth the trade.

They should just delete 2H swords entirely and make 1H swords more powerful
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>>172725460
I'd rather have a Samurai hidden class that uses 2H swords. It has to happen since we already have Shinobis (Ninjas).

Samurai would have Seppuku (inflict damage to yourself > trigger deeds > trigger 100% crit chance for 40 seconds > make STR viable again!) and cool hits for 199k crits and shit and SHIT AND SHIT IT WILL FUCKING SUCK IF YOU ARE A DOPPEL UR STUCK SPINNING FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE
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>>172725453
Sage2 could have some weird new gimmick skills, but knowing IMC and the past months.. its probably gonna be shit.

>Enchanter gets +1000 lightning buff
will probably be not a lot.. vs rank9 mobs+bosses
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give the secret classes more circles so that corsair3 at r7 can transition into shinobi2 at r9.

chaplain and even runecrafter would love to have another circle.
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>>172725453

Sage c2 might get a boost on the ultimate dimension increasing of aoes (not onle size, like, 40% bigger, but also a damage boost to shit), maybe a interaction with blink's clone and some sort of bonus damage on cloned stuff with micro dimension based on micro dimension's attack (which is pretty high). so basically one new skill to detonate blink or wormhole (quick in/out teleport) and attributes that justify leveling the damage skills. Also, I feel that missile hole might get nerfed to the point of only c2 will be good enough to keep it up (while sage c1 MH will be some sort of well timed shield easy to bait out).

c3 will bring black hole, a much more cancerous magnetic force.

Dragoon 3 get the mighty jump skill and a real attribute to Gae Bolg.

>warlock 3

I hope it turns into a purely pvp class, not a PVE meme shit (maybe keep the power to farm low level monsters). Maybe the ability to detonate spirits into small poles of agony? Maybe summon a evil demon from the pole itself

>taioist c2

this is the class that imc can go more batshit with lots of new chi buffs and meme new talismans

>pd 3

this one will be the one with the weakest new skill because disenchant lv 10 alone will be a thing, plus, 10 gas/15 incineration/15 HF is too good already.

>inquisitor

c1 will be nerfed, c2 will keep the power up a bit but I'm not sure if pears will get a +5, maybe the skill will be reworked to always drop 5 traps and only gets more damage from levels. Iron Maiden skill.

>murm c2
only one new skill, more numbers in the rest. the class is godly good for a c1 (lots of r9 swordies build will end up with c1 murm purely for the helmet), c2 will be trashy - c3 will carry the best stuff at r10 (and to make c1 murms purely for the helmet build look weak.
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>>172725598
>but since we can't use OVERPOWERED MDEF shields it's not worth the trade.
SHUT UP AND BE HAPPY WITH THESE -4K MATK SWORDS! FUCKING WHITE PIGS STOP CRYING!
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>>172726251
what? those swords are literally just for skins. the damages on them are terrible.

Unless they add hunting grounds for 330 soon it doesnt matter.

DEEDS MAKES DOPPELS CRY
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>>172726154
>give the secret classes more circles
unlikely. its the concept of them to be 1circle wonders. to bad some/many of them suck dick.
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>>172724218
It's honestly likely that R9 swordsmen won't be weapon-specific, because IMC has too many weapon-restricted swordsmen at this point, they need options.

Doppel and Fencer are already C3 too, so R9 is the perfect time to introduce it.
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>>172725919
And what it has to do with fixing Corsair?
New Jolly Roger and new Pistol Shot attribute are good, it only needs a pistol user rank 9 now
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>>172726930

anything r9 with deeds will be good, even better if it has slash. remember qc being mandatory for wizard dps not pyromancer? well, that's deeds 15 for swordsman r9

anything r9 with a pierce skill not spear locked will be broken on epee gard steroid (this thing WILL be nerfed, epee is so fucked up that they decided to not give a new rapier LOL. even deeds 5 on top of this + new rapier will be fucked up
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>>172725919
Doppels gives no shit
They already score damage cap on Gale Slasher, if they trascended it they won't even need to replace their 315 weapon because it would be pointless
>deeds+mole+stage 6+ Gale Slasher
>spin
>constant crit for 199k
Doppel3 can literally chose whatever they want at rank 9 and don't bother looking for a new weapon too, it won't matter unless mobs and boss will have an absurd high physical defense but armor breaks are a thing so it doesn't matter again
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>It's another "Some swordfag thinks he knows how to be a cleric better than you" episode
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>>172727139
One R9 swordsman being slash-based and the other being pierce-based sounds good honestly, since strike-users would've gone Murmillo already too.
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>>172727319
They'll probably raise the cap damage again though.
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>>172727321
>Enemy has a gorillion buffs
>Teammate hooks him
>Proceeds to do fucking nothing
>Gohei him next time
>"noooooooooo, don't do that"
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>>172727448
Look at Gale Slasher or Sarkmis attack trascended and add Deeds+mole
They can raise the cap today and you would see Doppels spinning for 299k already
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>>172727463

>Caring about buffs when you can just kill him with malleus -> hanaya

>but ausrine

so the hook is there only eating aus time up, setup your diev stuff and get in position to gohei the priority target
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>>172726237
Sage might ending be a one circle wonder with microdimension cloning rank9 wizard stuff
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>>172725919
STR won't be viable until trascendence gets not nerfed but killed
Stage10 now is +100% damage, +10% damage per stage
Shards are untradable again
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why we are having such good conversations, ideas and even a fair discussion about the future?

no doomposting, people sharing addons, tips and etc.

Ok, I'll shitpost now, but this only happens when the majority of the
>muricans from klaipedo

are asleep
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>>172725453
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>>172727891
Because you're all cucks and not realistic.
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>>172727851
Or, you know, until the rework stats and the damage formula completely, which is what they are doing.
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>>172728420
>They give you a single stat potion to readjust
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>>172728420
How they can rework stats when trascendence exist?
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>>172727321
>His only "kill" is the enemy dying on your R7x when attacking him
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>>172729030
>complains about how stats works
>complains when they try to fix
Can't win with you people.

>>172729270
They are reworking that too at the same time, read the latest korean news.
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>xhe really believes "rework" means IMC will make it 'good'
you can't be that new
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>>172729318
>Can't win with you people.

When literally everything they do is one-step-forward-three-steps-back, then yes. There is no winning.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaHUIaXQrug

>Stage 9 Lolopanther Rapier
I can only imagine once this guy gets Solmiki Rapier.
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>>172729545
Fucking this. Rework means different kind of shittyness.
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>>172720506
Geras spear value would be comparable to bb. I sold one for 8m last week.
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>>172732090
But why?
Inferior to Maga
Inferior to HG spears
Inferior to Brandish too
If you are serious about using 1h spear+off hand you craft a Practonium spear
>muh +spear throw
Literally fuck nothing
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>>172732090
It's not, not even close.
Congrats for selling one for such an overpriced price though
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>>172732841
It's pretty much just because the gimmick in 2nd Demon Prison went full retard
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>>172733105
And? That doesn't make Geras more worth than 500k at best
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>Another quest where you have to use a item with a cast time and cooldown on an enemy without killing it while it tries to kill you
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I've been gone for a while. What happened to Clover?
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>>172734820
dead, first it merged with Ohayou then it died and it merged with CnL, which isn't really /tosg/ anymore
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>>172734820
gone
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>>172726327
I fon't think you understand. Due to IMC coding negative matk is mdef...
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>>172735331
You aren't even trying anymore are you?
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>>172736553
Yep, he is wrong.

negative matk actually bugs the game and gives you 32.767 matk
free stage10 + cards_stacking

but dont report this bug please
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>>172737194
32 matk isn't that high dude...
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>>172737389
well sorry, buddy. im no whale ;_;

fucking shit is everyone here p2w by now?
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>tfw slight richer
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>>172738312
How much did you sell it for?
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>>172741274
30 millions of kim bucks
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>24 posters
You're fucking dead. Get out of /vg/. You're not a general, you're a copse.
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Futureproof is recruiting.
See OP for more information.
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>>172741881
We are just busy playing the game to actually post
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>>172741881
Unique poster passing by.
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>>172741881
I was asleep, anon.
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I just joined the wugushi club. What's a good card to keep in the pot?
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>>172741881
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>>172746551
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>>172746551
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>>172746551
Honeypin for GvG (lol), Reaverpede for general play.
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>>172747918
>>172748310
>>172748546
Noice. Thanks!
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>>172741392
Pretty decent. Should be good for attributes.
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>>172749283
How dare you reply to me.
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>>172750109
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>>172750915
DAMN chloe moretz looks like THAT?
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>>172751645
That is the Chloe Moretz in the alternate timeline where she DOESN'T look like a fridge
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>>172751940
Chloe Moretz has a hard life. Sexually abused as a child, disgusting body as an adult. At least she could probably coast off the child prostituting money for the rest of her life.
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Is the game playable now?
I played at the launch.
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>>172752180
Compared to the launch, the game runs much better now and with less bugs, but it's far from being satisfactory. But, the game is broken since transcendence.
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>>172752180
It's improved in how it runs, but that's probably because there's only 10 players left so it's impossible for there to be enough people on the screen to drop your FPS.
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>>172752404
nah, there's more than ten. there's like eleven
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>>172752404
Fps is fine
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Luchador?
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>>172752723
The stuttering is the issue
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Is Dina Bee safe to afk in now?
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Why aren't you playing Wugushi, anon?
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Hey /tosg/, I'm making a pyro2linker2thauma2enchanter and I've noticed that linking mobs and killing them with my dagger is really, really fun. On the other side, melting bosses with fireballs is also good too.

Will I be fucked if I this character to full DEX or should I get good gloves with accuracy gems? Without adding matk from base and equipments INT, I'd have ~1,3k MATK (full DEX) or ~2,3k MATK (full INT) with maxed buffs and attributes using a Windia Rod +6 with lvl 6 blue gems. My main concern is if this enough to break the mdef wall in R8 maps.
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>>172756098
kek
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>>172754614
Antidotes, damage overwriting, shit costume
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>>172756661
>damage overwriting
That was fixed, not dots stack.
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>>172756821
If they do why then does literally every other damage debuff in the game get overwritten by other players?
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>>172756661
>shit costume

But that's a lie.
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>>172756909
because that's not fixed yet.
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>>172756909
Because you went around saying it was a reason not to play wugushi instead of a universal problem.
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>>172756661
>Antidotes
Not an excuse.
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>>172757351
>Not an excuse.
Not an argument.
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>>172757351
autopot.ipf
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>>172757885
>necro farming not allowed
>but autopot is allowed of course :^)
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>>172756098
you dont need dex, dummy
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>>172759528
He wants to crit with his dagger.
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>>172758565
Murder is allowed if you don't get caught
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>>172759528
>>172759606
B-b-but my accuracy...
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>>172759606
>>172756098
>DEX
>Wiz
>crit with his dagger.
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What's exactly the point of kino teleport? Every build has maxed or near maxed teleport, and it seems pretty useless. Animation takes so long it's not even worth using for traveling.
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>>172759784
It's an autoattack build. If you get chrono skills you can crit at incredible hihg speed.
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>>172759758
>accuracy
>wiz
>dagger
>dex

no, baka.
my full INT and full CON wizards dont miss with daggers. dont go dex
(and that does shitty dmg at high lvl anyways. even if you make a special snowflake build around it)
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>>172759842
Have you seen these fucking maps? Being able to jump a gap instead of having to run all the way around is invaluable. You can skip through certain doors too.
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How much is a complex gear nowadays?
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>>172759981
Oh, I didn't know. Thanks, senpai.
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What exactly are Instanced Dungeon Multiply Tokens and how do you use them? Do you use them during leveling or save for 290?
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>>172761071
Each one is like adding an extra run in terms of exp/drops. So for example, if you use 1 then you do a run it'll be like doing 2 runs in one. If you use 2 tokens, then it will be like doing 3 runs in once.

You can use them however you like but it's best to do so in the slow leveling ranges or for 290 full runs.
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>>172727319
you are a fucking retard you know what? you constantly talk as if every fucking doppel out there is a whale and can reach this level on their own without full 4 supports helping him achieve it

you're a fucking moronic shitposting retard

even musketeers already can hit 199k cap
so can dragoons a

and a MULTITIUDE of other crit based classes you fuckign mongoloid

every fucking thread you think your desperate whining is going to do something you inbred little nigger
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>>172754614

>wugushi without wugushi outfit

God. Get out of my general.
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>>172763680
Ok how about this.
We increase dopell power at low transcned (non-whale status) BUT decrease the power of dopells at whale status.

Will you be happy with that?
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>>172763680
>even musketeers already can hit 199k cap
>1 hit

>so can dragoons
>1 hit x2

How many hits does x2 cyclones do again?
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>>172763680
Jesus, go away, please.
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>>172763919
None when you move at a snail's pace and the enemy just moves away
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>>172763919
>waah
>2

>waah
>3

fuck off retard, doppel has been nerfed 1000x times already and only McLaughing even gets 199k crits on his cyclones and funfact: he doesn't anymore without Miko and Meistis slaves

THE FAULT ISN'T IN THE CLASS YOU FUCKING RETARD

RETARD

RETARD

IT'S BECAUSE OF TRANSCENDENCE YOU FUCKING STUPID NIGGER RETARD

KILL YOUR SELF YOU R E T A R D
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>>172764419
Wow are you ok anon?
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>>172764419
McLaughin please, go away
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wu gu shi
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are you guys fucking retards?

Cyclone was fixed, yeah, but the damage balues are the same.

GLASS MOLE STACK WAS A BUG TOO.

Current new Cyclone is better for solo players because you can land almost all hits on MOLES UP and also fit everything into one Cleave over overheat. How many time I'll need to say that autoatk while using a skill is not a feature? This was fixed on Retreat Shot (member retreat shot + running shot from qs3?) and was now fixed at Cyclone.

Also, another funny thing is that people here don't know that you can dash while using cyclone. let's stop this discussion, those retards never played doppel.

>but thing run away

roflmao, pvp doppel?
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>>172764271
ALIVE GAME!
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>>172764745
Wugufwee!
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It's April, where the updates, Kim?
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>tfw Doppels are always the most autistic players
Really makes me think
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>>172764745

Cute!
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>tfw archers are the most autistic posters
Really makes you think
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>>172764949
I love my cute birb

>>172764987
Thanks, cutie~
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>>172765180
Wugushits aren't archers.
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>>172764949
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3141666eh
Good build?
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>not playing Wugushi
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>>172764985

two handed sword does this to weebs. thanks god there's no katana in this game. it's always that way. polite, smart, handsome rapier users and autism, fat stinking two handed sword players.
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>172763680
>172764419
>172764749
Because doppel is designed as to be the highest damage dealing class in the game, it is the high risk high reward class with 0def 1milion attack melee range no utility final destination. Fuck off retard, doppel has been nerfed 1000x times already.

>b-but ausrine+melstis means the def loss doesn't matter
Those classes aren't doppel or wiz and everyone knows it's a busted combo.

Doppels go dex because they will miss without it and need crit rate+evasion.

Wizards do not need to be competing with Doppel, it's an overpowered class in the first place so nobody should be competing with it but even if it wasn't Doppel pretty much only does damage and does have downsides by design to accessing their full damage, they SHOULD be the most damaging class.
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>>172764985
It's always every single 2h sword class and the "xd top meta tier" classes. Don't pretend Wiz3 Ele3 Warlocks weren't all autistic retards before R8 got released.
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>>172765448
Spear users are also patricians gentlemen, unless they are Catagoons who can only spin around their spear
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>>172765302
I picked a3 instead of a2r1, but this is good too! If you don't know how to distribute your points:

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3141666eh.1a24354a51.152545.2f4f5a65.112135455261.254555
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>>172764419
>THE FAULT ISN'T IN THE CLASS YOU FUCKING RETARD
Prove it, show every other class doing it.
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>>172765624
Thanks, I have no idea about Mergen.
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>>172765565
Ele3Lock were better.
They became autistic screechers when the mdef value of rank 8 mobs and Lock2 preview were released, in a sad attempt of deny the reality of their death
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Rate my Wugu!

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3141666gg.1a284a5161.15243145.2f4f5a65.1a213a517581
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>>172765624

Is spread shot THAT BAD? LV is 3k base damage, hits 6 targets, 5 hits (at least that's what the description says)
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>>172765565
wew lad x2

Metafags are always upset, it's just how things go.

We haven't had our copypastas in a while too.
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>>172766071
I'm not mergen yet, but the 3 mergens in my guild tested it and told me not to level spread shot. Arrow sprinkle is mergen's signature skill, triple arrow is good and homing arrow works well with fwee's circling.
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I wonder if R9 will kill the game. I'm really hoping it does something that shakes the meta up real hard. I want it to make Doppels and Pyros worthless. Then they all commit suicide over the thousands of dollars and hours they've sunk into their now dead characters. ENDLESS EJACULATION.
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I'm going to fill you in on all questions this general will have.
Don't reply to this, use ctrl+f on every thread for TOSG FAQ.

>Dead game? Good game? Worth game?
Bugs, exploiters, botters, AFK farmers, low FPS, pay to win shop, low population, no class balance, no patches for months. Good game, but dead, might worth if you casual. You can never catch up to remaining population.

>CORSAIR!?
No, Corsair a shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBcYdIaKq2I

>DOPPEL IS OP
No, need full party. Solo A SHIT:

>DEEDS IS OP!?
Deeds scales with MINIMUM attack. Alone it doesn't make Doppels hit damage cap.
Miko + Glass Moles + Meistis do. That works for every class that is melee.

>CYCLONE IS OP!?!!!! MY WUGU DOESN-
People choose Doppel because Cyclone has good AoE potential. It is the best AoE skill in sword tree and nerfing it nerfs the entire sword tree. It has already been nerd 3 times in the history of TOS.
Fletchers magic arrow has mode damage per second and more uptime, but not the area.

>If Doppel is so OP, why don't I see any?
All iTOS doppels quit, even whales like Aki:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2V7Lw0cEWA
(read comments)
Reasons he states: Game has stagnated and is boring to play.

>Is the game hard to level?
No, everything is much easier now.

>Transcendence still in game?
It still is and people want it removed, vote here: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/poll-transcendence-system/352371/208

>Practonium still in game?
Yes. 2 chests now. It's still a 3 day get, or 30 to 60 day get. It's pure random.

>Did DPK change?
Changes coming to it. Every drop has % chance to drop. You can increase the chance by hunting the same mob. So DPK is still in the game.

>DEX?
Dex right now is the most powerful stat for any physical DPS because of transcendence.

>PvP?
Is dead.

>ET?
Has new levels up to Solmiki gear. Normal mobs with 1,000,000 health, so you need really well geared people.

>Is 280 zones still hard?
Nerfed all content past 280. It's easy now.
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^call him a nigg
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>>172766616
>That works for every class that is melee.
Even corsair?
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>>172766616
>>Did DPK change?
>Changes coming to it.
>Nerfed all content past 280.
Play the game retard.
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>>172766358

Sprinkle is really beautiful, but I wanna how if spread could work as one point wonder filler skill
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>>172766616
>Fletchers magic arrow has mode damage per second and more uptime, but not the area.

Funny. Where's the +150% attack mod that I don't see? Steady aim is 20% of best, DOV is +150% physical attack, retard.
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Defend this game.
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>>172767386
lol, are you forgetting Cleave + Zwerchhau?
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>>172766616
>pay to win shop
It's so inefficient you couldn't win your mom's vagina with the shop.

>might worth
Do you really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>Doppel
>Doppel
>Doppel
I see, so the doppelfag is an ESLfag who's so poor he thinks tokens qualify as pay to win. That explains why he claims not every doppel is a whale.

>Changes coming to it
No retard, DPK was already removed from the game.

In conclusion, you're an actual nigg.
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Does Hoplite's 20% skill boost to medium targets while holding 1h spear apply to all skills or only Hoplite ones?
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Please delete all doppels from this thread, always bringing their retarded shit. No one cares.
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>>172767734
Sounds like all.
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>>172767808
Good enough.
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>>172767912
I thought it was just a meme.
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I'm going to fill you in on all questions this general will have.
Don't reply to this, use ctrl+f on every thread for TOSG FAQ.

>Is the game dead in Korea?
Korea doesn't use Steam so we don't know. Most likely yes.

>Is the game dead in japan?
They also don't use Steam so we have no numbers. Most likely more alive than other servers.

>Whats the current population?
It's April 1st and we're still around 3k players. Have been for months.

>What's this big update thing?
It's just news. Wait until April 3rd in a few days from now.

>Events going on?
There's events right now for leveling and 120 TP if you reach level 330. Ending soon.

>What's the most OP class?
None is. Groups play still best play. Pyro right now holds most potential due to Agny.

>Miko in the game?
Yes added months ago. It makes Diev even more OP.

>Cleric isn't most OP?
They can solo every content in the game with ease.

>Druid C3?
Still the same druid.

>Corsair?
Already explained Corsair.

>Alchemist still shit?
Yes. Nothing fixed. Homonculus only work for Alchemists. Potions still sell. Bots still in Garden map and it's still the only map where you can get Uosis.

>Pardoner / Squire good?
If you like 20k a day, at best, profit. Sure.

>Necrofarmers still allowed?
Yes, although iTOS took a stance recently with Grim Reaper spawning in Dina: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/finally-imc-is-taking-action-against-dina-afkers-good-job/352718

>Hunting grounds?
They only go up to level 220 gear at the moment. Good stuff for new players. Replaces needs for shit like the dagger from 90 dungeon for new players. It's a fun addition. They have a lot of slots / potential.

>EU or NA for me? I'm EU.
Go EU. Don't go NA. NA has more /tosg/ but NA and EU servers are equal in terms of activity. Have fun being EU in NA server when no one is online and server empty when you play.

>Can I use controller?
Yes.

>How long does it take to get max level?
Less than a month for a new player. 3 weeks max.

>>172766616
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>>172767912
Do people actually manage to spend two hours doing this? The dungeons aren't completing themselves.
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>>172768327
So the grim reapers in dina bee are official and not just a one-time thing? Is it just in dina bee?
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>>172768201
what the fuck i am watchin?
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>when a subhuman priest 1 blessinglet overwrites your 777 blessing
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I'm going to fill you in on all questions this general will have.
Don't reply to this, use ctrl+f on every thread for TOSG FAQ.

>Is Elememe still shit?
Monster health has been nerfed. You still need around 2000 mATK to damage new monsters effectively. Pyro however is vastly superior to Elementalist.

>Dragoon good?
It's still a good balanced build.

>How do I make a sword?
Dragoon is balanced. Fencer is best single target DPS. Doppel is best AoE. Murmillo is a tanky powerhouse.

>How do I make a wizard?
Supports still go chronomancer with either enchanter or sage in the end.
All DPS wizards go Pyro with Linker or Thauma or even Wiz3>Pyro3>Sage. Basically every DPS wizard is a variation of Pyro now.

>How are alchemist awakening enchants?
Still not buffed despite Cash Shop hats buffed and gems buffed. They remain shit.

>What do you do end game now?
Same shit as always.

- You run 290 for papercube recipies to get your 2x Practonium weapon recipe.
- You run 290 for Artilonium.
- You fight 330+ mobs for materials.
- You run Saalus every day.
- You run ET if you hate yourself.
- You make a necro to make silver on an alt account.
- You only roll meta builds now or you cannot do any of the above solo.

That's it. This has not changed at all. You still play the game the exact same way you did 8 months ago.

>Is there class reset?
NO.

>Is there stat reset?
Yes, costs around 100 dollars.

>Is there skill reset?
Yes, costs around 30 dollars.

>Any way to reset with in-game currency?
NO.

>>172768327
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How come Gohei doesn't always dispel siauliai's tree shield?
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>>172769371
>Fencer is best single target DPS
Nice meme
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>>172769371
I want to fill you in... with semen!

Why does no one play Wugushi even though everyone shills for it here? I thought it was top tier? Did it ever get a C3 costume?
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>Archer2Sapper2Wugushi2
Falconer>Mergen, Wugu3>Mergen/Hackapell, Cannon2 or Musket2? Pure DEX?
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>>172769730
I just made one.
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>>172769730
DoT classes are just generally unpopular in all games.
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>>172770008

warlock was very popular in wow
pyromancer is popular here, wugushi was popular even when it was pure trash
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>>172770231
>warlock was very popular in wow
It's been the least played class since Wrath after it stopped being OP.
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>>172770391

>wow post tbc
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>>172770790
The point is that the class was only popular while it was ridiculously overpowered. DoT based classes aren't popular, overpowered classes are.
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>>172715954
(Klaipeda) Futureproof is inviting you to one of the TOP guilds of tosg, whisper ApplyAFineHorse3 for invites
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>>172769371
>Fencer is best single target DPS.
Only with high trans lolo rapier AND the enemy has to be leather, and still only be even with a doppel.
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Corsair isn't shit
Pillage is better than ever before now with new drop system
Jolly Roger +missile buff is great for Pistol Shot which now has even more AoE capability with the new attribute
Corsair is fine
Just wait and see rank 9 highwayman circle with pistol based skills
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>>172771205
And Doppel needs 15 DoV stacks, high transcended weapon and to be in a party with a chrono and a krivis to be on par with a fencer in that situation. Your point?
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>>172771374
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>>172765531
but ausrine+melstis
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>>172752714
please respond
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>>172771409
The point is that given the same party and gear, a doppel will always beat a fencer on single target except on leather, for which the fencer can achieve parity.
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>>172768327
>but NA and EU servers are equal in terms of activity.
If you lie like this, they're just going to quit anyway. Fedimian is by far the most inactive server and anyone considering it for ping, language, or scheduling reasons needs to be prepared for that.
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Hi I'm new.
Are archers any good? They look pretty fun
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>>172771897
>Fedimian is by far the most inactive server
lol, now that's a lie.
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fucking shit, i wish someone would going to fill me in on all questions this general will have.
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>>172771970

Telsiai = Silute >>>> Klaipeda > Fed > Orsha (but orsha enjoys klai queue's so...)
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>>172772114

Oh, I forget Varena... Varena has less players than Silute but it works to boost Telsiais' queue too which also makes Varena better than Klaipeda I think.
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>>172771970
Fedimian more dead than anything based in NA or SEA isn't a /tosg/ meme, it's a fact with steamcharts data too to prove it
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Am I doing it right with Barb3?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1666.115a6a7485aab5
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I'm going to fill you in on all questions this general will have.
Don't reply to this, use ctrl+f on every thread for TOSG FAQ.

>People in this general say EU server is dead?
It's pure shitposting. Always was, always is.

>What is an Appraiser?
There's an NPC in town that appraises gear gotten from hunting ground maps for a fee. The appraiser NPC adds random bonuses to potential and sockets of the gear.

>What is an Appraiser class?
It's the upcoming hidden class for archers. A one rank support role with a shop.

>What can an Appraiser sell?
Temporary rings / amulets that are copies of their own gear.
Also they can appraise and are better than the NPC in terms of giving sockets / potential.

>Rings, amulets? With like, transcendence buffs?
Yes, exactly. You can sell Agny with transcendence, rings with it too etc. It all works, even enhancements.

>Where can I learn more about Appraiser hidden class?
Here's basic info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maPg8ZHugD0
Here is some FAQ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUCISvwduX0

>When will Rank 9 arrive?
No one knows.

>I think you are lying about EU and NA servers.... >,>
This is an opinion and not a question.

>What is the most dead server in iTOS?
Orsha by far. Even people on forum confirm this. No one ever mentions Fedimia or Klaipeda or Telsai. These 3 seem to still have the most active player numbers.

>Do bots get banned?
Only if reported with evidence on the main forums.

>How can I bot?
We don't know.

>What are the most exploited things in the history of TOS?
- Events got the most exploited, some people got away with 100x level 7 gems.
- GvG with rigged win/lose ratios, some people had 10,000 of free TP.
- World bosses got camped beyond belief and exploited.
- There used to be an exploit that allowed people to infinitely open practonium cubes in a day.
- NecroFamers (AFK farming) have been farming for around 9 months with billions of silver for 1 person, inflating the value of silver.

>>172769371
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>>172772927
that is nice and all, but people will not ctrl+f or read your posts when they have questions. they will just post them. the same over and over. and you know that.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>172771970
Stop being delusional, your server is a wasteland >>172773129
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>>172774108
>all those 0.00
Wow, that thing sure looks trustworthy.
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I'm going to fill you in on all questions this general will have.
Don't reply to this, use ctrl+f on every thread for TOSG FAQ.

>What are Tokens?
Enable you to trade without major restrictions, give bonus exp, some movement speed and best of all: shared storage between characters.

>How do I get a Token?
From the cash store for TP or buy from market.

>How much is a Token?
Right now estimate is that Tokens thanks to inflated silver values and declining playerbase are going to reach: 3 million silver standard.

>Is 3 million hard to make?
Not really once you are close to the level cap or at least R8 and can farm.

>What are dungeon limits?
You can only run main dungeons a set amount per day. Token increases this.

>Do hunting grounds have limits?
No.

>What are Badges?
I don't know, no one will tell me ;_;

>If I don't have Token buff, can I still play?
Sure, but you will suffer. Especially in later levels where you start to drop silver.

>Can't I just store my silver?
No.

>What!?
Not without token buff. If you return to the game you cannot even withdraw your balance.

>How do I make silver in this game?
Many ways. Easiest would be doing Crystal Mines / Saalus / 290 rushes, and selling your drops. Then farming mobs for raw silver.

>Pardoner/Alchemist/Squire don't make silver?
Very little. Very, very little. You're better off making a NecroFarmer C3.

>Can I make alt accounts?
Yes, you however need an alt Steam account too.

>Can I run 2 clients at once?
Not without hacks, so prepare a laptop / another PC.

Is NecroFarming allowed?
No, but you don't get banned for it. So technically, yes.

>Is this game fun?
Yes, if you don't try too hard.

>Is there an updated leveling guide?
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/complete-leveling-guide-for-tos/190816

>What server do you play on anon?
I quit long ago. Just helping out / weeding misinfo. I played on EU.

>Come back?
No.

>>172772927
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>>172774656
>>Is there an updated leveling guide?
>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/complete-leveling-guide-for-tos/190816
that is old and shit

just stop posting nigga, noone cares or reads ur shit
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>>172771298
Still subpar since nothing R8 fits it.
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>>172772114
They could throw Silute into NA server queues since it's hosted in NA too. Who cares if people won't understand each other, most would rather get their dungeons done fast.
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>reee delete informative posts reee
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So I just got the gohei from Merrisa is there another quest to collect the spirits or do I just start collecting em currently in Manahas looking for the first spent 2hour-ish circling nada so far
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>>172776157

But Silute's queue are fast, no need for this. NA players are too toxic (I played cuckpeda at launch). And...they are showing interest in bringing the server back to São Paulo again.
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>my necro is USELESS all it CAN do it AFK farm please don't take this away from me then I can't do ANYTHING WAAAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLxnJV_4Pw

fuck off retards
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>>172776183
>informative posts
>the information is wrong

good stuff
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>>172776183
>>172773258
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>>172776790
All that's showing is how good joint penalty is.
Also
>Alsheyra
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>>172776790
Nice try.
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>>172776183
Literally half the things you wrote are completely outdated.
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>>172777093
that's literally one circle of linker
there's no excuse not to take it as a necro C3

what else did you fucking choose? are you retarded?

>I rolled a shit build necro, please buff necro
retard
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>>172776183
>informative posts
>>172774656
>I quit long ago. .....So i dont know shit.
ftfy
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>>172777093

name a better skill to use on jp'd target.

anyway, the video is still dump because if she was necro 1 the output would be almost the same, plus, two free ranks to go at r7 and r8 warlock/sage for pvp, warlock 2 for pve, FF2 and etc..
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>>172777260
I didn't write it.
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>>172776790
I kill those swelled faster

Also you're using Flesh Cannon, a Necro1 skill.
There's no reason to ever go over Necro1.
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>>172777460
Copypasted from the forums, whatever
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I wonder what Kusarihime would think if she was around to read the thread right now. I guess Wugushi really were fixed and saved beyond expectations.
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I knew alsheyra was a subhuman weeblord.
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>>172774656
>I quit long ago.
Fedimian is so dead that the guy trying to lure people into it quit long ago.
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>>172766616
>>172768327
>>172769371
>>172772927
>>172774656
Thanks for this info. Very helpful.
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wtf I love vaidotas now
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>>172776157
Nobody wants BRs in their dungeons. I hope they move it back to hueland so we'll have another excuse to keep all the hues there.
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>>172777813
>samefaggoting that hard
negro pls

if real newniggas read that, forget it, a lot of worng or outdated
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>>172777856
>HP rec
Is this one year ago?
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>>172777734
You seem paranoid af fempai.
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>>172777941

good luck bypassing 4k mdef players with agny. I'm building a special hp rec animus snapshot set
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>>172777856
>trash item
stupid jew
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stop replying to me
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>>172778040
>not using Maven Necklace for superior magic defense
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I'm going to fill you in on all questions this general will have.
Don't reply to this, use ctrl+f on every thread for TOSG FAQ.

>Use Cards?
Never mate, dont dare or you will be stuck at ~L40 or ~70 forever
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>>172778074

I need trash high level items to get faster awakening runs (this one take 8 minute I think) and hp recovery rolls. Plus, it's only 7 calcites for a white trash while a purple takes 21.

I'm not going to wear this, you just use it before equipping your animus.
Too bad we don't have white 270 armors.
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guys I know who it is I reported him to the admin in our discord server, we're on the works to banning him just wait a little longer
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>>172778396
I'm going to fill you in on all questions this general will have.
Don't reply to this, use ctrl+f on every thread for TOSG FAQ.


>Is it in beta? Can I play right now?
It is in beta. You can't play right now unless you have a KR Nexon account which is both phone-verified, and has signed up to the current kCBT3 extension period. Applications for this period however, are closed.
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>>172776790
>Alsheyra
Remember the pecking order
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>all this crying about necromancers
could you be more jealous? lmfao
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>>172778396
>>172778742
Is memelander the broken class?
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>>172778948
calm down dvine
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>>172778948
>replying to like 3days old posts
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WL2 or Necro3?
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Is necro farming truly dead?
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please don't be rude
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>>172777856
Should I retry until I get a 1k+ roll?
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reminder that necromancers make around 12m a day
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Reminder to stop replying to alsheyra
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>>172779517

>700 hp

what tier is this item? looks like a great roll already.
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This is a Corsair C3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBcYdIaKq2I

His highest damaging skills are Highlander C3 and Doppel C1. Stop telling people lies about this class. It's terrible.
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>>172779972
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>>172780224
The chance to get HP is very low anyway, keep it.
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>>172780137
Same Corsair with some prac weapons doing 290.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teG-VYabkiM

>who cares 290 durr
no one cares, it's just a way to showcase the class you mongoloids. he also has library and ET uploaded faggot.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31418deee.1a284a5161.152545.153545.15253144.11354f648ab5c5

Support Archer? I don't even understand what the point in Appraiser is. Wouldn't you be much better off with a Thaum if you just want straight damage buffs?
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>>172780224

Keep it. Awesome roll.
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>172781843
read the FAQ posts there's tons of info on Appraiser in them, just ctrl+f FAQ
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>>172781770
Nobody cares about library or ET. 290 farming and saalus soloing are the most relevant endgame runs.
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>>172782280
Can you please not depress me? I'm trying to enjoy the game, and statements like that make me realize what a wasted effort and piece of shit this game is.
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Japanese hate Necromancers too.

https://youtu.be/9d1qQqKCrOI
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Library is fun to do sometimes. ET fells like a chore some time later but it's a legit challenge. Rest is pvp and rerolling trashy alts
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>>172782623
>a legit challenge
A legit application of broken game design, sure.
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>>172782583
Not to mention they actually DO ban people on jTOS for it too.

People still do it even if they get banned.

Read the thread: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/finally-imc-is-taking-action-against-dina-afkers-good-job/352718/175
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>>172782583
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>>172780137
Same guy with better gear doing same map.

https://youtu.be/kzzVsdFSZA0
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What class do I play if I want to be top tier solo damage god but also isn't overplayed??
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>>172784181
Fucking wugushi it's been posted 2 billion times.
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stop replying to yourself about wugushit
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>>172784181
>What class do I play if I want to be top tier solo damage god
Pyro
> but also isn't overplayed??
Not Pyro
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>>172784181
Fencer.
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>>172784453
>playing archer
>ever
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>>172784181
Pyro.

You don't even need Practonium weapons to do well. Just abuse Transpose and health regen to snap your damage then swap to Agny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY2HDluXGG4

This player uses only Five Hammer and basic shit tier gear. No practonium. No transcendence. Just your cookie cutter Pyro3>Thauma3.
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>>172784081

This build is VERY fun to play and I was rolling something similar but the lack of CLEAVE is disturbing. I think that HL 2 + Barb 1 would be better. Cleave is disgusting, you basically can't play slash without it. BS is not worth the trip to HL 3 and skull swing, while good theoretically, can't complete on that +50% as long as you have a decent weapon, plus, the uptime is bad to move from mob to mob.
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>>172786000
>trips
You could also go Barb3 for warcry/frenzy and wild gimmicks. It's not hard to abuse these with corsair either since you can stack frenzy in two seconds to max. Seism is now a true multihit with wild and warcry is a decent boon. If you need skyliner then go for it.
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>>172785978

>abuse transpose

wtf, this is only for animus, can't combo animus with agny. great for other builds that may pack full int thauma c1
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>>172786251

Seism is still not a true multi-hit, but does double total damage on wild 5 stacks... basically a 340% instead of the 170%, pretty good now to be honest
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>>172776790
>dat fat weabo music
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>>172786359
>can't
look at the video again at the end

>drops fireballs with agny
>kicks them forward
>transpose, animus, damage goes up

you can
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>>172785978
>but also isn't overplayed??
nigga, like each 2nd player is Pyro nowadays
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>>172786784
>like each 2nd player is
Why do they let non-English trash post on this website?
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>>172785978
nice missinfo
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>>172787198
To trigger (You). Only today, its just a april prank bro
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>aims at /tosg/
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>>172788175
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>>172788175
*aims at (you)*
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>>172788175
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What's Kabaliust for?
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>>172789813

pvp/tatfuck
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>2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtL3nJkTIJc

>mounted
>flare had no cooldown
>no tilted angle nonsense
>cute portraits

when did it all go so wrong
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>>172790146
>old barb / cyro
I enjoyed those simpler times
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>>172785978
>cookie cutter thaum3
fucking retard
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I can't believe Commander Lord Phail will be gone next tuesday. He will be missed.
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pyro 100k fireball ticks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shNDXZ3KS3E
no chapp
just quick cast + agny
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>>172791158
why would i need that much damage for saalus?
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>>172791158
and stage 10 weapon and other whaled eqp
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pyro > doppel

https://youtu.be/FJVeDZbAkOo
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>>172791158

>no chap

he's using chap, anon
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>>172791158
>no chap
You can literally see the chap buff being meltis'd though
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>>172791158
>103,420 health
how? if he's full int
this makes no sense to me
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>>172791158
he is using chap but still that is much more damage with lower cooldowns than a doppel
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>>172791749

squire buff, but I'm not sure about him being full int. doesn't even need int with a stage 10 staff
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I remember Psychokino being a good class before, did they nerf it?
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>>172791946
doesnt look like its stage 10
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>>172791954

still the best wizard class for pvp, does decent on pve
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>>172792214
Does Telekinesis work on PVP?
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>>172792531

yeah but it's very limited (cleric's cc resist blocks it and it locks you in place when it works). Magnetic Force + Raise are the big guns
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What drops Accuracy Crossbow? All dbs say it's "cemetery golem", which is nowhere to be found. Yet accuracy crossbow is an ingredient for a bunch of crossbows that are readily available on the market.
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>>172793229
The recipe's from Infro Hoglans, but used to be pretty damn rare. Probably easier to get now.
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>>172793432
I'm dumb for not noticing it on the database. Thanks! I'll see if I can get it.
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legs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTzQHTPRqh0
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>>172793684
hhhnnnngg
>>
Someone tell me about Warlock and Feeatherfoot, what's their gimmick? Or are they simply damage classes with reskined abilities?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oN4oy15co8

I don't get it. Why make both? Gale is only slightly worse. Especially if he's already Stage 7 into it. Just compare those stats. All you gain is 2 aoe and lose crit rates and all. I don't get it. Someone help.
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>>172794048
Warlocks' gimmick is the ability to spawn fireballs after killing enemies and have the fireballs spawn more fireballs from killing enemies, but they toe the line of being Necro tier farming with them or being too weak to do anything with them.

Featherfoot gimmick is HP absorption and curses, but cursing sucks and having your main skills restricted by enemy type sucks unless you get some gloves. Although their attacks became poison which is decent.
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Can someone explain to me what Hethran Badges are and what they are used for? Are there other kinds of badges?
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>>172794769
They are for crafting items basically https://tos.neet.tv/quests?type=KEYITEM&f=1
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>>172794769
Nevermind, googled it. https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=835
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>>172794769
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=835
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>>172794769
You can do more dumb quests to collect shitty items
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>>172794908
All of these seem to be rings and necklaces with terrible stats. Is that it?
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>>172793432
Got it on the 26th.
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>>172795165
>not a single ring with crit rate to replace sissel
>-minus CON
>-minus SP recovery
>low stats or 15 int, 10 spr
why....
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Someone help, what do I have to do for the Kabbalist advancement quest?
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>>172796303
Defeat the monster indicated by the number displayed on the crystal sphere (0/50)
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>>172796303
Every time you activate the orb, it changes the mob you need to kill. Just select a non-archer spion and kill 50 of them.
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>>172796303
Defeat the monster indicated by the number displayed on the crystal sphere (0/50)
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So realistically, are they any archers builds that will use Appraiser well that aren't QS3?
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>>172797575
falconer 3 since appraiser is supportish
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>>172797575
It fits perfectly in the rank progression of ranger 3 appraiser sr 3
also could see some use in those rogue 3 builds since they're already gimped at r8 anyway
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>>172797852
where do you have room in the archer2-ranger3-sr3 progression?

surely you're not dropping archer2 in favor of appraiser right?
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>>172798083
Sorry bud, your build is irrelevant now.
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>>172797575
Optimally you want a build that encourages you to transcend your sub weapon to maximize overvalue so I guess only QS3 Cannon 2 will have any real use for it.
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>>172797852
A2-R2-App1-SR3 actually seems like it'd be a good idea. 5% from SA is a worth loss for 25% crit att. R3 isn't really great anyways.
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All my skill keybinds just went blank.
Switching to another character, they're blank on it, too.

Is this IMC's idea of an april fools joke?
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>>172799571
Sounds like a pretty good joke to me.
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>>172799507
Does the crit thing apply in AoE? I thought it was just on the enemy you hit initially.
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>>172797575
Cannoneer. They recently buffed them to insane levels and made all skills work in the Bazooka stance. That or Musketeer but seeing as Cannoneer got buffed I don't see any other class working so well.

Basically QS3>App>CannoneerC3. Having the ability to maximise the cannon and being able to weaken players in PvP and monsters in PvE makes you a powerhouse farmer + one shotter.

Appraiser is essentially a Miko when it comes to taking away gear bonuses. The range is good and it makes all gear lose all kind of enhancement, even transcending. Just not weapons, sadly. Seen a lot of good cannoneer videos already from kTOS doing ET to 35+.
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>>172797575
Also at what rank do you get access to Appraiser?
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>gives saalus a 3 days cooldown, two missions
>2 shards each mission

game saved
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>>172800840
>only play the game 2 days a week
The only thing saved is your own life.
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I'm new to Archer so I need help. This is the best I could do though.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311333dff.1a23354a5161.1e2e314a5175.23354552.14243444546575

Is this a good skill distribution? Stats would be typical full DEX or maybe 100 CON, rest DEX.

Don't bully my good build
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Dead general?
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>>172802893
Ded gaem.
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>A bunch of fags are trying to crash fedi1 by building and maintaining a gorillion statues
>>
rip tosg
>>
>tbl
>Some faggot immediately charges straight to his death
>Does it the next round
>The round after that
>In the fourth round, he starts bitching that nobody is ressing him
>We have no priest
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>>172803964
show screenshot pls
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>>172804104
well clearly it is your fault then
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How does spear throw hold up on r8 maps? I've seen it used to pretty good effect in the 290 but I'm curious.
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>>172804131
They stopped, and I was too busy getting the fuck out of there to escape the 0.3 fps

That shitty effect the statues put out just turned into a solid disc with all the satues there.
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>Stumbled upon a secret map trigger
>Don't know if I'm missing a step or if it's just luck

Ah, ToS secrets.
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>>172803964
The game has to be bugged past its known boundaries.
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Has Monk been buffed enough to be playable, or will I still get bullied? I just want to play Cleric2 Priest2 Monk3 and then hang myself because inquisitor looks stupid.
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Why do fireballs seem like they proc blessing twice? I thought they fixed that.
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>>172805457
Monk still remains a kTOS whale class only. It was buffed a LOT but again 0 cooldown abilities don't work unless you're near 20 ping.

Basically I remember them getting 2x Strike debuffs and Golden Bell made semi-useful. With whale gear + time you can become quite powerful as a pure DEX build. Inquisitor is your end game of course.
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>>172805562
That all said though it's nowhere near as good as a sword and nowhere near as good as the other whale cleric variants.
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>>172805457
Just went to YouTube and searched "TOS 2017 03 monk" and found this gem of a mouth breather.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_p5Bt_nDl0
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>>172805562
I just hate Monk into Inquisitor. I'm an RP fag and Monk thematically is the disciplined peaceful fighter type, then Inquisitor is the crazy gas the mages dues vult type.

>>172805695
Why does whaling have to be a thing in Korean MMOs? Can't they just make a good game to keep people playing instead of going for the sunken cost shit?
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>>172806421
>Why Koreans do dis!?
Why do you think a lot of us old school vet MMO players were so scared and opposed to Korean shit like Gacha coming to TOS?

No one listened.
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>>172805884
>those tabs

he seems alright
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>>172804767

rip
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>>172806421
Inquisitor is the only melee focused R8 class. If you want to go melee, you go to Inquisitor. It might even get better at R9. Going anything else is asking for a class reset.

If you dislike Inquisitor that much, then there are other options. Instead of starting Monk as soon as possible, supplement it with maybe some Paladin and start Monk a rank later. This way you max Monk at R8.

However C2 Paladin gives you fucking nothing.

You'd be better off making a Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Monk 3. With Ausrine and Silence totems (ignore owls as they scale with mAtk that you don't use) you're looking at a gimped melee cleric.

Inquisitor just gives you what you need.

>>172806739
>plebbit links
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>>172806421
>disciplined peaceful fighter
heh
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>guild: CuteNotLewd
yeah pretty obvious the stuttering faggot is from here
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>>172806982
Eh, I just won't bother playing. It's not like I'll be missing out on much anyway with the problems I've seen from just reading the forums and this thread. I was hoping for a cute Diablo with diverse class options and character building, but everyone is so obsessed with the meta, even the game designers.
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>>172806421

this is you thinking bad of inquisitors. A monk can walk the hard path of actually putting his hand to do the dirty work
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>>172807228
>I don't even play this game
>please help me make a build
>NO DON'T ADD THAT USEFUL CIRCLE IN IT BECAUSE I'M A ROLEPLAYER
fuck off faggot
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>>172807410
>that useful circle
>that you will be using exclusively from the second you get it because the entire game past R7 is dependent on your latest rank skills making your previous ranks worthless outside of utility
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>>172807228
The meta is literally defined by what everyone is obsessed with, faggot. If they were obsessed with something else then that would be the meta.
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>>172807615
You clearly don't play this game. Inquisitor only adds 1 new damage skill. Rest make your previous circles stronger.

retard
>>
>Stat rework makes base stats equally as important as equipment
>Sadhu becomes a good class as a result for feeding Int to Pyromancers
>Sacrament and last rites gain Spr scaling on added holy prop damage
>Resist elements magic defense debuff and prop resistance also gain Spr scaling
>Skill base damage is based off of a multiplier of strength x skill dependent multiplier

I can dream, right?
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>>172807706
i bet you play ktos
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>>172807615
That's not how it works that's just a retarded meme because BIG NUMBERS. Monk is a pretty character defining class since it completely replaces your basic attack and gives you the only holy physical attack in the game.
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>>172807813
It's too late, the game is dead. Any huge changes now would just drive off their whales. Let it die.
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>>172808060
I would come back if transcendence was removed. I'd happily play this game every week casually.

Right now though casual play (like 4 hours a day) gets you nothing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAZEeXDJJaI
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>>172808280
I don't have any problem with trans conceptually but it should have diminishing returns rather than becoming increasingly more ridiculous the more you transcend. Also you should be able to transcend monster gems for more skill levels or something so that support characters can actually improve.
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They wouldn't tell me. Why do you think they're waiting for r8? Going Miko? Futureproofing?
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>Sorcerer / Neromancer (not meta) with Practonium gear solo 290.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4T8dz97Q5o
>45k templeshooter crits

Non-meta doesn't mean not viable.
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>>172808440
What if trans(weapons) just increased skill power? Like how agny does, so you'd have like 550% or whatever of your skills at stage 10, so if you did 1s, you'd still do 1s.
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>>172808510
It's a meistis slave character. There's no reason to pick a R8.
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>>172808737
I don't have $10000 to spend on a dying game.
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>>172808805
The fact you're doing 1s already tells the game is broken.
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>>172808980
doubt that player used any real money, grow up retard
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>>172809105
>grow up and spend your daily wage slave money on a dead MMO

lol no thanks
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>>172808737
>290
>standard of viability
kek-9
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Korean Murmillo PvP.

https://youtu.be/thBqjO06iTY

Love that FPS. Guessing the guy has 2x screens for his resolution. That or he is deliberately using that resolution to see the entire arena in one glance. Smart.
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>>172809594
>cap zoom level, but don't cap the field of vision of higher resolutions
why do I even play this shit
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Speaking of Monks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHpuFQL6Jjo
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>>172809909
You were playing it for PvP?
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>>172809986
This applies to basic attacks as well doesn't it? Fucking stupid how much ping and control type effects your dps.
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>>172809986
so if you want to maximum min max your subpar class you use mouse, got it boss
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>>172810289
Yeah and also:

>Published on Mar 14, 2017
>Internet : LG GIGA LAN
>GPU: GeForce GTX TITAN X
>CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz

Have a good PC. Clearly pay to win.

Koreans take their Murmillo's pretty seriously: https://www.youtube.com/user/jeping4123/videos?spfreload=1
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>>172810617
but why? this game probably has 10k players worldwide
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>>172797575
I was going to use Appraiser on my Wugu3, I think it would have gone good with my build. Mergen seems like it's good enough to keep one circle so any Wugu 3 Scout Mergen's that are PvPers should definitely consider Appraiser for their next rank!
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>>172810891
>>172773129
says there were 50k players in int alone unless I'm misunderstanding something.
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>>172800214
What if I hate QS3 and think it's one of the most worthless classes in the game?
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>>172811556
Ranger 3, Archer 2?
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>>172810115
I'm here for Guild Wars (GvG Content) - No place is safe from enemy guild members, in the open field or even in instance dungeons!
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>want to play this game
>loved making alts and sharing gear
>look up plenty of TOS videos
>get excited

>then remember you can't share transcended gear among alts
>you have to commit into one character
>lose interest
>close all tabs
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>>172811902

you don't need that much trans.

0 for armor/mdef. stage 3 for weapons and you're set.
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How's this for meta?

>Wiz3>Ele3>Pyro3>Alchemist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kp_L-40udM

People always forget that Elementalist has attributes that make Fire spells and Ice spells better. I have no fucking clue why the person has alchemist.

I also don't get why they are full CON.
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>>172811902
>Tradeable trans gear
>Now even if you invest in your favorite class any whale can instantly make it and be stronger than your character

I REALLY do not want tradeable trans shit, I like to get attached to my characters not just see them as tools.
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>>172812423
>10 ranks
ANON
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>>172812423
How does that Elementalist explosion attribute work? It looks like the explosion copies however much damage the attack that killed the enemy did but it's hard to tell with all the multihits.
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>>172812759
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/207018

I still don't get how her damage is that high with no INT, but then again this is what Transcendence does. It's the same as swords / archers not investing any STR and getting tons of damage. I still don't fucking get the alchemist choice.

Why not make enchanter or sage or anything? Why alchemist? Combustion? It doesn't even get Agny bonus nor does it proc elementalist attributes. I think though this person is just testing the viability of elementalist here. Not a final build.
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>>172812282
This isn't true unless you're a support role.

>>172812517
No one wants this. People want the whole system gone. Back to the days of people trying to get +15 weapons. Shit, with Trans gone people might even try to use Alchemists to get 15%+ damage.

If Transcendence was removed it would mean a lot of classes would fall out of grace and ET would become undoable for gimmicky Meistis shitters.
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>>172813020
With a high enough transcendence you need no INT at all just go full CON.
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The kabalist skill that sends out wheels with wings looks retarded and useless.
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>>172813241
People didn't upgrade weapons because it was a waste of money though. You think people in general are going to be sitting around trying to make 50mil +20 orange 315 weapons to have them replaced at r9?
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>>172813350
You can ride on it!
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>>172811704
What? But everywhere is safe from that, that feature was removed.
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>>172813241
Ofc most people want the system gone, the system is built to allow dedicated players to get stronger and most people are casuals.
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>>172813418
Why would you need to?
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>>172813350
No, it looks awesome and fun.
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Is grinding completely gone from the game? Do I still have to do truffles or whatever or anything like that?
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>>172813465
It wasn't removed. You can declare war on an enemy guild right now!
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>>172813649
Go play some other game.
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>>172813649
Depends on how much you play, if you play kinda casually and do missions each day you won't need to grind, if you're trying to reach r8 as fast as possible you'll probably have to grind since less mission xp.
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>>172813469
>Ofc most people want the system gone, the system is built to allow whales to get stronger and most people not whales
ftfy chum
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>>172814021
>It's another "anyone who isn't a shitbird trying to fund 8 different characters is a whale" episode
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>>172813649
It's gone. They doubled the amount of exp you get from dungeons and added a ton of new quests.

>>172814142
>it's another "I'm whale neet you aren't LOL" episode
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>>172814240
>Swaaz comes from a mobile game with whales
>Calls anyone that beats him a whale as though this game operates under the same principles
>Now anyone that isn't using a white koperon sword is a whale

Truly ebin, if you don't want to play just quit like everyone else instead of getting mad you can't be competitive playing 30 minutes a day.
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>>172812282
0 for armor/accessory is ok
3 for weapons isn't fine at all, you need atleast stage 5
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@172814418
(You)
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>/tosg/
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>>172814583
are you ok?
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Corsair isn't that terrible
It's good for farming low level shit
Unless you trascend your armor and practonium weapons forget to solo farm mats for 315 weapons solo though
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>>172813697
Guild PvP disabled while inside instanced dungeons.
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>>172813801
I just want to know what level I need to be to do the daily stuff to accumulate money.

>>172813780
Why are you so upset? It's not like leveling is fun in any game, especially not one where you literally follow quests for 300 levels just to start gearing up.
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>>172815191
>It's not like leveling is fun in any game
Seriously, why are you playing genres you don't like? It's like playing FPS and not liking reloading or playing racing games but hating driving in circles.
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>Kill gold nuttabug
>600k and some rhodenabean down
>rhodenabean down
>nuttabug
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>>172815448
I lied, leveling and progression is fun if it's done right. For example, if great gear for higher level is available at a lower level and using abilities to grind is FUN but the effect gained by leveling is diminished the higher level you get.

Examples of this system would be Diablo 2 or Black Desert Online.

In Black Desert, you might hit level 50 and decide that's all you want to level. Daily bosses would be difficult, but doable with help, and you could grind for money and upgrades. You'd gain less EXP than if you were working towards level alone, but you would be able to build silver to buy gear. You could buy boss gear off the Marketplace if you camp it and snipe it, which is the same gear someone that's level 62 (highest level so far in BDO) would use. You would be slightly weaker in terms of stats like accuracy and have access to less skills than the 62, but it's a goal you can work towards while leveling while still being able to participate in the "end game".

In Diablo 2, most of the gear you used was level 40-60, but the level cap in that game was level 99. The gear also gave all kinds of different stats and encouraged creative character building and making alts. You could level to 99 if you wanted to, but you'd only gain a small amount of stats per level. Meaning you can participate in the "end game" of PvP or drop hunting early on, with leveling up just being a bonus of doing things you were having fun doing.
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>>172812423
>meta
>not being swordie
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what is the most autistic hat item in the game?

something you see every whale wear?
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God. Stage 3 weapon will cut up yo 35f.
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>>172817393
Flower branch is pretty common as autism wear, also the glasses items.
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>>172817560
Stage4 more like
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anyone have a picture of your typical lazy jew necromancer AFKing for profits?
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>>172817213
In contrast, there's games like WoW, or FFXIV. Those games encourage you to play through the story of leveling. None of the gear before max level is even worth looking at, just replace it as you go quest to quest. These games present the leveling experience as a story, the story of world your character is in. The goal is to interest the player in the story, keeping them going through the leveling process as a way to continue the story.

The "end game" in these types of games is defeating bosses that are big players in the story that the player has been working with the entire time they've been leveling. The player would do dungeons, which are side stories, to earn the gear to defeat the main story bosses, raids. You defeat the big evil boss, then the next evil boss that's even more powerful comes and you have to go through the gearing process again after hearing about all the bad things that boss did, and so on.

I'm not saying whether BDO/Diablo or FFXIV/WoW approach is better, they both have their own merits and in BOTH the level of your character isn't really important. The problem with Tree of Savior, is that the leveling process is spread between both of these. They expect you to grind monsters and seemingly random unimportant quests to level, but knowing your gear and the levels you earn are mostly worthless and will be replaced. Leaving you uninterested in the quests, and uninterested in upgrading your gear. The only goal is to level up.
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>>172817213
>>172817865
And Of course I'm going to ask you why then, do you want to play ToS over WoW/FFXIV/BDO/D2?
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>>172816789
I thought they fixed that, but maybe it was something similar. Nutta Fluid is gross.

>>172817393
White Ribbon Decoration Boater is the pinnacle of autistic, but whales couldn't buy their way to that. Wonder what farming it is like nowadays though.
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>>172817959
It's cute and the character building system is very unique.
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>>172817786

Depend on class, but stage 4 is doable if you decide that "ok, I will carry my guildmates to 35f" without trying too hard.

Or you can play Fencer. 170 weapon, two lv 7 yellow gems, two lv 6 LOL red gems on dagger, moles, 70% composee attribute and literally 0 transcendence (but stage 3 helps + squire buffs)
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>tfw want to roll several DPS builds and switch between them thanks to the fact i can freely move my gear with team storage but can't because i eventually need to trascend this gear and i can't physically afford more than one weapon/set trascended
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>>172817819
need a lazy necro or a picture of one for a meme
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>>172818178
Make a necro, get to AFKing
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>>172818310
Disgusting, keep running my computer 24/7 for Bees isn't worth
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>>172817987
Farming the boater is a joke now with warlock 2, only like 10k kills or something.
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>>172817987
>White Ribbon Decoration Boater
Farmed it with Corsair in 2 hours, waste of time, did it for make money and it's getting undercut to 2m
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>>172818402
Then go fuck yourself you casual fuck. If you want to play this game you need 3 computers of AFK necros going 24/7, then a 4th computer to do your daily activities on all 20 of your characters. You do want to stay relevant, right?
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>>172818282
please, any autist just standing still will do

better if they are a known whale
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>>172818687
This is why I'm glad they are finally cracking down on afk farm, it shouldn't be optimal to run the game in multiple virtual machines.
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>>172817987
Now that you mention it, I thought they fixed that too, but they probbly just fixed normal drops and not gold/silver drops.
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>>172818757
Go take one yourself you lazy jew fuck.
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>>172818843
no I can't I'm not at home

/r/ an anon to take a screenshot or share a screenshot of any autistic necro C3 afk farmer
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>>172818282
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>>172819042
thank you

all I need now is a bank account that has 100 billion silver in it to really sink in this meme
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>>172818759
IMC should ban any single nercomancer who dares to complain on forum
>wahhhhhhhhhhh you cutted Dina channels wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
>wahhhhhhhhh you increased spawn rate of Repaer in Dina wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Seriously any of this complain should be worth a ban and if they start to actually do it the population would rise too, because Necro AFK farmer in Dina are one of the core problem of ToS and a reason of massive game quits
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I don't want to blow all my money on attributes but I want to blow it on attributes. Halp.
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>>172818474
>>172818608
Welp. Guess Myrtis Helmet is back to being rarest?
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>>172819123
I need to dig out weeks of logs from a Discord i am in to find a screen of 400 millions silver stored inside an actual Necro alt account
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>>172819328
Either that or the Reindeer Antlers, not sure which.
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>>172819123
You can't store more than 400m silver in team storage. A character can only carry 200m.
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>>172819357
if you find an actual one, that'd be amazing but a shooped one will do
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>>172819468
>A character can only carry 200m.
So, what, we have to make multiple trips to buy attributes?
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>>172819473
The nerf and ban necros people are cancer. All they need to do is spread out the bees and make you drop silver when you die on that map, then player oracles can handle the rest.
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>>172819432
People used to oracle reset to get that, but since it's just a normal enemy it's still far easier to farm than Myrtis, since the DPK changes affect Panto Spearmen too.
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>>172819473
Why do people act like Necro is completely pointless? It doubles archer damage while providing some supplemental damage of its own as well as creating some little minions that eat up AoE ratio and can interrupt things in PvP. Sure it doesn't specialize in anything but it isn't Sadhu tier of pointless.
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Necro AFKers wouldn't be that bad if the game wasn't dead and there was an actual market for mats farmer.
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>>172819934
Necro afkers wouldn't be bad if there was more than one map you could afk on so people wouldn't get butthurt they couldn't get a spot.

Whatever happened to people happily leeching off necro sorcs in parties all day anyway? Are warlocks behind the resurgence in hate, trying to monopolize powerleveling?
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>>172820064
No, Necro AFKers are bad because there is no alive market for make good silvers with farming
Most of the silvers in game right now come from Bees
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can anyone provide just a picture of the team storage bank? doesn't have to have any real money in it
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The one thing i want for Rank 9 mostly: a good circle for Druid3
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>>172820580
That's a problem with the game not the players. Besides even if you farmed items, there wouldn't be any silver to trade if not for botters and bee farmers. You'd just have to accept talt and shards or sell your stuff for low prices.

>>172820712
Play the game.
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>>172820873
Fuck off, can't classes that're actually struggling have something? You stupid Diev Druid niggers are as bad as the fucking Doppelbabbies.
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>>172821204
But Druid is actually one of the classes in need of love, they are worth shit in party play
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>>172817865
You try to complain about having no goal other than leveling up, but you complain that the game is throwing too many goals at you at once so you insist on ignoring most of them. ToS's progression system failed specifically because it tried to accommodate retards like you. You ask for things that go against the game's concept and then complain when you get them.

Fleshing out the world with side quests is somehow uninteresting if it isn't part of endgame progression? Then you're not interested in stories to begin with, so it's not the game's fault you don't care about quest stories.

There's plenty of low level gear in this game that stays good for a long time or has cosmetic value, but you ignore it because it's not min maxer ultimate endgame gear. If you never replace the low level stuff then you have no gear to pursue later on and there's nothing to do.
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>>172820873
I might return to Fedi.
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>>172820712
anyone? just a wild screenshot of a team storage bank. need it for a meme. can't find one on google. especially one with 400m in it.
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>>172818178
You can't store transended weapons in the team storage?
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>>172821628
of course not
Thats why who plays more than one wizard or cleric craft a purple mace and than an orange weapon to trascend, the mace is for alts
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>>172821584
If you care that much to make a shitpost, you care enough to log on and take a shot yourself.
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Does the Arde dagger see any benefit from putting a red gem?

Also, when exactly should I be looking for actual gear and stop using 5 Hammer/Arde/Cafrisun set? My highest level character is 220.
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>>172821301
What's the story of Tree of Savior, and how do the endless fetch/kill quests in side zones tell that story?

Name a single piece of low level gear that you would upgrade, besides 5 hammer that's broken because of the retarded gym system.

>>172821292
You're right, a class that has near 100% uptime on invincibility, better damage than most actual damage classes, and healing is fucking worthless.
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What else does it need /tosg/?
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>>172822378
add an alshreya meme in there and maybe a dvine one then it might be solid
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>>172822579
don't have those on me sadly
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>>172822370
>Name a single piece of low level gear that you would upgrade
Gems in muh carfisun so I can wear it longer + upgrade it as high as possible.
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Is all plate armor the only option?
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>>172822370
There's a strong side story about the assassin eveniphon or whoever and another about demons trying to open the potral to Vaivora's library that's minor point in the Saule quest and related to the sidequest in the Klai farm areas where they're using the crops to gather up magic power. There's more stuff about hauberk in sidequests than the demon prison line. The sidequest for the second practo box gives a teaser of one of the demon kings.
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>>172822378
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is fedi dead
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>>172823545
their server has always been dead. you never even see them post on the general so I have no idea why they even add the guild in the OP.
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>>172821292

Wut, you can do 40f with turbo pass and stereah/ausrine intercalations

now try to do something with monk
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>>172822370
All of the sidequests have to do with whatever's going on in that zone, most of the time it's independent of the main story because it's a side zone, but ties into the story's history.

Vera Coast for example has you investigate sites to find what's wrong with the magic circles keeping the coast from splitting apart, and it's splitting is a result of Medzio Diena. You kill X enemies to gather their land/sea energy that the circles need to function.

ToS is one of the better examples of keeping old gear relevant, what are you on? Vubbe Fighter Gloves are still usable at level cap. Petamion and Agni are early-mid level items. Cafrisun, as that other anon mentioned holds up for a long time. And especially on a first playthrough, anvil'ing your weapon alone to +3 was a significant help before five-hammer became a thing.
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>>172822316

>220

worth a superior plate top/botton or grynas. 2x yellow gems on both, get aspersion buff and you're set to do rank 8 maps barely taking damage.

>red gem on arde

it's a very decent boost for physical dps classes. green works too, depends if you already have enough CR (swordsman usually struggles to get real good cr values)
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>>172822370
>What's the story of Tree of Savior
Do you want me to summarize the cutscene after character creation? They couldn't make it any more obvious.
>and how do the endless fetch/kill quests in side zones tell that story?
A ton of the sidequests are giving a slice-of-life view into what the survivors are going through after the apocalypse. Others drop clues about the setting's past and how the various ruins you explore came to be. Others expand on the demons' activities and show it's a broad war covering the whole country. Then the devs tossed in a bunch of "press buttons get exp cards" clutter because retards who don't read the quest text kept demanding more and more quests so they could get exp cards by clicking on NPCs instead of killing mobs.

>>172822370
>Name a single piece of low level gear that you would upgrade, besides 5 hammer that's broken because of the retarded gym system.
Agny, duh. It came from the dungeon that was level 115 and is far more broken than the 5hammer. Arde came from the 90 and was relevant at endgame until the new hunting grounds got added, which are all midlevel. Cafrisun and vubbe fighter gauntlets. Windrunners come from an 80ish zone and every world boss hunter wanted them before the unbalanced gems made them ideal for high level mdef.

In the midlevel range, -SP equipment like maga rod and the new hunting grounds armor serve certain high level builds. Max petamion is midlevel. Then there's things like anti-dark bracelets which are used to craft high level stuff instead of being upgraded themselves, but are still worth gathering and holding onto.

And we're only talking about serious investments here. I have a +10 west siauliai weapon for starting off alts that can't use 5hammer yet, and I used to toss a couple cheap anvils on lots of things before twink gear made alts so overpowered you have to fight things 20 levels above you to be at risk.
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any guilds recruiting?
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>>172823683
We post, don't worry
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>>172823683
They probably post more than CnL and Comfy members.
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>>172824656
nice falseflag
no one here plays on fedishit
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>>172824737
Nice meme
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>>172824434
Futureproof is. Whisper ApplyAFineHorse3 or send a friend request.
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>>172824773
I play on the EU server. I can't find this person. I tried whispering.
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>>172824872
Wrong server retard
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>>172824872
>EU
Klaipeda's the thread default server so you have to specify your server if you're talking about another one. Go find out if Capyba is still alive and have your way with her.
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>>172824969
How could I know? He didn't say what server.
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>See a newbie Highlander at very low health being chased by enemies
>Try to kill the enemies to save them
>Their Cartar Stroke knocks the enemy out of my attack's range
>They die

Oh...
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>>172824170
>you have to fight things 20 levels above you to be at risk.

>Go on alt
>Put on good gear
>Fight enemy 21 levels above
>take 12000 damage a hit
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>>172825027
Should I just roll the NA server then? I don't see a reason to roll EU if there's no one here from the server.
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>>172825028
By reading the OP?
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>>172825462
If you want to fall for the meme of EUropeans playing on NA sure
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>>172825545
Why is it a meme? I was just asking if any guilds recruiting and only NA people respond.

>>172825478
Well he replied before I did. Fair enough.
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>>172825703
Because there are people from here playing in EU
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>>172820972
Selling stuff for low prices wouldn't be an issue because my silver would have more buying power due to no afk silver in the economy. Then the money I saved on buying shards at lower price makes up for attribute cost being static and selling items at lower prices.
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>>172825703
Just pm Capyba
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>>172825926
Your silver would never be able to afford upgrades, potions, rerolls, or attributes.
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>>172826061
Do they have room and/or do they need a specific class? Don't wanna be useless to you guys.
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>>172826193
There is space
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>>172826189
and furthermore shard price wouldn't change either. You'd just be able to but less shards.
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>>172825703
If you don't mind doing most of activities at night then roll on Klai. Also don't believe you will get invited to CnL because they invite only whales and normies now.
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>>172826238
Don't need any specific classes?
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should I buy shards now or later after the necro's CRASH?
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>>172826330
Do they even post here? I am sure most their actual members don't even lurk here
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>>172826407
Sell all your shards now before they make trans worthless and no one bothers with it anymore.
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>>172826426
We do post but not too often. New members are crimson and normies so they obviously don't even know what /tosg/ is.
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>>172826393
No, we don't need you at all.
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>>172826393
Not really, need squire/pardoner alts for boss hunts but other than that maybe pvp minigames classes but pvp in ToS isn't that amazing shit, it's trash and not fun at all
We have little to no archers though
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>>172826889
>>172826927
Well I'll ask around elsewhere then. Thanks.
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>>172826783
Basically there are more Fedimeme posters than CnL posters, kek
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>>172827015
>getting baited by shitposting like >>172826889
Wew anon
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>>172827015
There is no ask around elsewhere in Fedimian
It's either Coffee or normies or Klaipeda reroll your 2 am for dailies or enjoy the ghostown because everyone else sleep
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>>172827045
There's more than 3 CnL posters in this thread anon.
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>>172826189
Except we already bought all that stuff before necro farmers existed. Fuck off.
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>>172827015
>You can freely roll a Wugucuteshi
>not getting the chance to roll it
Why you have to be a retard anon?
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>>172827685
No you didn't because necro farming existed before shards.
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>>172827725
This, a Wugu3 would be great for farming certain boss hunts
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>>172827792
I also realize I wrote "rerolls" instead of "shards" in >>172826189
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>>172827792
>upgrades, potions, rerolls, or attributes
None of those are shards, you illiterate turd. Besides, I get my shards from saalus and sell the spares.
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>>172827345
>>172827209
>>172827725
I mean like a normie guild. Rather join a guild that is active than be a filler for empty space.

Don't like archers and he said for boss hunts. Anyone can join boss hunts, meaning they need the class I want to play.

Thanks, bye.
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so, what are the thoughts on a PVP-viable wugu?
stats - circles / items?
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>>172827896
see >>172827869

Rerolls aren't a purchasable thing either, even if I hadn't made that typo. Thus you didn't buy that either.
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>>172827991
don't need*
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>>172715954
sluts
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>>172828050
Rerolls are purchased from cubes for silver. Do you even play the game? Shard rerolls don't count because the reroll cost is much higher than the market value so nobody rerolls them.
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>>172827991
If you want real active guilds then you have to reroll on Klaipeda, go look at Fedimian PvP results or dig for the 2-3 Fedimian guilds complaining they feel alone on their servers because no one does fuck nothing there in the forums
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Oh no, the biggest autistic EU player started lurking /tosg/ again
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>>172828467
Thanks, will do. If it is as bad as say I will. So far if this is the only guild that /tosg/ has on that server and they don't give two shits about recruiting then there's no reason to even bother with the server. At least you NA guys responded.
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>>172828589
>he seriously falling for Klaipeda baiting
You might regret it or not but go ahead, have fun, but don't expect any tryhard normie guild to invite an EU unless he is gonna play really late night for anything
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>>172828741
>fedicuck lying in /tosg/ again
at least he'll play with his guild tho lol
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>>172828408
I still meant shards though. Cube rolls don't matter at all.
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Gohei 1
Sweeping 1
Hamaya 5
Clap 4
Kagura 4

or

Gohei 1
Sweeping 1
Hamaya 4
Clap 4
Kagura 5

or

Gohei 1
Sweeping 1
Hamaya 5
Clap 3
Kagura 5

?
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No wonder EU anons are leaving /tosg/, everytime you retards have to shitpost them to death
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>>172829067
You also realize why the thread is so dead too.
>>
>Anon asks for guild.
>NA gives instant response.
>EU fags give no response.
>Becomes clear anon is EU.
>Still no EU response.
>NA has to tell him who to whisper.
>EU shitters finally respond.
>Tell him they don't want him anyway lol
>Anon decides to reroll on NA server.
>"LOL ULL REGRET IT YOU AUTISTIC FAGGOT"
>"this thread is so ded cos u NA guise shitpost on every EU, we da victims"

wew it's pretty obvious why EU is so dead
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>>172829379
>>Tell him they don't want him anyway lol
That was obvious shitpost from NA, maybe from (You)
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>>172829379
It's true NA shitpost on EU constatly
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>>172829067
Shitposters are shitposters, regardless of country, time, or anything.

Even in its prime, this has been tosg's dead hour, and since there's less players overall now it's even more barren. tosg's EU presence has always been significantly smaller than its NA presence.
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>>172829379
You are just proving the point of NA retards like you shitposting to death EU anons, why the fuck they would relate to people like you if you don't even consider them as /tosg/, they have no reason to come here if there is 0 game discussion but constant NA shitting on EU
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>>172752714
please respond
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>>172830201
no, now fuck off with the EU "we da victims" retards
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kek

story?
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>>172830269
But I'm an EU player playing on NA.
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>>172830482
No you aren't
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>>172830201
I can't cheer up when I see terrible anime like that.
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>>172830482
Fuck off autist, go back to lurking.
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Well I'm level 40 now on this new server. I'll try to PM that guy tomorrow. Didn't realize asking one question would lead into this kind of shit show.
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>>172831463
>He seriously rerolled on Klaipeda from EU
Ayy lmao
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>>172831463
If you are going to tryhard oversea you should go on Silute, the most active NA server.
Only downside is it's the most populated by BRs.
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>>172831463
go back on EU, we don't want your kind in our guild
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You know, I think if I ended up in the universe of ToS somehow, I'd totally powerlevel to max so I could go around and molest all the cute girls with impunity.

I'd go broke buying all those eggs, though...
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>>172832715
>I think if I ended up in the universe of ToS somehow
You'd die from a falling turtle and have your soul fed to the godtree.
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>>172832715
>not wanting to be the girl
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>>172833930
*unzips clit*
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Futureproof is recruiting
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CoffeeHouse is recruiting
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Is bullies recruiting?
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>>172835989
Ask on /r/bullies_tos

This thread is for tosg guilds only (don't forget to remove CnL from the OP btw).
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>>172836193
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looking for a mmo to play, any recommendations?
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fuck off this is a dead game and dead general
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>>172841097
Tree of Savior.
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>>172822378
Pretty good.
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>farm for BB
>get this instead
How wonder how mad that guy is.
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It's a shit gem, even if pyro is now the new meme. It's just a few seconds extra which is not worth the gem slot.
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>>172842263
That's what make getting it instead of BB even worse.
>>
>>172842263
this
>>172842041
>weapon slot or boot slot
maybe if it would be glove slot, but that is not worth using
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>>172842404
Wizards use wind runners with 3 sockets.
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>farming battle bracelet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUIhgNfgF7I
do it right for once
>>
I'm soon reaching R6. Is it still worth going Necro or not?
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>>172842468
yes and they use 3 mdef gems in them. better than a few sec flameground.

normal glove gems suck for wizards, so monstergem, even if its a weak one, can be used.
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>>172842695
>mdef
Nobody cares about minigames and in PVE nobody cares about def.
A single extra hit of FG is 25k extra damage.
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>>172842825
>in PVE nobody cares about def
lol
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>>172842825
FG duration is already good

blue gem > that trash monster gem
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>>172826193
Blue gem is like +250 damage with all agny multipliers while extra tick of FG is potentially 70k damage depending on your trans tier isn't it?
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>>172842630
No.
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>>172822378
1) if you think necro can get rich easy, why are you not doing it too?
2) stfu and make a necro and get rich if you think it's that easy
3) whinning like a retarded baby won't get you far in life, either do something about it or stfu about this shit, it's getting old. Make a necro yourself and farm and see if it's true for yourself
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>>172843594
Are you telling me to start working instead of blaming someone else because I'm poor?
How dare you!
>>
>it's another "necro afk faggot responding to himself" episode
>>
wait is it actually possible to get the second practo box? I know that the quest was in the game but it was missing some mats or something, but I've seen it mentioned in the general several times.
I'm really desperate to acquire a practo
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>>172844421
The missing recipe drops from a high level guild boss.
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>>172844421
Yes
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>>172843574
Does that happen to all maps? ;_; I can't believe it.

I'm currently Wiz3Psycho2. Can I still save this build? I was going Necro3.
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>>172844465
it drops from multiple guid events and most of them are easy as fuck unless you guild is really that dead
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>>172844581
LOL
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>>172844764
Your guild can't get 5-10 man with welfare gear for 90 minutes fight of a single boss dropping several copies of the cube recipe? wew lad
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>>172844853
absolute retard
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>>172844581
my guild is really that dead
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>>172844518
So far I know it happened to bees and demon prison district 2.
Grim reaper is killable and it should respawn once a week or when channel crashes. Anyway don't go for necro3, even if someone will get rid of the reaper I'll be there to kill you myself.
I don't really know anything about kinos, sorry anon.
>>172844764
>>172844967
You can always buy the cube from new Crimson :^)
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>>172844764
>>172844967
y u mad tho?
>>
did performance really improve at all or is this updated on January just a load of shit?
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>>172844967
>he doesn't know
>he call others retards
wew lad, still not going to spoonfeed, it's really really easy to get that cube
Getting the papers from some of the hidden quest is the real hard part and takes also more time
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>>172845315
>spoonfeed
Braindead autist.
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>capy and his beta orbiters still shitposting the general
why the fuck do I read this general during EU times
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@172845659
k famalam
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>wew lad
>famalam
>autist
>y u mad
>retard
it's capy & autist spam hour again
>>
>someone asks question
>answers are posted
>some retard is all butthurt and calling random names
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>capy gets exposed for the faggot he is again
>r-random names
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im not capy. he is a fag. dont think they do raids

y u mad, nigga?
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Is it true that you get more EXP solo queueing than in a 4-man party if you can't get a 5th one?
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>someone asks question
>answers are posted
>fedicucked ESL barges in and spergs out
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>>172846612
Yes, you need the full party / class bonus to make it worth it.
>>
>i-it's not me
>w-we don't even do them
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>>172846778
i really am not that fag and dont care if and why you hate them, nigga.
there shit guild is ded. they cant do shit like that.
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>>172846854
It's not even about the guild being dead, dumbass.
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>>172846959
and im not on there fucking EU server. i give 0 shits about them or you. fuck off and jerkoff to that fag elsewhere.
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what is ESL? this one autis keeps using it
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>>172847059
>"autis"
THIS is ESL.
>>
>>172822378
9/10 just add alsheyra and will be perfect
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>>172846706
>class bonus
Forgot about that too. Thanks.
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>>172847046
Nobody cares about the server dumbo, the initial question was about the source of the mystical recipe.
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@172846854
>it's really not me
>my guild is- I mean there guild is ded
lol
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>>172847265
>the initial question was about the source of the mystical recipe.
And that has been answered.
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>>172847134
share pic?
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>>172847059
English as a Second Language. You know, like with you.
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>>172847578
That's a pretty fucking stupid shorthand. We all know who the real autismo here really is. The little millenial who uses phone shorthand on an imageboard.

>l-like you!
Ooh mister millenial.
>>
I wish I liked this game. I should, but I don't and I don't know why.
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>>172848138
Because it's trash
>>
I speak English as my third language so this ESL doesn't even apply to me. I'm darn proud of my education and my mother language. From what I've seen most people who speak English as their first language tend to be lazy and grammatically incorrect with it most of the time. They simply 'think' they have a firm grasp of the language as a birth right, when in fact they write and talk on the same level of a fifth grader.

In short, saying ESL is far from an insult. Just makes you look like a little child when you utter it, Fedicuck.
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>putting effort in anonymous shitposts on 4chin in a dead general which will be deleted all 2-3 days anyways
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You really have nothing better to do eh?
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>it's NA arguing with an NA trying to falseflag EU episode
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@172848634
>it wasn't me shitposting, really
>I was in ET the whole time
fucking EU trash fuck off
>>
>it's NA arguing with an NA trying to falseflag EU while the real EU just ignore the retards episode
>>
It's EU hours. This is all EU posting, retard.
>>
>it's fag arguing with an fag trying to falseflag fag while the other fag just ignore the retards episode
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>>172849175
true.
NA or SEA niggas can not be awake now.
>>
>it's EU fags thinking they are relevant but get completely ignored once NA fags enter the general episode
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>>172849175
but I thought EU was dead?
Who is posting then?
>>
>>172849452
ghosts
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>>172849452
Capy obviously. See >>172848634
The faggot cannot help himself.
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Why can't the continents conciliate?
>>
>post once, fedicucks go into paranoid mode
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Go play the game
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>>172851190
Nah, I'm having more fun making sure the new coat of paint I put on my walls doesn't run.
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>>172851190
No thanks, this game is a poop.
>>
Maid Cafe in OP when?
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>>172851423
well, thats important, if you do an half assed job with paint you would need to start again
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>>172851630
>tfw you've been doing a half assed job with your life but you can't start again
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju2rNwbvzc0
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>>172851581
But they aren't /tosg/ i think
>>
poor fedicucks have to join other non-tosg guilds to do ET
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>>172852861
Everyone is /tosg/ now, thanks to Mr Cats
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what a fucking sad state this game is, more I spend time here the more apparent it becomes
>>
>>172828046
Wugushi's are the best PvP class IMO.

Do Archer 3, Wugu 3, Scout, Mergen.

Archer 3 for max heavy shot specifically, and twin arrow. Full STR because accuracy needs can be met easily with gear. HP too, and you'll want your poison ticks to do as much damage as possible since people have antidotes.

Before people antidote, even with autopot, your poisons with good gear should deal a good 30k damage within the first second each, so you're guaranteed instant kills when your poisons land. Now that poison can go through Prophecy, Wugushi in PvP is at its maximum potential.

You of course want a two handed bow, and you'll want leather gloves for the accuracy, preferably Hasta leather gloves since they're pretty cheap. The rest of your armor should be plate. Use Agny's as your necklace because it does wonders for your poisons, and for your rings use whatever gets you the most MDEF.

Good luck, and remember to play as a hit and run type fighter. Wugushi shines when it comes to guerilla warfare!
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>>172828046
Also, I forgot to mention that the reason poison does so much damage in PvP is because it ignores PvP damage reduction for some reason, which is why you should capitalize on that strength and focus solely on maximizing its damage potential.
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>>172854272
It's just /tosg/
>>
what is the best guild on fedi
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>>172855275
>/tosg/ is the cause of the shitty end game, horrible leveling, and abysmal class balance
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>>172856150
Coffee
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>>172856375
lol
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>>172854313

wugushi without hunter kills literally no one
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How many days of ET 5f I need to do to get a cloth gloves?
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>>172857419
You need 12 cubes
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>>172857038
Other guilds are trash!
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>>172857749
this game is trash, and there's like 10 guilds total in this game
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>>172857104
Uhmm... That's not true!
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>>172858127
but you dont even play anymore
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>>172857467

So... 6 days doing two runs + rerolls?
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>>172857419
>>172857467
You need 14 cubes.
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>>172859089

Ok, 14 cubes? I think that farming dungeons and buying it will be cheaper/faster lol
>>
How long would it take to hit 330 from 285? Trying to hit 330 for the tp in time, but it doesn't seem likely.
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>>172862324

Considering all the cookies, statues and resets... hit 290 and burn everthing at the 290 dungeon asap. After that, do lv 14 card quests. It's doable anon. I believe in you. What's your build?
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>>172862762
I'm a Fletcher3Mergen. Think my resets expired, but I have some resets from past maintenance failures. I'm free all day so I'll give it a shot.
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>caring about shitpost
>in a dead general

lmao
>>
>>172864923
>Caring about a general
>From a dead game
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>>172865050
this is also true lol
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>>172857467
>>172857419
Not just that, you also need the item that drops from the boss to craft the gloves and it only drops one per run, meaning that you will need to do 20 runs anyway.
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>stop posting
>come back
.10 posts in 5 hours
dead game, dead general and you need me
yes I'm exactly who you think I am
>>
I used to think that Wiz3 Kino3 was the most boring and unnecessary Kino build since you could finish almost anyone with just theurge+ice wall with pressure without ever needing quick cast back in the day, but now that mdef was buffed I believe that It became the best Kino build for pvp given that you have really good equipment and attribute.
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>>172865576
Fuck off Kirito.
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>>172865576
Fuck off Capyba
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>>172865576
DVINE?
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>>172820580
>Most of the silvers in game right now come from Bees
Implying.
See pic related.
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I'm so vital to this general I make each and every one of you posters paranoid, angry and spam autism for hours. If I go your general will be boring again with nothing but autismal attempts at insults.
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Celvant stop using our memes on the forum, no one gives a fuck about Necromancers but salty people like you
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>>172865748

not really true because wiz 3 amplies your final damage... so it doesn't actually help you to bypass enemy mdef... but when it does... yeah, it helps a bit.

What I found is... if I bypass enemy mdef, even by a small margin like 200 damage/tick, he's dead on one raise unless he's the retard type who transcend all his gear to reach 120k hp

or he just has so much mdef that all I can doo is CC and let my team help.

What is really interesting is wiz 3 + sage skills, that shit hurts thanks to very high base damage
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>>172865576
Fuck off Celvant
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>>172866179

most silver com from DP 2 invocation
>>
>our memes
I made that Necromeme for fun. It's pure OC. Look how much fun the forum is having with it. Even you're having fun with it. You can't stop me from having fun Slashley and/or/maybe Clarion. I will continue lurking and making shoops.
>>
IMC SHOULD REMOVE

>>>>>>>>>>>>>10 EARTH PROPERTY RESIST

FROM AWAKENINGS
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>>172865748
If you have really good equipment and attribute, the only way to go for pvp is pyro 2 linker kino 3 sage.

If you don't intend to have good equipment and prefer to just stack mdef the cheese pvp build for that is cryo 1 linker 1 kino 3 ff2
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>>172866379
>not really true because wiz 3 amplies your final damage...
It amplifies your matk as a whole. If your magic attack is 6k it will became 9k with quick cast.

>What is really interesting is wiz 3 + sage skills, that shit hurts thanks to very high base damage
Yes but sage skills are garbage due to being hard to hit, having a very long animation and after cast, not being multi hit and also being slow as fuck. Dark Theurge may have a much smaller base damage, but it hits 25 times at level 5, is a fire and forget skill and is one of the faster burst damages in the wiz tree.
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Just delete necros from the game already.
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>>172866179
Is this supposed to be serious? The amount of silver isn't the issue, it's the amount of silver gained for invested effort. 72 mill is a hell of a lot of money to be entering the economy for doing nothing.
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So anyway is game good now? I just been lurking. This is my picture btw, my catagoon using bee scroll. OC, do not steal or use. My meme. Back off Slashley.
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>>172867545

Nope, anon. Quickcast does nothing to your matk. It amplifies your final numbers. In a sense this is good because it works on your skill damage (formula is basically matk+skill damage), and then quickcast comes and multiply this by 1,5

>>172867735
he said pyro linker kino 3, anon.

Also, pyro is also not very good for pvp because agny...works like QC. Mutiply your final number. Fireball has 300 base damage. It takes a stage 6 to actually hit things on pvp on a full con build.
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>>172867735
Learn to read
You don't have to choose one or the other, you can have both

>>172868048
>pyro is also not very good for pvp... It takes a stage 6
Hence why it needs REALLY good equipment, but if you do then it's the most versatile and deadly kino build. That said, not many would like to fund a minigames character so deeply which is why the cryo1 linker kino 3 ff variant is more popular since it's almost like cheating and has lower equipment requirement
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>>172866818
Keep posting.
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>>172867545
>It amplifies your matk as a whole. If your magic attack is 6k it will became 9k with quick cast.
I never played a wiz3 the post
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>>172867885
well other than silly necro shenanigans I can't think of anything else to meme about. started browsing since friday and saw a lot of anal devastation about necros so it felt appropriate.
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>>172868563
That hairstyle looks pretty ugly
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>>172869126
meant4 >>172868563
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>dilgele
>800 silver
>requires two to make 5 potions
>sell potions for 500 silver
>muh alchemist can't make money

LOL
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>get the awakening you want after 6 attempts
>it's a complete trash roll
KIM
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>>172869569
>sell potions for 500 silver
isn't it a lot less now?

also, market fee?
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meme
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>>172870242

I'm selling lv 5 potions (alch c1).
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>>172869273
It's cute!
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Please don't stop the namedrops you Fedicucks
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This game is still technically in beta? Couldn't they just wipe all the servers and restart them? Think I could make a meme about that. Fresh New Start Server! Also please be angry about something. This is getting boring.
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>>172873235
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No one cares, not even this Slashley
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