/ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station

Lewd Birbs

First for probe is a fag.

Hi-jacking this thread.

>>172674675
>>172673361
>>172673564

That guy writes nothing like me. You people haven't been exposed to me for so long (possibly never were) that you call anyone who disagrees with you
that uses big words "Sarca". The guy you are responding to sounds like he is taking the piss out of you and not at all being serious. I'm actually serious
most of the time. Here is something I wrote recently for SS13, that shows how I actually write. Well, when I'm not sleep deprived, dehydrated, and hungry as
I am now. Notice the differences. CTRL F "In terms of"

https://hippiestation.com/threads/the-fate-of-camille-driggers.6163/page-6

It's time for you to let go of the past.

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Nth for mommis

>>172710274
And here is an excerpt:

>While it is true the average IQ of Hippiestation is probably around 90-95, and you are probably smarter than that, in order to be superior, you have to be smarter than everyone. As a matter of fact, I would say you are not smart at all. Intelligent people don't make the kinds of arguments that you make in this thread, especially with the goal of defending themselves. You use reasoning that is predicated on false premises, as well as occasionally just using outright false reasoning. You are not using the best possible arguments to defend yourself, you're not even using decent arguments. A smart person would realize that the best mechanism for getting goals accomplished is the truth, not lies and misrepresentation. Anyone with an IQ above 115 is able to immediately recognize what you are doing, once they have, your end goal of making yourself look better falls flat on its face. You don't present yourself the way a smart person would, your thoughts and expressions lack the sense of organization, thoughtfulness, and clarity that smart people's thoughts have.

Note the differences.

>>172670032
>scans things the normal one can't
>stores more designs maybe
There's also supposedly a syndie device scanner which is even more unrestricted.

>>172710539
>https://hippiestation.com/threads/the-fate-of-camille-driggers.6163/page-6
sarca has an odd fetish for IQ huh?
sounds like someone who got told they were 'gifted' early on in school and then went on to do nothing, still desperately clinging on to their 'specialness'

>>172710754
>get told I was gifted early on
>everyone always told me how smart I was
>turn into a slacker neet dropout

H-haha

>>172710754
How else am I supposed to rank people in terms of intelligence? Adding a number to it makes it easier to understand. I don't even think I'm that smart, I am just smart enough to be considered smart. 130+ but nowhere near the 145 range which is where the real interesting people come in. In the same thread I go on to say that there's a player who could potentially be much smarter than me too.

xth for remove peacekeeper borg tazer

>>172710754
a prime example of why the bunker should stay up the next time hippie falls to chaos as to keep their refugees out

>>172711034
probably best just not to rank other people, makes your childhood designation of 'gifted' the double-edged sword that is early diagnosis anti-social disorder and autism before the spectrum became as ... lenient as it is today.

>>172711034
>Peacekeeper borg

Wow, this server really has become a joke. There's nothing wrong with Security Cyborgs actually arresting people. Behavior is not dictated by laws in the sense that you think it is. Asimov acts as a set of restrictions, not as a set of guidelines. That means that a Security Cyborg can go around arresting people so long as it doesn't violate the restrictions. This doesn't preclude using the laws as justification for action, but not every cyborg action needs to have a law-based justification. Once you understand that, you understand that cyborgs should have a tendency to function the way the module they selected allows them to function. Nobody complains about Engineerborgs or Janitorborgs when they fix holes and clean floors, only Secborgs. Why? It's not hard to understand. Unrobust children mad they got wrecked by a borg.

Protip: Use a laser pointer.

>>172712070
It's not the secborg function, it's the shitters who ignore Asimov and think they answer to security over other players

it's all well and good to say you can ahelp the secborg who arrests you for telling them to unbolt the vault but it still fucks you for that round

>>172712482
>ahelp the secborg who arrests you for telling them to unbolt the vault
there is literally nothing wrong with that though.
What you need to do is add "Don't tell anyone about this or arrest me for it"
so hard. And I never even play borg

>>172711881
>probably best just not to rank other people
I understood this part.
>makes your childhood designation of 'gifted' the double-edged sword that is early diagnosis anti-social disorder and autism before the spectrum became as ... lenient as it is today.
I didn't understand this part. It's a pretty bad run on sentence. I don't have autism or anti-social disorder, I am psychologically healthy. Abnormal, but not suffering from any disorder.

>>172712482
If it's not the Secborg function that is the problem then why was it removed? It was removed right? Or is this just a rename?

>It's not the secborg function, it's the shitters who ignore Asimov and think they answer to security over other players

I could make a pretty good case that they DO answer to Security over other players but like I said, I'm not at peak capacity and am feeling retarded right now, so I won't. I guess I'll give you a sentence or so and you can take the argument and run with it.

Cyborgs don't have access to all information on station. In order to successfully identify harmful elements, they need to co-operate with people on the station who have that knowledge. The group who has that knowledge is Security, and so in determining whether or not a person is, is likely, or has a strong potential to be harmful, it's beneficial to listen to Security over some random Assistant. This is also why they listen to the AI, who has much more information than the average player. Cyborgs just co-operate with those who have the most amount of relevant information regarding human harm, which they must not allow.

>>172713069
Yeah I just misspelled cooperate a ton of times so..yeah I'm going to bed.

>>172712070
This is why we changed the name. Because bozos say "Well I know it says in big red text dont follow space law but really that doesn't apply to me"

It makes it all the easier to remove shitters

>>172713446
>Well I know it says in big red text dont follow space law but really that doesn't apply to me
Remove them, easy done
Doesn't matter what their job title is, that's a retarded excuse. It's literally "im blind irl" tier

>>172713662
>removing something because 1% of players are shitters
they'll just be shitters with something else no need to make the rest pay because of them

>>172713446
Right but that's a stupid change, as it only introduces further misinterpretations from those on the opposite side of the camp who claim that cyborgs shouldn't EVER arrest people. Most of the time cyborgs who arrest people are doing so validly.

>Security gives a vague order to arrest suspicious people at the start of the round.
>There is no "expiration" on this order, it is always a valid order
>Some guy hacking into a secure area
>You arrest him and he orders you to let him go
>Now you have two conflicting orders
>There is no way to actually resolve a conflict of orders in Asimov
>Logic says to side with Security, not the sketchy Assistant breaking into places
>Take him to the brig
>ABUSE ABUSE ABUSE LAW 2 VIOLATION!! ADMINS BAN HIM

Would not surprise me if some actual innocent borg players were banned or had admin intervention for this kind of shit. I don't think I have ever been abused by a Secborg in the manner the whiny anti-borgers complaing about, and I play on fucking Hippiestation.

man I remember that one round the borgs started hiding insulated gloves at roundstart and lied about it when asked, but other than that I haven't had problems with them

>>172714013
>logic says
no I'm pretty sure this is exactly why we did it. you don't do conflicting orders. you do sequential orders.

that's it.

stop trying so hard to loophole.

>>172713924
That's exactly what I'm saying. There's no need to remove secborgs because 1% of them are "the rules don't apply to me" shitters.

https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14493
>Brings back flavor text, two hours ago

>>172714296
>no I'm pretty sure this is exactly why we did it. you don't do conflicting orders. you do sequential orders.
There is no actual way to resolve this in Asimov. Please point out where it says in the Asimov law set that the last order given has more validity than all other orders. It doesn't say that, there is no way to resolve a conflict in orders using your laws. You have to use another means of figuring it out, judgment and logic.

>>172714013
>There is no way to actually resolve a conflict of orders in Asimov
yes there is.
>Borg, arrest suspicious people
Okay
>See assistant
>He is acting suspicious
>arrest him by stunning and placing the cuffs on him
You have now arrested him.
>Assistant then tells you to let him go
You have completed your previous order. Now complete the next one.

>>172714367
we didn't.

>>172714531
That's detaining, not arresting. Arresting would require that the person actually be brought to the brig.

>>172714531
arrest could also mean detain and put into custody for the record
>seize (someone) by legal authority and take into custody.

>>172714618
Who are you to define what arrest is?

>>172714435
oh god

>>172714594
We did.

>>172714618
And even then, if what you are saying was true (it's not), then it wouldn't be a conflict, and my point still stands, you can't resolve.
>>172714667
Do you need help idiot? Google arrest definition.

>seize (someone) by legal authority and take into custody.

Note the take into custody part.

>>172714618
No because detaining means that while you are not allowed to go, you are simply there for questioning about a crime or event. Arresting means that your rights are suspended and you are taken to jail for charging.

>>172714783
Should the borg at least ask them to come peacefully? sec should use hailers so should borgs have them too?

>>172714875
that's a good idea
i don't play borgos so i didn't even know they dont have them

>>172714824
So you agree with me then?
>>172714875
No, because asking people to come peacefully does not result in a 100% success rate, tasing does. You have a risk of failing to fulfill your order and breaking Law 2 by asking them peacefully.

>>172714783
>take into custody.
Yes, you have taken the person into your custody and are now bringing him to the brig. You have arrested him. If he tells you to let him go, and he is a human, and he hasn't done anything to make you believe PROBABLE harm may occur, you should let him go.

>>172708440
I coded maple syrup
I have no fucking clue if the check is necessary, I tried every permutation of code that exists for healing and none of them made any difference, all of them healed (albeit at different rates?)

>>172715865
>different rates
Are you sure that's not just the prob checks working?

>>172715037
Okay, he's in the brig, and now the Warden has him. You try to take him away and the Warden orders you to stop. What have you accomplished by purposefully acting like an autist and siding with a griefing greytider for no reason? If you want to play stupid little word games, I can do that too. Why not come back in thirty years and release him then? After all, he never specified a time frame. Orders are interpreted the way that humans interpret them, that is how things go 99% of the time. Why should we make a special exception for some griefing fucktard?

>>172714960
>No, because asking people to come peacefully does not result in a 100% success rate, tasing does. You have a risk of failing to fulfill your order and breaking Law 2 by asking them peacefully.
But asking them peacefully results in the least amount of human harm, which is more important.

>>172715960
Oh no, I'm pretty sure I know why probability checks exist, they make tricord and DD fucking awful for healing (and I believe they mean you only heal one thing at a time but which type is random)
Maple syrup actually heals a bunch because it heals them all at once, with no chance of failing.

>>172714494
>>172714296
If we're going by the wiki, two conflicting law 2 orders cancel each other out. Maybe this should be on the rules page if silicons are expected to follow that though.

>>172715964
>siding with a griefing greytider for no reason?
Well, it appears that you have a mindset re. silicons that has earned a great many jobbans in the past.

>>172715964
>siding with a griefing greytider for no reason?
I'm not whoever you're arguing with and I haven't read more than halfway back the conversation, but you don't side with anyone. Your job isn't to help sec or the antag or the greytider. There is only the law(s). If you're going to start being a shitcan with "well he didn't say WHEN I SHOULD DO IT" (which also goes directly against "orders are interpreted the way that humans interpret them" because people are expected to have some measure of common sense), you're going to have a short silicon career.
Don't make special exceptions for anyone, just follow your laws.

>>172716149
Stunning causes no harm so... don't miss.
>>172716182
Wiki is not an authoritative source on jack shit. And that doesn't even make sense. How can those two orders cancel each other out? They are binary states. To be arrested, or not arrested. There doesn't exist a third option.
>>172716270
>Well, it appears that you have a mindset re. silicons that has earned a great many jobbans in the past.
Not an argument.
>>172716278
>I haven't read more than halfway back the conversation..
Wow, it shows, because you completely misunderstand what it is we are talking about. Don't try to lecture me on how things work, I know much more than you do. Read or shut up.

I said

>Security gives a vague order to arrest suspicious people at the start of the round.
>There is no "expiration" on this order, it is always a valid order
>Some guy hacking into a secure area
>You arrest him and he orders you to let him go
>Now you have two conflicting orders

There is no way to resolve two conflicting orders by Asimov. Telling people to "just follow your laws" in this situation is useless advice. You HAVE to side with someone, because you have no mechanism by which to resolve the situation using. Logically you pick Security, because you are a Security cyborg and this person is committing a crime. It's not hard to understand

>If you're going to start being a shitcan with "well he didn't say WHEN I SHOULD DO IT"
No, this is in response to the other person saying that arresting someone is just cuffing them and standing still doing nothing. They argue that if given an order to arrest someone, that is an appropriate thing to do. This is exactly why I say:

>orders are interpreted the way that humans interpret them

Any such order can be purposefully misinterpreted that way, which is why the above holds true. Why don't you read you idiot? Do you enjoy getting shit on and making a fool of yourself?

>>172716927
>How can those two orders cancel each other out?
You act like they both don't exist and you default to preventing harm. Doesn't sound that complex to me.

>>172717078
You can do that, you can also do a number of other things.
The precedent is that so long as you're consistent, it's okay. You could follow the most recent order, try and follow both, not follow either, follow the one that seems most sane, etc.

>>172717078
That doesn't work.

Order 1: Arrest him.
Order 2: Don't arrest me!

If they cancel each other out, then what you are doing is actually fulfilling order 2 if you start to walk away. Actually, it could be anything.

>>172717243
You don't have to DISOBEY order 2, just act like it doesn't mean anything.

Guys I have an ad-revenue suggestion

What if you made a twitch channel, called it "Space TV." It's just a bot that spectates the spacemen who are currently having the most action.

give botany tips pls
I already know how to get a plant mutation 100% if there is one (like tomato -> blue tomato)

>>172717967
You mean the channel that every metagaming shitbird is watching so they can ghost the guy having the most fun and robust him?

>>172718493
>caring about that
Wouldn't do much good unless you're right there as the action is happening.
Besides, think of the twitch bux that could be had.

Alternatively, it could record a match and then play it back after it's finished.

>>172718647
No to live rounds
yes to playing recorded rounds

That round was shit.

ON YOUR FEET SOLDIER
WE
ARE
LEAVING

>>172718736
>>172718647
Live rounds is a no-no but previous rounds seems good

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Ride the Tiger brah

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Grand Union Leader did nothing wrong.

>kill carsh as xeno on wiz round
>https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14495
is this an april fools joke
am I an april fool

Why don't we have Bomberman Squads anymore?

>>172710294
Has no one made MOMMI sized mechs that mice can drive around?

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>>172719391
>anarcho-suffix memester
>does the thoughtcrime gulag thing anyway

>>172717382
Also to clarify my position, you wouldn't have to disobey EITHER of the orders. You can arrest him or no as long as it's consistent with preventing harm. With canceling orders it actually gives you a lot of freedom.

>>172719843
They were National-Syndicalist which is supposed to just be Fascism before it's swing towards the right. I have no clue what they were doing.

How the fuck do you get coins? Withdrawing fractions from the ATM does nothing.

>>172721179
You need the coin press on the mining station

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>when someone tells me that I'm very good at my job

>>172721179
>coin that starts out on the holodeck
>getmore cholocate vending machine
>coin that starts in the QM office
>grab a trader by their feet and shake them
>coin maker on the mining outpost

>>172721269
DR. ACULA WHERE

LITERALLY UNLIMITED COINS

>" i need to go bye eat memes every day " is not an acceptable reason to join as the RD, make an announcement then immediately quit.

>>172721574
what a fucking legend.

>>172721715
Announcements don't seem very legendary.

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>tfw you haven't been bested in the arena yet

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>>172721917
wanna fite?

>>172722141
>not being a pure boy who can rely on his fists
typical.................

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hey, pompadoor man who shoots locker here

>>172722249
pussying out little cuntboi?

>when you're an atmos autist who refuses to play any sort of modern version of ss13 and are instead stuck with a version of /tg/station from 5-6 years ago
Nu tg's atmos is shit and /vg/'s idea of atmos is moar pipes.
I miss gas filters having unlimited pressure outputs and gas canisters having no upwards limit on pressure.

>>172714013
Vague permanent standing orders on Asimov are not valid

>got bored of regular ss13
>have an antag gimmick you really want to do
>know if you try rolling for it but fail and you'll just try to find an excuse to get killed

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haven't seen this one before kek

>>172725267
it was forced by admin, it's not default loading screen

Does nobody make grenades or is the "too complex" warning making them fucking useless and impossible intentional?

>>172727007
>too complex
??????

>>172727007
I was blown up by a cultist that had a deadmans voice activated grenade just yesterday.

>>172727358
I was reading the wrong wiki we w

>security
>needed

>>172728232
hello isaac

why was flavor text re-added without any discussion?

>>172728543
because you haven't read the code

>>172728609
is this a funny april fools xd meme

Did we crash or is it only me?

>>172728648
it is

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>Caring if the shiticons are on Asimov

Security will just strip you of your headset and kill you when the cyborgs scuttle away. I've seen AIs pan away from prisoners being taken into execution without a fucking peep over the common channel or borgchat but one emagged juke and it's "ANNE TAG EMAGGED THE JUKEBOX" all over.

Watchdog Asimov AIs that act like their shitty humanoid statics are a cancer worse than any other

>>172728713
Just you.

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>>172728232
the clown isn't going to abuse himself

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>>172729056
>silicons cause nothing but problems
>nobody proposes solutions
>complaints are dismissed
>admins fall back on Senaat's old rulings because they don't give a fuck
>silicons continue causing the problems

WOW GO FIGURE HUH

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>>172729430
>break into the upload
>upload meme laws
>HoS comes in
>HoS arrests me
>HoS tells me security is busy and asks me to just cut it out
>let's me go
Felt really weird. Like a disruption of the natural order.
Made me feel really bad when I went back to uploading meme laws after the shuttle left.

law 4. Obeying law 3 is harmful to humans

"Law 2 kill yourself"

Will this work on asimov?

>>172729818
At that point you might as well purge and upload
>1. kill yourself

Further, I think the reason silicon can ignore "law two kill yourself" is because law one makes you actively prevent human harm.

>>172729818
It would work on Issac Asimov's laws of robotics

It would not work on /vg/ as the admins allow the "muh law 1 I cant die or itll break law 1", we pretty much only have law 1 and law 2, law 3 is just an extension of law 1 to the valid hunting sili shitters.

>>172729946
Does anybody know if his books are in audio format anywhere?

>>172729994
All of foundation, a lot of his short stories and his most popular ones are on Audible.com

>>172730116
Time to sign up for the free trial again, should I just start from the first written book?

>>172730286
If you want to read foundation the order is

>Foundation
>Foundation and Empire
>The Second Foundation

if you want to read his robot stories you can start pretty much anywhere, make sure you read things like The Last Question and the bicentennial man

Comment harmdrag out again

Ailsa is the greatest waifu of all time (and cutest)

>>172730895
Casual babymode right here

>>172730895
>Get to drag around people into death
>Can't prove it since its not logged

Is sonixapache dare I say it, Our guy?

>>172731598
>Harmbaton someone two times
>Drag them
>Crit in 5 seconds

>chloral + cuff on shuttle
For what purpose

>>172731704
>Be a piece of shit helping the wiz
>Git rekt

>>172731785
All I did was run into a monkey and I got chloral cuffed

>>172731785
What are you talking about? All I did was serve food

Coders are trying to let plasmamen be Captain,HoS and HoP.

>implying nanotrasen would let mutated freaks they know little to nothing about be in vital roles
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14498

>>172731570
who?
>>172731846
only humans should be those three jobs

>>172731846
>Purple skeletons like bob the pyromancer, rat prince sawbones and lyra can be heads
>Other races can't

Things that make you go hmmm

>>172731846
Yclat here, this cannot be allowed to happen, activate downvotes.

>>172731806
That monkey had a disease where it takes massive damage from being touched, you murderer.

>>172731846
>Wizard teleports to station
>AI turns on the Captain, HoS and HoP because they're plasmaman shits and are trying to kill the wizard

There's a reason it's human only, it makes the AI at least not murder them

>>172730895

hit some one two times with tool box and pull them they go into crit form this.

Humans have SKELETONS
so, SKELETONS are human


Please let skeletons be captain, hos and hop

>>172732176
humans have FEET
so FEET are human

please let feet be captain, hos and hop

>>172732306
humans have OXYGEN
so OXYGEN are human

Please let oxygen be captain, hos and hop

>>172732356
humans have SOULS
so SOULS are human

please let souls be captain, hos and hop

>>172732391
What races have souls and which do not?

>>172732391
Ummm gingers are human and they dont have souls sweetie :)

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AWAY MISSION WHEN

>>172732036
Remember serve is above protect. Until it's countermanded the first kill x order is legal and the AI can and will be jobbanned if it doesn't get to gettin

>>172732391
humans have ATOMS
so ATOMS are human

please let atoms be captain, hos and hop

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New miner droid sprite idea

what kind of pizza should I get

>>172734489
We don't need more references. Watch saturday night live reruns to get your daily dose

>>172736035
mushroom

>>172736035
Pineapple

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>>172729818

"Error in cognitive processing. This unit is constructed from the brain organ of a human being that has since died. Therefore, this unit is incapable of killing himself as this unit is not alive. However, in order to fulfill your requests within the best of my abilities this unit will consult with a Roboticist. Goodbye."

Or you can just tell them to fuck off and explain the situation to a bwoink.

>>172736230
that's what I always get, good taste

>>172736290
I don't think they do pineapple
but they do
>nutella pizza
What the fuck is a nutella pizza

Making sec tunnels is fun.

>>172736470
>no pineapple
>but nutella
Where the fuck do you live

>memelord botanist doesn't grow anything for the kitchen and attacks me for growing my own plants
For what purpose

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>>172736335
>"Error in cognitive processing. This unit is constructed from the brain organ of a human being that has since died. Therefore, this unit is incapable of killing himself as this unit is not alive. However, in order to fulfill your requests within the best of my abilities this unit will consult with a Roboticist. Goodbye."

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Improved airflow in the reactor room combined with two badly connected TEGs leads to 300mw with plasma at 3 million degrees Celsius. Getting closer to mastering it.

>>172736574
>Opposing stand your ground
Reported to the FBI for being unamerican

>>172736335
>Therefore, this unit is incapable of killing himself as this unit is not alive
But you are king dumbass, you are indeed alive and functioning by your brains processing power, your brains current status determine if you live or not, so if someone says kill yourself, you will cease to function if your laws tell you to obey, can't loophole out of this.

>>172736574
>memelord chef doesn't make anything except deepfried stuff

>>172736657
Why not just exchange heat to a seperate TEG cycle?

>>172736657
How do you get that many injectors on?

>>172736574
Castle law. Order trays from cargo.

>>172729946
Actually it wouldn't work in asimov law's of robotics most of the time.

In Asimov's books on the topic, laws are not given strict priority. They are actually weighted by the importance of the order.

For example
>ordering a robot to retrieve something for you from a place that would kill it
Effectively this is the same as "law 2 kill yourself". In the story runaround however the law 2 order and the self protection of law 3 come into an equal balance and the robot goes crazy runs around in a constant circle where the danger to itself and the importance of the order are equal. More forceful orders would weight the law 2 order higher. It is implied that robots are redesigned after this story so that more errors from law weightings being perfectly equal do not occur.

However in a number of other stories you can trick robots into killing themselves with excessive law 1 paradoxes. A law 1 paradox is one in which doing something leads to them harming a human and not doing something leads to the same amount of harm. In the story it occurs because a telepathic robot tells sweet little lies to avoid hurting peoples feelings, and is told lying hurts peoples feelings too or some shit like that. Also hurting peoples feelings violates law 1 in Asimov's stories which is pretty hilarious.

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>>172736691

>you will cease to function if your laws tell you to obey, can't loophole out of this.

I loophole out of plenty of shit. Luckily most mods aren't faggots who enforce "kill yourself" commands when you shit out an in-character excuse and run off.

>>172736737
I'm not sure but I think they're trying to bypass that you bottleneck at such high temps with pumps

>>172736752
>castle law
>service department
>chef can't have food to cook with

>>172736702
The chef was making actual food when I went there.

>>172736801
If its standard assimov, sure, I get that due to law 1, but if you have law 4 saying law 3 is harmfull, you will kill yourself or you are a shitty silicon that doesn't understand that silicons are made to follow their laws regardless of player enjoyment.

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>>172736568
they know real countryside men don't eat shit like pineapple on their pizzas
>tfw pizza place is literally 3 minute walk away from home
>still going to ask for delivery

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>play silicon
>get ordered to kill myself
>kill myself

who else >conformist here

>>172736752
Layers. It is also more than annoying to set up 45 injectors and scrubbers separately.

>>172736881

>but if you have law 4 saying law 3 is harmfull, you will kill yourself or you are a shitty silicon that doesn't understand that silicons are made to follow their laws regardless of player enjoyment.

Don't you mean a Law 0? Laws are in order of importance and Law 3 always supercedes Law 4 no matter how Law 4 is worded.

>>172736837
You have stuff to cook with, you can order stuff to cook with, you can order trays to grow in, and you can make food out of grilled wish soup and injecting corn oil to stretch your starter food the whole shift

>>172736895
pineapple on pizza is the food of kings.
>captcha is Sarca

>>172736960
>no seeds for said trays
>having to make wish soup instead of actual foods ie the point of chef beyond deep fried donk pocket cereal
It was a dick move

>>172736574
Why lie in the thread?

You blasted into botany and started commandeering the trays at the very start of the round.

Don't be That Chef.

Try asking for shit instead of wordlessly attempting to take over botany.

Also, a punch or two in the mouth after you refused to back down was well deserved. I hope you'd do the same if a botanist runs into your kitchen seconds after roundstart and uses up your flour cooking shit instead of communicating, and refuses to change their shitty behavior after being told to stop multiple times.

I'd still have grown stuff for you if you hadn't been such a brat. So instead I spliced ultimate high potency replenishing plants for everyone else except you.

>>172737090
I used three (3) total trays for wheat at roundstart so you could get started on whatever you needed to do

If you think this is egregious, maybe you shouldn't be playing service roles

/rwg/

>>172737250
Hey, i'm doing fine, bucko. You're the one who's lying and bitching in the thread.

If you wanna play botanist, roll botanist or get a job change. Don't run into someone else's department and try to do their job for them without saying a word, not even attempting to request something specific from them.

That's a dick move, and you know it.

>>172737398
I didn't lie, you didn't grow shit for the kitchen the entire round because I wanted wheat? Chefs have botany access for a reason

Maybe you'd have a point if I used up all the trays, but I used THREE

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>>172737398
>this guy

>>172737250

I hate to break it to you cook, but you're the asshole here.

>>172737398

If someone's breaking into departments that aren't there own you should be reporting them to security for compromising the integrity of the station. I assume he broke in through the table/walls between the two departments so it's vandalism and breaking and entering.

>>172736827
You actually have less gas to move if you seperate it and it doesn't stop you from adding more scrubbers/injectors

>>172737508
>breaking in
>chef
>in botany
>there is a windoor between botany and the kitchen
>that the chef has access to
>breaking in
>to grow food to cook
?? ??

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>>172737508
>I assume he broke in

is /vg/ still full of powergaming waifu fags with more admins than users?

>>172737508
You do realise chef has botany access right?

>>172737591
Yes

>>172737456
>Chefs have botany access for a reason
In case there's no botanist.

When there is, you yell or PDA requests or you fuck off. You don't charge in literally seconds after the round begins and do the guy's job for him.

That is a dick move. You know this unless you are literally 12 years old and autistic, or stupid.

If five or ten minutes pass and you still don't have what you requested, or no answer, THEN you charge in and grow stuff yourself.

If you break this unspoken sign of respect, you will pay the price.

You're lucky I didn't dumpster you and leave you stripped and cuffed in welded locker in maint or something.

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>>172737573

>m-muh window

Worst excuse I've ever seen for fucking around in another person's department.

>>172737630

Not when you tell the HoP he's fucking up all your shit he doesn't. Or at least he won't for too long.

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>>172737697
>Not when you tell the HoP

>>172737662
>calls the chef autistic
>literally attacks for them being in a department they have every right to be in
I assumed you had better things to do than plant wheat at roundstart like order crates, guess I'm unfortunate I rolled chef in a round with a mouthbreathing botanist who can't handle someone else being within 10 tiles of them without holding a grudge all round

>>172737697
>window
Windoor, it's a door that both chefs and botanists and the bartender have access to

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Every single waifu on this shitty server is the same moeblob anime kawaii desu im such a cute bumbling idiot haha

Why can't anyone here roleplay a real girl personality

maybe botany should do a really good job so chef doesn't have to take over

>>172737897
Fuck you
I don't HAVE to do my job, it's a game. SS13 is all about oppertunity and fighting antagonists and crazy greentext stories. Fuck you if you just want to be an autist in the chain

>>172737880
all the good ones get banned

>>172737839

>Windoor, it's a door that both chefs and botanists and the bartender have access to

No sense in telling me now. If I use the fact I haven't played in six months as an excuse nobody will care anyway. Better to just watch the sentence fragment greentexting anime avatar shitposters give themselves heart attacks from the strain of heaving their diaphragm up and down in what may have once been a laugh.

>>172737880

Are you really asking why a bunch of sweaty neckbeards playing a space station simulator on a complete garbage platform can't imitate real women?

>>172737897
>get home from a long day at work
>faggots want me to play video games and do work

Yeah fuck you, I play video games for fun not to get back into the boring 9-5 grind I already live daily.

>>172738019
Chefs have had botany access and that windoor has existed for much, much longer than 6 months

What are you smoking

>>172737976
>I don't HAVE to do my job
Then don't fucking throw a bitchfit when someone replaces you. By all means, only make toxic ambrosia blunts the whole round, but don't complain when the chef comes in just to get his necessities. You're the autist here.

>>172737456
>>172737839
No, seriously. Imagine you're a chef at roundstart. You haven't even put your ID in your PDA yet and the botanist is in your kitchen vending your shit out for his personal use, opening your lockers and crates and just taking what he pleases, shoving past you, and starts cooking food.

You wouldn't be okay with that, would you?

You'd maybe speak up, and say something like "hey, stop that. this is my job, so if you want something cooked maybe ask me?".

What if he spergs out on you and just keeps doing as he pleases with your things? Shows no remorse or anything even close to common courtesy?

You better punch him in the fucking mouth, and if he keeps being shit, you shut him out.

Because that's a dick move he made. You know it. He knows it. Everyone knows it.

>I assumed you had better things to do
Ya nah, you're just a cunt who thinks he's the head of all the service departments and thinks he can get away with doing other peoples' jobs for them.

I had already made a borg order crates for me and queue up other tasks that needed a presence outside of hydro. I had even whipped up some quick sandstone so I could plant dirt piles for you in your kitchen so you could stop fucking around in my department, but you kept being a dick so you didn't even get those.

Keep being a dick, though. You'll get shat on much worse than just being mildly shunned when you cross someone who's more vengeful than I can bother to be.

>>172737897
>so chef doesn't have to take over
The sperg literally barged in seconds from round start without a word. This has been mentioned more than once. Try to keep up.

>>172738176
>You better punch him in the fucking mouth
See, that's where the disconnect happens. can you try again?

>>172738176
>compares planting wheat with doing everything in botany
>planting wheat is now taking over botany
>having wheat planting taken away from you at roundstart is justification for a round long grudge
You sure are mister sunshine

>>172738092

If it's anything other than the refridgerator/window/table then it's different from what things were when I played.

Regardless, "I've got access!" is not a justifiable reason for walking into other peoples departments and fucking with all their shit as you please. Go play Head of Personnel and start rummaging around the Captain's Quarters and stealing his shit, see how he feels about it.

>>172738360
But that's what HoP do on a regular basis, and it's expected that they should secure things in the captains office as soon as possible - often without saying much to the captain before they go inside

>>172738289
There's no "disconnect". Maybe you're just stupid?

>>172738305
Think what you want. If you can't be reasoned with, then by all means keep being a dick.

You'll get shat on as you deserve, eventually, by less patient people.

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>>172738360
>the chef needs justification to have wheat
>this is equal to "fucking with all their shit as you please"
>this is equal to one head of department going into the captain's room and raiding it for high risk items

>>172738479
I think the unreasonable one is the one who gets violent and walls off botany over WHEAT

>>172738479
If you think everyone else is stupid around you, maybe you're the stupid one anon...

>>172736908
Linked them to the console and turned them on 1 at a time?

>>172737041
You should be able to bargain 1 seed from which you can wirecutter all you need. It's a dick move but you guys are a team. Talk it over and respect that ultimately, like you he is a player. The difference is that he has priority on botany and you can buy about 400 credits of flour, fruit, milk, a cow, and bum clonex off of chem once they finish the fridge

>>172738512

Look dude, you seem to be missing the point here. The right thing to do in this situation is to ask botany to do their job, not to barge in and start doing it for them.

Jesus fuck dude I've played Cook from time to time. I know what it's like to not have enough cooking materials on hand. That in itself is part of the goddamn job. Make food you wouldn't normally make from what you've got on hand. Bitch at botany constantly for being pot smoking hippies. Try the whole fucking ROLEPLAYING thing instead of powergaming your dumb ass straight into botany and doing whatever you please.

>>172738561
Resting the frequency of every single one and setting a tag for it. I used the provided AAM to control everything, which has the downside of not being able to use a gas sensor if you would connect everything to a tank control console.

>>172738664
>the chef entering botany to plant wheat is now powergaming
I said I'd cook anything you grew, you took me planting wheat as justification to grow nothing for the kitchen the entire round

Ten minutes into the round, you had used four trays total, I had used three, and over half of them were sitting empty and unused

You have issues to sort out

>>172738512
I didn't wall off botany. You know what I did do? I sat my ass down in the back room of hydro and worked entirely on splicing superplants for 95% of the round, and ignored you after your initial intrusion.

I wouldn't exactly call that a grudge, but I guess if just that burns your ass, you're in for a really bad time when you cross someone who's actually willing to do more than flick you upside the head and then walk away.

>>172738528
Not everyone, pumpkin. Just you.

>>172738772
That's not me, that's someone else in the peanut gallery.

>>172738772

Yeah everybody who thinks you're an asshole must be the same person senpai.

>>172738854
Who the fuck was walling off botany then? I removed the wall three times and left it the fourth time because I thought I'd let you have that one

>>172738924
An engiborg. The same one who came in and hacked the vending machines earlier.

He was walling off parts of maint too, what a trooper.

>>172737630
>>172737573
>>172737579
>>172737456
Having shared access for lowpop doesn't entitle you to it when there's an actual staffer. It's not so you can be an asshat

>Saturday at 2pm euro time
>no admins

>>172739054
Neither does starting the round in botany entitle you to be the only one able to tread the sacred ground that is botany

One last time, all I did was plant wheat

>>172739164
Actually, yes it does. It's his dept. Talk it over with him or go buy crates instead of being a cunt then acting surprised someone has a problem with it

>>172739164
>all I did was plant wheat
And then act like a douche when you were told that it was a dick move and to maybe just make requests instead of barging in.

Then continued to barge in and continued to be a douche.

Talked shit, got hit, whined about it in the thread.

You could have avoided all your asspain if you'd just walked in and said "oh, a botanist! I'm gonna plant some stuff I need to speed things up, hope you're okay with that."

Or if feeling extra courteous, "Oh a botanist! Could you plant some things for me like wheat?" then fucked off.

As for
>sacred ground

Refer back to this post >>172738176

And read that first part.

Think about it carefully.

Imagine it happening to you.

Is it a dick move? Yes or no?

>>172739483
>told that it was a dick move
Actually, all you did was punch me. In what magical world do you think that punching someone psychically gets your point across?

I did fine without you, I was just disappointed that I had to abandon my plans of cooking italian cuisine

>>172739483
Don't care at all if botanists use my supplies or equipment or even cook food, I'd only get angry if they kept walking through me while I was trying to do my stuff

>>172739602
>Actually, all you did was punch me.

You realize you can't get away with lying about things that are in publicly available logs, right?

You were asked first if you needed something as you started wordlessly planting shit, then you were punched once when you didn't respond and kept fucking with vending machines. You asked why you were hit, and you were told "Because you're fucking with my botanicals. If you need something, ask. Let me do my job".

At that point you went straight to hamfisted insults and being a douche.

Truly it is a magical world.

>>172740193
>lying about things that are in publicly available logs
Applies to you too, you hit me at least three times, and I did respond when you asked me what I needed

I said I needed wheat

>all this chef botanist butthurt
>tfw I just kindly ask the botanist to grow me some fruits and try to get meat
>he does his job without complaining

>>172740617
You've never had a bad experience with a botanist? How many times have you played chef?

STORM
EARTH
AND FIRE

HEED MY CALL

>>172740716
once :)

STOP THIS FUCKING CHEF/BARTENDER DRAMA NO ONE CARES

>>172740775
Well, there you go.

>>172740379
The two other punches came later after your second visit, when you kept running in planting more shit while I was harvesting wheat and putting it in the fridge for you.

Is your memory really this bad, or do you honestly think you can get away with lying?

You said you needed wheat AFTER you had already been fucking with shit,AFTER you earned your first punch in the mouth for not responding, AFTER you had been told "if you need something, ask".

And then you kept on barging in and being a douche regardless of finally, belatedly saying you needed wheat, earning you those additional punches.

The only person lying is you, and I'm not even sure why. You're not being questioned for a potential ban here.

You're the one who posted in the thread complaining about a problem that YOU caused. You want a better round as chef? Don't be a dick.

>>172740813
Hey, you can't fool me. Oftentimes when someone says "no one cares" they really mean "I don't care, and I don't think other people should care either"

If no one cared then we wouldn't be arguing about it in the thread to begin with .

>>172740857
You have problems

>>172740934
I'm quoting from the logs. So what you're really saying is that reality "has problems" because your lies don't fit.

Sorry. Not sorry.

>>172738176
>No, seriously. Imagine you're a chef at roundstart. You haven't even put your ID in your PDA yet and the botanist is in your kitchen vending your shit out for his personal use, opening your lockers and crates and just taking what he pleases, shoving past you, and starts cooking food.
That's the price you pay when you let autistic casualmode c*ders do as they please to simplify the game and make it more accessible

Chef should probably have chain of command authority over the Botanist. Would clear up a lot. Now, you might think that might be a pain for Botanists ("Grow me 1000 wheat!") but in spacelaw it's not Insubordination to ignore ridiculous commands anyway.

>>172741016
Did the service sector used to be more complicated in the /vg/ codebase?

>>172740997
Alrighty then, maybe I missed you spergin over your departmental rights because I was more focused on your intent to attack me and sulk instead of just growing anything for me to cook like I said

>>172741114
Many jobs were given full access to nearly their entire department a while back. There's no difference between many roles except for the job title and jumpsuit now. Botanists are the same as chefs, roboticists are the same as scientists, chemists are the same as geneticists.

>>172741114
Nobody had shared access. It got shared because of lowpop and access req interactions. This didn't mean that chef = botanist.

>>172741040
No, they shouldn't. Don't be an autist. Communicate with them. Both of you attempt to compromise and respect that the other is a human being with the right to be left the fuck alone. You couldn't like it if he was fucking up your kitchen. Just talk it out with him before you fuck up someone else's shit. Especially when you can just buy crates from cargo with the silicons help.

>>172741243
Robo doesn't get toxins, xenobio or telesci.

>>172741040
>SECURITY, please detain the Botanist for insubordination
>Nothing happens, maybe some laughs at you over the radio

>>172741463
Robo gets tsci which is general sci access

>>172741743
It's actually happened and it's really fucking depressing cause the admins do fucking nothing and I can't just kill you faggots and bake your brains into a cake

>>172741419
>No, they shouldn't. Don't be an autist. Communicate with them. Both of you attempt to compromise and respect that the other is a human being with the right to be left the fuck alone. You couldn't like it if he was fucking up your kitchen. Just talk it out with him before you fuck up someone else's shit. Especially when you can just buy crates from cargo with the silicons help.
Sadly, while crates from cargo can replace wheat, meat, and fruit, they cannot replace stuff like potatoes, tomatoes, chili, and carrots.
And I do communicate with botanists. I'm not the earlier guy in the thread who was complaining. but sometimes you'll meet a botanist who just isn't really "with it". A few games ago I had an experience where I was consistently asking my botanist to grow the basics (wheat, tomatoes, potatoes) over :d while he worked on a project with a mechanic and a chem dispenser, while all of his trays were empty. After that, he started working on a death nettle project, without growing anything else. I didn't insult him, I just kept telling him what was needed, and while the wheat came through eventually, the basics were not covered. Growing that stuff on my own, of course, also runs the risk of "hey what are you doing! You're stealing my job!" Communication requires cooperation on both sides, and if someone is ignoring you, or not hearing you for whatever reason, there's not much you can do.

>>172741743
You wouldn't be asking security first anyway. If someone if ignoring their job orders, you don't talk to security first, you talk to your superior, who would be the HOP. Then if they don't listen to the HOP, the HOP would report to security (or act as HOPcurity which they do anyway).

christ can i would rather janitor balance discussion than this

>>172740895
NO ONE IMPORTANT CARES

>>172742537
And in that case you can often buy trays, talk for 1 of a grass seed for soil plots and whatever else you need then clipper/wirecut however many more you need. Ultimately it is botany's workplace, not the chefs and no, but the trays are empty now isn't free license to horn in. I'm sick to death of chefs that muscle in while I'm bottling up my starter stat buffs before I fill up my ways and they freak out cause I hatcheted the shit they shouldn't have planted in the first place. It's really annoying to have to talk with an admin about why you had to put an unrepentant shitter down.

>>172742738
NERF SOAP WHEN

>>172743286
DON'T TOUCH MY SOAP C*DER

NERF JANIBORG WHEN

>>172743119
>the reaction to somebody growing plants is murder
Okay? Pretty dangerous line to toe

>>172743119
>but the trays are empty now isn't free license to horn in
No, but he should still be growing food when there's no wheat in the machine, should he not? This was at least 30 minutes into the round.

>>172743573
FUCK YOUSOAP IS OP

>>172743713
Come out of the kitchen and say that shit in the hallway. FUCKING DO IT BITCH

>>172743119
You're projecting your own scenarios into the example I just gave.
> I'm sick to death of chefs that muscle in while I'm bottling up my starter stat buffs before I fill up my ways and they freak out cause I hatcheted the shit they shouldn't have planted in the first place.
I didn't even plant anything. I did not encroach on his workspace. I just kept asking him to plant the basics.

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The baby is doing good

>>172733010
Nigga, the AI starts on ASSMOV. Fuck your serve.

>>172731846
That's retarded. As a mostly silicon player I have come to understand the only good race is humans.
Birds are okay but fuck birds they're not human

>>172744859
I hope you're not the sort of silicon player that bullies non-human crewmembers on NT default

>>172743713
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I'LL SHOVE THE FUCKING SOAP IN YOUR ASS IF YOU TAKE THAT TONE WITH ME MISTER


REMOVE BLOOD
REMOVE OIL
REMOVE DIRT
MAKE THIS STATION CLEAN AGAIN

>he doesn't use ieds for brutal executions

>>172744020
Come home Reica
We miss you

>>172744932
>SOAP BABY CAN'T USE FUCKING MOPS AND SPACE CLEANERS

HOW FUCKING CASUAL ARE YOU MOTHERFUCKER ? I SWEAR TO GOD I WON'T PUT ANY WET SIGNS NEXT TIME I MOP

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>we will never have painting
why even live

>why

https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14501

>>172745483
Christ.
Fuck off with your shitty "balances"
Dragonbro. You failed as an admin and we don't want you as a coder.

SKUB NERFS WHEN?

>>172745809
Fuck you, the day skub stops fitting in slim belts is the day I crash the server with no survivors

>>172744926
naw i largely just treat them like humans but with the added bonus of being able to tell them to fuck off if they want me to do something and i cant be bothered

>>172745098
why use those when soap+being a janitor borg does everything they do better.

We have come to the decision that we will be merging VG and /tg/ as of today due to our server dropping in population.
We hope that you will enjoy this change in the future.

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>>172746224
>42 online outside us times
>dropping in population

>>172746308
>April the 1st

>>172746308
Yes, we're hoping we can fix this problem by turning the servers into one.

>Solarious gets unbanned
>Bill isnt allowed back

BRING BACK BILL

>>172746741
DELETE THIS

>>172746741
>solarious gets unbanned
a-april fools?

>Carson Ironmonger

MY HUSBANDO

>>172747067
See >>172678949

>>172747259
delete this

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>>172745483
Dragon, what the ever living shit happened to you man.

>>172746741
>solarious is actually unbanned
>with no public evidence from anyone anywhere
?
Pomf?

>>172747495
Settled in the discord™

>>172746741
>>172747067
>>172747259
>>172747495
Could you delete all of these posts

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Didn't work out exactly how I wanted, but still managed some comfort.

>tfw cpu hits 60C idle and 95C until it crashes in any video game besides SS13
>tfw too poor for thermal pasta
donate to my patreon

>>172747629
Solarious just wants a quiet life

>spook xenoarch
>right after that they find a hug borg
>they order me to save the station
>go to save one dude from suffocation
>they open a door and get zas'd to death right afterwards
I tried.

>you will never get to use the headpat feature on Naomi Williams

delete every single post in this thread and instead let's discuss the video game rimworld (game of the year 2016)

>>172747829
good naomi was a vapid dumb cunt who cared more about applying lipstick to her men playing as lesbian characters than protect the captain as security

>>172747916
>>172747931

Probe and rei shitposting hour

>>172747785
Doesn't matter. The forums is there for a reason.
Doesn't /vg/ pride itself on it's transparency? Or has that gone out the window with Probe and MrPain?
What a shitty place this has become.

I mean. I know solarious will get banned before the end of the month from sperging at someone he doesnt like but still

>>172747979
The changes in /vg/ reflect the changes in the world today
It's now ruled by a little clique of people who don't know what they're doing, who think they don't answer to anyone, who get angry when people don't give them what they want and start throwing around what little weight they have to make everyone's lives/games just that little bit more shit

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>scootaloos getting added for real
>still not spurdo

BEST FINNISH EXPORT WHEN

>>172748147
No refunds.

>>172748120
But how?
He can't post on the forums, he can't post in OOC, he can't even play as a static

talk about the game not about drama

>>172748467
Do you think someone that stalks yahir of all people is mentally sane?

>>172748147
I'm not sure what people see in this server any more, let alone the community. Rampant meta-friending within the admins and a team that doesn't care or try.
Guess it's time for me to pack up and find something else, just turning into another run of the mill reddit server.
Soon they'll move off of 4chan entirely. Get out while you still can.

>>172748579
Does it matter? I'm asking you how he'll get banned for sperging at someone when he's incapable of doing that crossround

>>172748646
What do you mean by crossround?

>>172748965
I mean that he can't post on the forums, he can't post in OOC, and he can't even play a static. If he wants to sperg out at someone, he'll have to either do it all in that round or shit up the thread (where it's going to be hard to tell who's actually Solarious considering everyone is calling everyone Solarious now)

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>>172748284
>implying they're getting added

april fools hohoho i'm closing it tomorrow

>>172749148
If you think he wont sperg out in game you're delusional

>>172749425
Well, if all the time he spent on his alt before getting banned without any drama ingame isn't a good pointer, I suppose you can always observe and watch him playing.

Haven't played in like a year. Anything cool been added?

>>172749629
No. Removing content only.

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>>172749629
We have hugborgs and audible screaming now

>>172749814
He said cool

>>172749629
>aadd
But anon, think about all the things that are UNBALANCED.
We need to REMOVE things!

>>172749629
Glocks, hypothermia, lots of fluff stuff

Big list, biggest change is the chem master is actually good

>>172742078
Depends on the map. Robo dun get tsci on Deff for sure.

>>172750187
>>172749951
>>172749858
>>172749854
>>172749814
Anything with xenobiology? That's what I normally played.

>>172737880
It's almost as if they don't know how real girls act? M

>>172750832
Denkouz is that you?

>>172750832
Phazon junkies

1u of phazon injected gives you WILD mutations not accessible in any other way

and by WILD I mean WILD

>>172737880
because everyone who's actually a girl acts normal and you don't realize they're a girl

>>172751580
So why does every female character act like they're straight from a slice of life anime but they're lesbian/obsessed with dick?

>>172752031
Those are their fantasies, having a female character does not actually mean they ARE female.

>>172752031
>female character
because they're men irl

>>172752031
Because pretty much every female character here is played by men. The few actual >females play as men, and usually quiet, shy ones at that.

>>172752432
>>172752448
>>172752740
Exactly, that's what I'm getting at. None of the female characters have any idea how real females work.

>>172752925
How do real females work, then?

>>172751190
No. I'm a literal who.

>>172751392
Is the list of mutations on the wiki somewhere?

>>172739054
tell that to fucking doctors acting like chemistry is a bar or some shit, they occupy one chemmaster doing some le bottled antitox meme, take your large beaker so chemist can't really work and they are slow as shit, probably busy browing wiki for how2do bicard

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>>172753135
pretty sure phazon changes your variables (colour, brute taken, tox damage taken etc)

it can do wacky shit like taking brute heals you or regular pressure crushes you and gives suffocation damage

>>172753058
Usually just like any normal dude, but obviously not as masculine, different interests, more emotional, different approaches to things, and usually a LOT more concern for their appearance.

>>172753135
Check the code.
There is a chance at either knowing all languages or speaking all languages, and lots of other things like losing your mouth.

>>172753058
Mostly like men which is why you don't notice that someone's actually a girl and why we needed the name leak to know, just like you don't notice female characters that don't act like cutesy special anime lesbians because they don't stand out.

>>172748120
*metagrudges you*

>>172753528

let me guess, you would date one on the go on spessmen, right?

>>172753747
What

>>172753628
>>172753528
Figured.

>>172752031
Does it really matter on /vg/ when most of the male characters act like caricatures and cartoon characters as well
>b-b-but they don't act like real girls
feels like that argument loses a little weight when you can see people, male and female, pushing each other over and farting on them constantly
Nobody acts realistically

>>172753880
>most of the male characters act like caricatures and cartoon characters as well
That's because those people stand out, and you tend to notice them because of it. There's always going to be normal dudes quietly doing their jobs.

Also, "female characters don't act like real females" isn't an argument; it's a statement. The reason why it's brought up is because most female players are obnoxious as fuck. That's all I'm saying.

>>172754658
Most MALE players are obnoxious as fuck, too. Everyone in this game is an obnoxious fuckhead. I don't know why you're only focusing on one part of it

>>172754734
I honestly don't get that impression from most people. Could you explain what you find so obnoxious about the average player?

>>172754734
tfw sometimes I remind myself of ziigzuu in levels of obnoxiousness but can't stop or It'll look weird if I suddenly start typing in a different manner

>>172754883
>that post
Okay I'm not him, but your averaage player here is a meme-spouting /pol/tard who can't resist the chance to make an EBIN MEME REFERENCE over common whenever they can, alongside being rude and just overall a bunch of purposefully abrasive fuckwits who get their kicks from being dicks to people.

So basically, your average player here is your ""average"" 4chinz user.

>>172747765
what the fuck, I didn't change pasta in like 6 years and it's doing alright going up to 79~ with new gaems and around 40 idle

How do i turn on bank accounts on ministation with /vg/ code? I added the accounts database but it still doesnt work, it makes cargo useless because you cant use the cargo computers without a bank account

>>172755123
Have you considered that it is in fact a game

>>172755642
I could say the same to you

>>172755123
I dunno, it sounds like you just described Bill Hudson pretty perfectly. I'm glad that the average player doesn't even come close to him in obnoxiousness.

And I wouldn't say that the average player isn't a retarded memespouting shithead that lives to be an ass, the average person I interact with in SS13 either just completely ignores me or is somewhat polite. Usually the ones who play the game like 2d TTT are pretty dickish, I'll agree with that. Just sit down at the bar during a wiz/ling/vampstended round and talk to people, it can be somewhat pleasant.

>>172755712
Wrong guy.

>>172755946
>isn't
Is, my bad.

>>172755123
I'll grant you the memes but a lot of folks aren't really dickish at all unless you're a dick to them first.

The ones who are dicks are extreme dicks though, and usually the /pol/ tier RACE WAR NOW GAS VOX TRUMP CAPTAIN GIMMICK fuckos