/wtg/ - War Thunder General

first for how to play bearcat stock

first for vegeta should kill himself

>>172681021
Can we all agree that the Hind is trash?

nth for NATOboo tiers

>>172681350
No it's amazing

the fact that it has more ATGMs than the Apache speaks wonders

>>172681350
The Hind and the Apache in game are trash.

Keep the tanks, drop the helos

>>172681578
It has more ATGMs than the Apache but the Apache should have better missiles.

However War Thunder is shit and has modelled the 2 missiles identical so the Apache is at a disadvantage for no reason

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whats the best helocopter in War Thunder and why is it this thing

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These modern tanks are unironically the best thing added to the game in over 2 years

>>172681117
Arcade

>>172681902
>Funtionally identical to the Hind but with less ATGMs

wrong

Haven't played in 3 years.

Is the F8F still good?

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>Hind with Vikhrs

REEEEEEEE

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To all the people who wanted to add helis to the game, you were right they are a lot of fun. They make great skeet target especially against guns with such high velocity that you barely need to lead your shot

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>>172682613
>functionally

not aesthetically, this bird is slender and agile

>>172682329

It's because you don't have to grind for the tanks, shells, parts, skill on the crew, you have unlimited respawns, and don't have to worry about SL and/or GE. You don't have wallet warriors, having to worry about uptiers since everybody is on the same level.

You can just hop on a match and play to your hearts content. It is everything War Thunder is not. If they do introduce them next year you can bet your ass they'll never be as fun as they were these days. I don't want to imagine what the grind for Tanks will be if they add 6 more tiers.

Anyways, I'll go back to playing this event and enjoy it while it last. Maybe squad up with some buddies and enjoy together.

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>>172682917
Such a beautiful machine.

>>172682917
Both helos are utter shit though.

Not only this but the Hind gets more missiles

>>172682990
THIS

Fucking this.

The gameplay is the least War Thunder like because you are not playing to grind, and basically just playing to have fun with tanks and helis and thats fun in itself, no stress if you lose or do poorly just like in any other WWII shooter, because you don't lose anything, you may have lost time but that time is not lost in addition to RP you could have been gaining if you performed better, so theres no stress, just fun.

This event is fun.

Gonna be sad to see it go, not likely gonna return to WT either after it, with 500,000+ RP before I can unlock my first jet, I'm fucking done.

>>172683305
I play for fun in my Tiger 2 H and Chieftain.

Everything else is pain. But this gamemode is so much fun.

>>172682329
this
really hoping this sprouts into a new postwar game, it's fucking free money right in front of gaijin's eyes
AW just committed suicide and people are looking for a good post war game
if I wasn't banned on the forums, I would totally pitch this shit to gaijin

>>172683305
>playing bore blunder
kys!

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>Has the Apache with Hellfire A so the missiles are laser guided
>Still has to have a fantasy version of the Hind which uses Vikhrs even though no Mil helicopters have ever used Vikhrs

really makes me think lads

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>>172683465

>>172683569
My mistake. It has Ataka missiles,

However it's still a more modern version than the Apache :^)

>>172683461
yeah, literally same here

>>172683461
That sounds like a pretty good idea. Gaijin pls stop making 1945 heavy tanks fight 1960s main battle tanks

>>172683461
What happened to AW?

>>172685276
People decided that they didn't want to grind out another game when they could go back to their other game that they grinded out in,

Am I the only one who find this event great, but proves that this new meta doesn't work?
The tanks are too "perfect": I know modern tanks handle well and they are probably like this irl but they drive too arcadey, with the stab you can just run wild and it turns into a fuckfest. The guns and optics also show how the maps would need to be much bigger since now if you get to a vantage point you can spawncamp from across the map easily. And the helis are just a gimmick, if they add them either they keep their atgms and they'll stay far back lobbing them on the whole enemy team or they get nuked by AAs or tanks since they are easy slow targets.
The only good addition is the smoke screen that should be added to all possible tanks.

>>172685276
Dev team switched. New dev team want to make to to a 100% WoT clone. Community said nah fuck you and left

>>172685478
Planes can easily wreck helis, we Battlefield 3/4 now

>>172685512
Wasn't AW essentially a WoT clone in the first place? I've never played it but it just seemed to me that way.

>>172685478
Just need heatseeking missiles now to even the playing field.

>>172686231
double the size of every map. air-to-air missiles. Make flying past mach 1 work. best game 10/10

>>172685478
Helicopters should be great ATGM ambushers, but knowing Gaijin is unable to design a map to save themselves suitable for it.

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how do they keep getting away with it

So we got:
>2 fully modeled tanks with interiors
>2 Helicopters with a helicopter control system
>a new map with new assets

Tier IX is real.

>>172686480
Air to air missiles would never work past like 1970s models, with realistic performance anyway

The War Thunder community is too dumb

>>172687229
>a helicopter control system
The helos were ported over from Apache: Air Assault

>>172687345
Air to Air missiles wouldn't be very effective in the first place since gaijin would keep nerfing them because the average jet pilot cant figure out that turning throws the missile off course. Hunters would be extinct though.

>>172687557
That's not the issue, they'd try to outturn it right away, bleeding their energy away while the missile is still acelerating.

So then the forums would be full of "WAAAAH WHY CAN MISSILES HIT ME WHEN I TURN"

Though to be fair the missiles in the current time frame of Tier V are useless against anything smaller than a B-29

>>172681021
>cap a point
>maybe kill a few tanks
>die and respawn in a helicopter
>drop missiles on top of shit and use the SP from those kills to get more helicopters

Actually a really fun event desu.

>Bombershitter complains about ww2 bombers fighting jets
>doesn't know that 262s saw combat during he war

Bomberniggers are subhuman

>zipping around in a leo 2 blasting initial D while sending T-90s skyward
never had this much fun in ANY game EVER
armored warfare just seems like shit compared to this

>>172689441
>B-29 screeches in All after dying
>I had to pump over 100 30mms into him because MK108s are the shittiest 30mm in the game while in real life 4-5 hits downed anything

I'm updating this game atm just for this event.

I haven't played in over a year.

>tfw no abrams tankfu

>>172689935
it's fucking worth it, no goddamn joke
just play the leo, T-90's a goddamn tinderbox

>>172690732

>Posted as I slam a ATGM through your turret

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>>172690732
>T-90
>bad

>>172690923
The turret is covered in ERA and the ATGMs fucking suck lmao

Just use sabot nigga

>>172691058
>leopard2
>ERA

You mean applique armour

>>172691058
>Leopard
>ERA
You mean bits of angled armor that get blown off with one hit.

How to properly employ choppers?

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>>172690923
>posted as it misses because I'm going warp 7
>>172691049
all the T-90s I've cooked off would like to have a word with you
there's a lot

>>172691872
>Circumstantial evidence means I'm right
No.

>>172691049
>T-90 rounds corner facing you
>Shoot sabot at his lower front plate
>ammo carousel goes off like firecrackers

>>172692000
then I guess I'm just good
also checked

>>172692039
>Leopard peeks out around corner
>ATGM to his face blows him up
I can reference things that happened in a battle too.

>>172692302
But that never happens because the ATGM is fucking shit

>>172692391
Except it did, because it isn't.

>>172690923
Why use the ATGM? The sabot round is generally much better than the ATGM due to velocity and sheer travel time required to get to target.

>>172692447
+50 GE

>>172692650
>Leo cunt hiding behind rocks with a small part of his turret visible
>shoot ATGM over the rocks and into the top of his turret
ATGM's have there uses.

whats up with these april fools achievements?
what do you get from them?

>>172692873
wow, you sound really mad dude
Try learning how 2 missile

>>172693018
I can use the missile dude, but the APDS is far more reliable for me, just because you're a shitter who needs literal guided shells doesn't mean I am too senpai

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>>172692891
you could also use HE but whatever floats your boat

>>172693138
Of my 30+ kills in the T-90, 12 have been with ATGMs. Just because you're a shitter that cant kill anything with literal guided projectiles doesn't mean I am too, senpai.

>>172693018
>>172693138
>APDS-FS
>ATGM

but the HEAT-FS is best

>>172693427
KYS

>>172693427
atgms are literally heat, but better

>>172693557
ATGM fag just kill yourself before I ammo rack you

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>no A-10
>no Su-25
>no F-22
>no Su-35
>no M1 Abrams
>no Chally 2
>no T-14 Armata for that extra Russian Bias

Dropped the ball fampai

Friendly reminder that if you cant kill anything with guided missiles you're just a shitter and should kys.

>>172693702
someone I was talking to said that it's possible for them to switch from the T-90A and Leo 2A5 to the M1 and Chally 2 halfway through
wishful thinking, but you never know

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>>172694171

>>172694171
>>172694869
I for one welcome our new metal overlord!

I missed the Mechs, the giant snail, and the pirate ships.

I was there for the ponies and I'm glad I'm here for this one. Surprised it's running for more than one day.

So helicopters have a gross advantage over SPAA with their atgms

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>>172682990
Remember when they said they'll "lower the RP cost" on American tanks after filling out the tree? They'll probably pull the same shit with this, and tier 9 tanks will cost about 100 million RP.

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>in stock 5.7
>first thing I see is a T29 when I spawn

>>172695910
>Flying SBD-3
>See P-51D
Yes.

>>172682990
is...is war thunder actually a bad game?

>>172695701
>Gaijin graciously announce they will lower tank RP costs
>they nerf RP gain right along with it so nothing really changes grind time wise you just think it does

I wouldnt be surprised even, hell I would be surprised if they didnt do that.

>tank's turret ring is barely visible
>no fucking round could fit through the gap
>every death is through that fucking turret ring
fuck off piece of shit game

>>172696118

It is a good game but the Gaijew mechanics that they use to make their money make it hell. If they upped the gains in RP and SL, lowered the RP Requirements for Tanks across the board, and stopped this business model of adding more purchasable content to get more money. Then it would be a great game and it would attract more people to it.

>>172697670
>Every IS tank

>>172697692
Yep, Gaijins own greed is slowly killing the game

>>172697692
>do good shit to make people want to give you money
why do companies not fucking do that
why do they just try to manually extract it from you, all the while making you hate them, and eventually leaving them behind?

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>>172698367
because that would make too much cents!

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>>172699439
CARLOS

So uh....

whatever happened to Tank Assault?

>>172698367

Well, you see. It works kind of like this. You have a player base of lets say 100,000. 10,000 of those people will be obsessive autistic players that will drop at least 1,000 USD on their way to Tier 5 on all Nations as soon as possible. That's 10,000,000 USD right there.

Gaijin doesn't care about the 90%, they only care about the 10% that will make them the 10 million. The 90% might not even break 3 million in terms of them buying content for this "free to play" game. They know that 90% will move on to other games while their 10% cash cow will keep spending money because in their eyes they're supporting the game or have spent way too much to just quit. So they'll keep adding content that's purchasable, they'll keep making the grind take longer and keep adding more vehicles while not fixing the mechanics that need fixing. Meanwhile that 90% will keep dwindling down till only the 10% remain and that won't be enough to sustain a player base. Then the game will die or Gaijin will make the next "best" thing.

>>172700761
of course they care about the 10%, but I don't see why they don't cater to both
being good businessmen making a quality product would almost definitely get them more from both the 90% and 10%

>an April Fool's joke is better than the actual game
Cannot make this shit up

>>172701326
t-thats the joke

>>172701318

Because its too much effort and they must be making enough bank that they don't give a shit. The 90% care about better gameplay mechanics, better maps and matchmaking. Better balancing and updating the models of Tanks and Planes. There are many number of things they could do to keep the player base interested in the game but they won't. They either realized that the cost of appealing to the whole player base isn't worth it or they are too stupid to realized they could make more money appealing to all of it.

This April fools joke is the most fun I've had on a video game in 3+ years.
Full release when?

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>>172702382
>most fun I've had on a video game in 3+ years.

Unironically this

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>tfw this update
>tfw I sexually identify as an attack helicopter

>>172702382
It really is the funnest thing they've added since tanks.

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>pictured is the longbow
>it's not in the game

>>172701820
>they are too stupid to realized they could make more money appealing to all of it
that
fixing most their shit and adding wanted content is VERY profitable for them
they're slavs, don't expect them to be good at economics

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>mfw no bugs in this event
it's almost
TOO perfect
it doesn't even feel like it's made by gaijin
it's too good

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>>172703918
>yfw Gaijin is slowly handing control over to a smaller team that actually want to make the game good while they move on to the next big scam

>>172703918
>Shoot T-90 in the side
>bounce
>???
>Shoot leopard in the side
>bounce
>???
Some bugs may apply

>>172701820
>>172702854

>people who don't understand the pareto principle
>people who are the 80

>>172704358
try shooting them at more than a 10 degree angle

Post dogfighting music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTXMIlleCAA

>>172704212
>gaijin giving up on something that isn't even really failing
sounds very gaijin
>>172704358
haven't been having that issue, I think it's just one of the game's bugs itself
I'm talking about bugs unique to the event

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Holy shit no one told me KV-1s and Tigers don't know where to shoot a Jumbo

>>172704789
I did have my helicopter get stick nose up. It didn't affect the helo but or my ability to kill shit but it was a bit annoying to see a helo flying nose up. Only time this happened to me.

>>172704935
>12k rp at tier 3
>I get 2k at tier 4/5
What the fuck gaijin?

>>172705218
the guy has a premium tank and a premium account

The event is fun, but which Jew looked at the T-90A and 2A5 and thought

> Let's make another fucking urban map!

>>172702549
Helos are too much fun, fucking death form above.

>>172705594
is there any trick for proper missile aiming?

>>172705648
press v for sniper mode, other than that they're laser guided, keep your target locked on your sights.

>>172705648
also, press shift+s if you don't want to crash too fast when ground attacking.

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Do the shtora dazzlers do anything?

>>172705973
no

>>172705973
Not yet, unless they actually plan on removing these beautiful tanks (Because they hate money thats why).

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>tier IX
>current highest tier is V

What gives?

>>172705218
>>172705401
And 75% booster

But yeah, fucking turbonerd Tigers and KVs can't figure out the top of the turret is like, 30mm of armor effective

>>172706575
it's a mystery

I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the [Domination] Middle East dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting ground forces. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “GM-64” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

Triggers:
>Running out of standoff range missiles
>899 spawn points
>3 points capped

Turn ons:
Helicopter dog fighting

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>>172706402
Fuk

Does the ERA at least explode and fly off?
Does any of the other active protection shit work, even if just manually?
I'm already pretty sure there's no fire control system.

Does anything that differentiates a T-90 from a T-72 actually work?

I just want a game to let me play as a T-90 that can do T-90 stuff

>>172706903
You can shoot ATGMs.

>>172706903
Not a tank expert, but at least the smoke launchers work, with g.

Also guided missiles.

>>172704769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vItH-gCV_Q&index=3&list=PL19859F68C43B359A

>3 crew
>slow as fuck autoloader
>ammo EVERYWHERE
>cant take ammo out of the hull like in the leopard 2 to hide it behind the stronk turret armor
>shit gun depression
>slower

Where were you when the T90 was confirmed shit?

>>172707948
in a leopard 2 instakilling them with every shot

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>>172708257
feels good man

>>172707948
Thats like, your opinion man.

>2A5 reverses at ~35kph
>T90 Reverse at 4kph


uhhhh gaijin?

>>172707948
>Leopard 2
>Stronk turret armor

Isn't the Leopard 2 supposed to be extremely weakly armored compared to other MBTs in real life?

Doesn't it trade the ability to tank older MBT shells and most anti-tank missiles for speed, standing no chance against modern shells?

I swear I heard a story about some guy in a Leopard 2 getting killed/injured because there's even a small opening in the armor behind a camera that you can shoot a .50 call bullet through if you manage the difficult task of hitting it.

>>172708997
You're thinking of the Leo 1, the 2 has full composite armor comparable to pretty much every modern MBT.

>>172708997
Leo 2's come a long way from the leo 1, but let's just say there's a reason why they added a german shitbox and not a challenger II or M1A2 with TUSK.

>>172708997
Nah, not at all.

So in a year or two, Gaijin will abandon War Thunder to make NATO WARS?

>>172709718
Not likely. They're probably going to keep pushing the army timeline and ignoring the air timeline, though.

>>172708597
nice hull rack fucking losers krauts

>>172708997
According to a description page hosted by the Federation of American Scientists, the armour of the Leopard 2A4 is believed to provide protection equivalent to 700 mm armour steel (RHA) against kinetic energy penetrators and 1000 mm RHA against shaped charge warheads.[104]

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>>172709828
This probably give me the fucking A-4 you slavic fucks

>>172709828
They don't want to push the Air timeline because they can't be fucking bothered to make the maps bigger, or make planes not spaz out past mach 1, or make air-to-air missiles that wont be trash

>>172710960
WAS

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>>172710016
Nice everything fucking loser slavs

>>172711910
No but you should really take only 16 rounds of ammo so you can never be frontally one shot.

>>172705973
God brown eyes really are shit

>>172710960
>STILL no jet attackers
>STILL no jet strategic bombers

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>>172711910
Slavs arent any better your kraut eater

The Tortoise is a steaming piece of shit.

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>blow-out panels for the ammo rack in the LEO2A5 turret won't save your tank

>>172713270
I'm ok with this. It would be impossible to ever kill in one shot otherwise.

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Wow!

>>172711158
Who cares? Add planes with early shitty afterburners that don't even hit 1000 km/h in level flight with wire guided missiles.

>>172712326
>what is the F-84B-26
>what is the Arado

>>172714357
I call hacks.

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>mfw barrel rolling in the Hind

>mfw apache fires a hand guided missile at me and I drop below it at the last minute
>return fire and explode him

>>172716235
Thunderjet is a fighter. You can tell because it has an F rather than an A.

The arado is a recon bomber. The closest we have to a jet attacker is the martin canberra, but it's still a bomber.

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>>172716328
As someone who's put a few hours into helicopters in DCS, the rolls in WT choppers greatly confuse me.

>>172716969
War Thunder isn't anywhere near a simulator.

>>172716969
Hind rolls look much better as the inertia behind the craft kinda pacifies the instructor

>>172716969
I think it's the the mouse aim doing weird as fuck things to it.

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Had fun. Next match we have together lets be on the same team ya? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivP1qYG_tLw&list=RDVqG_7JRHGAA&index=8

So whats next year aprils day, infantry ?

>>172720445
No, that's that other game they're making.

>>172720541
They made an apache game and this time we got apaches. We got a bote when they were making botes. It's not the least probable thing.

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>>172682329
>Not ERA yet

Why didn't they give us the T-14 armata?

The T-90 is made to tank missiles, it's only meant to fight goat-fuckers with ATGMs, this is unfair.

At least give us that weird T-80 variant with the autocannons so we can melt the Leopard 2s side armor when our main gun fails.

Helicopter controls are fucking shit, camera for them is fucking shit.

Gib us cockpits or gib us death.

And please let us assign the machine gun/autocannon to an AI gunner like we get with so many planes.

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Helomichopters cant land apparently.

>>172722385
but that would imply that we'd have to switch the gunner for either hellfire missles that instagib, or the 30mm cannon, leaving us with sevenish outcomes.
1.Pilot: Hellfire and Pods Gunner: 30mm
2.Pilot: Hellfire and 30mm Gunner: Pods
3.Pilot: Hellfire Gunner: Pods and 30mm
4.Pilot: Pods and 30mm Gunner: Hellfire
5.Pilot: Pods Gunner: Hellfire and 30mm
7.Pilot: 30mm Gunner: Hellfire and 30mm

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WHERE'S MY XP―72???

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Just unlocked the CL13

What am I in for?

>>172723963
Saber with german markings

>>172723372
Let the pilot(player) use the rockets and missiles, let the gunner use the autocannon, let the player use the autocannon manually by pressing or holding a key.

I'd like to be able to control the helicopter with the mouse reasonably well, instead I have to use keys because the mouse is mostly dedicated to the autocannon.

Also, is it just lag or do helicopters just refuse to turn or turn 90 degrees and immediately snap back to where they were pointing a lot of the time?

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>>172723957
Hi animefriend! I hope you get your XP-72 you seem like a nice guy and i want you to be happy

>>172724401
If you use Q or E to turn it around and dont follow around with mouse it will do that, i follow the lead of the heli with my mouse as i hold Q or E, but sometimes it snaps back a slight bit, only because i wasnt properly lined up.

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>>172724438
THANK YOU ANON, HOPEFULLY GAIJIN WILL ADD IT EVENTUALLY.

>>172723278
I successfully landed a hind once, wheels slightly bounced off the ground nicely, it wasn't near the spawn, maybe sitting down at spawn puts them in the ground?

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>>172694869

>>172724549
If anything its acting like a tank barrel, not really interacting with anything unless it shoots or explodes.

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The new map is actually bretty gud.

Who else hopes they just separate the pre-war/WWII tree from the Cold War/modern tree and let us start newer stuff without grinding?

Adding this many more vehicles is going to be absurd with the current progress rate, and I don't imagine Gaijin reducing the grind and making boosters/premium even more worthless.

>>172724704
>literally_hitler.jpg

what the everloving fuck the map seriously looks like hitler

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>you ok?

>>172724829
The leopard 2 is a bumpy ride, I nearly flipped mine almost every time I used it.

Pretty fun.

>>172724704
Seriously I hope this map is added to tank rotation

>>172724515
Are you the same caps lock anon that posts in /ck/?

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>not (ab)using atgms on t90 to murder helicopters that just spawned and hitting the leo's turret or breach

>>172724759
Holy fuck it totally does.

>>172724730
I actually just got a great idea from this.

Instead of a new mode or trying to put the new stuff in the old trees, why not simply add two new "nations," NATO and Warsaw Pact? That would solve the grind issue (as long as they "reset" RP costs), and it would also take care of a lot of the other problems with Cold War-era WT, like 1960s tanks fighting WWII ones, East and West Germany stuck on the same team, the lack of a place for French, Swedish, etc. vehicles, and so on.

>>172726332
They would also have to make sure that the regular trees and the new trees can't intermingle in normal battles.

>>172726332
That'd be reasonable and fun.

Gaijin will never do it.

>>172726408
Ah yeah I forgot to mention that, but it's easy, just make maps where one side is always NATO and the other is always Warsaw Pact.

Mixed battles could be an issue, but one easy way to get around that would be to give everything a new BR range, 11.0-19.0 or something.

I was thinking they could pick an "end date" for WWII vehicles (I was thinking maybe 1947 so vehicles that just missed the action could get in) and move everything past them into the new trees, which would also be nice because it would make late-war vehicles relevant again and allow Gaijin to open up the BR spread for finer balancing.

>>172726767
They'd need to give all those poor suckers who grinded to the Leo 1 and etc some sort of headstart since the tanks they spent months grinding have been shoved to mid-BR cold war tanks at best.

>>172726767
I constantly suggest that they start a new tree or a new tier or whatever for post 1953 vehicles to try and keep most tanks designed around their armor (Maus, IS-3) from being much more than free rp for Heat-FS slinging M18s.

>>172726767
The idea of the Maus actually fighting WWII vehicles instead of main battle tanks gets my dick rock hard...

>>172727012
The thought of WWII vehicles fighting other WWII vehicles makes my dick hard. None of that RU-251 and PT-76 bullshit.

>>172726941
I was trying to figure that out as well. Maybe they could just refund players the RP difference between what they paid in the old tree and what they cost in the new tree? That would make up for it I think, but I doubt Gaijin would be that "nice."

>>172727012
Yeah, it would be great. I'd love it in planes too, actually being able to, for example, fly a 262 and fight P-80s and late props instead of going up against Korean War jets would be amazing as well.

The only issue I can see is that some things, like the Maus, might end up being kind of OP, but one way of dealing with that could be to make them work like planes, where you can't spawn in one off the bat and have to earn it with your first tank.

https://youtu.be/S0RO5_OiZdQ?t=687

the best

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Could anyone get the sight distance control thing to work?

I binded it like you would for prop pitch or radiator control on the keyboard but it doesn't do anything.

>>172729628
wtf my dick is already diamonds 10 minutes in.

>>172691628

Fire ATGMs from the other side of the map.

>>172713270
Hard to model tovarich ((((

>>172729737

It has worked since beta.

Stop being inept.

>>172714357
wtf who was filming this.

The jews?????

>>172713582
There's still ammo in the haul you monkey.

>>172730339
+10 rubles!

Carouselloader is best))

How do I git gud at fighting spitfire
they are just too good to deal with

Why is the T90 so much better than the leopard, and who decided to store ammo in the back of the turret or the front of the tank anyway?

>>172730125
>bind everything as instructed on forum post
>test range
>nothing happens
>my fault

really made my electrons fire

>>172731126
>Why is the T90 so much better than the leopard
It isn't, you're just shit

>and who decided to store ammo in the back of the turret or the front of the tank anyway
Germans have been storing ammo in the front of their tanks since the Leopard 1. The Leopard 2 is essentially fucked if it isn't hull down IRL anyways.

As for the turret, the blowout panels /should/ mean that they would never ammorack the tank, it's just not modeled in game because ammoracks are an instakill.

>>172731126
>Why is the T90 so much better than the leopard

But that's not true.

>>172731126
>Why is the Leopard so much better than the T90, and who decided to store ammo in a carousel that gets hit when your lfp is penned from the front?

>>172731164
What post are you talking about?

>>172706903
>Does the ERA at least explode and fly off?
>Does any of the other active protection shit work, even if just manually?
no and no. I think even their armor layout and thickness is mirrored for balance, as hits that should fail on one tank and succeed on another either work or don't on both
>I'm already pretty sure there's no fire control system.
correct. Not even rangefinder or ballistic calculator

>>172722168
Probably because a lot about the T-14 is still classified. And the fact that it's built to be resistant to current modern tanks, including the Leo 2. Or would you like to try penning its 900mm RHMA circle-shaped shell that protects the crew, anon?

>>172707948
>ammo EVERYWHERE
>cant take ammo out of the hull like in the leopard 2 to hide it behind the stronk turret armor
limit yourself to 22 rounds and you should remove it from anywhere outside autoloader

>>172708997
Leopard 2A4 armor was roughly equall to M1A1, so pretty strong, and inferior only to Challenger. A5 base armor is similar to A4, but it also carries NERA on top of it.

PLEASE TELL ME HELICOPTERS ARE NOT JUST AN APRIL FOOLS PRANK LIKE THE MECHS

>rangefinder STILL doesnt work even on modern tanks

>>172733673
it's questionable if T-14 is actually better than modern MBTs. If anything it seem like cost-saving project, to reduce production and maintence costs by modular design and parts standardization across various types of vehicles. Think of it more as modern day Sherman.

I never play WT much but I enjoyed the April Fools game mode.

I prefer life bars and hitpoints over WT gameplay but it was fun.

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>>172734151
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-14_Armata
>"The Vacuum-1 sabot round, developed for the 2A82-1M gun, has a penetrator that is 900 mm long, and is capable of penetrating 1,000 mm of RHA equivalent at a distance of 2,000 meters. The new controlled-detonation Telnik HE-Frag shell is also available and has entered service.[23][24] The gun is also capable of firing guided missiles,[25] a feature first implemented on 1960s Soviet tanks, with a new 3UBK21 Sprinter ATGM developed specifically for it. These missiles can be used for air defense."
>"In the future, the T-14 may use the 2A83 152 mm gun instead of its current 2A82 125 mm gun. This gun, created around 2000 for the T-95 prototype, has a high-speed APFSDS shell with a 1,980 m/s muzzle velocity, only dropping to 1,900 m/s at 2 km. However, Russian engineers have so far kept the 125 mm-size gun, assessing that improvements in ammunition could be enough to increase effectiveness, while concluding that a larger bore weapon would offer few practical advantages.

The T-14 can use anti-aircraft missiles. A 30 mm anti-aircraft gun may be installed instead of the 12.7 machine gun."

>>172734391
>In the future, the T-14 may use the 2A83 152 mm gun instead of its current 2A82 125 mm gun
aaaaand source dismissed

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>>172734391
>2A83 152 mm gun

>>172734572
If there's anything that history has proven is that when the Russians roll out a 152mm armed tank, everything else is fucked.

I can't even begin to imagine the kind of energy a sabot round from that would put into a target.

>>172731126
I think people who think about how you load ammo decided that the back of the turret would help with the loadingspeed.

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>>172734678
I don't even want to think about it, holy fucking shit

>>172734391
It's oddly even more terrifying to know that they made that 152mm gun, and then said "Nah, the 125mm is enough".

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neat

>>172734151
Could be true, its not unusual for newer versions to be a downgrade.
The T.72 is a downgrade from the the T-64 (technically an upgrade from the T-62 but still less "deadly" than the T-62)
The same could be said about the F-35 vs the F22, sometimes newer versions are just supposed to be more cost efficient.

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When do we get the 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV which is also based on the T-14 platform?

>>172734769
If the T-14 is successful... Holy fuck. The ruskies seem to have the wind on their side now aswell

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>>172734391
>>172734925
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kord_machine_gun
What Star Wars-tier machine guns do they put on their tanks?!

>>172734898
not a downgrade from existing tank, more a new MBT that won't cost enough to be scrapped by any non-first world country.
Modern tanks are fucking expensive, and it gets a lot worse, if you have to develop your own tech instead of buying, cooping or leeching it, just look at pricetag of AMX Leclerc, almost 50% more expensive than Challenger 2 or M1A2 SEP, while not offering anything better than what they have

>>172735383
The T-90 is one of, if not the cheapest MBT to produce. And you seem to get a lot for the price as well, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stridsvagn_122#Comparison_with_other_main_battle_tanks

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What am I in for?

why nobody rolls in m36 ?? this thing murders everything

How do I use the rangefinder on the Leo 2 and T-90 lads?

How do I activate the Nvidia bullshit screenshot taker in Replays again? I want to take a screenshot but the HUD doesn't go away from Alt+Z anymore.

>>172735591
Because it's currently the shittest fielded by any nation.

>>172736089
doesnt it use the same gun as the m18? So its just a slower higher rated m18, right?

>>172736161
You dont, Rangefinder has never worked

>>172736234
>t. Burgershill who thinks the M1 Abrahams is perfectly fine at it's price per performance

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>rolling around inna Leo 2A5
>one shotting L I T E R A L L Y everyone
>T-90A carousel loader
>Leopard 2A5 thin as fuck armour
>Hinds can't hit me because of my sick dodging skills
>Apaches can't target me because they only have 8 AT missiles
>Gepard and Shilka rounds just bounce off my hull
>speeding around at mach 10 speed
>all while link related plays of loop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3-Wjmb9PBA

I'm having so much fucking fun holy fuck

>>172734391
>T-14 can use anti-aircraft missiles
But Leopards have had that ability since the A6.

>>172736389
I'm a challengerboo, Vatnik. CR2's the only tank in the world which has seen active Tank on Tank, ATGM on tank, RPG on tank combat and hasn't been lost.

Your tank a shit and your new one breaks down on parades

>also lacks secondary gunnery sights
>autoloader which can eat your arm
>nearly twice the size of a T-90
lol

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>>172736427
>shooting the turret trap on Leo 2s with the 125mm HE

>>172736161
In practice the rangefinding should take half a second while laser detects the range and the barrel adjusts automatically to lead for that range. All you need to do is press fire. Not in this game though.

>>172736352
it has 90 mm, m18 got 76

The fuck, when did they reduce the max file upload to 3MB?

>>172736526
>typing as he gets penned from the front and his turret is launched across his map due to shit tier armor values and carousel loader

lel T-90A a shit

>>172735591
it's old and limited, it was not designed with foward compatibility in mind.
to list few issues
only 22 rounds of usable ammo. Loading from auxiliary racks in hull can take half of minute, and in real combat half, or more, of these 22 rounds will be HE.
no survivability to speak of, crew literally sitting next to ammunition
limited space to improve passive armor. To eliminate weakspots on turret, they had to install entire new turret.
can't retrofit already produced tanks with better passive armor at all. This is very reason why Russians stick so much to ERA, because you can bolt that shit on top of existing armor.

>>172736504
>and your new one breaks down on parades
Retard pulling the emergency break != broken

>>172736623
Bounced more shots from Leos than I thought from everyone's talking, but the Leo 2 is definitively more durable. But that 125mm gun though...

>>172736654
>turn tank
>emergency brake goes on
yeah, who the fuck is gonna believe that

>>172736654
>Retard pulling the emergency break != broken
+10 rubles!

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>>172736389
>implying Burgerland cares about "price per performance" and doesn't just get best perfomance money can buy

>>172736442
M830A1 also comes with proximity fuze, to be used in anti-helicopter role.

>>172736824
>>implying Burgerland cares about "price per performance" and doesn't just get best perfomance money can buy
This is bait right?

>>172736824
Are you the burgershill who keeps think America has the best military equipment all the time?

>>172736654
>install brake, that crew can accidentally engage during driving, and cannot be disengaged without towing vehicle back to maintence shop
not even slav designers could drink enough vodka to come up with something that retarded

>have seen a webm of a T-90 reversing fast enough to doge a TOW
>Reverse rate of 4km/h ingame

Wat

Does this piece of shit aprils fool joke at least have an abrams

>>172736998
We're talking about the same country who rolled out the KV-2 without much thought.

>>172737046
Seriously just stop now burgershill...

>>172737053
The KV-2 was also about as memetic IRL as it is in WT.

It either shot sideways and jammed it's turret or annihilated an entire German armor company.

>>172734898
The T-72 isn't a downgrade from the T-64, it's inferior but the T-64 was for tank divisions whilst the T-72 was an upgrade for the T-62 in the armour support for motorised infantry divisions.

>>172737158
Yeah most of them broke down and were extremely inefficient.. Surprised that the SU-152 proved to be somewhat decent

>>172737046
Why would they put in the shittest NATO tank?

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>>172737158

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>>172737046

>no Abrams
>no Challenger
>no Type 99A
>no Merkava 2
>no Lecleric
>no Type 10

wtf is this gajin?

the reception seems pretty positive so that means the devs will never implement anything from this event right /wtg/?

>>172737326
Why spend more time than needed on a 3 day event? Yeah it would've been nice to have all nations, but it would've been way too much effort into something that lasts so short.

>>172737270
The KV-2 was an emergency stopgap, the SU-152 was actually purpose built.

>>172737317
>Falls over
>Catches on fire

Kek

>>172737424
I believe it was designed to take out fortresses in Finland, and some were transported to other parts of Baltic States. No wonder the Soviet lost so many fucking tanks in The Winter War...

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>>172736161
>>172736385
>>172736534
but there is a rangefinder in the game, but all it will do is tell you the distance, not exact but still

>>172737509
I mean when it worked, it really fucking worked. Impenetrable and destroyed anything that tried to get close. It was just so mechanically impractical. Almost like a German engineered Soviet design.

>>172737580
I was talking about the laser one found on the modern tanks, normal rangefinder doesn't work at all in the event

>>172737617
>I was talking about the laser one found on the modern tanks
And some tanks already in modern War Thunder. Targetting computers are also lacking.

>>172737326
Why would they add modern tanks for tech trees that don't exist?

The Abrams, Challenger and Type 99A is fine to add. The rest is stupid.

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>>172737605
Yeah the 75mm turret bounced almost all German anti-tank guns(see pic), there's actually a few more images of KV-2s bouncing German shells

Also: https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/battle-raseiniai-1941-single-kv-tank-stopped-entire-german-kampfgruppe.html
Would've been nice to know if it was an KV-1 or 2

>>172737757
Not the Type 99 I mean the Type 10

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>>172737797
>finns were ever worse armed
>tried penning the KV2 from all sides but failed
>daisychained ten AT-mines and detracked it in No-Mans-Land
>during the night they climbed the tank and fucked up the MGS and the barrel
>the soviet crew remained inside the vehicle the next day
>the following night the finns installed 20kg of explosives on the roof and blew it back to Moscow

Do jets cause less drag than inlines?

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>>172737617
>normal rangefinder doesn't work at all in the event
I'm not sure what are you talking about, it works for me just fine

>>172738080
Yes, because you can build the airframe to be more aerodynamic when the engine is in the ass

>>172738165
Huh, gotta check again then..

>>172738165
Custom match?

I want to play on different maps, too bro middle east is getting boring

>>172738218
nope, looks like they added more maps to the event map rotation

>>172738279
I really hope this is true

>>172738174
But what about if it's on the wings like with the Me-262?

Do the turbojets still have less drag than inlines would have produced?

>>172738451
Nobody should reply to this unironically because to my knowledge nobody here is an aerodynamics engineer.

>>172738559
I am currently studying aero engineering

Does that count?

Also only reason engines were in the wings was because of how often they needed maintenance.

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>>172738356
oh come on anon, why would I lie to you?

>go into RB in Leo1
>do shit all the time, rarely getting over 2:0 KD
>shots constantly bouncing off slav shit while a fucking AA gun can take me out
>go into RB in Leo2
>wiping the floor with the enemy

Guess the Leo1 really was a piece of shit and has nothing to do with me after all. No wonder Nato shit themselves when the Russians introduced the T72 judging by how my Leo 1 does against T62s and IS4-6s

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>>172738794
I swear to god anon

>>172738904
Been playing modern nonstop and I've only ever been on middle east

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>>172738904
>>172739024
u jelly?

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>>172739131
reee

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Has anyone told the World of Cucks players we have moden tanks now?

>>172739558
I went to shitpost there but a couple screenshots have already been posted

>>172739704
What did the get for April's Fools?

>>172739810
A fiction tank, I think.

>>172737580
OBviously it is in game, it just doesnt work

>>172740028
Hah, mustn't they be jealous?

>>172739810
Bouncing around on a mars map like the moon map a few years ago

>>172740249
Wasn't the moon map last year?

>>172740320
fuck if i know

>oh cool I can fly a helicopter
>spawn points
>alt F4
Call me when Gaijin decides to stop putting obstacles to fun

>>172741148
Get good.

You literally need two kills in a tank to unlock the helicopter, you fucking cuck

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>/wotg/ for the 1st of April are able to buy some rare tank
holy shit they are even more cucked than /wtg/ is

>>172741287
is it a hundred bux too?
It better be.

>>172741287
If it's the TOG II* then it's not even good. It's literally a meme/joke tank that is only good if you go a 3-man platoon. Even then you're basically handicapping your team when you could've just picked better tanks.

>>172681021
Hellicopters ruuules!!!!

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>it's a "all my control presets which have been there for two years get reset in the middle of the round" episode

>>172741615
It's the m6a2 iirc. Rarer than the type 59 by a mile.

Tog isn't rare

>>172743021

Why didn't make a fucking backup you genius

Abrams when

Challenger 2 when?

>>172743091
I guess it is my fault for expecting a bunch of vodka drenched subhuman filth to program a game that doesn't break in massive ways for no reason.

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>>172734391
>152mm SABOT

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for what am i in for ?

Wew flapjack confirmed
https://youtu.be/0TcbJLHJ6sA

>>172743437
>being poor
>2017

>>172743508
bought 3 jets

>>172743221
Germans tried that with 140 mm, but came to conclusion it does nothing 120 mm can't do
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns

>>172743470
it's user made

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>Leopard 2
>not superior Challenger 2 that goes perfectly with the Apache
Reee Nazi bais at full force again

>>172743701
That's weird, the US did similar tests (Google M1 CATTB) And their conclusion was that they'd keep it around in case Soviet armor tech rapidly advanced, however due to ammo capacity issues, among other things, they'd stick with 120mm for as long as they could continue to make it work.

>Leopard 2
>not superior Abrams that goes LITERALLY perfectly with the Apache

>>172743920
that's the point. There are almost always way to increase firepower, question is if it's actually worth troubles it would bring

>WT introduces modern MBTs
>Leopard 2s delete T-72 and T-90 shitboxes
>slavboos cry to no end when their shit tank gets exposed
>Gaijin introduces T-14
>source: literally secrit propaganda documints )))

>>172744083
But America and Russia are allies now.

>>172743920
Though the 130mm is under serious consideration especially for the joint French-German next gen MBT.

We're finding that we're hitting the limit of the 120mm penetration.