/simg/ Simulation Games General

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So, apparently you can do low-G pushovers in a twin-bladed rotor system with the FSX flight model with no ill effects

>>172522704
U N L O A D E D E X T E N S I O N S

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Anyone playing Mius front?
I am having trouble attacking positions, defence is easy and i generally repel the asiatic hordes without much losses. But when i try attacking units dont behave as they should and attack like idiot in straight lines and get massacred.

Also is there any way to find out what kind of anti-tank a at unit has on the map phase?, i really hate when i see at icon and seeing it was a shitty pak 36 in game.

>>172524056
Are you troops exahusted?

/simg/ deserves to die at this point, there's no ops anymore and no new content to discuss.

The general is obsolete

Nobody wants to play with a shitty server from SEA. 100 mbit up/down or no, it's just too far away from everyone.

>>172525436
>DCS

>>172526015
Either dcs or bms. Doesn't matter.

It works within my circle of friends because KOREA MIGHTY BROADBAND. We eat something like 20mbit per player.

Doesn't ever crash and we get to turn every up to 11 for the server.

>>172465161
>Fucking mig 9
>mig 9
>9
Ree
Reeeeee
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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lunaticfringe is the hero DCS needs.

I kinda wanna fly again. What planes are broken in 1.5 right now?

>>172527632
I heard here that the MiG-21 was fucked but idk give it a go.

>>172527880

Can't fly the fishbed, deactivated it in anticipation of that patch they're gonna push that's supposed to partially unfuck starforce for it.

>>172527292
Banned
Reason: OT

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>>172525123

The problem is initial orders phase does nothing, even though i give nearly every squad its individual order some obey some dont, and i have to order them again at the start of the battle.
There are no estimated time of arrivals for the troops so a coordinated attack is almost impossible to arrange without constant corrections.
In the attack machine guns just dont work properly. They either sit like idiots and dont fire at anything for minutes than at their whim try to squeeze a few burst or they try to rush the enemy with 98ks and mp40s. Only way to make them work is by giving them a seperate move order behind the main attack and hope they shoot at something from there.

While large groups are moving some squads get seperated from the group somehow and the entire group waits for them to link up even in the midst of enemy fire and delay their attacks until than. Worst offender was when a sdkfz with an infantry squad was moving towards the enemy lines sdkfz got seperated from its dismounted squad . When i gave the move order in the direction of the seperated squad sdkfz waited for the squad members to come to it by foot before moving at the same direction again.

Decent coordinated attacks are almsot impossible in this game, if you absolutely have to attack your best hope is give the entire groups a giant attack order and hope for the best.

ded

is this just vehicle sims or do sports/business/job stuff go here too?

>>172535825
regulars will roooo at that but honestly /simg/ is pretty fucking stagnant so why not

>>172535879
I'd rather the general just died desu

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>Modern F-15E sim never.

>>172536229
just post anime to trigger the "anim is pedo" faggots

>>172536229
Just leave...
But don't attention whore in the thread with your let it die meme

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>>172537797
>cuckwaffe

Anyone want to il2 tonight? Like the good old days. Not wasting your time playing warmeme red dragon dildos

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>>172538129
>insulting /wgg/
YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS

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cute planes?

sometimes when i ramp start the Ka-50, the secondary INS system (the one that isn't the ABRIS) and the datalink system won't turn on

what am I doing wrong

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How 2 get tacview for free?

>>172537797
>he doesn't know about optimal time to energy state maneuvers

L M A O

>>172536229
so, why not just have a dcs or fightsim general?
I'd like to talk about/get advice on "realistic" wrestling games, hunting games, submarine games, tank games and train games.

I can understand getting buttmad about the Hunter: CotW because it's arcade-y af but i'd really want to know which wwe2k game is worth buying.

>>172541102

>submarine, tank, and train games
There are literally pastebins for all but the train stuff in the op, and train simulator is explicitly allowed in the op.

If we're going to allow WWE shit in here we may as well say elite dangerous is a sim or some shit then too because both are entirely fantasy :^)

>>172541102
The OP should say "A thread for vehicle simulation games"

However the memelord who made this thread left it out for some reason.


Basically this is the general for flight sims. Not gaichimuchi wwe gayms

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>>172541379
>However the memelord who made this thread left it out for some reason.
sorry i am new to this

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Thread is dead as fuck because I don't post anymore.

I was literally posting almost every hour for the last year. Half the damn posts in every thread was me.

I just don't give a shit anymore, and can't be assed to post or even browse.

Sorry fa ms

>>172542129
>tfw shit posting with warthunder-tier memes

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This ought to get discussion going.


>mfw the US got btfo by gook rice farmers

>>172542129

There's not a lot to give a shit about anymore 2bh. ED keeps shooting itself in the dick and making us pay for it, every third party is too busy going into fucking bankruptcy to actually release anything (and even when they do release something, it's a meme plane that isn't terribly useful for OPS and gets broken every update), BMS is only interesting if you want to stick your dick in the F-16's tailpipe, and IL-2 is only interesting if you're a Nazi/Communist sympathizer

And then every sim genre that isn't flight sims is fucking d e a d. I'd fucking kill for more SABOW-level tank sims (that specifically have actual game stuff to them like SABOW does, as opposed to Steel Beasts's sterile sandbox with an over-reliance on scripting), or a proper successor to Dangerous Waters.

It's depressing, man. I just want to play cool military sims with people who aren't going to blacklist me if I say "nigga" accidentally in conversation, but sims are fucking dead and /simg/ is like the only simgames-y group that isn't 100% shit.

>>172542557
but we discussed this and eventually agreed US actually won because mcdonalds

>>172542712
>muh macdonalds

Yeah they get fast food after shooting down over 1000 of your planes. real victory

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Since it is now allowed in the OP, lets discuss arma3

>>172544010
surpress, fire and maneuver

do this over until success or fail, make youtube videos laughing out loud over really stupid jokes there you go, arma in a nutshell

>>172539379
Vacuum tubes

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>>172544974

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>tfw the banter is gone

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>>172529836
No mius front players? Anyone ?

>>172547803
Dead thread I'm sorry.

Cute anime tho

>anime
kys

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Anime is better than sims

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>>172549410
I wouldn't sat that now

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anime out reeeeee

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>>172549736
does anyone really care at this point?

>>172549940

There is nobody here to care.

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>>172549865

>>172544010
i got this in the humble bundle.
was a big fan of arma2 and opfl but this seems like some broken fantasy shit.

I really like the posture system but it seems like they fucked up everything else. Do i need apex to make it good?

>>172542697
do you have a southern accent?
do you say shit like "nigga, u dumb" or are you say "you dumb nigger." there's a difference and it's big for some.

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>>172544010
a weapon to surpass metal gear

>>172541261
kayfabe and fantasy are pretty different things. and a game that simulated both would be great.

i know there's a couple text/menu based games that do that but graphics are nice and I'm interested in some CAW leagues if they arent super autistic.

>>172541261
>WWE shit in here we may as well say elite dangerous is a sim

im not super familiar with ED but if it actually simulates a vehicle and space flight and didn't have it's own general then yes.

doesn't this general regularly do fantasy ops with planes and weapons that were never actually deployed?

>>172553025
No. Because sims are lame and dont allow fun

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>>172553025
we can't allow elite dangerous because we'll get confused with ED :^)

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>>172553196
maybe we should just make a dad game general

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>>172553814
>tfw becoming a dad gamer but no wife to make children yet

not like this

>>172553998
dont't feel bad. everyone here's gotta be 30+, ex-military or straight underage autismo.

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I fucking hate you lazy faggots.
I take a break for a few days and you shitheads all drift away.
Rooooo

>>172524056

Press F3 in the operational phase, find your unit and hover over the name (45mm gun platoon or whatever) and it should tell you exactly what kind of equipment they carry.

Never attack trenches head on, if you have to then make sure you attack from different sides and always keep them suppressed or your assault will fail. Either use the Assault command (your units prioritze firing over manuvering) or the Attack command (the oppsite, they will try to use smoke to cover their advance) depending on the situation. You can also customize every command by pressing space or right click, I don't really remember.

So basically suppress the enemy and manuever your troops into cqc with the enemy . Grenades are extremely powerful and your soldiers will throw them like crazy when they get in range.

>>172518640
Why did it die when we were moving fast for once

>>172557673
Europoors just woke up and americunts were in bed getting ready to be a good goy for the next work day.
I bumped with that P-47 picture and then it died after I went to sleep.

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goodnight /simg/~

>>172547803
/wgg/ is dead senpai

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Steel Armor Blaze of War is 25% off on Steam right now, worth it or should I try some other tank sim?

Playing Falcon BMS 4.33
I know the basics and I played DCS A-10 before, but I'm really hopeless when it comes to the details of how to actually put things into practice.

Doing campaign now, almost all the missions in the beginning are SEAD/DEAD. It seems my HARMs miss like 90% of the time. I do get some hits so I don't think what I'm doing is fundamentally wrong, and they usually hit in Instant Action. Am I firing them too far? I usually release them as soon as my HTS pod can see them on the HAD. So basically I go towards the steerpoint that marks the target, see a '5' there (I assume it's the SA-5), lock it up on the HAD. Then the large targeting circle in the HUD immediately starts flashing, which I assume it means that it has a good firing solution. I also make sure that the small circle that I assume is the missile boresight is near the center. And I still get way too many misses.

I'm also pretty much playing Russian Roulette with air defenses. Often the route generated for the mission leads me straight above half a dozen SA-2 which should be able to reach me, but they don't seem to want to fire on me. Am I just supposed to ignore them?

Second, how do you ideally approach air battles? What I usually do after finding a group of enemies is to put them at 1-2 clock, fire off all my SPAMRAAMS, then turn on full afterburner and run home. I usually don't dare going into Sidewinder range.

Oh yeah, one more thing. Is there a more efficient way for telling friendlies from enemies on the FCR besides declaring every single target to the AWACS? I know about the data link but that only marks my package and there are tons of blues flying around everywhere.

>>172536286
anime actually is the legal alternative for pedos, you faggot

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>"archer on ur six "

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>>172563704
>/a/utist on my board

>>172562762
The HARM has a higher chance of hitting depending on how much radar energy is coming your way.

Basically to have a higher hit chance be a madman and get him to lock you.

No IFF because ))) so asking AWACs is your best bet

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>>172562762
I'm no expert and you've probably gathered this already, but HARMs basically operate by seeking out radar energy emitted by the respective anti-air sites - therefore, the more energy radiating from these sites leads to a greater probability of kill.

It's a possibility that the SA-5 in this case isn't using its radar. If it's a dark green/grey '5' it means the radar isn't emitting and there's basically no chance it'll hit (you'll just be wasting ammo).

On the other hand, if it's yellow it means the radar is in search mode. You have a good chance to kill red. If the '5' is red even better: it means the radar is tracking a target. If it's flashing red then it's actively guiding a missile (not necessarily towards you) and it is at this moment that you have the best probability of kill.

With this in mind, you may want to consider "baiting" the SAM site - getting close to it and putting it into search or track mode. I've noticed that if you turn back away from the SAM site the AI turns the radar back off again and the '5' should go back to grey.


Sorry if you already knew this, but it's only thing I can think of. Please see attached a screenshot of the BMS manual which explains better than I can.

Also on air battles I usually just approach targets based on what they are. Love shooting down MiG-21s but as a death means a permanent loss of an airframe in the campaign I rarely if ever go towards 27s or 29s.

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>>172550870
get mods, RHS or CUP which brings modern stuff to game, F-14, F-15 and F-16 jets from firewill are good, POOK SAM pack for AA defence some other good mods (BWmod, F18, Su-35 mods, Pook bomber pack, etc)
Then install some maps, pic related, Aleppo 143kmx143km map and spawn enemies in ZEUS and do fucking OPS
There are unlimited options.

>>172564852
yo this looks lit

>>172564468
>>172564621
Thanks, that's useful. I didn't think of actually baiting the radar to lock me up. It's pretty cool if the HARM is simulated to take the difference between search and track mode into consideration.

And thinking back yeah, it was probably dark green. I assumed that if it's visible on my HAD then the radar is on. Did the system just remember the position of the radar, even though it was off?

>a death means a permanent loss of an airframe in the campaign I rarely if ever go towards 27s or 29s.
I died once or twice, I think we have about 14 F-16s left. My wingman also gets himself shot down every second mission. Should I just tell him to RTB right at the start, or just avoid risky situations? Is it pretty much game over if we run out of aircrafts?

>>172544314
>>172544010
>made up guns
>made up vehicles
>icons and markers everywhere
>alternative life servers
>""""sim"""""

this is why arma is a joke and is not welcome here

>>172565661
I have no clue how it shows where the radar is even if it's not emitting, lmao. Maybe it's just picking up trace amounts of radiation or something idk.

Have a go ordering your wingman about with the W key, tell him to go music on and weapons free, or just tell him RTB if he keeps getting killed. Or find someone to play with online. I would love to play I'm a noob myself but too busy :[

Should i get ARMA 3? Will people bully me?

Is it too hard?

>>172567094
Okay im not getting it i don't like bullies.

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>>172567094
Fuck off. Arma 3 is most complete sandbox simulator today.

>>172566648
Arma 3 is OKAY, just don't play with anyone from 4chan or other autists.

>>172567418
what part of arma is actually """"simulating""""

the make-believe planes?????

just KYS faggot

>>172567664
Can you fly a plane in Steel beast pro? Can you move around as infantry and shot someone in DCS world? IN ARMA 3 YOU CAN!!!

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>>172568405
using that logic Battlefield 2 is a sim too ..

in fact Project Reality or Squad are a lot better than arma and more simulative..

>reminder that pic related is arma level of simulations lads

>>172568405
I think Arma is fun but if you think the planes in it are anything above absolute shit you're wrong.

>>172565661
No, you can essentially play as any squadron in the campaign. I suggest you look up how to frag your own packages and learn how to use the PAKs, the missions AI makes are usually pretty suicidal

>>172568724
>dcs fagets can't even get a gen3 mig25
>arma already has gen5+++++ a10

lmoaing @ ur life

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>>172569330
delet this

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>>172569330
>arma cucked dcs

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>>172569330
>/simg/ is now /a3g/

>>172568724
Goddamn they half assed the future setting so much

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>>172569843
>check the op
>/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /wtg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /aceg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /a3g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/
>a3g
>aceg
>wtg
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?

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Pic related in DCS when

>>172570308
the Typhoon is shit and you deserve VEAO

>>172570443
But it looks so cool

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all of you got meme'd

>>172570443
How is Typhoon shit?

Is Rafale better?

>>172572269
In every way pretty much yeah,

t. teeb

>>172570308
F-35 when?
Maybe in 2035

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Fuck you guise

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>We once played DCS ops everyday
>We once had BMS ops every day
>We were once enternal memelords on blueflag
Fuck this gay shit
I wanna the glory days back.
I blame harmtard :^)

Hi ;^)
Is this the three 4 MURSHUN?!!????

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So how's the Viggen?

>>172544010
It's shit, play Squad.

>/discussion.

>>172567418
""""SANDBOX SIMULATOR""""

>A bunch of overgrown children making sandcastles and crying when other overgrown children kick them over.

Arma died with Arma2.

>>172579769
No glass cockpit no buy

>>172579769
Swedish and fast

Will DCS World ever have decent dynamic campaign or better mission generator?
After discovering Falcon BMS I just can't go back to those few dozen static missions, even though I love flying the 'hog. I exclusively play single player because I'm too shy to talk on the mic, so good mission variety ends up being the single most important thing after a few weeks of playing.

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How hard would it be to become a third party DCS dev?

>>172580631
xaxaxaxaxa why would you want dynamic missions when you can download ED's quality campaigns for $10 each

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Is this thread still toxic? How about some /comfy/

>>172581661
The only requirement is that you're only allowed to create boring aircraft from the '40-60s.

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Sunset and sunrise are just so photogenic

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#tbt to a simpler time.

>>172581661
Really fucking hard, judging by the number that popped up with something solid looking and were then never heard from again. Remember that NH-90 video?

Why do plane autists hate ARMA so much?

Why don't people create "fantasy" study sims of classified aircraft? For example there's no way we'll have an F-35, or even an F-22 study sim anytime soon because so much is classified, but why can't they make an inaccurate study sim and fill in the blanks?

We do know the rough capabilities of the aircraft, I totally wouldn't care if they just copied the F-16 or A-10 MFCD menus and made up something similarly complex for the unknown functionalities.
It's not like the current DCS World sims are accurate at all when it comes to weapon simulation, radars and so on. I'd so buy a fake F-35 study sim that's on the level of the A-10.

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>>172582357
What happened?

Why did we slowly grow apart?

Is BoS worth getting just for tanks

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>>172582985
Shitposting, mainly. Everyone calling everyone else's favorite thing a piece of shit and telling them to kill themselves is kind of toxic to a community

>>172582643

because planes are either done well, or they are done fucking horribly. There is no in between.

Once you fly good sims, everything else just feels awful.

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>>172583294
BoS is worth getting for old planes and fun

>>172582985
me on the far left

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>design flanker
>its worse than the F-15
>decide to basically re-do the entire aircraft
>still worse than the F-15

what the fuck sukhoi

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>>172583464
>I cant handle bantz in the thread so I'm be a faggot autist
kill yourself

>>172584441

>waaaahhhh why are people leaving my thread?!?!
>waaahhhh why are there no ops?!?!?

You're why dumbass.

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>>172584715

>>172584830

If you didn't give a fuck you wouldn't cry about the thread/ts being so shit/dead

>>172583568
but it's not a flight sim. they flying just has to be serviceable.

>>172585394
>RAZBAM can get FLIR working
>It's been broken on the A-10 pod for years

>>172585489
It's not ever servicable

>>172585489
Fucking battlefield has better flight models. Arma should just give up on planes entirely and make helicopters more fleshed out.

>>172585489

But that's wrong.

Serviceable = unflyable trash

Its sounds really elitist, but its true. Anything that is trying to be """realistic""" feels terrible.

Games that are meant to be video games are different, because they aren't trying to go for realism.

Does anyone know the name of the flight sim where you were just a random jet during a war that happens whether or not you take part in it?
Pretty sure you could just refuse literally every mission and the game would just play itself out. Also fairly sure it was based on a real war.
Sorry for the vague description.

>>172584206
HAHAHA KEEP DREAMING, YANKEE. THE SZU-27 WOULD D-E-S-T-R-O-Y THE F-15 ANY TIME ANY DAY GG EZ.
First of all, BVR is a meme that only works then you're fighting Cold War era aircraft (like you faggot americans usually do). Any modern aircraft is going to have a small radar footprint, combined with radar jamming that guarantees that all engagements are going to happen within 10nm. Not! Just kidding. The R-27ET, which is a medium range missile with a similar range of usual radar guided missiles, BUT!!!! with an IR seeker would completely obliterate the F-15s from near-BVR before they even knew what hit them. It completely outranges your shitwinders and you can't use your shamraams against superior jamming.

Glorious mother Russia also came out with their own off-boresight missiles and head mounted targeting systems far before you even thought of copying them. The R-73 is completely superior to the AIM-9X, so you would also get OWNED any time it comes to dogfighting. Did you think you can just furball and hope for the best? BAM! FLANKER GOES COBRA MANEUVER AND YOU'RE DEAD GG NO RE. Your piece of shit F-15 is completely out of its league both long, medium and short range.

>>172586060
Probably not what you're thinking of, but Falcon 4.0 / Falcon BMS literally has this with the dynamic campaign. It generates missions in real time with 10-20 missions happening simultaneously at any moment and you can pick between them or make your own.

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>>172586064

>>172586412
who is this qt

>>172586464
https://myanimelist.net/anime/33489/Little_Witch_Academia_TV

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u nigs all pakis or s m h

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>>172576284
I blame the dumb BR monkey and his drama with the furfag driving everyone decent away

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>>172586412

best girl from best show

>>172587124
No one cares about the furfags, all they do is talk about their daily lives anyway.

>raptor was so cancerous he got banned from the /kspg/ discord
LMAO!

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>"we need a new name for the Su-27 that's gonna break all the record, since Su-27 is still classified. Any ideas?"
>"My father died in Stalingrad in 1942, his name was Peter."
>"P-42 it is then, good job everyone"

true story.

>>172589975
haha holy shit

how bad do you have to be to get banned from the fucking /kspg/ discord hahaha

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>>172590420

>After modifications the P-42 has a thrust-to-weight ratio of 2
>It's breaks were not strong enough to hold the aircraft on the ground when throttling up, so they tied it to a tractor that would remote disconnect a cable to allow it to take off

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*blocks your path*

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>>172596304

>those arms

AHAHAHAHAH

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>>172596753
What did you say about my arms good sir?

>>172584441
Case in point

is this still /simg/? i thought i was in another thread for a second

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>>172599161
I guess anon ran out of sim related pictures for bumping this dying thread.

>>172603971

yeah I'm done fa m

https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.ca/

new article about beh em peh

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>>172603971

>>172567664
Hey tween faggot. Arma simulates many things. Shit, it can do FLIR while over in DCS...'crickets'

How about projectile physics? Does them pretty damn well. Yeah, Arma does simulate many things. Hows school?

>>172598949
lmao best meme ball ive seen

>>172612530
>Hows school?
pretty good. ive been spending a lot of time on that school terrorism attack rp server

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>the dadposter is back
can we permaban all dadposters already?

>>172617679
don't worry when DCS is finally good they'll all be dead.

>>172586060
Strike Fighters 2?
Air Duel: 80 Years of Dogfighting?

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don't know why I'm still bumpin this shitty ass thread.

>>172624741
We used to have active milsim communities in the past years. What happened?

why don't we become a new arma3 group?
we have a lot of talented people in this thread. i am sure we can pull of a good arma group.

>>172625398
Eagle Dynamics releases nothing interesting and the old games that we've been playing since the 90s got stale.

>>172625740
As soon as we do the cancer will come flooding

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3096788&postcount=45

>Fixed radar ground reflections’ algorithm while flying inverted

They did it. The absolute madmen

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>>172626286
>implying the cancer isn't already here
oh mate...

>>172627469
>There's already a little bit of shit in here, might as well flood the whole room with shit!

>see xplane on torrents
>well lets try it then
ha-ha what is this shit? They legit copy-pasted photos as textures EVERYWHERE. What is this 2005? 9 out of 10 things do nothing, [not simulated] shouldnt be a thing ffs. Controls are hell...
Reviews on steam are clearly bought, so theres that too...
Is anyone actually playing this garbage? Y'all shittin on DCS but holy fuckin hell xplane is like a 3rd stage cancer patient.

>>172628258
Did xplane not even have anti aliasing ?

Now that simg finally is about to be gone,
who were the people posting anime?
Fess up lads!

>>172536256
Best you're gonna get is the Milviz F-15E for P3D.

>>172536256
Isn't razbam working on one?

>>172632389
Not yet, but is in their sights. Harrier, super tucano, mirage, A7 and A6 first though.

>>172628258
Just play FSX/P3D if you want to fly civilian aircraft. There are lots of third party study sim level aircraft for them.

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Should we merge back with the furries so we can have ops again?

>>172634801
Why would going back mean we have ops?

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>>172590817
kek

>>172637607
Is that the glider version made for hard economic times and oil shortage?

>>172636687
furries have dedication to their fetish and thus their life

it's a well known fact that furries are generally the most successful type of people

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>>172639681
So why did Ivan get bodied by his mommy and why does he work at Walmart?

>>172639820
>free servant and easy work

don't see anything wrong T B H

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>>172639681
>geys die a avg of 20 years before good people
>i will outlive the furrys
just more mad gains

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>>172639681
So furries saving their autism bux to commissions pictures of wolves rimming eachother means we'll get ops?

>>172640487
yup, it's the only way

>>172640693
I fail to see the correlation really

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>>172640487
>He dosen't extort money cucks so he can commission drawings of him and his boyfriend as dogs sitting on a park bench holding each other's throbbing dog cocks
Wow.... Wrong side of history 2bh senpai.

How is 11's performance?

dood

Who's down for sending BOS tonight?
Deadass?
Paki?
Banana man?

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>>172647997
can i kill aryans?

>>172647997
been playing on and off between uni work and I've been getting good.


I'll play

Are missiles underpowered in flight sims?
Both in DCS and Falcon BMS, you're lucky to get a kill from 15-20nm with the AIM-120C, but wikipedia says they have a range of 60nm.

15nm is hardly even BVR.

>>172649039
Nobody knows their true performances. Also missiles aren't ever likely to hit things at max range anyway.


DCS missiles are fucked though yes

Well three is enough for me.
BOS tonight lads.
Be there... or be a paki
Also I think haless killed himself after grump posted that MiG-25 ruse in the thread.
RIP harmtard, you were a good Slavboo.

War thunder ops when??

http://warthunder.com/en/news/4618-news-modern-tanks-and-helicopters-arrive-on-war-thunder-s-frontlines-en/

>>172649449
>playing bore blunder
kys!

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>>172649449
>War Thunder got a Hind AND an Apache before DCS

>lose interest in dcs for a few months
>decide to jump back in
>have to spend a week re-teaching myself the aircraft I don't fly often

I really wish there were DCS guides that weren't just full of bullshit. Like, even Chuck's guides are too long IMO. There is no aircraft in DCS that needs more than two pages to completely cover- I want a startup checklist that is DCS specific (so checking warning lights, monitoring gauges, etc is omitted), very brief descriptions of how to use certain weapons, and then a table for takeoff rotation/approach/landing speeds, and basic performance (i.e. corner speed, max sustained turn speed/Gs, max instantaneous turn speed/Gs).

Like I feel like everyone who produces tutorial content for DCS is too busy smelling their own farts about how they're so cool and they fly a simulator to actually want to move mud/body slavs/shlem on yanks, so they just spend twenty pages showing you how much lingo they know.

>>172649195

I knew it was Grump because I knew he's been making a MiG-25 model for a while.

Thought at most ED might put his model in the game, that's the most that I expected.

>>172649039
I felt at least from the messing around I did in BMS that AIM-120Cs killed shit most of the time

at least the cheap shit

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>>172649728
I had this happen twice to me, then I started making my own notes and step by step instructions.

It's not hard, for example just go through a startup guide, see what can you omit without breaking the aircraft and write it down once.

>>172650467

I probably should do that, it's just a drag to spend so much time re-learning the same shit repeatedly.

Also like real talk has anyone made a minimal-bullshit guide to the viggen yet? I'm sure it's simpler than I feel like it is, I remember being able to fly it and use it relatively competently before I fucked off of DCS, but now it's like the whole thing is a goddamn UFO to me. Not being able to read a damn word in the cockpit doesn't help.

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>>172649167
>Nobody knows their true performances
Fuck off slavboo. The 120 has been used billions of times all over the world and no game models it correctly because it would BTFO everything else.

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>>172649958
Yo wtf I haven't heard my deadasses voice in days nigga wtf I be like cryin

>>172651332

>billions
Lol its been used like 10 times, and one of those was to kill friendly US Chinooks.

>>172651332
Yes Raytheon would publicly disclose the performance details of their best missile to slavs making a simulator

>>172649728
Make your own. You should be taking notes anyway.

>>172652263

I'm dead fa m, I killed my self deadass

>>172650467
Any chance you can post the full contents of that? It was really interesting, I didn't know (although I suspected) you could get bullseye on the HUD.

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MORE HELICOPTERS WHEN??

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>>172653439
Craig has taken a liking to you
Craig wants you to come back
Craig has your Facebook and address and will release it if you don't talk to him.
My precious.

>>172639681
>this is true
>the more devient your fetish, the harder you have to work to keep it a secret.
>pedos are all doctors, dentists, bishops and media producers

the jews killed the frogs so furrys can become gay but frogs cant die because frogs are made of .pngs
stay \woke/ lads

>>172653586
Sure. Mind you that it's just something I wrote down once with very little error checking.

https://pastebin.com/4tDnZpc6

>>172655697
Thanks.

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remember when planes and wargmes general was combined?
we should bring hexgames to this thread, you could argue they are sims also

who wants to play some winspww2 and winspmbt PBEM games

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how many times can I bump someone elses general before I become a cuck desu

>>172660783
What are the parameters you recommend for winspmbt? For me it's always either the infantry is undedable or nothing hits or some shit like that.

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A US Navy supercarrier was teaching a class on Freedom of Navigation, a known imperialist concept.
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship AirSea Battle and accept that it is the most revolutionary doctrine military affairs has ever known, even greater than the People's War!”
At this moment, a brave, patriotic, PLAN shore battery who had conducted over 1500 test launches and understood the necessity of building new islands and fully supported all military decision made by the Politburo stood up and held up a WU-14.

”How many of these can you shoot down, gwai lo?”

The arrogant professor smirked quite Japanesely and smugly replied “All of them, you coolie peasant.”
”Wrong. Aegis has not even been tested against superior DF-21 ASBM system. The age of the carrier... is over.”
The professor was visibly shaken, and failed to acquire track or unjam her CIWS in time. She sank beneath the waves broadcasting that crocodile SOS. The same SOS American spy planes broadcast over the "reckless" PLAAF pilots (who in fact were only defending their sovereign airspace) when they bravely ram invading imperialist aircraft. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, USS Gerald R. Ford, wished she had pulled herself up by her bootstraps and become more than an obsolete weapons platform. She wished so much that she had a next-generation ASM to sink herself in embarrassment, but her own Navy had failed to deploy one!

The Taiwanese all applauded and accepted unification under one system that day. A panda named "Authoritarian Government" waddled into the room and sat down under the Chinese flag and shed a tear on the CIWS. "The East is Red" was sung several times, and Mao himself showed up and established Chinese hegemony across East Asia.

The professor lost her escorts and was mothballed the next day. She was decommissioned and sold for scrap to help service America's debt to China.

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>>172661679
>he is bumping my meme thread
thanks famalam but you are already cucked

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>>172661857
infantry is annoyingly resilient, but i've never tried messing around with the settings.

winspww2 is probably more suitable a setting for the engnie desu, the ranges and how fast everything dies in mbt is a bit over the top

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We can decide a list if the poll votes in favor for the change.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12646976

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>>172649728
I would love to make an F/A-18C guide when it comes out as I'd be a total noob to it despite it being my favourite aircraft.

Of course I'll be dead by the time ED releases it so oh well.

>>172662594
I think wargame red dragon while fun and 'authentic' doesn't really try and be realistic so isn't really suitable; despite the delicious irony of simg taking /wgg/ under its wing

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another good hex game is Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm

it has a unique turn based system where your turn length is based on how coherent your command structure is, ECM, how far apart your units are ect; as well as being different between soviet and nato.

Also soviet units use company sized counters while nato units use platoon sized counters; adding some more interesting asymmetry

>>172662807
It can be with mods.
Flacon 4.0 ain't a fucking sim but BMS sure is.
Same can be applied to WG RD

>>172663478
what good realism mods are there for wargame rd

>>172663604
not him, but i heard of uralvagonmod

>>172664328
not realistic, not updated, and no one plays it
wargame is unsuitable, it doesn't even make an attempt to 'simulate' anything; and neither do any of the mods

>>172664471

It's not realistic but it's authentic.

It's impressive how much detail goes into weapon names and from the little that I know their capabilities compare to each other well.

Like AA missiles have super short range because it's a game, but the ranges compare realistically to each other which is as much as you can ask for.

WG honestly has a lot of really unique gameplay mechanics, which is why I'm not at all excited for the WWII one. While it will probably be decent, there's just so much cool shot in Wargame because of its time period, that won't be in a WWII game.

For example, they model the difference between active and semiactive missiles. It's a no brained to us, but that's impressive for an RTS. Also SEAD.

>>172665298
it has the PATRIOT as a motorized AA vehicle that can stop and fire and move again in 1 second

every single stat in the game is changeable whenever the devs choose to try and apply their braindead idea of balance, it isn't a simulator; its at most ''''authentic'''' and therefore not aloud itt

play hexgames instead , or cm:black sea or whatever
so many better choices rather than polluting a slow thread with garbage

>>172665528
>>172665298
to put into perspective warthunder arcade mode is much more of a simulator than red dragon, and that's not aloud

>>172665782
>>172665528

I'm not arguing it's a simulator. It's not. But it's a good step up from the average RTS game.

You also don't make the rules and poll disagrees with you anyway.

>>172666231
the average rts game being starcraft and supcom lol

http://www.strawpoll.me/12647347

Speaking of Wargame, I hear it's mostly aimed at multiplayer.
Is it enjoyable in single player?

>>172666947
no

>>172663068
Fuck off shill

*quotes everyone who mentions game positively itt*
fuck off shill

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>Grand Strategy, Turn Based Strategy and Real Time Strategy are now simulators
Whew

>>172667495
genres aren't simulators, but every genre has simulation games

>>172667614
I think you're mixing up the words "simulator" and "realistic".

>>172667819
wrong

>>172665298
WRD is too micro intensive for a wargame.
The bigger problem with it though is just how unrealistic a lot of it is.

Artillery shells are big smoky subsonic flares in the sky.
Units have fucking HP bars. This might work with infantry, but with tanks it's retarded.
Tanks don't have smoke dischargers and rely on artillery or mortars firing them.

One of the biggest issues is the deck system: There's no such thing as an order of battle. Units have to be bought, meaning you fight with what you want instead of what you have, meaning retarded shit like armies of "prototypes" that never left the drawing board, or future tanks from the mid 90's to early 00's participating in a setting that revolved around the mid-late 80's.

Aircraft are way too plentiful thanks to this system as well and take not even a minute to call in, which means your force that you spent a longer time creating and planning can just be one-clicked out of existence. Nevermind that the balance is atrocious.

A lot of elements in WRD actually punish you for maneuvers instead of rewarding you, with destruction favoring slow attrition warfare with said artillery and planes, whereas conquest also... favors slow attrition warfare with a focus on "sniping" command vehicles with artillery and planes. You can see how frustrating this gets then one side's artillery and planes are far superior to another's.

tl;dr red dragon is not a wargame, it's more or less a spiritual successor to WiC, at least WEE and WALB were.

>>172666947
Oh, and I forgot to mention the awful AI. Frenchies didn't even bother to program basic concepts like attacking and defending. The AI's modus operandi is literally just "buy lots of whatever counters the player's force (since we can see what he has all the time thanks to cheats) and fast move it to his command vehicles"
The difficulty levels don't make it smarter, they just change how much it spams.

>>172667996
this ^^

>>172667996

You've been playing forever so your opinion is jaded because you faggots hate everything.

>>172667996
Sounds like the amazing AI Ubishit made for Heroes of Might and Magic VI.
It doesn't even have an economy, he just gets free units every week, and attacks you as soon as he thinks his army is stronger than yours.

>>172668242
moron

>>172668242
No, I've merely switched to superior titles like >>172663068
and >>172660783. Well, the latter has it's own annoyances, but still. There's a ton of actual wargames out there that at least try to simulate concepts.

Red Dragon's "naval" combat was an abortion from day one. What's better? Jane's Fleet Command. Dangerous Waters. War in the East. There's a ton of naval wargames and actual simulators that do it way better.

>>172647997
I'll play, designate a time because "tonight" means anything.

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hexgames are boring autismal trash.
might as well play a bored game

wargame is where its at its way cooler and funner. you can zoom in on the units!!!!!

>>172670449
yeah we should let in more fun and cool games like arma too where you can play as infantry soldiers too!

>>172670590
kys thx

>>172670590

yeah truuuu the a-10 in dcs is shit its not even stealth like fucking seriuosly?

the one in arma is stelath and is way better

Warthunder added t-90s, hinds, and apaches for april fools

Haha ED should add in WWII planes into their game for April Fools haha

oh wait

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whats the best sim if i want to operate

>>172649449
i fucking hate war thunder but this might make me reinstall for the memes

>>172668526
Amerilard west coast 5 oclock

>>172671880
I'm down.

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>>172671880
>a thread about neets larping as fighter pilots
>cant even use UTC
top kekkoni

>>172672065

>UTC
>not Zulu

kill your self

>>172671163
kill me senpai

>>172672380
>Zulu
sup gramps

>>172671237
did the guy on the door die?

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>>172672593
>>172671163
GOT EM

>>172672746
What else do military ops use?

Games that should be added to the new OP.
MOWAS w/Robz
Wargame series
Operation flashpoint
DEFCON
Graviteam series
What else?

>>172676920
Arma3

>>172677197
this

>>172677197
not a sim

>>172676920
Fuck off Tony

>>172676920
remove wargame add winspww2, winspmbt, and flashpoint:rsr

>>172676920
Sim City, it even has simulator in its name

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guys after a day of moving stock, I have awoken to the comfiness of transporting goods.

If I were get into sky trucking what's the best options/mods? I have FSX but haven't really done much with it

>>172676920
None of them

>>172678712
Does it have to be goods instead of passengers?
The Airbus A320 mod for FSX is comfy, first hit on the pirate bay.

>>172679026
ok ill try that

also is mouse and keyboard okay? Just away from my joystick atm

>>172678712
/woke/ lad

>>172679234
You can pretty much fly the A320 with autopilot only. The only time you need manual input is when rotating during takeoff. Then you press autopilot and don't turn it off until next time you're stopped on the runway.

>>172679605
what a time to be alive

>>172679605
>>172679690
soon google will release their roboplanes and we finally don't need pilots anymore

>>172679690
It's fun. The mod also includes a cutiepie copilot girl (voice only, no 3d model, sorry) who reads checklists for you so you don't have to memorize the whole startup sequence right away (you can turn if off if you want), and if you can't find something you can let her flip the switch for you.

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>>172680429
>qt copilot
have the memes gone too far?

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>>172680429
cuuuute~

just got xplane 11, what am i in for?

>>172681517
disappointment

>>172677902
No.
I'll add those three.
When I get home I'll make a new OP.

>>172684057
fine ill make the op and ill remove wargame myself because its garbage

>mad catz going bankrupt and taking saitek with it
the best timeline

>>172684557
i enjoy my saitek x45 though

>>172684557
Logitech bought shitek last year.

>>172684785
gib

>>172684864
FUCK

>the worst timeline

>>172684978
>>172684864
Wasn't saitek only shit BECAUSE of Madcatz?

>>172684329
People in the poll voted for it.
It's will be added to the next OP.
If you didn't want that you should have voted no.

>>172687631
http://www.strawpoll.me/12647347/r
kys

>>172687718
Wew now this is an excuse to make this a Men of War circlejerk?

>no captcha
>Made 4 hours ago
Yea no.
Make a legit one or fuckoff.
Otherwise it goes in.
End of discussion.

>>172688095
no its not going in
end of discussion

>>172688084
no men of war doesn't try and be a simulator you retarded autist

Here is a legit poll.
If yes I will add it.
If no I will leave it out.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12649050

>>172688158
Good thing we put things to a legit vote around here.
You don't own this place and nethier do I. If you don't like how the vote trims out you have every opportunity to leave.

>>172688564
btfo HAHAHAAHAH

>>172687572
Yes, saitek was fantastic until mad catz bought them.

>>172688609
Protip I hate wargame but I'm not listening to some anon retard who says It shouldnt be in when I had the game in the original vote.
I really don't care if it's added or not. But we need to be fair.

HOW ABOUT right hear me out

We DONT add Wargame, or Men of War or all that shit, and keep it sims?

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46KB, 619x453px

>Warthunder has exceeded DCS on being the best sim
>Already have a HIND & an Apache
>Will soon get a huge list of modern aircraft

how did it comes to this guys??

>>172689068
haha

>>172689106
>haha
you didnt have to rub it in

>>172688943
Vote no on the poll.
That's about all you can do to convince me not to change the OP

this is the poll for adding any new games at all:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12646976/