/elyg/ - Elysium General

>>172481319
1st for killing trannies

>>172481096
>it's working out for tendies

tendies isn't clique

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Tfw you got all your pre-raid BiS gear from Dire Maul, so all there is left to do is farm gold or PvP, but the battlegrounds are filled with pre-mades.

BRM here I come!

>>172481971
>pre bis

More like BiS, literally missing a single piece from MC and I'm ready to wait for next patch. What a sad state of affairs.

>>172482412
yeah at this point in the server's life there isn't much of a difference between preraid bis and full bis. shit like that makes me laugh at people who poke fun at non 60s, as if they're missing out on anything. Someone could roll a brand new char right now and it'd still be on the same playing field for BWL/updated/good MC gear as someone who started on day 1

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>>172481962
say that to my face fucker and not online

>>172483031
>but who is this clique you're speaking of?

the clique consists of
>Manlett
>Madtii
>Infamily
>Valky
>Eyebrow

then there's the clique inner circle:
>Sylviee
>Bart
>Luthien
>Neksi
>Longview
>Sadem
>Babymetal
>Artie
>Captncold
>Onfire
>Melori
>Threepwood

and people who think they're clique or inner circle while in reality they aren't:
>Grude
>Puddi
>Dads
>Tendies
>Lumikaru
>Havetts

>>172483161
>cptncold on the clique inner circle

that dude is a literal who

>>172483161
t. Captncold

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>>172483298
Madtii brought him in for a few hours of voice chat erp

>>172483161
you forgot indi

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>need to turn in quests right outside the instance
>literally everyone leaves party after the final boss
>You will be teleported to the other fucking continent in 59 seconds.

>>172482687
Yes what faction do you play mostly?

>>172485102
Alliance, but I have no problem going Horde

>>172485308
Which faction has more players here?

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>>172483161
>mentioned in a list
another month or so i'll be clique AGAIN

>>172485361
>>172485308
you would be stupid to not roll horde by now
the only thing alliance has going for it in this server are BG premades and they won't even take you in until you catch up to the curve
not only does horde not have to deal with WPVP as much but it also has zeppelins, racials, easier access to dungeons etc

>>172485361
I think Alliance has better players

>>172485361
horde has more players but alliance are better at everything but 1v1 world pvp

>>172485308
Ok do you want to go Alliance and play now?

>>172485361
if you want to raid, Alliance
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/InstanceList.aspx?realm=Ely

>>172486303
>1v1 world pvp
No, Alliance is better at that. Too bad you never get to experience it.
Horde was purged out of DM yesterday without any trouble kek.

>>172486004
The constant horde ganking while leveling weeds out the undedicated

>>172486434
I guess I got baited

Alliance is the superior faction, the one advantage horde has is numbers, and because theyre terrible in bg's, theyre forced to farm honor in wpvp, which means places like blackrock mountain and dire maul are filled to the brim with horde desperately trying to farm honor

In terms of pve, horde are way behind alliance, they havent even touched a world boss yet

Alliance on full damage control. Yeah, join them if you like homosexuality being shoved down your eyes at every turn.

>>172486434
>>172487158
Where do we begin? I've never really had video game friends before...

Discord?

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>>172487871
Nice try Jiang

>>172487907
Yeah sure mine is zebra#7469

>>172488359
add me
Madti#7077

>>172488275
Name drops a literal who, nice try anon

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>>172488458
holy fuck this nigga

>>172488426
Ok sent

>>172487871
I'm indi and I support this message

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Someonw killed my bot so i camped him for an hour.
He rage whispered me threatening me about how he and his friends reported me for botting.
>People still think the staff gives a shit
Holy kek you all that actually think this is a good and well maintained server are completely delusional

>>172488657
>>172488426
kek

>>172488682
They do, good luck

>>172483161
>Havetts
What made you think, that I think I'm part of the clique or inner circle?

Finally made it on a list though, woo. : ^ )

>>172488696
Did I get tricked? I just want someone to play with

>>172488657
absolute madman

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>>172488794

>>172488930
You did get tricked, don't play with these fags, this "trick" is just the beginning. Expect no loot unless you like being the class leaders cuckold for an elongated period of time.

Wow this general says it all. Vanilla wow is dead and its just the same 15 people jerking each other off.

>>172488930
dunno if that was the original poster you were talking to but posting madti's discord is a meme ITT, a meme she doesn't like
you will never be clique like this

>>172483031
>screenshot taken at 24th of February
Meanwhile its a month later and still hes only level 31.

>>172483161
>namedropping
dieeeeeeeee

>>172489425
This general is dead. Aside from the MoH dick lovers posting THAT other dick lovers name, there is nothing to see here, unless you like super cool secret clubs that are high school tier, then do come back and join MoH today!

how do I get into the clique or atleast inner circle? I want gear

>>172489798
Thanks for the info.
Good to know retail community is better than vanillas now lmfao.

>>172490952
You don't wa well, first ask your self how low are you willing to go if you're not a man who finds other men attractive.

server is dead :(

>>172491225
>>172491127
>>172489798
samefag

>>172490952
Try joining a real guild

>>172488682
i think you're in denial anon

>>172491441
One (you). HAHAHHAHA

>>172491127
>>172491127
Avoid MoH and your experience will be untarnished. Funny bc their best luck is someone comes and carries them into raiding. Notice how none from MoH post raiding related, they ran out of indi's and glurf was a fag that had his fags turn on him. Sorry to namedrop but those were the previous to capitalize in leading the heap of social angst that is and once was

<nihilum>
<MoH>

>>172493086
you're retarded kid, moh raids every saturday

>>172493161
Oh right they can barely down rag and sometimes stop at majordomo. No one has full t1 and are losing members left and right bc of the clique meme

Anyone here horde and on zeth?
Maybe it's a longshot, just new and don't have friends.

>>172493947
you sound like a mad boy that is not part of the guild and just spouts shit
let me guess, a zet'cuck?

>>172494334
I'm really mad yeah. Or I'm here to save others from joining the mandate of heaven meme. Or I'm just mad, idk, I could also be indi, or I could be horde. Hmmm.

would anyone be so kind as to advertise on horde side trade chat the [Magicians staff of quality] I put up on the auction house?

My lowly level 2 is incapable.

It's worth 224 feral attack power and if you put a weight stone its worth 350.

>>172496192
sorry [magician staff of quality] was the name

Is there a setting in opium to color the messages and chatbox /whos of KoS players?

I pretty much just use the addon to keep track of same-faction faggots but it doesn't tell you much about who you're talking to unless use the who list or are in person with them.

Post your favorite leveling music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmkySNDX4dU

>>172499463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mbY-IGOaqQ

>>172493947
we've literally never stopped at majordomo

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>party leader jumping around in instances fixed last patch
>party marks disappearing almost immediately will be fixed next week

>>172500904
Yeah okay

>>172501587
Now if they can only fix bugged NPC pet aggro we'll finally be able to get dungeons done with no heartache.

>>172501875
Yeah okay

>>172502062
Yeah okay

>some butthurt mdps got wizard oil removed

REEEEEE

>make my first female character after leveling 6 males
>literally my first two WPVP encounters are overleveled guy /hugging me and leaving me alone instead of ganking me like I'm used to
HOLY SHIT
IT'S THE ULTIMATE RACIAL BONUS

>>172502834
>roll a paladin
>everyone except groups of 3+ people ignore me because nobody wants to have a 5 minute long fight with me

Feels good to be meatgod

>>172503086
>roll warrior
>some people leave me alone because they feel too sorry for me
g-gottem

>>172488930
Blog update, I didn't find anyone from this thread to play with but I found a group of four random people who started the same time as me and we got up to lvl 8 before everyone wanted to go to sleep.

Hopefully it's always this easy to meet people to play with

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what did he mean by this?

>>172504301
That you both, and apparently the whole game, are 14 year old underage fags and need to get banned.

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>>172504682
wow rude

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>>172504301

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>>172505349

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>kill faggot warlock with a single frostshock while he is fighting a mob
>lol over him
>paladin 4 levels above me appears out of no where to fight me
>have to pop a potion, but whip his ass
>he has to bubble and heal
>i run away and bandage and set up totems
>he comes to fight again
>mfw the triple windury crit is just right
> beat his ass again and he has to run away

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What did he mean by this?

>>172506275
was just a prank brah

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>GRIZZLY in charge of anything

>>172504301
Old pic but I kek every time. Top shitposter on the server desu

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>>172508150
>tfw

Will there be a zeth/ely server merge?

>>172508637
Yes, 6 months from now.

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>>172499463

>>172499463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvW-QTiZLQ0

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good times in STV

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> do first boss farm of DM north with party of 3
>3 consecutive drops that me and a shaman needed, the wrists and cloak for me (mage) being BiS
> also 1 ring that upgraded his from fucking SFK on the fourth
> Only 1 out of the 5 drops were vendor trash

Fucking wew fucking lad what tremendous luck

Question on critical hit% both spell and melee. What's the most you can max either?

I'm at 15% now for spell crit but not even fully bis. I'm starting to understand why Blizzard did some of the changes they did in TBC with resilience's anti-crit. With people well geared battles start being just 1 shot contests and they last seconds rather than a minute or two like they should, at least in wpvp.

At lower levels 1v1s in wpvp and bgs were a lot more fun.

>>172511506
The constant turnover of who controls the camp is easily one of the most fun wpvp areas in the game atm.

>>172510292
Good taste

>>172502182
Wait really fuck I was going to get some before raid :(

Proofs??????

>run dungeon that has an item you could really use
>it doesn't drop

So do I just keep running it hoping to get that one item then?

Why do you spergs play on elysium when alex and co. have so thoroughly blown them the fuck out?

>>172513104
Or just give up and get a boe thing for that slot instead

That's what I did with my wand and scholo, shit never drops do i coughed up the gold for the 80g one freezing shard

But yes it takes a couple tries, it's not with re running instances at levels below like 40-45 though unless you're a warrior because the items get replaced fairly quickly. Especially so if you're a clothie or Hunter leveling gear barely matters.

>>172513650

The wand from Shoni's quest is good enough, I don't feel like going to the very last boss hoping to get it to drop. The Gravestone Scepter is much better and I'll get it in a few levels anyway.

I'm a priest, so finding a group isn't too hard, and wands are super important.

>>172513104
Yes. Don't fall for the "run the dungeon once and leave" meme unless you seriously care about racing to 60 in a game with no endgame content.

If you have/are a tank, or at least a healer, try to form a group for doing multiple runs. If it's something near the start of the dungeon, like corpsemaker, try to start a farm run.

>>172483161
So far I killed

the clique consists of
>Manlett check
>Madtii check
>Infamily
>Valky
>Eyebrow

then there's the clique inner circle:
>Sylviee
>Bart check
>Luthien
>Neksi check
>Longview
>Sadem
>Babymetal bubbled away
>Artie
>Captncold
>Onfire
>Melori
>Threepwood

and people who think they're clique or inner circle while in reality they aren't:
>Grude
>Puddi
>Dads check
>Tendies
>Lumikaru check
>Havetts

Rest is literal whos.

I wish people did farm runs of that 10 slot bag in WC.

The bitch is only like 2 minutes into the dungeon but no one gives a shit about bag space

>>172483161

Is the Horde side this cringeworthy and autistic?

>>172486303
>everything but 1v1 world pvp

Yeah because Horde never 1v1 unless they're 10 levels higher than you

you retards are still playing on this server? LOL... wow....

>>172514308
No there is no /vg/ guild and all trannies would get kicked out.

>>172513761
Ah that'd be the situation outside of a warrior then.

Idk wand leveling sounds boring as hell to me anyways lol

>>172514891

It's lame, you just PW:S, Mind Blast, SW:P, and then wand it to death. Wands are the most important piece of gear.

>>172514501
nod an argumend

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>>172515126
Elemental shaman leveling is the most fun I've had so far, as far as diversity in gameplay it's only surpassed by druids.

Every other class there's 1 or 2 optimal ways to down a mob and anything else takes forever. Like doing fire as mage is just ridiculous and there's basically 0 utility in arcane spells when leveling. I force arcane spells now I'm max level when I kill stuff just to switch it up, and since I have oodles of random + arcane spell damage lel.

Actually now that I've written that, rogue leveling might actually be most diverse. I've never really wrapped my head around combo points, shit was too weird for me. Warrior also can be diverse so maybe I'm slighting melee classes.

is aq out in anath or what

>>172515871
Just around the corner :)

>mage is aoe farming
>tag all the mobs hes pulling together
>pull fresh mobs into the blizzard

>>172515830

All you do is keep S&D up, and use CP on Eviscerate otherwise. Energy is a bit of a limiter and you can't swap targets or you lose your CP.

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>>172516085
> sheep mobs someone is attacking until they die
> tag someone's mob with fire blast while they are casting so they pull aggro but don't get the mob
> follow around a lowbie and constantly slow them but don't kill them jk not mean enough to do that

Tell me more trolling stories anons. Anyone summon an infernal in starting areas yet? That single action is whats driving me to level a Warlock.

>>172516751
summoning an infernal in starting areas will get you banned

>>172516751
roll hunter

follow lowbies around from as far as possible

keep hunters mark on them

the leveling specs in that image are so bad holy shit what kind of a retard made that

>>172513908
>puddi
>lumi
>not clique
>all those literal whos in inner circle

I wonder who could be behind this post...

>>172518492
They are terrible, but no one cares enough to replace them.

Who the fuck are these lumi puddi matdi and why do people talk about them all the time?

>>172483161
>tfw enough of a literal who to never get mentioned

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odd lock
even paladin

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>>172520332
odd mage
even priest

>>172487349
True
T. Horde

I missed the openings and I have a few questions. So Zeth'Kur is the old Nostalrius PvE realm, and Elysium is the PvP, and the rest of the two are just old servers, right? How's Anathema? Other than the progression timeline, it looks like a comfy place with that ~2k population.

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>>172520332
>>172520528
odd odd
even even

>>172487349
thats true. and whats more a lot of people dont even give a single fuck about competing with alliance guilds.

>>172487349
why is this?

>>172520772
Because all PvE babbies roll alliance. That's just how it is.

>>172520759
>thefoxandthegrapes.jpg

>>172520772
Paladins. PvE becomes a joke when you have paladins.

>>172483161
>they think I'm a clique
Lmaoing
crying

Can I use a mouse macro to camp rare recipes?
They can't track mouse clicks right?

>>172520803
>get dominated in BGs
>get domimated in world bossed where people have to pvp
>pve babbies
Dumb horde idiot
>>172520772
Most of the kids who want to be grim/vurtne roll horde, they have little to none cooperation.

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[P] [Marboth]: hide helm please

>>172521114
>PvE and PvP become a joke when you have paladins.
Fixed

>>172520803
>PvE babbies roll alliance
>Horde dindus are the ones that gank and camp farming areas and kill lowbies more than alliance

wew

>>172521671
>m-muh paladins

>paladins just wear dresses, spam blessings and can't hurt anything in pvp

is this a meme? i want to make a pally but endgame seems monotonous. i'm fine with healing in pve but id like a little variety in my pvp

also i leveled a warrior on old nost and it was hell to do solo, so i want something a little more forgiving

>>172522079
You're literally unkillable in a pvp group setting but you're not going to be able to kill anything.

>>172522079
>paladins wear dresses
Pre BiS for Paladin is a mixture of all the gear types, once you have T1/2 you don't need to wear anything but plate.
>spam blessings
This is something you do in raids as the blessings are quite useful. You also heal.
>can't hurt anything in pvp
You're a defensive support that has potential to do some decent burst once in a while and a steady amount of minimal damage. However this is offset by you being the most durable thing in the game. You can also go Ret when you're really geared and try your luck with Seal of Casino

>>172522179

This translates horribly over to wpvp. Wouldn't you rather be a Warlock where you're almost as unkillable but can shit on poeple? Or a Mage too?

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>>172521671
>WAHHH WAAAHHH PALADINS R OP! WAAAH!!

Maybe you should cast Will of the Forsaken to break your fear of Paladins.

>>172522345
not him but how so? 1on1 you can attrition kill almost anything or they give up and walk away, 2v1 you should be able to hold out long enough for someone to come help.

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>>172522473
>paladins can outlast anything in pvp

anon...

>tfw you find out salty dogs has a small secret clique

Nothing is sacred

>>172522473
>1on1 you can attrition kill almost anything
You suck ass against any ranged class or any class with interrupts/counterspells as all your spells are Holy

If people decide to stand and fight you instead of kiting you though, yeah. ijimodo

>>172520191
Lumi is some autist in his 30s and the druid class leader. Made one or two druids leave already. Doesn't like attention.
Puddi is a trap and quits the guild every 2 weeks. Fights with other traps. Loves attention.
Madti is some insane girl from Germany. Very nice one day, better don't talk to the next day. Doesn't like attention.
They all play in MoH, don't join if you want to avoid autism. If you see a post about them filter it. That's all you need to know.

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1,4,7 - Elysium
2,5,8 - Anathema
3,6,9 - Zethkur
0 - No WoW

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>>172523605

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keep the chink population down folks

>>172523687
#OSoC...

>>172513908
t. k2

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>spider
Quality WoW.

>>172524339
are you assuming his species?

>>172524339
If he wants to identify as a spider who are you to stop him?

>>172493086
THIS WITHOUT INDI THE GUILD IS LITERAL GARBAGE

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Reminder that paladins are a joke in 1v1 pvp. You literally pose no more threat than a hunter pet.
http://www.webm.land/w/TTHZ/

>>172525341
>>172493086
>MoH doing perfectly well in memeMC
>MoH farming instances for prebis in slot gear all the time
>MoH running a somewhat successful pvp premade every evening
>People come to raids repaired and with consumables
>Everyone has fun even when the server shits itself
>LITERAL GARBAGE AVOID MOH

>>172524624
>>172524957
I would agree with you, but it's a Vanilla server, not current year WoW server. Such things were not invented yet back in 2004-6.

>>172525951
>the anti indi damage control begins

>>172525951
>Everyone has fun
yeah samfu and pesudo has so much fun they quit

>>172526174
And nothing of value was lost.

>>172526194
this
>supposed tranny guild actually drives away trannies
Really gets the noggin joggin

>>172526174
but it is literally impossible to keep 40+ people all happy at the same time

>>172526174
samfu and pouncy leaving was a positive for the guild lmao

>>172526295
> drives away trannies
we don't drive away people becasue of their sex you sperg, samfu and sudo didn't like how the guild/loot was being given so they quit.
sex had nothing to do with past the fact they all had bad blood with the other people of deviant habbits.

>>172526352
It's not impossible just use dkp and people can't sperg about MUH LOOT.
t. someone who has been in non shit raiding guilds

>>172526412
>we don't drive away people becasue of their sex
never said that in my post famalam

>>172526526
>supposed tranny guild actually drives away trannies
you implied it you mongoloid,

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>>172526352
>mfw

>>172526512
>dkp
>people can't sperg about loot
wew lad

>>172526597
Nowhere in my post did I imply that it was solely based on the fact that they were trannies
Educate yourself, retard

>>172526667
You seem to have a very poor understanding of English, but literally mentioned them being trannies and said moh drives away trannies, not drives away people who spergs about loot. I can't tell if you really don't know how to write sentences or if you're just pretending to be retarded.

>>172526512
>dkp
>good guild

>>172526605
this was my favourite moment. rip Me

>>172526752
fuck off pouncy

>>172526770
>implying literally 100's of great guilds haven't used dkp
what did he mean by this?

>>172526619
you can't though, it's easy to create some pretend clique and say THEY STEAL ALL MUH LOOT.
dkp makes corruption much more difficult, slap on a point cap and use EPGP or whatever and literally people even game the system.

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>>172526818
*activates clique powers*
*steals mageblade*
*quits the server*
*lmaos behind his back*
he was a good friend

>>172526938
lmao so I'm pouncy because I can speak English?
fuck off idiot don't write bullshit about the guild or if you can't write don't bother writing anything at all.

>>172527012
>you can't though
>top dps rogue skips one raid
>other rogues and warriors blew some of their dkp on stuff here and there
>vis'kag goes to garbage warrior who generally is there all the time and provides nothing of value
dkp is a shit system, all it's mutations are shit too. rotating loot council is the only way to assure shit works.

>>172527094
>found out
>immediately starts sperging
sure you're not

>>172527171
>>172527171
>correct a random anon on something he posted misleading about the guild
>NO I AM SMART YOU ARE POUNCY
>kek at retardation
>SEE YOU ARE LAUGHING AT ME POUNCY COMFIRMED
okay tinfoil retard.

Why does the resurrection timer even exist?

>>172527271
>still sperging
try phoning home for some better posts lad

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Why were Mana Oils removed on Elysium? Is this some kind of sick joke? What gives?

>>172527409
>tinfoil hat intensifies

>>172527479
>no proof intensifies

>>172527012
Great nations used bows and spears ages ago, doesnt mean its good now.

>>172527501
>tinfoil hat retard talking about proof
wew irony reaching new levels of kek

>>172527592
ok pouncy I know you're trying real hard to fit in but this isn't how you do it

>>172527160
if he's got enough points to get viskag, assuming you aren't and you shouldn't let people bid for shit for like 1 dkp.
then he's putting in the work to get the points and saved them, which means he isn't wiping the raid, he's showing up on time or early with buffs, he could helping people farm consumables. a good dkp system gives points to people who perform well aswell but honestly if he's got the points and gets the item he's put in the work for it.

>>172527505
I get the analogy but I think it's a bit silly trying to compare distribution systems to the invention of guns.
LC's are more easily abused than dkp
Dkp is hard to setup but very much harder to abuse.
point in the anon was wrong about good guilds not using dkp, they did, they have, they are.

>>172527737
>reminder someone random sperg started calling me an exguildie to cover up the fact he can't type proper sentences.
I'm trying to think who in the guild has an ego this fragile.

>>172527837
>he's putting in the work
>just being there for all raids is putting in the work
t. auto shotting afk hunter

>+9 int to weapon
>90g
How in the fuck

>>172527986
if all your hunters do that and they all get the same dkp, then it really wouldn't matter who you funnel gear into.
like i said before just reward people for playing well, turning up with consumables.
if all your hunters turn up early with consumables and still just afk autoshoot then well shit sounds like you've got a bigger problem then loot distribution.

>>172527954
>still no proof
all you have to do is prove you're not pouncy

>>172527452
>Patch 1.7.0 (patch date:2005-09-22): Added.
>Patch 1.8.0 (patch date:2005-10-10): Added.

>>172528141
burden of proof is on the accuser you retard.
honestly your tinfoil autism really is weird are you seriously in MoH?
i think someone like you would just stick out.

Zeth Kur sub 1K online players

LOL

Vanilla meme servers

>>172528225
so you are pouncy
alright thanks for the confirmation

>>172528140
>have reliable players who perform well in their role
>said player(s) skip one or two raids due to real life issues
>their bis should go to a scrub just because he was there
ok.

>>172528395
whatever you say based retard,
don't write silly shit about the guild
and don't get so ass-blasted when people tell you to stop next time.

>>172528474
>people
literally one person
you, a buttbothered reject, attempting to defend two useless ex-guildies (one of which is you I rightfully presume)

>>172527837
Thats the thing.
What youre saying is dkp is only good if you have it under alot of control, in that case LC is way better.
Another thing is, if you can reward/punish with dkp, you can as easily abuse it.

Another thing is, you cant make up cliques to control dkp if youre using LC.

>>172528619
>You can't make up cliques to control dkp
>Oh sorry no spots for you tonight, just wait outside
>You'll get 50% dkp!

>>172528448
you seem to be missing the point a bit, if people have a lot of points it's becasue they're are reliable, otherwise they shouldn't have a lot of points.

if everyone is getting points for attendance, and turning up early, and bring consumables and performing their roles well, and they all have the same points it means they're all doing their jobs.
if your star and apparently in your world ONLY reliable raider missses two raids, and this guy who has a similar point count to him has turned up to more raids than him and bids on it because your star raider missed a raid and he was there when it dropped and or has more points because he's put in more work?
how can you still call him a scrub?
it's distinctions on effort like this that really make LC tenuous, how man people do you think are just fodder, despite doing the same as everyone else?

>>172528723
??
Im against dkp u dumb.

>>172513908
Get on my level
>Manlett check
>Madtii check
>Infamily check
>Valky
>Eyebrow check

then there's the clique inner circle:
>Sylviee check
>Bart check
>Luthien check
>Neksi check
>Longview
>Sadem check
>Babymetal check
>Artie check
>Captncold check
>Onfire check
>Melori check
>Threepwood check

and people who think they're clique or inner circle while in reality they aren't:
>Grude
>Puddi check
>Dads check
>Tendies
>Lumikaru check
>Havetts fucking dwarf shadowpriests op op op

>>172528771
>how can you still call him a scrub?
BECAUSE HE PERFORMS POORLY
Raids are not about attendance, it's not about getting 40 (or 25 later) warm bodies to just fill it. People should be pulling their weight. If they aren't, like our exemplary warrior who does meme dps and has no tanking gear to OT when needed, then gearing them up is low priority.

>>172528873
You can't kill me, I'm a Paladin.

t. Babymetal

>>172482412
>5/8 tier one
>use it for bankstanding

Incredible.

>>172528619
>What youre saying is dkp is only good if you have it under alot of control, in that case LC is way better.
Dkp is a harder system to use yes, LC is only way better if you aren't willing to put in the work for a system where people can't claim corruption as easily.

>Another thing is, if you can reward/punish with dkp, you can as easily abuse it.
No all you need to do is have clear rules on how dkp is given out if someone breaks those rules then corruption isn't even a question its obvious.
LC corruption is much easier to do and get away with then dkp manipulation.

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>>172528929
Really now?

>>172528596
> rightfully presume
the tinfoil hat is cutting off circulation to your head.
I'm not whatever sperg you name me to be to try and cover the fact up you wrote bullshit about how the guild operates and were called out for it.
you autiscally spazz out about proof but have none, you are pretty pathetic really.

>>172528976
>LC corruption is much easier to do and get away with then dkp manipulation.
>Fill up the raid with people you like
>Tell people you don't like they get the bench tonight
>Stack people you like with DKP this way
>Lmao fair system corruption is near impossible
?

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>be me, pouncy
>be doing bgs in <Praise> discord on my laptop
>post in discord about how i get into bgs because im a pretty princess
>babymetal talks trash about me in moh
>check thread
>people calling me a tranny everywhere

At this point I'm so good at baiting drama I don't even have to be present to make it happen. ubelievable, I never thought I'd be skilled at something in life, but I think I've found my true calling.

Later elyg

>>172529008
>diremaul floor tiles

>>172529065
shh

>>172529085
that isn't something to be proud of

>>172529095
you dont get that much honor unless it's a 1v1 though

>>172529095
Nothing wrong with that.

>>172528902
that's the point dweeb he isn't performing poorly.
and yeah raids are about attendance people with higher attendance have higher priority but that's not what you should be given points on solely and it isn't you seem to think this random member turns up does nothing and gets rewarded but its not anything like that.
and yes attending every raid means you're reliable it means you'll turn up and if this mysterious player you hate really is fucking up his dkp should be getting -.

>>172529074
>Lmao fair system corruption is near impossible
who are you quoting.
I said it's much more apparent.

>>172529339
>he isn't performing poorly by doing shit dps and never off tanking
>raids are about attendance
wew.

>>172529124
Autistic sperg btfo >>172529085
try not to abuse whoever takes care off you while you wash off the rage you must feel for being illiterate and retarded.

>>172529215

>Horde
>1v1

does not compute

>>172529401
>still missing the point of the point system
>giving people with low attendance higher priority.
WEW

>>172529517
>be #1 dps/healer
>skip one raid
>your bis now belongs to the bottom feeding shitter because LMAO ATTENDANCE
ok.

Which gathering professions earns the most cash? Herbalism, Mining or Skinning? How's the economy?

>>172529515
It was a 1v1 though, and i killed him 3-4 times after that as well, question is did he throw a hissy fit in /g after i finished farming him or were emotes he made enough to sate his mental condition?

>>172529562
you realize you are making the most unlikely edge cases ever right,
so everyone else in your entire guild except for 1 or 2 people is trash?
and somehow despite people being rewarded for how much effort they put in and how well they do and attendance, the people who put in the lowest effort always have the highest points through attendance alone?
because you don't have a 2nd best or 3rd best, you have top dps and shitters. just 5 or so people worth giving gear too and 35 leeches.
you either belong to the worst guild to ever raid or live in some fairy tale land.

>>172529773
>most unlikely cases ever
>literally happened to my brother in wotlk
>literally happened to several of my friends from other guilds throughout the expansions
all right.

@Pouncy Ok seriously though no memes, Pouncy. I shouldn't have promised you choker and then changed my mind on the basis of "your raid attitude is poor". I get that. I fucked up. I'm serious.

But I stand by my choice. Your raiding attitude was terrible, you reacted to things like a baby. You wouldn't buff people, you would instigate things on disord with puddi. You blocked Samfu on voice. The fact was I couldn't trust you with one of the most powerful items in the game for healers.

I was hoping you wouldn't overreact about it. But you did. This kind of proved my point your attitude was all wrong. I understand why you reacted the way you did however, as I somewhat mislead you to believe you were going to get the item.

Regardless its a fucking meme item, I have accepted I dealt with you in the slightly wrong way - can we all just move past it and accept that I'm not some ninjalooting evil guy?(edited)

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Ok seriously though no memes, Pouncy. I shouldn't have promised you choker and then changed my mind on the basis of "your raid attitude is poor". I get that. I fucked up. I'm serious.

But I stand by my choice. Your raiding attitude was terrible, you reacted to things like a baby. You wouldn't buff people, you would instigate things on discord with puddi. You blocked Samfu on voice. The fact was I couldn't trust you with one of the most powerful items in the game for healers.

I was hoping you wouldn't overreact about it. But you did. This kind of proved my point your attitude was all wrong. I understand why you reacted the way you did however, as I somewhat mislead you to believe you were going to get the item.

Regardless its a fucking meme item, I have accepted I dealt with you in the slightly wrong way - can we all just move past it and accept that I'm not some ninja-looting evil guy? (edited)

>>172529860
no it didn't its laughable, that you could imagine everyone but yourself in your guild doesn't deserve loot, either they agreed to a shit system that wasn't properly set up their fault or they just couldn't handle the fact they don't get all the loot.

Ok seriously though no memes, Pouncy. I shouldn't have promised you choker and then changed my mind on the basis of "your raid attitude is poor". I get that. I fucked up. I'm serious.

But I stand by my choice. Your raiding attitude was terrible, you reacted to things like a baby. You wouldn't buff people, you would instigate things on disord with puddi. You blocked Samfu on voice. The fact was I couldn't trust you with one of the most powerful items in the game for healers.

I was hoping you wouldn't overreact about it. But you did. This kind of proved my point your attitude was all wrong. I understand why you reacted the way you did however, as I somewhat mislead you to believe you were going to get the item.

Regardless its a fucking meme item, I have accepted I dealt with you in the slightly wrong way - can we all just move past it and accept that I'm not some ninjalooting evil guy?

>>172529860
> literally happened to my brother in wotlk
Why would you raid with a fucking dkp and not /roll in wotlk?

>>172528873
literal who?

>>172529773
are you a retard or something? attendance is meaningless if the shitter that's 100% always there doesn't even pull his weight.
why the fuck should bis weapons and other sought after items go to someone who can't even play his class correctly? why should actually good and reliable players lose on those just because they had to skip a raid or two?
wow that 120 dps warrior is such an asset, he's always there for the raids! he should get deathbringer over the warrior who constantly off tanks, tops the meters but had to go visit his parents one weekend!

>>172530050
>are you a retard or something? attendance is meaningless if the shitter that's 100% always there doesn't even pull his weight.
no but im starting to think you might be, didn't you read the part where i listed how unlikely it should be for someone to be the top dog on attendance points alone?
also yeah attendance IS important.
> why should actually good and reliable players lose on those just because they had to skip a raid or two?
because they aren't reliable if they skip a raid or two, if someone over takes you in points its because he put in more work than you or you spent your points on something else.
this is pretty basic you guys have to use edgecase where you have one good player who has to visit his sick uncle in china so he can't play, and then the dps that molests children and abuses his wife is literally the only thing left if your guild

>the basis of "your raid attitude is poor"
But you told me it was because it would be a better item for you? and because the puddi drama?


>somewhat mislead you to believe you were going to get the item.
kek, promising it twice = somewhat misleading.

> You wouldn't buff people
this has never been proven to be ridiculously false before.

really gtg now tho cya

>>172530307
>> You wouldn't buff people
>this has never been proven to be ridiculously false before.
> You wouldn't buff people
this has never been proven to be ridiculously false before.
what did he mean by this

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>>172529930
>>172529940
>>172529950
>>172530206
>BABYMETAL TALKING ABOUT ATTITUDE
>BABYMETAL NOT GIVING PEOPLE CHANCES TO IMPROVE THEIR ATTITUE
>BABYMETAL THE IRONY SO STRONG I CAN TASTE IT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hcSpSC8T0M

>>172530228
>he put in more work
>by being garbage playing his class
ok

>>172530368
It's a stupid claim, not buffing someone is the most idiotic way to get back at someone.

>>172529943
>no it didn't!
ok.

>>172530492
He attended 2 more raids than you, didn't get minus dkp in those raids, he may not be as good as you but doesn't mean he hasn't been working for the guild.
I'm sorry your sick uncle needs you to see him, but if you can't stand the idea of anyone getting loot despite playing earning the points and saving them up, you sound like an upset loot whore. maybe just maybe the people who make up your guild who aren't you aren't scum?
if you really work in a guild where you think no one else is entitled to loot then shit man I'm sorry that must suck.

>>172530228
>how unlikely it should be for someone to be the top dog on attendance points alone?
>top dog saved DKP for [item]
>shitter saved DKP for [item]
>top dog had to skip a raid because of rl issues
>next raid [item] drops
>top dog should lose it to the shitter now because lmao dkp
>this is somehow an unlikely scenario

>>172530629
The point is that giving BiS based on meme attendance instead of performance is retarded especially when you know the better player is reliable and simply had to skip a raid or two.
But ok, hand out gear to shit tier players because they are always there instead of rewarding merit.

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>>172530228

>getting high quality hps
>bringing consumes
>full prebis
>high attendance
>Putting in extra work to make up for his inexperience.
>being called "top dog" by totally reliable and trustworthy cl.
>joins tryhard guild and still gets high hps.

w-wow, I'm so bad guys.

>>172530643
if a shitter hasn't gotten his dkp minused for fucking up the raid, and does everything the top dog does with the only exception being he isn't top dog.
then he's not a shitter, he's just not top dog.
you guys must be imagining hardcore dps gaps to justify this.

>>172530730
>The point is that giving BiS based on meme attendance instead of performance is retarded especially when you know the better player is reliable and simply had to skip a raid or two.
But ok, hand out gear to shit tier players because they are always there instead of rewarding merit.
Name a dkp system that's literally only based on attendance, because I've not fucking clue why you keep insinuating the one were talking about is.
Attendance is important no matter what distribution system you use.

>>172530869
>follow tactics
>be shit at healing/dpsing
>lmao he's just not the top dog! he's doing everything the top dog does except for the dps/healing!
just wow.

>>172530830
>doesn't refresh buffs out of laziness or spite
>argues with other guild members mid raid

yeah nah lol

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>>172530830

>>172531029
Sorry, love drama too much. That was in context of Puddi sperging out in moh general.

>>172531116
T-t-this i-i-is out of context!!!!
it n-n-not correct!! I SWEAR!!

>>172530869
>Player A has less DKP because he missed a raid but uses his gear to the fullest
>Player B has more DKP because he's always there but only does 50% of the dps he should be with his gear
>Therefore an item that increases dps a lot should go to Player B because he'll use it better and it totally won't be a waste
Truly the best system.

>>172527452
??

I still have them in my enchanting tab?

People who shit on DKP haven't actually ever been in a guild that uses a proper DKP system. DKP is literally the fairest system available because it works on pure numbers and there's multiple different systems that suit everyone's needs. Loot council maybe works on retail because every fucking boss drops lots of loot. In vanilla you have 2-3 loots a boss for 40 fucking people and using roll or loot council only will lead to varying levels of salt from everyone.

If someone isn't pulling their weight in a raid how about you gkick him you fucking retards?

>>172531410
"spell not available"

>>172531283
Honestly why haven't you kicked this absolutely shit poor excuse of a dps child molester from your guild yet at this point? If you're still stringing him along then it's obvious you value his presence and he should be allowed just as much prio as the top dog with a sick uncle.

>>172531658
But he has perfect attendance and a lot of dkp, why would you kick such an exemplary player?

>>172531283
kick player B for doing 50% dmg, problem solved

DKP bulls wins again!

>>172531786
and then have the 50% dmg retard complain about all his dkp going to waste because he got kicked, creating a massive argument over what is better to use when raiding

>>172531778
I don't know, I don't give a fuck about some imaginary fringe situations. Every single guild I played in that used DKP had the least drama about loot and every single one that had loot council or anything that was decided by people in the guild was a complete fucking disaster because most people playing these games are spergs and when even regular people can't put aside their biases in real world situations what do you expect of bunch of autistic neets?

>>172531894
Every guild I played in used LC and had 0 drama whatsoever.

>>172530941
literally this is the same edgecase where you are playing with someone who never makes any mistakes, knows total raid knowledge, comes early, has his prebis.
is always lagging behind top performers becuase of this gap in performance, and it'd had to be a big fucking gap. but everyone whose is good in your raid is sick visiting a sick uncle, so you get reserves and in two raids gets more points and gets a great item.
its just to far fetched

1. how big is this meme gap you keep brining up it must be fucking massive
2. just teach him how to play from the start, nothing in vanilla is hard to master in raiding but tanking.

>>172531283
player B is never going to get any loot from the LC, why are you stringing him along.
oh wait its because player B literally doesn't exist. it because if player B existed he'd get his dkp minused for fucking up raids

>>172531930
I borrow my sister's t-shirts sometimes.

>>172531956
I can guarantee you, you did not raid in vanilla or you're talking out of your ass.

>>172532031

> how can you not kill yourself

>>172532005
>player B is never going to get any loot from the LC
He will after more valuable players get their stuff. It's simple really. If he doesn't like the system he can gquit, that's if he doesn't get benched and eventually gkicked for being shit.

>>172532116
In vanilla we switched to LC in AQ and it stayed this way all the way till ICC when the guild dissolved.
Stay mad.

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>>172529592
Pls respond. I see less herbs in the AH than leather, but I'm not sure if it's because they are wanted that much and sell fast or because of the opposite.

>>172532298
No. She just has plenty of Star Wars and anime t-shirts which look good when stretched on my ottermode torso.

>fear worm
>it skitters 60 feet away

>>172532252
shut the fuck up lumifaggot

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How do I join Mandate of Heaven?

>>172531778
If that were the guild master's and officer's logic you'd have just as much if not more trouble in LC than DKP.

>>172532845
/w anyone

>>172532710
now try applying it to a weapon

>>172532845
/w manlett now

How many of all these posts do you guys think is Gropy orbiting pouncy?

I think he even writes the bad posts desu to have something to reply to.

How long does it take to get exalted with defilers? would I make it in a AB weekend

>Being in a cuck council guild

LMAOing @ your life kid

>>172533526
>letting a druid take drakefang talisman because he saved up enough dkp

>>172533684
If he wants to spend all his DKP on that then sounds pretty fair to me desu. Way more fair than giving all loot to literal trannies.

>>172533684
He wouldn't be allowed to spend on that because it's not his spec because you have competent guild leadership that doesn't bring feral druids, unlike a certain LC guild I know of.

>>172533798
>i'll let a useless feral druid, take literal bis for 3 other classes

>>172533937
Yeah sure. Spending literally all his DKP he earned by attending raids a lot. How is it any worse than "Oh I'm giving literal BiS to all my favorite trannies over all you others lel"

>>172533220
you made me waste one charge, good job

>>172534119
>"Oh I'm giving literal BiS to all my favorite trannies over all you others lel"
i don't know what you are referring to here, because it has never happened

>>172534313
AND CHOCKER GOES TO MADTII

>>172533937
>i'll let a useless feral druid
Your guild leadership let him play that spec and attend enough raids with it that its evident they value the druid and don't consider him useless. Your fault for being in said guild, not the fault of DKP.

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>>172534313
>NEVER

>>172534525
>meme item, that is now useless
nice try

>>172534653
>one of the most powerful items in the game for healers.
i think babymetal knows a little bit more about healer bis than you do kid, that is why he took it after all.

>>172534781
>most powerful
hey fuckward, its not the most powerful if its useless within the next 3 weeks of when you got it

>>172534879
okay pouncy so why did you quit after he got it?

>>172534921
>what is context
look up at the other posts

>>172534983
ok pouncy

>>172514578
There's Salty Dogs I think

>>172534653
Why would you let healers roll on it in the first place?

>>172534983
>read literally tranny drama
no thanks pouncy

How much do Warriors do stance dancing and shit? I want to play a viable DPS paladin and warrior seems like the best bet.

>>172534879
LMAO pouncy can't understand
>then
and
>now
baby was right it was BIS

>>172533684
I can only think in extremes: the post.

No sensible DKP system doesn't have some priorities to exactly prevent what you just posted.

>>172534653
um, it's still bis for healers but ok

Why are warlocks always the most fucked classes on private servers when it comes to spell and pet mechanics working?

>>172535616
fuck you nigger hunter pets LITERALLY RAN AWAY WITH FULL LOYALTY AT SOME POINT

Can you open up lock
boxes via trade yet?

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There was a mock church service yesterday at stormwind cathedral.
They were 100% serious.

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>>172535590

>>172534301
Now try it out on a mob and see if it actually works

>>172528448
>>172528448
>>172528448
(you)

>>172535590
>>172535892
silence...

>>172535892
>feral druid says he's top dps from his old guild
>he's also the guild master and druid class leader
>maintank and off healer
sounds like he's was in a shit guild if he's top 5 dps as feralcat, that he's corrupt.
doesn't matter either way because he doesn't mention if he uses dkp or LC and he's their top player. literally.

>>172531930
yes but half of them gquit

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>>172535905

>>172531930
IS SHE(HE) IN MOH?
IL JOIN RIGHT FUCKING NOW

what's better for shaman lvling, 1h+shield or 2h?

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So when is the actually good and uncorrupted server going online? Don't feel like wasting my time with chinks

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>Hit 60
>Alliance is cucked af in bg

I fell for the horde cannot PVP meme

>>172538158
FAST AS FUCK 1H and shield untill WF
THEN
SLOW AS FUCK 2H

>>172538483
>b-but alliance is good at bgs
We literally told you over and over again, yet you fell for premade meme. Just face it you're never getting to r12 and r10 would take 2 good months of 24/7 grinding. Also have fun getting ganked 24/7 on your way to DM/UBRS/MC.

>>172538483
to 80% of alliances best players are doing BG.
20% of alliances shittiest are doing pugs.

100% of horde are doing pugs

alliance premades > horde > alliance pugs

that's how it always was.

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How good is MH: Ironfoe OH: Thrash blade?

>>172539908
It's good, Bart.

>>172536965
I raided with him, he was turbo fucking autist, our resto druid squad was laughing at him entire raid, sufice to say he did less than most of our afk dps, last I remember he joined LOST where all the castoff shitters of Anathema join

>>172539970
wouldn't it be better to just use mirahs or felstriker?

>>172540197
Do you have felstriker?

>>172540304
do you have mirah's song?

>>172540197
Mirah's is 2fast because Elysium Flurry is speshul.