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NEW EXPANSION IN A FEW HOURS!!!

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/016ysnkhenaxkud/sv+uncensor+1.4.61.zip

All-in-one Android undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g3wprejd9foygnr/v1461+Folders+a+and+v.zip

Tools for deckbuilding and card checking
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
http://sv.bagoum.com

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

Old Thread >>172434815
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Can you spot the lethal?
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Luna will always be the best girl!
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where's new undub file ?
someone upload that shit
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>>172452609
RIP
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What would you change? I'm thinking this is the general shape of Ramp Dragon in ToG.
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>>172453042
I can't into math, sorry.
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>>172453042
not enough pp for enhanced eyfa

just concede desu
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>>172453042
>le thinkingman craft they said
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>>172453042
dance of death his face
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>>172453042
Aw geez boss I dunno this is a tough one
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>>172453042
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>>172453042
Hit shadow reaper, play eyfa, emote, opponent concedes.
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>>172453168
>class with cool dragons
>has to play neutral cards only

suffering
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Right, I almost forgot. It seems like SFV collab is going to be online soon. Enjoy.
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>>172453118
Try the OP
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>>172452937
>NEW EXPANSION IN A FEW HOURS!!!
>a few hours
>few
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>>172453042
Nope, sorry.
Better concede.
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>>172453248
that shit is outdated
i need one for this new expansion
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>>172453248
>new
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Did you give Luna the tribute she deserves?
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>>172453231
These better not be nip only.
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>>172453168
Saha memes are too slow now.
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Soulsquisher!!
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When are we going to get more leaders that aren't trash-tier tie-ins? Does Cygames hate money?
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>>172453042
>Mordecai leader
He will revive if you kill him, just concede bro
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What the fuck is wrong with her legs?
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>>172453168
You still probably want 1-2x Lucifers, since 4 heal is kinda hard to pass up.
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>>172452937
Thursday T2 Tourney is up. This'll be a quick and casual one, just to play around with the new cards.
New T2 mode, single elimination.
Signup: http://challonge.com/en/tournaments/signup/n0zH5XBSAr

Streamanon will show up! He said so! I'll believe!
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>>172453231
I wish they made individual sleeves for each of the Shadowverse Channel characters.
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Who /LunaLoyalist" here?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12597951

http://www.strawpoll.me/12597946

The pack value calculator / collection tracker in the pastebin has been updated for ToG. Please remember to download the new sheet before the cards are released, so you can track what you open right away.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit#gid=877059207
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>>172453342
isabelle is a monster

reeeeeeeee
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Everyone claim your expansion-fu
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>>172453523
If I open up one Eachtar, I'm crafting two more.
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Who ready for thicc leaders!!?
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>>172453415
I heard squish
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>>172453415
smug
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>>172453523
Nah screw Luna, Mordecai all the way.
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>>172453637
CLAIMED
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>>172453231
Why did they have to put Isacow.
Literally worst basic leader and her svchannel character looks so shit.
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>>172453695
Mordecai wouldn't be happy hearing you say "screw Luna"
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>>172453637
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Is it just me or they added 0 good aggro cards?
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>>172453491
She's wearing high heels, anon.
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>>172453415
I want her to squash something alright
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>>172453523
If the game was up I'd post my ranked wins that show I only play Shadow.
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>>172453683
Go jump off a tall building, faggot.
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>>172453683
keep ugly SF girls in /fgg/
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haha... good thing we all have lives and hobbies outside shadowverse while we wait for the update... haha
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>>172453736
Look at that cute little butt.
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>>172453342
Most underrated card of the expansion it's basically an aoe polymorph it can only get better from here.
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>>172453637
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>>172453794

They said there's "secret aggro tools" but they're not telling us. Cool stuff Cyshitters.
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>>172453919
I see NO butt.
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>>172453908
like playing hearthstone
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>>172452937
>still no expansion
Oh well back to getting my asshole raped
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>>172453683
Juri isn't thicc you colossal faggot
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>>172453842
Pedofag you mad!?
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>>172453919
I'm more interested in that perky chest
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>>172453919

Her art is so fucking cool.
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>>172453637
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Here's last one for the chopping blocks.

Night, guys.
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>>172454047

No, you massive fag.
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>>172453523
I have 500+ wins, almost AA1. Gonna be masters with new midrange. I believe in Luna. Don't listen to dorkfags.
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>>172453685
>>172453694
>>172453415
>generic uguuu~ face

So much shit taste in this general, I swear.
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>>172453987
Err I think this guy delivered my pizza yesterday?
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So once the game is on 1.5.0, is it safe to switch to JP, grab the v files, then go back to EN, even though the maintenance itself isn't finished ?
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How long until expac releases?
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>>172453901
SFV is now shadowverse related, pls send me more trigger posts...kimochi~
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>5 hours left

It looks like I'll have to open my packs in college
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>>172452718
>fucking deluded to think formats are a positive
That's a much more reasonable "delusion" than someone who actually believes he knows exactly how an entire market that he isn't even a part of will react to something that hasn't even been given details to yet.

The "prime example" you gave of YGO and the way Konami handles that garbage fire of system is something I never want to happen to SV and fortunately the devs agree so you can fuck right off.
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>>172454258
3 hours
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>>172453342
>>172453547

RIP cute maids

you suffered a fate far more torturous and horrifying than death itself
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>>172454147
spooky
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>>172454241
no, once you get in game you will download additional files.
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>>172454294
Thanks cutie pie
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>>172454136

>Those underwear straps imprinting on those soft, soft, hips
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>>172454047
Is this a tranny? Cause it looks like a fucking tranny. I don't know anything about sf aside from the basic 4-5 fighters that they put up on display everywhere.
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>>172454147
>SFV leaders

Who would ever use this garbage
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>>172453491
Chinese foot binding.
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I just want to play god damnit, I'm playing hearthstone and feel like killing myself.
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>>172453924
We already have Winter's Caprice though and I never see it played
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>>172453637
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>>172454547
Shadowverse is pretty popular with the fightan game commuity of Japan so I reckon they will.
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>>172454547
lots of people actually, specially in japan, in this thread alone threre's me and the fine gentleman posting juris, there's probably more people here who will use it but are being quiet about it
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>>172453924
I know right. This card is godly in a legit mage control deck which only doesn't exist because dshift is fucking retarded. I think it gets run in daria as a finisher.
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>>172453637

She's mine, you pedos can go elsewhere
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>>172453924
>>172454656
It also does damage to their leader next turn if you leave up the rats.
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>>172454687
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>>172454536

It's funny that you asked about trannys when there actually is one, but it's not Juri, the person in that gif (which makes her look bad imo).
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>>172454687
which one?
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>>172454547
cygames has a thing for sfv, it can't be helped

and you can be sure plenty of people will use them
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>>172454614

>cinfest in SS yesterday
>Expansion today
>Persona 5 afterwards

Who'd have thought that this week would be so entertaining
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>>172454721
>seiba clone #6457
yeah you can have her
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>>172454656
That snowmans your own shit.
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>>172454521
It drives me crazy. I may end up spilling seed to this girl before I even see her in-game.
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>>172454704
>"the fine gentelment posting But is"
>implying you aren't samefagging

Try again, anon.
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>>172453740
She and the other two are the cheapest ones to hire for periodic podcasts.
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Whale + Monthly sleeve, if someone missed it.
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>>172454547
I'm buying Juri day 1 desu
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>>172454547

The Karin Leader for Haven will be the ultimate BM
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>"pure" healer
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>>172454953
HOHOHOHOHOHOHO!
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>>172454521
her evo is ridiculous

do these knights have no shame?
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>>172453637
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>>172454941

Nothing worth grinding for
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>>172454941
Whale?
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>>172454941

Damn those are boring monthlys, there's so many good looking cards too
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Well, at least there are some nice expressions.
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Here is zip of ALL current card art (1.95GB)
https://mega.nz/#!DRwEyKqB!7XlYLtKQZ1pkmZHZxPMIllK8g6jXv-yWUy-SnF6JIs8

Here is zip of only the art that was added/updated in this patch.
https://mega.nz/#!qYplEYJQ!_Ot8MwzytP-HaftJ6_cmTUwJ6IsJ0dwEwJAmiVFnLl4
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>>172454997
I see no issue here. Maybe you're the one that isnt pure anon if you see her unpure
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>>172453948
>>172453794
>they still haven't figured it out
Heh, i'll have fun farming you fools with my secret aggro deck for next few months. It's nothin' personnel kids.
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>>172453637
Even though she's hot garbage, I'll still take her.
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daigo leader/emblem/sleeves when?
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>>172454521
looks like mamizou
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>>172455068

The battlefield is hell. Worrying about things like shame will only get you killed.
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>>172453637
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>>172454279
>give example of games dying in Japan when standard format was added (HS)
>give example of games trying and failing to implement standard format due to consumer outcry in Japan (Vanguard)
>give example of objectively financially successful game staying afloat in Japan, regardless of its dogshit decisions, that doesn't have standard format (YuGiOh)

>"you're fucking delusional if you think you can assert how Japan will respond this time"

Get an actual fucking argument or eat shit. I'm not gonna entertain your bullshit as you try to turn this into some shitfest about Yugioh, because that's not the point and you know it. Yugioh absolutely is a garbage fire, but Japan still likes it and financially supports it, which is literally the only thing relevant to the actual topic here, which is standard format in SV.

How the fuck are you gonna sit here and tell me I'm delusional when you've brought literally no argument to the table other than "I think you're wrong and full of shit"? You've offered no supporting evidence behind what you're saying, you just keep saying it over and over again like if you say it enough times it becomes more true. It's fucking astounding.

Now, either explain your belief that Japan will accept standard format this time, for this game, when they've definitively and provably never liked it before, or fuck off. It's really that fucking easy, that's all you have to do.
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>>172455074

Belphethighs

Thighverse is real
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STORM HAVEN GOT NO SUPPORT

WHAT AM I GOING TO PLAY NOW

DO I HAVE TO SAY GOODBYE TO THE MOON BUNNY?
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>>172455250
wow black stuff and pseudo wings
so evil
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>>172454091
>>172454521
>>172453637
What cards are these?
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>>172453342
Looks like that is Magisa on the cliff. I really do like it when they put references to other cards like >>172454521 does.


On a completely separate note, can someone with a Cblood deck that plans on making 3x Blood moon try out Moriana the Bejeweled? I used her a ton in my "budget" control blood, and I always found it to be very strong later in the game to plop her down along with a spare Wardrobe raider or Righteous Devil.
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How many more hours do we expect the game to be down?
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>>172455161
>Here is zip of only the art that was added/updated in this patch.
>still has everything combined
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Why do they allow three copies of legendary cards in your deck? The legendaries in SV are almost all insanely powerful, game-changing cards. I get that a lot of decks are set up solely around certain legendaries, but it basically becomes a game of who plays theirs first or who gets multiple copies sooner.
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>>172455541
what about mist shaman and calydonian boar?
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>>172454790
Me on the left
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>>172455683
you need to go back
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TODAY IS THE DAY BOIS, WHOS READY?!
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>>172455541
They did get support.

It's just not good support.
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>Post deck
>"HURR D-SHIFT!"
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT D-SHIFT ALREADY!
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>>172455649
At least 6 until it's availible again.
Maybe +2 if more bugs on top of Gawain are discovered.
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>>172455683
>but it basically becomes a game of who plays theirs first or who gets multiple copies sooner.
>this will be improved by forcing legos to be one-ofs
learn to math hearthtard
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>>172455683
you have to go back
>>172415803
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>>172455683
>Being this dumb
Look, not everyone enjoys having inconsistent decks that never get to play their fucking cards because you have to run them as 1-ofs.
At least play the fucking game before you come here you faggot.
Now go back.
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>>172455761
huff huff huff
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>>172455541
Play Elana-Storm. The new 2 drop bowman doesn't seem too strong for OTK, but it looks like it works really well for chip damage/surprise burn.
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>>172455716
mist shaman maybe, boar is just garbage and costs too much
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>>172453231
honestly who the fuck okay'd the streamer hair highlights on isashit
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>>172455658
It doesn't. About half of the pictures are from old cards because Cygames decided to readd the assets in this patch. The other half is the new ToG art.
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>>172455716

>Mist shaman

Actually pretty great card, but it's hardly enough to catch up against the value storm that is happening/going to happen.

>boar
>another 6-drop

It's just like shadow and their 7 drops.
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>>172455743
>>172455793
>>172455798
>>172455847
Let me guess, Daria players who complain about swordcraft all the time?
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>>172455587
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>>172455761
QUICK POST UR DECK
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>>172455649
I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say 3:00 PST

also
>>>172455950
Not them but
You need to go back too.
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>>172455761
>Today
>Implying they won't delay the maintenance for at least 5+ hours
By the time we are able to log in it will be tomorrow.
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>>172455924
They aren't highlights, she is aging rapidly because she dabbles in dark magic and ways to bring people back from the dead.

Pretty soon she will become a lich.
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>>172454302
how could they waste this art on such a shit card
also
>tfw maid tribal never
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QUICK, someone post a good blood deck so I won't have to think for myself once the expansion comes out.
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>>172455778

It is never to going to die, and masters is full of them.

Auto-conceding is nonsense if I'm going to do it EVERY game I play. It HAS have to 20 damage from hand on a regular basis or overwhelm field flood.
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>>172455950
what the fuck does daria have to do with anything? a lot of non budget decks use 3 copies of a legendary, dumb hearthfag
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>>172455587

The card names are in the filenames.
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>>172454614
sauce?
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>>172455587
>>172455967
>filename
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>>172455950
>have you ever been so told you've tried diverting attention with completely unrelated responses?
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>>172456039
Free pax
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>>172453042
literally wtf?
>reaper on board
>only 4 mana used that turn
>had an evo
>didn't trade into forte
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How do you get the SFV leaders? Drill hair ojou seems neat.
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>>172456084
I'm going to try this one, might replace veight or mini soul devil with night horde though, dunno.
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>>172456248
Dumbasses at C rank don't realize that Forte doesn't gain the effect until Overflow.
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>>172456248
Obviously the shadow player had already given up because the expansion was near.
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>>172456349
crystal only
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I think I have every Luna. Every time I see a Luna get posted, I go to save it and then see that I already have it. Someone prove me wrong and post rare Lunas
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>>172456248

People don't attack her even off overflow because they think they can't.
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>>172455935
Why would they possibly readd this guy
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>>172456242
We are probably getting a few extras anyway.
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>>172456248
some people don't know that forte only gains the 'can not be attacked' when overflow is active.

shh keep it quiet.
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>>172456439
Because he's cool.
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>>172456349
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>>172456387
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>>172456387
you might have a problem or very lonely
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>>172456387
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>>172456457
They fuck up the one sword card that was interesting and opened up a lot of new decks to be made.
T-thanks Cygames.
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>>172456387

NEVER EVER AGAIN
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>>172456387
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>>172456387
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Wait, isn't it at least 5 more hours
Its saying 10pm JST for me.
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someone upload undub file
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>>172455541
It got chalice for the control match ups that will be everywhere.
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>>172456069

Great art always end up on shit cards.
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>>172456607
>They fuck up the one sword card that was interesting and opened up a lot of new decks to be made.

But Lecia isn't under maintenance.
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>>172456796
Do not bully Medusa
She is my wifedaughter.
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>>172456796
I want to look straight at medusas flat justice
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>old hag kanade
who cares.
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>>172454547
me
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>>172453342
>>172454302
>>172453547
https://exhentai.org/g/678770/0eb14837cc/
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>>172456586
>>172456684
Ok, you can delete this right now
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>>172456387
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Listener discretion advised.

https://my.mixtape.moe/oionou.mp3
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>>172453924
I honestly think it will make dirt rune OP.
>build great wall of china
>mutagenic bolt
>if they can't clear your wall you win
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Wait, its up already?
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>>172455467
>Now, either explain your belief that Japan will accept standard format this time
That's completely predicated on your retarded assumption that rotating formats are why games fail in the first place.

>Japan when standard format was added (HS)
HS didn't "fail" in Japan because of standard. There are numerous reasons why it isn't as successful compared to other regions including a more competitive domestic market for CCGs and Japan never having exposure to warcraft games but the introduction of standard is not one of them.

MtG is alive and well in Japan, two of the devs of SV play it professionally and draw from it frequently for inspiration in SV. The scene in the country is very healthy "despite" having rotating formats and many Japanese players show up in international competition. Japan isn't going to have to accept formats "this time" because they already done it with MtG.

Cygames aren't stupid. They have market analytics and people whose job it is to evaluate the financial ramifications for their decisions both domestically and internationally and they have already given the SV team the greenlight to implement formats. Which do you think is more likely between their entire company making a horrible blind-sighted mistake that has "killed" other CCGs in the past or simply that the reasons behind those other games failing had little to nothing to do at all with formats?

You've already said that you'd quit when SV gets formats so I eagerly anticipate the day you can put your money where your mouth is and fuck off.
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>>172457158
>dub
>sayonara

What did he mean by this?
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>>172457158
>sayonara
What the fug
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>>172457158
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>>172457158
Is this the power of english?
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>>172456376
>>172456504

>shekels only

Nevermind then. Adieu, drill hair.
>>
Bm'ing autist will give me so many free wins.
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>>172457240
So kinda of unrelated question why do people says that HS failed or is dying?
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>>172456923

I tried so hard to make her work but some cards are just inherently shit.
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>>172457158
is this owlcat
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>>172457158
Is that owlcat?
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>>172457405
Because it's been in steep decline
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>>172457158
>https://my.mixtape.moe/oionou.mp3

Where can I find the rest of these?
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>>172457158
For a while now, I've thought the dub was pretty good. Some bad parts here and there, but some other really good parts at the same time.
This falls under the "man this is shitty" part.

Also, wtf is with the new "circle the thing" captcha.
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>>172457405
>so alive they decided to increase pack prices in order to milk what remaining dumb players they got
It was fotm up until they decided to make it RNG:the game
Thats about it
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>>172457405
In Japan or in general?

In Japan it was on the backfoot since day one since the country is already inundated with CCGs and there is no real draw to the game since it lacks waifus and characters like thrall and sylvanas are literal whos to the nips.

It's doing poorly worldwide due to the metagame being in a horrible spot for the last few months because of pirates and jade as well as a recent price hike on packs for EU and some other countries.
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>>172457053
thanks. body swap and femdom is great.
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Post the Ouroboros decks RIGHT NOW
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>5 hours left
>can't focus on anything else even though I have shitload of other games to play
>just sit here refreshing the thread like a retard

So how are you coping?
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>>172457379
>Favorite girl on class I have no interest in playing
Welp
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>>172457819
>He actually thinks Ouroboros isn't a meme card
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>>172457819
Fuck off Hazama
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>>172457819
>ouroboros x3
>carrot x3
>concede button x1
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>>172457880
>refreshing the thread
>manually refreshing
>twenty motherfucking seventeen
The fuck?
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>children's card game

https://my.mixtape.moe/efyunt.mp3
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>>172457819
Read the thread nigga
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>>172457880
Same way as you except that I have anime running on the side.
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>>172457880
>refreshing
Anon..
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>>172457819
I'm planning on crafting this right as the expansion hits.
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>>172457158

Please do Little Soulsquasher.
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>>172455991
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>>172457880
>still doesnt have 4chanx

There is no excuse
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>>172457880
>refreshing the thread
are you stuck in the past anon
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>>172457405
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-03-28-hearthstone-is-killing-itself-superdata
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>>172458007
>succ
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>>172453637
EMT
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>>172458007
>https://my.mixtape.moe/efyunt.mp3
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>>172458007
>https://my.mixtape.moe/efyunt.mp3

My wife is perfect!
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>>172458035
>>172457982
>>172458062
>>172458058

>implying I don't have the extension

You now that 30 second timer until auto refresh? I just keep pressing it constantly before it even reaches 0. That's how bad it is.
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>>172458007
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>>172458156
The legs are fixed!
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>>172458007
I just don't get the dub at all. They obviously have decent voice actors like this. How the fuck do we have shit like Jeanne, Veteran, and everything voiced by that worthless slut Fitzgerald. There's just no standard of voice acting, and it's not the shit voice actors that are to blame, it's the faggots hiring with no regards to consistency.
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>>172458191
Change it to 1 baka
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>>172458007
http://usamin.love/card/charon/e_death.wav
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So did the SFV collab got scrapped or what?
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>>172458007
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Are the Street Fighter 5 leaders coming to the west?
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>>172458156
>>172458337
I'm wondering that too. Are the legs fixed in game? the art is atrocious as is.
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>>172458517
i fucking hope so
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>>172452937
So the decks I play are:
D-shift Runecraft
Control Shadowcraft
Aggro Bloodcraft

And I'm building either white wolf or roach forestcraft, and I have like 1700 gold.

Should I just spend all my gold on the new set or standard because I need 3 ancient elf still?

What cards should I be on the look out for the next set?
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>>172458396

I think the voice acting has been a lot more consistent with each expansion. I expect ToG to have the best voice acting yet. I guess we'll see.
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I know how to balance aegis.

Make
Aegis
HP
1

:)
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>5 more hours

half done bois
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>>172457819
i bet he is one of those HURR DURR I'LL USE ROOST THEN OUROBOROS, IM THE THINKING MAN CRAFT
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>>172458583
Never spend your gold on standard until you have most of what you need from other sets. The powercreep is real so the % of useful cards in expansions is way higher. Just craft standard shit.
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BREAKING NEWS:

THEY ADDED SOME NEW VOICE LINES TO OLD CARDS

FOR EXAMPLE, GOBLIN MAGE NOW HAS THIS EXTRA LINE

https://my.mixtape.moe/wfbvnk.mp3

THIS PROBABLY PLAYS WHEN CERTAIN CARDS LIKE GOBU AND FEENA INTERACT
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>>172458701

fuck

I can't take this
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>>172458583
You won't get AE from standard, there are too many cards in it.
Just buy the new xpac or whatever other one you need to finish the deck and craft the AE. Or buy the prebuilts good goy
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>>172458734
There are idle lines too. I never heard them though.
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>>172458734
>Forest was gutted before Goblin Mage could have a cute line about finding a beetle
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>>172458659
Or just simply dshift his shit up.

lol
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>>172458734
>dub

No one cares. Kill yourself.
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>>172458734
>still cant do "you're too slow!" emote when playing quickblade
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>>172458734
T E C H N O L O G Y
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>>172454547
I refuse to play SFV, but Karin is my waifu, so this is a good workaround for me.
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>>172458730
>>172458759
Thanks anons, but other than that, are there are cards to look out for in the new expansion for the decks I play?
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>>172458734
POST THE JP ONES PLEASE
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>>172458734
>>
someone please post soulsquasher voice line
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>>172458734
kys
dub
cuck
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>>172458734
ANOTHER EXAMPLE

VEIGHT + VAMPY LINE

https://my.mixtape.moe/jzlakh.mp3
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>>172458734
Fuck off back to /r/shadowverse.
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>>172458882
>Karin is my waifu
>when Ingrid is suprior in every way
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3 sybils and 2 fervors or 3 fervors and 2 sybils? help it's eating my brain
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>>172458957
>vampy
>clearly calls her vania as that is her name

>dubcucks
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>>172458037
>No Forte
Worthless.
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>>172458957
>Vania
IT'S VAMPY YOU DUBKEK.
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172458957
>>172458734
where are the sound files located at?
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>>172458957
The way he says Vania sounds unnatural
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>>172458957
Who the fuck is Vania
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>>172459025
3 sybil so the deck costs more
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>>172458957
Holy shit it's been so long since I played with dub, I didn't remember how fucking horrible Veight sounded
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>>172458957
kys dubcuck
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>>172459025
>Still trying to make discard meme work
It's not going to work, even the devs admitted to killing it since there are no good discard cards in the new expansion.
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>>172459095
Vania is an interpretation of name Ivan.
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>>172459025
2 sybil 3 fervor
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What are the """SECRET AGGRO TOOLS"""?
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>>172458957
>vEnia
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>>172457935
I get it.
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>>172459170

>Dragonslayer's Price
>Bones of Discard Dragon

Poetic
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>>172458037
and what happens when they play satan?
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>>172458957
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>>172459321
Then you lose
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>>172459321
You have one turn to win?
Like any other deck?
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>>172459276

Easy, Daria.
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all these japanesedub cucks triggered by the vania + veight line
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>>172458007
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>>172459276
more storm to face
>>
can anyone explain how I can download the update early on steam?
>>
Never used the dub but >>172458007 is actually good while >>172458957 is terrible.
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>>172459276
there's a secret 5 card combo that wins you the game
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>>172459001
>No Personality
>Source game is strung together shit that's more forgotten then EX
>Completely pointless character
>Somehow this makes her superior
Fap bait for hipster plebs at best.
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>>172459549
>2 x maid leader
>3 x albert
So that's the secret combo huh.
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>>172459453
But the english dub cucks are triggered because they're not using "its my headcannon" name
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>>172459549
ambling yurius veight vania vania?
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>>172458007
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>>172459649
fuck, you found it already
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>>172459440
the point i'm making is that this deck isn't fast enough to kill them before satan, has no pressure, and doesn't even HAVE satan??? so you beat aggro, sometimes? that's a single archetype. and you probably still have a 50% win rate against them
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>>172459440
How do you win a game with that deck?
>>
Is it up yet?
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>>172457240
>That's completely predicated on your retarded assumption that rotating formats are why games fail in the first place.

An assumption which I've given evidence to support, and you've yet to really disprove outside of saying "I'm sure HS is dead for completely different reasons but I can't actually prove that so please take my word for it".

MtG is an entirely separate monster, because it's hit a point where almost nothing could kill it. Even when they print an awful set, people just accept it and move on to the next one, because that's how much loyalty MtG has developed. Regardless of whether or not they like standard formats, they'll play it anyway, because it's literally the biggest trading card game in the world. SV is not that big, and does not have that crutch to fall back on.

I would also argue that the core audience of MtG and the core audience of SV are somewhat separate, because SV appeals more to people who have played things like yugioh/vanguard/etc, where again, standard formats are provably hated. Since I can't actually give you evidence to support that they're definitively separate demographics though, feel free to handwave that point away in the same manner you've handwoven away all the points I actually did give evidence for.

>they have already given the SV team the greenlight to implement formats

When and where was this? Google turns up nothing, and that doesn't seem like the sort of thing they'd openly share anyway. I haven't even seen this mentioned in the thread before, so please don't just be pulling this out of your ass.
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>>172458895
Anamoly might be fun in white wolf, playtesting that myself.

Elf Queen has the potential to be a full heal back to 20 depending on when you play her, just don't use her in PTP. Or Roach.

Beetle Warrior is probably going to be good in Roach, the storm isn't hard to trigger.

I feel like people are kind of sleeping on Earthshock Ogre as a potential x1 in any Aggro deck. If you still have an evo point for him, that's six damage to face with no need to worry about wards. In bad Shadow or sun satan matches where they just dropped a Khway to stop you from killing them he could be the winning differences, and i just think as a turn 8 ender he has a lot of potential.
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>>172459079
>>172459085
>>172459095
>>172459134
>>172459453
HI I'M VANIA
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>>172459749
yes
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>>172459549
>flame destro
>flame destro
>flame destro
>dshift
>dshift
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>>172459795
you lied to me
>>
what if there's a special interaction line between mordecai and mordecai
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>all these people who undub their game
>they don't even understand 95% of what the characters are saying when it's not just simple shit like "shinde!", "itai yo!" or "hora hora"

why
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>>172459663

It's actually weird how Veight wouldn't be calling his loli vampire immuto by a petname/nickname like Vampy and went with her official name instead. I get that not all siblings add a -y at the end of their younger sibling's name like I do. It's not uncommon practice however.
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>>172458037
>50% of the deck is unplayable before 5
I think it needs some blazing breaths, this thing is gonna get eaten alive by unga bats if it doesn't get a nut ramp draw.
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>>172459853
>now neither of us will be virgins
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This one's good, even you weebcucks have to admit it.

https://my.mixtape.moe/sgplzs.mp3
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>>172459749
It's up in 4 hours and 30 minutes
Go pirate some movies or something

Or just jerk off to trap doujins while you wait.
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>>172459970
Go back to /hsg/.
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>>172459906
prepare for the incoming "i, and i only know japanese so it's like the entire world knows it too, your argument is wrong"
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>>172459853
>What a handsome fellow!
It literally writes itself
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>>172459970
Well yeah, scotish/irish +japanese hybrids are rare
but why does the king of the elves sound like a dwarf also?
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>>172459906
Because hearing what the characters are saying is not important. It's NOT hearing shitty dub-lines that appeals to me. And muting the voices is boring.
>>
tbqh as much as I hate the dub Vampy is a fucking stupid name.
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>>172458007
I can actually fap to this and I'm going to do it
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>>172459954
>>172459734
>>172459714
Poster here, I really just want to play Israfil waifu.

What suggestions.changes would you guys make?
>>
So if I play 0 cost anomaly, evolve it then use arriet on it do I win?
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>>172459906
Because they're weebs.
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>>172459906
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>>172456586
TSUKOME TSUKOME!
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>>172460172
It's just Vampire shortened with a y
Like calling Dracula Dracy or something

Vania is a better name
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hey, it's her, vania
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>>172459906
>clown mordecai
No thanks you can keep your HOHO's
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>>172459906
>ever dubcuck argument ever
You don't have to understand a language to feel one tone of voice is more appealing than another
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>>172460172
we already went through this

her name is vampania
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Her name is Vampers-chan.
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>>172459906
You should always consume media in its original language. You are just a pleb.

Also
>going to the only place that hates dubcucks
>get mad when you are getting told to fuck off
Kys
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>>172458037
Sword is going to eat that deck for breakfast
And you know exactly what the ladder looks like

Wolfbolt is countering you aswell or at the very least VERY hard for you to beat

You should shit on sun satan though

No need to mention d shift you know the drill

Daria should be beatable with this

Aggro is going to be very draw dependent
Like crazy draw dependent

You have no earlygame removal options and it's either draw ramp into clear or die turn 5

Report back if it works, because I doubt it's consistency

I even doubt ouro fits into tthe deck at all
What do you need him for?
MORE lategame?
Why would you ever play ouro in that deck
Saha is always a better play
Luci is often a better play
Baha is often a better play

And the return aspect is wasted, since the game is only 9 turns long

Like when do you intend to ever use him?
Turn 13 and turn 18?
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>>172460263
>Those ears
Why are they so gigantic in that pic?
She's not fucking dumbo.
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>>172460261
Vania is just Transylvania without the Transyl.
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>>172460287
I don't disagree, but wouldn't you like to know what a card you are playing is even saying?
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bored so im going to draw shitty fanart

belphegor or medusa?
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>>172460280
yes, boring monotone garbage is so much better
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>>172460287
player of both here, can confirm this, and the other way around too, some voices like mordecai and erasmus are better in jap, while other are better in engrish
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>>172459853

Now you got me thinking about other possibilities. Fairy King or any Fairy royalty card together.
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>>172460418
Belphegor X Medusa
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>>172459759
They did talk about formats in that IGN interview. Something akin of "yes we've considered it and are preparing for it, yada yada probably in the future."
Plus they did rotate standard sets out in arena, which sets kind of a precedent, but that's a pretty different story.
I think rotations/banlists are entirely unnecessary in virtual cardgames where you have the advantage of being able to nerf/buff the cards to your desire.
Cygames rotating half your cardpool, you've spent/worked so much for, out of the competitive format would instantly ruin the game for me and make me drop the game.
Hearthstone/MTG players might be whipped hard enough to tolerate the devs taking half of their cards away just because they can't be assed to balance them, but I won't.
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>>172460404
Why? They're throwaway lines that have no meaning or impact on gameplay, at least you can make them nice to listen to.
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>>172459906
weebs in denial "I-It's not the same! The game is Japanese, the voices in Japanese are better!" this are the same kind of people that complain about Scarlett Johansson being Major
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>>172459906
>implying I don't understand Japanese
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>>172460435
SO THATS HOW ITS DONE!
SO THATS HOW ITS DONE!
SO THATS HOW ITS DONE!
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>>172453637
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>have korean name and flag
>spam hello and drag out games whenever I'm up against a japanese player.

Have you pissed of a jap today, /svg/?
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>>172460550
Just like nice voices enhance the experience, so do good lines.

Hearing powerful lines and actually knowing what they say when you place a good legendary adds to the atmosphere, just like listening to the voice itself.
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>>172460386
>>172460215
Not the original anon, but I'm going to try it out since I'll have all the legos.
But you fags are right this deck is only really beating specific late game control decks.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/zvytke.mp3
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Has anything been datamined other than the sleeves and voices?

Any new premades?
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>>172460553

>Scarlett Johansson being Major

Really? of all the of problems with that movie, that's what they went with?
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>>172460587
>whenever I'm up against a japanese player.
So like 9 out of 10 opponents?
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>>172460553
Kindly fuck off, you normal
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reminder to just change to glorious patrician korean language, where everything is better than shitty nipon
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>its a dubcucks cry about not being welcome episode

Holy shit you retarded niggers just fuck off to your subreddit. People there probably love the dub
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>>172460553
>Scarlett Johansson being Major
I don't even know what the fuck you are talking about, normalfag.
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>>172460753
NO, fuck you. I turned off voices because they are annoying as shit regardless of language.
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>be on a japanese image board for weeaboos
>condemn japan and anything japanese
>hate listening to japanese and demand everyone to use english dub
>tell everyone else to hate the japanese as well

-thinking-
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>>172460707
yes
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>>172460514

sold
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>>172460710
plot twist: you were the normie all along fag
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>>172460753
>korean
>patrician
no
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>>172460765
Literally no one is crying Mr. persecution complex
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>>172460526
Is that all? That was ages ago, and their exact response was pretty much "we will tell you nothing about that at this time". They definitely didn't confirm it then, so if that's all there is then we have nothing to worry about.

I'm really not a fan of the arena changes, but that at least isn't making the cards you spent time/money to get useless. It makes sense in theory since draft would hit a point where decks would be almost completely uncontrollable and random, but I wouldn't be surprised if they revert the arena change anyway, since it's only gonna take about a week to see how much of a mess things will be without the standard cards.
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>>172460860

Well, since it pertains to Disney, and Ghost in the Shell. You're better off not finding out in detail.
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>>172460753
this
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>>172460553
>are the same kind of people that complain about Scarlett Johansson being Major
Plz people who complained about that were sjw, actual weeb were complaining about how the movie was going to rape the lore.
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>>172460983
except yes really
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>>172460860
>he haven't watched GiTS
wow what a fucking pleb
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>>172459759
>An assumption which I've given evidence to support
No you haven't. You didn't give a single bit of evidence that undeniably links HS's lack of popularity to the introduction of standard.

>MtG is an entirely separate monster
>I would also argue that the core audience of MtG and the core audience of SV are somewhat separate

Holy shit are you even reading what you type? Listen to yourself for a second and tell me you can't see the ridiculous hypocrisy in this.

Up until now you're entire argument centered around "SV will die with formats cause Japan hates games with formats and look at these examples of games without formats that do well" and have thus treated the Japanese market as one giant homogenized mass that you know the in and out of. Well NOW if you want to argue that MtG is "different" and the audience of MtG and SV are "seperate" well guess fucking what, I can turn the exact same argument around on you that because SV is not only different from the unnamed card games you mentioned that failed but also Digital that any kind of bullshit comparison that you try to make between how formats affect them is completely invalid.

>When and where was this? Google turns up nothing, and that doesn't seem like the sort of thing they'd openly share anyway.

Pic related.

>"From early on in development... we recognise the importance of introducing formats"
>"Something we've ALWAYS been preparing for"

There you go, feel free to quit and leave.
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>>172461097
but muh horseshoe theory
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>>172460753
Korean sounds like shit
Not as shit as Chinese but it's up there
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>>172460765
>reddit
>not full of the most obnoxious weebs imaginable
They're 100% subfags and the only Japanese they know consists of 気持ちいい、大丈夫, 中だし、and はい。
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>>172460753
Choa is life
>>
Post waifugoddess decklists
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>>172461128
I don't really care about american popstars. She got nothing to do with GITS, Esl-kun.
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>>172460908
>be on an american english language japanese inspired image board
>argue about something as pointless and as matter of preference as dub or undub
>demand that people leave if they like either

Feels good to be idort master race.
Feels good to be above it all.
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>>172461150
>>172459759
Pic courtesy of anon from the last thread.
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>>172461150
>pic related
>posts no pic
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>>172460553
>Scarlett Johansson being Major
PORK IN THE SHELL

>>172461097
>the movie was going to rape the lore
They already ruined everything, the Major still has his human brain in the live action.
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>>172453760
Mordecai wants a "true" leader with balls of steel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QXJLLrnDFo&t=0m42s
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>>172460585
tfw tf fetish
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>>172461318
Its not a matter of preference, though. Listening to the dub is plain retarded.
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>>172460553
>Scarlett Johansson being Major
PORK IN THE SHELL
O
R
L

IN

T
H
E

S
H
E
L
L
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>>172460018
>>172460765
>>172458994
You should know by now that the game only imports audio for one language. Otherwise you wouldn't need to add them yourself after each update.
But yeah, thanks for trying to scare off the only guy leaking rips in this thread.
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>>172461318
Telling people to fuck off is the soul of this site. Nothing wrong with it, it's like breathing.
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>>172461419
Not like this
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>>172461497
Kill yourself.
>guy leaking rips
I hope he joins you.
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>>172461518
Indeed
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>>172459759
>An assumption which I've given evidence to support

Do it then faggot, you're the one making the claim so the burden of proof is on you.

List every single CCG you claim died because of rotation and proof that it died because of rotation and not other reasons because you sure as hell didn't in the last thread. Clearly there must be a ton if you can say with certainty that it's going to kill SV.
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>>172461497
The other one went to sleep and is actually willing to post japanese voice so the current one can fuck off for all I care.
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>>172461381
This is so bad its not even funny anymore
Its just an april fools joke right?
>>
Bad news, guys. They didn't add English lines for the female Quickblader.

https://my.mixtape.moe/sehhqm.mp3
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>>172461783
jap only event? fug
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>>172459759
>I would also argue that the core audience of MtG and the core audience of SV are somewhat separate

Did you miss the part where TWO (2) of the LEAD DEVELOPERS are also professional MtG players?

>SV appeals more to people who have played things like yugioh/vanguard/etc,
source: your ass
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>>172461783
>bad
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>>172461783
Time to rev up that dmm account
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>>172461783
Then why even add them to the English site?
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>>172461772
>This is so bad its not even funny anymore
What's exactly bad? Wakamoto Norio has the best male voice.
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>>172461849
Its a colab with a game that doesnt even exist in the west
Why would they care about you cucks
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>>172461783
>Osoi!
Truly a better Quickblader.
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>>172461849
Why would they translate the card though?

Well, the game isn't even available in the west anymore so it's understandable.
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>>172461783
Wait, female quickblader?
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So these updates have the voices for the new cards, right? I'm assuming that I can go ahead and prepare an undub for later.
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>>172461783
Fuck off. I hate this JABAN ONLY bullshit.
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>>172461783
Reddit on suicide watch
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>play faeria
>its ded
>play eternal
>get a hand with nothing but mana on mulligan
>play krosmaga
>its pointless, because arena release is tomorrow
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>>172459765
So not too much new shit I should be looking for to use in my decks?
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>>172459170
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>>172461995
Well right it defeat the point of the collab if it doesn't even exist here
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>>172461783
I was afraid this would be the case. But I guess it makes sense since the idol emblems from a while back where Jap exclusive also. But you just KNOW the SFV collab will be the one that gets an English version.
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>>172461783

Everyone send those fuckers some hatemail.

This is bullshit.
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>>172462105
I tried playing krosmaga on my friends account and actually enjoyed the game but I have one question. Is Sacrier just straight up trash? I lost most of the matches against Cra and generally felt like I couldn't do shit.
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>>172462025
Was told that might be unsafe. There's additional files that you apparently only get after the maintenance.
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>>172461783
>Bad news
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>>172462182
>if the nips dont cater to me as an american specifically then it shouldnt exist
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>>172461783
>>172461995
the fuck is this?
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>>172462501
alternative art for quickbalder
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>>172462275
Well, no, Sacrier was a hyper efficient aggro class and got nerfed.
Tomorrow, with Iop and Cra nerfs, Sacrier, at least the control one, should be viable.
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>>172462227
>capcom

I wouldn't bet on it
They love pulling exclusive shit up their asses
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>>172461783
>bad news

kys dubcuck
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>>172462646
>Tomorrow
I will give it a try if I don't pull anything I want in SV.
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>>172461995
Which game?
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>>172462736
can someone translate?
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>>172461783
>tfw you use the japanese client so you don't give a fuck about this or undubbing
>people who think you don't understand a thing of the nip voice just look retarded
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>Dragon is good now
>Luna is shit
>retarded SF leaders

Oh well. See you next expansion.
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>>172462783
Rune Story
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>>172462736
I hope noone translates this
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Post them
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>>172462736
translate it weebs please
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>>172461150
>>172461319
Well that's really disheartening. It's not anywhere near as definitive as you made it sound though, "considering" and "doing" are two very different things. There's still a solid chance that they won't make this mistake, so for now I'm just gonna keep enjoying the game and see what happens.

Still, I'm really just fucking tired of you moving the posts around with the rest of this conversation so I'm just gonna drop this here if that's alright with you. This is just getting ridiculous, you've gone from "HS didn't fail because of standard" right into "HS was your only example and I disproved it", when you know full well I listed other games *and* you didn't even actually disprove my point about HS. There's no point in having this go on any longer, because you're just gonna say shit that's outright untrue, and that's no fun for anyone, not even for the other anons we're making scroll through this mess.

If you're right and they do implement standard, then we get to see which of us was right about the japanese market. Until then, work on finding a way to get the stick out from your asshole.

>>172461850
>literally say that this point is purely conjecture, and to not regard it as actual evidence
>you do exactly that
>pretend it's some sort of "gotcha" moment

(You)
>>
NEWS UPDATE

>SFV collab scrapped
>Undubbed accounts banned for breaking ToS

That is all, source your mom.com
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4 hours boys
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>expansion still isn't out
Shit game.
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>>172462968
I want to die between those legs
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>>172462930
Luna is shit but our boy Mordecai's still rad as fuck.
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>>172462025

Why is Ouroboros in her shitty big snek form and not loli form?
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>>172463079
Thanks, subscribed.
keep me updated
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>>172463101
Fuck, time to get back to Yakuza 0.
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>>172463152
Shit taste detected.
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>>172462968
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>>172461714
We're talking about the playerbase in Japan, in case you missed that important part. No shit standard format won't kill the game in the west, that's never been my point and if you read the last thread you already know that.

My evidence was the colossal failure of Vanguard's standard format attempt in Japan, the fact that YuGiOh ( a game made in Japan) has blatantly avoided standard format, and that HS's numbers in Japan "coincidentally" fell when standard was added. The only evidence that even begins to contradict that is the existence of MtG in Japan, but frankly MtG could practically start blending children and people would still play it so gauging anything based off that is irrelevant. There's no way to prove that Japan likes standard formats just because they play MtG when fucking everywhere plays MtG, and if you really wanna say I'm full of shit over my point about HS that's fine I guess, but you still have Vanguard and YuGiOh that has to be explained away before you can just tell me I'm throwing baseless shit around.
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>>172456457
>implement a d-shift counter
>don't release it
What did they mean by this?
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>>172462146
Not for Roach, at least. There are some interesting cards for wolfie since the new forest cards are more geared towards midrange and tempo. The only new tools roach really got was beetle and maybe ogre. Which is probably the smart move, roach already runs like a fine built machine most games.
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>>172463152
Samael card when?
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>>172463331
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>>172463331
>d shift counter
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>>172463331
>Gawain
>Sword's mordecai
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>>172463405
When is this smug cunt doing porn again?
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Odin rowen
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>>172463525
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>>172463439
>>172463432
>causes matches to be cancelled
>not a d-shift counter
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>>172460676
a cute!
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>>172463525
IKUZOOO!
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>>172463565
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>>172463525
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>>172463694
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>>172463849
But that's Marisa.
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>>172460215
i'd suggest you put satan in it
>>172460668
>But you fags are right this deck is only really beating specific late game control decks.
the point is that it isn't. it loses against them because it doesn't beat satan
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>>172459906
>50 year old sounding women lazily voicing lolis
How about no?
>>
Isabelle needs breast reduction surgery
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>>172463565
Replace Sleipnir with Hippocampus.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufRzDTg1kw4
Master player extraordinaire trannybae tells us how the meta will settle.
I swear I'm not him.
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>>172464139
>54 year old women lazily voicing 17 year olds
How about yes?
>>
so, did they extend maintenance time?
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/svg/, which legendary are you going to craft immediately if you don't open enough copies of?
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>>172464267
>him
what?
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>>172464434
Ouroboros
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>>172464267
Who gives a fuck about that bigger?

The guy could literally choose any female voice to immature yet he chose the "pudgy dork" option. What a sack of shitty genes.
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>>172462968
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>>172464434
Snek

Arguably the one Im most excited to play and build around
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>>172464434
dark john
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>>172464442
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>>172464515
Probably this
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>>172464434
Belphegor
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>>172464434
Gimme
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>>172464434
aegis
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>>172464561
What card is the snake card? Been hearing about it these past 2 days.
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>>172464530
*nigger
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>>172464267
>him

Respect someone else pronouns you fucking retard.
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>>172464678
Maelstrom Serpent
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>>172464434
Haven't looked at the cards. Do we have a full list yet?
Probably all of them.
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>>172464434
It would've been Gawain but not anymore I guess. Probably Belphegor since she'll probably be good for a while.
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>>172464587
What the fuck? Thats him(her? The voice sounds really feminine.
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>>172464692
>retard
Fuck off ableist
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>>172464843
No
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>>172464434
All the Aegises and then proceed to OHOHOHO shitters in ladder before they quickfix it's brokeness on the second day.
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>>172455161
Thanks for the dump!

Does anybody have a dump for all the leader artworks? I can't find it.
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>>172455541
Honestly, I can only see Haven going downhill from here and being a Tier 3 Craft.
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>>172464863
Envy is a troll.

Plus it's easy to sound like a female when you're a sad sack of genes like him to pull it off. Kudos to you for being fooled by it though.
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>>172464863
it's a tranny

google envybae and see for yourself
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>>172465023
>invincible man of nice bahamut bro
>t3
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>>172464863
That's prior to becoming a tranny. No recent pictures exist.
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>>172455541
>tfw judge is now better than moon in every other deck
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>>172464587
legit looks like link from rhett and link except sadder
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>>172463384
Ramiel card when?
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>mfw free packs + 4500 gold + 35k vials and 5000 crystals
Tonight we party boys
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>>172465043
>>172465128
Him being so ugly explains perfectly why he is using an anime profile picture instead of a selfie like all the other attention whores.
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>>172464553
That thing sure hates Caucasian men. It's always in the tags at low scores.
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>>172464942
you know guardian sun doesn't work with it?
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>>172465283
MAN THE HARPOONS
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>>172465346
We still don't know
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>>172465283
>600 gold
>3500 vitals
>0 crystals

Y-yeah... time to party...
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>>172465328
Caucasian men aren't aesthetic or cool.
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>>172463017
>there's still a solid chance that they won't make this mistake
Yeah, I reckon they won't. Because it's not a "mistake".

>when you know full well I listed other games
You listed CFV and YGO as example of games that are evidence of non-rotating cardgames succeeding. Then you handwave MtG off as a "different monster" when it is even more successful and has formats despite the fact that YGO and CFV are even more different from SV since neither even us a fucking mana system. Saying "everyone plays MtG so you can't gauge it" undermines your own point since you are conceding that it's more successful that either YGO or CFV which are less popular worldwide.

Well here's something else to consider. Japanese money isn't the only money lining the Cygame's pockets. SV has already launched on steam, in Korea, and there is a Chinese client in the works as I type. The Korean and Chinese markets are both huge and both are receptive to the idea of formats if we're going to use HS to gauge like you did. So between not introducing formats (which only has shaky evidence domestically based on your one CFV example) and introducing formats (which has worldwide support from both HS and MtG) I think Cygame's devs will know which way their bread is buttered.
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>>172465153
Guess you have a point there. I'm sure that at best, Aegis would be stuck in a Tier 2 deck.

The other Haven decks are going to be Tier 3 for sure.
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Can we please discuss the most important parts of this expansion?
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>>172465291
The voice he chose to take on reflects on how he would be if he were actually born a female: unnatactive/pudgy
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anyone else excited for fairy queen control forest, has anyone theorycrafted a deck so far?
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>>172465328
hahahahahaahahaah
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>>172465572
I want to fill her with my seed.
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>>172465531
not that anon, but do formats mean that the cards from the older set are basically free dusts?
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>>172465642
WE
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>>172465572
>>172465683
YURI DOUJIN WHEN?
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>>172465328
>>172465642

I wonder (((who))) could be behind this?
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>>172465720
WUZ DRAGOONS AND SHIET
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>>172465435
t SEA
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>>172465714
No, unless they decide to make the new format the only format, what I doubt will happen. Normally there is a format where everything is allowed.
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>>172465720
WUZ
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>>172465767
I want to be her Kerberos.
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>>172464863
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>>172462968
i want to live inside her ass forever
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Ya'll ready for Ouroboros?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxsSqDnNIo8
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>>172465612
Armpits?
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>>172465714
formats will (very likely) mean that there are going to be two ways to play.

-A rotating format where only recent sets are legal (may or may not also include the standard set)

-An eternal format where everything is legal.

So if you have no interest at all in playing the latter, yeah you could just vial everything.
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>>172465831
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>>172465940
Those better be sweat droplets
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>>172465907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGOzXaOQ50M
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>>172466024
DARK DUHRAGOON
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>2/7/8/10 nep
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>>172459906
You know why.
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Are we getting free packs or not?

Cygames better not start going full Team 5 on us - especially since we now have two legs per class.
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>>172465975
>An eternal format where everything is legal.

damn, can't see that being a balanced format. power creep is real in this game
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>>172465531
>jp audience
>around 1 million
>gaijins
>a few tens of thousands
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>>172466167
They always announce the free packs after the expansion has already dropped.
I don't see why they'd change now given how successful it's been.
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>>172466152
>10
w-what?
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I wanna flood the board as shadow.
How succesful will i be in tog?
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>>172466167
I do hope we get free packs
Only saved 015 rupies
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>>172466342
Bahamut I assume?
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>>172466272
yeah and it will not be a balanced format, see Vintage or Legacy on Magic
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>>172466284
1 million downloads on android. primarily weebs.
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>>172466381
Just themis it bro
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>>172466284
>what are gooks
>what are chinks
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Vampy is cute!
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>>172466519
>tfw themis will get rotated out in the future format

ez haven
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>>172466381
you already know the answer
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>>172466284
Have you been playing at all in the past month?

Gooks are filling up the ladder. I see almost as many as I do japs nowadays, and prior to the gobbu nerfs plenty of them were running 3x alt art soccer moms.

The gook money is real anon.
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>beautiful (twice)
>elegance
>fashion
>glamour
>sensuality

>there are people that unironically want this perfect creature dead
Are you gay son?
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>>172466701
Gooks are the fattiest whales in the world.
It's part of their culture to spend money on stupid shit, so they just have to embrance it and no one bats an eye.
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>>172466471
>I don't know how fanfares work
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>>172466773
>>172466193
site?
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>>172466773
Stupid meme advertising site
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>>172465531
>Jap devs
>giving a shit about gaijin no matter how many shekels it earns them
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>>172465618
He should have chosen something like Luna's voice
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>>172465531
I mean, good for you that you like games where the stuff you earn just becomes useless because you physically aren't allowed to play it. I'm happy for you that you enjoy what you spend your free time on. But you can't just sit here and pretend that it's the objectively correct way to do things, or that everyone should like it.

At least in MtG there's other formats that are competitive, if SV goes the way of HS then there likely won't be, so your old cards will be a few vials at best, assuming they let you dust them at all since getting vials from them might mean you won't need to buy as many new packs. MtG lets people use their old cards, in tournaments that actually matter, which is a big difference. In SV, the most likely scenario is ranked being standard and maybe if we're lucky unranked will be eternal format, or even worse we could get eternal shoved under the arena tab to rot and both ranked and unranked will be standard.

Again, if that's what ya want, more power to ya. But my point on Japan still stands, because Cygames is a Japanese company, and unless you forgot already, they've thoroughly proven how much they don't care about prioritizing or betting on the international audience with Rage of Bahamut. That's not even including the several promotion events in SV that have been Japanese-only so far - Idols, Daria sleeves, and Charon emblem, just to name a few. Sure, it's a neat theory that SV could safely die in Japan and carry on from the money it gets globally, but what I want you to consider is the very real and evidenced possibility that Cygames, as a Japanese company, will prioritize success in Japan whenever they can, as much as they can. If that audience kicks up a storm about it, it won't get in the game, and no amount of American bitching will change that. We already saw this happen with the Ouroboros leak, when Japanese players made the outcry they did about the effect being bad and then the effect being changed before release.
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>>172466272
So rotation either forces you to vial the cards you spent cash for or makes you play in an unbalanced format.
Why do people want this?
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>>172466773
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>>172460660
Thats why my voices are a mix of undub and the few actually good english followers like Satan,Iceblade Warfiend,Eidolon,etc.
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New user here who signed up after the last expansion hit. Do they usually release free booster packs when a new expansion hits? If so, how many? I'm excited for the expansion but am hoping it comes with free packs to get everyone started on using the new cards, as I don't want to dig into my wallet for boosters just yet.
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Maintenance says it's until 9pm, it doesn't say the timezone. Does the game check your own clock, or is it just Tokyo time or GMT or something?
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>>172467106
last xpac they gave a shitload. not nearly enough to get a full collection ofc
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>>172466996
I'm betting it's like that one story about the monkeys and the ladder. It's been done and accepted before, so it'll be done and accepted today here.

Not gonna lie, though, that really salten my sardine crackers.
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>>172467106
5-10 packs, maybe even more.
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>>172466701
>soccer moms
back to /r/anime
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>>172467106
Nah, they just send a message in everyone's inbox that says

"HAHA FUCK YOU GAIJIN, SUCK RICE DICK"

They give japs free 20 packs though
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>>172467172
Says 8pm for me so might already check your timezone
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>>172467172
The time in in-game notice is converted to your local time.
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Why are all the new 2 point blood cards so useful? Pretty keen to use baphomet
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>>172467236
don't listin to this little bitch of a fucker, japs get less packs for being japs, glorious gaijins gain 30 packs
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>>172465612
Sure.
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>>172467106
Usually it's 10 packs, plus a few more if anything goes wrong.
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>>172460361
UTEEEE!!
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Man, a lot of these new Haven cards are ass. I'm pissed..
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>>172467430
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>>172466996
As someone that's used to rocket tag from playing Legacy I'm fine with a unbalanced eternal format.
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>>172467106
No free packs this time
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>>172467245
yeah, it checks your timezone. Maintenance is set to end 9 PM Eastern, 6 PM Pacific. It's somewhere around 9 or 10 AM Japan-time I think.
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>>172466996
it rotates the meta and the decks and people like this and Cygames likes money
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>>172466773

I wish neps was me mum
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>>172467236

I wish I could make my own digital card game so I can send trashtalk messages to random players as the owner because no one would ever believe them
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>>172460361
>>172467430
>>172467484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd5Xn6aH_5I
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>>172465612
Absolutely
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>>172466773
>caucasian ethnicity
lmao
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>>172467468
Good for Eidolon
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>>172467619
Is this show fun?
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>>172466381
You have shit like Thane, Eachtar, that one enhance removal spell and Death's Breath.
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>>172466996
It's to prevent powercreep from happening. As more and more cards are part of a format the less changes a new card has to make an impact in it unless its powerlevel is jacked to shit.
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>>172466773
She is dead already. It's not a matter of anyone wanting it or not.
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>>172467694
It's pretty fun, cute girls doing tank things.

Best girl.
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>>172467626
Pharaohs were recently confirmed to be Western Europeans

Egyptians were literally just tanned caucasians
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>>172467694
No but all the hitler jokes make up for it
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>>172467694
Yes.
Watch the serie first, it's mostly realistic.
The movie is super fun but went full A-team in term of realism.
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>>172455530
Woah, she actually looks pretty damn good.
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>>172467468
It's fine. The devs probably know that Haven is getting a lot of play and a lot of wins so there's nothing wrong with giving the craft nothing :^)
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>>172467626
I see you posted an egyptian picture, my favorite part of caucasian history.
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>want to craft Blood and Dragon
>need 6 and 5 legendaries respectively and a bunch of gold
>know i'm not going to pull shit based on previous luck
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>>172467106
10 packs everytime.
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>>172467468
Probably cause they got the most (theoretically) broken card in the expansion. Though I doubt Aegis will be the wincon people expect, they were probably too scared to give Haven anything else too good.

However I fucking love the idea of Chalice and I wanna meme it with Eidolon. Flat out giving you three Apocalypse cards means you don't get fucked over by Servant, and you're not in danger of getting controlled into bricking yourself, which most capable control decks can easily do. I think it could be incredible.
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>>172467626
do you understand that Egyptians were caucasians, like arabs are and white people. I think calling "white people" white people also stupid, much better term would be High Caucasian
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>>172467683
I have 3 eidomemes and can't wait to pull some grails.
Gonna be tier 0 in /svg/ meme tourney.
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>>172467626

>good chap doesn't know that we were pharaohs and expletives
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>>172467619
do the cute Nazi girls eliminate blizzard executives in air tight chambers by chance?
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>>172467525
>people like this

No, MtG players have been conditioned to like this, and now everyone's expected to like it even though it's fucking stupid. This guy put it perfectly >>172467203
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>>172455530
>Belphegor has 1 HP more than Desert Minthe
AHAHAHA
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>>172467683
mah nigga

Post deck theories. I'm working on something for my three animated Eidolons but it's obviously trash so far.
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How often do you find yourself actually dropping morde? It just feels like a win harder card for me that'll just get me killed if I try dropping it without already having the game in the bag.
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>>172467950
You mean 1 more attack? Minthe is a Goliath with 3/4, not desert rider with 4/3.
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New chapters when?
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>>172467943
This. Rotations are just about the kikiest shit ever. ESPECIALLY in a online CCG where they can just adjust the cards that are too powerful.
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>>172467904
I have 1 animated. Tried Eidolon Haven in AA and it was pretty solid.
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>>172468076
I could've sworn she was 3/4. Oh well
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>rotating expansions = removing whole sets
>removing sets = less memes
>less memes = less fun = less free wins 4 u

It's not rocket science
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>>172468061
Who cares? Shadow is dead.
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>>172468131
>>172468040
>>172467683
>>172467904
So many optimistic acolytes of madness.

Brings a tear to my eye.
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>>172468105
They added bunch of scripts and voice acting for future chapters.
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>>172468131
I mean Eidolon Seraph*
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>>172468105
SOON. They will also give leader sleeves as rewards.
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>>172467880
expensive decks are fun to build towards. honestly with the 2 sword leggos this xpac i'm almost wishing i chose sword as my main class but sibyl's pretty good too
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>>172468218
>Rowen becomes chemo
>hair falls out
pottery
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>>172468121
>mfw people claim that rotation is needed to bring fresh ideas to game
>mfw people say that rotation is to stop powercreep
>mfw biggest CCG HS has rotation but every xpac powercreeps one before it
>mfw people want this for SV
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>>172468218
>>
>3 hours left until I can drop a bahamut on aegis
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>>172468218
>Shadow is dead.

that's a funny way of spelling haven, m8
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>>172468328
What is that 4th one?
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>>172468328
>Luna's sleeves ruined by mom&dad ghosts
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What are the set emblems?
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>>172466381
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>>172468421
Shadowverse channel something something
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>>172468358
To be fair, SV is powercreeping faster than pretty much any card game in existance. They know they fucked up.
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>>172466952
>good for you that you like games where the stuff you earn just becomes useless because you physically aren't allowed to play it.

Even in the alternate universe where cygames takes your advice you're still going to end up losing cards due to bans/changes. They just won't necessarily happen predictably or all at once.

I want to play with new cards. I don't want to play against the same powercreeped archetypes for years on end. I would rather the cards I like be relegated to an eternal format than have them nerfed or change to make way for new cards. I don't want a SV where a new player needs to get a dozen different legendaries from six different sets to make one competitive deck.

SV easily provides you with enough free stuff to keep up without paying if you do your dailies.

>if we're lucky unranked will be eternal format, or even worse we could get eternal shoved under the arena tab to rot and both ranked and unranked will be standard.

They would at the very least do what HS does where both their standard and wild (eternal) format have separate ranked ladders and unranked queues.

One of the SV devs even plays Legacy (the second most inclusive eternal format in MtG). There's reason to believe that SV's introduction will get more support than HS's.
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>>172468421
animated radio show
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>>172468421
Shadowverse Channel.
Their podcast show on nico nico.
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3 more hours pedoniggers. We will have our sweet revenge.
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>>172468501
Why Prince Catacomb? It only becomes better than Bone Chimera if there's already 2 other things on the field.
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>dragon is finally becoming decent
>talk about rotation and formats begin
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>>172468671
wow rude
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>>172467773
>>172467849
>>172467903
>>172467906
WRONG!
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>>172467883
Why eidolon? I feel like garuda is a better wincon, as you can chalice then garuda and keep up pressure.
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>>172468524
question from someone who hasn't played MtG: if all the newer stuff is basically a power set up from the older stuff, then what point is there in playing the older stuff when the newer stuff is able to do the same things gooder? i'd imagine that it'll be the new stuff that'll dominate even an eternal format.
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>>172468671
dragonniggers hopes getting so high and then when they are totally crushed and tier 99 meme dumpsters after two weeks is going to be glorious
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Anyone got a good blood moon control deck they want to share? It can be expensive I don't mind. I was going to build a neptits deck with my 14000 vials and 4,000 gold, but this expac kind of shat on shadow and control blood looks like it might finally be viable thanks to this card and the generally not trash lego's it got.
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People confused about Aegis are memeing. The actual card that nobody understands is Prince Catacomb.
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>>172468752
One other follower actually. He affects himself too.
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>>172468921
Keep crying bitch nigga.
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>>172468521
>faster than pretty much any card game in existance
>implying
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>>172468953
This
At this point everyone knows how aegis works
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>>172469045
You could try to make a case for Yugioh but that's been around forever. SV has been around for a year.
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>>172468521
That is true with a RoB, but not tempest of the gods. The whole set is meme tier with cards added to buff weaker classes. It's mostly fun cards that make old cards viable for more meme decks. I don't understand how people cant see this. RoB will forever hold the biggest powercreep ever seen in shadowverse until a format switches it out.
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>>172468876
>if all the newer stuff is basically a power set up from the older stuff
It's not. The whole point of rotating format is to avoid having to make new cards super powerful to convince people to buy them.
The eternal format of MtG is mostly "old" (ranging from actual card game prehistory to medium old) cards, and it's actually quite rare for a recent card to be strong enough to see any play in eternal format.
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>>172468754
Standard rotating out would hurt Sword a hell of a lot more than Dragon.
Can you imagine trying to play an aggressive Sword deck without all the little Storm shits like Quickblader, Novice Trooper, and Alwida's?
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>>172468989
Then he becomes equal.
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>>172468824
you can get 3 cards at the start of turn 9 and have full mana to use them
if you run garuda, you waste your turn 9 playing him and can't play the cards grail pulls until turn 10
>>
40299

Concede niggas.
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>>172468524
It's crazy how this works, but it's actually possible to not have standard and also not suffer from powercreep.

See this fucker? This fucker was printed in box 1 of Vanguard. As in, physically the first box of Vanguard ever released. At all. And guess what? He's still really good. He's still used in pretty much every single decklist for this clan. Why? Because the 'powercreep' came in the form of new mechanics and restrictions (think things like adding "clash" keyword in SV) rather than just outright printing better versions of old things. So old things still get used, to the point that literally every meta deck includes old cards, but new things are still absolutely worth getting, so people still buy new cards.

I get that this might not have occurred to you, because again, by the looks of it you've probably only ever really experienced games that use standard format. What I'm asking you to do, though, is to open yourself up to the idea that maybe, just maybe, there's more than one way to achieve the end result you want.
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Will this win me games?
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>>172469150
>The whole set is meme tier
Oh shut up you tart. People literally said the same exact shit about RoB and look how that turned out.
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Why do chinks have a 60fps Android patch for the game while we don't?

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5001637858?pn=1
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>>172468953
the actual card that's a complete mystery is frogbat

which god gave him his wings? why is he so chill?
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>>172469206
Forgot Quickblader was Basic, but my point stands.
Control Sword loses a lot too with the loss of Aurelia, Tsubaki and Frontguard.
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>>172468521
Just nerf the cards if they're too strong and design the new cards smartly. We have digital cards which allows us to nerf shit easily, why not use that ability.
Why would I accept the devs taking away my cards which I paid for?
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>>172469206
Good, fuck Sword. Forest too. They might be able to give both of them interesting cards.
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>>172469280
very soon people will concede if they see baphomet played on turn 5 so your deck could be terrible and it will still net wins
but yeah your deck seems alright
kind of greedy but still decent
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>>172468876
>if all the newer stuff is basically a power set up from the older stuff

It isn't. In fact it's the opposite. Most of MtG's early cards were beyond broken, shit like

1 PP spell: Draw 3 cards

2 PP Dimension shift

0PP Gain 3 PP this turn only.

That kind of ridiculous shit. If MtG DIDN'T introduce formats those cards would be run in every single deck because it's so powerful. It's like YGO where cards like Raigeki, Dark hole, Upstart goblin, mirror force, etc. are seen in pretty much every deck.

Formats mean that a new player can focus on building a deck from a couple hundred cards in the most recent sets instead of the 16000+ cards across dozens of sets in the game's history.
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>>172468876
New sets don't necessarily power creep cards directly, however adding more cards to the pool invariably power creeps it unless every single card added is unviable.
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I cant wait for all these new memes

>Grimnir JO dragon
>""""Control"""" forest
>Bloodcraft with guaranteed turn 6 Snakes
>D-Shift getting BTFO by new control sword card
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>>172469274
You might have a point, anon, but I think that all this is pretty moot since the SV designers come from an MtG background, which also includes accepting things like standards and rotations.
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>>172469303
You retarded piece of shit, i said that they mostly buffed the weaker classes like shadow, dragon and blood and the rest is meme tier. What don't you understand about this? I'm not saying there isn't meta shifting cards in this set, I'm saying most of this set focused on buffing weak classes whole being a meme set as a whole.
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>>172469280
Control Blood can definitely become something this expansion.
However, what you posted is Meme Blood. As in, not just overusing the word "meme" to mean bad, it's just really a pile of meme cards. You've got the Axe+Medusa meme ""combo"", you've got the Carrot meme, you've got the Demon Commander Laura meme (without Cocytus, might I add, so God knows what you intend to use it on)
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>>172469579
>Bloodcraft with guaranteed turn 6 Snakes
>meme
I can almost guarantee that's going be T1. Not too many decks can answer that and even those that can have to do it immediately or it's pretty much a loss.
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>>172469579
>dshift ever getting btfo
Now thats a meme
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>>172469642
Explain how bringing the rest of the crafts up to the ridiculous tier of Rune and Sword is a meme
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>>172469274
That's a really good example.
I really think Vanguard is a well designed card game when it comes to introducing new cards and mechanics. Their choice of limiting new cards through keywords allows for them to not only make new and exciting stuff but to also revive old and unused cards.

I remember being absolutely hyped about Legion, since it allowed decks to use old cards in an effecient way.
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>>172469151
>>172469547
>>172469552
well, that helps clear thing up slightly. thanks for taking the time to explain it to a newb to tcgs/ccgs.
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>>172469251
I see what youe coming from but just remember this is removalverse, your better of using cooldown cards imo. If Eidolon ends up working its becausr its a dedicated deck towards it that runs chalice, but imo a midrange storm garuda can easily run chalice and be a top contender unlike eidolon, but of course this is all in theory.
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>>172469579
i remember realizing grimnir and the crystal would interact on the bus but then i forgot about it. thanks for reminding me
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According to nip land giant rune and snek blood are pretty strong
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>>172469757
every deck can answer it with execution.

some classes have other amulet removal they can use instead but the moment snakes become too strong and people use 3 execution then the deck goes back to meme tier. baphomet being a joke of a drop on t5 means you have a breather turn to actually use amulet removal to stop the snakes. 2 5/5's is nothing, daria vomits out more than that earlier.
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>>172469757
>themis
>Well fought I concede
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>>172469937
>giant rune
This does not surprise me
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>>172469579
>>D-Shift getting BTFO by new control sword card
P E T R I F Y
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>>172469937
what happens when you play lightning blast against them?
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>>172469547
Can't you just like, you know, nerf the cards?
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>>172469937
Nips are bad at the game.
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>>172469968
>turn 7 drop another blood moon
>turn 8 and 9 drop sneks
>turn 10 drop bahamut
gg
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>>172469968
Blood can tutor more snakes.
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>>172468040
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>>172469937
Did Rune really need another card to be dominant in another expansion?
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>>172470006
A lit of people don't seem to realize that in that type of deck, you want as little earth rotes as possible
All you want is giant, new golem, and maybe prof.
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>>172470072
you really hope to have 10pp on turn 6?
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>>172470151
It has weaknesses in the form of shadow and haven and possibly lighting blast but that might be to slow
Guarenteed tier 2 at worst and definetly playble

Also rapes dshift
Hard
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What will midrange/control sword drop for the new cards? Will cannon be a meme deck?
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>>172470282
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>>172469547
>If MtG DIDN'T introduce formats those cards would be run in every single deck because it's so powerful

You do realize they could've just banned the stupid cards from the beginning without making cards expire every 2 years right? Even just modern format could've been standard, and you'd still get to keep the vast majority of your cards. But that means you aren't forced to make a completely new deck from scratch every other expac, and that might mean you'd buy less packs, so fuck you pay me.

>>172469552
See >>172469274

>>172469580
But again, Japan does not like Standard, and regardless of the dev's MtG history they absolutely will refrain from adding standard if the Japanese playerbase doesn't want it. There's a good chance it won't happen, is what I'm saying, and I just really want to try and explain to people why that doesn't mean we're gonna get creeped into oblivion or have a boring meta.

>>172469865
Exactly, by adding new mechanics that, under extra conditions, give more powerful effects, they kept everything they printed before from becoming useless, because as they raise effect power they also raise cost. You still want older cards because they're easier to activate, but you also want new cards because they have more difficult-to-achieve effects that are super rewarding. SV could easily follow this ideology, but we'll have to wait and see I suppose.
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>>172469349
>which god gave him his wings?
there is only one god and 600 years ago they would have burned you for this phrase

>why is he so chill?
it's explained in the second part of his flavor text
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>>172470243
I'm curious as to what that list will end up looking like.
It can only be more enjoyable than Dorothy or the abomination that is Dorothyshift. Face it semi-regularly at Masters and it might just be worse than Vegemite.
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>>172469579
>control sword card
>control sword
Is it more Storm in face?
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>>172470426
Dshift will win the turn after you're able to play it.
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>>172470426
>Also rapes dshift
>Hard

I'd be almost tempted to play it, were it not tied to the Craft I hate the most.
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>>172470467
the giant can't be targeted by shit
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>>172469937
Snake is a given, big guy will be good but also have bad matchups so he will see play but not be as popular...then again rune has some strong answers to this whole new set of amulets coming out, so its not so much big guy putting dirt on the map as it is dirt was already decent and got a nice push to being an annoying contender. I'd say hes ok while dirt as a whole has become amazing.
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>wake up from nap
>still 2:30 hours away from maint end

Goddammit
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>>172469937
Just madame lich your skelebros lmao
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>>172470505
It's just fiction bro relax, it's just a theological experiment bro
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>>172430038
There's a little of good stuff in each. Probably Totg for lightning blast and RoB for breath, sieg, and eyfa. You'll get standard from missions and arena

>>172433872
Reminder that gawain slows down the curve out while leonidas can come out earlier enabling a resolve+castle pop with otomemers starting at 17 face to OTK with otomemer and pp for removing at least 1 ward.
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>>172470631
>implying maint won't be extended for a day
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So basically ignore bapho and go face?

I can' wait for whining about mask and bapho for them to get nerfed.
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>>172470581
oh wow didn't know that, stronger than i originally thought. date masamune still deals with it though
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>>172470151
Dirt Rune needed a wincon to go with all of the removal and wards. Guess what they got?
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>>172469280
add sexy and snakes or some neutral finisher (1x satan/2x baha)
swap ice blade for alucard
add mask
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Is it still worth running dire bond when now there's Belphegor?
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>>172470795
Sure, I guess. I'm just mad salty that the craft I hate is still going to be top dog in this game.
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new bread >>172470949
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>>172470487
It's impossible to weaken a format by adding cards to it. Power creep is inevitable and the only way to reduce it is to take cards out. This is a fact.
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>>172470896
>waifus that hate you
beast dom?
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>>172470795
Giant is shit in the current build
You want to build around giant, not just slot him in there
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>>172470282
You can banish the amulet
And then you only have to deal with 2 sneks

And evo owlguardian takes care of those

And if they get the funny idea of going to 10 health for their sneks you can punish it with forte face for most likely lethal, sine they have a slow baphomet turn just before the sneks drop

I didn't include an answer for magical big guy yet
We'll see how big of a deal he's going to be

If I need to, I'll run 2 date though
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>>172470896
man i love this videos
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>>172470896
>dragging out your disappointment
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>>172470890
Play bard, dire bond, kill bard, free heal and draw.
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>>172470990
>post actual example of a game where powercreep is not a problem
>"no that's impossible"

Good talk
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>>172470890
>drop mask
>drop dire bond
>???
>PROFIT
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>>172470487
Let me guess, before this game you mostly played yugioh.
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>>172470989
>20 posts early
Fucking kys
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>>172470896
this image has aroused me. you must take responsibility for your actions
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>>172471148
Nope, E for effort, try again
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>>172470896
Using the skip button after opening your last pack is the best way to blog about what shiny new cards you got.
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>>172471127
Moving the goalpost. Your opinion of what is or is not a "problem" is irrelevant to the discussion.
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>>172470795
Rune giant is EXTREMELY situational to be a wincon
You need at the very least 3 sigils IN HAND to make him big and strong and even then he dies to a bane but of course wards can still cuck you from winning
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Anyone have a rune or sword list for beating the Elite 2 AI?
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>>172471042
Not really hes an option based on matchups, he can be teched in or ignored completely, will depend on what the meta shifts to. If D shift is popular ppl will run 2. Halo on the other hand is the mvp of dirt this set 3x of for sure in all dirt decks.
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>>172471317
So your argument is that powercreep is a problem in Vanguard, then? I guess we're just gonna ignore how that moves the goalposts as well, but aight, make your argument I guess
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>>172471428
dimension shift crushes them
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>>172471057
you can destroy the amulet with execution or dragonrider devil, you don't need lightning blast for that

they have mask to save them from forte
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>>172471428
Just use Albertcraft
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>>172471320
Even with 0 sigils in hand he's still an overstatted untargetable dude on curve. With evo/any sigil buffs he becomes a pain to remove for any class outside of Shadow and Haven.
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>>172470487
>There's a good chance it won't happen, is what I'm saying, and I just really want to try and explain to people why that doesn't mean we're gonna get creeped into oblivion or have a boring meta.

Sure, I suppose. I'll be honest, though; as much as I share in your sentiment of keeping the old while minting out the new without invalidating either in a creative manner, the IGN interview with those developers don't really instill much confidence that it'll turn out the way you say it'll be.
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>>172470487
>Japan does not like Standard
>they absolutely will refrain from adding standard if the Japanese playerbase doesn't want it.

Because vanguard didn't do it? Then why do PokemonTCG and Duelmasters both have rotating formats then?

I get this might not have occurred to you but a deck can have so many cards. Every single card added to the legal deck pool reduces how much impact every other card has and only the most powerful cards actually make it into constructed.

When you don't rotate that pool keeps growing to the point where if a threshold of the new cards in a new set don't make that cut in powerlevel they don't sell enough packs. The presence of cards that just become auto include mean newer cards have even less and less space to work with.

It's already happening with shadowverse. Every Forest deck is going to run AE and roach, every sword deck is going to run Albert, every rune deck is going to run either Dshift or Daria. EVERY aggro deck runs DoD. You are arguing for a game where you see these cards forever.
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>>172471578
Alright I'll keep trying. Just got really frustrated when I tried last night. Kept only drawing into 1 of them or not drawing into any flame destroyers over and over again. Never bricked that hard in actual matches that many times in a row.
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>>172471672
>Problem removing a follower on removalverse

what is bane? But i can see dirt building wall befire dropping him would be a huge problem, but then every deck just needs to run bahamut, So far DRAGON HAS EVERY ANSWER TO WHATEVER THE META SHITS OUT!!!!


HEARR!!!
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>>172471249
Don't hide it, anon. It's obvious.
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>>172471913
I'm pretty sure the new dirt Rune doesn't run either Dshift or Daria. There are some staples that will be in every version of that deck forever, yes, but that means you never have to give up your favorite deck completely. It's different, not worse.
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>>172471057
I've already been running 3x Date as my only 2pp follower in my Ramp deck, and it's been working wonders. If the new meta is light on aggro like people are predicting, his value just goes up even more.
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>>172471545
Strawman. My argument was that power creep happens inevitably as card selection grows. That's it.
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>>172470896
>>172471058
>>172471237
w-what is this
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>>172471913
You don't understand how deckbuilding in Shadowverse works and why new cards can always find space in them

shut the fuck up

fucking idiot with more words than brains
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>>172472208
patrician-tier porn
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>>172472115
You can play your favorite deck in the eternal format, without any changes.
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>>172472495
Yeah, that worked out really well for HS
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>forestshitters panicing at the prospect of not being able to roach and soccer mom
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>>172472208
Amelia Wang aka Mayli
gud shet, pretty hardcore
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>>172471913
>you are arguing for a game where good cards get to keep being used
Yep. That's correct. Not a negative thing. Moreover, I'm arguing that even a banlist would be better than a rotation, so cards that are defining everything around them can be removed without removing literally everything else that came out on the same day as it. But a banlist is redundant because this is a digital game, and any card that would need to be banned can just be toned down and those who still want to use it are allowed to, e.g. Homecoming, Piercing Rune, etc.

And once again, I'm just going to flat-out tell you that this is wrong:

>Every single card added to the legal deck pool reduces how much impact every other card has
Every card added to the deck pool is a chance to combo with an old card for a new play. Every card added to the deck pool is a chance to make multiple strategies viable and fun. Every card added is a chance for new decktypes to emerge which will make good use out of old cards.

Every card added to the deck pool does not invalidate cards printed before it unless the devs are retarded and they just print something like "Better Maid Leader" that's Maid Leader except with better base stats/cost.

>>172472206
Yes, I know that's your argument. And my counterpoint is that in Vanguard, the card selection increases without old cards being creeped out, which is an exact example that contradicts your argument. You then proceeded to tell me that I'm strawmanning you by asserting that you believe there is powercreep in Vanguard. So let's make this simple:

If you believe that power creep happens inevitably as card selection grows, then any game with a growing card selection has power creep happening in it. That's not a strawman, it's basic causality. So if Vanguard is a game, which it is, and it has a growing card selection, which it does, then by your words Vanguard must have power creep. My argument is that it doesn't have power creep, so now you have to refute that.
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>>172472218
You don't seem to understand the concept of what a 40 card deck limit is so let me spell it out for you in a way your brain can handle it.

A fourty (40) card deck means you can only include FOURTY cards in your deck (That's as many as four tens).

Whenever a new set comes out, if you want to put new cards in your deck then that means you have to take old cards out. If nothing rotates out that means as cards keep getting released the amount of cards from every set gets lower and lower which means that the number of cards every new card must be better than keeps going up and up.
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>>172472740
>Forest players panicking at the prospect of not being able to viably win
wooooooow
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>>172472906
No, CURRENT decks do that when a new set comes out. The thing that you keep missing is the fact that new cards can be useful with old cards and make new decks. We're seeing that literally right fucking now, with things like Bond+Mask. New card comes out, makes an old card more useful, and either goes into an existing deck or spawns a new one. To put it another way, good cards coming out for Havencraft doesn't mean that they're going to automatically be included in every Havencraft deck. Storm Haven won't be making too many changes at all this expac, while Elana got some new toys and Aegis might end up being a whole deck of its own. That doesn't mean powerful cards weren't released, and it also doesn't mean that Storm Haven is a useless deck. Do ya see where I'm going with this yet?

Also, it seems like you're trying to imply that if a deck was evenly split between expacs that that would somehow be a bad thing. Like, if a 40 card deck ran 10 standard, 10 darkness, 10 rise, and 10 tempest, that that would somehow be bad.
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2 HOURS LEFT UNTIL THE END OF MAINTENANCE!

Things you can do to pass the time:
- Cook and eat
- Watch a movie/anime
- Take a nap
- Fap
- Some combination of the above
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>maintenance ends in 2 hours
>it's going to be 3 AM by that time
>wouldn't mind staying up, but have class tomorrow
Damn, can't wait to open those sweet packs
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>>172457595
I've never really played hearthstone. What makes it so RNG?
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>>172473415
Gonna sleep since it's 1 am here. I hope there's a delay while I'm sleeping so I'm getting more free packs.
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>>172469757
>turn 6 snakes
I must be newer than I thought, what are snakes in this context?
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>>172473415
I hope for an extension of the maintenance so we get more packs
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maintenance ends 2 hours before my exam
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>>172470890
If you play Control, yes it is.
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>>172469757
Kids loves misusing the term "meme" nowadays, don't overthink it.
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>>172473690
Maelstrom Serpent.
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>>172473568
Almost every new card focuses around RNG targeting. IE deal 1 damage 5 times to random enemies. Deal 4 damage to a random enemy. Return a random enemy to your opponent's hand.

My favorite being the infamous Dr.7, which is literal random on random. Deal 1-4 damage to a random enemy. And this if from someone who stopped playing after Whispers, which introduced fucking Yogg-Saron and made me lose hope in the game completely. C'thun was kind of dumb too.
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>>172473568
the best class in the game for a while had the ability to summon a random totem out of 4 possibilities and did random amounts of spell damage in a range on every spell
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>>172473568
They unironiocaly have cards like this
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>>172474326
Yogg is fun though. C'thun allowed you to make a deck focused on a single win condition and rewarded you for doing just that instead just throwing broken ass legendaries in your deck (like Boom) that required huge sacrifice on the opponent's end to answer. The randomness is a huge detriment for player fun, but is fantastic for viewers. It's why Hearthstone is one of the most popular Twitch games.
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>>172474326
>>172474506
Why do they do this? To appeal to the lowest common denominator? IE the ultra-casual who just plays shit at random and then laughs about it? Or worse, the sort of person who thinks they won with skill when random shit rolls in their favor.

Seems like really bad design.
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>>172472843
I'm not that guy but you really have to approach something like this from all angles.

Banning cards is no different than a rotation other than only a few of the best cards being rotated out, when you effectively ban the entire set that means that new players no longer have to buy those packs which lowers the cost of entry to the game which is a good thing. What's the point in removing the strongest cards from a set yet still requiring new players to get those packs?

For older players it also makes new sets more exciting when because it gives both the devs and the players more room to explore. Take a look at Forest during this expansion cycle as an example, to most of the Forest players all they're getting from this set is Beetle Warrior and a bunch of useless junk to meme with. If they got rid of the old power cards and added new ones in their place then they have room to experiment and try new decks and new combos with. However, as it stands now their only concerns are what cards they cut to make room for Beetle Warrior and how to not kill themselves since they've essentially been stuck playing the same deck for 9 months.

Compare that to Blood which was fairly shit so they had a lot of good cards printed and now Blood players have a lot of room to explore. Vengeance decks, new Mary combos, Snakes, Airjammer requiring them to figure out the optimal way to build with the 2 drops, etc. Nep was a good example of this last expansion, even up until a few days ago the shadowfags were still arguing the proper way to build Nep because of how interesting and varied the decks can be, if all classes got things like this every expansion that'd be fucking fantastic.
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>>172474919
STORIES TO TELL TO YOUR FRIENDS
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>>172474293
Oh, with baphomet? ok, caught up now.

Not sure about it, but caught up.
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>>172469757
How do you get a turn 6 snake?
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>>172474681
Yogg is kind of fun. I can see the appeal of the resulting chaos for some but it just isn't there for me. If I win with it, I don't really feel accomplished winning from one card. If I lose against it, I don't feel outplayed; I feel cheated.

C'thun was kind of dumb, but I agree with you. At least he was accessible for lower investment players and you had to play around him more than Yogg, and Sylvanus could HARD counter him. At least, back then.

>>172474506
Also good point, though that card is pretty trashy.

>>172474919
The common reason is to make games more exciting. And for a while, I bought it. Dr.7 was annoying, but at least you could play around it. I just think it became to much of a core design philosophy.
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>>172474980
>What's the point in removing the strongest cards from a set yet still requiring new players to get those packs?

It's not required, because all cards are craftable, so at any time you can just pull from the pack you want to and dust the pulls you didn't want to craft the older cards you did.

>For older players it also makes new sets more exciting

No. Creating new decks by banning old ones is a net zero. It's "variety" and "different" but ya know what also achieves that? Just printing new powerful cards that don't have synergy with the old powerful ones. So roach decks still get to exist, but also other Forest decks get to exist too. Just like how Fairy Queen was designed to not work with PtP, so that a shadow-gaining control Forest deck can't use both. You have the choice of playing with the old wincon, PtP, and not playing Queen, or playing with a new one, like Wolfbolt, and getting to use Queen. This was the correct solution, as opposed to just deleting PtP and forcing people to pick the new option. Am I making sense to you yet?
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Why hasn't anybody made a new thread, ya lazy fucks?
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>>172475764
Why haven't you made one, fag?
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>>172475912
I just came here. 47 posts after autosage, and no new thread. Disgraceful.
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>>172475015
"Ha ha, so this one time I played a card and then it won/lost the game for me, ha ha it was so great, guess you had to be there."

>>172475512
I guess I fail to see the excitement in having cards go off like an assortment pack of bootleg fireworks. There's already enough randomness in drawing.
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ded gaem
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>>172475598
>Just printing new powerful cards that don't have synergy with the old powerful ones.
We ran into the issue with having too much synergy during this expansion though when an innocuous little card like Goblin Mage lead to a 70% WR deck. Sometimes there are interesting effects that simply can't be printed because of old cards existing that would push them over the top.

I agree that Fairy Queen has an excellent design and is something they should strive for most of their cards but it's too hard to predict what players will come with unless they handcraft entire decks like they did for Daria.The issue with Fairy Queen though is that she's a "fair" card, and forest doesn't have room for any fair cards in their deck. Fairy Beast is simply a better option since he can be bounced and heal for as much if not more than she would at that point in the game. So now we're left with a new interesting card that could be fun to design around that will see little to play outside of cforest decks that go full control and drop the roach and fairy packages entirely.
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>>172476260
ded thred
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>>172476334
>outside of cforest decks that go full control and drop the roach and fairy packages entirely.

Yes, exactly, we get to still have the old forest decks but now we also get to have different forest decks that don't rely on those cards now since other combos are available. That's literally my entire point, that you can run a control list now without having to clog yourself with tokens for PtP or Roach combo. You get to make a CHOICE, rather than having no choice and just being forced to use what's new.

That's been my entire point all along, do ya get it now?
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>>172473415
-Play nip mahjong
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>>172476973
oh shit dude, i'm watching it right now
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>>172473415
>Watch a movie/anime
Someone recommend me a movie to watch. I'm not picky.
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>>172477335
Iron Giant
>>172476973
>tfw you always try to win with daisangen and it never works
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>>172477335
the notebook
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>>172477335
american psycho
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dead general dead game
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>>172477335
Perfect Blue
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>>172477335
https://youtu.be/75aoPdWm4Hs
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>>172478164
what the fuck
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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