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/bbg/ nice feels edition

Fell through the Hamlet oceansky but didn't quite make it to the Whirligig: >>172273786

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/

/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
Every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules: a.pomf.cat/jzmnvh.jpg

/bbg/ Spelunking Club
Password=/bbg/
Create a new S/FRC chalice dungeon and beckon anons to join
OR
Use the Short Root Chalice with the password /bbg/ to be summoned or invade
(every Friday 6pm EST, anything goes)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne AR Calculator
http://pastebin.com/zGphv4fF
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That hunter....
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Im ringing. Pass is still bb.
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>>172435362
>cant argue against any point
>"a-autism!!"
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>>172436087
where and what for?
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>>172436087
Falcon, puuuuunch
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>>172436174
Idyll bloodlettingbeast. But be aware I suck.
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>>172436146
autism
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Anyone found gems like this?
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>>172436213
Im sorry. Ringing again.
>>172436247
Ihyll
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Your a beast man. Thanks a lot.
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>>172436690
:^)

Have a good hunt
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>>172436328
Yes, they go up to 6 if you get a 19 from watchers
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So I just discovered a room with four Great One Coldbloods in an FRC. I just got into doing them, so is this normal?
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>>172437072
FRCs contain all the weirdest shit. I think I was in that one, they're just on the ground in a treasure room, right?
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>>172437072
I've seen a room with 8 great ones wisdoms
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PURGE MEMES
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>>172437135
afaik two people cannot create the same dungeon from mats if both are playing online
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>>172437135
No, it was in a small room with a bell hanging from the ceiling. I also found a weird chest that I had never seen in any of the regular chalices earlier in.
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>>172437284
I thought maybe he was using a glyph, he didn't just make it, I've found the same thing before and it's neato
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>>172437508
Noice

What did the chest look like? Can you get a screencap?
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>>172437508
Also, I just made it from scratch a little bit ago.
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Why is the doll so cute ?
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>>172432930
It really is superior, although I wish poison, rapid poison, pulisng, finestrike, lethal, fool and other blood gem types were as viable as your average temperings/nourishings.
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>>172437660
Took one when I first saw it
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>>172438252
Bacause she loves you and you love her
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>>172438460
Oh those are only good on layer 4s
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>>172438460
I saw one of those while cooping with a random. No idea of what was inside.
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>>172438460
Damn, I've never seen one of those before
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Hmmmm
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>>172434528
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>>172438579
Yeah, iirc it had 2 backbones in it.
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>>172438808
japanese rooms sure are tiny
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first timer here when do I attempt chalice dungeons?
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What is it about the bonash set that mostly attracts shitters? Whenever I SRRC and the beckoner wears it, he'll mostly stand at the back throwing molotovs or doing nothing.
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>>172439223
the first one you get can be done immediately, keep going until you get stuck for a while, go back to story, go back to chalice when you feel ready
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>>172439230
>get in chalices early on
>looks like spooky scary skeleton
>big dumb hat

Hmm, I wonder
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>>172439230
Looks 2cool2spoopy to shitters who think they're playing a spooky Dracula game. Not mention they also 99% of the time have Ludwig's.
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>>172439708
Shit I got a lot of chalice dungeons to do then
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>>172438460
Literally never seen one of those.
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>>172439230
It feels exclusive because you don't get it in the main game.
>>172439794
>ludwigs
>with bone ash
The clipping drives me fucking nuts, why people do that.
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>>172439858
at max level (98) you can clear every chalice in a few hours, if you are overlevelled its a breeze until you get to an appropriate chalice, so dont worry too much
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>>172440217
98 is over leveled
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>>172440217
>>172440439
77 should be fine then right?
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>>172440439
i'd say 98 is appropriate for depth 5
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>>172440657
98 was made just so people could pick on 80 master race

80 is the true max level
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>>172438847
A best. Would touch giant doll nose 24/7.
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any eurofags here at /bbg/?
would be nice to hunt with some of you when I'm not at work
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>>172443201
england friendo here
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>>172443201
Eurofagge here, where you at?
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>>172443845
>>172443906
nice
sry, I just wanted to know, I'm not up right now but I will be later tonight
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>use SRRC
>summoned in less than a minute
>ring the bell myself and go grab some food
>noone arrives after 20 minutes
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Rate my powder keg build pls

BL80

50/10/30/25/9/6

I'm using the boom hammer, rifle spear, cannon and gating gun. Set is ashen hunter or charred hunter garb with a top hat.
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>>172446058
You don't need 50 Vit, you can get by with 45 and runes. Why BL 80?
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>>172446058
Nice build, but too much vitality, ID go for 41

Try using stake driver
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>>172446058
Get Str to fiddy then it's good. You could cut some out of Vit, 40 is the minimum you should keep it with 2 HP Runes.
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>>172447043
Oh and I would have min maxed Dex and went straight str and heavy abysalls
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The last 3 months has really legitimized ps4 as a platform

No longer a Bloodborne box
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>>172448076
What's been so significant in that time?
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>>172448259
Yakuza 0
gravity rush 2
HzD (lol)
Nioh
Kingdom hearts
MLB the show (lol)
Soon PERSONA 5
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I need more memes involving yharnam residents
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>>172448568
you mean already PERSONA 5
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>>172448568
Isn't FF15 also a exclusive?

For those who care about FF
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>make contact with ayy player
>he doesn't make contact me back
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>>172448076
Nioh, Gravity Rush, GGXrd Rev2
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>>172452834
That's unacceptable
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>>172452834
See, I have to keep Make Contact on my quick gestures menu to avoid offending you people.
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Why are you kissless losers still playing this game when DS3 has surpassed it in every way with the new DLC
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>>172453770
better combat which is the core mechanic
I got a girl pragnent whaddayoudo
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>>172453770
I don't have a bait picture saved but have this one
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>>172453770
>Only 2 areas, both of them very linear with huge swamps making up the majority of each
>4 bosses, one is yet another terrible dragon fight, one is a multiplayer gimmick that already doesn't work
>patches new content into the game that is cut
>2 good tracks on the ost

lol
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>>172454052
>>172454179
>>172454413
>replying to obvious b8
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>>172454413
>with huge swamps making up the majority of each
wait really?
I was contemplating buying the new DLC but fuck swamp areas, farron keep was bad enough.
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>>172455056
The dreg heap is two straight shots where you get chased by angels, that empties into a swamp, goes vertical for a minute and then dumps you by the boss. There's a very small area to the left of the start with barely anything in it

Ringed City is a straight path at first, goes down a shaft, becomes a straight path again and quickly empties into a really big swamp, probably twice the size of the other one. You head right into reused catacombs assets where you run in circles through a broken staircase puzzle. Then you go straight to the end, with a hidden passage on an elevator that takes you to the optional dragon boss. There are two shortcuts that take you to bonfires you already passed because the path wraps around. But the swamp is the only point where you can actually be off that path.
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>>172455056
Remember how Earthen Peak had all that poison?
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>>172456004
Jesus, how do you fuck up a DLC that bad after you make something as good as The Old Hunters?
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>>172457051
>people actually think Miyazaki CO directed ds3

He put his name on it for sales sake


Can't blame him, souls games lack microtransactions so it needs a every sale possible
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>>172457051
Let's compare the surrounding problems of each

>Miyazaki working on the last year of DS3's development in parallel
>Only a few months of development time, also needed to overhaul the online system

vs

>worse dev team
>Miyazaki working on multiple other projects at the same time and Tanimura doing directing work
>not enough time to do everything as is evident by cut content even though they had over a year working on both DLCs and a lot of the new stuff in this one is just repurposed or completely finished content that has been in the files since launch

TRC never had a chance
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>>172457765
Ds3 never had a chance
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>>172457765
>Tanimura and B Team will never have Kitamura's work ethic
>She will carry them through every game they ever work on
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SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>172458128
I love that I can't make shit out in that picture, fuckin Amygdala
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>tfw you want to make OC
>tfw you can't draw
Atleast editing pictures doesn't take too much talent.
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>>172458443
>exposition
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>>172457765
>just repurposed or completely finished content that has been in the files since launch
You know what REALLY pissed me off about this DLC? More than any of the other problems that were mentioned already?

They took the Firekeeper mask that was just sitting in there, completely usable, and made it into the Blindfold Mask. As in, they took the mesh and just retextured it. And the description even says
>This purple steel creation has a certain resemblance to the Fire Keeper's crown, but the similarity is purely cosmetic.

So we can never complete that set, ever. Instead we got some one piece horseshit that doesn't even have any story behind it.
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>>172457765
>>172458019
>vilifying tanimura when it's shibuya's fault das2 sucked ass
>defending hackazaki and attributing his shortcomings after DaS3 turned out to be meh to some mythical bee team
>when he also directed das1 half of which was shit
>when japan studio is the one that was involved in DeS and BB development which are also coincidentally the only games that are both innovating and consistent in quality
Memezaki and FROM in general are just a bunch of half-competent idea guys that have brilliant concept but always manage to fuck the execution up. After achieving success, they went on a powertrip and gave even less shits about being consistent in quality. They NEED a guiding hand and some kind of mentorship in order to make a good game.
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>>172458924
>and consistent in quality
not true, DS2 and ACV were consistently shit
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>Nov 2013

> I get ps4, my ds1 360 buddies all get xb1

>cmon anon ditch that ps4 and get xb1

>project beast leaks

>"there is no way this is just a ps4 game" "maybe timed exclusive"

>e3 2014 reveal, Bloodborne, Japan studio, fromsoft

>3 traded in xb1s for ps4s

Icing on cake MCC turned out blunder and the 4th friend came over

So good
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>>172458504
I'm ESL. Please no bully.
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>>172458423
Man, you have no idea.
I lack the precision to do the jump cheese strat so I just decided to cheese Amy's little stomps instead and hit her arms, which took ages since I do like 390 damage a hit. It was actually working out damn well but as always she/he/it/xir is a one hit wonder.
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>>172458443
just do it, anon. i do requests here occasionally, and i'm a beginner with minimal artistic talent. you're not going to get better at drawing if you don't draw. make your OC, anon, and even if it's shit then you've at least learned something
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>>172459035
Pretty sure Japan Studio was involved in neither of those, at least according to the wiki.
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>>172458924
This whole Miyazaki actually sucks meme needs to die already. DaS3 is absolutely his worst game but DeS,DaS,BB are all great with DaS being the weakest out of them.

DaS is circlejerked the most due to it being multiplat and where a bunch of youtube philosophers latched on to do "Game Design Study".
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>ds1 LITTERLY has cut on disc content from DeS
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>>172459958
It does due to it being slapdashed together on a basic bitch budget.

Gotta remember it was a risk to make these games back then and Bamco are a cancer of a publisher.
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>>172459942
>with DaS being the weakest out of them
>DaS3 is also underwhelming
>japan studio is the one that was involved in DeS and BB development
really grants you eyes
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>>172460110
Don't get me wrong JP studio with From is an amazing combo but calling Miyazaki a hack is plain wrong. The duder pretty much put fromsoft on the map. Also he elevated himself to the president of the company due to how much success he brought it.

Remember Sony came to him to make BB he didn't go to them.
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Anyone willing to help with logarius? I'll be ringing at the lamp
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>AotA introduced the restored cut content meme
>Crowns introduced the bloated HP meme
>AoA introduced the PVP DLC meme
>TRC introduced the bloated defense meme

What meme did TOH introduce?
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>>172460529
Pass?
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>>172460110
Ds1 is gaming bliss till you get Lord vessel, dlc is good too


Ds1 like BB is boring over leveled

BB level 15 till beat vicar, 25 till nightmare of mensis or dlc, level 50 max level

Ds1 level 25 till both bells rung, level 50 till beat sens, max level 65
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>>172460601
No password, just cainhurst
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>>172460545
Good DLC meme
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>>172460724
We won't be able to connect if we're outside each other's level ranges.
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>>172460756
It's not a meme if it couldn't force it
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>>172460789
I'm 66. No bully
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>>172460545
>Memelight sword
>weayynow meme
>beastclawsstillshit meme
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>>172460897
No, I don't mind your BL. I'm saying that it's far easier (and faster) to connect with a password. How will I know it's you if I ring without? If you don't set a pass, I can't help you.
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>>172461010
Password is bbg
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I need help With this Faggot in Great Ihyll, glyph is kecz, password is bbg
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>>172461480
Who?
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>>172461010
>>172461412
can i come?
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>>172461010
Thanks m8
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>>172461771
King Hmph, so layer 1
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>>172461779
Already done
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Why is fake Iosefka so cute? Why she has a cainhurst invitation? Why she wear no shoes? Is she kin(weak to lightning/thrust/righteous)? Where is her baby? Why does her corpse vanish after we kill her? Why if we kill her and then send the beggar to the clinic, he still turns into ayy? How the fuck she overpowered a fucking thunderstorm beast? How the fuck that huge electric body of beast turned into a small skinny ayy?
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>>172461853
On my way.
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>>172461959
>Why is fake Iosefka so cute?
Real Iosefka was better
>Why she has a cainhurst invitation?
That was outs m8, because spooky Pthumerian magics
>Why she wear no shoes?
Sneeki breeki, also shoes are for insightless beasts
>Is she kin(weak to lightning/thrust/righteous)?
No, just a human Choir sluglord memeber
>Where is her baby?
In her belly, silly
>Why does her corpse vanish after we kill her?
Thrust damage is effective
>Why if we kill her and then send the beggar to the clinic, he still turns into ayy?
Legitimate oversight, I think
>How the fuck she overpowered a fucking thunderstorm beast?
Well, she got him before he popped into an Abbo and shot him up fulla ayy juice
>How the fuck that huge electric body of beast turned into a small skinny ayy?
The Choir is really fucked up and do messed up shit
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How do I get the most damage out of a charged (R2) Stake Driver attack ?

>Stats, gems and consumables etc
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>>172462020
This netcode wait time...
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>>172461853
By any chance, are you at the fog or the lamp? And you're set to Worldwide?
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>>172462491
World wide, at the fog.
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>>172462398
Probably 99 Str, 99 Skl, high beasthood and hp based gems, because they go up to 35% iirc and bolt or fire paper.
Or maybe a fire stake driver with 99 Arc hitting a target that got hit by an oil urn. But I think the phys one is stronger. It also depends on the enemies defence and where you hit them.
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>>172463832
Wouldn't cursed striking gems be better?
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I miss castlevania HD
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>>172464858
Just go through Cainhurst with the cane m88
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>>172464828
Striking goes lower than Poorman's
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>>172466418
;__;
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Does item discovery affects the quality of the gem I get from a chalice boss?
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>>172467658
No.
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I hate how if there is a slightly bump in the wall and you touch it, you already get stuck
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I hate how untricked amyarm charged R2 doesn't followup on some mobs despite the club clipping right through their body.
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>>172468990
>walk into a breakable object
>you have to hit or roll to get past them
It makes sense but it annoys me
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>>172435803
>not the updated version
>I'm not included
I'm sad.
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>>172470128
I don't think he posted the updated one yet, anon, don't worry.
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Is dungeon coop search always slow or it might be my connection?
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>>172470201
>>172293782
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>>172470201
He did
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>>172470304
BL? Where u at? Password?
I'll come maybe
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>>172469421
the amy arm is so fucking cool but it's disappointing too, much like the logarius wheel

>slow
>gets boring fast in untricked mode
>the range is deceptive and lackluster once you use it for more than 5 minutes
>feel really open and susceptible to damage in tricked mode if you're not careful

I went back to the church pick and burial blade after a couple of runs with it.
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>>172470304
I think it's always slow, same with the sinister search
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>>172470987
Log wheel 1 handed is amazing....

>pure blunt damage so 32.6 up
>DAT r2 spin corner bully
>DAT incredible jump attack hit box
>scales pretty much only with str so feel free to pump tinge for your fast attack option with bma
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>>172470987
Amy arm is best for twinks 9% + flat arcane/ 8% nourishing + flat arcane
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>>172470747
Trying to find others to help them at the makeshift altar but it takes ages
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>>172471738
Blood Level?
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>>172471643
>he doesn't have a bl43 character with watcher gems for a twink
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>>172471825
105
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>>172471849
The flats are better

I invade cainhurst by the dining room

>extended charge attack thru paper thin walls
>massive 3 hit combo with all that flat arcane

23.6 nourishings are nifty for the blunt mode tho
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>>172470987
Dunno my man, I think it's pretty amazing, maybe you're just not much of a STR guy.
The attack arc in tricked is incredible, I struggle to think of a weapon that deals better with huge packs of mobs. The side/back dashing attacks in trick mode cover a lot of range, and untricked forward ones are almost as fast as wheeldash. I also don't understand why would you call it's range deceptive or lackluster when there is only a handful weapons with similar reach.
Overall it's definitely my favourite STR weapon.
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>>172470525
>>172470742
Oh dear...
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>>172472379
Its AR is pretty shitty tho

It could be amazing if the tricked mode was blunt
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>>172470987
Looks like someone's WRONG

Really, Amy Arm is fuckin great.
>vertical smashes untricked useful for dealing with shit like gutworms
>tricked swings are wide and make mince meat of mobs
>charged R2 pancakes and hits three times
>satisfying sounds
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>>172472657
Pop a beast pellet if you're not a pussiboi.
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>>172472737
Also
>charged R2 follow up ALWAYS catch at least 3 people per fc
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>>172472737
You forgot how CHUNKY the tricked into untricked transformation attack is with its usage of tension force. Half of the time it hits so hard that enemies fall through the floor.
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>bloodletting beast worm attacks me straight through the pillar

seriously

fuck this boss
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See it's tough to have arguments about weapons in bloodborne because all the fans of said weapon in the thread immideatly activate and barrage you with (You)s, and they're not even wrong because most weapons actually have something good and unique to them. Except tonitrus noone really likes tonitrus.
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>>172473639
Beast claws
Boom hammer
Blades of Mercy

All shit
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>>172473639
Tonitrus was fun on my anime tesla build
I did end up switching to the MLS at some point though
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>>172473639
>>172473836
U wat
All weapons in this game are good except Fist of Gratia
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>>172473836
youre shit
cunt
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>>172459942
>DaS being the weakest
Nice meme.
Well of course, depends on what you mean by "weakest".
Bloodborne and DeS share the most qualities gameplay wise and I really adore how DeS and BB did checkpointing, but I think Dark Souls 1 had hands down the best designed game world, with BB as number two.

In terms of the setting and atmosphere it just comes down to what you prefer.
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>>172473991
>Dark Souls 1 had hands down the best designed first half of the game
FTFY
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why has there been a huge increase in dark souls trash coming here over the past like week or so?
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>noanon can name any compelling reason to dispute the shitness of

BoM
Boom hammer
Beast Claws

Face it, they are all garbage teir
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>STR scaling +65
>Add physical ATK+15
>ATK DOWN -8.8%
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>>172474219
second and last ds3 dlc came out the other day
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>>172474267
They're fun.
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>>172474267
Boom hammer is really fun in PvE imhofam.
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Why does it matter the Chikage is better than all of them.
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>>172474336
but why are they coming here
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>>172474464
Chikage is almost as bad as Ludwig's sword for pvp
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>>172459958
So?
Placeholders, bro. DS3 has unused DaS2 shit on disk and straight up reused Bloodborne assets.

Bloodborne also took inspiration from some DaS2 stuff clearly :
Memestial Memenary follows pretty much the exact same formula as Royal Rat Vanguard, they brought back the oil urns and the torch and used them well. Merciless Watchers are also pretty straight up "inspired" by the artificial undead in DS2.
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>>172473836
>>172474267
>Boom Hammer
One Shot Wonder: STR edition
>BoM
Dashspam against newbies is legitimately fun
>Beast Claws
Beasthood is a fun mechanic and the beast embrace claws is the fastest way to stack it.
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>>172474464
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>>172474464
Meh range, boring moveset, used by legitimate, canonic cuckolds.
The last part is especially important.
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>>172474707
I'm not compelled
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>try to pick Ritual Blood (5)
>max limit reached

the.... gems....
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>tfw /dsg/ faggots so cucked by FROM that they make vilcucks look alpha
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>>172474138
Nice meme.

Catacombs+Totg and Demon Ruins+Lost Izalith are complete and good enough to be whole "worlds" in DeS, Darkroot garden, Dukes, New Londo Ruins are great individual levels and the DLC is fucking awesome.

Depending on what order you want to do stuff you might also count Painted World to post-AL or not.
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>>172473639
Nah it can deliver absolutely fucking disgusting bolt damage with gud gems
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>ds3 dlc
i can't enjoy it at all, it just makes me want to play BB again
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>>172474471
/dsg/ needs to project its repressed disappointment in its Contractual Obligation Souls 3 DLC.
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>even the swamp in Bloodborne is good
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>autistic enough that i spend all my timeindoors playing games, bloodborne mainly
>not autistic enough to want to farm top tier gems
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Need some clarification about PSN accounts :

Can I just shit out as many PSN accounts as I feel like or are my games locked into a single account (I have BB GOTY)?

Second : I want to stream Bloodborne and I want to do it via PS4's streaming system but will this compromise my privacy?
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>>172475745
>I want to stream
>I want privacy

Nigga.....
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Does anyone want to help me speed through the chalices? Starting at central pthumeru and ending after Isz.
Pass is bbg for those interested
On layer 2
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>>172475882
Blood level?
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alright, first layer of the defiled chalice isn't that bad. keeper of the old lords got me but I underestimated him. I also got an odd gem for +36attk? that's pretty damn good
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Anybody wanna go through Defiled Pthu con migo?

pw is Powerade
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>>172476068
Sure thing, just let me boot up.
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>>172476068
Blood level?
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I just beat the Wet Nurse

Can I still go back to fight the Brain of Memphis? I hope I didn't miss out on getting the last moon rune
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>>172475867
What I mean is that I don't want to compromise my real name, or have the service display my email to the stream. Are there any downsides to giving your PSN a wrong name and does the system censor your private info if you get messages while strimming etc?
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>>172476004
73
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>>172476118

k

>>172476134

75
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>>172476336
Too high tbqh
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>>172476213
>Brain of Memphis
>mfw

You can, make sure you've been to Upper Cathedral Ward and gotten Make Contact
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>>172476409
I just want to finish this quick.
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I got killed by the Maneater Boar in Hintertomb. How will I kill myself irl to cope with the shame?
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>>172476767
Overdose on lithium
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>>172476767
Bloodletter L1.
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>>172474219
Crossposter here :
I used to browse both /dsg/ and /bbg/ but /dsg/ is full of /v/tards because fresh dlc release and the general has been steadily sucking dick anyway so I'm a full time /bbg/ poster now.

>>172460545
TOH weapons were sorely needed to make up for the lack of weapon variety of the base game.
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>>172477732
I only use 1 dlc weapon tbqh
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Does anyone want to kill chalice rom with me?
Pass: bbg
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>>172479221
Ringing
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>>172479221
Fog or lamp?
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>>172458924
>mythical b team
This has been confirmed a long time since. Miyazaki works closely with 7 directors whom he tasks with coming up with ideas/themes/whatever and then he approves or rejects their ideas or fine-tunes them. Those 7 directors along with Miyazaki are largely responsible for the creative decisions with the games. Those directors, along with Miyazaki himself were absent from DaS2 and present in DeS, DaS1 and presumably Bloodborne. The majority of the team stayed the same from DeS to DS2 but the people who were the same were rank and file code monkeys, not the actual creative minds.

I like DS2 for what it is, but the "B-team" is true.
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>>172479732
Lamp
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>>172479852
Haven't picked up any bell. Is there a fog wall at the elevator to the previous layer?
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>>172480098
Now there is
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>>172480225
Well, at least something is going through.
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>>172480225
Are you the specter in Black Church garb? Also, have you tried restarting? Doesn't look like we'll be able to connect.
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>>172480530
Let me restart my PS4
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>>172480743
I'm seeing that guy as well. I'm in the student garbs. Are you the guy with the threaded cane?
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>>172480921
No, m8, I have a Burial Blade. I'm seeing another specter with a Hunter Axe, though.
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>>172481090
I think you have become the new Hibiki. I've seen you mentioned more lately
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>>172481459
No, would Hibiki do THIS?
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>>172481627
No, but he definitely gets crushed by a boulder trap
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Anyone down for Defiled Amy in Pthu? PW is Powerade
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Ludwig is destroying me for some reason this playthrough

:<
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>>172482079
Still ringing?
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>>172482332

yup
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>>172482095
Do you need help?
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>>172482597
I'm coming
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>>172482795
Probably. I keep getting him low in second phase and dying to dumb stuff or somehow miss timing my dodge on his charge. Pass is tea at the nightmare church lamp
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>>172482883
Give me a second, because for some reason, I seem to have forgot about the dlc in this guy. Let me run over there
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>>172482883
Meant for
>>172482660
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>>172475607
Which Swamp, Nightmeme Frontier?
It's alright, the swamp isn't that large and the level itself is good, compact with two physical shortcuts you can unlock, vertical elements, areas laid on top of each other, neat visual design and a good bossfight.

Although I miss the shantytown design of DeS / DS1, but Fishing Hamlet is like full Shantytown.

Design-wise :
VoD > Nightmeme > Blighttown > Farron Keep > The Gutter

Atmosphere-wise :
VoD > Blighttown > Nightmeme > The Gutter > Farron Keep
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Looking for some help for Micolash. Standing outside the fog, password is bbg.
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>>172483091
Ringing
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>>172483394
Ah shit lemme boot up
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>>172483091
Well, he completely ignored me.
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Guy who was bitching hardcore about Ludwig the other night here. Five times I tried facing him tonight, and all five times he killed me with his jump while I was running away. I dont stand a chance. Im done with this game. Im just done. Im beyond disheartened. Taking it to my LGS tomorrow and getting a different game. Whats the point of dodging and being methodical when he can just wipe me out just like that. Theres no point to any of this.
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>>172483394
I've already raised the bridge, so I'll just ring right before it
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>>172484063
Thanks a bunch. You are certainly one rude dude
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>>172483961
Tha ks the extra targets all i really need for killing him apparently.
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>>172483224
I feel people don't take the time to really notice the Nightmare Frontier. There's some little bits here and there that make it really interesting and definitely bump it atmosphere-wise.

First is the general geography - it seems to be propped up by nothing amidst an endless bank of cloud with mountains in the distance. At the base of the platforms are what look like tree roots or something, but what does that imply? Uprooted landmasses, or are they actually connected to other places? Which of course, the latter is true. We can see the Hamlet's ships below and Mensis in the distance, so all of a sudden, space stops making sense.

There's the native inhabitants - Crawlers and 'Lost Children', whose name alone has a ton of implications - and, I think, the apparent fact that poison is a Nightmare thing. There's also the little trouble of the native architecture, I've never seen anyone mention the flesh graves or the carven tower Amygdala's perched upon. Something built that, there was not just life but civilization here and it's totally unique.

Fuckin LOVE the Nightmare Frontier. The name is great, too, because it's a frontier, it's an unexplored wilderness, but there's stuff there, structures like a tower and elevator.
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>>172484613
Why didn't you spam the glove first phase? He gets more arcane resistance in second phase. Anywho, thanks for having me m8. I love fighting Ludwig.
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>>172484053
Anon please let me come lend a hand, it took me 40+ tries to beat Ludwig but I fuckin did it. His jump is bullshit, for sure, it's hard to dodge, but you can beat him.
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>>172484779
It does crap damage in both phases desu but so i used it when i wasnt 100% sure on going in
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>>172484053
>5 times I tried
Lmao, I put in like 100 tries in Ludwig and all of his attacks can be dodged. Even if you don't see him, you can hear his screams and time accordingly from that.

>what's the point of being methodical?
Ah, still clinging to your Dark Souls mindset? Bloodborne relies more on reaction so work on recognizing his tells and the dodge timings. Or choose the coward's way out.
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>>172484053
Don't give up, I know you can do it. It's a very hard fight but that just makes defeating him that much sweeter. I know several of us would be willing to offer help and give tips.

Which leaping attack is he killing you with, the one where he clings to the ceiling for a while?
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>>172484635
When you look out in the distance from Mergo's Loft, can you see landmarks of the Frontier or the other way around?
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>>172484053
There's no better feeling in gaming than beating something that was impossible just a few minutes before.

Keep that in mind.
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>>172484791
>>172485103
>>172485256

I got him down to 1/6 health and my weapon broke. Im done. Time to kill myself. Fuck this game.
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>>172485719
What a shitty time for that to happen. However you can't blame the game for it, it's always good to keep your weapon repaired. Every 2-3 times you go back to the Dream is a good time to repair, especially if you have a fragile weapon.
I still don't think you should give up, though it's probably not a bad idea to take a break for a while. No one has ever performed better when stressed out and angry.
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>>172485719
If you got him to that low health, you can do it. I think his second phase is actually easier.
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>>172485719
Kill some mooks, repair your weapon, anon.

Tell us, what weapon are you using? What're your stats right now? I just ask because the DLC is pretty end game content and you might be going in a bit underlevelled.
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>>172486304
>>172486380

I got him to 2nd phase 3 of my last 4 tries. What should my strategy be for 2nd phase? I try to get behind him while locked on and he gets me with his 270 degree mega-swipes. Im done trying for tonight.
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what level do i stop leveling at? how does it affect the level of players who are able to invade me? id like it to where i can get as close to the max invade level as possible, if that makes sense

also
>the zombie pounding on the gate before ludwig, who is he? what does he drop? its invisible when im in other peoples world so i know its some sort of interactionable NPC
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>>172486651

BL75, doing a 25/50 STR-ARC build. Using a +7 Saw Spear with Fire Gems in it. 142 damage with around 183 Fire dmg
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I put on the church robes and answered No to Ludwig on purpose
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>>172486716
He's just a poor sap that drops five vials. He respawns too, no reasons not to kill him.
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>>172486665
Dodge and punish. His swipes are timed so that dodging wildly will get you killed, but once you figure out the timing you'll have no problem and you'll get the added bonus of feeling like a pro. When he points his sword upwards get behind him.

>>172486813
Your weapon is also a bit underleveled. Try going through more of the story to get some more chunks to bring that to +9 or +10.
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>>172487093

Well fuck. I have a Whirligig that is higher level. Would that be effective against him if I slapped fire gems in it? Or too slow?
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>>172487272
Yeah, that'd be effective. Serrated + Fire leads to good damage. No reason not to try it out next time you play.
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>>172486716
Stop at 120 if you want to be at the same level as most people who play multiplayer.

Stop at 98 if you want to follow the tards.
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>>172487490

>watching videos of people slicing him up with Whirli's L2

d-does this really work?
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>>172487957
Better off host
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>>172487957
Yeah. Though it's also likely done with a physical setup using beast blood pellet, which leads to insane damage. And also like >>172488061 said it's safer when done as a cooperator rather than as the host.
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>>172487272
Whirligig is a strength weapon and is way more devastating than the saw spear. if you can get it to +8, you'll be golden
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>>172488061
>>172488258

Im not doing this shit co-op, doing it solo. Think my strategy gonna be run through Yahargul, beat One Reborn and then try to get my Whirli to +9 or +10 with the Chunks I snag. Im not doing a full STR build, but I still find the Whirli effective with fire gems on my ARC points
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>>172488494
There's plenty of chunks in Yahar'gul, also, the cave down the way from the bloodlickers, past the carriage, has a crawler with some chunks if you didn't get that. But for the love of God don't go into the cave just yet.
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>Spent 50 insight on npc summons to defeat Defiled Watchdog.
Im not going to make it lads.
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>>172489571
You're best summoning a human cooperator, anon.
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>>172489571
BL?
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>>172489571
>summons
Stop doing that. I'm being serious, Defiled bosses are harder with summons.
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>>172489571
Summons make it harder and inflate its health. Just use a weapon with decent range to aim for its head. Once it breaks, you'll be doing way more damage.
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>>172489571
Can't blame you, I had a lot of trouble with that fucker early on. Stay back, watch his patterns, and bop him on the nose when he's between attacks. He telegraphs the shit out of everything you're just too impatient.
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>mass effect devs are teasing making plans to fix mass effect Andromeda over the coming months

Gaming hits new highs every year
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>>172487526
can you elaborate?

im trying to minimize the level gap between my potential invader and myself
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>>172484635
I like this in-depth "analysis" of the area. You done more for other areas?
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>>172490612
120 is the accepted meta. Most of us stop there for BBG FC and it's where most people stop when you check out other groups that have FCs. The vast majority of people. 98 is touted by a few specific tards and some very special tards go way past 120
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>>172490773
im not who youre replying to

but there is endless lore.

start by reading redgraves revised paleblood hunt.
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>>172490974
>120

>accepted

Have not seen much level 120 builds shared on bbg for a year
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>>172491090
You should have looked a little more closely.
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>>172490773
Glad you liked it, anon, I love rambling about cool shit. I kind of just wrote that up on the spot because I think Nightmare Frontier deserves better.

Off the top of my head, there's all kinds of details about every area, but there's incredibly long-winded and sometimes interesting videos for that. I learned a lot about Hemwick from one of them, one thing I never noticed was all the fog isn't fog - it's smoke coming out pipes in the ground, because they're burning stuff, maybe bodies.

There's also more to my theory that poison is a Nightmare thing - the Forbidden Woods have a bunch of Nightmarish stuff in them, although I don't have the game open right now, I know for sure there's those colossal graves everywhere and I'm maybe 90% positive there's smaller grave like you find the Frontier. I think that's evidence that the Lecture Hall was displaced or gobbled up by the Nightmare and that kind of stuff is just a mark it leaves behind, perhaps of when Byrgenwerth subsumed it into the Nightmare. Just leaves behind a mark. Furthermore, the goddamn snakes - I am positive snakes are Nightmare inhabitants. For one, the Madaras Whistle mentions summoning a giant snake from the Nightmare. Secondly, if there are Nightmare remnants left in the Woods - probably from Byrgenwerth experiments - it explains the snakes being there, maybe they were brought out, cultivated, but Byrgenwerth is lost now, and they've gone rampant. Lastly, snakes poison you. The only difference between venom and poison is venom comes from an animal, poison comes from a plant or other chemical. So, along with the big ass poison swamp in the Frontier, my grand assumption is snakes are Nightmare natives. Lotta text for such a small assertion, but what's /bbg/ without some lorefagging?
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>>172489571
Stop summoning and poke its face to death. Really easy once you memorize the moveset
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If I'm going for 25 Str 50 Skl, can I still use the Stake Driver, since it has equal scaling in Str and Skl? Or is there a better way to use it?
I haven't used it extensively in a long time, and just wanted to use it again.
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Does anyone want to help a brother out with Orphan? I'm kinda off my game and my attempt at a Rifle Spear run isn't the greatest. The pass is "bbg".
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>>172492137
Lamp or fog?
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>>172492201
fog.
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>>172491590
Interesting stuff but the poison is probably because they don't make any distinction between "venom" and "poison" in the other games either, poison is just a catch-all for the status effect.

As far as the Lecture Hall goes, you think it used to be where the Shadows of Yharnam bossfight was? Quite possible, as there are no other places nearby where such a large structure would fit imo.

I'm personally a bit torn on whether I would've liked to see the Byrgenwerth as a place where you could phtsically walk the grounds of the Lecture hall as you can do with the deanery but at the same time I think things are the best the way they were in the game.
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>tfw beaten the game eight times
>tfw run through the worst of the chalices there are
>tfw have fully gemmed out builds
>tfw still adore the gameplay, lore, and atmosphere the game so masterfully crafts together
>tfw try a run after not playing for four months and get my shit pushed in at Forbidden Forest.

Jesus aych christ

Still amazing, gonna have to renew my PSN subscription and play with you fags.

y-you guys will never quit, right
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Thanks a ton, Segalt!
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>>172491590
The Shadows of Yharnam summon big black dicksnakes out of the ground in the Forbidden woods. The Shadows are also the same as the enemies found in Nightmare of Mensis. Coincidence? I think not.
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>>172493508
Fuck off vilecuck
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>>172492568
>As far as the Lecture Hall goes, you think it used to be where the Shadows of Yharnam bossfight was? Quite possible, as there are no other places nearby where such a large structure would fit imo.

Definitely. It may have branched out a little more, too, it's fairly sizable. But we also have to remember that Byrgenwerth was a considerable amount of time ago, we don't know how long (my guess is centuries, maybe two, for stuff like beasts and blood to become to utterly normalized and integrated in Yharnam culture) and the woods have likely overgrown to the point of being unrecognizable. Hell, a village has grown up around the woods. I imagine back during Byrgenwerth's days, it was a lot more controlled. I like to think it resembled pic related (John Atkinson Grimshaw is a pretty unknown Victorian painter who did some equally atmospheric stuff, might do a dump some time if people are interested, there's some Bloodborne looking environments), but these days, all that's left is the deanery and a tangled hellscape before it. Byrgenwerth had people and money, funding expeditions into the Labyrinths, hiring muscle to protect them and of course the entire Hamlet massacre. It must have had a fairy fancy layout rather than just the deanery/lunarium building.

And I sort of wish Byrgenwerth was bigger, too. Just a few overgrown gardens or walks, just some space before you reach the building. And I'd like to know what's under that hatch. I don't even want to go there, I just want to know what it is. Food storage? Drop into the Labyrinths? Willem's NEET cave?
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If anyone needs to push their twinks thru chalices, don't be afraid to ask, I'll join
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>35 vit
>99 arcane

Am I a madman?
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Well, at least I can consistently get Ludwig down to his 2nd phase now. However I can never get close enough to him to do any fucking damage. I get under him, and amazing From-magic still allows him to hit me with his swipes. I wish i could give up at this point, but my stubborn nature wont let me. This whole process has built up a deep, ingrained resentment towards this game. I wont even be proud when I beat him. Im just going to put the game in the case, and then put it on the shelf for good. I hate From and I hate Mizayaki more than anyone will ever know. I just want this to be over with. I would live a life of eternal damnation and torture just to have this over with. I hate this game in every sense of the word.
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>>172495570
Try summoning Valtr. Don't beat yourself up over it. It's alright if you can't get Ludwig. He's tough, but you're learning little by little.
He has good tracking during his second phase, and his attacks are slightly delayed. Don't get greedy.
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>>172495440
Well, as long as you're offering... I'm on layer three of Lower Pthumeru. I'll be beckoning shortly, pass will be champ.
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>>172494363
Byrgenwerth is COMFY AS FUCK and what you're describing would probably make it even comfier.

And yeah, as much as I like how levels in Bloodborne are compact, I think it would've been cool to get a bit more fat between the bones and maybe something like a little section where there's like a garden maze where you fight those plantmen.

>Willem's NEET cave?
He's got a conversation circle on Ancient Pthumerian iconography with other Byrgenwerth scholars in the basement. I bet they also have comfy couches and drinks on hand.
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>>172495724

I can beat him easily with Valtr. That isnt the point. I want to say I beat him
by myself. But i dont think its ever going to happen.
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>>172495816
Omw lololkol
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>>172496013
>tfw I use my level 50 to pull in cooperators on ng+++ just so they die super fast and I get a buffed boss all time myself
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Did we beat ROM?
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>>172495547
Aren't arcane gems one of the worst to farm?
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>>172496020
>>172496585
Thanks m8. Want to help out against Bloodletting Beast too?
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>>172496703
I'm here all night, I'm almost 999:59:59
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I'm so bad lolololil
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>getting my ass handed to by Bloodletting Beast while farming abyssals
>each abyssal takes 1 hour
>I need the perfect secondary effect AND a decent curse
> ATK DOWN -8.8%
> ATK DOWN -8.8%
> ATK DOWN -8.8%

Someone be kind to me and put a bullet in my head
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>>172496607
Yes, it's hell.
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>>172496013
You'll never defeat him only if you think you'll never defeat him. You're learning the fight, slower than you'd like but you're still learning. Try taking a break and playing something comfy for a while and come back to the fight with a fresh mind.
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>>172497080
I got arrowed
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>>172497080
You'll keep telling yourself that and it will agonize you up until you feel that glimmer of hope when you know you have the opportunity to kill him. Take it from an anon who spent two good days bitching in here until I finally fucked him up all on my own and got a perfect recording of it as a memory. It was well worth the struggle. Soon enough you'll be able to fight him blind, and it'll be amazing.
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So, its harder to parry people in PVP in bloodborne because everything is just faster right?
I have a harder time parrying people than I do in Souls.
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>>172497601
Lol!
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>>172497080
>>172497634 here, I thought you were the one bitching about Ludwig, sorry. Still, Ludwiganon, listen to me.
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If you think Ludwig is hard wait till you fight Living Failures. Ludwig took me about 20 tries but failures took me whole night.
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>>172495930
>maybe something like a little section where there's like a garden maze

This is a great idea, actually. They could even have a hedge labyrinth which would carry a ton of symbolism. Mazes are, well, mazes, they have pointless loops and dead ends, but labyrinths led somewhere, they had a structure and were used for sort of spiritual purposes, namely reflection and rebirth. Wandering creatures that induce frenzy in a structure designed for metaphorical insight and rebirth? Or it was once a labyrinth, but time has reduced to an overgrown, rotten maze.

Those big couch circles on the upper floor spring to mind. Imagine just lounging there, talking about cool cosmic shit before it all went to hell. Chatting into the wee hours of new ideas of higher planes, getting smashed on fine rustic brandy from soon-to-be Yharnam.
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>>172497712
I'd say it's a combination of the speed of the fights, time to raise your gun, and the travel time of the bullet. Lag doesn't help either.
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My cousin told me xbox scorpio will be able to play ps4 games, is that true?
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>>172497717
Lower Hintertombs next my dude, gotta get the Madman Manchettes for fashion.
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>>172498251
:^)
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>>172498076
it can play dreamcast games
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>gets summoned

>lags out


Hmmmmmm
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:^) covering fire
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>>172499367
Got the gloves, Ailing Loran now.
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What are my chances in the FC with okay gems
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>>172499481
Okay :^)
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>>172499515
Define "okay gems".
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>>172499584
2 radial 1 triangle, all +27%
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>>172499738
Those aren't "okay gems". The 27.2% gems are the highest from Watchers. These gems and others like it are exactly the kind you'd see people use in the FCs.
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>>172499865
Still very far from a perfect abyssal or blunt +31%
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>>172499939
>blunt +31%
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>>172499939
No, not every weapon benefits from perfect abyssals or adept gems. 27.2% is literally the highest Tempering you can get. And in many cases a 27.2% Bolt gem will actually be better than a Bolt Abyssal.
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>>172500141
You realize this only serves as an inspiration? If you did it, so can I. Now I won't stop until I got 3 32.6%
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>>172499939
>>172499738
t. beastly idiot
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>>172500292
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>>172500141
>>172500474
My dude

There's a screenshot button
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>>172500474
There's something very wrong about this picture but I can't tell what
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>>172500561
I used too much tor on my laptop so I has to offload it


My gaming PC don't go online
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>>172500651
Had to*
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>>172500145
Well it's for the Kirkhammer so a perfect abyssal + 2 blunts would be the best combination
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We still doing Loran? Lol
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Question:

Wouldn't 3 Blunt also work for Holy Moonlight Sword?
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any advice on using kos parasite? A bit surprised at how slow it is, and even though I have the uncanny one at +10 it doesn't do as much damage as I'd like. I only have one arcane gem on it though, since that's all I have
but any advice anyway for actual use
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>>172501087
Some of the moveset, ya
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Ok guys, here are some stats from my 800 runs of farming BLT 31.5% out of shapes

8 Wanings(most of them were scaling BLT so they're not even good nor usable)
5 Triangles(3 was/is usable at 30.4%. 1 has kin down, the other 2 has beast down but i sold one cause i was salty it wasn't a 31.5)
2 Radials(both perfect 31.5% but one with ATK down and the other with hp -9 ofc)
~190 Ritual blood(5)
Didn't really keep track of when I got Blood vials/Bullets but it wasn't too bad, probably about 100 of the runs but maybe it was more.

I kept the 2 radials for salt purposes and I just got off work so I'm about to delve into 100 more I think. To all who delve the chalices and can endure the grind for Out of Shapes or Out of Effect gems, I salute you.

>mfw I think about the fact that I have to get TWO fucking radials
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>>172501564
>mfw blood weapons all are pretty mediocre
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>>172500963
Something came up, sorry. We'll have to postpone for another time.

Thanks for making it more bearable though! The chalice slog kills my will to make new builds.
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I've been told a Chikage run is the best possible, which can only mean I must have been doing it wrong. Is the damage that abysmal with no gems, even tricked at 50 BLT? I was hitting harder with an ungemmed Tonitrus on my 50 ARC build.
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>>172501987
Kk :^)

When u start again, type in thread, I might be here
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>>172501893
its for my bl43 blt twink
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>>172502162
How much vitality?
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>>172502009
Nah, Chikage is ass until you get gems, and even then it's not that good. It has high modifiers on the unzips, but the unzips are the only good moves it has. Doesn't help that it's a filthy Vileblood weapon.

Honestly, just use the Bloodletter. It's way better, doesn't drain your health, and isn't Vileblood trash to boot.
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>>172502234
7vit(base). i have 45blt and the bare minimum stats for chikago
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>>172490612
>>172490974
>>172491090

no one has touched the topic of minimizing the gap between your players level and potential invaders level. This is the cap im concerned with, not the de-facto agreement people abide by.

i want to know how the game functions.
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>>172502489
lol you will get 1 shoted by story gemed boneashed pistols

Even halfway upgraded canons without bma

Lmfao
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Who exactly were the Keeper Hunters, the NPCs in the dungeons wearing the Keeper Set? Legitimate Keepers in training? Hunters who just found the set and used it?
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>>172502663
Yea I do, but I've oneshotted MOST everyone I've invaded in frontier/woods/cainhurst with either an unzip or a BMAd repeater

My funniest death has to have been vs someone who had a Rosmarinus. I died in 2 ticks with both 10/15% HP runes. I wish I'd saved the replay.

Going through the chalices were fun though, and it was an incredibly awesome challenge doing it the whole way solo.

I love twinking, the routing, the gem farming RNG,I mean, I started to appreciate the bosses way more since I got to hear their music for longer because it would take me a bit longer to beat them.

And at the end of the day, I'm just OCD about it, my twink isn't a complete twink until I get those 2 perfect radials. You can't call it a twink if it's not minmaxed. I just love that aspect of it for some reason.
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>>172503330
>save editor out
>only works on JPN version
>makes you transfer your account to 3rd party
>overwrites your save with a 100% complete one
>no good gems

Just
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>>172503330
You can get tinge level 19s from watchers

They are rarer than 23.6 nourishings
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So I've killed Amidala and now I'm fighting Micolash, how far in the game am I?

Also can someone explain to me what is frenzy and how does it work? In nightmare frontier I just run past the eyeball monster
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>>172504148
i tried doing watchers on this build, its not very fun. my 7 vit makes this fight kinda difficult but maybe i just suck, or dont have a really good strat.

what do you mean by the lv19 tinge though? im looking at

http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/merciless-watchers-watcher-chieftain.html

and it doesnt even say they can drop it, unless the wiki is outdated
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>>172504714
It's extremely rare but possible, I've seen it (I got a 17 tinge from the boss)
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>>172501130
Spam dodge -> R1
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>>172504882
holy shit, so it would be 32.6% BLT up offshape with curse?
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>>172505542
It's like a 1% dif. It's incredibly rare

I got 4 nourishings before I even saw 1
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okay so if you die against unique enemies/hunters the game just handicaps them 9000x after you respawn the hold your little babby hand right? i feel like if i die once then the programming changes.
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>ps4pro
>Samsung evo 850
>boost mode
these load speeds
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>>172470742
Are you still adding more to it my duder?
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>>172506264
are there speed differences between hardcopy and digital download?
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>>172507467
Yes, disc get 3 secs more load time on average (disc spins up to authenticate randomly)
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>>172507642
brutal
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I like Ds3, BB,Ds1 and DeS alot
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>>172509748
DS3 is below average desu, or at least not to the standard of the other 3
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Haven't played BB in about a year. Is the online still active?
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>>172511908
My level 50 gets co-op in seconds in dlc
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>>172511908
yeah, it has a weird staying power that the other from games don't.
I'd imagine most of the meme ranges are dead by now though
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>>172512081
Nigga u dumb I get co-op in des all day @ level 30
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>>172511908
much more active than would be expected of a game like this 2 years after release
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>>172511695
Oh will you fuck off already
DS3 is better than BB, Gael is a much better boss than Orphan could ever hope to be
you'll accept it after a few more days
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>>172514815
nice b8
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>>172514815
>focus testing
>good
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>>172514815
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if i open a fresh frc in a bit would anyone be down for spelunking?
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Not sure I should be saying this

War with N Korea within 36 hours
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>>172516956
over bloodborne?
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>>172516956
>>172517187
>FROM not listening when i told them bloodborne could cause an international crisis
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>>172515659
If the offer's still up, I would.
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fresh loran frc made if anyone wants to join me for abit of spelunking
password is bbg793
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>its another lonely frc episode
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>>172520201
>>172520484
layer 2, still time to join if anyone wants to
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>>172506809
he hasnt been on for a while :(
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>its a died and cant find my blood echoes episode
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>>172520201
>>172520484
>>172520991
just on layer 2 boss if anyone wants to join
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>no gems that give you extra speed
>no "turbo" gems
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Just finished the game for the first time.

If I wanted to start a New Game with Skill and Arcane as my main stats, what would be a good build to go for?
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>>172514815
I like DaS3, but honestly it can fuck right off with it's 6 year old movesets and shitty animations copypasted from DaS1.
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About to start a SKL character with cane as the main and coins in the quick item menu, name will be Uncle Pennybags and will obviously be using top hat as soon as I get it. You should know what I am going for, any more ideas or tips such as what fashion or any more weapons I can use?
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>>172529414
>6 year old movesets and shitty animations copypasted from DaS1

You realize that Bloodborne recycles a bunch of shit straight from DeS?

>>172530517
>such as what fashion
Top hat+Knight's garb.

>any more weapons
Reiterpallasch is pretty fancypants weapon.
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>>172530517
evelyn is a /fancy/ gun and torch to set fire to poor people
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>>172531640
Yes but at least the movesets are interesting. BB's movesets are pretty much freshly made.

Even the straight sword parts of Memewigs and Kirk are both different than the previous games.
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>>172530517
Top hat + Hunter garb + Constable's trousers
What >>172531691 said for left hand
Use a monocle for extra fancy
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at50 arc and at +10 what would hunters torch be like?
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>>172532468
151 AR
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>>172528765
Skl/Arc isn't really a good idea since no weapon scales with both stats at the same time effectively (besides HMS, but it's more of a Str/Arc weapon). You're better off going Arc or Skill, maybe give your Arc build 20 Skill to use every Skill weapon convertable. Stuff with split damage like Reiter and BoM won't be usable though and are better reserved in a 50 Skill build. You could I suppose go 50/50 Skl/Arc if you don't mind going around 120 with base End, you can still manage to get 40 Vit which is decent as long as you've got 2 HP Runes.
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>>172533947
Ah I thought some weapons could scale with it decently. If not I'll probably just stick to Skill then, and leave Arcane for a later time.

Is 40 Vit something you're supposed to get? I left it at 25 in my first playthrough.
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>>172534162
40 is the minimum most recommend, 45 the sweetspot and 50 max unless you're Vit-gouging. It's mostly for PvP, NG+ Cycles and FRC where Vit really matters.
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>>172534162
on my str/arcbuild im at 41 and never had a problem
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>>172534341
>>172534603
Ah, so I can leave it until I hit NG+ then. I don't have online so PvP isn't a worry and I don't know what FRC is so that's fine. Thanks anons.
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>>172531756
Saw spear and Saw cleaver are pretty much straight from Souls tho'
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>>172531691
>torch to set fire to poor people
AWAY, AWAY
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*Blocks your path*
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>>172536991
Oops forgot pic
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>tfw just trawled through old threads to find the lewd maria story again
what have i become
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>>172537158
Lasts about two minutes in a Hunt.
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>>172536991
>>172537158
The effect is somewhat lessened lad
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>>172536359
No they ain't nothing in souls swings like them really unless you count all horizontal swings as being cloned.
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>>172537159
l-link?
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>>172537159
slightly more autistic than you were before you did that
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>>172538551
https://pastebin.com/RAajLv4P
>>172538714
rude desu
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>>172537158
The last game I bought from my now defunct rental chain store. Thought I'd get fancy watered down Bloodborne, I got a very pretty game for sure, but wow what a fucking snoozefest. Didn't even complete it.
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>>172538887
WHY
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>dying to a boss with 1-2 hits left until its dead
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>>172539719
The worst feeling
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>>172504375
You're fairly far into the game, he's one of the very last bosses.

What happens with those eyeball monsters (called Winter Lanterns) is if you're in their direct line of sight, they'll deal continuous damage and the little frenzy bar will continue to grow until it pops and you get dealt a significant amount of damage, which coupled with the line-of-sight thing, can kill instantly. However, if they see you and you run and hide, you'll stop taking continuous damage but the frenzy bar still grows. Depending on your frenzy resistance and amount of Insight, you'll have a bigger or smaller bar. Also, the Sedative item negates your frenzy build up altogether. It's instantaneous, and there's no lingering resistance. Lore-wise, Frenzy is mind rape - your mind has forbidden eldritch knowledge being forced inside of it, too much, and your brain explodes, literally.
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>>172540227
No, worst feeling is an OoS with attack down
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Can you reset trophy progress in Bloodborne without baleeting your saves? New to this PS4 thingy.
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>>172542754
You can't reset trophies
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>>172542609
I thank Kosm every day I'll never know this feeling
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>>172543816
Can I make a new PSN account then?
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>>172545447
Why wouldn't you be able to?
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>>172462398
Maxed thrust gems, bolt paper, 99 str and skill, full beasthood with Brador's full set plus full beast runes including embrace, all on an ayy for a backstab. That is what I can think of.
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Do I have to lock on Amy during the jump for the cheese strat or do I aim manually?
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>>172486841
No bully horsie
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>>172546560
The attack isn't Thrust, it's Blunt. Plus Poorman's and Charge Atk Up go higher, the former being the highest.
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>>172546778
Unlock, you could lock on at the last moment to direct your hit but you're better off doing it manually.
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Someone wants to help me with OoK bl43? Pass is bb. I'm at the fog gate.
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>>172548103
Disgusting twink
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>>172548103
>asking for help on a twink
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>>172548515
>>172549043
Help me and don't bully me ;_;
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>>172548515
>>172549043
The fuck is a twink?
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>>172549471
low level character built to destroy newbies at the game/ people who havnt properly made their character for that particular level. 43 is ideal
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>>172549471
Low level character with high end gear.
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>decide to grab echoes mid fight
>mash X
>character does the joy gesture
>die
Why does this shitty feature even exist, opening the gesture menu isn't that hard.
Is there a way to turn that shit off?
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>>172550228
No, just don't move whenever you press X. Shit sucks but there's no way to turn it off.
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>ATK down curse
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>>172458128
YEAH
SMELL THAT AIR
CANT YOU JUST DRINK IT LIKE PUNGENT COCKTAIL?
>>172547560
In the end, I fought amy normally and only used the jump cheese at the end because I realized she loses the attacks that target the space behind her back once she rips off her arms.
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>>172550984
What is the purpose of this even existing? Other curses make sense as a trade off, high damage but more stamina consumption, high damage and weapon breaks more often, but instead it's just 'here is your gem, except now worse with nothing going for it'. What the fuck, lads?
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>>172551460
Yeah the last phase is the best time to jump cheese, Amy is pretty stubborn before the arm-ripping. Congrats Anon
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>savescumming cold abyssals
>not a singlecold abyssal
:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)
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Thinking of making a bloodletter twink, is it any good with oos BT gems on 16 BT?
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>>172552384
Yes
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>>172548103
Someone please.
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>>172552724
seeing as you asked nicely il give it a whirligig saw
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>>172552797
Thanks a lot.
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>>172552935
il be there in a min
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>>172552724
I can help later, in bout an hour
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>>172552935
can you ring at the lamp cos i havnt got round to opening the shortcut on this character yet
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>>172553086
If we didn't beat him till then I appreciate your help.
>>172553297
sure.
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>>172553318
this downscaling really isnt cool, getting hardly any damage output
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>>172553732
Im sorry. Do you still want to help?
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>>172553878
yeah we can try for abit
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>>172554104
Thanks.
>>
chikages health drain be a harsh mistriss
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>>172554191
keep forgetting chikages r2 doesnt do enough damage to warrant the risk of the health drain when downscaled
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>>172492135
I know this reply's late, but yes, the Stake Driver's scaling is totally even so that'd be fine.
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>>172555481
I tested it out, and it's slightly more viable at 50 Str and 25 Skl, by a margin of three or so points. But with that small of a difference, it doesn't seem like it matters all that much.
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>>172552623
thanks, thinking of doing my first bl4 run and farming all the good gems on it, Planning to stay at bl4 until I feel like twinking and savescumming my blechoes for quick level ups to 43, is that doable?
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Thanks. You are a beast.
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>>172555825
Yes, but Military Vet would be a better starter for Letter.
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>>172555965
saving the pistol and bonemarrow ash for the last part i think was the key
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>>172556017
thank you but I'd like it to be flexible enough in stat distribution to be able to use any weapon. I think bl4 would be best?
>>
>roaming pth descendants
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>>172556324
It's either that or Noble Scion, since you're going for Letter then Scion is best since it has the lowest End. WoS is better if you don't plan on leveling Skl, Letter doesn't need any.
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>>172556590
>ever using noble scion
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>>172556590
thanks but I'm not specifically focused on the bloodletter. I was just curious if base bt was good enough for real damage or if stat points in bt is what makes those weapons.
just trying to plan out my bl4 to be a jack of all twinks. don't really have the time to make multiple twinks so I think this is my best bet.
Though farming for gems will be REAL interesting at bl4. I've only farmed gems on a 80-98
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>there are people who dont use a bolt saif
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>>172556358
This genuinely unsettles me
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>>172557112
It's still possible to take the Spark Hunter mantle, and not be tied down to the Tonitrus. The Beast Claw is technically an option, given the Darkbeast obsession.
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>>172557161
its definetly not cool
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>>172556935
Yeah gems make up most of your damage and it's doable at BL4. Base requirements to use every right-hand weapon is 20/20/16/20, only Scion can fit that into 43. 20 Str for Wheel, 20 Skl for Rakuyo, 16 Blt for Letter and 20 Arc for Parasite.
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FOR FUCKS SAKE PEOPLE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SPARK HUNTER!! THE ITEM MEANS THAT THIS IS A HUNTER BADGE CORRESPONSING TO SPARKS NOT TTHAT THERE WERE PEOPLE CALLED SPARK HUNTERS!! YOU DONT SEE PEOPLE CALLING THE CHOIR FCKING COSMIC EYE HUNTERS BUT YOU FUCKING RETARDS WHO CANT FUCKING READ KEEP GETTING IT WRONG JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ABD FUCK OFF
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Im farming now flat arcane gems in Ihyll. I never farmed before so what are good traits.
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>>172557561
Oh thank you, good to know.
I'll probably just go from BL4 to whatever base stats are needed to wield whatever weapon I'll feel like invading with that day with as much vit as possible. Savescumming so I can relevel again and again and again. Don't know why most people don't do this instead of making multiple specific twinks.
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>>172557843
Check the OP. Primaries don't matter much, you just focus on the Flat Arc and curses. If it's for Wheel then Blunt % primaries are best but rare, Phys being next. If it's for Parasite, then Arc % but they're stupid rare from Ihyll.
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>savescumming pth elder
>keep getting greedy on hits
>keep getting memed by him
>keep getting shitty curses when i do kill him
:^)
:^)
:^)
:^(
>>
>>172557571
of all the stupid shit posted in this thread, and this is the one thing you decide to sperg out about
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>>172558096
>If it's for Parasite, then Arc % but they're stupid rare from Ihyll.
I will have ton of fun.
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>>172558326
gotta love that savescumming life
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>>172558326
Just know that Flat Arc for Parasite is only good if it's for a Twink, without Milkweed, or L2 spam. I'm not even sure if non-Milkweed Parasite would get anything out of the extra Arc % either, could be wrong though.
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>>172558784
What traits should I look for when I want to make a twink?
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>>172558929
Arc %, the OP lists the max amount of Flat Arc possible. You'll also need to farm Isz Brainsuccers for Triangles, Arc % is easier to get from them.
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>buy ritual materials for some frc's
>end up at 0 insight
>im now a beastly idiot
fuck.

anyway, if anyone wants to spelunk in an ihyll frc with me the password is bbg793
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>>172559154
So should I get arc+% instead of physical attack up% as the first trait?
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>>172559615
anyone?

or is it another lonely frc episode
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>>172560019
Blood level?
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>>172560092
98 my man
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>>172559975
Of course, Parasite doesn't do Phys damage with Milkweed.
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>>172560158
No go :<
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>want to spelunk with you guys
>too scared to embarrass myself

>>172560019
Ringing now
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>>172560376
y tho
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>>172560393
Stop worrying over your performance and just have fun, m8. We all do silly things in co-op.
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>>172560424
I'm too weak :<
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>>172560523
Ringibg again
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>lost reiter
well memed game, well memed
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If I created a FRC Ihyll chalice must I still create a FRC Isz or is root enough?
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sitll one place for a fresh ihyll frc
password is bbg793
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>>172561231
One root is enough. As long as you have the root chalice, you're good.
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>>172561017
fuck sake, completely forgot about that pressure plate that you trod on before, sorry
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>>172561405
It's ok
Ringing again
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Imagine being Gehrman in that dream and having to be all like "damn, Good Hunter, you fuckin' good, all powerful with your ancient echos and horrific blood-drunk monster face. I would totally show you mercy, and let you use the Doll too if you like," when all he really wants to do is kill another 16-foot tall beast in the waking world. Like seriously imagine having to be Gherman and not only sit in that chair while the Hunter flaunts his disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing his bloodshot eyes and leathery skin, and just sit there, night after night, hour after hour, while he perfected that ritual. Not only having to tolerate his monstrous fucking visage but his haughty attitude as the Doll tells him she LOVES HIM and DAMN, HUNTER'S PRESENCE SOOTHES LIKE *THAT*?? because she's not the one who has to sit there and watch his abysmal fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been killing nothing but a healthy diet of beasts and extraterrestrials and later alleged scourge victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Yharnam. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on his dimpled stomache as he sucks it in to hide it shamelessly from the Doll, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get nothing to sit there and revel in his "statuesque (for that is what he calls himself)" emboldening, the emboldening he worked so hard for with hours of farming Lecture Building in the previous months. And then the Moon Presence calls for another night, and you know you could kill every single person in this dream before the next Hunter could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Gehrman. You're not going to lose your sweet release over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>172561405
Fuck me, I didn't think it would do that much damage.
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>>172562089
got the fucker barely, reringing for layer 2
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still one place in fresh ihyll frc (layer 2 currently), password is bbg793
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>>172562142
I will join on my 50i play very defesivly
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>>172562324
I'm will come but my 50 can take a looooooong time to connect to 98s
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So I just started a new game plus for the first time, decided to get the pistol this time, but already having one in my inventory gave me a glitch, because no matter what I do, I can't sell it, and even if I unequipped it, it appears in the menu as equipped
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>>172487490
>>172488258

Even with my all out physical build, can I make use of the fire gem?
Or should I stick to fire papers?
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>>172562324
still have room?
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>>172562756
Stick to papers, fire/bolt/arcane gems are only worth it on Arc builds.
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sorry guys, fucked that up
reringing if you wanna rejoin
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PAIN SLAM
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>>172563309
Was my bad, stepped on a plate again..
Ringing again
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really gave me the business with that ground slam
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Some1 should. BOnebladed the giant tbqh
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other guy rejoining?
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>>172563146
ok, also since Moonlight Greatsword scales off pretty well from strength and skill should I use it even if I don't invest in arcane at all?
Does its L1 form damage come from arcane only or would it just supplement my physical attack with arcane damage like the Logarious Wheel?
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These fucking ganksquad plates
:^(
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>>172563862
The blade in both modes scale primarily with Str/Skl so yeah you can use it without investing into Arc. Only the beams will be mediocre since they're Pure Arc.
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>poo in loonarians rape giant
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All right, I feel like using something different today.

How do I have fun using Bloodtinge?
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boar got memed, ringing for L3
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Poor piggo
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>>172564373
28(30)/50 Str/Blt so you can use big guns with Letter and at least 15 Skill for Bowblade and Chicago.
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>>172535016
Honestly man if you don't play online, SKL/ARC is fun, 'cause you can get something like the Saif or Pick and use physical gems on it, then convert them to Fire/Bolt/Arcane, all the while using whatever hunter tools you like.

Off the top of my head, my first, blind, offline build (still playing it) is around BL116.
Vit 32 End 18 Str 12 Skl 48 Blt 11 Arc 43
This is the first time I've played a From game though. I didn't actually notice the vit was lower than people recommend.
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you coming back too wheel friendo?
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>>172564373
Evelyn/tricked Reiterpallasch
Put on Gascoigne's hat and the Yharnam Hunter garb, attack exclusively with your guns. Become Yharnam's sheriff.
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>>172564685
If you get the guidance rune..... I'll tell us right?
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>>172565049
maybe
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>>172564872
Hmm, I might try that out then. I managed most of the game fine with a Vit of 25 at most, so this shouldn't be too bad.
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>>172565049
Ull*
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wonderful.

sorry guys ;_;
reringing
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>>172567098
It k, wish joining didn't take so long tho, cool level 3 so far
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Someone wants to help me out with chalice elbritas bl43? Pass is bbg
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>>172567712
Ringing in a moment
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>>172567871
Disgusting
>>172567712
Twink
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>>172567871
Thanks.
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Anyone having fun roleplaying their characters in their head and creating intricate backstories for their current and future characters while not playing?
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>>172568041
Lamp or fog?
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>>172568184
Lamp. Does it matters since its chalice?
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Wew, queen killer got me
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>it's a die by fall damage episode
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>>172568184
Sorry. Try again? Im at the fog gate this time.
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>>172568075
Absolutely. Best way to get more enjoyment out of the game after you've beaten it.
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>>172568075
My characters tend to go on weird organic arcs and never stay the same.

Tobias started out as a 'professional', some kind of detective who was going to uncover the secret of whatever Paleblood was. Ended up going through a stint as a church paladin, a beast and finally settled on being a tomb-haunting madman.

Grigori I knew was going to be a wizard from the start, and I chose the name because it would fit whatever he eventually became. He's now a spooky scary cultist looking guy. Sometimes he's a more benevolent arcanist.
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>it's a boss gets stun locked episode
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well that was a jolly ol' time in the ihyll frc

now who's up for loran frc :^)
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>>172569085
Me again :)
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>>172568184
Thanks a lot.
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>>172569085
I'll join.
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>>172569085
50 here, I'm out, have a cool day guys
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>>172568860
>Ended up going through a stint as a church paladin, a beast
>a beast
This is pretty neat. I'd love to hear more about it, anon.
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same password if you 2 wanna rejoin
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>>172569134
>>172569414
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>>172569134
trying to join?
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>>172569414
>>172569809
Sorry didn't see your post before
Ringing now
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>>172565137
I'm in NG+ with it. Still levelling arcane too which is really upping the damage the most on the bolt Saif.

My goal is really to beat Orphan this time around. Anyone know if Beast Blood Pellets good for this?
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>>172569895
Beashood only scales with physical damage if I recall correctly. Your bolt saif wouldn't be affected by those.
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>>172569895
BBP won't do anything for converted weapons.
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>>172569860
im stupid, forgot to set it to open
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>>172570204
Kek I thought my internet was going shit again
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>>172569281
If I'm completely honest, stuff like that comes from attire match ups I like and go from there. Paladinmode was Harrowed Hood, Executioner Garb, Yahar'gul Trousers and I can't remember the gloves, wielded an untricked HMS. I think he had somehow come to the conclusion that the Church body itself wasn't evil and that the lunatics running it were, he was always sort of an authority man, I guess. As a hunter, he was a heavy used of blood and through Laurence's bequeathing of the Beast's Embrace, he sort of just changed naturally. Did a whole NG+2 run as a beast with two others here, was fun as hell. Eventually returned from Beasthood and seeing as there was nothing left above to uncover, he delved into the Labyrinths and became Tomb-Haunter Tobias also because he became my BL240 co-op lad and the chalices are the only places he'd ever get co-op with passwords.
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>>172570353
seems like one of ours mightve done, hutners mark greyed out but went back to normal a while later
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>>172570353
well fuck. just as you join i get fucked up by some random things appearing suddenly
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Will the FRC Isz brainsucker boss drop gems I can put in an uncanny weapon?
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>>172570714
That wasn't him, but still, the timing was fucking perfect.
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>>172570786
Yes, as long as it's the right shape.
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>>172570843
Will he drop some of those out of shape one?
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>>172570515
>>172570714
Finally I'm joining
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>>172570909
It's a very low chance, but it's definitely possible. If you want Waning flat ARC gems, you'll have to settle for out of shapes. But for Radials, a Brainsucker in an FRC Ihyll will do just fine.
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still one place in a new loran frc, password is bbg793
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>>172571020
But those have physical up instead of arc%. Does it matters for a twink?
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>>172571015
well that was smart of me, sorry
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>>172571246
Sorry I thougt the way was too narrow to not activate it. So I wanted to activate and then go over it.
Looked funny though
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>>172571139
Depends on the weapon you're using. The thing is that this link http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/individual-blood-gems.html will have those flat ARC secondary effects under Tempering. But, the primary effect can actually be anything in the chalice effect pool. Tempering is just the most common in Ihyll, but you can possibly get an ARC% primary, or anything else, really.
It would just take a couple of more tries. That Radial gem will also only be a Rating 17. No Brainsucker bosses in Ihyll, so you can't go up to 19 in that case. The difference in the flat damage is only about 5 points anyways.
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>>172571398
I want to use Kos. So I farm the Isz one and hope for an out of shape?
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>>172571378
lols gg 2.3 million echos
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>>172571541
F
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>>172571537
Farm Isz for your Triangle, ideally with an ARC% primary effect.
Then, just go to Ihyll and farm your Radials. ARC% is also ideal, but very unlikely. You can also farm Isz for out of shapes, but PHYS% in Isz is only a bit less common than it is in Ihyll. Then again, the other common primary effects in Ihyll won't be of much benefit to you.
But, the secondary flat ARC is the most important at the end of the day. Your preference which to do.
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>died to the beast possessed soul
Time to end it all
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>>172572010
So for an Kos twink there is no big difference between arc% or physical up as the first effect?
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So..... Why does she wear the mask?
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>>172571541
I once lost this many
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>>172572243
There is. PHYS% is worthless on the Parasite. ARC% is ideal, but harder to get, since this primary effect is actually somewhat uncommon in Isz, and even MORE uncommon in Ihyll.
What I'm trying to say is that your options are:
>gamble with Isz radial offshapes with ARC% primary effects
or
>gamble with Ihyll radial gems with ARC% primary effects

The first option will give you an easier time finding that ARC primary, but a harder time giving you the radial offshape. The second option will mean you won't have to worry about offshapes, but you'll be having a grand old time trying to get an ARC primary.
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>>172572480
good god
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>people actually use kos parasite
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>>172572761
I had bad luck getting pure blunt triangles, after I got the 2 I needed that's how many echos I had,


I lost them in a chalice, died once they got sucked into a basement rat or something, died from a bag dude jump punch cause I had an itch.

It was bound to happen sooner or later
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>>172572654
Got it. Thanks.
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Max, are you still ringing?

>>172572950
W- what's wrong with it?
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>>172572391
She's probably hideous and looks like a meth addict aka pthumerian.
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I am going to beat Ludwig the Accursed tonight lads. Its going to fucking happen. I can feel it. No booze, no pity-party
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>>172573228
got really dizzy near the end of that fight and had to switch everything off as it sometimes happens before i have a seizure :^) we could finish that chalice tomorrow or something if youre the guy i added earlier
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>>172573734
Cute doggo
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>>172573228
converted weapons are better my man
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>>172573734
You can do it anon. I believe in you.
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>>172573758
>as it sometimes happens before i have a seizure :^)
I hope you're fine. We can finish the dungeon later.
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>>172573962
>arcane
>all about becoming one with the divine
>still proceeds to use dumb monkey sticks
You should never arcane.
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>get message from a guy i havnt spoken to in months
>I'll reply in a minute, i just need to do this chalice boss
>5 hours passed

what is it with bloodborne and losing track of time completely
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Is beast claws one of those weapons that only look good when NPCs use it because they have poise?
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>>172572391
Slapped on her face because she's a hideous vampiric pseudo-Pthumerian wannabe.

But for real, it's straight up to distinguish her as a villain and/or a minster. It's a very common trope found throughout fantasy and horror. Ever notice how ever slasher film killer is essentially faceless, in a mask or deformed? Jason Voorhees, Michael Myers, Leatherface, even Freddy Krueger, all of them have, in some way or another, an aspect of facelessness to remove their humanity. Other stuff does this, too, the xenomorph in Alien is a colossal, inhuman, skeletal insectoid penis head thing with no face, just a huge mouth. Everything about these types is meant to make a very deep part of you go 'NOPE'. Faces are how we communicate and understand the intent in others, remove that ability, we instinctually mistrust it. It's even as simple as wearing a hood, or standing in shadow. It should be noted our last meeting with Alfred has him in the same position, his humanity lost to a faceless butcher.
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>>172574386
>thinking thats the point of arcane
you dont get it my man
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>>172574667
t. beastly idiot with a saif/feeble choir pussiboi with a cane
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Your best work yet
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>>172573734
You WILL do it and then answer "no" to Ludwig while wearing the church garbs. Make our Queen proud.
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The same someone saved this one, too
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Which one are you? You have my curiosity
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I'll take a wild guess, are you Gregor? Please tell me you're Gregor
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>>172575224
Kek
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Max?
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Ygorl, then?
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Don't make me give you a (you)
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Guidance 3 is in isz
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So if I slot an elemental gem onto an otherwise physical weapon, the physical scaling is removed and fire/lightning is added which scales purely off of arcane.

I assume that applies for Ludwigs Holy Blade but how does Holy Moonlight Sword work then? Is the physical attck only off of str/skl and the arcane att from arcane?

Considering doing a str/arc build for my first run specifically for those 2 weapons and the saw cleaver so open to suggestions.
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>red jelly
salty, slimy, oozes in your mouth and throat
>spear slug
cold and sticky, rotten sourness
>ritual blood
overwhelming copper, thickness between syrup and watery porridge
>bloodgem
might as well eat glass, stinging sourness
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>cant delete posts this often
fuck, i fucked up. please dont make me commit sudoku.... il try and delete them again soon
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>>172577007
Only Pure Physical weapons can be converted, anything split cannot. HMS will need Nourishings on Arc builds so both its damage types are increased.
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>>172572391
why cant I keep her helmet
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>>172576690
>ever wondered what red jelly tastes like
Iunno, you could ask this guy
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Does anyone need help with anything?
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>>172578109
oh boy
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>>172572097
Hey, I died to Maneater Boart the other day. Let's suicide together.
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>>172578205
getting myself banned so my posts are deleted
>>
>tripfags
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>>172577870
Thanks. I get the feeling I'd be better off going str/skl for my first run and making use of the B/B scaling on Ludwigs rather than try and delve into arcane straight away.
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>>172578263
>tfw got charge killed by that boar 6 times in a row once
I don't know man
I really don't
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>>172578271
Just post some porn my man.
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>>172578295
You could just use a Fire Saw Spear and burn through most of the game while pumping Vit and Arc.
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>nsfw on a sfw board

dont click it if you dont want to see some porn, it has to be done though to get my posts deleted
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Getting desperate now, aren't ya, meme machine?
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>>172578295
If you're thinking about builds on your first playthrough you are already doing it wrong.
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>>172578793
yes, im triggered and im tired
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>>172570370
>start 2nd character
>get stuck at Rom
>it's not Hibiki who answers the call but Tobias
>see anons having fun with their beast gank run
>start 3rd character specialized in beast mode
>get stuck at aboriginal beast
>Tobias shows up again
>4th character
>BLT sucks
>can't jump cheese
>Tobias kills Amy for me
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Does anyone want to run through upper cathedral ward with me? I have never done it in co-op before.
Pass: bbg
At first lamp in about five min
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>>172579357
Sure
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Oh, Machine
Your posts are still up eh
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>machine breaking rules just to get posts deleted
Commitment
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>>172568831
>>172568860

One thing that's kind of a mix about Bloodborne as opposed to Souls is that while the setting is much more cohesive and also honestly more intriguing, Dark Souls 1 and 3 give you a greater sense about the world outside of the area of the actual setting (while Bloodborne gives you more insight in to the history and culture of Yharnam's everyday life specifically).

And this is relevant in the descriptions of the starting classes of DS1/3, their starting equipment, the preset "races" in the character creator menu and even hairstyles have some lore to them to help you RP your character better. And the countries outside of Lordran/Lothric are given better characterization so you can have a sense of what your character is fresh out of the character creator.

But on the other hand, Bloodborne's RP strength imo lies in the more "living" game world and imho much more interesting faction rivalries than Dark Souls' covenants which imo lacked Bloodborne's sense of actual purpose setting-wise. The setting in Bloodborne invigorates my inner RP nerd to come up with ideas for characters such as my latest Mensis scholar character who's in the RP trying to research the forbidden powers of the arcane and succeed where Micolash failed.

Or my future Tomb Prospector who's on a holy mission to find church relics from the catacomb labyrinth.
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>>172578881
Have you thought about putting on the tripcode only for the last post where you tag your posts to show it was you, then having to delete only that one post?
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Anyone want to help me out with living memes?
pass: bbg, lamp
>>
meme
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>>172580397
Still ringing?
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>>172580641
Gonna ring for Maria now, if you want to come

Just let me activate her
>>
To the anons that just helped me out in UCW, you guys still ringing or did you guys leave?
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>>172580961
Ah, my bad, m8. I thought you went to restock some supplies before posting for the next boss. Let me help out this anon and I'll jump back in if you'd like.
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>>172581141
Ok, will be at the elevator
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Sorry, ringing again. I'm just so used to fighting her with high VIT I always tank that
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>>172580927
>>172581358
Room for another?
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>>172581276
Ringing in just a minute.
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Alright, what do you think the skeleton boss of Bloodborne 2 will be? Skeletons are a crucial part of Soulsborne games.
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>>172581680
>>172581619
Want me help through hell? (getting the rakuyo) I'll be dying a lot
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>>172579341
This gives me fuzzy feelings, this is why I love /bbg/. Glad I could help back then!
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>>172581753
If you can give me just a moment, sure.
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>>172581868
No problem, I'll ring at the hamlet lamp and go grab something to eat.
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>>172581952
Neat, I'll be ringing. No rush, anon.
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wut
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>>172581952
Are you still ringing anon?
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>>172581706
No Bloodborne 2 please

Modern fromsoft cannot make a good seqeul
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>>172580108
An important thing to remember about Bloodborne is that, at it's core, it's a mystery. Dark Souls isn't so much, stuff is very much presented to you and it's up to you whether or not it becomes apparent. In Bloodborne you need to delve into the city, into its sacred and hidden places to uncover what's going, you need to actively look and search for answers instead of suddenly realizing 'Oh Frampt is a fucking liar' with the blatant clues. I think that very singular motivation gives people a lot to work with off the bat.
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Anyone want to go through ailing loran with me? Will be ringing in about 15 min.
Pass: bbg567
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>>172581706
There won't be a Bloodborne 2.

But they've done most of the possible cool skeleton designs in Soulsborne games already :

>A skeleton made out of other skeletons
Nito, The Rotten, The One Reborn

>a spherical mass of skeletons
Prisoner horde of DeS, also the skeleton balls of DS2

>Giant skeleton
Loran Darkbeast, Vape Lord Wolnir

One thing they could do is like a big team of skeleton cheerleaders that takes the form of one big skeleton and transforms in phase two into a different configuration.

Similar to Dirty Colossus the boss will have a protective outer layer of skeletons that are facing outwards and swinging their weapons at you and your swings keep killing them and destroying the skeletal armor, allowing you to make better damage to the boss.

The bossfight will also not have a traditional "boss soundtrack" but instead there will be skeletons with musical instruments sitting on the boss' shoulders.
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>>172583014
Could you post the glyph?
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>>172583372
It's the regular one m8. On layer 2.
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>>172583553
The glyph is m8?
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>>172583606
zmyp
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Thanks for the hunt, Greg and Segalt
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>>172583810
Thanks for having me, anon.
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new bb dlc when? :^)
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>see bell bitch
>ready the cannon with bma
>fucking spider jumps in front and blocks it
>one shot
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>>172584916
I know that feel, I hate those spiders so goddamn much
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>kill Rom before it teleports

Satisfying every time
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It seems that the T-pose Gascoigne thing is a repeatable glitch and not a freak occurrence. Just happened again on my new hunter.
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>fighting Martyr fag
>wait for boss to attack
>shoot him for the parry
>the bullet completely misses
>proceed to eat shit
What the fuck
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>pushed off by werewolf
>land at half hp
>get molotoved before getting up
Ringing again
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>>172586432
Yep, that's the downside of the gun parry: depending on your or bosses position you might miss your parry due to the bullet missing. You can use the shotgun if you want a smaller chance of missing but you will have a much shittier range.
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>>172586153
Damn, what does he do? I'd like to be able to check out his details if he doesn't attack.
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>church pick is serrated AND righteous
>pure thrust on tricked mode
>feels and looks amazing

How can one weapon be so based
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>>172586754
Thanks for dropping by m8. Do you want to join me for lower loran as well? Or do we part ways now
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>>172587274
I'll join you if he doesn't.
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>>172586996
He does nothing.

Basically after you kill Gascoigne, don't go to Tomb of Oedon or warp out. Instead, walk back to the bridge, cross the bridge and come back. He should be T-posing in the spot where you killed him. I took some screenshots of him which I can show after extracting them from my PS4.

I'm on the GOTY.
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>>172587265
I also invite you hunters to express your love for your weaponfus
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>>172587430
Ok, since I need to get ritual blood 5s, I'm going to be ringing in about 5 min
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>>172587274
We will split up. Let the other anon have his share of the spider fun.
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>>172587719
Ah okay. Well, thanks for helping me through ailing loran
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>>172587581
I love the Hunter axe, as basic as it is. I love both Axes and Halberds in Souls and the Hunter Axe has both of them in one. The swings feel weighty, the weapon has nice R2/R1 combos, L2 wide swings, R2 overheads and charged R2 is a great spin2win.

Also it's wielded by based Father Gascoigne and allows you to boss cosplay really well because you get his set too and he isn't an oversized fagnigger unlike most of the Dark Souls bosses so cosplaying him isn't as ridiculous.

In fact, I should probably make a Father Gascoigne cosplay char.
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>>172587430
Ringing now
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Piercing Rifle is so cool but is it viable
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>>172588383
Wait, it just occured to me. I can join a chalice dungeon with SRC if I haven't completed it right?
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Fug, wanna get back into this game, motivation is so dead I can barely drag myself out of bed, let alone play a game. What'll be a fun build?
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>>172588517
As long as you made it before
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>>172588484
Everything is viable as long as it is fun.
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>>172588529
Aren't there build roll images for BB?
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>>172588776
Hmm. Same pass right? I've made the lower loran chalice.
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>>172588529
Do an arc run but refrain from using weapons as soon as you get the augur and flamesprayer.
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>>172587503
Neat, I gotta try this
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>>172588895
Convinced

I want to make a powde rkeg build and it probably fits
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>>172589017
>that l2 spam
This is going to be great
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>implying theyre not announcing BB2 at E3

Blood is love, blood is life
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>>172589697
Wizz wizz it's time to wazz.
I'm pretty new to this -- does it always take this long to join a game?
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>tfw taking refuge in bloodborne as I try and avoid spoilers for both DaS3 DLCs

It's kinda nice always being able to return here. Still need to completely gem my 99 arc kos parasite build
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>>172588946
If you or anyone else has one, please, link.
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Yep, i can already tell tonight with Ludwig is going to go just like last night. Already starting to get enraged and discouraged. Already lost to him six times in a row. If I dont beat him tonight Im sticking this game in my bag and taking it with me to work tomorrow.
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>>172589817
Yup. Usually takes a while
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>get summoned for defiled amy
>resist the urge to silence out
>host dies as soon as it rips it's arms off
>sends me a message asking me for more help
>I end up coaching him, telling him about the jump cheese and some other tricks
>he ends up succeding after a while
>he showers me in thanks
>mfw
It's because of times like these I don't regret helping randoms in SRRCs
/blogpost
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>>172590143
You should do what I do and roll different characters. Whenever I'm stuck at a frustrating boss, I try until I'm not having fun, then grind a bit to get a level or two, then play another character to advance them in the story a boss or two. The important thing is to leave the feeling of success as the last thing on your mind before exiting the game.

>>172589804
A numbered sequel is only going to suck peepee so hard. If it's a spiritual "BB2" by From and SIE Japan then I'd be all over it.

I would adore a theme somewhere between the Medieval aesthetic and designs of Souls and the 1700s/1800s design of Bloodborne. Something like late 1500s / 1600s european wars would be really up my alley as far as design goes but we'll see.

Basically Bloodborne but in a completely new setting would be my wish.
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I cant even get him down to 2nd phase consistently anymore. Thats it. Im just done. I give up.
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>>172591293
Don't give up anon, it took me three days on my first play through to kill orphan. Only because I was being retarded and used an arcane build as my first
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>>172590143
Don't give up anon. It took me a week to beat Ludwig.
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FINALLY
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>>172591691
>>172591764

It took me 4 days to kill Ludwig and a week to kill Orphan.
Also Hunters discussing Ludwig and Orphan always feels like a rape victim support group.
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>anon helping me gets hit by aoe
>health bar went zero
>damn he is dead
>suddenly out of no where he runs in
>stagger the boss to no end
>kill boss
Thanks for joining m8.
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>>172592097
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>>172592097
YOU FUCKING DID IT

Great job
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>>172592097
HOLY FUCKING SHIT ANON, WELL DONE.
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>>172592161
Nothing can stop the whirligigging.
Was fun, catch you some other time!
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>>172592097
Nicely done anon
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>>172592097
Nice work anon!
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>>172592190
>>172592214
>>172592318
>>172592371

Holy fuck. That was so intense. Once I realize that when he lifts his sword, you need to get behind him, I was able to win. He kept stunlocking me with that shit before. Wow. Im just happy I didnt need to go past Level 75
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>>172592097
Congratulations, glad you finally beat him.

Now we need to talk about the heresy on your head.
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>tfw I only own Xbox One
>>
They should[ve made the cool weapons like moonlight sword and pizza cutter available early in the game so I had a chance to use it in my 1st playthrough imo
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>>172592698
But the Pizza Cutter IS available early. You don't have to kill any DLC boss to get it.
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>demon's souls
>"I beat a boss!"
>"congratulations!"

>dark souls
>"I beat a boss!"
>"using black knight weapons what a shitter try again with a broken straight sword at SL 1"

>dark souls 2
>"I beat a boss!"
>"lol of course you did easy game try again without leveling ADP"

>bloodborne
>"I beat a boss!"
>"congratulations!"

>dark souls 3
>"I beat a boss!"
>"fucking dark sword r1 spammer anyone can do that"

why
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>>172574602
>has never heard of the Man in the Iron Mask

It's a historically valid way of fucking with royalty. Plus it's French and the Japos have a thing for their classical stuff.
>>
>>172592964
I was gonna call him a fag for using meme saw and being a vilecuck desu
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>>172592698
If there was no cool shit in the late game then why even bother.

>>172592940
It has like 30 STR requirement tho'. But yeah, I think that it's already avalable enough and there's still like 75% of the DLC to go.
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Can I do this just to kill her again?
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>>172593417
Yes, takes a bit tho. Enjoy
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>>172593417
Yep..
That's what I did.
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im doing my first pure arc build.
should I lvl up 2 stats in STR to be able to use toni? if I do that I won't be able to get 99 arc and still be blood level 98.
how good is the tonni on a pure arc build?
>>
Does your saved dood die or something when the counter ticks past 999:59:59?
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>>172592964
Because /v/ and /dsg/ by extension is full of retards who bought into the tryhard marketing of Bamco and made playing the games into a weird cult worshipping the games' supposed difficulty.

The Git Gud fags are also almost invariably PTDEbabs who did not know the series before Dark Souls 1 came out.

Demon's Souls avoided this faggotry for the most part because Fatlus/Sony didn't make their marketing obnoxiously tryhard and due to it being a really niche game in general and Bloodborne avoided it due to exclusivity meaning a smaller but comfier community.
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>>172593494
>>172593509
I wish I could stomp and kick
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>>172593984
Collect some vermin.
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>>172593984
Use a vermin on her corpse.
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>>172593913
Yes
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>>172594027
>>172594034
Great idea. Also nice, I can revive her as many times as I want.
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>>172592565
>>172593158

dont worry, was only using the armor for the fight for that defense boost. Now I can be a magical god warrior.
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How many hours do you guys have in BB and Dark Souls
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>>172594232
Defense matters little tho, plus it has shitty Arc defense iirc.
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>>172594232
>vileblood armor vs blunt and arcane

Anon.....
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>>172594402
Sub blood level 90, armor def means alot
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>>172594325
DS1: 300 roughly
DS2 : 172
DS3 : 200
Bloodborne : 150 (bought 4 months ago)
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>>172594598
Not really
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>>172594325
1.5k ds1
800 des
340 ds2
230 ds3
5k bb
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>>172594707
Every 10 is a %
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Is a Boom Hammer build any fun? How do I build for it, what gems do I use?
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>>172594738
Thats 320 days of fighting man. Regret any of it?

It's that like about 10 hours a day for years? I wish I had this much time

5k in BB Fuck it's just mindblowing. How many plakythroughs is that?
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>>172594957
Boomer hammer is a trash main weapon

Good for utility but a horrible main
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>>172594924
I know, but it's still isn't a major difference tbqh. As long as you aren't getting one-shotted from full health you should be fine. Fashion>Defense
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>>172595031
Alrighty. Might do a skill build, as there's still five weapons there I haven't fully utilized... but at the same time, I suck at the game, and early game skill rapes me.
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>>172594997
I'm memeing bout BB, probly closer to 2.5 k

Only bout 5 pla
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>>172594738
Do you ever think about it philosophically?
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>>172594957
Blowing up shit with it is fun, but the durability and limited moveset makes it not so great as a primary. Either 50/25 Str/Skl with Blunts, or 25/50 Str/Arc with Nourishings.
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>>172595094
Using vileblood armor vs blunt and arcane is terrible, that's my point. It's very low end vs those 2 attributes
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>>172595264
>Using vileblood armor is terrible

FTFY
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>>172595264
Obviously yeah the dude geared up badly for the fight but it doesn't really matter much.
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>>172595426
That and bone ash

Bone ash melts when hit with blood damage
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>>172595137
Only one way to get better at early game
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>>172593871
>pure arcane
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>>172594325
DeS:30
DS:428
DS2:140
DS3:75
BB:close to 350
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>>172595483
>potential 100s of damage points averted
>"no big deal tbqh senpai"
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NEW THREAD

>>172595994
>>172595994
>>172595994
>>172595994
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300 killed brainfuckers and not a single arc gems. End my life.
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