/svg/ - Shadowverse General

>>172419231
No love for Urias.

>>172418927
Reminder that if you want to play a card game, its either SV, or HS

>>172419317
Who?

CYGAMES ARE EXPOSED BY RECENT INTERVIEW THAT THEY WANT TO KILL FOREST

WE MUST NOT COWER

REJECT ELF GENOCIDE

REJECT DIVERSITY

>>172419231
>i'm a lesbian
what does that have to do with anything?

>>172419371
Urias.

>>172419404
>killing forest
>bad

nope

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>>172419404
elf and shadow must die

>>172419436
She only want the princess' dick.

>>172419316

Nah, here is a middle finger to you.

If you want to use desert rider instead of her, go ahead.

But if you ever put Minthe in your deck, I hope that karma won't come back and bite you and give you bad draws every game.

>>172419525
but I don't have a dick

Well, hopefully the last thread will prevent shills, I've had enough of them in other threads.

Even if other games might be better

>>172419542
enjoy playing minthe on your fourth turn when you're going first friend

i'm sure you wont regret it :^)

>>172419404
Forestcraft had it's good times, let them rest in tier2 for a bit.

>>172419570
Time to go to Thailand.

>>172419542
Go be a whiteknight somewhere else. Considering the fact they noted that she is DANGEROUS, there won't be a crazy 5PP necromancy card in the future.

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>>172419513
So sword and rune are fine, thanks for the support.

Guys who were trying out Faeria, is it seriously 3gb?

HOW LONG UNTIL TOTG?

>>172419663
>>172419513

>>172419820
12 hours

>>172419820
Need to go through Catacombs first. And I wouldn't even bother before you placed the Lordvessel.

>>172419663
>implying Minthe will survive a turn
There's already a T5 necromancy play, it's called Charon. You don't play Minthe on curve.

Maintenance when? AAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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Left or right?

Post the countdown for the end of patch.

>>172419961
12 hours

>>172419404
>REJECT ELF GENOCIDE
No.

>>172419996
Left

>>172419996
left easy

>>172419961
3 hours 38 minutes.

>>172419997
13 hours 38 minutes.

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So can shadowcraft get a few t2 decks? It's not like they desperately need to be t1, personally i am exited for their new cards.

>>172420053
And when's the datamined stuff coming out?

>>172419961
>thread cannot into simple math

>>172420103

They already have a t1 aggro deck. Now with new expansion they can get a t1 midrange too.

>>172420130
Simple math is all you need for SV and /svg/ sucks at it.

>>172420119
>datamined stuff
What?
New cards is right after maintenance.
If it's emblems and stuff probably next month.

>>172420189
>>172420130
The average person sucks at math.

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>>172420158
I thought that only albertcraft and daria were t1.

>>172419231
Switch Hag and Arisa

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Is this a viable commandercraft or I'm looking forward to brick city?

>>172420189

It explains the hate for forestcraft while they are in a bad spot (and will be in a worse spot after ToG) because they can't into ordering.

>>172419570
LONDON
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>>172420103
Aggro Luna and Nep Luna were already T2 though. Midrange might be cool but we'll see.
>>172420158
>They already have a t1 aggro deck
Yeah, for a whole 3 days on GameAI's list.

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/ourguy/

>>172419368
It's like WoW and FFXIV. Both are fucking garbage but the state of the other games in the genre are so bad that you're forced to pick one.

>>172420289
Forest isn't much in a bad spot though.

>IGN: How have the more Control-oriented Forestcraft decks been performing in your playtesting?
>Naoyuki Miyashita: It’s definitely not in the highest tier
>svg thought control forest would be strong

>>172420103
aggro shadow has been t2 since a while now

>>172420358
Nips are always wrong anon

>>172420338
Honestly, I'd rather take my chances with ded games that have a chance to revive like Faeria, or have a chance to keep at least status quo like Krosmaga, than keep this intentionally terrible meta

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You dickshifter pigfucks THINK you've won this one, but I vow to rope each and every one of you regardless of the deck i'm playing until I get banned from this shitty game

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>>172419231
>implying luna won't be overjoyed that she's going to start a new family with me

>>172420357

For 2 entire expansion, there is no forest card that

>help in combo effect
>decent PP reduction (prince is just too costly and the statline too bad)
>new return effect
>no ways to banish amulet

I would say that forest is one bad expansion away from having less than 45% win rate.

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>>172420443
They did though. We have got Sky knights after that.

>>172420447
>expansion isn't out
>complaining about meta
let me guess, you like yugioh?

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Just woke up and why /svg/ is suddenly shitting on Cygames?

>>172420443
daria isn't a problem

>>172420443
Problem is not in Daria, it's "it's knowledge I seek" and "ITDS LIKE BAGG IN DE OLD DAYS :DD"

>>172420538
The cards that beat their favorite decks aren't getting nerfed.

>>172420447
I mean, imagine they'll rotate out standard, removing dim shift and all that other meta police. Same expansion will have their replacement, instead of dim shift, we'll have, for example, deal 7 damage to an enemy, cost 12, spellboost costs 1 less. How does that sound?

>>172420538
They said there's nothing wrong with DShift and Daria ruining the game.

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>cygames don't want me to be tier1

>>172420480
>implying she doesn't kill you first before she even know who you are

>>172420621
Good and Forest should be shit forever.

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>>172420562
I think this thread already complained about every single card in daria deck.

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AYO HOL UP
*gets banished by Lightning Blast*
YOU TRYNA SAY
*gets Dance of Deathed*
WE SUM KINDA
*path is blocked by wards*
WIN CONDITION OR SUM SHIEEEEET?
*gets OTKed next turn*

>>172420691

We have a right to exist.

t. Forest Vanguard

>>172420282
Too many one ofs, curve way too high, 5 slot waaaaay to fucking overloaded. Your have almost 50% chance of not having a play for at least 3 turns with this deck.

Dude, what are you doing

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>>172420691
Asobo, oni chan.

>>172420759
don't worry

cygames will give forest a "give a follower rush, if you've played two cards, give it storm" card next expansion

>>172420621
Is she wearing panties?

>>172420447
I'd wait dude. HS is hemorrhaging players too. Something big has got to come along and fill the gap somewhere.

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I often see a certain aggro blood deck posted here that has 3 dance of death, 3 imps, 3 night horde etc. Supposedly it is run by someone in master.
I tried running it for a couple of games and it sucked ass, it is a deck prone to extreme bricking and is even capable of losing to D-Shift despite being aggro.
So I improved the deck in a way that would make it excel more and avoid bricking.

First off, I removed 2 dance of deaths since they were just unnecessary, I found that 1 is more than enough, especially since the deck already runs a lot of spell damage from razory claw and demonic strike that can also be used to remove annoying minions. Prior to this I often had matches where I would draw 3 or 2 dance of deaths into my hand and they would just sit there as dead cards.
In place of the two dance of deaths I have added 2 bloody pacts as draw mechanics, eliminating the problem of running out of steam early that was a major issue in this deck.

Secondly, I removed the 3 imp lancers and replaced them with 3 Blood Forte, I mean Dark General. The reason I did this was because I found Imp Lancer to be too slow and too weak for an aggro deck and like dance of death, I would often draw them and they would just sit in my hand as useless cards. Dark General on the other hand has higher damage and can substitute as a decent turn 4 drop if you have nothing else, it also synergizes well with the other cards that I have added that allow you to go into vengeance quickly.

Replacing the 3 night hordes, the Third and Final change was the addition of Bloodfed Flowerbed, I find it to be a disgustingly good card because it is pretty much guaranteed 4 damage to the opponent's face for 1 play point, in total they can deal 12 damage for 3 play points, it has insane value. Also there is no point in whining about the fact that it also damages you, because that will simply enable you to use Dark General with Storm.

>>172420720
I'd rather complain about spellboost mechanic making shit free.

If Ogler and Blade Mage has minimum cost, shit wouldn't be bad as it is.

>>172420807
>Elf
>Wearing panty

>>172419937
Boy, I can't wait for 3/4 6/7 and 4/4 on turn 9.

>>172420803

I would rather they give us a card that reduce PP cost or another 1 PP return effect.

>>172420803
Anomaly literally killed the chance of forest ever getting a card like this.

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>>172420759
http://usamin.love/card/tsubaki/j_attack.wav

>>172420525
Elf has the fucking highest win rate after Sword both in Masters and AA.
They'll be fine (probably).

Haven, on the other hand...

>>172420790
That's what I felt, too many 5 cost shit and praying for Gawain to make them cheap.

I already considering cutting Luminous Mage for mouthbreather and/or Amelia.

>>172420860
You also need an evolve point for that epic play

>>172420798
Do the fairies actually say oniichan in the jap dub?

>>172420538
>Yeah we knew Daria was overpowered before she left the door but we like the card and so did Japanese whales so she's here to stay
>Dshift is working as intended, Control games are too long your average japanese commuter so the longest we want games to last is 9 turns
>We knew Shadow needed help so we made Deser...uh Minthe to save it. So we'll probably stop printing good Necromancy cards so it doesn't get abused in the future :^)
>We also knew Deepwood Anomaly was pretty bad during playtesting and had better versions but someone said "eh, why change it?" and we had to agree!
Probably missing a bunch of shit but whatever.

>>172421010
No http://usamin.love/sv.html#fairy

>>172421010
no

>>172421010
kys
dub
cuck
no

>>172420842
tl;dr

>>172419620
>tier2

What forest deck is that good?

>>172420538
Shills

>>172421045
> game is aimed at commuters
Damn, feels good to be target audience.

>>172421194
>aimed at commuters
>kick aggro in the balls with lots of control
Oh boy can't wait for whining to make game faster with next expansion being aggro heavy

>>172420943

>The only deck which requires skill to play

It is no wonder that it has higher winrate in higher rank. They should support deck like this more.

>>172421045
>>We also knew Deepwood Anomaly was pretty bad during playtesting and had better versions but someone said "eh, why change it?" and we had to agree!
My fucking sides.

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>>172421118
Wolfbolt is going to pretty decent. Fairy Queen will be a good 1-2 of, replacing Fairy Beast. Vist will help it survive the T8 do nothing. I think a lot of people are sleeping on Beetle Warrior but it'll do a lot of work in any Forest deck.

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>>172421118
Silver elf.

>>172421162
>getting paid by blizzard to shitpost on 4chan
living the dream

>>172420538
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/29/shadowverse-talking-tempest-of-the-gods-with-cygames

>When we initially released the game, Forestcraft and Swordcraft were the two most dominant classes in that environment, and with Darkness Evolved it was Havencraft, with Rise of Bahamut Runecraft became more popular, so with this new expansion we are focusing on other classes – Bloodcraft, Dragoncraft and Shadowcraft.

Wtf. Pet classes.

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>but we changed it to something that was more useful and versatile
At least we know they are capable of making good cards. We will probably see the real version of anomaly next expansion.
They must have though:
>forest is already strong, so let's through out a fun card for the scrubs in D rank and increase forest's play rate there
since forest is one of the least played outside masters.
The thing that worries me the most is that they think swordcraft's power ended in standard and that they knew Daria would be popular. To what extent did they know she would be popular? Best rune deck popular or meta completely thrown upside down popular?

Does anyone know what Sato's favorite mtg decks are?

>>172421341
Beetle Warrior seems a nice addition for tempo since it saves roaches or synergy with roaches for harder hit.

>>172421341
>Fairy Queen

Pffftttt hahahahaha

Beetle warrior is good but we don't need that. We need more bounce and PP cost reduction.

>>172421302
forest is just as easy as dshift, stop deluding yourself.

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So what meme decks you want to try after the maint. I'm planning to meme with 3 big guys Wolf, AFD and Anomaly if I manage to pull him.

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You guys are talking shit. I want you to predict some deck nobody expect like Roach.

>>172421354
They are paid 5 dust for each shitpost.

>>172420358
>svg thought control forest would be strong
svg doesn't play forest
>>172420396
you are still wrong

>>172420759
But when it comes to Deepwood Anomaly, when we first made the card and were testing it out, it wasn’t very strong… Since it wasn’t very strong we felt it wasn’t very useable, we thought about changing it, but when we did change it people in development were all like “why did you have to change it?” so it left a big impact on people when it was still in its very early stages, so we figured it leaves a very strong impression on people and that’s why it’s been reverted back to how it was, and now it’s here.

>>172421456
JOUROBOROS with Grimnir

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I literally don't even remember the last time I played against forestcraft, maybe I get one every 100 games.
Surely if it was as viable as everyone says, I would see it at the very least a bit more often, no?

>>172421464
Atomammoth

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>>172421359
What did they mean by this?

>>172421486
I'm white so I'm always right

>>172421526
I see them all the time in masters. For all the whining about DShift I haven't ran into one in over a week.

>>172421464
OTK Haven and Mid Dirt Rune.

>>172421464
Frozen mammoth will be auto include as a 3 of in every deck except hyper aggro, go ahead and screenshot this.

>We knew Daria was going to see a lot of play. That was our expectation. However, we didn’t expect so many people to have the Goblin Mage / Rhinoceroach Forestcraft decks. - Naoyuki Miyashita.

Wow, just wow.

>>172421464
Vagabond Frog aggro sword

>>172421557
Minthe is borderline OP

>>172421557
>let's clog up their 7 cost card slot

>>172421557
They want shadow to be strong and resist cuckblast.

>>172421526
Half the people in this thread don't even play and just base their info off shadowlog statistics

>>172421432

You actually have to value trade with minions and count your hand to not overdraw. You have to choose to use your nature's guidance now to pick up a good card or wait for the top deck next turn. You have to set up lethal. A lot of fucking decisions instead of just clearing and go all in when you have 3 full turns that you can do whatever you want.

>>172421428
It's literally a better Fairy Beast and has on curve stats. Is it a phenomenal card? Fuck no, but we gotta make do.

>>172421628
You mean like the guy you quoted?

>>172421464
Dirt rune that makes great use of that new ambush follower, and maybe Big Guy as finisher. Put in Levi, Piercing Rune and Halo Golem for more face damage too.

>>172421607
In what exactly?

>>172421464
OTKel Haven is what most closely resembles roachcraft.

>>172421668
Are you stupid?

>>172421557
I mean that's blindly obvious just by looking at Shadow's ToG cards. They're almost literally all midrange.

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Post your scores.

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'5-0 with Haven in T2' meme is real. I repeat, MEME IS REAL.

>>172421409
>boosting weak classes
it's called balancing

>>172420538
they're a bunch of whiny cucks.
the only thing that bothers me about the interview is that the interviewer failed to ask them about swordcraft.

>>172421456
not a goddamn thing. i'll open packs and then watch the meta for a bit. meanwhile i'll try to farm with the most aggro decks i have.

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>>172421359
So from what i'm getting instead of pretending to be retarded they're purposely being retarded?

>>172419231
Great. I am a lesbian too!

>we are focusing on other classes – Bloodcraft, Dragoncraft and Shadowcraft.

Fuck yeah, my three favorites are the focus of this expansion

>>172421726
64k, down 8k from last month.

>>172420759
I think the idea is that you already used soccer mom, tia, treant, elder treant, tia to burn their evo and removal then you deepwood vist twice and concede

>>172421642

You mean Elf Queen? She only heal you one time. You can't continuously heal because she eats the shadow when she heals you. At most you only want one in your deck because if you have 3 in your hand (instead of 1 queen and 2 lions so you can chain heal) the next one will be pretty useless. Also you can't use her in a PtP deck.

So to conclude, she is decent but you only want 1 in your deck.

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>>172421487
Fucking what? So they knew the card was literal unplayable trash, tried to change it, some devs asked why they changed it(could be because it was unplayable trash?) so they changed it back to the unplayable iteration?

>>172421641
It's like playing with training wheels since everyone will trade into your fairies, even unga decks will respect Ancient Elf and trade into them as if they were Unica.

You have access to great wards with Tia and AE, good healing with Fairy Beast and everything you play once you chip the enemy down becomes a huge threat that they will waste their time clearing.

Even vanilla miracle rogue was harder to play since going in on a huge Vancleef had a major drawback, Ancient Elf just returns everything back to your hand. Forest being "hard" to play is the biggest piece of misinformation in this thread, it's no more complex than Cblood or Dshift.

>>172421732
T2 haven is the opposite of sword.
Sword is basically guaranteed 4-1, Haven goes all the way from 1-4 to 5-0.

>>172421526
only Master-rank geniuses can properly utilize roachcraft

>>172421579
12k master points here, I run into Dshift every 3 or 4 games.

>>172421707
Him saying no one plays Forest when it actually sees play is something someone who only bases their info on shadowlogs would say right?

>>172421829
LONDON
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D
O
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>>172421464
Ambush royal will be insane. It got themis protection and only needs half damage to win now
Pendant lists may get somewhere due to being a massive fuck you of board melt

>>172421917
None of that saves it from the removal spells every single deck in the game runs.

>>172421732

It's certainly no meme, my only 5-0 was with Haven, and i'm ass at T2

>>172421993
Guess I've got my answer

>>172421965
>Forest being "hard" to play is the biggest piece of misinformation in this thread, it's no more complex than Cblood or Dshift.
then why do I get more of a headache playing forest than I do playing dshift or cblood? It's not tilt, because my winrate is similar and probably better (I don't track exact stats), so the simplest explanation is that it's more mentally taxing

>>172421957
you're lacking context. they already decided not to buff forest. so when they buffed forest again the testers were wondering whether it was needed.

basically anomaly is a casual card that is fun to win with when it does work occasionaly.

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Hey can someone give me a win without concede? thanks
79353

>>172421642
Shes worse fairy beast, turn 7 too late and you cant bounce it. And no reason to run both, 2 beasts enough. Only can be usefull if your deck for some reason got small hand, like tempo spam or something.

>>172422124
>then why do I get more of a headache playing forest than I do playing dshift or cblood
arisa's voice will do that.

>>172421965
Since when did we start to compare to other games?

If we have 7 slots on the area forest will be stronger but at the same time harder to play. Dealing with aggro is easier (and most of the time they refuse to trade probably because they can't afford to lose any damage to face) but against control I always have to make decision to hold back or go full in. Dshift can just relax when they meet control and even against aggro they just have to remove everything with what they have, no thoughts given.

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>swordshitter plays maid leader
>it doesn't draw anything

>>172422103
A yes or no would suffice. Are we all in agreement that Forestfags are bigger whiners than Shadowbabs?

>>172422231
>but against control I always have to make decision to hold back or go full in
play wolfbolt and collect your free win just like dshift

>>172421957
It sounds like they changed it to something that didn't OTK and someone was like "What happened to the OTK card?" I doubt they want it to be much stronger in its current form.

>>172422269
Nobody gives a fuck about Forest here. /svg/ is all about shadow/dragon/sword.

>>172422250
>forestshitter plays gobu
>it doesn't draw anything

>>172421957
Anomaly having a win the game effect is more cool than the proposed alternative. Forest is the premier combo-craft, they want their players to get high on the false believe that they did "good" to win

>>172422076
Yeah, it dies against control, nobody ever saw that coming. Against agressive decks, they only have to chew 2 or 3 removals and then it's open season.

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Whos got their RTW decks ready for all these noobs testing their new decks?

>>172421965
Basic reading is too much to expect from /svg/ so I guess basic math would be similarly difficult.

>Naoyuki Miyashita: This is not about a particular card, but what I would like everyone to focus on, and something that I’m looking forward to personally, are the changes made to Take Two. With the release of this expansion, there are several changes being made to Take Two and how it works. For example, there will be no cards from the Standard card pack in Take Two, and the rate of specific cards appearing during the selection process has changed. The winning rate for the players going second has been balanced out with this new update. The balance is better and it’s improved overall. And in Japan there will be Take Two tournaments with cash prizes as well, so that’s something that’s coming with this expansion, so it’s not about a particular card, but I want people to take a look at this format.
BASED
A
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>>172422269
Biggest whiners are dragons with their meme tier 1 nepnep.

>>172422301

I only play tempo, never tried other variant, not even OTK. I would imagine that wolfbolt is a lot harder to play than tempo.

>>172422269
>7 out of 8 famitsu cup finalists brought elf
>wolf, tempo, and pure roach were all there
>they still think the class is bad

>>172422131
Why did they decide not to buff Forest but had no qualms about buffing Rune and Sword?

>controlcucks finally, definitively told that this game doesn't want them
good fucking riddance
blizzard made a huge mistake letting you fedora tippers into the hobby and catering to you by nerfing combo decks
I'm glad Cygames keeps has their eye laser focused on how to keep a meta healthy and interesting for normal people, and I'm glad team 5 burned their game to the ground with jade and pirates so you cunts have nowhere to run back to

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Sometimes I wish I was a girl so I could experience the purest form of love.

>>172422269
forest players literally can't handle not having a tier one deck for ONE expansion
fucking pathetic

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So what do you actually do against this thing?

>Can't be damaged.
>Can't be affected by any other card's abilities except for those that change this card's attack or defense.

>>172422364
The feature im most looking forward to is your opponent choosing your deck, should make for some fun battles

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>>172422364
inb4 going first will have 60% winrate now

>>172422348
If an Aggro deck is still faffing about on T9, they've already lost.

How many more hours till Luna gets banished forever?

>>172422461
kaguya

>>172422429
Sometimes I wish I was a girl so I could experience the pleasure of begin cummed inside.

>>172422137
thx sword <3

>>172422269
t. Shadowbab

Enjoy your banishes.

>>172420842
Pretty solid deck

the only time I've lost is when the enemy gets a perfect curve or stupid bullshit (had one control shadow deck have three undyings and two pacts in the top 10 cards of their deck)

>>172422461
win before t10 like everyone else

>>172422429
>Wanting to experience lesbian bed death
IRL lesbians are either disgusting or """lesbians"""

>>172422492

I prefer she do it herself right here, right now.

>>172422461
You win the game because they just passed the turn on turn 9

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>>172422501
You dont need to be a girl to be cummed inside Rowen.

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What does he mean by this?

>>172422394
roach and wolfbolt are still getting new tools
sword isn't getting amazing cards either and only dirt rune is getting cool stuff

>>172422429
People in general are terrible and many lesbians more so.

>>172422537
This anon knows his shit.

>>172422461
Ignore it
Literal 9pp do nothing

>>172422364
>no floral fencer in 2pick ever again
it's a strange kind of feel

>>172422357
This hurt my eyes.
t. batshitter

>>172422357
>Blood missing that easy lethal

For what purpose?

>>172422357
>trades when he has lethal
O I am laffin

>>172422461
Dshift. The answer is always Dshift.

>>172422357
Is it ranked? Post rank.

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>>172422461

>>172422357
>Avant blader

>>172422550
>>172422608
All they have to do is evolve and trade. Where's your tempo now :^)

>>172412721
Forest never needed 0pp fairies
They just needed a good blend of Fairy Gen and Fairy use
Archelon(thank god he stays i think) is the strongest Forest card in T2 (Tying with Cynthia). He's essentially a DShift

>>172422501
You don't need to be a girl for that

>>172422768
You can make the same argument for satan and I'd say he's generally better

>>172422429
MY DICK
MYY DIIIIIICK

When will havencraft get a good leader?
Both options right now are shit

I can be an ugly old nun or a furry homo eagle

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>>172422602
>sword isn't getting amazing cards either

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>>172422834
The greatest ojou-sama will be here soon!

>>172422813
>turn 10 do nothing with RNG is better than turn 9 do nothing
Whatever you say.

>>172422883
>ruining shadowverse with street fighter shit that doesn't fit in at all

why is this allowed
what's next, a miku hatsune collab?

>>172422602

>roach is getting new tool

May I know which cards are those? I am really interested about it.

>>172422608

But once it is there it is there. Not even the Dragon meme Blast can banish it. I would trade Anomaly over it if I can. (Unless we can get our hand on a card that give followers storm)

>>172422389

We just want new toys bruh. It is unfair we've got nothing for 2 consecutive expansion.

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>>172420538
Because Cygames actually KNEW what they were doing and that /svg/ was so wrong again about them.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2017/03/29/shadowverse-talking-tempest-of-the-gods-with-cygames

>They're looking at formats at some point - since they view this game as having a long shelf life.
>Internal playtesting suggests that Control Forest is not a top-tier deck
>They knew that Daria was very powerful which was intentional, but they admit to missing the boat on the Goblin Mage/roach synergy
>The intent is to have an environment in which games last 5-10 minutes on average
>They think that Control Blood's power is moderated by its dependence on amulets that don't specifically change the board
>They wanted to encourage new looks at old cards through their card design
>They were gonna change Deepwood Anomaly to something stronger, more useful and versatile cause it was so weak they were questioning its useability... but "people in development" were all like "why did you have to change it?"
>They are saying that Ginger is not garbage. "We are expecting [to do] a lot more with Ginger in future cards and future expansions."
>"Win the game" type card (Seraph, etc) feels too weak.
>"Focusing on crafts such as Bloodcraft, Dragoncraft and Shadowcraft"

Fucking /svg/ BTFO like stupid fucks.

>>172419231
>they aee removingbthe best sword cards from arena

>>172422921
But that would fit more than a SFV collab. The only thing that would fit less is pulling some shit like SE with the Ariana Grande shit in one of their mobage trash.

>>172423005
Hip-hop singers?

>>172422883
While I think the SF leaders are a stupid idea I really like this Ojou-sama and Juri but they are going to be only available with crystal right?

>>172422931
So what does dragoncraft get in this expac?

>>172421619
Sword got 5 clogged and you don't see them complaining. There's more to shadow than Nephthys.

>>172422602
How in the fuck do you think Luminous Mage, Roland and Gawain aren't "amazing cards"?

>>172422931

>Sword and forest are the most popular in standard
>Forest getting shafted for 2 expansions
>Sword keep getting good cards for every expansion, all 3 expansions if I say so myself

So why is unga getting the pet class treatment?

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>>172422340
I did this once and ended up scaring a haven player into warding every turn instead of playing their win condition and I ended up being dragged into a 20 turn autism match

>>172422924
beetle warrior

>>172422868
name one amazing card they're getting (read: amazing)
they're getting solid cards sure but nothing crazy. If something like gawain, lecia or luminous mage are amazing then shit like beetle warrior and vist are too and forest players don't get to cry about ToG

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>Guardian sun +t9 'do nothing'

Do sumthin nigga

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HIP-HIP

>>172422461
Complain on twitter so they nerf it.

>>172423229
oh boy here we go

>>172423229
guardian sun doesn't affect aegis

stupid frog poster

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それの音 サルボボ?
いいえ!忍者がいます!

>>172423169
Maybe that Haven player was me.

>>172422461
SAA TOBUWAYO

>>172422921
>a vocaloid collab
aw yeah!

>>172423056
That would be so wacky is might sorta be fun. It would have to be something no one really cares about let alone the playerbase of this game. Like if they just went and got the cast of the nuGhostbusters movie as leaders.

>>172422461
Taunt up and go face.

>>172422920
At least you can give satan ward
Heavenly "Cuck" Aegis will just stand there watching while Albert rapes your face

So when do we get street fighter leaders?

>>172423239
shadowpedos tears are delicious

bring your kawys now, fucker.

lmao

>>172423131
Sword and Rune are pretty obviously the pet classes. Look at how badly they wanted to make all 3 Rune subarchetypes completely viable.

>>172423175
>beetle warrior

No it doesn't help roaches. In fact, it consumes roaches' resources. But it is one of the 2 nice card we've got the whole expansion not gonna lie.

>>172423169

And some people have the audacity to say that wards are useless against forest. They clearly didn't run enough wards.

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What the fuck do I even pick now

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>>172423269
Aegis says it cant be targeted, sun doesnt target

>>172423239
This need a Rowen edit with the "to another level" text beyond

>>172423396
always dragon. top tier in take2

>>172423396
Dragon is not a meme in take two.

>>172423396
Wouldn't it be better to wait with take2 until tomorrow for new rewards?

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>>172423239
We got a yugioh card

>>172423381

And they want to support Blood, Dragon and Shadow too according to the dev. Being forest and haven is suffering.

>>172423352
T9 Albert isn't even that scary since Elana runs 50 Curates and all other types of assorted healing bullshit.

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One daily mission pack before the maintenance. Wish me luck. I'm gonna take whatever I open as omen for the big splurge.

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>>172423270

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>>172423435
>>172423441
Done that. Wrong meme amulet to work with Dragoon, sadly.

>>172423541
polyphonic is solid in take 2

>>172423510
Blood and Dragon did get some decent support though. Haven really did get shafted, even in their "limelight" they were outperformed by Sword. They actually didn't say anything about the general constant dominance of Sword at all. Hmmm....

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>>172423512
>/svg/ still pretending Elana is relevant in any way, especially against fucking t1 decks
Get over it already

>>172423541
Easiest left of your life

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>>172423520
Oh bother...

>>172423527
>Ninja Slayer-san is Ninja Master
I'll try building the deck then.

how long until maintenance starts now?

>>172423637
>Blood and Dragon did get some decent support though

That is exactly what I just said bruh.

>>172423645
Are you trying to say Aegis isn't going to be run in Elana? I can't see it being as good in Sun.

>>172423070
BARSTO STREEM
BAHAMUTO UTEEE!
BANISHCAUST HAJIME!

>>172423689
don't worry, this pack soaked up all your misfortune for later!

>>172423765
I'm saying Aegis won't help Elana not get raped by Albert and the storm crew

>>172423457
Last T2 of RoB.

Isn't Ginger good with Bahamut? Ginger can open up neutralcraft for rune right?

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>turn 8 nep
>turn 9 nep
>turn 10 nep

>>172423765
You have no concept of haven, or how cards work, or shadowverse in general.

>>172423815
Elana already has enough tools for fighting off albert and storm crew. Aegis is meant to rape control decks in seraph's place.

>>172423851
I can't think of anything that can have ginger in the deck other than D-shift.

>>172422931
70% chance to have 1/3 of 1 set of hard board clear by t10. Ginger goes the way of Inferno dragon. Only works against people who already burned all their removal against you

Old cards that shouldn't have been unplayable in the first place. You don't win a prize for shoveling your own shit.

8 Chorus of Prayer (drops Iron maiden or w/e)
9 Aegis and Prayer drops Contest of Strength

Works?

>>172423907
>Elana already has enough tools for fighting off albert and storm crew
I'll refer you to this post again: >>172423645

>>172423954
IGN: Where do you see Wordwielder Ginger fitting in? What archetype is that card for? It’s an interesting card, but it feels like a Daria deck can put stuff onto the board pretty quickly, and a lot earlier than this card can.

>Yuichiro Sato: Ginger doesn’t really fit into any of the archetypes that we just mentioned. She’s another type – you have to build your deck around that card. Daria is definitely faster when it comes to filling your board, but Ginger is able to play more expensive cards that cost more play points, so Ginger decks will be slower, but will have tougher cards with more play points in it.

>Naoyuki Miyashita: We are expecting [to do] a lot more with Ginger in future cards and future expansions.

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Is there a HQ Israfil I can get so I can make a poster?

>>172423965
Sure. Add chorus+heretical inquiry instead

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>>172423689
>last pack before xpack
>7 bronze
>1 silver

kek

>>172423965
Japanese dev already confirmed Aegis doesn't interact with contest of strength one way or the other. He will be able to go face, but so will the enemy followers.

>>172424086
And they're all trash, too.

>>172424027
Literally nothing can save it but Rune Aegis/Lecia and even then it can't both do its thing and not die to

>>172423996
that's because of Seraph-Elana's ruining numbers, true Elana is stronger than Alberto

>>172423103
Because they're all worse than just sticking with the current albertcraft build.

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>All the cards with "assassin" in the name are women
Really makes you think

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Post those final pre-patch numbers

>>172424097
Post pic pls.

>>172424702
8695 rupees
9800 vials

>>172424516
because your guard will be down during sex. Unless you prefer guys then..... they won't work on you

>>172424516
I thought it was common knowledge that women make better spies

>>172424702
4620 rupies
9700 vials
Might not be enough for the deck I wanna build

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>>172424702
1290G and vial is still the same. I'm fucked

>>172424702
2500 or so rupees and 7k vials. I'm just going to leave the thread when the expansion drops so I don't get consumed by jealousy.

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Say hello to my little friend

>>172424702
Are you going to buy all packs with the gold or what is the best way to go about it?

96570

Concede, please.

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>>172424702

>>172424702
4.2k shekels, 40k vials

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>12 more hours
I need to spend my gold NOW

>>172425120
whaleboiz

Seriously, I am the only one who really think Runecraft is broken?

I often rage against sword/albert, but you can still win if you have good draws.

When playing against rune, if you don't play storm, you only win if Rune has really bad draws.
With all her "Deal damage and draw card", she is less RNG dependant than others classes.

>mfw devs confirmed that aggro, or stall until wincon meta will remain
>that instead of making cards interesting, we'll get more anomalies
>there's nothing else to play
>>172419371

>>172425217
According to devs, dim shift and daria are working as intended.

>>172424516
Nobody suspects a woman.

>>172425265
Meant to quote >>172419368

>>172425195
Sure, do it.

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>>172424702

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>>172424516
More like ASSassins

>Conj snowmen feat. daria with only 1 conjuring force
>Miss the arcane enlightenment window because I couldn't ball out snowmen on curve to ramp and cover with a embrace+enlightenment tempo swing
>Survive two bahamuts and a Dragoon
>Win a game thanks to only animated penguin wizard
Jesus christ that was a wild ride

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Are you guys going to vial Ginger if you pull her tonight?

>>172425446
No. I believe in her. Just not for a year or more once rune can actually live that long or to wrestle out into topdeck country

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>>172423457
Well I got pretty much raped but it was worth it.

>>172425446
I'll sacrifice her for my blood and dragon decks.

Anybody up for a concede? Room is 30524.

>>172425446
>ever vialing anything you don't have 3 of

>>172425446
No. I'm hoping great things for her.

>>172423965
I like how you think.

T8: Scripture + Chorus to summon Tribunal, get rid of 2 followers
T9: Aegis, Chorus summons ToS, basically win but evo and trade if needed.

Could work.

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>shadow will never get good last word effects because of nepnep
>shadow will never get good necromancy cards because of minthe and devs think she's dangerous
A-at least I still have my Atomeme haha.

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>>172424702

>>172425621
It's still open, by the way. Just a concede please, that would be swell.

30524

>>172425446
They said they want to make a new archetype with Ginger in the interview so I'm going to keep her. Rune might get some crazy followers in the future and even if that's not the case she could be still played in control rune which doesn't exist yet.

When's the maintenance?

>>172423965
Might be bricky but very interesting.

>>172425796
Destroy the strongest enemy and heal for its attack isn't good last words? Summon yourself when you die isn't good last words? Destroy enemies, summon free liches, card draw, I think there are plenty of good last words.

Fuck that. Shadow needs gimmicks BESIDES last words so you don't have to concede immediately if the opponent has banish.

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>Sahaquiel's harem keeps expanding with each expansion
What's her secret?

>>172425548
I turned into a jelly-propelled rocket.

>>172425867
If they nuke Dshit for Ginger Rune I'll be happy.

>>172425864
Thank you!

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>>172420282
I made something like this

>>172425923
Already happening and about to be over in an hour. I'd start my T2 runs then.

>>172426020
Whatever they replace dim shift with will be as I win with no counters as dim shift.

>>172425867
>new archetype with Ginger
another non-spellboost archetype would be rad.
rune's going to be a bitch to balance though.

>>172425980
UTSU

>>172425980
>harem
>only summons her sister and Lucifer

>>172425867
Oh come on, how is Rune not control? D Shift and Conjuring is entirely based on removal before you execute your win condition, and Dirt is about warding the fuck up and loaded with banish and removal cards for a late game victory.

What's your definition of control?

>>172426090
They have to kill (rotate) dshit out for Gingercraft to exist.

And T9 wincon is nowhere as cancer.

#teamginger

>>172425708
Does sun works on Aegis?

Because at turn 9, with Albert, Roach combo, or even Genesis Dragon, which can storm for 9+ damage, I won't used it, unless I am already ahead.

>>172425980
BRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPP

>>172426179
It'll be conjuring force tier, not replace dim shift

>>172426186
>Does (insert card ability) work on Aegis?

>Can't be affected by any other card's abilities.

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>forestcraft gold spell
>4 mana
>all enemies on board gain "can not attack" until the end of your next turn

>>172426186
It's not likely that Sun will work with it.
But Le Balanced Sky Knight can't go face with ToS on the board.

>>172426138
Rune is combo. Stalling until you powered up your wincon is nothing but combo. And synergy decks are combo too, so daria and ER

>>172426273
ToS ?

>>172426418
Oh the force trade card.

Does it really works on Albert, if there is only Aegis.

>>172425979
Khawy is great but Mordecai is mediocre, he's just used because the deck has no real wincon beside him, the rest you mentioned aren't even being used. And fuck you, Last Word IS the class identity.

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>>172426285
Hello friend.

>>172426509
Yep. It's the reason Aegis isn't tier 9999

>>172426060
epik dude xd