/bnsg/ - Blade and Soul General

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Blade and Soul DPS Guide

Hello my name is Autist
My keyboard has 3 buttons

kys OP

Crimson #1

Submit to me already

>>172393232
get cucked, i only hold [2]

LMB
RMB
F
1
2
3

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Daily Challenge + JSY (I have scale / orbs)
NA #931 833

4 or 6 man up to whoever joins

Is WL the only class with a Block/Counter that doesn't get a DPS gain out of using it?

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>>172393028
I still don't know why I'm in Marketing

>>172393232
LMB, RMB, Tab

Sounds about right

>>172393921
>instant cast wingstorm/dragoncall
Assassin's boost isnt technically because of the counter though, but because of the stealth

>>172393921
ice build use block proc to get instant dc

>>172394375
>>172394434
Oh yeah I forgot about that spec tree. Assassin's counter doesn't bring any offensive ability for Shadow build then I'd assume? They don't use Stealth, right?

>>172393921
Des?

>>172394543
It's a dps loss for a shadow sin to use counter

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nth for summoners actually pretty hard class that requires careful micromanagement of cat, three different anicancels, maintaining ivy and photo stacks, being always behind target, F proccing, constant countering and if you don't do this as summoner you should switch to easier class like fire bm or lightning sin or whatever you fucking low dps low test shitter

>>172394582
Spin is a deflect (or +Defense skill) technically, not a Block/Counter, same for BD (Both of which gain nothing offensively by using them)

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>>172393656
Departed as 6

>>172394543
Yeah.
Stealth gives +30% crit dmg, counter gives nothing. Dark Build has no real rotation under stealth, so no bonus.

>>172394543
shadow build uses stealth only to maintain poison stacks

>>172394678
Yeah, I was talking about Des actual block, Stone Fortress or something? Everyone forgets about that.

Still no offensive bonus.

>>172394910
Oh yeah, you're right there on all counts.

>>172393921
BM's only "block" that gets a dps gain is the parry one. Same goes for KFM's.

>>172394910
>destroyers number z as always
Anyone surprised?

>>172395113
violent blade

>>172394910
Stone Fortress V badge (Floor 20) is top pick for Earth dps so it sort of has a DPS value through that

>>172395113
Violent blade for BM, Elbow Smash is also still a Counter, and even normal counters give them access to Iron Shoulder.

>>172395176
oh yeah, violent blade gives conflag

>>172395339
That is true.

>>172395384
>and even normal counters give them access to Iron Shoulder.
But that's just like an after condition because its on counter, not on use, like Sin's stealth after counter.

>>172395893
Iron Shoulder cannot be used unless you successfully counter an attack. Are you getting it mixed up with Avenging Fist?

>>172395893
semantics

>>172395893
>because its on counter,
its procs other skill* on counter

what is the most fun class?
is 64 bit client actually an fps increase? how do I make it work, this thing throws some kind of error
what is DKV and why people go there?

also which craft should I take?

>>172396137
BD

>>172396367
how come normie bd's do a ton of damage but bnsg bd's don't

>>172396367
blade dancer are locked to some nigger race of furries I dont wanna

>>172396516
How come you're such a shitposters?

>>172396516
is cavok a normie bd or a bnsg bd :thinking:

>tfw sins have 3 escapes

>>172396751
>tfw fms have 5

>>172396660
He is both and neither at the same time

>>172396792
>tfw there is no escape from love

>>172396816
Schrodingers BD

>>172396660
he's more of a normie bd than a bnsg one

>>172396557
>furry
sigh

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>>172396660
>tfw you will never carry Cavok

>Page 9
For shame

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post a random screenshot

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>>172400026

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>>172397268
Don't let your dreams be memes

>>172393216
>>172394671
kyoppi let me cum inside your buttcheeks IRL

>>172400159
who is that onahole summoner

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>>172400026

>>172400297
only one of those is me I would never call summoner a hard class

>>172400505
ok
let me spurt my nut butter on your mustache

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>>172400026

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>>172400026

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>>172400026

>>172400575
that's real fuckin gay

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>>172400026

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>>172400746

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>>172400796
s so? i still wanna!

>>172400505
because you never played them in high level

>>172400875
do you think I'm some slut

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>>172400967
but you are

>>172400787
That lyn on the right is extremely cute desu

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>>172400746

>>172401063
I am not, I need a name first AT LEAST

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>>172401130
Daily reminder that the only good place for a Sacred Beast is in a Stew.

>>172401161
you know me though

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Legendaries - Size Difference Edition

NA # 946 993

Departing in ~10 minutes.

>>172401731
ok buy me dinner then, something to prove I'm not a slut

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>>172400967
let me smoochie smooch you already

>>172402291
if i buy you a steam game is that enough
also can you visit me

>>172402390
please don't actually buy me anything, I'd feel guilty
and how would I visit you

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>>172402010
Departed with 5.

>>172402576
umm
if you don't have a car you can take a greyhound, but let's play steam games instead

>>172403003
what's a greyhound
what games are we gonna play

How do I know what soul shields I'm suposed to get? If I'm playing BM I should just get straight up crits and piercing, right?

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>>172402303
why do you want to do that

>>172403209
Crit and accuracy are most important in pve. Fuse all your shields with crit unless you're lacking accuracy a lot. Piercing is more for pvp and you get enough for pve through accessories.

>>172403209

BT > MSP > Ebondrake/Tomb > Asura/Be Ido > Yeti/Northern Crit > Silverfrost Valor is probably the normal progression (Best > Worst) Crit/Accuracy rolls are what you want to look for on specific pieces.

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>>172403071
>>172403342
you know why

coop games are fine

>>172403609
I don't know why
what games

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So will the chances of getting outfit drops from 6man "hardmode"s become as abysmal as they are in lets say BSH now? Kind of thinking I should farm 4mans for outfit drops while I still can

>>172404425
should be the same as 4 man now but with 2 more fighting for it

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>>172404425
not sure if the chances are abysmal, I got pirate and blackram officer oufit in less than 5 runs in poh-chan and noble of the sea on my first run of BSH

>>172404747
running alone I meant...

my butt hurts ;;

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>>172405149
From what?

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>>172404183
>>172405223

really homo games

>>172405296
ok

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>>172400026

>>172406479
do more?

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>>172406479

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Foundry - Sleepy Music Edition

NA # 954 633

Doing 1-2 bonus Foundry runs before sleep time.

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>>172407167
Filled. We're teaching Cavok how to count to 6!

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Pouring one out for my man Club Penguin

RIP, you will be missed

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>>172406772

I'm not a slut, leave me alone

>>172407604
haha

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Good night /bnsg/, don't forget to wash behind your flippers before you go to bed!

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>>172407604
I love these so much. Do more and don't stop

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Very late night DC

NA #959171

Will just pug in 5 no matter what

why do maintenances take five hours

what are they hiding

>>172411296
the fun

Who don't you like running dungeon with?

>>172411920
you

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>>172411920
myself

>>172411920
Most of EU

>>172411920
/bnsg/

>>172412117

Why do you not like running with EU anon?

>>172412392

Same question to you but /bnsg/ instead.

>>172414701
>Same question to you but /bnsg/ instead.
too shy
i dont play much anyway

Why did I get kicked from the discord? Reeee

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Place your bets on what they break in this maintenance!

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>>172393232

You guys always argue there's just 2-3 buttons each class uses, but the breakdowns always consist of 10+ skills.

How much dps would each class do in reality using only 3 skills?

It's 60-70% of my regular dps as FM, with the inferno one only being relevant due to the fight lasting 55 seconds while having 3 set bt. Tested it on yeti until the first heat pull, not ideal but good enough on my gear to have some comparable data.

>>172394353
>I still don't know why I'm in Marketing
because you're only likable when you buy people shit

>>172418164
post some breakdowns

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>>172418821

but... they're in the included picture...

Can all classes actually pull off decent dps with just 3 skills? Having to always use the single focus generating skill doesn't leave you with many options for the remaining 2. Like I can't picture how well would WL's do.

>>172419141
i mean actual breakdowns

>>172419141
shut the fuck up
all ranged classes are braindead trash

>>172419141
>I can't picture how well would WL's do
Very badly.

>>172419141
wls could just do rb f 4

>>172418164
>It's 60-70% of my regular dps as FM
This actually seems better than most classes using only 3 buttons, maybe save for lightning sin (though lightning sin can't get in stealth, but lets ignore this part), fire bm and earth sum

>>172419578
earth sum nor fire bm won't do 70% of their dps with 3 buttons

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>>172419269

>tfw white text inferno's

>>172419290

sure, range advantage is the comfiest thing you can find in any game if its available

>>172419304
>>172419554

but still, how poorly would that do compared to a full skillset WL

>>172419578
>>172419930

I'm not sure if you should let fire bms use Q/ss for a free stance change and not count it as one of the 3 skills used.

>>172418164
>>172419930
The second problem with earth summ would be that their main skills all show up multiple times in the breakdown anyways.

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>>172411980

>>172419930
Nor will lightning sin, melee classes have a lot of conditions to actually dps, but those can still achieve better results than other classes.

>>172419992
I let lightning sins get in stealth and dps with 3 buttons, so I don't see why not, that shitpost was "bns dps guide"

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>>172420321
Its not edgy just me telling the truth, I don't like doing dungeons because I'm shit and I'm wasting everyone fugging time.
I can just imagine what people say about me while I'm not there

>>172420460
if you're shit why don't you get better by playing the game more often or practicing your rotations

if you don't run dungeons or farm for better gear you're never going to do better

nice catch 22

>i know i'm bad but instead of getting better i'll just complain about it

fuck this shit

>>172420460
bitch im so shit people dont even remember me, even though i've i played with them lots of times

the only one that remembers me is downtownghoul

>>172420786
you're not that bad, xia

>I'm wasting everyone fugging time
>I don't like doing dungeons because I'm shit
>Still signs up for Black Tower

>>172420460
wtf is this shitty mentality
I see you playing ffxiv and random shit all the time
maybe if you stopped looking for reaction photos and did dungeons instead you would feel a bit better about yourself in bns

>>172421220

Because XIV is completely carebear friendly and you will get in trouble for calling other people out if they're being bad.

>>172421410
sounds like bnsg

>>172421410
>>172421436

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>>172420898
see? not even close

>>172422145
who dis

>>172422319
some nobody that doesn't play the game but still comes here to shitpost

>>172421436
bnsg is like the opposite, where everyone gets shit on

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>>172422576
>doesn't play the game
just take my soul and let me bathe in the darkness

wanna trade rare luu pics?

>>172422958
no because I don't care about stupid bnsg memes or whatever

>>172423037
you seem a bit edgy today
wanna talk about it anon?

>>172423129
memes are edgy

>>172423184
we all are

I'm gonna start a new character but I can't decide between WL, FM and SF. My ping is shit so I lean more towards WL and FM but, I love ice skills which FM doesn't really use as they deal shit damage unlike in SF which they burst with them so, help pls.

>>172427364
make a bm.

>>172427364

DPSing as WL feels like a lot more work than the other two classes, so I'd suggest you just decide whether you want to sit in a safe ranged zone as a FM, put some effort into what you're doing as a SF in melee range or pretend you're dpsing while giving your party the best buff in the game.

Servers up. Buy those wedding outfits.

>>172431593
But the dress looks like shit.

>>172432479
Buy it and let me marry you you slut

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>>172400026

>>172428674
Why?
>>172428742
>DPSing as WL feels like a lot more work than the other two classes
But they can get up there in the charts as well, right?
>pretend you're dpsing while giving your party the best buff in the game.
Hmm?

>>172434657

yes
WL's boost party dps by so much that it would be worth to even take a 0 dps WL instead of a high geared nonWL to a party

>>172436236
>WL's boost party dps by so much that it would be worth to even take a 0 dps WL instead of a high geared nonWL to a party

What the hell, really?

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DC time bnsg wake up. Doing either 4 or 6 depending on how many we get. Got scales and red and green orb just need a blue orb. Damn marketplace is down

NA#4191

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>>172437220

5/6

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>>172437220

Leaving in 5.

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>>172437220

And we're off.

Anyone here that knows about the gem system change in other regions?
I want to know what happens to non hongmoon gems

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>>172440310
Not sure about TW/JP, but KR just combined all of the gem effects into a single gem for each color, added AP to them, and removed the non-sparkling versions.

>>172440537
JP/TW got those changes as well, but we are not getting them on 4/12.

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>>172393028

>para-psychology

I never told anyone I had precognition. Actually I'd just take IT or more recently Data Analytics considering last week's ornament shitflinging spree

why does bnsg have so many bad players

>>172441675
Name them.

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>>172441675
Most of them are just NEETs with shit internet or playing on toasters... or both

>>172441737
him

>>172440639
I know that because I scrolled jonathan's tweets like crazy looking for info
Do you know anything about >>172440537 on TW/JP?
When I checked they didn't have the fragment things under salvaging

>>172440537
So for example all my tradable green hexa rubies will turn into a square with attack power, and my sparkling hexa hongmoon ruby will also turn into the same AP ruby?
I'm wondering if the 3k square gem chests on my alt will be useful

>>172441737
I'de need to list 90% of bnsg

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>>172441675

I'd say most of bnsg is above the average competency of this game. For example I could start a lego lobby and 100% we'd clear it as long as it isn't filled with alts. Meanwhile if I pug it I'm gambling with a 50/50 chance. Bnsg is pretty neat really.

>>172442720
get out spider reee

>>172441675
What >>172442720 said. I feel like because a lot of people here know the game more in-depth, they have higher standards of other /bnsg/ players and thus judge them harder.

Whether they should is up to you, but I firmly believe that even the shittiest /bnsg/ player is more reliable than a rando.

>>172442720
as an EU player I can say this is 100% true
but it's probably only because /bnsg/ has people that can communicate in english

never trust a spider

>>172443056
i can think of a handful from bnsg who are worse than pubs with the same gear level

listing them doesn't do any good so i won't

>>172443247
3/4

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>>172443291
Do it faggot, you wont.

>>172443247
gone

>>172443682
okay

gulgeun and kilo are the first two that come to mind

a problem a lot of you have is that edgy "im shit and everyone hates me" attitude. usually its moreso the attitude than it is their actual gameplay that makes being around them feel so annoying

its awkward when people get angry or upset mid-dungeon throwing temper tantrums or beating themselves up like they should go shoot themselves over making a mistake. just learn from the mistake, dont freak out and make the rest of the party uncomfortable

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This thread needs a hug.

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>>172444116

>>172444397
fucking this

>>172444441
it now needs less hugs

remove hugs and profile pictures with hugs

>pretend to be afk at mushin's
>no hug from azuzu

>>172444397

You faggots and your constant "HAHA X IS SHIT AND WILL ALWAYS BE SHIT FOREVER KYS SLASH PROUD" callouts are the reason so many people have developed such bad attitudes. Fuck off.

>>172419992

Setting the bar at 60-70% DPS

FM can obviously do it on 1, 2, lmb

WL could maybe get away with RB F 4, but I suspect that would only fall in the 50% range.

Sum maybe you could get away with LB RB F on bees build, but that'd probably end up in the 50% range again unless you're on Raven and such for focus procs.

BM I'm pretty sure would be the best candidate for this with just LMB RMB Tab. I'd expect that alone gets them to 70% of their DPS.

KFM if you use MSP 8 piece could probably get to 50-60% DPS using 2FX. in a 4 button world they'd be relatively set though with the addition of 4.

SIN as someone pointed out could do well if you could let them get into stealth first, but barring that your options are pretty limited. RB 1 F with Lightning Pierce unspec'd would probably be their best, which might be able to get to the 60% range post patch when their basic stance 1 applies poison. In a 4 button world rmb f 1 4 would definitely get them into the 70% range

DES likely could get into the 60% range with Earth LMB RMB F or LMB RMB E, not sure which is more damage gain for them ultimately.

SF Ice probably can't quite get into the 60% range on RMB 2 F. I suspect LMB RMB F for Earth spec would end up higher, probably in the 60-70% range we're looking for.

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>>172444441
this is the real SKD tho

>>172444116
>>172444397
Kilo really ought to just stick to pugging everything, his self destructive attitude is not going to help him get any better

He used to be much happier, what happened

How do I get pet aura or whatever that mumbo jumbo is?

>>172444860
>rmb-f (lightning crash) is 60% normal dps
no

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>>172445061

>>172444397
it also doesn't help that bnsg is a massive hugbox so whenever they do that everyone else comforts them and says things like "that's not true, you're a good player!" when it's clearly not the case and won't help them improve at all.

>>172445101
Test it out and give me a number. You're only losing 3.5 AP mod on each F in exchange for enough focus recovery to sustain rb/f between that and 1. You'll have to use a throwing dagger I guess to simulate your normal 1 giving a poison stack though until patch.

>>172444441

>afk for hours on end in mushin for the past month before ditching this game for BDO
>not one hug occurred within that period

I'm going to call bullshit that you play this game daily.

>>172444397
yeah bad shitters are a problem and those tantrums are hella annoying fuk drama
but imma okay with shitters like ryzna that just leave or dont run shit no drama runs are best runs

>>172444989
my nigga kilo has been betrayed by life

>>172445268

There's no middle ground. There's nothing but anonymous shit talking in the thread and people who don't want to deal with the repercussions of that in the lobbies. We'd have more people who do well and act happier if we'd just learn to actually point out what's wrong without hyperbole.

>>172444793
so because you got called out for being shit it now means you have the right to terrorize parties?

lashing out and breaking down around everyone will only further your problem, not make it better. calm down and just learn your class or dungeons better. do whatever you have to but stop making a fucking scene with your ugly panic attacks during dungeon runs. no one wants to see it

suck it up like and just improve like others have

>>172445596

I'm a third party to this. Take some responsibility for something in this community for once.

>>172445391
lightning crash nor heart stab get anything from poison stacks
heart stab gets +0.5 on 5 poison stacks
>only losing 3.5 AP mod
you're also losing lightning rod with 7.0 modifier, which is your main dps skill as a lightning sin

however lightning crash has a faster animation so this will need testing

WHY the fuck this game gives me FUCKING TEN
FPS
ON
7700K
FUCKING
TEN
FPS

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>172446228

Stop being such a shit fucking player

>>172445893
The poison is for your stealth 1 to restealth you.

>>172445893
>you're also losing lightning rod with 7.0 modifier, which is your main dps skill as a lightning sin
Actually, with endgame gear heart stab is your main dps skill as lightning sin

t. lightning sin

>>172446569
bait.png

>>172445596
kys

>>172445512
I get that it's painful to see a lot of the shit that's posted here, but a select few taking out their frustrations over that on innocents in lobbies really does just make it worse

Chances are the people that they're running with arent the ones who posted things telling them to go kill themselves. So they're just punishing innocents instead of those "wrong doers" in the thread-which if you really wanted to get back at people who call you shit then you do that by improving. Not by letting it break you and showing it every other day.

>>172446389
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS EVEN RELATED
MY RIG IS ENOUGH TO RUN SEVERAL INSTANCES OF THIS FUCKING GAME WITH 60 FPS
WHY THE FUCK IM GETTING 10

>>172446615
It's not bait

>>172445468
>played since public launch
>still sub 700
Why haven't you people just kicked him yet?

>>172446870
>rig good enough to run 10 instances with 60fps
>can't even run 1 with 60fps
you can lie to yourself but don't lie to everyone else

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>>172445401
I do play it daily.
I've just been more focused on grinding and less on hugs for the past 2 months.
And I logged less on NA due to the lack of daily dash.
Sometimes I logged when everyone in the clan were offline.
If you really wanted a hug you could always ask. I'm always happy to give hugs to the ones that ask for them.

>>172447232
so you say that 16gb ram, 7700k, 1080gtx and pcie ssd is NOT enough for a fucking 2004 game?

>>172447064
theres no need to when he doesnt actually play much anyway

him and luu both do the same thing. get depressed over how bad they are but then rarely log in

>>172447637
I say that you shouldn't make claims of multiple instances when you're obviously failing with one

>>172447637
I think its something in your software or OS somewhere because I've got a less powerful rig and still manage more.

That said BNS still runs like shit, you gotta do some tweaking on certain things with nvidia and in game settings to make it really run well. If you just hit max all and went into MSP and wondered why you have no fps then you're just retarded

With 4-mans out the window and 6-mans coming, which two lucky anons will get to play with the static™?

>>172446929
then you must be confusing shadow and lightning
shadow sin's main dps will be holding rmb during blue buff with dragon bracelet that increases damage and attack speed of rmb and msp amulet with 200%+ additional damage on rmb
lightning sin will be rmb-4 in stealth on using 2 time bomb, they will be using tiger bracelet which increases 4 damage (iirc) and chokma amulet that enables rmb-4 on time bomb

>>172448305
I'm not, because why would we be talking about the future patch which hasn't arrived yet instead of the current patch which we're playing on?

>>172447994
Yeah, when all 4 of them have their bracelet, maybe

>>172447870
very curious, what things I should tweak?

hey guys I'm shit and I would like everybody to how that
thanks for listening

>>172448978
hey thanks for sharing really appreciate it
what class are you? is there anything in particular that you're having trouble with?

>>172441675
>>172442508
>>172444397
or are we

BASEBALL OUTFIT FUCKING WHEN

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Man the wedding dress looks like a cheap Skyrim mod

>>172444989
Lack of ss

>>172448808
https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/topic/159061-guide-low-end-pcgame-fps-optimization-and-in-game-tips-nvidia-users/

Theres a couple things in here that are nice regardless of if you're low end / high end. You can google more tweaks for BnS to help smooth it out and stuff for AMD users as well.

You have to do all this work because NCsoft doesn't know how to do it

>>172449823
calm down pete

>>172449683
are we what

>>172445391
Lightning crash deals less deamage because it has no bonus like Dark Strike and it doesnt proc Rod, like Pierce.

RMB+Crash will never be sin's 60% damage

>>172447994
Vixen's been riding Arveene's dick nonstop for months so maybe he's gunning for a spot.

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>>172450959

>>172445391
Heart Stabs are around 1/3 of an assassin's damage. Lightning Crash that doesn't have any bonus (poison or blue buff) wouldn't amout to another 30%

>>172450959
pretty sure Vixens been riding everyones dick, isnt that what vixens are for?

>>172451246
cringe

>>172451206
You're not accounting for the fact that you'll get a lot more heartstabs in from the lightning crash rotation compared to either dark or lightning build

I doubt it can amount to 60% of sin's dps but it might be close.

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>>172400026

>>172450057
thanks mate Ill check it out

>>172450959
>>172451246
It's about time someone rides Vixen's dick.

Vixen is one of the best of us.

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This is what happens when we tell everyone to play Warlock.

>>172452716
Sell him gold at a better rate than ctrl c if you wanna help him out.

>>172452882
dw all these cucks will die out when they realise they need full raven

>>172452909
how about you help the rest of us out by posting lobbies and teaching others how to drive in foundry if gold buyers are so bad

>>172453312
>needing to drive foundry
lmao

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Now that wedding outfits are out who do you want to marry /bnsg/? Someone with a lot of gold? Someone who attractive? Someone who gives you a lot of (you)'s

>>172453417
before raven came out all parties here needed to and who taught most of them? you anon?

>>172453587
been no driving for months now

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>>172453643

>>172453643
Sure you have LMAO

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>Accidentally hit egg at the start of Meganura before getting a poison stack and kill myself.

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Even I know this shouldn't happen.

>>172454243
looks okay to me

Which mystic badge for soul fighters?

>>172451501
But in those cases, Dark Strike and Pierce+Rod out damage the extra Heart stabs

Any Dark Strike RMB+F is 13 AP
Lightning's RMB+F+4 is 18.5 AP
A no-poison RMB+F (crash) is just 7.5 AP with more than a half of it coming from heart stab

Even if you consider the speed, it barely matches an actual RMB+F from Dark, because of Crash's low base mod

>>172454243
>inb4 they had no soulburn and you did

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>>172400026

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>>172440750
>Para-psychology
>No ufology
Step it up Chou!

>>172454842
fuck me taeyo

Item cost change article is out now for anyone that cares
http://www.bladeandsoul.com/en/news/secrets-of-the-stratus-item-changes/

>>172454842
>>172455391
no me


and bring alicia

>>172454363
You need to use Lightning Fist -> Iron Shoulder 7~8 times (390%) to deal around the same damage as one Frost Storm after focus Chi (2900%)

Lightning Fist has 6 seconds cooldown, so you can use it 10 times in the same time frame as Focus Chi.

While it is manageable you have to remember the BUT: Raven SS gives +70% damage to Frost Storm, and no bonus to Iron Shoulder. For now, its all a matter of preference, but in the long run, you should go with the Frost Storm one.

>>172455435
Holy fuck, those low stage Legendary reductions are huge.

>Stage 1
SF Trans Stones 15->3
Stingers 300->0
Soulstones 0->90 (lol)
Moonstones 150->25
Raw gold 100->30

It's pretty much just >Collect 10 Flowers and you're done.

Stage 10 isn't bad either. Half costs across the board on most things. Stage 8/9 are really the only stages that didn't get nerfed hard, and they still have # of ornaments halved.

>>172455435
yes! lego upgrades reduction! now I can finally get some!

>>172454363
>>172456063


If you have BT 8 piece or are planning on getting it soon, Infuse Chi-Frost Storm Amulet. This goes even more so if you have a Crit+ Soul.

If you are planning to run MSP 8 for a long time, get the MSP flowers Iron Shoulder/Lightning Fist Amulet.

I can dredge up the more detailed math if you want, I posted it a few days back in the thread.

>>172455435
God Bless

>>172455435
so no cost reduction for accesories?

>>172456541
Why would there be? Cost reductions are to help new players and they can't get upgradeable accessories anymore.

I want to get back into the game and I have no clue what to do. My gear sucks dick and I don't have enough gold and Soulstones to upgrade them.

There used to be a website in the OP that tells you what items you should go for next but I can't find it.

Also, I missed the event for Solar/Lunar Eclipse, is there any way for me to get them now?

are the new materials going to have bulk unsealing or are we going to have to sit there clicking hundreds of orbs one after the other and watching the bar tick down for each

>>172456972
cost reductions soon along with the ivorymoon branch, you can probably catch up just by joining dc lobbies for 2-3 days after the 12th
the site was bnscoffee but it's out of date and broken

>>172457028
They have bulk instant unsealing.

>>172456261
I wonder if it will still require forging orbs.

>>172455261
Ryzna finally embracing the ayylmao
gratz

>>172455435
>you only need SPTS from stage 8 or above
lel

>>172457243
Stage 7-10 will still require Forging Orbs.
Babbletr0n covered that on twitter a few days back.

>>172457073
I guess I'll just join a clan and ask for assistance. I'm using the Moonwater Arena soulshield back when I used to play and it's fucking trash.

>>172455435
>that amount of ornaments
That shit is going to be so cheap

>>172444989
lack of (you)s

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>Finally these whales getting their just desserts.
Region and faction chat is nothing but bitching on all servers.

F U C K I N' K E K.

>>172457243
Literally written there.

>>172458179
are they still bitter about being retarded enough to "invest" in ornaments

>>172444397

Meanwhile EU calls each other shit and flames each other on a daily basis yet nobody falls to pieces over it there.

Well, except maybe Vika, but Vika's a special case.

>>172456639
legendaries

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Daily Challenges - Sleepy Soul Fighter Edition

NA # 30 071

Only 4m stuff in the DC is Yeti and Necro, so 4 or 6 is fine. Not much good to get out of either of those in 4m anyways.

NA 3v3 #5794

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>>172458723
Filled

>>172455435
>1-6 basically free now
>just upgraded to 6 during trove

well-played ncsoft

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>>172455435
sittin and laffin at all those sad sobs who vehemently play this game
while I just check around when costs are nerfed AGAIN and get what they were grinding their asses into oblivion for free

fuck this game
why do i even upgrade

>>172461517
Looks like business wasn't your strongest field after all.

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>>172461137
>>172461517

It's like people don't understand that you pay to be at the top end of the curve for a limited amount of time. This is standard practice for MMOs, when things are no longer the top end they get nerfed into a more accessible state. If they didn't then the gear divide between the higher players and the average players gets even bigger and bigger and locks more people out of more content.

>tfw you blew $500 on trove to go from true ivorymoon to s10

j u s t

>>172462090
>2012+5
>giving ncsoft money

>>172462090
thanks for funding nc for the rest of us SP

>>172460249
>upgrading during trove
Oldest trap of the Earth.
Will people ever learn?

is princess on suicide watch yet

Any of you guys play Aion?

>>172462389
People already know, it's another mammal that falls for it.

>>172462090
>going directly to s10
>during trove
>with a new patch to hit soon
>and cost reductions that other regions already have on the way
I mean, it wasn't even hard to predict this

>oh, the other regions have cost reductions
>oh, the other regions have new/updated mats
>we are catching up fast and they said they will do less frequently patches, so more content per patch
>it might catch up soon
>I should wait

>Couldn't log in to any character 2 days ago
>get cookedPC error message yesterday
>crash as soon as I enter cross server lobby

WEW LADS

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Asura6, maybe Masts6 - Lynoodle Edition

NA # 35 516

My Shields/Accessories suck, come help me change that and get some for yourself too. Or just come get quest gold, that's fine too.

>>172462442
Post a screenshot of your character

>>172461938
Yep, gear ladder MMO's is not about the specific rung of gear you're on, so much as where it falls in context of the rest of the content available at the time. You grind/pay to stay at the upper end of the curve, not to "invest" in a piece of gear and ride it out for 6 months.

>>172463220
I don't have it installed and I dont remember the password for it

>>172463316

In addition the number of people wanting support to revert their gear to give the materials back just screams entitlement. This change isn't meant for them, it's meant to help out the people that've fallen behind, instead they want the change to benefit them too even though they're not the ones it's designed for.

>>172463159
3/x

>>172463316
>>172463483
what if i just upgraded 2 weeks ago?

>>172464117
Unfortunately for you, things move in discrete steps, not a gradual ramp. Now get working on that Raven weapon.

>>172457328
Still the same old amount required? Because fuck forging orbs and foundry.

>>172464287
Yes, no changes to Orb requirements. Just like you still require the same # of Taikhan Skins for 4-6.

>>172464287
why bother getting a high stage weapon if you don't even want to do the content?

>>172464287
you're getting handed a s10 legendary for practically free and you're still complaining about foundry and forging orbs???

holy shit how fucking entitled can you get

>>172463159
4/x! Departing in ~10 minutes.

>>172464287

Anon, after the 12th patch doing foundry in static/pug will be a lot easier.

>>172465356
If I still need to run some dead as shit content on 12th I might as well quit.

>>172465443
>expecting to be able to run the latest content without running any of the previous content

??????????????????????????

>>172465443
you should definitely quit because anyone who complains about foundry is a literal shitter

lobbies when

>>172465912
join
>>172463159
or
>>172465046
or just kys because you don't really want lobbies

lobbies not departed when

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>>172463159
Departed with 4

how much should I actually pay for a forging orb in a bnsg lobby

>>172466373
50g

>>172466373
1c, nobody needs them anymore

>>172465443
if you ran it enough in the first place you'd have what you need already. the fact that you don't shows much "content" you actually play

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>>172466253
>tfw I thought this was Niyo

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NA DC 40406
scales and orb

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DC + CS/JSY

NA #434636
>Ghost of lobbies past

>>172466253
this >>172466858

>>172464287
Lazy fuck hint: if you're a shitter and knows it, you can farm peaches and buy forging orbs in Celes Basin.

>>172447994
I already passed the tryouts