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>Destiny 2 is coming for PC
finally I can leave this shithole soon

>>172360836
is it F2P?

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>>172360836
>Destiny
Oh wow.

>>172360885
Thankfully, no. Would keep out slavs, BRs and SEAns

>>172360664

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdBAdBfvMKY

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>Here's all these awesome warframes with cool abilities to make the game more than just a shooter!
>Wait, you've been in this map for longer than 20 waves/minutes?
>HERE'S A MILLION LEECH EXIMUS ENEMIES SO YOU CAN'T USE THOSE ABILITIES THAT MAKE THE GAME FUN

So, do the new noise weapons just blast sound alone? Because if so that kinda sucks, I'm not really interested in Octavia as a frame.

I have slow nova and fast nova, anyone has any fun builds for the fatty?

>>172361813
The pistol is actually pretty good, high crit chance, lots of slash damage, and the secondary fire empties the magazine in one second.

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r8 my hydroid

>>172361759
Just kill them with your guns 10o
and pick up some orbs while you're at it
God forbid you need to put in effort instead of pressing numbers to do cool stuff

>>172361995
hydroid/10

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>>172360836
If you didnt play Destiny 1 you dont know the horse shit you plan to step in.

Does anyone who does not have shitty anime pics to post know of any weapons that argon scope is good for or should I just sell it to someone else.

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>>172360836
And jump into a bigger one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etSLbQPzT4o

Go ahead and pay THEM to fuck you in the ass.

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well, the clan i was went full autist, anyone have one that i can just be in, without having to do more than contribute to new research?

Also, should i start to roll once more?

>>172362035
>Defending the presence of passive anti-fun auras that work through floors and walls

>>172362146
Argon Scope is a noob trap that's perpetuated by e-celebs. Grats, you fell for it.

>>172361925
I'm not saying they are bad but I was hoping to maybe put a tune to them or something. I can't really justify getting it when I have Euphona and Spira Prime sitting here. T'was more a style thing.

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>>172360998
>Would keep out slavs, BRs and SEAns
>mfw there are retards who still believe this in every shitty MMO thread trying to calm their buyer's remorse

>>172362238
I don't mind leeches because you can counteract the drain before getting shut down
Rollerskaters have no excuse though

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>>172362281
>T'was

Also they're just regular guns. No sound gimmick involves.

>>172357550
Trying baal now, and without starting the mobile defense (putting in the key thing) there is like no spawn
Was this nerfed

>>172359504
you just need intensify and to throw on a bunch of +efficiency and duration. You want 175% efficiency and as close to the same with duration, makes a big difference.

>>172361024
do the first terminal and enemies just keep throwing themselves at you regardless of the mission objectives completion, find a nice area where you can stay out of LoS so that you don't interrupt spawns and you can wipe them before they can reach you.

>>172362250
I did not, I'm just generally shit at making builds. Ferrox was on the edge of getting over 100% crit so I bought it for that but friends told me it was it was not worth it. On the brightside it only costed me 95 plat.

>>172360836
Only if its F2P else we are stuck here forever

but yes destiny 2 on PC would kill this game for good because then they would finally have a competitor so they can bullshit around anymore

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>>172362146

>>172362397
Yeah that was the turn off. I've hit the point of I don't really want more 'good guns'. I've got plenty of good guns. Interesting is the thing now.

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It's time.

Postan the FRAME GUIDE/TIER LIST:

https://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

Now fully updated for U20. But note that these are preliminary findings, subject to change as people play the frames more.

Changes since last time:
>Octavia added
The new bardframe, and she's okay. Mallet is decent DPS, but its aggro mechanics are incredibly unreliable (despite what simulacrumwarriors will tell you) and it absolutely relies on camping one spot to build up damage. The biggest problem with Mallet, however, is that Mesa/Equinox/Limbo exists, and Mallet cannot compare to the instant room-clearing ability of these frames.

Metronome is alright, team cloaking but it's annoying as shit to activate. The other Metronome buffs and Amp suffer from the same "useless buff syndrome" that plagues every other buff ability in this game.

Overall, she's overhyped and underperforming. In her current state, I guarantee you nobody will be playing her in 2 months.

>Limbo changed from Bad tier to Average tier
One of the best reworks yet. Limbo is now a top-tier damage frame with decent CC potential. Cataclysm is nuke-levels of damage, very similar to Maim, and can clear out entire rooms in seconds. Oh, and you hard CC enemies every time you cast it with Stasis. And the enemies that do survive Cataclysm are automatically kicked back into the Rift and frozen with Rift Surge.

I have yet to try out the Rift Surge augment.

>Mirage dropped 2 ranks
Tonkor and Simulor nerfs - arguably her strongest weapons - hit her hard. Tonkor sucks now. Simulor is actually still surprisingly decent on Mirage, you now have to actually pop the bubbles manually instead of holding down mouse fire. By overall it's still a significant damage decrease.

Again, everything is still preliminary. I'd like to know what everyone else thinks of the frame changes, and how they play/build Octavia and Limbo. Reminder if you have a suggestion or disagree with anything, state WHY.

>>172362568
I like your Chroma

>>172362535
>he fell for the redcrit meme

when you will people learn

>>172362680
Oy vey

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>>172362731

>because she's a dragon..

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>Hind's railroad clatter sounds are now drowned out by a generic percussive pop
>TQ already shitting up a fresh thread

Today is a bad day.

>>172362680
haahha now i know you are just bullshitting

octavia > loki

She can go invis just like loki can CC half the enemies can make teammates invisble give them mutlieshot buff all while doing insane damage with her 1

stop using 1 2 3 4 on her and use 1 3 4 instead. and then update your list please.

>>172363506
The buffs are really only hard to activate if you're not the octavia.

>>172363506
If you bother reading the guide, you'd know that I recommend against using Resonator at all.

Her invis is decent but it's a chore to activate. Not difficult, just annoying as shit. And the other Metronome buffs are worthless like every other buff in the game. God I wish you bufffags would fuck off. Buffers suck in Warframe.

Comparing Octavia's """"""""""""CC"""""""""""" to Loki's is a complete joke.

>>172363506
>octavia > loki
what have they done to you anon ? Is it paul noble ?

>>172363782
they're only really hard to activate if the octavia's song has a slow beat.

>simulor riven from sortie
>+heat +punchthrough +zoom
>I just want to sell it quick because I don't want it
>no ranks no rolls
>selling [riven] pmo
>"how much you want for it "
>dude I asked for offers I know it's not good
>"40-50?"
>I'll sell for 50
>get to his dojo
>ready to trade
>"wait... "
>trade goes through
>"yw"
Have a nice day dude I didn't make you do anything
A few thousand credits and kuva and you'll be rolling in memes and plat go fuck yourself

There should be a guide for new comer for avoiding TQ.

>>172363954
>permanently sustainable invis with none of prowl's downsides and no flashes of visibility is bad because I have to mash crouch
you're fucking kidding me right?

this syandana is terrible

>>172364027
>paul noble
who ?

>>172363954
I'd take a buff over a puff

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>>172364648
But it's [[[[Dex]]]]

>>172364443
Ivara can infinitely solo survival and intercept. What the fuck are you even comparing her to?

Invis by itself is nothing to sneeze at. Loki isn't top-tier because of Invis, he's top-tier because of RD AND invis. Look at Ash, a trash-tier Invis frame.

You have to ask yourself: what does Octavia provide besides her cloak? And the answer is...some DPS and some buffs. Wow. Not awful, but certainly not amazing. The sad fact is that in every role there are better frames.

>>172364382
There is but you're too brain dead to find it.

>I know guys, lets make the bubbles that people find annoying to pop easier to pop by adding a small level scaling drone barely outside one side of the bubble that you have to kill because someone didn't end the nillifiers life on the first pop
>Yea dude great idea, I love game design

>>172365094
>they also made it get damaged instantly so you don't have to wait for it to slowly drain
>they also let you crit the bubble too

>>172364856
She provides cc you massive faggot. Put some range on her, and she'll kite things forever.

>>172365178
How the fuck does she provide CC? The completely inconsequential Mallet stagger in a fixed, unmoving area? The utterly unreliable roller ball that fucks over her 1? Seriously tell me how you're possibly using Octavia for CC

>>172365094
God forbid you have to stop kiting enemies for a second to jump in there and melee the squishy little fucker inside.
God forbid you have to switch up your playstyle for one damn second to deal with an enemy that counters it.

God, I hate neckbeards sometimes.

whats the best shotgun to craft?

>>172365174
Oh wait I'm fucking retarded and didn't read the patch notes right, it's the drone and not the bubble that can be crit.

>>172365409
How bout the part where the ball picks up the mallet and rolls around with it? And they like, follow it?

>>172365462
Tigger P

Man, I didn't expect Simaris to be such a tsundere

>>172365563
that completely fucks over her Mallet's damage

the aggro mechanic is unreliable as shit

the roller faggot itself is unreliable as shit

>>172365617
>B-baka, it's not like I wanted to help you or anything, i-it was just a glitch

Is Mogamu good info, or is he a DE shill like people in his comment section seem to think he is?

>>172365737
Its almost like you need some range, and to not use it agenst infested who cant shoot the mallet huh?

>>172366050
You're literally contradicting yourself. If Resonator is good CC, then enemies will never shoot the Mallet. The only way for Mallet to build up damage is if Resonator is bad CC.

This is the entire Titania argument all over again

>>172366050
Everyone is a shill, you fucking shill.

>>172366050
no, the roller mallet synnergy is a problem. anyone following the ball doesn't shoot at all. that's honestly the one problem with her kit, if the mallet aggro superceded the roller pacifism, or the roller made the mallet get a damage boost from somethibg else, like how many enemies follow it or something she'd be significantly better.

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>>172365448
Are you a professional retard or is this just your way of admitting you don't play any corpus missions beyond Jupiter?

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> went to larunda relay to turn in some medallions
> bunch of retards dancing to meme music in the corner
> tfw I joined in

Just fucking kill me now

>>172366559
What was the song?

>>172366020
Niggamu is literally the worst of the bunch
I don't particularly care for revxdev, but their behaviour in THAT shitshow was unacceptable

Go for potatoboy, if you must
He's the only one i can tolerate, as much of a shill he is

>>172365448
Deac-only! shitters need to leave

>>172366347
Do you know how her 1 even works.

Also since when does cc equal straight up murdering shit.
You can lock down several hard targets at once and have them run around like idiots, how is that not good cc?

>>172366763
What about Brozime?

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>>172366551
I play Valkyr, so I don't mind going invul-lifesteal Niggamode. for a second to kill it.

Will DE ever make shotgun damage falloff less severe? It's utterly nonsensical how crazy future tech shotguns have their pellets turn into wisps of soft clouds after about 5 meters.

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mspaint was being weird and thats why the censors are sloppy but i dont fucking GET trade chat

>>172363390
>>172362731
meido chroma when?

>>172367028
Try the Drakgoon. The Range it can get on it is insane.

>>172366543
Except the whole point is to have OTHER enemies shoot the mallet, while it ccs shit, effectively killing the things inside.

You will never have a set amount of duded you know.

>>172366638
Epic sax guy

>>172366928
>going invul-lifesteal Niggamode. for a second to kill it.
>nullifier stops warframe powers
hmmmm

>>172367242
Slideattack in, playa.

if that doesn't work, at least you got close enough to not take as much damage before popping the little queef.

>>172365462
sobek with acid shells

use with nova or saryn or rhino 200% damage buff

>>172366901
her 1 only builds up damage if enemies are attacking

CC =/= killing. Seriously you're the one misunderstanding here. Resonator is CC, this I agree. But it's really shitty CC. Ignore the fact it fucks over her Mallet. Resonator has shitty range (15m is bad), you can't control where the rollerball goes, and you can't have multiple up at once. Compared to an actual CC ability like RD/Bastille/Stomp, Resonator is shit.

>>172367091
Get use to it anon you'll be running into these guys more in the future.

>try to buy a kohm riven off of trade chat
>1500 plat
are there really people this deluded?

>>172366927
he focuses on numbers and mechanics enough that you can pick out the hot opinions. sometimes his standards are low enough that he can talk about shit like the opticor or javlok like it's hot shit, but he'll call garbage garbage.

Yo having a little Fidus in my ship is the cutest shit ever. The helminth charger jives with me way more than any kubrow or kavat has in the past.

>>172367190
>Resonator is good CC guys
>but enemies will still attack

do you know see how contradictory your posts are?

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>there are people unironically trying to argue that Octavia can ever have anything on "permanently disable all enemies and become untouchable" Liki

>>172367091
ignore autists anon, you'll always get one retard per day on average
Best I had was one requesting nova & nyx sets against a shit chamber, trying to convince me that it was primed chamber

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>>172366928
>I use powers to melee nullifiers
So that answers the first part of my question then. Even with benefit of a doubt and you're using hirudo, corrupted units like to bunch up just as much as Corpus units except they also have units with knockdown and units that provide damage reduction. That isn't to say it's a hopeless case but don't pretend like you won't second guess 'jumping in there and meleeing the squishy little fucker'

Nullifiers aren't always alone which is opposite of the implication the post that started this mess provided.

>>172367427
Its really like you think there really won't be other things shooting the mallet while it ccs things.
Its also really like you don't understand range mods expand the mallet, and the resonators range to stupid lengths.

>>172366927
20 minute videos having an erection over new weapons that kill lvl 50 enemies while showing off his excal prime.

Dedicated to the game so better than some.

>>172367643
it's basically the syndrome where captured people start taking a liking to their jailer
He must've whored himself for plat to buy octavia or something

>>172367490
Javlok is pretty good vs one heavy target and in conclave

>>172367601
Cause there's never other things providing covering fire right. And the mallet totally wont absorb that fire.

>>172367675
>use Hysteria
>Slide attack in
>kill Nullifier
>Use Hysteria again
>kill the rest
>This restores any health you've lost by being not invul for less than a second

You are really dedicated to being a pissbaby, dude.

>>172367697
>Its really like you think there really won't be other things shooting the mallet while it ccs things.
then it's not good CC. Do you even see this? If enemies are actively able to attack, they're not CC'd.

>>172367643
This happens with EVERY. NEW. FRAME. People get overhyped and cling to their hype despite reality falling short. Octavia's not a bad frame, Warframe is easy enough that you can bring her to missions without trouble, but relative to other frames she's okay at best.

This happened with Titania. It's happening with Octavia. And it'll happen with the next shitty frame DE spits out.

do weapon restricted missions completely remove the weapons and the mods you cant use or are they still technically equipped so Mesa still benefits from pistol mods even when she cant use her pistol?

>>172367601
a taunt is still CONTROLLING THE CROWD AAAAAAFFFFGTVHH GETTING TRIGGERED AGAIN

>>172364648
It looks good on my Excalibur Prime desu.

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>join a kuva siphon
>turns into a flood

>>172361995
ratef

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what are some good vay hek builds? I didn't like critical declaration due to the slow fire rate, and I don't want to sacrifice an elemental mod for it. Are any other crit mods that I'm missing

>>172368223
mallet's aggro is complete and utter garbage. If you're legitimately saying it's reliable taunt, I question if you have even played Octavia.

>>172368532
It's a vaykor kek you faggot

>>172367965
you do know that warframe abilities are deactivated the instant that you walk into the bubble, right ?
You may be able to cast it, but if you won't get any damage from your actual ability while inside the bubble, only normal melee damage, unless you attack the outside of the bubble

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So looking at these tables, it looks like we get a prime a little more than two years after its release, so we should expect Golden Frogbutt in early 2018?

>>172368735
that's wishful thinking anon, they'll delay her whithout a doubt

>MR11
>every good shotgun either needs MR12 or 13

fucking bullshit

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>>172365462

>Tigris P - raw Fuck You damage + status meme
>Hek - alpha + probably most traditional shotgun vibe and build
>V Hek (though I guess you don't craft it) - Crit build
>Sobek + Acid Shells - infinitely scaling mob buster
>Kohm - pure genocide too bad you're out of ammo
>Drakgoon + Fomorian Accelerant (+ Multishot Riven) - bullet hell and fun

>>172368735
Cool skin but that helmet is looking a lot like default mirage.
HIDEOUS.

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So has anyone else tried nu-Limbo? What do you think? Rift Surge augment any good?

>>172369019
The Hek is a perfect shotgun go eat more dicks faggot

>>172368735
what a shitty tennogen skin. What is that helm even? Fucking trash.

>>172368115
Its really like you forgot the part where mallet draws fire from things that are outside Resonators range, thus ccing fire.

I think I'm done though, its kinda amazing how simple concepts elude you.

>>172369205
>he uses augments

>>172369019
sobek is greak

hek is good

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>>172369369
>I think I'm done though
I'm glad we finally agree. I have no desire to argue with a retard who says Mallet as good aggro mechanics, or that Resonator has good CC.

I have no doubt time will prove me right, like it did with Titania and everything else. In 2 months, nobody will be playing Octavia. Enjoy that buyer's remorse.

>>172368690

He said slide attack in, as in you do your slide attack animation as you're moving into the bubble. You should be able to afford not being in hysteria for the brief moment it's nulled off of you.

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>>172369551
>Swarm of anime characters with discord filenames
You're a strange man.

>>172368690
That's not relevant. Hysteria provides a window for you to allow you to swooce in and kill the nully.

>>172369205
>He is lacking in the knowledge

So Warbros +1'd and is no longer full?

>>172369205
Why does it matter? You're just going to steal someone's finding and claim it's from your conclusive testing/

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>>>/wsg/1614044

>>172370067
there are two pending slots left

Finally put the filters up and hopefully this thread start to look a better with no shitty anime girls and shitter frame "advice"

So is there any weapon argon scope is worth using on or should I just try to push off on the noob trap on another sucker?

>>172370874
soma prime is really the only weapon I can think of that would benefit from argon scope

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>>172369735
>>172368690

>>172370970
And just gave a clan mate the last part he needed to finish his soma prime.

After foolishly putting a potato into the boltor I pretty much forgot about assault rifles and went shotgun forever. Is the soma prime worth going back to the pew pew?

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Was Loki Prime vaulted and I somehow didn't notice? Last time I checked each piece was like 20p and I just made an offer to a guy for 85 for the systems and he got super excited.

>>172371204
no, but supra vandal is

>>172371331
he was vaulted like a year ago
also warframe.market

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>>172371121
Well, would you look at that.

>>172371472
Oh I see

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>>172371472
I've been wondering about this site. Should I try to sell things for higher than the prices listed? How should I be properly making plat when the only things fetching triple digits are ultra rare rivens and vaulted prime frames?

>>172371357
Forgot a second I thought that was a real thing, why would you get my hopes up like that?

>>172371121
So, you just attack the outside of the bubble
just like I said
thanks for proving my point I guess, I never said anything about survibility killing the nulli, just that you couldn't use it inside of the bubble

>>172370874
>a complete and utter retard fell for the argon scope meme
>a trap anybody with an understanding of elementary grade math would've been able to avoid
>this same retard hates the list

E V E R Y
T I M E

>tfw no Oxium
How to get

>>172367601
>but enemies will still attack
that's kind of the point

I'm not really surprised you lack the required information, though.

>>172371614
The answer is simple; do you want to make plat ? If yes, always take the prices between one third and half of the listed prices, it'll give you a good middle ground
now, of course some guys will insist that you sell that nekros p set for 70p, but other will buy it without second thouhts for 120

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>>172371965
Ember. Baal. do 1 terminal then find a nice safe corner and farm enemies.

>>172371790
It wouldn't be the first time you've taken full credit of something instead of letting people know that you didn't come up with everything.

>>172371614
well, would YOU from buy literally the same item from a more expensive seller?

Sorry, kiddo, but the age of fucking people over on the price of commodity items has ended. Use the walmart method: Sell everything for the CHEAPEST price, and win based on many small sales instead of large windfalls.

I only wish Warframe.Market had ratings for things like "Often includes an extra gift with purchase" or "fucking answers PMs in a timely manner"

>>172371790
It's not a lie, you could have been cool for once in your life and said "Anon pointed toward testing this out, thanks for that."

>>172371915
Hate is a strong word, I just really really really don't like (you)

>>172372074
Is that selling or buying? Like if a guy wants to buy Loki Chassis for 500, I should take him up on that, right?

>>172371995
good CC doesn't let enemies attack

jesus christ you octaviatards are dense

There are 2 statements you can make:

1) Resonator has good CC, thus enemies will not be able to attack, thus Mallet will not build damage.
2) Resonator has shitty CC, thus enemies will attack Mallet, thus Mallet will deal damage.

It's either one or the other. Pick your fucking side. A statement like "Resonator has good CC, but enemies will still attack" is flat-out contradictory. "Good CC" and "able to attack" are mutually exclusive. It boggles my mind you retards can't even see this basic contradiction you're spouting.

>>172372117
>>172372146
Jesus fucking christ, are you still going on about the Mandachord experiments? Like I've said before, one anon saying "make a lot of beats for Metronome to proc it easier" is different from extensive, rigorous, controlled testing.

Jesus, why the fuck do you care so much about credit? I've flat-out said multiple times that I don't claim credit for the information presented in the frame guide. Writers of a chemistry textbook don't claim credit for discovering the atom. The frame guide is a compilation of popular builds; by that very definition, I don't claim credit for any of the builds.

>tfw run pretty big clan all by myself
>feel like im letting everyone down because no clan emblem

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>>172366020
>>172366763
>people make fun of niggamu
>90% of wfg can't even get into this clan

kek
e
k

>>172372686
>plays events
what the fuck for? it's not like his clan has ever placed anything.

>>172372494
>It's either one or the other.
no, it ain't

I don't particularly like any of bard's skills, but you're kind of stuck in your own autism wind-tunnel here.

>>172372228
obviously for selling
buying is easier, because you can just ask and people will come running most of the time
repeat that for a few days, couple it with the first 1/4th of the prices on WF market and you should have a reasonnable price range
If you aren't using the english trading chat, you'll probably have better results, but it depends on the country

Of course, if someone asks for something specific for a big pile of pl you should sell it unless you actually need it

>>172372494
You can make both statements.

Resonator has good cc, because it causes things to chase it.
Mallet has good cc because it causes things OUTSIDE OF RESONATORS RANGE to attack it, and not you, your cat, or the objective.

I fail to see why this is so hard to understand.

>>172372494
You don't seem to realize at all that not giving credit the moment you posted your findings made it look like you are taking full credit which also makes you look like an ass when people point out that you were given some help.
You can't even compare this to writing a chemistry textbook, they're way too far apart. It's not even about your guide, it's about the times you post your findings in the thread and you don't share the fact that you got some of it from some helpful anons in the previous thread.

>>172372494
Newton's apple is almost as well known as him. Giving credit where credit is due is the act of normal humans but of course you don't understand that. Post some anime girl and shit on your keyboard again you fucking wiener

Also not Bard CC anon but CC means crowd control, is the crowd (the enemy forces) being controlled by bard's powers (ie not attacking the players?). If so then it is crowd control (CC)

>>172373052
>Mallet has good cc because it causes things OUTSIDE OF RESONATORS RANGE to attack it, and not you, your cat, or the objective.
this is fucking stupid. Mallet's aggro mechanics are complete garbage. I question if any of you have even played Octavia.

>>172372978
retardation is bad enough, defending retardation makes you equally dumb

Why is Titania in demand for Akkad?

>>172373338
but no one is defending you, here

>>172373518
Damm son, that was a red crit

>>172373120
>>172373242
but I didn't get that info from an anon. A helpful anon said "use lots of beats it's good for Metronome." That's different from a complete write up of results, discussion, and experimental procedure regarding Mandachord mechanics and its interactions with Octavia's abilities. If somebody else tested it and did a writeup, good for them, I'm glad I was able to replicate their results.

>>172373518
rekt

>>172373338
I thought the point was to prove it was bad cc, and to not call it shit.

>>172373518
I'd add something but he'll probably whine about samefagging while denying the thruth
octavia's CC is still inferior to loki's IMO, I'll have to test this on raids later

>>172373648
Point zero, anon got your head out of your ass for a brief second to do your testing. You would have done nothing.

Point two, there is no discussion. You have generally made yourself so fucking disliked that the way to block you is now forever the part of all /wfg/ OPs and that fact taints just about any kind of good you think you're doing (which is none at all)

>>172372686
I'm not opposed to clans that have entry requirements, but...
>own every frame
>autistically play almost every day

that's a bit much.

I get that it's always shitty having dead members sucking up clan slots, but god damn.

>>172374047
what a silly accusation. I would've done my own testing regardless of what someone else said

then again, I wouldn't expect anything else but silly accusations from someone who uses ad hominems as if they were real arguments

>>172373876
Yeah no ones questioning loki bar brawls. Those are the best.

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Is this a decent build for a Cerata?
How could I improve it?

>>172373876
>I'll have to test this on raids later
simple's usually best for those, and her toolbox is good but kinda finicky

>>172374174
And yet you did not, you stated earlier that a lot of your "findings" come from other people's work so maybe if anon did not say anything you would not have been assed to test it.

But really this whole line of thought is maybes, would haves, did nots. It's not what happened and we're getting off-topic

>"does not respond to the fact that he is called out on bullshit he just said and targets something else the anon said"
>t. Tierqueer

>>172374163
"own every frame" is the only really autistic and pointless one

playing 4x a week is fucking nothing, you should be logging in daily for sorties and daily reward as well

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anyone wanna buy? can't get any buyers in trade chat

>>172374952
I'll give you 45p

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The only kind of retards who equate vague, general suggestions with rigorous testing are lazy faggots who don't do said testing on their own.

>>172374952
that riven sucks. roll it for multishot instead

>rigorous testing

>>172375385
Crit damage on a crit weapon? god forbid

>>172374904
>he fell for the sortie meme

>>172375121
>TQ claims to do rigorous testing
>Uses it to present vague, general suggestions
I'm not sure what this says about you, but I'll assume it relates to the number of dicks in your mouth.

>>172375882
That's on a larger scale than this shitty little community.

>>172375882
>Food analogy

>>172375051
is that all its worth ):

Time to settle this

http://www.strawpoll.me/12629370

If I forgot a cancer tell me and I'll add it next thread or tomorrow

>>172376430
Is pretty bad, 45 might be a bit much actually.

>>172376439
>choosing between Lucy and TQ
christ. which one's cancer and which one's AIDS?

>>172376582
TQ is the cancer

>>172376582
Probably the hardest choice of my life.

>>172376582
You can stop cancer but can't stop aids

>>172376582
I'd take Higgus back if it means getting rid of both.

>>172375423
>+100% Crit damage adds 2 to its crit multiplier
>+100% multishot doubles its damage output (or boost by 50% if it already has Barrel Diffusion)
Gee, I wonder what would be better

>>172376439
>the vast majority of /wfg/ are retards who suck at the game, and they also happen to dislike the one person calling them out on their shit
what a surprise

the only correct answer is dogposting

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>>172376439
reminder

>>172376860
Dogs are cute fuck you

>>172376582
one comes and goes like a seasonal cold, the other is terminal except it won't die.

>>172377031
>people who vote in strawpolls also 100% post on /wfg/

top kek

>>172377205
I don't think there are double the active posters lurking.

What is Valkyr Prime's armor with Steel Fiber, Armored Agility, Stand United on all 4 players, and Coaction Drift on all 4 players? Warframe Builder doesn't let you add auras and coaction drift for hypothetical team mates.

>>172375526
>he doesn't like free credits and the occasional anus statue
saving the 3rd mission for daily reset fits perfectly into my work schedule, so that's even more free credits

>>172377205
>over 60 people in the thread who don't post and are interested in voting
I don't believe this.

>>172376860
>>172377031
So I need to ask, what number do we have to hit for you to fuck off.

>>172377421
>m-muh mass opinion

how about you actually come up with well-reasoned arguments and evidence (preferably webm) of claims, instead of shouting really loudly hoping to drown out other arguments

>>172377568
https://gist.github.com/JustEndMyLife/8d7d68d5ebdffe5995a53c42edf43663

READ THE OP!

>>172377568
Why must you stick around if you find the majority to be retards?
It seems illogical to me.

>>172377784
I bet he don't reply

>>172377836
why does anyone go on 4chan?

to talk about videogames/manga/[hobby] in an environment free from nazi mods

>>172377568
Whenever people do that you try to shift goalposts, and then proclaim yourself king excellent in the immediately proceeding thread.

That's kind of why people have stopped bothering about ten months ago and instead disinterestedly call you a fucking moron.

>>172377972
Then you just want to get your opinions out there for others to see? Fair enough.

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Should I spend $7?

>>172378173
yes

>>172378173
why? mesa is shit.

>>172378173
Why not play TF2 and sell hats that way you get steam bucks you can use to buy it?

No idea if this can work but hey, anything is better than giving DE your money

>>172378014
more like people make dumbass clams without evidence, then get mad when they get called out for not providing evidence.

Like topgun, who dodged hard when asked to provide evidence he's tested the weapons in his chart

Or the RQ bansheefags from last night who said that RQ does good damage in sorties, and that you should bring RQ to sortie defenses

Or the Octaviafags who say "b-but mallet and resonator" despite the fact that anyone who's spent 2s using Octavia will know that aggro is unreliable as shit

Dumbass claims with evidence. That's the lifeblood of internet arguments.

Seriously, besides me, when the fuck was the last time you saw anybody post webm/screenshot/build proof of their argument?

>>172378430
how2make webm

>Youtube video about Octavia pops up in recommended
>"her first and second abilities have great synergy"
>turn video off

Are these people paid to spout this bullshit?

>>172378430
I knew it, when you're faced with a losing fight you stop replying to people hoping would forget, then you pop in another chain of posts being wrong about something else.

But I want my answer, I posted proof of why you're /wfg/'s biggest cancer and I want to hear your shitty defense for yourself.

>>172378660
1. get videocapturing device (I use plays.tv)
2. get webm converter (I use webmforretards)

I'm technologically illiterate and even I managed to figure it out in ~30mins

>>172378292
>95% ranged damage reduction is shit

durr...

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>>172376517
THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM

>>172378818
switch to OBS, m8

it's much better

>>172378660
You need a game recording tool like Open Broadcasting software, then get https://github.com/WebMBro/WebMConverter

>>172378801
>most people on /wfg/ suck ass at the game
>when they called out for their shit builds and opinions, they get buttflustered and lash out

exhibit A: the octaviafags in this very thread

congrats, you've """""proven""""" the age-old adage that 1) most people are stupid 2) people like other people who share their opinions

>>172378430
>people make clams with evidence that shows I'm an idiot and therefore their evidence doesn't count
>if I post my unchanged but definitely very rigorously tested opinions in the new thread claiming I won the argument, then maybe everyone will forget I got my ass blown out of the water
man, I wonder why people don't take you seriously

>if I start a NEW argument, maybe they'll forget about the argument I was losing ground in!

Speaking of OBS, does anyone know how to fix audio delay from the game while capturing footage without using a game capture device?

is there a way to easily farm potato blueprints like you can with formas?

>>172379053
>people make clams with evidence
stopped reading there. this never happens.

>>172378986
Wrong part of the post chain.

>>172377568
I posted >>172377784 argument and evidence of why you should fuck off and you did not reply at all to the mountain of shit that is past you

>>172379094
>easily farm potato blueprints
HAHAHAHAHA

>>172379071
>audio delay from the game without using game capture mode
Why aren't you using the mode literally designed specifically for capturing gameplay?

>>172378926
I'll give it a shot

>>172378986
YKnow, you have yet to prove mallet and resonator are shit, outside of you obsessively believing so.

Ad hominems don't really count at all.

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Please tell me I'm not the only person who noticed bunnywabbit Ivara added to tennogen this morning.

I neeeeed this.

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>>172379403

>>172379258
>game capture mode
I didn't say this.

>>172379376
And you have yet to prove why anyone should listen to you and not the OP that says and prove with your own posts that you're a faggot?

>>172378292
Yeah mesa is shit and oberon has more utility

>>172377784
because it's literally a bunch of retarded-ass accusations with no evidence. I can't refute them, because there's nothing to refute. It's an eternal argument of "I said he said."

like the constant accusations of samefagging. It's fucking stupid. "Anybody who posts 'is X frame good' is really just samefagging tierposting." Most retarded schlock I've ever read.

It's a bunch of accusations one retarded pulled out of his ass. A textbook case of one retard confusing correlation with causation. "Wow someone asked about a frame and then the tier list was posted, THEY MUST BE THE SAME PERSON."

Complete.

Retardation.

The filters do a good job. People should use them more. But the amount of false bullshit on their is monumental and not worth the effort of even talking about.

Also not fucking videogames

>>172378691
No but they do get the new shit for free so they just read off the note card and shill for the new fun stuff.

Is he off his meds today? Seems to be in the aggressive tard mode more than usual.

>>172379739
>retarded-ass accusations with no evidence. I can't refute them,

>>172379648
misread, my bad

drop your settings significantly (go to 30fps capture 720p if necessary), and drop the bitrate as well

or upgrade from the fucking toaster you're on, never had any desync issues on an i7 970gtx/1070gtx with 15gigs of ram

>>172379875
maybe the constant shitpostingi s finally starting to wear him down and he's edging ever closer to killing himself/jumping off a roof

>>172379403
at least it's better than that other horrible ivara tennogen.

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>>172379739
I knew you would say that

>>172378173
whats the obsession with graxx mesa? She looks best with default helm.

>>172379667
But I did, the person I was arguing with refused to read them due to sheer mental gymnastics.

So why is TQ obsessed with textbooks anyways?

>be me, CG frost
>go into fissure defense, pretty low level
>put globe on objective
>alt-tab, open google
>"Ivara rule 34"
>go back every 3 minutes to press 4

why does frost make low level defenses so easy

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You ever get the feeling most Tennogen skins are just excuses to slap a painted on bikini on the Female Frames' bottoms?

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>>172379376
here you go, you fucking retard.

"Mallet taunt is good."

Complete fucking garbage spouted by someone who has never even touched Octavia.

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Guys, I want to be the A-10 for my squad. are these Viable?

>>172380639
put mallet on resonator faggot.

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Post C A P T U R A.

>>172380751
no

>>172380639
also put some power range, and dont stand out in the open like a fucking retard.

>>172380905
Okay....are they fun to use?

>Held on to a veiled pistol riven for like 2 weeks before getting a warframe that can unveil it
>It's for a weapon so bad I had never heard if it before
Rip

>>172381029
do you like shooting glowy bullets very fast without dealing damage?

>>172381023
>>172380871
do you faggots see what's going on here. I'm the only one providing evidence. The others just keep posting their """""'arguments""""""" with literally zero proof

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>using corpus weapons

>>172380639
It seemed to affect a large amount of them, obviously it's not going to affect all of them DID YOU REALLY THINK IT WOULD BE THAT EASY?

>>172381304
The whole point was mallet and resonator together are good. Not mallet alone.

Now stop being a faggot and post a webm with that.

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>>172380878

>>172381304
To be fair, you aren't really showing us every possibility.

Are Sortie Corpus Rescues not suppose to have a shortcut/side entry?

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>>172380878

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>>172380476
vanilla nyx has the best naked woman model

>>172381503
They do have side entrances. I believe there are three of them

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what is /wfg's average cipher time?

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>>172381447
No. I'm sick of being the only one providing evidence. How about YOU post a webm of it being good.

Just a friendly reminder to simulacrumwarriors: the simulacrum is the most optimal testing condition. It's wide open with dense enemy spawns. Real missions have lots of LOS obstruction along with more spread-out enemies. Mallet taunt doesn't work even in the simulacrum, it's sure as fuck not going to work in a real mission.

>>172379403
Well...it's something.

/WFG I'm at an impasse, my current clan is made up of my close friends and family, all of which have stopped playing, so all of the research has been by me and they will all occasionally join for an event and to have a good time with me. This other clan has offered me a spot, this clan still being a ghost clan but full of active members, all the research is done, and they all have a Teamspeak that they hang out on. Should I leave my current clan or join this new clan?

>>172381503
they do
for the sortie tileset, the easiest one is a catwalk up high on the left side

the other tileset has a air vent directly underneath with multiple entry points

>>172360706
I'm new, and tried to kill Jackal two times today. Each time I had random guy. Each time the random didn't even revive. What goes..? Should I try to solo it then?

Also why don't people answer anything in chat? Is it too much to ask or is majority of people Chinks / Russians?

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>>172380878

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LUNAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>172381815
They need to give us a way to simulate a mission then.

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>>172381815
>HOW DARE YOU TELL ME IM DOING IT WRONG POST A WEBM TO PROVE THAT IM DOING IT WRONG
just the daily tq temper tantrum

>>172379403
is that hitsu san?

>>172381920
which is the active one

>>172382142
do you mean like whats the clan name? I can tell you the active one is not the one made of my friends and family

>>172381815
Funny, cause I just used mallet and resonator and kited around 5 level 100 bombards, and actually killed them.

You died to level 100 gunners. I think your build may suck, and you just dont want to admit it.

>>172381469
>Not Dex Sybaris
Shit

>>172381691
5s meme here

>>172382034
the random probably just wanted you to carry him
also, low MR shitters are notorious for ignoring chat completely unless they are bleeding out.

>>172382262
mostly just curiosity. You should join the active one. A dead clan will just hold you back

>>172382409
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Sybaris#Skins
nice try faggio

anyway, I'm going to watch Westworld. Tired of shitters making dumb claims without evidence. I don't even care about being right; I've literally only had Octavia for 2 days, and I explicitly stated that my findings are preliminary and subject to change. I'd be happy for someone to show up with REAL, CONCRETE evidence that I'm wrong. But there's nothing to be gained from """"""""""'arguing"""""""""" with a bunch of retards pointing fingers.

>>172382615
if you cant test shit in 2 days you can leave

shitters cant keep up after all

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>>172381691
100% by hand, baby

I don't even equip ciphers

>>172382615
Cool blog, fuck off and stay fucked off

>>172382075


Gotta love that Minecraft-tier half-baked feature.

>>172379403
I never understood Tennogen that much; is this a next round hopeful?

>>172382615
If you werent such an insufferable faggot, id give you my build to make a webm of. But you just dont want to be wrong, and youre now gonna run.

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>>172382990

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>>172380878

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>>172381691

I quit missions pretty frequently because girlfriend.

>>172382763
I don't know why anyone would need to equip ciphers
The only thing holding me back from 3 seconds is how long Grineers Ciphers take to move

>>172383259
Sometimes I get hand cramps too, you should take a break.

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>>172380878

>>172383237
looks like he was trying to do a fancy trick with his weapon & he ended up cutting off his arm, blood flying everywhere

>>172383404
sick burn dude

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>>172383259
4s master race

>>172383404

Hue.

I don't even mean "I quit because I'm getting my dick sucked BRO", It's more like
>Babe time for dinner
>REEEEE CLEAN YOUR SOCKS UP
>OW I FELL, I THINK IT'S BROKEN

I'd prefer the hand, anon. I really would.

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B U T T S

>>172362680

>Reminder if you have a suggestion or disagree with anything, state WHY.

But I've seen people do this and BTFO you with facts for over six months now and you never admit you were wrong or change anything.

>>172364382

There is a filter posted in the OP but he loves evading it.

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>>172380878
It's too BRIGHT

>>172382990
Moooooooooot

>>172384093
But your just awkwardly waving.

>>172384270
Fuck you, it's supposed to look like she's shielding her eyes. Suspend your disbelief.

You know, like warframes having eyes.

>>172384419
I like to think femframes enjoy being petted.

>>172384419
But warframes would have no reason for it to hurt their eyes

>>172384716
>Valkyr purrs and will paralyze you if you don't stop petting her when she feels like it. And if she paralyzes you she empties your testicles of your man gravy.

God, we will never experience this pleasure.

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left or right?

I always get stupid rolls like this

>>172384992
NO, BONER, NO

>>172385065
if you can handle the reduced speed, right since it's a massive status increase and also increases crit chance due to multishot.

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>>172384992
>mfw

>>172379403
>Frogbutt becomes Bunnybutt

I likes.

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>>172385065
the rolls giveth, the rolls taketh away

should I burn a potato on sobek or save it for tigris prime?

>>172385787
yes

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>There are footfags on /wfg/ RIGHT NOW

>>172385787

Sobek is a meme. Acid Shells are fun and all but if you're having trouble with a potato famine I'd save it for the Tigris P.

>>172385787
assuming youre not a high enough MR to get the Tigris P you might as well slap it on the sobek, by the time you can get the Tigris you'll probably have enough stuff to trade for plat for another potato

so whats the explanation for dying with 75% of your energy bar with Quick Thinking on?

Is De bad at math?

>>172385895
I like Zephyr's feet

>>172385948
if something hits you hard enough it can negate QT entirely, namely napalms and bombards and occasionally techs

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>Decaying Sentinels codex shows what they drop
>Even though DE removed them being able to drop anything

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>>172386104

There's something wrong with you, anon

>>172386107
is there any explanation to this? or DE's lazy coding taking a shortcut and killing the player instead of running through a simple equation?

>>172385895
I am a major footfag but warframe feet do nothing for me.

>>172386740
Yes, this is good. This is a good image.

I found something out while testing Octavia due to the retard just standing there after casting mallet.

For some reason its not an isnta taunt, and if enemies see you, they will ignore mallet and shoot you instead, despite what it says on the skill.

If you get behind cover, or go invis or something, they will shoot the mallet

This does some significant damage capable of killing 10 level 110 bombards after 3 or so casts. Thing is you need good fucking positioning otherwise they will shove rockets up your ass.

SO some skill is required and its not a shitter frame.

>>172387246
stop yelling at me

>>172387246
>set all three music groups to zero
>16 notes per bar in straight line
>black energy color
>have all abilities on constantly
>invisible all the time
basically how to Bard

>>172387825
sounds about right, you really do need all your shit running at once to do well.

I kinda like spamming safety dance though.

>>172387241
I just really like the uniqueness of them.

>>172387825
What would that even sound like?

>>172388524
https://youtu.be/GNZBSZD16cY?t=5m54s
i actually have a marry had a little lamb "remix" that sounds like this

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fuck everything about this shitty game